It's one of the biggest weeks in MMA history. Last weekend, Fedor Emelianenko lost his first MMA fight in nearly a decade, causing shockwaves throughout the industry. Meanwhile, this Saturday, Brock Lesnar and Shane Carwin are fighting to unify the UFC Heavyweight Championship at UFC 116.
Obviously, we spend most of this week's show discussing these two events.
[music] Hello and welcome to Hammer. I am your host Dave. Join us always by my good friends. Greg, how's it going guys? And of course, Steve. Hey. So you're listening to us live on 93.3 CFA Mu. You can also find us on iTunes and on the internet at www.thehammer.com. We're also on Facebook. And as the Hammer armamentally grows stronger, we are now on KojoCo TV on channel 288. So you can watch us on TV as well as we do this broadcast. You can use your TV to listen to us. I think it'll just be like a bunch of designs going around like your computer screen or blank black screen or something. You don't want to see the three of us just sitting around here. It actually can kind of fun. I mean like, you know, for one thing for the ladies. I'm kind of bored of this. Just saying. I'm not saying anything. Just saying. Anyways, so we go forward to the news. We've got an interesting week. The year of upsets continues with Strike Force. Two major upsets on this card going forward. We have, we start with Lightweight's Bobby Stack versus Derek Bernstein. Yeah, this is the Fedor versus their June card from last Saturday from last Saturday. So Stack picks up the victory by a split decision. Yancy Medeiros defeats Gareth Joseph by TKO in round two. Brett Bergman defeats Wagner Roca by unanimous decision. Ron Kessler was defeated by Chris Cope by a head kick in punches in round two at the format in three, two seconds. Mark, then we go forward to the main card and this is where all the magic happened. This is one of the best main cards. This is the best main card I've ever seen Strike Force do. For Strike Force, it was better than the last two or three UOCs in my opinion. Yeah, I think so too. You know, a lot of gunfights in this card. So we started with Josh Thompson versus Pat Healy. Now, Pat Healy's a ringwise vet. He took this fight and a little bit short notice, but he stepped up huge in this one. Round one went to Thompson. Round two went to Healy. Round three was going to Healy, but Thompson pulled off an amazing sweep from the bottom. Got on Healy's back at four minutes and 27 seconds. He managed to lock up the rear naked choke for a submission. Healy tapped after quite a long time in this toke. Thompson picks up another win. This was a fight in the night. Despite everything. This was the best fights I've seen in a while. I slightly disagree. I thought that Thompson was slightly winning that third round, but it couldn't find either way. I thought he was still looking good in that third round. Better for the story that he came back, though. And he finished and yeah, it was great. I had Healy winning slightly because I think in Thompson was starting to look a little bit slower on his feet. And he was, you know, he was starting to out scrap him a little bit. Well, it's definitely a case of, you know, like, don't let go of the judges and he didn't. Yeah, yeah. It was definitely too close to call and that would have definitely been a split had it gone to the judges. And Thompson looked great. Thompson looked great in his fight with with Melendez late last year. Well, that was quite a year candidate. And he looked great in this picking up this win. I mean, I think they're gonna have to put him back with Melendez soon. I'd love to see it. I never get tired of watching those two go at it, really. Well, I mean, you know, there's such a thing as Marcus Actuation, but the guy keeps winning. He deserves to be in the title. Yeah, sure. And they're one in one in their series. So give me a title shot. So then we go forward to the women's middleweight championship or with Christine cyber exantos versus Jan Finney. This was another one that was, you know, kind of interesting. First of all, this one went on before Conley and Scott Smith, which was a little bit unusual because Christine Santos is a world champion. However, I guess Conley is Conley is Conley in his hometown. Yeah. Now, Jan Finney moved up a weight class to take this fight. And some commentaries beforehand were wondering if they should be even sanctioned it. Not only because the weight class thing, but because she's never really beat any one of any real notes. She was outclassed as a fighter as well. Interesting. No, more than we're on all those. He's one of the commentators for Strike Force previously on his own show said Jan Finney's record and abilities didn't justify a title fight. Now, I said that last week. So, I mean, thank you more over and although for listening to our show and saying that's awesome. But aside from that, you're a commentator. You can't go out and say that your contender isn't worthy to compete. If Rogan had said that about a UFC contender, Dana White would inflate him. You cannot do this. You cannot say that. But, you know, he personally, he came out and pretty much said that Finney was not worthy to be a contender. She wasn't, but yeah, you don't need to. In the first round, Christine Cyborg came out, dominated her. This one was getting close to a 10/7. There was multiple knocks down. Finney was bloodied. She curled up on her knees and covered her head to avoid punches forcing Christine cyborg Santos to hit her in the back ahead a couple times. I can't believe the amount of hideous punishment that she took in the first round. The referee Kate Winslow stopped it and docked a point from Cyborg, but the fight was so one side of the cyborg still won the round. Then we go forward to the second round. Finney came out with a flurry which cyborg absorbed and shot back. Finney crumpled into the corner. Cyborg punished her. Finney had the ribs. Deadly knee. Punished her pretty badly. The ref backed her off. Jan Finney got up and cyborg metered with a brutal night. I had to do the stomach. Finney collapsed and finally Kate Winslow had enough and called the fight. There's been some controversy over how long Winslow and let this fight go. But you know what? I don't really have a problem with it. I just have no problem. Finney got her ass kicked. I was just fine with when Winslow stopped the fight. I was looking for a point where the fight would be stopped and there were times when it was getting close but it looked like Finney was making an attempt to defend herself at all times. She was covering up and trying to absorb shots. Until that knee caught her and then that was the way she could get. She never went limp. Yeah exactly. I think and as I said to you guys before you show, I'll say this on air for the fans, I think a lot of it is it's two girls fighting. You know with a female referee and I think that a lot of the fans who are you know very alpha male and testosterone ridden, they do not feel comfortable watching two women have a really really intense brawl. And cyborg is one of the most intense brawler. She looks like she's destroying people because she is. So you know they're they're gonna say well you know should they have stepped in beforehand or Caitlin Winslow let it go too long or whatever it will have you. Honestly I've seen men cake just as brutal beatings. Check Congol versus Paul Bonatello where he held them down and need them in the ribs until the knee's ribs broke. Amir said all of us is Phil Brony where I hit him with at least four mice. Everything that the kitchen sink. You know like there's been some one-sided beatings before. I do I definitely agree that I could definitely do agree with that but I mean she was doing so little even compared to those guys like it was it was certainly very one-sided and I know that you and I were definitely reacting a lot because it was so one-sided but you're right some of it definitely is the fact it was two women but yeah I'd be very hard pressed even the examples you gave very hard press to find examples of two men fighting that was that one-sided in that difficult. You know what I think if Josh Thompson had had the exact same match with Pat Healy no one would have bothered to go online and complain and say all those are too dangerous and you know why they're letting girls in the ring you know because it's two guys and there's a there's an assumption that well you know Pat Healy knew what he got himself into he's a big boy he can take care of himself but when you see pretty blonde Jane Fini getting destroyed I think there's a more visceral reaction and people are like oh I'm not comfortable with this. I agree with that. But ultimately Jane Fini is a tremendous athlete in her own right. Can take a touch. Can take a million punches. She's got a chin on her definitely. You know like these are two professional fighters having a very good professional fight. I enjoyed this fight. It was one-sided sure but that's because you're facing a world champion because they're one of the best probably the most dominant overall champion in her division of all of them. Realist? Well the divisions yeah probably I mean you got Anderson Silva and UFC Middleweight but other than that I mean she's definitely like in terms of how dominant she is in her division. Oh I know what they're making is. All those two yeah. All those GSP and Anderson Silva but that's a fast company. Yeah definitely. Yeah yeah so. But those guys even still get challenged. I mean I don't think anyone's challenged. So I do think I really do think that the fight was stopped when it needed to be stopped but I agree but Jane Fini really had no business being in there. No no she was she was too small to me like if you're dominating your division and you're probably not talented enough. That's fine but you gotta be like BJ Penn to make the call to go up a decision to go up a weight develop and take a title fight against a champion I sure noticed. Yeah sure. This madness you know Fini shouldn't have no business being in that match. So that being said congratulations Santos well done we look forward to seeing more of you in the future. Your reign of terror. Your reign of terror will continue. Afterwards Strike Force said that they have got the wall of the wheels in motion to bring back Aaron Tufal with a previously had contract disputes with this fight. So they have apparently worked out their contract disputes and Tufal will be taking on side work most likely. So they go forward to coming with his rematch against Scott Smith. Now in this last match Koon Lee was very dominant through the first two rounds and even third and then Scott Smith caught him and knocked him out. This time Koon Lee said he was training harder than ever before he was motivated by his defeat. He came out dominant throughout the first round. In the second round he was uh Rob rubbing it up against the cage and beaten Scott Smith up on the inside a lot. Scott Smith broke free. Koon Lee timed it perfectly come with a beautiful spinning back kick to the liver and Smith crumpled. Uh Koon Lee dropped to jump on him and hit him with a couple more shots but he was knocked out from the spinning back kick. Now Scott Smith has a history of being hit by blows like that and then coming back from it and he did not come back this time. This is a brutal. I'm surprised there wasn't like a Koon Lee's foot shaped hole in his chest like in his inside. It was awesome. This is an incredible knock on 1-8-46 and Koon Lee avenged his only loss in his fighting career at any sport. Yeah I mean he's he's back definitely. Well he's 38 years old so he's a little bit old to be you know back but he's only had 7 fights. He doesn't have a lot of room on him. 7 MMA fights. Couture was back. So I mean you know he definitely has the free Couture build and he doesn't have a lot of ring wear. Yeah like no Garra. So he might like he's probably going to go forward to that middleweight tournament to see who gets Jake Shields belt when Jake Shields goes. I think he'll probably win it. So to be honest I think I think Koon Lee's probably win that turns in it but he's gotten as good a chance at the same one. There's no more Jake Shields. I think Scott Smith would most likely be in it as well because I can't think of eight the way they have. So we might see Koon Lee versus Scott Smith. Yeah that might be the final. I mean you know this mayhem can do something. Yeah interesting little note. Afterwards Koon Lee in his interview said that he was very very happy to have won and he said that the biggest joy of him winning was after dieting correctly to prepare for Scott Smith. His neighbors had made him pizza and cookies chocolate chip cookies and he's going to go home and eat them all. He's like no no no no no. I can't wait to eat them. And you know what it was funny I hear you know it was very different out of a post-fight interview. He just really wanted some chocolate chip cookies and he earned them. He definitely earned them. He's not the only one. I want some too. He's for Koon Lee. That's good enough for me. He's for cookie and Koon Lee. So then we go forward to Fader Emilianenko versus Fabicio Verdume. Fader is the reputed to be the best heavyweight in the world. Last week I said it's nice to say that but you guys show me against some top 10 rated guys. Now to be fair none of us. I have been doing this fight. We all picked Fader to win but I said I'm worried you guys show me because you haven't in the last little fight. Fabicio is a top 10 rated guy. Fader came out caught him with a good punch. Fabicio got deposited on the ground. Fader jumped into his guard presumably assuming that his own grappling was so good that he could not have a good move. Get into the guard of a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu two-time Abu Dhabi combat club world. One of the best Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu guys in the world. Arguably the best in heavyweight. I'd say he's the best in heavyweight and say like overall in the world maybe Damien Mayan. Yeah like a Verdume. Verdume is the last person you want to jump into their guard. So Fader jumped into Fabicio's guard. Fabicio scrambled to avoid some ground pound. Fader ricocheted off the cage and flew that one second slip. Was just enough. Fabicio blocked in a beautiful armbar with the legs across the neck. He's called a Vaikavala which is Portuguese. We're a term indicating that he can go for two submissions at once. Fader freed his arm from the armbar. Didn't manage to free his neck. Fabicio turned it into a triangle. That was it. Fader taps one minute and nine seconds in round one. Beautiful submission victory for Fabicio Verdume. Upsetting the previously seldom defeated Fader a million ankle. Who has now been like unofficially dethroned as the greatest heavyweight of all time. Oh he's still the greatest heavyweight of all time but he's not the current. He's not the current greatest. He's maybe the greatest overall in history but you know this is definitely humiliating loss for him. I don't know if it'll happen again you know. People are paying this to be a humiliating loss. It's not a humiliating loss. Everybody lost to Fabicio Verdume like you got caught by the best Brazilian Jiu Jitsu guy in the world. In a rematch he's just as likely to win. Yeah of course yeah but he definitely did win tonight. And speaking of that actually um strike force seems to be leading towards a rematch between the two. They think that will be more marketable than Wolverine vs. Verdume and they're correct. I agree for sure that the winner can get over him. I have because at this point you can't have Fader over him. He just lost. I have two complaints with that. First of all after he won the fight and they were interviewing Fabicio he said they said you are you is Alistair over him next for you. He said I don't care about over him. The championship doesn't matter. Fader was the real champ. I want to fight Fader again maybe in Russia. Yeah it was pointless it was dumb but that's still the fight that makes more sense for business. Yeah I agree but then you know then you've got over him saying like well Fader is ducking me which is true. Yeah over him over him he's fighting over him. Now I don't think that's gonna happen. The next two contenders in the division don't want to fight for the bell. No so over him what can just continue to fight in Japan for the next eight months and he can fight later and that's what's going to wind up happening. This strike force needed another hit to their credibility. I mean I'm calling that like I've said before I'm on the record. I give them 18 months two and a half months ago. They're down to 15 and a half. This is in the lifespan of the promotion. In the lifespan of the promotion yeah I'm calling them with 15 months left. Their most marketable fighter just got upset on Showtime not even on CBS that really really hurts their chance of getting another CBS special particularly with a brawl on the last special they had. And then you've got the two guys that are the best in the heavyweight division saying we don't want to fight the champ. You know what otherwise it was a fantastic card. And even at the last heavyweight you can't say I don't want to fight the champ. I slightly disagree with this. The rating wasn't all that great for this fight. It's not even close to what Gina Chrono and Cyborg did before. This wasn't a blockbuster rating. Yeah this wasn't really a blockbuster rating but yeah a rematch could be. Yeah now the story can be out there. You have to have a rematch. How big of a story? How big of a story was the Fedor losing? He's more known today than he was last week by far in the mainstream. Everyone's been talking about this. The rematch is key. That's going to that's going to make. I'm not saying that the rematch is going to pay for the rematch. Makes some money. But I'm saying like you know give Fabrice you the belt. Like let him fight over him and then do the rematch if anything. But like aside from that if you do the rematch and Fedor loses a second time to verdume which is entirely possible because he lost the first time. What do you have? You have nothing to go to CBS with. No this is the fight you take on CBS. Yeah exactly. You have this fight to take on CBS now. CBS gives you the says come on and take our marathon with. This is the shot you've got to take and it's near to the three combination of heavy bands. That's the heavyweight champion. Your promotion is heavyweight champion saying Fedor ducked me and I think it's time for him to retire. Yeah yeah you're going to go to CBS and say I was coming off a loss and the champion says he's ducking fights but let's have him have a loss. It's irrelevant because Fedor can't fight over him. He lost anyway. So yeah you know. I'm saying. I'd even further decredits the belt. Losing marketability on Fedor is a major major blow to strike force and I mean this with them will always be a rematch win on CBS followed by a title shot restores his credibility with more interest than originally. He's going to lose more credibility if he doesn't have the rematch. Yeah well we'll see you how that goes with this pans out. So let's go forward to the news. Okay. Actually during that strike force card Frank Shamrock retired. Yeah. Which was a lot of time he fought. Oh it's been a few years. I mean but he fought cungly a couple years back but yeah he's he's a former middleweight USC champion. First white heavyweight champion. Well there was no he would you know he was the middleweight they changed the name of the title. Oh yeah okay and then yeah and then he was also the strike force champion and the WBC middleweight champ. Yeah. So the guy's decorated. The guy's a legend. He is a lot of Japan followed over the world. Yeah and he's still gonna keep his job as a commentator. He's gonna have some great teeth. Yeah. It's true. Yeah he's has braces and his announcing job and he's doing I think he's doing a good job for strike force and that's really cool. He's an actual legend. He should go into the UFC Hall of Fame if they liked him. Yeah. And what else do we have here. Oh Key Jardin was caught. Surprise surprise. He keeps losing what you're gonna do. And there was a third recorded MMA death happen this week. Michael Kirkham. A second in the sanctioned boat. Keep in mind. Yeah one of them isn't like some like dirt fight in Russia or something. Yeah. And yeah so this is a third he's a 30-year-old from for North Carolina. He was six foot nine lightweight which means he was 155 pounds. That's a freak of nature. He had to have cut to 155 pounds. Yeah we imagine that he cut to 155. And yeah so he got beat up ground and pounded during this fight and died the hospital two days later. Yeah I don't think like I question whether MMA is responsible or the fact that he probably wasn't in very good health considering how much weight he probably had to cut. If your coaches are telling you you should be 6'9" and 155 pounds. Yeah. And you're getting knocked out and you're training prior to the fight. But they say go ahead and take the fight anyways. Yeah. And they don't throw the towel in when you're getting punished. You know what I'm saying? Like there's a lot of you know issues here. I think there's bad coaching. I think it's bad refereeing. You know this is from the ISCA which is the same promotion. They do not sanction UFC. They do sanction strike force. These are not the best sanctioners of boats in the world. Yeah. And you know. I don't think this has anything to do with the safety of MMA as opposed to it's a fluke with promotion. Unfortunately it's a court of opinion that doesn't matter. That's the problem. Like there's news like news all over the country and both countries, Canada and the states is condemning MMA. And it's going to make Toronto an even bigger issue condemning this. The Huffington Post and Fox News and the first time they've ever agreed on anything. The left wing and the right wing media in the States. I've both come out against MMA because of this. This is a complete disaster. I have no understanding why this guy was fighting at 6'9" and 155 pounds. You know unfortunately you need a certain amount of thought to protect you and padding. You don't have the armor if you're that light and that tall. Which is a vulnerability that Strouve has at 610 and 255 pounds. And do you know what though even in a case like that I mean good officiating can stop something like that. You need reps to save your life. There are so many ways to prevent this. This is such a tragedy. Like the poor guy. I mean there's so many ways this could have been prevented. We should move on. I can go out to the family and we'll keep on the story because this is an important one. And speaking of extremely tall fighters, Kendall Grove, he didn't interview this past week where he buried Spike TV saying that the ultimate fighter and Spike TV only care about the drama and just don't care about the fighters and who they are. So he's been cut from the prelims special on Spike. And yeah so he won't be fighting on there. He's been replaced by... Except for Terzillie and Richard Carter Womaro. Cool. So we've got the Lesnar versus Carlin card coming up this Saturday and Dave's going to run down the card for us fairly quickly. So we're going to go through this pretty fast. Basically on the prelim card, Russell John Mattson makes his return to take on Carlos Vamola. Walter Waite, Daniel Roberts takes on Forest Petts, Gerald Harris takes on Dave Banche and Kendall Grove takes on Gorin Relietch in what would have otherwise been a prelim fight but it's now on the opening card. However they will probably make it onto TV when they come to the main card. Then we go forward to the actual Spike TV special. Seth Petruzellie makes his return to fight Ricardo Romero. Petruzellie is a competitor and an ultimate fighter best known for Inelidexie. He knocked out Kimbal Slice. He knocked out Alidexie. And that was a fight that showed stupidity by actually killing Alidexie. I don't think it was an axe. So he's poisoned for promotions but he's back in the EOC so well done Seth. Well fixing fights is poison for your promotion. Like let's not play them at all. He's done everything wrong. All he do is talk about it. Yeah. So he then we go forward to Captain Spike TV, Brennan Schwab versus Chris Tushar. Tushar is a pretty tough all-around guy with some grand training partner. Some good wrestling. Schwab is a competitor from the last season of Ultimate Fighter. He's a tough dude. Good knock out power. Tough dude. He did knock out power but he does have some vulnerabilities in his chin. Nelson did knock him out. So this one promises to be a pretty solid heavyweight brawl. I like Schwab in this one. Schwab's good but Tushar has got some proven power and he's got a tough chin. I think you know Schwab, I haven't seen him go beyond two rounds. I can't call it. I have to call it Tushar. He's a veteran guy in this. So then we go forward to the main card. George Sutteropolis, lightweight contender takes on Kurt Pellegrino. Fightable veteran. Fightable veteran. This is going to be fantastic this fight. Maybe play it in the night but Sutteropolis is extremely good. Very very well rounded. Awesome on the ground. Pellegrino, one of the best at fighting off his box and also pretty in top of the striker standing up. Tough guy. Tough great in his last fight. These guys are going to put on a clinic. They both want to be the guy that takes on Frank Giedger or BJ Penn next. A win here would put them not at the title shot but in sniffing distance. Oh yeah. One sniffing distance. They win this. They're one fight away from a title shot. I think Sutteropolis is there to be honest. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. If he wins, he could win some cross. You win this. You get the title eliminated I think. Yeah, that's exactly what I was saying after sure. Then we go forward to the rematch of Christoph Sussinski versus Stefan Bonner. Now the first time these two fought, it was a great, great fight which ended. Unfortunately, when Sussinski's head went into Bonner's head and a headbutt that opened him up and the doctor had to stop because of the cut. Now because it was a headbutt, even though it was ruled as a Sussinski win, it probably shouldn't have been. It should have been ruled as a no contest because the headbuds are illegal. Do you know Dana White's giving a chance to put on the show again? This fight was awesome the first time. Yeah, the first one was a great show. The second one will be a great show. These guys match up really, really well. Both big guys who like to brawl with good wrestling games, they stay off the mat and they punch. Both pretty charismatic guys too. Then we go forward to the Walterweights. Chris Lydell will take on Matt Brown. These guys aren't quite to the contender level yet but Lydell is pretty close. So if he does well here on the main card... These guys are fairly middle of the card for me. It almost feels like a time filler for me. It's going to be an entertaining time filler though. Oh, definitely. I don't think any of these guys have to worry about a title shot in their future. No, these guys don't have to train for five minutes. Mine was closer than Brown is in my opinion. This is going to be a fun fight to watch because yeah, these guys like to bang. Then we go forward to the middleweights. The Japanese icon Yoshihiro sexy Akiyama makes his return after you see one's in 100. Sexy B.T.A.M.! Or the B.T.A.M.! Or the B.T.A.M.! Or the B.T.A.M.! or the C.T.A.M.M.! or the C.T.A.M.M. or the C.T.A.M. or the C.T.A.M. is not quite as marketable to me as an archminder. I'm so depressed that Don Delaysil is not fighting. So there's such an icon in Japan that this would have been a huge thing for the Japanese audience. Now for my entertainment. And for entertainment. Yeah. Sexy B.T.A.M. is a brilliant jiu-jitsu Bilbo and jiu-jitsu proctor. He's sort of great on the ground and he does stand up and bang. He's not afraid to fight with you. He's well-routed. Leaving his got some tough hands and some tough chins. He has been known to be thrown. He has been known to be taken by a ride since he's gone with the ground a couple times. Yeah. And he has been known to fight very, very recently. Yeah. And he's taken his fight on short notice after three weeks lay off from his last fight. Yeah. So how do you call on this one? Sexy B.T.A.M. for sure. You know what? I think so. I mean his record speaks for itself. You know, Akiyama is very good. But I mean, leave him to one of those guys that can really catch you with the knockout. He's a really tough dude. He's not going to give up. I think it could just be a real fluke win from him. I'm actually going to pick leaving in some crazy upset. All right. Leaving is taking the fight on super short notice. However, Akiyama also has to retrain for a very different style of fighter on short notice. He didn't want to take this fight. He actually had his management. You know what? I've put up a lot of it. Not only because he didn't have too much time to train for him, but also because leaving is a guy with not as much prestige as Silva. So a loss to him hurts him far more. He's got more to lose. You know what? I, you know, nothing against Akiyama, but I just got this feeling that leave it's going to be a ruiner. Leaving is definitely, you know, he's in the red-haired brotherhood of ruiners. However, with that being said, I think Akiyama's ground game is good enough to hold out for this one. I think he points out the decision win isn't over Belcher. Yeah, I agree. You don't have fights not going to go to a decision. Lesnar Carlin. Yeah, so which we should talk about now running out of time. Yeah, championship. Brock Lesnar versus Shane Carwin. What more can we say about these two guys? They are both coming in about 285 pounds. They're both going to be cutting to 265. Lesnar is billed at 62. Carwin is billed at 63. Both of them are one way around, but okay. Lesnar is 63. Carwin's 62. And Carwin's billed at 65. But he sees 62. He's 62. He made a video game they've acknowledged that he's 65. So they're not going to get all 65. In any case... Roger the Giant really wasn't 7/7. How do you call this one? This is like one of the toughest fights I've ever had to pick. Hi. Carwin. Carwin is the man at Destiny right now. Not tough for me. They both have really, really solid wrestling games. But Brock relies on holding you down for three rounds and pointing out the victory or mauling you with TKOs. Carwin has got stand up knocking power and he's got a good enough ground game. I think you can stuff Brock's takedown. I think he's only going to stick you once and he's going to only got to catch you once. I think Carwin is the most dangerous opponent for Brock Lesnar. Because they match up so well. Yeah, wow. I'm going to go Lesnar. And it's so close. And I will not be surprised at all if Carwin knocks him out on the first round. Not really close. But I have to say I think Carwin's also coming in with a coaching advantage. Greg Jackson is going to give him exactly the tools he needs. Whereas Brock is very anti-social and he likes to just buy be by himself and train on his own kind of plane. If you don't have good sparring partners you can't take on a guy like Carwin. Randy Couture is a pretty good sparring fighter. And I just have this feeling there's this thing with Lesnar where I feel that he is as driven and as angry as anyone on earth on the planet. He's the incredible Hulk. And he is if he's motivated he's the white hole. Nothing. Nothing will stop him. But you know what? Carwin just needs so little space to cause so much damage. This is going to be a really great fight. It's such an X factor. I got to put my support behind Carwin for this one. I really do. I'm calling Carwin as well. I think he's got enough tools to hold off Lesnar's most solid wrestling game. And he also has the striking game. So I got to say that he's got and he's got the coaching advantage in my opinion. He definitely has the tools. He could be the answer to Lesnar. Yeah. I can't wait to see. So tuning in to Saturday it's going to be a great one. You guys have a great week. Yeah. See you guys.
