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So Mr. Beener keeps a track of all of the additional platforms, upon which we deliver our message to the world, and I certainly can't keep up with him and it, so I'm going to turn it over to him to be able to give them proper credit, because we want them to get the credit for helping us with this little project. Thank you, Paul. Good morning, by the way. Well, we sure didn't, good morning. Yeah, and Eurofolk did connect at the last minute, the 11th hour, whatever you want to call. Oh, we're, of course, on Eurofolkradio.com, that's our flagship station, thanks to Pastry Lai James, we're on Global Voice Radio Network, the links to Eurofolk and Global Voice are on vmatrixdocs.com. You can also get to that website by going to nationals only, it just depends, you know, your personal preference, whichever address you want to use. Later on, 106.9 WBOU FM in Chicago, and we're also on homenetwork.tv's, HN4 channel, and freedomnation.tv on their main feed, GoLiveTV and streamlife.tube. You can join us live on the air by going to vmatrixdocs.com or nationalsonly.com and using either the free conference called the FCC links or the Zoom link. You can join us, we've got room for about 1500 of you, so come on down. And we're waiting, and we're waiting, we're anxiously waiting for you. Good morning, Paul. How's everything going up there this morning? Sounds okay. Yeah, well, yeah, it was kind of sketchy getting stuff set up. I was dealing with an automotive issue this morning getting my car that needs a turbocharger towed to a repair shop, but it's there and everything is right with the world or will be. So it's all good. Oh, that'll be nice. You get that done. Is that your only car? No, I've got a couple of vehicles. I've got a pickup truck that, for all intents and purposes, is going back to a friend of mine that I gave it to, and I have a van that needs a little bit of repair. So next week, I'll be working on the meal. All right. Good deal. Let's see. It's getting ready. Well, that's a good strategy right now because it's sure unraveling. Gosh, I'm trying to catch up from everybody coming back and not being able to have enough time to cover everything I like to listen to, and I just was watching yesterday's Alex show last night when I went to bed this morning. They had a guy on there, and I can't remember his name, but he was Obama's, what do you call somebody to take shorthand and a stenographer or whatever, right? And he was not Obama. He was a Biden's guy for since 2011, and he was really dropping a whole bunch of behind the scenes stuff that you would never be privy to on Biden and what happened and some of the things. And so I was listening to that this morning. That's fascinating. He says, Biden is just an evil, evil guy, and he will take the country down in order to stay in the presidency. And you're seeing that unfold with his fight within the Democratic Party right now with the heavyweights in the Democratic Party tying to get rid of him. And he optionally says, no, we're not. So, man, I mean, it just sets up some scary, they're getting ready to steal the thing. I don't know if anyone in the audience remembers something our Wisconsin folks may. But I was about six or seven months ago, Wisconsin, although a liberal state had a conservative Supreme Court, and it was a three to two thing, five people, and they switched one of the guys out in some kind of really shady way that one of the conservatives and got this Jewess in there who's obviously a ultra liberal persona gun von ski or something real weird, like Polish name or some kind of foreign name. And they over the court had overturned the drop boxes in Wisconsin, and the new court opened it up the other day. So they're setting up to do the whole damn thing, and you know, you can't help but keep up with the politics of it, even though it doesn't apply to us except kind of indirectly. But it certainly is interesting, and it foreboats the direction of the country, for sure. And so anyway, very interesting, and these people are absolutely freak out behind the scenes. That's very interesting this morning, and all that and hopefully get caught up after this long weekend and whatnot, adding a real nice dinner last night with Wall, there's about eight or nine of us, and this place we go to in there in about a year, because we save it for birthdays, because it's such a nice place, you know, and the ambiance and the interior and everything they've got is just spectacular. Food's wonderful too, by the way, but so it's a real treat to go there, so we all went there last night, and what we do is on these birthday things, and I look, I've got one coming up in about 12 days now, everybody pays their own bills, and then they all we all split and contributing by the birthdays meal. So that was good, and just trying to get back in the groove a little bit, man. We'll have our first two-hour show here after the, we worked Friday and Saturday, but we don't have any promotion like the wand or anything today, so we'll get into some more depth discussions. Good show yesterday with Sam coming forward with his windfall return from the individuals representing Satan. For any of you found this, would you ever believe you could apply and get money back from those bastards? I'll bet you didn't, but you can, and we have had several people and we're in the process of doing more of it right now, and Mark should promote that and get Mark on, and what we offer to the audience, if you don't want to go through all that, and a study in making it getting all anxious because you might have done something wrong, or whatever, we offer to the service now, where we will do what we call, anyway, the revocation of election, and basically the reason I label it, that's because that's what John Glenn labeled it, and I know John got it from somewhere, and so what you do is you can apply for, if you've been paying taxes, if you've been a dutiful little taxpayer, once you change statuses, you can go back and apply for the last three years of the last day you filed, and with some people that's a significant amount of money, evidently Sam said his was five digits and substantial just from one year, so good lord I feel sorry for those people that were paying taxes for that amount, anyway we evidently, and several people have been very successful of this, and excuse me, some of them, one of them particularly that I know of, with a substantial amount of funds returned, and I thought to myself, good God man, you were paying that much taxes, because it's a substantial six figure amount, showed up in his checking account, so anyway we offer that, and all we ask is 15% of what you get back, that's found money to you, you never expected to get it back, you thought it was long gone, and we don't charge you for anything we give you on your freedom or anything else, so it's kind of a way to help us too, and some of it will go to the running operation of the show here, and Paul and all the things that he very unselfishly does for our little effort here, and so should you want to do that, you can contact Mark, I don't know if he's listening or not, but I'll give out Mark's email, it's straw man, of course he likes to make a joke about the straw man, because for some of you that might not have been around for a long time here, that was a big deal, it used to be, oh it's your straw man, it's your straw man in dealing with the feds, or I'm a man living on the land, or I'm a woman living on the land, okay well, what were you before, were you not a woman living on the land before you did whatever you did, or are you just making that claim, or your straw man, this way it is, you were a slave, you volunteered into it not knowing what you were doing, and now you're a free man, well you're either a slave or you're a free man, there's none of this straw man, there's none of this man living on the land, and none of that crap that people like Anobon writes and David Strait have gotten into our community and people that are looking for what we've got here, and it's unfortunate, they're looking for freedom and relief, and they get off and hook up with those two people, or others, there's others out there too, and all they do is just get fed a bunch of stuff that I'm not saying these people are doing it intentionally, I think they think they're doing right, but they just don't know what they're doing, quite frankly, in my opinion anyway, so we try and get all that if you're been a subject of that, a victim of that probably better, we try and go back and get you to wipe that slate clean, get all that garbage out of the picture, and let's give you correct foundations, let's give you correct information so that you can really accurately ascertain what you want to do and how to get empowered and free of these bastards, and we've got an unblemished track record, unblemished, 13 years, 13 years, not one single blowback that anybody's ever told me about, and believe me, when something happens and you're in the first stages of this, and you get a letter or you believe me, I'm the first person that hears about it, generally, you know, outside your family, maybe your spouse, but so I've never gotten one of those calls in 13 years, or we get some bluffs occasionally and they try and make sure you know what you're doing, and they try and fool you again, and it's like the old hoo song, we won't get fooled again, but once you learn these basics and you have operating control of them, they can't fool you again, I was working with a girl down here, I don't want to do all that study and then the other one will okay, she's an Ecuador, she's probably never going to have to confront that, she's never moving back, she's been here 28 years, okay, and I can go with that, but you people in the States, I would think that this is your freedom, and this understanding thread is what supports it, I would think you'd want to learn, you know, about it and have total command of it, so if you do, this is what I can promise you, the more command you have the basics and the information, the freer you are, the more you learn this stuff and internalize it, make it part of yourself, they'll never be able to fool you again, because all they are is magicians and tricksters, okay, so those are the promises I make to you, whatever you do that is up to you, but it's an exciting time for a lot of reasons, it's an exciting time for us, we're growing, our foundation is getting bigger, and at one of these days we're going to be a force, okay, I don't think we're there yet, but we're working towards it, and I believe we're making progress, so that's what you can ask, it's a little bit of progress on a day-to-day basis, yes, Paul did you have some manners or something, yes, yeah, I'm setting up the show today, I still hadn't reset the branding for the show, so the stream is going to be labeled Sabido Edition, and I will fix it after the global voice stream goes down, so, don't worry about it, yeah, the one we're doing right now, it's just the title of the show, it's not a big deal, but people get confused, well, that's not right, okay, well, I know, I know, I know, I get confused about a lot of things, that's why we're here for the audience, just listening, we're here for you, take time out of my day, and don't charge you for the time, and give you this valuable information that, quite frankly, folks, nobody else in the world's teaching, unless they're one of our students, we're very few people in the world know about it, I mean, what's that worth to you? So anyway, that's what we're trying to do, we come on here to try and answer questions for new people, which we may have one today, and if we can't do that, we go over and hash dig deep on some of these issues that people like later in, and sketch or interested in, and boy, both of those two guys have fertile minds, don't they? And try and go in and clarify some of that, if we can, some of it, I've never even thought that deep on some of these issues before, honestly, and I never promised to answer every question, I think I get most of them, but some of them, I don't know either, so we're all learning together, and as I've told y'all for a long time, this is not an event, it's a process. The event was when you pass, cross paths with this information and it resonated with you, and the entire rest of the time, it's just a process on understanding it better, digging deeper, putting dots connecting and all that kind of stuff. And so, yeah, and I'm guaranteeing you this happens, you're doing something in your day, and whatever, and you're kind of noodling on this stuff and all of a sudden the dot connects for you, at least this is what it used to be for me, and I'd go, damn, that's the reason it works like that, see, and I don't know if y'all have had that experience, but it's quite enlightening, so I guess we'll get started here if anybody have any, yes, there's somebody right there, and you need to have to call them up, yeah. >> Roger Samuel, because you're familiar with Georgia, I was wondering if you knew about that 8,000 pound fully armed nuclear weapon that's laying in Savannah somewhere? >> No, not really, did it drop off a bomb or something, I mean it dropped off a plane and they couldn't recover it or what? >> Yeah, I sent you the article, I guess it's around something called Ta-A-B Island. >> Ta-A-B Island. >> The Wash-on-Down. >> Ta-A-B Island. >> Yeah. >> Ta-A-B Island. >> What happened was they were doing, yeah, they were doing war games, of course, fully armed weapons in these, it was, I guess, a 47 Stratoget, and one of the communications between whether the thing was over or not over was screwed up. The fighter had different who was playing the United States or vice versa, the bombers were one side, the Russians and the jets were the Americans, but anyways, they got their signals crossed up and they were flying under different orders and the jet ran into the engine of flying fortress and they were badly damaged, I think it killed the jet and what happened is they needed to land that saying ASAP because one of their engines was dangling off the wing and they had this fully armed nuclear weapon in there, 8,000 pounds, about 500 times the force of what they dropped on Hiroshima because it was a hydrogen bomb and they made the assistant that dropped that thing in Wausau sound or somewhere out there and they said, well, it didn't detonate, that was nice and they should be able to pick that thing up relatively quickly because I guess that sound is mostly like 30 feet deep with an eighth foot tie today, twice a day, so, but they never did find it, so it's still sitting out there. They searched for it for, I think, three months, but then they inadvertently, they say, dropped a bomb, another one, this one didn't have the core in it, but when it hit the ground, the 2,000 pounds of TNT that detonates the core blew up, so they put all their attention on that and the publicity and then just never went after the one in Savannah and tried to find it, but the other one blew the huge crater in the ground, it did a lot of damage to people's property and, I mean, it just really shows you how stupid our government really is. Well, yeah, it just, okay, it shows you a lot about that, yeah Bruce, do you know about this? No, it was going to bring up something new, they had just announced it, the Sorrow from the podium of South Carolina, they announced the winner, they announced the Sorrow. The Sorrow is active all over the world now, and the governor of South Carolina just announced it yesterday, okay. I've never paid too much attention to them over the years, seen them around for a long time. No. They just came on over some years ago. Did they talk about Q2? What now? Did they talk about Q also? I don't know, I just saw a clip of it. I guess, I don't know, the guy had it and he showed me about the Sorrow, he took off now, I don't have to, but it wasn't him yesterday. Okay. From the podium. Well, what do you think, all right, what's that? The Sorrow. Go ahead, Bruce, you know more about it than I do, I'm sure. Well, I don't remember what it stands for right now, because it's been so long, I do. We heard about the Sorrow and Sorrow and Sorrow, it's a lot of now. I can snap on you. What are they supposed to do? Nissara, it's completely changing of the government and money. Do what has all this? I'll just make sure it has the money. Let Bruce give us his take, Paul. Bruce, what is it supposed to do? If so, worldwide, the thing that's been going on, I guess it's the 90s, undercover. It's just the 90s, yeah. And it's, I've learned about it back two decades ago, and it never came to fruition until now, and it's an accident, you know, and Sorrow, you know. We'll see. Okay. Yeah. All right, Paul, what are they supposed to do? You said legislation about something. Yeah, it's been around since the 90s, and it was waiting for somebody to actually sign it into law. It was bill, and it was done, and it was ready to be implemented, and it completely turns the entire monetary system. As we know it, upside down, and releases global collateral for fixing the monetary systems of the globe. There's two. Gessara and Gessara. Gessara is National Economic Stabilization and Recovery Act, and Gessara is the Global Economics Stabilization and Recovery Act, and it's supposed to be a really, really good sign, especially if a governor is talking about it, because that means they're bringing it into the public view, and they're bringing it into the mainstream. So I'm thinking it's a good thing. We'll just see how it shakes out, but it will completely turn our monetary system completely upside down and return us to an actual sovereign gold-backed currency. Okay. Well, I'm going to color me skeptical, and just set me up on a shelf until some happens so that they can come out and come out to some happens. I don't know how you, I don't particularly know how you, what is it, $135 trillion worth of sovereign debt? I don't know how you overturned that, with counterparty risks and all the other things involved that have built it to that point. You got to do loans to do the leavening, and you got to use some kind of collateral, and the problem is most of those are using just a little bit of collateral and they're piling on each other. It's the way I understand it. Anyway, okay, let's see. So we had Samuel with nuclear bombs, and we've got Bruce within the Sarah. Does anybody else have anything that we normally don't talk about? They want to bring forward. Well, does anybody have anything else? I didn't give the email address, we got distracted Mark, so welcome. Hey, good to be here. What's your, what's your read on the Sarah mark? You've been around the mark. Oh my gosh, I've been hearing that since 1999, when I first met with Dan Metter, he had a couple of families in his group that were every day that I was hearing about in the Sarah. I don't know. I just, you know, it's just so fantastical. I just never looked into it. I put it in the same category as Q myself, okay, now you can do it if you want, whatever, but I put those things in a woo-woo kind of category over there and put them off to the side. If anything ever happens, great. I'll tell you I was wrong. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Just kind of following up on your initial conversation this morning about the straw man, I looked over the other day and I was looking at the straw man and it looks like he's kind of shrinking. I don't know what's going on, but I got an email from one of our listeners at strawman@markallcaps.com that's strawman@markmarrk, A-L-L-C-A-P-S.com and it does not have to be capitalized. So strawman@markallcaps.com and I think they're kind of trying to ditch their straw man. I found out that they had some LLCs and they had been using, you know, S chapter corpse to do their taxes with and after studying with you and some of your really strong students, they dissolved their LLCs and now they're influencing the companies that they worked with directly in their own name using their own Social Security number. Yep. Yep. Soul to Prider. So I don't know if anybody recalls, but, you know, over the past few days I've been talking about this shift in your mindset where people have been hanging on to these very, very intricate ways of trying to avoid or reduce taxes lawfully. But they're having to go through all kinds of hoops to get there. Once you take Roger's information and you grasp that and internalize it and understand your status as a national as opposed to being a 14th amendment US citizen, it changes the whole game. I'm telling you, it's, I've talked with people again that are your listeners here and there, Roger. And when I started asking them like, okay, well, you want to start this, you want to do an LLC and there's not necessarily anything wrong with LLC in itself and it has its purposes. But when I started asking them, well, what's your reason for wanting to have this trust here in an LLC there and they're moving money all around, you know, and I'm like, this is old. This is, if you're a 14th amendment US citizen, you might need all that junk to reduce your taxes lawfully or to avoid them lawfully. But we don't have to do that as nationals and it's exciting because this person got it. The other thing too is I mentioned where most LLCs, the people that own them are sole proprietors and they unknowingly just followed their accountants information on saying, well, you want to follow as a escort, right, well, as an escort, you have to be the US citizen. And, Andy, go ahead, Roger. I was going to say and if you're national and non, non-resident alien in the tax code, you can't be one of the proprietors of the sub chapter S. No, you can't, no, you can't. Now, this is even more interesting and this question is coming up. When you're a sub chapter S corporation, you have to file a form 1120 tax form, not a 1040, it's called a form 1120. And from all my research, you cannot change that. So, in other words, people that are trying to get refunds, unless they had previously filed a 1040, I can't go back and help them with an 1120, can't convert, yeah, I can't convert a previously filed 1140, excuse me, I cannot change a previously filed 1120 into a 1040 and even more importantly, yeah, but even more importantly, I thought, as I'm researching this, the IRS makes a reference to revoking the election if you had filed 1120. You have a period of time of three months from the date of your taxable calendar year, like most companies, small companies, they use December 31st as the end of the tax year. And I'm on the IRS's website right now, it talks about revoking a sub chapter S election. In other words, your LLC chose elected to file an 1120. Now if you want, you can actually revoke that, but you only got three months to do it in the current, at the end of the current tax year. But they're using the word revoking. So I found that, I found that in a row. I've never heard of once, like with you, in other words, if I'm understanding you correctly, if you open your relationship with the IRS with the sub chapter S in this 1120, you can't change it. Not later. Wow. I've never heard of that. Yeah, yeah, I can't, I can't, you can't go back and amend and replace it with a 1040. Now you can amend it, you can amend the 1120 tax return that you filed, but you can't replace it with a 1040. Now with that, with that being said, and I'm sure somebody will have some comments, so just hold on a second. So with that being said, a lot of times the 11, the sub chapter S, it will pay the owner like an employee, and it's what it should be. So the sub chapter S is like a business entity. And once it, and it's great because you're writing off tons of stuff, and that's what a corporation's good for, is writing everything off that you possibly can. And then from, from the proceeds, it would pay the owner like an employee. And then that, that owner would file his, his or her own 1040. So it really depends on how that set up now. If that's the case, where your S corporation slash LLC paid you as an employee, and you filed an individual 1040, then yes, we can go back and we can amend that, and you can do a 1040 in R as a non resident alien slash as a national, I yield, Bruce, you were trying to inject something there. Yeah, no, sorry, they case all that language he just gave us. And we're back on the right path, under God, point blank, did you say, Nissara, Nissara does all that? Is that what he just said? Yes, yes. Yes, exactly. Right. Point blank. And it was crazy that they had South Carolina governor, he's the one that threw me in jail with $100, $250,000 cash bond on me, because they didn't know what to do with me. Just get, get, get me out of the way. And here he is talking about an Nissara on the podium. Nissara is also a boy. And he was the, he was the attorney general of the state of South Carolina when he did this to me. He's the governor now for, I think, two decades. There is also a book by Scott Young entitled, "Missara and the Mark of the Beast." Well, not, what Nissara is supposed to do is it's supposed to eliminate the income tax and replace it with a state national sales tax and eliminate compound interest and return us to a currency based on metal and, yeah, it's, it's been largely, it's been promoted and it's been demonized on numerous websites. And it was, it was proposed during Clinton and Bush also suppressed it. Okay. Well, see, here's my read on this. This is all pretty woo-woo. And if somebody can bring something positive forward, you know, honestly that you can verify like we can do with our stuff on, on status and whatnot, we'll entertain it. But until that time to me, honestly, it's like you follow the plan, trust the plan. Oh, okay. Well, what plan is it? Well, we can't really tell you. Just trust it. Okay. I, I, that's not, I got to see more Bruce. Sorry. Okay. Okay. You're the same. I've been in this thing. All right. Not wanted to have, but I went through the hail and that, you know, I worry and let's survive. I'm here with you. All right. So, um, it's definitely worth keeping an eye on. Well, if you want to do that and spend your time doing that, go do it. Okay. Oh, I, we, we got something here that I know is productive. I know it works. I know why it works. I know how it works. I know all that in our enemies recognizing. I don't know if you can get more solid than that. Okay. Um, Mark, did you have anything else to add? Uh, no, that's pretty much it. It's really exciting. I see people's mindset shifting or what they from the straw man. That's why I was jokingly saying that I think my straw man is shrinking, you know, he, yeah. All the things that he'd been clinging on to that involved in him, uh, are starting to fade away. So I don't know how long the straw man is going to build, but be around if he, uh, okay. Well, you might have to change. Well, you might have changed your email, uh, or his email. Are you saying he's a, are you saying he's a mere grass of his former self? It's starting to look like that. Yeah. But I was thinking if, if we don't really have any major topic coming up, if you might explain the difference between the 14th amendment, civil rights and privileges that a US citizen has compared to the rights that a national has. Okay. Well, I can do that. Certainly. We were supposed to have a new, uh, person on today, uh, that was one of the folks that, um, Ed and Thor, I have, uh, awakened. When he had some questions and his name is Leland. So let me just cast out the call. Leland, are you, uh, on the call with us today? You were supposed to be here Tuesday, so it may have come up if you're here, right? And if you're not, that's, uh, we'll wait till you can make it with the questions. And pardon me, this head. Yeah. Uh, Leland, he has, he's also a physician. He had patients until noon, so he had blocked out from noon to one to be on. So, uh, when I go out with him in the morning, he was still planning on being here. So it looks like you got about 20 minutes before he goes up. Okay. We're fighting central and eastern now. Okay. So great. Well, we'll call for him after he gets off. He's a physician also. Is he general physician or what, Ed? Uh, yeah. He's an internist. His way is trained as, um, he practices kind of a functional medicine, uh, integrative medicine. Like I do. Okay. Fantastic. Well, we're anxious to meet him and, uh, we can kick around some other stuff until he gets with us. Um, uh, you were saying, Mark, if we could cover the difference between civil rights and God given rights, basically, right? Um, civil rights, well, the civil rights are, uh, don't you hear this all the time, even from pretty educated folks as they'll say, don't touch my civil rights. Uh, I mean, I hear it quite often, uh, and it amazes me quite frankly, and here's these people that think they have constitutional protections and yet they're talking about taking away their civil rights under the great heading of rights. There are two sub categories and we've talked about this before. One is of course the civil rights. These are your rights among the other people in the society. And see, that's how they can govern, govern them with you as a serf and given you these. Now they can write all these regulations and stuff surrounding them. But you don't do that with God given rights. Okay. Now the big thing that we've kicked around before and tried to get an initiative started and taken too much root, but, uh, the other set of rights that you get under that great heading of rights are political rights. And those are the rights to run for office and vote and all the other things that have to do with the political administration of the society. And of course we don't get those as a 14th amendment citizen. They didn't give those to them. They weren't given those to the former black slaves. Okay. And, uh, although what they did was they give you a franchise, you know, when you've heard them say voting is a franchise and they have to give you the political rights to participate. And I think that's why they would tell you that a citizen of the United States is the only person that can vote. Okay. Even though on the other hand, underlying it sneakily, they've made the national the same status as a citizen of the United States and they hide that under it when they need to and then, uh, some, and they, they mess with it a lot, you know, um, so, uh, that's one side with civil rights. Those are the ones again, uh, that you have with the other people in the society and, uh, the other side is political rights, which we now have, uh, and it kind of throws a hitch in their giddy up because they don't know what to do with it. Most of them, of course, don't know anything about it. But, uh, and we should be able to participate. We should be able to participate more than, uh, than they should, really, because we don't have to be given the opportunity and the permission to do it. You'll notice if, uh, you go and devote and the only thing they can register you as is a citizen of the United States, right? I mean, that's what we found out from the people that have pushed the envelope here. Um, the, the one case that we've had that was pretty exceptional to me was, uh, Dave and Kay down there in Alabama who did go into the county supervisor of elections and started pressing there and they got all the way to the secretary of state's office, which that's the office in the state that oversees elections and to the department inside the secretary of state and to the top attorney in that department. And after an exchange of information, uh, finally he registered the K and Dave as citizens of the United States to vote in Alabama. Now, that's very interesting. What we didn't get is what capacity did he register them as? Uh, what slot, what do you, the only citizens of the United States can vote? How did they register us to vote in what capacity, what are, do we have any extra? Things we can do besides the other people and, and all that and we just don't have that information. Okay. So that's one side, Mark, uh, as best as I know it there, you know, of course you've always heard civil, small, our rights are nothing but permissions and they can give them to you and take them away. And that's what this franchise, they gave you the franchise to vote. Uh, now on the other side, after you file this paperwork, uh, for the first time in your life, you, you throw off all those shackles and you come back and, uh, you've got God given rights the way the original folks in the country did for the first 90 years. And except their capital R rights go back to the declaration of independence is capital R rights, capital R duties, capital C citizens, capital G God, uh, we had a fellow that had our fourth of July, I think last Thursday, who read the Declaration of Independence and I was listening to him and I know those words are capitalized, you know, and so most people don't notice that difference. It's important. Uh, and so we get those rights from God and of course back to our formula, R plus D equals R, you owe your duties back to the big guy. And you've got now total constitutional protections and none of them are abbreviated. The example I would give you, uh, recent with Maryland and Kentucky, Frankfurt, Kentucky, I believe, who, uh, did all of her notices and noticed the chief of police and got correspondence from them and said, uh, since you've ex-patriated, we want you to come in and turn in your concealed carry card. And also we want you to contact the FBI and she tried to contact the FBI. She called them. They wouldn't return the call. So she wrote them and they wrote her back said, we don't have anything to do with this. And now the police department's got a little egg on the face. They go back in and investigate and find out that she didn't ex-patriate. They wanted her to, uh, uh, send in an additional affidavit and they would let her keep her concealed carry card and she did that by email, which she didn't have to do, I don't think. And, uh, and she should have written them a back and said, Hey, I don't need your stinking carry permit because she doesn't. You've got true access to the second amendment, open carry. You don't have to go get, uh, a firearm through a licensed dealer, uh, although you can. And all those other things, there's no restrictions on you. And of course, Mark, as I've, uh, queried you before with, uh, Brown versus Board of Education overturning Plessy V Ferguson, Allen, uh, and making them the same, not separate, but equal, but equal in the classroom, equal in the society and, uh, that you could do the dialect, because that's equal in the white country club, equal in the equal in the society. Under what tortured legal reasoning and somebody with God given rights be the same as someone with civil rights from the government. You see, I don't, that, that's fraud right there in Brown versus Board of Education. I don't see how that case is stood the test of time. Quite honestly. I might have to go revisit that. That's an interesting question. And that was very formative. Go ahead. I'll, I'll add when you're finished. Yeah. I know though that we can use those laws against them. Of course. Those as controlling the, the government agents and US citizens that applies to them, but not necessarily to us. And that's a little bit of a sticking point with people that are, that are nationals when I say, you know, we still have, we can still use those laws against them. But they just don't necessarily apply to us. Go ahead. Well, how has it gone? As I was in 1954, how has it gone this many years and nobody has, has asked that question. Maybe somebody has. I've never heard it. Ask. I've never heard anybody analyze this to the extent they could ask the question and understood what was going on. But there's no way under any, any type of law scrutiny, I can figure out how somebody that is got God given rights and per constitutional protections is the same as someone who's the 14th amendment citizen. See, that was the difference they had to overcome to finish up their agenda when they had to overcome Plessy versus Ferguson separate, but equal, you know, and as, as we've talked about before, and I don't know that I've ever heard does anybody say this either because everyone, even some of the early courts say that the 14th amendment was passed for Negro slaves, okay? And certainly they were the low hanging fruit and the opportunity and that it was black and white. But really the difference is somebody, the whitey has got God given rights and he was a state citizen and Jim Crow was a federal citizen with these civil rights, but they automatically say it was just this color thing and it just wasn't. It may have manifested itself that way, okay? But that didn't what it was. Well, what's really interesting is is all of a sudden, I should say all of a sudden, the Creek came in, see our EEP, the Creek of getting everybody to believe that they're a US citizen and becoming that 14th amendment citizen automatically, when did that happen? How did they shift gears in the passing of the 14th amendment and Plessy versus Ferguson? And we had this clear distinction between freed slaves who, their only avenue to gain citizenship was to be under the 14th amendment as a US citizen, then you had all these other citizens that prior to the Civil War, they were basically citizens of the state they were born in. And then this is all evolved into where now everybody being born is considered a US citizen under the 14th amendment. Okay, well, that was the bankruptcy, so they did that. Let me do something here for a second. Can I answer the bankruptcy allowed them to do that? But know that even then it was not prominent and Jim Crow was still in effect. And the reason I say that is because they had black and white military divisions. It wasn't just totally totally integrated. They had their own black units and white units. So that was still in operation all the way up through World War II and past and until Brown versus Board of Education, I guess the way I understand it, Mark. So they, yes, just a second, they did it very gradually and and that difference was still recognized even up to Plessy versus Ferguson. Okay, but at some point they've done that very gradual thing. They stuck everybody in as a surety there after 33, but they didn't tell them noticeably. Now, who had something to say there? This is Alan with WBOU. I heard a different question there actually is how did they actually sell it? And I actually have a more modern example of that. We have people that are going out and they are going to different police stations with a camera invoking to see whether or not they followed law or not and they call this auditing. Well, the biggest problem of it is they are not there in order to check their bank statements. They're not there in order to balance their checkbooks. They are not doing an audit. What they are doing is something that every truck driver knows the phrase to and that's called a compliance check. However, what has happened is that somebody with a non-legal gave this name audit to this and it passed it on insisting whether they were helped in order to create this as a regular terminology. In order to skew your legal defense, when you go in and try to fill out, I was doing an audit. You weren't checking their books where you end your guilty of whatever we tell you are. So they have replaced a nonsensical term in order to do this. Now when they created the citizen, it was such a wonderful thing in order to be a citizen. It was the most important status that you could possibly have. And again, it wasn't correct, it wasn't this, it was sold into common language. So that when we actually refer to it, it actually refers partially to the legal standing, making us a citizen, making us this, making us that, pre-determining it by our own natural living language. So I thought I might insert that there, but I heard two questions, not one. Thank you. Okay, well thank you, Helen. And remember part of this, if you go back, okay, if you go back to the slaughterhouse cases, and there's a section in there that's talking about this, and one of the things they refer to is Dred Scott. Now I'm assuming most of you have been exposed to the Dred Scott decision in some point in your life at some degree to some degree, okay? And Dred Scott was, I forget which state he was in, but I believe he got up to Illinois, and he declared himself to be free. And the case went to the Supreme Court, and it was a much discussed, highly controversial, still is, okay? All these years later, and they're talking about the incapacity of Dred Scott. And they said that the only way that Dred Scott could become a citizen, remember there was only one back then. This is before the Civil War, there was only one type of citizenship. So when they're talking about Dred Scott becoming a citizen, they're talking about becoming a state citizen, okay? And that there was nothing, okay, hold on a minute, there's nothing short of an amendment to the Constitution that could allow these people to become, you know, involved in the political process from the standpoint of having a status. Those people that lived in DC in the territories, and all the territories, up to the passage of the 14th Amendment, were stateless. They had no duties and rights, because there was nobody over them. It was a big void, and this is the void that these guys drove this scheme into. Yes, Iron Man, what you got? For the National Civil Cookie Day and National Fashion Day, with any due respect to my brother who brought up the word audit. When you audit the books, you audit the books. You may audit other things. If you look at the etymology of the word audit from the Latin audio or dairy, I think it's the third conjugation verb, you realize that you audit many things. You can audit a course as I'm auditing this course, and I think he might be barking up the wrong tree there, although I do think he's on the right track with respect to looking at each word that the snaking liberals throw at us, and we swallow such as the word "day" in lieu of homosexual. How many people out there listening say the word "gay" like a fool when the real word is homosexual, but it doesn't sound too nice. Maybe we can get gay marriage, because gay marriage doesn't sound too bad, doesn't you, idiot? No, they'd be real happy. How about the sodomites? Sodomites. I love sodomites. I think I love sodomites. No, no, no, no, no, I wouldn't even insinuate them that. No, watch it with audit, it's proper for them, these truck drivers, or whoever, to go into a police station and audit what's going on in there, because it's always fraud and corruption in a police station. We have no police stations anymore. All we have is dens of iniquity. They've brought women in uniform, it's in a police department. How's that going to work out? Let's have women cops, you fools. What do women in uniform do? They get out of uniform for men. Look at South Carolina and the cat fights that were originated by the cops, for the women cops, to completely disrobe and have cat fights for the men cops. You can't introduce females into male situations such as law enforcement or army or anything else. Get the women out of their uniforms. I like them out of their uniforms, don't you? Well, I think we've heard enough of your comments about women, can we just move on? Oh, it's important, you've got to repeat the truth, because you idiots think that your women can be in uniform. You know, women in uniform, see, you know, and Brent is talking about this and I think. All the women blow the whistle off topic, he's off topic, shut him up, because he's talking about the difference between males and females, which are opposites. Okay, I think this is a really good time to get us off of. We're talking about all of you. Might be the only one that can't go astray. Okay, I hear the whistle. Yep, yep, you hear the whistle and that's why you would be in. That's it for 106.9WBOU FM in Chicago. If you want to follow us into the second hour, I don't know. Go to thematrixtox.com or nationalsonly.com. You can either click on the Eurofolk radio, Global Voice radio, or the FCC, or Zoom links, and actually join us on this show. Thanks. Yes, and we'd love to see you. You know, why do men go to war? Take go to war to protect the women and children back home. You start getting females up in the front lines and in the battle thing. It's just nothing but natural instinct that the men want to protect them and some men want to harass them and whatever else. Okay, I just don't think it's a good idea, but that's not what we were talking about. We were talking about this difference between common rights, which you get me discombubed right. Civil rights and God-given rights and one of them, you know, this is the important part to me and some of you may not realize this, but this path that you're embarking on, changing your status and getting back under our natural status the way we're supposed to be and we're meant to be and the country was founded around. There's only been two times in the entire history of the planet, tens of thousands of years when men have had those rights. The ones that are God-given, the first 200 years of Rome before it was changed from the just civilians to the just gents them and the first approximately 200 years of our country until they overthrew this thing. So, back to this Brown vs. Board of Education and this preexisting condition of the fact that even in the slaughterhouse cases, which was written three years after the passage of the 14th Amendment, it's as if we were sitting here talking to you remember when they stole that election from Trump and all the things that went through and the Texas Attorney General's applied to the Supreme Court and they were told the states had no standing. So, in other words, states don't have any other place to go above them or their internal state Attorney General. They can't go to the Supreme Court because they don't have standing. Boy, that was just some several people trying to dodge the heat right there, okay, because that's just blatantly and I agree with Barnes on the standing thing. It's just total BS, it's what it was thought up by some judges in the 20s to find a way to dodge hot potatoes and hot rocks, okay, and it's just like the old story, you know, the guy, his wife is cutting the pot roast and he sees her and she gets the pot roast on the cutting thing and cuts off the ends and then puts the pot roast in the pot and they cook it and he says, "Well, why do you do that?" And she goes, "Well, I don't know, it's just the way we've always done it." So, when he's the next time he's there with Mom and asking her and she says, "Well, it's just always the way we've done it," and he has a chance to get around the great-grandmother and says, "Why did you do that?" So, "Oh, we just didn't have a pot that was big enough to put it in." That little tradition has gone through their whole family three generations, okay, and that's the way some of this stuff is, all right? But I've always thought that it was particularly important and relevant that there's only two times in the history of the planet that men have had these rights and access to them. So, know what you're dealing with here. Yes, Paul. Oh, we've had a couple of hands up. I don't know if either one of them are the guests we're expecting, but we are at the top of the second hour and let's get these guys taken care of so we can open up the show to our guests. It's coming in. Okay, well, we've got Conner and Keaton. Conner and Keaton, those are both new. Conner first. I think those are both new. Hey, Conner. Hey, gentlemen. Hello. I appreciate the, Paul had been studying sovereignty. I've represented myself in court back in 2016 and been battling in my own way. But I just want to recognize the older generation that has placed the path forward with all of this. And I wasn't going to say anything. Conner, before we leap into it, this is the first time we've spoken, isn't it? Yes. Okay. Can I ask you a couple of questions, please? Where are you in the country and how did you find us? I am in Tennessee on Homestead. My wife and I built were right in between Knoxville and Nashville out in the country. Have I talked to your wife before? I don't think so. I found out about you guys through my friend Keaton, who also had his hand raised. My wife before it had, her name is Lindsey Hillagast. She had written checks to herself using the social as the account number and then the routing number for the bank and was tapping in for trust. So potentially you guys crossed paths at some point. We've both been on this path. Well, I don't believe it was her, but I did have a female with a couple of children in that area of the country, their niece from Tennessee that called in. And I don't know that we've had her a bunch of times, if that's why I was couldn't, because her husband wasn't with her, I was wondering if that was you. And you found us through your friend Keaton, who's also on with us, Hi Keaton. So if you're out doing your Hello Keaton, we'll get to you in just a second, let me talk to Connor here. So you found us, you're looking into this and you've been representing yourself and you've had some idea of sovereignty for 10 years or so. And you actually went into court, you say? Yes. Yeah, I went out to Standing Rock, which was the oil pipeline protest out in North Dakota. And I mainly went out because I knew the Rothschilds run Citibank and they were coordinating the funding for it. And I got arrested out there for physical obstruction of a governmental function and a whole group of us. There was about 40 of us that challenged the jurisdiction of the court. I think I was the only one to actually go in and volley back and forth with the magistrate, but the rest of the guys just wrote letters and basically, squarely denied and challenged the jurisdiction of the court. And it was good, it was a hotbed of some good mentors. So were you challenging the court on personum or subject matter jurisdiction? Well, it's been a little while, but subject matter jurisdiction and really just, you know, because I learned that the definition of a person was LLCs, co-partnership, corporation, et cetera, then realizing that those codes and statutes that pertain to birth certificate entity don't apply to us flesh and blood beings. And that was sort of good. Yes. We're going to have to wipe your slate a little bit here. So let me ask you, okay, good, what is, what is a person? You named off a couple of things there. Well, are you asking for the general definition and legal codes? No, I'm looking for the, I'm looking for the concept, the original legal concept behind the word person. I don't know that. Okay. Well, you're fixing to learn, okay? A person is an entity to whom the law ascribes rights and duties. So yes, see, this is my acid test for patriots. I've never had anybody in the US answer correctly, by the way, in 37 years. The only person that ever answered it correctly, and I mean immediately correctly, was my attorney in Argentina. So they're teaching the right things down there. See, they don't teach these things in law schools anymore, all right, because they don't want you to do it. Can you say it again? I want to write down that definition. Yes. An entity to whom the law ascribes rights and duties. Now the whole world runs on this simple formula, R plus D equals R. It didn't seem very foreboding or as you looks like innocent. What stands for is rights plus duties equal remedies, and it pertains to what we're talking about. So if you're a corporation, you get your rights with corporate personhood to the 14th amendment. And you owe your duties correlative to the federal government like, oh, you better follow all the regulations and you better pay your taxes. But once you file this affidavit, your legal personality changes. Your legal personality is from where you get your rights and to whom to owe your duties. So when you file this affidavit, for example, now you're, as we're discussing earlier here just a minute ago, now you get your capital R rights from God and you owe your capital D duties to God, but you're still the person. Now with us, with humans, always in the law, and I can give you a perfect example, always in the law, we are identified as individuals. And the reason that is, is because both the rights and the duties are contained in the same entity. In other words, with a corporation, you can find a corporation, but you can't put it in jail, can you? No, but if it's an egregious enough situation, you can do what they call piercing the corporate veil, which means you go after the board of directors because the board of directors have the duties. The corporation has the rights of board of directors have the duties. They're not in the same entity, but they aren't individuals, okay? And also persons can be trusts, they can be partnerships, they can be sole proprietorships. There's a bunch of things, they're not just a corporation, which is what our community illegal researchers, at least as far as I've tapped into them over the years, they all believe that. Even Al Adams told me that years ago when we were doing shows together. So that little formula is very important, do you notice that you got two items on the left rights plus duties, we could go into that discussion further, let's keep it there at this point, and equal to those two items on the left across the equal sign is remedies. So I guess remedies are as important and equal to rights and duties. That's something you probably haven't been exposed to before, right? Right. So, well, let's go in. Well, so have you heard word or admiralty law and maritime law and stuff there, Connor? Yeah. Yes, sir. Okay. Well, let me prove to you. That's not correct. Okay. The only, what's the remedy in admiralty law? Only one. They only got one remedy. I don't know it prize in admiralty laws, prize of military law, martial law, it's called booty on the land. Okay. So there's no process. There's just I kick your butt and I take your stuff. That's not happening up there, is it? There's a whole lot of process deal with the IRS and see all the process they got to go through to make something right or an administrative agency and everything they've got to go through. So it can't be admiralty because it's not prize. They're not just coming into your garden, yank in your car. They've gone through a lot of process and things called self-help remedies and all kinds of things to get to that point. They just don't sail up near you with a foreign flag or a flag of your country and then the minute they get close enough, they take that down and run the Jolly Roger up and throw planks over and come kick your butt and take your stuff. That's admiralty. Maritime, the only action is called the bill of libel. So do you see many bills of libel floating around the courts up there? No. Because it's not maritime law. See, the whole thing is uniform commercial code. It was called the Babylonian merchant code. It was called for thousands of years and still is the law merchant. And then today we call it the uniform commercial code. It's the code of contracts. So everything's contract, even this IRS thing which and this status thing that we're talking about, it's a contract for one you've probably never heard of, a silent contract that runs generationally from the feudal system. Very few people are familiar with that, but it's a contract nonetheless. And they recognize it. So you got a lot of things here and this is why I harp on foundations and you get in these foundation things, right? But it'll take a little bit of time for you to get it. You're not going to get it overnight or instantly, more than likely. But I can prove that it works and I can prove to you this. If you take the time to learn it, these bastards can never fool you again, because they can never get you into the wrong personhood. Right. Here, over on IRS, here's the IRS's jurisdictional statement. It's at 1.1-1 a 26 code of federal regulations, 1.1-1 a, all right? I'm going to just quote it for you. "An income tax is owed by all persons." No, because this is the individual income tax. If they used the word "person" there, they could go over and attach that to corporations because they're persons, okay? So what do they use? They use that word "individual." An income tax is owed by all individuals who are citizens of the United States or residents and to the extent of 871B and 877B, all non-resident individuals. So that's us. You might think it's Jose, the tomato picker, but it's not. You're just non-resident to the 14th Amendment and because you're the old state citizen, you're alien from the federal government's federal citizens. So they just turn it as a non-resident alien. But the important thing I wanted to make there was the word "individuals" in that because it's individual income tax. They've got corporate schedules for corporate income taxes and all that. And that would be a proper legal person, but where they want to really identify an individual under all this stuff I've just explained to you, they use the word "individuals." These people know what they're doing and they're slick and if you don't know and understand this stuff, you'll never catch it. So anyway, I kind of hijacked you there, but because I wanted to prove a point and what I want to do with people like you is I don't want you relying on all this stuff that you've heard in the past, thought it was right and you've incorporated into your thought process here. And what I want to do is get that stuff out of there in a clean slate and let's get you started out and restarted out correctly, okay? Right, amen. So what else? Well, I took some good notes and for getting that foundation, is there a video or something specific that you can recommend that you feel like is the best synthesis of... Oh, well, the first thing I'd say is go through a couple of the interviews that are on the site. There's several that are particularly good, maybe better than others because they cover all the bases and one of those would be Deanna Spingola and the other one is the guy might be with us here today is Tom D. He runs RBN over there, Republic Broadcasting and Tom's been studying this stuff for longer than I have 40 years. And when I was finally able to get his attention through some of our listeners contacting, so you need to listen, and we got into it and Tom's remark was I've been looking for this for 40 years. So this is what nobody ever had and the reason our community is not because they're bad people. I think they're all genuinely looking for an answer, you know, that works. This is hidden so skillfully that the big piece that everybody's missing is it's the feudal system and most people know nothing about the feudal system and therefore they can't relate to it. They don't know how to operate or they'd see how easy this is to get out of because there was only two forms of slavery in a thousand years of the feudal system in voluntary servitude, which is outlawed in the 13th amendment. So it can't be that, well, the only other one is voluntary. So if you know it's the feudal system, you know it's voluntary servitude because it can't be anything else. Yeah, it makes perfect sense. Okay. So how easy is that over the 32 years I've been this and all these people that have beat their head against the wall and gotten into trouble, spent time in jail, got fleeced out of their houses and possessions, all they had to know is that one little thing is the feudal system and they connect it to birthright citizenship because the feudal system was the only system in the history of the planet that ever had birthright citizenship as part of their regular society. And so they bring that in and the 14th amendment, people don't put those two connected and nobody understands what they're actually in. What they're volunteering to be in. Do they answer yes to those two questions every time they ever ask them and sign something. Everybody listening to me right now has answered yes to those two questions and signed it all their lives. And the two questions are, I would imagine one is, are you a citizen? Are you a citizen in the United States or you're a resident? Yeah. Now, you heard a little bit earlier, hold on, Merkah, you heard a little bit earlier about Brown versus Board of Education. And what they did was overturn Plessy versus Ferguson, separate but equal from 1896 and said equal in the classroom, equal in the society. What they did there was make the two statuses the same. And as I was discussing with Mark, it's torch. I don't know what tortured legal reasoning they used, but they made them the same. And now because they're the same, they can only, they can ask you just one side or you a citizen in the United States. See there's fraud right there from a lack of disclosure. They're not asking you, are you a citizen of the United States or a national when both the statuses are equal? They're just asking you the leading question or you a citizen in the United States. It's lack of disclosure. So there's so many layers of fraud here, Connor, it's like ridiculous. Okay. Let me see what Merkah's got. Merkah, what were you going to add? I just wanted to tell Connor that I forward these student data to Keaton so he can forward it to him. And I don't know if he's requesting on national status freedom yet, but I welcome him there. And Tom Dee's interviews are on there too and Devin's citizenship head book. There's a whole bunch of information that you can use as resource on the website and the other one that I thought was particularly good was the one I did with Badass Uncle Sam back in December. The reason I think that was so effective is because I kind of changed the approach on presenting the information and instead of presenting the information and telling you about the equivocation and how they do the word thing, I went through that first so that then when you've got a grasp of what they're doing there and putting dialectics in your mind and conditioning you to them opposites, then you can go and show how they've laid out everything and they can understand what they've done. And that's your tool to get in your sanity back, by the way, is really understanding that dialectic process on taking an opposite definition, 180 degrees, and then they very slickly with high degree of Pavlovian conditioning and they condition you to that opposite definition. So are you a citizen of the United States or are you a citizen of the United States of America? Well, aren't they the same? Well, no. I've got your condition to sit us in the United States that every time I ask you those questions, you'll answer that. Yes, won't you? And sign something. And now every time you do it, you reinforce that you're in their little contract deal because you're saying it again. Yeah. All right. They're asking you, hey, are you in the same condition as former black Negro slaves after the Civil War with federal rights and federal civil rights and federal citizenship? Oh, yeah, that's me. Are you a resident? Yeah. I live right over here, okay? So and they mean exactly the opposite, but they've got you where you'll answer those questions. See, we don't understand the way we think, Connor, I'm assuming that you're not into smuggling children for sex trafficking over the borders and all this other stuff they do. See, so we don't think like that, do we? But they know damn well how we think because they've been studying this for thousands of years. Yeah. Okay. So. Well, I appreciate the guidance all dig in, and I did want to say just relating to the just Sarah and Sarah conversation that Zimbabwe is one of the biggest players in that if it does come to pass. And I don't know if people have looked, but their currency got inflated to where they had $100 trillion notes and then right that bankers collapse their currency. Right. Well, I think I just, I think I discard in the sorrow just on that piece of information right there. What that Zimbabwe is a big player in it. Yes. Well, just that they have massive gold and precious, precious metal, precious mineral assets, which is why the fed bankers destroyed their economy so thoroughly. And big part of just our NSR is return to an asset back currency and jet jubilee, which publicly is meant to happen every 50 years. And just this last year, along with Saudi Arabia, ditching the dollar and bricks ditching the dollar and talking about going gold back Zimbabwe has the zig and it's officially gold back. So in terms of looking at traction in the real world relating to this thing that people have been talking about for decades, that's one example of something real actually happening. Okay. Well, you know, they're the bad guys have given back some gold mines to some of these African countries and then they're saying, oh, they got so much gold and we did a sample and this and the other. They're evidently messing with the sample rate and overestimating that. Do you think that the bad guys are going to give away a gold mine that's still got some worth left in it? Well, that's up to you, uh, not voluntarily, not voluntarily. So, uh, you got to watch these guys. I mean, I'm showing you how slick these people are with what we talk about here and are what we emphasize. Okay. And focus on it specifically. They're this slick and all these other areas to hear people talk about how stupid they are. These people, I'm telling you, they ain't stupid. Yeah. David, they're smart. Uh, are you, are you a Christian? Just to foundation? I'm just okay. Yes. What are you going to say? I don't think you can get into this information and not be hardly, really, because everything you study goes back to the Bible. Uh-huh. Yep. Yep. Um, Raj? Yes. Uh, just to quick, well, just to, excuse me, just a quick note for Connor, all the resources that, uh, that Merkham mentioned and more are also on the matrix docs.com or nationals only.com. Uh, lots of stuff in there, um, and, uh, yeah, nationals only done, that'll get you there. Yeah. Uh, I thought I was, you know, I was digging around, uh, the internet, looking at Ms. Lara stuff and I came across an executive order from 2018, September 20th, 2018, signed by President Trump and it is the executive order authorizing the implementation of certain sanctions set forth in the countering America's adversaries through sanctions act. But the really interesting part of this is the first paragraph by the power vested in me as president by the constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the international emergency economic powers act, 50 US code 1701, the national emergencies act, 50 US code 1601, the countering America's adversaries through sanctions act, public law 115 dash 44, the Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014, public law 113 dash 272 as amended, uh, of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 and section 301 of title three in the United States code. But I thought the most interesting part of that was he put in place the ability to, um, to levy sanctions against not only countries and organizations, but individuals. And he has also stated, uh, the laws of the United States of America. And no, the United States is not in all camps. I just thought that was interesting. Okay. Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot in the executive orders that point to a lot more than what we see on the surface, yeah, Clinton came out and talked about the national one of his market has got that. Whatever it was. So, uh, okay, I want to talk a little bit about it. Hold on a second. Connor, we covered everything with you. That was that one other one I was talking about interviews called God's Trump card and it was with badass Uncle Sam is probably down there at the bottom, but all of those interviews are good. Okay. All of them, you get cut off the one with John B. Don B Wells is good because I approached that in a whole new, uh, different way of this is the matrix, you know, and it's a very interesting way that's developed. Marka. Roger, I put all the good ones in a section, uh, where I just forward to all the new students that come in, um, including the handbook. So, you know, um, Tom D, um, the Trump cards, one of my favorite ones, uh, and, uh, shorter videos in there. So I have a good list of those videos and your, it was good with, it was good with Tom because he'd been studying the same stuff for so many years, but he didn't ever put all of this together because he didn't understand it was a feudal system. Mark the same way Mark here with us, been a paralegal. He's been in this 20 years or more. And he said, Roger, when I heard you say it was the feudal system, it changed my life. He had gotten totally out of the Patriot movement because of all of the crap that's floating around. And then one of my old listeners is a friend of his and he used to tell Mark, you need to listen to Roger. Need to listen to Roger. Okay. Okay. Okay. Roger. Roger. Roger. I was sick of hearing that Ralph Winterroot died and Tom asked me to take his slot. I was over there for a couple of years on the Sunday nights and, and Mark used to do shows with Ralph and he said, well, I'll see who filled in Ralph's spot and boom, he gets hit with all this and we drug him right, slap back into the Patriot movement. Hey, man, you got to say that Mark, let me see if he's got a very interesting perspective because he's a paralegal. Yeah, Connor, I, you know, 20 years as an independent paralegal and I've, I've won four appeals, five, if you count one that was dismissed by a bank and the, the Pelicor called it moot. I would call it five appellate wins and five different states under five different areas of law. So I know a little bit about the, the, the legal process. Yeah. And my last one that my research and writing was responsible for winning was on jurisdiction. And that was personum jurisdiction from one state over, over another individual that lived in a different state. So, yeah, definitely and, and, you know, I was, again, like Roger said, I was my mentor, Dan matter, let me back up, my mentor, Dan matter who I first met in 1999 unknowingly, he to me, he had chest been released from federal prison for totally trumped up charges. Yeah. And before he died, he wrote, you know, it was prolific writer. He had a degree in journalism and English and he had written a memorandum about jurisdiction. And in that he kept referencing the national. So, you know, prior to 2003, we knew there was a link to being a national and it separated you from being a US citizen, but we didn't know how to officially declare that status. And now we didn't understand it didn't understand it was the feudal system. So they didn't understand that you got to go to one guy that's the Lord of the manor that's over that subject matter. In this instance, it's the secretary of state and the reason he has that power is because since the start of the country, he is the one that's always issued passports. And to issue a passport to introduce you to foreign nations, he's got to introduce you correctly to his knowledge as which legal personality you are for. Where do you get your rights and whom you owe your duties? Well, that's the guy they've used to hide this whole thing and drive it. Yeah, and Connor, when Roger first explained or the first time, I heard him explain the feudal system. I got up out of my chair and did a little happy dance because that is the missing piece of this puzzle. Yeah. If I grasp the feudal system, it makes perfect sense. Yeah. And the other thing though, hold on, Connor, I want to let you run in a second. When my book came out two weeks to the day after the book came out, I got contacted by a guy that was one of Dan Metters research team leaders. He was a retired homicide detective down in Naples, Florida. His name is Jim Prentice and Jim wrote me a nice email and he said, Roger, your book's a masterpiece. Now get this, Connor, I've read it 10 times in two weeks and gotten something different out of it every time. And he said, Roger, when we finally spoke, he said, Roger, we had everything you've got except the affidavit. And because they didn't know it was the feudal system, they couldn't figure out about the lord of the manor thing, so they didn't know how to volunteer out. Right. And what's the name of the book? You can add, link it through the website from sovereign to surf government by the treachery and deception of words. Now that same day, I got an email from a family, and I think it was Wisconsin, and they basically said the same thing. They said, Roger, your book's a masterpiece, and they said, we want you to know it's on the family bookshelf next to the bible. Amen. Okay. Yeah, I will say that when I have gone up against the course system a number of times, there was never that final resolution, and it always seemed like, oh, they're corrupt, so they're just not even going to recognize the truth. But this now makes sense why that authority to remove yourself from the system was lacking in the approach that I was taking before, and the approach that my mentors were taking before. Yeah. So this is exciting, and I've always known that the secretary of state was a very influential position for the Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderberg crew, and knowing that they are the ones who have that authority over each of us, and our status, and how our personhood is defined makes even more sense. Well it's really interesting, and I want to say hello to Keaton, and I want to welcome you, but we had a guy that's taken time out of his schedule to be with us here in this hour, and I don't want to neglect him, so he's going to ask some basic questions. He's going to ask some things you're going to want to listen to, okay? So please come back, I hope you're free pretty much during the day at this time, and you can come back, and we can have long conversations and explanations. But if Leland's out there, I don't want to turn our back on him, because he's got some questions which you probably, and Keaton can benefit from also. So Leland, are you with us, were you able to make it? I'm here. Hey Roger, how are you? Can you hear me? Hi, Leland. I sure can. Loud and clear, man. Well welcome, okay, and congratulations on the information resonating with you. You've got some real good handlers, and I know you and Ed are probably good friends, and Thor and Ed have been just great, and how can we help you today? Thanks for having me. I think this came about because my wife and I spoke about marriage licenses and not knowing much about it when we got into the whole, when we decided to get married. We didn't like any of asking the state's permission, because it was between the two of us, and then worse for parents. But then various family members have been pressed upon us. Essentially the common law marriage is not recognized in Florida. I was just reading the exact text of that, and the way that Florida law is written sounds essentially like. We don't recognize common law marriage, but if you've practically speaking gone through with the common law marriage, we're not going to treat you like you're unmarried. Well they can't, because the common law is the basis of the state. All property laws, state law, and all of the states have the common law, and the federal government may have it, we don't know for sure if they do it's hidden in one court called the US court of claims, but the states have to recognize common law. Now Georgia did it way with that too with common law when I was living up there, but I'm sure underneath they kind of still got a deal with it. So go ahead, I'm sorry I interrupted you. You know we've even got common law here in Ecuador, and they're not a common law country. Roger. That's interesting, because they come out of viceroy law with this colony, right? Yeah, yeah hold on, Marka, what do you got? On the common law marriage, the only reason that the United States doesn't recognize it is because they're presuming and assuming it's a US citizen that they're talking to. As a national, it doesn't really matter. All states have it, you don't have it, you're in Florida, Leland. Correct. What part? Tables. Okay, I'm from Panama City through Zion. Yes, on that, yeah, you're a big county paperwork, okay, hold on, yes, Paul. We do have somebody on the board. I don't know if he's available, or if he's Greece from head to foot, but Joe, our buddy in Oklahoma, he knows all the ins and outs of how to consider people, partners, and how to put in place whatever is necessary to protect either person with powers of attorney, agreements, deeds, all that stuff. He's very, very knowledgeable on that. Okay. You know where marriage licenses came from, Leland? No, I'd love to know, Virginia, and Virginia passed a law that if you had a misogynistic marriage, you had to have a permission or a birth certificate to do it. Rockefeller saw the viability of that and just spread it all over everywhere. Now, when you get one of those, your marriage is you and your wife in the state, and that's why when we have children, they can come in and take your children or anything else because you are their property. You ask them permission. They are involved and byproduct of your marriage, your children, they have a property right in. That's what makes CPS so deadly. It's just like the Jones plantation. It does, and it's also because they're considered citizens of the United States unless they go through this process. So all of those things work against them. Now, one of our girls and you can hear the interview she came on the air and told us about the experience actually rescued her rebellious daughter out of CBS's hands from a children's hospital in a meeting with the administrator, three attorneys and the CPS person. And she laid her affidavits on the table, stayed at her case. They said, leave the room for five minutes. They came out and said, you and your daughter are free to go. That administrator and those attorneys knew if they followed up with that and kept going that they were going to get lawsuits that would probably put them in bankruptcy. And that's the only case I've ever heard of anybody getting a child out of CPS's grasp. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I was wearing the marriage. Paul, you can give us a couple of high points on that and you give us some high points. It was just a, just a, can a surface? We don't have, we don't have a lot of time. Jog, you've got something you can bring in this brief or we can come back and revisit it. Okay. Listen, I want to, I want to cover, I want to get more of a feel. I know your questions weren't just about a marriage license. So what else can we help you with this major? Well, the tough thing is that it's very hard to know who to trust when I ask questions about this because, you know, and I'm being what I am a physician. I know that my trade, my profession tends to get indoctrinated into believing things that are not true and then you can't, generally speaking, reason them outside of their paradigm and I expect lawyers to be the same way. So I don't really trust lawyers when it comes to listening questions about this, but I also don't know where to go to find definitive proof that I can or how to go about having a marriage that's outside of the marriage license, but still provides my wife and I with the legal benefits, covenants, whatever you want to call them of marriage. Does that make sense? Yeah, but I don't, I think anything that they're going to come after you for that's involved with the marriage license is negated when you go through this process because you're moving out from under their jurisdiction of manmade rules and regulations back over under total constitutional protections as a, a child of God, the way we were meant to be when we were born. Okay. So I think maybe by just going through the process that will solve virtually all the questions you've got of any apprehensions. Okay. Sure, but don't you do, I mean, I, I assume you get the question, you know, how do we, how do we know all this is true, what I'm looking for, yeah, other than the testimony we've, we've gone through it. Well, okay. Well, I can give you a couple because we always give sources where you can go check these things out yourself. We've got a very accomplished attorney on with us every Friday, Brent Winters and myself have been doing shows on Friday for over 10 years. Brent is an exceptionally fine Christian. He's translated his own Bible. He's a great lawyer. He's written all kinds of books on the common law. Where is he, what? Is he practicing? Yes. Yes, you can hire him, okay, where his website is common lawyer.com and he is a great, great guy. You can go back through our archives every Friday. I don't think we've missed a few lately for the first time in over 10 years, but for a long time, we hardly ever even missed a Friday because Brent and I enjoy the show so much. But you'll really like him, he's extremely knowledgeable and I'm tickled to death to be associated with him and he's never, if my stuff wasn't correct, do you think he'd be doing weekly shows with me for over 10 years? He wouldn't, okay, so there's a good resource for you on all the stuff we talk about. It may be a little hard to find, but we can point you to places you can find it. You're talking about attorney. It's not that they're necessarily so bad, it's just that like you, how much, when you went through law school, how much did they expose you to vitamins and minerals and things about food diets and stuff as to people's health? I mean, not at all, you know, which is why I don't have, yeah, okay, well, that's the same way with lawyers because they've been in control of the organization called the American, yeah, American Association of Colleges and Law Schools and they've had control of that organization for 100 years and that would also mean having some control over their curriculum, wouldn't it? It seems we don't teach this stuff anymore. Just like what I was telling Connor about person, the word person, tell you a story from my law teacher who's a great man. The reason we're all here is because of the sacrifices he made in his life. Our paths crossed, he was an exceptionally good teacher with great knowledge and I was an exceptionally interested and good student, okay, and out of 1,200 people that paid to go through their course over six months before the IRS closed them down, I'm the only one that took this information further or we wouldn't know all this today. Now this was a story John told us. He called up one of the law schools in Utah, he was a devout Mormon. He called up one of the law schools in Utah and he was talking to the dean, he got the dean on the phone. He said, well, I'm considering coming back to law school and he goes, oh, we'd love to have you and just that and the other gives him the spiel, you know, and John goes, well, I'm particularly interested in the word person. And the dean goes, oh, yeah, we teach that. We teach that in a course called jurisprudence. It's an elective course and when we get enough people that have signed up, we teach it. And John very astutely said, when was the last time you taught it? Six years ago, six years of graduating law students went through and into practice without being exposed to the concept of the definition of the word person, which is almost in every statute and regulation. Now how the hell do you expect them to know about it? Okay? Yeah, I know. Same thing. Same thing as the medical. You know, you can't think outside the box or utilize these things that you're never exposed to. It's why dentists don't know about mercury in their fillings. It's why doctors don't know about food being a medicine like Hippocrates in the oath said, medicine be your food, be your medicine, medicine be your food. And it's also why all these people don't know these things when we try and confront them with them. They've never been exposed to them and somehow they've been conditioned to where they can't think outside the box. Yeah. I'm assuming that the Chevron ruling doesn't really help this because it doesn't change the fundamental beliefs between the living flesh and blood, man or woman in the state, correct? Well, the Chevron decision is a big deal. It's going to change the course of the country here forward. One of the things they couldn't do is to go back and change every decision that's been based on what they call the Chevron deference internally. And I'll explain to you what that is. But they did say those cases could be re-litigated under the new findings. The administrative state was set up after the bankruptcy in '33. If you've not seen, and this goes to Connor and Keaton too, over and on the website, there's a new student section and in there is a video about two hours long, almost called War and Emergency Powers by a doctor, he's a veterinarian named Gene Schroeder out of Colorado, that all you new people need to watch that because it is the foundation of what we built on here because that's when they changed the system. We show you how they changed the system. Gene Schroeder takes you up to how and why with all the proof that they did. Okay, it should be required viewing for all you new folks out there, all right? And so after '33, there weren't any agencies before '33 because there weren't any serfs. So they changed the system. That's when Roosevelt took the gold, right? We'll see free people that are unencumbered, use real money, gold and silver to buy things that they can own because no one has a property right in them. After '33, when they came out with the paper, which you're now the collateral for, you can only purchase things and discharge the debt with other debt. That's what the paper is, debt. So you can't pay a debt, you can only discharge it, and you can't own anything, you can only control it and possess it. That's why you got a certificate of title for your car. That's why your house, if you don't pay, even though it's paid for and you don't pay the taxes on it, is sold on the courthouse step. And basically because property can't own property. So after '33, they switch us all into this Jim Crow position, and then they start building the administrative agencies, which make you require, have licenses to practice medicine and things like that. So that's when the agencies grew up. And the original intent of the agencies was to reinterpret legislation from the Congress. And so what they had done since Chevron in '84 was they just turned that totally loose and they said, well, you're the administrative agency, you're the experts, so you can interpret that legislation any way you want to. And the bureaucratic state has been wrong in the country since then. Well, this Chevron case did, Chevron's decision, I guess, is what it'll come to be called. That was back in 1984. But this one puts the Administrative Procedures Act and puts teeth back into it. See, after they started growing in the '30s, they tried to pass a rule book for all these new agencies. There'd never been agencies before. There's nothing about it in the Constitution. So they had to put a rule book in where Congress would agree to everything. And they didn't do it for 13 years. It didn't get passed until 1946, it's called the Administrative Procedures Act. It's codified at Title 5, Section 552, and following. And those are the rules that the Administrative State has to follow. Well, Chevron allowed them to totally drift away from the Administrative Procedures Act. And the biggest thing it did is it put teeth back into the Administrative Procedures Act. Now, interestingly enough, the case that overturned Chevron, I'm not sure where it came from, but you're down there, Naples. You a fisherman, Leland? No. Well, they did it with a fishing company. A fishing, one of the agencies that overseas could be fishing. I heard about it. Yeah, I'm familiar with the recent Supreme Court case on the stand, the fishermen. Right. Well, for the audience, they passed a rule back in 2014. And any fishing company had to have somebody that was overseeing the boat that they were doing all the fishing correctly, and the rub was, you had to pay for them out of your own pocket. So the people that brought this suit were being bankrupt because they were having to pay a guy $700 a day who had to come in and police them. Fans weren't paying for it. They had to. And that's what overturned all this. Thank God. There was another big one up there, this term on the SEC, because the SEC was appointing their own judges, weren't running them through Congress, and then running their cases through their own court. Yeah. Okay. I mean, they've just gotten totally lawless up there, all right? But yeah, very interesting, well, so I'm glad you're up on stuff like that, Leland. So what else can we help you with today? Today, what else can we help you with? Well, the boil it down, right? People have gone through this process to your knowledge. I've never had a problem maintaining their parental rights to their children. And based on your understanding of these laws, having the marriage license opens the children up to anything the state essentially can- Well, it's very simple to remedy. You and Momma- No, I understand- Right. Yeah, I'm just confirming my understanding of what you've seen not only in your reading of the law, but in people actually going through this problem. Well, I've been teaching people about this for 13, a little over 13 years now on the year. Yeah. And if there's a rough letter or something, Roger, Roger, Roger, I got a letter, you know, so I'm the first person they call, all right? I've never heard of one case of blowback in 13 years from the federal government. Now we occasionally have problems with the states, okay? But not the feds. They recognize this. They know what it is. They know it strips some of their power because it's all based on fraud. And I got to tell you, they're scared as hell with this. Hmm. Got it. Yeah. So now we've got to operate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now we've got the- Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I can pull it on through the state. And obviously I don't anticipate any problems with CPS. No. No. I just hear a horror story about coming after good people who just don't want to- Follow the standard of care for obvious reasons. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. Okay. What to do, Leland? I don't really think I have a- I don't really think I have a- A follow up question. Okay. Hold on. Paul's got- Okay. Paul's got something for you here. You and the wife file affidavits with the Secretary of State of the United States, declaring your national status, reaffirming your national status. And then you and the wife file affidavits for your children. You make them nationals as well. Yeah. That is what Sarah did when she got her daughter out of CPS. Not only did husband and wife have affidavits, but they also had affidavits on file for each of the children. And that is the affidavit they brought put down on the table. You can't have my daughter. She's mine. Right. They let her go. Yeah. Yeah. Leland, it's the only time I've ever heard of anybody getting a kid out of CPS's clutches. I'm serious about that. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm not stressed about that. Okay. So, all right. Well, Liz, we're about at the end of the show here. We can hang around for a little bit if you want to. If you've got to go, Ed said you made special time to be with us. You can do that anytime and be with us. And also we do the show on Saturdays for people like yourself that work all week and can't be with us without altering something. And you're certainly welcome us to join us on a Saturday show also. Okay. And here we got three new students today. Pardon me. Yeah. We're on six days a week, Monday through Saturday. Okay. Great. Thanks very much. I appreciate your time. Archives, archives, shows six and a half a Mississippi mama got six and a half years of archives. You can go back and dwell on and all kinds of information. And we're always here. And if that's not enough for you, if you want to do a personal consult, we can schedule one of those two. Okay. Hey, mama. How you doing? I'm doing fine. Yes. Check them in. I've been listening and enjoying the show. You want to know do you have any idea when you're coming? Well, we keep kicking it around. We hadn't come up with some definitive, but it's still in conversation. Okay. Mama lives about two hours a year. All right. So we will good to hear your voice. So anyway, thanks as a really good show today. We got new students. We covered a lot of real basic stuff and that's kind of things I really like doing. I think everybody benefits off of it. And I'll tell you one statement, you cannot hear these basics enough times. You can't hear it enough, okay? And the freer, the better you get command of it, the freer you are and the more empowered you're going to be. Okay. And that's part of this deal, Leland, is we're connecting back with our maker and getting the rights that we were meant to have that birth that were stolen from us by Esau Edom stealing his birth right back because that's what's happened. Okay. So I guess we're about ready to close. Thank you so much. Yeah. And we've got to wing discuss after we get out of here, but we're going to close out and Paul's got to close out signals and and be the engineer that he is and all that kind of stuff. And thank you so much, Leland Connor, Keaton, really good to meet you and I expect to speak with you again. Okay. Keaton, hardly at all, but but we were still here in the future. Oh, okay. Well, who was just saying something right there as we were closing out? Is that Devin? That was me. Yeah. Okay. I'll wait till we close out. Okay. All right. Well, I think we're probably off the air. So what can we do for you? So I'm from Colorado. I was on the show a month ago. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Your wife. Yeah. Your wife and you got a new baby. Um, kind of just been working, so I've just been super distracted, but we've applied and we got our passports back almost like within a week, which is really cool, um, but we're having a lot of, yeah, we put in travel dates and we put it in like expedited, expedited shipping and all that stuff. We got it back in the week. It was crazy. But when we applied for our daughter's passport, um, we're, we've been having issues for the past like six months, um, but having tons of back and forth because, um, he doesn't have a birth certificate under her name. She was born in the hospital, but we refuse to give them her name because we didn't want her to have a birth certificate. We were trying to do a home birth so that she completely pulled out of the system. Right. And so we applied with like a news statement saying, Hey, we have this baby, like we documented it in the news with a news announcement. We had torn after David's from witnesses that were there. We had a signature like we had our Bible scan that has our names and her name in there. Um, and like all of this evidence proving that she was born in Colorado on this day, this way, this is her name. This is how like she's our child, all this other stuff, including the whole sworn after David stuff, like she's a non citizen national, or sorry, non resident national, um, and sent that information just the way that we did, but they, um, they halted it and they said, we need to see that we need to see the birth records that she was actually born in the hospital. And so we sent her the birth records that said she was born here. And on one of those records, instead of that, we refused to, um, like spill out the paperwork for the birth certificate, um, and that was a whole ordeal that I can go into later. Um, I highly recommend not doing that at the hospital because they will really lock you in the hospital. Um, but the hospital's pissed because they didn't get paid for the birth. Yeah. So what they did, um, is they let us leave because, I mean, I tried to play the cool, like, oh, we don't have a name for it. So can I fill this out in like a couple of days and send it back to you? They're like, oh, okay. Yeah, that's fine. Um, and then I just never sent it back to them and never gave him the name. And then they called me, like, almost every single day, like, Hey, we need this paperwork, Hey, we need this paperwork. And then, um, I actually had Connor, who you just met to be my acting attorney general or something, um, and was pretending to be my lawyer saying, Hey, you can't do this. This is unconstitutional. This is against religious rights and all stuff. Basically, we just put up enough of a fight that it prolonged the process for about two weeks that they finally left with alone. And they finally sent us a letter saying that they created a birth certificate with the name baby whitehead. Um, and like it was completely against our will. We never signed anything. We never gave them our permission or any of that. And, um, so when we sent the hospital records to the passport office, they sent another letter back saying that we need to, uh, go to, um, what's it called the vital statistics and get like a letter from them stating that there is no birth certificate under her name. And so we send a letter off to vital statistics and they came back with us saying that she does have a record. It's just not under her name and they won't send us anything until we correct, um, the baby whitehead to her actual name. Okay. Um, okay. Just go correct. Go correct. Okay. That's, that's kind of what my question was, was like, I feel like I'm fighting a lot of stuff that doesn't need to be fought. If I just get first, I'm gonna get in and then just re you're wasting a lot of your time and energy, uh, chasing your tail, correct it because you've already got an affidavit for it. And so if any usage of that document as a warehouse receipt should be negated with that. Now you can't, not going to stock these you bastards from doing all that stuff, but at least you're clear on it. Tell vital statistics, put her name in there, send it, get her passport, make sure affidavit's on file. I'm pretty sure you're fine. Okay. Okay. That was just like, we already went through so much Haskell and trouble was like, do I need to like fight this and say you create the birth certificate against our will. No, but, uh, you know, you got, you got, you got bad economic situation. You're a young couple with your first child. Are you, are you, uh, independently wealthy there, Keaton? No, we both work full time. Okay. So what do you waste in your valuable time for chasing this that has no bearing, get her numb name properly, get it from the vital statistics, send it and get her passport, put the affidavit in there and y'all will be fine and you won't be wasting your time. Okay. Um, I think that's the clarity that I needed to move forward. And then my second thing was, cause I was listening a little show about the marriage certificates. Do I need to worry about that with like, my wife and I were married with sort of state. We didn't notice the time, but do I need to go and correct that or? Well, not really. You're correcting it by filing your affidavit and changing your status. Okay. So it's not, it's not, not anything critical. No. Um, and then I think I've mentioned this before, it just, it, I apologize for being redundant with fit, but I do have two businesses that are LLCs. Does me paying taxes on those or anything negate what I've done? Uh, no, no, it, cause taxes are voluntary. You're just giving them money that you wouldn't have to give them if you'll get things straightened out. Okay. So how do I, how would I say in an LLC out, what I'm like, well email me, email the straw man email email the straw man, he'll mark, awake him up, uh, straw man at markallcaps.com It doesn't have to be all caps, just markallcaps.com and let Mark fill in on what he's found out. Okay. Okay, so strawman@holcaps.com? No. No. No. No. No. Mark. Mark. Mark. M-A-R-K-A-L-L-C-A-P-S.com. Markallcaps.com. Okay. Okay, what else? Okay. That's it. You're pretty easy. See the half of David cures all that crap. Because anything they were going to do to you is all tied to be in a citizen of the United States and you're not one of them anymore. Yeah, that makes sense. Cool. Okay. Okay. So, who else has got something? Leland, did you come up with anything more? Are you still with us? I think Leland might have split. Okay. Well, he's a busy doctor and young guy and all that stuff. Who else has got something here? Good show today. Well, real quick, Roger, if a couple were nationals before the birth of their child and they ask about citizenship status on the birth certificate records, could they put down that they're not a U.S.? Their baby is not a U.S. citizen and not a resident? You know, you don't know Tom Shram used to be one of my patriot buddies when talking a long time. No name, but I'm not familiar with it. Tom is a real character, to say the least, okay? He had his child, his son, Jacob out of not in the hospital at home, a certificate of live birth, all that other stuff. And so, when he got 16, or a little before 16, he was trying to get him a passport and he's going through the same thing that Keaton's going through. And they're back and forth to the State Department. And the presumption was that he was a citizen of the United States, even though none of that paperwork was ever initiated. No so security number, no birth certificate, none of that stuff, and still the presumptions are there. Okay. That's going to happen. Yeah, because the Tom had never gone through it correctly. And so he was the father and the mother and their both citizens in the United States, so the presumptions in place. Okay. And so here's the questions are on the current forms for that because it's just my opinion could be totally wrong. But if you're given the opportunity as a birth parent to put down that the baby is not a US citizen, that'd be very interesting. I don't know. Where are you? I don't know that you've got there. They're still going to presume it up there. Yeah, Paul. What's your comment? Under the 14th Amendment, because that baby was born here, it is presumed to be a United States citizen. And as far as Keaton and his issue, what I would do is I would go after the hospital because the hospital has caused the problems that he's having. They never had authorization to file a birth certificate or submit any information to the department of records. They had absolutely no business doing that. And the hospital should hang for it. But that's me. You want to take the time? Okay, you want to take the time to do that and all that stuff and whatever? Okay. Well, hopefully it'll get the follow-up. I'd say go. I'd say go on about it. Okay. One more quick thing. Even for no other reason than to get the hospital to send a letter to the secretary of state that they filed the birth certificate without knowing the accurate name they picked one out of the abyss. They had no authorization from the parent to do it. And we've heard a story before. It's not the first time it's happened. It's not the first time it's been brought to my attention. And the reason they're doing it is because the federal governments pay in the hospital for every child that's born into slavery there. That's the reason they went ahead and did it for themselves and they couldn't get paid until they had a birth certificate. That's why all this is going on. Okay. But what I was going to say about Tom was Tom. They said contact the Georgia vital records and he did and that was a year of the census. And the census taker had come by the house and registered Jacob on the census and they had a record of it. That astounds me. But anyway, I don't know whatever happened with Tom in his passport. I said you need to take him to the U.S. court of claims. He wouldn't do. I don't want to have anything to do with him. He muddied the water so much in the Georgia courts that he couldn't get anywhere. And so I don't know whatever happened with it. But Tom's about as stubborn as they come. All right. So anyway, that's about that. Who had something to say there a minute ago? Roger Samuel. One thing that may give the states some pause would be entering it evidence as a Christian the baptismal record to supersede the birth certificate. Great idea. I'm still looking for mine. But I'm going to start using that. And for the people who want a very Christian point of view about what law is and where man's law stops and God's laws start and how to conduct yourself in life, the book of the hundreds is an excellent read regarding that. And of course it gets into the abatement process when you come into conflict with the state. All righty. So, yes. I is this Connor again. My wife is very pregnant and we've not corrected our status for a long time now. And now because I didn't have a group like this that was laying out a very precise path that made sense to me, I just figured the best I could do was be well educated and be able to articulate a God-given, unalienable right in real time to whatever perceived authority figure. So I haven't done anything to correct my status or my wife's status. And we're having a home birth, we're not having a midlife attend, and it's going to be completely outside the system. And have you conned? Do you know about doulas? Do you know about doulas? Yeah, we have a virtual midwife who was really incredible. And my wife and I are both independent researchers and journalists and learned a ton. I mean, basically, when you just leave birth alone, it unfolds really well. And the majority of the problems that people see, if not all of them, are caused by intervention from a satanic medical system and then that leads to a cascade of interventions. But my plan was to put in our Bible to record that our child had arrived in our family Bible and take it down to the county clerk's office and have them record it. And I was just going to sort of learn in the doing of it. But I'm wondering, you know, what you would recommend? Well, the first thing is you and your wife need to get an affidavit in and when the child's born, get one in for the child. Yeah. And if there's -- so what Keaton was saying is that he was able to change his status because they had their birth certificates. And so the system recognized their birth certificates and then recognized their status as state nationals. If our child -- No, bup, bup, bup, bup. Connor. Connor. Connor. There's no such thing as a state national. There's a national. There's a U.S. national. But there's no state national. Okay. Okay. Okay. So get that one off of the slate, okay? Wipe it off. Get the eraser. All right. Done. Man. The U.S. national is the terminology. Or national. The reality is to. Correct. Or you could even call yourself a state citizen, but that's not in any of the law stuff now. They phase that out when they hit it over national. That's their term. Would they got to recognize it? Use it. Paul, have you had a comment? Yeah. I've got a to-do list for him. First of all, you had a family Bible. Did you record your marriage? Your vows? Yeah. Not necessarily marriage, but your vows in the Bible? Okay. Good. Very good. And now what you do is you and the wife submit affidavits immediately. And thanks to the IRS, we know that when it's put in the mail, it's considered received. So you become a declared national the moment that drops in the mail carrier's basket. Okay. Right. You can get that done right away. You can do a simple declaration. Certified mail. That's how I've interacted with the system. That might might as well. Yeah. I would. And also you can do it just a declaration. But an affidavit is just slightly higher because of the nature of what it is. So if you get them notarized, that'd be great. Or you can use two witnesses that suffices for a notary. Okay. I never knew that and that makes sense because why would a notary be elevated to a status beyond. Well, all they're doing is just know all a notary's job is is to get a piece of identification that shows is the person that relates to the document they're signing and make sure that that that's that person signing. That's their only job. They're not lawyers, they don't have any right to make any kind of legal determination on your document. None of that kind of stuff. They're simply there to witness the signatures of the correct person. Right. Roger, let me explain something to him also. Jesse. Hi. Make sure you have the secondary evidence if you're going to apply for a passport or identification. In other words, you need to get a DS10 somebody that knows the show beforehand or so on. Be born. It could be the grandmother. It could be some causing your uncle. Get a chiropractor or two different. Witness with a templar in the top saying they are been doing or seeing your wife or something before the show was born and the day that was born. And make sure you get the vital statistics. You send it and they're going to say no record found a birth certificate. You have to have all those things close the Bible that you can look it up secondary evidence on the on the passport status. And if you don't have all those things, they'll keep on saying no and they'll keep on requesting for more. And they will not tell you exactly what you need. But you need to send all those things. And vital statistics is measurements of weight and height. You send and what it does in your local county or your state, you send and you say and you put the name of the child and they will research if there's a birth certificate. And then they'll send you back sort of the same type of paper of a birth certificate saying that no record was found. So you need that because they will not accept anything if you don't send them. Listen, Connor, the birth certificate is no kind of nexus. It is no nexus to attaching good. There's no attachment to the system via the birth certificate. Here's the reason they use it. That's more of this Patriot mythology. The condition is when you're born. The birth certificate represents that birth and that event. It does not create you being a slave. Simply being born in this system does that. The birth certificate, however, the importance of it to them is it's got a secondary usage and it's a commercial document called the warehouse receipt. Okay, and it's the warehouse receipt. Let's say it's a very unusual little document. You can go look it up and read about it. It's been used in commerce for God knows how long and the paper represents the good. In fact, the paper actually takes on the qualities of the good and the good takes on a shadowy existence. They take that then as representing that they've got a property right on you from birth and they attach it to the bonds. It isn't bond, the blue word of bondage. They're using the birth certificate as collateral for the bonds. That's what your income tax goes to pay are the bondholders only. That's the only function that's got. That's why I say it's not a big deal. Get that affidavit in and it totally cuts that away. I mean, they may still use it. I don't know if you can stop them from doing that. The child's no longer a serf. You've freed the child from being in servitude even though they may use it that way. Does that make sense to you? Yes. Roger. Daniel, thank you. Ollie. Roger. Yes, sir. Go ahead, Samuel. Yeah, I would feel a little uncomfortable personally recording flesh and blood at the county. I think an affidavit of the birth supported by the baptismal record as a Christian in the paper of record would seem a little bit, I don't know, better to me. I don't know what you think. We're throwing an awful lot at Conner here. I don't want to get him confused. I'm trying to get him confused and straightened out. I'm going to see that. Hold on. Merk has got something to add. I just wanted to say thank you to Jesse for sharing that information about the passport because it's very helpful. I'm going to share it on the National Studies Freedom Telegram and save it for everybody to look into. Secondary. You see, if you don't have a birth certificate, they've actually got a form with the passport office that you can fill out that kind of suffices for that. I believe I don't remember the number of it. Yes. Yes, Senator. Okay. Yes, Senator. So, excuse me. So, Conner, listen, I got to go. On Tuesdays, I got to lunch with these guys and girls. But you've got your feet wet today, okay? Do you come back and join us regularly during our showtime or do you have to work? I'm very busy, but very flexible, so I can be here. Okay. I think, like you said, the more you hear it, the easier it is to articulate it yourself. You can't hear this stuff too much. What you're trying to do is make the information part of you. But if you can join us, you got questions or whatever. I didn't know if you made a special occasion today, like Leland did to join us or whatever. But we're here six days a week, man. And if you can't get to the show, we got the replays posted every day, okay? And six and a half years or more of archives. So, so there's plenty for you to belly up to the bar on here, okay? Perfect. One more quick comment. Okay. Yes. Connor, Connor, whoever, whoever you have, assisting or witnessing the birth. Anybody that is even remotely connected to it has to agree beforehand that they are not permitted to act in the act as an informant and register the birth. That is not your wish, you have to make sure you have their agreement beforehand that they are not allowed to do that because some midwives, even some duelists. Yeah, they will. Yeah. They will do it. Unless you get their agreement beforehand. Yeah. Yeah. This may be here. You know, we, well, due dates are sort of a made up thing, but you know, she's getting very close and we haven't done any scans or anything. So she's measuring, you know, quite, quite full term. And my, my mom might be out here right after the birth or during the birth, but she won't be in her home with us. So it'll just be us. But my mom saw her, you know, a couple months ago, so she can be that person to be the third witness of free birth and then baby came out. Okay. All right. All right. Well, listen, you know, where you can get accurate, reliable help now and answers. Okay. So let's get you guys. There's a sample affidavit on the website. It's very good. You literally can get out of this system. This is from the state department with this sentence. I, Connor, do solemnly swear my intent to be a national and not a citizen of the United States. Literally, you can send that to the secretary of state and you're out of the system. Perfect. I love it. God bless you. I really appreciate everything you've been doing and look forward to where this goes. Well, we've been doing it. So we reach people like you. Yeah. And then we can all reach other people. So, and these people stay on here for hours and talk about all this stuff. All right. Yeah. I mean, literally you can probably tap into this thing at two o'clock in the morning. There'll be somebody there. Okay. So, maybe so you always got a way to get to us and we're happy to meet you. What's your wife's name, Connor? Wendy Hillagas. Wendy? Lindsay. Lindsay. All right. We'll tell when. Okay. We'll tell Lindsay the cavalry's arrived and we'll get everything straightened out for you. Okay. We'll do. And the person that you're looking for for information on on marriage without marriage. That would be Joe and he's in Oklahoma. So. Okay. So we can deal with that another day. You'll be. Unless anybody's got anything for me. I'm going to head off into the high noon. Have a good lunch, sir. Okay. Thank you. Well, they're sketch ring in my dinner bill. So I will see all tomorrow and we'll have more exciting, hopefully new students and good information to discuss. So we'll see you then. Have a good day. Roger. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. I'll see you all soon. Nice. Roger. And that's it for the radio ranch with Roger sales on radio.globalvoiceradio.net and Eurofolkradio.com. We're also one on 106.9 w b o u f m in Chicago and home network.tv's h n four freedom nation.tv. Goliath TV and stream life that tube. We're here Monday through Saturday, 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. Eastern time, if not a little longer. Like today. And we just welcome everybody. If you want to join us on the show with questions or comments, you can find the links for free conference call and zoom on the matrix docs.com that is the matrix docs.com. And well, let's see what else that's that's about it. Check out the new student section up there and get you freedom on get your national status declared and go on with life. As it were. I'm Paul from Global Voice Network. I am out of here. Thank you so much for joining us. We'll see you right back here tomorrow. 11 a.m. Eastern with the radio ranch. With Roger sales. This is the freedom worldwide. 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