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One day, we'll get like a really nice professional setup. We'll have multiple mics all plugged in, no background noise, et cetera. Today is not that day. Enjoy, we talk real housewives at Beverly Hills, Vanderpump Rules, and the return of Real Housewives of New York City. We love and miss Matt, and it was great to have him back. Hope you guys have fun, enjoy. - Hello, and welcome to the Watch With Crap It's podcast. Podcast about all that crap we like to talk about our brother. I'm Ronnie Karen from Fresh Talk TV. Here I am with the lovely gorgeous Ben Madelker. I'm making it shorter just for the day. - Oh, I only get two adjectives in a day. - Because a triplet bitch is back in our hood. - Mr. Matt Whitfield from Yahoo TV. - Or Yahoo. - Yahoo in general. - Yeah, I'm not just on Yahoo TV. - Oh yeah. - I'm Yahoo. - He's Yahoo. He's big Yahoo now. He puts a... (vocalizing) Yahoo. - The B is back. - Welcome back, Matt Whitfield. - Thanks for having me. - Thanks for having me. - So we're recording in my apartment. We're all using one mic, so there you go. That's your great sound. - We're probably around, like, we're in a throttle. - Yeah, I was gonna say, I feel like we're in Sea Petersburg during the siege of 1944, whatever. - So you're at the spring, I was thinking her like on spring or wild on spring break. - Oh yeah, well, oh, I remember that. - Triple kiss. - I remember that. I remember that to say, I was in Delaware when I saw that. I saw that actually. I remember I was on a trip to Delaware, and I was in a hotel room watching MTV spring break, was it on the sensor or whatever? And the triple kiss, spring break, like '96, '97. - Nothing was out there. - Let's do it. Okay, we're back. (laughing) Back from the triple kiss, go to facebook.com/watchwithcrapins to talk crap with other listeners throughout the week about the live shows, go to patreon.com/watchworkcrapins to become a premium subscriber, like the lovely Christy Doherty. - We love you, Christy. - Christy, Matt, do you have any social media that you'd like to plug? - You can follow me on Instagram, Twitter, and what else is there? - Tinder. - I'm not kidding out my Tinder name, but @lifeontheendlist for all of the applicable social media outlets. - Okay, and by the way, I have a question for the masses. Does anyone know what the emoji is, where it's a parenthesis? A parenthesis, then a lower dash, and then another parenthesis. And anyone can answer that. - Asking for a friend. - Asking for a friend, literally. - It's on the Tinder everywhere, but I don't know what it means. - I have no idea. Well, I thought I looked the wrong thing, but you show me. I was like, oh, that's a simple for Burning Man. But then I realized it was not a dotted one. - You guys say the way the gay one. - It's like the burning hammer right there. (laughing) Burning ass man. - Ooh, ass on fire. - So excited to have you back, Matt. - Thanks, Matt. - Thanks for having me. I have a feeling that today we're going to fight a lot. - Yes. - So this is really awkward because we're excited. - We're all right around this one microphone, and I feel like there's going to be a lot of yelling and maybe spitting. - Well, this is-- - Well, this is my me. - Oh, that's your fetish. (laughing) - Okay. - This is the tradition of a "Real Housewives" episode that everyone gathers around. And it's like all high and nice, everything's fine. And then someone just has to get something out their chest, but then it's all after that. - I love it. I love a good fight. - Yeah, I do. - I miss it. - I miss it in the real world, that you can't say shit, because then everybody gets all mad, they become like a "Housewives" show. - And I'm like, remember when you said that thing, and it hurt my feelings? And they're like, "I'll just set the fuck up for gays, "and if any, you'll live, you'll survive it." - We're safe behind the microphones, so we're going to talk a lot of shit. - I know. - Yeah. - I'm very non-confrontational. So this is the extent of my competition is from being someone where they're not in the same space. - Yeah, it's boring. - You're like it. - But if it was like a face-to-face, it's like a tumble. I would like reserve for past-aggressive whispering for you. - I'm a little sad, by the way, that we are not recording this in the food court at the Fox Hills Mall. - I know. - We can't fly a biscuit, which is where my new office is. - Oh, yeah. - I went there the other day and it was just like a single, like, sad, tear rolled up, and my cheek, 'cause we weren't recording in a food court. - I know, well, we could have gone to like, Dina's, whatever. - The chicken place. - Yeah, the chicken place. - Over there, too. - Well, we could just get there on a roll. - If you want, much crazy people eat salad with their fingers. - They do have those tables. We could sell a shop at a table, and then just do the podcast. - We can have that little massage guy come over, and like give us a like massage. - That's so creepy, right? My neighbor does that. He creeps me out. - No, dirty. - Do they have the whole food's massage guy? - Yeah. - And I saw that whole food's massage guy out the other day, and I could remember where he was from, and he was like, "Hey, how have you been?" I was like, "Oh, hi." And I walked away, and I was like, "Why is he so friendly?" - Don't get engaged. Why are you talking to him? - I don't know, no, I feel freaky, 'cause that's gonna say hi to me now, when I got a whole forever. - Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. - There's a guy at the gym. This is like 40-something guy who looks a little betty, and he's like, "Hey, how's it going? "How's your workout?" I'm like, "Good, thanks." I'm like, "Your little asks each other "how their workouts are." - Well, this guy doesn't. And now I like, my compulsion to be polite, or rules my compulsion to push someone away like that, so rather than just being like, "Oh, good things, "how are you?" And I just sort of like walked. I'm like, "Why is this guy saying hi to me?" All the time, I was like, "We're friends." It's not like a hit on thing. - Does he slap your ass with a towel? - No, no, I mean, is that a white guy? - No, you don't watch this on there. - Sorry. - You guys are so east coast. You're like, "What the hell? "Who would talk to you in a jam? "Have you ever seen me on the screen?" I'm like, "Hi, hi, hi, I just went to Starbucks "in the whole fucking neighborhood now." So I'm like, "Why is he talking to these people?" - Ronnie knows every single one. And there's like a part of me that wants to be that way. Like, it takes so long for me. Like, when I go to Tiago, the coffee shop, that you still haven't been too mad. - I know. - It took about two years before they started to like, know my name, whereas another friend of mine was in there for like, a week and a half. Like, "Oh man, that's what I'm just saying. "It's name." And I realized, it's me, it's my fault. I've got to stand off at five in some way. And I hate that. I want people to say hi to me. And yeah, I don't want the guy, but I don't want that guy to jump inside of me. - God, this is a new flavor. It's gonna make me cough the whole time now. - It smells like my hand is. Smells good, right? - Yeah, blow that in my face more. - Well, that's okay. I'm coughing 'cause you're not supposed to inhale fucking French toast, okay? - So Ronnie, we don't have an ad, but I think you want to plug something. - Oh yeah, I put it at the beginning. - Already done. - Jimmy.com. - Jimmy, we have a big show, and we have to get it going 'cause Matt and I have to date after this. - At the gym. - At the gym, actually-- - I'm not asking each other how their work out is. - Yeah, we're going to people. I assume yours is gonna come through. We're going to be American Idol finale tonight. - I don't know if my ticket's coming through, I'm very jealous if you get to go. - I hope yours gets to go to come through. - I hate going to shit like that. I wish I could say it was-- - I couldn't walk there from my place. - I know, they have to wait out. - I know, but I don't think he's a two. I know he's a two, but-- - But it's the finale, children. - It's the last episode ever, until he gets recruited in five years. - Yeah. - Right, and it's running on the internet so many things. - Yeah, yeah, that's all there will be. - Yeah. - I got Hulu Quest, what the hell does anybody have cable for? That's all you mean? - Yeah. - Well, they need to get all the channels on there. Like, Bravo still won't put Housewives of New Yorker. - No, no, no, no, no, no. New York is up, they won't put Atlantic. - Because they also have-- - And it's the cash cow. And they also only have a certain number of licenses that they can-- licenses to put online streaming for their shows. So they are not gonna put the plans in there because it has such big ratings to knock them on their website. 'Cause they can charge license to tour groups to get people interested in it. - Exactly, plus they can charge more ad dollars when Atlanta runs on TV. - Gross. - Yeah. - Give me my shows. - I know. - So I did just watch the entire Jennifer Lopez show. - Thanks, Hulu Plus. - Hey, I'm Jane the Blue. Wait, 'cause-- - It's a lot we're new for a second season. - It was terrible and amazing. - You really wanted to tell me that. And also David Clark was talking about it, I think. - How's the wig? - How's the wig? - Hair acting. - Yes. - That's all I need. - You have to watch it. The whole thing is Jennifer Lopez hair acting. - And it's also-- - And is it Ray Liota playing Ray Liota? - Oh, yeah. - Okay. - And he gets some Ray Liota accent. - Yeah, like in some lives, but it's not a real accent, it's just one who made up. - Yeah. - They both have weird ones. - I think it's her face from, I don't know, I'm like the other name. - Ray Azimatteo. - Ray Azimatteo. - Ray Azimatteo. - This is how Ray Azimatteo acts. (laughs) - That's the character she played on Sons of Anarchy. She just, that's all she does. - Yes. - For some reason I just love Drands of Mateo. I once went to Big Riddle and she pulled up in a jank yes, old red van, the 70s, and she and I believe it was Gina Gershon, got out, grabbed pancakes, he went back into the van, and ate them in the van in front of the griddle. - Okay, the only thing that stuck out there was Gina Gershon because she is the queen. - I know, I want some more show girls a lot. - All right, we have to get to be sure. - Okay, let's do it. - Do we want to do it? - Let's do it. - Let's do a Crapin's mailbag question. - Okay. - We don't have to improvise the song today. - Okay. - Dang, dang, dang, dang, dang, dang. - Bad. - Her mail's here. - Mail has arrived. Okay, of course I did actually, okay, so this is from Lori. She says, "For each of my beers, thank you to you today, Matt." - Well, I was assuming so. Based on Bethany's criticism of Jules's thin bod, what are your two top piece aware comments from the housewives of New York? - Oh my God, that's really a tall order. - Yeah, I wonder if it's like, it has to be full-time, right? - Oh yeah. - Derinda asked me for water. - That was what I was gonna say too. That was funny. - I'm still cringing, still. - And we mentioned this one the other day too, but Sonya not letting people take her luggage to out of her trunk. She said something-- - Oh, I'm making sure-- - Yeah, I think we're not allowed to, because they typically are known for stealing things. - Yeah. - Yeah, so she has to carry her own luggage into villas wherever she tries. - Yeah, I feel like Ramona probably has the entire volume of things that were not aware that she said it. That's why you just can't even remember this. - Well, Ramona's really writing that to the point where now she's just making stuff up to look stupider. Why would you do that? Like, who wants to look dumb or on purpose? It's crazy. - What? - She's turning into Yolanda. What is that? - Okay, I pop hair? I pop it. I pop it paper, Ramona, I pop it. - Could do this. - Could do this to you, right? - Rickie. - Rickie. - Rickie. - Rickie. - It's my favorite time of music today. - Laura Grabask asks, "Hello guys, have you ever considered having a contest for your number one fan of the podcast to be a guest co-host for a very special episode? If so, I would like to not be myself. Thank you for considering. - Is this a question from Lauren? - Laura Grabaski. - Dear Lauren, I am the number one fan and I am the guest host today. Sorry about it. - Yeah, Matt already won. You're the fan. You know, who knows? Who knows? I might be down the line. I don't know. We're always trying to figure out other, your fun things. - Let's start like a voicemail thing on the Patreon lines. 'Cause we're trying to come up with, we're always trying to come up with new Patreon features. I think that would be fun that you could call a line and then have your, like, ask us a question on there. - That'd be awesome. - Or tell us off or whatever. - Yeah, or tell us off. - Right, you can actually be screening the call, but then they really just get on them once they're live. They just rail on you. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I thought they'd be me. - Yeah, I have a feeling I never knew. - The fake accent. - Okay, well, let's just stick with those two. We have a whole bunch more in the crappy sale bag. Let's just push them to next week. This week has been a little crazy for the lodge and everything. We're just gonna do the rest of the mail bag next week. We have a ton of questions. And there's a big, long one. Erica Wall has a big one. - I'm sorry, is that a question? Or is that, it's like a multi-tiered one. She is, I mean, maybe I should, you know, I'll get it 'cause it's all about Beverly Hills. Maybe that'll be a good second way. - Okay, good. - Okay. - You wanna do Beverly Hills first? - It doesn't matter. - We'll do Beverly Hills first 'cause I thought we'll be fired up about that. - Okay. - And I don't have no idea what Erica Wall. I'm discovering this as I read it. - All your shavers. - Okay. - Very consistent shavers, Ms. Wall. - So Erica Wall says, slash asks, as we can all kind of piece together much of the drama between the housewives happens off camera or because of what someone is saying on camera and not private. Because the cast can't break the fourth wall and acknowledge that they are making a TV show, they have to find odd ways to bring up things that they are angry about, yes. For example, I think Rina was more enraged that Yolanda and Miss Erica's dinner party not because she hung out with Kim and Brandi, but because she once again got out of filming. Yeah, I agree with that. Or Eileen getting so pissed that LVP was talking about her affair on national TV but couldn't really come out and say that that is why it bothered her. My question is, do you think there will come a time on Bravo where more acknowledgement of the cameras and show will be allowed? If so, how many seasons away from that kind of change that we are? Currently, the cast is able to address their off-camera issues on watch what happens live, their blogs, and our reunients, but not on the show itself, which ironically makes it less real. Also, for an example of a show that does allow acknowledgement of the camera's CMTs team mom, who changed the format recently through the producers being on camera and comments about filming throughout the show. Thanks, love you guys, Erica. Okay, very thoughtful, very thoughtful. I mean, I started to fall asleep like Vicki does, but that may have been my delivery. That was probably your delivery. No, that was very thorough and thoughtful. Yes, very thoughtful. Because in the middle of it, I was about to say, well, they actually do call it out on the reunions. For example, recently Kim Fields when getting in a fight with Torrell, what's Torrell's name? Kenya. Kenya was saying, play that fucking take back because they're admitting like, what's going on? And they were both wrong. And they were both wrong. So yes, that has happened on the reunions. Look, my whole thing is we know it's vague. Yeah. So I just don't, I just don't foresee a change any further. Well, one of the amazing things about the Real House, and various other reality shows at this time, now with agreements, et cetera, is this crazy, I don't even know how to intellectualize or think it sounds academic. I feel like it's some sort of post-modern thing where you're watching these women is supposed to be real life. The whole point of it is like, we're getting a peek into their lives and then they have to read it. And then all this stuff happens sort of outside the world. They could have go quarreled the show and like the press or whatever. That's supposed to be like a different sphere, right? But that stuff in patch happens on the show, but they can't act as Erica was mentioning. They can't like acknowledge it. But it's this weird thing where like, we're pretending like we're seeing them in a pristine state, a pristine house, not a state, but they're not. And it's a weird push-pull between the audience and them. And I think though that they do break the fourth wall more than they used to, but I don't think they can break it too much more. - I think the way they're breaking it now that happened in the past two years is Twitter, because now they're mentioning Twitter all the time on Instagram. And so that's how they're bringing like the real stuff into it, because they found out that they can't get in trouble with that or they're not getting in trouble using that door. And so now they use it just to bring it shit into the show. But some of it is just the characters won't film. The Rinna thing, Rinna, I don't even understand how they're still fighting about this, which I guess we'll get, we'll guess that when we can. But she can't bring that up because those are two other people who are not paid characters on the show. - Yes, they are paid. They are paid to play, they are not. - No, no, I'm saying the ones that she's talking about. Like the reason she's doing all of this has nothing to do with Kyle or Lisa. It's because of her hairdresser that was the one talking about much housing. And then they got another fight, supposedly. I mean, I heard the city gay bar who knows. - It's true, it's a lot of it has been. But they got in a fight last year about, well, no, they keep saying summer. So I'm like, oh, is it? But they were fighting because a lady that they all know who lives in Malibu was talking about it. And they can't bring up this mystery Malibu woman. So it has to fall on one of these. - Yeah. - But also you can't, if Lisa Rinna is in fact, annoyed that Joanda got out of shooting in Pasadena and she said she was not going to be willing yet for shooting earlier in the day. And that's what I know as Lisa Rinna. That's a different type of fourth wall than self-depressed. That's like an actual pertaining to production fourth wall which really, very few reality shows do, although I don't watch T-Mom. It sounds like maybe T-Mom is starting to do that, but like, yeah. - They would never address that on the housewives. Andy Cohen does not want that happening. He knows, because we know, yeah, exactly. There is an illusion there, but there needs to still be some kind of facade up. And they would never want us as viewers hearing like them bitching about, well, she didn't show up for film. That's fine for a reunion show that cannot play out as the regular season unfolds. - Exactly. Like the drama is supposed to drive the production, not the production driving the drama, even though we all know the production does drive the drama. - I think that real housewives, they don't even have to drive it. I think that these women are trying to drive their own little things themselves, and that's what's fake. And that they all start practicing and doing so. - You know, I always think back to our Jules Aaron episode, because Jules Aaron said something that always stuck with me that I felt so fascinating about how they would always make the cars late. Remember when she said that? She said it could be an event, and you'd be sitting there waiting for your car, it would never be, and you'd get grouchy, and people waiting for you would get grouchy, and then you'd shop, and then just like a fireworks film. And I was like, it's just so brilliant. - It's brilliant. - That's what shit happens all the time. It feels like no one seems to even, people, it seems like all these women are aware of shit like that, and yet they don't. They don't. - They have to follow the ways to talk about it. - 'Cause I'm sure production probably knew that it's off, 'cause I'm sure that there were phone calls beforehand from probably police awareness of, this is my conspiracy theories being like, you make sure that you're on the foster is there, because I'm sick of filming without her being there. She probably had some phone calls, right? And they're like, you know what we're gonna do? We'll film earlier and make sure she's not there. I mean, that's like conspiracy here, and you know, the new-- - But it also benefits Renah too, because it just adds more fuel to her fire on why she is justified in hating stupid fucking Yolanda. - Amen. - Well, we are, we are, we are, we are. I think, I mean, I'm very pro, at least Renah. The difference is I'm pro, Lisa Renah, and pro. - And I am anti-LVP, and it's just like, I'm done. - It's gonna happen. - It's gonna happen. - We hate that voice, because we're not. - Well, I'm the voice of reason, and that's why I'm here. - You're the voice of trees, I'm-- - Between LVP acting like such an asshole on Beverly Hills, and then also-- - Is that her selling point? - Is that her selling point? - It is her selling point, but also acting like an asshole on the Vanderpump Rules reunion. - Oh, that's amazing. - Done with her. - Oh, well, if she showed up with that, to Beverly Hills, I would be sorry, right? - Because that's her just telling everybody off and saying, well, listen, yeah, I did feel that, because you cheated on your husband's shame on you. I still love you, darling. You're not guilty. You know, that's what I want. I think she's being too much of a pussy. - Did you guys, while we're just on this question, did you read that thing last week about her telling off Beverly Hills on Twitter? - Yes, yes. - You kind of loved Twitter. So she wrote, this is, I'm not quoting it, but she wrote something like, I love how they edited it to look like I'm being a bitch, to go away. They made me go away, because they saw my passport, and they said, oh, you have to have six months on your passport to go to Dubai. You only have five. And they were like, well, you need it. So you need to go, you know, they gave her the dates, they set it up, and she went. - They sent her and so did. - And they were in the Lyme disease. Yeah, what, Lyme Academy Awards. - And Evolution actually tweeted back at her and said, you said yourself on the show, that your passport was out, and you had to go to London, and that's it. So thank you for clarifying at least on the show, like, trying to get the two with her. - Oh, shit. - And then she tweeted back, yes, which you set up as production. - Yeah. - Don't be trying to-- - Lisa's trying to run with me. - Lisa's trying to, like, push back. - Okay, so, well, why is she having to justify, okay, now I'm starting to defend LB. People, what is wrong with me? - Yes. - My man has asked them to show at this show. - That is, you go back and forth. - That is, you go back and forth. - Flip-flop-flop-flop-flop. She shouldn't have to justify that to anyone. If you didn't want to go, and that's where you'll, I mean, yeah, I can agree that Yolanda is the real problem. - Right? - 100%. - Yes, okay, 'cause she is, but Yolanda is literally not doing anything to anybody. At this point. - But the thing is, but Yolanda, making comments about, like, oh, well, you know, my real friends are on to show for this. Things like that. - Yeah, Lisa's not a real friend, bitch. - But Megan seemed like Lisa is just being shady by avoiding it. And then Lisa's like, no, I had to go to London. I was, I would have gone. She's like, I would have gone. - How about this? Yolanda's an asshole, and maybe she shouldn't even bother to go even if she could have. - Yeah, well, okay, so why don't we go to Beverly Hills? - Yeah, let's do that. - Let's get on it. - Yeah, dong, dong, dong, dong, dong, dong, dong, dong. (laughs) - Okay, go ahead, Ben. I'm just looking at the time. - Oh, I'm staying. - You do, you need to look at the-- - I'm gonna make dates, or do bye. - I'm gonna go on my notes. - Okay, this is 20 minutes and 48 seconds. - Okay, I'm pulling up my notes on my cell phone here. - Do bad. - Okay. - I feel like I'm DJ James Kennedy wrapping off the cell phone. - Okay, don't talk shit about my boy. - Oh, we are, yeah. - Okay, so-- - Basic bitch. - Basic bitch. - So we are-- - Oh, that's still a new boy. - Okay, so I have, you have the spirit, actually. I wrote notes, but you have-- - Okay, well-- - So, wait, is this the beginning of the episode? - Strong rule. - The night before is when they had the awkward and fucked up dinner, and then they're trying to brush everything off with a good old shopping trip. - Well, yeah, that cracked me up that after this crazy fight, the first scene is like the happy Alan Lazar, and you say like, dong, dong, dong, dong, dong, dong, dong. And they're like getting into roles, and they're like America, James. And I love her old eyes, but I don't give a fuck against my own camera, but I love them all. - Finally, it rills that it has a suck of dick to get into. - Yeah. (laughs) - Meanwhile, her gaze are like gonna create the bottle of the lens. You're like, take this with me for all of a sudden. - Okay, can I just say this, and he's probably listening right now, enough with Mikey Mindam. - I can't do it all. - Yeah. - I can't do it all. - I know. - Are you-- - Are you-- - Listen, Hunter, I agree. - I just feel like those guys are old queens from like six years ago. I mean, who says some of this stuff they say, please stop saying fierce, and that's everything. - Thank you. - Yeah. - Stop it. - Because now they're making Erica say fierce, and I'm like, Erica, I like you, but your lingo is outdated. - I know, I just feel, it's weird. I feel like there's like more to those gays and homers seeing, I feel like they are just like, I mean, they're just so-- - You're everything. - Yeah, they're amazing. - Yeah, they're amazing. - I'm like, I'm like-- - Are you guys just doing this? Some of you are just doing this to me. - You just tell me-- - They're doing it for a paycheck. - Yeah. - You know, they leave, and they're like, that girl is a mess. She smelled like old people. She smelled like old spies, like her husband. - Yeah, so they were not actually trying to sweep anything under the rug. They were just gonna go shopping, they were just small. - And I talk to you. - And everybody is so typical. - Yeah. - Lisa Vanderpup is like, oh, here I am. - All alone, they're the mole. Everyone hates me. (screaming) - Well, that's the total victim. - Wait a second, but she, that was like entitled. If you just had a dinner party, everyone came down. - Not everybody came down. Erica and Catherine stayed out of it and said, at the end of the table, said, we don't, we're not part of this, we don't, by the history. - Well, so, Erica, sorry. - It was something in a party where you had two or three people. - Okay, you are rounding up. You are rounding up, Lisa, right now. - I was a, and Eileen, that's two. That's not a handful, that's two. - No, well then Kyle was also saying. - Don't even get me started on Kyle. I'll did not, I've had a conversation. - You may have point on revising. - Okay, two, two. - Even so, if you're a dinner party where two people come in, you're literally being like, you fucking did this, you did this, you're this, you're this, whether or not they're justified, whether or not they're justified. The next morning you probably be like, well, say anything. - No, they were. (laughing) - You put it on the Google and you whip out your index. - I think she probably said something like, well Eileen doesn't want to be my friend, apparently. (groaning) I'm shopping. - I think that's, I mean, I think the most thing is, I think that's a reasonable takeaway after a dinner like that. Be like, they don't like it. - I don't like the big, I don't like when she plays victim, because I think she is a victim in a lot of this stuff, but I don't need to see her crying about it. - Yeah, I don't like it. - If she had more balls, the way she does on Vanderponders, I would be able to be like, yes, bitch. - Yes, I want her to just sit back and go, darling, is this again, do you have anything going on? - I know, I agree, I would like to see that. - I will give you that, I would like to see that set. I'm just saying, I don't think it's unreasonable that she was like, sulking a little bit. Licking her wounds, it's just weird to see her. - I think it was validated that she's valid for her feeling, but I just don't like seeing her. - I agree. - I broke. Especially with these two idiots coming after her. They have nothing on you, and nobody, and I just have to say, nobody is even focusing on what they're fighting them out, and they're all saying the same exact thing, and not only that, it doesn't even matter. Like, it's nothing. - I know, I agree through that, I can't wait for it to come. - Yeah, are we gonna discuss that now? Should we just, what, no, no, no, once it comes, once we get that part? - So basically, Erica basically says 30 times in this episode. - I have an effect to it, it's what I have fun. Like, these pictures are set up by, like, Erica, how about being fun? - Yeah. - How about trying that for one day? Just fucking be fun, okay? Don't pay people to be fun for you, like, the little gays with their crazy mother brows. Don't be trying to, like, be a hoe flapping your ass cheeks on the ground to be fine. Get a personality, bitch. He'd find yourself. Stop demanding everybody else do it. You're the boring one. - This was actually, believe it or not, I hope this episode showed the most personality for Erica and it wasn't even that much, but like, the first time we saw her sort of, like, laughing in the presence of the ladies. - Yeah, she was having fun. - She made, like, two jokes. - She did. - I wanna have, by the way, a golf cart take me around Blendale, Galleria. - I know, I know. - I was, like, a little man to drive me through the mall. - It'll basically be one of those things that the palettes on, and someone's just gonna drive you. Just stay around it. - Yeah, the hook will be, like, little wheels on the bottom. - I'll take it. Red wagon. I'll take you around in a red wagon. - Yeah, that was, I was actually surprised that when they were put in the little ball carts, that we didn't get the typical footage of someone driving, like, crazy. Like, these have been a little bit like, people in the mall having to, like, scurry out of the way, like, crazy fast. - It's so awkward. - You mean, like, that dune buggy accident in the orange counties? - Oh, yes, drunk driving. - You talked about that on a lot of shows. Like, don't, you can't feel bad. But anybody on Orange Bound. - Somebody was posting on Facebook and was just like, what if they had been seriously injured and I'm like, what if they had been? - Oh, well, they've got, like, 30 layers of tits. - Thank you. - They could have been seriously injured doing anything. Like, what if, like, Heather Brode took the chair out from under Shannon, and she fell on the floor and broke her neck, and then Talboton took it out of it. But instead-- - Of course we would. - Yes, we would. Just like her broken cake. - God, of course we would. - Any joke about my, I have to mention Eileen's hat. Okay, Eileen's fashion is terrible. She was wearing a forest ranger hat. - But if you think Eileen's house is tacky, look at that bitch's closet. She cannot dress, everyone shows up looks amazing, right? Even Renna in, like, the casual wear, like the-- - Yes. - With the-- - With the-- - With the scissors. - With the scissors. - With the bright white sneaker. - Oh! - That hat. She wears the nastiest shit. - Oh, wow. - And that hat all it reminds me of is because I'm happy. It's like a for real hat, man. She's always miserable. So it's like she's wearing the happy hat, but she's just complaining about something. She has nothing to do with the entire time. It's a fucking golf cart. That's not even her own car at home. God bless your car. - I know. - So they go shopping, et cetera. - Leave that one. - I think so, it's-- - This split, yeah, this split up. At one point, they, Erica Jane found some race that was, like, $700,000. She's like, "Well, you know, you can only get him to buy." And I was like, "You buy that. "I mean, he's so mad at you." I don't think she did. - No, she can't spend that. - She can't spend a million dollars on it. - Mr. Girardi's like asleep at that moment. - I don't even think she bought that little hello kitty first from Chanel. I think that that was in her backpack. She's like, "Look, look at that." - Yeah, the only thing, I think Renna ended up with a pair of shoes and, like, no one else, no one was, like, going big shopping. - Renna got kids. She got beat dazzled kids. - Like, if it was one to Chanel and kids. - Spent it. - That's where you went. - Yeah. - And you know, Kyle went to the Sabaros one. - Wow. (laughing) - Any buzzbar. (laughing) - So, the next thing is going to the bridge. - Kineefa. - Oh, yeah. - This was when, I think, my first round-- - This was important to me because of a couple of things. I know that because Tom Cruise did that mission of possible meeting us. - Yes, yes. - He does his own stunts, and I was like, "Look at Tom Cruise, clinging to the side of the building, pretending he's 20 still." You know, it was, like, desperate, but also really fun, and that's kind of where the show is right now. (laughing) - I, so, what was significant about the scene on top of the British police, right? - When you're getting ahead of yourself, the elevators. - They had to split into two groups to ride the elevators, and, of course, I mean, this is always, like, back to, like, when you're doing dodgeball as a kid, like, "Who's on my team to ride in the elevator?" - Oh! - Yeah, exactly. - I was really surprised that. I guess they have to put the camera people in there to do or something like that. - I was hoping for Renna and LVP to be in the same elevator because that would have just been like, "Ooh, and then somebody can pull the emergency break on it." - Yeah, but Lisa, Renna won't ever do anything on her own. So, if she doesn't have an audience there to egg her on, or I mean, like, buzzing her little fucking, "Mwah, mwah, do it, say it, say it!" She would just be, "High Lisa, I'd love you so much. "I love you!" - She's dead. - What if that? - What an interesting elevator. I mean, I've seen a lot of elevators baby, and this one, the farthest one I've ever been on. I mean, where's Charlie in the chocolate factory for this? - And then, Kyle, "Will someone come with me? "I'm terrified of the horizontal stripes and the elevator." That's the only thing I saw on that elevator. I was like, "Four miles." - I used to go on a horizontally-spried elevator. - I mean, that's what I keep. So then-- - So they get up top. - And then, so this is good money. So, then Lisa Vanderpump apologized to Eileen. And finally, someone, Kyle, had the sense to pull Lisa Vanderpump aside and went, "You idiot, "do you not know how to apologize? "This is what you have to say." And this thing, no, which is like, "Just say, I'm really sorry. "I didn't realize it was going to affect you so much." But I was like, "But, so I say, "I'm sorry that I said the thing that affects you so--" No, no, no, say, "I'm sorry." I realized I was like, "Okay, I'm sorry "that you don't understand my other apologies." - No, no, no, no. - I'm sorry that you feel the need to victimize people who are 20 years old to think, you know, for no reason, darling. - So, Lisa, you just have to say, "I'm sorry, I didn't realize it was affection." That's all you have to do. He's like, "I shouldn't just--" - No, no, no, no, no, no. - But she just repeated, and I think it's-- - Yeah, I know. - Yeah, Roberto. And Kyle is a perfect coach because Kyle apologizes in a way that she will say what you need, and then she'll just go talk, find her back. So, like, she never means it either, but she knows-- - But she knows how to knock it out. - She knows how to just make you say, "Okay," and then move on. Unfortunately, Eileen is not gonna move on because the bitch has nothing going on. So, she would, Lisa's like, "Uh, Link," you know, whatever. "I'm sorry you're miserable about what I said." - Yeah. - Well, Lisa's doing a job. - But the need to steal husband. - Yeah. - You know, the thing is, you know, Roberto is, you can tell that Bravo won't get in trouble because they didn't have to show the footage of Kyle's coach here. So, I was like, "Oh, that was so funny." - Like, he's presented it like, he's finally apologized. - No, they're never gonna stop banging the drum if she doesn't know how to apologize. - Yeah, so they show it out 'cause they know whether it's gonna make on the fan, which is season and the reunion, et cetera, right? - Yeah, that was so good. - Now, my take on it, 'cause I know people are gonna be like, "That just goes to show that Lisa's fake about over the plot." My take on it is, I think, and I do apologize, Max, 'cause I am in court of LVP defender and apologize. So, this is just what happens, okay? I have take that are very complimentary to Lisa Vanderpond. But my take is that sometimes in life, you do need someone to say, "Hey, you're just, "you're not saying it right, like, you can't say it like that." And I don't think it's fake for her to say, "Current apology, I didn't think it was a fake apology, "we did not." I think she just didn't, she doesn't know how to-- - Well, she literally said it, she didn't mean it. - Well, no, she said that she, she said she didn't mean but she didn't want her to be upset. She's sorry that she said the things. - She just can't recognize that her delivery, time and time again with this is offensive because it comes across cold and hurtless. - And British, I think, as Catherine says. - You can't give her a fucking pass on that for the rest of time. She has been told, year after year after year, after year after year, this is the problem. - No, I agree, that's what I'm saying. I'm glad that someone finally said to her, this is how you do it. - So, I have to say another place, because I'm the kind of person that, if you say what the fuck you're gonna say, and then you apologize because of that, even though she's maintaining, look, I did say that, but I didn't mean anything horrible. So what, you have an affair, everybody do. - Yeah. - But, I'm of the opinion that, you don't apologize. You say, that was my opinion that hurt your feelings. I would never wanna do that, would you forgive me for hurting your feelings and we can move on, but to like backtrack and be like, oh, they want her to admit shit that she's not gonna admit because she's not doing it. Like if you want her to sit there and say, I was slut shaming you on national TV. - But I don't even think Eileen cares about her bringing up the affair. I think Eileen only cares about Lisa giving her a proper apology for being a bitch. - Well, I don't think anything would be a affair. - No, it was, it did have to do with the affair. - It did, I just don't. - The thing is, she said why you think she's a bitch at work? - Because she brought up the affair. - And that was, and I said at the time, Lisa did that on purpose because I think Lisa was getting in there, but he doesn't agree with it. - I do think Lisa was saying, oh, you've been married? Like she didn't know. - Oh, three times! - A hostel was in the thing. - That's it, she doesn't do full-on research before these movies. - I stood the new-- - I actually did that. - I said it last year. - Yeah, and my theory is that I think Lisa was drunk at the party at the Hamptons all day long, and she just wanted to get the dirt. She's feeling no, she's like, so I'm not the fan. I think she just wanted to be like, she's like, come out, so let's talk about it, you know? Finally, like, no, now we know each other for years. Let's talk about it. And Eileen just didn't want, you know, she didn't want her to wear a fair mention on TV because it's a barrel. - I still do that. - I think that Eileen cares more about Lisa's saying-- - Do you ever-- - The way Lisa said, I think she said like, if you don't want me to ask questions about your life, then I won't. Or something along the line. - No, Lisa was allowed to say a fair because Eileen was offended that she brought up a fair. So when she's apologizing, she can't say, I'm sorry that I brought up your affair because Eileen wouldn't even say it. Like Eileen did not want to talk about it. So she was saying-- - Well then, at least she'd not be on reality TV. - Exactly. I mean, Lisa's dope, but don't get me wrong. These says many apologies have been all terrible. Like, it's like Lisa, you could have cut this off at the past three or four times, but you're too proud. Like, just, you should have eaten this humble pie. We all have to do this, someone just give, it's not that it's even a fake apology, someone's you gotta say things in a way where it's more important to make someone feel better than for you to have the last-- - Well, she also should see Eileen is never going to let this go. Nip this in the butt. - Exactly. - Yeah, but Eileen's just like doing it so stupid. And she's trying to burn her down, and she's winning, and she doesn't even have to go into very repulsive-- - Wool's mouth. Eileen just needs to comment because-- - But Lisa needs to communicate to you 'cause if I were her, I would have just said, Eileen, darling, yes, I was teasing you about your affair. I love knowing the gritty details of everything. And I think it's romantic that you left someone you didn't love and had a hug. I didn't know I was offending you. I'm sorry you're defensive about it. I won't bring it up again. I'm insensitive sometimes. I'm not going to be funny. - No, this is-- - Yeah, exactly. - But this is-- - I think she can't communicate. This is where her, like that British cultural thing starts to happen, where it's like, you know, one doesn't do that. One just says what one has to say. - Well, that makes me then question all of the relationships in her life. Like, what is her relationship with her husband and her children? It makes me just think that if she can't communicate with these crazy women that are some of them who are her friends and some are who just random fucking women, then she must be just twisted and messed up. - I don't think so because I think, again, you know, we're always this British. I think they need to communicate with each other, so they'll be just fine. And you know, Pandy's Pandy, you know, so, you know, Pandy was craziness. You know, I just think certain people, there's a reason why it's a reality TV show. They've been boiling water characters together. People who are going to explode with different songs. - And certain seasons, you can be the nice one, and then another season. You can be the villain in this season. Guess what? She has to play the villain card. Just, that's what it is. - How do you go on with the villain card? - It's starting to turn though right now. I mean, you guys love LVP and I get it. And I think that a lot of what she's done this season is justified, but you have to admit that a lot of people that are watching at home and that are listening to this right now are Team Renna and Team Eileen. - I don't know if that's going to be honest. I mean, I think they're all-- - But they're all listening to your bullshit. - Well, I'm actually both Team Renna and Team LVP. I'm traveling the fence because I like them. I like them both, and I can see, I feel like I, if they were both here, I could fix it. I could fix it both. - Can you give me this? Like, if anything else, just give me this. - Yes. - Renna, for all of her silliness, if she were not a part of this cast last season and this season, there would be nothing going on. - As you guys said, Leslie. - Well, actually, I don't give you that because-- - She fought with Kim all last season and it wasn't-- - Last season, last season, yes. But this season, no, because it's made up bullshit. It doesn't happen to me. - No, no, no, no, no. - No, no, no, no, but it's like-- - She keeps bringing it up over and over, so nothing else can happen because I don't fucking talk about it. - I don't, here's the thing. I think I mentioned last season before, how some people think that Renna, just getting back to the storylines, doesn't have anything else to go on, but she has been driving the storylines because here is a prime example of something small and petty that has now blown up into this huge thing, which is very much like what happens in real life. When this happens on a Real House show, I've always contended that the best seasons are when there's a small thing and it doesn't get results. It's bigger and bigger and bigger and now here we are, shouting in your bungalow. - Right, yeah. - And the main problem, truthfully, it all goes back for me to Yolanda, because Lisa Renna never said Munchausen's first, she engaged in a conversation where somebody else said it and she repeated it saying that she overheard this. If Yolanda had never latched onto that and made this, Lisa Renna said that I had Munchausen's, we would not be talking about any of this. - Exactly, Yolanda couldn't just been lunch. This is what I say to Yolanda. Yolanda kind of just said, oh, that's ridiculous. I appreciate you apologizing, I know. - Please don't talk about my health situations with people that are not my friends, you goes around, then she goes to the chest. Eric, I mean, Eric also played a role in this too, because Erica went, told Yolanda about like, well, Kyle, at least we're saying this value. So then that inflamed that situation with Lisa and Kyle and then the Munchausen and then all of a sudden, everyone's mad at it and no one even seems to remember why they're even mad. They just are mad and now they're feeling like Pawns in the big game. - And they're all gonna think hugs. - People's memories are so short. I mean, Yolanda came at Kyle and Lisa both and said, I heard you said this, which of course, Yolanda repeated it in a way that was completely false. - Yes. - You know, it's just when they're on the rest of us. It's like when you're talking about my kids. - Yes. - 'Cause that's what set Ren up. That's what set LBP off. It's just like, I have never talked to you about your kids. - And then it went back to it. And that's also, but then they were like this. But then it was cute. - Just while we're still there, remember where you are tomorrow right now. While we're still there, she came to the rest and she kept in front of them. Lisa said flat out. Darling, the women have been talking about it. - Yes, we have. Because if you do this, then you're doing it. - You're still on social media. - Then you're taking like a glorious selfie. Then you're asking, you say you can't run and then we, you know, you take us on a scavenger hunt. Then you can't drive and then you say why you're driving. - So yes, we are talking. - It's like, yes, there are some inconsistencies, but we weren't being mean-spirited and coming out here. - And I never said much out. - And nor are we ever questioning that you don't aren't ill. - Yes, so they aren't. And Kyle said, well, I just thought it's because my mom died. And maybe you were depressed about it. - You know, that's, I mean, you haven't gained 20 pounds yet, but you could, and if you do, call me. - And you know, and don't forget what Yolanda's response was, I heard you guys talking about me. Lisa Rinna said you guys talked about me. And it wasn't Lisa Rinna's. That gets Lisa Rinna's answer. Now she's in defense, but she's angry. - But look, you didn't get mad. Vanderpump and Kyle never went after Lisa. They mentioned it to her, but they haven't made it to see someone. Oh, you told Yolanda, we said it when you were the one who said. - Yeah, but the point is that, you know, Yolanda says, when, when, when Rina gets like shut up against the wall, or she feels like she's being misunderstood is when she starts to go kooking. And this is when she started to go kooking, okay? And, and then she's been kooking the rest of the season because she's, you know, she feels like she's been, she's taking the brunt of it. - She's taking the brunt. Well, she was angry at her mind. And then Eileen starts getting into her head that like, oh, well, you're really being manipulated by having some Vanderpump, actually. And then, and then Rina's like, well, I think they're both, you know, she's going crazy because of this. Yolanda could have just nipped this, but she has, she has actually made, took it to the next level. And again, as we said last week, during all this fighting in Dubai, they said you did this, guess who's not there? I guess it's at home, being carried to the feet up. - In her bathroom. I like that you said that. - Is Yolanda getting her white robe at home? Yolanda. - She's changing her last name to Hadid, so she can ride the coattails of her six-year-old daughter. - Her dog, yeah, exactly. - But, so anyway, so virtually, but. - Okay, virtually, I swear. - I swear. - I swear. - I would not fucking go up there. - That's what it is. - Yolanda gets her apology. The way she wanted it. And then she tightly smiles and she's like, "Well, thank you for saying that." And then she turned away. - And then Lisa followed her and said, "God darling, do you want to throw me up the building now?" She's like, "Um, no." - The only no sense of view, where I was not gonna be nice. She was like, "Bucket, I don't care." - She didn't seem to know. I would like to apologize for that. (laughing) - It's too, it's city-rate that I promise I don't think so. It's virtually the vault, please. - All right. - And then they take a selfie. - Yeah, so then I think next we have a brandy, is it when Yolanda has a little thing that we can't. - Okay, yes. Mike Bowman in the comments, one of our beautiful listeners said, "Why does Lisa Vanderpump always have to apologize "at like a humongous landmark?" (laughing) - I'm not so curious. (laughing) - That is true. - That is true. - She has to be high up. - Yes. - With a threat of death. - Yes, imminent death. - And another funny one is people talking about how Yolanda can only shoot in parts. - Yes, I know, come on, let's go. - Oh, sorry. She's like, "Ah!" (laughing) She's like, "Oh, I'm not busy. "Let me sit down on the grass now." - Well, she said on Dr. Oz, it wasn't even a tit. He's like, "Did you have lime?" He's like, "No, I mean, I don't even know what to come from. "I didn't give tea about it. "I mean, one time, whole fly." And I said, "Oh, whole fly!" It's like, you literally just read the definition of your supposed disease, please. - Right. - You can at least keep it straight where you want Dr. Oz. - Or it truly is, much hasn't. - So, yeah, I think it's just a playing out line. - I don't think it's-- - I think it's a good question. - You should give it to the press. - I think it was just a press, because she knew that her marriage was falling apart, and she just wanted to wear a bathroom. I mean, look, I'm depressed, and I just want to wear a bathroom all day. - Me too, I call it just being a depressed gay person. - Thank you. - What the hell? - Well, the other thing is that-- - Where's my award? - I wish Yolanda could see that when Kyle and Elisa, we're talking about her illness, the beginning of the season, there was, you know, a surmised death perhaps. It had to do with depression, whatever. The point is, there's nothing evil about questions and lines either. It's not questioning whether or not you're lying. It's saying, you know, you've had this for, you know, a few years now, maybe it's the best I does. Maybe there's something else, maybe there's something more. But, you know, it's like, there's nothing wrong with trying to think about things. Like, it's okay to look at things critically. - Here is me now going to defend LBP. She and Yolanda hate each other, and I love that that is coming up, and this is, we'll get to the, we'll get to the yacht here in a second, where it's just, it's put out there. They hate each other from years past death. Why can't Lisa Vanderpump just say, I hate her, and I'm talking about her behind her back, because that's what people do. - Because she has manners, and if you're talking about friends behind her, if we're shit-talking, like, we're telling the mics on here, and we were shit-talking about one of our friends, and you went to dinner and told them everything, you'd be the fucker. I was the one doing it private. It's not, it's, I shouldn't have to go up and tell somebody off all the time. I get to have my shitty opinion with my best friends. - I want to. - Yeah, that's true. - She shouldn't have to chase that. Your mom is so fake, she's been coming after her for years, and Lisa knows, she's staying the hell away. I don't think Lisa even cares enough to hate your mother. - I think you're right. - She's too cool, she's right. - She was away from her. - After that, instead of over 10, I think LBP was like, I'm done. She'll be in the cast with me for this season and no more, and I will put up with it for one more go round, and then this bitch is gone. - You know what, Lisa, I will get to it, but Lisa, I think, had a pretty good response about that situation later on. - Yeah, she did, well, we're almost there, right? I mean-- - Where was I from in the Brandi? - So Brandi. - Brandi. - Brandi T-shirts. - Brandi and Kim. - Oh my God, this was like the picnic of Rejects. This was just like, it was bad, broken ladies. - You know they offered, like Kim Richards, a $50 Trader Joe's gift card. She was like, "I'm there, I'm there!" - Because it was not Trader Joe's, it was like two for the last-- - They told her, they told her Julia Roberts would be there. Someone's shooting Julia Roberts in a park. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Or him. You know, we wanted to get better, but she, you know, she was like, "Ahh, gee, her eyes were like half-closed, "the entire time of like, oh, it's falling." - She'd be able to laugh like this, if they were talking about drug use or something, she'd learn. (baby crying) - Like her eyes were half-closed, and her mouth is full of food, and it's open. - Oh, and Brandi being so clever, I brought them all short, and like, Brandi's was said, no fun being sober, which they were famously photographed at, so I was like, "Fucking Brandi, at least now we know, "it was like a joke." But, like, she had that stupid thing, she got, came to something that said, "Medicaid," and she said, "Yo, Austin," and said, "Sigg." I was like, "Yeah." - And then do you love Kim's little joke, and she's like, "Yeah, but you should add the word never." (laughing) - Please, yeah. - And more like always. - Escape to comedy down there. - Yeah. (laughing) - I thought Kim looked halfway decent, I thought Brandi looked busted to me, I don't know what's going on. - Especially in her interviews, she looks great, she looks like, what was the name of Landon D'Amarte? - Landon D'Amarte. - Linde Amante from Game of Thrones. - Did you ever watch Game of Thrones, Matt? - No, please. - I have standards. - No, no, no. - That's why I don't watch the Real House, I was up to tell him that you would flip this shit for Game of Thrones. - If I could, if I had all the episodes. - Have I had all the episodes? - Is it up there with gallery girls? - Yes. - Yeah. - It's like number two, five. - It's classic. - It's classic. - Pearls, clutch. - The only reason why I didn't blame the crappy that you're the best show was 'cause it had to go up against like Vanderpump Rules season two or something, which is like-- - Which was legendary. - That's legendary. - That's like honor. You can't go up dance like how I face it. - I think Brandi looked like a skinny Elton John like dressing like Austin Powers for Halloween. - Yes. - And her mouth can't move properly and she's talking about how much she's getting laid, which as men we understand 'cause it's usually been whacked like that. They're always talking about like who they're fucking, it's like 10 years younger than them because it's their last breath. It's like right before your face just goes to Michael Douglas Town, you know? It's like, she's just holding on to that last-- - And I get it, girl, you go. It's like a great American dick buffet. Go get your dick, girl. But it's hard to believe when she can't even make an ole with her mouth anymore that she's giving all those blood jobs. She was like, she just came from the dentist. You know, it's like that blood power off. She's so strong, like it's like just not opening, which is why she was-- - Like a muntier muntier. - And you want to talk about funny ass brands. You're like, I love the Brandis and the Kims because you see what you see. You know, they are just seeable. You see them and you say, look, I'm seeing them. I don't know what the fuck she's talking about. - Well, my takeaway was she just pretty much called both of them stupid bucks. That was what she said. They're basic. And they're easy to be friends with because they're basic and dumb. - Well, I did almost with that because these are free women who have been like chewed up and started and like literally on the curb. They're like on the curb of like Santa Monica Boulevard or something. - I feel for Kim because she literally was. But Yolanda and Brandi both started it. - Yeah. - And their respective chewed out at this. - They put themselves on a plate and put a fork right next to them so they get chewed up. So fuck them, they deserve it. It was sad and Yolanda is like, oh. - Oh, I think it's so sad when the people, you know, they always need a new toy, a new wife, a new car. What happened to the old things? I'm like, you're on your second marriage for money. - Yes. - You just changed your name to your daughter's head to try and get more money. - Yes. You left your house because he ain't paying for your vacations anymore. What the hell are you talking about? You don't keep on changing men all the time. - Trust me, it belly gets one commercial. Gee, he's in the fucking dust. - Yeah, and how about like, how about like, stop being like awful? Like, you know why you get so? Because Brandi is like starting rumors about her friends. Kim is being crazy. And you are causing this whole like, line, perpetual line guilt situation. Like, of course, still what's going on. - But will it only come to when you are sick the first week or the second or the third? I'm like, Yolanda, you've vacillated between four years and 15 years depending on the story. - Yeah. - So I was just sitting in some David sperm smelling bachelor fuck bad to like comb your terribly oily hair. Okay. - And did you notice that like three of her women flew to New York for your line Academy Awards? Like, people still hide out here. - And she didn't have any friends any way that she lost. Who did she lose? Lisa was never her friend. Brandi was never her friend. I leave was never her. Well, I leave will show up and maybe it was like those three channels. - But she didn't lose her. - Just her. - Andrea Bocelli. - Andrea Bocelli still won't talk to me. - She compared it to Twitch's alcoholism and Kim is like. - Yeah. Here's what she needed to do, Yolanda, okay? Sometimes people like, I'll make you feel guilty. Don't do that. 'Cause if you feel guilty, then you'll get thirsty. - It's like, Kim, she's not suffering from alcoholism, okay? - I know. - And then she spilled on Yolanda's ostrich first. - Yeah. - Yolanda was like, "Well, you want such a mess?" And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. - Love it. She's like, "No more big things for you." - Oh, and Brandi is so independent, you guys. She's like, "I don't need a man for his money." Since when, you married a fucking actor. Okay, and you're still talking about him every day, so don't act like you ain't using a man, just 'cause he ain't paying you anymore. - Yeah, exactly. So back in Dubai, the gays were let out of face names. And for Catherine's birthday, they were like, "Let out of their cage." - I will say they do have skills because Catherine has never looked better. - She looked, I mean, she looked better. She did look a little drag queen, but she was, she didn't know her hair. She never definitely had a lot of-- - She had the bruise wig. I mean, totally it was amazing, but I think her lioness mane, it was working. - She's 51, she looked great. - Oh, and the gays are trying to make her math. They're like, "You feel content out of that? "Are you mad?" She's like, "No, I'm not mad anymore, I mean, awkward." Was my math, Catherine was so stupid. - I'm sorry, but was it, again, was it plenty like a thing like three years ago? - I was like group policies in one or something. - Yeah, thank you, girl. - What's going on? - I actually, it's funny, I love this thing for her plenty many times. I actually didn't realize it was funny and the content gets together. - What is wrong with you? - I thought, well, tell them what's rigorous. So, I don't like-- - These aging women look like men with lipstick and terrible wigs and they're shocked at what a drag queen's saying. - I know, but it was-- - They're like to be about fun. I hope nobody's fighting with each other 'cause we about fun, right? - That is all she said. - I was like, "Fun, 'cause you know me, "I got a jar already, that's fun. "I don't touch my chapel. "The funnest place in my entire capacity, my house. "A chapel, I got a chapel." It was the day that I outside the chapel with the printed canvas of their twat. Everybody said that. - You know what's the most fun of all? Looking at the empty couch and into my house. So fun. - Okay, so then we are getting to the dinner on the yacht. - It's Renee's first yacht experience. - Right, which Kyle is appalled at hearing that Lisa Renee has never been on a yacht before. Kyle's appalled. - Kyle's Lisa Renee never been on a yacht. You know she at least did dinner cruises or something. She'll do anything. She's like, "I've been on schooners, Katie, "but never a yacht. "I've never been on a yacht that I didn't perform on." (laughing) Oklahoma, the yacht virgin. - And then Erika's like, "Oh, we just have a yacht. "The other yacht wants. "I need a plane, plane for work." - No. - There's more pleasure, I was gonna cry. - Yeah, I was gonna cry. - I was gonna cry. I was gonna cry. I was gonna cry. I was gonna cry. I'll give it anything. I almost had a toy boat too. I was gonna cry. I don't think that was too much. So I thought I was gonna cry. (laughing) - I'm trying to read all these to get like the basic gist. Okay, so then we go-- - Then we-- - Then we just immediately start the fight. 'Cause I'm not talking anyway. - No, Kyle does, doesn't he? - Well, the first thing that happens though, Lisa Vanderpump starts saying, "True dat, true dat." - Oh, she got that from some-- Oh, 'cause Erika is like, "True dat." She's like, "What is this?" - True. - She's like, "What means like, you know, "that's true." - You can't say that. It's not appropriate. It's not true dat. - True dat. - And then later on, so she's like, "Zoozat. "What is it again? "Zoozat." - She probably listens to reggae music. (laughing) - Feel her shut up. - True dat. - I'll make us throw you off the building, be alert. - So, yes, so now the big fight pretty much starts. 'Cause-- - Yes. - Round two. - Round two. - Round two. - I just wanted to say, this is all about Katherine's birthday. - Okay, baby. - Cheers. - This is Cheers, everybody. Okay, Kyle, get it. (laughing) - Kyle's like, "This is awkwardness. "Let's talk about it all. "Let's just put it all out there." Don't talk about my sister. I can't talk about my sister, let's talk about your shoes. - Oh, it didn't. Katherine isn't this the time Katherine got a call from her mom. - And her mom's like-- - She got to speak with a big man, and she's like, "Well, I love you. "Who is this?" - She goes, "Oh my God, my mom." - And then Kyle makes it up for her, she starts to cry. - Yeah. - She's like, "I'm getting another 20 pounds." - They want you to go to bed. - They were all crying except for Lisa Vanderpump, who was like-- - She can't cry. - Yeah, she's like, "I don't think she even has her." She's just cornered in the egg, you know. - Well, and I lean too. - I lean was like, "Well, my mother can't remember me either." - No, I think she was crying. - She was crying. - I feel like she was so cold. - What's she laughing right now, but she really did say it, just like-- - That's how I felt. - Let's just like, "Look, when you're in your 50s, 60s, "I'm gonna be shocked when your parents are sick." I'm not saying it's not terribly sad, but let's stop acting like, "Oh, my mother, her hips are hurting." - What's that? - Yeah. - Yeah. - "Oh, my mother is 43." Okay, so we go. So Kyle, of course, Kyle has gotten off a little bit because she's had Lisa Danner pump to kind of hide behind 'cause Renna's going after her harder, but Kyle is still the biggest fucking shuster, and it's cracking me up. She's like, "Okay, well, it's really awkward. "I think we should just have the talk. "We all hate Lisa Ryan." - Yeah, and then it's like, "Let's go!" So Renna starts trying to explain it. It's Renna who tries to explain it, right? - What happens here? - Yeah, Renna's trying to say, "I think the issue is that you and Yolanda "don't like each other, and we're just pawns your game." She starts, "I think with that," and that's how she-- - So, okay, the pawns thing is a bit of a stretch, but I do like that she brought up the fact that LVP and Yolanda just aren't friends. - Right. - That is the crux of a lot of this. - Yeah. - And so what I liked, this is what I was sort of getting out before. What I liked was Lisa's response about how when Yolanda went off on Ken, 'cause if I remember correctly, Yolanda being nasty, Ken was also on the heels of the whole tabloid gated wherever you go right. - Yes, that's on your trail, everyone. So, they started telling her off at that. - So, 'cause Yolanda started telling up, and she said that, and then it's a season finale when Yolanda started yelling at Ken, being like, "You're a super man," or whatever. And, you know-- - 'Cause she touched her arm. - But Lisa had a good response. She was like, "Well, I didn't like that." She was like, "Well, I didn't like it." And just the way you were Lisa Rinna, and they cut some of these sort of fun glass down. It's kind of like, CDC-- - Okay, okay, look. Lisa Rinna had all the right in the world to break a glass and lock up-- - Yes, right, agree. - 100%. - We actually were starting to see progress there because when Lisa Vanderpump brought that up with the Ken Yolanda, then Rinna wholeheartedly agreed with her, and she said, "Yes, I would have defended my husband the way you did." And Rinna was essentially saying, "I understand why you hate Yolanda." - Yes. - Get it? - Yes, yes. The thing is, why does Yolanda-- I mean, Rinna and Eileen just sat in the corner before this happened. And Rinna's like, "Mom, mom!" And Eileen was like, "Okay, focus. Mom can't remember, anyway." So focus on the present and then she started changing it. She goes, "I actually feel sorry for Lisa Vanderpump. I have empathy for her, because she must feel like such an outsider. I'm thinking, "Oh my God, because you've been born here all week, of course." And said she goes, "And that's why she feels the need to control everything." I'm like, "Ugh, what is she controlled?" - You know what, what is she controlled there? - I like, I should not watch these shows by myself, because I clearly see them differently now, because really, Eileen is the biggest shitster of the month, and she's a fucking paid actress with an Emmy award. She is delivering. - Yeah, she is, she is-- - Well, she just seems a writer. - I think Yolanda is the, I mean, I believe that Lisa Vanderpump is manipulative. I do believe that, but I just don't, they are acting like she's manipulating to some awful, nebulous end game. Like, to what end? - Right, no. - Yolanda though, I think though, however, I think that what's good about Lisa Vanderpump is, she's crossed the four, the fact that Yolanda is perhaps the biggest manipulator, and Eileen, I think, is actually number two right now. - I agree, and I think that we'll definitely see more of that on the finale, because Rina says it to Yolanda Space. We've seen that in the preview. - But I don't know, I mean, as much as Eileen stirs the pot, and she is egging Rina on, she wants, she really just wants Lisa Rina to fight Lisa Vanderpump for her. She's looking for a tag team mate there. I do love, and I think I get wrapped up in this, I truly, truly like the friendship between Eileen and Lisa Rina. - Yeah. - I like that, and I think that's important. - Listen, as much as we're talking to you about Eileen, I still like Eileen quite a bit. I just think that she has, she has, she's erred this season. She's erred, she's got all, she's like, she lost some of that cool reserve that she had last season. - That's why it's not even about her. I mean, even if she was just going at Lisa about the other thing fine, I just don't get whether going after about this much housing thing, where they've already said it to Yolanda Space, what they had to say, we know from Lisa Rina's own blogs, that it was her supposed to hairdresser who said it. So it was literally nobody. They brought it up. - Also, I don't know if you can just stand up at her own birthday party, raise the glass of champagne and say, Yolanda's not here, fuck her and her life since days, we're all living alone. - Because Catherine is like the newbie and she annoyed enough people in beginning up her arrival that she's sort of just hanging out and just trying to be accepted. It's just watching it. - And I don't blame her. I think she's getting a fucking free fabulous trip. - I think she's having a fun time. - I'm starting to like her more. I understand that she's resurrecting the same. - She wrote people a little bit the wrong way. She's kind of aggressive. I actually do blame part of that on her being a little bit deaf or deaf completely in one ear. She is enjoying her. I would want to be her right now. I'm sitting back. I'm going shopping. I'm enjoying this. I'm not nearly rich enough to really be in the social circles. So I'm going to enjoy it while I can. - You know, we were saying the same thing then, beginning, I liked her more than mine did at the beginning, but then we both got to a place where we both were like, oh, Catherine, and now we're like, I'm like, she's not so bad. - Look, you come like them all when they don't talk. - I mean, that's how come you don't want everybody over again. - Yes. - She came back and she shut the fuck up. - She's in too, yeah, she's still an asshole. You cannot change that level as well, right? - So then the fight moved to, of course, about, well, what did Lisa say to Lisa? What did Lisa, what did LDP say to Rina, and then Kyle, Kyle's back, whatever. So this is where it's going to get, this is where my career is going to get. It's the same thing again. Like Lisa's saying, I never said, why didn't you bring Kyle into the closet? He said that, Lisa. He said, I eat it and you're not holding up to it. You're not holding up to it. - She said, no, I said, I thought you were going to. - So he said, no, you said, I thought what was the difference? - Kyle, Kyle and Lisa, well, Lisa Rina said that LDP, walked up and said, why didn't you bring Kyle? And then Kyle says, yes, we said, why didn't you bring Kyle into it? And then so Lisa Bamfum says, no, I thought you just think, drag us all into it. I said, I thought you were going to bring Kyle into it. And that's when I had this aha moment, which is the phrase, the sentence, I thought you were going to bring Kyle into it. Those exact words can be interpreted in two totally different ways. It can either mean, I thought you were going to bring Kyle into it like, what the fuck? What the fuck? What would mean, I thought you were going to bring Kyle into it, thank God. - So, 'cause I love so much, you're stoked like Kyle. - It's totally possible. - She said that sentence and it was interpreted in two different ways, because it could be interpreted in two different ways. And I can see Lisa Bamfum saying, oh God, I thought you were going to bring Kyle into it or follow it for yourself. And if she did say, why did you bring Kyle into it? Why would she think that she was going to bring Kyle into it in the first place? So, there was either some conversation where she said you're going to bring Kyle into this, right? And when she didn't, she was disappointed, but if she was not set down. Or, I mean, why else would she have said it? I don't understand that. Everybody knows it was right up. - I think my whole theory-- - What does it mean? - My whole theory is that she said, I thought you were going to bring Kyle into it. And Lisa meant it as like, oh, thank God, I thought we were going to get dragged in. And Lisa Rinna took it as like, hey, why didn't you bring Kyle into it? And it explains everything. - But LBP is sticking by that one extra word or whatever in there, and she won't let it go. - Oh, it's intense. - Well, Kyle lost her shit on her. Because Kyle is like, I can't be painted out as the liar. If anyone's going to be called a liar, here it's you. And Kyle sees the tide turning, and she sees all the other women in Kyle's joining now with Rinna and Eileen going, hey, I'm not going to be called the liar. If anybody hears the liar, it's you. - Well, she just doesn't want to be called a pussy. - Wait, but Kyle's roller it was, wasn't it that her roller it was out. Lisa Vanderpump came back and was saying like, oh, I thought that Rinna was going to drag you in. And Kyle said, if you're trying to make this thing, don't you dare, I'm going to take you down. - Yeah, we all talked about it in the group text. - So Kyle didn't even hear this exchange. The fact that she's claiming what Lisa Vanderpump said or didn't say is actually kind of silly. They got so far away from it. - Well, and the rest of the women think that Kyle admitting that is her corroborating historian because Kyle and Rinna are both on the same page and Vanderpump, it's two versus one. So all the other women are going, well, it must be true. Lisa Vanderpump must be terrible because Kyle corroborates what Rinna said. - And like, why is it that no one can just look at these two women, three women, and say, is it possible that Lisa Vanderpump said one thing and she meant it this way and Rinna heard it this way and now here we are. Why can't they see this? - Why can't Lisa Vanderpump just say flat out? I told you that day, I went over the bridge and I told, I told Rinna, speak your, say whatever you want to say, girl, but for a second there, I thought you were going to bring us into it. And here we are, Lisa Rinna has both, she's accused us both, she's brought our private texts that have no place on this show. End of the show, she totally has no place. And this is the bitch right here. I didn't do anything wrong. Kyle didn't do anything wrong by talking shit. Of course we're going to talk shit, we're best friends. These are Rinna does something wrong by doing Yolanda's family. - I'm sorry, you really think they're our best friends? - They actually are friends in real life. - I know that they are friends in real life. I'm questioning it because I think that Kyle is her bitch. - I think that Kyle is always trying to stab her in the back and can't do it. So Kyle was finally like, well, I'll just be friends with the bitch. And by the way, I think Lisa actually likes Kyle. Lisa could have gone, she could have said, I didn't bring up your children. Kyle brought up your children literally 20 times and you'll see it on camera. Kyle's the one doing it over and over. - Yeah, she could have sold Kyle out a long time ago. She won't even mention Kyle. - Do you think that's what you think that's because Lisa Vanderpump truly, truly likes Kyle and wants to be our friend? - I think she does. - Do you think that she needs an ally this season because she sees the tie training. She sees herself being beaten and edited into the villain role. - I think it's always seen, the only evidence I've seen. - But this is not blind standing up for Lisa. I'll call her bullshit when I see it. But all we've seen from Lisa, this entire series, is Lisa wanting to be friends with Kyle. She stuck up for her with Kim. She did whatever she could. She tried talking to Kim separately. She tried sticking up for everybody that Kyle was against except Randy in the first year because, and she did it first. Remember, she was really me to Brandy at first. But then she realized that Kyle was lying and so she was nice to Brandy. And then Kyle saw that and started hanging out with Brandy. And then they all went after Lisa and Lisa never saw it coming. Like she was legit crying that season when they turned. - Yeah. - She was like, what are you talking about? I made a joke about magazines or whatever. - Yeah. - So I've seen her do nothing, but she wants to be friends with all these people and she thinks they're really her friend. And then when they... - So maybe I think it's her. - Maybe I think it's her. - Maybe I think it's right. - Because it is on the outside. - She is, I think part of it is because she's older. - And actually, you know, I think that Eileen is right when she said that the relationship between on Kyle's end, between Kyle and Lisa does parallel with the sister because you know what? They were when they were fighting there in the yacht. And then finally Kyle says, you know what? Let's just drop it. Let's just drop it. I was like, well, that's probably... - That's probably a pile. - That's been a problem. 'Cause you say drop it. You're actually just... - You know what? - That's so... - You're still blaming me for it. - Yeah. - So why would I drop it? - I would have dropped it. - And Lisa told her that if you still like me and you really think I'd try to betray you, it was stupid. Why would you be friends with someone you think was trying to betray you? - I do like though that Rana brought that up and made that parallel and that connection because I do think that that is how Kyle operates and the majority of the relationships that she has. - Yes. I think, I mean, again, I still am like, I've got, I'm team, I'm team, Rita. I think they are being pit against each other. And I think that there's a very obvious misunderstanding. And it's actually frustrating when you see an obvious misunderstanding and they don't see it. And so they just keep doing more and more harmful things for each other. It's like, no, you guys are ruining your friendship. - Right, that's not to be ruined. Because the greatest thing ever, with this current cast, I, again, I love, really, I lean. But the best thing is the two Lisa's going to get a baby horse and hanging out and being silly and being bitches together against everybody else. - Yeah. - I need that to come back. So this shit has to get figured out. - I think that's where Rana started getting a problem because at the end of that horse trip, she was pissed. Like when she came back, she was exhausted. She's like, I've had to sit here for 12 hours in this fucking farm watching banter pop cry over a horse and I don't think she liked feeling like Brandy Lambo, like her little sidekick, that she was the one. Like, I have to be brought around to be the funny one for Lisa. And I do think Lisa thinks like that, but not the mean way. I think she's like, this chick's hilarious. I want to be friends with her and go get a fun shit, you know? - Right. - And I think the producer probably egged that on this one. - Well, I mean, I don't know, I mean. - This episode is sponsored by Amazon Prime. The holidays are fast approaching. And that means it's time for Prime. If your gift-giving game could use a tune up, check out Amazon's handy gift guides for everyone on your list. 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And that's why I'm not acting. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's me. - But it doesn't, 'cause Rina feels like she's, you know, she is brave and she's a head-out. - And like you said, and when Rina gets rattled, she starts acting erratically and Eileen is just fucking letting her on fire. - I wish Rina were like here, just like, you're like, Rina, I'll go through it. Well, let's walk you through this. We're not saying that LVP is innocent, but like, just keep your mind open to the idea because people miss for member things all the time. You know what I don't forget, though, is when Katherine and Eileen started to snap at each other with Lisa and-- - Oh, that's in their moment, it doesn't even live it. - We happen to get started with the whole living. So Rina is trying, Kyle is trying to go, everyone's trying to go with Vanderbilt. Eileen just breaks again and she's like, "No, that is not what we're talking about. "The problem is that she felt you were manipulating her." She's like, "But I wasn't." She's like, "Well, that is her truth, Lisa. "That is her truth. "She feels like you were minute." Okay, last week in your blog, Eileen, you said we don't get to all choose our own truth. There's only one truth, but now suddenly it's supposed to be Rina's truth. Eileen just has nothing to do with you. And then she's like, "That is this!" And she slams a table and runs, like, walks away. Said, "There's nothing to do with you. "Why are you mad?" So then they all go downstairs and they're like, "I don't want to talk about them anymore." And then they talk about them the whole time. And Erica's in the corner and I'm like, "Hi, stop staring at me. "I'm fighting how I stand there in my heart." "Fucking's in my heart." And then Eileen is trying to listen at the door. And Catherine's like, "Just let them find it out. "Like, who cares? "Don't shush me." - Yeah. - And then she's like, "Shh, did you just shush me?" "Yes!" I was flapping at the TV, like a fucking ceiling. - I was waiting for Catherine to get her fucking buffet ass. She was lying down on that house. - You hit her. - The only reason why she didn't hurt her is that I'm sure by the head pump guy. That's how she had taken out her hearing. I was like, "Yeah, I'll just turn it out." - I don't wanna hear any more of these pictures on my birthday. And then we had probably the saddest, most awkward birthday cake since Big Brother and Heeshoe. - Oh my god. - Heeshoe's birthday party. Hey, you want to celebrate a birthday? He ain't cake. - Nobody even ate the goddamn cake. They just blow up the candles and then Kyle's like, "I'll pack it up and take it home." - Yes, sir. - "I'm taking my cake to go." - Yeah, she took that to go. - So basically, they didn't win anything. Lisa never admitted anything. Although I did like that conversation with Kyle 'cause Kyle's like, "Lisa, it doesn't even matter." - Stop saying that. - "Just say you're sorry." And she's like, "No, I won't because I didn't intend that. "And I'm hurt that you would think "that I intended to throw you into the best." - And the best thing is, they both make valid points right there. - Yeah, yeah. And I think actually, sometimes when people are both like, "No, I don't know." People are making bad points on both sides. That's when you have to think, "Okay, there is a manipulator going." There is, it's not like, they're both, they're both being pitted against each other. But like, if you didn't see about ends, then someone-- - They were making fun of Yolanda. As they both admitted they were doing it. They were in a group text with Renna. Renna went and decided to get herself a storyline 'cause she read on Twitter how much she sucks. And then she started using everything they said in private against them. Renna, it's all fucking Renna's fault. And when she sits down under that boat, she's like, "I want you all to notice, babies, that." All of these problems, they all involve one person. You bitch, they all involve you. Every storyline that people are pissed off involve you or I mean. So, get outta here, and you can't argue with that. Although, I like to think it's Yolanda's fault, 'cause I like Renna. She does owe me her son. - Yolanda's just too fucking stupid. I mean, I think she gets her army of hoes, her Eric, her brandy, you know, all these people who need her for something. And she's like, "He's that dusty." So she gets all bitchy, and then they go off to her because that's what good Chola's do, you know? Like, you stick up for your bitches. And now that David Foster's gonna be out of the picture, there's gonna be no more classy dinners at Malibu with Andre Bocelli. Guess what? They're dropping yo-yo like a hot cake. - Yeah, I know it's funny when you're dropping her. - Don't forget, when Yolanda first showed up on this show, you know, I love Yolanda. She was just like this beautiful-- - Lemon super winner in the Malibu. - I don't remember when we had Katie on the show, Katie, 'cause we're all out. And Katie, 'cause we're like, "Yolanda Foster." She is a cut fitness. She said that to her, she's like, "She is." And she went through all these reasons, 'cause you know, Katie's fiance is major, then he's gonna be the third day. He's gonna be the best friend of David Foster. And I think friendship was, didn't she say it? It was like, I think it was altered because I feel like the friend is gone. And she went through all these things, and I was like, "It's funny that Katie's doing that. I don't know, I still really like her." And now everything that Katie has said has come to fruition with Yolanda. - I just have never liked Yolanda's face, 'cause she's, "Oh my love, oh my days, get out of here." The guy has like a chicken skin hanging down on your nose while he's on top of you. How long does it take to get that guy on? I mean, you can't add it here with your, you've been in love forever. - Well, you've known each other for a year, or whatever the hell it was. - You can't say, "Get out of here, I guarantee you." - I know, I can't stop saying it, I'm trying to stop. - No, what, I'm not, it's annoying, I know. - It's not annoying me, I'm saying it's jogging my memory to just say, "Yolanda has, she's gone." There's no way she's back next to you. - So now she's more famous than ever. - Yes, yes. - And now she's on Instagram again in her bikini pics, leaning on palm trees. She thinks that Bella and Gigi are gonna be on the show next season, because unless they are part of her contract, she's not getting another season. - I hope, she won't be spread out. - I think Yolanda's gonna be back. There's a full-time cast member. - 'Cause there's a part in doing not simmering, it's simmering feud now. I mean, like-- - Well, I mean, she's better. She's trying to, she's trying to shine instead that she's better. - Well, so she can get another job. - Yeah, yeah. - That is so fucking true. - They start shooting next month, so. She's trying to get her job back, girl. - Wow, I feel like we really got some questions. - Okay. - I feel like we like, sorry, we're excited too for the finale, because Kim is back in a party atmosphere, which means there's an open bar, and Renna goes after her. I think that there, again, I just need to say this one thing. I still feel like Lisa Renna has an issue with her friendship with Kyle, because of the fight that she had with Kim all last season, and I think that that is still part of this season's issues, and I love that she can't let the Kim thing go, and she's gonna continue to fight her ass next week, and it's gonna break her friendship with Kyle. - Well, mine, Renna. Renna, again. She's like, I think you're the biggest manipulator on the show. - She's the much of the Yolanda, and it's true. And then she tells Kim probably that she still thinks that she's a drug addict best. - Something Yolanda comes after Lisa, and it's like, "They're telling me the truth, Ted. "So you say them much, how's them? "And you do the this?" And Lisa's like, "Oh, darling." - Cannot wait. Okay, so Lisa's blog this week. I won't read the whole thing, but ma'am. Lisa unleashed whatever it matters. She has been using this whole time, not yelling at people like she does on BPR, and she just let it go this week. You guys take your own paragraphs that you want, but we have all seen the footage of Lisa Renna avidly displaying the diagnosis of much thousands on her phone. I, in her defense, tried to minimize it, attempted to defend her actions to Yolanda, EJ's barbecue, how she can attempt to pass the blame to flex from her own actions, beggars belief. She says she is enraged by Yolanda, socializing with Kim and PG, enraged that speaks volumes. - What was that saying? - Some of us are sentenced like that. (laughs) A traumatic fucking thing. - Totally, I love it. - And her ellipsees. - Yeah. - Now then, we should now read this and remind ourselves of Amsterdam, how she smashes a glass, goes to Strangle Kim, tells her she loves her, then sends fuck you up texts. These are all the rankings of someone who is not playing the full deck. - That is not true. She was in all the right to do after Kim played her theory to expose something about she and her husband. - Yeah, I don't think that leads to right experience like that. - Yeah, that's not crazy. - But the real issue is the importance of two words and how they can radically change the meaning and inference of a sentence is like interference. I want to kill you. I do not want to kill you. I wish Kyle would have understood that. Blah, blah, blah. So two months later, two months. What the fuck? That has clarity. She really rates the conversation that at the time was apparently innocuous, obviously propelled by somebody who has another agenda. Somebody that evidently, no amount of apologies will ever suffice. She. - B-E-G. - I apologize. - I'll just call this function. - Eli, where are you dancing? - I saw him yelling at him. - I know he's like, I know he's like initials. I'm like, "This is E.T. again." (laughing) I apologize to her once more, blah, blah, blah. The initial conversation in the Hamptons had provoked no reaction until 36 hours later. At the time I liked Eileen, found her a little boring. (laughing) I certainly didn't take her to task for leaving abruptly in the Hamptons, but it was never my intention to hurt her when I mentioned casually, "The affair!" Why is she using quotes around her? - Because that was a thing to you last week. It was all about, "You didn't apologize for the affair!" It had been discussed last season and I didn't believe it to be particularly sensitive. Now I have a vastly different perspective as I have witnessed the venom that has spewed from this woman as she tries to manipulate Brinner to attack me. With hindsight, after seeing so much nastiness where I never retaliated, I would have asked her how she felt screwing some of the women's respect. (laughing) That, actually, in retrospect, speaks volumes. I can't begin to explain how those days felt. Okay, victim, victim, victim, victim, victim paragraph. - That, wow, I have never-- - Yes, it's a bit of a problem. - Trouble it like that. - Huge of their actions with regard to much housing and infidelity is their motivation. - Wow, yes, true. - I thank you for your indomitable support. No, as Brinner said, I didn't play the victim. The victim would be better played by a seedless actress who had departed floods of tears. - Smap, wow. - Is that why I leave? - Yes. - I think it has an Emmy. - Oh, well, she's still on daytime, girl. - Perfect. - She actually has a job and makes money. - Perfect. - Her big job last year was a YouTube video, doesn't it? - I bet you all good week. Life has moved on and focus has shifted more important matters. - Blah, blah, blah. - Okay, I'm sorry. So is she allowed to slut shame Eileen? First of all, yes, Eileen cheated. Yes, this other guy cheated. And so what, why do they care? - Well, they don't. - Me personally-- - Does the one bring it? Eileen's the one who brings it up every episode? - Me personally, I never would bring that. 'Cause that's like, those are things that are put out there that cannot be taken back. But that being said, oh, that was hilarious. - I think Lisa, banner pump was finally-- - She's like, I've been rowing mics with these bitches now for six years. And if they want me to call them out, she's been begging me to call her out all year. Fine, slut. You're on your third husband, okay. - Okay, fine. Don't do it in a blog. You're already in that season and do it to their face and interpret it. - Yeah, I agree. - Stop being a bitch or somebody and don't just sit there and do nothing. - Well, the real problem with you there, girl. - The other problem is that a blog like this keeps Eileen having a issue. All it does is that I was just-- - You wrote a good blog. You wrote a good blog. That's why you wrote a blog. - I prejudiced. - I prejudiced. - I prejudiced out. - Well, Eileen's blog was-- - Well, you all saw the truth. - blah, blah, blah. And I, P.S., I told you she never met the topology. - She's like-- - She's taken that to the grave. - Yeah. - But she's so dumb. It's basically what I said before. I think she did mean it in a gym one of her feelings. She never expressed a problem. - I don't think she'd just say, look. Yes, we were both married and we fell in love. We didn't mean to. It happens. We feel terrible about it, but we're still in love and I'm not gonna apologize to my affair. So if you're trying to fucking slut-shame me to dinner, fuck yourself, old lady. - Right, and if she had said that on camera, there's nothing L.D.P. could have said in return. - Yeah. - That's what I said. - She would have just said, I didn't mean that. She would have been like, yes, you did. Then it would have been a real fight. - Yes. - That's a real fight. But Eileen just being like, well, you were asking me so many questions and-- - Now it's like six months later, shut up. I want you. All right, so-- - So this is one of New York 'cause it's already almost two-fog. - Well, thank God. Banner pop rules was just another herpes, Britain cast screaming at each other about nothing. So I won't take long. - Yeah, we'll do. We'll end with pop. - So I just haven't heard-- - New York city. - Real housewives of New York. Wow. - So first of all, already back in love. - New music. - New music. - New intro. - Yes. - Yes. - And let's start off with this. Does anybody miss? I tweeted about this last night and people gave me some shade. Does anybody miss Kristen or Heather? I say Heather. No. - I would rather-- - Heather than this new. - No, I'm down with the new. I'm down with her because I-- - She sucks. - But that has the potential for her. - For hatred. - For us. - I think that only just had that woman cast because she can say skinny girl over and over. - Yes. Good point. - Yes. - I mean, I miss Heather at like a macho level. - Hey, mama. - Hey, mama. Because I love the way Heather can switch from being, like, super failing. Hey, mama, to just like raging bitch. I love when she goes on her bitch switch. I love that. - I hate Heather, but maybe I will end up missing-- - You were in the mirror for that. - You were so pro ahead of that. - Not until last season. No. I will miss watching Kristen's marriage crumble on TV. - Oh, yeah. - After the Ashley Madison scandal. - Oh, wow. - I wanted to kind of watch that. - I want to start putting like plastic wrap over dinner that her mate made. - Yeah. - And those are some good stuff. - So her asshole has been josh with the stupid stuff. - So gross. - I wanted her to like wash and robble, and-- - I liked Kristen, but I won't miss her. I won't miss Heather. I think I really loved Heather's like-- - Yeah, I mean-- - I had a lot of cake. You know, I flip flop with Heather a lot. - Me too. - Me too. - I did like that Heather was real. She was not a funny bitch. Even if she was trying to be everybody's mom. But I loved her like, oh, you're not gonna eat fish with a shell. Okay, do you want some mac and cheese? - Yeah, and Bethany was getting so mad. She's like, would you like some meatballs? Would you like-- - She was just trying to be nice but she's being so overbearing and terrible. - I have to build this against Bethany and Dorinda last season. - Oh, it's so yeah. - Oh, and so. - Oh God. - Maybe I'm just Heather. I'm taking my tweet back. I'm deleting my tweet. - Well, the thing is that also like Heather was like a master. Dorinda, they're like, do you want this? Do you want this? Like, no, no, no. Do I sure you don't want this? Well, I guess she doesn't want it. I guess. - She's like, it's great. - She was so mad like she'd be like, oh, I don't really care about it. I don't really care about it. I'm going to give it a fuck. I'm going to give it a fuck. - I get it. Like, I get her. I get her passive but overly aggressive way. - So the episode opens up with Bethany's new apartment, beautiful new apartment. - And Dorinda. - And Dorinda. - The real New York apartment, one long hallway. - Yeah, the one long hallway. - The bedroom is off the floor. - The divorce is still going on. Dorinda shows up, is getting it to work. Bethany takes Dorinda into her closet and it's like, well, yeah, it's a small closet. But, you know, it has a cool shape. I'm like, it's a small closet. - It has a motherfucking shed on Lear. - I know. - Well, it's Bethany's. - She's like, well, look, it's not as grand as it could be. - No. - Dorinda said it's small. - Oh, she did it? - Yeah, she said it was small. - Well, Bethany's was also bigger and now Jason Poppy is living in the house. - Bethany just forever shuts a fuck up. I mean, from the minute she came in, she was like, oh, hey, hey, dim, okay, here we go. Here's the house, I love this, like, like, like, okay, yeah. Here's the closet, here's it. - Dorinda's trying to say something, but she just, look, my theory is that, that's why they're friends. For now, my theory is that there's going to be a massive in between the two of them. - It starts next week. - Oh, yeah. - Oh, yes. - Because, just based on all of Bethany's comments and interviews, Bethany's saying that she's dependent by the white top, by John, when I was like, they're doing the classic thing, which is that they like, they were probably nuts to frame two people as Fred, they always say something. - They always say something like, you know, I've been really getting close to something, I just really charge my friendship. - We've been spending time together in the Hamptons this summer. - Yeah. - The drinking gets all going, it's all going out with what I-- - Right, every time Bethany was in a confessional for a fucking 42 minute premiere episode, every time she was in there, something about Dorinda drinking. - Yeah. - Every time. - Drinking. - And then John. - Great to meet you. - She was, she was saying things at Dorinda the entire time, so you know, 'cause you know the interview probably, you know, filmed weeks and weeks later, and you know, and Dorinda is typical like, alcohol-y, you know, like her personality is so difficult, shit. - Well, you got a drink and a lot of time drinking. - So I saw a martini in your half last night. - Yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter. Do you want a drink? - Yeah, I'll have a lot of wine. - I'll have a lot of wine. - I'll have a lot of wine, I'll have a lot of wine. - Oh, now that you've got one of the cameras on, we're not gonna say make it a double, I'll have a double fist as well. - I'll do a martini drink or a glass of wine, it's like stinks, so I fucking love Dorinda. - You guys, if you don't want a surprise sandwich, don't have a surprise sandwich, that's all. She's gonna be doing too much of this, she is. So, yeah, I've actually come into a business for a server. - So they bring up this new girl who Bethany has just been, oh, it was that Cinco de Mayo. Yeah, that's what we got, up that girl. Cinco de Mayo, I mean, I don't understand her. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Cinco, I don't know, I don't know what this is, there's a whole five in my life, it's a good debate. Why don't we call it the debate? We're in America now, and I don't know, it looks like Mexico, I don't know, it looks like Mexico, America, I don't know, it looks like Napa, it looks like Napa, it looks like Napa. I don't know, I'm filming right now. They're a train, I can't go. - I love her, I'm mad damn, I love her. She's back at last season, when the seasons are, I don't think with a lot of people, when-- - She keeps on the bang, last year. - Well, I mean, I was like, oh my God, Bethany, like I wish I'd like to give up, but now she's like totally back, like she's a little Bethany. - She's hilarious, and Dorinda's like, what did you think of the new girl? I'm like, I'm kind of sluggish. - I was like, yeah, she's like a prettyish Jewish person. That's what I thought, nice. - No, she said Carol was like, oh yeah, that's right, she might go back to me, oh yeah, that's right. - Oh, 'cause she doesn't text back, because she's so busy nesting. How many times do I have to hear the fucking word nesting, and that dumb dog baby, who names their dog baby? - I know. - I hate how obvious was that. - Hate it. - She's like, I'm mad, you're like, I've been with him, and then we got a dog named babe. - 'Cause I have dead eggs. - No kidding, it's a little on the nose. - Yeah. - Clearly also, are we going there yet? Are we going to, I was just packing up, I got it. - Just slightly, I'm just gonna say. - The bold are the main scenes, you don't have to read all the crazy, but the bold is the main scene. - Well, all I was gonna say. - Go back to a pretty Jewish girl. - Oh yeah, that's just Bethany was describing her in a completely flattering way. She said, ah, she's a prettyish, not joke-struck. - Nice, she's so full and she's kind. I have a theory that Carol's gonna get with that. - She deserves one 'cause she fucking sucks, and the other issue is, they're bringing Adam onto the show, because why? Because Adam now wants to be part of the show, and up his fame factor, and now he will be in every fucking scene that Luann is not in. - Yeah, oh, I agree, and I actually loved it when Bethany talks about Adam's Instagram. She's like, yeah, we followed each other for a second, but then he had some, like, Instagram thing, he was like throwing herbs there, and they showed this ridiculous thing. It's a low motion herb. - And Bethany was like, and then I was done. - Yeah, I was like, yep, I am so- - To Bethany, right, Bethany, back. - Like, on the set, like, was everybody down. - But my problem at the end of last season was, like, I hate Bethany and Carol being friends, 'cause I've been anti-Carol from, like, Gekko, and I don't like Bethany and Carol together, because it hurts Mike. The best of them all is Luann, and I feel like Bethany and Carol were teaming up against Luann, and I want Bethany and Luann to be together, and that system just needs to happen. - They are gonna team up against Luann again. - I think they are down. - No, they actually love them. - I actually love-- - You love them. - I can't decide. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Yeah, of course. - I love Bethany and Carol last year. So I think that they're both, like-- - I like Carol, I think they're like, I think she's, like, smart and funny, et cetera, and I love Bethany and Carol together. I think that would be a fun relationship. But now that we're getting into nesting, Carol, with the boyfriend, I can already tell it's wearing thin, and I'm, I feel I'm leaving too. - Carol doesn't have any more herbs to go pick up, so what is her fucking storyline going to be? - I'm ordering fucking Chinese sort of my boyfriend and sitting at home and having a dog wearing a-- - Carol is already two things or so that are really bothering me. First of all, she brought a baby into this, like, camera store, and she's like, I don't want her babies to serve us all. I'm like, so you're one of those people, like it's one of these bullshit services. They're people who have, like, real service animals, like Ronnie. - You know where we buy socks off West and my seat, without a cray. So there are people, I'm just gonna ignore what Ronnie is saying. - I know. - But there are people that, like, legitimately need a service animal for whether, like, it's, like, a psychological stuff. - Why do you talk about emotional shit to the service dog thing? - Emotional, but the thing is, and I brought this up before, there is actually a huge racket behind the service animal. There are these companies that just make quick money where you pay on $50. You get, like, a print at home certificate, and you can just fly around with your dog, or you can go on any pump transmission, go on anything. - It's like the golden age of flying with a dog. - It's like, it's got to end soon. It's a big racket. It really is. You know, I don't know what the judge is. - Why, why are you so passionate about this? - Because I don't like when people take advantage of the system. - Well, my calling is this, I like dogs, but it was a cat, I would kill it. - But here's the thing, though. So, baby, I'm sorry. I have a hard time believing that baby is a service animal, okay? I really like it. And here's a cow with her coffee cup full of poof, and her big service animal going into-- - Wait, wait, wait, what's that really full of poof, but she was saying that to Adam, because she forgot to pick him up a coffee. - So, it was full of poof as you put it on the counter. - Put it on the counter! - Oh, wow! - I didn't even know this guy. - They were one wrong move with one floppy hand, and there was a poop. - All the way baby poop everywhere. - Truly baby poop. - Well, the entire city smells like that. - And then, you know what also bothered me? This is muted. This is what I don't know about it. If you don't have the whole scene at the end, Carl's sitting on the counter. I'm like, why are you sitting on the counter? Like, it's 'cause it reminded me of like-- - She's pretending to look like the whole scene. - Like, I'm like the cruel girl. I sit on a counter 'cause I'm cool. - She sits on his candle bars all the time. - There was, that's me that was getting, like, petty shit that was getting up. - Oh, I hope she gets a bad edit. - But I love it for you. It was like, matters. Like, for just ignoring every social grace. Mine, the thing that's always killed me about her is the struggle to like, maintain the youth. - Yeah. - Because I'm an old Jamer. - I say, getting older is so great. - But she only has fun, good success. Oh my God, when she said that. And then the whole, this whole scene was her trying to be Carrie Bradshaw. - That's what's sitting on the counter. - So you know that young Matt is bucking you because he's getting more pussy in Ecuador, wherever the hell he is. - Well, yeah. - He means a new $1,000 lens. So he can go see-- - To go sort of, but that's a good show, yeah. - That's why the sitting on the counter bothered me because it wasn't just like, oh, one does not sit on a counter. There is like a thing that like the cool kids do. - No, it's called desperate because she's trying to act like she's young. - Yes, exactly. - Just in your business. - She's trying to be a bit better. - She was being cool, like, you know, like in middle school and high school, like if there's a, even if you go to a club now, it's not, one doesn't sit in the booth once it's on the table, like you're higher up, you're cooler, like, isn't this so cool? I'm sitting on this, so her sitting on the counter and you know, she'll throw on the ring and be like, yeah, there's these podcasts to talk about me sitting on the counter as it's bullshit. So yes, I take accountability. I have been petty as hell. But to me, it's like the body language of it all, it's just turned me back to plays with the cool kids, sitting on desks and sitting on things like their own. - It's like hipsters are hard enough to take when they're fucking 25, lady. Are you supposed to grab that? - You're supposed to grab that. It's not being an answer. - If you're gonna be a cool girl, you need to do it like Bethany or even Ramona, like she's the biggest nerd in the world, but in her mind, she's the ultimate. She's like, I want you to clean up a boutique. And she's actually, she's probably gonna end up being the coolest this season 'cause she doesn't give a fuck. - Yes, I mean, that's what it is to be older and cool. You're not supposed to give such a shit anymore or what everybody thinks of you. - Luann is so worried about it. - And I think that Luann maybe has actually let it go. Carol, I guarantee you, this season will not let go. - Luann will still be mad about that dress that she was accused of from Michelle Obama's go on her. - Luann will never let that shit go on. - Yeah. - On E-Vine Live. - So speaking of, speaking Ramona, can you go move on to Ramona? - Yeah, thanks. Go for it. - That's where she meets up with Aries, 80s keyboard music. Ramona, New York, it's a number one place to be single. What's happening, York? It's me, Ramona. - Oh my god. - It was like, no. - She was literally like taking up a hotel channel. You know what your hotel is like? Welcome to New York, it's a number one place to be single in Domingo. - I was sorry. - I would never leave Ramona. - I'm sorry, come to AOA, Avenue America's on, Avenue America's on. You hear what I did there? You hear what I did there? Lots of great music. - I have a problem with Avery drinking and socializing a bar. - Wait, also, how did Avery church, when she went to college last season? And now she's 21, and yet Adam is only age nine months. Like, what's going on? There's a rift in the slightest space in the world. - Oh, exactly. 37. (laughing) - So, I liked to, so Ramona said a bar and-- - Davey and Skatey. - That's cool. - What is that? - I like these books. - There's a bartender named, like, Rochia, Rochia, or whatever. I remember I was like, "No, Kia?" "No, Rochia." - Rochia. - I remember I was like, "What's her name?" "Ridikio?" "Ridikio." "Hey, Ridikio." "Hey, Ridikio." (laughing) - Hey, better lettuce. (laughing) - I like to-- - This summer it has stayed consistently, every single first episode of the season. Ramona's like, "I'm troubleing him. "Here's what's happening. "It's a new Ramona. "Everything's different about him now. "Now, I'm concentrating. "I'm just taking him because, like, me and Mario, "like, I finally realized he's not coming home, "and so I treated it like a business. "I took money out of Mario's account, "and then I kicked him out of the house." - Oh, good. - That's okay, but we're at the Better Business Commission. - Oh, it's single. - Single angle. - I don't even care about Mario now. - And you actually mentioned that-- - Sorry. - I think 30 times. - Yes. - Sorry. - Sorry. - So, Ramona is now, like, hitting on guys. - There's my-- - You heard your name. - Yeah. - Avery brings her friend over and she goes like, "Oh, do you go to college for Avery?" She's like, "Mom." She was my childhood head friend for 12 years. - We summer with her other haptons. - I'm sorry, I don't remember. I'm sorry. - Further proof that all those blonde girls in New York City look and act the exact same. - Exactly. - So now, I think there is an old tourist lady behind Ramona, and she's like, "We're thinking out." - And the old lady was like, "Oh, my God." - Because Ramona's trying to flirt with that guy next to her and she's like, "Oh, hey, do you know what we're thinking? "Do you know what we're thinking? "Do you know what we're thinking? "What is it? "I'm crazy. "What is it?" - It's like, "Oh, we're thinking out." - Make it tell you. It's like, "Give it up, you'll slag." - Okay, so Ramona didn't admit to getting new breasts. But Bethany, again, besides talking about her renovating drunk every time she was in a confessional, brought up Ramona's new boobs. - Yeah. - Did you get new boobs? - She's got new breasts. She's got the boobs. - I thought she looked great. - Yeah. - I'm not a hater. I like that she's single and I want her to go out there and I want her to fuck everybody. - Oh, my God, Ramona flirting is my favorite thing to ever have on this show. - But don't you think she's one of those girls that just starts to get a hand job and then she doesn't even finish the hand job? She wouldn't even get passed back. - Oh, I think she's banging 'em? - Oh, yeah, I think we win as a banger, right? - I think Ramona likes to talk to me. I think she's a type who likes to do a little flirting and then the guy flirts back and then she goes back and it's like, "Oh, my God, she's like in love with me." He just will not stop flirting with me. "Oh, yeah, but I don't need it." Like, whatever, I could do better. I'm like, she's like, "No, I'm saying that she likes to talk a big game." There's sort of-- - She has a retent. - You're saying this, right? - There's sort of people who, when they're out of a very serious relationship, they're really not ready to move on, but they like to talk like they are. So they'll sort of go into the motions a little bit and then they'll be-- - This is becoming like a therapy session for me, Ben. - But you know what I'm saying? Like, they go to the motions and they do a little bit flirting and they look back and then they get this like, faux cockiness? It's like this armor that closes like a-- They tell me like me, but you know what? I'm not interested in it. So like, whatever, and it's-- - That is me complaining about Tinder every day this past week, I'm not even allowed to do it. - Were you just out of a serious relationship? - Oh, no, back on track, back on track. - Oh, look at that, look at that. - You see with his new tits. - You sure? - It's a good match. - But if you go out with Ramona, you deserve what you get, because this is how Ramona plays. She's like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa." - Like her head's moving everywhere, and her eyes are bugging out. She's looking up and down. - Part of me may have to fly through the mouth. - She might be great, Ben. - Oh, she got out there. - She's probably strange. - She's got those real famous thighs. - She knows she's got those real thighs. - Turtle time, girl, turtle time. - Not crack or die. - So, here's an odd term, that's, the wad and Sonya are like a duo. - I don't like this, because I love the wad. - I like Tarsa. - I like Sonya for it. - I love Tarsa. - It tarnishes the wad's brand. - But is this happening foreshadowing because of the wad's upcoming engagement in an eventual wedding? Because her new fiancee used to bang something. - I think that's how they met. I think that we're gonna get there. I think that's gonna unfold. - I think they used to be friends and then they weren't after this show because Sonya went off the deep end. But now I think it's, now that Bethany is back being the star, I think it's easier for them to be friends 'cause they're not jocking for position. - Exactly. - They know the pecking order. - Yeah, they're like, we've got to save this money. We're lucky to have this damn job. - Especially the two of that. - Yeah. - So, basically, the wad was like, well, my kids are out of the house. My kids are out of the house. - Except the interns are still there. - Intern. - And that is basically doing sleepovers at Sonya's house. - Well, right, I mean, and that can be on this 12. - Which is a callback to when the wad was asleep overs at. Jules Ehren's house. - Or sleepovers with Johnny Depp the pirate. - Oh, yeah. - And Sonya's like, you're not gonna bring him back to my child's room. - Do it this bed, right? - Oh, no, you can't. - Right, yeah, correct. - She's like, the round hair is set up. - I wear what you're asking those to do for extra upset. - Okay, I was disgusting what the conversation about. - Well, how do you give him the jumps? - Oh, my God. - I gotta go to the dentist because the doctor told me I have, you know, these teeth like right in the back as she looked and she was like, "Ew, how do you control her fingers "in her mouth to find the Eskimo boat?" - But when Sonya explained a blowjob, she's like, "Well, you know, "you give a blowjob to a lie "and when you put the penis in your mouth, "the way that you guide it back and forth "through your lips to your throat "is on the roof of their mouth." And so how do you do that without a guy? - I mean, they love my blowjob to Santa Fe. I mean, John John, they ask her all the time. You know, I teach this little Irish girl and I taught her everything I know about my job. So I'm a computer number three. (laughing) - And Luann said, "Well, you'll get railroad marks on it." (laughing) - Cut, right. - That's so good. - I think Luann is not pretty easy upon, like, whatever cigarette happens she has because her voice is almost gone. She's like, "Oh, you just got to get railroad marks." Like, Luann, please. Like, you have to save your voice to them. - So many European nice times. - She is sounding more worse than ever. - This, like, three season old Luann just dropped the whole count as bullshit. It's so great to me. - She loves her. - She's just being the post she is. She's fucking around married man. She does not care. - She's not care. - And then the bad idea is going to come for her this season more 100% which makes me sad. - But Luann is finally ready to defend it by going, "I'm wearing a chunky statement, to her quasi necklace, and I don't care that I fuck whoever I thought, I fucking am all." - I don't think that this is really for Luann. My theory is that they show in the pre-season that they have a fight. - Do you think that's really for Durinda? I think it's Bethany repeating what someone said about Luann, because they do that all the time and probably make it look like a competition. - Well, what seems to happen, 'cause Luann is obviously married for money, she's married to Diakestino. So she fights herself, yes, she's bound to be rich. Mother fucker. And I think he's probably an asshole. - Good for her. - And Bethany doesn't like him 'cause he's an asshole. And Luann's like, "Listen bitch, this show is not going to last forever, it's called a job, back away." It's like, "Nep, nep, nep." And so Bethany comes to tell her that this guy's been cheating on her and Luann is sobbing like, "Please don't do this to me." Like, "Bitch, you're doing this to me on national TV, so now I'm going to be shamed when I marry this man, so I'm going to forgive anyway. I think I'm marrying him because he's going to be loyal to me. I'm not going to marry him. - More than I'm marrying him. - Yeah, that's exactly. And she's like, "You're ruining my retirement fun, bitch." And Bethany knows, "You know, Bethany is an awful fucking friend. God, I'm really loving around this show." - Well, so speaking of which, so then we have a scene of Bethany and Ramona getting lunch and what cracked me up. Bethany is sitting there at the table. And Ramona walks in. This place felt like Sarah Beth, so whatever. She's like, "Oh, I didn't know there was one of these towns here." And then, immediately, this is so Bethany. She's like, "What? What about downtown? What's wrong? What's wrong? What's wrong with downtown? What's wrong with this? What's wrong with this? What's wrong with this? What's going on? What's going on? Hi, I'm sorry. I got a phone call. I got a menu. It's like, there's so much things going on in the restaurant right now. Like, I never can't deal with it. It's like, "I don't get it. It doesn't go with this." It's like, I'll get the brand, I'll get the brand. It's worse, I'll get it, it'll be downtown. I'm sorry, if you ask me at this restaurant over time, if you ask me at downtown, I mean, I'm going to cry, okay? What was that? - Oh, what, are you talking 'cause you saw this? Is that my dress, LOL goosebumps? - No, I'll just remember it. - Oh, because they started talking about balls. Remember, she's like, Bethany's like, "Oh, Ramona, 'cause she made it right when they sat down." She said, "Ramona, is that my dress?" And Ramona was like, "Dow, look, she takes it all seriously." I'm like, "I'm kidding." And then she said, "Oh, you know what, Ramona, "you can take a joke, I mean, you got big balls." And Ramona's like, "You got big balls." I mean, that's huge balls. That's like so big. They're like goosebumps. No, they're like elephant balls. They're the biggest. They're the biggest. What's just looked at them? - You already, that scene was terrible. - Yeah, it was a big nothing. - So they're like, "We're all ever turning, "she doesn't know more words." - I know. - But then we also found that Ramona was saying that Sonia and the land were drunk, like in the drunk recently, and that Ramona's not Haim Sonia, because Sonia gets too drunk and looks bad. - You know, Sonia, she's so good at it. And, you know, a woman with class, they don't want to be seen with something like that. You know, because she's not to be a little loose, you know, and she drinks a little bit too much. - I wish we still did video, 'cause I love doing Ramona. Ramona had gone wrong. - I'm sorry, sorry, it's day last day. - I'm sorry, okay. - And then they all started talking about John, right? They started talking about how John was like, this is when they're talking about how John was hammered or whatever. - I just wrote down a note that- - Yes, Rowan, Bethany started to be- - Again, all summer long in the hands since those two were out partying until all hours in the night. - Yeah, coming home drunk, blah, blah, blah. Like we get it. - They're talking about, they're drunk shaming. Look, alcoholism, drug addiction, all of these things, obviously, they're bad. Drug use is not bad, and neither is alcohol use, okay, people? If you have a problem to the point where you're stealing out of your friend's wallet, that's a problem, or you're lying about shit, or you're driving and killing people, but we're fucking adults. Get wasted if you want to. - Rowan and Sonya are not married. They are young, well, they're not young, but they're enjoying what they have tomorrow. - They're younger, they're enjoying what they have left. If they want to go out and get shit-faced and party, who the fuck cares? - Well, I think the problem is that, I don't think this is the way I issue it, but with Sonya, Derinda, and John, they're sloppy. And no one likes us sloppy drunk. - And look, I am that friend, and I have friends who won't do that. When they know that I'm going to be going out and getting crazy, they won't do it with me, and I don't blame them, I'm great to go to dinner with, I'm going to get sloppy there. I do it in the right place, but- - So- - Usually, move along, be then, go to- - No wait, there's one thing I need to say. - Hold on one thing, something! - I just wanted to point out, Bethany, as much as she judges everybody else, like me, I'm hateful towards everybody else, I hate myself the most. Bethany, I think, is the same way. Did you see how she was making sure we all saw her eating? Really big. That was like community theater eating. She's like, thank you. - I was eating, that's a big bite, I'm eating again. I'm eating again. It happened also when they were having the seafood tower, and when the new lady walked in, before she made the comments about her being so thin, she was like, let me shove this crab claw in my mouth, so when she was introducing herself to them, she's chomping, like overly chomping. - Yeah, 'cause she can win a point. - Yeah, she doesn't have a peeking disorder. - So, which is bullshit, of course, I mean today it's called an Adderall description, but still, you go girl. - So, speaking of the new girl, so now we just go to a scene photo. - Oh, speaking of a new girl just flopped down, like a penis that won't work anymore after fitting. - My room just flopped down. We go to the, what is it called? - Flat iron district. - Flat iron district. - I don't know what that means, what does that mean? - Downtown zone. - It's just a part of, yeah, so. - Just Kelly, Kelly, we're like in Simone there. It's like around like 20, 23 minutes, what that is. - Oh, this by the river, right? - No, it's worth it. Flat iron field. - Oh, yeah, yeah. You know about one that goes down too. - The famous one. - It looks like that one. - It's like a beach. - It's not kind of like the Culver Hotel. - Yes. - Sure, we'll go with that. - So, playing the role of Krista Taeckner this season is rules, who is once again in a very similar apartment, doing like some folk cooking. - Totally folk cooking. - Her kids come in. - Oh, I like rater Joe's appetizers. Put them on a baking sheet. - I like them. - I like how they can build. - It says it's popsicle popsicle popsicle popsicle. - Oh, like that's the only way you can do this. - What are the real and jagger? - Jagger. - Jagger. - Fucking obnoxious. - Jagger. - You make your child after, you know. - You make your grandson. (laughing) And real is a hotel off the strip in Vegas. - Yeah. - I mean, come on. - Off the strip. - Hey, pen and tell if I do. - Exactly. - Exactly. (laughing) - I just can't refuse to even eat this bagel. I was like, you are so lucky to be a child to eat a bagel without worrying about the consequences. - New York bagels too. We can't get that shit here, kid. Fucking enjoy that bagel, you asshole. - But this is a big one. - This is a big one. - That is a big one. - Yeah, carps though. - This woman is an anorexic because she's giving them a pop. She's saying you can have a popsicle after you eat the bagel. What? - Thin-minded woman gives bagels. Who's giving glue to their children in 2016 when they're, you know, worrying about their weight and stuff? - It was probably Anna's, Anna being the nanny, which is different from their live-in housekeeper. - Exactly. - And then then Jules, then afterwards, the kid has like a popsicle. Jules like, you see what happened here? Look, he's having a popsicle anyway. And then dad's like, well, okay, he negotiated. Friends could negotiate. He says, I'm like, no, that's you being bad parents. Your kid is not supposed to negotiate. - Yeah. - You create the terms. And then you, he sits there and he says, damn bad y'all. - Yeah, that's called Anna has a break too, I guess. (laughing) - What an idiot. She says, well, I have two nannies, but I wouldn't ask them to do anything that I wouldn't do. You literally are. You're not doing anything that they're doing because they're there. - It is funny when she said that, when she goes out with the kids, people will see that she's the nanny. I thought that was funny. - Look what I wrote. "Dog eats off table, Ben shoots it." (laughing) I didn't notice that. He's the dog, so. - So then we go to Jordan and John. - Oh. - I don't know how they have hit, they haven't really hidden it. But John has not looked as terrible as he already looks now. I mean, this guy, what a sweet spot. - Sweat all the time. - Well, look, I'm a fat sweaty person too, please. - But this season, they're like, okay, you know what? He had a pretty sleazy edit last season, but let's just show some more. - So is this the scene where they're going out to their anniversary? - This is when they give-- - They're walking down the street. - What about this guy? She's like, give him a dollar. Give him a dollar. - And then he, okay, we have to brace down. - This is so good. - So she goes, give a dollar. He gives a five thinking that he is so hot shit and oh, the camera saw me give him a five, not a one, so I'm not a cheap, gross bastard. - He's like, hang on, give it the camera. - Then as they start to walk away, he goes, this is what we do, we're nice people or whatever. Then, under for breath, but the microphones caught it. Dorena goes like, ugh, yeah, whatever. I mean, she said something like so-- - She made it there. She didn't think she thought it was a man or two. - Okay. - I don't see that. (laughing) - She wanted to hand the coat over. - You don't take the man to do the most, it's an app. - Wait, so was she more appalled that a homeless person was talking to her? Or that John was engaging? - I think she was annoyed because she sees what we see. I mean, Dorena, this whole show, this episode, we really see how Dorena is dealing, and it's how we're feeling. The guy is just a wreck. He's acting like he deserves a purple heart for giving money to a homeless person. She's mortified. She's like, oh God. And then they go to dinner and he keeps doing this dry cleaning joke, where he's just finding a spot on her boob and then, like, getting her nose. - Yeah, that was later, that was so awesome. - So, you wanted to fucking kill him. It's like, all right, John, I'm sorry. - It's a monthly anniversary. - Is there a monthly anniversary? - Either way, I'm single, painfully single right now. A monthly anniversary, I would kill myself. If I had to fucking go to a dinner every month, I'd have. - Especially if you had to have that on top of you once in a month, oh my God. - Why does that, he have to be on top. - And the zipper, he's like, you know who he is. - He goes up, John would be good, goes down, John would be bad. - Just bad. - You know that he's on top and she's just waiting to be joined with a real love. She's like, hey, today, I'll fuck the game. (laughing) Take me. Take me. - Take me. - He's just, he's just, he is the squeeze. - Okay, so let me see. - So now we go to the zipper, Johnny be good. - Oh God, Johnny be good. Johnny be, Johnny be up. - What are you even talking about, John? Please be quiet. - So is up, Johnny be good, goes down, Johnny be bad. It was just like one of those things. I think everyone would vomit it as a simultaneous vomit across America. - Is this where, I mean, I kind of get the impression at this point, like Derinden knows their relationship is over and she, like the ship has sailed, so now she's just gonna have to watch it on rabble on TV. And she talks about like, oh, well Hannah, you know, was off at school or whatever, so maybe now it's time for John to move in with me. - Yeah. - We know that ain't gonna happen. - I think that she gets, she goes off on John. - The sad part is that if he were just like really hot and kind of like a deep, sexy voice and just so sexy, if he said that and he was hot, he would be so sexy. (laughing) Listen, it's Johnny, you're like, ugh. - You know that side? - It's like a little sadism, it's like bad as involved in whatever it is, just like. - The truth is-- - But also, he's really gross. - He is the kind of guy. - It is the kind of guy. - He's like that. - But he's like, I can't stand up for some tape that's asshole last time. - He's like, what? - You know, I love the show, when they show evidence in the past, like, you know, John's gonna say, oh, you're like, ew. But if it was like Blair or something like that, he'd be like, oh my God, he was just on the good wife. His wife got murdered and he was like crying the whole time with, like, gray in his hair, which I didn't buy. I still had a boner. - Is that weird? - I was so sorry, your child got shot, but you're so hot. - Durinda, I think that their relationship is that she just kind of abuses him. 'Cause you know how Durinda, in every seat, well, this is her second, but it's like, in so many scenes, when you see her lose it, she makes no sense. She's yelling and drunk and she is vicious. And I think that he can take it. And she's like, oh, hey, well, he can take my terrible person. I'm never gonna find someone to marry me like this, so I can't fix me and I won't try and fix him. We'll just go to dinner. - I'm not at all, I'm not a little single lady in New York, but I also have a feeling that with all these events that they constantly are going to, she doesn't want to be alone. She's one of those people who was like, I'd rather have a disgusting, slimy asshole than be blue-eyed. - Exactly. And it's like, I forget who says, Bethany or Ramona, whatever, that like, every time she comes around, feels like she's always selling John on them, which indicates that she is aware of what she is and she's insecure about it. - The problem is she's gonna have nobody backing her up on this this season because all of the women are gonna be on the same page. I mean, Ramona fucking hates him. Bethany thinks he's disgusting. And those are the two stars of the show. John's a goner. - Yeah, so now we go to a scene with Bethany at the Skinny Girl offices and she's giving me like a pep talk. She gets a pep talk like next to every single type of Skinny Girl branding. Like one moment, it's like the Skinny Girl toasters. - By the way, have you tested the lime popcorn? It's delicious. - Is it? - It is. - Oh my God, it's amazing. - What is that pep talk? - Skinny Girl, I still have something last week. - Well, so yeah, it's over there. - The popcorn's fantastic. - But I love Bethany's pep talk. She's like, you know, I don't care about you. You know, you'd be, you know, snorted coke off the desk. You could be like, - You could be like, - I don't care about this. - I guess not, whatever. I don't care. I literally like, don't tell me. Don't just come up in that yet. You can just do everything to you like, I don't care what's going on in the personal life. Like, you could literally be murdering someone on the floor. I don't care. That's just, come on with an idea. - You know, the thing is, like, do whatever you want. Like, I don't really care. The thing is new direction. Okay, they're actually gotta sell. Okay, so if you can sell it, sell it. Be great. But if you don't sell it, you're gonna die. You're gonna be out of here. Okay, the job's out. So that's it. That's what I'm saying. Okay, thanks. I was like, is that supposed to motivate people? - That's a great idea. It's gonna help for us. - And a skinny girl is the idea. There is no other idea. You're naming basically bricks that you use in your homes. - Yes. - Like, there's nothing you could... - Where else do you want to go here? - It's like, good topics. There we go. Good topics. Make it happen. - So then, Carol and Ramona, they'll go have lunch. And this is when Ramona starts battling on and on and on. And she mentions Rege, and she's mentioned Rege advanced services. She heard a Rege event, but she referred to as a regang. And I was like, no. She's really gay. Rege. Rege. Rege. Rege. - I'm sorry. I don't get it. I don't see it. - Oh, whatever. - It was Brazilian people. - It's what it means. - Oh, so stupid, Carol. - How do I play New York and stay that white? I mean, that's one of the most multi-cultural cities in the world. - I mean, she clearly lives in a building. - Yeah, she just gets in and... - You're in a bubble. - In a car, to a building, to a car, to a building to a bar. Carol complains at the end of this because Ramona just goes off on her fabulous social life. And Carol is sitting there, though, complaining that she didn't ask her anything about what's going on in her life. Well, dear Carol, nothing is going on. No, no, no. No one gives a buck. So why would there be any questions at all? - Well, I was fighting when Carol was like, "Well, I tend to suffer nesting." - She said, "Oh, you know, birds. I love birds. You know, one time I saw a bird." Some people say, "I'm like a bird." - No, but really pretty. - Like, you know, birds? You know, that's my color. And some age, right? I don't know. - And she just goes on. I know. - Then I love how Carol was like... - Has anybody ever told you to shut up a buck? - Whatever she said, she was like, "Be quiet." - What? - She said, "Is this how you act on dates?" - Yeah, with men. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Well... - One time, somebody gave me some good advice, "Smileball and talk less." - Yeah. - My favorite line to Ramona's battle session was, "No, he has a great idea for that." - Oh, my God. - An app. - Yeah. - When Carol was asking her, "How do you have all these houses, don't you?" My cousin Jenna wrote me. I mentioned Jenna last day, but she wrote me in text, and she was like, "Did Ramona just say she had enough assets to earn the property?" Because that's how she talks, you know? She's like, "Well, at Mario, I had enough assets to get the house in the thing." Like, "Oh, my God, she did, but I guess it was assets." - And then she also slipped in the park that, you know, she kept the house in the Hampton. She kept the apartment in New York, and she still has plenty of cash. - Yeah. - So you're the richest of them all, except for that. - So this is on the night before I don't get to wait for the torrents to come out, so I have to watch her live on Bravo and see commercials. What is Jennifer Garner and a goddamn Capital One commercial? Well, that is the saddest thing I've ever seen in my life. Okay, that's all right. So then we go to this restaurant, Catch, where we have Bethany meeting Bethany and her, and her guy. - Let's talk about her hot-ass boyfriend. That's an upgrade from Jason Fucking Hopi. - Yeah. - It was hard. - Yeah. - This guy looked like weird, bloodshot eyes. I don't know. Like, he spent a while, and I have fruit in the back, but the rest of it, I don't know. Jason, you have these faces, not that cute. This boy was way hotter. - What? - Way hotter. - Kind of had, like, Saint Bernard face. - What is that Beethoven? - Oh, my God. - I don't have Beethoven eyes. - Yeah. - But then, I don't know, Beethoven was cute, but, you know, Bravo, I love your couch. - So they, today, they walk in, they sit down, and journalist is like, "Oh, my God, love your, love your top." Like, you better back it up, but that's up. You better back it up. - To Bethany, in the confessional, I'm just wearing a white shirt. - Yeah. - What? She's trying to compete with me. I mean, look at that. - She's in, like, a feather diamond thing. - Yeah. - Well, I think that this goes back to what you were saying a little bit earlier. - We are setting the tone for the way that shit is going down between Bethany hating on John, between Bethany going after Derinda. - Yes. - It's just going to be a bloodbath. She always comes in, and it's like a medium mommy when I was in shit, and she's like, "Oh, you know, I take it, I take it for kids." Like, you know, it should be a full-time job. Like, "Hey, wow." Like, that's a great, a great original line there. No one's ever said that before. - Jules came in with this fucking script for her first big group scene at a dinner table. And when she started going off about, "I'm, you know, the stay-at-home mom," and Bethany is like, "Yeah, I have a child too. I get it. I get it." And she continues to, like, go on, and she just fully embarrasses herself, and the husband, I think, is just sitting there going, like, "Oh my God, I can't believe we signed up for this." - He's like, "Well, she is way too hot for me, so I'll listen." - He's like, "At least I won't get dragged into it." That's, you know, Bethany's like, "Well, she's in this land, you know, here? R2T2." [laughter] - This was hilarious. - I know. - I know. - And Derinda goes, and John's Chewbacca. [laughter] - And I'm dying. I was living for that. - Oh, my God. I was living for that. - Yeah, so this woman is too much, because Bethany was going to try her thing, like her Erica Jane shame, where she's like, "Seth, okay, you can get from here." "Oh, do you work?" She's like, "Yes, I work. I raise two children." She's like, "Oh, okay, I get it." "No, it is the hardest job in the world." And if I was paid for, you know, if I was paid for what I do for my children, I mean, I'd probably make more money than all of you. - I know how hard it is about-- - I'd appreciate a popsicle situation. [laughter] - And then again, cut to Bethany, I think saying something about, like, "Oh, will she probably just has his credit card, and does not know how to do a fucking job to save her life?" - And by the way, she's an arrested car. - Oh, she immediately started-- and of course, she even has to plug herself while she's downing somebody else's-- - She reminds me of my mom. - Well, she's like, "I wrote a book." - Oh, that's right. - Never too thin or something like that. And she's like, "That is too thin." That's what I mean? [laughter] - Yeah, that's what I mean. It's like she's plugging it while she's totally degrading this other woman. - Exactly. - She knows what she's doing. I give her props for that. So I also wrote, "This is when John did, like, five times, this stupid, like, got a spot in your shirt. No, you don't. Joke to Durindo. It was so, like, mad." - And then Bethany is living for it, because then again, Bethany's throwing shade already. - Yes. - And the confessional is like, "Do I have to sit here for 20 minutes and listen to jokes about fucking dry cleaning? - Yeah, she's like-- - Oh, Rosie's dragging it. - Rosie's dragging it. [laughter] - Every joke's about dragging it. They kept the job being like, "Oh, well, you know what you got to do? Did you put your, like, fabric guard down, whatever?" I'm like, "Oh, my gosh, she's right all the time." - And then she has to look at it, and she goes, "You can come over and do it." - Yeah, he's like, "If you ever need anything in your home, and Durindo's sitting there next to her, just dying, just going, "This season is about my relationship going to shit, and everybody giving me shit for it." - And then Bethany starts with her again, too. Well, you remember that, you know, the sink of the mic, I mean, you went down, I mean, you guys, you got a drink, like, you would, like, you kept it, you're like, "Okay, everybody makes mistakes, Bethany, like, so what, what stays in the half, you know, what happens in the half, stays in the half, it's Bethany." And then Bethany just starts hammering her, and you see Durindo like, "Bethany, please, why are you doing this? Yeah, get ready." Because Durindo is not going to take that shit. She will grab Bethany by that hair, and just start bashing her into a telephone pole. It's going to start with that. - I am so glad that New York City is back. It is, to me, it's just, it's the best, it's best because I think the characters are, there's just no other cast that has these sort of narrative profiles, so you can come close. There's an argument for that, but to me, New York City is the best. - Any one of these things happened on Beverly Hills, it would be a whole season. - Bethany called someone, like, an alcoholic and an arnoretic, like, they're in the real thing. - And this is really 20 seconds of episode one. - Yeah. - And they, and honestly, New York City has really hilarious fights on a consistent basis that don't feel like they're contrived, just like their neuroses come out. - These women in New York are not acting. - Yeah. - They are, I believe, more than any of the other cast they're being there, they're authentic selves on camera. - Exactly. And it all takes place in the backdrop of, like, y'all, sort of, like, glass, sophistication. You know, they're always at, like, nice restaurants, everyone is generally on this cast, very well cast. - They have money. - They have money. They go to the Hamptons. You know, it's not, you know. - It's not she by charade. - Exactly. So you just can see, it takes place in a different, more elevated world, you know, they're just petty as everyone else, and they, the characters are just one of a kind. I always think it's, you know, the land, one of a kind, Vermono, one of a kind, Bethany, one of a kind. - So many as much as I hate her. - So many of them. - It's not, like, just another version of, you know. - They're going after so many people for being drunk this season. It's like the season of illness. - Out of the gates. - Out of the gates. - And then Bethany's, Bethany's victimhood, like, you know, I didn't have a problem with me. And Bethany said, "So what about your divorce?" And she's like, "Well, you know, my health." And he's like, "She starts going off." And he's like, "No, no. You're a divorce." - Yeah. - And he, he kept asking her over and over, she's like, "Hello? I just answered that. Hello? Are you here? Are you drunk? Are you on drugs?" - No, she starts doing it to Amby. - So good. - Oh. - Okay. - Well, the founder movies. - We don't really have all that much. It was the finale. - Yeah. - The finale reunion. - So. - Lala eating ass. - I love my notes. - Oh, my gosh. - I love that Lala's like, Lala's like, she lost a friend because she gave his ass and then told me that James Kennedy, like, calm down, Lala. - Well, what were the big things in this? Let's just skim through. 'Cause this is so stupid. It's like Katie's fighting about not inviting people again. - Yeah. - I mean, it's all kind of the same shit. - It's a Christian admitting that she had sex with them. - Let's see. I have, let's see. James, she really cracks me up when she's talking about how, when she first, uh, very sad to have you with, with Stasi, she's like, "Well, we were looking at each other, so do you breath in the eyes and freak me out?" - Yeah, we're looking anytime, and it breaks me out, and then I'm like, "Okay, we're friends." But my special stuff, and like, but I didn't know from her, for like three months, I was like, "It's true. She wants to see us and make it." - And then you see Lisa going, "Yes." - Yeah. - I told you. - Stasi is one of those girls that doesn't need you to reply immediately to a text, but Shayna immediately needs her skin. - Yeah. - Which I actually believe. I believe I don't fight. I believe that she needs an immediate response. I believe that Stasi needs one, too, because if you don't, she's going to logic you can be like, literally? Like, I just, she checks me back. Like, how does that make me feel? Like literally, she's a little more, it needs to be jumped in a bat of acid, seriously. - It's going to be my birthday in two months. - Okay. - Fuck you. - Um, this, I think this episode, the big, the big thing was really about James, about how he was just such an asshole, and like, you just kept them making all these awful comments the entire time. - Such as I'm going to go, my dream life, or my dream in life is to DJ a Coachella. - Yeah, my dream life is to DJ that Coachella. And then he'd always say that's one thing, and it's like, James, just act as your big, just, by the way, I apologize, but I apologize, you stupid, basic, big, big, huge, up bat. - I loved when he pointed at all of them on the other side of the aisle, and was just like, asshole, asshole, asshole, asshole, because guess what, he's right. - Yeah. - Yeah, but he, he has a victim complex as if like, he wouldn't be an asshole if he were pushed to that degree by all of these other people. - I'm sorry, but Kristin and Katie are the worst people on TV. - Katie is really, you know how I'm really sick of Katie. - You know, like, Kristin at least provides that a change of value. - Kristin is hilarious. - Katie is nothing. - Yeah, Katie is not only like a sack of rags, I mean, all she does, like, disapproved, because you were like, like, thanks, I was like, trying to have a party from my blog and that beauty store, and I'm like, thanks for making me look unprofessional, like, when you crash through James. It's like, whoa, like, what the hell, she just wanted to start with the fight. It's like, yeah, well, thanks, because now I look sweet. - Yeah, I was even on this a lot, I'm like, well, that happened at the moment you signed the contract with the song. - Whoa, whoa. - And said you were coming in. - We were like, yeah. - We were like, yeah, I grew. - We were blog blogs party. - Yeah, I loved Andy. - Andy Cohen asked the question to Katie, that was so voted, that I actually ended up laughing. He was like, it's like, Katie, why was your blog on such a tough ticket? - Oh, he did say that. - I don't remember because it's like, it's just a blog blog, and like, you're trying to like, get interest, don't interest, why are you keeping the door closed for sweet questions? - It's such a Katie answer to. She's like, well, it was just like, trying to be nice, because, I mean, I didn't want people to hear about it, and then it's to be a secret, so it's just like, trying to be nice by telling them they weren't invited. If you stupid count, you are so rude, I mean, that everybody on this show deserves what you do. - Why is she engaged? - Well, I mean, what do you think about that guy? There's a lot of people who are like, he must be gay, he's just gay to me. - I think he's weak, and he likes her enough. - She's not even attractive. - I think, well, I mean, she's not bug. - Okay, this is gonna sound bad. - There's something wrong with that now. - Well, the rumor is that she fell through it, she fell through a roof. - Someone once even messaged us and said that, the real story with Katie is that one time she like, fell through like a roof. - Well, guess what, I'm not impressed, because the girl on last summer, a big brother got hit in the face by a train, so I don't remember if that bitch got hit in the face with that train. - Okay, I'm gonna say something like that, so... - I'm gonna say something like that. - I'm gonna say something like that. - I'm gonna say something so snobby, okay, I think Katie, you know, she's pretty, she's nice looking, but if you're gonna put her on the scale of like, reality stars or like, quote-unquote, LA hot, she doesn't really stack up. - Although, only reason she's big is she's normal, the only reason that's even in her looks are even in issues, because her and Katie are like, "Sorry, like, if you want to work it, sorry, you have to be hot, like we're models." - Yeah, right, right, right, right. - And again, when the whole fucking show started, she was a bitch like that, and guess what, now that you've put on for you, you need to just get up, she's still like that. - That's what kills me. It's like, her ego is still there. - For someone with a go-to-go fashion blog, she has... - What the fuck was she wearing? - She has her real shoes. - So she has put on some weight, and we're not gonna, I'm not gonna fashion her for that, but I am gonna shame her for her terrible ways of trying to disguise it, like, with crazy hair, with these weird things. - But we do want to show her why she gets all those bad tattoos on her hands, because she thinks it's gonna distract from something else, but the tattoos that she and Kristin have on her hands gross me. - My only ish with her is that she's mean, and she doesn't realize to buy it, like, she's a waiter. - She's like, "No, the waiter can't be mean," but she's mean, she shames everybody around her for all this shit, and she doesn't have anything herself. It's almost sad, but she's mean, so I don't care. - But she's engaged. - So we should also talk about... - We should also talk about... - We should also talk about Ariana, because they don't discuss... - Who is my favorite on the entire show? - There was discussion about Ariana, and this other comedian who Ariana dismissed, and so Ariana, I love which goes like, "I don't buy a camera, I call myself a photographer." And then Kristin's response was, "Well, what does that do with my comedy?" And it's the idea of, like, Kristin's brand of comedy. - Why the way Ari and comedic comedy is ever has a show in LA, we are going. - Yeah, we have. - So out of view. - Are you kidding? - Yeah. - Ariana does too. - I want to see Ariana, but I just... - Kristin is so stupid. - Kristin does stand up and sketch. - Well, sketch here... - But she doesn't take it seriously. - Not kind of improv got so trendy hair, all the hipsters are doing improv, because of GCD, and it is, the agents make the young models go there, and so improv classes, I've been to every school, you know, I love that shit. And improv classes are all filled with stupid fucking model/actors who are doing it because they have to have it on their resume, because they're commercial agents make them. - And I'm upset because I've always wanted to take a diptrop class, but now you can't go. Well, now I can't go because it's... First of all, it's like really hard to get into them, they fill up like that, and it's also like... There's something... - It's a couple thousand dollars too. - Yeah. - But how could you not be better than her? - Well, you never know. - You'd be crazy. - I could have it. - I could show up on the spot. - Improv is, like, white nerds. - I know. - No offense. - No, I know. - But I mean, in a good way. Like, why... - It's still a bit of white nerd. - You'll get so much pussy in the crowd. - I'm playing rock. - Yeah, I am. - I'm actively trying to recruit you for a Saturday's or a ten game. I'm a white nerd. I get it. - I'm true. - Can you at least ruin it? I want to play with least ruin it too. - Okay. - Sorry. - So then also... - So that's our whole game. - So then... - So then there's also talk about James and Chris Dan and Pump and everything. Was that when he fucked her on the hood of a car? - Yeah, there was that discussion. - I love it. Like, was it in the car? On the hood? It's like, well, it was in the car. Like, that makes it so much better. - And he does... I'm sorry, you drive a one series. - Yeah, we can't even... - Big in that. - It couldn't even work out. - So in addition to, like, fat shaming and alcohol shaming and everything, we're also BMW series shaming. - Yeah. - Well, and on top of that, too, when she was like, "Well, I've been home for dinner, for drinks because I saw a lot of me in him and he's like, "I'm used to it to get patches off of me baby." And I was like, "Yeah, I'm so gross." And then they fucked her up. - And then all the girls were like, "Ugh." - And then Stasi, Stasi got... - That is so gross. Like, I cannot believe you, James. He's like, "Well, we couldn't go to fit. Stasi, 'cause you were that." - That's all her fault. - Yeah, Stasi's fault for being in her own car. - I cannot hate James. - I don't know why. - I don't either. - I think on this show, it's hard for me to actually have hatred for the people 'cause they're so young. I feel weird. - Why doesn't they all... - You can hate old ladies easily. - They're all good. - They're all good. - I mean, at least I'm in the same ballpark, but these kids, I just feel weird sniping it. - I don't know. - I don't know. - I just have a hard time, because when we met James, he was so friendly and so charismatic. He's like, "Oh, he was cool." And then he really is awful. Like, whether or not you want him, he's awful, awful. - Why? - Because he talks about having sex with girls. - Oh, he's so stupid. - He's so stupid. - He's so stupid. - He thinks like, "Oh, he really enjoys the chores of life." - He really demeans him and then he acts as like, "I didn't go out of it. I just called you that because you wouldn't need to be." It's like, it's really terrible. - He tries to justify his disgusting kids. - It's really bad. - It's really bad. - All the guys treat women. - Really massage them. - Right. It's because then Jax is sitting up there just trying to throw shade at James. - Respect women. - Yeah. - What the fuck are you talking about? - Exactly, Jax. Well, then I love when Jax and James start fighting, and it's there. I'm like a pissing contest. - The best line of the entire night is, "I want to punch you in your fat throat." - Yeah. - "I want to punch you in your fat throat." - And then they were like, you know, really posturing. And then someone's, "Oh, they're not going to play." But then someone, I don't even know who says, "Yeah." But I do think they're going to have sex with him. - I think it was a lot. And I was living for him. - That was amazing. And then James-- - You should just bang it out. - And then James is just like solemnly texting. And then he's like, "You text." And he's like, "Yeah, because you're not even asking about the album." Like, "Oh." So it was ridiculous, but then I got more angry when Andy got angry at him. Because Andy was like, "Are you serious?" And I wanted to turn to Andy and just be like, "We're at the vendor pump for Union Part 3. This is your job. Are you serious?" - Yeah. - You just laugh at all the rest of America. - I'm just saying. You just kind of talk about punk sessions. - He's so mean that the kids on man are punk rules. It's hilarious. Like, he has zero respect for them. And it cracks me up. - But I think the last notable thing that I wrote down was when they were-- - Was that right? - Oh, yeah. There was that too. So we should talk about that after this. But when they were talking about Lala's reaction at the original party, and everyone was basically like, "Yeah, that's how we're going to." And you're like, "She just said what you're all feeling." And the kid goes, "But what about how I was feeling?" - Shut up, Katie. - Shut up. - With your free thing that you're only doing 'cause you're on a TV. So to a man, she doesn't even want to marry you. Most likely won't. - That was cool. - That was Lala was such an asshole there. Even though I agree with everything she didn't said. But her apology was somewhat genuine. It was like, "I was raised like this. This is not me. I truly am appalled by my behavior." And I feel like she got all the digs in and then got away with it. - She did. I love her. - I love her. - Go, you poor ass girl. It's working for you. It's the hot new diet. - Well, also, there's so me to her, and she had a right to say, "Shut the fuck up." Because those girls were mean and then crashed a party and then talked for 20 minutes, drunk and lame. Kristen was standing up there, wasted two. Like, why is Lala? - Yeah, they're saying they're like, "Well, your grandparent's there. There was family." I'm like, "Well, then don't drag them onto your low rent grotto." - Yeah, I sure grandma signed a release. - I'm not sure, are we really giving a pass to the people who created the cast of Matter Pump rules? - Thank you. Fuck them. If anybody deserves to get shot in my face, it's those people, right? - Yeah. - So then, I think the last thing-- - Saucy, I'm a Lisa. - Yeah. - So what did you think about that? - Well, it was interesting. I was surprised to hear that Lisa paid the 900th and then let the guy walk without getting the tea. - Yeah, so my whole thing there was I was kind of leaning towards Saucy. - Yeah, I think it's because I was having LVP hate from Beverly Hills that was like riding over for me. - Yeah. - But if Lisa didn't have this guy sign some kind of paperwork when she was paying him off, that makes me think like, "Well, she wants to sit up here and pretend that she's like this amazing business woman who's running this TV show and all these restaurants." Like, that's kind of stupid. - Right. - Yeah, but the thing that kills me was Saucy is she's like, "Why don't you make them sign a contract? Who's gonna write this contract, Saucy?" - Yeah, exactly. - She's gonna have to hire lawyers that are a couple hundred dollars an hour and then you're bitching at her for how she's paying the person off, like, ungrateful little psychopath. - Right. - Just say thank you. - And as soon as the guy handed over the tea, there's copies everywhere. - She wanted that shit off. - She talked about fingering herself in the back of the car like it was the funniest thing ever. She wouldn't care if that thing was like, I mean now, especially since, you know, like, you know, mid 30s have hit or whatever. Well, she says she's not there yet. - She says she's not there yet. - She says whatever young mom thinks hit her personality this year. I'm sure she wants that fin tape of her fingering herself. Sorry. But I mean, but I wish I had an iPhone when I was 20 then. - Oh, you kidding? - I was being shit. - Whitney and jail. Saucy probably. - That's true. - She's truly never grateful. And she is a spoiled brat at the end of the day. - She admitted it though. - She admitted that she's selfish. - She did, yes. But that's why she can't just say, "Thank you." And it hasn't gotten down, Lisa paid for it, whatever. Lisa has earned the right. If Lisa has in fact been saying, I think this, she's earned the right. Finish me $100 for your mask that he has. - And I love that Lisa ends it like mine. - You're all a bunch of idiots. - Yeah. - She's like, "I love all of you. Even you." - Done. - And further. I'll set on Beverly Hills. You always have to get the last word, Lisa. - Yeah. - She does. She does. That is part of what Saucy operates. - Yeah, that's true. - Okay, so let me ask you guys this. Vanderpump Rules has been so hot, I think. Season one or whatever, two and three and four. I think they've been amazing. Lisa is clearly riding this wave. The ratings are great. She's having issues with a lot of people on Beverly Hills. Where do you things stand? Obviously, Vanderpump is going to get renewed. Lisa and Kent will still be at the helm there. Is Lisa still part of Beverly Hills? Like, where do you just answer your odd question? - So where do you think that has the last word? That she leads, okay, the last word. - That's what I think too. Because she, I think she would have quit. Because now people are saying she must be quitting if she's going after evolution and tweets. - No. - Like if she's doing all that stuff, she's saying, fuck off. You've got some marriage. - Well, yeah, look at that last blog. So do you think that she's done with Beverly Hills? - I don't think Lisa will leave on a victim season. I think she'll leave. - On a strong season, okay. - She'll leave when she's, you know, 'cause next year, she's gonna be the hero. - And everyone will love her again. - And then she'll quit. - Okay. - I don't think she's even gonna quit. Beverly Hills is in trouble though. I mean, Catherine, God bless her. She hasn't spoken. She's been fine. But she's an idiot. She's gotta go. She has no life. Erica, I know that people are never, I know. - She's still not doing anything. - They like that she's doing her proud O act, that she's like a proud hoe, and they're like, yes, girl. You know, it's those people. - Those points, yes. - But she's not funny. She's not interesting. She has nothing going on. - I think that she has secured her return. I don't think that Catherine has. - You're coming Yolanda. - I think Yolanda and Rina have nothing in their own lives. What is gonna happen? - No, I agree. - I agree that it's in trouble. I don't actually, I don't... Look, they built a whole season around this ship. - You know, when... - People are really losing it. Not because of any anger that they really feel, but they're losing it at the boredom of having the same fight about people who aren't even involved, and things that everyone knows are even a real fight anyway. I think people... It's good when they're mad and they're really into it. But they're not. They're just like, you two are idiots. You're fighting about nothing, like literally every single week. - So do you think that with Beverly Hills ending next week, obviously Yolanda... I think she's in jeopardy for next season. Kim and Brandy will probably be making appearances in the finale. Do you think there's any chance of Brandy and/or Kim coming back full-time dancers? - No. Well, Andy said no. - Because of Kim's challenges. - Because of Kim's challenges. - I think Kim is probably too much reliability. - Brandy is... - I think the audience played out. - I think Brandy shouldn't come back. But I think what they really should do. - Yeah, how do we fix this? - I think they should do the first... For the first time ever, bring back everybody from season one. - I was just going to say... - Because they are... - And Taylor... - And Taylor... - It's just off the fucking deep end of these days. - Right, it's great because she has no money, and it's fun to see the juxtaposition there. - You can have Sam as a friend of... - Exactly. - Maybe at happy health of the mix. Just so you can really have someone to beat up on that one. - And I think we've seen success in the past. Obviously, Luan is back full-time this season. You know, Luan got bumped to friend of. And she made a comeback. - She learned her lesson. - She learned her lesson. - She learned her lesson. - Shooray disappeared, came back as friend. I guarantee you, Shooray is full-time dance season. - She is everything. - She said it was full-time. - 100% agree. Thank God she was there for the entire free union. So I think that really especially Taylor and Camille only to be back, I don't know about Adrian, but I would love to see all of that. - I think that Taylor was... - I don't know about Adrian, but I would love to see her. - I would love to see Taylor. The reason why she was not on board this season was she started telling people she was going to come back as a housewife or whatever. - And they shut that day like, "No, you're not." - Well, because she shot that one scene. 'Cause she shoots like a scene every year. - 'Cause they can't check her, so they're like, "Look, I'm on again." - But they're just a friend of her. - Right, and Adrian's like sitting there drinking an iced tea, like having a drink with Eileen. It doesn't mean it means nothing for next season, but I think that the fans want the originals back, and with the series in Jeopardy, not in Jeopardy, have gone away, but like, no storylines, you have to bring that to the audience. - Because the original cast would be so good. - It's so good. - They're not only Richard, it's Richard's hair. - Right. - They're very rich, and so that made it fun to watch that part. But they were also semi-real. I mean, none of that stuff was... - We watched Camille. - We watched Camille's life fall apart. - Yes, and Camille was trying to be fake, but she, her real asshole-ish-ness was coming through so hard. - Yes. - And it all fell apart, it was delicious. - Yes. I hope they do that. I would love that. - I feel like they have a big, I think in Beverly Hills, I believe it's probably have a uphill battle, trying to find good personalities. There are so many starbuckers out here. I mean, everyone's going to have stars in their eyes, but if I'm putting a cast in front of them, regardless of where you are in the country. But here in Beverly Hills, oh my God, you have a bunch of starbuckers, skull diggers, people who just want to promote their blind and shopping bags. - At this point too, I think that, and I think a lot of it rides on the Savannah pump and who these people want to work with. At this point, the show has been on long enough, and with the Vanderpump rules being a hit for the network, I think you've got to get some stuff cleared with Lisa before this happened. - What about Diana? - Diana. - Diana. - Diana. - Diana. - Diana. - Diana. - Diana. - Diana. - Ooh. - Isaac Dicks. - That's what I'm saying. - Sonia will tell you how to do it right. - Well, I will never eat my word, but I will eat it. - Here's a question. - Here's a question. - A theoretical. What if Leah Blackjorn go housewise? - Why not? - I would be amazing. - We all miss Miami. We miss her from Miami. She has real money. - Yeah. - She's great on TV. - And she has a house in Los Angeles. - The Vanderpump would, they're already friends, so they would laugh at it, and Kyle would get defended, or offended, because Leah would say something like, "I must get a lot of air in the brain." - You know, something like that. - Kyle would lose it. - Right. - But I was sure the very least maker or friend of, sort of like to work her to make this game. Fans may have a hostile reaction, because a lot of people who have hatred towards Miami, they don't even know why they're angry, because they saw someone, season one, which should not be counted. - Oh, and season two was everything. - Season two was one of the best seasons of all the housewives. - Yes, agreed. - So, they can't be like, "Oh, Leah's the new household." 'Cause people would be like, "Ah, it's a minus." You know what this show's got over here? What if they introduce her as a friend of, and took Leah or her in? - 'Cause she lives here during the summer anyway, and that's what makes you. - Yeah, I'm sure she would move your, if they were-- - She has different shows, so she doesn't have an in-automatically with Kyle. - That's the most hot. - I mean, with evolution, 'cause that's the most hot. - Yeah. - Oh, yes. - But who knows? I mean, I just want to-- - I like when they're somewhat real. I know that sounds saying, "That sounds so stupid," 'cause Lisa's so over-the-top, that she's real life. She wanted them to call her pinky. I mean, she's really that cuckoo. If anything, she's more normal. - Me, right. - On the show. Because this one isn't like Orange County, where you could just know they're making it up, or know it's all a lie, know that this girl's just a hoe, trying to sell Tupperware. It's not as fun here for some reason. It's one struck gold in a different way. - You're right. - You're right. - What a way to end it. That's my favorite thing to hear. - You guys, we did it. - Matt, we love you. - Thank you. - Thank you for coming. - You're so great to spend time with you again. - Well. - And also being all together in the same room. - I know you. - We have to do this for often. This is really great. I actually, really, I love the energy of what we're all together. - I thought I was going to punch both of you today. - I love that. - We actually were all kind of on the same page. - We were. And I kind of came around. I mean, maybe Lisa Rema does have some flaws. - No, I, she has, well, she has flaws. And Lisa then has flaws. But you know what? I think it boils down to a simple misunderstanding, misinterpretation. And unfortunately, there are people who have their own access to grind. We're putting these women against each other. - Arendas doing it though? - Well, arendas doing it though? - Oh, no, no. - I mean, stop. - I mean, I mean, you're lying. - Because, yeah. I don't even. - Listen, I think Yolanda's full of shit is the point. Period. We all agree. Like, on that, everyone who watches this show is like, okay, we agree. Yolanda's full of shit. - Yeah, we give a thing on. - And at the end, they're on the same page. - Right now, we're going to have, come on to the podcast and clarify everything. And we will, we'll give you a watch or crap instead of the session. You bring the croissants and we'll bring. And everything will be sorted out. - And one request for Bravo. Plinks with these Bravo blogs. Please bring back the option to comment. Because the most amazing thing used to be when they started these people just being like, fuck you, better pop in. - Crazy, Santa, yes. I need that back. In the meantime, thank you everybody for listening. - Thank you. - Watch whatcroppings.com, watch whatcroppings.com for all our links, come to Facebook and patreon.com/watchwatchwatchwatch to subscribe all the bonus episodes. - Bye. - Bye. - Bye. - This episode, we are reunited with one of our best friends and former co-host Matt Whitfield of Yahoo Entertainment. You can find Matt @lifeonthemlist. I'm just making this little pre-note to warn you, we are doing this in my apartment with one microphone. So of course, the audio sucks. This is basically us partying together, talking shit. And it sounds cuckoo bird. So I know you don't come here for the professional quality of our podcast. But yeah, this is another one that is super fun because we are just partying. One day, we'll get like a really nice professional setup. We'll have multiple mics all plugged in, no background noise, et cetera. Today is not that day. 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