[MUSIC PLAYING] Hey there, and welcome to Mealtime Magic in Mayhem. The podcast is all about embracing the crazy, messy, and downright chaotic side of family dinners. I'm Tricia, your mealtime mentor and kitchen witch, and let's get one thing straight. This is not your typical how to have a perfect family dinner kind of show. Because honestly, family dinners are rarely perfect. They're loud, they're messy, and half the time someone's crying, and it's not always the kids. But you know what? That's exactly where the magic lives. It's in the burnt toast, the last minute takeout, and the nights when you're eating cereal off paper plates, because it's just life. It's not chasing some Pinterest-worthy mealtime fantasy. It's about reclaiming the table for what it really is, a chance to connect, laugh, and maybe spill a little mine along the way. In each episode, we're diving into the nitty-gritty of what it means to juggle all the things-- dinner, kids, work, maybe your own business, and trying not to lose your damn mind. We'll be talking about turning those daily struggles into connection points and finding joy in the mayhem. You'll hear from some badass guests, moms, coaches, experts who know what it's like to be in the thick of it, and they're not afraid to spill their own tea on mealtime disasters. And I'll be right there sharing my truth, my snark, my sarcasm, and probably an embarrassing kitchen store or two. So whether you're hiding in the pantry for a minute of peace, trying to figure out what's for dinner, or just here for a little company, you're in the right place, let's laugh at the chaos, find the magic, and remind ourselves that mealtime doesn't have to be perfect to be special. Welcome to Mealtime Magic in Mayhem, where the mess is part of the magic, and every meal is a new chance to connect, or at least survive with your sanity intact. Welcome back to Mealtime Magic in Mayhem. I'm your host Tricia, and today we have an incredibly special guest joining us-- Tanya, Elena, Gonzales, Ortega. She's an artist, visionary, energy healer, and educator with more than two decades of experience and energy healing. Tanya's journey has taken her from learning with spiritual masters in India to deep work and non-duality and beyond, including her profound Kundalini awakening that brought forth these incredible spiritual gifts. What makes Tanya so powerful is how she uses these gifts from clear buoyants, clear audience, astral travel, and more to help people heal at a deep soul level, including the transformation of family dynamics. Her expertise in family constellations is something I know many of you will connect with, because we talk so much about mealtime dynamics and mealtime being more than just food. It's where the energy of our families really gets to come together for better or worse. And so today, we're going to explore how this healing work can transform not just our lives. We're going to talk about some meals and the way that we connect with each other. Tanya, welcome. I'm so excited to have you here and dive into this conversation. I'm so curious to hear more about family constellations once we get into it. Yeah, definitely. Thank you so much, Trisha. I'm excited to be here. So before we jump into family constellations, I'd love for you to share a bit of your journey. You've got such a powerful story from your Kundalini awakening to discovering this plethora of spiritual gifts that's really amazing. Can you start by telling us a little bit about how you first became involved in energy healing and what led you here? Yeah, so in my 20s, I was at UCLA. Studying fine art. And through the process of art making, I just naturally started asking these questions of, you know, who am I, really? Like, I started to notice that the mind that was this thing and it was like this closed loop. I'm like, what's beyond the mind, you know? Like, there's got to be more, right? So I started meditating and then I graduated from college. And at that point, I was noticing, I was feeling a little bit depressed, graduating from college and like being in the real world and feeling isolated and all this stuff. And the counselor said, well, you should try yoga. And I thought, okay, sure, yeah, I'll try yoga, whatever. So I went and little by little, I was practicing yoga every day and like, my body was just opening up and it's like, wow, this is amazing. And after doing it for a year on my own, I felt drawn to do a yoga teacher training in Canada for it was a four week training in Dalmarin. And during, I think maybe it was the third or fourth week of the training, we were, everybody got to pick a mantra. And so I chose a mantra and I got initiated into the mantra and I took my mantra and I went on my merry way and went into a little meditation hut and it was like, okay, I'm gonna do my mantra, right? Now I had a very strong desire for quote unquote enlightenment, you know, and so the drive was very strong. And so I just remember sitting there doing my mantra and had this really out of the ordinary experience I'd never experienced in meditation before. And that was, I was feeling my body was getting lighter and lighter and from the inside it felt like I could see light filling up my body and I had the sensation of my going higher and higher, like literally like lifting off the ground or something. I was like, yes, this is, I'm going to see an all right right enlightenment. And then I heard from deep within my ears, this huge growl, like a roar of a lion. And I was like, like I froze, I freaked out and I just shut it down. I was like, okay, don't know what happened there. That was weird. What was that? Like, holy shit, pardon my French. Didn't know what happened. Didn't even ask any of the teachers there or anything about it. Like, I don't know why I just kept it to myself. I mean, I never revealed it to anyone. And after that, I just started having all kinds of crazy wild experiences. And, you know, things like just having these astral projection experiences, feeling like I was getting electrocuted at night. I lost a ton of weight. My hair was falling out. Like, it was just a horrible ride. Actually, it was brilliant. And this was in your 20s, in my 20s. And I had no idea what was happening to me. It was just like, to me, the experiences of like, wow, my body's falling apart. Like, suddenly, I mean, I never had health issues in my entire life. And all of a sudden, nothing was working. My menstruation cycle disappeared. I was like, holy, moly. And so anyway, so that this ride lasted for two years. And it was excruciating. Eventually, I did leave the ashram because I was like, I can't, I don't know what's going on with me. And I can't stay. I looked for help. I went to the acupuncturist, I went to naturopaths, I went to, you know, your regular Western medical doctor. I even went to a psychiatrist even, was put on meds like nothing, nothing, nothing worked. And what it would, and I'll never forget, there was this one moment, there was a woman that recommended this Reiki master. She's like, oh, I know someone. She does Reiki. She's a clairvoyant. She's really good. You should go see her. And I was like, whatever, sure, like, I'm trying to- I'm trying anything. But I'll never forget driving in the car and this energy that was in my body was so strong. It was like, punching the top of my crown. Like, it just was like a hammer, but I mean, I couldn't, if I sat up straight, it was too painful. So, driving hunched over, like, just trying to get to the, oh my gosh. And anyway, I laid on the table, not knowing what the heck to do. I mean, I had no idea of anything about energy healing and the minute she put her hands on me and I went through the session, it was like, just an otherworldly experience. I just felt like I could finally take a deep breath, like the anxiety left. I just was like, oh my gosh, what is this, you know? And so, so I worked with her for a long time and then, you know, long story short, I met a gentleman who was a devotee of Christ and kind of as a last resort and I remember speaking to God in my mind. If there was a God, it's kind of what I felt, like, first of God, God, this is the last person I'm going to go try and get help from. And if it doesn't, you know, whatever, whatever happens after that, I'm yours, like, I surrender. If this is just going to be my permanent state of being, so be it, right? And so, so I went and I saw him and it was a wild experience that there was a couple of people praying and tongues over me and I was like, what is this? Like, again, I had no background in Christianity or anything like that, no connection to Christ whatsoever. I mean, my mom was a Methodist and I went to church, but I never resonated with anything in the church and so I never felt drawn to it. So anyway, was there had his home for a couple of days, had some profound dreams, laughed for the first time in two years, I wrote on them for again, I just started bursting out laughing and came home and the next day, all of the anxiety, all the depression, everything was gone completely after struggling daily for two solid years. It was, it was like I came back to life somehow and, and so that's just, that's been my journey and so I went and I studied Reiki, I went on to study other modalities and throughout my life in the last 25 years of just, you know, I've kind of been following the spiritual breadcrumbs as I call it and yeah, just a variety of different interesting experiences and just felt really called to bring this healing work to people and one of the modalities that I, that I use as family constellations, I found I encountered that about 10 years ago and had such a profound experience. I mean, it blew my mind what was revealed in the constellation, how these people could know secrets, you know, secrets of family and, and the only reason why those secrets could be validated was that my mom happened to be at the constellation as well observing. So it was just, I was like, wow, this is incredible and, and it was a profound experience and so then three years ago, I went into family constellations training and started working with couple and, and with, with four another family constellator in her program, her relationship programs, she would, I would do constellations for her clients and then since then I've been just on my own journey and yeah, so the rest is history. So here I am. Wow. So a couple of things that I want to note and honor is one to go through all that in your 20s had to be terrifying and so much like we're not even equipped to handle the real world really yet much less deal with all of that kind of thing. And I can't imagine one, you probably thought, I'm not going to tell anybody about this four because we're going to think I'm nuts. Right. Like nobody's going to believe that that's what I heard. And I've already got all this stuff going on. So just getting through that, like kudos to you because I just, I can't imagine going through it at that age or imagining my daughter going through that now who's 25 and all the things that you tried. I also love that you're talking about all these things, energy healing and all these alternative modalities, but you also brought religion into it a bit and like sought that as well. And I feel like so often in society, we feel like it's either or that it can't be an and so I love that you've tied those two together because I think that's really important. Yeah. Absolutely. Really, really cool. I think yeah, especially when it comes to Jesus, it either people love that or hate that. I feel like, you know, like they Jesus then some for some people it's triggering. They make assumptions, perhaps about the person. And yeah, and yet at the same time, sure, yeah, there's there's people that follow religion that actually don't know Christ either, you know, so it's. And then there's people that are deeply devoted to religion that don't understand or believe that energy healing is either real or that it's I'm going to say good for lack of a better word, right? So I just, I think that's really, really cool. But yeah, and I'll tell you, you know, it took me a long time actually to come to terms with it because it's like they're butting heads and I'm like, yeah, but it exactly like says not either or. And I was in this kind of internal like, what am I supposed to do? Like, I know that Reiki was like definitely fundamental part of my healing. And I also know that Christ was as well and there is this world of energy can't be denied, you know, so yeah, I mean, I guess to each his own, you know, I've had conversations like that with another woman who was grew up in a very fundamentally Christian home and she's like, I just started spontaneously recalling past lives, you know, which in the context of her family would have been, you know, as like, evil or, you know, whatever, it would have been labeled all these things. She said, I just couldn't deny it, you know, so, you know, to assume that we understand God's timeline is just insanity to me, but we won't get to that today. So family constellations, I find fascinating and such a unique approach to healing for our listeners who might be unfamiliar, can you explain a little bit about what it is and how it helps uncover hidden family dynamics? Yeah. So it was developed by Bert Halinger, you can Google it. There's there's a whole body of work, all kinds of practitioners and the family constellations have written many, many books. So there is a wealth of information that's easy to find, but to describe it works with the quote unquote "knowing field" and so the knowing field is it's this energy field, both, you know, it could be called other things such as the unified field of consciousness or would you call it another dimension, so to speak? Well, it is the dimension of energy and so the reality is we all know now, according to quantum physics and Albert Einstein, right, like energy doesn't disappear, doesn't disappear. So everything that has ever happened in the past or has the potential to happen in the future is all right here right now. And so when you come, so let's say a client comes and their issue is I have a tendency to attract the wrong relationships. I just repeatedly end up in abusive relationships. I don't understand why does this keep happening to me and so then without knowing going into the story, I don't have to hear like, oh, well, you know, John did this to me and then it was Steve and then it was this and, you know, going into the all of it and, oh, my father was a terrible man and all the things, all the opinions, I'll just say, okay, great. So your struggling relationship, your intention is what? Well, I want to really, I want to attract a learning partner, okay, so let's look and see what's there. So, and if it's a workshop format where it's a group of people to get can happen within a group of people or it can be one on one, if it's a group, I would then say, okay, so look at the people sitting here and choose someone to be you, choose another person to be your father and another person to be your mother and we start there. So once those people come into the circle representing those people that they know nothing about, they have no, no backstory, nothing. They step into the field and things just start happening. The client will place those people in a certain way and then I'll start asking, okay, you who's representing the client, what are you feeling right now? They might say, wow, I'm noticing I'm feeling really nervous, my heart is racing, I can't look at my mother, things like that. And then I'll go, what is the mother feeling and then they'll say something and what is the father feeling? And so these people that have no connection to the client or her history will just start speaking and sharing things and oftentimes the client, well, I would say 99% of the time the client's like, yep, that's spot on, it's exactly something my mother would say, or yep, this totally makes sense. And so then we start to just utilize what's called healing sentences. And so it's always focused on the truth. So me as a facilitator, I cannot have an agenda, I can't say, okay, I'm going to make this work, you know, everybody get along, you know, it's really about, okay, well, what's true here? Let's say with the daughter in that situation, I would say to her, okay, so turn to your mother if she's able to, just say to her, when I look at you, I feel afraid. I'm your daughter, you are my mother, when I look at you, I feel afraid. And then wait to see how the mother responds and so oftentimes we'll see a dynamic that's playing out where the client's carrying something that's not there. So let's say that somehow the client, maybe she was in between mother and father and she was involved in their relationship as a child, but that's definitely going to impact your future relationships, you know. So giving back their relationship to them, like your relationship is yours, it's none of my business, I'm just the child, like that would be an example. And so what happens is that these organic movements, call movements of the soul are to happen and slowly, eventually, the orders of love, quote unquote, get restored. So to where the client is the child, her parents are staying behind her, the father's on the right, mother's on the left supporting her, et cetera, and maybe there's, we might have to bring in their grandparents or, you know, and maybe there's things that happen to the family that I might just ask her, like, were there any untimely dust, are there any family secrets that you know of, like, and so the field will just start to move and review. And so it can be very cathartic and eventually the consolation will move until it's resolved until it's like, okay, this is a spart as it wants to go. And ideally the client by the end just feels at peace, you know, they'll feel the anxiety or the tension or whatever it is, they're able to give back these energies that don't belong to them. And so, and sometimes if they're, let's say they're getting something back to their mother that didn't belong, let's say the mother was an alcoholic or something and the child had to be the big one and the mother had to be the little one, well, that's, that's a dis, that's a disorder in the orders of love. So you would have her say the healing sentence of, I'm supposed to be the big little one, you're supposed to be the big one, give this back to you, like, I give back your, your rage or your anger or whatever it is. So it's a, it's another modality that can be used to really do that, that inner child healing of the things that we carry with us. Yep. So interesting, you know, in, in this podcast, we talk a lot about chaos and connection that happens around family meals, good and bad, right? And so I talked to a lot of women who I've had everything from, I don't like to cook because that's a role that was expected of me, right? Again, bringing these things in that they, or they're either not theirs, maybe, or that they learned or watched in childhood or from a previous abuse of relationship where this was an expectation. And so it's really interesting to hear, I've never thought about energy healing in, in that way, right? I always think of having a hard time finding the right words. You know, I've done some timeline therapy and some, you know, different, different modalities of energy healing. And I just find this one incredibly fascinating. Yeah, it's very dynamic and, and when it's done in a group, oftentimes the people that are the representatives, it's uncanny, the roles that they get assigned to play because somehow it's like it's relevant to them and their life, even though not about them, they'll receive some kind of medicine for themselves as well because for whatever reason that role is touching upon something within them that they need to heal. And so what can happen after a constellation is that things just start to spontaneously shift. So like in the context of the family meal, let's say one of those members went and got a family constellation because they're whatever, they're in conflict with one of the other members of the family and they do work around that. And they have that internal shift, the dynamics change. So the next time they have the meal with Uncle Bob or Sally or whoever, it's like, oh, wow. Things are different from this team, but are having that argument that we always tend to have. Yeah. Everything is let go of. So yeah, it not only impacts the individual, it's just, it's, it's, it's the reality of quantum physics when you, because we're all connected and we're all one, if you change and you heal something in yourself, it's going to ripple out starting you and then the people are closest to you and on and so on, right? Yeah. That's the beauty of it. Yeah. So true. So true. I mean, so much of my story is realizing that I really was, I was blaming my husband and my kids and my job for everything that I felt like made mealtime stressful. And it would be realizing I was a good chunk of the problem and the energy and the intention that I was bringing to it. And so shifting that changed everything for me, which in turn changed everything for my family dynamic and how we communicate, hence where we are today. And so I love learning about these different modalities and sharing them with my listeners because there's so many ways to get the healing that you need or to change your circumstances. And so this, I, this family constellations talking to you is the first time that I had heard about it. And when I was like constellations, I was thinking like, you know, like stars and astrology and whatnot. And so it's been so interesting to learn more about it from you. Many of our listeners and our busy moms, entrepreneurs, they're juggling a lot. And how, how would you say they can begin to bring more energetic awareness into their daily routines? And I would say even if it comes, especially to family mealtime, because you deal in a lot of modalities, what are some simple practices you would recommend they can start using? Oh, wow. So yeah, I, yes, mothers are juggling a lot. We have so many demands on us, you know, having to take, run the household, the kids, the job, everything. And yeah, it's really easy to get overwhelmed and stressed out and get into that snowball effect. I think it really, the most important thing is, I mean, I guess I don't necessarily, well, honestly, the easiest thing to do that I have found that helps me to, when the mind starts to get wound up pretty tight and we find ourselves constantly in that thinking and like on that treadmill and obsessing about things and so on and so forth, to stop for a moment and just like fit, if you can sit outside in nature, great, just sitting on a meditation cushion, close your eyes and just breathing in deeply and connecting to your body and just just observing the mind and not getting attached to the thoughts. And once you start to develop more and more of that awareness, you can catch yourself when in those moments where you want to be reactive, to go, wait a minute, I don't have to react. I can choose not to react right now and let it go. And it's amazing how quickly your energy body will reorient. So for example, I observed it in myself the other day, I was sitting with my husband, he was talking to another guy, we were in a like a group call, whatever. And there was this kind of this energy around like, you know, two guys and a lady, like, you know, there was a little bit of, I don't know how else to say and not that they were inappropriate, but it was kind of like locker talk or something like a little bit of that bromance, kind of that little bowing bribed bribed bribed bribed. I might felt like I was being talked down to or something like that and got off the call and I could feel within myself going like, I'm, you know, I'm going to have a talk of my husband and set him straight and that, that like shake my finger at him. And the minute I felt that arising within myself, I asked the question, I'm like, who's the one that's upset? Like who is the one that is upset in this moment? And then I caught it and I realized like, oh, it's just my, if the ego, it's just the ego wants to be right. The ego wants to prove a point, you know, and so in that moment I was like, oh, actually who, because I know who I really am, I don't have to be upset by this, like, whatever, it's their thing. And what I mean, I don't have to take anything personally. I mean, so I guess that's just the example. I mean, mindfulness really is, is, is so important. So, and I think it, again, it just takes practice because if you're not, if you have a habit of always being the overdoing and the overthinking and the stressing out, you know, rushing to make the meal and yelling at your kid because they're running late for the bus and all the thing, just to, okay, like it's not the end of the world. Things can take their own time. I don't have to force anything to happen here, you know, and, and at times it can be a little bit disruptive to the ego because the ego is used to being in control and want to dictate what happens or doesn't happen. And so sometimes when you do create for that spaciousness for yourself, the ego might try to creep back in like, it's not supposed to be this easy, you know, like, you should be doing more, you should be stressed out. Why are you not stressed out? Because something's wrong, like, you're missing something, you know, all those things. So just, just, just to observe your thoughts, yeah, beat the tenon. Yeah, I really, I do really think it's about learning to let go of some of that and really asking yourself, why am I so hell bent on controlling this right now? Right. What does that mean to me? I think like really mean, is it important? Yeah. And if it is, then by all means go for it. Like, if you're talking about, you know, getting your children to take their meds or whatever. I don't know if it, now, but if it's, you know, did they, did you get the right thing in the lunchbox? I'm pretty sure they'll live. Yes. They'll figure it out. They'll figure it out. Wasky. Oh. I love those tips. I love those tips. You've worked with so many individuals and families. And I know you have to have seen some incredible transformations. Can you give us a story, obviously not sharing anything, you know, confidential names or anything? If you're a story, you're an example of a family whose dynamics, who do you remember most that were healed through family constellations? Like, I just want the listeners to be like, to that John to something that they can really relate to. Right. Yeah. I'll pick one. There's a woman that worked with me for, it was successions. Every other week we met and went through all of her, all of the sticking points that she would, you know, the challenges that she was facing. And one of the major ones was that she didn't, she was, she had a partner of 10 years. They weren't technically married, but she felt really stuck, didn't know whether she was supposed to stay or go. The relationship was unsatisfying, yet they've been together for so long and part of her really wants to be a mother and just, just didn't know what to do, just, you know, constantly doubting constantly, just, yeah, just, I mean, you can imagine being in that scenario. It's like, yeah, stuck, I don't know if I'm supposed to stay or go, like, nothing's happening. I'm just kind of here and it's just, ugh. And so we did the constellations. She loved the work. We were very eye opening for her and I would say about three months later, I think it was about maybe four months later, I just thought about circling back to her just checking and like, how's everything going, you know, how are things? She says, oh my gosh, so much is so competitive. She said, I eventually told my partner, I asked lovingly for a separation and subsequently, he decided to go into counseling and I'm finally the relationship, I'm finally having the relationship I've always wanted to have with him and I'm pregnant and I'm gonna have a baby. So it was just like, it was just so interesting because it sounded to me that for something to change, she couldn't just stay in the, I don't know. And she had to make a bold move, which was, okay, I'm gonna ask for a separation, boom. And then that's everything changed after that. Another quick example was one of the more profound ones was a mother who came to me really distraught her son, her 20-year-old son was hooked on meth, who was refusing treatment, telling her, I'm fine, it's under control, I don't need your help, blah, blah, blah. So now we couldn't do a constellation for him because he's already an adult, we'd have to ask for permission, et cetera. Well, can't do it for him, but I can do one for you. So we did and we were able to see that there was this hidden loyalty between him and the grandpa who was an addict of sorts, I think he was an alcoholic, and the dynamic of this, her child being the youngest, trying to be the big guy and anyway, it was just really interesting. And it was very helpful to her to know what she had to let go of. Two weeks later, she emailed me and said my son decided to go into rehab on his own accord, like everything has changed. We as a family are going in, I think they did some kind of either AA group or narcotics anonymous group or something, but as a family, we have to work on their stuff because anytime, and I don't know, you might already know, but anytime there's someone that's suffering from addiction, it's definitely an issue of belonging. And they are the ones that are kind of waving the red flag saying there is a familial problem here. It's not just me, but I'm the one that's dealing with the symptoms of the family dysfunction. So it's never just the one person. So it was beautiful to see that they all came together and realized we as a family need to work on our dynamic. So that was mind-blowing, it was really amazing. And there's also more. Yeah, many stories you can read about them, other constellators talk about them all the time. Awesome. I just, I mean, the examples you've given are very profound and I absolutely have already said it multiple times, but I just don't have another word. I just love how your work can create such deep shifts. Either that's for one person or families because that one shift and that one person can create such a ripple in an entire family as you've pointed out. And I know a lot of listeners may be eager to learn more and experience it for themselves. So if you could share how people can get in touch with you, how they can work with you and do you have any exciting coming up you want to talk about? Sure. You can find me at newearthconsciousness.com, I'm on Facebook as Tanya Elena. If you go to my website and you sign up to my email list, I often host free family constellation demonstration workshops on zoom. So that's an opportunity that you can join for free and participate or just observe or even receive a constellation for yourself to see what it's like because it's definitely family constellations is one of those modalities that you have to experience in order to really understand what it is because explaining it, it's just, you know, it's hard to imagine because it is a it is a felt experience and some of you just you just blew my mind with the fact that you can do it on zoom like in my head, I had it just like worked out that you had to be in person where you could like, you know, be in the same room. And I think we forget that energy travels faster than light and then we can do these things via zoom didn't even occur to me. Yeah. And that was just, I mean, COVID made that happen, but it was previous to that. I think all family constellators did everything in person. And then when COVID came, it was like, Oh, wait, what's experiment? And so they did and found that it worked out just as well and the people needed it the most because they were all stuck at home to get close. Right. Totally. Yeah. And then, you know, when it's one on one, it's there are several ways of doing it, but I guide the client in order to sense into the field all the different characters. So you can, as the client, you can feel, Oh, what's happening with mother, what's happening with body, you'll, you'll feel it in your body. And so it's very empowering to know that, that, that, that you have, that we all have, we all have intuitive abilities and we all have the ability to sense. And that's the thing. Like most people think like, Oh, you must be a psychic or you are some kind of special powers. And it's like, no, really, any, anybody who I would say is inclined to sensing energy, to, you know, feeling with their whole body can do this kind of work. Yeah. So, yeah, I believe we all have those gifts. It's just a matter of uncovering enough. One wanting to, I mean, realizing that you might have them and wanting to lean into them, but I, I truly believe we all have them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so yeah, just sign up for my newsletter and you'll, you'll get the all the updates and offers and things like that. And I think on my landing page, there's also a free meditation you can sign up for and receive if you, if you'd like. Great. Thank you so much, Tanya, for sharing your wisdom and insights with us today. I think the idea of healing our family dynamics at a soul level and how the ripple effect that that can create even into small everyday moments, you know, like mealtime and then you even think even bigger ripples into things like dealing with a child with addiction, like so incredibly powerful, it gives me goosebumps for anyone listening. If you want to, you know, really look into Tanya's work, all our links are going to be in the show notes for you to check out. So be sure to check those out. And if you've enjoyed today's episode, don't forget to subscribe, leave us a review and share it with someone who could use a little more magic in their meal time. And that's a wrap on today's episode of Mealtime Magic in Mayhem. I hope you're feeling a little more ready to tackle the dinner chaos and find some magic in the everyday. If you've enjoyed this episode, I'd love it if you could take a quick minute to leave a review on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening. Your feedback helps the show reach more amazing women just like you. It totally makes my day to hear what's resonating with you. Until next time, keep finding those sparks of joy around the table. Thanks for listening, and I'll catch you in the next episode.
