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Seth Rollins Should Beat CM Punk, Adam Copeland in the AEW World Title Picture | Ep. 111

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Speaking of statues though I do want to give a thank you to a few people one all of you for watching it was a very successful stashy awards this year it's success and then thank you to all of our guest presenters they really pulled through last minute I kind of I was sending out messages and. And we got like there's a few people we weren't able to get to the scheduling stuff but like I mean great response is we got I believe crazy do so shout out everyone shout the whole creator community. They made it special we got great I love we got the avengers yeah as people have been saying with that said though I guess I'm ready we got a lot to go over I'm ready to jump into it let's do it before I do that I do want to plug the patreon. This is the main feed podcast so if you want an entirely additional exclusive patreon podcast where we do a lot of Q&A wrestling Q&A we chat movies we talk other stuff head over to patreon.com slash stash club wrestling for that for five bucks a month yet the whole back catalog as well hell yeah. We're gonna be answering a bunch of your questions on the show today fuck yeah all right with that said we're gonna kind of run through smackdown to get us caught up to raw and then we also have a w world's end oh yeah pretty solid show. Alright we're gonna start out here with like I said we're gonna kind of breeze through smackdown but Chelsea Green she had a US title celebration they were teasing the Piper Niven turn we gotta meet an interruption. This is solid I'm already loving Chelsea Green's US title run she was dressed as the satchel. Yeah I mean she's only been she's the longest rating US women's champion right now. I yeah I mean it's she hasn't really had any matches defenses nothing like that yet but so far like her presentation the way she is her character and dealing with the belt of like you know the whole theme of the USA's dress up a statue liberty it's perfect. I think it's just gonna get better and better obviously it seems like Meechin is still in the mix here she's gonna be going after the belt or like you said Piper turning that could lead to a they'll do that. But it is good to see that with this new belt they're already like you know they're setting the setting time aside to plan stories and you know get matches set up and all that so it's good start so far. It's nice to that she has the US title so you can make more of a theme out of it. I could be silly and think like she's gonna elevate it. Yeah like obviously she's the first one holding up I really think she's the perfect first person to have the belt she's gonna treat it so well. I agree. All right we're gonna move on to street profits defeating Los Garza's who were reminding everyone that they are still signed to the main roster. This is a great match this is a banger I took a jab at them but like every time Los Garza's of Berto and Angel Garza are always on TV. It's always a good time street profits are street profits we know what they can do. This was solid as a good a good just tag division building the tag division sort of thing on Smackdown. Hey man it's they have a lot of really good tag teams and it's crazy what they do when they actually give them TV time and give them give them a story and give them a solid you know few minutes go out there and perform. That was one of my like in 2025 dude WWE just needs to just put more focus on the tag team. They have so many talented tag teams like some are like DI like a team like DIY more machine gun street profits those like legit tag teams and even got some guys that are just put together but you have so much make it work next year because you could really have a strong tag team division if you give them time. I mean I don't want to I don't want to keep on going in circles here I feel like we've been talking about the last three weeks but put pretty deadly on them too damn show on Smackdown this past. They were backstage they did a weird thing where they were like maybe they're on raw what was it I saw them on TV somewhere they were they did a backstage segment and then I think like they're talking to DIY. They were like talking to DIY and they were like. I'm sorry they're talking to the street profits and they like and like street profits like who took us out and pretty deadly were like we know. And then they were like it was them and they sent them to go beat up. It wasn't wallering theory it was I don't know a different different tag team that just like it was I don't know it was there was no reason for pretty deadly to like be defending DIY and yes I don't know it was dumb. Yeah yeah it was pretty deadly told street profs it was the guards us who attacked them and that set up that match that's what it was and then the guards I think they admitted that they lied or they didn't do it whatever and then there was something later where it was. Another tag team accused someone I forget there's a lot of finger pointing of who attacked to but. Hey it's like I don't know how you're not at this point you're not just like oh it was probably DIY yeah that just turned and one that titles probably them but you know what they're giving them a story they're giving them something so I'm not going to complain. New bloodline interrupt Carmelo Hayes versus Sami Zayn and what was a very fun match was Braun Strowman came down to help in the end new bloodline stood tall blah blah blah yeah we're just getting to the new year. Yeah I mean new bloodline is still attacking you know the Usos well yeah the Usos Sami Zayn here and all that so they're keeping that going. Am I crazy to say that I'm pretty sleepy on new bloodline again. Oh no I think that's what I think after raw Netflix and so in Roman fight for the. Oh yeah I forgot like I don't know where the new bloodline goes from there if it concludes that it needs a new. I'm not going to just say straight up put it to rest because like there's still story to be told yeah with like the rock coming in but like. I don't know I'm just I love Jacob I love solo but like the Tongas just don't do it for me them as like. That's a stable just don't work as well as yeah OG I prefer Tom it on go over over time the lower for sure for sure. Yeah it's just what is their story when Roman Reigns isn't with Roman Reigns is on the right. What's their story right I think post Netflix when whatever the I mean if solo beats Roman then I guess that's how you keep it going but if Roman wins which you probably should and will. Where where do they get that's the question where do they go from there that's to be seen but like you said we love Jacob we love solo solos improved. Yeah tremendously but it is a big question mark of what what happens after all this because if Roman wins and gets the ulefala. That's a whole thing they don't need like then like the rocks get brought in maybe eventually right you don't really need like solo in the new bloodline. I don't know only way is if the raw comes back and he's the leader of the new bloodline like he's pulling the strings that's the that's the one thing that can kind of wrap it all up and be like okay make sense. But there's no guarantee that that happens I don't know it needs it needs some some re rejuvenation we'll see what happens on raw if there's a place to be rejuvenated it's the Netflix debut. So much over to raw we got the new day and Jay uso starting out raw new day still can't get a word in this is it's really good. I love it. I think when it first happened I forget if you were saying it or you read something or there's a speculation in general that like that might have been on the fly of like new day we're going to cut a promo and they just like saw they were getting booed and like took that and ran a good stride if that was scripted or not or if that was on the fly either way it works I'm glad they played into it this week of them not be able to get a word in. They're like Jay talk to him we have history Jay brushed him off and new day sucks blah blah and then Drew McIntyre comes in attacks. Good segment to open up the show Drew McIntyre man I'll sing his praises every single week this upcoming year is going to be drew like he is going to be the star of WWE in 2025 they are setting him up to have such a crazy run and I just I love this bloodline story so much it's so fucking good. I'm so bought in even like if it wasn't Cody for for for wrestler of the year Drew would have had a to me it would have been between Drew and Swear he would have had a great case he would have been the leader in WWE at the very least agreed. Yes 100% I yeah I mean I like the whole one thing that WWE has done very well especially with the two hours. I'm curious Phil continue with the three is how they just are able to combine so many different stories into one that's been fun the new day then Jay comes out then Drew comes out like that's not even out here for that it's good everything together which you know it's good television it's easy to watch so interested to see if that continues when you add an extra hour also before we continue to raw. It is crazy to think that this was the last. Yeah we have really know that 32 years on cable. Yeah they did a cool video package doing all the highlights and stuff and it's not like it's not a forever thing like it's 10 years is a long time but who knows after Netflix that they could go back but it is crazy to think about that after all these years they're not on television anymore. And it's it's a it's a monumental move also as a couple things which like I feel like I feel like maybe it's more of a back in our day sort of thing but I feel like a lot of people might have got turned on to wrestling or just by stumbling upon it. Flipping the channels and you see you know fucking my undertaker I got into it really I think I think I think so too so it's interesting that like that's not going to be there for raw because if you're watching on Netflix you have to seek it out. There's no like turning on Netflix for the most part like obviously you know they could do a because peacock does it where they have a whole separate tab that's just WWE so yeah yeah maybe they'll make like a big like thing like at least for the first episode maybe like oh Monday Night Raw this whatever but I agree with you it's much less likely for someone to stumble upon and on an on a streaming platform than television but they are I guess in a sense trendsetters because yeah they're really I mean it's NFL or EA are starting to do like game specifically on like Amazon and like you have to have them to watch but for like I'll tell you that's been fucking kind it's fun. No for for I think it was on Christmas call credit to them like NFL this was the first year they had Christmas day games but it was on Netflix. So having to go from football to basketball to go from NBA was on Netflix this year no football I'm sorry no so no so you have to switch from Netflix the YouTube TV just go in between games it's so. I wish we had something that just had everything all together maybe you call it cable or something but yeah I. I don't even know where I was going with it but it is crazy that it's just gonna be on Netflix moving forward and I think more people are gonna start doing it that's that's what I. It's gonna be interesting to see I would even say the next five years of what contracts get get done like you know is the NFL gonna sign exclusive deal with Hulu. No I genuinely can see it I think there's so much money to be made especially like a company like Amazon if they throw a bag at the NFL of course they're gonna make it exclusive they'll be like we don't give a fuck if people are complaining we're gonna make $100 million or whatever. That's just I think the world I think that's just the next step of like streaming and television and all that stuff and. Hey WWE is getting ahead getting ahead here so the only thing that sucks now is now I'm paying for YouTube TV and Netflix TV just going up and pro I'm about a can thank God look at like my parents. Yeah fucking crazy I need to I gotta see like different Pat like like sling might not have like USA and this so I'm gonna look at but like you can find a package where like. They offer certain ones that like you watch these ones specifically and they don't include ones that you wouldn't watch so you have to find the right right package but it is fucking. If only there was a whole streaming network that was just w we and they stream their live show crazy in the WWE network was fucking awesome when it was it was an overseas they still had it like the UK up until now. Yeah because they weren't able to get whatever the fuck it was but yeah in some countries raw and smack down I think NXT too are going to be on Netflix. Yeah I did hear that somewhere I think crazy. Okay back to wrong. All right Chad Gable defeats. I'm gonna call him Chad Otis Chad Gable defeats Otis and a really fun match Otis seems like he took this opportunity and showed the fuck out. You know what would have been better if they did this two months ago. Yeah yeah probably for the sake of the story and the feud it was just like why is this happening now. I don't even know they were still. I didn't know they were still fighting. We were way past it. I agree. Yeah I mean just separating all that and just focusing on the match you're right it was great match Otis showed out Chad Gable is like a master in the ring so he also looked great but yeah good match. But again just a few months too late don't want to take away from it but. I love the it's not a new shirt I don't think but the Alpha Academy share it which like it's called like it's Alpha Babes or something like that. It's funny it has like cartoon cartoonized. I'll look at it right now. It's wicked funny. Yeah I we knew this isn't a new conversation like we knew this was gonna happen to Alpha Academy. We got you babe that's what it is yeah we got you babe Alpha Babes. That's hilarious. We knew this is gonna happen to Alpha Academy. Yeah like you said this match should happen to this this match this feud like there should have been a whole. It should have been a bigger payoff months ago. They should have been a bigger payoff they should have been a whole Chad Otis feud they should have been a whole like like Otis defending Alpha Academy whatever. If they built this up I genuinely believe that could have been like the main event of a Monday Night Raw. Yeah yeah yeah I don't see why they couldn't have but I mean think of it this way too imagine if Chad actually won the I.C. title then it's Otis and Chad for the I.C. title. That would have been you know at this point we're just kind of a 2020 fantasy book but no it would have made sense. Yeah either way I'm glad we got it I'm glad Otis got this got this time to show off right and show what he can really do but but yeah that's I was kind of that I don't see much coming out of this. Yeah no I'm with you. Something that I do see a lot moving forward coming out of this is Dakota Kai defeating Zoey Stark to advance in the I.C. tournament. This was sick Dakota Kai hit a mean super kick to Zoey Stark coming off of a springboard. I would say this is some of if not the best I've seen out of Dakota Kai in the main roster in singles competition. It felt like she was really proving herself proving her worth that she that she deserves her spot where she is. Great love it. She's always been great she's always had that it factor where like she could be a solo champ, tag team champ you can put her in any position and she's going to run with it. Unfortunately as we all know injury has been the biggest thing holding her back seems like she's just one knee injury after another it's always something but she's healthy now. I knock on wood I really hope it stays this way because from the very beginning I think me and you were very much so in support of Dakota Kai going all the way in this tournament and the matches next week I believe on Netflix. So you know we'll talk about the other match and who should be facing later but I am I'm rooting for her man. Me too. It would be fucking awesome. Me too. She got that recognition and got her flowers. Yeah well like we'll talk more about the tournament and who should win as a whole we talk about the winner of the other side but I'm glad she's in there for sure. Me too. All right Damien Priest and the war raiders defeat judgement day. Great. The new judgement day song is ass. Yeah I love you. I missed that part of raw. I haven't listened to it. It's bad. It's a new song. I didn't see anything great about it. Especially because they had altar bridge. So it's. Yeah. Yeah. It's dumb. He can't get better than that. Me and Priest post match surprise surprise. They get run off by the war raiders and then my note in here. I was taking notes as I was watching the show. So my fit my my note was that I am I'm very over the Priest and Finn feud. And as I was typing that Finn Balor was like walking way going going. We're only getting started. Awesome. This isn't over. It's like God fucking damn dude. I it is actually baffling. It's crazy how the judgement day because there's a day I feel like in their existence. It's been like a up and down thing for them. It's like they started with edge. It was up and then you know Finn came in whatever. Then they hold the tag team belts for so long. They're running raw hostage main eventing every week and we're kind of getting tired of it. And then Damien wins the world title. We're starting to get little like pieces of them splitting up. Gets really good. And then they do all these splits of real leaving Finn and Damien. Right. And everything goes to shit. Live in Rio was good at first. Now I know they have them. And next week. Haring. You want to talk about being done after I don't care if live wins or Rio wins. They both need to move on after that. Finn and Damien I'm with you. I mean I I feel like we should care more. It should feel more important. So I feel like this is a few that has been anticipated. And it's been like you know built up for a while but now we're here. And it's been very underwhelming. They have two matches technically the triple threat and then they're one on one match. And then like I don't know. I'm so disinterested in anything that Judgment Day does right now. And I don't know what they can do to fix that. I don't know if they can fix that. But I'm very much so on the outskirts of the Judgment Day for the women's side of things and the men's side of things. It doesn't help that one has been going on for so long. It's not like they've had all-timer matches. Finn for the most part has just been getting his ass kicked. They did have some good I will say when they were tag team champions Finn and Damien. Looking back on it they were holding raw hostage and all that stuff but they weren't. It wasn't the worst title at least compared to what we've gotten over the last few months with the tag team belt. Yeah I mean I'm more so I'm talking about like matches they've had post. Oh yes 100% post break them. What are they gonna say what are they gonna say. Yeah I don't know it's it's oh it's even tougher because like this feud obviously it's different story. But for the most part it's it's these two guys hating each other right. You have a way more interesting version of that in a pumpkin set. So it's like it doesn't help it you know. They need to they haven't done anything to elevate the feud or done anything extreme. Like yeah Finn Balor hasn't gone savage. All we've done is Finn running in puts a guy's leg on the ropes and screws Damien out of a mess. Yeah it's like that's not like enough for people to be super interested in whatever. Like you need I wish they did this on now and I wish they did Finn and Damien on Netflix or something. Surprise or not. Because like just have Finn go scorched earth on Damien like beat the shit out of chairs. Put him through tables making bleed then I'm like okay like now I'm I'm interested but they haven't done anything like that. I don't think this feud deserves the demon but if you're gonna no you're gonna bring out the demon and do like like you have a match. Maybe it's a surprise demon and then Finn just like kills them for two minutes and that's it. Dude that would be that'd be like okay maybe we got something here and maybe Finn's on a roll. I love your optimism. I think you could carry that into the new year. I'm not with you on that. I think they killed the demon multiple two years ago when Roman beat him when he was fucking seizing on the ground and then the ropes broke and whatever. And then lose edge which all credit to edge he's a legend. I don't think he should have won that one. We're gonna we're gonna have a whole edge. Yeah I believe me. That's the only way they could be the only way they could resurrect it or at least make it interesting. I am with you but I think that like they did so much to ruin that character that at least when it came back I wouldn't care. They would have to do a whole lot. It's been two years but almost two years so you know what at this point at this point they can do whatever the fuck they want. They can't get worse. The few doesn't deserve it if they're gonna pull out one more string. This is their break glass encased. Exactly. It literally is. One other problem I had with this match is the war raiders just won the tag team championships last week. They felt on top of the world. Hell yeah. The tag team champions. And now we're just in a three on three. They should have been in a I'm glad they're on TV for sure. Why aren't they in a tag team division match? How come we're not facing the other tag team? What are the three judgement members that they fought? Was it Dom, Carlito, and JD? Dom, Finn, JD. Oh yeah so Finn was in the match. Because I wasn't gonna say like you could have just had the war raiders being like them and Damien are doing their thing and they're like we'll fight these two. We'll fight these two few tonight. Like Damien fights Dom and then the war raiders fought Finn and JD. I know they fought last week and stuff but you kind of like split it up a little bit. Uh huh. You know because I feel like in that sixth man match, they were over. When you need meal time inspiration, it's worth shopping king supers for thousands of appetizing ingredients that inspire countless mouthwatering meals. And no matter what tasty choice you make, you'll enjoy our everyday low prices. There's extra ways to save like digital coupons worth over $600 each week and up to $1 off per gallon at the pump with points. So you can get big flavors and big savings king supers fresh for everyone. Fuel restrictions apply for shadowed by the judgement day. Yeah for sure. So it's that's that's that's my whole thing is like we just got them with the titles of the field good moment. They should be doing their own thing. If you want to continue that like I get continuing the feud with like JD and Finn. If they're still gonna be a tag team, whatever, is there gonna be a rematch? Who knows? But yeah, I didn't love them getting overshadowed just one week after they won the tag. War Raiders win the tag belts and Triple H just immediately having the judgement day involved. Yeah. Like you can't get enough of them. Uh Jey Uso versus Drew McIntyre is set for raw on Netflix. Let's go. That's gonna be that's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a good one. Yep. They got a very obvious pentatees. Hell yeah. They're not they're not having anymore. Oh babe just literally just putting his face on the screen in the mask shape and then whatever. You saw New Day in Rey Mysterio backstage. Yeah. Obviously. Oh no. People are saying well I didn't even think of this. Yeah. They're like we'll challenge you to a match whatever raise like I'll have a partner and they're like oh you're gonna pick one of these guys. But they're like you know what show up next week with whoever you want. We'll be there and all that. I didn't even think of that. A lot of people were joking being like oh pentas come to WWE L.W.O. put him right in there. Oh man. Oh man. They might be right. Hey I mean I'll tell you what going up having penta going up against probably the two biggest heels right now. Good for a crowd reaction. Yeah. You're gonna get a reaction. I'm like oh it's penta and like oh he's gonna beat the shit out of the people we hate. Plus Rey Mysterio and Penta tag team is fucking sick. Yeah but this should be do not keep this going. What's the one off? One off and then have him go. This should be a single star until Rey Fennox comes in. Yes then you have like a year or like whatever the fuck to get solo. For the love of fucking god you already did that with Dragon Lee. Fuck. Keep it the way it is. I saw a tweet that was like like the second they showed that like graphic or whatever. It was quick. Move L.W. to a Smackdown now. Genuinely and genuinely. That's crazy. Unfortunately, Penta is gonna be debuting with the L.W.L. like people are jokingly saying. But Penta is gonna be on Raw next week supposedly. I guess. And I don't even know if this is true anymore like the conversation like the internet crowd versus like the audience versus like who's the 90% of the W.E.R.s right. I don't even know if that distinctions like how true that is but going on the assumption that maybe a pure W.E. audience might not be as hip to a Penta. And if he shows like I think he will get a good reception like on the off chance that people are just like who is this guy putting him with faces like Rey and the new day does help. Especially like if you put him if you put him with Rey then people are like oh another cool masked guy I can get behind this and it does help the masked high flyer. It does help introduce some that's like the bare minimum of like I get it. I agree. I think that probably is the biggest reason why they're doing this is to have him in a match with three of the biggest names in WWE and to for that risk that off chance of most most people being like hmm he looks familiar but I don't really know who he is like putting him with someone like ray is gonna give him that that pop you know I also saw and this I don't think would work. This is this is too silly and out there but you know who is also debuting on the same show or not debuting we're debuting returning is John Cena. So imagine Ron Netflix we get John Cena versus pentagon tune here. That's happening. That's why there's imagine to come out and immediately pet comes out because I want to be the one to retire you imagine two years ago saying that sentence on man I can't wait to see on raw and John Cena's return him to face pentagon near that's that's that's a wrestling in twenty twenty twenty oh like never know anymore but yeah it is it is exciting that he is you know gonna be on raw that he is officially in WWE look forward to yeah it'll be good it'll be good shameless attacks Ludwig Kaiser mid promo we haven't seen shameless since survivor series Ludwig pretty good promo he was like oh I'm you basically saying I'm the guy I'm him blah blah blah and then we're probably leading to a shameless Ludwig feud then cool this is solid gotta fill out the card next week as a thing so I'll probably get a get a little ten minute match next week all right here we are we're back in the icy torn we got live about period defeating me oh sky who replaced Kyrie saying they're kind of teasing a potential or we're gonna do a damage control finals I was up top kind of watching the match yeah really fun match I mean I'll say it every single week he oh sky is the fucking greatest dude she's incredible shit and also it takes to a tango Lyra about Kyrie also showed that she is also one of the best in proving herself like yeah I'm I got fucking called up for a reason Lyra worked the knee the whole match couple couple really really cool spots EO sold her ass off my take here is I'm I ultimately this might be might might be surprising for me I'm glad Lyra won over EO I tweeted this I was basically just gonna re reiterate what I what it might my thought there EO has already won the world title she's already an established world title former world title champ world champion sorry for a former world champion established world title contender she doesn't need to and I'm gonna say step down because at the end of the day it is a mid card title versus a world title so I don't think that's it's not it's not a negative it's the same logic I'll let you finish this is a different division yeah I I don't think EO sky needs to be in the mid card division I don't even know unless Kyrie is actually injured I don't really understand the EO replacing Kyrie in the first place I'm glad this match happened it was cool to see EO involved in it elevated the tournament ultimately EO shouldn't be competing for the I see title she's already graduated the world title so I'm I'm over the moon that it's Lyra and Dakota Lyra absolutely deserves it this match was great we got Dakota Dakota Ky versus Lyra Valkyria on for the I see title on raw it's like the same I wasn't gonna say it's like the same logic of like Bailey yes winning it for the United States it's like EO winning the I see belt I don't think there's anything that's necessarily wrong with it but that belt is more so made for people that aren't in the main event scene that aren't you know quite at the level of being a world champion yet like Dakota Ky and Lyra Valkyria Lyra did have you know she was the NXT women's champ she got called up last year she was uh she was the runner up tonight for the queen of the ring so she's and now she's you know gonna be in the finals here so she's getting a lot of big push here and everything which is nice to see but this belt is set up for people like that for people like Chelsea green meeting and everything and again it would have been a bad thing of E01 but this is you said it like she's a she's a main eventer she's gonna be going after the world championship the WrestleMania season I personally think she's gonna win the world rumble this year that's my early prediction that's a fun pick so I think her being away from the is he tell picture like losing here is kind of a a signal of like okay she's gonna move away from that and and towards the royal rumble which is an over a month but yeah I'm happy Lyra one good match the only thing at the ending was like she had the the road not the roll up but it was like you had her then she did the EO yeah EO had her in the roll up or some sort of roll up and that that flipped it to like that back sort of whatever but then the ref didn't count it at first there was a hesitation so that was that I was like I wish there wasn't a hesitation safe to one yeah two three it was like oh whoa that was quick but since there was it was like EO was lying there from like six seconds to be like oh she's pinning her oh why isn't he pinning her all her shoulders and down oh yeah she couldn't kick out after five or six seconds that's I agree that's a good detail only complaint but it doesn't take away from the match it was just I watched and I was like oh that it made it feel anti-climactic but I agree still good result good win for Lyra I'm excited for Dakota and Lyra next week it's gonna be a great match all right Dakota Kyver is live out curious who you got Dakota you know what's funny I I had Dakota all the way up until watching this match and I was like damn Lyra's Lyra's that I could see it no I could see I wouldn't absolutely see them putting on Lyra yo I think it's a real fifty fifty for me I mean Chelsea be Bianca and the triple threat match and Bailey on the way to winning the United States Championship I can absolutely see Lyra to me I think I just have more of a soft spot for Dakota and like knowing what she's been through and stuff yeah what she's had to go through yet here I would love for her to get that recognition but at the end of the day both of them are very deserving of it and you I don't think you can go wrong yeah whoever wins I think I think my pick is also Dakota but like I said it is no longer like a you know what's actually gonna be Dakota I really see this is a fifty fifty and that that makes even better yeah I'm excited alright segment of the night this main evented we got the Seth Rollins and CM Punk segment I got a bunch of quotes here I guess we'll just kind of like go through them comment on them and then we'll talk about the whole thing um Seth Rollins first came out he's talking to shit blah blah CM Punk came out fiery oh yeah like Seth was kind of just chillin and then punk came out punk punk was pissed off at Seth going you took your ball and went home and punk punk came out he was oh fuck do you mean everyone else that he brought up Stone Cold he brought up his Becky and she goes but I'm the only one that pick uh dropped uh picked my ball up and went home he was crazy he said he mentioned Stone Cold and he was like did Stone Cold pick up his ball and go home and Seth like off Mike Seth went yeah he did and then he's like where's your wife been and stuff like that like she picked up your ball and Seth had his rebuttals and everything bro this well I got some quotes okay um took your ball and home he was pissed at that Seth said um oh love this line you took a big chunk of change to go join the competition how that work out for you Seth said Seth said we won the war and you walk him over and wave the flag with us you were against us are you crazy yeah keep going keep going uh earlier earlier uh in it CM Punk did did Lil Bro Seth uh Seth rebuttal you can't big brother me anymore because I'm the big brother and then I got a couple of punk quotes to end down the rebuttal um punk says I don't have this quote exactly but you know he says like uh I forgot the word not guardians but he said like uh martyrs is what maybe what do you use um he says he took arrows in the back like for years before Seth was even the guy said you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for me yep the basic the reason you're able to do what you're doing is because of me because the arrows I took and I didn't get applauded for it back then but now you know he said it took me seven and a half years to to like be able not to like seven and a half years to get to where he was and he goes it took me another two years to get them all out and now I'm back and everything he says I like uh he goes I loved where I worked which I don't know if he did he goes no I loved where I work I hated the guy I worked for but he loved you so yeah I think he was talking about Vince yeah yeah I can't believe that he like I love the we loved you except hate of that yeah I actually so funny say that I have that clip pulled up yeah put it to your mic Seth's face in it he loved you is so fucking funny you watch your mouth watch your mouth um dude just it's so good run some things by some people but right I hope that mr. McMahon line I thought someone tweet it was uh he loved man is like seething right now and in backstage of Triple H is like airboxing whatever like so hype that they mentioned him whatever they were such a good dig of like like no I I like I had to I I left because I had to and also like oh the guy that was in charge the the abuser and yeah yeah yeah X Y and Z I hate him that guy love you though and he also was saying like when I was gone like you didn't stand up for me or like anything like he was talking about like people covering him or like from the arrows and shango's you didn't and all that shit so really just explaining more so why he left and it being like I didn't leave because I hated this I love this it's just right look at the guy that was fucking running everything Seth Seth kind of ends it out by uh he says he never said this to his face because punk of cancer and that he will burn him to the ground I because this was great where I think it was last year when they were doing ww2k stop yeah and I think it was and they were asking Ron's about it punk was still in a w at the time but it was like things are going a little downward spiral and they asked him about him and he was like he's a cancer like yeah basically fuck him like get that cancer out of here so for him to bring that up in this case and like I'm not trying to make it seem like it's a ooh like it's a a word that like shouldn't be said but like when you say something like you're a cancer like that's like uh like you've not seen it you know it's not nice it's not nice at all so yeah this promo dude they brought out the best side of each other um a lot of people were saying Seth Rollins didn't hold his weight in this case I disagree I think I mean Seth Peter I disagree I wouldn't say someone one up the other I think they both were perfect in giving each other the corrective on a jabs to kind of get us to next we can kind of add because this was a match that we were kind of thinking was going to happen at WrestleMania so we're kind of speeding it up in a case I'm I'm in the camp now that I think it's going to be like a trilogy they're going to have more matches this yeah there's no a possible way that this is a one-off no way this isn't like people are calling oh this is promo of the year this is the best promo of time no this not even I think this was great they come back here they this was like if if 10 is is the most right then they held back to like a seven or an eight right I think they they have a ten in their back a hundred percent if they have a match at WrestleMania yeah that's when we're gonna get that ten this this feels like the nice little checkpoint they're gonna wrestle it's gonna be good they got personal do they do they cool off and then revisit each other do we carry this for a few months into April but yeah no I'm I I want this to last forever yep where I'm surprised we're getting at this early surprise we're getting it on raw Netflix but but we're here and and and it's what we've been waiting for and we're here it is what we've been waiting for and I think raw Netflix they're treating it like a wrestling yeah uh-huh it's gonna be crazy so it makes you know I get why they're having it here especially if they're gonna have more matches because you can do like remember my nose keep going go ahead they like royal rumble they can interact uh elimination chamber if they have uh if they put both those men in the men's elimination chamber they can interact there they can do a bunch of things in the meantime leading up to WrestleMania to kind of uh to kind of continue their feud without them fighting and then if you want to do WrestleMania and then maybe you do like SummerSlam or whatever it may be but this promo last night I think was good enough where we were already hyped up for the Netflix match uh on raw Netflix but I think this really took it to that next level they didn't get physical last night uh it was just a pure mental game and it's it got me hyped up I want to speak for both of us but I think it's fair to say that we're both fucking hyped up for next week and whatever I honestly uh same thing with Drew and uh CM Punk their first match I have no idea who's gonna win no I I have no clue I think like CM Punk to my head I'd say Punk again I don't know because he just won WarGames and he won the he won the feud with Drew Seth Rollins I think is someone that does like in the triloges that he's had he's had trilogies at she's had trilogies with fucking um what I just blanked I can't think of him uh blah blah blah blah but Cody Rhodes and uh some other people I might be missing he does over the last few years he has a bad track record of winning feuds and stuff I think it would be right for Seth Rollins to win at least this first one because it is like Seth the last two years has defended the company from two guys that have come in yeah from guys that have yeah supported the competition like Cody Rhodes started the competition and CM Punk got a big chunk of change from the competition got fired and then came over after shitting on the company Seth Rollins lost the feud to Cody Rhodes in that case I don't think it's crazy if Seth Rollins won this feud over CM Punk especially if you want to give him that character of like defending WWE he's the WWE guy and all that but I want to see him CM Punk winning like like I don't know you so you you're talking not just this match the feud in general yes um I I'm with the I mean it's and it's a little bit it's not so much this but a little bit of like CM Punk is the veteran yes and Seth isn't like the new guy anymore by any stretch the imagination but Seth is gonna be at the top of wrestling for longer than like punk's got a few more years than right like like Seth's got some more shelf life yeah I do think just because he's CM Punk and he is still a special attraction it feels like he doesn't need to win every single feud like like a Cody um yeah I'm with you I think it would be way more beneficial to Seth if Seth ends up coming out on top of this feud I don't know if it's gonna happen I that's a thing I have no clue but I'm with you it's because I I mean I am a storyline picking sides man I get Seth Seth I get Seth I mean I and I if you don't understand where he's coming from the sense of like defending a company and everything CM Punk did when he was gone was wrong mm-hmm shitting on the right right going to the competition and he admitted during the promo last night is I said I came here to make money and next week I'm gonna make a whole lot of money so now if you look at if you just look from the face what kind of face you cheer for that you know you're cheering cuz it's CM Punk right you know who he is and everything but in the grand scheme of things Seth Rollins is the baby phase here he's the one in the right you know and so and you could have said the same thing about Drew if you wanted to show Drew and and CM Punk but yeah it's I don't know I think both sides have a fair argument of who's gonna come out top on top of this match and feud in general and I love the unpredictability of it I think that's what's gonna make this so great I'm locked in I'm buckled in but man I guess now with Seth loses I'll feel bad with a guy I would now that we're talking more about it I think even just not even about the whole few but but on Netflix I think I think Seth should beat Punk on on Netflix I do I do think I don't know now the question is are they gonna main event because I they so my goal said they were and then there was uh they were like no Roman Reigns and so the one being hyped up as the main event but then last night they said Ron Netflix headlined by CM Punk versus Seth Rollins. Headlining and main eventing could be too different to WWE headline could mean an hour and a half this is the biggest match the night but we're not putting it in the main event they because the fuck is coming back Roman and solo or main eventing I don't think they should I mean it's another it's another drew in punk hell on a cell thing and that's why I would think that CM Punk would main event to kind of give them that okay we let that main event here you can main event here I think obviously the bloodline stories are going on for longer so in that case like sure like that they'll get the main event but I think more people care about Seth and CM Punk's view right now than Roman and solo succoa the only reason why Roman succola main events is if the rock returns that is yeah and we said the same thing about that we said the same thing about bad blood that's what happened so we can get that uh I yeah they should they definitely should I don't know it's interesting huh I'll have to find out um um but yeah I guess that's that's that's it for Ron let's let's see have anything more on that segment I'm fired up I'm looking forward to Ron Netflix and it's gonna be a great show yeah and hours now we're back three hours um yeah I'm excited so I mean it's gonna be good I told Taylor I said do we have plans on January 6 she goes no I go to DC I put our flight to DC um I said well keep it that way I have from 8 to 11 I am locked in watching Netflix yeah I'm not with you I'm not being taken away from the TV there all right we got we got worlds and to cover we got these for this no no I was thinking this and I was like I don't remember doing it but maybe we didn't um so all right uh we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna bounce match to match here we got the opener here we'll all spray defeats Kyle Fletcher to advance in the continental classic this what's this fucking ron unbelievable match but bloody instantly on the first three minutes of the on the pay-per-view Kyle Fletcher Lickin will osprey's blood now this was fucking awesome what an opener yeah unbelievable opener it's crazy that um I mean it makes sense but they had the two uh the matches leading up to the finals uh at the end of the night so some of these guys so double-duty yeah so which was pretty cool to see it um yeah I I have more to talk about like the the finals of this match like this Kyle Fletcher is the future 100% will osprey is just still will fucking osprey um what was I gonna say use the styles clash as a finisher at the way which is a lot of people are like he's using the styles clash and it's like just a transition move and shit like that he's kind of taken away from the you know the mystique finish of it but he finished it here so people were we're happy about that online I saw it and then we had Ocada defeating ricochet to advance in the continental classics run in the ropes so fucking funny I'm glad we're getting like he's still like technically a heel and he's still doing his like flipping people off Ocada yeah um but it's it's comedy it's comedy heel but it's comedy heel and now it's leaning more face especially with the bucks kind of a way um and then I saw a funny thing with this is like uh which I don't this match was solid ricochet looked good it is great it's not crazy but it's it's interesting what they're doing with ricochet how he's just kind of like he's doing a heel just kind of the bitch of AW as well and people are throwing toilet paper at him yeah I see where they're going here but I'll tell you what they are walking on a fine they're walking on a very thin rope here because if they mess this up they're gonna make ricochet look like an idiot yeah man it needs to pay off this type of story needs to pay off because of what people take out of this is his annoying laugh and this head getting slapped in toilet paper that's that's that's not a good look I mean do I you know lead to something do I super care about ricochet at this point like no it's I don't know it's weird I like that they're giving him something like he's not he's not just another member of AW it's not he all the signs high flyers are gonna go and have great matches but there's more to him than that they're giving him they're giving him my time they're giving him Sutton to at least you know have some character um he did a thing with the hurts and the kit I don't know if you know that'll continue but yeah if it leads to him joining them I think that would be uh you know a good move for him with a mouthpiece of MVP yeah so I think that's that's all he needs really because we know he's great in the ring but uh another another comment I saw about this I thought was funny he's like uh Okada he's still even Okada half-assing a match is still better than like most wrestlers on the planet but like uh one of the we'll talk about like the the final of this but uh but people were like oh yeah Okada Okada gave ricochet this is me talking but he was Okada gave ricochet nothing and then put on a one of the best matches of the year he was on autopilot for the first match and he was like okay I'll give you about three three and a half stars here and I'll give you five to six right um hey when you're one of the best ever you can do that all right moving on to Mariah Meg defeating Thunder Rosa in a Tijuana street fight this was all so great this was fucking crazy finish uh going through the table at the end I put into the pile driver yeah um yeah dude Mariah Meg she's she's incredible even though there was a pile driver on the apron too right that's that was the big yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I do I just remember the um the closing spot yeah but yeah I like this because it was a new opponent from Mariah Meg and Thunder Rose is great Thunder Rose is great um she obviously was a former world champion has kind of been in and out the last uh year or so injuries other things going on but um cool to see her in this position again Mariah May is having a great yeah run has changed so far generational and uh you know Tony Storm is in the shadows she's doing her her own thing right now so it's nice that they're kind of separating them I'm glad Tony came out obviously and made the appearance but like they're not super tying them in like Mariah May really isn't focusing on that she was focused on Thunder Rosa so keeping that in the background but also focusing on other feuds and such it was nice to see like these two thrive in like the sort of sort of match we don't see a lot I guess in the women's division period but like we haven't seen much of like Mariah May or like I mean Thunder Roses had her Mariah and like a stream type of right she had that match with Britt Baker yes um but these these two thrived I I mean Thunder Rosa we know is great but this was just another another uh checkpoint in the Mariah May career of like oh Mariah May is the future of what's interesting she's the future and now I gotta stop I gotta get out of the habit of saying like so and so is the future because she's the fucking champion she is right now but no I get what you mean you know she's still in the now and the future and the grand scheme of things she still is very uh young and new right to all this and the AW especially so yeah I mean it's she's the world champ but she's still just getting started yeah at Sierra you'll always find apparel footwear and gear for 20 to 60 percent less than department especially store prices but right now it's clearance time so you could save even more on everything you need to get active and outside visit your local Sierra store today MJF defeats Adam Cole in terms of finally hopefully end this feud right we're over we're done we're done it's a fun match for what it was I mean at the end of the day it's MJF Adam Cole but like and they we're long overdue for this match yeah they did it it happened but I think it was also for the dynamite diamond ring which like who gives a shit he is still the only one to have ever held and won the AW diamond ring so this ended I might as well just call it the MJF diamond ring right just half him defended every year this ended with kind of an undisputed era reunion with Kyle O'Reilly you know kind of finally riding with Cole and then the two uh Matt Taven and watch his face Mike Mike Bennett yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah sure listen man whatever I'm uh I don't know if this is a hot I don't know how I feel about MJF right now I don't know if it's this feud or what it is but since he's been back I just I haven't been bought into him I don't know what it is so I think it's all booking I don't think anything to do it no I know I think it is the booking and stuff and like obviously this story is like the American the end third national champion was fun I was fun I like I really wish they extended it was short a little longer I and I saw this tweet and I I don't I'm not saying I agree with it or anything like that but it was someone pointed out that he feels like MJF may have outgrown AEW in the case of like he became bigger than like I don't know how much of a bigger star he can become an AEW or it's like what is left for him to accomplish or like top like at this point I mean AEW has been around for like five years now and it's like his promos his promos are still great but even the last few months it's like not rinse and repeat but it's like okay you have this line now it's like plug and play this person's name instead of last but she and it's like cheap crowd reaction we feel like we've hit prime and p a wm jf all right and I I don't want to say that because I feel like he's still so young like he's our age and like he still has so much room to go but I feel like even like him dabbling into Hollywood and kind of getting himself going there it seems like he's really setting himself up to be this he's I think he's become a bigger star than AEW itself and I'm not trying I'm not saying that to shit on AEW I'm not saying that to shit on MJF or nothing that's just what I feel like I've seen over the last few months and I'm not saying they can't correct it or like 2025 things get reset and post this feud maybe they have something lined up for MJF and everything I'm saying is irrelevant but that's just how I've been feeling the last few months of MJF my my take is it's very similar it's down the same path but a little a little diverging we're like um of similar thinking in the sense of MJF should be presented as the biggest star because he is the biggest star in the W I agree and him doing the international stuff with Will Osprey was great but it still wasn't like the main event uh this Adam Cole stuff is finally over hopefully we're moving on but it is just shocking and confusing that MJF isn't in in the world title picture or at least like at minimum you want to cool off on the world title picture involving him just like being presented as your biggest star that's what it is for me and I think uh uh I I'm not necessarily totally on board that like I totally get the thought process of like right he feels like his I he is the biggest star um I don't know how much I'm I agree with the the outgrowing AW thing but if he he deserves and should be presented as the biggest star and and if he's not I wouldn't blame him for leaving to go to a place where he would be presented as a big star so that unfortunately uh not only do uh sign an extension we also got a tattoo on his leg but what we talked about that too is low enough for you covered that up with a boot no one's extension a couple years five years oh yeah he did sign like a problem and obviously things can happen and whatever but yeah I don't know this again I don't know if I fully agree with that statement like I said him outgrowing AW it's just it's an interesting observation and I'm not completely against it I I see where that argument is coming from and I think the argument I think comes from more of like kind of what I'm saying like frustration of like sure you know you should be treated you have MJF which I'm hoping I think we're going to come out of this view now it's over had to close the circle close this out and the chapter here I think going forward maybe we'll cool off like for a few weeks or a month later but I think we're gonna or I think and I hope and I speculate that MJF we're gonna get in 2025 coming out of this feud is gonna be we're back to MJF is the guy you know and you said you know they wanted to take time off from the world title picture kind of separate him well he was away from the title picture all of 2024 so I think a year is good enough I know they have the whole John Moxie thing going on here and we'll get into it and all that whatever at the end but yeah I'm optimistic about MJF MJF still had like my match of the year was was iron match with will yes so I thought so like like to you know to counterpoint like the some of the stuff that you saw I'm not saying that's what you said but the stuff you saw is like MJF is still that fucking guys yes but it's it's really just AEW not allowed not putting him in that position that he deserves he should be the Cody Rhodes of of AEW you know but he was one that could you imagine if he was the one that burnt down Swerve's house like I'm obviously kidding but I think they should like he should be it's he's the you know fucking evil heel let him do evil shit don't let him take cheap jabs at guys and getting cheap pops like have him do evil shit that's what I want to see but we have we have old man on dispute Arab that's right thank god thank god uh Tekasha defeats powerhouse Hobbes to retain uh I don't have much to say about this it was solid it's not it was probably some of the best we've seen of Hobbes this wasn't uh this wasn't uh Tekasha's 10 out of 10 just uh it was a a filler match yeah uh good filler match yeah it was solid big men over like this car this event was fucking great for what it's worth they they they put uh the car together well for sure um so yeah I'm excited not just like breeze over that like I don't have much to say about it I'm excited for Tekasha in 2025 I think Tekasha uh 2025 is gonna be a monumental year for Tekasha and uh this was kind of the start of it definitely a few guys um that we can uh an AEW that we can hope for that have massive years to catch to absolutely being one of them oh another person I thought we were kicking off a massive year with did lose this next match Mercedes Monet defeated Chris Stattlander and uh in their second uh their rematch their number two they were building it which if they're already building this is number two we're probably gonna number three um yeah I I don't know I guess I had the same prediction as whatever the last uh pay-per-view was for AEW were again I thought Stattlander was winning it I thought her losing the first one going this being world's end and going into 2025 I thought we were getting a big title change in Chris Stattlander winning it and then Mercedes moving on to the world title maybe uh this was a great it was probably the best Mercedes match we've seen in AEW uh I had a really fun time this was great you have it written down oh yeah the second note um the second note here is this was about 23-24 minutes long uh which is a record length for a woman's match in AEW uh which like the the critique that I mean AEW is just under such a microscope or like no matter what they do people are gonna say something people are gonna say something people like this should have happened forever go this oh how does it take five years to happen more so whatever oh I can't believe that they've never had a match to salon it's more so me looking back at some matches me like that match really wasn't like 20 plus match like breaking thunder rose I'm just like that match wasn't like 20-30 minutes long am I surprised it hasn't happened already yes but like I'm not it's I'm not I'm not here sitting like oh AEW doesn't care about their woman's division or anything like that that's the reason they're nothing it's for over the past five years they've they've and if you're gonna just do that all this that's the argument always comes out of comparison if you're gonna compare AEW's booked their woman's division better than WWE has like a lot of the time it's you know WWE's had it then AEW's had it whatever but like AEW's done a great job of booking their woman's division they've had great world champions you know sure there's been ebbs and flows here you know their their woman's tag isn't isn't really anything huh yeah I think they like I think you mentioned like I think it's been like uh back and forth right kind of like all right w has a woman better woman's division now a w does I definitely think like when a w started like with the whole book baker stuff with the thunder roses what the um Jamie hater Jamie like I think those were p like a w woman's division was better yes than w we is I think I think tony storm over the last year was the head and shoulders better than any other woman's wrestling in the a w division I think she carried that division if she wasn't around this year I think w we's woman's division would have cleared a w's but I think it is a nice like I'm also saying w we not counting nxt yeah let me say that yeah that's yeah for sure but yeah I think it is like I don't know you want to critique a w for not treating their woman well but it's like w we doesn't have a a great track record of over the years either book and tag divisions been booked through since the title you know how to do this whole revolution of give diva's a chance years ago and even like we complain now like over the last few months like bianca and jade we're having one two-minute matches right it's like if you want to critique that that's fine but you can also look at w we and they're doing the same thing if not somewhat worse so it's just a statistic for people to be like this shouldn't happen again it's a statistic battle gap being like oh I'm I'm surprised they they're having been a match that's like all it is I'm surprised not I'm surprised it hasn't been because because there's been so many great a w woman's champions so I'm surprised I was happening but it's not like yeah it's it's it's a no I'm we're on the same page there um but overall to circle back sorry go I was gonna say I I didn't think christatlander was gonna be okay I was gonna bring it back to this man just because Mercedes is still like she's Mercedes yeah she's still kind of not new to a w i i want to make it seem like she just debuted but I really think that she's the biggest name yeah she's the double chant I just think they they have more for her to do with the spell or these belts um and Chris satlander should get hers next year I think you said that's like more so that's like my whole thing it's like I really think it's gonna be stat like stat layers the next up you said to catch the huge year for him right 2025 same thing for chris I think she should have a huge 2025 um it is funny and this is kind of a conversation also leading into the next match with the continental title but it's like if you look at the I mean maria may is great as the a w woman's champion correct but like you also have Mercedes with the tbs title and this match with statlander made it feel like the most important woman's title continental classic you had fucking ocada versus will all spray yeah you want to know that's the continental title that's not the world title right i mean sort of swapped maria man thunderosa for mercedes and statlan i feel like you could have just swab on the card on the card because that because then you put the a w woman's world title oh agree yeah yeah and then it makes it feel more important because yeah if you put the tbs spell i get it mercedes marne is the bigger name uh you put her later on but i think it would have been pretty beneficial to the world championship if it was um towards you know one of the last matches it is just weird how like how their world title division is booked versus like the mid-card titles but like you know like i was like mercedes and statlander and ocada and osprey we're both better than their preceding uh world title division you know what i'm sure uh but anyway not not to harp on that either way though um i'm not not like i'm sad mercedes one i just would have been more happy of chris war but like i said this was the best we've seen of mercedes in a w um obviously two to ten go shop chris yep uh this is fun this is a good match um i'm excited to see where mercedes gonna keep taking the tbs championship absolutely all right we got a very late match the year contender here in kazuchka ocada defeating will osprey to retain the continental championship in the finals of the continental classic uh the i mean the the cool part of this too was like you said way earlier is they both wrestled earlier night yeah they came back later in the finals will osprey was yeah right with the bandage yes he was this was awesome yeah that was a great match uh two of the best in the world two of the best ever going at it was this was the ocada that people have wanted to see coming from new japan uh there was this i'm gonna get the numbers wrong but it's something like this i tried looking it up i couldn't find it but between will osprey and ocada they fought like eleven or twelve times will osprey has only beat ocada like two or three times okay so ocada's beat will like nine times okay so that's kind of the maybe i think it makes it like he's like the older vet and stuff i think ocada was kind of the face of new japan as well was coming up and everything so yeah that makes sense if i if we were doing predictions my my prediction would have been will taking it uh but like after this match it was like oh either one could have won this was fucking awesome it was awesome it was awesome but then at the end of all of it we see a return from mr oh right yeah how not even i was like in mind i was like what i honestly totally forgot about that yeah kenny's back bro that's what i mean and it's kind of going on what i'm talking about two of like like the continental classic continental championship versus the world championship is like in this bro you had will osprey and ocada having matched the year the main event and then kenny returning they should have been invented and then that final image of ocada and kenny should have been event and then you're and then you that's not the world no are you crazy that if you just showed someone this and they're like oh yes that's like their world title picture right nope no it's one of their big three mid gets one of their three mid card titles um yeah dude kenny's back he looks great fighting next week it's coming up it's he has a match japan yeah i think it's within the next week um yeah it came as it came back as like an evp gave ocada the the belt at the end so they're obviously we're previewing that match the suit looks great don't know if like i don't know if kenny's gonna go back to like full-time immediately in a w like i know he's having the match in new japan i can picture him kind of like being this evp in a suit for a few months and then like makes his comeback and all that stuff but um fired up i am too i i i i fucking wish this main evented i think this would have been a great closer to the show i will get to the main event and what happened there but this i mean these are your three biggest stars yeah you could say or at least the three most technically gifted wrestlers in your company and like i feel like this was such a big moment that got overshadowed by what happened afterwards which um before we move on just a couple of things about the match though like i i'm trying to think back on it like that final sequence of well in ocada just going fucking a hundred miles a minute uh will osprey countered the um the rainmaker into a fucking spanish fly uh counters on counters uh i uh forget what what what ended it but i mean i think uh ocada finally hit the the um the rainmaker i'm but like yeah i i i had a ball if this if if the stash you wore which i'll say this i think of the new thing of the stash you wore is everything post-dash awards now for the new year so which i don't know how if in in exactly almost exactly year if i'm going to remember to be like oh wait ocada versus osprey right in december 2024 you know what i mean but like um an early contender for match of the year in 2025 yeah i think we can you know it's the year uh post-ashy pre-section right sure that's exactly year yearly awards uh but yeah i the the preview is it all in was that the banner ahead of was it all out in texas all in um yeah that's what that's definitely where they're setting it up because that that's in july jr. july it's in the summer so that's what i'm saying something else what's the other thing they were hyping up they had two pay per few banners it was all in wasn't dynasty was it dynasty i don't know what it was dynasty coming up i have no clue always revolution revolution revolution it was revolution and maybe it was also dynasty i don't know i i just remember the all in because it was it's a texas it looks like a buckle and and shit like that um yeah fired up fired up all right we'll move on to the main event here um we're coming down to the end of the show we'll end on this we had john moxley defeating orange casty j white and hangman adam page retain the aew championship there was obviously some death riders uh um um interruption here uh my take is like the match was fun like it's four of the best wrestlers on the planet or in this match um it ended like right as like it was hitting that gear like at its peak it ended um we didn't even get like much of its peak like right when it hit it like it ended um john mox retain which i don't think was the wrong decision no 25 the the right move um but then more i guess as we were kind of overshadowed the match and whatever we had which we haven't talked about this i've been i've been kind of talking about it on on twitter too and um curious to hear your thoughts it sounds like we're on the same page about it uh but ftr returned boom whoa crazy hell yeah whatever wait a minute but they're standing there but there's an open spot uh-huh in the middle of them you think you know me we got the return of adam coplin uh deemed rated ftr on the screen i do like the name i do like the name um they come in they come they confront mox and the rest of the death riders um i believe we're gonna we're getting the six man tag match on diet as that been announced i think i i honestly i think there's a six man tag match on diet i might announce but like the bigger story obviously also is uh adam coplin and moxley uh their program is kind of seeing what we're gonna kick off 2025 for the AW championship um yeah i i've i've i've been i feel like you've been you've been kind of itching to itching to give your peace i've been kind of talking so i feel like we're gonna be on the same page either way so go ahead i i feel like i love it no i know i actually feel like i'm gonna come across as such a hater in like i feel like i'm not too far behind you what i said with mjf earlier too i think people are just really gonna hound me on this one oh i am so disinterested in this storyline i i actually can't believe how little i care about this considering how much of a big deal they made out of fucking killing brian danielson yeah doing this whole not when the announcer is so uh jr or someone goes um oh moxley's bubble buzz like but why is he doing this and there's just radio silence there still is no explanation of why he's doing this where shay mcman who's pulling strings if there's like there's been no explanation of this story every single week and i love john moxley i do but every week when he cuts a promo it's the same fucking or just going in circles with this story and like we're getting the fatal four weeks great again you said like for the best wrestlers yeah you can't go wrong with that but the match ended way too pretty lackluster pretty lackluster i just i already felt like the direction we're going down was pretty wacky but now you're having a 50 year old who joined AEW a year ago coming into defend a w from a guy that's been there for five years right with two guys even with ftr yeah or later on and i just i just don't get it i don't understand like why like adam copeland returning awesome i love adam copeland i love ftr this isn't for i don't think this is the story for them i don't think this is the story where adam should have returned i don't think adam copeland isn't defeating john moxie for the world championship it's not a believable opponent for him it's not a believable guy that could dethrone him in the grit like there's no plot or really big ex relation to all this but the end i still feel like i know that darby is gonna pin moxley and then christian's gonna cash in the contract on darby like although i don't know what's happening in the story i feel like i already know how it's gonna end you know and i i don't think like predictability is okay like oh they should they should hook in the stance to remember the show look but they like it's okay to be like okay like we know where it's going but like i don't know how we're gonna get there but i still know what's happening i just i i feel like i'm coming off as a hater i just i'm i'm so i'm just so like out of this story i just don't care i don't have much of a problem with the death riders and moxley um he cut a promo i think it was on dynamite and it made me pretty optimistic for 2025 with the death riders and john moxley um and like i like i said i i i'm with you we're like i'm also like the story isn't isn't awesome um but i'm less so on them but my main thing is i i where i agree with you a hundred percent is the adam copeland ftr thing like i also fell pretty flat i think the the crowd also didn't even seem to give a shit especially after you already got your kenny return exactly whatever was 20 minutes ago yeah um i you know i i i love copeland i love ftr rated ftr is sick the person that designed the raid ftr t-shirt followed us on twitter the other day oh really yep so shout out them um i would love them to win the trios belts i i think that would be great yeah but the world championship i just i i think where trios belts is still claudio pack and um and uda right yes uda i i think where i come from too is like like where we're coming from and how the story is being presented when it started like this was meant to be like presented as this could be the biggest storyline in a w history like retiring daniel said right yeah emoxley flipping a w upside down someone maybe a higher pat whatever it may they lost the plot of like like like a w versus a w like that's where we seem going it's like yes exactly so i mean less i'm not saying they can't turn things around and in 25 maybe you know it it gets better yeah but right now where we are i could care less about the story that's a shame and i want to care not to not to reiterate what we already talked about but like it plays into where you look at your continental classic uh division and you had okada versus will osprey and you have kenio mega coming in challenge okada and that's not your world title and then you look at what the world title picture is which is supposed to be bigger than you know the fugging mid card and it's a 50 year old adam koplin versus a fairly uh for me more so a fairly directionless or more more so confusing um direction sort of john moxley the niches it's just well you're telling me you're telling me koplin and mox you're gonna main event over kenio kada it's gonna happen but it's like ah do we really do we care the the final the fatal fory match was a match filled with four amazing wrestlers that it didn't deliver i would so it wasn't like a five star match we'll say yeah and the return was a little bit underwhelming the match before them had two of the best wrestlers they did deliver and they had a return that fans just swap the best all like swap the belt because i'm saying yeah swap the belt or just swap the placement because it's like we were saying edge return the crowds like oh we already got our big return but hey guess what if edge returned i keep saying edge if adam koplin returned and then kenny returned at the end they would they would wouldn't be tired they would still cheer for kenny and then you also would have gotten like the the narrative of we had the adam koplin return and then we got a kenny return exactly right now it's yeah we got the kenny return and then we ended it with the the koplin return and that's the program and like whatever yeah i you know um world's end made me pretty optimistic about a w in general as a whole sure especially with uh you know mercedes okada will mariah um the list goes on of course there's bright spots but it was this was a wild way to end it was crazy what it really was uh but yeah and we'll see where it goes we'll see where they take um like i said on dynamite i'm almost positive they they have the the six man tag book with with um let's see if they choose yeah i guess it's easy to find out right um and then and then once you once you find that out that is the show and we'll head over to patreon.com slash slash club wrestling for an entire bonus episode an exclusive podcast over there where it's a Q&A and we're answering questions and we're i saw some films yeah i saw some films did you actually i think i've i've seen your uh your your letterbox sorry your tweets yes so uh ftr in the hometown of ashfield north carolina dynamite who was called down ftr ftr's hometown oh wednesday yeah yeah and it's fight for the fallen so it's especially so who's on the other side uh moxley claudio uda okay versus uh rare ftr okay yeah i don't know yeah well let's some some somehow maybe we'll be tuned in we will be seated um all right kind of kind of leaving on deflating notes sorry uh thank you everyone i guess this is our yeah this is our final episode of 2024 um thank you everyone for a great and monumental in 2024 for stash club wrestling only on to bigger and better things 2025 is going to top 2024 i'm telling you not ending 2024 like aw did it work we're not having we're not having a 50-year-old uh big nit come on in hey you're not our boss anymore oh okay anyways anyways oh uh patreon.com slash stash that wrestling from bonus pod and you get you you get a little more of that yeah um and yeah i guess i guess yeah i don't i don't know i don't feel the need to be i don't know i'm not gonna get too sentimental but i but but thank you everyone for that so much for the past year and i think i think everyone i feel like we did our sentiment we've been doing our sentiments and i think this is you know to cap this one off everyone have a good and safe new year new year's eve you're going out tonight or whatever have a miller high life on me um and yeah yeah i'm excited i'm excited to go into 2025 uh with with you sofi and everyone coming along for the ride hey big year for us brother i'm excited i can't wait 2025 is gonna be cool thank you guys for the support we want to be here without you and we will see you, we'll see you all next year, that's true, peace.
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