This episode of Metal on Metal explores the classic Pile album Magic Isn't Real

We sat down with Rick Maguire, the band's vocalist and guitarist, to discuss the making of the record. We also discussed meeting tight deadlines, setting songwriting rules for yourself, and crusty tour mics.

Links mentioned in this episode:

• https://pile.bandcamp.com/album/magic-isnt-real *https://pilemusic.com/

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