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Raiders Play Most Complete Game of 2024...But...

The guys share their thoughts on Sunday's complete game from the Raiders in their 25-10 victory over the Saints. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:
16m
Broadcast on:
31 Dec 2024
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The guys share their thoughts on Sunday's complete game from the Raiders in their 25-10 victory over the Saints.

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And guess what? We're going to get you 150% sign up bonus from the folks at Bet US. That's right. You can get 150% just use the promo code YouTube 150. That's YouTube 150. Go bet your football where Mo and I bet our football. And that is, of course, Bet US great folks over there. We'll tell you a little bit more about them later. Scotko Branson with you, along with my co-host, that is Mr. Mo Moten. He is the senior NFL writer at Bleacher Report. Also, the Raiders columnist at sports.not.com, where you can catch my work as well. And you can follow Mo on x.com at Mo Moten, M-O-E-M-O-T-O-N. I am at LV Gully and the show is S-N-B today. Mo Raiders, they won two in a row, man. I mean, what we get to break up this team is they're going to be are they going to change minds with this? I don't know. But at least the Raiders have twice in a row now beat teams. They should be. I guess you could say teams that they should be. These are the two. If you remember a month ago, I told you these are the two games that they were going to win. The Jaguars and the Saints. Because as I said before, you put two bad teams on the football field and anything could happen. Now, I don't think the Raiders are a terrible football team. This is the team. This is what I expected them to look like when I picked them to win seven or eight games. But of course, they just went on this crazy losing streak. So it's skewed there. Their win loss record. But when you're going up against an injury real team with a backup quarter, back in another Raiders are also an injury real team with a backup quarter back in a sense. Even though I think it even comes from the start of the season. You're going to win football games when the team actually gives a plus F. A plus effort. And that's what they've done under Antonio Pierce. That's the one thing that I could say about Pierce is that he has his guys ready to play. Of all the saving things that Antonio Pierce can say to retain his job is we came to play for the most part for the entire season. He called out his guys to make a business decisions in week three. I get that. But even with the season loss and the playoffs out of reach, his team was prepared to at least give maximum effort. And that's the least you could say about this football team under Pierce. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you because when you said he had them prepared, I would disagree with the prepared from the football perspective. But from the desire to come out and play hard, they haven't lost that edge. And a lot of people say, well, they're professional football players. They should come to play blah, blah, blah. That's true. But you can see it around the league. You know, when you work that hard and things go off the rails and we've seen it with other teams, sometimes it just starts to devolve into people being really selfish and all of that. And I agree with you. I think that Antonio Pierce, the one thing you cannot criticize him for is keeping the folks in that locker room at least wanting to play for each other and play for him. Now, I don't, again, as you said, Mo, I don't think that that's enough to keep his job. And we'll get into that in a second. But the thing that I loved about this game, we saw so many of the things that I think have held the Raiders back in this game too. But we also saw why, you know, Luke Getzi was such a bad option because Scott Turner, no, I don't think he is a top flight A1A offensive coordinator in this league. But he is better. And we saw this. They came out with a really good, I think, plan against this and injury riddled Saints team. And that offense, Mo, I was so impressed with the ball control. Now, they couldn't capitalize and score the red zone or even when they got close to the red zone, a lot of four field goals, clearly. But I thought that their ability to run the ball, Mira Abdullah, with a career day, of course. To me, that was the best progress I've seen, I think, from that offense in quite a while. I said it about Beach Report Live. That's probably the best game the Raiders have played all season. And I just want to clarify the preparation thing. What I mean by preparation is when you look at the Raiders and they come out in their first two to drives, you said this all season, they even during their losing streak, they come out and they usually score within their first two drives. They are prepared to play. It's just that the attention to the lack of attention to detail and the lack of the ability to counter what the other team does was the biggest problem, which was a bigger problem than preparation. Now, I know the players complained about the scheduling of practices. But for the most part, you could say, for the most part, you could say that the Raiders were ready to play. Now, when's their poor execution? Obviously, like I said, couldn't counter some of what the other teams have due after the second third quarter, absolutely. Poor decisions made during the game, absolutely. That's a whole different conversation. But I don't think that beating two teams, two of the worst teams in the league, with back and quarter backs, one being a rookie of rookie fifth round, and that's a rattle or changes anything for me. But I'm not the one making the decisions. And I think that if the Raiders were to beat the Chargers with their starters on the field, because I think the Chargers are going to go for the fifth seat, simply because the way the Texans are playing at that fourth seat, I think if you're a playoff team, you want that fifth seat. So I think the Raiders are going to see the Chargers' starters on Sunday. If the fifth seat is up for grabs, because the Steelers will play on Saturday, and the Steelers do win, they're going to get that fifth seat. But let's just say the Raiders do see the Chargers' starters on Sunday. If the Raiders win that game to win through straight, I'm just telling you, it's not my fault, but I'm just telling you, it could sway Mark Davis' mind to say, look, we finished the season strong, because remember what Mark Davis said? He said he wanted to see progress about three weeks ago when it asked about Antonio Pierce and the team status. He said he wanted to see progress, and regardless of how the win looks, winning three straight after being what, two and 12 or two and two and 11, whatever the record was, is progress. If you end the season with the winning streak, no matter how it looks, it is progress. So that would answer Davis' call for progression. Yeah, and progress is progress, but how much is enough? And I think that beating two horribly bad teams is not to me. And yeah, if they were to beat the Chargers' starters, that would be a quality win, right? As of right now, the Raiders have only beaten one team with a winning record, and that of course was early in the season against Baltimore. So to me, beating these two teams, and obviously any road victory is a big one, even if you're playing a bad team. So I get that. I just think that it would be disastrous, but we have a caller later who talks about this, and I think it's people who lead on emotion often make decisions that aren't in their best interests. And I think that's exactly what Mark Davis did with Antonio Pierce last year, and if he were to do it again, I think it'll set this franchise back even further. A franchise that I don't think is going to be able to, now, could prove me wrong, get that franchise quarterback this season, and they're going to have to punt down the road again on that once again, and add into that a lack of coaching, I think of coach that can come in and turn things around. You saw, now, you saw what Washington did, right? With Jayden Daniels and a head coach, quarterback and a coach. Now, did they make other moves? Yes. But to your point that you brought me around on several weeks ago, which is the Raiders aren't, yes, they have a terrible record. They've played terrible football a lot this year. They are not a terrible team. There are some core players there that you can build around if you have the right coach if you're the right quarterback. And I just think, again, I just think that even if they beat the Chargers, if Mark Davis and Tom Brady, who I think will be heavily involved, if they don't think about how you upgrade, even at the coaching position with what you're facing in your own division, it could be very, very disastrous for this organization. So we'll see how it works. And that's the thing too. Mo, you talk about Antonio Pierce, and while he doesn't have the issues, not even close, I mean, it's the exact opposite that Josh McDaniel's had in the locker room, i.e. the players don't hate him. They have the same record. Josh McDaniel's was fired at a 9 and 16 record. That's the same record that Antonio Pierce has now, including his interim last year. And I mentioned beating two of the worst teams here down the stretch, as well as beating one team with a winning record this year. That's where, and I asked it on the post game show, too, Mo, which is I don't see, like, what do you see to your point about Mark Davis saying progression? Great. But honestly, no matter where you sit on Antonio Pierce, what could you say about him that says, yeah, he's the right guy. Here's what I saw in 2024, other than players liking him and not quitting, which I don't think is enough. What else have you seen that says, yeah, we should give this guy another chance? Nothing on my part. I've already said that. That's a rhetorical question for you. This is not going to change. This is not going to change my mind. Regardless of what happens, I'm not. And the point I made them, I beat your four at live Sunday night was you're trying to catch the Baltimore Ravens, Lamar Jackson, the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen. Can't see the Chiefs any repat your homes. And now Justin Herbert and Jim Harbaugh on the playoffs. And it looks like, if can't see, rest their starters, that the Denver Broncos were going to be in the playoffs with Sean Payton and Bonix, you're trying to catch those teams. If you're hiring Antonio Pierce, because you beat the Jaguar Saints and maybe, let's say they beat the chart, even if they beat the charges backups, you're not, you're not using those teams as a barometer. The barometer, the barometer is Bills Raven's Chiefs. You're trying to chase those teams. Now, if you're trying to hire a head coach to beat the worst teams in the league with a backup quarterback, then fine, you'll be happy with Antonio Pierce. But if you're trying to catch the Bills Ravens and Chiefs, and now the charges and Broncos in your own division, you should take your swing and try to find an upgrade. That's just me in regards to what happens. But as I said, I'm not the one making the decisions here. And I think the way Mark Davis has run this organization and now Tom Brady is going to be involved. But the way Mark Davis has run this organization, you can see the Raiders winning three straight and Mark Davis saying, you know what? I think Antonio Pierce has time to grow. I think he's just inexperienced. And this is just his first year. Let's see what he has in his second year, because let's remember, as I said, not too long ago, Jeremy Fowler hinted that Antonio Pierce is under contract probably for two years. So I can see Mark Davis totally saying, well, after these three wins, we'll give Antonio Pierce one more year. He has one more year. If he before he has one more year, we'll give him one more year and see if there's growth there. He was inexperienced. It was his first year. Let's give him a shot. I can see him saying that to Tom Brady, that will Tom Brady push back on that? You know, that's that's another discussion by a close as we'll never know about. Yeah. And that's the thing, too, is how much, and we don't know the answer to this, we're all just guessing because we have no details. And I don't know that we'll get many details until it starts happening. How much power will Tom Brady have? You know, is Mark Davis going to say, Hey, Tom, yeah, you got to get it approved by me, but I'm going to let you work with Telesco, Tom Brady working with Tom Telesco, the Toms, and you're going to come to me and tell me what you want to do. And then I'll ask you your questions, but it's going to be your decision. If that's the case, then I think there's almost no chance that Antonio Pierce comes back. If Mark Davis is heavily involved and wants to make the final decision, I agree. He makes emotional decisions, which have set this franchise back several times. We've seen it, both good and bad, right? So we'll see how it all works out, but either way, we'll find out here in a couple of weeks, I think. So we have that going for us. All right, we're going to take our first break. When we come back, we're going to get to a conversation I want to have with Mo on Brock Bowers. Wow. What a day he had in New Orleans. What a season he's had. I want to just put that in the perspective and talk a little bit about how it could have even been better. Well, how could it have been better? We'll talk about that as we come back here. Silver and black today and obviously sports original podcast. 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The guys share their thoughts on Sunday's complete game from the Raiders in their 25-10 victory over the Saints. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices