Kindeiser Podcast
Caleb Williams and more!
[music] Alrighty then, let's get after it. July 19th, 2024, back in studio, call me Kyle. Howdy. Boys are ready to get in some more stuff. If you're here listening for your second episode, God bless you. Yeah, congratulations. Kinda sorry, but whatever. No, you get to say you were the first. There's nothing be bragging about being the first one to do shit. That is fact, actually. That is a fair point. Exactly, so if you're listening right now, you're saying how great that is, because like 10 years from now, you're going to be able to fucking rub it in everyone's face. Yeah, you could be like, maybe we'll get big enough one day, we'll sell t-shirts and find out who you are, especially you out in Germany. Shout out to Germany. Shout out. We'll get you a free t-shirt for being one of the first boys to actually listen and actually care to listen to us. So that's pretty hype. Yeah, once again, once you get big enough, if you're going to hire one of these people, could do that to one of the first five listeners. You can join the crew. That is true. That'd be pretty sick. That'd be pretty cool. Also wanted to say that you can catch us on all streaming platforms now, wherever you get your podcast, we're on there. Just look us up. You'll find us. And again, it's if you even care to listen to our voices anymore and us rant about nothingness, basically. [LAUGHS] And let's just start it off on this. This is what I want to start off on. Caleb Williams finally signs with hard knocks at Hallows Hall. A lot of people were talking about that I was actually rumored what they were going to do, with the fact that they were going to wait for hard knocks for Romo Dunes and Caleb Williams to sign. Yeah. Obviously, just because it's going to bring more attention to the fact of hard knocks. I've never, ever once watched hard knocks. And I say I'm a very big NFL fan. Never really cared to. But I guess now I actually have something to actually watch now and notice my team. So I was trying to see how training camp actually goes. I don't know, again, how it works. I give something-- if it's completely uncut, you know? Yeah, I'll be honest. I'm also in the exact same boat. Pretty big football fan. Have not watched hard knocks one time. Actually, I haven't watched it. And it's funny that you said that because I was thinking about it today on my way home from work. Like, I'm like, huh, am I going to watch the Bears when they're on hard knocks? But truly, as a Bears fan, I don't think I'm going to. Because I had enough fall soap over the years. I don't want to watch it. We're going to watch the same corny bullshit that they just talk about every year. Oh, Caleb Williams, he looks impressive. He's getting along with his teammates. So I'm just waiting until the season starts and see how it works. Like, I'm just judging with my eyes. Like, I don't-- 100% I can't buy into it. 100%, that's my problem. I also feel like hard knocks is fitting for Caleb Williams just because you've seen him in the spotlight so much. Being from California, being from LA, I don't know if he's truly that's actually just a bad fanship on my part. I'm not actually knowing where he's from. But think about this guy who's been in the spotlight his entire career. So I mean, he's basically just granted he is a celebrity. But in my eyes, he seems kind of like a movie star type thing the way they talk about this guy and the way he carries himself and the way he acts. Yeah, that's exactly how it feels. And that's why I can't buy into the hype. But I don't-- I personally do not like that. I don't like when the guy's just-- he's already a star. I don't know. There's something about a perfect example. We'll be like, look at Brock Purdy. It was like a nobody last round in the draft, last pick of the draft, like all this shit, obviously. And it's like, nobody knew him. He had something to play for. He wanted to be known. Like, he had something to prove. We're like a guy like Caleb Williams who really didn't accomplish shit in college. I mean, he was good. Yeah, he was good. Yeah, he got to Heisman. He's good. But like, the guy didn't do anything that was like-- I don't know. I can't buy into the whole-- I get what you mean. I get what you mean. I guess the only way I could say just to play doubles at this is like, there's so much expectation from him. He has been praised for being so good that he's just like now on the biggest stage possible. Maybe he has that mindset where it's just like, OK, yeah, I'm going to show you how good I am now. I can show you that. Basically, like, shutting haters up, like, listen, like, I'm number one for a reason. And that's valid. That's a valid point. But also, it really is always the guys that you don't expect. Oh, 100%. It's usually the guy who's got the loud mouth and is out there bragging about how he's like, oh, I'm the best. Oh, I'm going to be the best. I'm going to do this. It's like, settle the fuck down, dude. Because he's the one who usually flops. Reality checks coming. When you're going to fucking Joey Bosa coming down on you, you're going to be like, oh shit, you're going to throw it in the cup. You're going to throw-- dude, it's just-- it's so different. That's another reason why I can't get into the hype is like, the NFL is so different. The defense is so fucking astronomically different than college. It's just like, it literally goes from like playing college football, like, the way the defense plays in college is like, it's like equivalent to like, when you're playing backyard football. It's like every play is just like, all right, go long. And then it's just fucking bomb it down field, guys wide open. It's almost 12 feet away from someone else. Some circus play, you know? It's like just something crazy. Like, wow, look at this is insane. Like, you know, kind of-- Running, throwing, sidearm, fucking back foot, like, yeah. Yeah, 100%. And then the NFL, you don't get that. You get sacked. That's why it's like one and a half seconds. It's crazy. And DBs are literally fucking like wearing receivers. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. That's why, like, to me, it's so scary. And so, like, as a Bears fan, it'd be like, you know, this guy is it. He's what we've been waiting for. It's because, like you said, it's always the guys-- the biggest success story in the history in the NFL was the last pick of the draft. So it's like, and granted, you know, argue, system QB, all this, whatever, whatever. Then he went to Tampa Bay and did the same thing, whatever. But it's like, yeah, I know. It's very scary because, I mean, look what happened when Josh Rosen, he was, like, one of the biggest prospects to come in, and he said something along the lines of, like, I'm going to win a Super Bowl, make other teams regret, whatever, you know, along those lines. Don't quote me on that, but then look at Josh Rosen. He's not even in the league anymore. Yeah, I mean, most of those guys end up like-- it is kind of crazy, like, how most of those guys don't even end up as like starters, like, within a few years. Like, you're lucky to stay a backup for the rest of your-- The rate that they fizzle out isn't seen. Like a guy, like, and I don't know how he was coming out of college, like how hype he was, but like, look at Tyrod Taylor. I think that's a guy who literally-- he started a lot of games. Yeah, no, he's a career backup. Like, that's what he is. He's not a fucking star. He's not. I mean, we've seen career backups make careers out of it. Hey, Skeena, he made like $42 million. $2 million. No, no, he hit the phone like 10 passes. No, it's a perfect example. And a guy like Tyrod Taylor, he can win games. He can start games. I'm not like, shit, now. And there are guys that are just dedicated to like being a career backup, and that's fine. But like, you know, it just-- that's way more frequent of guys who are like, hype than it is. Oh, shit, they succeeded. Like, immediately, like, come on, dude. And I think honestly a big problem that causes that right now is because in the last fucking, my homes came in and what? 16, 17, 17. So now in a seven, seven year span, you've had Patrick and Holmes come into the league and make everyone his bitch, because that's what he's done. I mean, he has made the league his bitch. 100%. Like, I didn't, you know, and that's another dude. I'll say this. I did not dick ride that guy. I didn't care for him at all. And I honestly hate it on him, because it was really easy to hate on him, because every person that comes out of college, that's the top one, two, three picks. Oh, he's going to be using the next fucking Tom Brady. He's the next Peyton Manning. He's the next Tom Brady. And it's like, you always hear this shit every year. The guy who ever goes number one overall is the next greatest fucking quarterback. And it's like, sure, hype is fun and all. But like, just reality in and of itself. It's like, yeah, those guys don't exist. Like, that is so fucking rare to happen. And it's like, but those people just shout out to the fucking first minute. Just like how I was saying, everyone wants to be the one that is like, I've been there since the beginning. I knew it since the beginning. Like, I've been watching it, same shit. Like, they all want to just say that every guy coming out is going to be the next greatest one. Because if he does start seeding, they'd be like, I've been saying that since the beginning. And it's like, well, yeah, but you can't say that about every single person, 'cause no shit. Like a blind squirrel finds a nut. You know, a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while. It's going to happen. I'm like, well, you've had my homes come out. And then like, just the quarterback play in the last like seven years has just been off the fucking charts. But like, between my homes and then like now party, you get like two extremes. 'Cause like, my homes got overlooked by the Bears and it is what it is. There's no reason that they picked Trabisky for a fucking reason. They're smart, they're not stupid. And if my homes is on the Bears, he wouldn't be what he is now. 'Cause their system's fucking ass. And it's just the fuck, that's the truth. - Put it back to what you're saying. - And that's why I don't buy into the fucking Caleb Williams things. It's like, okay, he's getting all this hype coming out of college and like, dude, just play an NFL snap. That's what I wait for is like playing an NFL snap. And even still, I want to see more than even one year. I want to see like two full years. The same way everyone held off their judgment on Brock Purdy. He came in and fucking lit the world on fire. And everyone's like, oh yeah, well, it's just a team and blah, blah, blah. - Yeah, I agree with that. - Let's see what he does next year. And what he do next year? Literally one of the greatest quarterbacks I would say. - I personally opinion got robbed of the MVP. - I would say. - Well, Marc's not have gotten it, but I don't know. - Agreed to disagree on that, but I'll say Purdy, one of his things is that he definitely is like a result of his surroundings. - Think about it. - But think about it, like Purdy has the number one running back in the league. He has Divo Samuel, Divo Samuel, sorry. Brandon Ayu, which we even know, 'cause that's another situation in its own right now. - George Kittle. - I'll use check. - I'll use check. - He has. - Yeah, I mean, all these guys are stud. So it's like, it's hard to be bad. It's hard to look bad with all these guys. Like it's been done though. I mean, it's happened to numerous teams though. That has happened. We're a team, how many times has that happened? I mean, you go back and forth and look at different sports. I mean, I always bring it back, like the Dodgers. It's like the Dodgers are stacked every year and it's like, oh, they're gonna win the world. And they fucking choke and it's like cyber. - No, you're right. - Well, okay, are these guys really that good? Or is it just a product of their team is so amazing that it gives them a lot more. I don't know, like he's, of course, having Christian McAfee and Divo Samuel, shit, helps. I'm not denying that, but also it's like, yo, somebody scouting that guy looked at him and was like, he's not ready to be a quarterback. He can't play in the NFL. And then it's like, oh, except he's proven he can. The guy has a fucking brain. Like he has shown that he can read the defense. - Yeah. - He knows how to make decisions. And that's what separates this whole, this whole fucking argument about the game manager bullshit that Cam Newton started and everyone jumped on. Like, it's just to me, watching him personally, you see a guy who's very cerebral. He's in the game. He knows the plays. He knows how to read a defense. He knows when to throw the ball, when to throw it away. And he's got a good arm. - I mean, he's really good quarterback. - And honestly, it doesn't even sound like much. Like what you're saying, like all you want out of the quarterback is like, it doesn't sound like much. So this is, you know, kind of on a tangent, but like, I feel like another thing in why QBs fail is because coaching asks for too much out of a quarterback. You get what I'm saying? - Well, they ask for too much and they put out too little. And that is exactly another reason why San Fran is successful. San Fran was successful with Jimmy Garoppolo. They were not, they didn't win the Super Bowl, but like they were successful with Jimmy G. They were winning games or a winning team. They weren't the fucking Bears. - I always thought Jimmy G was a solid, solid guy. - I did too, but they were winning games also with Colin Kaepernick. Like they've been relevant. You know why? 'Cause their system is good. They're, they have good coaching that surrounds. That is the start of it all. So yeah, Brock Purdy might not look good coming out of college, but like put him in a good system. He can become a really good quarterback and he's proven that he has. Obviously the weapons are just a boost to it because they're also guys that are like, when you put them in a good, when you put Christian McCaffrey in a good system, he's even better than he was with Carolina. And it's like, that's insane. - Oh, also, no, not to sound redundant, but going back to last week's episode of another big topic that we were having on, his old lines also solid. He's got to try one of them. - Yeah, exactly. - Exactly. - Like, yeah, they have to do this. - They don't want to be redundant and beat on a dead horse that we talked about this a lot last week, but, you know, this is, these things are important. - No, and it's like, and that's why it seems like when you say, too, like how, oh, it seems like, they do. They want a lot out of a quarterback, but also you have to, you have to, you know, it's a two-way street. You got to give him the tools he needs to grow. You can't just expect, and that, that actually is probably what it is that scares me about Caleb Williams is the fact that he's so good. I'm worried that that's, because the bear system is as bad as it is. - Yeah. - It's fucking bad. And being that he is so good coming out of college, that concerns me that they're going to be like, oh, he knows what he's doing, he'll be fine. Like, he's got this, and it's like, how about you just teach him? - Yeah, he's still right. - Like, what's just, what's just teach him? 'Cause he just, instead of taking his word for it, how about you teach him? 'Cause you're the ones making millions of dollars also to do this, it's your job. So like, don't just, don't just pass the buck. 'Cause dude, that's, again, it's like Justin Fields, we said, last week, too. I didn't think he was bad. I don't think he's, I think he's a serviceable quarterback. I think he's capable of being really good. He's got arm talent, he's got accuracy. His decision making is obviously questionable. But also, when you have to make a fucking life or death choice on every fucking play, it's going to get a little overwhelming. And like, you're playing in a big market team, the pressure is on, and it's like, dude, and then he had a good year before that. Like, Russian is ass off, like, okay, it was looking promising. - Same shit for Trubisky. There's a reason we picked him where we did, 'cause they're like, this guy's capable. And then we just didn't give him shit. Trubisky had nothing. Another guy who got shit on him, where I was like, I actually stood up for him. I'm like, I liked him. I personally liked him. I thought he could have been good, but when you don't have an O-line, when you don't have wide receivers, when you don't have shit. - That nothing else can't do with me. - They were like, we had a defense at least. - We're probably getting beat by like, due to good scenes with that core, that was horrible. - Yeah. - But like, I understand the dynamic of QBs is changing like in the NFL now. Like, running QBs are more prevalent. Like, you know, that's like the new wave, but I don't know necessarily that I want my QB rushing for 1200 yards. - No, no, and I don't. I wasn't, no, I was way more like Wetfield throw the ball. Stop putting it on. - It was exciting and electric to watch him run. Like, it was, you know, made the sport. It was like, backyard football, like you were saying earlier. - Exactly. - But I was just about to say now, too. I'm like, that's backyard football scary, because like, this is my franchise. I don't want to see him, you know, snap his leg in half on the field or, you know, get hurt. Like, is he gonna be ready for next week because his legs are dead, you know? It's like, it's a lot of added stress when you have to do that. - And then there's just so much going in his mind at that time at that point. I mean, not even just talking about fields again, 'cause any QB at that point, you gotta be like, okay, well, you know, and again, you know, quarterback, like feels that were, you know, maybe you always didn't make the best reads, but he's like, I'm just gonna run. He's like, no, dude, like, you need, you need to learn to actually read the field. You need to learn to throw. And again, completely off topic, not a kind of a tangent. But going back to Caleb Williams, my thing is with him too, is 'cause he's such a winner. And knowing that the bears are such losers, if they start losing games, will he be okay in the locker room? Like, you look in college and you can see like, you can read reports. His teammates loved him in college. You know, he was great, he's a great guy. I mean, just think about like, I was watching videos a day that I saw on Twitter, that Caleb Williams gave up massive, that NIL deal and he gave it to his old lineman. It's basically an advertisement for a non-alcoholic beer, you know, so athletes can drink this beer, but you know, it's still perform at top tier, but it's like, you know, whatever. But it was like, a couple of mil. And he turned it down to give it to his lineman. It's like, that's cool. That's sick, that's what you wanna see from your guy. That's a dude right there, that's awesome. You know, I will say on that though, it's a lot easier to impress people your age than guys who are five years, 10 years older than you. - No, 100%. - That is the one difference in the NFL 'cause in college, you're playing with people who are all your age. Like you're all going through the same shit at the same time in life. So like, yeah, you can have that attitude, but like, hey, how are you gonna walk into an NFL locker room after four straight losses, two at home, and you're gonna try and tell guys who have been in the league for five years, six years, seven years, and you're gonna try and be their boss? Like, how does he handle that? 'Cause that's the part that makes you a leader. That defines the leader. You have to be able to fucking command guys that are older than you have been like, "Hey, I've been here, boy." Like, "I know what the fuck this is about." You don't know shit. Like, you gotta be able to stand up to that. - That's just like, you're trying to jump in your mom's arms and cry, I'm losing a game. Sorry, that's just, I had to throw that out there 'cause that shit happened too. - That was horrible. - We'll talk about that. We'll try to forget about that. - But like, so Kyle Long, I follow him on social media. And one of the things he had talked about, he was doing like a podcast or something like an interview. But they were saying, he was like, you know, Mitch was a rookie, I believe it was his rookie year, but they said something about Mitch. And he basically goes like, we were getting beat really bad. He had just got, he just came in, you know, 'cause, you know, showing off the new rookie. You know, "Oh God, my Glennon's kind of garbage. Let's throw in Mitch." - Yeah. - So Kyle Long leaves the huddle before Mitch had broke it. And Mitch basically said like, get your aspect over here. I didn't break the huddle. You're not leaving this huddle until I break it. And Kyle Long is like, immediately respect for this guy. - That's what I mean. - That's what you need to do. You gotta be like, hey, listen, I know you're a vet. You've been here. This is my team now, they gave me the reins. So you're gonna respect me. - Yeah. - And obviously, you know, respected as a two-way street. You've got to go both ways. - Of course. - Yeah, you don't have to talk, you know, talk down to your team. - Don't be a cancer. - But yeah, there is, yeah, that's a great example 'cause that's exactly why I wonder if Caleb Williams is capable of doing that, you know? I don't know. It's just like funny 'cause I get it, you know? Boy on the field makes more difference than him. I think his fingernail has pink and we're having a pink phone case. Sorry, it's gotta be talked about because it's, dude, when you do that shit, like you're at, you know you're on TV, you're not. - That's like from one point that he, no, at one point is he like, okay, people are giving me so much flak for this and any publicity is good publicity. - For sure, of course. - At one point is he just like, honestly I find this amusing at this point so I'm just gonna do anything to get people talking about me. - The only thing that I'd say about that is exactly like how many times has that worked in history? Again, the guy who's got the loud ass mouth that talks about being the best and wants to be the most flashy and showy typically. - No, I agree. - Like he might be good, but like are you gonna have success and success being like bringing a franchise to a Super Bowl? - Super Bowl Cubes are so far between the like, not every QB can win a Super Bowl. - No, absolutely not. - Like absolutely not. - There can be guys that are good like, like let's say one of my favorites. I like Baker a lot. Do I think Baker's capable of winning a team of QB, like a Super Bowl, sorry? I don't know. He would need a really, really strong core around him and not saying he's not good. Again, I think Baker's an elite QB. - Yeah, but there's just some guys that are different. They're just different. - Yeah, I mean, it's the guys, it's the systems that they're in and it's also a product of, you know, it's just like us regular people growing up. Like as you grow up, like how were you raised? That's what NFL players are basically. - Yeah, 100%. - How did you get raised? Where'd you come up originally? What team were you on? How were they doing? What was that, like the locker room, like what was the atmosphere like? Now you come here, but you're also bringing that shit to the new team. So like, yeah, and that is, that's a hard thing for a guy like him, especially him like going with the, all the shit that happened with the Browns. Like, how the fuck did he get? Hey, I'll give him props. He put the fucking way to the world on his shoulders and he proved to everybody that he was not shit. Like he came, he went to the Rams and in one week learned their fucking system and literally had their longest drive in history. Like it was, I actually just watched the video on that this week when he was on PMT. They were talking about, you know, how the whole thing went down. And he's like, yeah, honestly didn't even, I didn't even know some of the guy's names that were on the field with me. He's like, I was on the way, like I had just landed. And like, I was off like 10 hours, like, you know, I had like a total of 10 hours of sleep in the last 48 hours. And he's like, you know what? He's like, he was on the bus with McVay. And I believe their GM as well. And he's like, you know what, let's do this. He's like, I didn't think I was going to play. I actually did not think I was going to play. But he's like, you know what? I'm feeling confident, like, let's do it. Bigger, Baker's awesome. And I think the Brown's organization that just speaks about how garbage an organization is because it's like, exactly. This guy brings you your first playoff win and how long? And then he was just thrown to the wolves. He was honest, he uses her scapegoat in my opinion. And that's what I thought, how they went about that situation. I was like, it was just so bad how it turned out for him. And I thought that was honestly going to be the end of his career, actually Carolina, how bad that was. But you can't even just blame that on him 'cause Carolina's just so another garbage, poverty franchise, it's horrible. They're in such, no, David Tepper knows what he's doing, dude. He knows how to run a team. Even though you should have no involvement in running a team. Dude, okay, that's another thing. Let's talk about, like, NFL ownership. I feel most, not even just NFL, I feel like most owners in any professional sport should stay out of it. I feel like, you know what, just sign the checks. There's a reason why you hired your front office to be there. Let the people that are the most knowledgeable about this sport sign players and do what you need to do. Like, when you hear about owners that are stepping in and like making decisions too. - Yeah, you can be in the room, but like, there's a reason why you're paying me to be here. - It's definitely best to, like, yeah, just keep your distance. - Don't micromanage, it might have been, I guess. - Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, too. - Exactly, yeah, don't micromanage. Just keep your distance. But I will say there are some select few and I really can only think of one and I don't even, I don't know, whatever, you gotta give credit where it's due, like Mark Cuban. - Oh, no, okay. - He fucking knows that. - Okay, you're right. - He knows what he's doing. - I will give him the exception. - That's what I mean, like that. So it is possible for an owner to be like, hey, this is what we need, like, make suggestions and even maybe demands, but yeah, for the most part, most owners aren't like that, you know? - Mark Cuban had came in and turned that team around. - Exactly. - Like that team was flying like Southwest Airlines and he comes in. That's why no one wanted to go there. Like, I heard, you know, the culture is, the atmosphere is horrible. Mark Cuban comes in, he's like, private jets updating everything, you know, you're not staying again, holiday ends, you're staying in the most premiere hotels when we travel. It's like, it's all their little shit like that. - And that makes players happy. It's like, you know what, I'm going on here every night to play for you and yeah. - Well, you want to play for someone you like. - Yeah, it's like, and that's why the fucking Panthers are screwed because I can't imagine there's a single soul in that building that likes it. And you know, he might be, it's funny 'cause it's easy to say that 'cause we're from the outside, you don't know them. So it's just like celebrities too, you know, you see all these videos and shit out them. It's like, oh, what an asshole. Did you see they said this or they did that and they turned down an autograph wall. It's like, really, you know, there's so much going on. Like you don't know them personally. So I'm sure there's people there. Tepper is probably a nice enough guy. I mean, but as an owner, he's just, he's not a good owner. He's just not. - No. - And the Bears have not had good ownership either. - No. - Truly, we have not. - Yeah. - We have stapled ourselves to 1985 for the last 40 fucking years so hard. I mean, we have literally plastered at ourselves to that year. - Yeah, I get like, yeah, you know. In a picture when we went to, when we went to the first game of the year last year, literally when we went to the first game, you're playing in the Packers, at home. - They're so high, dude. - In Chicago. And it was so crazy. - Such high expectations too. - And it is, but after losing for so many years and being so bad for so many years, it kind of sucks. - It just looks, it looks pathetic anymore. Like when they trotted out fucking, they would've hit it. (laughs) They trotted out a, god damn, how am I forgetting who the fuck it was. Who did they have come out and give that speech? He's like, let's kick the Packers ass. - Oh my. - I was going, I'm going. - Dick Buckets? - It was Dick Buckets. - Yeah, then he's like, we're gonna kick some Packer ass. He's like 80 fucking five years old. Like every dude's on death's door and everyone's like, yeah, yeah, it's awesome. - Hey, this isn't the year, dude. And then what do you know? The Packers and rookie Jordan Love, we eat the shit out of us at home. Jordan Love has been on the league since 17. - Yeah, he's a fucking rookie, dude. Oh, he's mad. - He's basically a rookie. They also, I think this is severely flawed. I saw a list of Jordan Love, like, they had him at a top 10 QB in the NFL. That's wrong. I'm not even just saying that 'cause I hate the Packers. That's wrong. He is not a top 10 QB. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a fall off this year. Who knows, you know? - You know, it's really hard to say because I guess would you put CJ Stroud on the top 10 of the current quarterbacks? 'Cause he has also only played one full year just like-- - He hasn't even played a one full year. He missed like four games, but virtually, you know, one full year. I mean, he's got a season. - You would have to take that with a grain of salt when it comes to CJ Stroud just because of the fact of like, will he have a sophomore slump? Can he do that again? Well, that's what everyone's gonna look for in Jordan Love, too. - Yeah, I mean, the guy has, obviously, you said, he isn't technically a rookie. He's been in the league for a few years. And he, again, sat on, sat behind in one of the greatest QBs of all time, learned from one of the vet. And again, this is going back to my point that I wanted to talk about earlier about Caleb Williams is like, they should be bringing in a vet into like the organization to be teaching him. - Who the hell's our backup quarterback? - Tyson Beigeon. - Oh, still? - Yeah, Tyson Beigeon, D2, you know. Dude, they had to bring in Nathan Peterman to throw a Hail Mary because that guy can't throw over 35 yards. - Nathan, dude, the names on the Bears quarterback list might be the longest list of the most irrelevant motherfuckers to ever play as forever. - You know, one point we had, we had Glennon. - We had Nate. - Mike Glennon, Mitch Shubisky, and Mark Sanchez. - Yeah. - That was our three. - Yeah. (laughs) - What about fucking, what was his face? - At what point? - Damn, I'm drawing a boy. - I'll just start. - Daniel? - Chase Daniel? - Chase Daniel? - Yeah. - Dude, we met the most, just, oh, yeah, correction. Earlier, I said, "Case Keenum." I met Chase Daniels. He was the one who made like 42 million dollars off of 10 times. Sorry, Case Keenum was Mike's quarterback. Yeah, all that. He was also, he's also like a career backup. He's honestly, you know, I don't apologize 'cause it's basically the same person. They almost flipped the same. - That's, I mean, they all fit, that's every Bears quarterback. We just have like the, you know what it reminds me of? I don't know, maybe you remember that, do you remember the show Proverse Joe? - Yes, dude. - It was fucking, it was Pro athletes versus average Joe's. We literally had the fucking, the Bears quarterback are the average Joe's. - Well, we gotta go back up. - That's our backup. - The Mike Glennon and Marc Sanchez situation, everyone was, I remember at the time, everyone posted memes of like, "Oh, nice, we got Napoleon Dynamite and Pedro." 'Cause that's what they look like. (laughs) But yeah, that's another situation with like Marc Sanchez, obviously he had, you know, he had success. - Yeah. - But it's like, bringing a guy like that, you can give him like, that minimum, to just come in and be like, show Caleb Williams like, "Hey, I've seen, you know, I've been here. I may not have been the best, but I know my way around the NFL." And these are some things that give him pointers, you know, show him things that he should be learning. And I feel like, that's just what needs to happen. I don't know why it should, there's no reason why it shouldn't be happening. Tyson Beijing can still be on the team, you know, he can still be there. - Oh, he's got skill. - Yeah, he's got skill, but he's very certain. - He's a very serviceable backup. I'll say that. 'Cause again, he can't throw over 35 yards. Any time we saw him try to throw a deep ball, it looks like a-- - That does. - He's a third stringer, dude. That's why he, you know-- - And I mean, hey, success story. D2, making it to the NFL, that's awesome. - Absolutely impressive as hell, but, you know, go start in the XFL 'cause that's where he'll end up. - Yeah, I mean, but he's making a lot more money playing in the NFL. I mean, you think about like, Agent McCarian, remember Agent McCarian was sick, but he's like, I went to the XFL or UFO, whatever, one of those leaks, because he's like, I mean, he made a decent amount of money in the NFL, but he said the reason why he went to like that, basically minor league, which so that his, you know, his son's gonna watch him play every day instead of just riding the bench. He's like, yeah, obviously I would have made so much more money being in the NFL while I'm doing this 'cause it's for the love of the game. - Yeah. - But kind of relevant to where we're talking about whatever. - Yeah, I personally like like thinking back on it, I really wish like exactly what you were saying about them, like them picking up like why the fuck didn't the Bears try to go like after Russell Wilson? - For a million bucks? - Yeah, but no, because Russ is looking for a starting position though. Russ has still got some left in the tank. - So that would have been very tough. - Okay, all right, okay. Now also though, what's your opinion on that? 'Cause I'm of the opinion that I personally think like a guy who comes into the league, but just like you said, okay, Jordan Love. Like, look, that's another, that's another thing. That's a big thing of why I think you don't see as much success among the guys that like, about like the first round draft, at first, first pick overall. It's like, oh, he's gonna be so good, he's gonna be so good. I think a lot of these guys start too early. And that's also- - 110%. - That's also why so many fail so hard. And less, and then you look at guys like, at least my home, Sappahine, Alex Smith, not a great, great quarterback. - Oh, Alex Smith is fine, he was a hard quarterback. - No, he was good, but I've been like, Patrick Holmes didn't come into the league and didn't start right away. And- - He basically, he didn't- - He didn't start, obviously he didn't, okay. But like, there's something too sitting on the bench and having to wait and like, learn and witness the big boys play before you go join them. - Patrick Holmes started, his first start was week 17 of that year because that was when Alex Smith got- - He snapped his leg. - I'm pretty sure that would see how he snapped him like, or no, he was on the Redskins when that happened, wasn't it? - No, it was just at that field. - Or no, honestly I'm drawing a blank. - I can't remember. - Kind of bad, again, bad, being a bad fan on my point and being a bad podcast or talking about it, but whatever, who cares? He's like 10 people there listening, so whatever, shout out to Germany. And the UK, I just see that too. And shout out Sam Fran, we're actually gassing at your team, so you should be happy. - Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, that guy in Sam Fran, hey, you might be pretty happy this week, dude. We get Brock Purdy as do. - Yeah. - I'm a huge Brock Purdy fan, I love that guy. But again, he didn't start right away. - No. - And it's like, I think there's something to that, and that is another thing like, okay, then let Russ start for most of the year. Are you opposed to letting Caleb Williams sit on the bench for one year if Russell Wilske can come in and play? Dude, he didn't play bad last year. Sean Payton just wanted to give him the dick. That's not how it was, he hated him. And it's like, we talked about that a lot. - We talked about it last week, but I don't know, man. I feel like, again, just give someone at the absolute league minimum just to come in. Again, Russell Wilson probably doesn't even want to come to Chicago 'cause he knows like, hey, Caleb Williams is gonna be drafted or they're gonna have a high draft pick. You're probably gonna take him. He probably doesn't even want to come. I think Pittsburgh is actually gonna be pretty good for him. For him and Fields as a whole, because Mike Tomlin, I think, is a genius. I'm a huge Tomlin fan. He's also got one of the best quotes out there, one of the best videos. Remember like during COVID, they were actually in something. Basically, asking me a question about how the team feels about, I think it was actually 'cause they weren't doing that hot or something like that. And he was like, the stupid blank stare guy at his face just goes, we do not care. It's a great video, awesome video, it's hilarious. But anyways, again, just bring someone in. I'm trying to think, and I don't know why you can't think of anyone that they can potentially bring in, but like, again, just to have like, show him the ropes. Honestly, bring Nathan Peter back in. Bring put Nathan Peter to practice squad guy and just show Caleb, like give him pointers. Yeah, it's about basically all I'm trying to get at, you know? - Yeah, I mean, the only reason that I'm on board with Russ is just 'cause you got to pay him only a million. - Yeah, like what him, I just, at least that'll be one. But when you look at the bears-- - Denver's still paying. - Yeah. - Russ. - I know, yeah, of course. And that's why he's the perfect pickup. And it's like, yo, that is what the bear, like again, we always sign these stupid-ass contracts and give money to the wrong people, a lot like the Cubs. I'll lost Chicago Cubs. And we just give money to the wrong people. We give them way too much, and then they underperform, and then they just roll out of Chicago, and then either go have success somewhere else, or they fucking retire because we sign guys who are 37 years old, and like, Russ is obviously older, but the guy can still play at a relatively high level. But the guys want to super bowl. He's been to multiple. Like he knows how to win. And honestly, the way Caleb Williams acts about himself and how high he is on himself, he might fucking be the perfect candidate to be best friends with Russell Wilson. I mean, holy shit, could you imagine a date-- - Russell Wilson was so weird at one point in time. - At one point in time, always. He's not-- - Dude, no. - He got weirder. - He got really weird. He got like, politician weird, like, kiss him baby's weird. Remember that like, he was doing that. He's like, then he's sitting there like, you know, no, not hating on, you know, if you're religious or whatever, but like, he's sitting there and videos him in church, you know, praising, you know, like, bowing down. It's like, all right, yeah, you gotta be unlimited. - Yeah, shit, I fucking, it's so funny, dude. That guy, it almost seems like he fell off the deep end. I thought like, God, this guy like developed a drug addiction. Like, what's wrong with this guy? He's too hyped on himself. But I mean, that's fucking Caleb Williams right now. Mr. Businessman, Mr. I'm gonna win eight super bowls. Mr. I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do that. Like, hey, you haven't played-- - I mean, dude, around confidence is key. - Sure. - It's like someone who's confident, but it's like, don't be cocky. - I haven't seen you play yet. Who knows? Hey, so we're actually 13 days away from the Hall of Fame game. - Yeah. - Bears and Texans, I would be surprised. I can see Caleb Williams going out for one snap. I'd be surprised if I saw any starters at all. - Yeah, that would be-- - But hey, I'm just hyped on getting, you know, some sort of football action. - Yeah, football's gonna be really exciting this year. That's actually one of the things that I was thinking about a few days ago was, man, just like fantasy football and shit, how fucking pumped I am for it. - Dude, the boys and I already got like, so pumped. - We're already trying to like, just, you know, we're just getting so antsy, like, hey, man, let's just like figure out our draft order. Why don't you just get to figure that out? Because we're not drafting-- - Makes you feel like something's going on. - Yeah, 'cause I mean, they were talking about one in a draft, like in two weeks. I'm like, absolutely not. I am not drafting anyone until after preseason. - Yeah. - Because anything can happen, you know, you don't wish any ill will on anyone, but things happen, you know, absolutely. So-- - Well, fuck, my boss, my boss drafted Nick Chub last year, and he-- - Dude, that's so awesome. - Dude, did you see Nick Chub though came back though? He posted the video, like, this week? - No shit, that's a person now. - He was squatting. - I haven't heard shit about him. - He was squatting like over... - Something stupid. - 6,000 pounds. - Dude, dude, I need to look this up. I know like, because it's just so insane, Nick Chub was always one of my guys that I wanted to draft. It was either Nick Chub or Derek Henry that I always wanted, and I just need to look this up. - My dumb ass took Derek Henry two years in a row, and I surely benefited the first year, but boy, last year, he let me fucking down. He was terrible. - So, it was this week, eight months after his ACL tear, he was squatting 540 pounds. - Dude, I mean, that's insane. - Yeah, I mean, I'm a huge Nick Chub guy though. I love my guy. - I love my guy. - Yeah, I do too. That was, yeah, that was, obviously, with just how gruesome it was, was very... - Especially 'cause I happened to him in college too. Like, that's what was crazy. The same thing happened in college. - Yeah, the same thing. - The same thing. That's why everyone's like... - There's no way he's coming. - His career's over, but yeah. It was, that was a scary moment. - Obviously, it's looking like right now, like, he's gonna do it. He's gonna come back. - Who's, let's discuss like sleepers. Like, who do you think like, A, team-wise, B, wide receivers, running backs, quarterback. Like, who do you think are like, a few sleepers? I'll start with, I really do think, Quentin Johnson. Quentin Johnson's gonna be a fucking monster. I think he's gonna be awesome. I think Justin Herbert and Jim Harbaugh are gonna fucking... - Quentin Johnson, that was their first round pick last year? - Yeah, he was a rookie last year. - It was garbage. He couldn't catch the wall. - Everyone's like, all concerned. Like, oh, the Chargers got rid of Mike Williams. They got rid of Keenan Allen. - Yeah, but put him on him accent. - So that means he's gonna be their number one receiver. Quentin Johnson was fucking awesome last year. - What? - We're talking about the same guy as a... - He had a solid year. - He had a solid year. - He had a solid year. - He missed. He had like eight drop touchdowns or something like that. - He's a rookie. Also that team is so fucking, that team's... - That team's bad. - That team's mid. Dude, Austin Echler died last year. What happened to him? - Yeah. - Yeah, but I think that's what I mean. Like, I think it's gonna be his turnaround year. I think Quentin Johnson's gonna have a really good year. I mean, he's gonna get a lot of receptions, he's gonna get a lot of points. - Yeah, I mean, potentially. - Our boss offense is gonna look a lot better than Brandon Staley's offense. - I, oh, I mean. - It's gonna look a lot better. - Absolutely. - And I think their defense is gonna pull together too, 'cause their defense has been so fucking abysmally bad. - Absolutely. It's, that's embarrassing. Oh my god. It's whatever, it's closed, it's fine. Oh my god, it's pouring out everywhere. - Oh my god. - Oh my god, a fire, oh. (laughing) - Whatever, we'll just cut that part out. Anyways, but yeah. I mean, a lot of people thought that the charges were gonna end up dealing out just in Herbert. - No chance. - But no chance. Good thing they didn't, 'cause, you know, side note, you know, I know it's off top that what we're talking about, but I think JJ McCarthy's cheeks. He's smart for entering the draft when he did, because the highest is draft stock while we have ever been coming off a naddy. But anyways, going back, I don't honestly know who I feel like would be, I feel like potentially the jags and- - Dude, that's another revamp themselves. I think football Jesus comes in and- - It should have been really good last year. - He just signed a bag too, I'm pretty sure. - And he got the fucking bag. - Also absolutely ridiculous. What did he get, didn't he get like, what, 55 million? It was like 55 million, it's something stupid. - What did we talk about for like a signing bonus or? - I think he got 50 million, 55 a year. - It's absurd, he got an absurd amount of money and he doesn't- - I mean, I know. - Yeah, it was, it's grotesque how much money he got for not accomplishing shit. Now I will say- - I mean, he's, it's like, it's not only on him though, the reason why we haven't done much. Okay, so five year, 275 mil. - Yeah, 53, 52 and a half million a year. - 55. - Oh, it is 55. - Yeah, yeah, 37.5 mil signing bonus. And Florida, so no income tax. So a lot of that money he gets to keep granted obviously after like, agent fees and whatnot, but. - The biggest thing for him is that I will say like, he can win games and I know, I think personally, I believe he's capable. - Wasn't it like two or three years ago when he had that massive comeback against the Chargers? - Was it vice versa? - Two years ago, yeah. - Yeah, that was the year that they went to the playoffs, almost get to beat the Chiefs. I'm pretty sure they smacked, they like, it was either the wild card or the divisional card or the divisional round. No, it couldn't have been. It had to be the wild card then, I think it was the wild card. When they were playing the Chargers and they looked like garbage, Trevor Lawrence looked like garbage and it was like 35 to seven or whatever with like halfway through the third quarter. And the Jaguars just come. - They almost came back and beat the Chiefs in the next game, they were losing to the Chiefs and they almost came back and beat them. In Kansas City, dude, he's talented, I don't bad. - He has all the stuff to do it. - He doesn't get hurt and that's what kind of fucked him last year was him getting hurt. And then he tried playing through it, like, dude, yo, he's tough. He looks like a girl, but he's tough. And I like him, I like Trevor Lawrence and I just put, you know. - I just know it's a lot of money for a guy who hasn't done shit. - I mean, that's a lot of money. - That's just what the quarterback market is though. And if you're like set on this guy. - For sure, but also- - You're gonna have to pay this money. - For sure. But also when you have Travis ETN and you have Christian Kirk and you have Calvin Ridley and then you go, we gotta get rid of Ridley 'cause we can't really afford, we know we're gonna have to pay- - I mean, Calvin Ridley hasn't been the same though, ever since, you know. - Calvin Ridley- - We've also gone two years out of the league. - One. - It was just one, wasn't it? - No. - I'm pretty sure that it was almost positive. It was only one. - I'm pretty sure, I thought it was two, could be wrong. Let's find out. - I think it was just one full year suspension. - But either way, no, Calvin Ridley is fucking awesome. But they didn't throw him the ball because they had, obviously they had Christian Kirk who was like, a stud for them. And then Evan Ingram who came from the Giants who had come up now with the Jags. He's proved, he's a beast. He's another sleeper pick. That dude was a sleeper pick last year. And I bet you he's another sleeper again this year 'cause people are very quick to forget about that. - So I'm looking here at the sea- - We get suspended for one year. - So just one year, okay. I thought it was two years that, or was it, so was it supposed to be two years? - I don't think so. I think it was one year from the beginning. - Maybe, I can't remember what all the shit was- - I also do feel like it shouldn't be a problem if you're, okay, people are gonna argue, whatever, whatever. If you're betting on your own team to win, I feel like that's pretty funny, isn't it? It's like, why is that a problem? It's a semantics of it all. Are you betting on your team to win or lose? 'Cause it does make a difference. - No, 100% absolutely does. I mean, 'cause throwing games is a thing. - For sure, you can throw it. You can't fucking force a win. You can't force a fucking win. The only way you could force a win is by putting so much of an absurd amount of money on the bets that you're putting and somehow trying to cut other players on the other team in to throw the, and that's not happening. That's not fucking happening in any sport in any way, shape, or form. That's impossible. There's no, yeah. It's stupid. It is stupid, I agree. If you're betting on yourself to win, if you're not fucking, what's his name? John T. Porter. You know, if he was taking his overs on threes. Okay, well, sure, if you could hit fucking, you think you could hit, you know, take the alternate over and take five plus threes a game for like, plus 450, you know? And then fucking go ahead and make the money, dude. Hit five threes. Like, dude, you want to, this is nothing we should talk about, actually, that I tell something today. I just thought about this talking about NFL players getting in trouble. This is a former NFL player. - Lawrence Taylor was arrested. - Was he arrested? - I don't want to tell anyone. - Oh, wait, finally got in trouble. Oh, wait, never mind. I got away with that. - Lawrence Taylor was arrested on felony charges. - Yeah, there's a lot of dumb shit that's considered a felony. - But it's for a sex offender related charge. - Oh, okay, also, yeah, you know what, context to that, though, as well. What kind of, what are we talking here? Are we talking an accusation from 15 years ago? Or are we talking he diddled an eight-year-old like two weeks ago? - I don't know. I don't know. That's why, you know, this is still kind of new to me. So I've been like, trying to read up on it. Well, so this is a, a bursty something, I guess, on 2011. Okay, so you're 13 years ago. - But this was involving a 16-year-old girl, 13 years ago. - Who said she was 19? - 13 years ago, yeah, I get it, dude, but it still doesn't make it morally correctly. It doesn't make it morally correct. - You don't know if it happened. That's why I hate that shit. Like, why the fuck does it take 13 years for you to come out and say something about this? Like, yeah, like, what is it that makes you wait until you're, you know, if she was 16, she'd be 20 now. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, this, okay. This is something else saying, failing to report, move as a sex offender again. So apparently he did get in trouble and he hasn't, he didn't report. - So maybe he was a sex offender, he just didn't report it. - Yeah, so that's what it's saying. - He didn't register. - He didn't go on fucking Meghan's Law.com or whatever it is, or you can find a little red. He didn't, he didn't pop up as a red dot next to somebody. - I honestly never knew that he was, I never knew that he had trouble with this. - I don't remember hearing that. - Well, his lawyers did a good job keeping that shit under the radar. - Yeah. - Well, oh yeah, that's not good. But hey, I mean, I don't know, I don't know. It's just, that's not good. It's not gonna look horrible look, but. - Yeah, I mean-- - Horrible look for New York right now. - Yeah, well, that's what I was about to say. Also, you could touch back on when you were talking about hard knocks earlier and I'm like, that's the funniest thing is thinking about like, man, they're gonna make a killing off of filming the worst franchises in the NFL. I think they're just going through the worst ones. They started with the Jets, then they moved to the fucking-- - Dude, the trophy legit though. - They went to the Jets. - You know, that's my sleeper pick. - No, I know, I think that was my other sleeper pick. - There's so much talent on that team, dude. - I took Aaron Rodgers as my quarterback last year in fantasy, like I believe in it. - Dude, that was like one of the heartbreaking things ever. - Okay, I'm not, I hate Aaron Rodgers 'cause of what he did for the Bears for so long. But anyways, anyways, beside the point, him coming out of the tunnel with the flag, lights dim, spotlighting, that was so sick to you. - I know, I know, I know New York. - In New York, well, technically New Jersey, but we won't talk about that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's, you know, they should be the New Jersey Giants, New Jersey Jets, whatever. What? That was so sick and then you died, I mean, it's tough. - That we are bringing, it was funny 'cause I was actually the most hype I've ever been for a fucking NFL season. - Dude, I know. And it was like so-- - I was looking forward to watching the Jets more than any. - I was looking more forward to watching the Jets. - That team is so good and so young, minus the QB. - Yeah, he doesn't need to be young. I mean, obviously-- - No, I mean, he's one of the goats. - Yeah, he's, yeah, I mean, everyone will fucking argue back and forth. - And again, I hate him. But he's one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. - See, I don't hate him, I've always loved him. - I just hate what he would do to me twice a year for like the last 20,000 years. And again, it wasn't even just him. It was before that, it was Brett Farm. And then it was Aaron Rodgers. Right now, it's kind of looking like it might be Jordan Love doing the same too, and I just hope that it stops at some point. - He is daddy. He is daddy. - Yeah, his male gets sent to Soldier Field after he picked up his male from. It's so bad, dude, it's so bad. - But yeah, I think they're possibly just picking the worst franchises to go to because it'll draw the most attention. 'Cause like, that shit's fucking, that's what people want. That's why the news promotes bad shit all the time. That's why all you see on your fucking feed on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook is all bad shit happening 'cause it draws attention. Go to the Jets, go to the Giants, go to the Bears. - How the fuck gives a fuck what the Bears are doing? - Bears fans. - Film the Chiefs, right? Doesn't that make sense? - The Patreon home's already got on the Netflix show. I know, but it's like, people wanna see that. People wanna see the shit about the Patriots when they were winning. People are interested in that shit. Like, yeah, let's watch that, let's, no. Can we not watch the fake, like the false hope that these shit franchises are giving people every year and just dragging their fans through the mud every single season? It's like, dude, is I feel like I'm in saving private Ryan in the fucking opening scene on fucking D-Day, dude. It's like, I don't have to beat this in Normandy, like crawling through fucking water and sanding dead bodies everywhere. And that's what it feels like being a Bears fan. So I get no fucking joy out of it. Oh, they're gonna be on hard knocks. I'm like, yeah, dude, I don't care. Been through a lot. - This is one thing that people don't wanna see. So the White Sox, the mid-season fan poll of like ranking broadcasters. The White Sox ranked a dead last for their broadcast team, the mid-season fan poll. I mean, again, they should have never gotten rid of Jason Benetti. He looks like an absolute goof. I mean, that guy was looking at two different cameras at the same time, all the time, but that guy was so smart. Dude, he knew, he knew baseball. He might have looked like a dork, but that guy was a genius. - He's all these. - He was awesome. - I personally didn't like him, but I mean, he wasn't bad. He wasn't. - That was the one thing with Jason Benetti too. He's like, people either loved him or they hated him. There was no middle ground with that guy. - Yeah, he was just a fucking dork. - That was the problem. He wouldn't have hated how detailed he was and how much stupid little semantics he knew. - And the way he looked. - Yeah, I mean, yeah. - I mean, but some people, I mean, they weren't dead last and literally, it has to be like every category right now in the MLB, except for like food ratings. I mean, that's probably the only thing they got going for them is like the good food in the park. - Yeah, and Jason Benetti was also, I mean, that's all that guy fucking did. I swear to God. I swear, I mean, I'm gonna do that. - Basically, he's just like, oh, oh, he's a hot dog, this fucking, it's 18 inch fucking bacon stuff, but it's going fucking, I'm like, you can't, good, again. Good teams don't have announcers that do that shit 'cause they're watching good quality products. When your team is so shit. - Okay, well, baseball. - You get to focus on the food at the park. - Baseball on TV is kind of a hard watch too though, unless you like a die hard baseball fan. Sometimes it could be so boring 'cause you know what, not every game is high scoring. - Oh, announcers make the game too. That was the, I mean, I mean, that's, I shoot a lot of shit to JD, shout out Jim Deshaes, he's fucking, you know, he's gonna go down like for the Cubs because he's been there for a long time now, but he's not a great announcer. He's kind of ass, in all honesty, but he's, he's suffices. Like when Casper though, when Casper was a fucking legend, when Casper was amazing, and when they got, when he dipped out, it was like, fuck this. I knew, I knew we were fucked and it's like, damn that's, that made Cubs games funds to watch on TV and that's now like the Sox. - They don't have that unless you like grown men growling like tigers and trying to pretend they're animals and shit. I mean, it's a lot of people weren't stuff like that now, so. - Most often, so I mean, it's been like, - That was the most fringe shit I've ever fucking heard. - But I think it was fine, but it was kind of, it was, it was like, it hasn't been the States, it's Hawkela, obviously. - No, of course not. Well, 'cause he's an old school baseball guy and he had a slogan and it wasn't like, he didn't. - It wasn't great. - He's been around. - He wasn't weird. - He's been around. - Yeah. - He's been there, done that. He knows his shit. - Yeah, he was. - Even though he was a little annoying sometimes and I loved, I love fucking Ken the Hawke aerals and I loved him, dude. He was awesome, but yeah. - It would see as tough, but whatever. I mean, on brighter news, the White Sox finally DFA'd Martin Maldonado. - Yeah, that's a big plus. - I mean, this should have happened like, when did the season start? April Fool's Day? - Yeah. - Well, it should have happened probably like, I don't know a week or second. - Yeah. (laughing) The guy's absolutely cheeks, followed up to, I believe two prospects from AAA. Time major league contracts. We'll see how that goes. I don't know, could it be honestly just a desperation point at this, like desperation play at this point? Or it could be like, you know, hey, let's give these kids an opportunity to see what happens. They'll see how they've been developing, how well they deal with the show, but I don't know, we'll see. - Well, maybe someone over there has a brain and was like, listen, hey, Drew, I know you came on that fucking interview. He did, my God, when he's like, you know, I just, was it Corey Lee, that his name? Who's the fucking guy? - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, Corey Lee has got like the best pop time in the MLB. Literally he's been like, he's been playing like pretty solid. And they're like, Pedro Grafals, well, you know, I just know, Maldonado, he's a really good catcher. And I just, I like his glove behind the plate. It's like, maybe somebody finally was like, hey, dumb ass. We're like halfway through the season now. And the guy's batting fucking 0.03. Time to get rid of him, 0.003. - Long overdue. - Yeah, like, we're done playing fucking games here. Well, we brought up two prospects now. We should have brought up two prospects. April 1st. - Yeah. - We shouldn't have had Maldonado starting, like, what? - But the biggest two is like, they always, like last year when they brought in Oscar Colos, yeah, he was doing really well at Triple A. But they brought him up way too early because he was struggling in big leagues. - I know. - It's a lot of things, like rushing guys. Yeah, like right now they can be like, well, close to Montgomery's doing well. Let's just call him up, like, no, no, no, no. Let that one sit in the oven for a little longer. That's not ready yet. - He's a guy that I honestly personally would have rather have seen him started at the beginning of the year. I'm not gonna lie, I would have rather seen him come up and try and play this year. But, I mean, I could be wrong, but it's also, again, how, their system, it's a system. - It's garbage. - 'Cause look at Ewoy. They picked up literally at the time that they got Ewoy from the Cubs. It was like, boy, did it feel like we were making a mistake. Like, I remember when that trade happened, I'm like, man, and Justin, shout out Justin. He's like, better be listening. - Yeah, he better be. He's like, this is a huge mistake, dude. He's like, well, we go, you guys, we're done. - Cease, Ewoy, Nicky Two Strikes. - Yeah, and we got fucking-- - Quintana. - Quintana. - And I like, at the time, Quintana was dealing. And I personally, I liked him when he was on the Cubs, too. He wasn't amazing, but I liked him. But, yeah, I remember that trade happening. It was like, dude, that was a mistake. Like, Ewoy's so good. He's gonna be a fucking star. That guy's an absolute stud. And he's been pretty cheeks. And he just gets hurt. He's fucking, he just gets hurt. - Yeah, I haven't been hyped on Ewoy since the trade, since the fucking trade. Like, he was like, dude, they have no structure. They have no structure. They are actually bottom of the barrel. It is kind of crazy. You talk a lot of shit about the bears. Like, oh, bears are the worst team in fucking football. Or like, the Cubs when they're playing like shit. You know, I'd say, well, they're the fucking more the worst team in baseball. And it's like, no, actually-- - The Sox are actually the worst. - Yeah, it's actually the worst. - Yeah, and Chicago as a whole, how about that stat? What was it meant to, maybe we talked about it last time. - We talked about it last week. - Yeah, about the-- - About the 0.36 win person win person win person win person. - Yeah, it was a visible. - It was a visible. It was embarrassing. Like, yeah. - It's just like the Hawks. Like, how is it, like, oh, we are the worst team in the league now. - Well, the Hawks were, we weren't. We were the second worst. - The Hawks were known to be the, like, they were going to be bad. That was expected. - Oh, yeah, we knew that. But I mean, it's just like crazy to think of like, I don't know, it's just weird. It just feels like, there's not a team-- - How many of us are watching? - How many of us should it be bad for as big as a market is it? - Exactly. - We talked about this last week. - The market size does make a difference. - It's like, there's no reason why it should be like this, but, again, don't want to sound redundant. - Whatever. - There's like some somethings that make no sense to me. Just like the whole stupid top 100 players of the 21st century. I want to get into this 'cause I'm, I think it's dumb. How are we even talking about the top 100 players of the 21st century? - When we are in 2024, we're not even a quarter, technically not even a quarter way through of the century yet. How are we going to do this? You all know how much talent's not even born yet, dude? What are they talking about, right? - Yeah, it's a stupid thing to jump the gun on. But again, that's, it must have been a slow day one day. They're just like, "Hey, let's just bust out a top 100." - Everyone wants to jump the gun. Everything is about jumping the gun, about hype, about being the first one. And that's a product of that. - This is the type of shit you get out of it. - This list is like so bad. There's some players that are just like, again, I'm not trying to get political or anything like that. - Who's, who wrote it? - I believe it's ESPN. ESPN Sports Center, you know, same company. - Who's number one? If you can remember off the top of your head. - I never saw, I never saw number one. - No? - Number one, so it's a top 100 athletes? - Yeah, Michael Phelps. - Michael Phelps is number one. - Yeah, which, I don't think that's horrible. That's actually not horrible. - No, but I mean, that's not, here we go. Yeah, ESPN, I got it right here. This is since 2000, obviously done, 21st century. So we got Michael Phelps, number one. - I just wanna go top 10. - Serena Williams, number two. - Messy, number three, LeBron James, number four. - Time Brady H5. - How the fuck is LeBron James above Tom Brady? How is LeBron James above Tiger Woods? Simone Biles, and you've seen Bolt? - Yeah. - Simone Biles. - Simone Biles is the goat. - Who's better? - Who's done more than her? - Who's been more like, gotten people talking about gymnastics than her? - Simone Biles, you gotta give her flowers. - Tiger Woods is number eight. - Yeah, they say Bolt's number nine. - Kobe's number 10? - I feel like that's a little outlandish, just because he's dead. I'ma say that. - Damn, oh my fucking shit. - That's like a bomb. - I mean, you know, respect to Kobe and RAP, it's sad, obviously, the situation's horrible. It's so horrible, but like, I also feel like that one's a little just because of what happened. Again, not saying that I'm like, no disrespect. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but. - I mean, how about, you know, shout out to the simple fact of a fucking, out of anybody you would have never named to be in the top 100 athletes in the 21st century? Louis Hamilton, making number 19. - No, Louis Hamilton's legit. - No, I know he is, but like, - You know, racing, racing does not get yet. - That's, Aaron, Donald, number 20, what are we talking about here? - Yeah, when you're talking, yeah, I mean, come on. It's so hard to even put NFL players on the top 100 list that's. - You know, worldwide, because the NFL is pretty much only in the US. And Aaron Donald? - Yeah. (laughs) - Also like that too, how the fuck is Floyd Mayweather down at 25 when this mother fucker's never lost? - I actually think he just got his first loss. - Really? - I'm pretty sure. Did it happen at those articles published? 'Cause he's 50 and O. - Are we sure? - It might have actually been like something stupid that was like, oh, actually-- - Might have been like a dumbass exhibition. - But I think it was actual professional record. He is undefeated still. I had not heard about him losing. He lost to John Gotti the third. - Oh shit, as of when? - Ah, this was five days ago. This video was supposed to-- - Five days ago? - No way. - What? - Well, no way, dude. - So it had to be-- - So the article was written before that thing, clearly. - Yeah, so apparently it's probably, it was obviously just like an exhibition. Probably it wasn't a professional fight because he's had to save his record. Either way, either way. I mean, you're as an undefeated boxer. - No, I agree. - I mean, 'cause look at the way people talk about Mike Tyson and fucking Muhammad Ali. Those guys both lost. You're talking about a guy who's never lost in boxing and he's all the way down at 25 of top all time. Like, Albert pool host is above Floyd Mayweather. - You can definitely tell that this-- - Pool host bigger for baseball than fucking Mayweather is for boxing. - I mean, pool host is really, he was one of, hey, he was my favorite first baseman, probably of all time in all honesty. I mean, I still have his fucking glove. Like, I'm a pool host guy, I don't want them, but it's bigger than Mayweather for-- - I mean, internationally, I'd say, yeah, absolutely. You can think about how big baseball is. Like, things huge, too, though. - I understand. 50 and O is-- - I get it. - No one does that. I mean, that's not common. - Okay, this is horrible. I tried out 30. - Yeah, I tried out 30, yeah. - This is so bad. Okay, this is obviously, like, - Yes, let's his ass. - This is your typical ESPN list. Like, just garbage-- - Where's-- - American-- - Where? - Where's Shohei? - Ah, yes, he come up yet. I don't think I've seen him yet. Let's find out where his Shohei-- - Dude, 'cause look at all these, like, players that are just, how eight-year-old, eight-year-old's at 37, bro. - Each-year-old, that's another guy, that's funny. - Barry Bonds at 38. That's insane. - E.G. Rowe, for sure. And, fucking Barry Bonds, should also be probably top 25 somewhere. - Like, there's so many other, like, next-shurzer? This is so bad. - It's just a dumb list. It really comes down to that. It's just a dumb fucking list to make when you're not done with the 21st century. - And also-- - I mean, I mean, again, it's-- If it's supposed to do, like, a true, true list, there are so many other people, so many other-- - Yes. - This is obviously so American. It's very hard argument to even put any-- I'd say the only-- There are very few NFL players you could actually even consider putting in a top 100 list. - Shohei is 62. - The problem, honestly, the real problem is, that's too many to pick. You can't do a top 100 of all time, 'cause there's gonna be-- - There's gonna be a top 500 would be difficult. - Okay, so like, start that list from 2025 to 2050. There's a new 100, so are they the top of the 100th century? Or now they're gonna have to go up against the first 100-- - We should definitely have an asterisk next to this. It says, like, asterisk as of right now. - Oh, oh, also, as of mostly in America. - Well, and also, how about, like, you wanna talk about, like, greatest-- The problem is just, it's the greatest of all time, quote, like, type of talk, it's like, what is Shohei accomplished? Besides great stats. - I'll tell you right now. Two-time MVP, 2018 Rookie of the Year, three-time All-Star, 240 home run seasons, 38, 19 record as a pitcher with a 3.01 career year, ERA in top five-side unfinished. I mean, granted, you can argue that he hasn't won-- - For sure, but if he doesn't-- - A World Series, but whatever, that's like saying, like, there's a lot of great players that haven't won, that didn't win at all. - And you know what? They don't get talked about when you talk about the greatest of all time. Oh, it's a few except it would be our Dan Marino. - Yeah, Dan Marino, the Drew Brees. Like, we talked about last week. We talked about the last week. - We do. - We talked about Super Bowl. - I'm talking about, like, I'll shut up. I'll say, okay, this is what I meant, this is what I meant. Drew Brees never won an MVP. - That's fine. And absolutely should have, multiple times. - Yeah, the level of competition he was going up against. That fucking time, though, man. - Well, nonetheless, yet, either way, the point being is that, like, it's so early to, like, top 100 of all time, like, you're put, I mean, like, there you go, like, James Harden. James Harden has accomplished more than the show, hey? James Harden is one of the greatest basketball players of all time. - But this is also, like, where this list is starting to get, like, less American? - George St. Pierre is fucking John Jones on this list. 'Cause how the fucking-- - He just got passed up. We just talked about it. - Did you pass him up? - Yeah, yeah. - This is what I'm talking about. This is where this list gets-- - Okay, so he's at-- - This list starts to get, like, more global because, you know, it's soccer players, other, like, other sports, now, that actually makes sense. That, you know, again, soccer players are some of the-- - Who's that? - Yeah. - This is ridiculous. - Wait, did I just see George Foreman? Who was that? - Manny Pacquiao? - Oh, Manny Pacquiao. - Ah, George Foreman, sorry, guys. And you don't know this, I'm sitting at a distance here. I do have terrible eyes, Bryce Harper. Come on, dude. - I love Bryce Harper, don't sign here. - Yeah, Bryce Harper's good. - He's good. - Chris Falk, why is Kawhi even on the fucking list? Why is Kawhi even on the-- - Why is Kawhi even so low? - Why is Kawhi even on the list? Why is he even on the list? Aaron, look at that, then you know. - I know, I know. - I had some smear shit, dude. Fucking Aaron Rodgers all the way down at, what, 91? - I always run out of Dina, I'm so low. Again, this is just people, this is so bad. - It's terrible, it's a fucking terrible list. I mean, ESPN is-- - Yeah, you said Rolling Stone was a Cuck Magazine. ESPN is a Cuck website. - They're working their way to it, for sure. - Ed Reed and Charles Woodson. - I mean, maybe top 100 NFL players since 2000. - I believe that's a win, too. I'm pretty-- - I'm not athletes in the world. - Again, yeah. I mean, there's probably people like in Europe that are looking at this and they're like, who is Charles Woodson? - Yeah, there we go. - Unless you follow the NFL, you don't know who Charles Woodson is. - Yeah, that's wild. That's a shit list. - That's so-- I just hate, I hate lists. I really do, I hate when people try and make like a, 'cause there's so many factors to consider. The same way with the Jordan and LeBron debate, how it's always been. - Yeah. - It's like, well, different eras about, it's like, yeah, you almost have to break down, like, okay, who were the top 100 athletes from, instead of saying 21st, how about like 1990 to 2000? Okay, what about 2000 to 2010 only? - Yeah, you almost have to do a decade by decade. - Yeah, and like, it's kind of, and on the bright, on the plus side, if a player has played long enough, then they make another fucking list, like Tom Brady. - Yeah. - If you made a top 100 from the 2000 to 2010, Tom Brady's gonna be on it in the top. - 100%. - Who's gonna be on it from 2010 to 2020? Tom Brady will also be on it. That's just a plus that he gets, 'cause he played so fucking long and also at a very high level. - It's a bonus, so, these, I don't know. - I figured I'd get a reaction out of you, so I wanted to bring that up. I thought that was horrible. - Yeah, the bug is so, absolutely terrible. Man, that's crazy. - I saw that, and like, how are they even doing this? Again, like I said, we have, I'm sure, an amazing talent that hasn't even been born yet. - Well, no, he's, no, that, he's out there already, and he's out in the Chicago Bears. He's just starting quarterback. (laughing) He's gonna be, he is actually, Kable Williams is actually gonna be the, he's gonna be all 100s, but he will be one through 100 of the next. - Hey, I'd be ecstatic as a Bears fan. I'll just say, I'll take it. - He's gonna be number one, two, three, four, five. He's gonna be everything. - And just to shout out, you know you're listening to, Anthony Richardson will be number two million because he's dog water. That's all we'll say about that. I wanna talk about it a little more. - Yeah, the Bears fans are scared of the Colts still. - What, who was scared of the Colts? - That's, that's Super Bowl really hurt. - Nobody is scared of the Colts. - That's Super Bowl really hurt. - I don't think anyone's respected the Colts since Andrew Luck left. - That's fine. - I don't have to respect them. - No one fears the Colts, no one fears the Bears. - Oh, this is not saying much. - Okay, that's like a terrible one argument. - No, it's not a counter argument. I'm just saying no one fears the Bears. - I'm not saying anyone did. - I'm gonna be like, well, fucking Anthony Richardson, she's like, well, Anthony Richardson is not, he's proven more than Kayla Williams has already. So I would have more faith on Anthony Richardson than Kayla Williams at this point. - I don't know because Anthony Richardson's college stats were abysmal. - College. - Yeah, that's like one of them was defining factors. - It reflects, but it reflects, but I mean, it's, we're in the NFL now. Kayla Williams hasn't played a snap. - Whatever, well. - I have no, potentially, a potentially C in 13 days. I think the boys need to go out and do something too for the Hall of Fame game. - That's if it's, I don't even know what the Hall of Fame game is gonna be on. - I have no idea. - Is it gonna be on national television? Are they gonna do some stupid, like, oh, you gotta sell your left leg and subscribe $3 million for 10 years? - Yeah, it'll be on like fucking football or something. - What is that? Like, I never heard of these half of these streaming websites. Like, what is this? - It's all money. - It's ridiculous. Like, who's he gonna come up with? Actually, they're probably all owned by the same people. - That might be on TV. That might be on national TV. - I'm sure we can find out. - Probably, yeah, you just look it up. I bet you it's on national TV, for sure. - I mean, I would hope so. - God. - Shout out Devin Hester. I'm pretty sure he's getting inducted this year. - Yeah, he just got his gold jacket. Like, a week and a half ago. - I did see that. - So, we will find out. - ESPN and ABC, so perfect. There we go. Bears vs Texans. We're gonna see Kayla Williams vs CJ Stroud. - Not until regular season, actually. - Because all the game game means, absolutely nothing. - Pretty sure the field's also garbage. Do we win our home opener against Titans? - I think so. - Yeah. - I think the Titans are bad. - The ABC South is pretty weak in my opinion. - But except the ABC South's so 50-50, I feel like it's half of it's really good. There's only four teams. So half of it's really good. Half of it's pretty like meh. - You know, it's funny you say that 'cause literally three of the four teams were in running to make. Was it all four? - The Colts could have made it to the playoffs that they beat the Texans. The Texans had to beat the Colts to make the playoffs. The Jags were in the playoff race and the Titans were out of it. - No, the Titans were very far out of it. - Yeah, they were ass. So, I mean, you had three of the four teams were literally in contention for the playoffs. And once you're in the playoffs, anything can happen, obviously. So I don't, but you can get your cheeks blown off. - You can get your cheeks blown off. Absolutely. - Yeah, I mean, absolutely can. Like see teams that, you know, really shouldn't be there. We've seen that happen before. - Yeah. - Yeah. (laughing) - We've seen that before. Where it's like, it's fun to watch. It's a fun spectacle to watch. I do enjoy it. I'm not gonna lie, I do enjoy it. I love when I love. And I'll say that just fucking. - Dude, people who are probably listening to us as Bears fans, people think the same thing about the Bears. I love when a team that has no business makes their play off and their fans are actually like, "Yeah, we got a shot." - It's like, yeah, I don't know. - Yeah, it's gonna get beat down. - I hate when like, I see like the camera, like they zoom in on the players, the QB's and then you know, they just look so sad and just struggle. I'm like, man, I hate to see that 'cause I feel so bad for those guys. I know they're like, I'm out here giving it my all. And it's just not good enough. - Well, you're just out. Yeah, you're outgunned at every level. And it's just like, that's, you know, granted for one person. Stefan Diggs, I'm getting really tired of the standing out there. Like, okay, at first, it was like, that's tough. Now it's like, all right, buddy. We've been seeing the same act for like three years now. It was, I'm tired of it. - I mean, it is tough though for him because he is a fucking top receiver in the league. - Yeah, his quarterback just can't show up when it comes out to it. - That dude just cannot catch a break. And it's like, man, it's like third time's a charm, hopefully, I guess with Texas. I mean, with Texas, with Houston, it technically is Texas. - I gotta fucking piss, I'm sorry. I gotta piss, pause this motherfucker. - Or anyone you are. All right, though, this is something else that we can touch on. Alabama's naming their field after Nick Saban. Saban Field. I feel like it's kind of well-deserved and actually massive honor for him. I mean, think about what he did for that program. Everyone wanted to go to Alabama. - Everybody, I mean, I kind of always, not really hated Alabama, but it was like, there's another reason why I didn't watch college football is because I'm like, well, there's gonna be like four teams every year that are gonna be elite 'cause they get all of their recruits. - Yep. - And so it kind of got redundant, but now we're seeing like, with this NIL, it is a good thing, but also kind of a bad thing. It's kind of like a double-edged sword because of the fact that you have, obviously, much bigger schools are gonna be able to provide more with NIL and give bigger things and smaller schools won't be able to, but that's gonna entice more like hometown kids to wanna go to their hometown schools so they can, you know, I can stay closer to home and I can still make money and get cars and stuff. You know, but unlike before, it's just like, hey, if you come here, you have a really good chance at winning a national championship and going to the league, or even if you don't, if you know you're not good enough for the league, you can at least still make the natty, you know? - Yeah. - I don't know. - Yeah, that's a weird one. I don't know, it kind of goes both ways. It just really depends. Yeah, it's like a lot of worse societies, I guess, 'cause those people would rather worry about showing off fancy shit than like flossing their ass to take what it takes. 'Cause like, yeah, why are you playing college? What are you playing to get to the fucking NFL? Are you playing to now? Like now our guy's just gonna be like, well, I can make millions of dollars playing college football, like, you know, I'm just gonna sit back and fucking buy all the shit that I want, show off, fuck off, fuck around and just, it's like, what are you gonna fuck around and find out? 'Cause you're gonna be out of college and it's like, okay, you're 25, you're 26 and I'm like, hey, yeah, you're living off millions of dollars. You were never anyone famous, you just made a shit ton of money 'cause of college. - Yeah. - Real life's gonna hit you by 30. You're gonna be out of fucking money. - Dude, you're gonna be a broke motherfucker. - You're gonna be like, open up a car dealership and be like, hey, remember me? - Yeah. - And like the local town, like, hey, they're in the local town. - Yeah. - Come buy a car from me. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, it's like, so that is a problem. I think that is gonna start to happen. We're gonna see, you're gonna see a lot of guys, it's just weird 'cause like money for sure, money gets to people's heads and like, that's one thing I for sure have always been in the boat of as a non-college football fan. Like I never watched college football. - So I try, again, I claim to be a nor did they fan. I'm like, fake nor did they fan. That's just because like, they're local-ish. And, you know, that's probably like the best program to root for in this area because pretty much every other program is kind of fun. I mean, we went to an IU game last year. It was fun, it's cool. You know, to see a college stadium, that's cool, but like, it was a blast getting absolutely wasted and watching us get our fucking ass kicked. (laughing) - I don't know, we did it. We actually won, we won. - I know you were very sauce, but you don't ever- - Like shit. - We played Indiana State. So obviously we're not like- - I'm like blown out. - No, he didn't. - I'm pretty sure it was a blowout. - Yeah, we blew out Indiana State. Dude, I was the other way around Indiana State that bad. - I'm pretty sure we got absolute- - No, dude, Indiana State. - I'm pretty sure we got a hose. - No, I don't think we won, dude. - You're very wrong. I will, I promise you that. I promise you that, I will pull the three seats. - Yeah, it pulled that up, looked at that game up. - 41 to seven. - Oh, we won 41 to seven. - Yes, they remember that. - That's us that pulled our starters out of the game. (laughing) - Yeah, it was pulled. - Never mind, I'm retarded. - Hey, all I do is a blowout one way or the other. - Yeah, I mean, it was Indiana State. - That's right. - Again, they're not anything relevant, not anything good. - Hey, we almost beat Ohio State last year. Yeah, Ohio State was pretty weak, weren't they? They weren't fucking weak. That's, this is why I don't like college. 'Cause they, oh, a team at Ohio State is absolutely good. - But the problem is, they lose three games or two games, just like Georgia not making the fucking, I mean, come on, dude. It's like, oh, they lost two games. - It's basically, if you don't go under, well, if you don't go undefeated, you're shit. - Yeah, yeah, if you don't win it, it's stupid. - That's stupid. - If you don't go undefeated, you're not making the playoffs. - But that's also the thing. - Or you can go undefeated. - They don't have it, that is true. We've seen that last four of the states. - That's so bad that people are like, well, just think about it, you know. - It's all about, again, it's all about money and ratings. - They don't wanna fucking team with a map of order. - The playoffs are expanded now. The playoffs are expanded now, so I've seen more teams are gonna make it, more deserving teams. - And they should. - Yeah, absolutely. But, I mean, whatever. But again, like you said, that saw comes back around to money and like, what teams, what programs are gonna bring in like the most viewerships. And obviously, to a certain extent, that has to happen because it is a business in the end with any sport, but as a fan, you kind of hate to see it. - Yeah, like I said, I'm kind of, like, you know, as just becoming more of a college football, I don't wanna say like follower. - I told myself, I'm gonna watch more college football this year just to try to get as much football in my veins as I possibly can. - Yeah, I actually, so last year was the first year that I really ever watched. - I watched like four games last year. I'm like, this is the most I've ever watched. - Yeah, I think I did watch. I think I might have watched like five or six. - And the good news is that you watch them wherever. Like, you know, your local stations are gonna have at least five of them are gonna have five different games on how I got that fucking fire stick, boy, dude. I got the unlimited. I got every single game. - You know, streaming websites exist, but anti-pyrating over here, anti-pyrating. - I don't personally do anything. I just have a fire stick that has all the shit on it. I just, it's in my TV, I don't know. Yeah, how I got there, I don't know who did it. Yeah, I just bought it from some guy. - I didn't buy it, I don't even fucking pay for it. I don't even pay for it. Literally, that's crazy fucking dudes like, I remember my uncle was like, yeah, it's like 50 bucks every six months or something. I'm like, oh, that's a sweet deal. Fuck yeah, for everything, literally everything. I'm like, yeah, perfect. And then I goes, oh, I guess the guy forgot to charge you. I'm like, what? He's like, he didn't charge me for it, so I guess you don't have to pay me. I'm like, all right. And the next six months came up, he goes, yeah, it's not under again. I'm like, okay, fucking perfect, dude. So watching UFC events, I'm watching every college game, watching every basketball, baseball, what are everything? - I'll say that too. I guess I'll just say, really not a big college sports fan in general, but especially college basketball because I think fundamentals are horrible. And you just see guys instead of making plays, they just pull up and shoot from anywhere and it's terrible, but watching the final four and the championship. I just watched it just because, you know, with the guy that worked, we had brackets going on. I'm like, yeah, I'll just see what's going on. I'm like, just looking. It actually was kind of exciting. - Yo, I'll tell you what. So that was for me, as a person who never liked basketball, really, I mean, I liked old basketball, I never, I didn't watch it. I was fucking way too young, but like I do like watching old, I watch full old basketball games like back in Jordan's era. Like, going physical is a lot more entertaining. - Yeah, exactly. It's really fucking fun to watch. And my uncle, the same fucking uncle, I'm talking about the fire stick shit. - Shout out. - Shout out. - Yeah, shout out, shout out Jack. He's a huge college football, college basketball, me and him, both sports betting, like type shit like that. And he's the one that got me to start paying attention to it. And I'm like, yeah, okay. So then I did an honestly college basketball. It is so fucking fun to watch and follow like through like March Madness and shit. Like, I do get the hype. I'm not all about it. I'm not like turning out like every single game. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like, yeah, like following the scores, following the teams, I'm like watching it, kind of like develop and play out. It's like, yo, it is kind of fucking wild 'cause unlike college football, any team can make it pretty deep. - People say like, they follow college sports more just because it's like, well, these guys really have like, they're playing for more than I'm going to play for. I'm like, I don't know if that's necessarily true because think about it, you could be a bad NFL team. But at the beginning of each season, you're going in with that mindset, like, hey, we're going in, we're competing, we're gonna win a Super Bowl. It's like, people are like, these guys have already made it so they don't care as much anymore. I'm like, I don't know if that's necessarily true. They're all competitors. They're all, you know, they're all there for a reason. They all work their asses up to get there and it's like. - There's definitely, yeah, see, no, I definitely, I believe in it 'cause I'll say like just regular work, like blue collar work that I do. It's very relevant to the same thing. It's like, yeah, there's a certain people who like, oh, they go, oh, I've been here for 30 years and I deserve this amount of money and they do. And do they put in the same effort they were putting in 20 years ago? Like, when you get a new job, you try and impress your boss. - Yeah, 100%. - I'm working hard. But then once you're there for like a year or two and now, and it shouldn't be a year or two, it should be way more than that. It should be fucking a long time. You should always work your hardest, really, but no one ever does and that's acceptable. But like nowadays, it's like, you get a job, people like after like six months, they're like, oh, I'm the fucking veteran here. Like a new guy comes, I see it all the time. I see this shit. - Yeah, no, I know. - What are we happening today? We were talking about it. Like a guy who's been here for a month and it's like, well, he's the new guy now. It's like, no, you're still new. You've only been here six months. So like, fuck off. You still have work to put in. Like, you better keep trying to impress people. And that's like, that is the truth. Like, yeah, once you make the NFL like, it's like, oh shit, we're here. We're getting paid, we're out here. Like, I'm on TV, I'm this, I'm that. I'm balling out and then college athletes is like, bro, that is the fucking goal. And your goal, it's like, it's almost like, your goal is to be like the boss. Like, your goal is to be the manager of the company. And then once you get that position, you're just like, all right, I'm here. And you just coast. - It was a comfortable. 100%. - You just coast. The comfortability. - You still work. - You're still a competitor. You still work. But like, you're just kind of coasting more than you are. Like, hey, I'm trying to go out here and like, be in the hall of fame. Like, there's, there's, but man, there's so, there's so many players in the NFL and there's so few that will make the hall of fame compared to how many guys are actually on every team's roster. - Yeah. - And any one of those guys is capable of making the hall of fame because they made it to the NFL for a reason. 'Cause they are good enough at their position. So like, it really just comes down to like, how hard are you trying? What's your drive to actually fucking go out there? And that's what separates the boss. 'Cause at the time back in a couple of year, the Khalil Max, fucking, I mean, I couldn't name more. - But then the other thing about like, when it comes to like, again, we'll just touch on this real quick before we go. Like what Khalil Max, he's like a perfect example. Like, father time always wins. He always catches up. 'Cause you think about it's like, he was pretty young when we signed him. No, he was. I mean, why they actually think he was in the league? Like, he's kind of off his rookie deal. So-- - I think he was three years. - No, three or four. - Definitely not. Where did we get him from? Oakland. That's right. I'm pretty sure he was only on the week for like four years. - No, it was definitely longer than that. Well, we'll find out real quick when we go ahead. It's like, what did it think about it? And then I felt like your lifespan is not that long. - No, I think what is the average? - The average elite career-- - It's like four years. It's like three and a half years. - Three and a half years. - Yeah. But, so if you came to the league at 2014, we got him in '18. So he was in the league four years already. Yeah, but think about it. It's like, you get to the point where, like, pretty quickly, you're not the fastest guy anymore. You're not the best anymore. Someone has come in who's younger, who's faster, who's better. - Well, the injury bug bit him in the ass. I mean, that's really what happened to him. - 100% more than anything. It wasn't his like drive to fucking play. - I mean, think about it, 'cause in 2018, like, the first game that he was a monster. He was like, wow, we got our money's worth from this guy in the first 60 minutes. - And then in typical Bears fashion, our reality came. - Oh, we came crashing back to reality. - Well, after a year, his 2018, he had a great season. - Yeah. - Phenomenal season. - We went, we need to stop talking about that. We gotta stop bringing that up. - Good wheel, Mack. - Think about it last year. - Good wheel, Mack. - Good wheel, Mack. Season ended because of the Rio ended because of Cody Barty. - Not even just that. - Last season, the little Mack had 17 sacks last season. - Yeah, what did he set? Didn't he set? - For the Chargers. - He tied the single season. Tied the single game record for like six sacks in a game or some shit last year. Monica, I'm not that sure. I think he tied the single season record for like a single game record. - This is so crazy to think that we're calling Cleo Mack older. No, he's only 33. - I never said he was old. I mean, I'm trying to argue that he was young. - Yeah, he was like, in NFL years, he's old. - Yeah, he's, yeah, he's definitely a veteran. But like, when that's what I was saying, though, like when he came to the Bears, like, yeah, he's only in the league for four years. Like he wasn't like, the whole thing was like, but he was still, he's a good example 'cause he was trying though. Like he was the best in the league. The injury bug bit him. That had nothing to do with him. Like the one person that I would say was really flooky was Robert Quinn when the Bears signed him. Because, yeah. Oh, he had turf too all season. I'm like, I don't even know what that is. Yeah, it is. But then obviously he sets like the franchises sack record the next year. Yeah. And honestly, they should have dealt him off then. I know they did the following year. But again, when a guy like that is like performing so well, you have to deal him. His stock is never gonna be higher than at that point. I'm sorry. You're never gonna see that out of him ever again. We see that 'cause when he went to Philadelphia, he didn't do anything. He died. Yeah. But we can end it on that, honestly. I think that's pretty good. - Also, actually, let's end it on this. - Okay. - 'Cause this is embarrassing and it should be embarrassing 'cause it's an absolute fucking disgrace to everything sports. How about the fucking CEO of Fanatics not being able to throw a baseball? - Oh, fuck that guy. I'm going out there and saying that. Dude, when baseball, when the jerseys came out this year when the uniforms came out, it wasn't for me even the see-through aspect, which obviously, yeah, why are we using this fucking cheap ass fucking fabric? I mean, Jesus Christ, people in the Great Depression with fucking potato sacks if they sewed together for clothes had better fucking uniforms than what we have now from a global monopoly is what fucking Fanatics has become. But just to go out there, fuck Fanatics for that, fuck their design of the uniform and the fucking corny ass looking preschool names on the back, fuck the see-through uniforms, fuck the crooked emblems on the hats, I don't know if anybody else has noticed that, but I noticed literally during the first week of the season, it might have been an opening day for the Cubs when we went, I pointed out on the fucking jumbotron to somebody to AJ, I think I'm like, I'm like, "Look at the fucking emblem on that hat." - Shout out AJ, yeah, shout out AJ. - I'm like, "Look at the emblem on that hat right there." I'm like, "That's crooked." And it's like, I'm like, "What the fuck's going on?" And it's like, and then the pants tearing, like, that's so bad. - And then they ruin the NBA Finals jerseys. They root, Fanatics is a fucking shit company and they're trying to run everything, which is why they took over the fucking card. They literally have a monopoly on cards now and it's absolute horseshit. And your fucking CEO throws a 38 mile an hour ball and can't hit a fucking, couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat, fuck that guy. I just wanna go on the record stating that. That's all I got. There we go, fuck Fanatics. We'll see you guys next time. Thanks for listening. Happy Friday. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)