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I'm Ben Mandelker from bsideblog.com and the Bander Blender podcast and joining me as always is the lovable, the huggable, the always wonderful Ronnie Caron from trashharktv.com. Hi Ronnie. Hello, Ben! Oh, hello, Rondol. How's it going over there? Love you. I'm good. We just did a really fun bonus and I'm back at couch desk today, so I'm like in the corner part of this sectional, so I've got things to lean on, things to put my feet on. It's a great day. It's great. Yeah, I'm broadcasting today from New York at my parents' place because Passova's coming up this weekend, and so I thought I would get at least the autumn, my west chest rectivities. I'm a little candid and a little east coast, yeah, exactly, and so those activities include not going to Starbucks, yeah, coffee for this podcast because there are no Starbucks to get coffee for this podcast. I should have gone to dung the dung us. Gonna change it up, sometimes I have to do this with coffee and then sometimes I just can't get it. That's what I do. I'm a pro, okay, baby? Let me tell you something. This town is not owning it, baby, when it comes to Starbucks because no one is drinking Starbucks around here, but I could have gone to Dunkin' Donuts and gotten some coffee and I should have, but I budgeted my time incorrectly. I had to go feed my brother's cat, and here we are. I love it. This is the story. I love a hectic story like that. That's what this is. I'm like, how was your day? I drove somewhere and then, oh my god, the parking there was crazy. Can you believe they took out the flowers in front of the store and put cement? Why would they do that? Why? That's what I am. I come to, whenever I come to New York, it's actually more work because I get work to do. But things assign to me, got a feed my brother's cat half an hour away, and then I got to do random things. I got to help out with the randomness for him or that, and then you got to visit friends. You're driving around doing all this stuff. It's more stressful to go home for a week on a "minnie vacation" than it is to just hang out in LA. Yeah, and I don't ever go on vacation. I only go home. That's my vacation, and so I go twice a year, and I started thinking that recently, too. It's like, what the hell? It's like, I have a list of shit to do for everybody. Well, not even to do, but just like, see this person and then do that, and then I'm hiding in my mom's bedroom while she's playing Canasta so I can watch a housewives sitting on the floor so I don't mess up her bed watching housewives. I'm like, fuck this. My parents asked me once why I isolate myself from the family, and I was like, because I want to isolate myself from the family from the mom. Jesus. I love my family, but you know, they definitely keep on a lot of stuff when I get into town. But then they also feed me, so you know what, I also love that, too. But we're non-married people, so that whole grind of family, we're not used to it because we get to lead selfish lives and just do what we want to do. Exactly. What we need to do. And we're totally spoiled. I mean, we really are. We are totally... This is my goal. I just broke my own fairy tale. Like, Ziggy Flicker. Yeah, 'cause every time I start to complain about like, "Ugh, I come home and next thing I gotta move a chair for my dad," and it's like, "Well, you know, like, think of all the things my parents do for me and like, okay, I can move a chair." Oh, I just have to get over myself. I can think about that. Yeah, when I'm there, I'm like, "I'm not gonna break down, do what they say, and then you go home in a week and you can be back in your bubble, you know?" So I do it. I just... And I love being around them. I'm just, you know, I'm a shut-in. Yeah. Yeah. I just want to go back to LA and be in the confines of whatever I'm confined right over there. Yeah. Just my apartment. I just want to be on my couch with my giant TV, five feet from my face, and food I like, and then I can go outside and smoke without people giving me shit, and I have to ask people stuff. Oh, solitary life. You know what I miss? I miss... I miss no-ho at this moment. I miss being able to walk out the door and across the street and getting a nice coffee, as opposed to here. I have to like, get in the car, then drive down the driveway, then I cry down the road, down to 1.30 yay. If I go to the supermarket... If you go to the supermarket, it took going home to realize how much you love no-ho. It's like the love story between you and North Hollywood. Oh, I've really, really missed no-ho right now. Miss it so badly. Well, we need to do this show. Let's get on with this show. Yes. Let's get on with it. So, come visit us at watchercraphens.com. You'll find links to all our social media. If you go to Facebook.com/watchercraphens, you can join in on the conversation. If you like that page, great stuff goes up there. A lot of links and articles and just random photos and in-jokes and stuff. It's a really great way to round out the watchercraphens experience. And of course, if you are so inclined, feel free to support us on patreon.com/watchercraphens. We try to give back to our supporters as best we can. That includes a bonus episode. This week's we just recorded and we talked about going to Coachella. I talked a little bit about how I went to Toronto this weekend as well. We talked about it. Ben and I went to Coachella in a fat burger truck. We did. We did hear all about it. Hear all about our Coachella trip on the bonus episode. We've got the famous people. Things happened. There's a hologram story. So then... There's a ramp love story, okay? A love story between somebody in a ramp. Yeah. We also finally decidedly discovered who Countess Luan sounds like. We found the voice of Countess Luan and you will never guess who it is. Oh, and also we discussed the new Real Housewives of New Jersey cast member C Flickr. So go to listen to that bonus episode because it's really fun. And then there's other stuff that you get. Such as the crap and mailbag. You can submit to that, which we will get to in just a moment, but before we do that, we do have a little bit of business, okay? First of all, our premium subscriber, Christy Daugherty. We love you, Christy. Thank you for supporting us. Christy! We love you, Christy! Second of all, now that Vanderpump Rules has wrapped for the season, you may think that's it. But we are very happy to announce that we have some of the cast members here on this podcast right now. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome our special guests, Chris and Judy. Oh, hey, guys, like, before I tell, before I tell Diana to like suck a dick or eat a dick or whatever, like, I want to tell you tonight's specials, like Lulu, happy birthday. Okay, bitch, there I said it, okay. Lulu, you're such a basic bitch. I can't believe it's your birthday. Your sister Emily B was like, oh, wish happy birthday to my sister Lulu. And I'm like, Lulu, who the fuck is Lulu, you basic bitch whore? Lulu, it's your birthday. And I want you to like, not being alcohol like today. I can't use Lulu, have five drinks, but not like any tequila. I can't marry you unless you're the Lulu that I wake up with. You know what I'm at? I think that Lulu is going to have one of all the prime cocktails. Who does that? Happy birthday, Lulu. Happy birthday, Lulu. Darling, be nice to Lulu. Be nice to Lulu. That was from your sister Emily B. So happy birthday, Lulu. Hope you're having a great birthday time. And in case no one has sent Lulu any flowers, don't worry. We can fix that. Can we not, Ronnie? God, Lulu's birthday is today. Mother's Day is May 8th right now. Yeah. It seems like it was just Mother's Day, you know? It does. Or it feels like it was just Lulu's birthday at the very least. Yes. It still feels like it's Lulu's birthday, seriously? It's Lulu's motherfucking birthday, OK? And I know that you feel like you don't have enough time because you're listening to this probably at a different time to war recording and you're like, how do I order Lulu flowers? But there is still time to order her the best flowers of her life from theBokes.com Boaks. B-O-U-Q-S. Yeah, like B-K, but without the other part of it. Books. Books. Books. Like for the Books. I can't believe you mispronounced Books around Lulu's birthday. That's so Bo's why. It's a mukai. How do you say it? What is this? The book? The back? The book? I don't know the words. Here's what you need to know, everyone, about the Books. 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Even a delivery is absolutely free when you register with the Books. Listeners of our shows save 20% off the bouquet of your choice. Go to bits.com and enter promo code, watch. That's B-O-U-Q-S dot com, promo code, watch bits dot com, promo code, watch, dammit. Ronnie was taking the audience by the shoulders and shaking them. Bills dot com slash watch, you hear a lot of ads, okay? But this is important. This is your mother. Psh, psh, psh, psh. That's the sound of Ronnie slapping the audience several times, get your mama a flower or get your dad a flower. How about that? Got everyone flowers. One thing that mothers and Ronnie's have in common, we love getting things in the mail. Ben, is the mailman been by lately? Oh, you know what? She has the mailman, the mailman has been around lately. And guess what? I'm going to do another dose of Crapin's mailbag, which was, yay, yay. This podcast ever, it's so person, it's so person, hmm, well, you told every, that mail was so person, like, white people just like put it in your mailbox, but like persons, we go on the internet, like, that's crazy. We don't call it email, we call it P-mail, like Persian mail, they're awesome. We've literally had the internet for 50,000 years, so we go all out for the internet. Shut up. We call on. We haven't gotten this out yet. Payback. Okay, so the first one, oh, I'm doing a little bit of housekeeping here on my computer, typing something down part one, because we had to stop recording for a second before. Housekeeping. Okay, guys. Okay, so Betsy MD, I got it, I got it, Betsy MD, just a comment that I'm reminded of now with Real House of New York in full swing. Your carol voice reminds me of the hissing sound that the lizard-like sleestacks make on the land of the lost. Come to think of it, she kind of looks like one too. Uh, it's just that I feel kind of lost because I've only got five summers left and I see all these other people like in Bikini, ready to be in Bikini's for like 20 years, so baaah. Um, Oliver Haskins says, asks, what do you think was the elevator pitch for Kyle's Nick at Night sitcom? Um, I think it's actually for TV lyre-owned. Uh, I have trouble imagining a silly family sitcom about growing up with Big Cathy as a mama rose type character. So I keep envisioning him up at baby's version of the housewives. That's kind of funny. Um, Richard's babies. Sorry. Go on. Richard's babies. One, they can't understand what's wrong with her. She keeps like bumping her head into a wall, like, you know, drinking things from under the sink. Um, I'm like, uses to wear clothes for own size. I'm just imagining Kim Richards at Rolf's little piano, his little toy piano, just like playing and shaking her head. Like, you guys are putting music on with this, right? I was just hitting the classic keys. I'm just imagining Rina as animal, although I guess Rina would not be the family's story, but I still imagine Rina coming in as animal. Rina, every time Kim gets in trouble in school, you see Rina's head pop up from the window. I was like, I'm telling you, you better own it, Missy. That's right. I'm watching you, Kim Richards. Should be called own at mole, he's an animal. I'm here to, I'm here to make sure Kim Richards holds herself accountable. Okay. So I'm here, the neighbor from next door needs to rent a baby. All this time I thought Nana was manipulating me, but it was Kim Richards, baby. And she's just the nosy neighbor from next door in every sitcom coming over. Oh, god. Lisa, Lisa, Rina's here again. Amelia, go hide upstairs. Who'd be, who'd be Gonzo? The Muppets? No. He's not. Kind of. No, you're not. No, he's, no, he has more like a, like a, a thin voice, right? I kind of go, he kind of speaks more like that. No, I can only do that sticky flick of voice. Yeah, you're doing the voice you're doing is more like, try to think, who is that? You're sort of in the animal place. That's Kermit. You're Kermit. You're sort of in the scooter, scooter area. Um, yeah. So okay, then you do Gonzo. I feel like Gonzo's Carlton or something, like, it's Carlton. I can just imagine Carlton's looking around, you know, sort of in a frenzy, you know, at the end of the opening credits, the end of opening credits, her diamond explodes in her face. Oh, my God. I mean, I think Yolanda is obviously Nana or Nanny, whatever her name was. No, she's coming in like, would you please keep it down in here? I'm trying to rest like the one who ruins all. Well, Brandy's obviously beaker. Brandy's beaker. Isn't beaker those? Oh, yeah. Breakers and me, me, me one. Who's the one scooter is the one who takes? No, doctor. What's no? Who has beaker with? Dr. Bunson. Dr. Bunson. That's probably like, that's the Yolanda. No, that's the Swedish chef. Oh, I got the doctor in the doctor. Yeah. Dr. Bunson is probably like, Dana, 25,000 then everything explodes. Yeah, because Dan and Brandy came on at the same time. They were like the two guests, the friends of that season and Brandy survived. Yeah, Beverly Hills really does have some odd additions to the cast that they only use once or twice. Yeah. They have a lot of one season wonders on that one. I feel like Lisa Vanderpump is Miss Piggy for sure. And I don't know who, I don't know who Joyce would be. Joyce would be, I guess she'd be closest to Janice because she's like, hey, you know, I'm Miss America, you know, like just her mouth kind of always open and smiley. Well, who's Robin? Fair back. Is Kyle Robin? What's Robin? I'm not Robin. I mean, I meant Kermit. Robin is Kermit's like little like, okay. Kermit would be, I don't know, Kermit's too nice. I don't even think you could match anybody up to Kermit. He's just too nice to even be a housewife. Is Kermit like Andy Cohen? Yeah, he's Andy Cohen. He's like, so big, so it's piggy. What about those new boobs, huh? Why are there so many new boobs on the couches? Why are there so many songs about fucks? I don't care if next in the bag. Let's see. We'll ask Betsy's second question on Thursday. Okay. Lauren Grabowski says, "Hi guys, are either of you watching Survivor this year? I'd love to know your thoughts on the season so far, who you're rooting for and what you thought about last week's Tribal with the mega idol said in a Liza voice. Thanks guys. I realized." The season's good. I think it's a solid middle of the pack season of Survivor. I think it's been heating up lately. There've been some really good Tribal councils. Some people thought last week's episode was the best of the season. I liked the one two weeks prior. There's good gameplay, but the two, they're like two villains, Jason and Scott, and they're just awful. I just can't stand them. My favorite on the cast, here comes a spoiler alert, you have five seconds before I announce who got voted off this week to one. Debi. Lease of them to pump. Lease of them to pump. All right. I'm just the victim. Just vote me off to Survivor. Liza, you're not even on Survivor. Oh, don't you get in tell me what I'm not. I never said I wasn't on Survivor. I've never been to a Tribal before. These people are monsters. But Debi, I like Debi and her cookiness, but she's gone now, so I think I'm rooting for Aubrey. You're not watching it, though, Ronnie, are you? I am not. Not watching it. That's bad. It's too much. It's all the time. It never stops. It's like, hey, what's on TV? Survivor. It's on two times a year. Too much. Go away. You're making me nervous. Like, all that not eating. It's so good. People beat me to each other in the heat. It's so good, although this season was a little rough because basically a lot of people got injured and really gross disturbing ways. So there's that. Survivor's still so good, so good to me. Well, those shows kind of have started pissing me off because they have less real people. And I guess Survivor is one that still does have a lot of real people, so I'm kind of killing my own point. Like Big Brother. By the end of Big Brother, I couldn't even anymore because it was just, you know, people who wanted to be on reality shows. Right. Well, I'm still going to watch Big Brother, too. Well, I am, too. Good. We'll probably talk about a lot in the bonus episodes this summer. Yeah. That's when I'm committed. I've been back in like two months. So Dan Yell, Riley, Riley, see now, Riley. Hey guys, I just have a request. I would absolutely love it if you could make a ringtone from last Tuesday's podcast when Ronnie said it's a little plano in here, including Ronnie's whole laugh. I would be eternally grateful. I absolutely love you guys. You keep me laughing. Your podcasts and ringtones make my life more bearable. Thank you. Thank you. It's done. We'll do it. We'll have it up for the first one next month. Yeah. Cool. Dad. Cool. We'll ask the rest of the questions. We'll get to the rest of the questions on Thursday. Yeah. Could you pass me through? So what you want to talk about today, we can talk about anything. You want to talk about the fight between Hillary and Bernie? No. You want to talk about the possible earthquake to hit the zeeza last week? No. Okay. You want to talk about the Bible? No, it's here. No. I'm always here to introduce you to Jesus. Okay. I'm a friend of a friend. I'm playing my own improv game of no but instead of yes and as you have to. Okay. So what do you want to talk about first then? Do you want to talk about Dallas first? We'll talk about Dallas. Yes. Sure. I don't even care what order we talk about it as long as we do because that shit's killing me. It is hilarious. I was a little concerned this episode because I was like, well, I know this season premiere. They got to put the good stuff in there. So that's like way more entertaining. I was like this. Okay. This one's a little slower. But by the end of the episode, I was still cracking up. Yes. The thing that I mostly hate about the new housewives shows in general is when they're trying too hard and like making up story lines and stuff like that because it takes a while for them to really become themselves. On this one, maybe they're doing that a little like there's the girl who's like, I'll poop everywhere. Whatever. I say poop. You know, that's her thing is like putting poop everywhere. She talks about it 20 times. Yeah. And I get that she's trying too hard, but it's still just funny and they're really showing themselves to be more and more monstrous every episode so far too. Yeah. But still it's wonderful. So it begins with like a montage of like what all the housewives are up to at this moment. And we saw Leanne trying to get her dog to eat or roll over or do something. And the dog was just like not having I was like, wow, even the dogs are like not having Leanne. She's just that repulsive to them too. You want to see. Oh, but I guess you don't want to think so. Well, all right. That's fine. That's how you are, isn't it? That's how you are. This dog. You don't want a cheese stick. Okay. I get it. Mama gets it. You know, in society, you always take a cheese stick when it's offered to you. That's all right. People are going to be ready for the charity circuit, but not right now, Mr. Now, go to your house. I volunteered to get you this cheese stick. So what do you do? Some people get these little chewy sticks with their billions and billions of dollars they use their boobies to acquire, but myself, I don't, I work and then I go get those cheese sticks by myself at Target and I give them to my dog and that is how I do it. So then Brandy, who's the redhead, she goes to Marie's house. Marie is the, is the friend of Leanne. She's the one who's like the tall, wealthy, scared friend. I wrote Brandy, a super tall, scared friend. No, Marie is the super tall. Yeah, that's what I'm, I actually went to like the super tall. Yeah, she's super tall and scared. She's like a character out of like Coraline or something. So she, so Brandy, because she's a former Dallas cheerleader, goes over and I liked how she, she told us about how she taught herself how to become a cheerleader. She's like, I went to the tallest hill I could find and fling myself down it and just like roll down the hill until finally one day I could do a backflip. I was like, what? One day I jumped right off the top of a second rebuilding just so I could land on my neck and fancy enough to tung my own coloring hole. I don't care what nobody thinks. She's like the dumb, the dumb hick version of Erica. I know she really is. So, so then there after like the little teaching session, then there's the, the women start talking about Marie's like, I would, I love your art form, but I would appreciate it if you didn't turn my daughter into a whore. Thanks for coming over. She's like, here's how to cheer lead. Oh, we girls so excited. Marie is like my look of fear now has two different dimensions. And you just saw that little kid's face light up like, wow, here's how to make one beat go further than the others. Yeah, wow mom. So then afterwards the women are like sitting down because it's, it's brandy and also the other girl Stephanie and Marie, Marie's defending land. She's like, you know, there are like two liens, there's the one in public, the one private and I like both of them and the one at home, she's really fun. She's really sweet. So fun. I wish you could see her. She looks so scared. She's like, oh my God. If I don't say something nice about Liam on camera, she's going to slit my neck and she does it in the best Texas way ever. Well, she's a little different, but you know, both of the sides of her are just wonderful side and I hope that there comes a time when both of you, because you're both so funny and I hope that there's one day when you can laugh at her and she laughs at you and then you say, wow, there's a positive side of that person. Both of you say that. Let's hug. Shut up, Marie. Marie is like, please don't break anything in my house, basically. This scared fragile woman. And then then we go over to Carrie, who is this like the surgeon's assistant and this is a big scene in Dallas history, by the way, because Carrie is automatically as awful as you could ever hope in the scene. Oh, yeah. She just totally comes through in this scene. God bless you. Well done, girl. I know. Her, her, her like big moment of like humanism is that she, she like burns her finger on like a toast rubbing. She's like, I touch this part, not, not supposed to touch that part. How funny is that? I'm like, lady, you working in OR, you should not be broadcasting this to America. I don't know what to touch the toast rubbing turns out. That's a hot thing. I don't know male got hot too. I thought it was just my English muffin. We have a charity to raise money for all the breasts that we've ruined by accidentally putting toasters inside things, but you know what, I'm sorry, I just don't know how to do it. Okay. Oh my God. And I love Carrie's daughter, who came in, Zuri, she like had these sunglasses on. She looked like a swanky old lady from the Upper East Side. She just, I expected her to start bossing everyone around. Yes. So it's like a baby sewn you to me. Yeah. Exactly. That's a good thing. This is where this chick just becomes terrible. She's telling us about her husband, who her husband's a doctor and he's so in love with her. He looks both terrified, but then when she's trying to be nice to him, he's like, like, he gets so honestly happy and giggly. And then Carrie starts talking about her life and how she met her husband. And she's like, well, you know, this is pictures of me used to be a big fat idiot with ketchup on his shirt. Smelled like burps. But then he came across me and lost 80 pounds. You'd lose the weight too. If you wanted some of this and then so this whole thing, we get this whole fat shame angle from Carrie. And of course loved it, recognized it, saw it, hugged it, loved it. Yeah. Exactly. If there's any question about whether or not she married for money, she answered it right there. She's like, well, he was ugly as fuck, but aside, he had money. So I could just, you know, make him lose the light. And then now we have sex. Now, I'm going to think about it. It's just about comfort. Would you want to fuck a sack of coins or a stack of hundreds? Same amount of money. So then we go to Leanne, I believe, who is just there squawking as usual about how she's risen in society. She's like, I lived here for 16 years and no one knew who I was. But then I made the cover of Carne magazine and I'm a celebrity. I was just a little girl who learned to bob for apples before she learned to do the Roger Rabbit. It wasn't just handed to me. Here I am. I am working. To be fair, I also know how to bob for rabbits. I bob for a rabbit named Roger one time. I swear to you, that thing figured out the mystery of my life. That's when I left the carnival. They said do the Roger Rabbit. I thought they said do the Bob for rabbits. I was like, okay, all Bob for rabbits, put all the hairs in there. Okay. How I met my husband, thank God I didn't know what they were talking about. He hates dancing. Why do I have this written down? You honestly don't know. Apple juice or Lache, good talk. What does that mean? I have no idea. Oh, this is Carrie the Fat Shamer. I'm sorry. I'm back on accent. I'm sorry. Another obnoxious thing is she's like, well, my baby is going to know 20 languages. Right now he's learning French, Spanish, Italian and Jewish. You know, just ever in case you go to like a resort, somewhere in Libya or whatever. Like this woman, I don't even know what it was because that's all I wrote down, but she's telling the baby. She's like, would you like some aqua or some water or some Lache, the baby just looks at her like shut up. She's like, good talk. Yeah, I'm horrible. I'm like, lady, you don't know how to use a toaster oven. You're not going to teach her four languages. So sorry for rewinding. Now, Leanne is this event coming up. It's like the Mad Hatter's something or another, which is, you know, Dallas society goes and we're crazy hats. And so it's the biggest event in Dallas. Society. Okay. I mean, look at my hat from last year and they show it is this huge bush of like paper flowers or something. It looks crappy. It's crazy. It hangs. And when it hangs on its thing, it looks like a giant flowery vagina. It does. It was like a big vagina. Oh, God. I wish I could see that now. I can't unsee that. And I can't unsee that hat in general now. Damn it. Yeah. Well, guess you won best guess you won last year for best botanicals. Yeah, she was so excited. And then she starts talking about how this year is just it's like the theme is like springtime in Paris. You know, you think April and Paris and it's just, it's just, she's like, you know, I really don't know. I've never been out of my car any circle. I really don't even know what Paris is. I'll tell you what, April and Paris is hot. The carnival stopped there one time. That is a part of Texas. Nobody needs to sing. Am I right? Yeah. I'm on the air conditioner on my head, April and Paris. You know what's hilarious is that I did a Google search on Leanne and she's from a place called, like, I think it's called Pasadena, Texas. I'm like, yeah, that seems to make sense. Like she's not even from like real Pasadena. She's like from, you know, fake, fancy Pasadena in Texas. That's so Texas though. They're like Paris, Texas, same as, you know, it's just like tricking to stupid people in a moving there. Yeah. I mean, we drove to Paris. I don't know what y'all are talking about with your long fancy airline flats. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. She, when she started, she's going over it with these guys who were designing it and she pulled a lewam. She's like, these guys, these designers, people know about me in my hands. Because of the best botanicals when, and now people just want to do things for free. Because it is great publicity, having me walk around in your hand. Right. Chanel, Paris, April, Paris, Chanel, I was like, okay, they're going to glue shit onto a hat. Yeah. Thanks for talking about it. She is, she is the biggest freeloader. I mean, this is an ongoing thing with her and, you know, normally I would be like rooting for her, be like, yeah, yeah, you work the system, but she is so high and mighty about society, this society, that lady. You are making Alex McCord look like the establishment, okay. You have to stop. At the end of the day, society is basically saying, that's the crazy lady in the trailer park with two gigantic hats that cost more than a house. She didn't even understand our passive aggressive award we gave her last year for her hat. Best hat. It was in quotations, best botanicals. So the giggled twins are up next, Stephanie and Brandy, these girls, so one is the red head devil. Yeah. And the other is just her shits during friend who is getting scared. Can you exactly say one talks like that, and then one talks like this. Stephanie is getting a good, you can see Stephanie is getting afraid. Stephanie is like, oh, you're putting a plunger on your hat. Oh, oh, we're still going to do. I thought you were just joking, but you can do this. Okay. Okay. Well, I want to do something on my hat where people look at my hat and they say, that girl doesn't care. I'm going to put people on there because then I love poop, you know, and then some people don't like poop and I'm like, but, you know, poop is something we all do. And if you don't like your own poop, then you can handle your own poop. You know what I mean? So people in my head, those literally this whole scene. Yeah. That's pretty much who it was. And then her friend's like, yeah, you should do it because I know I was trying. I wrote it down last week and then I couldn't do it on the podcast, but it is that they're saying? Yeah. See, I can. I got dolphin gas. I remember it. Yeah. But it's something like, uh, now I'm just making myself cough. And they are, uh, so then it gets dramatic and this part is another thing, another scene that would take years on a regular housewife where the best friends are already, they're like giggling, giggling, giggling. And she's like, well, I'm wanting to know that I, you know, after that whole fight with Leanne at the party, I just wanted to be honest with you. Are you ready? Are you sitting down? I sit in the email to her and Brandi's like, yeah, look, she's reaching into her back poop. Yeah. Yes. I'm pooping on your chair right now. I dare you to say something about it. Um, so she's like, I wrote her this email and basically she just wrote her an email saying, well, I'm, you know, I'm sorry my friend was so mean, please invite me to your party again. Love. Whatever. Do you really need to write a very dramatic moment of staring each other down. And then Brandi was like, well, okay. The end. She's like, don't love yourself anymore. So then we go over to Johnny Resnick of the Google dolls, uh, talking about and disseminating cows in front of Tiffany, uh, at Leanne's house. At Leanne's house. Yeah. That's so, so they're like, barbecuing of the hill, wasn't it? Soking of the hill. And he's like, even opened by talking about propane. Yeah. And he's like, you know, back when all's on, I was like, how, how far I'm growing up in Australia, I had to get a stick mile, I'd stick one 50 in the cows bum and stick another one in with a pipe and then get the semen going until get that cow going and get stirred up. So that way I'd have a little baby sometime in a few months later. That's like, I had to do in some of my cows. Real disgusting. And then the cop is like, well, one time I once had to dance. They said I won best legs and I had to dance on a table. It was embarrassing. He's like, don't hear me talking about putting both of my arms up a steer, mate. I'm like, are you really going to follow up and submitting a cow with the fact that you won best legs? That's like supposed to like one up everything. Everything that came out of everybody's mouth went up the last thing because it started with a honey propane. My husband likes his steak bloody. He likes it like roadkill. And he's like, well, speaking of steak, I shook my arms up a cow. And then the other one's like, well, speaking of cows, how did you know when you were putting your arm in it, if you were putting it in the butt or the vagina, I mean, how did you even know? Like really, Leanne, you don't know the difference between a button of a giant, even on a cow. Oh my God, lady. Well, in society, one doesn't ask a cow before it penetrates a cow. Yeah. And then someone who said this, I think the boyfriend was like, yeah, it's too warm. So what you did this morning, darling, that's nothing. So what the hell now they're making arming each other jokes? Is that a thing? Fisting. You fisted her. Is that a Texas white thing? It's just a question. It's just a question. It's a question. It's a question that we'll get to that later. So I think it was Leanne talking about getting fisted, right, I think it was Tiffany. I don't even remember. I remember either. Maybe it was Leanne. I don't know. So back then we get followed the rockers home again. Yeah. And he wants to earn, he wants to make five more albums. He wants to make five more albums. I'm like, what are these like photo albums, like you're in Dallas. You have what is your plan here, sir? Nothing says rock and roll like sitting down with a white plate of cut berries. Fuck. I know. Seriously, in your rental home, is there no cocaine on your block? Like, what are you doing? This is not rock and roll. Please let something up. Flat iron here from 1998, a poor guy is over tanning. You can tell how stressed he is because he's already turning like that weird state of almost brown orange. Yeah. Yeah. He's in his face. So then, of course, Tiffany's like, man, back being a model, I'll tell you, that sure was different. Models in LA, endless parties, cocaine, don't even get me started on the Playboy mansion. Yeah. That's just basically like her entire storyline is don't get me started on the cocaine that I did. Don't get me started on all the money I blew up my nose. Don't get me started. She's trying to do that innocent, get them on the offense because I think she's the one that there's, I mean, obviously, she's going to be the one that there have been stories coming out and all the blogs that she was a porn person or like a, you know, some kind of either soft corn or some kind of porn, you know, like I've got a grammar kind of porn. Mm hmm. I believe that 100 percent. So she's getting out in front of it, which ain't the first time is the goal, but she's getting out in front of it. She's like, oh, yeah, back then. I was just on so much cocaine, whoo hoo, whoo, I wish I could explain to you all the things I did on that cocaine, but how well you'll read it in a blog, let's move on. Let's buy a mansion. Yeah, so she wants to buy a house and he looks like he wants to run, but of course he doesn't know how to get around town. So he's stuck there. Yeah. He looks miserable. I mean, the thing is that Dallas is probably the best thing for him because he will maybe like, I feel like if he's in LA, he will hold on to the dream of staying young a little bit longer, whereas in Dallas, he'll eventually get rid of the flat ironed highlighted, stripey hair and like a man, he's never been to Dallas. Well, I figure he might just get a cowboy hat. No, no, no, no, he'll get, if he does, he'll get one of those cowboy hats like that Madonna let the gay people wear for that, you know, music video. Oh, yeah. The gay hat. Yeah. The gay straw hat. Look at that. That would be an improvement. The improvement of Keith Urban. Well, plus his heart, you know, at first, I thought he's after this. Rich woman and this and that, but she's really not he was. She thought he was rich and he thought she was rich and now they're both realizing that nobody's rich. They're like, Oh my God. What are we going to do? Let's not talk about our fucking schedule this week. Let's talk about who's going to go to work. Like, what do we do? Yeah. He's like, don't worry. I'll move to Dallas where her parents will pay for everything. He's like, Oh, yeah, well, no, why is her was a mom still calling me. Oh, no, we're going to come back into our life. So then, meanwhile, in Brandy's world, her daughters are tired, her mom's coming over for her birthday. Her mom is 15 when she had her all that fun stuff. Yeah. All that fun kind of stereotypical stuff, like, Oh, wow, shocked. The girl that needs to get attention streaming poop. But she went into this whole thing about like happy birthday, momma. I love you. Enjoy your peep. Remember how we all peep? Remember when I say you be, you're the best teenage pregnant mother poop and she's like, I say, what's that scooter? Has anyone seen my husband? Anyone seen my husband, by the way? Oh, yeah. There's a lot of absentee dabs on this. Oh, yeah. It's absentee. But Brandy's got it bad. Because at least Stephanie's husband is like, Oh, hey, could you destroy this wasp nest for me? Please, thanks. But it was ultimately. Yeah, exactly. There's one man to it. Have you noticed that? Get my brain later. He's basically final destination or like last week, it was like, Hey, can you fix this thing with a garage door opener? And this week, it's like, Hey, can you go by this like violent nest of wasps, please? Hey, could you please fish that plugged in radio out of the pool for me? Hey, any chance you could spruce up your knife juggling act? Thanks. Hey, stand in front of the garage door and press close and make sure that it closes. Okay, I just need to make sure that little sensor is working properly. Do me a favor. Can you test all the seat belts on the roller coaster nearby? Thanks. I think I left a spoon in the garbage disposal. Hey, I'm concerned about the elevator seems to be stopping between floors. Could you see how long it takes to jump out of the elevator into the new floor before it falls down? Thanks. I was really worried the other day because I thought, Oh my God, I don't think my car is up to safety standards. Could you crawl in the trunk and make sure that when the door is closed, you can still pull a latch to get out on the picture before I get home? Hey, I was wondering, you know, you seem to be taking a long time to cleaning the bathrooms and stuff. Why don't you just, you know, why don't you just do everything all at once? Maybe just do the ammonia and the bleach all at once. He's like, Hey, honey, I put a pregnancy test in the bug zapper. Would you mind sitting on that? Hey, the band saw has been acting kind of strange. Can you see if it's still sharp, does it need to be sharpened? Hang on, the hand saw is feeling a little lonely. Would you go shake his hand? It's happening. Just want to make sure all my ducks are in a row. Hey, honey, you know, you're taking so long and getting ready. Watch this, you know, do your hair in the bathtub. Poor thing, poor girl, girl who laughs funny, I got to get her laugh. I know, me too, I keep on, I try it and then I forget it by the time we get to this. So this basic, the rest of the, Oh, wait, we're on carry now. What are we talking about? Where does she do? Nothing. We can just go right to the mat hatters. Lunch night. Okay. Yeah, let's just go to the lunching. So I think it was just glue gunning more poop on the thing. Yeah. It was made. Yeah, that's right. Brandy just made a crazy hat. She really, it was just a full on like homeless lady trash hat. Yeah. Crazy. It looked like it had lint on it. It was a big old. It was like a mud people ballet concert. Yeah. It was like the pack rat lady from Labyrinth. That was what that hat was. It was insane. There was like moss on it. There were shreds of who knows what fake turds. There was still a homeless guy like on top of it. Yeah. Exactly. I'm raising the baby alone so young just like my momma did that requires the pack. She had little fake dogs on there. It was, you know, so Leanne was already like angry, but I'm like, you know what Leanne, you need to calm down because your hat looks literally like a stack of paint chips. Okay. Like lead paint chips that fell off the window sill. Either that or oyster mushrooms. See, it looked like one of those, um, the top of her head looked like a Vanderpump Rules cast member was trying to make shapes with napkins, you know. She looked like she was trying to, she was trying to balance a stack of Pringles. Audible's best of 2024 picks are here. 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Ladies and gentlemen, oh, I'm going through. I wrote so many notes. I'm basically reading a book trying to get through. I just got the who's who Dallas society. Yeah. Little parrot. Okay. So this show is also amazing to me in episode two because they have the best off camera people. Yes. So the best extras because they're all horrible, like even the extras, they were, they have to cut to her brandy with her poop hat walking by. And someone was like, oh, no, right when she walked in that lady, first of all, he goes, please tell me that you did not do that to yourself. Yeah. I sure did. Well, that is so creative. Get that over to my house, come over to my house and help me, honey. I think it is so adorable. That's what she said. Please tell me you did not do that to yourself. It's adorable. It's adorable. She's like, yeah, my kids met. My kids. Tell me that is adorable. Your trash, little kids, little street urchins, they are. And then another couple, the man goes, I can't believe her husband is letting her do all this. And his wife goes, well, she is an ex, Dallas cheerleader. Yeah. Best extras ever. I think was Leanne who said that about the cheerleading. I think Leanne is like, I thought it was just some, you know, like, husband talking to somebody off in the background. Because this is Leanne's new angle on trying to shame her. She's like, oh, come here cheerleader, oh, is that what the cheerleader did? I'm like, Leanne, you realize like cheerleaders are like really high up on the pecking order in Dallas, even 40 years after high school. Beeler is even standing up for the cheerleader. He's like, well, like, then Leanne still is. I'm just taking pictures of Brandi's hat and noticing pictures of Leanne's hat. And she's just getting angry and angry. She's getting so mad. It was so good. And she's like, this event is a treasure to vent in this city. I'm like, Leanne, there are people wearing replicas of like Rio de Janeiro on their head. Okay. It is nothing sacred. And I love that she's pretending she doesn't even know she's in the room yet. And her friend is like, have you seen her hat? Well, there's that hat. Check is. I saw that hat. And did you see the hat on that lady? Oh, yeah, I saw that one. Did you see the cheerleader of what the cheerleaders here? She has a hat. Oh, I hadn't heard about that. Tell me about that hat. Go ahead. Tell me, honey. Go ahead. Tell me all about that hat. Okay. Detective Leanne. Carney detective. Carney detective. And I'd like how she she kept on like her attempt to sort of like to mock to mock Randy was like this awkward thing, which is like, you know what she did when she walked in here. Bitch slap. I'm here. Bitch slap. I'm here. Bitch slap. I'm here. Okay, Leanne. We got it. Bitch slap. I'm here. Bitch slap. I'm here. Bitch slap. That would be terrible. She really literally was doing that. Leanne is ready to go, but also it's not bugging me that this brand is so ready to go with Leanne either. What did Leanne really do? Like she's a little too angry. Like if you hate somebody that much that you have to like tape shit all over yourself. Yeah, but it was still pretty funny when Brandy made fun of Leanne when she was getting ready. Remember, she's like, Brandy was like, Nancy be like, what's up with that hat? Mm hmm. Sometimes she does the Leanne. I crack up. Her fat Albert. Mm hmm. Look at that hat. Mm hmm. Yeah. I think it's yeah, I think Brandy was like a little over the top like it wasn't it wasn't quite funny enough. It wasn't outrageous enough. It just looked messy, you know. She says poop too much. I'm sick of hearing about poop already. I'm mad at myself for having to poop sometimes now after the show. Well, the best metal of the parallels. Yeah. Because there's a lot of poop talking today's episode because it goes from this to Potomac. It's like now these these shows have defaulted into like poop fights. I know. Seriously. I dropped the poop. The y'all just dropped the poop off the side of my hat onto the floor. You think they're going to notice and it was like, Oh girl, let's put some poop in somebody's chair. I'll do it. I know. Welcome. I love what's in Texas. I loved when Leanne finally had a moment with Brandy and she looked at Brandy's house like that is wonderful. Please Leanne, Leanne, whoa, whoa, Leanne. I work for dog charities and I totally, I want you to know, I sincerely from the bottom of my heart support dogs and they're right to poop, but you know, I just have to say I've never seen a dog poop as artfully as anybody has on your head. I mean, that is amazing. Good for you, honey. I love your pooping and your comedy and the way you mimic a dog poop. So well, you are just a great mimicker. That's just what you are. You can even mimic in dog poop form. That is amazing. I heard that there was someone over here mimicking dog poop. I heard that there was a mimicker, a dog poop mimicker. I love that about you. I see your soul in your comedy famous pile, a dog poop in Dallas. So, you know, if you're going to mimic some dog pee, maybe you'd like to show it to my famous friend dog poop, okay? Just buy some real dog pee, make it a circle. Well, then a turd did actually fall off the hat and it was Carrie who went up and put it on Leanne's seat. And so then Leanne comes by and she gets real mad and she goes, Leanne, first she goes and she titles to like these fancy gays, she's like, she's like, they are the most important people in this party. She showed this guy. It's old Foppish Dandy. He was not even that old. He's probably like 37. And he has his hand on his chest. He gave me this look to brandy like, well, I swear, I have never seen such an event at the Mad House teapot. So furious. What do you tell? She's like, she's tattle-paling. Which he was. She's like, I went up to the most famous gay person I knew and I said, listen here, gay. That girl just did something really bad. She's like, real. She's that. Well, that's it. When you fuck with society, society, fuck you in the back. Whatever. Yeah, Leanne. Well, she goes, she goes, look, I grew up on the carnival. I see people real clear. Like, what does that have to do with anything? Why does like growing up like, what was she saying? People tried to rob me, trick me. Like, isn't that what carnies do? I'm literally describing why I'm afraid of carnies. People trying to throw baseballs at a stack of me to knock me over and my friends. That girl's just trying to get me to throw a ball and try and hit a target so she'll fall in the water and I'll look like the drowner. Ain't gonna happen, Missy. Listen, I'm a carnie. I know, I can tell when someone's raising up a hammer to throw down to make a ball go up in the air and see how strong they are and make a bell go off, I know. Listen, I'm from a carnival. I know when people are about to try and run me over with a bus because I lived on a bus for about 20 years. You don't want to know how many ski balls I've rolled. It's a lot. I know what's in front of behind under and over and inside of that bus, Missy. Don't even try it with me. Okay, so I thought she handled having poop on her seat fairly well or did she tell tell after that? She tatteltailed after that, so she tatteltailed to the connected gay and then that was pretty much it. I'm not sure what she's talking about in the accident. My family down there's thousands of dollars a year to charity and no one's going to tell me what to do with my hat. You go, what a stand to make, your shit hat and who pays for that, who's your family or husband or your mom? I want to know. Exactly. Because as far as we can tell, your mom has been excommunicated from her family. Poor mom. I know. Oh, look. It's the landline at the mantle. Well, there you go. What? Perfect timing. You take the call. Walk in. We'll come back to finish it. Okay. Okay. We're back. The phone call has been handled with my mother. She's coming home in an hour to make halibut. So. That was your mother. Oh my God. Yeah. She's coming home to make dinner. That was business. No, it was my mom, but then, and then I went and got myself a snack because I'm starving. Ooh. Well, I got a snack too, actually. I had a one of those tamale things. Oh, thank you. By the way. Sprouts. Love you. Stop it. Make me so jealous. Should we go on to the Shahza sunset? Let's do it. Wait. Before we do the Shahza sunset, though, I would like to do something. You know what I would like to do? Well, what then? Anything you want. How lucky are you to have me teach you about me? Clear the flame. Clear the flame. Clear the flame. It is time to clear the flame. I don't think we did it last week. So let's see what is going on. We sure did. We did? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, look, it's always full of noodles. I'm still here. How lucky am I to be in a land where noodles are served to you 10 times a day. How lucky are me? No, for me. I don't know what I'm saying. I'm delirious here. Lying in the sun in front of fan and behind air conditioner or how lucky am I? Well, Carolyn Fleming is back from her Asian vacation and she is back to doing her usual things like yoga in the living room, et cetera. Her latest picture from, I believe it may have been earlier today is from nine hours ago is her walking on the street and she says, how gorgeous to be back and enjoy weather like this. Not bad. Exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point, hashtag sunshine in hashtag London, hashtag lorious day, hashtag lucky at the blank hashtag new tote hashtag bag at Deb so off. You are so talented, my darling. Well done. And congratulations with yet another exquisite collection. X space. X. This has been sponsored by the weather channel and purses. I'm always trying to figure out who's paying for these. Like every time she posts one, I'm like, who's paying for this? This one, when you mentioned that she's doing yoga in the living room, but she's doing yoga in a mat on a, you know, on the carpet. And she's holding one of those big hoops looks like a Mario Kart steering wheel. Yes, like a lot of earring, like a Mario Kart steering wheel. And she says, I truly app without you. I would never have worked out today, exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point at Sasha Wauwowski. Thank you for great hashtag Pilates, hashtag session space dash space. The month of pure indulgence is painful. Exclamation time. Push the sex. And then cry face emoji, cry face emoji, no noodle cry face emoji. X space. X. Girl. You have more stretches to do if you shut the fuck up, do your stretches stop typing all these X's. One last one. It's her holding up her own cookbook and smiling at the camera and she goes, just walked in through the door at a very delayed flight and no sleep for 36 hours to this whoop whoop. Next time I hold my new cookbook in my hands, so thrilled and grateful at Lindhard Grinkhoff. Thank you for publishing another wonderful book for me, X space, X space, X hashtag no filter. What's that mean note filter? What did she say that was crazy? She's like, look at me cookbook. Everything I'm holding on the cover is hashtag green onion, hashtag yellow bell pepper hashtag radish hashtag white onion. What is that? What is that? It looks like a candle built a crazy rabbit of vegetable eater whoop whoop. Look at me. How lucky are you to have me whoop it up with you? The rebel of 2016. You want to go to the bathroom and snort some bell peppers with me, darling? Anyway, okay, what's up next? Shaz, let's do Shaz, that's crazy, that's a good person. Mike's big crazy, do you want to go through this scene by scene or just go through the basics? How would you like to do it today? I mean, I take a bunch of notes, but I can do, if you, if you are, let's go, we can do the basics though, I'm, I'm, whatever you wish. Well, I could, I could go either way too. We could just go person by person because we can probably get it all in. It's not like anything groundbreaking happened, but so my basic macrono is only a show this soulless where someone would try to redeem themselves with soulless, I mean, come on. Yeah. So Mike's big thing is that he's announced that he is now making shoes with a guy who looks like Tilda Swinton, he has, he's quote, quote, giving real estate. He is quote, quote, quote, giving real estate a break, like, yes, I'm sure you are giving real estate a break. It was your choice. Yes. I'm sure. Yeah. All those with his face all started just like, you know, when you're closed on, but like to me, what was so obnoxious is that he just spent in an episode, an episode talking about how he spent this much money on that and that much money on that, you know, Tom Ford, uh, Tuxedo and, and the photographer and this net and hundreds of thousands of dollars out of that. And now he's here saying like, Oh, well, you know, I'm still suffering from the 2008 financial crisis. I'm basically still in debt. Yadda, yadda, yadda. I'm like, don't go bragging about like, don't have this excessive wedding. And then you're here stealing straws from the Jamba Juice. Pretty much. Well, that's what he was saying. He's like, look, I've already declared bankruptcy once. I cannot declare bankruptcy after this wedding. I have to do something. Yeah. You only get it one time. I don't know if he declared bankruptcy. I'm just assuming that if he had all that debt and he was still able to have a wedding that something happened. I mean, one of Mike's fiddle flaws is that he can't help but keep up with the Jones. He always, he falls into that so badly and he's just so bad at it. He's really bad at it. And his Joneses are so stupid. Like his Joneses don't even have like a house in a pool on 2.5 kids. They're not like the Joneses, you know. They're people who just like shoes too much. It's stupid. He's a dude. He's like, you know, like, I really want to have like my empire, you know, that's what I'm doing. I'm like building my empire, you know, so I quit real estate for shoes. I'm like, what do you mean? Like you literally quit building an empire right now to sell shoes. Yeah, everything is so misguided. I mean, you could see the fear just dancing along in Jessica's eyes as she's just like, and she's, she finally was speaking some sense. She's like, you know, I had, I had this realization that you and I are really bad with money. Like we're really bad. Like that renaissance in the backyard. We should not have gotten that babe, but it's like things like $400 a target, you know, that's the thing. Like we go buy all this stuff at Target, babe. What are you getting at Target every month? I know. Stupid Jessica is the one who actually buys like the chairs from Target. The shit that costs $5,000 is supposed to be Target. Like Barstool, $175, fuck off your Target, Jessica's buying that shit. Yeah, she certainly is. I think Mike needs to take some lessons from Shervin because Shervin, Shervin is a stand-up guy for now. I say for now because inevitably we'll see how awful he is, but for now he's like successful or at least fake successful and he has a good head on his big manly shoulders. You know, he's like, oh sorry, no, I was going to say he's like, he seems to be the only one who can reason with Gigi who is on a drunken bender right now. Well, they've all been in that situation, but he's the only one that still has patience with it. Everybody's had that talk with Gigi, Gigi, you're just crazy and maybe too drunk and maybe you need to stop trying to stab people at parties and it's just like, yeah, you know, I don't like having just the latest. Yeah. And I love that he's actually announcing it as if he's making some bombshell revelations like, I think that Gigi, I think that, I think that sometimes she crosses the line. I think that's one of her problems. It's like, really? Have you ever seen seasons one through current season, like sometimes she crosses the line? Like, she left the line in the past a long time ago. It's like, I think that maybe she drinks a little bit too much. Yeah. Yeah. You have Periscope serve. And then, and Gigi knows exactly how, you know, she, at this point, she's like a trained monkey. She'll just be like, well, you know, I don't like feeling feelings. It's like, like, she has, she has the exact thing to say. I just get so angry because of her illness, you know, it's like her, her feelings about her illness is this hasn't been going on forever. It's like the new Bravo thing. Everybody's going to have one. And hers isn't fake. So I'm not saying that, but it's still like, my arthritis, man. That's why I want to like kill people, step them in the face. She gets too wasted in the club and she's falling all over and about to fuck some douche bag. She's going really badly and serving outside is like, look, I like this crazy Gigi and I also like the, you know, the normal Gigi. I like both the Gigis. And I want you to know that she goes, well, I just want, I just, man, I want for one day. There's one day for you to feel like, what if I can send my buddy, man, just start shaking the police grading. Like she's about to lose it, man. Like, well, what's your heart, arthritis, you don't get it, man. It's like, whoa, I was afraid you would punch me, but, you know, that's out. Just don't kick me. Okay. Well, I think that's an improvement over what she was saying earlier in the club, which was more or less just I need some alcohol, like just needs alcohol. The guy's like, Hey, hey, the guy goes to hit on her, he's like, Hey man, let's do like rock, paper scissors. Okay. If you win, you get to slap me, but if I win, I get to kiss you, she's like, I need some stuff. He's like, whoa. He's like, whoa. He's like, whoa. He's like, go with me. Buy me something. The fuck part of town are we in, man? Yeah. But I think that's Sherman, though, what's good about Sherman is that he's level headed, and he doesn't, he doesn't condescend to women, which is what Adam, I'm not Adam. That's what Mike does. He really, really condescend to women, which is too bad because I think he does have, occasionally, sneakers that like, it's going to make a guy look so cool that he's going to get like some girls and like walk up to him and like give him a blowjob. And he literally says, this is a Mike quote, one day a guy is going to high five me because he got laid because he had some dope sneakers on. Yeah. Mike. Totally. I love Mike. Mike's stupid quotes. And he's telling the guy selling. He's like, yeah, man, because this is a change. And this is where it's everything's going to be different because I need this. And the inside of me is like the inside of the dream of the shoe. You know what I mean, man? Like, why are you trying to sell it? You're paying this person. Okay. What are you trying to sell? It's like when you're trying to be nice to the car dealer, that guy's trying to be nice to you. Yeah, Mike. Exactly. Listen, Mike. Also on Shervin, it's easy for Shervin to have a good perspective because he lives in a beach house. He literally has a good perspective. He's staring at the ocean. He does. By the way, I want to start up a new podcast called on Shervin. It's just thoughts on Shervin. You're the random things. It's like a very serious podcast is academic with life for him to write his own fairy tale. He could hire a fairy tale writer. You know, he just finds his name to it. Just saying. Just Shervin. Just Shervin. I predict that Shervin and his boyfriend are going to become the old gays from Melbourne and her Cheshire, I mean, and they're just going to be causing shit because in this one, it's after the club and everything they sit down with GG, but it's like they're sitting at the beautiful ocean view of his mansion, which I still don't know how he earned, but yeah, his parents, right? It's family money. I'm assuming. Which, either way, you know, money is money, watch out it. But they're sitting there and they're both like, Oh, GG, you know, you just have to take care. Yeah, just calm yourself. Just take care of it. Maybe just say it's like, Oh my God, I love these in the closet. Persian versions of those old queens from Cheshire. I know. You'll be wearing triddle necks. I thought Shervin and his boyfriend were going to be good friends of mine, but they're snacks and gross. Like everyone else. I should know. I should know. I should know that friends of mine don't know what I do with friends of mine. I chop off their heads. And if they're still walking around and put them in bollock lava, you know, even some bollock lava. And that's what you do with friends. That's what it's like. It's just I'm grateful because of arthritis, no one understands until they have it. I'm always yelling at gay boyfriend here whenever it gets called out. So it just says, Oh, it's cold authorized hashtag arthritis, hashtag bell pepper. I can't believe I can't believe that I can't believe that you do talk about arthritis during me daughter's performance. Darby's singing up on stage. She's talking about arthritis. I, I was this close, this close to kicking her out of Darby's performance, but they thought no, she's got arthritis. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Gigi would make as much sense on that show that she does on this one. I know. Like, what are you talking about? You know, for real, for real. Um, so we're going, uh, through piece by, you know, like different pieces at the time. I'm just scrolling through. I just saw MJ and douchebag. Can we please talk about MJ and douchebag? Yeah. We're looking with them in the car somewhere. And they're passing under a, uh, billboard for the TV show Tyrant, which is. Yeah. I noticed that too. Oh my God. Yeah. You know, I have to say, baby, I was kind of in a, in agreement with Asa, who said that he is like this really obnoxious, but like sort of charmingly obnoxious, not that I find him charming, but I kind of like the guy. Is that weird? Yeah. Let's go to your pot. Let's go meet your mom. Yeah. Sounds like a hot bitch to me. Vita. Yeah. You give me Vita Vita. You know, that means life. You're like people, people who I grow up say say that after they get some pussy. Am I right? Vita. Heh. Well, here's the thing. Before they even went to Vita, they took Ziggy, who is Vita's dog. They took Ziggy to get clean and get some like pink dye on it by the way, MJ wore these, these green heels, these bright green gumball heels. Uh, like, I don't know whether to praise MJ's fashion or run for the hills. I, I just don't know, but it was a bad sign because I don't know if you noticed it. They took, they took this little dog to Barking Impalice, which was last seen on Tabitha. I'm driving your own fairy tale fucking MJ, it's up in Barking Impalice. Exactly. Barking Impalice, which was on Tabitha takes over. It was such a dysfunctional dog grooming place. Remember, it was like those two lesbians were running it and they like hated each other. And one was like on a power trip, the dogs were shitting and peeing everywhere. I was like, of course, this is where MJ would take the dog, which is actually kind of genius because it's the most wonderfully passive thing that she could do to her mother's other, other daughter. Oh, yeah. She even said that. She's like, well, it's like my mother's other daughter, but she doesn't call it fat and she's really nice to it and, you know, she doesn't kick it. Yeah. But, you know, thank God for MJ because she was also the voice of reason this episode because Reza invited MJ and Asa over. And once he was done revving them up to hate GG again this season, he was then like, okay, so here's my idea. This is like, it's like so Persian. We're going to go to the Palm Springs just for dinner and to be like, surprise, it's a wedding and like, bitch is going to have a wedding there. And Asa was like, yarez, that's great Reza and MJ is like, yeah, babe, that's a great idea, babe. They go through their whole babe thing, babe, babe, babe, babe, babe and MJ was like, are you crazy? Which is funny because MJ was the one last season who was pushing Reza to have the crazy bachelor party and this time she's like, you are, you are bonkers, like this is Adam's day too. You can't do that. It's so wrong. And it's Asa who goes, yeah, but Reza's the man of the household. I was like, oh, whatever happened to your, what happened to your veil protest in front of the Vegas seafood buffet on Hollywood Boulevard? Well, it's consistent, she said that a veil is a woman's right to express herself and it's like, come on, really, it's not just a veil, but that's used to oppress women. Why are you standing up for that? That's crazy. So surprisingly consistent with her. Yeah, I guess so. She's like, I'm an independent woman, babe, but you know, I do it with my parents' money. So he's like, says the woman who is like, you know, has a burgeoning captain business where when people buy the Caffans, she stuffs them into a priority envelope, like a piece of pill, pill is very farmed out, I don't know what I'm trying to say. Things you have to let it like, deflate first. Yeah, it's like, take it out of the bag. It's like, that's not, if you buy a Caffan for whatever amount of money, you don't want to show up in a priority envelope, like a third rate Etsy expense. Especially when they're probably the same material. Yeah, or not a box, it could just be like a big envelope with the bubble wrap, you know, like just not a priority envelope. I ripped my Caffan thinking it was the envelope. Damn it. Two stars on Amazon. She's like, babe, I don't understand these reviews. So MJ's advice about, I think MJ was right, because I mean, obviously I agree, you can't just land a whole wedding and take away the bride's options on her biggest day of the year or whatever. And I think it was kind of consistent again with her bachelor party stuff, because that was Reza's day. So he can do whatever the fuck he wants at his bachelor party, even though I thought it was gross. I'm just saying it's consistent from a new perspective. Yeah. It's my day, babe, my dad, Adam and Reza, Lordy, what the hell with these two Reza Adam is in that period, which I think is hilarious with men and women when they enter this period where they're like, you know what? Nothing's been about him this whole time. And like, that's not cool. So I'm going to make my voice be heard in the next scene. I'm talking. Oh, look at you. You're talking. Are you done talking now? Yes. Oh, good. You're so in, buddy. Yeah. Good old. I love I love when Tim Gay gets gets a little feisty. What if I don't want to buy a house? Well, first of all, no one's asking you to buy your hat by a house with your island's money, Reza. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I don't even think it's a man versus vagina thing. I think the one who's paying by the house, just by it. Why are you complaining? This is what you're going to take a stand on, not getting a free house. By the way, I want to point out that Tim Gay is so tame that he doesn't even do carrot cake. He's like, no, it's too much. They went into like that shop and he's like, I'm sorry. I don't do carrot cake for one in my mouth, but go to a bath house and everybody knows I will not do that. The only way I'm going to do carrot cake is if you put in some gym shorts and let it walk around. Is that carrot cake in your pants? That's so hard. I wouldn't have carrot. I wouldn't need a carrot cake even if it wasn't wearing underwear. Yeah. Speaking of cake, one thing I thought that was funny was when Asa had everyone over for dinner, they, some of them like made like a little birthday spread for MJ and when they came, they, you know, they lit the candles and everything and as they started to head outside, everyone was gathered outside and it was like, Reza walked out with the cake. He starts, they start seeing a happy birthday and I was like, Oh, here comes a cake and a cameraman just went running away. I don't know if you saw that, but he could see the background. Cameraman's like, Oh shit, I've been in this way before. Shah's sunset cake. I am out of here. He ran so fast on the set of sea world. Yeah. Exactly. Getting away from. Once, once that cake started coming to the, to the porch, he was gone. Can I quit going back to the BBC? Oh, this cake, this show, they immediately start taught this party. I mean, they immediately start talking about each other every time somebody leaves, which is so funny. Yeah. Who went to the kitchen first and they're like, Well, what do you think about that babe? And then someone came back. Well, what do you think about MJ? Well, what do you think of this? What do you think of that? What do you think about Reza's barcode shirt? Oh, Reza. Reza's into some weird patterns. He likes his patterns. My punk hair thing. He likes his patterns. He likes his patterns as much as Asa likes licking some lids. Oh. Awesome. Look at the spread, man. This is how we did it because, you know, when our people came here for my brand in our brand, that's, I mean, that's what my people are like 50, you know, 50,000 years old. So we party, you know, like we know how to do it. Yeah. Okay. You know, the thing is with Asa is that the one thing she's been able to do consistently well from season to season is put out a nice spread and it's strange to me that she keeps on doing all these other ridiculous entrepreneurial things. Why not do a cookbook like that would be a cookbook. I would legitimately, you know, possibly buy it would have, but it would have like some authenticity as a product to be like, Oh, we've seen her made all this beautiful food. She talks about food all the time. She knows the food. She loves to explain it. Why are you not doing a cookbook? I mean, the captains are nice. This is your best idea. Yeah. So far. But the diamond water, the films experimental this and that like, why are you not making a cookbook? Well, it should have like a cookbook with a calf ham inside for you to wear when you gain the weight from all the food. Yeah. Exactly. Right. Yeah. Exactly. Let's see. What else happened? Well, MJ and Tommy, well, so the dog came out by the way, looking all pink and polka dotted, and then MJ and Tommy went to go meet with Vida for dinner. Are they here? I don't see them. Are they here? Yeah, they're over there. She's like, Oh, yeah, T.M.J. Look at you. God. Are you calling me fat? Well, you didn't lose weight. That's for sure. By who? But and then she's a bite of food in the most shady way possible. And then meanwhile, the waitress comes over and you know, you know how you're always saying how waitresses are always trying to get their five seconds of fame on these shows. This waitress could not have been more opposite. She's like, I cannot believe I have to appear on camera in front of these fools. She's like drink water. Okay. Thank you. Bye. If you know Vida was probably mean to her on the way. Oh, yeah. Maybe you bring me glass of water and maybe put your face in it first and clean it so I don't have to look at you to keep. You call this a table? It is not about you waitress. This is about me as a table. Okay, you want to order? I say shut up. You shut up. Okay. That's what I say. This is my order. I love how man she got about the dog when she saw when she saw that ziggy had that crazy pink polka pattern. Oh, God. This is not right. In Persian culture, you give back things in proper condition. This is not a joke. This is an animal. This is my child. This is not joke. This is not my child is not someone to be left it. I'm like really because that's kind of what you make MJ. This is so sad. This is too on the nose psychologically telling you raise a daughter who freezes her dead dog. Okay. This is what you've done. You're not you're not you're not one to talk about proper customs. Thank God for Tommy. I think that if God does watch reality shows, it's this one, he's like send Tommy to Vida declare the Tommy's like, Hey, what's up, Vida? Yeah. What's going on hotcakes? Oh, this is what I'm telling MJ right now. You know, look at you. You look so you don't look so fat, but you eating all the time. You're trying to make her eat all the time too. You've had example for the eating of the MJ, the kid, I like the way she looks. I think she's hot. I'd fuck her right now on the table if I could. She's like, it is not fine. It is not about you. What are you? What are you anyway? You're actually not a ping pong champion. I may not know how to play ping pong, but when I'm when I'm inside your kid, I feel like a thermometer inside a Christmas ham. It's perfect. Oh, you you put in ham, this is terrible. He's not good match. I can tell. This is a gift I have and then yes, yes, he is no good match. I'm telling you MJ, this a gift. Didn't you get didn't you like run away from your family when they were like 10? I don't think that's a gift. I think that's just like thinking everyone sucks and then fucking them over and running away. Lady. Yeah. Yeah. It is the worst and also the most hilarious and a typical typical MJ answer. Yes, she's mean and horrible to me and semi abusive, but it's only because she loves me. Ah, she was the best for me. Whatever lifetime movie was built on. God bless you. Shaz. God bless you. God bless all of you. What are you? It's Tommy. What are you with these shirts and pants? What is this? You call these clothes? Very simple. Most probably shows go from party to party. This show goes from meal to like not even like let's have lunch. It's just them. I don't know. The afternoon. Let's meet at a donut shop and eat some donuts. Okay. And then let's go get some tacos and the like someplace they're going to ingest something. What a life. And now we're at the bakery. I'm so jealous. Well, I think that's the bakery. Okay. We'll take one of those and we'll also take one of those. Do you see if those green donuts filled with cream? We'll take that. You have frozen yogurt. Great. Do you have any Hall of Bread? We don't eat it. Not you wish. Okay. Whatever you've got. Throw it in. Damn boy. What's this? An afternoon snack. Calm down over there. No carrot cake for Adam. No carrot cake. You don't like carrot cake, babe? I've told you that. Oh, okay. Sorry. I'm going there. I made a stand. I made the carrot cake stand today. As Reza puts away the carrot cake in a chevron pattern. Sorry. So they talk about the future marriage or whatever and Reza is just basically placating Adam who is getting himself worked up into a tizzy fit because he feels like he needs to make a stand on TV. Yeah. But he can't think of a stand to make. So Reza is like, you still want to get married? Well, not unless you treat me like, you know, before you hurt my feelings like back then. It's like, it's been a year. Don't tell me how long it's been. You're right. I told him. Yeah. It was a pretty dull confrontation. Yeah. I mean, basically, Adam was like, marriage doesn't mean the same thing to me anymore that you used to. And it's been ruined. And you have to work your way back. And Reza's like, okay. Then the show just basically ended. Okay. Yeah. Can I eat your croissant? You're eating that? So that was pretty much the episode. It was really, it was really worth it for Vida and Tommy. That was, that was the best part by far. Oh, so good. What are pieces? I don't like this kind of talk from this time. What are you? Tommy. It's not about you. Mom, that's not fair for you to say. Who said anything that would be fair? Actually, it's like, what is this fair? Who fair? What? What is fair? Nothing is fair. Not this munchies. So real house was a photomic reunion part two. Yes. Reunion part two. Time to wrap it all up. So it's like, hey, welcome back to part two of the reunion. Everything is about how black I am. I was like, Oh, jeez, here we go. It's like the first sentence. Let the man just say hello. I know. Exactly. And the funny thing is how it all diffused so quickly. Robin's like, I just had to ask you a question. That's all. I just wanted to know. That's a question. He's like, Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Sorry. I didn't mean to call you dumb. When I was asking, I was just trying to become educated. Oh, well, in that case, you know, I'm all for education charities. So you're forgiven and you're only half as dumb as I called you. Yeah. But it was kind of funny. I mean, Katie, Katie was winning the argument more or less, but she did wind up proving Robin and Jazelle's point, which is that she said that, well, let me back up. I think Jazelle finally articulated her point better, which is that if you were to get arrested, if you were to, you know, be, you know, commit a crime, then you'd be seen as black Katie, not white Katie, you know, and, and that's sort of like the reality of it. And he's like, well, yeah, you know, when I did get a ticket, I was black Katie. And so then Robin's like, see, you have to go, you have to check a box and he's like, yeah, well, my, my kids don't look black, so they don't have to do that until they're older. And just like, I was like, oh, Katie, you know, you're, I know what you're trying to say, Katie, and you're saying it all wrong. Well, don't they all I mean, what is anybody even talking about? I mean, Jazelle should have come out as the biggest winner because she had most plates hurling at people's faces through this whole thing, but she just looked like none of them really came out well in this. I did like Katie coming out punching just every time they spoke with Katie. He's like, and then guess what she did to me, like you go, you go angry Katie. She was going she was going and then she's like, oh, but I apologize. I'm sorry. I called you a stupid fat pig. They're like, oh, it's okay. We'll talk soon. Another one he was trying to come out was a chorice. Oh God. She's so stupid. Just that's everybody and like I like, I'm crazy. Just get the phrenic. And so sometimes you're not helping yourself here later. Then she's like, well, Eddie and I don't talk about divorce, but he's not living at home. And all we do is we talk about the kids and the weather and that's it, but we're not going to get divorced now. I'm like, well, what happened to all those freaking new chapters you were starting like for the past three or four weeks, like how many new chapters and we're still at the same place? Unfinished book. No new chapters can be read right now. It's a mute. It's a mute point. It's a mute point. And then of course, Giselle tries to take all of this, not divorcing things and she's like, well, then are you going to stop sending a skate gas messages about your divorce and make it this huge fight? And apparently, chorice was sending everybody texting, stop talking about my divorce to try and make yourself relevant, which is so chorice to say. I actually believe I went out of Giselle's mouth. And while in Giselle called her a pitbullers at one point and then I guess the word pedigree got in there somewhere and she's like, I'm not your pedigree. And then she didn't even know what it was. It's an animal, right? A pedigree? Oh my God. Oh geez. It's on the cover of a big bag of food for pets and there's like a pedigree next to it. It's like, you know, those little pedigrees. She also had it. She also had a great linguistic moment later on when she called Giselle narcissistic and but then she, and then I think Karen said, well, I think we're all narcissistic and she's like, not me, not me. And then she's like, she has this whole thing about like being narcissistic means that you tear other people down to bring yourself up. It's like, no, it doesn't, she goes, look it up, look it up. And they looked it up and she's like, that's not right. It's like a dictionary. She's like, that's not right. Well, that's what it says. It doesn't really matter what you think, she goes, it doesn't really matter what you think, does it? I'm like, well, that is the pure definition of narcissism right there, actually, Sharice. It doesn't matter what you think. Well, you know what I think about Karen? I look at Karen and I think there's a woman like she's got a lot going on this not real and Andy Gus, what do you mean? And Karen says, oh, I think she's calling me delusional, which, you know, if I had to call her something, I would say she's General Custer trying to make a last damn like a snake in the grass. Who's going to bite like, okay, so General Custer, General Custer does a snake in the grass. It was about what the fuck kind of school do these women like to? These are the dozen women. These are the narcissistic, listen, I like Custer specifically, not generally, I do not allow a general custard into my parties. Now, maybe a president custard. Those are always welcome. Love a presidential custard, but General, General Custer was trying to live out a male fantasy by crashing our military dreams and then black Bill Gates was like, now Michael you know that when you invited my wife on that trip, that you had some sexual fantasy going on. I mean, I think we all had to start with Michael and he was like, what sort of sexual fantasy would I have with Karen? Why would I do that? I've got a teenager at home, why do I be worrying about some old slaggy muppet, why that? Now that's not nice, Michael, even when the man came out and then Michael did bring his gay bitch out too, which I love. He's like, well, here's what I think. You're rooting. Yeah. Got no manners. So what do you think of that? In Australia, we're all petting each other's bums and saying no sas. Hey, if I saw Dick walking across the street that looked nice, I'd suck it, not because I'm gay, but because I'm a nice Australian neighbor. You work out Andy, you look like you work out. Let's see. Let's make a bunch of flex a little bit, Andy's like, I feel bad that he hasn't grabbed my bat or Andy was probably true. Yeah, he was speaking the truth there. Don't worry, Andy, someone will grab your bat soon. But sex will not disparate than dull. Yeah. Katie Peterpants. That's the other news. She wants Pete on a couch. This is just, yeah, this is the huge gazelle. Another warm moment declared by a gazelle. They were talking about the drug stuff that gazelle's spreading around after that party where Katie showed up, wasted, made out with Andrew and now she's telling everybody she's a drug addict and has been ever since and is tweeting it and this and that. So they're fighting about that and gazelle's like, how dare you and the surese goes, that's not nice to call people names. Like I don't tell people you're a slut. So it went from like peeing because just I was like, what if I told your secrets about how at that party, you want me to tell it? Okay, then fine. I'm sorry, Andy. I'm sorry, but she made a peat. She peed on a couch. That's the show now. She's got three babies and she was laughing. And by the way, the award for worst attempt to gain a second season on the show goes to Cherise who as they're lifting up their champagne glasses, like, Oh, excuse me, I forgot to mention, Eddie doesn't talk to me anymore because of the show. So if you want to use that season two, you know, you can be my guest. I love how nobody even cared. They were like, wow, but you were always talking about it. Okay. Cheers. Anyway, cheers. Yeah. And he's like, why didn't you mention this three hours ago? I don't know. I thought it was a mute point. You see the federal anti don't be a general don't be a general cotter. Now general tear me, Sue, any time, any time Colonel putting. I like Colonel putting Colonel Snickers always welcome in my time. That's candy. Candy. Get about I can. I always welcome in corporals. I'm afraid of Snickers satisfies you just like my husband did 20 times just this morning. Yeah, manners hashtag etiquette, Lieutenant Panacotta has his year. I don't know what to say. Well, that does it for the show part two. This was a fun reunion, but I mean, so much of it reunions are like, let's go over things we already went over and listen to them yell at people in different language. Exactly. So it was fun. And then on on Thursday, we have Southern charm, New York City, Beverly Hills reunion, which will be insane and maybe maybe welcome to the motherhood. I'm not sure. I saw the promo and I immediately hated it, but it was also because it was like, unruly kids and you know me, I just can't deal. I love that. I love. Unruly kids are the best audience and I'm friends with lots of young mommy. So I like that kind of world too. So I think it's funny because this is a show where women really do this. They have their mother groups and they just get together and get crazy guys today. We're making a headband out of construction paper. Don't tell me I'm not still partying. Oh man. That was a great sale, great, great, great sell for me. I've been. Well, we, I'm not sure we'll, we'll see if we have time to talk about it. But who knows. We'll see. I'm gonna for sure watch it. So if you don't watch it, then I'll just give you a quick update. And if you do, we can talk about it. That sounds great. Yeah. Well, if we're a couple like those mommy's and the mommy's. We are, we are a good little podcast couple. So everyone, thanks for listening, go to watchforcrapids.com to get our social media links and support us at patreon.com/watchforcrapids and of course, Facebook.com/watchforcrapids and do your foods. All right. Bye everyone. Bye. Bye. If you like Watch what Crapids, you can listen ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple podcasts. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. Before you go, tell us about yourself by filling out a short survey at Wondery.com/survey. I'm Lindsey Graham, host of Wondery Show American Scandal. 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