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Awkward... 2025 The Year Of The Ho

Duration:
34m
Broadcast on:
02 Jan 2025
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Happy New Year, and welcome to 2025: The Year of the Ho! πŸŽ‰ In this episode, Jason and Stephanie dive into the wild holiday chaos, juicy neighborhood gossip, and the ongoing struggles of being the most talked-about couple in the PTO. From navigating nosy neighbors and judgmental glances to sharing our thoughts on how our unconventional lifestyle makes us stronger as a family, we’re not holding back.


We also talk about:

β€’ How we separate work from family life πŸ’Όβž‘οΈπŸ‘¨β€πŸ‘©β€πŸ‘§β€πŸ‘¦

β€’ The challenges and rewards of being adult creators

β€’ Exciting new filming ideas for 2025 (think hot wives, secret spouses, and erotic photo shoots πŸ“ΈπŸ”₯)

β€’ Why judgment from others won’t stop us from living our truth πŸ’ͺ


Plus, we share updates on our favorite products (looking at you, Kums Chocolate 🍫), new advertiser opportunities, and our plans to offer free relationship coaching sessions for a few lucky couples.


As always, we keep it real, raw, and awkwardly fun. Don’t miss it!


πŸ‘‰ Check out the TikTok Shop: Awkward Pillow Talk

πŸ‘‰ Visit our site: VirginitySnatchers.com

πŸ‘‰ Email us for coaching inquiries or partnerships: AwkwardPillowTalkPodcast@gmail.com


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You're listening to the awkward pillow talk podcast. We're Jason and Stephanie Class. We've been professional adult content creators for over five years. We're here to talk about all things sexy and awkward. This content is explicit, so you must be a chair order to watch or listen. These are our real life stories. So if any of that offends you, we'd like to say, fuck you. Visit virginitysnatchers.com to get in on the fun. Happy 2025. Yeah, welcome. The Year of the Ho. That's what we're going to call it. It's going to be the Year of the Ho. Okay. It's been a little bit since our last one. Yeah, it's right before Christmas. It's right before Christmas. So I hope everybody had, you know, good holidays. Absolutely. Obviously it's been a little crazy for everybody. We had family coming into town. We, you know, had to be parents, kids are out of school, all that kind of stuff. But, you know, we found out some gossip, I suppose, over the, uh, the break that our next door neighbor has been like straight up calling people and being like, Hey, did you know what they do for work? Like, I guess I'm showing my age by going like this. You are. But it feels. You have to slam the phone down. But, uh, apparently, yeah, she's just been like going and telling people. Like for months. For months to the point where like the PTO notes. At a kid's school. So, uh, we'd like to say thank you. You have supported. I mean, really, thanks for like, you know, taking away the ability for us to, you know, control our own narrative. Because well, yes, we told everybody in our family and our like close circle of friends. We were just getting to know the people at school. In a sense. And, uh, yeah, it's not like we're predatory. We don't go after people were, you know, I mean, you and I both were such goody goods in high school, all through public schools that I'm pretty sure neither of us ever got a referral. Right? No. Yeah. Never got detention. Never got anything like that. I am not a rule breaker. We are not the people that are supposed to be in this role. Right. But that's what makes this role. A lot of fun. Fun for us. Right. More interesting for other people is because we're not the people that were like, Hey, we're going to become porn stores, right? Right. Um, so when you meet us, if you know us outside of it, and I think that if you find out what it is that we do, it's probably a bit of a surprise. Right. What our job is has nothing to do with the rest of our life, right? Like everything stays separated with the kids. I mean, it's, it's like another person's job. Like, okay, you, I mean, yes, we work from home, but go to the office. You work nine, five, you come home. That's done. And then you focus on school or not on school, sorry, on family. It's the same thing. Like we have separate lives. Our job does not make us who we are. It is not the only thing about us that makes us who we like, I don't know if that makes any sense. It does, but it's, I mean, I think it needs to be said too. Like it, this isn't really something that we like sought. You know, we weren't like, we're going to make a goal to one day become full time adult creators. No, no, this just is something that just happened and we're like, you know, is this something we want to turn down? No, absolutely not because our entire goal from the day that we've met has been to spend as much time with each other as possible. Right. We tried to figure that out. I was doing real estate, right? Right. And we just, it just didn't work. It didn't work. It wasn't vibing. And for a while, we weren't sure that this was going to work in vibe. And then all of a sudden it clicked. And now it's like, as soon as, you know, the economy catches back up, we're going to be like, this is the best thing ever. Right. I hope, I know I'm happy. I get to wake up every day and I don't have to be like, oh, I've got to leave you, you know, in all that kind of stuff. So, I mean, I'm sorry that it makes my neighbors uncomfortable. Shitty that they were the ones that, you know, felt the need to tell everybody. Cause like, I have to assume everybody at school knows, but like, I don't officially know, but like. Yeah, but we've heard from other people that certain people know and they void us now and stuff like that. And other people are like, I just don't care. But it's like, why did you feel the need to go tell anybody? You know what I mean? It was sexy. And I hope that, you know, I'm assuming that people now know where our sites are. They're known to list or podcast. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know anything. Well, if they are, then let me go ahead and put this message out to them. The person who has spread this rumor has much more damning information. Or we have much more damning information against them than they ever have against us, which is why they're spreading this bullshit. We've never been mean to them. We've never done anything other than, you know, over communicate. And then it'd be, you know, very. Like, like, what's the word? We. It's one, it was a one sided communication. Yes. No, it was like we were always inviting them to things and doing this and having their, you know, kids over to play or whatever and never wants. Yeah. So like the fact that they're all of a sudden going from like us being nice to them, us having not done anything wrong to them, to them suddenly attacking us and like literally destroying our character to our neighbors and stuff. You know what I mean? We've got neighbors that will not look us in the eye anymore. Right. It's like, what the fuck, guys? Like, you knew us before this. But now because this douchebag neighbor comes and says, hey, did you know what they are doing? I mean, we've literally even heard that moms are coming up and grabbing other moms away from our group and pulling them away so that they don't have to be near us. Right. But the moms that are being pulled away don't care, but they feel pressure to go with the other moms and they, you know, end up making their way back to us. But it's really, it's a really odd dynamic that I never really thought that I'd. Have to fully deal with. I mean, we'd always kind of talked about this being like our nightmare scenario. You know what I mean? Where everybody knows, and I will say it is not the nightmare scenario. No, but it's still soft. It's still soft. It's not fair. Because it's just not fair. That's what it comes down to. But it's not going to stop me from doing what we're doing. Right. It's, you know, if you really want to dive into this, like, ethically, I've said it a thousand times, I know that we're on the ethical side of, you know, the industry. We do nothing illegal. I mean, right. It just sucks. There was something I was going to say, but now I forgot. It was about. It's okay. Maybe it'll come to you. Maybe it was about the school and the. Oh, part of me is like, you know, it's one of those things where like. Old me would have just crawled in a hole and died, knowing that everybody knows. And still part of me is like, yeah, that's kind of what I want to do. But at the same time, I'm like, do you stop showing up to school? No, because that's when they're going to start talking even more. So it's like we just have to keep going and. Like my friend said, it's eventually going to blow over something else is going to happen and we're not ashamed of what we do. Other people are ashamed of what we do or they're embarrassed or they're uncomfortable by it. But, you know, our marriage is stronger than I'll put it up against anybody's straight up. And I'll put our relationship with our kids. I think it's anybody's too, because that is what, you know, is bass. Actwards. This might sound the reason that we are in the adult industry. So we could focus on our family unit more. That's exactly what we've done. We've got two fantastic, well behaved, overachieving children. Right. And they've got two parents that love each other unconditionally and love them unconditionally. And are there for them for no matter what. So I'm not sure why you wouldn't want somebody like us in your community. But I would say, hey, maybe reevaluate the facts and go after the person that's trying to kick us out of your community. Because we actually bring value to a community. Sure. That's what they're trying to do is to have us, you know, run away with our tails, tuck between our legs. But I'm not going anywhere. Like you can't scare me off. Like it's just, it's going to make them look like shitty people. Because we know that we are good people. If you're going to judge us based on just our job, then okay, fine. You can think of however you want. We are far more than our job. And once you get to know us, you're going to realize that you've probably effed up. Yep. Because we're not going to be malicious. We're not going to like go off and do a full attack like you did, you know, where you called everybody individually and made a big deal about it. Well, just bite our time. Until you mess up. Until you mess up. And when the moment's right, we'll make sure it's known. Yep. So, and we're, we're over, you know, the whole keeping our thoughts to ourselves. The same person needs to break into conversations. To try to interrupt. And alienate us. And if that happens again, if they're listening, just know you're going to be super fucking embarrassed. Or if you know who it is that we're talking about, just. Give them a heads up. Because don't fuck with us. Yeah, I will just embarrass you with facts without even ever having to lie about a single thing. But nothing but proof and evidence. So, I guess here's your truth. Like if you're listening, you're spying in on us, you're spreading all this shit. I'm going to tell you right now that shit needs to stop. Or else it's going to be super fucking embarrassing. Yeah. On a brighter note. That was like so hilarious. It's just crazy that this is always what we have to deal with because of the industry. And for us, this isn't an industry that we had to enter into. Right. We wanted to because of just some happenings. You know what I mean? We came from well off families. Right. So it's not like. Ultra conservative. Right. It's not like oh poor them. They're doing this to survive. Right. We are now because it's our main job. Right. And we made that decision. But like it wasn't before. You had a very successful career. Don't feel pity for us. Don't feel anything like that. Don't feel like oh no. Like I can't believe she's forced. Yeah. Exactly. The forced into this. She must hate it. No. This is us getting to do exactly what we want. We communicate with each other. We say, Hey, would this be fun? It's not just about the adult industry. Like we're podcasters were like. We sell stuff now. Right. And a lot more than just the adult creators. It's our personality. Yes. It started out that way. But like we've kind of molded what we want out of it into something successful. And something that people like whether, you know, they want it or not. Like they know who we are. So. We're going to be replacing some of our advertisers within the first few months of this year. So we've, we've stopped working with fire body. We had a great time working with them. Have no qualms with them whatsoever. Right. But our promotion with them is stopped. Nude pleasures was something that we were super excited to work with. And we'd reached out to you several times. We got a pack of their stuff can say, Hey, it works. But every time we keep reaching out to Morty, he tells us he's going to send us something or whatever. We never hear back. And we're just tired of even though their product works. And we're going to have that commitment back to us. And without getting that back, we're just not going to do anything else with it. So we're going to cut ties with them unless they get back to us and keep up on their commitment with things. Again, it was a product I felt really confident in. Right. But the communication is not there. And it makes me feel like an asshole when I have to continually go back and forth on things. So I'm just not going to do it anymore. They want to be part of this. They're welcome to be part of it. Our podcast has gotten a shit ton of views since October. The advertisers with us have gotten over 40,000 add reads at a minute each. That's 40,000 minutes, essentially, of you and I reading ads for free to companies that are not reciprocating. Right. So if you were a company that is looking to get into this space, we are taking these, we are taking these advertisements directly because on top of everything else that we get kicked out of. Red Circle has decided that we are no longer allowed to actually monetize our ads through them because we sell adult content as pay per view. I'm sorry. It wasn't Red Circle. It's their payment processor Stripe. But apparently that was just Stripe that said that and not Red Circle. Red Circle didn't know anything about the email that Stripe sent me for an entire week. So here I am thinking I'm going to lose my entire podcast. I'm literally already working on trying to see if I can port things over to another thing. And then they finally get back to me and they say, Hey, no, no, no, no. You just aren't allowed to take out any money from the ads that you've earned. So we just lose that money? It's like 10 bucks that we'd earned on there. But still, it is what it is, whatever. That's the fucking adult creator tax, right? Just constantly. Because then when we go to take our money out somewhere, we also get charged in order to take it out and put it somewhere. Anyways, if you're an advertiser that is looking to work with us, we can take payment through ourselves and put you directly into the podcast episodes still. We have full access to go into every single one of our past episodes and upload that commercial still. We just can't have you pay for it through the platform there. We've got other ways to do it though. And it does not matter if you were completely sex brand related or if you were big or if you're small. We're just looking for people that can partner with us and they want to help us grow. Like it's the mutual growth. Yeah, I don't really like, I'm not. I would love to charge, obviously, and get paid for it. But ultimately, at the end of the day, I want to grow this brand and I want to find brands that want to grow with us. Now, with that being said, all this thing about, you know, all these companies not helping us, I will say we are still promoting this one. I've never even heard of this like from this company. I haven't talked to them. I found them on TikTok, on accident. I tried it. Holy cow. It is awesome. It's just this dark chocolate thing. You eat it and it makes the orgasm just 10 times stronger. Yeah. If not more. And longer. I don't understand the science behind it. I don't either. And again, I had somebody ask for like, is it like a placebo effect? I'm like, I don't think so because like, there'll be multiple days after I've had the chocolate that it'll still like, I'll still feel the effects and all of completely forgotten. I've had the chocolate like, it could be two to three days after having it. And then I'm like, wow. Yeah, there's like, what was that? I'm like. There's a difference for sure. Yeah. So if you guys are interested in checking out the TikTok shop on that one, awkward pillow talk is the TikTok go down to our shop and check out comes chocolate every time you buy a box, we get like three bucks or something like that. So make sure you buy a bunch. Give them to your friends. I'm pretty sure if you buy three packs, then you get free shipping. Don't put me on that. Two or three out of our rubber. Maybe it's more. But y'all is legit. We let our friends try it. Yeah. They were like, yes, it worked. Yep. So it's not just us. I really think it's an awesome product and it does essentially what we were hoping to get from the other brand that stopped communicating with us. So in the meantime, if you're looking for something, this is the way to go. I'm not trying to start drama. I just want to say that like we were trying to stay out of the fucking drama, y'all. And the more that we try to stay out of it, God damn it comes at us. It keeps coming, but I'm not going to be chasing after companies anymore. You guys got to come back to me. And if we make an agreement and you don't follow through on it, I'm just going to be done. I can't spend my time anymore chasing after it because it's ridiculous. And there's companies that I'm sure that they feel like maybe they haven't gotten enough back from us. Right. And if that's the case, let us know. Right. Like talk to us. Communicate. Communicate. Because we're all about it. We'll reach out to people and say, Hey, is there something else we can do more for you? Or maybe we missed any email from you. Like, I mean, we are checking in. You know, we are real people, we're parents. We forget things. Right. But let's get a little bit sexy. Oh. So. So. I wanted to break it down in this episode with a few things that you and I are looking for in 2025. Okay. So. Some specific scenarios that I would like to cast. And I figure if we can explain it this way, because I keep on getting people who will come in a scenario. What kind of scenario. So I'm going to, these are our pay-per-view types that we really like to film. And then maybe some ideas that, you know, we've played around with that we wouldn't mind filming. But this is going to be the part of the episode you're going to listen to and be like, okay, now, not everybody's going to have a chance for this guys. Right. Steph has final call and just because you feel like you're the shit, even if you're super attractive and your mom tells you you're beautiful, it doesn't mean that she's going to go for it. The moon has to be the right place in the sky. The sun can't be too hot. The wind can't be too loud. There's a bunch of things to go into it. So I can't tell you exactly. Hey, you're definitely going to get picked. Right. It's just. Just the way it is. There's luck at the draw, but there are certain things that we are looking for in particular. Now, the first one that I think we both agreed on that we wanted to prioritize a little bit was we want to film with a hot wife. We want to do the couple, you and I, with a hot wife, where preferably the husband's there in helping film. Okay. If not, then something we can send back. Right. And be like, hey, check this out. That to me would be hot to somewhere is just like us showing her off. Right. Hey, look at this. You know, looking at your wife. Look at this, you know, things like that. I really, really enjoy that idea of it. And I would love to do a first time so we could actually speak to somebody and be like, hey, now I'm asking a lot there. I get that. It's a lot. I get that. But the second thing we're looking for is some non virgin couples. And very few select dudes. And I say that because I know the mother fuckers are going to come at me hard. They're going to come so hard, but on. But we want to do the erotic photo shoot series again. Right. We want to get back into that. And I thought it would be fun. What if we did that with another couple as a way of doing a swap? That'd be kind of cool. Right. We're like, we pick out, you pick out a magazine and it would be me and the other chick. Yeah. And then I pick out a magazine and it'd be you and the other dude. They'd have to go do it. Right. We're taking each other's pictures kind of thing. Okay. Because we're all still together. You know, but that would be exciting to me. And of course doing it with the solos or with the threesome, whatever as well. Really, I just want to do as many of those erotic photo shoots as we can. Now the key to getting on those. If you want to be part of that there because there's a key. You got to make sure you can stay hard. That is we can do nothing with you in these photo shoots if you have no way of staying hard. And no, unfortunately false confidence doesn't always work in that scenario. So don't be too proud to like, you know, take a blue chew if you have to. That's just how these scenarios work sometimes. Yep. That's okay. Like we're not judging. When you reach out to us, don't say, Oh, you're so beautiful. I've been dreaming of you forever. I've wanted to have this moment. It's going to freak her out and be like, the fuck away from me. She's not looking to fulfill a long time fantasy is something that you dreamed of for. Everything that you dreamed of forever. Cause I don't even know who you are. Yeah, that's a little too much pressure. Yeah. Reach on be like, Hey, I saw that you guys were interested in casting for this. I'm clean. This is where I'm located. Here's my availability. The times that I'm usually able to meet. By the way, Monday through Friday during the day works best for us. If you were to, you know, throw that out there. And willing to willing to sign forms. Yeah. Willing to provide ID. And I understand you're not going to talk to me for three fucking weeks before this. Right. Nonstop. And then I'm going to get cold feet and back out. Yep. So there is a lot that goes into it, but it's real simple guys where you got to be height weight proportionate. And that is really. I don't want to say non negotiable because there's some, there's a little bit of leniency in there, but you got to be hygiene wise and you got to be somewhat attractive. Nobody wants to watch an ugly person necessarily have sex. Respectfully. Respectfully. We are in the business of making money and making things that people want to watch. So. As hard as it might be to hear. We can't help everybody. Right. We have to be mindful and I hate being an asshole in that sense. Right. It just kind of is what it is. You know, I realize that everybody's not going to think that they fall in that part of the category. So like they're going to shoot their shot. But like if you don't hear back from us or you even have a thought that you may fall into the no category and you still don't hear from us, don't keep pushing. Just take that as your sign. Yeah. The best way to like get cut off from us completely is to bomb us with messages. On all the different. On all the different platforms. It's just immediately no. You got to understand we are not here for you. This is not like your personal fantasy. This is our life. We choose. We are in charge. We got to be in charge. So another scenario that we're looking for in this one could be broken off into two different situations is we're looking for a woman. Does not have to be married. Does not have to be a hot wife or whatever. But somebody that wants to come and do a reverse cuckled situation where you're filming. Okay. I'm fucking. And also a girl girl. Okay. Because we had a really good girl girl that we shot a while ago. We don't really sell anymore out of respect. And I would like to do that again because it was really high quality. So if you are a female creator, you're looking to get into it. You're in the central Florida area. You're willing to travel to us. We can certainly film. I can help set you up with all kinds of pictures. We can make it worth your day to come out and film with us essentially. Right. Keep that in mind. And of course, the last thing we're looking for as always are virgins. We have not given up on the Virgin Quest. We're on 21 still. And we plan to keep going to who note. And see, I feel like this is one of those things that like that's what people when they hear probably judge us on the most is a virgin thing. If they even hear about it. If they get that far. But to me it's like if you hear that and you don't know the full context behind it. It sounds bad. It doesn't sound good. No. And that's what worries me about people making their own assumptions of things is when it gets to that it sounds like we're predatory and we're certainly not. Not at all. Like if they even have seen us in real life. They're going to realize no we're just really awkward and non predatory. Like I don't know. I don't know if that makes any sense but like everything is consenting. You know what I mean? There's no like. It is one of those things where like we use stage names. So it's like they would have to really dive into it to find that kind of stuff. I also want to say though. If you are one of these people listening to us and you are okay with it. Please just come up to us and say hey I know what's up. Yeah, sure. Like I heard. I'm cool. You got you know you got your new best friend. You got someone on your side. You'll probably be our new best friend. Honest to God. Because I mean we've been giving people the chance to like back out or back away from us. Like person that told me I told her I was like look I don't want to like put you in between. And she didn't. She didn't you know seem like it was unnecessary thing to back off. And then we told another friend I was like hey. It's like you know this is what's happening. Here's your chance to you know back away and save your social standings. And she said nope you're stuck with us. I was like cool. Those are the people I want. Those are people that are like I don't care. Well those are people that know they've been over here. They know how we separate things. We've got a biometric lock on our fucking bedroom door. Right. You know what I mean. Like it is so secure. We keep it so separated. Right. There's not a moment where like oh let's be lazy and just like forget about this protection for our children. You know what I mean. That's the hardest part of the job is keeping it separated but it's also one of the most important parts for us. Right. Because yeah we're not going to have all these like toys lying around or we're not going to have like. We don't have random people coming through while they're home during the day. Right. The only times they met somebody that like would even be part of that is if it was a friend. Like somebody that like became a friend. Right. And it's only been a handful of times. Right. If that. So it's because we met up with them multiple times and trusted them and they trusted us that everybody was safe and you know the kids could not be aware. I know that sounds bad but like you know it's one of those things where like they're just cool people and they wanted to hang out with us outside of that kind of situation. So we made it work. And you know we have vanilla friends that we do not sleep with. We're just not going to be in point where we're like oh we're going to try to like sleep with you. Obviously you know if you're into this lifestyle you let us know and we're never going to be the people that make the move. Yeah. So like you don't have to worry about me all of a sudden coming up and grabbing an ass chief of your wife or something. Or like start like rubbing on like. It is not who I am. It's not who she is. Everything that we do is very well boundary. Yes. Another thing that Steph and I are looking into getting into. Before I get into that we should say the last filming idea we're trying to do secret spouse again too. If we can get a few couples together. Yeah. Secret spouse is where you one person is blindfolded and they have to guess who their spouse is. So like if it's a group of people. Right. Typically you have three or four couples there. And we would do it that way. It is hilarious. It is hot. Yeah. We filmed it a while back. Amazing. If it's something you're interested in seeing message Justin will figure something out. But it is. Really fun. We would like to do that again. All right. So starting in February, Steph and I are going to start doing some limited coaching sessions with some couples that are looking to spice things up a little bit. Yeah. Now we are not professionals by any means. We should preface that. Yeah. We're two people that just understand communication a little differently. And we think we can provide some perspective to some couples that may be interested. Well, there's just advice or like actual like, I mean, it's not going to be like guaranteed. No, there's no guarantee here. And eventually this may be something we charge for. But for the first three couples that we want to deal with, we want to do it for free. Now the idea with this, and this is the tricky part. And I would understand if nobody signs up for it, but we want to keep these interviews and have them on the podcast. Right. So obviously we would not give out their names. Yeah. We will make sure everything is nice and secure. Right. But what I want to do is essentially assign couple, number one, couple, number two, couple, number three, almost like we do with the virgins. Right. And I want us to be able to track them and say, Hey, here is essentially the scenario that they were in. Here's how they navigated it. I want to be able to take these situations and basically be able to say, Hey, you know, I worked with another couple that was like this before you should listen to this episode and hear how they did it. Right. And how they worked through there. So much of the human condition involves trusting that somebody else has gone and done this before. Right. Knowing that you're not the only one in these situations makes it almost feel better. Like I know that makes it feel less special that like you're not the only one that has this problem. But it also is very comforting knowing that I'm not crazy. I'm not the only one that has gone through. I'm not going to necessarily ruin my marriage or I'm not going to, whatever, because this person is the same exact situation. Right. You can't continually take your advice from couples that don't match what you're going through. Right. Part of our coaching is going to be essentially creating your bubble within your relationship and figuring out how to block out these external factors. How to explore with your partner without feeling weird about exploring with your partner. Because the reason you're going to feel weird isn't probably because you feel like your partner is going to like embarrass you. It's what if somebody else found out about this. Right. That's where it all comes down to. So we want to be able to work on things. We're going to give you exercises and stuff like that that you'll do and then you'll come back the next week and we'll talk about it and we'll see how it worked. Right. Six weeks I think is kind of what I have in my head for the whole process, but who the fuck knows? I could change it on a dime. Y'all know how this works. The ADHD hits and poof. Now, I really don't think I will because as we've proven with the virgins, we've obviously got a track record with wanting to actually help people and that's really the best motivator for me is to actually be able to fully help somebody. So if this is something you're interested in, we promise not to push you into swinging. If that's not something that you're into, if it is something that you're looking into, we can definitely advise you on the first steps or just different ways to kind of start thinking about maybe opening your mind up and just maybe that's what it really is, is opening your mind up sexually. We're not trying to convince you to go on a certain path. We're trying to convince you to open yourself up to allow the path to come at you, so to speak. If it's something you're interested in, email me, the Awkward Pillow Talk podcast at gmail.com and I will send you back a little bit of a survey. It's going to ask questions, I'll ask for a few pictures because even though your picture won't show up anywhere, we want to see what you look like. It helps us. We want to figure out really a lot of the details about your life, personal life, how much time you have together, you've got kids, you've got activities you do together, things like that are going to be what helps Steph and I kind of sit back and be like, "All right, this is how it's going to work better." These conversations that we have with you just know that none of what we tell you is the truth. It is just our opinions on things and how we see them. It's all confidential. Other than the fact, you're going to be listening to it on a podcast. Right. What she means by confidential is your identity will be protected. Yes. I guess that's what I meant. But we really think it would be a lot of fun to be able to do this kind of stuff and eventually, I mean, heck, we can start doing it the same way the version is, "All right, you're ready for your first swap, let's do it." But in due time, if it is something that you're interested in, really, you can do to check out the website to virginitysnatchers.com. We've got a link on there that will get you a hold of us and just make sure you mention that you're interested in that. I don't have the full form up on the site yet. Say, this is still in baby mode. Yeah, I don't have the full form, but just you can just send out an inquiry and be like, "Hey, we're interested." And I know we've got one couple kind of waiting for an email right now. So we will hopefully hear from them and get them on board. We've got some exciting stuff coming up. I'm sure of it. So the next episode that we have, hopefully we'll have a real fun update. I know that we've been speaking to a couple of couples. A couple of couples. A couple of couples. It could just cause I want to have some fun games. I want to do some fun games, you know. It's been a while since we've gotten to do that kind of dirty stuff. And as always, thank you for the support. We have the TikTok shop. Make sure you check that out. Awkward Pillow Talk. Check out these chocolates right there. So fucking legit. Super legit. virginitysnatchers.com, awkwardpillowtalk.com, awkwardtalk.com, and advertisers as well. If you're looking to reach out, the Awkward Pillow Talk podcast at gmail.com is your best bet. Or you can find us on Twitter, Stephanie Class X is going to be your best way to get a hold of us on Twitter. We'll catch you next time.