Great friend and the host of (maybe) the most reasonable podcast on the entire internet, "Matt D'Elia is Confused," Matt D'Elia himself joins for the first Reasonable Conversation.

We discuss:

How to be reasonable with someone who is telling you about how to get rid of sexually transmitted demons

How the pundits at the extremes dictate the terms of the conversation and create the “other side” narrative for people who don’t listen to the other side

Moral blame for going outside during coronavirus

Lockdowns in cities vs rural areas

Whether we should be comfortable with 'nationalizing' issues, lockdowns, etc... while also being uncomfortable with giving someone like Donald Trump that amount of control

How bad faith breeds bad faith

Donald Trump as a symptom vs a cause

How the business model is outrage

The morality of the shutdown and the interplay of the economy with health concerns

Whether our public officials have the courage to make moves that subject them to downside responsibility

How the coronavirus shutdown will affect the movie business

And how Matt is spending his lockdown

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