On this episode of Metal on Metal, we sat down with Robin Staps of the German Post-Metal band The Ocean.

In this interview we discuss their new album Holocene. We also discuss Traynor amps, New York Hardcore, and the basis for heavy riffs.

This episode is sponsored by Hypaethral Records.

Links mentioned in this episode: *https://theocean.bandcamp.com/album/holocene

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjGQHsnuG8o *https://listen.hypaethralrecords.com/album/the-end-of-everything

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