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Bully Game Club 2
Game Club Bully part 2.
(upbeat music) (bells ringing) (bells ringing) (bells ringing) (bells ringing) (bells ringing) (bells ringing) (bells ringing) (bells ringing) (bells ringing) (bells ringing) (bells ringing) - All right, welcome to the second edition of Rebel FM Game Club for "Bully Penis." We're here to talk about the third chapter. The first two chapters are covered in the first game, which if you haven't listened to that, you should go ahead and listen to that and catch up. But here we're gonna be talking about the third chapter. And towards the end of the show, we'll tell you where to where we're playing for next time, since I don't actually know off the top of my head. (laughs) But so we played up to chapter three, now we're in the winner. I liked this chapter a lot more than the first two myself. - Well, I think we should announce that we have a new member on Game Club this week, right? - Oh yeah, Tyler, sorry. It's been so long that I just assumed Tyler was here for the first one. - Don't mind us, Anthony is the worst host ever. - Tyler stepped in and yeah, he caught up since we had that week off and was able to catch up. And now he's gonna be here with us through the end. Hopefully. - Mr. Tyler. ♪ 'Til the end of time ♪ So the third chapter starts off with you having to help out the greasers. And you gotta help out Johnny with his cheating slut of a girlfriend. - Well, first it starts with you giving shit to Petey. - Well, yeah, I'm just saying as far as the first mission goes, yeah. - But yeah, it does start out with you giving shit to Petey. Poor Petey. - Well, as far as I'm concerned with, I'm fine with. - I'm starting to think that maybe Arthur's right. Like way back in the beginning, when we were first talking about, we were all talking about how, you know, Gary, it was pretty obvious that Gary was gonna turn on you. And Arthur was like, no way, man. Petey's gonna end up being the ultimate betrayer by the end of this game. - I don't know that that's what's gonna happen. It's just like I can kind of see. - That is what's gonna happen, that's what I'm saying. It's perfectly fine for him to get shit now because fuck that kid. - But I mean, I don't, I don't, I like that Jimmy is not necessarily like a total douchebag of a character. Like he's one of the few more sympathetic characters. - Yeah, and I've known plenty of people who were decent humans who at some point made fun of a nerdy kid. - Oh, not me. I was a golden child. I always treated everybody equally. - Yeah, I mean, how many of us have probably said some retard jokes or something, you know? We generally consider ourselves a few people. - Yeah, but I didn't go and push the retard down. - But there are times that I feel like I, there are definitely things I've done in my life that probably make me seem like I have no soul. So, as many of our listeners know. - My door is only a few feet away from the bathroom. I can test to this. - So. - Oh. - Oh. - But what were, oh, so. - You guys maybe share a little bit too much space. - I agree. - So yeah, so we're in the winter. You're being a douchebag to that little guy who's gonna fucking betray you at some point anyways. And I just wanted to take a second actually, 'cause I just remembered I got this letter. I can't remember the guy's name. But he actually made a really good comment to me. He was a teacher in New York. - Oh yeah, I have that letter. - In New York, oh, do you? All right, you should look it up. I'll let you read it then. - Do you wanna? - I won't, just look it up and we'll keep talking. - No, I've got it right here. - Yeah, read that 'cause I actually thought it was interesting. - Okay, so this is from Mike. - Don't say his name. - No. - Well, Mike, but we don't have to say where he's from. - No, I wasn't gonna say anything like that. 'Cause he emailed and commented in his comment. - I just didn't wanna get him in trouble when he works. - No, I mean. - Wonder what he teaches down there in Lawrence, Texas. - Let's see, he talks about the PC version being busted, which actually this time I didn't really experience with the exception of one thing that I can talk about later. I am currently in my first year as an eighth grade English teacher in a public school in Brooklyn, New York. I miss this game the fourth time around and forget since I can not compare my reaction before I was a teacher now. - I'm not saying where you worked. - Random teacher in Brooklyn. There are a lot of mics in Brooklyn. - Anyway, I get us some bleep every time we say Mike. For the whole show, we'll just become an expletive, then I fucking mike that girl. - Of course, you let them first. - We don't get mics, we don't get mics. - Fuck, we mute mics, that's like we've missed the fuck. - Well, I apologize if we mike you at your job. - That's just become our new expletive. Fat Mike. - All right. - Associate Pat, I think as some of the kids in the game seem to be, I do not think any of them come off as bad as the developers wanted them to. Compared to my students, Gary is a model citizen. This year, we had a student who took a crap in front of a dean's doorway. A girl who had to leave the school because she had another abortion and is being led into a counseling program. We had a male and female student who took pictures of their sexual escapades in the stairwell and texted them to half the school and a student in my class who was removed in cuffs. - Eighth grade. - This is yes, this is an eighth grade English teacher. - Wow. - I think if I had played this before being a teacher, I think I would have been much more affected by the actions of the students. As it is right now, I would love to be teaching at Bullworth. - So basically, what he's saying is that they should like teachers that are gonna go work in Brooklyn. They should be like, "Play bully and decide if this is what you really want." - Times 10. - Times 10, yeah. - With that being said, I think the game completely nails the whole mid-teen vibe. Love the character so far, the writing is fairly sharp and I can't wait to dive back in again for chapter three. Oh, and as an English teacher, I gotta kick out of the English teacher with the drinking problem. Teaching English is just so difficult, made me laugh. (laughing) - I'm actually studying for this teacher. - I liked that letter. - That's a really great letter. - I was actually thinking that-- - It sounds like somebody, it sounds like it was written by somebody who has a very excellent command of the English language. - Except for the spelling mistakes. (laughing) - Spelling mistakes can't be heard, though, unless I make it so. - Yes, but yeah, so it starts off-- - Make it so. - You're helping out the greaser, Johnny, who-- - Well, he demands that you come to see him. - Well, right, but you choose to in the end because at first you tell his little crony that comes like fuck off. - Yeah, which I thought was a really nice touch, by the way, 'cause that was one thing that I never understood about other Rockstar, the Grand Theft Auto games, is somebody would come and summon you, and you're like, okay, okay. - Yeah, that is the default. It's like there would be a dialogue option and the only option would be okay. - Right. (laughing) And so for Jamie to go, what do I look like? Your maid or whatever he says, get outta here. - When every time someone talks to him, his first reaction is almost, let me guess, you want me to do something for you. (laughing) - Right. - But so he tells the greaser to fuck off, basically without saying fuck off, 'cause this is Rockstar's T-rated game. - But then you go and you see the yellow star and you gotta do it anyways to address the story. - Before that happens, the jocks pick on a, pick on Petey and knock it down, and then all of a sudden you're friends again, and someone pointed out that there was like-- - That didn't happen to me till way later. - Really? - Yeah, the jocks picking on him. - I'm pretty sure it happens right then. - Does it? - Yeah. - My brain's jumbled. - Yes, yes it is. And then the winter chapter starts, and the first thing that happened to me is I got called to the, I don't know if it was first, but almost right away, I got called to the office. - To receive your wonderful gift from your fantastic parents. - Which is a fucked up looking package, like it looked like they went through the UPS cycle a couple of times. - Yeah, it was pretty funny. - I wore it though, I didn't bother to ever change out of it, just like I still haven't changed my haircut from when I had to get like a preppy haircut. - Well you got, so to be clear, we're talking about the most hideous Rudolph, the red-nosed, reindeer sweater in history. - Right. - I don't think it's that bad. - It has the red clown nose. - Yeah, yeah. - The jest that actually, how's that hooks out? - It has a dangling tester sweater. - It seems like the type of thing that I'd see some scenes turn San Francisco away. - Totally. (laughing) - That doesn't make it better. - So you're one of the coolest things that was readily apparent when the winter chapter started was you just walk outside and there's snow everywhere and the first second you run and stop, you slide a little bit and you're like, "Oh." - Yeah. - And you have to relearn the skateboard physics and all that. - Pressing why anywhere where there's snow makes snowball. - Yeah, which was really cool. - Which I didn't realize until I was almost done with the chapter. (laughing) - So you go, you meet up with Johnny. Johnny tells you that he's in love with this girl, but he's pretty sure he's cheating on her with the fucking preppy kid. - With gourd, the prep. - So you are tasked with going and taking pictures of her? - Yep, and everybody in the universe constantly refers to her as the slut, that slut, lola, slola. Hey, it looks like your girlfriend is a slut. Hey, go take pictures of that slut. You know? - It's true. - That's nice. That's real. - It's true, even when he does it, yeah, when you get the pictures of her he's like, turns out she is a slut. (laughing) I mean, to be fair, she's not a very likable character. - No. - I would necessarily be like, calling her a slut. I mean, even when, even when-- - Yes, you would. - No, 'cause look, all she ever does is make out people. She's like every second, she gets, she's like on the corner banging some dudes. She's just like-- - Well, yeah, but I mean, there's still this sort of-- - He doesn't know her favors. - That sort of teen comedy sexualization prior to American Pie, where she like, runs her fingers seductively, like down her chest and shit like that. So I mean, there's still the implication that-- - That's 'cause they had a teen rating. - Yeah. - If she were older, she would be-- - She could do in some banging. - The Serostitute, as it were. - So yeah, that mission pissed the hell out of me, 'cause I couldn't not be seen all the time. I had a hard time with it. I don't know being stealth and taking pictures. - Yeah, I did for a while too, actually. What, I mean, what? Really? I just didn't have that much problem. - Yeah, it seemed like every time, well, part of it for me was just like, the overall camera controls. - Okay, sorry, I'm probably making a lot of noise adjusting my mic, but-- - And you're playing on PC, with a mouse. - Yes. - So that might have something to do with it. - So, well, it seemed like I would turn, and then I always forgot that when I aim down my camera, I aim the way that Jimmy is facing, and not the way my camera is facing. - Yes. - And so I would do that, and then by the time I would turn around, they'd be turning around and look at me, so that I did that like three or four times. - Exactly, so I had a little bit of trouble and then I'd keep being, getting seen, and then eventually I would get the hand-held in one, but getting the picture of the gift exchange was kind of hard for me. - Right. - But, so then you do that first mission for him, finds out she has a slit. Then I don't remember what the second mission is after that. - Well, the second, or even first mission for most of us was the Lunch Lady mission. - Yeah, okay, you guys talk about that. - You didn't get, that's really, it's super weird to me that you didn't get that mission. - I don't know, I guess. - And I swear I got that in the last chapter. - If that's true, I should comment. - I feel like, I feel like the first time I went down into the lunchroom, like I started the chain of missions that led to that one, that led to the- - I mean, talk about the one where she drugs the professor, right? - Yes. - Yeah, we're date rape ensues. - Right. - Date rape mission. - I've never, I never did it at all. I don't know, and I thought I did all the missions, but I guess I stayed on the greaser chain too much. - It's been a couple of weeks, so I could just be fucking out of my gourd, but it really seemed to me like I had a, that was a triumphant, explicative of gas, Anthony. - Well done. - Is it expulsion? - Yes. - Is that a really important word? - I was looking for some kind of word to start with. - Some EXP word. - Normally when I fart, I'm the only one who celebrates, so I helped the Tyler gave me fistpump. (laughing) - Normally when he farts and there's a mic in the room, that's what he farts into. - Yeah, actually classy on the show. - But that was, it wasn't fistpump, it was trucker horn. (laughing) - I don't need a fistpump. (laughing) - Texas. - So anyway, somebody can tell me if I'm, you know, smoking crap or whatever. - I mean, Tyler and I played that mission near the beginning of chapter three, which is that you go, there's a star in the cafeteria and you go down and the lunch lady has a super huge crush on the chemistry teacher, whose name is Dave Smear right now, but is like the super skinny bald, old white dude. - Yeah. - And she is the lunch lady. - And she puts on all of her best makeup. - Yeah, I thought it was rad that you get her the giant thing of perfume and she drinks it. - Yeah. (laughing) - And Anthony's just like, "Well, let's go." - It is, well, that's the point. And this is another mission where you go and you sit outside of their date, sort of trying to listen to what's happening while simultaneously shooting at any kids that get close. - But he agrees to go in a date with her? - Yes. - Okay, that's the premise. - Right, they agree to meet, but it's pretty clear shortly into the dialogue options that he thinks they're just meeting, not actually on a date. - Whereas like every word from her is not even thinly veiled in UNDO, it's just like very hacky. - And she drugs him during the date. - Yes, and so one of the things you get are sedatives, which I think she tells you to find in a trash can. - Or next to a trash can. - Or you have to go to the store for something too, like into town. - Perfume, yeah. - Perfume. - Perfume. - But once the mission's done, you don't have sedatives anymore. - No. - No, you don't get to carry your fucking Rohit-naw with you throughout the day. (laughing) - This isn't that rockstar game. (laughing) - But this is the mission that when we were in the car coming up here to take the last rubble of film, we were talking about how I feel it's indicative of rockstar compartmentalizing a lot of how they compartmentalize gameplay. Like, you know, we're sitting here talking, you know, like there's boxing mini games, there's skateboarding, you know, there's all these things, but the way they control is very compartmentalized. So we were talking about our frustrations approaching this mission where we would climb up the tree and there's an actual button to pull yourself up on the branch. - Yes. - And then where you can shoot, but it's like, why does it need to be a button? - Yeah, and I forgot what the button was because the only other time you did that was way back in the beginning when you're knocking out the football team. - And we space these out, people, give us a break. - Even if you didn't space it out, I mean, Tyler's right, why can't it just be like, hit up on the tree and you move up the tree and then you can go. - So I did that mission three times, which is a, once figuring out how to pull myself up into the tree and not doing it right, and like not targeting the kids fast enough, the second time I hit a button and he turned around on the tree branch. And then by the time I turned around, they had apparently told her off enough to where I failed, and then the last time I did it, but it was kind of frustrating that it was hard to concentrate on listening to the dialogue because you're fighting with the controls for some reason. - Oh, we'll see on the, at least on the PC, whenever you have those like sniper aiming missions, it's the easiest thing in the world. - So yeah, with a stick, it's super slow. Like there's, on the 360 is it this way? Like it's super slow to aim. - It is slow, but you know, yeah, I'm playing on the 360, but I am kind of a crack shot, you know, master. I was still running away, so. - But it's still like, it takes forever to fucking like get over to the student in question. - Totally, yeah, like what, yeah, what I would have to do is just sort of like, I was watching like the alleyways where I knew the kids were coming from, you know, like, there was always like the set spawn points, and I would just watch them from far off and sort of lead them and do his mission. (laughing) - I didn't feel like that there, this is almost their equivalent of an escort mission, like the algae missions where you have to walk in back and forth in the library, you don't really feel like escort missions? - Right, yeah. - Whereas this is sort of the reverse of an escort mission, like the defense mission. - They do have like those random pickup missions that you can just use to get cash, where occasionally you have to like walk somebody to some place or another. - Do you guys do those? - No, 'cause they don't add any story. I mean like, I think they're there just to give you a little bit of extra money, but I have so much money, I don't even worry about it. - Like, I don't even spend money on anything in that game. Like I know that you can buy clothes, but I'm perfectly happy to run around in my elf concert. (laughing) - I bought a bunch of clothes just because I'm weird like that, and I like doing that kind of stuff with my characters. I don't know, it's like I like to put my character even more immersed in the environment, so when, so as soon as I got into the winter, I went to the shop and like tried to find winter clothes to buy that I think Billy would wear her Jimmy, I mean. - As opposed to our listener food who says, "I stripped down to my underwear as soon as possible." (laughing) In fact, I haven't worn pants the entire game. - And people-- - I didn't even know that I was in my own age years. (laughing) - And they notice. - They do notice. - Yeah, they do, they laughed at me the entire time, I was wearing the elf costume. (laughing) And sometimes it's a dress code violation, but I never got busted for it. - It told me that even when I put on the sweater. - Yeah. - There's been a couple of times where I've got dress code violations that got my wanted level up high enough that they started to chase me, but that was only when I was hanging out near them for a length of time. - Usually they would see me and their kind of vision would go red and then they would start laughing at me. (laughing) So it's like the elf costume is a defense because they're just laughing at you to bust you. - Some of the costumes actually give you in-game advantages, right, I know I saw a little crawl on the one of the load screen that says the black ninja suit makes you something to something. - That would surprise me. - Wow. - I don't know though. - I don't know. - How do you get a red one? - Yeah, I only have a red ninja suit. - Yeah. So if any listeners know. - Right. - Inform us. - Or we could look on the internet. - No. - No. - What is the internet? - What is the internet that you speak of? So the end of the- - We're on the radio. - The end of the lunch lady mission has her escorting a drunken sedated. She can professor into a hotel. - Yes. - And that is really disturbing to me. - That's disturbing to me. - Yeah, I think it's supposed to be. - But you just- - Let's go make some meth. (laughing) - That's an excellent impression of the lunch, man. (laughing) - All right, have fun. - So what about that quest where you had to go get all of Lola's things out of, after they figured out she was a slut and expelled her from the greasers? Was there other missions before that? - I don't know if that's before the- - Or you have to go save algae. - Well, let's just talk about, we can talk about it out of order. It doesn't really matter. So let's talk about the Lola mission. - Yeah, like where you had to go into the greasers, hang out and go busting through walls and shifting the Lola or stuff. - Forever, I didn't, it kept on saying like a find a way to break through the walls. So I kept on searching floor by floor, room by room. - Yep, me too. - Not knowing that it was just like a boss fight at the end that gives you- - To give you a sledgehammer. - A sledgehammer. - Which by the way, I was really disappointed you couldn't keep as a weapon. - You do get another rad weapon and another challenge that we can talk about after this. But yeah. - Now we get to keep. - Yes, which we do get to keep. - That's awesome. - Yeah, I mean, that was one of the parts where I'm like, okay, this sort of feels like it's pushing the bounds of the reality that this game has established. Like the dude with the giant hammer and not being murdered by it. - Right. - Well, yeah, I never actually got hit by the hammer though I just slingshotted him the whole time. He's too slow, yeah. - I got hit by the hammer once. - So. - 'Cause I am an inferior warrior apparently. - Apparently. (laughing) - You mess with the bull and get the hammer. - Yeah. - So yeah, that mission was kind of cool. I mean, I guess it was weird, 'cause Jimmy like always had like these weird attitudes. Like one second, he'd be like, "I don't really like this girl at all." But then she could talk him into going and doing something like that. - Yeah. - Like if I didn't like some girl, there's no way she's gonna talk, even if I like some girl, she's trying to talk me into going into some place where there's a bunch of guys that would be my ass. - Yeah, I would have to say- - You do not know that I believe you. - A typical schizophrenic rock star protagonist. - The guy that does strange things to men's minds. - I would probably kill someone for a girl if they'd ask me to, but that's all I'm saying. (laughing) - That's not better. - Well, no, actually that's a little bit more disturbing. - Yeah. - You were saying? - Yeah, what I was saying was far less interesting than the fact that Anthony will kill people for women. But. (laughing) - Or like a cookie. - I was born in the wrong century. I should've been on a pirate ship somewhere. (laughing) - Or something. - Scurvy chuff. - Yeah. (laughing) Kill man for looking at me wrong. Anyways. - I was gonna say that I think the greaser missions in general are definitely my least favorite missions so far. - They're kinda lame. - I guess that's true. I kind of liked them though. They were super quick and easy. I actually liked the bike one where you're pedaling with a guy chasing you. - That one is cool, yeah. - I did feel that after some PE classes and after finding more transistors and having the hobo teach me more stuff, that I kinda feel like a murder machine in Boeing. (laughing) - Right, was that wrong? At some point you hit like winter break, right? There's just no more classes. - Yeah, there is a point in that season. It's the Christmas break where there are no classes. So there's no weekends in Bullworth but there is a Christmas vacation. - Right. - Yeah, 'cause I was gonna say at some point I was like, "Did I just not go to class enough?" - You're done. - Yeah, that's a thought that you did. - Because you do that action where you go and you take over the greaser hideout and you get like a second place to sleep and everything. I was like, "I'm just never going back to school." - Yeah. - Like I really become that delinquent. - Did you not get the pool house or the nerd one earlier? - No, he didn't get the nerd one, which is a damn shame. - Oh, there's a bunch of places. - He didn't get the nerd one. - I got the truck one. - How did you guys get the nerd challenge? - The nerd challenge. - The nerd challenge. - Arcade machine. - Consumer? - Yeah, consumer was easy. - Well, then again, I'm playing on PC. But it was easy. - I'm using a 360 pad, so my experience is extremely somewhere to yours and I did not have a problem with consumer. - I swear the hit detection, when your sumo guy starts getting fatter. - Okay, so what you're saying is that the game is cheating. - It's cheating. - So I think it has cheat codes. - It really excellently portrays a arcade game. It's fucking cheating. - Yeah, it's doing. - No, it's fun though. It is a genuinely fun minigame. And I like it, but it made me upset so I gave up. - I mean, I don't know if it's optional, but it's not a mandatory thing. - Yeah, exactly. - Just like the arcade game in the dorms is optional. - Yeah, I guess I didn't do all the challenges just 'cause I was worried about having finished on time. - But no, if you finish the nerd challenge, which is playing this consumer game where you have to eat good food and stay away from bad food and knock it bounced around by other sumo, you get a bottle rocket launcher. - Wow. - Which is an extremely valuable weapon once you're attacking the nerd fortress at the observatory. - Aye, that is not in this chapter. - It's not? - No, it is, yeah. - No. - Oh, no, it isn't. - No, it's like, you're right, it's the beginning of the next chapter. - 'Cause I haven't gotten there yet. - Right. - Thanks Matt. It's been worse. - Hey, I hadn't gotten there yet either, but I thought maybe it could be since I obviously missed out on this. (laughing) But I wanna do that for everyone. - I haven't been talking about this before. - It's been, it's been, it's been like two weeks. And I, and I, this is a sign of how good this game is, that I was like, man, I'm not supposed to play any bully for like another week here, and I really wanna play it. So I went back and I, and I played like the first, I don't know, half hour hour of the next chapter. - Yeah, you play, you just need to take notes. - You guys were asking if anyone ever does any of the pickup missions, which are like the blue start missions. - Yeah, but that's where people bother you. - Yeah, like, I'm enjoying bully so much, where I'm having a hard time, like pulling myself away from the console, where it's just, you know, okay, yeah, okay, I had to do a story mission. I went to a few classes, but let me just do this one pickup mission. Let me do this one, gang sent you. - I occasionally do the pickup missions just randomly. It's all chance whether or not I'll accept or not. - I just feel like I have enough time, like it's always okay. So I have a little time before class starts to maybe do a story mission. - Right, but I started going with your approach, which was ditching a lot of class. - Oh, see, whereas I reversed my approach, saying I guess I'd better try to go to class. - I've been going, I've been going to class all the time, like every single class I go to, 'cause you get tangible benefits from doing it. - You do, I've just been lazy. - Jimmy actually is a learning computer, which is kinda nice. And so the, it's like the, it has a positive message, a 10 class, then you can learn how to get with girls and get health bonuses. - And some of the class games are actually fun. - Some of them are fucking bullshit. Geography is bullshit. - Really? - I think that must be a scholarship edition. - It is a scholarship edition. - Is it bullshit just 'cause it's so easy? - No, the reason it's bullshit is because, like, the detection for when you have a flag over a country. - Oh, that happens, yeah, that's fucked. - God damn it, I know where Ireland is, like you put the fucking flag down. - And it's actually, it's actually, again, that's another thing that's easy on the PC, 'cause I can click and drag really fast, and just go drag, drag, drag, drag. - So I bet the biology ones. - Yeah, but I was missing a lot. The biology ones are fucking easy. - Yeah, so you're like six, it's so tough to get biology once it starts to get to the higher levels. - Just like I'm sure the fucking tagging takes you no time at all, in bullying. - The tagging is really weird, because, like, you know how you have to follow the path? - Yes. - Yeah. - You have to follow the path with the Wazda keys. - Whoa. - So it's a little strange. - Fuck, right now, yeah. - See, I feel like the graffiti handles pretty well. It was easy on the stick. - Apparently, if you do both sticks at the same time, it goes faster, and the same thing in the biology mini game. - I never had any problems doing the tagging I never got caught or anything like that ever once. - Tyler looks, I was surprised, too. - Wow. - But this is someone in the comments said that if you use both sticks at the same time that-- - Huh, sure. It's not like the game of prompted you to do that, or-- - Yeah, of course not. - Of course not. - I'm actually really disappointed with the tagging in that it doesn't stick. Like, the same tagging areas are always there. It's like, why am I even bothering? - Yeah, okay, let's be fair, though. This was a PS2 game, and it's not like there was a hard drive or anything. - Right, but it makes me wonder what the point is, what the point of tagging is. Like, 'cause you can walk up to any place in tag, but you don't get anything for it, and it doesn't stay, so it seems like all it does is put a bunch of targets all over my environment. - Whoa, I mean, I don't think there's any, are there different endings in Bully? Does anybody know, or is it just one ending? - I have no idea, but I bet you tagging doesn't have anything to do with it, 'cause if it does, then they need to do something to make it feel like you're accomplishing something. Even if the tag doesn't stay there, if you tag an area, and then say the Arthur's cat is destroying something in the room apparently. - Let her do it, it's fine. (laughing) - This is gonna be bad, I don't know. - Well, the reason I was saying that is because I mean, there's lots of shit that you can do that I don't think affects anything, like shoving kids and lockers or trash cans. - Right, but I just think it's like the equivalent of beating a hooker and GTA, it's just there to give it more to deal. - Let's see, I'm later walking down the street in crutches, does that happen? When you're beating the shit out of someone in Bully, can I beat them up and put them in crutches? - No, no, that would be fucked up and kinda cool. - 'Cause everybody would be in crutches for these points. - I would be at the shit out of every person. That person's not in crutches. (laughing) - This is crutch town. - Get to the top of the ditch. - That brings me to another comment from someone. This is the same person that ran around in their underpants, actually. They were just full of awesome comments. Personally, I love starting fights with random people and if I see someone next to a trash can or walker, they're going in there, no questions. - What is that user's name? - Food. - Food. - Okay, people like it when you read their names. Food for thought. - Well, I read his name once already, when he talked about it. - Read it every time. - If it makes awesome comments, food gets a name dropped every time. (laughing) - Also, this is off topic said, have you noticed that the insult button is context sensitive? When I walked up to a guy who was shoving a girl and pressed the button, Jimmy said, "Leave her alone." Then when I drove him off and asked the girl out, she refused, so I insulted her and Jimmy said something along the lines of, "I never liked you anyway." Then I smacked her. (laughing) - I ain't got a violence against you. - If I recall correctly, food mentions that he was kicked out of private school elsewhere in the thread. (laughing) After two and a half years. - Wow. - For fights. - Did any of us go to private school here? We all public school kids. - I'm a public school kid through and through. - Okay, I'm just wondering. I find a surprising amount of people I know in life attended a private school at one point or another. - Are these people that you met in the Bay Area? - No, I'm just saying in life, just people I've met have attended private schools. - Do they walk around with someplace? (laughing) - They're old and crusted, you know. (laughing) - They sound like silver spoons in their pockets. - Some people who aren't incredibly wealthy they have five kids in private school. - Well, I think they, I mean yes. Like a lot of people who went to college, went to private schools even if they couldn't afford it. Like they went on scholarships or like scholarships. - Yeah, I know, I'm just saying like, I don't think, I mean, Jeff Green makes good money, I'm sure, but his daughter goes to private school. And I know like a lot of people want to put their kids in private school is all, I don't know. - Sure. - For sure, my parents if they could have would have liked to in their mind or something. - I would imagine that Jeff Green's, isn't Jeff Green's wife from France? - Yeah. - Wouldn't she be horrified looking at America's public schools? - Probably. (laughing) - Is she in the area? - Yeah. - She, I mean, that guy, that guy is right. Like bully is quaint compared to the way most public schools are in this country. - It's true when we live in Oakland and we live by high school. And there are times that I drive by there at the time in all the high schoolers. - Pop your fucking pants. - You get it, yeah, I feel like an old man. - Yeah, I would never let my daughter dress like that. (laughing) I don't know. - Why isn't your arm through the sleeve? - Yeah. - I don't understand. - Anyways, I think I had a, I think it was a Rebel F film user sent me a friend request on Xbox Live and I befriended him and he was a text and he asked me how I could have the balls to leave Texas. And like, I didn't have an answer for him, but then like the next morning, I pull up CNN.com and see Texas Board of Education to debate... - The inclusion of evolution. - To debate the inclusion of evolution. - Shh, I didn't care. I just was in the curriculum. - I never saw that headline, I never saw that headline at all and I could still guess exactly if you never beat the ball, I could guess exactly what the Board of Education of Texas was concerned with. It wouldn't be, oh, the Confederate flag is displayed in the score. Oh, people are getting beat up, it's evolution. Yay, your name. (laughing) I say nay, so. - Like that's my, there's... - I said good day. - So, after you do the bike riding mission, you get away and you do Lola's mission, then, or in there, after you actually, before that, actually, one of the missions I liked was when you, right after you took the pictures, that you helped him, you actually helped him all press. - Yeah, you helped set up the Board for 20. - And I did not use a bike to-- - My iPhone and my pizza. - Did you guys use a bike to fight those guys? 'Cause I definitely did not at all. I just got off the bike, I just got off the bike and used my slingshot. - Yeah, I did the same thing. - Fighting on the bike is awesome. - Fighting on the bike is awesome. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - There's no damage whatsoever. I'm thinking like, okay, it's gonna be like road rash, but with bicycles and I had such a stockpile of shit that I rode around on my bike, like throwing bombs behind me, throwing firecrackers and throwing the stink bombs behind me, but after a while, I realized that wasn't doing shit. - See, it works for the computer because it's like playing against a computer in a real-time strategy game. They could do 17 things at once perfectly, whereas you're like, okay, I need to tap the button and then hit this while I'm tapping the button in stair and-- - Yeah, exactly, fuck. - If I tried to throw bombs, I would just like run into a wall. - It's actually like trying to do that in real life. - Yeah. - Like, you would never be able to find that in real life. You would blow your hand off of your head. - I thought that wish was cool. I thought I was gonna be down with Johnny after that. - When does that ever work out for Jimmy in that game? And he never thinks he's down with anyone. Something happens. - Love makes people do crazy things. - That's also a rock star staple. Is that, you know, let's-- - A friend's someone and then have him turn on. - A friend betray, befriend betray, yeah. - It's teaching you a harsh selection. Don't trust people. - They prescribed it the '99 problem school thought. - Yeah. (laughing) - Interesting. - But yeah, sorry, to go back to where we were then. Right after you defeat the, you get Lola and you get, now you have your base. And then what comes after that? Is that pretty much the race? Oh, Lola talks you into doing that race. And I'm-- - Well, no, no. Okay, so you basically help Johnny lure Gord into Thunderdome with lots of bikes. And then you find out that apparently Lola has been like making out with Auggie. - Did you guys ever see that really terrible mo-- Algae, did you guys ever really-- - See. - Did you guys ever see that terrible movie that had like L.O. Cool J and stuff? And it was like-- - Rollerball. - There you go. (laughing) Why didn't you know that? (laughing) Because when I saw that all I could think about was how MTV did some like special thing where they let some cast of like road rules or something go on the set of rollerball and I was supposed to be really cool. And then I was like, what ever happened to that movie? Did everyone actually come out? - That movie was, I saw it in theaters. (laughing) - There is a part of that movie that is entirely a night vision. Like a good 15 minutes of that movie isn't green and black. - Well, that's awesome. - Were you on a date when you went and saw that? - No. - Did you go and see? - Do you even need to ask that question is like-- - I wanted an experience. - Another question is, was sex anywhere in proximity to the day I saw that movie? - No, I just wanted to know if it was like you went because some girl that had terrible taste decided that you should go and see. I wanted to give you a chance to explain it away that this was not your choice. - No, it was voluntary. - Wha, wha, wha, wha, wha, wha. - It did have Vernon Reed playing guitar like for the house band. - To be fair, I've seen both Pokemon movies and movie theaters. - Oh, fuck you. You never get to talk to me about a movie again. - I remember the one I went and saw the second one I went with my friend Ian. You could just hear parents silently pull their children closer to them 'cause me and Ian sat down together. - But people, parents-- (laughing) - But that's just you walking down the street. - So, but I did get a Mewtwo card for going to theater on day one. What? (laughing) - Doesn't make it better. - Oh, it really doesn't. - Okay, so you find out that-- - By the way, I was disappointed that riding your bike inside that area, like with all the ramps and everything, really isn't any fun. - No. - It's kinda like they wasted it all that-- - It's patting your head and rubbing your stomach at the same time. - Yeah, I was like, the whole time I was like, I should try my skateboard. So I try my skateboard, that sucked too. - Let me try standing in place. - Right. (laughing) - With a bottle rocket launcher. - Right. (laughing) Or eggs, or a slingshot, or anything that is not my bike or anything that moves. - Right. - So then there's the mission where you have to rescue algae and the prep kid from Johnny, because apparently Lola has also been hanging out with them as well. - Anyone she can get gifts from. - Right, well, you get the impression that she's just using algae, 'cause like he says something-- - We were only studying. - Right, and he says he implies that he was supposed to get a kiss or something like that, by helping her out. (sighing) - So that's the on-rails shooter portion of bully. - Yeah. - Which is actually kinda fun after playing the frustrating on-rails shooter part of Coke, Thulu. (laughing) - It's especially nice to have one that doesn't suck. - Well, it was, and again, you know, I was on the mouse, so I'm like fucking deadly slingshot guy. - Yeah, it was a little hard to aim a little bit with the PS2 controller, but it was amazed that the hitbox is huge. Like as long as the cursor's like remotely on them, it's like-- - Yeah, it's sort of red, yeah. And I actually prefer that vastly over the Grand Theft Auto style of doing things, which is hopefully you can lock onto the right guy or something, you know? - Yeah, the aiming works a lot better in bully than it did in any Grand Theft Auto game prior to four. - Yeah, yep. - Agreed. - Did you guys do any of the missions where you helped out that crazy homeless Santa? - Yes. - Yeah, yeah, I did that. - You didn't help homeless Santa, either? Jesus Christ. - I didn't see homeless Santa. - Yeah, you help homeless Santa go and gather stuff. - That has one of the greatest missions in the game so far. - Yeah, 'cause you're like, especially that mission, you're running around picking up, you're grabbing sort of-- - Shiny garbage. - All the same Christmas decorations out of people's garbage. All these little elves or little people start chasing you. - Okay, that was after. Okay, so I don't remember what the first mission is for him. - The first mission for him is that he wants you to go and destroy the real Santa that's in the town square, yeah. - That was like the second one. - The first one's the gather mission, where you gather-- - Oh, is it a trap? - Okay, and then-- - And then you go and-- - And then you go and destroy Santa's village, yeah. - That was the fun mission for me, was destroying the Santa on the corners, little setup and all the little elves. - Right, you go and there's baseball bats all around there and you just pick them up and start destroying his cardboard set, destroying the candles, and the Santa's just, they're like, "What are you doing?" - Yeah, I thought it was a dog with the elves, chasing me around. - Yeah, mm-hmm. I thought it was amazing how it was in the town square, it was just this little instance where they had the picket fence and the big, dumb gingerbread house and cardboard cut out and, you know, it was just-- - Well, this isn't the more rundown part of town, so this is a new coven tree, is that the name of it? - I'm not sure of the names of this. - And this is the part of the game that opened up after you finished chapter two, and this is where the greasers hang out. Hannah C from the comments says, "The single best moment for me in the game so far was the mission where Jimmy is tearing up the Santa Panorama in front of the Christmas tree." Yep, one of the elves says, "I never wanted to do this, I wanted to be a dentist." (laughing) It's such as like these that for me raised the game from Ordinary Sandbox to something special. - Yep. - And is it just mirrors that flying squirrel game fricking hard to get the tops going? I don't know. - I like this Hannah, if she appreciates doing bad things. - Well, and it's also-- - And it's a pleasure from that. - You made it sound way worse than I think it was supposed to. - Sorry, Hannah. - I don't know that it's a girl. - Whatever. - And it's also like the, it's like what we talked about during the last, and then that this is a much smaller world than a lot of the GTA games. - Yes. - So it could be much more focused and have these specialized missions that are actually fun to play instead of having, you know, it does have, like Tyler said, compartmentalized gameplay, but it doesn't feel like the compartmentalized gameplay elements are actually usually pretty good, you know, like the boxing was fun, smashing Santa's village is fun. And then like the mission that comes after that, so basically the whole reason why you're doing this is because this drunk Santa wants to get the real Santa's money, obviously, for like, how the kids come, it's his business. So he says he uses all the destroyed decorations and everything to set up this god-awful, like Santa's village thing in this alleyway. - Which is a toilet. - Yeah, his throne is a toilet. - Awesome. - And, you know, his Santa suit is, of course, you know, all disgusting and ripped and everything. - I think I got a full time about watching kids sit on that Santa's way. - Yeah, but there's this whole like miracle on whatever 34th street line to it where it's like, he's pretending the whole time I do the real Santa. - He keeps saying I, he's the real Santa, yeah. - Like, that's what's funny about it. - I could still make the track, the reindeer games, you know? (laughing) And so like what happens is that, you know, Jimmy is there and you have to take pictures of these kids as they come and sit on Santa's lap. And you have to take pictures right while they're smiling. - Yeah, and there is, and it was, at least for me, it was the black kid. I could never get a picture when he was smiling. His smile was like, "They're in gone." - Right. - And it's like, it took me, like, tons of tries to try to get his picture, right? Everybody else was pretty easy. - Yeah. - I mean, the last girl gave me the most problems on that. - For some reason, like, the first girl like sat on Santa's lap and then she raised like a foot off of his lap. - Oh, like a glitch? (laughing) And I suddenly became less comfortable playing bully. (laughing) I mean, that could have been a glitch because of what the stupid thing that I did yesterday while I was playing, which is, for some reason, almost the entire time I was playing through chapter three, I was getting really horrible performance issues and frame rate issues like to the point where the game would literally freeze for two seconds and then continue where I was like panicking that it was gonna crash. And then I finished the chapter and I walked out and I quit the game and then I looked down and there's still a bully tab open. So essentially I had opened the game twice because I'm an idiot and somehow I outsmarted steam. (laughing) So to the guy that says that he's having issues with bullying on PC, I'm not having really that many more stability issues with it, except for those that I'm causing myself. - If anyone else is playing in on the 360, I installed it onto my hard drive and I've noticed a considerable amount of... - It's a much more considerably. - It gets a considerably... - Well, the low times are much faster. - Which is considerably. - Right. - That's very considerably of rockstar to get the game suck less. - Well, that's good enough. - So let's go back to missions that I did. (laughing) - Fuck, I mean, that's almost none of them at this point, right? - Nah, it's just, I guess I kept on, I was just playing like a machine running back to the bridge 'cause the bridge is where you kept on picking up all these recent missions. - Yeah. - Okay, so who else did the mission for the English teacher? - Oh yeah, I did. - You fucking bastard, Anthony speaking his history. - I'm telling you, eventually when I got that second place to live out in the area, I just never went back. - Yeah, but the stars are all still there. The stars still show up every day, like in all these different locations. - And you just never went... - I just did the one that was closest. (laughing) - Which is happening to me to progress one. - Right. - Stay in school. - So this is the mission where, what's the English teacher's name? - Oh, I can't remember. 'Cause I remember the, isn't the math teacher like hats worth or something like that? - Hatrick. - Hatrick. - It don't matter. English teacher. - English teacher. - Drunk, but Mr. Hatrick is trying to get fired. - Yeah, the Hemingway English professor. - Right. (laughing) - I think the premise is that he wants you to get back at Hatrick. - Yeah. - So the premise is that you, you sketch on the back of his car with your skateboard to his house and your only mission is to destroy as much property on his house as you possibly can. - Yep. - Before the police catch you. - Yep. (laughing) - And for some reason I forgot that I had the bottle rocket launcher and I feel like that would have made that mission go so much faster. - Haven't any of you guys ever done pranks like this in real life? - No. - Destroyed people's property? - I have egged a house once and I regretted it for a long time. - I have egged houses and I've done the, I have toilet-papered houses. toilet-papered I've done but that wasn't good fun. Egging was purely because I was being a day. - And then in high school, my friends and I, we used to have this thing where we would spork each other's lawns. - Is that like doffing? (laughing) - No. No it's not. (laughing) - It's a ball poop. - No, you take sporks and you just jam them in people's lawns and as many as you can find like you just get boxes and boxes of sporks and so when they come out there, it's like, you know, a graveyard of sporks. - Yeah, that's a lot of work. - When we used to fuck with people, the way we'd do it was, we would, I had friends work at the movie theater so we could always get movie and just movie like size toilet paper rolls, the ones that are like foot thick so we could make like epic journeys with them. And then, so we'd do that and then we would take all the popcorn left over at the end of the night and spread it on their lawn in the grass because it would be too fine to rake and so they would try and mow it and it would just turn like snow on their lawn. - It's like, you might get sweat and it's like sludge. - Oh, there's a fine corn paste on the floor. - And the funny thing was, as I remember, it was always our thing that at some point, we never coordinated but at some point randomly, someone was gonna be a dick and either knock on the front door or pound on their garage while we were all in the middle of it and you never knew who was gonna do it so you'd all just be busy toilet paper and house all since someone hit the garage and we'd all just fucking run. - It's like the heist movie where everyone knows one person is gonna fuck you but no one knows who. - That's exactly what I was except for the one time when we did it and my friend Dwayne had lost his keys in their front yard so we didn't have a way to start our car. (laughing) - So we had to sit in the neighborhood for like an hour and then go back and sit there and comb through the grass. - It was like fucking Metal Gear after the guards have been alerted, you're just waiting for the to go back to their posts. - That's pretty much exactly what I was like. Anyway, so I diverted this again. - No, I mean, so basically the point is to fucking destroy as much as you can on Patrick's property and that mission felt really good. Although at the end, I was definitely hiding in the dark just trying to destroy as many planters as I could. - I did, like the cops could never catch me. I just ran constantly and like if you're running and you do that attack, you can do that shoulder charge. So I was just doing the shoulder charge through like all of his potted plants and like for some, I think I somehow like, are you okay? - I can't drink. - Who wins apparently without choking on them. - It's okay, everyone needs to remind themselves that they can't breathe fluid every now. (laughing) So you were shoulder tackling. - I was shoulder tackling all the planters and then at some point, like I went around back and I had time to slingshot every single window in the green house that was out back before any of the cops got around to the house and got anywhere near me. So it made that mission really easy. - Unlike the prefects who are strapping on lats, the cops get tired and winded and stopped. - Yeah. (laughing) - Aw, adults, even the prefects kind of stop eventually. - The prefects are like the only ones I can out run. Like it's just like, I'm more maneuverable than they are. - Oh, I can outrun the prefects. - Yeah, I think you suck. - That could be. - Yeah. - I think you're lame. So what's the next quest after you bet? - Who did the panty raid? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Definitely. (laughing) - Anthony, you must hang your head in shame. (laughing) - You fucking fail at this cause here's that. - Here's another thing is that like when you do all these extra missions, they become little trophies in your room. - I know, I feel like, I feel like, I mean, I'm playing the PS2 version, I know, but I didn't even, like, I don't remember even seeing, like, I felt like I was doing everything. - Right. (laughing) - When in reality, you did almost nothing. - Are you sure the panty raid was in the winter time too? Cause I swear I did that in the last time. - I am positive, because you run into your gym teacher outside the porn store with the stacked porn magazines. - Right, and I was pretty sure I did that in the summer. - But that's in the neighborhood that opens up when the Graser-- - Yeah, it's a new company. - Oh, okay, okay. - The shadier part of town is of course worth it. - Wow, that's funny. I'm getting all my seasons mixed up here. - That's okay, at least you did it. (laughing) - So yeah, you go on the panty raid for the coach and then, like, you have little trophy on your wall of a girl's panty. - I'm just gonna start reading the FAQ instead of playing the game. (laughing) - Oh yeah, I totally remember that. (laughing) - I thought it looked incredible. - Sorry, I interrupted you, Tyler. - No, no. I was curious, have any of you guys knocked anyone off or scooter and driven it around? - No. - I thought they were both good. - I knew you could take the mics, I didn't know you could-- - The balls ass. - Yeah, it goes so fast. But the cops will chase you down if you don't have a helmet, so I'm wondering, do you guys know where the hell do you get a helmet? - Well, Robert Ashley was telling me that the best way to get around in the game is that you go back to the carnival and there's like a challenge way out there to do challenges for the go-kart racing. And he says, once that, once you do all the challenges for go-kart racing, you have a go-kart at your disposal at all times. - Dude, that's awesome. - And he says it's the best way to get around in the whole time. - That's so cool. I totally haven't been going over there just 'cause it was a pain in the ass and I thought it was just another bike race. Yep, so. - I finally went over and found the midget and started the Gnomes mission, but it's not. Like, basically, the Gnomes mission is a mission that's only in the scholarship edition where originally you could destroy all the garden gnomes and bully and it was just like looking for rubber bands or the-- - Parrots or patches or whatever. - Gen-G game cards or whatever, but now I give you a story or reason to do it, which is that the midget feels like, or the dwarf. - A little person. - The dwarf, the little person. - The little person feels like the garden gnomes are insulting. - The grading, yeah. - Are you trying to be, well, click correct right now? - I was looking for the least offensive one and everything I said just sounded worse. (laughing) - Half human. (laughing) - It was more like three quarters scale. - No, not three quarters. - One thirds. - Oh my god. - I'm sorry. (laughing) - It could have been worse. I didn't jump straight to flipper, baby. (laughing) - I just like the term half human. (laughing) - So anyway, okay, so panty raid. - Actually, when you do the, if you do enough geography classes, then it starts revealing things on the map. - Exactly, it tells you where everything is if you do enough geography classes, which apparently helps with the rubber bands. - Definitely, well, rubber bands and the gnomes and the GNG cards. If you get all the rubber bands, apparently, you get a giant rubber band ball. - What does that do? You can throw it. - I guess. (laughing) Do that. Don't even think about it. My cat is going after my pizza and she's gonna get the shit smacked out of her. So, did anybody else figure out the trick to dodge ball? - Say you pet her. - Yeah. - Which is basically to jump and throw and you become a destroyer. - You can jump and throw. - I just got really good at catching the ball. - Yeah, you can jump and throw and you can always catch. Like if you just, if you just match the catch button, you catch it every time. - And now you can jump and throw. - Yeah, you jump and then you throw and like you pretty much always win. - Yeah, it is sort of the win combination. So, let's see. So after the escort mission, what else? What else did you play? - I did the one where Lola's like, who's the fastest out of you? Jimmy looks pretty fast in a sexual way and then it was just the race, which I managed to do first try. Thank God. - I just managed to finish it, but there was definitely a time where all of a sudden like the collision on my bike went screwy and I ran into a wall and there's no way to make your bike go. Is there a way to make your bike go in reverse? - He holds three. He'll back up, really. - I don't have a square button. - Well, you have next one. - On the PC, if you mouse look and turn, he'll turn, he'll like put his foot down and just turn his bike and click on it. - Yeah, like pivots on the back wheels. - Yeah, that did not work for me for some reason. - That also works on the controller as well. - I just, it didn't, I couldn't get it to turn around. I was just stuck in the corner and then all of the greasers got off their bikes and started kicking the shit out. (all laughing) - One weird thing with the bikes on PC is that like, I'm used to clicking my sprint button to go, but then like when you're using the bikes, you're actually told to press W, like your forward button. So you're clicking W, W, W so that you can pedal faster and then just steering with the mouse. It's like, I'm like, why did you suddenly change the sprint button on me as soon as I get on a bike? - Yeah, it's not like on console, it's the same. - Yeah, it's really strange. - Yeah, the racing mission was okay. I mean, kind of boring. - Yeah. - First try and it was like, there was, and I only felt like I was gonna lose like once when a guy took a short pet and I didn't. - Yeah, but it seems like they slowed down if they get too far ahead of you. - They do, there's definitely a rubber banding AI 'cause like, I was also throwing stuff behind me the whole time 'cause I always have like an entire arsenal of weaponry. - And so I was dropping all of the stink bombs and the fire crackers behind me and I totally got two or three of them. And then I looked at their red dots on the map and they're going like fucking warp speed to catch up to me. - Yeah, I think. - Okay, so the other story mission that you have to do before you get to the end of the game or to the end of the section is the tagging mission which we touched on briefly, which I thought was balls in my face. - It was worthless, I just walked in. There was like five spots really super close and didn't even get caught or even at the threat of being caught. - Right, and it says like if you go up and do the ones on roofs then it's worth more. - I spent 10 fucking minutes trying to figure out how to get-- - I could not get on the roof. Yeah, I was like, how do I do this? Well, fuck it, I'm just gonna go spray some balls. - And that's such a sketchy part of that town like right next to the train tracks. I'm just wondering where there's the Jimmy avoids getting raped mini-game. (laughing) - In your dreams. (laughing) - But I said avoid. (laughing) And then after the racing mission, right? If that's it, right now it's the showdown mission, am I right? - So there's Lola's race. I'm just refreshing my memory 'cause apparently a day is long enough for me to forget the way that it all works out. Yeah, there's the rumble, right? - Yeah. - Where the whole entire section of town gets basically into a fight. - Yeah, where it's like all the different clinics are fighting for Lola. And she compares herself to Hell in a Troy. - Right. (laughing) - This was like an awesome like outsiders moment. You know, sort of like, you know, the greasers fighting the-- - The preps. - And you're there just avoiding the cops basically. - Yeah. - Yeah, which show up like right away. And then, so then you're, I don't, why are you supposed to find Peanut? - That mission had an awesome mid-level checkpoint, at least. - Oh, it did. I actually made it through-- - Yeah, I never got stuck on the mission. - Where was the checkpoint? - Well, I died the first time fighting the boss at the end, and the checkpoint's right when you get in the alleyway, and the cops chasing you in the car. - Oh, that part, I felt like I was avoiding Jaws at that part for some reason. - It's true, well, the cop car does kind of like, go really fast straight, and then if you turn it all, it slows down again, then it's like, "Dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. - And it's like, it looks so huge at the bottom of the screen. - It's just like this shark with the fucking patrol siren on it. - I really enjoyed that whole sequence though, like the rumble, and the escape on your bike, and then get to the junkyard. - It's a really great atmosphere in the mission, which isn't necessarily something that there's a lot of in some of the missions. - Well, definitely not in the greaser missions. I mean, like, there's, I can definitely say that in the previous two chapters, I was enjoying my way, fighting my way to the top of each of the clicks, and the greaser missions, I was kind of just, they felt more like filler than the other missions have, and maybe it's just because I didn't find the whole Lola storyline particularly compelling or interesting. - I mean, I thought that, I found it strange that they decided to do a bunch of love subplots in winter, in the spring, but... - Yeah, but it's early in the game, and they needed to introduce, I guess, that aspect. - It was an excuse for me to run around in an elf costume for four hours. - So, so after the rumble, and after the chase, you get to the part where you're supposed to fight Johnny, which is you and another Thunderdome arena surrounded by kids firing at you with Johnny on a bike riding around you, trying to kill you. - Which I did try and fight him on the bike, it fits. - Okay, so, I did fight him on the bike. First, I slingshotted all the people surrounding us, and then I managed to knock Johnny off his bike and then beat his ass, and that was that. - You never got... - Oh, you didn't use the magnet? - No, and apparently, I told you to do that, so what did you... - Well, that is the way to do it, is that you're supposed to shoot all the guys, the guy runs to the magnet, and makes it an even fight, by just sucking his bike up. - Well, like I said, I just feel like I've worn so many combat moves in that game that, like, I've knocked him off his bike and his left and right. - I guess I just assumed that I couldn't knock him off his bike, or that I had to follow the boss pattern, so I get... - What's the kid in the pink shirt thing? I get P.D. to the crane so that he can activate the electromagnet, and then all I did is stand under it to lure Grease Ball over there, and that happening, he gets his bike gets sucked up there. - Why was P.D. there out of him? - 'Cause he's backstabbing you. - He's supposed to be there to help you. Everyone is there. - Why was he there, though? - 'Cause he's P.D. and they need somebody to activate the electromagnet. - True. So, I mean, they indicate that, like, you're a pair that's taking over the school. I mean, they don't do it very well, but they do indicate it. - I don't know about that. - So, you knock away all the dudes, and they move, and... - Yeah, that allows P.D. to run to the magnet, yeah. - And then you beat the shit out of the guy pretty easy after that. - Yeah, definitely. You just sweep the leg. - Yeah, I tell you about that. - Sweep the leg, Johnny. - Motherfucker! - To me, it's interesting. - I am, like, a Cobra Kai student in that fucking game. I'm, like, tackle, sweep. - I like how the fighting in... and bully is better than the fighting in GTA 4. Like, how do they step backwards, you know? - Well, to be fair, no one in bully has a gun. - Yeah, I guess they just don't really expect it to do much fighting in the GTA. - Right. - It's very rare. They'll pretty much tell you when you gotta beat the shit out of someone to not just shoot them to death. - Yeah. - That's true. But the mechanics were pretty bad for the hand-to-hand in GTA 4. - So, there are two more letters that I wanted in with. One was about the game, and one was pretty soon we're gonna need to start talking about the next... - Well, for a second, why don't you look up where we're gonna... where we're gonna play to for next time? - Uh... - Should we just play the next chapter, or is that the end of the game? ♪♪♪♪ - I hate you. God damn it. ♪♪♪♪ - You're making it so hard. ♪♪♪♪ - We could just say to the end of chapter 4, couldn't we? - What if that makes the fourth one really long? - Well, but we might... let's just say we'll play to the end of chapter 4. - Alright, so then you go off to suck it up for the final one if it's really bad and long? - Well, I think that chapter 5 is like the last official chapter of the game, and then chapter 6 is just like the endless summer. - Oh, okay. - And we might actually have to take another break between volumes between 3 and 4 as well, due to scheduling issues. - Dude, Arthur going to England... England! ♪♪♪♪ - Skype! - Wow, you slimy bastard. - I can tell you why afterward. - I think I know why. I can't go, which makes me jealous and upset. - It's gonna be hot shit. - Even though I got invited. - God, you should send somebody. We'll talk about it later, because no one cares. - I'm sorry. - No, people. I'm the one that brought it up. - Yeah, Dick, why are you being in this up in the middle of our game club? - Matt, do you really need to worry about people blaming you for anything? I'm here. [laughter] - So the first letter I wanted to read is from Mitch Dyer, who comments on our stuff a lot, and he's played some games with some of us. - He's also a freelance writer. - He's also a freelance writer that I think is going to try to do the one paragraph review a day thing in May with Garnet. [humming] - Now you're singing from a different dialogue game, which is one of my favorites. - It is. - So Mitch says, "Someone on the show mentioned the bully feels pretty limited in regards to the city's size. I like that you earn more places to check out as you progressed." Which I didn't really even realize until someone pointed out that New Coventry wasn't there. - Yeah, exactly. I sort of didn't realize it either. - Particularly in the last chapter, which is what we just played. The start of bully is pretty slow, but it picks up considerably once you open the school's gates. Being able to hit the shops and carnival as well as access new missions kind of put a new light on the game for me. I don't like GTA games at all. While they're morally vacant, which I'm kind of uncomfortable with, I find that the busted ass combat/shooting and slippery driving ruins any modicum of fun they could be had. I'm not arguing with you, Mitch. It's wide open cities are always impressive, but I think that when you have a smaller setting like Bo Earth Academy, you start to notice the detail and the design. You need to play the missions to really notice it, but it makes a better game in my opinion. So I picked this because I actually agree with almost everything else to say. I feel like the smaller scale bully lets them do more interesting stuff, instead of having to spread it out over a larger sort of city. - I feel like I may have to kick Mitch out of a femoral fantasia for saying that he doesn't like that it's morally what was the term he used. - Vacant? - Morally vacant. That's what a femoral fantasia is all about, moral vacancy. Get with it, Mitch. - Damn, damn. - It's like a really crappy band name. - Morally vacant. - Morally vacant. - Morally vacancy. - Does anyone feel that maybe bully was sort of the experiment for GTA 4 to see how people react to more condensed? - I do feel that a lot of bully. - I do, sir. - I do. It is Game Club. It's like we're talking about books with tits. - Yeah. - I do feel like it was sort of an experiment for them. Like it was there. Okay, so we don't want to take a chance with Grand Theft Auto because people actually will buy that game. So let's take a chance on bully. Like, do bullies sell well? - Yeah. Yeah, that's so pretty well. - It's the greatest hits. - As far as I know. - Okay, game spots sell well to be a greatest hits. - It does have to sell a million to be a greatest hits. - As far as I know, even scholarship bait has just sold pretty well. Although I don't remember the numbers on it. - I have to say, like, his comment on moral vacancy really does help bully in terms of what it deals with, juvenile hijinks. It really helps you, even though it's even more cartoony and over at the top than GTA's, it seems like the characters are more believable within their range of socialization with each other. - Yeah. - You know, I don't know. The suspension of disbelief, I believe, is held up a lot better in bully than in the GTA games. Even GTA games are supposed to be a little more realistic. - So I feel like the characters in bully are also more consistent to their... - Yeah, exactly. - Well, the ones that have archetypes are consistent to their archetypes, and the ones that don't have specific archetypes that you can relate to are at least consistent to rockstar's fictionalization of the individual characters. - Mm-hmm. - Too many multi-syllabic words. - I'm sorry. - Damn it. - I saw we... - Exactly. - Me not used big word. - So he closes out with maybe bully is better because it's not about being the baddest motherfucker in the world. It's about getting rid of him. - All right. - I don't know. I still feel like bully is about being the baddest motherfucker. - I mean, like Jimmy walks around like as soon as he beats the shit out of like a gang and takes over, he's like, "Yeah!" - Yeah! - Who's the man? - I'm stronger than the best. - I mean, like the first thing he does whenever he takes over a gang is you're going to stop fucking picking on people. - That's true. - Right, right, true. - It's a good set set. - So he's a "might makes right" kind of guy. - I guess so. - He and T.H. White should get together. - He's a Teddy Roosevelt kind of guy. - Yeah. - All right, let's hear that last letter. - So this is from Evil Genius. This is basically where we're almost coming up on time to pick a new game club game. - I should think about that. - We'll name him next time. - Well, yeah, well, I think we'll nominate some next time. So he has some suggestions. They're available on Steam and two or three other consoles. They are B titles that seem to get lost in the shuffle. So set your expectations to B. - Okay. - Just name them. - And join me. Option number one, Clive Barker's Jericho. - Yeah, what's this guy's name? - Evil Genius. - Evil Genius, yeah. - Can eat my ass, Evil Genius. I want him to go play 10 minutes of that and tell me that he still thinks that's a good idea. - This is a fucking opening cinema. - Yeah, the Jericho is terrible. - Jericho is terrible. - Really? I've never waited. - Yeah. The opening monologue says the word Jericho about 40 times in two minutes. - On one up, in the old game videos days, Jason Bertrand went and did an interview with Clive Barker. - Yes. - And it's fucking incredible and I highly recommend that you-- - I mean, I love Clark Barker. - That you brave the game videos, terrible tech and terrible servers to go and watch that particular video. - I will do so. - His voice is super fucked up. Did he have my throat cancer or something? - I don't know, but it's an awesome interview because he's fucking crazy. - All right. - All right. - Continue with the choices. - Dark Sector. Dark Sector actually isn't terrible, but I've played through it. - Yeah, I don't know. - Driver, parallel lines. - Is that like, "Drived 3R"? - No, that's not "Drived 3R." I do not know. I thought it only me and my friends called it there. Far Cry. - They're original? - Yeah. I will say this about Far Cry into a lesser small. - It's a small. - Jericho. - Far Free on Game Tap, I think. Gun. - Gun, I always wondered about it because-- - Gun's right. - Yeah, I heard pretty decent things about it. - I own Gun and just did not get very far into it. Kane and Lynch, Dead Men, unfortunately, I wanted to love that game. I would not recommend playing it for Game Club. - Yeah. I would veto that. - Lost Planet, which I don't-- I mean, have you played through Lost Planet? - No, I've only played the demo on the Xbox. - Yeah, I've played through it. - I've played through it. I've played through it. I've played the multiplayer a lot. - So, I mean, I think too many of us have played through Lost Planet. He actually-- we went to the Lost Planet launch event in Anthony, like, one. He was a finalist for multiplayer. - Nice. It's true. When I went to the launch event before I was pressed, I had asked the kid next to me how to get into the multiplayer match because I couldn't figure it out. And he talked to me like I was a total idiot. And then when I got first, he looked at me and said, "You got first!" He was so upset. And all I had done was quickly found a cannon and sat on it and camped the whole time. That's all I did to be a number one. - Which was enough to outsmart those wily Japanese. - Yeah, the top eight of us got to play the developers. - Wow. - And beat their ass. - Wow. - So in a further tradition of nominating, so-so shooters, the people have already played prey. It was nominated. - I actually played prey. - I actually played alien vagina doors. Saints Row 2? - No. - This is too early for that game, I believe. - I think that for Game Club, that's not too early. - Oh, okay. It's an excellent game. Saints Row 2 is a lot of fun. - And actually- - In fact, I do believe that Tyler did an excellent video review on this former video podcast show on which I used to work. - Oh, really? - Yeah. - And then he actually does have one slightly inspired suggestion, which is Second Sight. - I don't even know what that is. - No, it's from Free Radical. It was their third-person action spy game with a character who has, like, psychic powers. It came out at the same time as Psyops. - Oh. - And got sort of buried by the awareness of Psyops, but it was really cool. - Interesting. - And it had the same sort of graphic style as Time Switters. - Evil Genius, not all of your selections totally sucked ass. - Jericho sort of- - Jericho tainted my- - Digs you in an awfully deep hole. - Yeah, I don't think I'll be using your thing. - On that note, I think we're- - We're dead. - We're playing up to Chapter 4. - Yeah. - Through 4, up to Chapter 5, the start of Chapter 5. - And I think maybe we'll- we might do a contest to start our next episode. I had a pretty good idea for a contest that I want to talk to you guys about, so we'll have more information on that. - Maybe. - You win, we'll come make your house. - Fat penis. [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] (bell dings) [BLANK_AUDIO]