In this episode, Olaf Carlson-Wee and Nick White explain the shift from monolithic to modular blockchain architectures. They explore the origins of modular thinking in blockchain, the advantages of modular design, and its potential to solve scalability issues. The conversation closes out by discussing the various layers of the modular stack, emerging applications, and the importance of abstracting complexity for improved user experience. Enjoy! - - Follow Olaf: https://x.com/zxocw Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (09:26) Permissionless III Ad (10:46) Lazy Ledger Origins (19:31) Modular vs Monolithic (32:39) Layers of Moduler Stack (39:13) Next-Gen Modules (46:37) Rise of Applications (52:40) Abstracting Complexity - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.