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Game Club - Bully Episode One - 03/25/09
The crew plays through the first two chapters of Rockstar's Bully.
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But we're going to be doing our first session on Bully anyways. Wait, Ryan isn't here? And there's actually a good chance to get out then. I'm fucking out then. No, it's just a pillow. You can leave it on it. There's a good chance to get out. We fooled you though. Damn it. There's a good chance that Tyler might actually play to catch up for next week and participate with us. Oh, that would be cool. So, I talked to him at it yesterday. The end. He's 50. The end. Everyone likes Tyler. Everyone loves Tyler. Tex and Tyler. He won't have as many opportunities to tell stories about Texas. That's what you think. Arthur, is this going up in a new RSS feed or not? Okay, so there is an RSS feed. There's an RSS feed for everything, honestly. If people are only interested in subscribing to Game Club, I will definitely put up what that RSS feed is. We still need to get with iTunes to announce a new podcast at that RSS feed. But I'll write a post about what we think. We'll say this is probably on a new RSS feed. We'll put it out on the normal feed as well. But there will be a new one going up this week, next week, something like that. There will also be a new one for Rebel FM Proper. So, we're working on it. ASAP. No, I mean, they exist. It's just iTunes needs to be updated and Zoom. And getting that pushed through will take some time, so. So we played up to the starter chapter three. Yes. Did everyone make it? Everyone except somebody who never made it. I'm a little behind. I'm a little behind. I'm not going to lie. Refresh my memory. Phil's also the only person who's beaten it. Did you? Yeah, I have beaten it previously. So I was too clear. Clarified. Did you finish call of Cthulhu? Yeah. Okay. Well, okay. I got to the end and I got to where it bugged. Right. Yeah. End of that I went and watched to the end. I know. I was in the final encounter. I finished. Okay. Yeah. I did the same thing. That's also a no. But pulley isn't bugged, so. I begged to differ. Well, on console. Sorry. Yeah. Let's start with that. Let's start with what we're all playing on. I'm doing the 360 version, the scholarship edition. I'm playing the PS2 version on my PS3. I'm from the PC version on Steam. PC is also scholarship. It's also a scholarship. It's scholarship edition just adds in like new clothes and a few new missions. New classes? Yeah. New classes and new missions. So I'm the only one playing non scholarship. We have biology. Which biology and music. A lot of people were trying to correct me and say that it is really easy to find. It is really easy to find on the internet scholarship edition, but I drove around like the local area of the Bay Area. Yeah. We tried to buy it. It is a retail. It is a hard to find on 360. What is this? Retail. I went to three places in San Francisco. I went to every game stop between here in Oakland and in Berkeley and to Target. You bought it. You tried to buy it in retail. I just, I just. Matt actually looks like incredulous. Like he just seriously does not. Not everyone can be gifted a steam code. Well, we could have gifted you a steam code as well. Well, I mean. You did buy non steam. I mean, I could have bought on steam too, but I really wanted to play it on PS2. Yeah, fair enough. And it's good for us to like have different people playing it on PS2. Right. You know, playing it on PS2 isn't that bad. But I mean, like when I see Arthur playing it, I mean, it is remarkably ugly on PS2. Well, it's actually a different engine as someone in the comments pointed out. Is it really? On PC and 360. Yeah. It's grinderware on PS2 and I think we maybe. I had no idea. And it's Gamebrio on a game. Gamebrio? I think that sounds like somebody's made up game engine. I think. Gamebrio. No, it's a real engine. You might check online really quick, but I think that's what Bethesda uses for Oblivion in Fallout 3. Let me. I'll look it up. We'll see. So. So bully. So I want to mention too, because some people are confused. I'd said in the post to get through the fall section of the game, and I didn't realize it would be clear to just say the fall section ends at the end of chapter two. So that's where we played up through is to the end of chapter two. Yes. Cool. So what's everyone thinking so far? The first thing that actually jumps out at me is how much I like the music in the game. Yes. That's exactly what I actually have, Robert Ashley. Really? Especially the part when you're like rolling around on the bikers. I love playing them a little bit. I love playing them a little bit. Yeah. I was trying to think, man, this music fits the emotive, I don't know the words that I'm trying to regurgitate out of my insides. It's only Ryan right here. Yeah, exactly. The words that I'm trying to say are, yeah, they're not coming. So the bike riding music is so emotive of that experience when you're a kid. You get on a bike, and you're going in. And it's like an adventure. And it is. It's an adventure. Every time you go on your fucking bike, it's an adventure when you're a kid. I remember that feeling, and that's exactly how that music struck me. So I want to, just to clarify, the PS2 version, the original uses Renderware, the scholarship edition, all versions of that. So the Wii 360 and PC version use GameBrio. Cool. And what other games has GameBrio been used for? Let me click it on Wikipedia and find out. Thank you. But yeah, as I think Arthur was about to quote Robert Ashley, who said it's a Reminds Mobile Wes Anderson movie, the music in that game. And honestly, a lot about that game reminds me of a Wes Anderson movie. It's funny. Yeah. Right. Well, I mean, it's pretty clear that all along that Rockstar is fans of media in general. And if they haven't seen Rushmore, I would be seriously surprised. Before we get into specifics, the first thing I want to ask is, Arthur, I know that you were unhappy going into this because you're not a big fan of the GTA games. And I personally think this is quite a bit different from GTA games. The structure is similar, but just as far as the feel of the game, it's very different. So I'm curious what you think after this first gameplay session. It still has my number one pet peeve about the GTA games until Austin Damned, which is getting from what you want to do. Well, and no mid-mission checkpoints. And no mid-mission checkpoints. Although the missions in this are, for the most part, until you get near the end, I think the missions seem really short. There's also no autosave and that burns my ass. That's just because yours keeps crashing. It doesn't keep crashing and that's, if it kept crashing, it would be different, but if it just crashes every once in a while, you forget that it's gone and that makes it more nerve-wracking. Yeah. But I actually save religious lately. Like I literally will not do something without saving immediately after. That's a bummer. I haven't had any of those kinds of problems, but I'm also using Vista. Oh. I have four gigs of RAM and apparently that's a problem. But the thing that always bothered me about GTA, with the exception of the shitty mechanics and bad graphics, I didn't get lots of hate, but yeah. Kind of. Is the thing that- Backstart does not forgive. Well, I mean, they've sold their Grand Theft Auto San Andreas, Liberty City, and Vice City. I mean, what do they-what more than they want? Your approval. Your approval. [LAUGHTER] Universal approval is getting to the things you want to do from where your board takes more time than I would like often. So what do you-what do you mean-I understand where that comes into play in terms of- Like, it's not over. But what about Bully? It's still there. It's not as bad, but it's still there, which is basically like pounding the A button on my skateboard trying to get from point A to point B is kind of annoying. Unlocking the bikes is nice, though. Yeah, I don't ever-I don't ever ride my skateboard. I just kick a kid off his bike. Even then, I mean, you're still- You're- You're pounding a slightly less. [LAUGHTER] God. [LAUGHTER] God. He'll be like, "Fat kid girl jock, I'm seeking out the fat kid. I'm like taking out my ass about to break up as a fat kid." You get docked to more your-your bully-wanted level goes up more for kicking a girl off her bike. Boy, for hurting a child. I'm just imagining Anthony actually just pretending that that's himself and yelling at himself in the game. I'm just- I actually yelling, but it turns into tears. I'm like, "You fat fucker! Go-go make yourself feel better. What are you doing? Go eat something. Cry to your mom. What do you think it's doing? I'll tell you that they're just mean. Being outside. You'll never have sex until you're 25. How does that make you feel? [LAUGHTER] Whoa. [LAUGHTER] You just went in the Game Club overshare. I wanted to make this go to an uncomfortable place. [LAUGHTER] Quickly. Success. Anyways. Anyways. So I mean, even on the bike, it's still- I didn't have sex lives. Tapping. [LAUGHTER] Just thought you should know that. So you didn't feel too alone. [LAUGHTER] Someone now assuming that he really did just tell us when he lost anything. I have no reason to lie to people about that. You do, actually. I think. What? It's the internet. [LAUGHTER] Anyways. Next thing you know, you're going to be telling them about your sixth toes. I wish I had a sixth toe. I do have two extra nipples, though. That's awesome. Anyways. Can I see him? Yeah. I'll show you. There's a little vestigial thing. Anthony just raised up his shirt and he's pulling out. A little brown thing's right there. Really? And the reason I know that these are vestigial nipples is because like this one- It has hair growing at all. It's the only spot on my chest besides my other nipples to grow hair. Wow. That's why I think I absorbed my twin. [LAUGHTER] Anyways. Have you seen the dark half? Yeah. Sometimes he comes out. So one thing I really like about Bully so far though, like other GTA games did it as well, but I think Bully does it really well as a-- I like the fact that it-- man, I'm sounding like an idiot right now. I just-- Do you have three stars? I think we're all clearly exhausted. Yeah. It's not like the fact that it does a billion different games and it does them well. Yeah. Whether it's like a button pressing game or like a racing game or everything like just feels actually pretty good. Yeah. And mechanically, it is much more mechanically sound than any of the grand theft auto games that preceded it. Yeah. And so like the fighting, I enjoy the fighting actually. I enjoy the combo systems. I enjoy the combo systems. I like unlocking new moves. Once you can sweep the fucking leg, that's it. Yep. Like you've won. Yeah. Does that do you learn that in wrestling class? No, you learn that from the hobo. Oh, see, I die. See, you neglect the hobo at your peril that part later where you're fighting the guy and you have to keep his other guys from coming into the room. Like with the leg sweep, that took me like literally 15 seconds. Yeah. What took you like four minutes and three tries. That's true because I shot him with the slingshot the whole time. Oh, wow. And I'm just taking down his health. But yeah, mechanically almost all of it is really sound. It's just that game mechanic of, well, I'm trying to be as not bored as possible getting from what I want to do to what I want to do. Right. It's just so small in Bully, though, and to me, like because it's so small, this is rock stars chance to make something that's a lot more detailed. And so for me, it's much more interesting walking around the world and just watching the people getting to like check out the areas, there's so many, the cast is so much smaller than in a GTA game that it's not just that you're hearing people say funny things as you're walking, but you're hearing people say those things and you know who those people are for missions and stuff. Yeah. So for me, that I really liked going around the town and around the school and seeing people that I recognized, you know, there's nobody in this, well, they're very few just random faces in this game. Right. And most of the time you recognize, oh, there's the nerdy kid who gives me fart bombs or whatever. Right. Like you see like algae. You see algae a lot. Yeah. There's the girl that I always get my kiss bonus from. Yeah. And I mean, yeah, that's all fine and good. It's still there a lot of times where I'm annoyed at the 90 seconds I spend trying to get to the next part of the game. Fair enough. But I mean, it's, I enjoy what I've always liked about the Grand Theft Auto games even when I didn't play them, which is the characters and the story and the art style. The writing behind that barrier character is like perfect. Oh, dude. From the second you meet them, you're like, this kid is a sociopath, like there's no doubt in your mind, like this kid is out to kill someone and it might be you like for looking at them. And I got the impression right from the beginning that Gary is supposed to represent what everybody thinks of your character as. Yeah. You know, everybody thinks you're this kid. Or what everybody thought the game would be. Yeah. Or it came out. Yep. Yeah. Good. Well, that brings up, um, Storm and Mormon, and our comment says, good name. Yeah. But a question is coming to my mind and that is norm reference. That is, was there a fuss over the content that is in bully? Admittedly, I have not done my research, but the question stands, I find the content in bully to be far more disturbing than that of any GTA or Resident Evil or any other game, which has been on the controversy cutting board. I don't know what dictates what makes us feel disturbed and what doesn't, but I have a feeling that in this particular case, it has something to do with kids and their portrayal is sadistic and twisted. I'm only 12% done with the game, according to the progress tracker in the game, but I still feel the game has a potential that really makes me question the way I feel about violence on some level. So it does make children look violent, sadistic, but the sad trick is that I fucking met a lot of teenagers who are violent and sadistic. Yeah. The level of parity is way lower than it is for any grand photo game like the exaggeration. I mean, I imagine that, I mean, I can't speak too excited and go to a crazy private school, but I imagine these kids that do get sent to these crazy trust fund private schools are fairly fucked up. Yeah, I mean, kind of the point of bulwark though is that not only is it a crazy private school, but it's the worst crazy private school that you could possibly say that too. Is that the breakdown? Like, because it gets kicked out of every other school that wants to give to this one? Yeah. Essentially. And also, I mean, we should recognize too that like, obviously the game's still, I mean, it's still going for parity. I mean, it's not trying to be a super realistic portrayal. No. Parts of it where you're like, yeah, I recognize this in, you know, kids I remember from growing up or in myself from growing up. But they are exaggerated. Yeah. I mean, it's very exaggerated. Like you have to kill a silent Audrey too at one point in the game. So you have no, you don't get that reference. You know, little shop before is watching motherfucker. Oh, not in a long time. I've seen it. It's not even the rip Moranis movie version. Yeah. I mean, that's the one I've seen. That's the only one I've seen. I always have expecting you to break into song right now. I want to see the musical. They did that. They did that. I go to my high school. I mean, I like the song anyway. Little show. I don't know. Fuckin fail. Anyways. Yeah. So I do like the characters. The first person I kissed was the girl with like two ponytails. Not the girl with the fuckin mouth warts. Oh, that I guess the big girl is the first girl you kiss cause it doesn't give you a choice. Yeah. What about life, I wonder? No. I don't know. Pretty much when I play that game, I'm not to kiss anyone I can. Like the second I found out I could kiss the preppy girl. Like I potentially could. I was like, what do I fucking gotta do? She's like, I'm on a present. I'm like, I'm buying a present right now. I actually like stocked up on chocolate and flowers. Oh, so did I. But then like, I failed the, well, sorry, I'm skipping head to the carnival. Whatever. I'm just saying, like when I went to the carnival, I failed the first night immediately. All I just went to bed woke up and was like, to the carnival again. Me and you. And then I got her that prize and got kissed and got her picture on my wall. Like I had made a point to start the game and kiss as many dudes as possible. I just want, that's what I'm saying. I was just out to kiss anyone who would give me a kiss. Yeah. 360 version, you definitely get achievements for kissing as many dudes as possible. Like I, I just have never found the opportunity to kiss a guy and bully. Like they're always trying to punch me or I'm protecting them. Right. There's a lot of time for action or romance in those situations. I mean, you've got to kind of know which guys are going to be open to it. Let's fill points at Anthony. Is that what Gary's problem is? It's all sexual tension. I don't know. Well, it, so, but I mean, just to be clear though, so you guys, you guys don't agree with Stormarmon. You don't find anything really super disturbing about the game? No, I mean, I guess it makes me uncomfortable at some points maybe, but. Well, part of his question was that he, he, did he say that if I, if I heard you correctly that he didn't really know if there was a large controversy around this game? I mean, he, he, he wasn't informed on whether or not there had been in there. There had been. Yeah, it was actually a huge controversy. I mean, the game of the game was brilliant. It was like, especially back soon as I kissed boys. So as soon as the game was announced, Jack Thompson, the notably infamous anti-violence in video games, self-righteous attorney in Florida. Don't sugarcoat it, Matt. That's how you really feel. Tried to, tried immediately to, to do all kinds of things to get bullied. I mean, I'm part of the Florida in the United States, in foreign countries, you know, all kinds of stuff, whatever he could do. And well, I think it's worth mentioning too, when this happened, like part of the problem was nobody really knew much about the game. No. All that it was, was that it had been announced. They knew that, all they knew it was, all that people knew is that it was the people who made GTA. And it was like a kid in a school. Also coming off hot coffee. Yeah. As well. Yeah. So I think, I think a lot of assumptions were made about it. I mean, it's a balance and bully to be comparatively little. I mean, kids get beat up, but no one gets killed. I mean, fuck him. I haven't seen anyone die. Nobody dies in the game. You haven't unlocked a gun yet. So. Oh. I mean, fuck man. It's like, if they're little, it turns into a shooter eventually. I mean, even when you get caught by an authority figure, all you do is like hit him in the balls or something. Yeah. Sometimes that's my favorite part. When you're, you don't even hit him. You just like crush the balls. Yeah, crush the balls. Like, I needed those. Yeah. But I mean, you, fuck, you might as well ban John Hughes movies, if you're gonna be mad at Bowie. It's way more objectionable. Shit. I don't think you knock anyone up in bully, but we're only... Of course. I don't even know him. I don't even know him, bully, if you ever get beyond kissing. No, you don't. Like, I strived. Like, as soon as that, that preppy girl was into me, I was like, what do you want? Like, what do I got to get to second base? Yeah. I wonder if you can kiss the art teacher. That's what I was wondering. Cause you keep making these like really like kind of semi-seuctive paintings about her. Right. It gets more selective as you go. Yeah. I was thinking that I was like, well. I do like how I... When you ban art class, it ups your kissing bonus. My kissing bonus is at like 75% now. Nice. At some point, I think the final one for that, for art is when you complete it, you can kiss people without giving them presents. And then the fame for Mrs. Robinson plays. But yeah, to go back to the violence thing, I actually don't like Anthony said, I don't find this, the violence is disturbing as in other GTA games, like even GTA 4, you know, which is even somewhat less psychopathic than the others. You can't even really beat someone up once they're beat up. No. Like, you can just make fun of them. But it's like in GTA where I can just sit there and turn them into a bloody pole. When you kill someone in Grand Theft Auto, they're fucking dead. Yeah. You can still sit there and kick them in blood to come out and shit. Yeah. Whereas here, I mean, like, even after you, you defeat someone, the last time you're going to defeat them, like, they still walk around, you still see them. Yeah. Maybe part of the problem is... Sorry, go ahead. I was just going to say, maybe part of the problem that Storm and Mormon is having is just that with games like GTA or Resident Evil, those are situations you can't fully relate to. It's like, you're shooting zombies or you're like a mafia member. But here, this is something where even if you didn't go to a crappy private school, everybody can relate to going to school and to knowing kids like this, like we'd said. It's time in Mormon, learn something, presence, equal kisses. That's what I'm thinking. But I also... I mean, if he's Mormon. I also feel like... That's part of the problem. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Come on. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Come on. I have to, like, habitually offend someone. It's true. I'm just kidding. It is true. Next week... Next week? In theory, Mormon should get to kiss more. In theory, Mormon should get to kiss more people, right? Like, multiple people at once. Aww. Aww. Love, love, Joseph Smith. No, no. It's like, "Candy equals a marriage at the temple." Anyway, sorry. Leaving Mormon isn't completely behind. I love Mormon's. I love Mormon's. I have a lot of Mormon friends. So do I. He did. I actually have more ex-Mormon friends than I do actual Mormon friends. But anyway... He killed them. I think also about the violence in this game. I think the... Who's the main character's name again? Billy, right? What is it, Billy? James, James. That's right. And James, I think... Jimmy. Jimmy. You asshole. Jimmy. Why'd you tell him James? It is James. James, Jimmy. All right. Well, whatever. It's the same. Jimmy's Jim Boy. It is the same. No. Sometimes people... When the teachers talk to you, they call you James. When your friends talk to you, they call you Jimmy. So anyway... Anthony would talk to him like a teacher. Jimbo, Bob. I think the whole point of this situation is that he's in a... Like, whether he deserves to be at this school or not, he's in the worst situation he could possibly be. And unlike the GTA games, instead of him being a sociopath, psychopathic killer who's just trying to fight his way to the top of the food chain... He violently sodomizes someone at some point. James. Jimmy. Jimbo is actually... He's a sympathetic character instead. He's not even an anti-hero. He's more like a hero that's in a really bad situation. I mean, yeah. Who just happens to have this streak of anti-authoritarianism. He's the straight man. A lot of times when he ends up doing something that's potentially like bad, like when you finally go and settle shit with the preppies at the end of the second chapter, like that only happens at the behest of someone else. Like, he never makes these decisions like actively like, "I gotta go fuck some people up." He's like, "Oh, I guess you're right. Maybe I should do this." Like, he kind of feels sorry for him because he kind of lets other people determine his actions a lot. That's true. Curtis S. says, "Bully begins off as a very stereotypical game. You're this arrogant troublemaker, a screwed up kid. You're in a school filled with a few different clicks that are also extremely stereotypical. You hate everyone and everyone except for these two other individuals also hate you. Immediately I was very insulted by the stereotypes, but then the game began doing something strange. The game began to parody itself. One of the main characters begins to talk about how he's too cool to be a nerd but too nerdy to be cool. I think that was... P.D. probably? Yeah. This is striking because it becomes much more relatable to real life. What is also interesting is that the playable character who comes off as an ass, I began to sympathize with when I understood his situation. In a real world, I think of myself as a very cautious, well thought out individual, but if I was in his situation, maybe I would have turned out a bit differently. It's amazing that I can sympathize with someone so different than myself. I think where you really begin sympathizing with him is the end of the... For me at least it was the end of the first chapter where you do that fight against... Russell. Russell. Yeah. Where there's fight club. Yeah. You do that and then at the end Russell's kind of lying there and the main character Jimmy kind of picks him up and is like, "Listen, are you okay, Russell?" I didn't say anything about your mom. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And he does something there that's just very smart and it's even-minded, I don't know. And then Russell's your homie. Yeah. Exactly. And Jimmy isn't... He's not a violent kid, you know? Yes, you can decide to go around and punch people. Yeah. Actually, don't do that. I don't do it either. I don't do it either. I don't do it either. I only do it by accident. I actually punch people all the time. Exactly. In GTA all the time I think, man, I just swerve in it for you. But in this game, I go out of my way to avoid people and not run into them or I don't just grab people and shove them into a garbage can even though I can. Well like Arthur said, it's actually, for me, the only time I hit other people that aren't directly attacking me is an accident. And that reminded me my chief complaint on the PC version is the controls. Because as I'm moving the mouse trying to move the camera, it targets other people. And that pisses me the fuck off. It's like all time with my slingshot. Okay, so the way you fix that is plugging a controller. Right, but I'm not going to do that. It plays so well with a controller. Right. But I don't want to have to do that. You know, I want to play it with PC controls even though it's like they're really not set up for it. In fact, it has things like when you're navigating the menus, you need to use left shift and left alt. You know, it's like, who fucking used those keys, you know? God, it was like some guy that has never played a PC game lifted and he's like, well, he seemed like if I was going to make a menu thing, it'd be this. Right. It's like they put, all they did is map a couple random keys to the thing. And then like, if you go into the option menu, it's kind of into the controls menu. It's kind of like a call of Cthulhu in that it's clearly a controls menu that was just lifted directly from the console version. And because I was trying to figure out, well, how can I make it so left shift isn't my action button for everything? Because hitting left shift with my pinky is a pain in the ass or pinky is the case, maybe. Yeah. Because you know, you have to keep tapping in order to sprint, which is fine if all you're tapping is the A button on a controller. Yeah. Fuck that though. Right. Exactly. So I'm like, how can I change this to a key that I can actually use or change it to the thumb button on my mouse, which is really easy to use? And it turns, it turns out that the action key for like everything is labeled just sprint in the menu. So it's like, I finally, I finally figured that out after a while. So now I can sprint using my thumb button and I can do all this other stuff easily. I mean, to be fair, the PC version is essentially the 360 version, like they literally just ported the camera. Yeah, I'm sure it was, it was mostly an aftercare. Because Rockstar does not have a great history of doing a fantastic PC port. Which is actually surprising because I'm running the game in 1920 by 1080 and it runs just fine. Except for, there are some parts where it slows down for no apparent reason, except for in the area prior to Fight Club, when there's all sorts of like shadows being cast is when it really slowed down super bad. I thought it was, I don't know if that was shadows or if that was, it seemed to me like it might be the particle effects and stuff coming out the suit. It was, yeah, I mean, that's the only thing I could think of because that's the only part of the game where for some reason, instead of just doing shadow textures or like having gate or like chain link fence textures, it's like they modeled every part of the fence or something. Well, well, whereas playing it, I'm PS2, you just accept a weird frame rate. Like, it's like, it's like 20 frames a second on PS2 all the time. It's like playing the original grant, I've thought it three. Right. Like, yeah, I remember that. And it kind of has, you know, the motion blur thing going on when people move fast. Well, it just looks like a PS, I mean, it looks like a PS2 game. Yeah, but a lot of PS2 games didn't look like that. The open world ones. I know what you're saying though. So, definitely. But I'm, why, why don't you want to use the controller, like if I can ask? Well, for one thing, I don't have, I don't have a wired Xbox controller and the wireless ones don't work. And yeah, I know I could borrow one. And another thing is like, I feel like I want to experience it with the PC controllers. Because if you're going to do a PC game, I want to see if you've failed or succeeded at transporting, at transposing the controls. Well, now you know. Yeah, that's true. Now I know. And for the, for the most part, it's okay. It's especially easy. You know, like when you do the mission where you have to, it's one of the tutorial missions where you climb up into the tree and you have to slingshot down all the jocks, all the whole football team and missions like that are super easy, or like when you're, when you're protecting the nature aiming with the mouse is 20 times easier. Yeah, aiming with the mouse is, is easy as pie. So, you know, like the, when the nerdy kid is running for class president and they're trying to ruin his speech, it's the same kind of situation. It's super easy with the mouse. It's probably easier for the biology class too. Okay. See, that's the one time where I was like, fuck, I wish I was using a mouse. Wait, what is that? What did you have to do in biology? You have to dissect the frog. It's, it's the added, the added games, unless you have the scholarship edition, I think. The added game, the added classes, which are music and biology, these were obviously made for the Wii version, because they're like ones where you can tell if you had a Wii mo, like a pointer, it's, it's much easier. So for, for biology, you're doing like, you're cutting open frogs and stuff, but you're doing the full dissection process, so you have to pin the fucking legs and then you have to like cut open. So you've got to like, you've got to point at your tool and then you'll select your tool, bring it over to the thing and like, drag down and then select the next tool and move over again. It's like trauma center. Yeah, it's like trauma center. But on the controller, it moves, the pointer moves so slow, so that makes it really hard to pass them. I failed the second biology class by like a couple of seconds. Yeah. And I, and I've always, I've always had like way too much time left over. Yeah. I haven't taken the second biology class. You know what class gives me the hardest time, it makes me feel like a dumb ass is a, is what the one with the, like where you're just doing the word like English. Yeah, English, just sorting the words. I still haven't taken English class. So you guys get to skip in classes, huh? I don't go to class. I run around doing shoot. I like, I got to do it. You get bonuses. I go to a mission class. Mission class. I'm busy talking to a hobo. Okay. I have time for fucking English class. Well, that's just it. It's like Jimmy actually learned stuff by going to class. Jimmy learned stuff from both of them. His life improves. And the other, the other nice thing too is that, uh, when you finish up all the classes and you've got, I think it's five lessons on all of them. You never have to do them again. Yeah. You don't have to do them again. You don't get, you don't have to worry about truancy or anything. Oh, well, I didn't know that. From what I understand. Well, that's cool. I just like street. I've actually just, I was postponing doing missions because you know how in a GTA game you can always tell when you're going to move on to the next chapter or the next section or something like that. Because there's only that one mission left. Yeah. So I was like, okay, I only have this one mission left. So I wonder if I can just keep going through the school days and doing jobs to get, yeah, doing jobs to get money and doing the classes and I was doing that. So I was building up my stats by just going to classes and doing jobs. I kind of wish there were weekends. Yeah. Me too, actually. There are weekends. There are still like cool days. Like the Halloween day. Halloween day was fun. It was really cool. Apparently Halloween will go on forever until you trigger the last mission. I'm pretty sure. Wait, what? Like Halloween, the day of Halloween will go on forever. Yeah, I think actually in the scholarship edition there's an extra Halloween mission if I remember right, because what did you do for, did they have like a big final prank? No. Yeah. So I had to do like the lesser pranks of Chevy people in garbage cans and stuff. And then I had to finish it off with a prank to someone like the principal, I think. Like you get dog poop. Yes. And I just didn't remember the steps on it yet. Yeah. Coach, yeah. Because, I mean, they kept telling me like in the loading screen in the little hints they said. Like a couple of times before I got the Halloween mission, I said that it would, it's kept saying that mission is only available during Halloween, like implying that you can miss it or something. But yeah, there's one mission that the scholarship edition has that I could have done if I had figured it out, but didn't, which is small, like something involving a midget at the carnival. But I couldn't figure out how to get to the fucking carnival, which is going from the loss of the damned, which is the most recent GTA type game I've played to this. One thing that sticks out to me is how much the fucking map in GTA games before four sucks. That's true. That is true. I actually had a really, I had a mission that led me to the carnival and that's how I ran into the, into the little person there. Yeah, I didn't know how to get to the carnival until the mission where you take the girl on the date to the carnival. But I looked for a long time, I swam the fucking channel, looking for a way to the carnival. I tried to like get 10 tickets at the carnival by playing all the different games and then I realized the easiest way to do it, just do the slam the bell, the hammer thing. I, I aced all of this, like the first time, except for the one where you're shooting bottles and Mexicans. Had a hard time with the baseball ones. Because apparently Mexicans are hard to shoot and not worth many points. That is what I take away from. There were 15 points. And you, I mean, it's, you need a hundred points for one ticket. The star is worth the most. That's what I'm saying. If you just mash, you know, a button, you can do the slam, the wave thing and get them so fast. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I did the couple, I did several of the carnival games and they're actually pretty well done, I thought. All right. Another comment here from Gabe. He says, "Bully so far strangely reminds me of the book Catcher and the Rye, which is awesome. It's a similar setting and opening and he uses the term phony much like Holden did. Maybe for a sequel, they could really go with the Catcher and the Rye theme. I was curious what you guys thought of us." I definitely caught him using the word phony and I was, that brought me back to that. I don't know if you guys are that familiar. I was hoping for a separate piece for bully too. A separate piece, oh man. That brings back that experience. Yeah. No kidding. I actually didn't catch onto that at all until you mentioned it and I'm like, hmm, I can see that. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely more tongue and cheek and humerus than Catcher and the Rye. I mean, it's a little bit there. I can see some Holden Caulfield. Caulfield. Caulfield. And Jimmy, just because he's like the one who's real and everyone else is fake. But I don't really see it though is, you know, Catcher and the Rye, it was pretty clear early on that you were doing this thing from somebody who I had a particularly skewed view of the world. And in bully, at least so far anyway, it seems like a skewed world coming at Jimmy instead of, you know, it being Jimmy's warped view of things around him. And the characters in bully are more multifaceted than most of the characters in Catcher and the Rye. I don't know if I agree with that. There are some really nuanced characters in Catcher and the Rye, but I mean, there are a lot that exist. There are many nuanced characters in bully is what I was saying. But see, I think that that's, I don't agree with that. I think that there's a lot that's implied is going on with a lot of tertiary or secondary characters that you run into. I mean, like you run into Russell who's bully and tries to beat your ass, but you realize that he was just manipulated. And then there's Gary who obviously has problems that are, yeah, but Russell's character doesn't, like that's, that's what happened to him. But his actual character doesn't go deeper beyond the fact that he is a big dumb bully. Yeah. That's just only character. Right. And like he says things like, Russell bed Russell, sorry. Yeah, but the implication there is that maybe there's more going on with the bullies than just like, Oh, well, there are kids in white shirts. And I just feel like there is a lot that's implied as far as character development. And I mean, I'm still early in the game, so that may never like come to fruition. I'm actually hoping that Gary's shenanigans changed tone after a while, because so far the only way he's been able to make people mad at you is say that Jimmy said something about their mother. Yeah, that's sort of. And bad things about that. And I'm like, really, is that going to be the only way that he manipulates other people is by spreading rumors that Jimmy is spreading rumors. He just needs to dig a trap. What's that? He needs to dig a trap with spikes in it for me to fall out. Exactly. I just want his, I want his shenanigans to be more clever because I want Gary to be a more, uh, complete version of a lawful evil sociopath. Yeah. That's nice. Man, we just can't go any podcast this week without a super nerd reference. Um, Scribble Bandit says, I love the sense of humor, but I feel that Rockstar could have done much more if they were to make this more serious, sort of like what they did with GTA 4. More serious version could contain things like drugs and sex. Rockstar isn't going to do something like this. Who? The rockstar did it with Grand Theft Auto. But not at all. But involving teenagers. Oh God. Oh. There was a game like this. Basically, he wants the game that Jack Thompson assumed. Exactly. Yeah. Hey, Rockstar. And it's called, uh, it's called a leisure suit. Larry. Oh, God. No, there's anything you've ruled Rose. Kind of. I'm just thinking a leisure suit. Larry was like that. It was just like you're a kid at college and you're just trying to bang people and stuff. And it's all about sex. Right. But it wasn't serious. No, but I don't think bullies that. Uh, this is not the OC. I don't want the OC. Yeah. And the C response, I don't think serious issues would fit in with the attitude of this game takes. It's not trying to create a gritty realistic world. I wouldn't want to run around giving wedges and throwing stink bombs and then have a mission where Jimmy begins to learn the dangers of sexually transmitted diseases. This game parodies the real world but doesn't try to recreate it. Right. I sort of agree with that. Me too. Like a serious, uh, take on the teenage school setting could be interesting, but it's not the game that I wish bully was. Right. Like I'm happy that bully is what it is. Yeah. I think it would be super compelling, actually, if somebody tried to create a game that was like the movie Kids that fuck that game will never happen. Yeah. Exactly. I mean, I wish I wish everyone's got eight eight eight eight eight eight the team America game, though, that could happen. I wish that I wish that games, you know, were in an artistic space where something like that, while, you know, kids was controversial, it wasn't the kind of thing that you thought, Oh, this movie could never be made man, that would not be a game that would be one of those things. It was like, I'm an interactive experience. Yes, you are because there's no fun. Like you can't have a mini game where it's like, Oh, well, I knocked this chick up. Oh, my results came back positive. The mini games are shit's like selecting the right words to get into some girls pants. It's the mass effect. It's trying. Yeah. Exactly. It's trying to have sex with two virgins in one day. That's the ultimate goal. With AIDS. Well, he had AIDS movie. Yeah. He was just given them it. He could have some good, we mini games around this, I feel like too far. All right, then let's change subject. We just covered the plot on the next God of war game. Oh, X equals AIDS attack. It's love you. It's an attack that really decides. Oh, that's circle. We already know what X is for, okay. My bad. That's kind of AIDS. Zeus TFC says it's not AIDS if it's a gym. Zeus TFC says the mission based structure is getting taking some getting used to. I realize this is classic GTA structure, but none of GTA's have grabbed me enough to play for any length of time. I'm still not sure how I feel about it. And then he goes on to complain specifically about the save algae mission with which a lot of people had trouble with because it's the first escort mission. I mean, there aren't a lot of escrow missions in the game, but this is one of them. Yeah, it was interesting. He barely made it for me. I remember having trouble with that a lot in the PS2 version, but I didn't have any trouble this time. I did it my first try, but I think it kind of bugged out and I think he went because aren't you supposed to go to one bathroom and then he says no and has to go to another one? No. I had trouble with it just because I think I know targeting him by accident and again, like he doesn't take any damage at all. So I was beating the shit out of him without intending to. Yeah. I couldn't do that mission without a prefect walking into the bathroom after the bullies came in after me. Oh, right. Like he would go into the stall and start doing whatever he needed to do, which could be pee or something else. Like he always-- Like he always-- Because people also shit. I'm pretty sure it was peeing. Whatever. If he walks around-- Because we call him pissing. You can say poop. Yeah. Well, he's got his underwear hanging out all the time too. Poop. [LAUGHING] That is like a conversational speed bump. Poop. Poop. So-- Poop. So I would-- God damn you. He would go into the stall, two bullies would run in, and they would start to fight me. Right. And I would punch the shit out of them and ride as I was about to beat them a prefect would see us and run in. Yeah. And there's no-- you're fucked once the prefect comes in. Yeah, they never have them anymore. Yeah. Like I think that just patrols that area. So that makes it more difficult. Fuck, Rockstar. You're going to have better timing. So about like the missions in general, I actually had a lot of fun taking some of the random missions after you unlock those where people run up to you and say, hey, do this fetch quest for me? And for some reason in bully, they're actually fun, whereas in a GTA game, they would kind of piss me off. Are you saying-- I'm exactly sure why that is. You're saying pulling the fire alarm is fun. Matt, is that what you're saying? Pulling the fire alarm is fun. Yeah. That's new. Pulling the fire alarm and making-- Nice to see it in the Ziffdave's office every day and be like, I could get out of work right now. Where is it? One of the ones that sprayed dye all over your hand? No, that's awesome. [LAUGHTER] No, that's awesome. What's in that fire alarm? I would-- Why is Anthony painted up like Grimace? No, I would have just got on Bart and just been like, ran all the way there. [LAUGHTER] You don't have to stay at the knee. See? He got caught in the fire. One of the missions that I thought was cool but actually annoyed me was the panty raid one. I still haven't done that yet. The reason why it annoyed me is because one of the headmistress or whoever it is in charge of the girls dormers patrolling the halls and has like x-ray fucking vision. And you can't hit her. Panty-red. And you can't hit her. I didn't do a panty-red. Because if a teacher-- Oh, you have to be out in the city at night next to the adult shop and the coach walks out. And that's how that mission starts. The coach sends you on the panty-red mission. I did not get to do a panty-red. But if a teacher grabs you and you hit them like your wanted level goes max and it does not go down. Well, it does eventually. It does. And you can actually-- I found that you can hide, at least in my game, I've been able to hide in the locker as well somebody is chasing right behind me. Oh, even if they see you get in? Yeah, it seemed like it was working. And I think it's also fun to walk around and pick the locks. Yeah, I actually really like the lock picking for some reason. And just like figuring out what I'm going to get, usually it's just random pieces of clothing. Right. That's cool. It reminds me of splinter cell lock picking. Splinter cell lock picking. Like where you move the stick-- I mean it is splinter cell lock picking, actually, now that I think about it. Basically, I don't really remember the splinter cell lock picking. You move the stick around like the tumblers until you feel it's slightly vibrate, I think. Oh, OK. Zeus TFC also says, "Why is everyone in the school a psychopath? Why do I get attacked by the jocks on my way to class and then even the nerds join in and try to kick my ass?" Is your ass real? What the hell? It just makes it more interesting, I guess. I think it's just running point B. When does a nerd attack you? Well, it changes. This must be right at the beginning that he's talking about because as soon as you start doing missions and getting your reputation with the nerd group, the people you get on your side immediately. I think the nerds, I think, actually really like me, the nerds, the one group that I've gotten plus respected. And then there's the one like bruiser nerd with the fucking fingerless gloves, who's like he would beat the fuck out of anybody except for Russell? Maybe he's new in the scholarship edition, but he's definitely there all the time. I think the arc of this game though is clearly you have to beat up each click in the school and get a girlfriend from each click in the school and then eventually you're going to confront Gary at the end. I'm just hoping that that structure kind of changes to that. I was going to say that too, like that's the twist. From what I remember, and it's been a while since I played it, I think the structure does get played with a little bit more than that near the end, like it becomes a little bit more than just do this click, do this quick. Because when you do that. For the first two chapters that's what it is. When you do that mission and Petey's the one that tells you, well, the jocks are never going to respect you unless you go beat them up and their own place and take out their one. I was like, maybe Petey's the one that was like, that's some art of war shit. You know, James has been talking shit about you, Gary. You can't trust James. Gary. Right. Just like manipulating Gary. I don't trust. That would be awesome. I don't trust that PD fuck because what I'm trying to say. Do you not trust him because he was watching the swim team, to be honest? Because he was... Is this the way he wears pink, right? Oh, that's okay. I have a pink shirt. I like pink. I don't trust people the way I'm playing. Pink is all orange. Will you change into the pink shirt? I think we need to have you change into a different costume every time we do a podcast. Oh my God. This is going to be a recurring site idea. Maybe I'll wear my pink shirt out tonight. Please do. I guess it's more serious. Do you guys have any more memorable missions though from these chapters? It's like... I'm trying to... You know, I dug the ones where they would send you out in the town but I found them inconvenient just because I had to go out into the town. Yeah. I mean, I like the boxing ones. I actually thought the boxing was pretty good. Yeah. Like, it wasn't... Again, it's not like... It's not like you're playing fight night or anything. But I mean, for just being an added feature in there, the boxing is pretty good. Yeah. It's more fun than the new ready to rumble game. I actually did like the election one where he's giving the speech and you have to shoot you. I mean, it's simple, but it's a cool mix is up the structure and suddenly you're doing something different. Yeah. And it's still fun. And then immediately... And this is one of the things I like about the missions in Bully in general is that after a lot of the missions and in addition to classes, you'll get upgrades of some sort. Right. Yep. You get bonuses fairly quickly. You get the sniper. The sniper slingshot. Yeah. Which is cool. I thought the Halloween one was awesome too. I mean, we talked about that a little bit earlier. Oh, when you go in and fucking dairies dressed up like someone from the SS on your bed. I'm like, "Jesus Christ." Yeah. That's how it wasn't obvious that he was... Was this Prince Harry? And then, yeah. I mean, I thought it was cool just getting to prank different people. That was fun. I accidentally hit girls one time in the prank and it docked me. It was an accident. Well, you can hit girls with like itching patterns and stuff and it's okay. I think I hit them with a stink bomb or something and that counts as violence. You can even engage in underage misogyny and palm their behinds. I saw that too. I was trying so hard. They kept on looking at me and then I'd be like, "No. Lock on and rotate. I'm going to slap this girl in the ass. I'm going to slap this girl in the ass." I feel like this is the only, like considering it, this feels like the only rockstar game where your protagonist is actually like not a nuanced bad guy, but like a generally... You can play as a good guy and not be forced to do things that are super fucked up. Right. We've got actually a comment about that. Nice guy, Paul. He says, "One great thing about bully is that it doesn't fall into the same problems that GTA has with narrative. It's easier to relate to your character because the missions make him seem like a regular kid with some anger issues, unlike how just about every mission in GTA game makes a character look like a total psychopath. There's also somewhat logical restraint set upon your character. You can't wage a one-man war against the authorities like you could in GTA as they can totally kick your ass, but at the same time, it's not like the prefixes show about random and they aren't too hard to run away from. The prefix seem like more like regular people in the game. There are series of individuals placed in the world rather than the constantly respawning army of cops, and even though they want to apprehend you, they won't go to extraordinary means to do so. Yeah, if Jimmy were in a GTA game, there would be a point near the end of the game where he takes someone's face and turns it into a pulp on a corner or something, and I don't ever see that happening. No, I think I'm going to kill Gary. If I give him the option, I'm going to kill Gary. I think Gary gets expelled, like that's the... Or Gary kills himself. Jesus! I'm just saying, that would make it easy. Yeah, you walk into your room and Gary is hanging from the rafters in his SS costume. Exactly. That is where this is going. That's right. That happens at the end of chapter four, and then you still have a chapter left. And then that bitch, Petey goes down, and then Petey goes down. I'm just wondering, I'm waiting for more stuff to go home with the principal, because in the beginning it seems to establish that your primary... He's got it in for you. The main antagonist is going to be the principal, and then it fucks with that, with Gary trying to get you killed. I think the principal's just a douche. He's just meant to be a douchey principal. Yeah. I don't know. Mission success. I had a principal like that in high school. I'll kill him too. Every principal. They kept telling you to keep your nose clean. Yeah. He said that like three times in the first... He did. He kept saying... He was the only adult that saw through your façade, Phillip. All right. All right. My clean nose just saw him. Everyone, we've had this discussion, everyone else thought, "That Phillip is the sweetest boy in the principal's eyes off. There's something fucking... You're like Dexter. I hope there's your... I hope there are more missions where they like send somebody... with you too. Because I thought it was really cool when Russell rolled up with the other mind. When Russell rolled up. He's like, "Yeah, we are going to fuck these kids up." Yeah. And then Russell dug. I threw an egg and some kid would run up and almost punched me and then Russell would just charge and knock his shit to the house. Russell would mix their asses. I'd be like, "Man." How did I beat Russell? Yeah. Well, with a slingshot. Yes. Okay. Do we have any other like favorite missions before we... I feel like we haven't really gone through this in a narrative form. I guess normally we kind of go through. It seems weird with like the mission structure trying to go through each mission. Yeah. Okay. So I mean... There's a lot of them too. We all ended at the same point. So the last part... It's me. Well, the people that did what they were supposed to... That's true. ...ended where they were like, ended at the same part. Which is that you... Your principal hated you. That's true. You beat the crap out of the preppy is in the boxing ring like to finally gain the respect. Yep. Or not, not in the boxing ring. You win in the boxing ring then you have to beat the crap out of the head preppy. See, and at least that mission does have a mid-mission checkpoint. Yes. After you beat up all the boxing, if you fail, it at least only loads you back there. You don't have to do all the boxing again. Yeah. I mean, I... Yeah. And so then you... After that, then you get the date with the preppy girl and you take her to the carnival. No, I had the date with the preppy girl long before that. Whenever I did the boxing, she was always the one on the ringside being like... This is how tired I am. Yeah, Jimmy. You're so strong. I'd be like, yeah, I am. They're gonna give it up to me with your mouth after this. Well, come on. I don't really talk like that. That's why it's funny. It does really talk like that. I've been on dates with him. And he wasn't kidding about the mouth thing. That's what I do on a double date to make Phil look better. I just kind of like the really big asshole. You have to look like a total like, I'm at the date with you, like just with you, me and you. You have to look like a member of the Manson family to make Phil look better on the double date. That's what you're saying. Poop. Poop. So you beat the crap out of the main preppy dude and a bunch of other preppies and that's the end of that chapter and then it goes into winter. And now everyone's wearing beanies. That was one of the things I was disappointed with is I couldn't find like everybody's wearing these cool like sweaters and jackets and I couldn't buy a beanie or jackets or anything. You get some winter clothes. You do? Yeah. I couldn't find it. I seem to recall and I might be misremembering but we'll find out next week. I went to the student store to try to buy some stuff and into the market to try to buy some stuff. But from the PS2 version like I spent a long time wearing you get like a sweater that has Rudolph on it. Yeah. Just a really awful looking sweater. Yeah. And I remember wearing that for a long time. So maybe it just reminds me of Zelda where like everything that you see in the game is him in this one outfit just like every Zelda game is linking the green outfit then as you progress you get the red and the blue. Well yeah currently my guy's wearing like the preppy outfit with the aqua bear and that's that's resistant to fire so. The aqua bear sweater and the aqua bear sweater. Yeah. You did that so I could get a kiss and get in with the puppies. Why else would you do it? I know that's why I dress the way I do to get in with the puppies and get kisses. How's that working out for you? Kisses. Not working out. One last comment from Decca they bring up a bug here. I bought the game the day it came out for Xbox 360 having previously on it for the PS2. From the outside I resolved to get 100% completion and all the achievements. I accomplished this quite easily except for the last achievement which was to get 100% completion and this is a good point to point out to let people know that the completion percentage that they keep track of like in the GTA games that's including all the bonus stuff. Oh good. Like that's not just the story. Yeah because I had done like seven or eight missions and it was like three percent. Yeah. That's all the bonus stuff as well. You start kissing boys. Well and even and there's even if you have the scholarship edition then you have the go destroy all the garden gnomes which is the one that you get from the little person in the car. Oh because he hates gnomes. Because she hates gnomes. So he says I had one achievement before this which was to kiss 20 boys thinking that this is the one that would bump me to 100% I did it as quickly as possible. Having done it my percent complete notched up to 98.5% I then spent the next five hours tracking down any remaining missions from students the ones that just come up to you. Each one bumped my percent complete up by a tiny amount. After getting frustrated I looked up an FAQ and identified the missions that I couldn't remember doing. I spent another hour doing this at the end of my percent complete was 98.9% and defeated I saved and turned off the Xbox. The next day when I was ready to dedicate a couple hours trying to get presumably the last few missions done I unlocked the 100% achievement approximately 30 seconds after the game loaded. And that's when I were in the real meeting of Christmas. Yeah I mean yeah I would have thought I'd have to do that after the game loaded. No that's what he says though he did pull out an FAQ event. I know I'm just saying that the second I decided to get 100% completion I would have an FAQ out because I don't know. Yeah. What the fucker. But yeah so just in case anybody out there is trying to get 100% and wants the achievement just let them know they might have to turn the game off and turn a peck on. That's the one I mean playing on the PC version where the controller is essentially playing the Xbox version and the only thing that makes me sad is the lack of achievements. It should make you sad. It does. Actually it actually makes me happy because it means I don't have to because if there's an achievement there I find myself striving for them and I would prefer not to. I like to think of achievements as a record of what I've done and not of something that I have to pursue because there's a possibility to pursue it. You have to pursue. You have to get all the achievements. It's all about the points. See I'm not compulsive about most achievements like that. So for next week where are we playing? We are going to play through chapter three. Cool. Oh just through chapter three. There are only five chapters. The chapter three is presumably pretty long. Well now that we've done chapters one and two for the next sessions we'll do chapter three, four, five and then for the last the last session there's also chapter six which is just the like a final game is done and you can do whatever you want now. So we'll also we can play. Chapter six. Yeah I'm saying oh yeah. That's what it's called. For the final episode or something we might try and bring in Robert Ashley. We had talked him about that. That would be really nice. He was the infamous person that gave it a 10 and EGM. Wow. I mean I'm not. Which by the way I would have been in a 10 as well. I know Robert Ashley got a lot of shit for that. Like I'm not necessarily of the same mind on Billy but I could see how someone would give it that. So yeah he'll be able to make his argument hopefully right here. Very cool. All right so we'll be back next week we'll talk about chapter three hopefully we'll be a little more energetic. Hopefully we'll have Ryan or Tyler or someone with us and are you saying I'm not enough for you Phil? No you're I mean you're enough for me but there's a mat to go around. I am more than enough. Well once Philip's done there's no more for us. This week's podcast is sponsored by the Godfather 2 from Electronic Arts. Godfather 2 puts you into the shoes of a New York City mobster working with the Corleone family. Take control of crime rings around three separate cities, rub out rival gangs, and prove that you have what it takes to be in charge of a powerful mafia family. The Godfather 2 act like a mobster, think like a don. Global April 7th and for pre-order now on the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, and Microsoft Windows PCs. Read an M for Matur. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music]