True Crime Podcast 2025 - Police Interrogations, 911 Calls and True Police Stories Podcast

Former Oklahoma City Police Officer Daniel Holtzclaw Police Interrogation FULL AUDIO

Former Oklahoma City Police Officer Daniel Holtzclaw Police Interrogation FULL AUDIO

Former Oklahoma City Police Officer Daniel Holtzclaw Interrogation AUDIO (complete)

Daniel Ken Holtzclaw (born December 10, 1986) is an American former Oklahoma City Police Department patrol officer who was convicted in December 2015 of multiple counts of rape, sexual battery, forcible oral sodomy, and other sexual charges.

Holtzclaw was convicted of eighteen counts involving eight different women. According to the police investigators, Holtzclaw abused his position as an officer by running background checks to find information that could be used to coerce victims into sex.

During the trial, the defense questioned the victims' credibility during cross-examination, bringing up their criminal records.[5] Of the thirteen women who accused Holtzclaw, several had criminal histories such as drug arrests, and all of them were African American.The prosecution argued that victims were deliberately chosen by Holtzclaw for these reasons.

Holtzclaw pleaded not guilty to all charges. On December 10, 2015, he was convicted on 18 of 36 charges, and on January 21, 2016, he was sentenced to 263 years in prison.[8][9][10] Jason Flom (a founding Board Member of the Innocence Project), right-wing commentator Michelle Malkin and others have supported Holtzclaw's claims of innocence. On August 1, 2019, Holtzclaw was denied an appeal by the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals, which upheld both his convictions and prison sentence. The defense petitioned the Supreme Court of the United States on the basis that merging seventeen cases together "strains credulity". On March 9, 2020, the Supreme Court refused the petition.

Full Police Interrogations and Police Bodycam Audio - True Crime Podcast 2024

Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-podcast-2025-police-interrogations-911-calls-and-true-police-stories-podcast--5693470/support.

Duration:: 2h 21m
Broadcast on:: 30 Dec 2024
Audio Format:: other

Ranked number one in innovation, 10 consecutive years, Arizona State University isn't just ahead of the curve. It's creating new paths to success. Learn from notable clinical and research faculty online. That's a degree better. Explore programs at asuonline.asu.edu. - Welcome to Pro Tips for the Pros brought to you by Florin de Corle Littleton. In this series, we'll explore essential advice for professional contractors to deliver outstanding renovation results. Let's dive in. Prioritize quality craftsmanship and materials to deliver results that exceed the customer's expectations. Attention to detail and superior workmanship, we'll leave a lasting impression and ensure customer satisfaction. Thank you for joining us for this pro tip on planning thorough renovations. Stay tuned for more expert advice brought to you by Florin de Corle Littleton. - A lot of people tolerate ordinary, ordinary bathrooms, kitchens, entryways, well, not on your watch. If you're a pro, you've got a new partner in town, Florin de Corle. From tile to wood to stone, Florin de Corle has more styles and job-lock quantities of Schluter, Mape, Layde Crete, and other brands Prose Trust. Come see a whole new way to wow with Florin de Corle. Now open in Littleton. (upbeat music) - Welcome to our domain. - Now what's your first name? - Daniel. - Daniel. - Okay. - Daniel, just have to sit in here. - Okay. - And you got a piss or anything? You can have to sit there. - That's probably one of them. - I can hold it. I'm not a... (laughing) - I'm just... - All right. - I'm gonna run on out. - Florin's more comfortable, man. - Look up. - Down there. (upbeat music) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) (water splashing) - Hello? No chair for me? Let me bring a chair. - There's... - There's no chair. - Welcome to Pro Tips for the Pros brought to you by Florin Decor-Littleton. In this series, we'll explore essential advice for professional contractors to deliver outstanding renovation results. Let's dive in. Clear communication is key to a successful renovation. Select the customer informed at every stage of the project, addressing any concerns or questions promptly to maintain trust and satisfaction. Thank you for joining us for this Pro Tip on planning thorough renovations. Stay tuned for more expert advice brought to you by Florin Decor-Littleton. A lot of people tolerate ordinary, ordinary bathrooms, kitchens, entryways, will not on your watch. If you're a pro, you've got a new partner in town, Florin Decor. From tile to wood to stone, Florin Decor has more styles and job-locked quantities of Schluter, Mape, Ladecrete, and other brands' pros' trust. Come see a whole new way to wow with Florin Decor. Now open in Littleton. Welcome to Pro Tips for the Pros brought to you by Florin Decor-Littleton. In this series, we'll explore essential advice for professional contractors to deliver outstanding renovation results. Let's dive in. After completing the renovation, follow up with the customer to ensure their satisfaction and address any remaining concerns. Provide maintenance tips and guidance to help them preserve the results of the renovation for years to come. Thank you for joining us for this Pro Tip on planning thorough renovations. Stay tuned for more expert advice brought to you by Florin Decor-Littleton. A lot of people tolerate ordinary, ordinary bathrooms, kitchens, entryways, will not on your watch. If you're a pro, you've got a new partner in town, Florin Decor. From tile to wood to stone, Florin Decor has more styles and job-locked quantities of Schluter, Mape, Ladecrete, and other brands' pros' trust. Come see a whole new way to wow with Florin Decor. Now open in Littleton. Welcome to Pro Tips for the Pros brought to you by Florin Decor-Littleton. In this series, we'll explore essential advice for professional contractors to deliver outstanding renovation results. Let's dive in. Clear communication is key to a successful renovation. Keep the customer informed at every stage of the project, addressing any concerns or questions promptly to maintain trust and satisfaction. Thank you for joining us for this Pro Tip on planning thorough renovations. Stay tuned for more expert advice brought to you by Florin Decor-Littleton. A lot of people tolerate ordinary, ordinary bathrooms, kitchens, entryways, while not on your watch. If you're a pro, you've got a new partner in town, Florin Decor. From tile to wood to stone, Florin Decor has more styles and job-locked quantities of Schluter, Mape, Ladecrete, and other brands' pros' trust. Come see a whole new way to wow with Florin Decor. It's very giving, not to be yucky, but it's low back, where my back fusion is, and I can put my butt right there, so my tailbone's not getting extra pressure on it. I can't sit in one of those, it'll kill me. He's coming, but I'm going to do this while, and he may walk in here in a minute and get this done. Now I know you're an officer, and I know you've seen these a thousand times, and you've read them yourself. You still ask me any questions if you have one. Don't be embarrassed of that. You think I'm already embarrassed? Why are you embarrassed? Tell me why you're embarrassed. There's rumors going on, and we tried to do that as quietly as we could, and that's why we took you out the front and left, but this is going to make the rumors go away. For you. The rumor tomorrow is going to be on somebody else. Does that make sense? Let's get them off of you, and get them on to somebody else, and get this over with. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say, Cannon will be used against you in the court of law, you understand that? You have the right to talk to a lawyer, and have him or her present with you while you're being questioned. You understand that? If you do not court the hiring attorney, one will be appointed to represent you before any questioning if you wish one. If you decide to make a statement, you may stop the interview at any time. Do you understand each of these rights? I've explained to you. I do. You just write yes, or I do, or whatever, or I go, "Oh, you're laughing, too." Okay. Hold on. You shoot right-handed, but you're right-left handed? Yeah, I'm sexually. Me too. I shoot right-handed and right-left handed. That's... Which do you... You better right-handed, throw left-handed. Oh, I'm the opposite. I throw right-handed, but I back left-handed. Kick left, wouldn't you? No, I'd be corrected. How do you eat? Both hands. Left for me. Okay. Having these rights in mind, do you wish to talk to me at S, at this time, without an attorney agreement? Yes. Okay. Right, yes, right there. Read this out loud. I'd rather stay with my rights and understand what my rights are. I wanted to make a statement in the answer, questions at this time, and I wanted to attorney president at this time, understand and know that what I'm doing, no promises or threats may have been made to me. Welcome to Pro Tips for the Pro's brought to you by Florin de Corle Littleton. In this series, we'll explore essential advice for professional contractors to deliver outstanding renovation results. Let's dive in. After completing the renovation, follow up with the customer to ensure their satisfaction and address any remaining concerns. Provide maintenance tips and guidance to help them preserve the results of the renovation for years to come. Thank you for joining us for this pro tip on planning thorough renovations. Stay tuned for more expert advice brought to you by Florin de Corle Littleton. A lot of people tolerate ordinary, ordinary bathrooms, kitchens, entryways, well not on your watch. If you're a pro, you've got a new partner in town, Florin de Corle. From tile to wood to stone, Florin de Corle has more styles and job-block quantities of Schluter, Mape, Layde Crete, and other brands Pro's Trust. Come see a whole new way to wow with Florin de Corle. Now open in Littleton. Ranked number one in innovation, 10 consecutive years, Arizona State University isn't just ahead of the curve. It's creating new paths to success. Learn from notable clinical and research faculty. Online. That's a degree better. Explore more than 300 undergraduate graduate, graduate, and certificate programs at ASU online.ASU.edu. At Arizona State University, we're bringing world-class education from our globally acclaimed faculty to you. Ranked number one in innovation for 10 consecutive years, and number two among public universities for employability. ASU isn't just ahead of the curve, it's creating new paths to success. Earn your degree from the nation's most innovative university. Online. That's a degree better. Learn more than 300 undergraduate, graduate, and certificate programs at ASU online.ASU.edu. I know the pressure of force or thinking kind of has been used against me. A degree? A degree. Sign the print. That's too funny. I haven't met anybody else that writes left hand in here. It kind of creates a problem when you're on a traffic stop, doesn't it? Because you write and hold in your ticket book in this hand, in your gun hand, that is a degree? No, that's because you're huge. What's your commission number? 1782. Time masturbate, right, and like, is that work? I think I do that left hand. Well, I'm dominant. You are? Yes. Okay. Just like we talked in the car, and you've heard any rules? Yeah. So when I walked in the station, I see Kathleen over, not unusual. I've got Captain Glifton, hey, but then I've seen you in the cabin, I've never seen you, and so... Oh, nobody. But I haven't heard anything, so I'm just looking at things. You had said, and we told you that there was a traffic stop that somebody made some allegations against an officer. Yeah. They don't know the officer's name, none of that. And you said that you made a traffic stop after work, but you didn't call it in. I didn't call it in. Where was that? It was about north east 50th and Lincoln just to the west. Okay. Tell me about that stop. I was going westbound on north east 50th, probably a block just east of Lincoln. I see a red grand prix or grandin in my right lane, and now as I went on the inside lane. The car swerves, and so at the time I'm thinking, okay, it's probably a drunk person or maybe a guy excited because they saw a cop. So I kind of fall behind it, kind of dripped in just a little bit, and I crossed my lane lines, I think crazy. So I lighted up because at first the traffic violation, I saw it first when it swerved. And that was just west of the northeast 50th and Lincoln. And then I made contact, it was a black female, asked for a license insurance, stated that she didn't have insurance, gave me an ID. At the time I'm like, do you have a valid insurance or a valid license? She said, no, if I told her, oh, it just got off work. I mean, what's the deal, you know, why are you swerving? And she says, I'm just trying to go home to Ann Arborish on the northwest side to see your daughter or something like that. So I asked, is there anything on board as far as a vehicle? It's okay if I search a vehicle and one notch, she said, the only thing that sits out there is a Kool-Aid Cup. I'm like, is there anything inside of that Kool-Aid? Is there a liquor or anything inside of that Kool-Aid? She's no, I'm like, okay, is there anything else inside of there? She says, there's pills. I'm like, is that the only thing? And then, so I said, can't permission to search your car? She says, yes, it goes outside car, she loves pills, but I didn't really like scatter pills or in a bottle. She said it's hydrocoding pills, but I just quickly went and looked at it and I think I saw her name by the prescription bottle son. Oh, so it was a bottle? Right. Okay. There were several bottles in her purse. And then so at that time, I'm just returning back to her, it's like, okay, that's all your pills. I didn't see any alcohol. I sniffed the drink, didn't smell any alcohol on the Kool-Aid. I'm like, okay, I'm just off work, I'm tired. Get your license taken care of, just mine. So she didn't have a driver's license? She didn't have a driver's license. And I was just like, go to DPS, Department of Public Safety on a can, get that taken care of. Let's kind of lose. I'll do that. Okay. Then where'd you go? I want to show you how. Okay. Do you remember her name? I know. I know. I know. Okay. Do you make traffic stops normally after work? I don't, but in that case, I saw her swerve and whatnot, so I, I mean, yeah, I don't. Felt. I know. I mean, people can't say that, I just have a, you know, whatnot, I have the vision, whatever, but I felt like I needed to make that traffic stop. Okay. How was she? Was she respectful? Was she? She felt like she was nervous and whatnot, and I'm like, why are you nervous? And she was even crying. I'm like, why are you crying? Why are you nervous? Whatnot? And she's just like, I don't know. I'm just nervous because you're a cop and I got pulled over. Like nothing you had to be aware of so that I told her, I'm like, I don't really want to take you to jail for no SD. Ranked number one in innovation, 10 consecutive years, Arizona State University isn't just ahead of the curve. It's creating new paths to success. Learn from notable clinical and research faculty online. That's a degree better. Explore programs at asuonline.asu.edu. In Arizona State University, we're bringing world-class education from our globally-acclaimed faculty to you. Ranked number one in innovation for 10 consecutive years and number two among public universities for employability. ASU isn't just ahead of the curve, it's creating new paths to success. Earn your degree from the nation's most innovative university. Online, that's a degree better. Explore more than 300 undergraduate graduate and certificate programs at asuonline.asu.edu. Ranked number one in innovation, 10 consecutive years, Arizona State University isn't just ahead of the curve. It's creating new paths to success. Learn from notable clinical and research faculty online. That's a degree better. Explore programs at asuonline.asu.edu. Bill, all right, I think I just got off work, I'm tired. So, with my officer, courtesy, we're not, I said I'm going to get that taken care of tomorrow, later on in our way. And you don't have to fix, I'm not going to sit here and go, why didn't she figure it out? Well, that's a good one. No, I don't care. Um, was she wrong? Did you think she was wrong? I think she was, I think she was, she drank, but I don't think she, with my experience, I don't think she was past the level in it. Right, right. So, so, I mean. And that's what I asked her to, is like, with your pain medicine, so how'd you're feeling every now, every one of those that you drink with that maximizes the effect. So, I asked her that she said no, but I, when she was in the back of my car, when I was in the front car, as the driver said, I could smell it off of her, but I don't think she was still past the level in it. Okay. Okay. So, you got her out of the car? Yes. Okay. And put her in the back of your car? Yes. Okay. Any problems there? No, she was cooperative. To give me any problems or whatnot. Okay. Okay. And then you searched, did you run her through a unit 800? I did. You didn't? So, did you run her on your MDT? No, I did. All my, all my stuff, as far as that, because I didn't call it in and say I was a traffic stop. My computer was off and everything as well. Did you shut it off? I just shut it off. Yeah. I'm late. I'm 50 at that. I turned it off right before the traffic stop, basically. And where did you pick her up 50th and what about? 50th and Lincoln just to the west. But now where'd you see her swerve, kind of? I'd say a block just to the east of Lincoln and 50th. Okay. She pulled over right away. She was in the right lane, an outside lane, where I saw a swerve, and so she saw a police car right there, and so she kind of did what everyone does, slow down, kind of, okay, he's going to pull me over or not, and then I lit her up about 50th and Lincoln passed the intersection to the west. Okay. When you, when you put her in your car, did you pet search her? I came and I was like, lift up your shirt, is there anything hot even, anything as far as your waistband or anything like that, she said no, and then I put her in the vehicle and went from there. How's everything? Did your hands go on her? I backed hand it, I backed hand it on as far as the side. Where on her body? Tell me, you back hand it. Her waist, her waist, and the back portion, I don't touch her butt or anything, but the back portion of the waist, and then she lifted it up like right here, and there's nothing on it. Then she lifted it up like this? No. I never, like, whom, nothing, exposed her breasts or anything like that? She asked me if I was like, no, it's okay. She asked you. If you want to search me, I'm like, no, it's okay. So she never like put her hands on the car and you, okay, okay. When you, where was she positioned or standing when you back, when you did your, the back of your hand on her? It was about probably the right front right fender about that on my patrol vehicle. Was she facing you, or was she, no, she was facing away from me, and you just kind of did it like this? Yeah. Back in, yes. Okay. Did your hand go on her butt or anything? No, that's not what I was saying. It was the hip, the side, and not the butt section. What about right here? No. You didn't. No, I didn't. They could tuck a gun right there. That's why I asked to lift it up. Oh, so she just kind of showed you her belly? Right. Okay. Then you talked to her for a little bit. Right. So after you searched her, you put her in the back of the car. Right. Then, we used to always kind of keep the door open and talk when they're not like combative or anything. Did you talk to her and get information then while she was in the back of your car? Right. I talked her for a little bit just as far as what's inside the vehicle. Can I have you set to search your vehicle? Um, was there anything in that Kool-Aid? I said, no, um, just talking to her. What's the deal? Why are you driving late at two o'clock at night? You know? Why did you swerve? Um, since you don't need a harbor on the northwest, I had to visit her daughter in Berlin. So. Then you went out and searched her car? After she gave me a percent to search her car. How long do you think? I did a quick search, be honest with you. I looked on the seat, went on, sniffed the juice, whatever she's had, mounted some alcohol on it. Went through her purse, like she said, their pills and it looked real quick to see if their name was there. And that was basically it. Okay. Then when you went back to her, what happened? When I went back through her, I was like, okay, I had to smelly alcohol on your car and your juice thing. And I'm like, what's the deal? Are you really drunk or not? And she's like, no, I'm just trying to go back home. And at that time, I was like, okay, but I'll go ahead and follow you. Like I said, I'm not going to take you, Jill. I'm tired. I'm not going to take you, Jill. I'll go and follow you. And let's go back to the 44 and you should head west down on the 44. So that's what we did. Did you follow her? Actually, she, when I went behind her and we got in the car, she took forever and I saw getting annoyed. So I just, do you turn it and I went ahead and I saw her in the back view of my rear view mirror. And she was following the 44, but then I took off, going northbound on Broadway extension. Well, she took 44 to go west. So you were able to see her move out and go and then when you, did you lose her when you got on Broadway? When I went to northbound on Broadway and she went for the 44 west. Okay. Okay. Well, she's, it sounds like this. If you're a maintenance supervisor for a commercial property, you've had to deal with everything from leaky faucets to flickering light bulbs. But nothing's worse than that ancient boiler that's lived in the building since the day it was built. 50 years ago, it's enough to make anyone lose their cool. That's where Granger comes in. With industrial grade products and dependable fast delivery, Granger can help with any challenge. From worn out components to everyday necessities, call clickgranger.com or just stop by. Ranger for the ones who get it done. This is the lady, I mean, this is the deal where she's the complaining party. Okay. Okay. And she's making some sexual allegations, obviously, because sex drums is working it. Right. What is she saying? Well, was there anything, an accidental touch at anything? If she thought it, when I passed her jury, but I didn't lose nothing as far as, I felt like I would do anything as far as sexual or anything like that. And for my safety, I just checked and see the weapons or anything. And I, to make clear, I didn't, didn't touch her butt by the wayside and whatnot. If you would like me to do this for me to show you. No. I'm fine with it. And you have ever right to do that. She's saying that you made her lift up her shirt and when she lifted up her shirt, she exposed her breasts. No. No. Did you ever say that? I asked her. I asked her. Is there anything inside your bra? And she said no. So I was like, okay. And she said, do you want me to show you? And that's what time I said, no, no, I don't need to do that. She said that she said, do you want, she said she was doing this. When you said, is there anything inside your bra? And she was, well, no, I don't have anything like, did she do that? Yeah. She said, but I didn't look or anything like, like that. Right. And then she was like, do you want me to show you? I was like, no. She said, when she said, do you want me to show you? You said, yeah. Yeah. And she went. But could she have been, whoa. Flashing you. And now you don't want to tell me because you're pregnant. No. No. When I told her, no, I said no. Then she didn't go. Yeah. You know, because sometimes drunk girls are having a good time. Yeah. And partying down. And let's face it. And I've already heard stories about officers and whatnot. They want officers for heavies or whatever. And I said, no, but you could have said no, but I'm asking you if she flashed you anyways. I didn't see her. He didn't see her breast. I didn't see her breast. I didn't see her breast. All right. What about pants? Nothing in her pants as far as I can see her. She was wearing tight jeans. She said she pulled them down. Well, I didn't see it. You didn't see her pulling down? I didn't see her pulling out of pants. Could she have done that when you were searching the car? She could have. I didn't have her. Did she have them on? I didn't have her hand cuffed or anything. And you came back to the car and got her out where her pants fastened. Yeah. They were up. And everything was saunty. So you never saw her pull her pants down. Why do you think she's making this up? I don't know. Did you write her a ticket? I didn't let her go. That's how I said I won't even arrest you for your nose deal. Trying to figure out why she would say that. I mean, I could see her saying it if you wrote her a ticket because she pissed off. Right. Now, make it quite clear, if you saw her boobs, I don't care if she's flashing me. I did not see her boobs. You did not see her boobs. No. I did not see your breasts. So she's saying you've shined your light on her. I did not see your breasts. Where do you keep your flashlight? The left side right here. Right down my radio. Did you ever flashlight out on the traffic stop? I didn't. When she was going like this, did you have your flashlight on her? But as I'm out on the radio like this, I have it positioned over us. Right. Did you have it on her when you're talking to her so you can see her? Just to see her. I mean, when she goes like this, maybe she could've come through. Right. To see her inside the vehicle. Was it the dumb light on? The dumb light was on. It didn't come on. I don't know. Does that come on when you're up in your back door? Mmm. It's been too long since I've been in a scout car. I can't recall to be honest with you. I don't think the back, I don't think it does. This was the dumb light. I'm just trying to figure out. How long do you think you were on that traffic stop? I don't think it was an excess of a regular speed, 15 minutes, just like a regular traffic stop. Or it's more, 15 minutes. How long were you with her? How long of that 15 minutes do you think was searching her car where she's, maybe she's sitting in the back seat? Like I said, that quick search probably had max, maybe a little bit over 5 minutes, maybe like 5 minutes if. So you're with her for 10 minutes? Talking her, yes. Did it take a while to get her to consent to search or what, 10 minutes long time? She was nervous and she was crying and stuff and I told her not to. Did she say why she was crying? She says police officer and whatnot and I'm just nervous because I got stopped by police officer. So I'm like calm down, everything's fine. And then so I think maybe with the fact that she had no SDL, maybe she was nervous as well too. And then so I went to the search and it wasn't that, it was a quick search like I said before. If it wasn't in detail, point up carpet, it was a quick search. Cause you're just ready to go home. I was ready to go home. Did you go home? Go straight to bed? I want to go home straight to bed. Okay. Think of anything? Yeah. I think that was pretty good. Wasn't that pretty good? Okay. We gotta do this. Okay. You know why? It's, I gotta take your buckles. We're doing that enough. That's fun. All right. If we, if we buckle swap anybody in the cabinet? I don't. That's a demonstration? Yeah. Don't let your name in there cause I don't even know how to spell it. How do you say your name? Daniel Holtzkal? Holtzkal. What is that? It's a German. Can you speak German? I'm not here. I read that out loud to me. It's, yeah. All right, Daniel Holtzkal, after having been advising my right not to have a search made of my body. Hearing after mention without a search warrant and my right to refuse to consent to search to such a search hereby authorized Rocky Gregory, detective of the Oklahoma City Police Department, knocked a complete search of my body located at 7-1 Coleport, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Officers are authorized by me to take from my body samples of swabs from my body where state names are, this written permission is being given by me to the above name, police, racial voluntary, and without threats of promises of any kind. Basically, you're giving back the swabs on every real wheel. Okay. We do this as part of it. Say this ain't so bad, huh? Well, I've never had a standstill. There you go. And you get a free teeth cleaning with your first time. You won't go none, though. All right, and then we're going to have more rounds. We'll have a couple more questions. Rob, what time is it on your watch? I'm talking about phone calls. I've got 4.50. Sorry, 4.47. So, do you usually do traffic stops on what I know or what was... I don't, like I said before, I really don't. I usually try to get home because I'm tired of it. Well, are you a big DUI worker? Well, when I first started coming out, then. But not really at the end now. Be honest with you. I usually, if I see somebody swarming, I'm like, whoop, the other way. And it's a little off Thursday, too, so... Well, Daniel, this is kind of one of the things that we're kind of bringing in here to... Right. ...see how truthfully you are. Right. Now, you need to kind of kind of think of a few different things here. Okay. I've pulled up a lot of video around that area after these allegations. Okay. She also have a sane exam, which you know what that consists of. There's a reason why we wanted your buckles. Okay. Now, we can go through a couple different things of why we've got you in here. But you sure there's nothing you want to... Nothing. So, if we go off the video and watch that... Right. You're still going to stick with your story. Yes, sir. If we go off DNA... DNA, as well. Should we show you the video? If yes. You do want to say... Do I guess. So, there's nothing that you... Everything that I recall of that night is what I asked and everything. That's what happened. Have I maybe not asked enough questions? I think everything covered as far as that. Do you recall putting your penis in her mouth? I don't. Would you recall that if you did it? If I did it, yeah. Okay. Well, I think you're really in all honesty and you need a really... Double think about this. I mean, I gotta be honest with you. It doesn't look really good. Girl. Okay. I mean, what you originally thought, detectives just don't roll up in there for no reason. Okay. And we just didn't pick you out out. Okay. I mean, there's a whole line up there. Okay. But there's definitely enough here to bring you in here to start questioning you. Okay. We knew you were on that stop. We knew you were there. And we can watch a whole lot of actions being performed while you were there. Mm-hmm. Okay. And that's why she was trying to give you every out on the whole booby thing. Right. Okay. Now, is there any reason, any reason at all, even from whatever angle? 'Cause, you know, it takes a little bit to clear up those videos. Right. But any reason why your penis would be out? No. Nothing? Nothing. Okay. Now, in doing this, you know how same exams work, and I ain't got to explain about DNA or anything like that. Right. Now, I didn't say you had sex with her. Right. Okay. They get in a blowjob. Okay. That is a different story. Right. Okay. You see my concern here. I'm just listening to Sarah. I know. But I don't know. I'm just listening to Sarah. I know. But I don't know how to listen to you. And you start talking. That's all I have, Sarah. Are we going to get something from the same exam? Go with the same exam. Do you understand that you don't have to full-blown ejaculate to get something out of the same exam? Right. If we can get something out of the same exam, we can get pre- ejaculate and do all that and still get DNA. Right. And did your penis go in the mouth? No, it did not. Okay. Because DNA will clear it up and here's the deal too. Right. We can fall in the sword. Okay. And say I screwed up or something. But if we say we didn't do it, we didn't do it, we didn't do it. And then the DNA comes back and says he did it. Then we have a huge problem. Right. We're here to give you the chance to fall in the sword so we don't want a huge problem. We don't want a huge problem for you. Right. This is time. It's time. If you're if it touched your mouth, if it touched inside of your mouth for one second, two seconds, three seconds, you got to tell us now. Look, there's a huge difference. There's a huge difference in between right being forced and some old girl who wants it. Right. Okay. We've had plenty of that. Right. We get that and we know that. Okay. But there is a big difference, okay. Right. But I'm just saying, you know, these videos ain't helping. And we're going to do the comparing and all that. Okay. Okay. But it's not looking good so far. Okay. Okay. And I don't want to see anybody go down for something that there was no force. Right. No. I'm not seeing any beating or anything like that. Right. Okay. I'm not seeing that big time big guy force or type thing like what we do see. Right. But if it was a get out of jail free card, that happens. We know that happens. And we got to know that. We got to know that versus, you know, he made me and I didn't want to blah, blah, blah. If it's a get out of jail free card, then that's a different story. And we've worked enough of them. Okay. Case is that it didn't happen. The problem is is where we're at right now. Okay. And that's why we wanted to hear your version of the story. Brother, we just go off of what we see and I mean, whatever this test out is. Right. Okay. But. Sir, I'm sticking with my story. Okay. Okay. On the video. Are we going to see her babies? Shouldn't see your boobs. I didn't see your boobs. Okay. Are we going to see her pull her pants down? I didn't see her pull her pants down. Are we going to see your penis out? Nope. Are we going to see your penis go in her mouth? No. Are we going to get any DNA to that? No. Let's switch up for a second. Get another girl. Okay. You probably don't necessarily going to remember the name. Her name is Terry Morris. Okay. Black female. Supposedly, you promised her a ride to the city rescue mission. This ring of bell? No. You did a traffic stop with her. She thought you ran it for warrants. He was clicking. Drove her around. Mm-hmm. Her name is a, I don't recall her name. She's claiming the same thing. The exact same thing. And here again. For whatever reason, the things are pointing at you again. Right. Now this was before even this incident this morning. Traffic stop. Not a log band. All that stuff. This morning? No. No. This has been a little bit again. Okay. This was here just a couple of weeks ago. Okay. Okay. Anything. I don't remember. Do you remember stopping? I don't recall a name. I don't remember a name. Okay. Well, I wouldn't remember a name. Right. How about Black Female Downtown? City Rescue Mission. That's why I was trying to jog your memory. I haven't been to a city rescue mission. I didn't say you made it there. Have you seen a scene you made it right? Anyone asked me to see a rescue mission? No. She didn't have to ask you. Didn't you offer to take anybody to the city rescue mission? No. I don't offer anyone 'cause I don't like going there. Yeah, honestly. I don't like going with what? I don't like going over the city rescue mission or anything like that. Okay. How about any stops of a person just walking, even downtown? Anywhere downtown? No. I don't... It's like I don't go downtown. Besides, if I go to class in that class, then what's the main, the valeros? Or the jail? Or jail? Or headquarters property. Right. Yeah, you just don't remember doing any of those type of stops. No. Not in the last month or so. No. Do you run, everybody, that you come in contact with? Majority of the time. That you didn't run. Oh, girl, this morning. The 50th. 50th, then Lincoln. Not him. I didn't run her. The other girl that he's talking about is kind of making the same allegations. And that's... That's weird. Yeah, that's... It doesn't look good. I mean, it doesn't look good. It doesn't look good. It doesn't look good. No, I don't. No one with the city rescue mission. Never been asked, never been offered anyone to go there. Do you give people rides sometimes? Not to give people rides. I do. Because sometimes I'd be like, "I'm not a taxi cab." Oh, okay. But... If you've always been in your new car, I mean, you've had to head it down. Uh, drive them another. I've had a wreck on 27 King, whereas down for a little bit. Starting out was in the pool cars, but this is my take-home car. But I'm saying in the last month, have you been driving any of the older cars? Mm-hmm. Black and white versions of the saw that was. Yeah, I think this is the only car I've been in. Have you ever driven a black and white car? I have, yeah. When... When was that? I brought out an academy to bring the crime dig. But when you wrecked your car and it was down, what did you drive? The crime dig? Black and white. A black and white one. Right. When was that? A year ago, maybe? Oh, okay. Okay. How long have you been taken for? Mm-hmm. Probably a year and a half. And it's been this one? This one. Yeah. So you wrecked it six months after having it? Uh, somewhere around there, yeah. That's nice. Yeah. Really, you're full. No. Well, that's good. Mm-hmm. What are you thinking about all this? Um, heads out here. Um, I want you to take the exam and get this over with. Um, I feel embarrassed because of going to the station. Um, well, that's why we try to handle it right there. Right, right. And I've heard of officers going through this and whatnot. And that's something I don't want my rep to be, you know, about. You know, I'm a good officer. I don't, that's not me. It's not me. Are you circumcised? I'm circumcised. Just ask him. Do you have pubic care? Uh, yes. Well, I mean, some people may unscathed, as you call it. Right. You groomed? I groomed. Yes. So do I. (laughs) You got any identifying marks around your house? Around your penis or? I don't. Just the plain old penis, huh? Plain old penis. Plain old 14, actually. (laughs) I don't say not that, but. See, you should have. You just had your opportunity. (laughs) I just don't know what, uh, what to think. Would you take a photograph? Uh, yeah, if you want to take a photograph. I mean, I'm trying to think of a solution. Do you know how slow DNA is? I don't. Do I do not? Slow. Um, you be willing to take a photograph on it? Yeah. Okay. I'm going. Get that set up. You, uh, just kind of delving off different, but you married? I'm not married. Girlfriends. Uh, here and there. Kids. No kids. You're big. You're unroids? I'm not. I say hoids. A little bit. I've been hoids. Which I don't care. I've always been a big. I'm not the boat police. I've always been a big bone. Yeah, football athletic. You got more than a big bone. You got big muscles too. I work out all the time. Do you? I do. Where do you work out? I have a four star gym. Off of me. About 63. Yeah. No ruins at all. No ruins. You do all the protein rings. I do a lot of protein. That contains your kidneys just so you know. So. If you did, Royds, would you tell us? No, you don't. I mean, because we don't care. I have nothing to hide about that. I've always been a big guy. I've always worked out all the time. And what not? What is the last shower you had? Uh, took a shower before work. When you went home, was anybody home? Uh, my girlfriend was home. Do you live with her? No, she doesn't. She just stayed. Do you live? Uh, messed around, yeah. What's messed around? Sex? Uh, I guess. We were all adults. We almost had sex and she was tired. What did you do? So, my penis went around her vagina. And then, maybe went a little bit in. And then she pushed me off and said, "No, we don't want to." I'm tired. I was like, "Okay." That's kind of mean to get that far and stop. So, that's when you got home? That's when I got home. How often do you have sex? Uh, about once a day, at that. You guys have sex once a day? Yeah. How old are you? Twenty-seven. Uh, well, yeah. How long did you jerk off? Uh, maybe once a day. So, you have sex once a day and masturbate once a day? If I, yeah. What did you do when you got chopped down at home today? Uh... You really got to relieve that. Right. That's... I know. That was before work. That happened before work. You masturbated before work? Yeah. Not... Did you just roll over and go to sleep when she didn't give you? Yeah. You're a bit accused of anything like this before work. I haven't. Not in Michigan. No. How about? You aren't one of those football players. I just see how it is. No, please. No, I'm on my... Anything, anything you can think of that will help... ...help... ...us help you. That's it. I want to step up. I want to get a... ...test. I want to get rid of my name. I want to get rid of my name. I want to get rid of my name. I want to get rid of my name. You know what? If this is a bunch of false allegations, then I want it cleared up too. Right. And I'll help you clear it up. And... And... It's... This... We don't talk. It's not swan... It's swan around spring-like. It's out there. It's in the department too. It's not swan around spring-like. It's out there. It's in the department too. It's not swan around spring-like. It's not swan around spring-like. It's out there. It's in the department too. It's not swan around spring-like. It's not swan around spring-like. It's out there. It's in the department too. It's not swan around spring-like. It's out there. It's in the department too. It's not swan around spring-like. It's out there. It's in the department too. It's not swan around spring-like. It's out there. And like I said, there's officers that I'm not saying being with the hookers is right, but it happens. Right. And it's life. Right. And if that's what this was, lay it out there for me now. Right. No, it wasn't. No. Well, she would... Did she offer anything? Don't take me to jail. Don't all do this. I'll do this to she offer you anything. I think she was nervous. She was nervous, like I said earlier, maybe a little flirtatious, but nothing crazy. She never offered anything in exchange for you, not taking her. Now she's really worried about going to jail, but then she... And sometimes they'll say, "Hey, I'll give you a hammer if I don't know." No. Yeah. She didn't offer that? Mm-hmm. She was nervous, like I said, she cried earlier. Did she cry as soon as she stopped her, or after she was in your car, when did she start crying? I think of the car, yeah. What made you let her go? Never wanted you. To be honest, I want to get home. Too much for a robot. Like I said earlier, just cop, swerve, DUI. And if I had to do it, I know if I had to do it, I would have done it. But I didn't think that she was possibly going to want it. That's just, I mean, I just would avoid that if I... Did you at any time... You said you picked her up around 50th and Lincoln. I mean, when you saw her swerve, did you at any time? Were you always behind her, or did you pull up beside her to maybe see who's in the car and then pull back behind her? No, she was at 50th and Lincoln. Swerve, and I was behind her, so I felt behind her. And then what's over there? You were always ever beside her. No. What language was she in? Close to the curb. Did you ever pull up beside her on this way and then fall behind her? No. Because sometimes... You're definitely behind her by here and she's swerve. And you stayed behind her. Because sometimes I would pull up beside to see, okay, how many people am I dealing with in the car? I didn't do that time. I've done that before, but... Right, you didn't do that one. Could you tell if she was the only passenger? I couldn't. Those dark tinted windows are going to tell us each other. So you didn't know how many people you were walking up on? Did she roll down her window as soon as you? She had the back, left window, rolled down. And then I thought she didn't have rolled it up. And I think she opened the door, if I recall. Okay. And was it pretty quick that you took her to the back to your car? After a couple of questions, license, insurance, typical thing. She just came in her little oak on my identification card. And that's why, okay, investigate attention, come back to the car with me. Okay. Yeah, 'cause that gives you a reason to search if you need it. I mean, what would you have done if you had found some no for a gun or something? I mean, as officers, if you found a little dime bag, it's, you know, you can squash it out, you know, rub it out. With gun, obviously, different story. Are you logged out, when? Uh, I don't know the exact time, but off prospect, when I'm about hit prospect, I'm probably about 50th, I logged out. Do you guys, 'cause it's done different now, do you have to go to the station and check all your stuff in? At the end of the day, you're handing her activity all that, 100th. You do that every night? Yeah. Not sometimes you don't go to a buddy here, turn this in, I don't want home. Yeah, and then the tenants clear us and say you guys could go home. Okay, so you didn't, and what, do they make you wait till straight up to, or do they cut you into the food? The majority of the time, sometimes it's just up to the supervisor. Okay. The majority of the time. And then you left. Right, that, yeah. And then I headed up 50th, going northbound. How'd you get to 50th, just down prospect? Bring Link Station, take a ride to go north, off prospect, take a left, go westbound on 50th. And then pick her up at Lincoln. About there, east to the east, when we're sawing. Any other traffic out there? No, that was the only car. What about during the time that you had her stop for like 15 minutes? Was there a lot of traffic going by, was there any traffic going by? I think there was a lot of cars I could see as far as coming going west towards our direction and what not. But nothing like real crazy driving by us all the time. What's the power? Hang for a minute. Let us power while. I'm going to show it to you. Let's sit in. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm just going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I don't know if this shirt is going to be big enough for you here. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. [BLANK_AUDIO]