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This life is now on. There we go. Welcome to Pulling English Live on Global Voice Radio Network. We'll be getting started in about 75 seconds. Hold tighter, go get a soda. Mmm. I didn't want it to do that. Don't do that. That's really irritating. We want this to happen. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] Well hello, good afternoon, good evening, good morning, good just good goodness to you and all that kind of thing. It's Thursday isn't it? It is. It's very fast. 27th of June 2024, only one week to go to the very exciting day, whatever that might be. What is the very exciting day? The very exciting day is the UK general election which is coming up very very soon anyway. So you're listening to Pulling English Live. We're here on WBN 324. We're with you for the next couple of hours. I've got a guest rocking up. So he says, no he does. He'll be here a little bit later. George Hobbes is on the show. Welcome to the show. Let's have some fun. [Music] Anybody got sunstroke? The sun's been out for over a day in England. People are dropping like flies. [Music] [Music] And yeah, as I was saying just there George Hobbes, the fact answer, we'll be joining us shortly, imminently, immediately, possibly a little bit later than that and we might have, I think we will have the usual crew in here at some point. Paul B will be here, in fact he's already here, really snuck in the back door and Patrick C could well be joining us a little bit later in the show. [Music] And all systems appear to be "go" here, which is quite good. Everybody appears to be connected up that needs to be. So no firefighting yet. [Music] Yeah, hi everyone and welcome to Paul's Diner. Yeah, Paul's Diner and if you don't know what I'm talking about and you probably don't know what I'm talking about, this week's show image is the new restaurant I purchased just the other day somewhere in America. I don't quite know where but if you see it, it's a very nice place and if you want to hop by for a cheeseburger and some cheesecake at some point, please be my guest. I can possibly tell you where it is but somewhere in my head I've been in there several times. So there you go. I always wanted my own restaurant. Actually, I didn't. I know many people say that they do, don't they? They go, I want my own restaurant but I never did. Good friend of mine though, however, he was a neon bender. I had to phrase it like that for the benefit of certain listeners and you will have noticed on the restaurant there's the liberal use of neon for the sign and I've always loved neon signs. I don't know why but I have. Anyway, I'm serious. I had a good old friend. In fact, I think earlier in the year I probably let you all know I had to shoot back up north. Unfortunately for his demise, his funeral. So Andy is no longer around. Great guy. Very practical, very talented, used to rebuild cars and all that kind of stuff and he was also a commudgeon before we could even spell the word. This is when we were about 15 or 16. So he was a rather doubty and resilient character but he was a neon bender and of course he didn't take too kindly to it when I called him that which I really did, of course, because I didn't want him to get too cross. But there you go. You ever feel the urge to go to a restaurant that they're always pretty nice with a bit of neon on them. And speaking of restaurants, I've probably mentioned here before that every Tuesday, actually not every Tuesday, although it's tempting to think of it as every Tuesday. But every other Tuesday, I nip off to a pub that was quite near, was built about 1619 or something round here. And we had a good gathering on Tuesday just gone. And regular listeners to the show will know that, oh, I see why my screen's looking a bit funny. I've cocked something up but I don't think the audio has buggered up, but there we go. And that Sussex man who calls in here regularly onto the show and comes into the show managed to join us and it was great having you there. Sussex man, it was really good. So quite a journey for him actually came from the other county and he's no spring chicken. I hope he doesn't mind me saying that but he's even fantastic Nick and it was great to see him. So we had a jolly, jolly good time there everybody that evening. We got a few clips lined up for you tonight. I was going to talk about the cheesecake again, but it didn't seem sensible really to talk about the cheesecake, the cheesecake too much. But it was outstanding. It was outstanding cheesecake again. And anyway, so while we're on this American theme and seeing us have my guest is an American and is George Hobbs. And it probably actually is in the studio and I'm just checking and he is George, welcome to the show. How are you doing? Fantastic sir. How are you? I'm great. I'm great. It's like I was saying a little bit earlier. Those of you that don't know, we've got this new little thing going. Very, very microscopic station called Radio soapbox and George was on it live for the first time today. That went swimmingly well. And I was saying, I think I did a little click about it that it's a bit like you are operating under the British bus ideology, which is that you wait days for one to come along and then two come along at once. That's basically what happens. So we we've had the pleasure of you twice today, George, which is great. There you go. And great great thumbnail by the way, Paul's diner. You know, I think as we older, we reminisce about what we think about is better times and what better than the 1950s and the drive up restaurants where the people roll up on roller skates and bring your burgers and your shakes and just better times. Yeah, we do. We do. I really hang on, George, I'm just getting technical feedback. So what's the sound like on rumble, everybody? I'm just in the chat now. It's just a little time to get into the rumble chat. I'm just checking sound breakup on rumble. Is it still, is it pretty bad? We all sound wonderful here. Why would it be sounding bad? It could be to do with a very ropey internet connection here at this end. I don't really know. Just let me know will you in the chat if the sound is still pretty poor. We had trouble, I think at the beginning of last week. In fact, we did have trouble at the beginning of last week with rumble. If you aren't hearing it clearly on rumble, you could go and try it on D-live. If you want to sort of chat thing over there, but most of you don't have accounts there and it's more of a faff, isn't it? And sound is good on soapbox. Okay, so if you've got a radio soapbox.com, you'll get good sound. And of course, if you go to the flagship station, WBN-324, you'll also be should be getting really good sound, because all the signals here are that the sound is good. So how about that? The sound is good. What is it? Why is rumble picking on us? What's going on? Rumble to a pickup. Yeah, fantastic. So it's just rumble, the buggers. Do you think I've been rumbled on rumble? This is the whole thing. You're paranoia is just instantaneous around here, isn't it? I know. I know. Well, no one's right. I think it's so bad. No one can even write texts in there. Somebody writes something. Come on. There's about 30 or 40 of you in there. So let me just, I'm just going to type a question. Sorry about this. But it's always a bit of technical trouser adjustment, right? At the beginning of things, I'm just typing sound okay. I love the sound of people rattling on keyboards during. Well, nothing coming back just yet. Okay. Three out of ten. Good grief. I'm getting the rumble.com to load. Oh, there it is. Yeah, it took a minute for it to load on me. That's interesting. All right. I think, all right. Okay. So if the sound's really bad, try as on. I'm going to type it in. Bum, bum, bum. Yeah, it's a rumble issue. It's not me, on this boss. It usually is me, isn't it? Famous last words. Everything's going great. Try radio soapbox.com. Let me just dig up the main one at WBN. We've got to just get this sorted out. I mean, I've had things like power cuts right at the beginning of shows. Have you ever had anything like that? George is always good fun, isn't it? Always. That's the joy of live radio, right? It is. It is when we're using internet technology. Let me just grab hold of this link because it's quite long, but you'll definitely, you'll definitely get a good signal on this, I think. Let me just, so sorry everybody about that. I missed the rumble chat when it's not working. The rumble of the M62 near me is easier to decode, so it's very witty and sarcastic. Thanks very much. Okay, I don't know what to do about it. It's out of my hands. Unfortunately, it's rumble crumbling. What do you think? Is rumble crumbling? We don't know. Are they under attack? Yeah. The rumble sound is really breaking up. Let me send this back. Isn't it? That's the joy of the radio. Yeah, that's shockingly bad. Okay, so, right. Anybody that's in the chat and getting this and you want to actually hear the show, always a bit of a pain, why is rumble falling over? I can't be being picked on so early. We're not even a big show yet. I mean, we know it's all coming, right? Oh, a better time. Yeah, but okay. Well, look, I'm going to keep rumbling to rumble. I mean, I could sort of turn off the stream to delive, but I don't think it's a delive issue. I haven't got anybody lit. Look, I'll just do that. I'm going to disconnect to the no people that are listening on delive, which is not surprising because I don't really promote it. It's more like a backup channel, really. I'm going to turn it off. Let's see if we can do that. You see, famous last words, I said, just then, no technical problems. Why did I invoke the gods? It appears to the demons of the internet. As rumble straightened out, is it? Are we getting better? Yep. There we go. Well, no, now it broke up again. There's no chat on soapbox, unfortunately. XO, no, we haven't sat one up yet. Don't know where to do the chat. I miss it because I need your comments. You see, you feed us with your blinding insights and withering criticisms and observations, and they're not there. Okay. Well, there's loads of different ways to listen, but as I said, we've only got one chat at the moment, which is on rumble, and I picked it because we thought it would be resilient and good. It never makes for a good show, and you're just talking about technical issues, does it really? We're 10 minutes in, but never mind. Okay, well, look, we'll keep it running, let's see if it settles down. I don't know, but I've had a lot of internet problems personally for the last two or three days, actually. Have you been experiencing trouble? I had several servers go bottoms up. Let's put it that way the other day for no reason, and they were experiencing terrible sort of connectivity problems for no reason whatsoever. You know, sorry, someone's mute rumble and use audio on soapbox. You could certainly do that exo. Yeah. So of course, if nobody can hear me on rumble, they can't hear me saying these things, can they? But exos kindly put that in. So if you are listening, if you want to listen to the show properly, you'll get it through on radio soapbox.com, and you'll get it on WBN324, put the links in there and global voice and head on over to paulenglishlive.com. All the links are there to get through, but you can still use rumble for the chat. I am looking at it. I never listen to it on rumble myself because otherwise we get feedback and all that kind of nonsense. So if you want to keep typing in there, there we go. But I guess it's not going to hold anybody's real attention at rumble. So look, we'll just carry on. We're going to have to carry on. I'm sorry about this everybody, but I don't rumble yet. Anyway, George, where were we? We were talking about neon benders and owning a diner and having a really good time in America, weren't we? Back in the 1950s. Yeah, and it's a lot of people's dreams like homesteading, owning a restaurant can be some of the most laborious work. I mean, people work their behind off. That is a tough, tough job. But it is quite rewarding, you know, owning your own business, but having a restaurant is just especially in this day and age with inflation, you know, people are counting every penny and going even for if you swing by McDonald's, you're going to spend $10, $11, $12 just for one meal, everything's through the roof. So shout out to all the people who do who are in the restaurant industry right now. I can't imagine how difficult it is all the hard work, the long hours, and obviously with the hyper inflation, just interesting times, I'm sure. I mean, is it really fair for McDonald's to call their product to meal? I don't know whether that's actually... No, not at all. I know they do, but it didn't seem kind of right anymore, really, does it? I mean, you just hear all these horrific reports about it. And of course, the I don't know, every time I start with one of these sorts of slightly emotional things, I have to sort of plug him as I stop it. But one sees, I saw one the other day, again, another sort of directive issued out of what's left of the cranium of Claire Schwab banging on about the whole of the climate thing and that it's human beings eating food that's causing the problem. It's almost... I mean, the fact that anybody would even believe this, but then, of course, their command of the media is so extensive that it creates this kind of wall of instantaneous agreement, or they couldn't possibly be lying to us about all this stuff, and this type of things are going on. And they were banging on again about having to cut down the food supply because, you know, the whole fact that we exist is the problem. I mean, of course, from a certain perspective, it's absolutely true. If you want to actually remove all the pain and anxiety from your life, don't live. But seeing as how that kind of defeats the whole purpose of the object, seem to be on the object of the purpose, depending on how you look at it, you know, we're dealing with a kind of sort of logical madness that would end up proving itself right, and everybody would earnestly agree. I mean, even before they started pushing this thing with the population stuff, which has been around quite a while, I've had conversations with people, even sort of 10, 12, 15 years ago, where they've said to me, "No, you've had similar things. People have said to you, oh, there are too many people on the planet." I've often said, "So you're leaving, are you? You're going to be better. You're better. I think you should do yourself in and help us all out." You fancy doing, "Oh, no, not me. I'm good. Really? Oh, okay. You've got some other people in mind who should sort of really crush their hold on life." So that's a common one. You must have had that. Oh, all the time. And I tell people often, if they've ever flown on an airplane, you know that there's lots. We've barely scratched the searches of living in not just this country, but the world. There's so much room available. And of course, the people like the Klaus Schwab's and the elitists that tell us there's too many people. They're not volunteering themselves or their family. They want the serfs, the minions to be the ones to take the walk on the plank. Yeah, I've noticed that too. I wonder why. It seems to be really rather convenient for them. And of course, they do refer to themselves as the elite, which is even more repulsive. Isn't it? It's just like, "Are you serious? Really? Come on. I'll take you down the pub and we'll get you clear, lad." But of course, you can't get old of them and get them clear. It's not possible to actually sort of do that. No. And the whole thing with it, I've had this whole thing with, I've mentioned it before, a few weeks ago, and it keeps coming back to me. The earnest zeal with which this shop assistant was trying to lecture me on the fact that it was really good to put plastic doors on the refrigeration units, because if we don't, my grandchildren aren't going to be alive. And literally, he was very, very intent about this. And there was no room for, would you care to consider a different viewpoint? That didn't exist. There was literally no sort of wriggle room in his head. I could tell from his body language. And the way he was doing the whole sort of thing. And yet, you know, there are these salient points we keep coming back to them. But radio is about repetition to a great degree to keep on reminding all ourselves, you know, what's going on. The Chinese have built 270 coal fired power stations. Good on them, I say, because I don't think he's making any difference at all. And yet we are supposed to stop everything. And so every single policy that is taking place is has got this insane mental perversion running through it. We've got to do this to save the planet. But what about the people that are on it? I says, if I know that it's they're mutually exclusive in their worldview now, there's just too many of you and we've got to get rid of you, you see, and they're just trying to find a really a way in which most people will, will actually participate in their own demise. And they seem to be having obviously some success in certain ways. Well, they understand the human psyche. They've, they've been wagging the dog for hundreds of years, go back to Jim Jones, right? He convinced hundreds of people to drink the Kool-Aid, which is where the term drink the Kool-Aid comes from. And they, you know, got millions of people to buy into the events of 2020 just through the power of the television. And they know psychological operations are more powerful than any physical weapon that any military has. I think it is. I think it is. I think on a, on a sort of, the more you sit with that kind of viewpoint, the more clear it gets. It's, it's not, it wasn't necessarily like a major lightbulve moment for me. You sort of go, Oh, yeah, the power of the media. But the more you look at it, the more you see how either restrictive or liberating it is, depending on what your point of view is. But it's certainly highly restrictive. I mean, because it's, it's setting the agenda for all thought. So people go, Oh, I've got lots of free choice. Yeah, within the parameters that they've given you. Do you want to think outside of that box? There isn't a box. Oh, I, I think we might be able to show you the edges of it. Come on. Do you want to have a go? No, I feel uncomfortable. Well, we feel uncomfortable too, but we really need to find out what's going on, you know. So yeah, they do. They really understand how to sort of players or certainly. But that said, there's less of us being played now that any other point. Sorry, I'm just still checking some technical things here. Someone suggested if you are on Rumble and trying to listen, so I can still see we're kind of under par with the audience, maybe refresh. I'll tell you what I'll do. I'm going to disconnect. I'm going to, I'm going to disconnect from Rumble and reconnect. Okay. So there'll be a little bit of a silence on Rumble. Here we go. Let's see if I just not be live with it. Let's stop that. We've done that. Now we're going to do it again. I think you did that before and the sound was okay, but it only plays for like 16 seconds and then it stops. I'm sorry, we're just getting interrupted and it's knocking the floor, but we've got to try and sort this out really if we can. Okay. So there we go. So I've reset that. Let's see if that's any better. Yeah, but it's a disaster. Really? I'm Rumble tonight. Yeah, well, maybe we do something else. I guess. I could do anything about it tonight, really. Not really. Still a mess. Yeah, is it? Mute, Rumble, and go to either wbn324.com, radiosocbox.com, radio.globalvoiceradio.net, w or gvtv.net. There's a number of places you can pick up the stream. So and the links are in the chat. Hey, Paul, this is great. You're like a sort of floor manager coming in with the with the tech advice. I quite like that. That's good. Have you got a guy like Paul? George? I don't. But I'm going to have to offer more money than you do and bring them on my side. I offer him loads. It costs me a fortune, doesn't it? It's absolutely ridiculous. I don't get anything done. I send him so much money and just to make these announcements. Wait a minute. We pay an egg. Do you? I bet they bloody good eggs. I bet they're really good eggs. I'm just going back to food and the diner and eggs. I so that the place where we is a place called the gun in Finland, I'm giving them a shout out of Finland is this lovely little sort of very old village in West Sussex. And it's where we go. And it's called the gun. It was built in 1619. So it's quite new for around these parts. It's a wonderful building and the food's fantastic. So not that they'll necessarily hear this, but certainly not if they're tuning in on rumble. They're not going to hear any of this. But they serve us so well and we have this room and it's like a group of people that are inquiring into things and have been doing so really as a group for about four years ever since the COVID things started. And it's a very convivial and jolly sort of atmosphere. It's a beautiful building. It's great. Why have you just had a look at it? Have you? Yeah, I pulled it up in the heart of West Sussex. Yeah, it's fantastic. It really is. It's sort of like it would take your boxes of an archetypical village country English pub because that's exactly what it is. And just over the road, there is a big house whose name I keep forgetting, but there's a very big house. I don't know if I've mentioned it here before, but there's a big house over the road. And I'm reasonably sure that when Charles I had been arrested at the Isle of White, which is not far off. So he ran off to the Isle of Wight and then Cromwell sent about 300 guys down on horseback to a bringing bag on the way back to London. They stopped over at this house, which is over the road. It's magnificent house. Wonderful. Barely occupied. Although someone that actually is part of the part of the little meter knows or new or may still know who owns it or who is in there. And we I keep on sometimes fantasizing that we should all just chip in and buy it and put up a big wall and live there. But it's quite a thing. So there's quite a bit of history. It's such a nice house. It's got its own chapel. How about that, which is in the hillside, which probably I've never been in it. It's not very big. Probably about 12 or 14 people could get it, but it's it's one of those things where I guess when you built your house, you built everything. You built your own chapel if you had the money to do it. And obviously whoever put that together did. So yeah, we have a cracking time there. It's very good. And if it was bigger, we would invite everybody there. But I think we can get about 14 in. And what we did this week, we turned the lights off at the end. And we just had this candle light. And I thought, Oh, it's time for ghost stories. But I hadn't brought any with me. But it was really like one of those sorts of little spaces. So there you go. Just an insight into my lavish luxurious life that happens once a fortnight, actually, it's my entire social life and I evaluate highly. So anyway, what was I talking about? We were talking about something sensible before I drifted off and started talking about pubs and things. I can't quite recall any of them. No, there you go. Well, that's it. That's Paul's paycheck. Yeah, Paul's paycheck. Yeah, have you spent it all yet, Paul? Actually, I know what I wanted to ask you, George, since now it's, you know, it's about five months since you were on. It's something like that. Hasn't been that long. I think it's just ridiculous. Yeah, because yes, I think he does. I think he does. I ought to probably go and check. I can't believe it when I looked at it's at least three or four months eggs. Someone's just mentioned eggs. Oh, yeah, eggs. That's right. Eggs. I get more my eggs. You mentioned eggs, didn't you? That's it. Someone I know why reconciliation mentioned eggs, because just before I got diverted, we were talking about your eggs and your chickens. We were getting onto that. And I picked my eggs up from somebody there for the absolutely fantastic. I had four eggs for lunch, which is the most I've eaten in one go for a long time. And they're so they're the color of the sun. Yeah, they're absolutely mobs. They are. I just go look at the color of those. So I had a lot of eggs, you know, all that lovely protein, but you must be, you must be swimming in eggs, if that's the right terminology for it. Yeah, we are. And we sell a lot. But to for, I mean, 18, an 18 pack for five bucks, give them away to family. And we use them for dog food. You know, if I grill a steak, we have leftovers out, you know, steak and eggs for the dogs, whatever's left over. It's just, it's just, and again, like, if you go to the store and buy eggs, their extra larges are smaller than our smaller eggs. We once every other day, we'll get a double yolk egg. It's normal for us. And chickens are the most amazing animals. They really are just amazing. They they become part of your family. Now, obviously, I'm talking about the egg chickens, not so much the meat chickens. They think we're their best friends for, you know, for eight weeks. And they're like, Oh, field trip, where are we going? I'd rather not tell you. Well, maybe they're great, but you can't get too emotionally attached to a chicken. No, you can't get too emotionally attached to a chicken. Yeah. Yeah, we don't give the meat birds names. Rumble audio appears to be working now. Just an update. Oh, well, we'll start the show again. Now, where were we? No. No, it's good. Yeah, it does appear to be working better. So, okay, refresh the page, a few times the sounds working again. Okay, so look, we better stop drop talking about this technical and I say all goes, just let us know if it gets really, really bad again. But generally, I think we're back on the way with it. So that's good. Yeah, no, the 16 billion of them on the planet, I understand. I remember seeing this chicken documentary a few years ago. It's a sort of number I wouldn't forget. So it's quite a lot, isn't it? It's more than two for every human being. And of course, chicken is, well, it's just chicken, basically, but 16 billion is quite a lot. And I knew someone who used to sell lighting rigs into the chicken farms over here. Okay. And he said, look, the conditions are not as bad as you think. He said, I know you get all this really, really heavy stuff. He said, but they don't live such a bad life. I mean, maybe the factory, hence, yeah, they do, but he wasn't involved with that. They were just putting up lighting, you know, some of these big sort of yards where they just run around, I guess, not 16 billion at a time. That's probably too many chickens, but an awful lot of them, you know, so, yeah. So that whole food thing, you know, of telling into the serious stuff, the whole sort of control of the food system, it kind of, there's a bit of me, makes me should have. There's another bit I get hysterical with laughter thinking that anybody could even possibly believe this. And then, of course, I bump into people in the supermarket who do. And it's really, that's the bit you were mentioning a bit earlier, George, about, you know, the psychological manipulation of people, courtesy of the media. And it's that, that's really the thing that we're still, we're still having to deal with, because, you know, the whole thing like with the banking system is because of their control of the media. And there was a quote made by his name's gonna, I'm looking at his face, and I can't remember his name now. This is happening a lot. I need to eat more eggs, don't I? An English guy over here was talking about the fact that, you know, that they can affect it, but they know what the newspaper headlines are going to be, because they own them. And if you're, if you're doing that like predictive programming, you can organize markets and this, that and the other. I've just sort of hit a point where you just think, lads, can't you just think of something better to do? Is this it? You know, you've got all this power, and it's just getting worse. There's possibly, I guess we have to assume maybe some other program at play, or maybe it's just to keep us in fear all the time, because we're much easier to control that way. And it's just more cost effective to do it a bit like you're looking after chickens, George. What do you think? Yeah. And I mean, look, there's a lot of facets to that conversation. I think it's important. We have a lot of farmers market in my area. We're more of a rural area, normally Thursday through Sunday, within 20, 30 minutes from where I sit, there's at least one, two, three farmers markets. Two miles down the road every Wednesday, there's an auction, poultry, you can get yourself a chicken, goat, cow, I mean, you name it, bales of hay. So that type of atmosphere is already a thing here. We depend on each other. Everybody takes, you know, we used to often are leftover eggs. We take five or six dozen eggs to the auction every week, come back and get our 20 bucks or whatever it is. But really, it's more work than what it's worth. But I mean, those people there, and especially here's the thing, there's a lot more things coming down the line. They've called just in the last 30 days, you can look up on the usda.gov website. In the last 30 days, I think 6.9 million chickens in the United States have been called, because, you know, if one chicken, just one chicken tests positive for bird flu, they have to call the entire flock, which is tough on these farmers. So there's going to also, there's lots of push for regulations. So when we order our chickens through, I think it's called McMurries out of Iowa, there's Hoover's Hatchery out of New Hampshire, I think, you tick. Do you want your chicken vaccinated or not? And of course, we say no. But there is a push to where that question is going to go away, and every chicken that is sold has to be vaccinated. So again, this is all boiling the frog. I think a lot of it is kind of fear porn too, to keep us worried and, you know, in that state of mind, and to continually to bring that bird flu and germ theory thing back into the forefront of your mind. So it's, and again, they're the masters of psychology. So everything that ever comes across the news, there's a reason for it. Yes. Yeah, there absolutely is. And you know, that thing of, it's like an abuse of the sort of Stockholm syndrome that they're engendering, you know, it really is, you know, if, if you, you know, the history is that we've decided that governments might be a good thing, although there's practically zero evidence for this. But you know, the sort of, the hidden mantra is, oh, yes, yeah, we've got to get somebody in to be in charge of these things. But the personality types that get in charge of the people that want to be in charge generally for reasons that we don't want them to be in charge for, which is basically power and control. And you know, what's up with you? Why are you like this? You know, that's what I'm like. I'm like some sort of naive country bumpkin. I'm sorry, I fail to understand what's good about anything that you're suggesting at all, particularly, of course, I think they've also had a lot of other additional problems, which is, from their point of view, there shouldn't really be problems at all, but it's because of their mindset. We've had, we continue to have technological advances, or certainly new technological things coming along ever since the Industrial Revolution. And these things that have come along applied correctly would be, could be, should be, ought to be a boon to just about everybody in many, many ways. But one of the points I've made before is if you and I and all of us become ever more self-reliant, become more sovereign in our life, i.e, we have the power to make the decisions about buying the chickens and getting the great eggs locally and dealing with farmers and all that kind of stuff, which would actually be a lot of fun compared to most of the drudgy office jobs that many people do, this kind of stuff. I know I'm being naive when I say this. I know there's a lot of complications with it, but we've got to draw a simple picture. Then if you and I are those people that go to Paul's diner and, or do go to the pub in the English village, that kind of mood, that kind of scene that we're after, why do we need them? Why do we need governmental types? Why are they required? Well, I would suggest they're not, certainly not to the degree that we've got them. And of course, many of the politicians that we would cite, you know, Ronald Reagan on a good day would, and he made some excellent speeches about the fact that government is the problem, he's absolutely right, and there's too much of it. So how do you reduce it? Nigel Farage, but hold on to your hats, everyone, because we talked about him last week, but Nigel Farage is saying pretty much the same thing in his speeches, you know, maybe Trump says the same thing, and maybe they say, because it's what we want to hear, but you're not going to get it, lads. We know that that's the best way to go, but you see, we can't be in control of you if you're in control of your old lives, and the pharmaceutical thing is a act of the same, isn't it? It's about treatment, not about cure, and now you're talking about vaccines for chickens, which I'm assuming the chicken farmer has to pay for. Do they have to get their hand in their pocket and pay for these things? Well, I mean, if I have, if I have to, I'm sure they do as well, and it's, while a dollar 10 may not seem like a lot of money to people, when you're ordering chicken by the thousands, that's just, and listen, these farmers, every penny counts when it comes to these type of things. So for sure, that would definitely affect them. Yeah, it would. And I mean, it's just in microcosm, you can see all the problems there, because I mean, if we were actually sort of sorting things out, probably would say, well, what's the most important jobs going, you know, in this thing that we want to build called civilization, we go, food, right at the top of the list, is it? Yeah, because if you don't have any of that, the whole thing will end in about three weeks. Okay, you want me able to build one? You want me to have a civilization if you haven't got the food sorted out? I always remember reading that thing in tragedy and hope by Carol Quigley, when he was talking about the industrial revolution, the agrarian revolution, and so on and so forth. So over here in England, they all happened in the right order, probably happened in the right order where you are as well, it's just you get, you get food started with the agrarian revolution, that's what happened. So you start to produce this food in England, what happened was up until the arrival of the plow or whatever it was, early 1500s, it took 24 men working on the land, no, it took 20 men working on the land to feed 24. So basically, 80% of your workforce was involved in providing food, growing it, livestock, the lot, everything. So that's quite heavy, and then these implements come along, and it got reduced down to about 16 and then 12. And all these people that were no longer working on the land, of course, they begin to form the merchant class or barrel makers or whatever it was. I mean, there'll be a whole bucket about this. But there's an order, so you have the agrarian one. And then here, we got the industrial one earlier than everybody else, because we, you know, what's his name in the steam engine? So off we go, we've got to jump on everybody for quite a while. And that's what kind of made for England at that particular time. But one of the things that Quigley was pointing out was that in South America, for example, they got it wrong. It went kind of crazy in South America, because they put transportation systems in first. They built these fantastic rail networks in the 1800s. There's nothing to stick on them, because they had sorted the food out on a local basis. Russia got it wrong as well, although there's a lot of political warfare taking place, you know, because they decide to starve the Ukraine. What is it with them in the Ukraine? And it's not the Russians and the Ukrainians. Another force in the Ukraine, as everybody here probably knows. But the Ukrainians have got it in the neck. And so they were starved in the Holodomor in the early 1930s. But the Russians did get it, you know, intentionally didn't care. They sank their assets into manufacturing and ignored the plight of the farmer, the Coolax, who they abused terribly. I mean, I'm assuming the Coolax made up the bulk of the deaths, you know, which are colossal. People don't really know about this, but it's absolutely off the charts. Is that stuff? So this warfare on food is nothing new, is it? It's nothing new? No, not at all. And that's something that I think as society has evolved, and like you said, the since the Industrial Revolution has taken off, and everything has become industrialized, there's been food has just been assumed that it's always going to be there. And that's why I mentioned earlier today, when 2020 happened, everybody was screaming that there was a food shortage. And I said there was there's no food shortage. There's a grocery store shortage, because we rely on other people to provide our food. And that is something that you can never ever just take advantage of. That's something that no matter if you live in an apartment or someplace, you need to make sure that you have some sort of food readily available to you. And I don't call myself a prepper per se, but if it hit the fan, I could feed my family for the next year easily. We freeze dry food, we store food, can water glass eggs, which is something many people may not know about water glassing eggs, you can keep them for 18 months. Freeze dry eggs, that's good for, you know, 15, 20 years. But again, the government wants you to be dependent on them. That's why, you know, we talked about how back in the 60s, socialists got together and said, hey, if we get everybody on welfare, we can collapse the system and bring about a new system where, which is basically universal basic income. And then everybody is, you know, our serfs to the government, and they are controlled. And if you, and these things aren't conspiracy theories, they're in black and white. And you're the first, by the way, you're the first person that I've heard mentioned the cool locks in a long time. And you hear of other events in our history books and on social media every day that claimed to have happened during the 1940s. But you never hear the cool locks, you never hear the hello or more. Was it the Kate and massacre and all these other things? Yeah. Yeah. It's nothing new, sort of using food as warfare. You see, universal basic income, it's really interesting. It's already getting a bad rap because people that see through it go, oh, it's, it's because it always comes with strings attached. These things, once the government gets hold of a good idea, it's immediately on its way to becoming a bad idea. It's not that universal basic income is necessarily a poor idea. I mean, there may be a better way of doing it. I mean, we're challenged in a way by, I think, by being able to produce so much, we actually can, we can produce so much, we could produce so much more if needed. The controllers don't want that because if you actually, you know, keep supplying masses of food into populations that have a tendency to grow quickly, like China, India, and Indonesia, where there's over 4 billion people right there. You'd be thinking, why are we doing this? I mean, I'm not against people living, but there is a good question. It's like, well, look, everybody can get their term, but do we need to all be here at once? I mean, do you need to all be on the planet at once? I mean, it's a good question. You know, I remember reading stuff by Buckminster Fuller, and he'd done some basic calculations saying the earth could support 50 billion easy. It was organized, right? If that's organized, right? And it could, it probably even more than that. I mean, if you look at, this is this thing about being told all this stuff and not actually working out with a sort of slide rule, not that anybody used, or a calculator, about how much square land every individual would have. I'm not arguing for colossal large rapidly expanding populations. I don't, it does, it seems abnormal. But then the very people are asking us or instructing us or coercing us or threatening us in an implied way to restrict our numbers are the very people that have brought them about. They're the ones that have amplified the numbers because they wanted bigger marketplaces. And this whole thing like free trade and open borders. I'm not for any of that. The argument that they put is, well, this is good for world trade. I don't care. I'm not interested. Why should I be bothered about that? What's that? The only people that are bothered about that are market makers, the gamblers, the stock market people, that's those are the only people that care about this. We need ever expanding markets so that we've got something to speculate on. Why don't you go and speculate on something else? Why don't you find something useful to do with your life? Well, this is very useful. I've got all these property and helicopters and everything. Yeah, but you're an idiot. Who cares? You can't take that with you. Really? That's it. I mean, that's, I think they get crossed if you don't respect them for all their money. We go, no, it's almost got to the point now, the more money you've got, the more of a crook you're bound to be. What was that thing? It's Tolstoy said that. Look, I've got all these Russians running around in my head today. But Tolstoy said, behind every great fortune is a crime, and he's right. Absolutely. He's right. He's absolutely right. And then he's just old dodgy. Yeah, absolutely. And all of these things that are being produced, by the way, if they really wanted to hurt us, China has taken over, I think much of it due to NAFTA and Clinton during the 90s. We rarely produce any of our goods in our country anymore. Everything is imported. We are good with intellectual properties and creating things. And then we send out those ideas to, you know, to be fixed by, you know, be built by Asians for two bucks an hour. I remember back during the summer of love, I call it in 2020, while our good friends at the BLM were peacefully protesting in all the cities around the country. They were peaceful, weren't they? Were they charming and peaceful and drew everybody's sympathy to their side? Yeah, they were great. Yeah. I want to save that clip on my thumb drive for my grandchildren, where that lady from CNN is saying most peacefully peaceful, most feet, try that again, mostly peaceful processing with like a Burger King or McDonald's burning behind her. Well, it's just the book that got carried away with the flame grilled aspect of the burgers and burnt the thing. It was just an accident. George, it just happened to be happening at the same time that the BLM riots were going on. They're not to be confused. It's just completely, you know, and it was a coincidence. Yeah, it's got nothing to do with it. They were very peaceful. Billy Silver writes, yeah, it was. Billy Silver writes here, he says, government forever dream up threats to the populace in order to give the illusion they are needed. Corrector Mundo, absolutely right. Yeah, that's it. That's absolutely right. They don't even, I don't think they even know that they're doing it. Maybe it's because they put such mediocre incompetent boobs in the political class that can be controlled that they actually do think they're doing an amazing job. They never stop back and look at the fruits of their labors, which are rotten, insufficient, silly and couldn't happen unless they were plundering the pocket of all the people in the nation. The whole, it really is a sort of parasitical spivs paradise, what we live in. It really is with all these covermen and, you know, men in ties and speaking properly because then you'll believe me because, you know, I know what I'm talking about. And, you know, they've educated everybody to not ask too many questions. Oh, you don't need to do it. You can trust us. Well, we can. We can trust you to cock it up. You come from a long line of people that do that. It's, but I've often said that, Billy, Mr Billy Silver, you're absolutely right. They have to do that. Whether they're doing it consciously or unconsciously doesn't really matter. They would have to keep doing it. There has to be a drama to suck you in. You've got, oh, no, look at this. It's always my entire life on the TV. It's got to be the same for you, the economy. Oh, no, it's always that. That's the turn of everything. What? Oh, yeah, we can't do that. No, we can't afford it. These muppets that they've got running around are going to be, one of them is going to be elected either Sunac or the other one. Idiot, I was going to call him. Starmer, Keir Starmer, I was getting muddled up and thought, no, it should be sheer drama or something. We should rename him something. But Keir Starmer, these people, even when they're having their little debates, they're not solving anything. They're just, it's the same discussion that's been going on for hundreds of years. Oh, we can't afford this. But apparently we're going to be able to afford to have a war with Russia. Oh, yeah, we can afford that. How does that work then? Oh, look, another shiny object. Oh, yeah. Hello, Paul. We were just talking the mic there. Yeah, well done for stepping in. Yeah, another shiny object, absolutely. And it's not a Keir Starmer. It is Sir Keir Starmer. Is it? Is it? Oh, yes. Sorry. Yeah. Look how disrespectful I am. I'll be one of his subjects. How dare you? We're making King. Well, I know. Yeah, I know. Well, I did. I wasn't so harsh, but the team that knocked on my door, I didn't mention it the other week, but there was no point really, but they were labor. And of course, I didn't bring it up with them. But the thing to bring up is, so how do you sit with Keir Starmer protecting Jimmy Savile and not allowing him to be prosecuted 30 years ago? No, what? I mean, apparently, their local offices are around it. They have got a cat in Hell's chance of getting around here. These people would vote conservative forever. They don't even know why they're doing it, but they always have and they always will. And it's just one of those places. So that's what they're going to do. But so they're kind of the Ron Hopeful party around here on the Labour party. I don't mind. It could easily be the other way around. But some of the imaginary nonsense that the journalists are writing or this will improve this. They're all fools. It really is that case of the blind lead and the blind. You know, maybe, you know, if we are one eyed Kings, if we've got one eye, we are going to be Kings around here, even one eye will do it. Because everybody else has got none, it seems to me, or very, very few people have got any eyes to see, you know, and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, we can answer rights. Sorry, I'm sorry, George. I'm just going to read, he says, I think the XORites, I think the Georgia Guidestones were very sensible. Exo was probably referring to the 500 million. Yeah. Well, you know, I think there's a part of all of us that say, well, yeah, come on, do we have to go completely mad on all this producing children stuff? And then they say, well, we can't stop people producing children. Maybe you can't. Right. But the way that I think you probably could. I mean, you can't do it overnight. I'm not trying to be nasty to anybody. And I actually, of course, I support families. I think everybody should have children. I mean that. I think, because it completes, you know, people, Oh, no, it doesn't, I don't need them. Yeah, yeah, of course. Well, there's all this out in the other, but it's very simple. You and I wouldn't be having this conversation, nor would anybody be listening if all of us at some point had not been children. We were all children at some point. And without them, it seems to me there is no point doing anything at all. If you're not going to have any, go, well, we're just stopped now, because there's nobody to hand anything down to. There's no knowledge to spread. There's no lessons to be learned. I mean, it's it's tough and all that kind of stuff. But I guess people like you and I think we could be just doing far, far better. And I know we could be doing far, far better than this. But there's so much there's a disruptive force that's intentionally disrupting our ability to settle and become strong. Because I think in strength, we invalidate their entire ideology, which is communism. Communism is just invalidated by wealth. It's just made to look stupid. Because it is stupid. It's the, it's the, it's the ideology of envy. And what a church shall say, sorry to quote, something like the quest for impossible equality, which it is, it's impossible. It's just, it's an idiot ideology. And the way that they reference these people, oh, no, it's really well thought through. It's not. It started off wrong. It's just got, it's just a clever way of being wrong. That's all it is. Still wrong. Still what we don't need. Very odd. And the other portion of that is as far as the communist portion of it is they want us all to be the same. They don't want anybody to be ahead, anybody to be behind. And they started putting that here in the United States in the 80s and 90s, where they stop keeping score in sports and you participated. And that's, they just want, you know, everybody to be the same, right? And that's something that they have, right used to be, you were told, I was told, and I'm sure you were too, the harder you work, you know, and those things showed off, you worked, you studied, you did things, and you were rewarded for that. And that's not, that's not the case anymore. They want everybody to be the same. And in many cases, especially with DEI in the workforce today, it doesn't matter how hard you work, you're not going to get that promotion, because now it's based on who you sleep, the color of your skin, more than it is what you've done, which is like, I think one of the persons mentioned in the, the chat room, the, the communist manifesto was being played out right before our very eyes. Yes. Yeah. But when you say that about the monies, I'm always reminded of that line from the life of Brian, where he says, he's addressing the crowd, you don't need me, they're all in unison, we don't need you, you're all individuals, we're all individuals, then there's that little voice at the back that just goes, I'm not, I just thought he put the greatest gags ever, I'm not, I'm not an individual, but you neither, I'm trying to be equal with everybody else, but I just can't stop not being, it's impossible to be equal to anything else. It is simply not possible, you can't do it. Why would you, why would you spend time, effort, and energy? It's like trying to press something into a box and hold it in there, when it's not designed to go into a box. Oh, no, be neat and tidy. Yeah, but be dead. It'll be neat and tidy, all right? Oh, there's plenty of that, but it'll be dead. There won't be any life left. So it is a war against life is communism. It's a war against life, as nature has ordered it under God's laws. It's absolutely a war against life. It's ridiculous. And of course, you know, when you meet Marxists, it's not that they're unintelligent, far from it. Some of them are very, you know, intellectual with their approaches, but they've still, you know, they've been intellectual about a thing that doesn't even need to be addressed. It's ridiculous. How do we make this work? Oh, well, I'll tell you what we do. Just forget all that. Forget it. And go and raise some chickens. You'll probably learn more about life as well, actual life, because you know, chickens are actual life as our human beings. Why do you do that? You know, fancy giving it a go? No, because I guess they don't get positions of power. They can't disrupt. And it is like being a disruptor. People, you know, there's probably aspects of all our personalities that thrives a little bit on being slightly disruptive at the wrong time, because you get more attention that way, don't you? Even if you get a few insults held that you can probably cope with them. So maybe, you know, like when you were a bit of a slightly tantrumy child, not that you were George, I'm sure you were well behaved all the way through. And Paul, of course, was probably an exemplary young person. But I did kick off every now and again, not too much. And I know that the audience were probably very, very well behaved when they were children, because, you know, they wouldn't be here otherwise, really, would they? So there's all that. But, you know, when you look back through history, why is it that these, these nations continuously fall to these evil governments over and over again? Is it simply psychological operations? Is it that our people inherently kind, and they allow these things to happen, that they believe that patriotism is adhering to the government no matter what? Is it a combination of all these things? But you just look back through history, even the governments that claim to be the good guys, when you really pull off the mask, like a Scooby-Doo episode, it's Karl Marx, right? Yeah. I mean, he's buried up in London, Highgate Cemetery, the oaf. They've got a mental oaf in the cemetery. He's an oaf. No, he's not. He's highly clever. He worked all these things out. He wasted his life, but he could afford to waste it because he sat on his brains in the British Lending Library being paid by the Rothschilds to concoct this garbage. But that's, you know, as we've mentioned before, communism is the ultimate expression of the banking system. That's what they want. They want communistic states because then they can effectively love the income taxes on the entire nation. I always come back to the banks. I'll try not to because it is tedious. Someone said the other way, Paul, banking is not sexy. I went correct. It's not. Are you telling me he's grinding daily interest rates? Isn't sexy? Come on. I got a big giddy when you said that. Actually, I got quite excited. How about you, Paul? Did you get excited? What do you think? Compound interest rates? Hey, come on. Giddy. Positively giddy. Absolutely remarkable invention. Yeah, compound interest, of course. And as we've mentioned here before, well, maybe the eighth wonder of some abnormal world. No, it was. Who was it that made that claim? Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. Those who understand it will earn it. Those who do not will pay it. There you go. Yeah, I think he's been a bit, you know, wonder is not the word I would use. It's the eighth something, sin of the world or something. I don't know. What are the others? Seven circles of hell, is it that Dante? Is it seven? I can't remember. Exo, right. In the chair, this is tracking through your sort of line of research. She says, that was me banking and now eggs. I'm on a similar path. It looks like that. We started with banking. We go, actually, to hell with that, we need chickens. You do, actually. You really need chickens, don't you? Absolutely. You do. I'm like the forest dump of chickens. I like scrambled eggs. I like hard-balled eggs. I like egg salad, egg sandwich. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a scrambled. I can't leave the scrambled alone, and I'm always disappointed if I overcook them. I'm very, very careful. You know, if they cook too quick and they go, "Dry, oh, there's nothing worse." My dad was terrible at that when I was a kid. I go, "No, I'll get mum to do it. It just couldn't cook. He didn't have a sense about it." He was distracted, probably thinking about wood or how to repair something, because he was always repairing the house and stuff. When it came to things like that, it didn't go well, and there's nothing worse than dry. I think it's a big disappointment. Lashing's a butter, never goes amiss with scrambled eggs, it seems to me. All that salt and pepper, oh, I'm getting quite hungry, actually. Thinking about it. Better move on to something else. What have we got? We've got scrambled. It's very important, right? Very important. Scrambled. Absolutely. We've got boiled eggs. You've got boiled eggs, poached eggs. You've got sunny side up, over easy, over hard, and eggs are a key ingredient of almost everything, whether you're making bread or whatever you're baking. You think about really where we would be without chickens. It don't bear thinking about, does it? Where would we be? Cannibalism might suddenly look quite attractive if there were any chickens around, I might be terrible. My own eggs are basted. What? You troublemaker. What do you mean by that? You cook them on a grill, you have a lid, you have a lid, you put the eggs on the grill, and you start them falling. You don't have to flip them, you cover them with the lid, and you splash a little bit of water in there, and the steam cooks the top of the egg, and then you just scoop it up, you put it on a plate, and toast, it stops it up awesome. Do you put a little oil or something in the pan, or butter, what do you burst in? You can put a little something in it to give them from sticking, but what you do is you have a lid that is smaller than the pan, so it's confined around the egg, and then you just pop the lid off, and you put like, oh, I don't know, a half ounce of water in there, and then you put the lid back on, and this huge, huge cloud of steam rises above the pan, and as soon as the steam is gone, you just take the lid off, and you just scoop them up, and you put them on a plate. They have a white skin on top of the yolk, but yet the yolk is completely uncooked. It's cool. All right. Okay. I got it. Yeah. I think the ones I like best, the one the way of cooking the egg that has generally been the best, but it's a bit messy, is poached. I love poached eggs. I say messy. I used to have a little poaching sort of tray, and I don't know what happened to it, but I used to have them when I was young, and I absolutely love poached eggs on toast. I want them now, but I've gone to Scramble because it's easier to do, but poached a bit more faffy, more washing up, you know. I haven't got a slave yet to do the washing up. I'm looking for one, but yeah, poached. Of all of the ones, it would be poached. It used to be my perfect breakfast when I used to eat sausages, which I don't anymore really, but poached eggs on toast with a sausage and some mushrooms. That was it for me. That was I didn't need any more. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. We're at the end of hour one. Actually, we've we've run past it. We're just the one minute past nine here in the UK, one minute past four US Eastern time. You're listening to Paul English live here on WBN 324. We're going to go music and a couple of little other tracks possibly. So here's something that Paul sent to me completely unsolicited, and I'm worried, but we're going to play it anyway. Okay. And then we can talk all about it after it. So we take a break and we'll be back after these couple of tracks. Except, of course, it's, oh, I know what's happening. I always do that, don't I? What's happened is, there we go. Hang on, just a minute. Gosh, one day, one day, it'll be less embarrassing, but probably not. Here we go. See the politician, see him kiss the baby. See him help a little old lady cross the street. See the politician. See him making speeches. See the politician. He says he can save the nation. He's the link between salvation and defeat. See the politician. Oh look at him kiss the baby. See him help a little old lady cross the street. Does the baby know that he's dying? Somewhere in a jungle far away? Does the little old lady know her grandson's crying? Because he's best friend that you pay. Does the politician know I don't believe him when he tells me that peace is me? Oh the politician's lips are moving, but I'm of those friends all I hear. See the politician. See him push the button. Hear the children screaming as the bombs explode. See the politician. See him kiss the baby. Hey sweet. Attention all listeners. Are you seeking uninterrupted access to WBN-324 talk radio, despite incoming censorship hurdles? Well it's a breeze. Just grab and download opera browser, then type in WBN-324.ZIL and stay tuned for unfiltered discussions around the clock. That's WBN-324.ZIL. The views, opinions and content of the show host and their guests appearing on the world broadcasting network are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of its owners, partners and other hosts or this network. Thank you for listening to WBN-324 talk radio. Paul English live. The only radio show that gives you hard-hitting commentary like this. They're rumbler-ledding a stream here and this is a reasonably civilized well-managed show I think, but you never can tell. I only have to mention donuts or something like that and the account could go. Did someone say donuts? How cool would it be if you could wiggle your nose like that bewitched lady and make a donut appear? I can't snap my fingers like him bewitched or whatever or wriggle my nose. Fair enough. I suppose we should get back to the show. Paul English live right here on RadioSoapbox.com. And welcome back and on Radio WBN-324 I hasten to add as well. So that was that was a jingle. Somebody sent me that, George. I got that jingle sent to me. Do you know anything about that? Whoever does those jingles, you're not paying them enough. That's for sure. I don't think I'm paying them anything actually. Oh, dear. I certainly feel awkward now and all English and looking down at my feet and getting dressed and everything. But this is true. You know, so if you don't know, George did that jingle for me, which was fantastic. And I decided, George, that maybe we should call you George of the jingle. I don't know whether you think about that. That's that's the area. It's awesome. Yeah. So that you're now George of the jingle. Have you the jingle ticket? Well, we've still got an hour to go in the show. So brace yourself. There might be some really stinging critical sort of commentary about you queuing up. No, you should be fine. So that's really good. And some very witty comments in the in the chat. Someone wrote about Eric. I don't think Eric's around. Eric's a regular contributor, Eric von Essex from Fockham Hall Radio. You may have heard him come in. And someone said that they thought that Eric would crack a very rude joke about the fact hunter. And I'll leave it to your imagination, but he would. And just to let you know, with Eric, I'm on with him on Sunday evening, this coming Sunday, he wants to do a kind of an election special. So that's 8 p.m. same time that we started tonight, although we started a bit later, what with trouble on rumble and all that kind of stuff. But I'll be with Eric for a couple of hours on Sunday evening, eight or 10. We will run that on rumble, if we if rumble will letters. And I'll put a notification of that in my telegram group. So you better pick that up. And we will no doubt run it over radio soapbox as well. So that's possibly something to look forward to, although I don't know what you all do on a Sunday evening, probably sitting around doing something else, possibly playing bridge or discussing literature from the 18th century or whatever you do. So, but yeah, if you want to plug in, we're going to, I think, I think Eric wants to talk about the general election or something that's coming up. And then this show next week, we're going to do, I think we're going to do a general election special, but we'll probably only talk about it for about five or 10 minutes because I don't know what to say about it other than it's very, very silly. But if we could get live results coming in, actually, I don't really want live results. If anybody wants to call into the show and provide completely bogus results and just make things up, that would be great. Be much appreciated if you call in and say that a frog has worn an eaten East or something like that would be far more interesting and probably more relevant to people actually here in the UK because we're not really too fussed about what's really going to go on. Because as we've said before, it doesn't matter which party you vote for, the government always gets in. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So anyway, are the folks over there as worked up as they are over here? No, I think they're indifferent. I mean, well, I don't know. Maybe they are a little bit. The story that was running around about eight or 10 days ago was that they were expecting the turnout. That is the number of people who could actually be bothered to get off their bottoms and go to a polling station and cast a vote or fill in a form or whatever to be very low. There's a general sort of a to disgust. They say this every all the time, it's always true. And also discussed with the political class as a whole. One of the modes that seems to have been given more prominence is that none of them, of course, are worth voting for. But that's been true for decades, really. Again, it all depends what the mainstream media wants us to believe, whether it's true or not, it's difficult to tell. Because they can literally mold your opinion by saying, everybody says this. And everybody agrees that everybody's saying that. So instantaneous, they all start to agree with it. It's quite a power, actually, when you think about it. It's colossal. There's sort of shifting as people. I don't know what to really say about it, Georgia, than neither of the candidates are English, of the lady, they're not English. I want an Englishman. That's it. Really? I'm not interested. Yeah. Well, there's a Scott, a Scott, an Indian, or wherever he's from, or he's a Pakistani or whatever. It's got nothing personal against them. It's just, you know, the English, of all the people, Amanda, they'll say, you moaning English, Nini, which they probably would. But I'm not aware that we've got any sort of institutions where we have a say in anything much. The Scots have got their assembly, so do the Welsh. I don't know what they have in Northern Ireland. I don't pay too much attention to this sort of world. It's rather repulses me. But the English, we got nothing. Oh, you're just part of the whole thing. And that's kind of, you know, what goes on. So they're all, you know, they're yes men, aren't they, for the real power? Sure. What are we supposed to say? That's what we've got to get across. I mean, and maybe we do. I don't know. Sometimes you just go, you know, to help with it, let's go find some chickens or something like that. But, you know, just to retain your sanity for a bit, it's bitterly sort of disappointing, he said, pathetically, it is. It is when you actually stop and think, you know, with a few minor adjustments, most countries could be amazing. The main minor adjustment is the removal of all these politicians. They're quite minor, really, not in their own minds, but they are. And of course, the bankers then would lose their foil to work through, because it is a bit like a good cop. Yeah, and the lawyers. And they've got, we've got to get them out of the way. But the only way to really remove them is possibly not physically or in any stupid talk like that. But for people's brains, like mine and everybody else is to work accurately with regards to what's important around here. I think what a movement, I say, I'm interested in a political movement, not in a political party. I think I'm interested in a political movement. I mean, Patrick, who is on here from time to time, you know, clearly defining quite Aristotle saying that politics is whatever you're contemplating, whatever you contemplate. And this is, it's a very good, I've thought about it a lot of that, because if you think about what we're thinking about, you go, well, we're thinking about this, these are the things that we say are important that need to be addressed. And there will always be these issues to be addressed, thankfully, because we need something to do, don't we? You got to get up on a morning and go, Oh, I've got to fix that fence. I've got to fix those chickens, or whatever it may be. There's always going to be something to do. You go bonkers if there wasn't. But it's, I think it's just lining them up and getting the priorities a little bit better than they are. Right now, the priority is everybody that runs the bank comes first and the rest of you come second, I'm going, I don't think that's, no, we're not into that. And if it goes wrong, you'll all go off to war and get shot and die. No, we don't like that either. Do we have a saying this? Well, we'd say you have a saying it because you're in democracy. But actually, when push comes to shove, you'll find out that you don't. Bye. It's a bit like that. Absolutely. And Paul, you know, I'm sure he can probably echo the sentiment. Over here, it's just pure WWE going into tonight. People are, you're either for Trump or you're a communist and all the things that are going down today, CNN will implement a two minute delay for tonight's debate. And oh, it's going to be, you know, it's just they got people at the tip of their hand. It's watching a comedian or a magician that has people right right on the line, and they're just reeling them in. People are just so worked up about this. And tonight's debate watching two old guys who are merely actors on the world stage, they'll get probably record viewership. That's how manipulated the people are. Oh, you're having one of the you're having a TV debate. Are you what time does that kick off then? What time's that start? What is that Paul nine p.m? I think it's nine p.m. But but it's all about extremes. Radical extremes. There's there's no common sense. There's no logic about it. It is you are either radically left or radically right. And there's there's no no meeting in the middle. And people got to know these are just two sides of the same coin. There's the two wings on the same bird. And it's all BS. But anyway, I did want to give a shout out to reconciliation. That song request was from him in the rumble chat. And it was awesome. Thank you. As a good turn. It was awesome. I didn't even tell you what it was. It's called the politician by Lou Rawls. I'd never heard that before, but that was that was pretty good. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks reconciliation for that. That was a jolly good tune. Yeah, it was. It was really good. And well, so you've I bet you're getting you got a popcorn in you're all looking forward to the the presidential debate then tonight. I mean, can Biden what do they do? Do they pump him full of things or something? What? What was that? It's just ridiculous. It's all ridiculous, isn't it? That's another conspiracy theory. Like some people that Jim Carrey in a mask or, you know, the other rivers he actually has been he hasn't been seen in a week. So, you know, they're pumping him full of all these drugs and and everything else. But I mean, literally, the guy you watch any of his speeches, he can't put together any sentences. So if it's to expect him to be able to speak for 90 minutes, if he does speak coherently for 90 minutes, then they either a certainly have on something pretty good, which obviously only certain people have, you know, in the general population have access to, or I mean, who knows that the world is certainly a stage. Right. Oh, and they're going to they're going to black out the debate for most people. And then after it's over, they're going to tell us how it went. Oh, yeah. Okay. Good. Oh, well, that's good. Oh, they're only being thoughtful, Paul. They want to save you time. Like, cut all the freely bits and just give you that be good. I'm sure they'll give you an honest summary. There's nothing to worry about. Of course, especially when the White House when the White House secretary comes out and says, Joe Biden is the most intelligent man I've ever met. Have you lived in a cave? Have you only talked to fish your entire life? It doesn't say much about the press secretary, does it? I mean, what's the IQ there? Then that must be very, very low indeed. 58. Yeah. You see, this is a all these little sort of concomitant problems that come with fundamentally breaking the laws of nature. It seems to me this is obviously the big icky topic, but I've mentioned it before and I can't let go of it. You mix races. It doesn't matter which ones they are in the same space. And what's happening to us now will happen to any group of people that undergo that because nature just won't have it. It's as simple as that. It's not, you see, the intelligent people are not intelligent enough is my view. They're bright, but not bright enough. They don't work out that there's a lot of people that aren't as gifted, possibly intellectually as them, to understand the nuances of world history and how we can organize things and that it's their fault for not trying out enough. No, people are at different levels and they're not right or wrong for being at different levels. I mean, when we were all eight, we were at a certain level of comprehension. Of course, some eight year olds were off the charts. They were born astonishingly bright and could see things before the rest of us. Well done to them. That's great. It's all part of the joy of life. You know, it's if it's if elites go hostile towards the rest of the people and that's kind of what's happened. You know, when we talk about civilizations going down the toilet, the idea of an aristocracy is it seems to me it's a natural occurring event. I know we've got very negative connotations about it now, understandably so, you know, because it's been chewed up. But if you were to take, say, 10,000 people, you're going to say, well, it turns out that there's about half a percent of them. It's about 500 of them that are ridiculously bright. Really? Yeah, yeah, they are. Do you know they are? Well, I'm not bright enough to know, but I know that they're there and they're organizing and doing things and it's been incredibly helpful. But it's when there's some kind of a separation and they begin to view everybody else as a burden, which obviously seems to be the culture that has been developed up there, wherever up there may be. But and then it gets rotted out. People lose their sort of familial blood ties. And I think it's very important that that doesn't happen. I think this is why race is mega important. I think it's sort of such a basic thing. And of course, we are being trained to not talk about it because if you're a white man, you are obviously there for a racist. Okay. So and that doesn't help either because you just throw everybody into an emotional frenzy and tantrum about it. Get that racist and extremist and all this kind of stuff. No one can actually even consider what the fundamental truths are. There's nothing right or wrong about it. It's just the way it is. You don't see in nature, you don't see seals happily playing with killer whales. Do you? I certainly I don't know that I'm out there looking for it. But I doubt if there's much footage of that, right? You go, Oh, I'm a killer whale. I'm not going to eat you to that. Oh, that's great. Can we just get on? Yeah. But then one day, I'm put hungry now. And that's, you know, it's nature. And people go, it's very cruel. And I go, I tend to agree with you. It is, I think. Well, it's pretty cruel at times, you know, some mediocrity. And unless they can exploit it. Now, and this is a shout out to all the parents out there that may have exceptional children. If you have an exceptional child, don't let anyone know. Because what will happen is that child will be taken and it will be evaluated. And if that child is truly exceptional and the government thinks that they can monetize that intellect and that they can use it for their benefit and gain, that child will have no life outside of a lab. And when their work is done in that lab, they will within a year or two following their retirement or leaving the position, they will magically come up with Alzheimer's and will not be able to remember their own name. Because the government will destroy them because they know too much. Now, the ones that are not intelligent enough to be taken by the government and used for their hands, those will be pigeonholed into, into absolutely insignificant educational programs and they will be dumbed down to be brought down to the level of the average populace. They're too intelligent not to be a threat, so they have to be dealt with. If they can't dumb down, they'll remove them from the face of the earth. Latt or global? Either way. Yeah, I think that's pretty close to it. I think it's pretty close to it. I mean, the hierarchy of the education system with what a university is at the top, I don't know, maybe research institutes after that. It doesn't really matter. We get the idea, right? People go on to university. I mean, they used to because they were classed as having intellectual qualities that would be really, they would really benefit as would the nation indirectly by them going to university. When I left school in 1978, at the age of 18, only 3% of everybody that left school went to university, 3% in England. That was it. And that kind of made sense, did to me. I mean, I didn't know that figure at the time. I didn't want to go. I wasn't intellectually bright enough to go, but I knew people in my school that were, and they did. Some of them went to a place like Oxford and Cambridge. They were about three or four in my year. When you saw them doing mathematics and stuff, you went, "Oh, I don't know what's going on at all." Really, I mean, you must remember you bumped into people like that. They exist, right? They come out of nowhere in England. Somebody in a council house, which is a way of describing someone as being near poverty, but they can just suddenly, you know, individual and spring are poor, astonishingly gifted in certain ways. It's wonderful in a way. There's a nature throws this up, and then you're right. The education system is identifying them through their years at school, and they have to grab them, I suppose, in their mentality. They don't have to at all, but they're thinking, "Well, if we don't get this brain working in line with what we want," there's a possibility it might go off there and spend five years in a potting shed and come out with some invention that's going to do with it. I'm being silly, but you get the idea. No, you're being absolutely cool. There'll be another group of brains over there that are better than the brains they've got. They all escaped us. Why didn't we call this generation? So that's what they do. It's like a harvesting thing. It's to harvest their mining people for a particular resource. And of course, it's all sort of right-brain stuff that they're doing. ADD and the drugs to treat it, it actually causes manic depression. It completely screws with the brain chemistry, and then they can't concentrate on anything but the shiny object over in the corner. They're brilliant, but they're drugged because they're not brilliant enough to be an asset. It's ridiculous. I really love this. There's plenty of great examples of people who they've taken out. Look at Stanley Meyer. Here's a guy who invented the water fuel cell, a car that could run on water across country. He got a phone call that some Belgian people wanted to invest in him, and he went to lunch, and he had to drink a cranberry juice, went in the parking lot, and died right in front of his brother, and he turned around, and those people were going, they killed him, because he was a threat to the petroleum, to the oil industry. The same with the top shooting in Buffalo. That guy was another fellow who invented a water fuel cell, and he was one of the people who was shot and killed at that shooting, but that was just a coincidence too. Many of the people who are recruited by the three letter agencies, they end up going to a school called the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. If you look at that list of alumni, many of these people have gone on, including Trump and Elon Musk and many other people who are graduates of that school who go on to be in actors on the world stages, I'd like to say, and then see if they don't go along with it. Like Paul said, that stuff will happen to you. Yeah, well, you see, I mean, the question, one of the questions I have, I mentioned it here before, how do we protect good people that would want to serve you to stop them being got at around the back of the bike sheds afterwards, when we've all gone home? This stuff goes on. Yeah. Maybe we're over exaggerating it, but it's what happens, and it's always happened. It's not new. There's nothing new. And it's not just people who create things, it's people who are wise beyond their years and go against the agenda. Look at Bill Cooper, what they did to him. And he's just one of many examples of people who got on a stage during 2020 as well, and those couple of years after people who spoke against the Merck sales rep who came out, and then she died, young lady in her 40s. I can't think of her name, but all these people, whether or not you create something that is a threat to the banking industry, to the oil industry, or a threat to the agenda, they will take you out. And the new, you know what, the news cycle goes on. There's an uprising and people upset for 24 hours. And then the next thing happens and sadly, life goes on. And we never stop an account, a demand accountability for these things. And that's why we are where we're at. You're absolutely spot on with that. Yeah, it is. It's very frustrating. I know, I mean, I don't know, when you first stumble, when the internet was getting going, you know, in the 90s, and you start stumbling across hitherto hidden accounts of things like people creating engines that run on water, and then you go, that can't be possible. But then you go, all right, I'm just a minute, it's got oxygen and hydrogen in it. I said, Oh, now, oh, right. And then if we were to think about, let's think about it right now, this very moment, it's completely possible to do that. It's obviously possible to do it. We've got so much advanced technology that we're not allowed to use all this kind of stuff. So there's the energy problem solved. That's it. It's all completely solved. Now we can run every engine you want on water, there's a lot of it around. And those engines don't pollute the atmosphere. No, do they contribute CO2 for the ninnies that think CO2 is a problem, which isn't, we need a lot more CO2, we're CO2 deficient. And so everything's solvable, except for the one problem of the people that don't want us to solve things. They don't want us to solve things. No, we don't want you doing that. Well, we ain't got a job then. Why do you want this job? We love it. Why do you love it? Well, so I mean, that's why do they love it? Did they have an emotionally barren upbringing? Probably it seems to me how they're treated like vermin by their parents that they're emotionally cut off, they're abused. It seems to me there's something hellishly insane about that as if the real natural fruits of life are denied these young people and they end up becoming monsters because they come from a long line of monsters, you know, absolutely. And that's one of the things people can't get over when you try to have a conversation about what really happened on 9/11 is because they can't accept the fact that some people don't have that switch in their brain. There's no way they could do that. And that's really us trying to get these people over the hurdles is they believe there's just no way someone could do something like that. But the fact is they don't think like us. They're completely different people. Yeah, they are. I can understand why people, George, don't want to get over that hurdle. I really can. I get it. It's extremely miserable when you first take these things on board, isn't it? Some of the aspects of this information is exhilarating. It really is. And of course, it bites you deep. And then that's it. Once you've looked through the door, you can't close it. Some people try, I'm not going to look at that anymore. It's in your head, mate. It's gone. I say you've stepped through onto the next square on the board. There's no going back, right? So you can stop your life at that point and stop inquiring, which of course is a menace. But that that's part of it. I understand absolutely why people would pull back. Because, you know, if you think back, well, I do sometimes, not a lot, because it's kind of sort of, there's not much point to it. But I think about the sort of level of naive buoyancy and happiness I had as a teenager. Did I have any money either? So I remember all the grumbling about that internally. Can't do this. I can't do that. No, I can't go out tonight because I don't go any money, all that kind of stuff. But that sort of sense of exuberant positivity about the future, you get stripped of that when you see this. Because you realize that many previous generations have been stripped of their futures too. And that we've probably solved these problems a thousand times over in the past, except for this force that keeps on separating us from the fruits of our own labors. And it might not be me, I'm not gifted in that way. But you know people that are, and everybody needs a support network. And one of the things about sort of a race is you will pop up people that are exceptional. And they come because the entire race exists. They don't just sort of turn up out of nowhere. It's like a big support system. And so this is why you get people like Beethoven, just turns up and go, what's that? Where'd that come from? That's amazing. What you wrote this when you were deaf. Yeah, I did all this when I was deaf. Not that I've ever had a chat with him. What mind later on? But these astonishing things that happen, things of great artistic prowess. And of course, if you look at say modern art, not that you should, it's very, very bad for you. But if you look at the whole sort of flow of the 20th century, it's to communise art. You're all equal. It's all equally good. It's not, it's not. You haven't, most people haven't got any talent. And they haven't got the courage to say to themselves, I'm a bit talentless at this and laugh about it. And now they take it deadly seriously. And you're being rude to me for not allowing me to display my terrible pictures in public. We don't want to look at this. There he is. Hello, Paul. Can you hear me? Hi, Patrick. I did see your message ever. I was just intentionally ignoring you to make you get chomping at the bit. Well, you're talking about bad, bad artwork. How about bad singing? I think Barbara Streisand might fit in that category. But that's just my opinion. You've just turned up with a Barbara Streisand thing going on. What's going on, Patrick? You're talking about bad art and how everything has to be down to the common denominator, the lowest common denominator. I don't know. Well, he gets driven that way. I think Barbara Streisand was better than Bette Midler. It wasn't, it wasn't. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I guess. I was, I was watching something about what was I saying the other day? Oh, there's all these railway, well, there's one railway. There's a guy called Michael Portillo. He used to be an MP, highly questionable guy. His father was Spanish. His mother was English, I think, or something. Anyway, the reason he grew up in Britain was that his father left Spain during the Spanish Civil War. And on this particular episode, he was taking Spain's Spain's through train. He was taking trains through Spain. Spain's through trains. Quite interesting. So he was doing that. And they get to Gernica, where there's this massive painting by Picasso called Gernica, which some of you may know of. Yeah. And the woman there was sessions. Yeah. And this one was, I think this is the most important painting of the 20th century. I said, it isn't. We don't care what you think. It absolutely is not. It's not. And of course, most of that, it's a terrible event, the Spanish Civil War, yet again, something downplayed. And the thing that we are supposed to absorb is Orwell's and Hemingway's point of view, which is that, you know, those fighting against the fascists were the good guys, but this is not true. That's why it's in the United Nations. There'd be no United Nations without the Spanish Civil War. Of course, absolutely. And I think that period, you know, people don't know the hideous things that took place with in the in the nunneries and things that they're off the charts. It's just like the Bolshevik Revolution is that hideous, unleashing of kind of a insane animalistic fury by people who just resent the fact that other people have done good things, tried some crazy. That's certainly been an aspect of it. But Picasso's an interesting one, because if you see the things he did when he was 14 and 15, the lad actually had a lot of talent. He really did. I mean, he could actually do proper paintings, as we would say, you know, the thing that you get mocked for. Oh, that's just traditional stuff. Yeah, you mean the stuff that's actually got skill in it. And that's worth spending some time considering that stuff. That's what you're referring to. And then he goes off and just basically draws all this junk for the rest of his life. And he basically said it towards the end. There's a quote from him, something like he said, look, they just kept asking for more and more outrageous stuff. And I guess he was getting paid for it. So he produced it, but it's junk. And there's a guy over here called Henry Moore, a sculptor. And he's venerated for all this sort of modern artistic stuff. It's garbage. I'm just an I'm just a Northern Philistine when it comes to this stuff. I know art and I know what I like. I'm a bit like that. And the thing is that the old stuff that is astonishing in the skill that puts it together, always takes your breath away. It always takes your breath away. And the modern stuff does nothing of the sort. It makes you want to actually have a cigarette and go and do something else. It's only held up by the absolute rivers of verbiage that they spew out to try and justify. It's like huge books are written about. It's trying to convince you that it's got any merit. You don't need that. You just look at a thing and you know straight away, you have a feeling around things. And if they're not seeking to bring beauty into the world, why bother? Seriously, why bother? Oh, no, this is to get you to think about that. I don't really want to thank very much. I've got better things. I've got an appointment on the toilet tonight rather than thinking about your crappy poems or your crappy paintings, but you know, there's a word for it. It's called my Mises. My Mises, it's the imitation of the real world as displayed in art. Right. Okay. Well, it's a good word. And there's a lack of beauty. There is a lack of beauty. And I think I mentioned here before, there was an English philosopher called Roger Scruton, S-C-R-U-T-O-N. Good job. Eric is not here because there would be more jokes flying around that. But Roger Scruton, he's no longer alive. He passed away maybe seven or eight years ago, maybe a bit longer than that. And he used to teach over here. And I think at Harvard or Yale, very high up, and he had a whole series of TV sort of shows. And one of the best ones ever, I've mentioned this before in previous shows, and you can probably find it somewhere online. And it's worth watching every couple of years to remind oneself. It's called Scruton on Beauty. He wrote a book called On Beauty. And it's just fabulous. You'll be crystal clear by the end of it about what art really is. Because he starts it off. He's in the Albert and Victoria Museum, and he's talking to the camera. And he said, "If we were to go back in England a hundred years, we'd go back to the late 1800s, and you were to speak to anybody," he said, "from the high in the mighty," I'm paraphrasing here. He's not his ear. "You know, from the high in the mighty to the man in the street, to the working man, and asked them, what was the purpose of art? What was it for?" He said, "Everyone would have told you the same thing, beauty." It was to bring beauty into the world. And people said, "Well, how do you define it? Go on, stand in front of something beautiful, and you will know." Because it doesn't require language. I mean, we use language that we have to the experience of it. You use language to try and describe it, or to convey it, or to enthuse somebody else. It's worth your while going to that gallery and having to look at that stuff, because I think you'll feel really good about it after you've seen these things. Because you've given access to the visions of the artist as they have seen things, and it sparks it off in you. It's just amazing. You know, if you can be humble enough to say, "Wow," because either you look at these old master paintings and you just have to go holy, moly. It's incredible. Literature with writing. You can represent that in book form. And that's also another art form, like those old Russian novels like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, and just how they paint a picture of what life was like at that time period they're writing in, and represent it. Yeah. I wonder how many people actually read those things these days, not that there's a chart anyway. It'd be very difficult to know. I mean, I think that obviously I like the writing of the late 1800s, early 1900s, a lot. And what we're talking about this yesterday, Patrick may be in a side conversation. I think part of it is to do with the fact that during those times, television had not been invented, movies had not been invented, the phonograph and records had not been invented. You either read a book or a newspaper, or you went to the theatre, or to see a classical orchestra, or the opera, if you could afford it, which most people couldn't afford the opera. And even if I could have afforded it, I probably wouldn't have gone because it kind of, I like my art, but I don't like two things mixed together at the same time. But then I am a bit ignorant of opera, so. But that's what you would have done. So more time was available, and therefore the writing reflects that. Of course, people get a little bit bogged down with all that descriptive stuff and level criticism about it. But once you get into it, it's very strong in the mind. And I think, I remember reading something that the CIA had said, that of all the conditioning methodologies available, reading is the best one for them. In other words, if they can get certain themes embedded in fiction and novels and stuff like that, and people read it, they actually read through it. The act of reading it is the most you sort of take it in at the deepest level. And I guess part of that is because you are choosing to go and turn the next page. I like this, I'm going to read the next page. I'm going to read the one after that as well. In fact, I'm reading all of it. So there's a sense, whenever you finish your book, there's always a sense, a minor sense of accomplishment that you go, oh, I just spent a couple of weeks going through this monster, or whatever it was, and getting to the end of it and acquiring, hopefully, some good stuff as you go. So anyway, I don't think there'll be any discussions about that in your political debate tonight, will there, you guys? I mean, yeah, I was just going to say that our readers should be leaders, and our leaders don't read, it doesn't seem like it, or even our newscasters, or the alternative newscasters, it's just like they don't seem to take the time to look at things and analyze it properly, and have the patience for breaking things apart. No, they don't. And understanding, and really, it's like a treasure of magic on your doorstep is a book, if you pick the right ones and read the right stuff, it's incredible. You know, what's the name, the woman, the Harry Potter series, it seems ridiculous, I'm saying this. But in those films, there's one towards the end, because I ended up watching most of them, because my lads were young, very young, they were infants at the time when they were coming out, and of course, you could say, "But Paul, you were teaching them about Satanism." No, we weren't, we were just watching the film, I know there are themes. Yeah, yeah. JK Rowling, who's done some good things, particularly on the trans thing recently, yes, you know, I don't know quite how it's going for her, but she's absolutely spot on with all this nonsense, you know, these people run well, and they need to be treated as such, and that's that, there's nothing else to discuss. People don't want to discuss it, sort of barking mad, but in one of the, I think in one of the scenes towards the end of one of the latter films, the chief Dumbledore, the chief, the chief head of the school, Dumbledore, by the way, is an old English word, which means Bumblebee, that's where it comes from, I just know if you didn't know, so there were Bumblebees and Dumbledore's, it was an interchangeable thing, it's basically a large B, I suppose. Anyway, he says something like, he says, "I think words are our most inexhaustible source of magic," and I believe that is the case. Not in the sense of magic being an oppressive and terrible thing, but there is a sort of, there's something that almost happens in between the words, in the gaps, in the spaces, and the fact that we can, here we are, we're not even seeing one of them, we don't use video for this, right? We're using words, we're sending them up and down this thing, and as we're talking, little movies are getting triggered in our heads, and I guess in the heads of the listeners as well, there's little you filling in all these gaps, and it's why I love this medium more than any other for communication, just the sound, because as a listener, you are drawn, whether you're lucky or not, if you maintain listening, you will begin to exercise that part of you that imagines and conceives things in a particular way, and I always remember my mum banging on about, oh, I do miss the old radio plays, why, mum? Well, you had to say, you said, I remember when we grew up, this would be around the radio in the 50s, the 40s and the 50s, when she was a teenage and stuff like that, and she said, you know, we'd all sit round after supper, and we just have the radio on, and there'd be a light in the corner, and of course, I'm, she's telling me this, I'm feeling cozy, because I want to be there, you know, with a fire roaring, and we're listening to some detective thing, and it's all quiet, all six or seven of them, because she came from a large family, all very quiet in the room, listening to every word, there's something quite magical in that, it's not the sort of thing that we do, everywhere, it's so noisy all the bloody time, including me, but you know, so all these, we have to, I think, to some degree, if you want those, you have to sort of consciously now recreate them, although of course, back in the day, this was the natural mode of being, you know, so, so there is this, there's something magical in that period, and the books still exist, but of course, I guess if people don't read them, or don't have a yearning to sort of read those sorts of things, then their, their force is being, you know, depleted at somewhat, a little bit. Paul. Paul. One of the platforms that partners with us on the show we do 60 days a week, they have a number of video channels, and where they just do static images, or new stickers, or whatever, but they do audio, they're essentially radio, and one of their most popular channels is called Storytime, and that channel plays old time radio programs, and it forces people into the theater of the mind. Whenever one of those programs plays, there can be 50 different people listening to it, and 50 different people will have a different impression of that story, because they have filled in the gaps with their own history and experience and intellect, and there's something for everybody, and I think that's what you're talking about, it's the theater of the mind. It is, it is, and I'm sorry to interrupt you a bit, Paul, but let's, let's stay on that. But George has to go, he's, he's got to go and see to the chickens or something, and maybe that's a euphemism for something. So George, it's been great having you, fantastic. I know you gave me a heads up that you might have to leave after a little while, but it's fantastic. So it's been wonderful having you here. What are you off to do? You've got to tell us now, because we're all curious. Oh, I've got to get ready for the debate party, and I got to put up my Trump signs out front. You're having a party? Is it really? No, of course. I got all sucked in, then I really wanted you to be having a party. I didn't know quite why it would be like goodness. Couldn't imagine watching that, but no, I appreciate you having me. It's always, and we got to do a double shot today. So I appreciate it, and it's always good to catch up with you guys. And thanks for having me. It's great to always chat with you. George, it's wonderful. And just a shout out to everybody. George is now on radio soapbox every Thursday. Same day as this. He's on UK time five o'clock till six o'clock for the hour, and then we come on at eight. That's in UK time, but in US Eastern time, midday to one p.m. for George. We're here three p.m. to five p.m. US Eastern time, but George, you're always welcome back. And I'd like to, I obviously want to know about what's happening after the debate. You'll have to come back and tell us all because we'll be moderately, possibly not interested at all. Yeah, I'm very interested to see what the script writers have in store for us. Yeah, yes. Wonderful. Fantastic. OK, George Hobbs, the fact hunter and your website is the fact hunter dot com. That's right. Isn't it, George? Yes, sir. Yeah, fantastic. So I had on over there, and all your archives of all your shows and podcasts are there and everything because you've been at this for a little while, haven't you? I don't want to embarrass you. I know it's been 38 years. You've been doing this or whatever. But not quite. But we've been at it for a while, and we'll continue to do so as long as big tech allows us to, I guess, right? We will. Yeah. Yeah, rumble, rumble trouble aside. We will keep on doing that. Wonderful. George, fantastic. He will. Yeah. God bless and see you soon upon. Yeah, we'll have you back here at some point soon. I'm sure we will. Wonderful. Thank you, George. Good night. God bless. Thank you, guys. God bless you. Bye. Fennell, George. Bye. I was thinking about the rumble issue, and I think the common denominator, there is OBS Studio. I think the audio and OBS is having trouble. Maybe you want to check that later. Maybe. I don't know. It's OK. Yeah, we'll maybe have a look at that. So if you've just come in, we've been a little bit light on rumble tonight because we started off with about 15, 20 minutes of trouble, rumble trouble. So we keep on looking at those things. The main reason for having it is for the chat room, to be quite honest. I guess you don't really need it for anything else, because we're certainly not using video. But I also chose it really to try and get the show out across the rumble marketplace. Although I don't know quite how all these things work. I do really, but it's the amount of time, the marketing and the sort of trying to create awareness of shows. It just takes time, even with the internet. It really does. But anyway, it's been pretty lively on the chat recently, even though I haven't been reading anything out, dear chatters on rumble. There've been a lot of stuff going on there. So we've still got about 12 or 15 minutes to go before the end of the show. So that's great. And just to do a bit of station ID, you're here listening to Paul English Live on WBN 324. We're here every Thursday, 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. Eastern, 8 p.m. to 10 p.m. in the UK. We also go out over Freefall Radio South Africa. We go out of Global Voice Network. We go out over Radio Soapbox. We're on rumble, sort off a bit today. We're on D Live and we'll get on to anything we can. We're not proud. Anyway, where there's a stream, if they want us to make a sound on it, we'll be happy to do it. So be in touch on that one. But yeah, no, yeah, the beauty stuff is very important. I mean, it's a theme really on this show because we've addressed architecture and what's happening there. And I've noticed more and more people now talking about brutalism all over the place. I mean, maybe you notice it, but it's been in my craw for years, this kind of stuff. But again, it's a result of this communistic mindset. All the buildings in Eastern Europe, when it was under communist rule, just end up looking like boxes. The mentality is the mentality of people that hate life. And that's how it's written. They hate it. And they hate anybody else having a good time, it seems to me, and they hate beauty because it reminds them of what insignificant worms they are whilst they're running around claiming to be gods. It's just embarrassing. It really is. They don't build it to last. They build it to destroyed. Yeah. Well, the banking system dictates that, doesn't it, Patrick? Because you can't have, if you put buildings up, they're going to last a thousand years and we could, if we build them out of stone, how are you going to rebuild something new? Although Andrew Bridgion. Now, that was the name that ran out of my head. Andrew Bridgion is this MP over here, who's actually said some very courageous things about COVID and several other things. And there's just been a recent interview with him, which I just watched a few minutes of. It's about two hours long. But he'd been taking someone around his constituency, which is in, is it Leicester East or Nottingham? I can't remember now, someone would know, but it's in the sort of middle part of England. And they're putting up new houses. And you think, oh, they're going to be bad. Apparently not. The interviewer was saying, he said, I've been looking at all these houses. He said, and they're just marvelous. He said, they look like houses that were built 100 years ago. Of course, my ears breaks up. I thought, wow, that just sounds in other words, they've put effort into things. I was out for a little walk this morning because it was a, it was a beautiful day today. It still is actually, but very warm, a lot of wind. It was like being a big sort of hairdryer down here, because it gets very windy on the coast. And it was one of these blustery days, but very hot air. And I'm walking along down this little path, and they've been putting up a new brick wall. No big deal, right? Just a brick wall. But it was a big deal because the wall had been done in a creative way. It had these little turrets on it. They, they created a kind of motif of bricks every sort of 10 yards. And then they had this undulating, it wasn't a flat wall at the top. It was like a rollercoaster. It went up and down. It was like, and the guys were there doing it. And I said, fantastic work. And they were really chuffed that I said that I could tell. I said, that is a really great bit of work. And they went, thank you. And you know, people need to know when they're contributing like that sort of stuff. And it's great that they got a chance to do that, because other builders have just told go there and put that box up. And I want to shatter them, stop putting it up, blow it up, because they keep doing it. We don't want this. This is rubbish. But you know, yeah, they're not built to last. They're built to be turned over, turned over, you know, regularly and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, I like, I like looking into building techniques. And I know in, in your neck of the woods there, you use a lot of old techniques like what wattle and dog. That's the term that a lot of people. Yeah, there are in certain parts of building. Yeah, I mean, if you build in certain things, places called the green belt, your buildings have to be in line with the historical building practices. So there are still guys that do this and thatched roofs and that all the thatched roofs look fabulous, but they have to be replaced every 15 or 20 years. So you have to budget for that, because it's not cheap. You know, so but they do look great. And all I remember my mum and she wasn't alone again, you know, we'd go down to Cornwall, where Maleficus is from and place and they'd see these sort of fashion. Oh, I'd love to live in that because this is something homely about it. Explain that more fully. No, I don't want to. It's just homely. I like it. That's enough. It really is enough, you know, people have to sort of talk. Even the material. The materials like, yeah, there are codes that you have there and there for a good reason, especially restoring those old houses, they'll use quick lime instead of cement. The reason being is it lasts forever, but it's a softer material. And then people start repairing with the regular hard cement that is harder than the stone that's, you know, it's harder than the stones that are building the thing. The mortar itself is, you know, that lasts, but the stone itself or the bricks end up being eaten away as a consequence. It's those old techniques and just the simple nature of it and just building with materials that you find in the area rather than importing gypsum board and just, you know, metal. I mean, these are effects, it seems to me, Patrick, of this centralization of power and therefore the centralization of culture and therefore, you know, the removal of global culture or flat earth culture for people. I don't know what upset anybody. So actually I do. I love upsetting people. We all do. Don't we really secretly? We think it's fun. But yeah, I mean, here in England, for a long time, really up until the middle of the last century, probably things in the in different regions of the country were very different. They were just there was like a different culture every 50, 60 miles. You certainly get different accents every 50 to 60 miles all over the place. And that still carries on, of course, but the cultures would be different. The buildings would reflect historical building design for hundreds of years. This is how they build them in the west country and this is how they built houses in the north of England because they'd be building it with different materials. I mean, up north where I come from in and around Yorkshire and the villages, there's all this fantastic stone and granite and all these really heavy sort of stones. And of course, once you put one of those things up, it could be extended for a thousand years. Easy. It's just fab. I never thought about this when I was a kid. You know, it's not really important, is it? But you look at it and you go, ah, that's why that castle's still there, because it was built well and it was built out of this sort of material that's very good at dealing with English weather, which is basically a lot of rain and stuff like that. And you had a piece of people. Yeah, they don't have that together. That's right. That's right. So you've got these local cultures and they and you knew you were in someone else's culture and it would be different. And since there's a sort of phrase, you know, in England, you're not from these ear parts, are you? That kind of thing. I'm only 20 miles away. That's what I meant. You know, from around the year, everybody's a bit sort of precious about their own sort of parochial domain. And it's fun. That's what brought all this sort of distinctive these distinctive sort of little cultures all over the place, the people in it, because the place is not big. I mean, we thought it was, right? But then you look at the rest of the world and go, Oh, yes, this really is very, very tiny comparison to everywhere else. It is an England's not even the main part. Well, it's the main part of the of the island, but you know, it's I don't know, 60% of the landmass, maybe Wales and Scotland together are actually bigger than England. I don't really know. But all that's been lost. But you know, this emphasis on the decentralization of things, I think is part of, in my mind, this nascent political movement I've got in my head, not on a political ideology. I don't think it's anything about that. I think it's just about striding back to the good that has been wastefully cast aside to be replaced by completely plastic ideas that are junk that could only spring from the orifices of bankers. And who are idiots, because they're surrounded by so much wealth, but they want it all converting into money, and they want all of the money, and then they can tell everybody what to do. And because they know better, and they don't know better, and everything's worse, but they can't see that, because they're in love with themselves, because their narcissists here end up to listen, something like that. You know, so I don't know, how do we get rid of them? Do we get them to just sit down and shut up and go to that room in the corner and don't come out for 50 years, something like that? Duct tape. Duct tape. Yeah, how much you got? We're gonna need a bit. We're gonna need more duct tape, Paul. Yeah, something like that. Do we have a minute for a comment from Global Voice Tower from the Radio Ranch? Of course we do. Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, let's just have a look. We're gonna end here on WBN in a couple of minutes, aren't we? What time are we at now? So yeah, we've got about two and a half minutes on the main thing, but we can over run on certainly on soapbox, we can end on GVN for a little bit if the conversation's rolling, not a problem with that at all. Yeah, 'cause we got a comment very quickly, let's jump on in. Yes, Paul and Paul and everybody, thank you so much for the show today. And I just wanted to ask you a quick question and your art discussion got me going because I'm an artist. I agree. I saw Gernica and wasn't very impressed, but beauty, beauty, would you agree with the statement or disagree? Is beauty because it belongs to the eye of the beholder and I yield? Yes. Well, yes, to me. It's a great question. Well, I appreciate that because I think beauty does belong to the eye of the beholder and I do love the great art, but I think there is some modern art that is beautiful, but it's far and few between and I don't know, my blood's flowing right now because I want to just keep going, but I think I'm going to stay there and I just really appreciate the discussion today and bless you, Paul and Paul and your guests and have a beautiful day. Many blessings. Thank you, sketch. I think that no, that's great sketch. The evaluation of talent has evolved to money and a person is talented if they can find an idiot with more money than brains to buy what they create and that's about what it's all about. Yeah, I have one more comment since thank you, Paul, for 20 seconds. It is indicative that people wander their money through really bad art I use. Yes. Let me wrap up here real quick. We're going to carry on with the show. We're leaving. We're leaving right now. WBM, but we'll be back next week by for now. Gosh, I didn't watch the clock this week. Did I not watch the clock? I got carried away with that question. It was a really good question. Anyway, right. Well, we don't need this music. So look, you can go away. There we go. We don't need that. So anyway, we started off. There I was, all cocky about it not being technically cocked up. I got it got cocked up at the beginning back rumble, but I managed to get my oil in and bugger up the closing out of the end. So that's not too bad. Rumble took a tumble. It did. We were rumbled on rumble. Yeah, we did. And the rumblers, the rumble grumblers. And yeah, they did. Stop it. Stop this. Stop it. It's getting out of hand. It really is. So yeah, anyway, we're still chewing along on radio soapbox. We're still chewing along on global voice. We're still chugging along on rumble for a little while. So yeah, always nice to talk about art, I think. I really do think it is actually. One of the other day I've got a lot of books with illustrations by Gustav Dorei. I've used one illustration, I think, for a show here, possibly one of the Dennis Wise shows a few months back. Anybody not familiar with Dorei's work, I would encourage you to get familiar with it. If you like illustration, it's quite, it's transportative. I don't know if there is such a word, but it does transport one. He illustrated the Bible. If that was it, we used an illustration for the Bible when I'd Christopher Sparks on as well with his illustration of the Tower of Babel. But he also illustrated a big Arthurian poem by, is it Tennyson? I can't remember. I've got a book of it now. So I'm a bit offish with a lot of things. But there's just wonderful stuff. There's also another one called Orlando Furioso, which is an old Italian epic poem, or prose poem, and the illustrations in that are quite amazing. You feel like you're back in this period. He evokes things. There's something about illustration. It operates slightly differently to photography. I quite like photography too, but I fall in love with good illustrations when they come about. I think the whole art thing is good. Yeah, that's it. I think that's kind of it for this week. Unless the conversation is going to pick up and run off, but I've not got anything much more planned for this week, except to repeat and say that obviously we'll be back next Thursday at the same time. But on Sunday this week, with Eric von Essex, who made a recent appearance in the chat and has probably gone off back to Fockham Hall to put the hounds to bed or whatever's going on. But I'll be with Eric on Sunday at 8pm UK time, 3pm in the US, and that will be on Radio Soapbox this coming Sunday. I don't know what it's, well, I'm going to just call it Fockham Hall for now. We might give it a different name on Radio Soapbox, like Sunday Night Soapbox or something, and feature Eric's show in it because the idea, if it takes, and if it's a good time of the week, was to try and make 8pm to 10pm on a Sunday. It's almost like a rotating cabaret radio show with people turning up doing their thing. So I won't mind hosting a few, but it's not quite like that. It doesn't have to be me being the host or the anchor all the time. We could have maybe even a rotation on that. So we'll see. It's obviously a bit of a half baked idea, which I quite liked, and we'll see. But we'll be on on Sunday. If you're in the telegram group, I'll put a poster about that then, and we will alert people accordingly, and getting the alert systems build up, which we are doing, slowly but surely, is obviously a great help because we all need to know, don't we, when sort of things are on. So anyway, it's going to be an election night special. I don't know. I don't think it's going to be too dull because every time I've done things with Eric, it's been a lot of grinning and a lot of jokes and me bracing myself for Eric's jokes. So I'm quite looking forward to it, actually. There should be a lot of incidents that they have the debate tonight, too. Yes, between Trump and Biden. Yeah, yeah. Oh, Eric's just corrected. So the show does have a title. It's called A Load of Ballots. This is a, this is a play. What a load of ballots. It's called. So yes, thanks, Eric, it is. Yeah, fucking whole production, what a load of old ballots. Absolutely. Yeah, we're not like that. Not like that, Eric. It didn't mean like that. So anyway, so yeah, we'll be around on Sunday doing things. So feel free to join us. And we'll see what we can do. I'll be in touch with Eric between now and then, and I'm quite looking forward to it, actually. So that's a Sunday evening gig for us here. And I guess that's about the size of it really, isn't it? I'll tell you what, I'm going to, I've got a little song here to play out with. I think I've got one. This is, yeah, let me, I'm going to have to reload it because it's, I knew it was Andy's show on Sunday morning to the line. Yeah, we do. So yeah, just to let you know, Andy Hitchcock is live on Sunday. Sunday's actually getting quite busy, really quite quickly. So on soapbox, Andy Hitchcock's live from 10 o'clock to 11 o'clock in the morning on Sundays, on soapbox, which is great. It's great that he's back doing things live. And then after that, we plug in with Reebo from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. with Sunday long live radio, which is always a good listen, always some good stuff flying around. I'm on there once a month, but not for a few weeks yet. I end up on the sort of fourth hour, which is at times exciting at times awkward and embarrassing for me as I forget people's names, because I'm a bit of a chump at times, but that was being fun. Then what do we do after that? Oh, then we hook up with a music show for three hours because it's just available. Mark Stafford's show, which has been going for years, all these old hits played through. Then, I don't know what we do from six o'clock to eight o'clock. Shelley has women's hour. That's right. So from six o'clock to seven o'clock, there'll be a bit more stuff. We don't know what it is. Then seven o'clock to eight o'clock, Shelley's on with women's hour on Sunday evenings, which has got some good interviews already. She only done two episodes, and the opening music's that wonderful jazz stuff that she's picked, which is great. And then this, this Sunday from eight till 10, maybe longer, I don't know. We're going to do a load of old ballots. Actually, it's just a load of ballots. I've added the word old and I'm getting carried away. So Eric's probably saying, no, no, that's not the title. A load of ballots will be on this Sunday, eight p.m. till 10 p.m. minimum. I think so. We've been in two hours. And who knows? We might be able to take calls on that. I could certainly arrange for them to come in if you want to call in and do stuff, which have been a bit quiet on the phone lines, recently. I didn't mention it today. I suppose I've got the habit, but it's always there. Anyway, I want to play here. We're going to, that Lou Roles track, by the way, was very, very good. Thanks for that. And what was I going to play? Something else I was trying to get a hold of. Oh, here we go. Yeah. So this is a political song from about five years ago. It's Bob Dylan's subterranean homesick blues, rearranged by Daniel Bostock, who's done some great stuff. And although some of the lyrical references are now out of date, the gist of it is pretty, pretty good. And he does some fantastic things. So this is Daniel, and he's, I don't know, I'm not bothered by his political dealings. All I know is he's scathing about the establishment in all the right sorts of ways. So we'll play out with this. Now there'll be a little brief word at the end. I think that's what we're going to do. And if you've not heard this before, it's really rather good actually. It's called UK homesick blues by Daniel Bostock. Come is in the basement, mixing of the feminism, label one migrants to vote them into government, slander all the white blows, cast out, chased off, professors got them brainwashed, saw us got them paid off. Look out, Brits, you're going to get hit. God knows when, but they're doing it again. Use the pronouns and safe space, looking for a new trend. The men in the grooming gangs, a shit tin, and the feminists are thrilled, and ignore the victims. Granny got beat up, personal back, took mommy's on the beat, cook money to your Facebook. Don't offend the snowflakes, let them play, party cake, cops will be on their way, orders from Theresa May, look out for it, you're gonna get hit. Walking no go zones, don't stop the shit post, better stay away from those who hang around with Owen Jones, keep her clean nose, watch the game shows, you don't need a name command to know which way the sheet folds. Grid girls, sex cells hang around with themselves, think well hard to tell if feminism's gonna sell, die hard, gee hard, they get back, wear a veil, spare gel, check in mail, get a house, and knock the hill, look out, Brits, you're gonna get hit by losers, cheaters, men on school, earth, they clamping down on tweeters, words that are hurtful to angle a miracle, don't believe the leaders, they walk the bandage speeches, oh get one, come from romance, no thanks, pay your tax, get stress protest, lied to buy the fake press, please hear a fleecing, white mail cyclists or racers, 20 years schooling and they put you on the day ship, look out for it, they keep it all hit, better dumb down the mountains, roll send them out to my pool, all is to gamble, lied to all the cattle, they blame it all on the rush and they want a new come, the crew covered up the jammy saddle scandals. And there we go, we're wrapped up for this week, you've been listening to Paul English Live here on WBN324 and radio soapbox and rumble and all those sorts of things, Paul, Patrick any final words before we say goodbye? We'll have fun watching the debates, Paul, Peter, I'm not gonna watch it. I will be watching it either, I have a good one. I actually only have like an hour to myself and then I've got another show tonight and then I've got a network marketing webinar that I will be tiled into tonight, so I'm going to be lucky to be talking about midnight, so I'll let you go, fantastic, been brilliant. Yeah, well I'll be busy all the way to midnight, I'll be in touch tomorrow and everything. Thanks everyone for tuning in on soapbox and on rumble, been great and nothing we could do really about the rumble problems at the beginning. We'll leave you with boss stock rolling on in his subterranean UK homesick blows and I'll see you guys hopefully next week for the UK general election special or something. Bye everyone, bye for now. [Music] Well hard to tell the feminism's gonna sell, die hard, gee hard, they get back, wear a veil, spare gel, check in mail, get a house and knock the hill, look out for it, you're gonna get hit by losers, cheaters, men on schoolers, they clamping down on tweeters, words that hurt, full to angle a miracle, don't believe the leaders, they want to ban your speeches. Oh, get won't come from romance, no thanks, pay your tax, get stressed protest, fly to buy the fake press, please hear the fleece in, white mail cyclists or races, 20 years schooling and they put you on the day ship, look out for it, they keep it all hit, better dumb down the man's roll, send them out to Bible, Alice the Campbell light to all the cattle, they blame it all on the Russian, they want a new come, the crew covered up, the jammy saddle scandals. [Music] See you all next week everyone, bye for now. And that does it for Paul English Live on Radio.GlobalVoiceRadio.net. Thank you so much for joining us, you'll catch us here every Thursday, 3 p.m. Eastern sharp. Sometimes there's an after show, sometimes not. Thank you so much for joining us, I'm Paul and I'm off to different things, not necessarily brighter and better. Thank you. Forward moving and focused on freedom, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.