The Moscow Murders and More

Bryan Kohberger And The 12 Cell Tower Pings

From the archives: 1-6-23

Now that the Affadavit has been released, we have learned a lot more about the way the investigators went about building the evidence against Bryan Koberger. Especially evidence of the digital variety.

In this episode, we hear how Bryan Kohberger's phone pinged to the house where he allegedly murdered Kaylee, Madison, Ethan and Xana 12 times previously, going all the way back to August of last year. Not only that, he returned to the scene of the crime, according to cell phone data, the next morning at around 9 am where he lurked for roughly ten minutes before leaving.

Let's unpack it.

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Bryan Kohberger's phone pinged at Idaho murder scene hours after killings,12 times prior: investigators | Fox News

Duration:: 19m
Broadcast on:: 01 Jan 2025
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VGW Group, void-wear prohibited by law. 18-plus terms and conditions apply. What's up, everyone? And welcome back to the program. Now that we have the probable cause affidavit available to us, and now that we've had a little bit of time to go through it, obviously, there's a lot to get to. And when we look at everything that was included in that affidavit, it certainly shows you what the police were working on behind the scenes. And there were many, many layers to what was going on in this investigation. But it seems like the thing that was the clincher for them to really build this case was the digital footprint. And you would think somebody studying criminology would be a little bit smarter than what we see here. Unless, of course, you wanna play devil's advocate and say his whole entire goal was to get caught. I mean, if he wants to be the smartest man in the room, what better way to show that than to beat charges such as these? Now, I'm not saying that I ascribe to that, not by any stretch, but we have to keep all options open until we hear from the investigators or the authorities what the motive was here and all of the other details that are going to come once we get to a trial. I saw some people today talking about a possible plea deal that Brian Kohberger might try and strike. And again, certainly a possibility. But he doesn't seem to me the type of guy that is going to strike a plea bargain here and not try and fight these charges and show everybody just how smart he really is. Because remember, that seems to be his thing, right? Telling everybody and showing everybody how smart he is. So it's a bit ironic here that he was, let's just call it what it is, stupid. You're going to leave a sheath that has your DNA on it. At the scene of the crime, you're going to use the same vehicle that is your personal vehicle that's registered to you to commit these crimes. And not only that, like we're going to get into in this article, go back to the crime scene the next day. And once they were able to track down who they thought the person was, they're able to build an absolute digital footprint of everything you're doing, everything you were doing. And I wouldn't be surprised if the technology is so good at some point that I'll predict what you're going to be doing. But right now, the technology that is available and the way that technology is utilized by these investigators certainly is something that is going to be very, very hard for Brian Kohberger to fight once he gets to the trial portion of this case. Because again, I don't think he's going to take a plea deal. He seems to me like the kind of person that wants maximum fallout. And that's why he chose right around the holidays to commit these crimes and to murder these college kids. So let's get to this article from Fox News and see what's up. Headline, Brian Kohberger's phone, pinged at Idaho murder scene hours after killings and 12 times prior, according to investigators. This article was authored by Audrey Conklin, Michael Ruiz, Rebecca Rosenberg, Stephanie Pagonis. Brian Kohberger's phone pinged at the scene of the November 13th, 2022 quadruple homicide in Moscow, Idaho, just hours after the murders of four college students took place and at least 12 times prior to the slayings, according to an affidavit released on Thursday. So first, let's start with how the phone pinged after the murders. So was he home? And again, this is me speculating here folks. He's home and he didn't hear anything on the news about these murders because remember the phone call didn't come in to a little bit later. So he doesn't hear anything about these murders and he says to himself, "Hell, I better go down there and see what's going on." So he drives back to the murder scene like the brazen jackass he is and that move ends up costing him in the long run as well. I mean, if this is the kind of person that we're spitting out of these criminology programs, it's no wonder that the clearance rate for murders across the country is so down. If you're too stupid to leave your phone at home or not even bother bringing it or using it while committing a crime while in the vehicle that's registered to you, I don't have much hope in you being this mastermind criminologist that's going to capture a bunch of suspects and solve a bunch of crimes. Now, as far as the 12 times prior to the slayings, obviously he was casing the place. He was over there trying to figure out what the best course of attack would be for him, when he should attack and how he should attack. Why else would you be over there 12 times? You better have some kind of excuse set up if you're going to try and defend that in a court of law. Because just saying, well, I was driving around listening to my audio book, that's not gonna cut it when it gets in front of a jury. So I really don't see how he plans on explaining that away, especially considering when you add in all of the other factors, all of the other digital footprints that have been put together here, and you look at the blueprint and you look at the actual map that it puts together of where he was, what he was doing. It's gonna be real hard for his defense team to convince any jury that he wasn't the person who the police say that he is. Now obviously, we have a long way to go, and we don't know what kind of holes the defense plans on punching and all of this stuff. But as of right now, it's certainly not looking good for Mr. Kohlberger. And unless he wanted to get caught, he's certainly looking like quite the jackass if you're asking me. The suspect, a 28 year old criminology PhD student at Washington State University in nearby Pullman, Washington, also apparently visited the King Road residence where the murders took place right off the University of Idaho campus, at least a dozen times prior to the brutal murders. Pat Diaz, a retired Miami-Dade homicide detective with 35 years experience told Fox News Digital Thursday that someone studying for a PhD in criminal justice could use that as a legitimate excuse to visit the crime scene so close to home. Yeah, well, that's all fine and well. If he visited the home after the murders occurred, but he went back at 9 a.m. And nobody had reported them yet. And furthermore, what about the other times he had visited the home and those adventures? What was he doing then? How are you going to explain that away? But Kohlberger's alleged ping near the King Road house came at around 9 a.m. on the day of the stabbings. Roughly three hours before police said they received the 911 call. So none of it adds up as far as Brian Kohlberger's defense here. And if he doesn't have a competent defense, I don't see how he's going to even think he's going to get away with this. What I will say though, is there's been times before where I thought that the police had the goods on somebody and that person ends up getting off. Doesn't mean they're innocent, but they get off. And while it's not likely, it's always something I keep in mind. You just never know which way a Jerry's going to go or what's going to happen in that courtroom as far as the proceedings go, that could lend credibility to the defense or hurt the defense. So it's really up in the air as far as what's going to happen when they're in front of a Jerry. But as of now, what we saw in that probable cause affidavit and the other information that we're getting, it's really not looking good for Kohlberger here. All of his prior visits, except for one, were in the late evening or the early morning according to the affidavit. Further review indicated that the 8458 phone number utilized cellular resources on November 13th, 2022, that are considered or excuse me consistent with the 8458 phone leaving the area of the Kohlberger residence at approximately 9 a.m. and traveling to Moscow, Idaho, the affidavit states, specifically the 8458 phone, utilized cellular resources that would provide coverage to the King Road residence between 912 a.m. and 921 a.m. So roughly nine minutes. He went back there to the scene of the crime to check out what was going on for roughly nine minutes. Pretty chilling, man. And if he was doing that, what are the chances that he went to that vigil? I'm guessing the chances were pretty good. I can't confirm that and I haven't seen any, you know, evidence, strong evidence that he did, but he strikes me as the type that admires his work. The sort of person that was watching this all unfold, taking part in on message boards, you know, forums, whatever, certainly strikes me as the type. Kohlberger was ordered, held without bond on Thursday for allegedly stabbing Kaylee Gonzavas, Madison Morgan, Ethan Chapin, and Zanna Cernodel multiple times. Two of the victim's roommates survived, but heard strange noises near the victim's rooms and witnessed a mass suspect that morning. Now, I'm not going to go too deep here into that. I have another episode later on, and we're going to talk about that incident where the roommate saw who police allege was Brian Kohlberger. And that's a whole nother episode for itself. There's a lot to dig into there and certainly a lot to unpack. - Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest. Life comes at you fast, which is why it's important to find some time to relax. A little you time. Enter Chumba Casino with no download required. You can jump on any time, anywhere for the chance to redeem some serious prizes. So treat yourself with Chumba Casino and play over 100 online casino style games all for free. Go to Chumba Casino.com to collect your free welcome bonus. Sponsored by Chumba Casino, no purchase necessary. VGW Group, void where prohibited by law. 18 plus terms and conditions apply. - Police link the 8458 phone that ping near the crime scene to Kohlberger because the suspect identified it as his phone during an August 21st, 2022 traffic stop in Moscow. He was driving a 2015 White Hyundai Elantra at the time, the same vehicle. He was driving during an October 14th, 2022 traffic stop by Washington State Police. Upon review of that footage, police determined he was the sole owner of the car. He changed his license plates on November 18th, 12 days before they were set to expire. And like we were talking about earlier, if you look at this stuff piece by piece, then it's easily explainable. But when you look at all of this stuff and put it together in its totality, it's all pretty damning for Brian Kohlberger. On December 23rd, 2022, investigators obtained a search warrant for records for the 8458 phone from AT&T, indicating that the phone is subscribed to Brian Kohlberger at an address in Albrightville, Pennsylvania, and the account has been open since June 23rd, 2022. So they were able to use this cell phone data to track him and pin him in these areas where these crimes took place. And I'm sure we're gonna hear later on that they also use some geofence warrants to try and get this information as well. Because there's no doubt that those 50 warrants that we heard about in the very beginning, the vast majority of those warrants, I would guess, were of the digital nature. And they were using those warrants to try and piece this all together like we see here. The phone Kohlberger allegedly used, initially pinged at his apartment in Pullman, Washington, about a 10 to 15 minute drive from the King Road House in Moscow, around 2.47 a.m. in the morning of the murders. The connection was then disabled until 4.48, at which point his phone pinged in various locations south of Moscow, and then again in Pullman, around 5.30 a.m., leading investigators to determine that the suspect may have been trying to deter police, or he was going to get rid of evidence, and there's plenty of places to do that outside of these little small towns. So that's certainly something the police are probably interested in. And my guess is they've scoured those areas, or they're going to scour those areas where his phone was pinging. Because we know that the murder weapon still has not been recovered, and there's probably more evidence out there, or there was as far as clothing, or DNA spatters on something else he was wearing, a pair of sunglasses, who the hell knows? But if you look at the route he took here from the crime scene, it certainly gives him time to dispose of some of this evidence. Based on my training and experience and the facts of the investigation thus far, I believe that Koburger, the user of the 8458 phone, was likely the driver of the White Elantra, that is observed departing Pullman, Washington, and that this vehicle is likely suspect vehicle number one. Moscow police officer Brett Payne wrote in the affidavit, additionally, they're out of travel of the 8458 phone during the early morning hours of November 13th, 2022, and the lack of the 8458 phone reporting to AT&T between 2.47 and 4.48 AM is consistent with Koburger attempting to conceal his location during the quadruple homicide that occurred on King Road in Moscow, he added. So a lot of damning evidence has been presented against Brian Koburger. And now it's going to be up to his team to try and find ways to pull coals in it. Additionally, the phone registered to Koburger was traced to the King Road murder scene on at least 12 occasions prior to November 13th, according to investigators, citing the phone records obtained through a search warrant, and that all builds the whole entire profile of what Brian Koburger was up to. And if you're the investigator, now you have that time frame to work on, you can go back and really dig in. Look at other surveillance video and really get a full-on investigation cracking off. Because my guess is, oh boy, was stalking these girls, or at the very least, watching them at night, look at the times he was there, early morning night, trying to get a feel for the place, and that's some chilling shit to think about. All of these occasions, except for one, occurred in the late evening and early morning hours of their respective days, the affidavit states, Koburger's motive for allegedly killing the four students and friends remains unclear. The affidavit also states that the suspect, who was masked at the time of the murders, walked right past one of the surviving roommates who lived on the first floor of the Moscow residence after she apparently heard crying. Now, we're getting more information about where the roommates were at, and it looks like Dylan's room was also on the same floor that Zana and Ethan's room was on. And somehow, some way, by the luck of the universe or God or whatever you believe in, somehow this deranged maniac didn't murder her. And now, she has to live with that for the rest of her life. The trauma that this poor girl's going to have is just bananas. And like I said earlier, I have another episode that's going to deal with that situation. Pretty much what I plan on doing is going through each of the new revelations from the probable cause affidavit in the form that we're doing right now, so that we can spend a little bit of time on each one of those things and try and break it all down. Instead of just having one big episode where we're trying to touch on each and every different subject, right? Because there's a lot to unpack here. So we're going to go about it that way. And hopefully that makes it a little more digestible for everybody, because something like this, you know, you got to eat the elephant one piece at a time. Moscow police who worked the case in partnership with the FBI and Idaho State Police announced December 7th that they were looking for a white 2011 to 2013, Hyundai Elantra spotted near the crime scene at the time of the murders. It was the first major clue that tight-lipped law enforcement officials released and the car search soon took center stage in their investigation. All right, folks, well, there you have it, the first installment of the aftermath of the probable cause affidavit being released. 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