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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles
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It is the, well, I guess that's it, pretty much, and we have a number of different platforms that participate with us, a couple that really just participate with us this day and one other day or so, and the keeper of those is one Paul Beener, and so we certainly want to give them proper recognition, and so if you indulge us, Paul. I certainly can, so I'm going to be clicking on a couple of buttons while I'm doing this. We're on radiosoapbox.com and I want to mention that because Thursdays and Fridays were on radio soapbox for the first hour, and yesterday I had a mic button that wasn't buttoned and I didn't make that mention, so that was a problem yesterday, but it's fixed now. We're also on WBOUFM Chicago 106.9 FM. We're on Eurofolkradio.com, thanks to Pastor Eli James. You see Eurofolk radio, it's just got great programs, everybody should check it out. Global Voice Radio Network, the links to Eurofolk and Global Voice are on dmatrixdocs.com or nationals only.com either website gets you to the same place, it's like two doors on the same house. WDRN Productions brings us homenetwork.tv on channel hn5 and freedomnation.tv on their main feed, I believe, then go livetv and streamlife.tube. Now I've gotten all my buttons taken care of, I made all my announcements. I can go back to bed. Okay, well don't do that just yet because you never know what might come around the corner. Brent, I'm sorry last Friday you had something to do and got out of here pretty quickly and in the wings waiting disguised was Mr. Paul English, so we had about another hour with Paul afterwards and he's come to a situation where I think he said his Fridays are a little more easy, easier now and so that's what gave him the opportunity to check in and I of course always enjoy talking with Paul, I know you do too. So we invited him to come back at any time, maybe we'll see him pop in who knows and otherwise how are you doing Brent, do you have a nice fourth? I stayed by myself on the fourth and I wrote a poem, Roger. Really? Yeah, racist poem. Well, I got to thinking, I don't remember how it happened, oh well, I do it a little bit but on the fourth I wrote a poem about the fourth of July and I didn't let you mention it, I'm going to read it here, let me find it. Good, good. We'd like you to hear it. We're fun, now this is, oh here it is, it's called, it was the fourth of July, it was the fourth of July, it was the fourth of July and the plant was done, the corn was knee-high, with New Orleans molasses were run, the doons in town were the war veterans affair and we knew that by now our kith and kin were all there, fireworks and frolic, kitchen horseshoes and woo, but now evening betited with this damp, cool do, to have gone to town would have been grand to plenty, but how would we get there, with no car and no money? To see the fireworks in full-blown display was the highlight of this July's fourth day, the final finale, like the Fort McHenry fray, lit up old glory, but we saw no way. Then from off yonder came a pup and a wiz, a cracklin and zingin and fizzle that fizzed, or the north fork bottom these sounds otherwise faint with eerie force came like what is but which ain't. The summer eve with its heavy damp air was thick in the bottoms and lay trapped way down there, these sounds redounded, skipping long top of that fog, drowning out the bullfrogs, the hogs and the dogs, even mile off the sounds were surreal, like a battle way off yonder with a thunder like peel, come on yelled Davey with a whoop and a shout as he took for the corn crib runnin barefoot flat out, me behind him, my brother, hot on his heels, high tailin for the orchard from cross the field, like a squirrel he leapt onto the corn crib, me on his tail and my overall bibs, like coons be entried, we scrambled on up to the tin roof we reached then over its cusp, crossing the tin to the hiker cap ascended, then looked across the treetops to what Dave had intended, we saw clean to town as the crow flies, or the bottoms and prairies where the corn sprouted fields lie, the war veterans fireworks were filling the sky, like bombs bursting in air, to my boy's mind's eye, some were old veterans of wars long ago won, like the Spanish American and World War One, their fireworks hoisted our American story, how folks settled here in times good, bad, even gory, hacking paths across the wilderness, will all wrestling with fear, going ahead in spite with bible held near, bust and sod while husbanding, wives and the land, men stomped down the snakes, facing God's plan, from such men a Christian country arose, unofficial yet real, has been our bulwark against foes, never before in the history of man has such an engine of wealth arisen from land, so going ahead with God's gumption driving behind we recall their deeds fueled by zeal sublime and ask ourselves as we read these rhymes, what can I do in these perilous times, just one thing need be kept in mind, keep seeking God's will, and you will find, so now it's for us to seize the day, to lead or follow or get out of the way, down the snakes, Lord let us not stray, to be warned your land, we now enter the fray, wielding your lands law and your books only way, and by it seize your land by your hand in your day, that was the twas the Fourth of July, something that happened to me when I was a boy, and it came into mind, of course, always after that, I did get sort of go to town when they had the fireworks when I got older, but after that we watched them on top of the corn crib, so yeah, go ahead Roger, I liked your poem very much, Brent. Yeah, that's a nice story. Well, we had a little get together here, but what I was thinking of why you were reading that was where I'm from, Panama City on the beach down there on the Gulf, and that's the biggest holiday of the year down there, there was over, I guarantee you there's over a million people on the beach out there, now that's about a 90 mile strip, okay, but they're in Panama City down in the eastern part of it, there's still just a bunch of people, and the way the coastline curves, you can get out there and all these different condominiums and different places that are on the beach have their own fireworks, so they'll have like maybe the city Panama City Beach will have some sponsor, but then all these other places do too, and the curvature of the coast and the land there, it kind of curves up to the northwest and then levels out over to Pensacola, and you can see all those fireworks for 20, 20 miles or more, all along there, and as the curve, the curve of the land is that the ones you're seeing in the distant are over the water, so you get a reflection off the water too, and it's pretty spectacular actually. Well, and that's true in a lot of places in the country, in different ways geographically, because of what you said, and I've driven across places in the Midwest where it's flatter than a flitter on 4th of July evening, and about every 5 degrees on the 360 degree look around you, you can see fireworks coming from all the little villages and towns, I mean everywhere from the Texas Panhandle going up through Kansas and where it's flat, and you can see that because every little village, town, and city in the country shoots off fireworks. I've used to, I don't know what they do now, I'm as may still be. They might not have the budget to anymore this year. Yeah, well, like I said, where I was from, I don't know who pays for it, but it was the VFW when I was growing up that paid for the fireworks and put on the show, it wasn't the city or the county or the state and any government entity, and as long as they had handled it, it was always a good job, and a good job, I mean they put on quite a show, you know, and we wanted to see it, and that's been going on for, I know as far back as my grandparents have told me when they were young, they were shooting off fireworks like that. I do have stories, of course, too, that are tragic about fireworks. I knew a fell at home boy that had an M80 and it went off in his hand and blew off the first digit, well, the first joint of his ring finger, and then of course you always got the boys in school that like to take the M80s or the, or the, or what we call cherry bombs, you remember those? And I was down in the basement when I was in high school, well, I call it the basement, it was an old building built back in the 1890s, and when they built it, they had a lot of money, so it was very well built, and they had stone walls. I'm not talking about blocks or, I'm talking about solid slabs of a polished stone walls in the men's room, in the boy, we call it the boys room, down in the lower level. And they even had, in the gymnasium, Roger, they had solid stone, kind of a marble material, and the stalls for the commodes, that's how much money they spent on this, and the reason they had all that money has caused the largest above ground oil reserve in the world was in that school district. Oh my goodness. Little, yeah, and it was called Ohio Oil Company and later it became Marathon Oil Company. They had 250 of those giant tanks, giant above ground tanks in a cluster, yeah, and the town they were going to build it next to, a little tiny town of about 1,200 people, they were building it right across the North Fork bottom from the town, and they said, "We don't want that thing near our town," because one of those things go up, and it was true, sometimes those things would, one of them would go up in flames, and so Ohio Oil, later it would be called Marathon, said, "That's fine with us, but you can't stop us so Casey, the other place, said we'll take it," and they got all those tanks in that oil district and could tax them, see, and that's how they had the money, and I'm just a little tiny town where I went to high school, but they had a state of the art, everything, that stuff was built back in the 1920s, the gymnasium and all, but down there in the basement they had a big wall between the commodes and the big sink, they had a big round sink, and it was all made out of marble, and you'd step on a little thing down underneath of it, and you'd own the water run out all around, all the way around, it was that kind of a sink you've probably seen them, and I was down there one time getting ready to go to the first class of the day, and Billy McBride was down there, and the boys that go back beyond that repetition smoked cigarettes, that's the way that worked, and smoking in the boys' room, as they say, and so Billy McBride back there, I was down there getting ready to go, and he was finishing the cigarette, I don't think Billy smokes now, but he did then, and you know how that is with young fellas, so he was down there with a cherry bomb, and I saw him, I said, "What are you doing, Billy?" and he said, "You don't say nothing about this, you understand? I said nothing about what?" and he had a cherry bomb in his hand, and he laid it down under the deep sink and he stuck the fuse into the end of the cigarette, so that when a cigarette burned down it would light the fuse on the cherry bomb, and go off, and of course the idea was to create a ruckus, I think it was near 4th of July, because that's when everybody had cherry bombs, and in the '80s I don't know that, probably in most places it's not legal to have those anymore, I love that, yeah, souped up firecrackers, and they were dangerous, and I mean a firecracker go off in your hand, it'll make your ears ring for a long time, and it'll burn your finger, but it probably won't blow your, well it won't blow your finger off, but these in the '80s were as big, oh they were bigger around in your thumb, and they would, you could throw them in the water of the cherry bombs too, and the fuses would burn under water, you'd throw them in the creek, it would blow up, you know, well anyhow I was setting in class right above that room when it went off, didn't hurt anything, you know, but it sure did make a noise, it rattled the winders, I remember that, oh yeah, of course, and then they had to clean the building out and find out what the problem was, and everybody was panicked, of course, to this day, I mean I used to, I'll say the story now, but it's funny now what happened, but back then I didn't say anything. Anyway, that's 4th of July, that's the way it goes, but do people stop to consider, why do we do fireworks on the 4th of July, you know, over in the old country they have what they call Guy Fox Day, correct, Guy Fox, and they have fireworks, and that's all about to happen, back in the 1600s, by the way, two fellas that got hung over that were Robert and Robert and Thomas Winters, and I've looked to see if they're any kin to me, but I don't think they were, but what they did was they, Guy Fox and these two other fellas and some others that got hung also, they did more than hung them, they drew them a quarter of them, to talk about that, just too much to talk about mixed company, but they decided after King James I, King James, he's the one of King James Bible fame, after he'd been King up in Scotland for 37 years, and they said they wanted to be King of the whole island, so okay, so he heads down south, and some people didn't like that, and so they said we're gonna, and a lot of people today don't like him, for a lot of reasons, whereas one of the reasons is he was a tyrant, divine right of Kings was his doctrine, well he came down and they made him King of England, and they said we're gonna blow that Scottish King back to Scotland, and we're gonna do it with a gunpowder, they didn't have dynamite in those days, TNT had not been discovered, so they put, I was over 38 barrels, or kegs, not barrels, kegs of, they rented a room that allowed them to tunnel under the building where Parliament met, and they put over 30 kegs of gunpowder under there, well the word got out and somehow the folks in charge went into this room, they tunneled in, they got in there, and they found Guy Fawkes, his name was Guy Fawkes, F-A-U-L-K, something you can look him up, he was sitting on all those kegs with a cigar in his mouth, and a, and a fuse on one of those kegs, and getting ready to light it, it was that close, yeah, they were gonna blow Parliament the King and the whole kaboodle back to Scotland, they said, well they have fireworks, but our fireworks represent something different from that, they do it just to celebrate the day when Guy Fawkes got caught, you know, remember, remember the, is it the 5th of November, 5th of November, I remember somebody saying that, I've even said that, why did I say that? Well there was a movie made off of it called V for Vendetta, that was all, all the revolving round Guy Fawkes saying that, oh I see, I see, I remember, yeah, so you're well aware of it, know about it, of course, I don't know a lot about it except I've just read the books, I've never been there, never observed it, but we do fireworks here when there's something to celebrate, we do that, but the thing that reminds me of most Roger for what it's worth is the, the siege or the, the bombardment I should say of Fort McHenry, Fort McHenry and, of course, Francis Scott Key had gone aboard the flagship of the British fleet to try to negotiate the release of some American prisoners in Francis Scott Key, I believe was a medical doctor, if I'm not, no, no, no, he's a lawyer, he's a lawyer, and the government had given him commission to negotiate the release of the prisoners, well he was there in the evening and then the British said, now Mr. Key, we're not going to let you go back ashore because you've seen what we have here, and we don't want you to tell your countrymen, the Americans, what we're getting ready to do, because it was obvious they were getting ready to bombard that fort and what they had, this new fangled invention that a fella in England had invented in Britain, I should say, I don't know if he's in English, I'd be careful for our British prisoners, you know, they get, some people get real upset, you say, well, British differentiate between the Scots and the whales and the coronation and all that, well they were, as fella's name was Grieves, or Grieves, G-R-E-E-V, I believe, something like that, and he invented this thing that we use on the 4th of July yet today, and I've seen them, I've had them, I've used them, I've shot them off, and they're called bottle rockets, well he's one inventor does, but the bottle rocket in, yeah, the, and this thing he invented looked just like a bottle rocket only, it was about six, eight inches across, in diameter, it was a pretty big thing, it had a warhead on it, and it had a rocket, and you lit the, they put it in a bottle, so to speak, on the, on the gun whale of the warships, it was at an angle, and this thing was adjustable, and they put this long broom handle thing down in this pipe or sleeve, and then they adjusted it to the right angles, and they had the trigonometry course to figure out where it would go, and then they lit the fuse just like you would a bottle rocket, and that thing went wish up in the air, and then it was a, what we call a lob weapon, it was to be long, a bottle rocket, like, it goes up, and then it would come down, and they had a, a tear strip on it, if I remember right, and you could tear that strip in us to a certain degree, and it would govern what time it would explode, and the idea of the, of the grieve rocket was to explode above the ground in such a way that it would be a personnel damage, or it would damage men, and they had to take cover, it would, you know, you shoot it off and lob it off like arrows, but this, this is a rocket, lob it off into an army, and it would go off above the ground, and, and, and capacitate a lot of troopers, well that's what they were trying to do, and they had thousands and thousands of these things, and it was terrifying, because used to be just cannonballs, which really didn't ever did much anything, except when the cannon went off, it made a lot of noise, it scared people, but if a cannonball didn't, the only thing, it damaged what it hit directly, and you fired at troops, you could do the same thing with a rifle or a musket, you know, if, if I fire a cannon, of course, again, cannons were as much for inculcating fear as they were for doing damage, unless they were aimed at buildings and things, of course, well, this was kind of a mortar like weapon, but it would go up there, and it was, these things were exploding over Fort McHenry, there at Baltimore, Fort McHenry was put there to defend Baltimore, and they were exploding over Fort McHenry, and when they'd explode during the night, and Francis Scott Key, they wouldn't let him go ashore, so he was standing and watching the bombardment of his own people, you know, and he, he noticed that he was looking to see if they'd hauled the flag down yet, because they were pouring, I mean, it was like Okinawa, you know, the gap yet today called Okinawa, that typhoon of steel and lead, never before in history, a man had more steel and lead been put in the air at one time at Okinawa, the largest battle of World War II. Well, that's the way it was there by analogy, the whole British fleet, the most powerful Navy in the world, were throwing this new weapon at this one fort and all the ships were doing it, and they thought they could bring them to their knees. Well, of course, this isn't a war, this isn't our war for separation from Britain, but the war of 1812, when the war of 1812 was a continuation of the war of 1775, moving forward to 1781, it really never stopped, and the Brits weren't about to give up their most priceless gem, and that's us. The United States, they saw the possibilities, they just couldn't stand it, and they were looking for an opportunity to take us back, and that's what the war of 1812 was all about. Well, the Francis Scott Key was looking when those bombs went off to see if the flag had been hauled down, and every time one of those rockets went off at the right angle, he could see, oh, glory is still waving. And he wrote those wonderful, wonderful words of that wonderful, wonderful song that is now our national anthem, most say can you see by the dawn's early light, was so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming, and he talks about, where is the foe who so haltingly swore that the battles, the havoc of war, and the battles confusion at home in a country would leave us no more, their blood has washed out their foul foot steps confusion or perfusion. No refuge can save the hireling and slave from a terror of night, or the gloom of the grave. Yes, that star spangled banner yet waves, or the land of the free and the home of the brave. Nice words, are they true? Well, that's what we need to be asking ourselves, Roger, is this the land of the free and the home of the brave? Is it the home of the brave when men say, no, I want my daughters and my wives and my nieces to go catch bullets of shrapnel for me? That's what we're doing. Is that brave? No, that's not brave. That's cowardice. Cravenness. And then add to that, add into that, what discernment do we have? You know, the mark of a free man, Roger, there's really only one mark of a free man, and that is that he has the jurisdiction to make choices within his sphere of jurisdiction. The jurisdiction to make choices within his sphere of jurisdiction. What's your sphere of jurisdiction? Well, ladies, you have a sphere of jurisdiction with your husband. The Bible says you have jurisdiction over his body. And don't you ever forget it, by the way. And if you ain't willing to fight for it tooth and nail, then you don't deserve to have it. Men, you have jurisdiction by sea mercy over your woman's body. And that means that if you're not willing to fight tooth and nail and put your life down for it, then you don't deserve it. And if you're willing to send your daughters and your nieces and your wives off to die in battle, you don't deserve it, by the way. And you have a whole lot of other jurisdiction. Are you protecting it? The land of the free and the home of the brave men that are free have jurisdiction to make discerning decisions, lawful, yes, but to certain decisions within their jurisdiction. And we have slowly but surely, in America, given it up. Well, I'm just asking the question, and you got to ask the right question, even get a fair shot at the right answer. Of course, you can, Roger, you interrupt. Well, it evolved into the land of the fee in the home of the slave. Roger, you got away with words. Oh, by the way, just to remind everybody, Roger brought it up. I want to say it again. Roger is the only one that has jurisdiction to interrupt me any time he wants. Nobody else. That's the truth. And I like to thank you. He'll let me do it too. But but we're the hosts here. So yeah, we have that jurisdiction and we start talking about what else got to be quite yesterday. We celebrated by having a little get together of gringos. And of course, a number of them are married Ecuadorians. And wasn't as big as last year. Last year, we had a big chili cook off that was included in this. And of course, now we got some some Canucks down here, too. And and their little day was July the 1st. So a number of them came. We combined the celebration. It was nice. It's at a nice hotel to a friend of ours, one of our American buddies leases and then has rooms right out by the airport and it's a lovely, lovely ground. And then Walt, I don't know if you've heard me talk about my friend Walt down here. Brent is a well, he's a cracker Jack trumpet player. He's a world famous and he was an ambassador of jazz for the State Department and did a whole worldwide tour on on Louis Armstrong. And he's he also writes charts and stuff, you know, and he did America's got talent and dancing with the stars. He charted all those songs for a couple of years. Very talented guy. Okay. And we become good friends with our music backgrounds that are together. So he took his trumpet out there. And then another one of our friends read the declaration of independence to the small, assembled crowd who didn't seem as interested as they should have been. But then Walt played a bunch of songs, all the military songs and, and you know, America the beautiful and Star Spangled Banner and all that. So yeah, we had a little bit of that yesterday down here. Far, far away. Wow. And I think people, Roger, I didn't know that. And I think though, I've heard people all over the world are aware of our 4th of July in a way that countries aren't aware of others. And they that we used to say that that at the beginning, back on April 18th of 75, the shop that was fired around the world. You remember that, Roger, listen, children, did you learn that next school? Did you hear it? Yeah, and you shall hear. I say this for those that didn't you shall hear of the midnight ride of Paul Revere. On 18th April in 75, hardly a man was now alive, who remembers that famous day and year. And then he talks about standing out across from the Old North Church. He turned and tightened his saddle girth and stamped the earth. And then he, of course, leapt to the saddle and away rode and he, it was two by the village clock when he came to the bridge at Concord Town, he could hear the bleating of the flock, the Twitter of the birds up in the trees. And he felt the breath of the morning breeze as it moved across the field, still brown, winter in New England, still a little bit. There was one in that village who was safe asleep in bed who at that bridge would be the first to fall. Who that day would be lying dead, pierced by a British musket ball? You know the rest in the books you have read, how the British regulars fired and fled, how the farmers gave them ball for ball from behind every fence and farmyard wall. Chasing the red coats down through the land, the fence across the fields to emerge again over this field at the turn of that road causing only to fire and reload. And that's the way it ends. But there's a lot of, there's a lot of lore about the beginning of our country. And just to make one more point, Roger, we're the, there are only about five major common law countries in the world. And even in saying all of this, and saying all of this because we had trouble with the, well, I learned in school, we used to call it the mother country. That's the way the teacher said it to us. With all of that, it was an in-house squabble, but it was a brutal one. It's a brutal one. And we're the only one of the five former colony, or the four former colonies of major countries, the four former colonies of England, which became Britain. We're the only one that's independent of her. And we're the only common law country in the world that are a country because we insisted upon it. And we decided the question on fields of battle. No other New Zealand, Canada, Australia, we love them all. And we're kin in a lot of ways, of course, but there's a difference between all of us in different ways. And one of the grand differences is we wanted it so badly we were willing to die and kill for it. And so we got it. And we're thankful though, as I say, we're being broadcast in Britain and Europe. And I say publicly, I say it now. I'm thankful for my heritage. We are a common law country. And if we weren't a common law country, we would not even have a shot at freedom. And we owe that not to our forebearers on the other side of the pond, as much as to the province of God, who did something on that island called Britain that had not been done in the world anywhere and except here. And but it happened there in a way that it didn't happen anywhere else in Europe. And that is the Bible became front and center. You know, all the countries of Europe that experienced the Reformation had a person, a man that was the ostensible leader somehow. But in England, that didn't happen that way. The leader, the leader of the Reformation in England was the translation of the Bible and English. That was it. And you can point to a lot of personalities that were involved involved in many different ways. But starting back with John Wickliffe, the Morningstar of the Reformation, the flower of Oxford scholarship, who was the first man to translate the Bible in English. He didn't have their Bible in the original tongues. The manuscripts hadn't got got to Europe yet at all. But he did have the Latin Vulgate and he he did something nobody else had done it. This was arguably the most educated, brilliant man in the world. John Wickliffe, he still called the flower of Oxford scholarship. But translation like that had never been done had been well and been done, but not for centuries. Jerome did it about 400 AD. He translated the Bible from the original tongues into Latin. But the arts had been forgotten, so he took the Latin Vulgate. He just, he just went word for word and translated, here's an English word for this word, here's an English word for this word, here's an English word for this word. And people when they read Wickliffe's translation into old and middle mercy and they called it middle English, people that know Latin say this is nothing but a Latin Bible. In other words, if you try to read it as a reader of English, you got to scramble the words back to where they make sense because to an English speaking reader, because the Hebrew of the older Testament and the Greek of the newer Testament, the Hebrew always put well almost always puts the verb at the beginning of the sentence, no matter what or the beginning of the thought and the Greek, they'll scramble the words any way they want. They don't even, they just do anything them on. And the endings of the words dictate where it goes into the sentence in order for us speakers of English. It's a highly inflected tongue, but Wickliffe did that, so he just, he was opening up a whole new skill that had been forgotten utterly for centuries. And then William Tyndale came along in the 1500s and, and he, by that time, the manuscripts of the older Testament and the newer Testament had arrived and they were being taught in the schools. And so he translated from the original tongues in English. And then an unknown number of translators occurred. And of course, the Geneva Bible took the ascendancy and overtook the island. And that's why coming back to the King James, the King James Bible was translated to overcome the influence of the Geneva Bible, translated by English, British, British, not English, British, from Scotland and England, refugees in the city of Geneva that went there to keep them getting their heads chopped off. Well, anyway, that all that history is the providence of God. America wouldn't be here without the law of the land. Our common law comes in two volumes, the laws of nature, unwritten in the nature of creation. We call it our common law due process. That's what it is. It's a process. And then the laws of nature is God. That's the phrase that men use in that day for the Bible. I say that on the authority of William Blackstone and his commentaries on the laws of England. So yeah, I appreciate it all. I've had fights with my family and my brothers. Isn't it sensible? The Bible says that the Bible says that a brother is born for adversity. And those people, my hell, have brothers fight. In our own country, we did that. So I don't hold against the people in Britain. I count them to be a great asset to us and their kinfolk to us, not only by blood, as Tom Jefferson said, "Consanquinity." That's the word he uses in the declaration of '76. But no matter who you are in America, they're your cultural kin. We are a common law country and everything we do here. No, it didn't come from the Greeks. No, it came from the Anglos, the Saxons, the Danes, and the Celtic people that lived on that island. And it was through them, not to credit them as much, through them the providence of God and the Bible in ways that are not talked about much and ought to be. I just told a fellow Roger, and I ordered the books for him. And I advocate this book to every listener out there. This book, well, actually, it was two volumes. It was in two volumes, was the bestseller on the island of Britain for years. It came out in the year 1853, if my memory served me correct, written by a French, French-speaking Swiss man. You know, the west end of Switzerland, they speak French. On the other end, they speak German over toward Austria. But he was a French Swiss man, and he wrote, this is not a Brit, but he wrote a book about the history of Christianity on that island. And you can say, I think it's called the history of the Reformation in England, but it's not about England, it's about the whole island, it has to be, it always is. As much as they try to draw distinctions, the whole island came together, and that's why America is here, because the whole island produced it. You know, there were many men from many, well, there were many men from Scotland that were, well, signers of the Declaration of 76 and the Constitution of the United States, of course, from England too. But it all came down to one thing, the laws of nature and the laws of nature is God. And if you're not a student of those laws, those two volumes, the first one unwritten, do process our common law, and the second one written the Bible, you, my friend, are part of the problem, you're not part of the solution. You are who needs to be overcome in America so that we can have a clear shot at freedom as we move forward. Is it going to happen? Well, Roger, we just had the Chevron decision. Well, it's good because our common law tradition is, and that's what the Chevron decision is about. It's about our health law tradition in this sense. It's about separation of powers. If there's a doctrine of our common law that's fundamental, it's separation of powers, is if it's fundamental to the Bible, our common law doctrine of separation of powers did not arise out of the Bible. But it did come from the same source as the Bible. Our common law tradition did not arise out of the Bible. No, it came from the same source as the Bible and our common law tradition, the laws of nature unwritten, undergirds the Bible and the Bible undergirds our common law tradition. And the Bible speaks clearly about both traditions, most pronouncing Psalms, Psalm 19, what a Psalm. In the first half of that Psalms about our common law tradition, the second half is about our Bibles. And in cases of apparent inconsistency or inconsequence between those two, the Bible is the core to last resort period. And that's what the Bible says. And that's what our common law tradition has always said. And by the way, the Chevron decision is acknowledgement of that. Why? Because the Chevron decision acknowledged that those are responsible for maintaining our, oh well, we all are, but in our courts, there was responsible, the Supreme Court of the United States. And they, as the court, as the lawyer said, America, they erred, E-R-R-E-D, they erred. And the Chevron decision was against the Bible. It was against our common law against the Bible. Yes, clearly against the Bible. The Chevron decision, remember everything in the Bible, comes back to the trust settlement of God. And the trust settlement of God is about land as the entrusted property. And the law of the land is about the entrusted property called the land. In the law of the land, that's another word, another phrase for our common law tradition. Not substantive laws are common law tradition. Now, going back to Chevron, why is Chevron a violation of the Bible? Because it violates Chevron, the Chevron decision, the Chevron doctrine, when we call it, violates separation of powers. Why do you say that, Brent? You know, in our common law country, and the only countries in the world that even acknowledge this are common law countries, and there's very few, but the separate, separate branches of government, the legislative, the executive, and the judicial are co-equal, independent of each other. None of those three trumps any of the other two ever, if they don't want it to, if they want to agree, fine. But there's nothing in our law, nothing our Constitution says, our Constitution is a brief common law government, nothing there that would allow the Supreme Court, for example, to be final, the Court of last resort on anything. If the President of the United States does not agree, but the Supreme Court decision, and there's a lot of them, well, all of our presidents have disagreed, and all of our presidents, from my reading and understanding, have ignored and would not enforce what the Supreme Court said at some point. Sometimes they did it overtly and blatantly, sometimes they tried to keep it quiet. But the Supreme Court does not control the presidency of the United States, and the president of the United States does not control the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court does not control the Congress, and the Congress does not control the President or the Supreme Court. I don't care what legislation Congress passes. There's nothing in our law and our tradition that says the courts have to agree, or the president has to enforce what Congress says. You say, "Brent, don't you know that the Supreme Court of the United States is final?" That's not true, no, never been true, never, it wasn't true in England. I mean, the history of England is about men and the courts disagreeing with the king and getting their heads chopped off. You say, "Well, then they couldn't disagree." No, they did, because they knew what the law was. You know, the one man that drafted our Constitution and Decoration, the one man quoted more than any other man, any other man, a feller named Cook. Cook. He was a justice of the common law courts in England, and his name is spelled C-O-K-E. Now the Brits call him Cook, but in America we think things go better with Coke, so we pronounce C-O-C-O. So his name is Lord Coke, and he wrote the premier commentary on Magna Carta, and that's what they quoted. People say, "Oh, they got it from the Greeks and Romans." No, they quoted them to show how things aren't supposed to be, but just as Coke, they quoted a lot. Well, just as Coke almost got his head lopped off on a couple of cases by who? King Jimmy, King James the first of King James Bible. Why? Because Coke said one time he was in a meeting with all the other boys and know what we call the cabinet, you know, and he was in there with King James the first, and King James the first believe that nobody was to question him, divine right of King's law, the city, all that baloney. And I mean, he even had a man hung for stealing a chicken without a trial, as he was, he wasn't even King yet. He was in England traveling south to be coronated, stopped in the village. Of course, he wanted everybody to not only kiss his can, but provide photographers, as we say, you know, he had, he had to make a show of it, so he came into this little village and they had a man there. They were, they were equipping and hollering about, he stole a chicken. King James that you show his power said, bring him over here, and brought him over. He said, I sent him to you to hang, and he ordered everybody there to hang him. That's kind of man he was. People think he's a great man, and he was a great civil law tyrant, yeah. But people were afraid of him. That's why they hung. They knew he was going to be a king within a few days, so they didn't want to buck him, you know. Well, that's kind of man he was, well, so, but a coke, as we say, they say cook in England, he was a common lawyer to the hilt, and, and King James just discussing things, you know, like the, we need a Bible translation, those kind of things. And, and the king, he pronounced setting up there on his high horse, he said, the king protecteth the common law, the king protecteth the common law. Well, I don't know, coke was probably bored by that time, and all he said, what? And he jumped up and said, no, sire, nay, I'm quoting, I'm quoting in old English, nay, sire, the king don't protect the common law, then that's, that's from the wall bash valley. The common law protecteth the king. That's what he said, that's, well, the common law protecteth the king. And all of a sudden the room got silent. And he knew that his head was at risk. He had stepped all down. Yeah. Yeah. He fell down on the floor. He fell down on the floor and saved his own life. But it got worse. He didn't let up. And so the king said, I can't shut this guy up because he said things like that. And Roger, as you know, you see, it's like, that particular, there's the king protecteth the common law, or there's a common law protecteth the king. That spells the whole difference right there. And the answer you give to that question will dictate everything else that happens in government. From that simple truth, and it comes down to is it Lex Rex or Rex Lex, the law protects the king or the king protects the law or the other way around. What is the sovereign here? Men, the king, or is the sovereign the law? And America, we said, well, no, no, and they said that in England, too. Don't get me wrong, but there's always this onslaught and it's here now in America trying to say, no, no, no, men, men get to be sovereign. You can't if you if a police officer, if a federal agent shoots you, he has immunity. But if you shoot him, it's automatic death penalty. That's the law. See the Gordon call Gordon call comes to mind. Well, yeah, yeah, I've had good point, Roger, I want a story that is. And I remember very well, and that's something we talk about some time, maybe, but right now, I wanted to get to Chevron. You kind of have one or two, too. So separation of powers. And Chevron said this. Chevron said, the Supreme Court of the United States Chevron oil company, of course, they're trying to produce soil. And the the courts said, or the, yeah, the Supreme Court said, well, there was a fight over who gets to interpret the statute, the environmentalism statute that Congress passes. What's the answer under the separation of powers doctrine under our Constitution of the United States, which sets forth the doctrine without even saying it, who has absolute authority to interpret Congress's legislation in our common law tradition. And the answer is the courts. And that would include times the jury, of course, and more often than we, well, we should do it more often than we do. Yes, you share the jury in our common law tradition. What's that, Roger? They can rip those things out by the roots. There's, there's only two ways to get rid of regulations. And they're, I forget how many pages of regulations are way over 100,000. Okay. Oh, that's just the IRS code. No, IRS goes over 10,000 over 10,000. Right. But go ahead. Go ahead. No, I was just going to say what they're supposed to do is re and re interpret Congress's legislation to, as the, as quote, because this feeds into the story here, Brent, as experts. And they're supposed to huddle, whittle it down and, and direct it even in a more finite manner, I guess. But the only way you can get rid of them is by either the president ripping them up, like Trump did, because he ripped out tens of thousands of them by the roots. Or you've got to go to court in front of a jury, sometimes I'm sure, and go back to the original intent of the legislation and see how the agency has skewed it out of how it was meant to be. Yeah. And the courts being out of, in our common law tradition, separate, independent, and co-equal. But in the courts, the Supreme Court of the United States, when it puts out a word on a constitutional question, all of the courts, all of the courts in America are bound by an unwritten law to follow that decision. And all the lawyers that argue in the courts will argue, they don't argue legislation in a common law country, they argue previous opinions. We've got to base this opinion we're talking about here on previous opinions. The court, the lawyers and the judges are all officers of the court, therefore, under the common law doctrine, separate and co-equal, they argue what the courts say. The precedence that the higher courts put forward, is that right? Yes, that's right. That's right. That's our common law tradition. But what we, what the courts have allowed to happen, although they know that, they'll know that. But they like the Supreme Court likes everybody to think that their word is final. Now, their word is final in the courts. Yes, that's our common law tradition. But their word is not final, as to the executive branch, the president of the United States and the Congress. And the presidents know that and they're, they're advised on it. This thing about separation of powers spells everything in our common law tradition. But listen to what John Paul Stevens in the Chevron decision said, they said, when a challenge to an agency, construction of a statutory provision. Now that's a lot of fancy legal talk. Let me read that again. When a challenge to an agency construction of a statutory provision, what does that mean? When somebody challenges what the president says about Congress's legislation, statutory provision, fairly conceptualized, this is double speak, just hogwash. And Stevens has said some good things, but he said some really wrong things too. And he said, in that decision, he wrote it, that the, the agency, the president can interpret, no, let me put it this way. I'm trying to think of a clearer way to say it. Stevens, the other justices, Stevens wrote the opinion in Chevron, he said that Congress, here it is, Congress has delegated to the court, I don't know, Congress has delegated to the president. That means all administrative bureaucracies. They have delegated authority to interpret their own to interpret Congress's legislation. Let me say that again, Congress has delegated to the executive branch, the bureaucracies, the authority to interpret Congress's legislation. Now that's just as Stevens said that, oh, Harvard man or whatever it is, all that. He's flat wrong. And he all known better and all of them because they have, and everything they said after that was logical and sensible based upon that, that proviso that, that major premise, but his major premise is wrong. I don't care what Ivy League school he went to, his major premise is that Congress has authority to delegate authority to interpret their legislation, delegate that authority to the executive branch. Let's just come back to fundamentals here, Roger. Congress does not have authority to delegate any interpretation of their legislation to anybody. Let me say that again. Congress does not have authority to delegate interpretation of their legislation to any other branch of government or anybody else. That's our common law tradition. Who has exclusive power to interpret and apply Congress's legislation? Answer the courts. Period. Period. That's separation of powers. We don't want people passing laws and then saying, I choose this person over here to interpret it. Or I want to interpret it myself. No. And that, my friends, is contrary to the Bible itself. And I don't mean in a little way. There are three branches of government that God authorizes for men. And when somebody tried to gather all three of those branches and to a single hand, let's see. You see the double speak and the sneakiness of this. King James I tried to gather all three branches of government into his hands. He wanted to be the promulgator of law. He wanted to be the interpreter of law and he wanted to be the executor of law, an executive. Did I make that word up? I think I just did. I'm good at that. Okay. We'll coin it. Well, my words in my head are clear as well. When they fall down in my mouth and tumble over my teeth, they get all mixed steps mixed up. Well, hold on. While you're cleaning your teeth out, well, it involves a bit of due to Chicago here in Chicago. I'm sorry. Unless you dial in, you're going to miss the last part of this wonderful explanation on this extremely important ruling from Congress. Please go ahead, Paul. Well, let's tell them how they can do it, how they can follow us into the second hour. First of all, if you want to keep track of what Brent Allen Winters is doing, go to common lawyer.com. It's common lawyer.com. Look for him on Patreon. It's soapbox, Saturdays and Sundays. The PSP News channel on Rumble. If you want to follow us in at second hour, and I know you grew, go through rematrixdocs.com or nationalshomely.com. And click on any of the links right there near the top of the page, the eurofolkradio.com global voice radio network. Free conference call or zoom. You can catch the second hour of this important and riveting topic. I'm Paul from Global Voice and Network. Thank you for being here. 106.9 WBOUFM and radio soapbox.com. All right, Brent, before you plunge off, I have heard several people say this about the Chevron decision was, and now I forgot what they said. So that they basically in Chevron gave free total unimpeded wills to the administrative agencies to interpret the legislation because they were considered to be the quote unquote experts. That's exactly right. But to put it better to keep this, I'll put it clear to stress the separation of powers doctrine of our common law of government. What they said was, the Supreme Court said, Congress has authority to delegate authority to the president to interpret his statutes. I mean, to interpret Congress's statutes and our Constitution says, no, but just go to the third article. What does it say? It says there shall be one Supreme Court of the United States. And then, of course, of course, that Congress can appoint courts, but they can't delegate authority to courts to interpret their statutes to the president. No, they have authority. You know, when see this back up here, that our Constitution of the United States establishes three branches of government. That means it establishes Congress directly. It establishes the presidency and it establishes the Supreme Court of the United States. The Supreme Court of the United States is the only court that the Constitution of the United States establishes, which is the same thing as saying the Supreme Court of the United States is the only court that the militiamen of the United States have established, because that's what it says in the preamble, the people of the United States. That's the militiamen, militiamen established one court. And then our Constitution says that Congress can establish other courts under the Supreme Court, as they think is needful. And when they do that, they delegate jurisdiction to the courts, right? Or we think this court should have jurisdiction to do this and we want this court to have jurisdiction to do that. But they cannot delegate jurisdiction to the presidents of the United States to interpret. When they establish a court by legislation under the Supreme Court, they delegate jurisdiction to that court. Again, the Constitution gives no authority to Congress to delegate any authority to interpret any of their statutes to anybody but the courts under the Supreme Court. And the Congress of the United States see has no authority to tell the Supreme Court anything to do. But they do have authority to limit the jurisdiction of the courts they establish under the Supreme Court. He has the federal courts. Yeah. All the federal courts of a man, they can get rid of every one of them by a stroke of the pen, by the way. There is going, there is going to be legislation that Brent, you may even try some of these cases for years on this one. They sold out what's been done since 1984. And it's silly that anybody would even question it. And Stevens, you know, in the wall bash Valley, they'd stay. Well, he ought to be horse whipped for doing that. Well, I'm not supposed to say stuff like that. So I don't. But that's the way people think about it. That's a course, it's figure of speech. But come on boys, you know, you can talk all your fancy logic and talk all how you want government to run and use all this confusing language. But why don't you just go back to the fundamentals and quit acting like buffoons and being scholastics and stick to the common law, fundamental doctrines, and you wouldn't have any trouble and you wouldn't be troubling us. Now on that, Stevens was wrong. The Supreme Court and the rest of the other sick five justices that agreed with him. And our Supreme Court has now said so, go ahead. You know what case this arose from was even more interesting to me. It came from that fisherman case where they were the I don't remember 10 years or so ago, and they're the little old company little mom and pop fish and outfit probably. And they're about to go bankrupt because 10 years or so with some obscure agency passes a rule, a regulation, that they've got to have a supervisor on board on their shipping vessel to make sure they're maintaining all federal fishing regulations. Okay, but here's the hitch. They had to pay for it. Yeah. And the country with the company is going bankrupt because they're paying $700 a day to some joker to sit there and watch and call watchdog on the regulations. That's the one that sprung Chevron. Isn't that interesting? Yeah, so it comes good, Roger, I'm glad you said that. It comes back to separation of powers. That's a doctrine, the Bible, undergirds strongly. And it comes back also to impeding these. But once you violate separation of powers, then government will try to impede the production of raw materials. That's what happens. What is the production of raw materials? That's what God wants us to enjoy from our land. What is the entrusted property of the trust settlement? We had Paul on here a few weeks ago. Yes. I just thought, well, I'll just interview the man. And what it came down to was just a kind across examination. And that's the best way to interview people now on radio. I've been doing it for years. So I try to be kind, of course, because I want the ideas to hear, to delve his mind, not say, "Why don't I want to say?" And one of the things that he said, he said two things that stuck in my mind. Number one, he went to church as a kid and went to son's school and all that, like I did. And like I did. And like I say, I was drugged into Christianity because they drugged me to church two times. Well, but then he said, "Of course, things have changed over there, like they've changed here." And he said, his father told him one time, "Well, Jesus Christ, we're alive today. The Christian churches were crucified. I'm just like the religious fundamentalists did back then." I think he was right. Now, I agree with his dad on that one. And the other thing he said was, he looked at the Bible. Now, this is him talking Paul. And he said, "When he got over, he looked at the Bible, and all of a sudden it dawned on him from the things he had read." He said, "This is a contract." That's what this is. A contract between God and his people. And he said, "Once I saw that, everything made sense that I looked at." In other words, I interpreted, I saw through the lens of this agreement between God and his people. And I said, "Oh, I see now what the Bible is." Okay, that's good. Now, I would take it a step further. And I would say it's a special species of contract called a trust settlement. If you take the course, it's on the website, commonlawyer.com, the course you own contracts. You can see, we talk about it over and over again. What is the definition of a contract? The definition of a contract is this. A contract, and it's the only way you can say it, encompasses all contract law. The contract law is the law of promises. And every contract consists of at least one promise that the law will enforce. Every contract consists of at least one promise, one undertaking to put it into English, that the law will enforce. And the contract, in that way, of course, you have two kinds of contracts. You have banal contracts where the quid pro quo and breach on one side, relieves the other side of fulfilling his end of the contract. That's a contract, but there are those species of law promises that only have one promise. No quid pro quo. Take it or leave it. And the trust, the common law trust falls into that category. The promise of the settler is all there is. You either take it or leave it. And that's God's relationship with us. He sets forth the trust settlement. He says, take it or leave it. I'm not dealing with you. It's in or out. What do you want? I pronounce, choose this day who you will serve and what you're going to do. And the trust settlement is there, and we have entered into it. And in that trust settlement, it's about land. And when it blesses out in the Bible, God gives us land. The land the Lord, your God has given you. And he says, don't, don't pollute it. I want you to enjoy it. That means you have authority over production of raw materials. There are only two kinds. There are the kinds of raw materials you worry out of the, out of the mountains. Those are called metals and other, and other minerals, minerals, a better word. And there are kind of raw materials you, you coax from the soil that's called crops. That's it. And all of our wealth is based upon that. And Chevron was an attempt to destroy that. And here's what happens once you leave the law of God. And once you violate the, the separation of powers doctrine has Chevron, the Chevron doctrine does. What do you get? You get abuses you can't even imagine, for example, Roger. So I'm in Wyoming. Do a lot of traveling. I'm high tailing across Wyoming. I stop, it's late. I got to sleep. I stop in a motel. I get up the next morning, little town, and I'm on the balcony on the second floor. And I'm looking down at a pickup truck that's got the biggest, most substantial brush guard on a pickup truck I've ever seen. I mean, this thing was huge. I mean, it obviously fabricated out the out of the finest steel, a heavy two inch pipes, four inch pipes, and a guy that owned the big pickup truck was out loading stuff is putting his bags in. I'm standing up there looking down. I said to him, I made the comment, that's the most substantial brush guard I've ever seen. He said, they are ideas. He said, it's made for kangaroos. I said, well, I didn't know I said, are there kangaroos out here now? I didn't. I knew there were other big vendors, you know, elk, and all that kind of stuff. He said, well, he said, I had a friend in Australia, and he won, he shipped this to me, because he said, that's what we have over here and down under, because there's so many kangaroos, you know, they're thick as flies and they're vermin. And they're jumping around. Oh, no, I'm, no, I'm pretty sure they're scarce and protected. Well, he said, he said, if you run in one, of course, a wipe out your radiator, and they say, you're in a wolf mountain. And I said, oh, I said, well, what, what do you need a big truck with a big thing like that? Oh, driving around the wilderness. I said, what do you do? You know, I'm, I'm looking for a material for when I'm on a radio or on the internet. I do that a lot, I talk to people. And this over here, I am telling the story. And I tell people, I won't, I won't repeat your name, but I just, I might tell a story about you. Well, I said, what do you do? He said, well, we're on this pipeline being dug out here. Well, I understand pipelines. I've worked on pipelines. I mean, when I was a young man, 19, I walked a pipeline from Mississippi River at Mississippi River. It was a marathon marathon, marathon tank farm, we call them like that big one I talked about while ago at home was a big one, a wood river, Illinois on the Mississippi River, right across, well, north of St. Louis, not very far. And we walked out all the way to Walpole, Connecticut, Ohio. And if you don't know where Walpole, Connecticut is the fellow that claims to be the first man to walk on the moon Neil Armstrong, he grew up in Walpole, Connecticut, Ohio. Well, we were taken to Walpole, Connecticut, and then the neighboring big town was Lima. And that's the headquarters big tank farm there. Okay. Anyway, I'm, I walked this pipeline. I know pipelines. I've been around pipelineers, the guys that dig the trenches and the side boom, boom operators and the men that weld the pipe, that's quite a skilled well pipe. That's a different kind of thing. And then of course, the, the, the those are operators D H and the D six as we used to run. Well, so I asked him, they're digging one across Wyoming. And you know, Wyoming is a big oil producer there. Yes. Yeah. What's that name of that town? Slip me now. But I wouldn't, why wouldn't Montana where the teapot dome scandal came out of? No, I believe Wyoming. Wyoming. Yeah. And the Casper, Casper is the center of the oil production. And it's still big. And I knew a lot of people from Casper growing up because I grew up in oil field and, and it was marathon was big, as I said, and people from Casper be transferred back and forth. You know, so I knew a lot of people there. Well, I was there and I, and I, I've seen them digging this pipeline, putting in a new line, a 22 inch line looked like. And so I said, Oh, I said, what do you do? I thought, well, you know, I can talk shop with a man a little bit maybe. And he said, well, I'm out there to make sure that they don't, they don't destroy any dinosaur bones. I said dinosaur bones. I said, are they finding dinosaur bones? Or who do you work for? He said, well, I work for the EPA, federal EPA. And I said, you mean they got to have you out there, just to dig a pipeline? Oh, I said, they try to dig a pipeline without me out there, the somebody's going to go to jail. I said, well, what exactly do you do? Do you do? I'm being very nice, you know, I don't want to get the information. He said, well, I just have to be on site as they're digging. And I have to tell them how to dig. And I said, do they have to pay for you being there? He said, you you bet. They paid me more. Yeah, yeah. Here we go. And I said, blame, I said, so it drives up the price of oil, because they got a a greater overhead. So that actually just drives up the price oil. I said, oh, not that much. I'm sure. But I said, but yeah, it's just more expensive. They're having to pay for it. I didn't argue with him. And I said, but I'm laughing. I'm saying, so, and how long have you been doing this? He took been a long time years. I said, and I'm thinking, surely he didn't run in any dinosaur, you know, I said, if you had a cush job like that, would you leave it? Yeah. And can you imagine how much he's making? And I knew he hadn't found any dinosaur bones. I said, well, I'm sure you're finding just train loads of dinosaur bones out there, aren't you? And he said, we found some just yesterday, sauropods, sauropods. I said, well, what's a sauropod? He said, well, that's a dinosaur that has not yet been identified as the species. I said, well, what do they look like? He said, they're usually very small, maybe two footed, four footed. But yeah, we just yesterday, I said, well, I'm sure that they were there. I remember saying this. I'm sure that they were then petrified, right? He said, no, he said they were they still had their skin on them, and they still have. Yeah, he said, he's lying through his teeth, Roger. They still had feces in their intestines. Oh, come on. Well, I said, and then I said, well, that kind of blows the theory of evolution, doesn't it? And he said, immediately, when I said that kind of blows the theory of evolution, if they're dinosaurs, and they still got feces in their intestines, he said, evolution is true. Evolution is true. He didn't respond to me. He just wanted to fight at that point. And I just, I just threw my hands down. But here's it. Go fast. Go find it. Go find it. Tyrannosaurus Rex or something. Here's what's fascinating about that encounter. I learned how foundational evolution is to all of the evil empire. He went straight to that right away. I really have nothing. And he had just disproven it by what he had found. He claimed he found. I think he was lying about that too. He just stupid. What he's got going is a cushy job. You're paying for it when you go to the gas pump, and he's not finding any dinosaurs. And if they found, if they find a dinosaur, I'm sure they'd, they'd want to do something with it and say, hey, we as an oil company are interested in, in preserving dinosaur bones too. I know I've been in the mind of business. You find something like that. You want to demonstrate it and show it. So you show, show it, then that way people aren't so anxious for the government to come in and try to, to regulate you. And if the government is regulating oil production, the way they've chosen to do it with this Chevron decision and a production of other raw materials, I'm talking about farming and mining. That's what we're talking about. And everything that is apt to, that everything that appertains there too, farming and mining. And the oil companies, of course, are mining minerals, cold oil. And the rules apply there that apply to the mines in a lot of ways, but we've gone overboard clearly. And it's not helping us. I could tell more stories, Roger, but I'm going to take a breather that you talk or somebody else maybe wants to. Well, there were a number of very important decisions, of course, accumulated by one on Monday about Trump's immunity. Does anybody in the audience want to reach out or have anything to say on what we've covered so far? Any observations, questions, et cetera? You're going to have to give me a minute. I'm resetting a conference room right now. And I have their inbound feed shut off. All right. Well, I'll have them back online in just a moment. All right. Well, when they come back online, if anybody's got their hand up and wants to hit star six, you're welcome to do that. There was another interesting one, and I wish I could remember all the details of these. And I'll be right out front, I can't. But there was a lady having to do with a county and she must have caught them cheating or something, and then they came after her for prosecution. And the case revolved around that and fell in her favor. That was an interesting one. If my facts are right, I think they are. There was there was another. And if it wasn't this Chevron decision, it was another one, but they were going back and in the decision and going back several times to the origin of the country and what the intent was at the founding of the Constitution and the way they handled things back then. It may have been that Chevron on the separation of powers. It may have been another one because there were several that really important Supreme Court cases. And it's just hard to keep up with all the details, you know, just when you're listening to it, not reading it. But very interesting, one of the most interesting sessions of the Supreme Court in many years. Yeah, it's true, Roger. And it comes back in what I noticed, it comes back to fundamentals. And that is the thing that most people, I say this with all conviction, most of humanity cannot see the fundamentals. It's not that they won't, they can't. And that's what the Bible teaches. The Bible says that you cannot even see the kingdom of God unless you're born of the Spirit. That's what Jesus Christ teaches in John chapter three talking to Nicodemus. But again, a highly educated, Harvard kind of lawyer, a member of the court of last resort of Israel, the Sanhedrin. And that's what Stevens was a member of for all of his learning, all of his intricate logic, all of his jaw-breaking words and fancy vocabulary. He's blind. At that point, I have to say, he's blind. And the Bible teaches that most people are not born of the Spirit, most of mankind. And they're blind to the fundamental fundamentals. I think we'll get it straight down in a second, see there? Blind to the fundamentals. I'll add one more to that 15. Blind to the fundamentals. I think they needed one or two more. No, you can't see them. You might be able to see them. You mean? But the Bible says you're not the only God gives eyes to see and ears to hear. And Jesus never spoke to anybody, but them, he had given eyes to see and ears to hear. He said, he'd make a comment. They said, let them to have ears here. I'm not commanding people that don't have ears. And when I talk here, I don't talk. I'm not talking to anybody, but God's people. If you think you're God's people, that's your prerogative to try to determine you've got to do that. I'm talking to you. I'm not talking to folk that aren't Christian people. They can't understand what I'm saying anyway. That's what the Bible and fundamentals of government. Yeah, that's the Bible. That's what I go ahead, Roger. I learned that lesson teaching this program. And it still amazes me to this day. I've come to accept it, you know, of course, and try and understand why and think that through as much as I'm able to. And I always come back to the fact that they don't have the spiritual gene. Now, on the other side of that, there are people that have the spiritual gene that are attracted and see this program, but yet they've never been spiritual or had any kind of Christian input into their life. And I mean, they haven't just once it's happened several times. And the guy is on the coast down here. One of them, Dan, Dan Swains, his name, nice guy from Oklahoma, up around Tulsa. And Dan said, Roger, I got to tell you, I never cracked a book on a Bible my entire life until I cross paths with your information. And now I'm in the Bible every day. And I'm going back and teaching my adult children who I neglected to teach this stuff to when they were young. So it works in reverse. You never know and never know what God's going to do and what he's going to use. You can you talk about the Bible, you talk about the law of God, which is the will of God, just his will, the Bible reveals that that's all of what the Bible is, the will of the sovereign, and our common law tradition is the same thing. When it comes right down to it, we're coming back to the fundamentals. But if you don't have you're not born from above, you see, the new birth trashes everything you were before. It it stuttles it. It's nothing but refuge. It's nothing but human sewage, Paul impulse. He said, I counted all of that. And when you're born above, behold, I'm quoting the Bible, everything is new. You are a new creature. You have a new mind and new heart and you desire, new everything, new eyes, new ears. And you can see the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God is his, I'm talking to Christian folk, if you're out there, the kingdom of God is his spheres of authority, his delegations, all authorities from God, his Romans 13, he delegates it and it either delegates it directly to the individual or delegates it to an individual who delegates to somebody else. When we're talking about the Chevron decision, we're talking about who has authority to delegate what? And just as Stevens for all of his Ivy League learning, all of his vocabulary, all of his intricate logic. Oh, he's got it. He stripped me 17 way from Sunday when it comes to thinking, but he misses the fundamentals. And all the Bible says that over and over Jesus Christ said to the Pharisees, you obscure the law of God by your tradition. You say this, you tithe all this detail, the mint in the cumin, you understand the law, the time and the blood, money and all the logic. But you omit the weightier matters of the law, weightier, yeah, the stuff that governs everything. And most lawyers, by the way, do that too. When I go into court, I can go into court and lawyers and be arguing about some regulation of some administrative bureaucracy of state or federal government. And what do I do? I look at it first, and they should do this too. And lawyers, common lawyers, common lawyers, that's different than a civil lawyer, a common lawyer is different than a law of the city lawyer. A common lawyer, if he's habituated right, he'll go straight to the bottom and say, wait a minute, quo warranto, is there authority? What's going on here? Where does authority come from? God. That's where it comes from. Has it followed the proper channels? Has it been delegated? It's not the proper channel. It's an improper unlawful channel for Congress to delegate authority to the President of the United States to interpret their legislation. That's exactly what Justice Stephen Stevens says that Congress did. That's not even law legally possible. It's contrary to law. It can't happen. And that's what the Chevron decision was based upon. Go back to the fundamentals we've talked about that fella from Green Bay, Wisconsin. His name was he was coach of the Green Bay Packers, Vince Lombardi. Yes. Green World Championship, little tiny town up there on the coast of Lake Michigan and Lombardi. And every year, this is the story. I remember back when those guys were going like gangbusters, and I was in school, and I think, but there was a film I saw. It was like back when they had the reels, you know, Roger in school. There was a film about Vince Lombardi and he was at summer training camp, and he had all the veterans sitting on the ground in front of him. All the rookies that showed up that year, and he had a football in his hand, and he held it up, and he said, "See this gentleman? This is a football." Did anybody ever tell you that? The object of the game is to take this pigskin looking thing here, and you get it over the goal line down there. If you ever lose sight of that, you're going to sacrifice the power of the team. I used to listen to him. Now, I used in a sports analogy, listened to Dick Buckas. He was well known. There was player like him. Never will be one again. His whole body, his soul, his hatred, his humor, his love, his kindness, and his brutality all came out on the football field at once. His whole being, and why when he took a man down, he tried to grind him. After he got him down, he just gave him one more on trying to grind him into the turf, you know, and there wasn't anybody else on his team that way, and he used to get frustrated, so frustrated, because his team always lost, it seemed like. But people went to the game. They'd watched the Chicago Bears lose, but they came to watch Dick Buckas play. Yeah, because he had the audience that might not know, because we have some younger people, I assume. He was a linebacker of great renown for the Chicago Bears. What back in the 60s? 60s, middle linebacker. Yeah, middle linebacker. And he, he just, like they said, he could take, he'd take him down hard. If he could, he'd make him remember when they were hit, when they were tackled, that it was Dick Buckas that tackled him. And it was a Deacon Jones. He was a cornerback. He was a black guy. His name was Deacon Jones. And he said, Buckas won't try to put you in the hospital. Buckas, Buckas will try to put you in the graveyard. Of course, Buckas, he wasn't a mean man. He's really, very kind guy, but he played hard. That was the game. That was the rules of the game. He didn't break the rules. Hard hits aren't breaking real. Anyway, that we need to have that kind of heart, and very few people do. Heart for what's right. Dick, just use Dick Buckas as an analogy. Go ahead, Roger. I wasn't going to say anything, but Paul, Paul was kind of stabbed by some of that. Weren't you, Paul? Yeah, some of that. We have a number of people that have their hands raised, and that's why we set the conferences. I did, I had forgotten to reset it before the show, and I didn't want it to die in the middle of a conversation. So, of course, well, actually, we've got even more. Sketch, come on in here. What have you got for us? All right, we'll start with Sketch. Hey, Sketch. Hey, good morning to both of you. Thank you so much for being here today, and I want to thank Paul for being the visionary to have Saul on this board, and to facilitate this. And when I wrote this question, there were 42 people on this board, which kind of brings me to the 42 is the answer to life. Matthew, first chapter, last of the first chapter, and I have a question. Conflict, the Chevron decision exposes this conflict, the great debate between belief and knowing. I'd like you to please talk about the conflict between your belief, and your knowing, and how you resolve that conflict. When there's a doubt, I mean, when you have a belief, I believe this is my opinion, you have a doubt, and when you know something, there is no doubt. So, if you could just talk about that conflict and how you resolve it, and when you go into court, do you have a belief that you're going to win, or do you know you're going to win? I yield so much. Oh, I know if I'm arguing according to the laws of nature, and the laws of nature is God, according to those fundamentals, and they all are fundamentals in those two volumes. If I'm arguing according to that, I know that, of course, we don't say we win, we say we prevail. And I know that God's law will prevail. I won't prevail. His law will prevail. And when every time I go into court, I'm acting. I tell my clients this, the things you're saying things through to me, all I'm doing as a lawyer, my job is to try to make it possible for my client to tell their story. Stories sell the jury. People want a story. That's why God puts his facts in stories and his law in stories so that it'll grab us. He made us that way. That's why we want a story, want to hear a story. And so it's my job to tell all the clients story, and I tell them when you're telling your story through me or by testifying in yourself or as I cross examine, it's you doing it through the lawyer. I'm just there as your agent. I'm doing it under your authority. It's delegated authority to me to do it. But when I do that, and when you do that, when we do that, we're acting as prophets. Why? Because we're telling the truth, though, they're men. And when you tell the truth, though, they're men, as God's law, as of nature, and his laws of nature as God reveal it, you're in the office of a prophet. It's not complicated, and it's not holier than that stuff. You read the Bible to your children. You're acting in the office of a prophet. A prophet represents God before men. A priest represents men before God. It's the opposite. It goes the opposite direction comes at it from two different ends. Remember that. And the priesthood of the believer is one of the central, by the way, central features of the Reformation. Martin Luther made much of it, of course. And the other reformers did, too. It's the priesthood of the believer. The Roman priesthood is not in the Bible anywhere. And all the other priesthoods of the evil empire, the monks and the Hindus and all that filth. Get it out of your lives. But belief versus knowledge, let me get hit the nail with my head, if I may. I struggle with doing that, and I ought to do it more often. I want to tell stories instead. They're not wrong with the stories, but you got to hit the nail with your head at some point, as Hendrix says. So in the book of 1 John, which I recommend to go to first, when you want to go to the Bible. And you've heard me say it, say it some of y'all in here, read it 30 times and 30 days won't take you long. Get up in the morning and only do it in the morning because that's when your mind is fresh. Read it 30 times the book of 1 John, five chapters. Every morning for 30 days, you'll be amazed at what you find and you'll keep finding things. But in that book, in that book, simple words, by my count, a vocabulary of 204, just over 240 words, 242 Greek words used in different forms, but John was a fisherman. He wasn't a Harvard educated man. He was unleaded, but a powerful book he wrote. Why? Because he had been with the law giver himself, the savior of mankind was with him for over three years. He was the foreman of the 12th man jury that Jesus Christ and panel witnessed the evidence of his identity. John, he knew the truth. Well, he wrote that book 25 times, 25 times in that one book, five short chapters. He says in substance, I write these things to you that you may know. I write these things to you that you may know, not that you may feel, not that you may learn, not that you may believe, but that you may know. He says it right in the first chapter. He says it about on average five times in each chapter, that's a lot. I write these things to you that you may know. Well, what is knowledge, the Bible? There are two words in the New Testament to distinguish. Two words in the New Testament translated no or knowledge in the verb or the noun form. One of them is Oida, and the other one is Ginozco. There's the root words Oida and Ginozco. Oida has, it's from the, an ancient root, from the Sanskrit even. We can trace it back. It means to see our word Oida is from the transcript word with, from the, they had a letter called DiGama. We've lost that in the European tongues, but they had a letter called DiGama. It's a V and a D together, Vid. And we still use that word. It's very well known in our culture. Or video. That's from the Sanskrit bid that means to see. And this Greek word means to see Oida. And what it means is that you know it because you see it, you see it in your mind's eye, you recognize it, you read it in the book. Somebody told you about it. You've even seen it in nature. The heavens declare the glory of God Psalm 19. I cited that while ago. The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament, his fingerwork, his handiwork, the glory of God. And day after day and night after night, it says and it goes on, hey, people can see that. What are they? Well, they, because they see that, what does that do for them? You see it. I see it. Everybody sees it. They have knowledge from seeing it called called Oida. Oida, they see it. The devils have knowledge because they see what God has done. They see a lot of things. They see the Savior, the devils, the Bible says, James says, the devil see and they believe. And what do they do? They tremble. They're scared out of their blasted wits and fear drives persons to do ugly things. That's why they do ugly things. That's why other people do ugly things to you because they're afraid, afraid of what? Hell, they're afraid of hell. Hey, but did you know? Did you know there's that word? Did you know that you can know you're not going to hell? That's what the Bible teaches. Let me get on with this. Oida means you know it. You believe it. But the other word is Ginozco. Ginozco, as the one John uses 25 times in the first time, John, I write these things to you that you may know. That doesn't mean you read it in the book. You heard from somebody else or you even saw it with your own eyes and believe it. Now, that means you have an experienced knowledge that has become part of fabric of your body, soul and spirit. And you don't even have to think about it anymore. You react because of the knowledge you react a certain way. You just do certain things like driving a car. You don't think your hands are moving, your foot is moving. You've done it so much. That Ginozco, you know from experience and it's become the fabric of, as Roger said a while ago, it's part of your genetic, you have that gene. God, when you're born above, you give your new creature, you have a spiritual gene. It's all there. And you know, I write these things, you cannot know my friend. You cannot know you're free from hell unless you know, unless you see it and experience it through the Word of God, the Bible. That's what the Bible teaches. Other people say, well, a lot of people in the world don't have the Bible. That's a fact. Yeah, God's charge of that. I'm not as I said a while ago. Why is it that God chose to go to that island called Britain and make the book, the Word of God, the center of what happened there during the Reformation. And we can't identify any particular man that made it happen. He did that. And that gave our Christianity coming from the English-speaking world a more intense intensity towards the Bible that the rest of Europe doesn't have. Oh, they believe the Bible, the Lutheran believe the Bible, but it's not that culture of intensity that the Puritans and the Presbyterians have had and that we have here now, no matter what name we call ourselves by, because we know, we know. And because we know it removes, as it says at the end of 1 John, it throws fear clean outside. And once fear gets thrown out, we're not dangerous to other people, and we're not dangerous to ourselves. And we get real productive. That's what Genosco will do for you. See, there is belief and I don't eat in my translates to the winterized version of the Bible. I don't use the word belief except where it's appropriate and it's appropriate in very few places. The devils believe and they tremble. It's a weak word. I put that in there, but everyplace else, that word pistis occurs in the New Testament. Amen is the word for it. One of the words in the Old Testament. I use the word trust. It's trust. If you know that you know, if you're coaxed and you're only coaxable to know, for sure, if you're born of the Spirit, you're not even coaxable. If you're not born of the Spirit, you cannot even be persuaded. That's true. So it's not that you believe that Jesus Christ lived, died and wrote, that's not it. No, do you trust him? And the only way to trust him is through his book. There is no other way. I've been accused, Roger, of deifying the Bible. Well, I'll take that. Jesus Christ gave it that kind of level of dignity. And I do too. If he said, if my words dwell in you, then you are truly my learner, if my words dwell in you. And you'll truly have power if my words dwell in you. And you will truly overcome this first John 2. You will overcome the evil empire if my words dwell in you. Well, what words is he talking about? They're in the Bible. Don't listen to all these present-day self-proclaimed prophets. They'll tell you, "I, the God, told me, con," or what? This guy is the popular one, some rabbi. I know Christian people that listen to him, listen to him religiously, if they would get that much attention to the Bible, but they don't. And once you accept the word of God coming through something other than the Bible, the Bible will receive your consideration to that degree. That's a fact of history. I've watched it all my life too. The Bible is it. And you can know, I write these things to you that you may know that you have eternal life. That's a quote from 1 John. Well, if you know that you know, it's not a matter of, "I hope I'm good enough to go to heaven when I die." You're going to hell, dude, if that's all you know. Get your... Oh boy, Roger, go ahead, or whoever knows. Sketch, I was gonna... I basically... Brett says the same thing. I say, when I give you an illustration, when I get in discussions with on some of the fine points, what we discuss around here and somebody's very antithetical to that, and I'll say to them, here's the difference is, see, you think you're right, but I know I'm right, because I got the research to back it up, but they don't. They're just saying what they think, what they've been conditioned for. So that's how I address it. Okay. So I hope we got you. I want to try and get to some of these other folks that are on there. So you're saying, if my interpretation's right, if you have a conflict with a belief and you're knowing, which one do you go for? Just this quick answer would be very helpful. Well, I try and research what I know for. I'm just trying to research out. I can give you an example. You have water. Do you believe it's water or do you know it's water? Here's the way that works. I'm glad you did that. That's a good example. I'll give you another example now that you've got the examples going. I think of one. A pilot that flies an airplane, if he's instrument qualified and licensed, he doesn't trust what he sees with his eyes. That's the laws of nature. What you see here and where the laws of nature conflict with the Bible, the Bible's final. That's why I say the Bible. You want to know something? See what facts the Bible gives you. That's final. You can be in an airplane and be looking and think you're straight up horizontal with your head up and your bottom side down toward the land and you can be upside down because vertigo and all that stuff can get to you. That's why a man that flies by the instruments is trained and you have to train yourself to do it. You don't trust what you see and what you feel. You trust those instruments. By analogy, that's what I'm saying in the Bible is the Bible is the instrument. God the Spirit will give you the confidence in the book because it is evidence that is proven reliable by the badges and the rules of evidence. That's really what it comes down to. Let me just refer you. Roger if I may, just one more thing I want to say. A goat, if you get the book, the winterized version of the Bible or excellence of the common law, those two books, there's an appendix in the back of both of those, how you know by the rules of evidence, you know the Bible is true. The Bible is evidence. That's what God intends and if you're persuadable to it, that means he's birthed you from above. If you're not, he hasn't. If the Bible says it, he used to hear the old preacher at home and say it. He said this, if the Bible says it, I believe it, that's it. Then he'd say, but that's not really the best way to express that. The best way to express it is the Bible says it and that's it. And it really doesn't make any difference with you, believe it or not. That's not going to change it. That's it. It's true. Roger. Thank you. I really want to tell that comment, but we see a mirage. We know what water is and we see a mirage and we think there's water. Thank you. Good analogy, thanks for that. I'll use it. I appreciate it. Uh-huh. Good. If you can tell I'm who's next or who wants to volunteer or whatever. I have no idea where to go. I have no idea where to where to go. We've got a we've got a name that I've never seen before, which is Mapuzzi Green, which is probably a new student. It's probably going to take time to deal with them. Linda has her hand up. I know that she's probably going to want to talk about the Chevron decision and Daryl has his hand up and he usually has a lot to say and we only have 15 minutes to do it. So where are we going? Let's go with the new one. Mapuzzi Green. I hope I pronounced that right. Press star six and unmute yourself or let me hit a button and see if I can do it. Yep. Hello. Welcome, by the way. Mapuzzi, are you there? Yeah, you're going to have to use. Oh, you're on you're on a computer. You're going to have to hit your click on your microphone down on the manual and lower left. Pete, now or forever? Hold your piece. Okay, we have to move on. Okay, we're going to go on. We'll come back to you there. We'll figure it out. Let's go to Linda. Thank you, ladies and Louise, from Connecticut, in Connecticut. It crashed this morning. My crib hot was telling me how excited she was that her granddotto, who's about to turn 18, was so excited that the Chevron case was overturned. Neither grandmother nor the young lady could really articulate what that really means. And I, who is the student of Sir Roger, know that he says when you teach somebody something, that's when you really get to learn. So I was not able to really articulate until today, after listening to Brent, and your one sentence made it so clear to me, Brent, who has authority to delegate what that has what has happened with the Chevron case being overturned correct for some long. I just love it. Cool. Yeah, let me give you another way to look at it to Linda. Let me give you another way to look at it also that I think is pretty correct. It puts the, it puts the teeth back in the Administrative Procedures Act. Well, that's the direction I went this morning to tell you the truth. And I said to my crib hot enough, you got to listen to Roger because he articulated so well. So hopefully, she'll come on and maybe her granddotto's ears will be if I, and you can go through that beautiful expose of the Administrative Procedures Act. So I agree with you. It's very powerful, but that's what, that's basically what Chevron did is it neutered it. Okay, and they can make rules however they want on whatever they want, make it any direction. And now they've been brought to heel and they're going to have to in the future follow the Administrative Procedures Act, which is why it's there, because none of these agencies that popped up after March the 9th and 33 had any kind of limitations. Okay, so that's what it is. And it put the teeth back into it is kind of the way I look at it. I hope, I hope Bremer agrees with me. Oh, I agree with you about that. But I just soon say that President bureaucracies have no authority to promulgate regulations at all before 1933 and along in there, they did never, we didn't even have agencies before 1933. We don't have authority for that either. So yeah, you're right. Okay, good. We got you Linda. And please invite your personal partner to come on and join us. How about your sidekick there, Mr. Darryl? Darryl, come on down. You're the next contestant on freedom is right. Mr. Darryl. Darryl, can you hear me? Yeah, now we can. Okay, yeah, I didn't know I thought I was going to be unmuted, but I guess I was still unmuted. I guess you were saying earlier, and maybe I misunderstood what you said, but were you saying that common law is not based upon the Bible? Correct. You're implying that no, I'm not implying anything. I'm saying common law is not based on the Bible. Common law is from the same source of the Bible. Therefore, it's consonant with the Bible, but did not arise out of the Bible. No, I didn't. Very good. Very good. Okay, my question is, who is or what law established absolute right and absolute wrong? Didn't that come from the Bible? Right, it comes from the Bible, comes from God, comes from the Makervel. Isn't the Bible considered the word of God that I guess this is where I'm maybe getting confused? Well, let me just try it again. I just talk until I hope I hit it right, that I know it's hard to communicate. And I don't call it you for not understanding me, because I'm not always clear. But bottom line is this, I'm glad you brought it up, Darryl. Try to make this point. Psalm 19, for example, I will refer you to that. The first half of that Psalm talks about God's revelation in nature. The way material living in non-living material relates to each other. It references that. The first half, the second half of that Psalm references the word of God written. The first half is about the first volume. It's from who? It's from God. It didn't come out of the Bible. It's from God. It's from the Maker of all things, Genesis chapter 1. He saw it. He made it. It was good. He made everything, starting with light. And he talks there about light. He's referring to the creation account, but he's saying what men see in nature, what you and I see in nature, is God revealing to us his wisdom, his power, and also his condemnation. The revelation of nature, the revelation of creation, as the Reformers said, and they said it right, is a revelation to condemnation. It's from God. It's not out of the Bible. It's from the same source. Therefore, it is perfectly consistent and consonant with everything the Bible says. But then to become saved from hell, a man has to get the seed of the word of God. Because you cannot, people say, "Oh, I go out in nature and worship God." Well, you can worship God in nature, but understand something. The new birth only comes from the seed of the word of God written. That's where it comes from. And the Bible is clear on that. But nature, God designed nature, although it's beautiful, although it's wonderful, although we're to enjoy it, it is our condemnation. Because all it tells us is God made everything, therefore, we answer to Him. And if you are of Adam's race, you're doomed before you ever start, because you are of Adam's race. And then he sends the seed of the word of God, which is also from Him. But those two, here's another fascinating point. I want to bring this up to you while we're talking about it. That Psalm 19, the first half is about nature and creation and how God reveals Himself in nature and creation. But all of the terms, all the Hebrew words are literary words, not astronomical. They're literary. And it talks about astronomical, talks about the heavens and the sun and all that stuff. Nature. The second half of the Psalm is about the word of God written. But all of the terms in the second half of that short Psalm are astronomical terms about the heavens and creation, the sun, the moon, and the stars. David wrote that Psalm and he wove them together. See, the laws of nature and the laws of nature is God weaved together perfectly. But one does not arise from the other. They're both from the same source. Everything, of course, that's in creation, seen and unseen is from the same source. And the chief doctrine of all the worship of God is the consistency and the unity of the Godhead, the three persons of the Godhead, and also then if they're inconsistent and perfect unity, then also everything they do and everything they make is inconsistent and perfect unity. And that's why Jesus Christ said, I only do what I see the Father doing. We have made an agreement, Titus chapter one, among the Godhead, what we will do in this relationship to our creature, man, or his redemption. They made an agreement. So there's the unity of it all. And the two go together, but no, the man does not go to the Bible and take the common law of the Bible. But man does go to the Bible and show that the Bible is consistent with our common law. If you get the book, for example, Excellence of the Common Law, you can go to the website commonlawyer.com and get it. I have in that book, it's all about our common law compared and contrasted with the law of the city. And I have in that book over a thousand scripture references. Why? Because it's all consonant with the Bible I'm showing, trying to undergird. I'm undergirding. Undergirding our common law with the word of God written, Lex Scripta says Blackstone. That's our common law or Lex Scripta. That's our Bible law written and Lex Nonscripta law, not written. That's our common law. Our observations in creation of how God has structured the world with his law. I hope that helps. I just keep trying to talk. Maybe I'll say something. Well, you know what comes to mind is, you know, John, the first couple of verses in John, you know, where you actually are distinguished in the Bible different from God or the words that are in the Bible distinguished from God being two separate things. But it says in the beginning was the word, the word is with God, the word was God. And the same was in the beginning with God. But when God spoke, it became. And this is a big bang theory that I believe that when God spoke, let there be boom, there it was, as it word became flesh and dwelled among us. But anyway, I had another question and I agree, you know, with you where you mentioned that that you must be born again, you must be born from above. You basically must receive Christ into your heart, the love of Christ. And according to the spiritual principles that were established by the words of our Creator, which are also in scripture, and the superior law being love, which love is a fulfillment of the law and heart of nobody. Oh, love is the keeping of the commandments says John, that's what it is, it's about law. But coming back, no place in the Bible, no place in the Bible is to say that anybody can or must or should or did receive Christ into their hearts. That's, that's not biblical to even say that. I get that clearly. But I know what you mean when you say that, I understand that, but that's not what happens. And that's not what the Bible says we must do. Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, but I know no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and I appreciate your forthrightness about what you think. But on that point, I'm not even going to allow disagreement. The Bible never says that if the Bible never says it, it doesn't say it. And it doesn't even hint toward it. Man is not God, never says man is to receive Christ into his heart. That's evangelicalism, or that's a best Billy Graham stuff. And that's not true. Does man receive Christ into his heart? Well, I suppose you could say that in some way. I don't know, but I just know the Bible doesn't say that the Bible says you must be born from above. And it says it doesn't say it behooves. It says it is fated to you, Nicodemus, fated behooves is the word the King James uses, fated that you be born from above. That's something God does. That's not something I do. And I have nothing to do with it. I don't even know what happens when it happens anymore than I knew when I was conceived as a baby of my mother's womb. That's what happens. At some point, you agree with God that it happened, but you don't accept anything. That's not the way it works. But go ahead. You want to say one more thing quickly, so we can get to maybe born from above meaning like where Paul was knocked off his donkey and was blinded and then received Christ based upon, received his spirit based upon his recognizing his freshly nature that you can't basically, you're living for the flesh and not for your master is your creator and not the creature. And I think that's kind of where we've drifted off into this world system is we've been putting the creature in charge of the destiny of the people. But my question is, when did the people become persons and property of the corporate state of and considered persons subject to the corporate statutes or jurisdiction that the lawyers killed and forces in the court say? I'm going to I'm going to ask you wait, wait, wait, I'm going to ask you to bring that up next week, all that corporate stuff and that I call it patriot mythology. But right now I want to stick to this and I appreciate you coming back next week and and bring that up and maybe we can talk about it, but we need I want to get one more person in if I can. I'm going back to one minute old, you've had about 12 minutes. Okay. We don't have any time left. We can't give it to everybody. I wanted to get this new person. Thank you for your time. You're welcome. They never put their hand back up. Who is he green? Go ahead and unmute yourself. Put your hand back up. Let's try and get you in here. We've only got a couple of minutes left. We don't even have that. Oh, we can hang over till the after show though. Yeah, hang over to the after show. Let's talk about common lawyer.com real quickly. We've only got about a minute. Tell us what all the goodies are over there. Would you go to common lawyer dot com www dot common lawyer dot com and join us for upcoming class law class on the Bill of Rights. Please join us. Sheriff Darley Finay will be teaching class on the Bill of Rights. Beginning I believe you can go to the website and look. I think if the 11th of July, but if it isn't, whenever it is, be what you got to do to join that class. And we hope we're going to enjoy it 12 weeks. Commit yourself to 12 weeks once a week for 12 weeks to join us as we go through that and find the winterized version of the Bible there and all these things we talk about are in fundamentally two books that I've written. One of them's a translation of the Bible with footnotes over 35,000 footnotes and 175 appendices. And then you say, well, that's what Brent thinks and you can go look. And then the other one is the excellence of the common law comparing and contrasting the law of the land with the law of the city on every continent and in every age. From the founding of the city of Babylon up to the present, that's the only way you can understand our common laws compared to contrast it with this great antagonist, the law of the city, the law of the land versus the law of the city. Thank you very much common lawyer dot com and join us tomorrow morning tomorrow morning. Yes, well, we're on well, you go and to the website go to the media page and you can see you can listen to us on the regular Internet every day of the week. Thank you, Roger. Brent, you're welcome. You got to, if you're, you don't have to scoot off today, then you're welcome to stick around. We'll probably talk for a bit and see if we can catch some of these other people that had questions or whatnot. But if you got something on your plate, we can certainly understand that too. We'll be back tomorrow since we're getting back into the swing of the week halfway at the usual time here at this usual place and hopefully we'll see you then if you're interested. So anyway, thanks for today, taking your time and we'll see you soon. Bye. Okay, we're off of Eurofolk. We're still on global voice and still on home network too. All right. Well, let's see if you can get some hands raised from people that had had something they wanted to inject or ask. Is anybody there, Paul? Just Daryl and Linda. Linda, do you have anything to add? No, I'm good. You did a great job today. I appreciate you both. All three of you. We're getting better at it. I think we're getting better at it, Linda. Yes, we have. Just for her. Okay. I think the disconnect. The disconnect is when an in-depth topic is being discussed and Brent is trying to connect all the dots and bring things together. The only way to tell him that there are hands raised is to actually interrupt him, which is not productive. So what I'm going to start doing is I'm going to start turning on the webcam on one of the systems. So anybody that looks at the picture on that webcam can see if there's any hands raised. First time I've ever seen this today. First time I ever did it. It's first time I ever did it. Yeah, that's kind of what I look at. That's one of three computers running the show. Joan actually just raised your hand. Joan, come on in here. Joan from Costa Rica. Hey, Joan. Hey, I had a question for Brent if he's still there, because it had to do with his last Sunday in church. Brent, are you still with us? You take off. No, I'm here. I'm here. Okay. He's there. Go ahead, Joan. You know, you know, when you were saying that Paul never even mentioned Judaism and you also said the law of God says don't even talk about Judaism. It's idolatry. It's evil. It's dangerous. Yeah, it was all the same. I think Brent said the Bible says don't even be talking to the evil empire, or maybe that was just from Brent. But so Brent, do you have a scripture that says the law of God says don't even talk about Judaism. It's idolatry. Paul the apostle, Paul the apostle mentioned it, but he never talked about his doctrines directly, and he counted them all as human sewage. Yes, he did that, but he wouldn't talk about them amazingly. Of course, he knew them better than anybody. He was the yellow hare poet coming up in the system and filling his lust to the hilt, murdering people, killing people, and murdering people, and stealing their property. Still kill and destroy. Just like the devil himself. He did all that. And he said I found mercy because I really thought, I really, it was unintentional. Unintentional. I thought I was serving God. There are a lot of people like that. They think they're serving God doing evil. Most people in false religion is that way. That's true. Are that way? Well, but when it comes to the scripture verse, I'm going to let you look it up. It's counterproductive for me to to proof test text and say, well, here it is, and there it is, and go, I don't do that much, but I know it's in the Bible. That's what my dad used to say to me. I guess I'm like, yeah, I'd say something. And he'd say something and I'd say, well, where do you get that? He'd send the Bible. You ever read the Bible? It's in the Bible. And then I go look. And if you go look for yourself, you remember it. If I tell you where it is, well, you probably won't remember it. So here's what you do. You go to the computer and you type in keywords and then put the word Bible after it. Where does it say this in the Bible? You'll get more stuff and you know, and that's the way you do research on the Internet. But in the law of God, what it says is this, I'm talking the law of God. I mean, the statutes, commandments, they're in the writings of Moses. It says that God's people are not even to mention the names of the false gods, the demon gods, the evil gods. And that's what Judaism is. Judaism is idolatry. Judaism is scholasticism. And of course, every, every epistle, of course, the gospel records, their life of Jesus Christ, he railed against them like he didn't rail against anybody. The obvious things that could possibly be said given the vocabulary. And then you get to the epistles and all every one of the epistles is written against doctrine of Judaism without mentioning the doctrine. Written clearly against major doctrines of Judaism, Judaism is the prototype of all false religions in the world, according to Jesus Christ and according to the Bible, beginning way back in the book of Esther. You can see it played out. But Judaism is written against. I say this on the authority. I'm not alone in saying this. I have a series of books written over 100 years ago, well over 100 years ago. By an Englishman, his name was Lightfoot. His last name was Lightfoot. And he spent his life correlating the doctrines of the New Testament to show clearly when somebody said this or when somebody said that without overtly stating what the doctrine was, all they're doing is the writers, the Bible are saying they're addressing a doctrine of Judaism. Oh, why are they addressing a doctrine of Judaism? Because the Christianity, as the Bible says, went to Yehuda first. God commanded that it go to Yehuda, Jewry first, and then to the rest of the world and to Jerusalem and Judaism, Judah, and then the rest of the world. And it did. And so the first Christians were people that were awash and swimming in Judaism. You say, well, they were all God's people. Oh, they're all sorts of people from all sorts of races all over the world and still that way today. And they were there, but they were following this religion called Judaism. Judaism is a religion. It's not a race of people. The word Jew does not refer to religion. It does not refer to a race of people. It refers to a religious point of view, a religion called Babylonian Judaism. And all Judaism is Babylonian, by definition, is redundant to say Babylonian Judaism. But that's, I do that so that people will understand what it is. And because of that, all the people in the Bible that right wrote the New Testament, they understood Babylonian Judaism. That's all there was in Judea where they lived and around there. And so when they wrote and they compared and contrasted, the only thing they had on their minds for a contrast with the true religion, which is Christianity, is Babylonian Judaism. Christianity, that word doesn't appear in the Bible either. But we need a handle. There's nothing wrong with the handle. We need a handle for worshiping the creator of heaven and earth and all that in them is in the way he says to worship him. You're not allowed to worship him in the old way you want and feel good about it. Well, I love God and I know I'm going to do this and I'm no. You come to him according, this is common law, due process. You come to him how he says to come to him. You don't, you come any other way. He won't accept, he won't accept your presence. He won't accept it at all. You know, the key to the Bible is not that we can receive Christ. That's not the key to salvation. What's the key to salvation? The key to salvation is, does he receive us? And we're looking at it backwards. And that's why I said, while we go true, the Bible never says anything about me receiving Christ, me welcoming him. It says something about him welcoming me and he's the final word. And if he does it, it's done. If he doesn't do it, it's not done. We're two, of course, it's hard not to be in the flesh, but we're, we're centered on the flesh. We're centered on ourselves. We're centered on our experience and he draws us out and says, I am the God you cannot see. And I want you to center on me. And the only way you can do that is to center on my words. He said to the Israelites that Sinai, after that horrible delivery of his word written to Moses, it scared him so bad. He said, when we were there, the people, the Israelites saw no similitude, no likeness of me, no idol, no picture, no statue. They only, I'm quoting the Bible, they only heard the sound of a voice. And that's what God wants us to hear, the sound of being read and unpack, the concepts of it. And he wants us to trust him on that basis, not on the basis of anything we see. Or the basis ultimately, trust and to trust him, if you don't, if you do it the way he says, you know, you know, the truth is God. No, you trust Jesus, the Christ. And if his words dwell in you, and the Bible is the words of Jesus Christ, that's what the Bible says. The Bible says Jesus Christ is the creator of heaven and earth, and all that in him is the God had got together and read and delegated that responsibility to him, and he did it and delegated to him responsibility of redeeming this creature that God made, redeeming out of Adam, out of Adam's race to redeem his own. And he did that. He kept his word to the point of horrible pain and death, to being separated in a way we can't even fathom from the Godhead itself. All of that, all of that is what we're to focus on and not focus on false religion, study false religion. We know about it, get out of here, I don't want to go near it, keep yourself clear away from it, says in 1 John the last verse, that's what we're to focus on. So go to the Bible, it's a theme from the law of God that we're not to be in the presence of idols, we are to run from them, visual aids to worship as some Protestants like to say no, no, the Bible says no, get away from all that. It will destroy your creativity, says the Bible, it gives demons an opportunity that they would not otherwise have, the Bible talks about that. So just, I'm summing up for you, don't go study in false religion, the only way to know false religion, and really know it, is to know to the nth degree the true religion. James and the Bible calls it true Christianity, true religion. And the only way to know it is to study it. And by studying it, you will recognize false religion when you see it. If you go study in false religion, you won't even recognize it when you see it. We've used this analogy before, and it's true, counterfeit agents, and Roger brought it up, counterfeit agents for the FBI do not study counterfeit bills. They study the real McCoy, they study it to the nth degree. And so when they see any counterfeit bill that comes up, they recognize it as counterfeit, because they know the real article so well. You know the Bible really well, you'll recognize the false article, and that's the job that lawyers do every day. They get a feel for what the law is, and they know the law, they study the law, they work with the law, and then when something that's unlawful comes up, they go, that doesn't seem right. Now that's an analogy, but the Christian man ought to be better at it than that. If something is a biblical, he ought to be able to feel it, because he knows it. He didn't know about it. Now while ago somebody mentioned belief versus trust, and then we went to knowing or just thinking, as Roger pointed out, we could put it this way, there's a difference between knowing about the law of God, the Bible, and knowing the Bible. There's a difference between you knowing about a woman you want to court and getting her behind closed doors, hopefully after you're married, and then you really begin to know her. I mean, really know her, and then you know her. You don't just know about her. Oh, she's beautiful. She's wonderful. Look at her hair. It's just gorgeous. I love the expression she puts on. You know all about her, but you don't know her. And God's they who do know they're God shall be strong and do exploits. I write these things to you, first job, young men, because you do know the word of God and have overcome the evil one. Why? Because you know the word of God. It says the word of God dwells in you, and you have overcome the evil one. Well, it's in you. Yeah. And then he says to the old men, I write unto you because you have known the one who is from the beginning. That's deep knowledge. And it's always Genosco with John. I see his thing with his otherwise. Right. Do you, Rodney? Hope that got you, John. Was there anybody else hanging out? You're welcome, sweetie. Okay, sketch. Come on, sketch. You didn't get enough, huh? Well, I was just gonna if there's no one else, I was just gonna please tell us what the Bible says about man, and it's, and his fallibilities. He is evil. No, no, as hard as evil, no man shall know it. But the question is how, how bad is man? Is that what you said? It's their fallibility, their, their evilness. Oh, I put it this way. When I was in the mine of business, I was in the deserts of Arizona and Nevada. I, I, there are a lot of rattlesnakes out there. And scorpions. And you have a leader and gila monsters and tarantulas and giant centipedes all up poisonous. Everything in the desert in Arizona is poisonous. Every living thing is poisonous. Why didn't I wasn't bothered by all that. There was one thing that bothered me more than all that put together. And I was very, very respectful of. And that is the evil of the two-legged creatures out there in the desert called men. Oh, yeah. No, and I say that. It's kind of funny in a way, but it's a truth. I could handle the creatures, but I could not handle men that had gold fever. That's another matter. I have to have the greed behind it. Impredictable, dangerous to the point of murderous. Absolutely. And men are that way. And the Bible says that. The heart of man is, Jeremiah says, the heart of man is desperately wicked. Who can know it? You can't lose one. Yeah, how wicked you were trying to pull that verse up. Yeah, you can't even know. And here's the other thing. You can't know how black your own heart is. David wrote in the Psalms, "Search me, O God. Try me and know my thoughts. See if there be some wicked way in me and lead me in the way everlasting. I can't even see how bad I am. Lord, please search me. I'm asking you, God, Yahuwah. Search me and show me. So I know, so I can confess it to you because that's what God commands. You see, it's the mark of the Christian man because the past is evil. And to know it, listen, salvation, safety from hell is not the result of confession of sin. You folk that have been to a confessional. That's a Babylonian institution from the courts of Babylon. It's not in the Bible anywhere. It's an intelligence gathering device that's been used for centuries. It's still being used. Stay away from all that filth and trash. Your confession of your evil is to God, not to me. You confess evil to men. They'll use it against you. They'll destroy you with it. I don't know. Well, the guy's got a priest robe on. Well, that just means he's a pedophile then, doesn't it? That's how evil men are. What is it? Once they have the opportunity to do it, you know, who was it? Lord Acton quoted this. Lord Acton is famous for saying power corrupts an absolute power corrupts absolutely. That is a Romanist, a Roman Catholic, and I don't know a Catholic. He's just a Romanist. He's a popling saying that. That is not what the Bible teaches. I get his sediment and he was a smart man. He said a lot of good things. But Lord Acton was a Romanist to the hilt. That means the common law didn't mean anything to him. It was conflicted to him. He didn't understand. Why do I say that? Because power never corrupted anybody. No, man is corrupt. They were corrupted before they got their hands on it. Yeah, and the power exacerbated the corruption that was already in the man. That's what happened. But gave him a shield. He gave him a shield. He thinks now he's invincible. He's protected. Yeah. And Acton again said a lot of good things are consonant with the Bible. For example, he said that there is no doctrine so monstrous as the doctrine that says that the office sanctifies the man. The office sanctifies the man. Well, what was he talking about? He was talking about the Pope of Rome. The Pope of Rome in his lifetime back in the 1850s made the doctrine of ex cathedra official. He blew a proverbial head gasket. What do you think about him? Why would he follow Romanism and still see the truth? I never could figure out Acton. But Acton, just couldn't let go of it. And he made the comment that the doctrine of ex cathedra is evil beyond evil. He said, you take power and super opportunity and power to opportunity and you got a monster on your hands. He said that. Well, then why Acton do not accept the Bible's doctrine that men are tainted with the evil of their ancestor Adam at their conception? That means they're unacceptable to God. Any taint of evil will make a man unacceptable. Of course, that raises a lot of tough questions. But still, clearly, that's what the Bible teaches. And to say otherwise is to be a blind buffooned and to talk about the possibilities of man that's called humanism. Man is the major of all things. He's good enough to have as a standard he's not and our puret and forebears and our Presbyterian forebears in America. That was the center of their understanding of reality was the depravity of the heart of man. You see, in the Roman system, we talk about in as Protestants, we should, we don't want any more. We should the fall of man in the Garden of Eden. Our grandpa Adam fell. That's one of the words that's used there in the foul in the Hebrew. And when he fell, we recognize that he fell all the way to the bottom of bottom. But Rome doesn't say that. Rome says when man fell, he just fell to neutrality. The Bible says he fell to depravity. But why does Rome say he just fell to neutrality? I'll tell you why. Because they've got to make a way for man to choose, choose the priesthood of Rome and what they say is right. And if he only fell to, to, to neutrality, he's a blank slate and we can write on it. But the Bible doesn't say that. The Bible says man fell into such deep black depravity that he cannot even choose Christ. He cannot make that decision. He cannot receive Christ. He doesn't have the ability. The only choices he can make says the Bible are choices among evil things to do. He cannot choose what is good. And even when each, he does something that is good on the human level, it's tainted with his false understanding of reality and his selfishness. He's got to pound the flesh in it no matter what. And there are a lot of people that do that. Of course. And we're glad they do. But as it comes to man and God, it does not commend the man to God to do anything of his own power. And God says you don't have the ability to even make that choice. That's why friends, the new birth is necessary. You cannot. The Bible says you can't even choose Christ. The only way God's going to save you is by conceiving you as a new creature. And that's what he does. That's what our Puritan forebears believe. That's what our first fathers of America believe. And they were also in England and were there for a long time afterward. And you know that doctrine, that doctrine is foundational to the understanding of who man is and a relationship to God that has produced a wealth and prosperity that nobody in the world has ever experienced. Because humility comes at that. You say anything else, well, I was smart enough to make the right decision. I chose Christ. You don't understand the Bible, bud. You may have. You may. You may think you did. No, no, we love him. Why? Because he first loved us and he will get his love out of us back to him. No matter what, it's going to happen. Well, Roger, back to you. Well, anybody else got any questions or comments? Okay, Brendan will release you because I know you got things to do as I do. And we will be back tomorrow back on our little Saturday schedule. So maybe there'll be some folks. A lot of folks are on a four day weekend right now. You know, it's like when Christmas or fourth or something or on Tuesdays or Thursdays, you can stretch that into four days. And I'm sure a lot of people do. So maybe there'll be some folks that ordinarily can't join us. It'll join us tomorrow. We'll see. So otherwise in that brand, always appreciate your wisdom, your insights and being here with you. We'll see you again next week. Lord willing. Thank you, Roger and the feeling mutual. Thank you for all your comments. Take things around here and it's more valuable to me. I'm convinced that it is even if you think it's valuable to you, it's more valuable to me to get the comments and the questions. And we press again, respectability and recognition that Roger and I have a responsibility here to ensure that things are not promoted or said that are confusing or contrary to people. And it's our call. We got to do that. And if you don't do it, nothing I can do to help you. Yep. And to keep down any confusion that does muddy the water like that. And I think Paul's gone a long way with this format the way it's ironing out and we're getting used to it. And I believe it works real well. So anyway, thank you, Brent. Thank you, Francine for joining us. And we'll see the audience tomorrow, I guess. Okay. Thank you. I don't know. Well, you're going to have to turn me off because you've got so many things on my screen here. I can't even find my old deal. Let's see, I'm better. I can do that right now. There we go. There's a bunch of stuff on there, man. And those are the buttons I look at. That's one of three computers. Well, well, you the man. Okay. Now, why can't I get my little thingy back up here? Come on, thingy. But I do it now. Okay, desktop to you too. All right, Paul. Well, hold it. I think I'm going to get out of it. Well, now it's here. There it is. Okay. There you go. All right. My friend. Yeah, there I am. Okay. Now, what do I do here? Do that? Enlarge it. How do you enlarge it? Oh, this is that how did it? Oh, I'm having a hard time here. Wait, I see. Okay. Where's that red button? Well, I can't see how to get a full. Is that a full screen there? Yes, there we go. All right, guys and girls, I'll see you tomorrow. Y'all have a great rest Friday. We'll find something to kick around tomorrow. Rod your home. Yes. Yeah. So loot day, but two day, but then go on. I read the dirty. Okay. Okay, be in, be in. That's what I'll say back to that. And we'll see you all tomorrow. Thank you, Paul. Thanks, everybody. Ciao. Hey, Rod, before you go. Oh, damn. Damn. Oh, I wanted to get him before he hung up. Sorry, I interrupted you, Paul. That's all right. I can, I can, I can send him a message on Skype or whatever and tell him what I needed to tell him. All right, that's it. Let's, let's shut this puppy down. Let's do that. Sounds like a plan. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Seals, the Friday edition with co-host Brent Allen Winters on Global Voice Radio Network, Eurofolkradio.com, and a whole bunch of other platforms. I've said them three times today or two times today. I don't need to do it again. Catch us for the Sabado edition tomorrow, 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. Eastern Time on Eurofolkradio.com and Global Voice Radio Network. Those, those are the two platforms you can rely on for Saturdays. For more information on the topics discussed, go to thematrixdocs.com or nationalsonway.com. And please do think about joining us live on the air. You can join us in either Zoom or free conference call and the links for numerous ways to connect to those platforms are on the matrix docs. That's it for me. I'm out of here. Have a great day and I trust that you had a enjoyable 4th of July celebration. And let's hope you do have that 4th day weekend Roger was talking about because everybody deserves it. Everybody. Thanks so much. Bye now. Plastic Voice of Freedom Worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network. Bye bye, boy. Have fun storming the castle. ♪ Now I know ♪ ♪ Waking my taste ♪