Happy New Year, Wealth Rebels! 🎉 Welcome to 2025, a year of adventure and alignment. As we step into this fresh chapter, I’m beyond excited to bring you a special gift: a medley of my most powerful conversations from 2024. These moments have deeply shaped me and my journey, and I’m thrilled to share them with you.
Why This Medley? 2024 was my “Down to Earth” year in numerology — a number 4 year, representing grounding, rebuilding, and transformation. It was a year of profound spiritual awakening and personal growth, where I rebuilt every part of my life, including myself. Through these conversations, I connected with international impact founders whose wisdom and stories illuminated my path and helped me rise stronger than ever.
Here’s a look at the incredible guests featured in this medley:
1. Darin Olien – Superfood Hunter and Co-Host of Netflix’s Down to Earth
Episode: Wealth Unchained Ep. 51
Darin shared his journey of exploring sustainable living and the impact we can create by aligning our wealth with purpose. This conversation transformed my perspective on wealth as a tool for amplifying our Beingness. Darin’s message of channeling abundance into alignment resonates deeply with everything The Wealth Rebels stands for.
Listen to the full episode HERE
2. Joe – Founder of Drink Oshun
Episode: The Wealth Rebels Ep. 3
Joe’s groundbreaking work on hydration and natural electrolytes captivated me. We delved into the science behind how our bodies—essentially oceans themselves—can thrive through natural hydration. This conversation was not only inspiring but also deeply synchronistic, as Darin later highlighted Drink Oshun on his podcast Superlife.
Listen to the full episode here
3. Franco Demori – Heart-Centered Leadership Advocate
Episode: The Wealth Rebels Ep. 8
Franco guided me into the profound understanding of my spiritual awakening. He revealed the importance of leaning into our hearts, the portal to our souls, and embracing our infinite potential. This conversation reinforced the power of living authentically and creating our realities with intention and love.
Listen to the full episode HERE
4. Victoria Maddox – Founder of British Sauna
Episode: The Wealth Rebels Ep. 12
Victoria’s story of pioneering the British sauna movement opened my eyes to the healing and consciousness-raising power of sauna culture. Her outdoor sauna experience in London Docklands was life-changing, and our conversation unveiled how saunas can play a pivotal role in our healing journeys.
Listen to the full episode HERE
Behind the Medley:
This show is my baby. It’s a space where I’ve been able to create magic, meet incredible people, and share transformational conversations. However, 2024 wasn’t all sunshine; it was also the hardest year of my life. From heartbreak to healing, I’ve felt it all—and it’s through this pain that I’ve been reborn, like a phoenix rising from the ashes.
As I reflect on this journey, I’m filled with gratitude for the people in my life—my children Harry and Rose, my friends, my family, and the real, soul-deep connections that remain. You are my blessings, and I love you with all my heart.
2025: A Year of Adventure This is my 5-year in numerology, the year of adventure and new beginnings. I’m ready to embrace the unknown and create a life filled with purpose, joy, and abundance—and I invite you to do the same.
Namaste, Wealth Rebels. Let’s create a beautiful 2025 together. I hope you enjoy this medley of conversations that lit up my life in 2024.
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So get ready to unleash your full potential and embrace a life you love. Hey there, Wealth Rebel's happy 2025 to you. Let me tell you how happy I am to be in 2025. 2025 is going to be like a totally different energy on so many levels. It is my five year in numerology, which means the year of adventure and my goodness, do I need an adventure after the year that I've had? So as a gift to you to welcome you into this new year and this new opportunity to be a Wealth Rebel, to be your own Wealth Rebel in your own rights, to have that wealth sovereignty and to energetically shift into your highest frequency and highest vibration, your high vibe, right, I wanted to bring to you a very beautiful medley of the year to my show to you of four of my very favourite conversations that I have had with international impact founders as a celebration of 2024. So 2024 in numerology was my down to earth year and the theme of getting down to earth literally guessed by guessed weaved its magic within the show. Your energetic year in numerology is linked to your day to birth, but usually kicks in a month after your birthday, so being a November baby, right, being a November baby, my energetic year in numerology is really perfectly aligned with the calendar year. Hence why I say that 2024 was my down to earth year. What to earth is represented by the number four, okay, which is a build number. Little did I know I was going to literally have to build every part of my life and my business because I shifted. I had the profound spiritual awakening this year, basically I woke up to what it is that I came here to be, do and have in my life, you know, I connected to myself and I saw a huge new part of me and who I was and that had to come into all aspects of my life, which I talk openly about in the latter two of the conversations that I'm going to be sharing with you today as my awareness of my awakening really started to reveal itself. And later on in 2024, it really became clear on what my role in the world is is and my own role in my own life means to me. And this year I rebuilt everything in my life and my business, including myself. And the fact that I was in my down to earth year, my four year, I wanted their far to pick the best four guests that stood out for me, that amplified my energy and helped me to rebirth and to rebuild myself and still to this day, they influenced me deeply. Every day these people influenced me because I follow them on Instagram and we have become really great friends throughout all of this, okay. So I am sharing with you the incredible conversation that I had with international superfood hunter Darren Oley, who co-hosted the actual show down to earth on Netflix with Zac Efron, which went on to be an Emmy award winning show. Now this conversation was incredible for me and for you to hear this, the link to the original podcast are in the show notes, okay, it is an episode, it is episode 51 of my original show named wealth and chained before I rebirth the show after my awakening on the 18th of September to the wealth rebels show. So please go and listen to the show, listen to the clear, you're going to hear the clips just as we dive into this super beautiful medley episode. Then as I rebirth the show, I was going through the biggest art activation of my life where all of my car wounds from my life and past lives, if you're a very spiritual person, came to the surface to be healed once and for all. And I ran into a new friend, Nick at my local run club, the local coffee shop aptly named Heartbreak Hotel Coffee Shop in my village, kind of resonates massively with me because I was going through heartbreak, right? You know, a big part of the rebirth is that you have to heal your broken heart and I deeply had a broken heart from a really, really young age and I'd been blocking it and locking it down. And after a really brief conversation with Nick, he introduced me to Joe, Joe Wellstead, who is the founder of electrolyte supplement, business drink ocean. So I think Darren has gone on to talk about this year on his podcast, Super Life, okay? After my talk with Joe aired. So the synchronicities are literally off the scale and my show in September, Joe therefore shared the impact of being hydrated and the science of such a science nerd, the science behind how ocean is created and why electrolytes in their natural form are so impactful for our bodies and, you know, essentially, our body is an ocean, okay? I then went on to have the absolute pleasure of interviewing Franco De Murray, who opened my eyes to what was really happening to me at a profound level, at a deep inner standing level. You know, what was happening to me as I got to know my soul on myself, you know, this year. In this conversation, you hear first why it is essential to lean into our heart, to lean into our hearts. And that's why I had to have this heart, why I had to have this heart activation from myself. And this isn't, this is why I'm sharing this, because what's happening to me is happening to so many people out there right now. The portal to ourself is our heart. The portal to get into know your soul is through your heart. The cosmic universe of infinite potential is beyond your heart. And that's why we need to make heart based decisions in life and in business, right? And why you are there for the creator of your own reality when you start listening to your heart and tap into your soul. And when I rewind on this talk, you know, when I went back to rewind, it took me back to a conversation that Darren shared in his original conversation where he conveyed and talked about the power that we have to channel our wealth into things that will amplify our beingness, aka our wealth. So it is all so deeply connected. So these conversations weave in in what their messages are, it's all the messages that we are wanting to hear to really help us to really understand and understand what it is that wealth means and how we can really connect with our wealth, because you'll remember your wealth is your energetic frequency, it is your vibe. And finally, founder number four, Victoria Maddox, the pioneer, the founder that pioneered British sauna. So after my conversation with Victoria, I find myself constantly compelled to tell someone about Victoria's story on like a daily basis, because my love of sauna runs deep. It is a huge part of my life. After raising my consciousness, I was drawn to sauna like two years ago, naturally, and I have been really, really committed to my own sauna journey. You know, I was really blessed to have found Victoria at her amazing outdoor sauna experience in London, Docklands in January of this year of 2024 of last year in 2024. And then speaking to her in October, finally, after hearing the truth of why sauna is so expansive and essential to our healing journey, it goes way beyond what even I thought it was. And it literally opened my eyes up to what was going on for me, and why I intuitively knew I had to be committed to my sauna journey and my sauna experience, and why I wanted to go and buy a sauna hat, watch this space 2025. The elf is going to have a green or a red, I'm not quite exactly red, sauna hat. Okay. I wanted to share the four stories, literally, because they lit up my life in 2025, because this show is my creation. It is my baby. Nobody gave me permission to create a podcast, to speak my truth, to ask people like Darren, Jo, Franco and Victoria, to come on as guests, I decided to do this. I decided that whilst doing some breath work in Jersey in 2023, I was going to birth a podcast and a show, literally I launched it and then I just made it happen. And this is the biggest message, the biggest gift that I want to give to you is do not wait for permission to do what it is that you love and what you came here to create and unleash into the world. So I do hope that you enjoy this beautiful medley and you feel inspired to go back and listen to the full conversations as they are literally magic. But 2024 for me hasn't been all sunshine, chats and rainbows and amazing people because I'm going to be honest with you, behind the scenes, it has been like a bird. It's been painful. It's been the hardest year of my life with heartbreak and healing at the deepest level, feeling things that I didn't even think were possible from the biggest high of my life, from experiencing the most love of my life, to having the biggest losses of my life and feeling the most deepest pain to the biggest low that I could have ever imagined. But for anyone that is listening to this, this energy, this 2025 is a new energy. And trust me when I say in order to rebirth, in order to rebirth, you have to go through this pain. Okay, you have to experience it, you have to not block it out. Life is not happening to you, it is happening for you and everything, everything must crumble so that when you do rebuild yourself, you will build it from the ash like the phoenix, from the ground up properly this time on foundations that can never be shaken ever again. And this is why I wanted to share the best of 2024 with you, behind the scenes, whilst it has been the hardest year of my life, it's also been the most amazing as well. Seeing how blessed I am to have Harry and Rose and all the people that remain in my life, the friends, the family, the real connections, you are amazing. Okay, you are amazing and I love you deeply, deeply from my heart to you. So Happy New Year, Wealth Rebels, let's create a really beautiful 2025 and I do hope you enjoy this medley show today. Happy New Year. Darryn Eileen, welcome to the Wealth and Chain podcast. Oh my goodness. Let me tell you how amazing it is to have this opportunity to speak with you on one of my favourite topics, which is wealth. You came into my life in 2023, I found your show down to earth, which you co-host with Zac Efron on Netflix and you spoke to me in the show, like the show spoke to me, you spoke to me and I was just like Darryn, I need to see more about what it is that you're talking about, I went and got your book, which I showed you I have right here and I was just like, wow, and ever since I talk a lot about the things that I've read, the things that I've listened to, because people need to hear your message and this is why I just wanted to get you onto the show, Wealth and Chain, because I really believe that people need to think differently about their biggest wealth asset, which is themselves. You talk about in your book, you talk about the Ferrari and I really believe that we are born with a Ferrari and we end up driving a scoda. So I really think it's simple, I firmly believe that if we just get down to earth, I'm in a numerology year for this year and it's just really epically timed that we're having this conversation. I do believe that if we get down to earth, we live connected to nature, we get in line with our purpose, I know you recently did an episode on your podcast about purpose and I talk a lot about purpose. I realize that this Ferrari that we've come here to drive is going to be wealthier for it and there's something even more epic and this is something that I kind of read about your book and I can't wait to dive into this, that because of societal norms, we believe that we can't be wealthy because we think that money equals wealth and this is underpinned by a massive desire for power, money is power and we end up then living in the scoda lifestyle. We automatically start doing things that aren't making us wealthy. So I just can't wait to dive into this topic wherever it leads us. I believe the wealth management industry wants to keep us stuck in things like consumerism, investing into a stock market that is at all time highs just doesn't make sense because we did some research before we came on air, 2 to 3% of assets that are managed fuel the wealth management industry said they want to keep us invested and there's like a hundred trillion dollars worldwide of assets. So it's easy for us to do the maths to see why we have been encouraged to put money away and not live a life when it really matters and I feel really, really passionate about unshackling these wealth norms and getting to help people to see differently. So with that in mind welcome to the show and maybe just let's just start with kind of wealth. What does wealth mean to you if you were to describe wealth? Well number one what a great segment and intro and talk because I think there's so much going on around wealth and the reorientation we have to make around it and we all think of wealth almost programmed so in the sense that we think wealth is the amount of money in our bank account and of course that's a part of it that is a spoken wheel but something comes from nothing. It doesn't you know the mind, the thought, the passion, the desire, the clarity of thought, the clarity of that passion, the discipline of those things is what I believe at my core the generator of all creation in this planet that we get to participate in and of course we're in co-creation with the mystery that we can't even possibly grapple with and understand but in the feeble attempt of standing for something like wealth I think of it as clearly I think the wealth of health is exponentially powerful because if you don't have it it doesn't matter literally if you define wealth from just the money perspective then clearly it's wrong because when you don't have your health it doesn't matter how much money you have so you are desperately seeking to find your health again to find the homeostasis again so clearly you have to bring in health into the wealth conversation you have to so so it isn't black and white either so so I you know I wrote super life I wrote my fatal conveniences to stay away from things that are harming us and super life to to to bring in more things that help you thrive simply to build your wealth of your health right and so so now having that what else what else is wealth it's from my perspective it's freedom right it's sovereignty it's the ability to navigate this this complexity of this world where all kinds of things can occur so anyone listening to this if something tragic happens I burned this my my house burned down to the ground and all of those things at the end of season one of down to earth it wasn't part of the show it became part of the show but it was a real event and and so things happened so the freedom part of wealth the improving of your wealth status and I mean that across many boards of a across mental health is wealth right and then of course the physical side of it but the ability to have freedom in this kind of matrix of this world is is a very important thing so I you know it it's it's that freedom lever where if anything were to happen I have the ability to to respond not not get thrown everyone gets thrown back and everyone gets twisted but if you have a wealth principle in there and you've maybe invested and we certainly can talk about that because I'm not a traditional investor by any stretch of the imagination but I'm also like to look at different systems that not a lot of the people know about their old systems that are that we can unpack which I've just become radically interested in over the last year wealth to me is the the resiliency so having wealth is a resiliency of life right so you have the ability to respond and you can define that however you want if your house burns down if you get a divorce if your if your health is suffering or if you have health or if you're building on your health through discipline that to me is is the corner stones of wealth your your ability we just got so used to the fact that I'm here I have a body it's a it's amazing it's breathing it's it's metabolizing food it's extracting energy from that I'm talking to you from halfway around the world like this whole thing is unbelievable so I think that the investment I think the the reversing also the other point I'll make is when people go for money and they divorced themselves in that process they divorced their heart or their passion and or because they make the God of money more important that that's a sad life and I don't care what zeros you have I don't care how many you've amassed we all know the story millions and millions of millionaires have been forged by divorcing themselves and and putting all of their stakes into just gaining money and what happens every single time they're unhappy now I'm all for kid as wealthy as possible but align it to the life that you want like I I know exactly where money is going when it comes into my universe because I'm connected to projects that are infinitely more abundant than than the money could give me because they're life giving there there's clean energy technology regenerative agriculture mindset technologies like you name it I know what that is for me so the the tool of money is a tool of money for the greatest gift that we have and that is to redefine and I think you bring this up quite powerfully in your in your show in the sense that we literally need to redefine what kind of life we want period and it takes a bit of a mental shift because we're so indoctrinated into the systems that are currently in place and that have been in place when we were born but what kind of utopia do I want to build what kind of life do I want to live into so that's kind of the space that I play in every day and I do that every morning where I allow myself to journal from that place and it's amazing to me when you get clear you create the opportunity for wealth to show up and that is in all forms of wealth money shows it up when you need it support from other people health the right people around you the right friendships the right connections the right tribe I mean if that's not wealth I don't know what is. Hey guys so you are so welcome to this super special episode of my brand new show the wealth rebels I am your resident wealth rebel mr right and this episode is so freaking special for more than one reason it is the very first of the relaunch of my existing podcast wealth and chained so that in itself makes it super special but the synchronicities and Joe I didn't want to spoil this for you but the synchronicities are what makes this so special are literally of the scale I literally could not have dreamed up a better first guest to bring into the show you know in terms of an impact founder that I you know I'm about to introduce you guys to I'm so freaking inspired by what you've done and what you've created now I only decided in june that I wanted to relaunch realign and rebirth the show and the word rebirth it's really perfectly connected to to what you what you're doing with your venture as I was planning the new show it's all centered around four pillars wealth investing for good planet for good and planning before profit and shining that spotlight on impact ventures and founders of those ventures with a focus of wealth not being about many and wealth is your energy and your vibration and in order to save the planet from the issues that we face today we need more founders to put themselves out there and create the solutions that the world's biggest problems need solving and that often big corporates can't get to and that's one of the things we were talking about before we before we like sorted out today's show so I cannot wait to dive into this today with you joe now for those of you that have been following me for a while um we'll know that everything that sits behind what I do is the love of the planet the love of the ocean i've got my marine conservation t-shirt on i literally live in them it's a bit sad really um and i've got a line of profounders for the show but the universe had its own unique way of finding me the perfect guest to fully align with the love of oceans and the focus of our wealth sovereignty and energy through holistic remedies so that we own our health and well-being so literally only two Saturdays ago i stumbled down the road to my local running club at heartbreak hotel coffee shop in north debon where i met nik now nik wasn't even meant to be there i really told you this story joe nik wasn't meant to be there we got chatting as always about things that i love the planet venture capital entrepreneurship my podcast the oceans and boom nik said you need to speak to joe and then like a week later here we are recording this episode as the very first for my show because it's so freakin perfect so welcome joe well-stead to the show awesome thank you so much i'm very happy to be here good timing it is i mean this is the thing right you are the co-founder of drink ocean that was only launched in april 2024 so just four months ago i can't wait for you to tell me about what makes ocean so special which you know i've been trying out i've got it right here it's in my water as we as we speak i've been trying it out so thank you very much nik for introducing that to me so you know maybe i should blame ocean for all this crazy energy that's going through my body body right now because i feel it flowing and when i feel it flowing i do find it you know quite hard to censor my energy now the synchronicities don't stop there joe okay so yesterday i had a coaching call with my soul coach i have a soul coach and we were talking about my new podcast and i told she's called cat i told cat about ocean and about you coming on my show today and how perfect is this right cat said oh my god m my actual cat is called ocean spelled o-s-h-u-n that's amazing yeah and she she told me the word ocean is connected to sexuality fertility femininity water destiny purity beauty wealth and prosperity and i'm like oh my god what is going on so to rebur the wealth podcast with you makes my whole body just tingle with joy because it's divine timing meeting nik and then meeting you and anyone that's listening to this because i bang on so much about stepping into trust and not micromanaging everything trusting that the universe and this is just a really profound example that i just had to share as we dive into this conversation today with you so quickly before we get into this really amazing conversation um i just want to remind everyone that the whole purpose of the show is to shine a light on ventures on amazing founders to create that ripple effects i do please like subscribe follow leave a comment because it means the world to people like joe that come on to the show that give up their time and that is what it is all about so joe you're right right now you're starting the very beautiful south of france which i'm very jealous about because it's very wet and rainy in north debon the perks of being an entrepreneur right yeah absolutely so before we dive into ocean i want to dive into you i want to dive into you behind kind of the brand the because behind every amazing brand is an amazing person first and foremost um and your love of the ocean didn't just start you know one day you know it started from a really an edge tell me a little bit about your story you start out with the pros women before becoming like a serial entrepreneur tell me a little bit about your story that's right so i actually grew up here in the south of france and i'll come back to to this region after 15 years in the uk um and so i grew up kind of surrounded by uh really fresh healthy vibrant food go into the market at the really really young age so i always had like this really um strong like appetite for healthy food healthy living understanding of making my own food from scratch this kind of thing so i always had like this interest in feeding myself properly i also spent every every summer for at least one month i would go to um a friend's house on the on the west coast of france and they were basically like my um a summer family for my second family over the summer they always took care of me so i'd spend like one or two months there um really like part of the ocean culture uh and at the same time really got into my swimming as a teenager and went pretty much full-time uh pro swimmer when i was a little older uh so i'm for come up for scotting in the come off games of 2014 so water being in the water swimming surfing i also spent a year out in australia trading there from assuming and surfing um has always been always been a really big part of my life just water in general but the ocean is is the most special and so this like this new venture was um really special in many ways but one thing that we we wanted to convey is just the feeling of being grounded being happy being like feeling whole um the way we describe it is if we were to say can you think of a moment in your life when you were perfectly at peace so usually it'll be something like holiday honeymoon beach side you know like like say full relaxations uh bare feet in the sand really well hydrated maybe sipping on some coconut water fresh from the coconut all this like the whole picture of like perfectly relaxed maybe you had a massage that morning like feeling a hundred percent at peace that if we could basically bottle up that feeling that's what we want to have in ocean so it's all about the feeling of feeling um fully energized fully grounded fully whole not stimulated by caffeine but just nourishment it's it's just so perfect what you've created with the fact that you can really stimulate this habit of drinking more water i just want to come on to something because i really really love the fact that we talk about what the body is and we talked about this before you know your body being in an ocean we think of our body is 60 percent water it's 100 percent water the research and the research is showing that we are walking oceans that our body forms crystals we crystalline that's how the physics is showing that you know physical matter we crystalline it but the whole body is an ocean and in order for the body to function it needs to flow and it needs electrolytes to do that so let's tell me a little bit about what the power of ocean is what you've actually created with your electrolytes and why we need to put this into our water yeah sure well first of all electrolytes are just minerals within an electric charge so this is what we don't necessarily tell people because mostly it's sort of too much information most people just need to understand why do I need this what's it going to do for me and then they can decide you know in a well enough informed way if they want to spend money on it or not so that's that's what we talk about but basically electrolytes are minerals in an electric charge and so adding electrolytes to your water and to your body means that your body can essentially manipulate its internal energy and tell where you need water so this is why usually people's skin will start to look more hydrated more plump after a couple weeks of adding in ocean because your body can actually put moisture and water where it needs it thanks to those electrolytes like that electric charge which allows your body to say okay we need moisture over here over here over here it might be that your nails grow stronger it might be that your joints are less sore because you're putting in moisture into the right places but we make ocean by concentrating inland seawater from the Great Salt Lake of Utah and this is a process that takes two years it's very slow and it's very respectful of the Great Salt Lake because it is a endangered resource so we use it very sparingly the water basically goes into different big containers over a period of two years and moves from one container to the next just through solar reparation getting more and more concentrated and then we get to the final product which needs a little bit of balancing out so we put purified water and a little bit of potassium in there to make it a consistent product every single time and so it's a very very natural very very pure product and that's amazing because it's got 70 trace minerals in it it's got all the electrolytes that your body needs in beautiful quantities but also that process although it's slow it's very low in intervention so there's not a lot of machinery necessary there's no lending of powders there's no making a little capsule or a little you know fizzy tab or anything like that which is what most electrolytes are either powders or a fizzy tab all that process is quite expensive and it requires lots and lots of additives so if you look at what's in your fizzy tab there's loads of multidextrin there's sweeteners there's binders also the minerals are not in their ionic form which means they're basically bound to another mineral so for example if you've got magnesium in your electrolyte if it's a cheap brand you're going to have magnesium oxide which is basically not a very good very easy to digest form of magnesium so your body is not really going to utilize this product very well so as a whole it's just not a very good product for your body whereas with ocean it's got ionic forms of minerals so not bound to anything else very very easy to absorb but also because we don't have to add anything because we don't have to blend any powder because we don't have to add any bangers we don't have to compress into a little fizz tab it's very financially sound like there's it's not an expensive product to manufacture so that means that we can make this bottle which has 200 servings for the same price that most electrolyte products will have 20 to 30 servings that's awesome because we've got a superior product it's actually better value and so that puts us in a really really good place and then you know because we we attack this space from a point of um not performance where we have to find ways to communicate why electrolytes are going to be beneficial to people who often are not aware of them they either not even aware of electrolytes or they might be but they don't know what it's for so we basically have to find like okay well what are people going to feel like what are the what are the symptoms of lacking electrolytes or the benefits of adding electrolytes and usually there's pretty much like a list of five or six things um that you may or may not feel but if you feel two or more of these things you're probably like this is a really good sign that you're lacking electrolytes so one of them is low energy like fatigue or kind of brain fog like a fuzzy mind another one is dry skin or dry mouth so that's that's a really good sign pretty common a third one is craving salty food like salty snacks this is really really common in the UK where you know it's sort of 10 11 a.m. people go for like a packet crisps and a diet coke because they feel thirsty and need the salt right so these are really really common signs that you're lacking electrolytes a fourth sign is um blocked up or you go through periods of being blocked up and then having like really loose stools and like you sort of go from one one to the other you're basically inconsistently hydrated uh a fifth sign might be that you're probably not sleeping very well uh you know essentially your body has a hard time resting and then another really common one which is quite surprising is if you're constantly craving sparkling drinks sparkling water or like sparkling soda that's another sign because basically your mouth is like dried out and those bubbles feel really nice and so all those things together really clear signs that you're lacking electrolytes but if you have just two of them you're probably going to have a really big improvement and usually that's going to be seen as you're going to feel clear clear sort of energy like clear mind that you're you're fuzzy braving especially in the morning if you have ocean like first thing in the morning that you're that sort of brain fog is going to dissipate that's the first thing and then eventually you're going to pretty much have like better clear skin so clear mind and clear skin are like the two most common benefits that people feel can't wait to dive into this topic with you today Franco on any even deeper level and learn what it takes to be the soul leadership coach so firstly Franco welcome to the wealth rebel show fantastic well what a wonderful introduction well i feel a bit star struck i don't really know what to say now but um seriously that was a really beautiful introduction thank you excuse me and as you were speaking now i was thinking yeah isn't it weird weird not weird how i've gone from not having a clue who you were just it was actually just five months ago it was um in the middle of march and i'd gone to Lagos in south Portugal um and i did i did do it wasn't actually a retreat but i did do some retreat experiences while i was there and it was a bit of a reconnaissance trip and as you trip and as you mentioned um our once all mutual friend Rachel fantasy introduced me to you because i was like i really need to understand the money side of wealth and abundance but i need to connect with someone who's like really ridges both of those will the spiritual element and the actual financial element so because Rachel's in financial services i was like ah she'd be a great person to us she introduced me to you i listened to some of your interviews and i thought wow i really love this girl and what she's doing and her energy i felt so much resonance to everything that you were saying and sharing and and again bridging those worlds so beautifully but i have to admit i never imagined i'd actually be on your podcast so yeah thank you ever so much for the invitation and it really is an honor to be here ah you're so welcome and likewise likewise like this is this is what the world is the universe kind of just flows in those magical ways and you're so right about the fact that money the connection of money into abundance for me is is so in such an important topic we could do a whole topic on this because people think that money is abundance and it's not money is just an energy exchange abundance for me is a vibration like wealth is a vibration and the spiritual connection is essential it's essential and it absolutely 100% bridges the gap that people have missing so our words were gonna our worlds were gonna collide it was meant to be the universe had it planned the Rachel was someone that i met years ago that i think believe that you know we're all on this kind of awakening journey at the minute and um we're waking up to the fact that it isn't what we were led to believe so let's get deep let's get dirty into this topic of of wealth firstly i just really want to understand a little bit more about what is a soul leadership coach what is a soul leadership coach to you i'm not even sure i know myself to be honest with you but it just it's one of those it's one of those things em aware i was like yeah look at all these job titles and i was like yeah boring boring boring boring and i just thought like what's something that really describes who i am and what i do and how i show up and and and as always because you know we learned to trust our wisdom and connect with the infinite ingenuity um that's that that's in here and it just came out one day the soul leadership CEO or the soul leadership coach and i was like wow and as i felt into it what i realized it meant was that you know we live in a world where there's so much opportunity available to us that probably wasn't even available when i started my corporate career in the late twenties late twenties i'm not that old no in my sort of mid-late twenties in the late 90s i should say and um you know because we can do business at the touch of a button globally in a way that wasn't even possible in 1997 when i started my corporate career and yet people are more overwhelmed stressed out frustrated struggling with i'm in positive syndrome fear anxiety feeling isolated and all those other things and never before and that to me is insanity so i decided um after after a huge journey of discovery and loads of car crashes and dead ends and stuff i realized that what's really missing and having been a business owner several times and one company in particular that i co-founded with a good friend of mine and we had like 10 staff at one point looking back on that what i realized was missing was a connection with self because when i started way back in in 97 it was very much a strong demarcation between this is your work self this is your corporate self and that's your personal self and never the two show me and so you you kind of i ended up in a lot of the guys that i worked with just ended up like being caricatures and parodies of ourselves pretending to be this like corporate nonsense this stereotype this ego image that we thought or we would we were trained and told how to show up in a certain way but to cut a long story short what it did was it was just completely and it closed my heart off and it closed off my connection to myself it closed off my ability to connect with others um particularly in in business in terms of relationship building as well and that actually eventually led to a huge meltdown more than once and a couple of near-death experiences and i realized that what was missing was that connection to self element and so so leadership coach is really exactly what it is it is we thankfully are birthing into a new world where i think especially since the thing that happened in 2020 where we're all told we had to look ourselves in our houses and not come out because of something that was going around and i won't mention it here because of censorship but i'm sure everybody watching can can can guess what i'm pointing to but what that did was it worked so many people looked at what's important in life because so many people were locked in their houses either with partners trying to work from a home and it made people take stock of their lives and realize that actually there's so much more to life than just being this business caricature and there's nothing wrong with i mean i'm all four really successful impactful business because that's what makes the world go around when it's done ethically and from the heart but what that time period did was really open people up to the fact that if we leave from our hearts what i call leading from the soul then we create so much more wealth so much more abundance so much more prosperity so much more opportunity revenue profit we love what we do again we've reignite the passion for what we do our relationships are transformed inside and out and it's just this beautiful ever increasing circle of joy and goodness and success and and so on and so on and it there's really no downsides to it which is the amazing thing um so i know i've rambled on a bit there but as you can tell i'm so passionate about this about you know the one thing that's what a lot of people don't see in the world of business in particular is that there are two elements it's like there's the human operating system and then there's business operating system now within the business operating system are essential things like sales skills marketing skills continued professional development it skills and so on and so on and so on those things are really really important but what has to underpin that is to really bang up today fully operational super booper brilliant human operating system and that's what being in soul leadership is all about because that's the that's the thing that contains all the necessary skills that really amplifies and leverages them and makes them fun and creates so much success financially emotionally um spiritually and otherwise a few years ago and it was you know the same usual uh what the old doe it was like you're not really interested you just asking but anyway so someone came up with there was a group of about half a dozen of us talking and someone said oh so what do you do from nowhere and i said nowhere but it was what what we've both said so many times it was like i was just in this connection to sell i couldn't even stop the words before they'd come out because they weren't coming from me because my ranko identity ego ego mind identity whatever you want to call it i kind of just sat down for a minute and my true self pushed out the words that went um uh excuse me i'm an international tour guide and a bomb disposal expert and you should have seen everyone lean in like instantly i just thought everyone's just gonna walk away and just think who's this crackpot that we just asked everybody leaned in and went what does that mean really so i was like well the thing is most people are a heart attack a nervous breakdown of some kind of chronic illness waiting to go off they're just like this emotional bomb waiting to explode whether it's this year next year or in 20 years down right but people have so got down stressed out non-stop people are just like but like a pinball on acid bouncing around from here there and everywhere trying to you know trying to try and make sense of life trying to make sense of trying to make sense of business and i mean that is just completely and utterly unsustainable um without something going badly wrong because as you self said yourself before and we're at some point when we stop when our true self our hearts all awareness keep trying to tell us go in this direction go in this direction if we keep ignoring it it ends up like me with a couple of near death experiences nervous breakdowns all long-term chronic illness because dis ease is exactly that is when we become disharmonious and and out of ease with the in essence of who we truly are so that's the first bit was like the bomb disposal expert part because basically that's really all i do is is i just people to diffuse that ticking time bomb that's waiting to go off and then the international tour guide is that it's more like a cosmic tour guide in all honesty because all i'm doing is i'm pointing people back into the out looking there looking there looking there and when i say the bomb disposal part is it's really important that to emphasize that it looks like the world is happening to us its taxes it's the government it's my employees it's my wife it's my husband it's my kids it's the tax man it's who it's whoever it's shitty clients whatever it might be and i've got all these things coming in on me so it looks like the world is happening to us and we can be forgiven for thinking that because as we've said many times already we're conditioned to believe that we're a victim to the outside world but actually it looks like that's what's going on because there are stuff out there going on in the world that we think is happening to us however it's actually the other way around and this is one of the first things i point out to people he said actually the world isn't happy it's not to say that there are loads of things going on out there it really are but we can either choose to be a victim and stand in a tiny fraction of the potential that we have to not just navigate that but to transcend that and create an amazing outcome oh we have the option of going and we'll hang on a minute those things are going on out there and it's actually how i'm perceiving them that's creating my experience of that and people always say oh that's nonsense and i've had a couple of people say this to me before well so you're saying to me like my dad died last week or my wife died or my mum died last week so you're saying to me that that's not that situation you know first of all you know my deepest condolences i said what can i explore that a little bit with you yeah sure are you distraught about it 24 7 365 like totally out of control distraught no i suppose i'm not why are there times where you feel sad and like sort of happy remembering about the happy times that you had together and so on and so on yeah are there times where you're quite philosophical and just think you know if it's death it happens to all of us yeah i'm sad yeah and then 10 minutes later do you feel distraught again oh actually yeah so you've had this whole range of experiences about someone that you love who's passed away but the fact is the fact that they've passed away has not changed your experience of how you feel about that has gone from distraught to philosophical to being really grateful for the amazing experiences that you've had with them and this is what i'm pointing to it's our perception of those outside circumstances and one of the best examples that i always use in workshops is anger right we've all done it got really angry it couldn't have sent that email we've said that thing but especially if we've sent that email and we can't unsend it right yeah yeah that's told them 10 minutes later half an hour later we've calmed down and we looked at that read that email and we just go oh god what did i do what did i say i can't believe i just said that now two totally different perceptions now the situation with whoever you're angry at or whatever you're angry at hasn't changed your perception of it that's changed and so that is fundamentally core part of my job of computing to to the upliftment of society in the world and helping people to reconnect with their hearts or lessons again it to help them to realize that actually you're not a victim you're actually the producer director and scriptwriter of your own movie today we are talking to the very amazing Victoria Maddox who i had the absolute pleasure of meeting back in a very cold January in London a few years ago before i introduced you to Victoria a few years ago my life really completely changed i decided to absolutely completely change the way that i holistically look after my health i watched a documentary that made me realize that you know hot and colds really important it's important to the body inflammation and the benefits of sauna are profound and it really led me to joining a spa so when i when i went up to London recently my friends were like okay em doesn't drink anymore she doesn't do normal things that people do when they go to London because i don't get drunk and do these things anymore let's take her to something we know that she will love which was an outdoor sauna experience in the heart of London and it was fantastic and when i met you i just knew that i had to get you on the show the show at the time was wealth and chained and we were chatting just last week about kind of how we've gone into sauna season and i just can't wait to dive into what you do um before we dive into the story of you my love and i welcome welcome you into the show wealth and it wealth and change it now the wealth level show is all embodied around the pillars of shining a light on founders that are literally doing amazing things and you are really pioneering British sauna culture 100% um you know you are an entrepreneur your your canine juggling all of these incredible things founder of sweetheats sauna and you are literally representing what i believe is wealth sovereignty and i know we're going to dive into this topic you know but the four pillars of the podcast and the show is um all about shining a light on impact founders which you are having big impacts on and people that are doing amazing things within the wealth sector which holistic wealth you know getting people to realize that their health is their wealth and getting people to really be able to do that in the heart of London is amazing as well as kind of changing the way that we feel about our bodies and i can't wait to dive into some of these topics but also you know the fact that we're putting the planet first we're doing things to slow ourselves down and be more sustainable and then we are investing in things that are good good for us good for the planet and you know one of the really big benefits of when we look after our health we're not putting pressure on the planet we're putting you know we're putting ourselves first and that's really really important so Victoria welcome to the show thank you so much for for having me here and yeah thank you so much for your testimonial you're welcome i got to try it out myself because the experience that you've created in London is is so unique tell me a little bit more about what you've created in the heart of London okay so probably i should describe the location first and it's in the Royal Victoria Dock right next to what is known as western beach and it's right where the cable cars come down and virtually almost opposite the new London city hall so which moved from the south bank to to the Royal Victoria docks a couple of years ago into the wonderful crystal building which is also has lots of sustainable yeah accolades around it but it's a it's a wonderful space not far from city airport too so we do get the occasional plane going over but there's something quite exciting about that it feels so international and so it has it has its own very unique vibe we we took a little corner of that vibe under two trees under two London plane trees and that's where we set up our first wood-fired sauna so this this sauna had been in various other projects as well previous to that but we might get onto that subject a little bit later but if we stick on where we are so i had actually looked in this area several years it was just before lockdown actually i started to talk with love open water which is the swimming school that is also in the Royal Victoria docks about maybe collaborating with them and then obviously opposite us now we also have the Wake Park which is fantastic so it's a new skill I've learned this year it's not wakeboarding i'm yet to venture onto the wake boarding but i have been doing paddle boarding and and that's been a great revelation for me in my health and wellness as well as help me deal with stress and so i you know it's we started off a very small small setup under you know behind some temporary fencing that's will change now and yeah has it has it changed since i came in January it has yeah i need a visit back and so 100% when i come back to London i can't wait to come and see you again because already it's like that's what i want to do at christmas time i'm thinking i might want to get booked in early so i don't you know i know probably christmas you get booked up because i can just imagine the festivities have been you know under the you know near the Royal Darks onto the plains flying over in London crisp but i'm super hot and sweaty and you know the the the wood-fired spa sauna is is different to the one that i experienced i mean like a one that works on thermal heat i think okay the experience was so different tell me a little bit about what it was that i experienced with the leaves and the brush in oh gosh so back in 20 maybe it was about 2018 2017 2017 2018 i think it was i i met a Lithuanian bathmaster in my first sort of sort of excursions should we say with beach box Brighton so i was with the ladies that set that company up from the get-go really so i was part of their journey and the Lithuanian sauna culture is very much you know based around the elements it's such an earthy experience and everything that they bring into the the soil of space is basic materials and ingredients where it comes to our salt scrubs using honey literally just taking it could be just taking these simple ingredients putting them together and and then bringing them in as treatments into the sauna and that of course includes the birch brooms or the oak brooms that we we were using we call them leaf whisks but the the Lithuanians called them piotis or vantos oh i loved it and it was such a beautiful experience it smelled amazing yes you know i feel i felt really cleansed afterwards i you know there's something about being touched by nature you know being touched by another person that's really caring for you because you came in and you did the brush this week the the leaf experience and it just it just felt amazing and my all my friends were there there were other other girls and guys in in the room and it's really connected you've got chatting sauna chat is something i've come to love you know everyone has to have sauna chat because it's where it's where it's at and um it's just it's just was so beautiful we kind of turned up there you know wrapped up really cold and then we we fully just embraced it you know diving in and out of your plunge pool and oh i just yeah everything about it was was gorgeous we had a beautiful tea when we arrived there and honestly i didn't really want to leave if i'm honest um i could have i could have stayed and like yeah i can't wait to come back getting down to earth is so important because especially when you live in London so i live in north Devon and i'm really blessed that most days i can put my sea my feet in in the sand in the sea but for a lot of people when you live in in a big city it can feel quite hard to get into nature so by really making sure that you bring in those earthy ingredients and some of those beautiful experiences it's such a sanctuary right you know people i was i was chatting i was chatting to a few people in there when when we were there not my friends telling me that this is their experience on a sunday they were booking it in where do people come to see you from people come from all over the place so i mean we we have like a half past eight we actually you know we actually have a clothing optional session so we we're really kind of aligning with the feel that you would get in some of the German source files not not with the sort of luxury currently because we we don't have you know that sort of funding is next level next level next level however we can create this kind of zen vibe that is all about the relaxation and so of course in Germany you you can't go to sauna you know with clothes on for hygiene reasons they don't like the plastics and the neoprene type thing so those things give off chemicals in heat so there's so a lot of people have traveled you know to to Europe and have experienced sweat bathing with no clothes on so we do get a lot of people that will travel quite far and wide in order to to come and sweat freely and i say as nature intended so so that's another you know however we yeah we've got a lot of locals too and we've got you know we have a membership package and so we've had our regulars in fact she had people you know following us for for quite some time so they've been soldering you know we've asked for over the year now so we're 14 months in to this side rather Victoria and we was three months previously with this company at the back of New Docklands dean barv so people followed us from there so it's really encouraging and yeah i think i think there's you mentioned sauna chat and i think that's one thing that will differentiate the british sauna scene from from the germans or some of the european bathers is that we do like chin wag one of the things i had to wear was a hat my hair from drying out right and i think because i i i go to sauna a lot and i'm like oh maybe this is why my hair's becoming dry because we don't get the little hats okay is that i'm thinking so i'm gonna have to come and get one when i come back in when i come back and see you is it can you wear a hat when it's closed in optional this is a hat not is that is the hat clusters okay or is it no that is fine um yeah it's quite funny but there is more to the hat than just making sure that your hair doesn't dry out so tell me tell me about that this was the experience that i really love to learn about so yeah it's actually really important so um it's funny because i had a guy in my sauna on tuesday who who i you know he he was clearly suffering with the heat so i was like you you know you need a hat you need a sauna hat and he was like i don't big those which i just laughed at because i was like it's a practical thing that actually stops your brain from overheating so the idea is it traps a layer of cool air between the head and the heat of the sauna the high heat of the sauna if you think that especially if you're a top venture you're and you're sitting rather than laying down your head is going to be sat in the hottest part of that room yeah and the bones on the side of the skull so i'm told are quite thin so they conduct heat into the brain the brain being mainly water he'll go into a little bit of science a lot of kills move around a little bit faster it gets hotter quicker than the rest of the the um like the muscle tissue if you like so actually it helps to regulate the body's temperature throughout so you should be able to stay in the sauna for longer and you know i i've been saunaing for so long i've given myself heat stroke i've done a hammy time and this will help mitigate you know those those risks um if if you like so so yeah there you go function so there you go it's like a yeah my my nickname's elf so i think i'm gonna fall off the uh the sauna hat in in north Devon i'm gonna bring it to sauteness say in the sauna with my sauna hat and then explain all about your sauna and hopefully people by that point when i've listened to the podcast as well so they will be fully understanding the importance of the hat and and safety is important with these things what i want to be the other kind of dive into with you is obviously y'all you let your fire in 2018 you know when you were kind of really exposed to the magic of sauna the stress element of life is so so hidden like the day-to-day stresses of life as we you know as we're on the rat race you know we're constantly in fight-flight and freeze without realizing it our body is suffering with inflammation sauna is like the gift that just keeps giving because it's one of the things that helps us to the body to break down stress in the body you having a workout whilst laying down and having a really nice time tell me a little bit about the science behind sauna okay so i'm going to talk a little bit about maybe some of the stuff that i you know i've trained in so i've trained i trained in sound as a sound practitioner for a while and an energy medicine practitioner for that um however it was during the time that i was studying sound i learned more about you know auto states of consciousness and i realized that actually that's that is exactly what happens when we we're in the sat in the sauna we're going into a slightly altered state so the brain wave changes into the alpha i think it's the alpha and theta states which are the most beneficial for healing the body so um it's that state before sleep that that you will actually get the most benefits in in the body being able to heal so we've we've our sound therapy obviously we were holding people in this sort of space um in in the in the with gongs if you like it's a holding them in that space for a considerable amount of time so it's allowing the body to really be able to do its work why why we have it held there and then i realized that this actually transfers into the sauna space so so it's in those things we we kind of have a you know it's quite funny because we say people have get a sauna brain or sauna head you know it's when they come out because they're in that slightly altered state and they forget things they usually end up leaving at a level so no one ever leaves their phones but people will leave their knickers and then i'm still some people have thought that trousers on i'm like have i got parrotungarees how do people leave those on oh i i love it i i i recently did a samba i did my first samba um a couple of weeks ago because i really love getting into that altered state of consciousness um yeah i'm going through a spiritual awakening i've been through a spiritual awakening this year actually after i met you um it's been quite the year for me and i talk about it i talk it back quite about it quite often um and when you go into those altered states of consciousness it is an incredible place place to be and i did not realize that you've just told me something new which is actually quite profound and maybe maybe i have these amazing conversations in the sauna absolutely because what it what it allows people to do is it allows them to shed their ego which it's the lower mind it's the lower mind which is uh from my you know my studies um you know i've been working on my own spiritual practice for a lot a lot of years a lot of years you know probably since i was in my 20s so you know i i've sat and listened to the the teachings that have come through me um as well as the teachings of others um but but yeah so really realizing that we have lots of different layers of consciousness within us that have all got different voices and they'll tell us different things so so what we allow is to me the lower mind is in the solar plexus area and and that's what we let go of it's the masks that we use it's some of the personality and it actually allows us to go deeper into who we are listen to different aspects of ourselves and actually people really want to have these conversations with with other humans and then it allows us to reconnect with each other in the sauna space because human connection is so important and it's more important now more than ever as we move towards things like AI and you know the social media that has distracting us from each other is you know so so we now space is you know phones aren't allowed you know and and it seems quite natural for people you know i've had maybe one or two that might have tried to bring a phone in i'm like it's just not the place for it uh you know and get this opportunity one to reconnect with yourself and then reconnect with others and that's not always you know it's also learning some sort of sauna etiquette when you actually then become aware and you'll become aware of sometimes people don't want to talk yes yeah and so you're allowed in the space yeah that they need to process whatever's coming up for them or going on so hundred percent so sauna's been um you know i went through i'd say i'd say a bit of a breakdown when i went to beach box i'd gone through a massive profound life change you know um i decided to step away from something that i really really loved in in order for my own progression and it was tough but that sauna space was available to me you know half past five in the morning or whatever it was was traveling down to Brighton and i processed my stuff and nine months after it's like i was like reborn so i i see the sauna itself as being quite wound like you know it's it's kind of especially the the horsebox saunas because you're kind of in clothes there's there's an entrance in and out um and it's in this hot held moist space of which you're incubating yourself in you know so you know some of these other cultures especially like la fier you know la fier and they know this you know um they they do give birth in the saunas they take their dirt in and clean them you know it's it's so much more than what we we've had experience here up until recently so there's a lot of us on a journey to bring the healing aspects you know feminine healer but aspects back for sure it can feel incredibly overwhelming when we think about the climate crisis and we often feel that alone we can't have the impact we want on reversing and negative impacts that we as humans are having on our amazing planet there is so much to tackle so we often think what can i do what's the point well the good news is this there is a charity that is tackling the global climate crisis through a very unique and incredible approach by using sophisticated scientific research the global returns project a UK based charity puts 100% of your donation into a portfolio of charities that are having a positive impact on the planet so you don't have to choose the charity they do it for you all you have to do is give whatever you can from just 10 pounds and they will do the rest for you and they provide you with updates through their impact reports so you can see first hand the power of your donation we have one planet every pound can make a difference give whatever you can today to the global returns project the link is in the show notes thank you for listening to the wealth rebels podcast with me mr right the original creative rebel if you love the empowering messages that i share in this show don't forget the impact of everyone who gives up their time to come onto the show need your support it is their impacts that we want to magnify to create the ripple effect that leads to a tidal wave so please like subscribe and leave as a review it means the absolute world and if you want to take your first steps to magnifying your impact just reach out all the links are in the show notes it really is time to embrace a life you love you [BLANK_AUDIO]
