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After show, we talked to them in the beginning just about themselves and their shows, and then we'll move on to Vanderpump Rules Reunion and Uncensored and then it's on to Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. We recorded this in my apartment, huddled on my pleather sectional in the heat. It was hot as hell, and we couldn't turn on the air conditioner because obviously it would be too noisy, but we were just using one general mic, so we're huddled around it, we're all sweating balls, and of course, as this is Watch what Crap is, it's Gardener Day. So that fucker passed by here with 10 different instruments, all making noise. So I'm sure you're going to be shocked at the level of professionalism in this podcast. As is tradition, we have people over, we want to impress, and we make total noisy idiots of ourselves. So thank you, Julie, thank you, Brandy. You guys, find them, watch their shows, they are hilarious, and those are our soul sisters right there. Thank you guys for doing our show, and thank you guys for listening to our show. Enjoy! Yes, that thumping sound you hear every once in a while is us swinging back, skinny girl martinis, and then slamming them back down on the table with the microphone, classy. [Music] So welcome you guys. Oh, hi. Thank you for being in my lovely apartment. It's the first time I've been here, and you both here. I mean, welcome to my home. Welcome. I'm the gay theory thing you've added. We're all sitting around Ronnie's sectional, sort of like we're in the starting over house, you know, and we have dealers here too. Do you guys ever watch starting over? Do you remember that show? I remember that show. It was in Yama Van Zant, one of the life coaches on that show. Yes, she was. Yes, she was. Give it a little force on that show. Yes, she was. How did anybody ever get fixed on starting over? No. I don't think anybody ever got fixed. I don't think Yama has ever fixed anyone. Yeah, that's the thing. That's the thing. Yama. All she does is make do like very literal therapy. I remember watching an episode of starting over where there was that woman Jill who was on it. Do you remember Jill? No. She was like, very large. They're very large. Oh, okay. Which actually has nothing to do with the story, but I was just trying to paint a picture. And she was having issues about something. And Yama was like, the problem is that you are like, you are like suing yourself or something like that. So she had Jill going for it. Oh, wait. I saw that one. Yeah. I didn't know it was Jill. The judge was Delorese. Oh my God, I totally saw that. And Jill was our trial. It was her former self question for her life. I remember it was a mannequin with like a little scarf and a hat that represented old Jill and New Jill was like prosecuting old Jill. So wait, was the mannequin old Jill or New Jill? I think the old, I think it was old Jill because she was on trial for everything. And Delorese was the judge. And I think Yama may have been the lawyer. I'm not sure. I don't remember who was the lawyer who was the lawyer. But that was Yama's specialty doing shit like that. Also like, you know, you have to go to a funeral. Here we are. Oh, it's, it's your, it's your cell. Oh, yeah. It's like, oh, what are you gonna give to your judge yourself now? And then they were like, all that kind of shit. Yeah, I saw an episode of Yama fix my life with, I don't even remember who she was trying to fix. But they, they said that they were having issues. They were like, well, I had a very painful marriage. And, you know, I put that book back on the shelf. And so then the next scene is them in a bookstore shows. Well, because you put that book back on the shelf, I've taken you to a bookstore. I was like, Yama, how would that fix anything? Oh, my God. So we're sitting around on my sectional and the doors are open. So the gardeners out there, you'll hear that. Very nice doing a great job. They're all day long. I hope we do this. It's usually a leaf blower. So I'm glad for the right. But of course, right when we start, it comes right to the door. It's the sound of Gerald's Vatican along the way back. So we had to turn off the air conditioning and stuff. So I'm just going to sweat all over everybody. Yeah, it's fun. Welcome to your comfort level. Yeah, great. So I want to ask you about, um, I want to ask you about your life, guys. Oh, how can we fix that? I haven't been in Regalma. So people's couch, obviously, how did that come about? How did people's couch come about? Well, you know how the show came about, how did it come about for you? But you guys auditioned, right? Yes, we did. Well, we'll get into that in a moment. I want to hear about what you guys did. I'm going to tell you about how our audition was. I think you probably auditioned on the beginning, before it ever came on. Yes. So that was when we did, where we've been on since the beginning. Right. Did you do like a Skype interview too, right? Yeah. Yeah. But really, I always tell this story. So everyone's heard it a million times, but I'll say it again. Um, they sent, I'm sure as you guys know, um, it was on like a casting site. And so, and I don't do those casting sites just because they're annoying and get me suppressed. I don't even do social media. So I'm certainly not going to worry about everything that's casting that I don't have fucking access to. So, and it's usually like West Side Story National Tour. No. So they sent me, um, Julie and, and our, another friend, Johnny. They like both sent me the casting. They emailed it to me. And the casting said, didn't say it was Bravo. It said you had to watch TV with your friends in your living room. Um, for, for like a show where people watch TV. But it was for three weeks for free. Yeah. Yeah. I barely went up by the time I got that. Yeah. No offense. No, no. Oh, yeah. I think they just, you, the person whose house it was got paid. We were going to get a small amount of money to split three ways. Right. Over the course of like three weeks, we'd be like four hours a day. I don't know. Right. That was exactly. But basically that's initial. Yeah, the initial casting was like three weeks for free. And I was like, Oh, hell no, son. I was like, delete, delete. Yeah. And so basically I, I ended up like Julie'll do anything. She'll, she's the kind of person that will be offended. She's not making 25,000 or will work for free and, and never say word. So she, you never know. She could be making a hundred thousand and be like, they don't have parking for us. Like weird things will set her off. That's true. I was like, I had an epiphany and I was like, let's just. Let's just do it. And so we ended up, it was basically for free. I mean, after you, you know what I mean? It was like the stipend of money was to use your home, which I think I don't even know. I think we split it. But after we filled out like all the forms that we had to fill out was like not even worth it. It was like we were doing like a mortgage trying to get at like a certain mortgage. But so that was the audition. We did the Skype call. Yeah. And then we did, um, did we do? Oh, they, then they came. Yeah, they came. Right. Yeah. That's what we did. We did the Skype call. Yeah. And then they came and we went, we set up at, uh, we had a, originally had a third comos for like the first year or so. So we did it his place and, um, they, they had like, they had like a video. Yeah. Someone's dead. They're coming to spray the car. Yeah. Um, so they, um, uh, so they came and then they had like a, sort of like a montage of TV shows we had to watch and we had to react to them. Getting to the house interview is big with a lot of. That's where we, that's where we messed it up. Well, we don't go to enough auditions. So you know how and I lay it every, but every audition you go to, they're like, that was so good. They're like the most supportive mother in the world and you always leave feeling like, I always leave feeling like a birthday. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They were like, you guys are great. You guys are great. And then when we talked about the money, I remember like, so this is how much is like, yeah, but you know what? You never know. You might get a spin off if you're really popular. And I was like, don't try to attend me with your. They did. But then you guys did it. I was like, no, I was getting a spin off people's couch and then you guys went and did it. Well, we didn't get a spin off. But yeah. We kind of got opportunities. We did. That's true. You got up to you. Those asking questions to the Vanderpump rules people. I mean, certainly like the first, the first three week run and then even the next one, it was all like a Twitter competition. Like, who's going to get the spin off? That was like everyone's thing. So then when it became clear, it's like, not only is no one going to get a spin off, when no one's even going to make a dollar on this shit. But then it was so, yeah, I mean, the Vanderpump thing was amazing. We were like, not expecting it. Yeah, that was, that was, that's really cool. Oh, so you didn't go to them and pitch that? They came down and said, do you want to do that? Do you want to audition? Oh. So we didn't just, yeah, we didn't just get that. But we had to go and do a go ruling audition. You did? I think it was the same that you probably went to them more like we love these, we love this stupid show. We'll make fun of it after. No. Oh my God. No. Did you imagine? We never, we pitched everything and nothing. No one wants to make anything that we pitched. No. Yeah. It was actually the Vanderpump production company, the production company that is Beverly Hills too, that, that was like, let's do an after show. Because they do the, they do botched and they do it that botched after show with Heather DeBrow. Oh. That botched has an after show. Yeah. Yeah. Like after botched. After botched. Yeah, it's called. You're botched again. Yeah. It's something like that. Batch the game. Batch the game. Batch the game. Yeah. Still botched. Like still botched call. Right. He has calls after NASA. Exactly. Yeah. The rake is on this side. It's a driveway. It's a driveway, sir. Ronnie has like five doors. Get a broom. Get a broom. Ronnie, give him a broom. But so when we did our audition, we've told, we've told this story many times. He ran away. Yeah. So when we, when we did our audition, we were like, okay, we're going to be funny. And then they put the TV on and then it started showing stuff. And then the three of us just started talking a mile. And they were like, we're like making jokes about every single thing. It was like an avalanche of banter. And they were like, do you think that you lost it because of that? Yes. And then on top of that, then they also cast like the gay guys on it are like really cute, you know, gays. So we think it was a combination that they got like really cute gays. And then we were all so crazy. I mean, we were deranged. We weren't just like sitting watching. We weren't like sitting watching. You know, I saw the, I saw the video of the UK show and everyone would just sort of be sitting there. Oh my God. You know, we were like, no, we're not going to sit and talk. We're going to be on. I was shaking. No, I think that just so you know, feel free to still hate Scott Emerson and Blake. We like them. We like them. No, they're so funny. Or hate people Scott. But the, the, this should make you feel better. First of all, I think you probably did do awesome. And I think they did want, I'm sure we were, we had 50 dogs on us. We drank, we'll do anything. And now we're stuck three years later, have to drink every show, eat tons of chips. Like we'd have, we're stuck having to do all that shit, we promise. But no dieting ever. The thing with Scott and Emerson and Blake is that particularly Scott. Go back me. Yeah. Um, he was supposed to be, I don't know if this is a secret or what, but he was, um, supposed to be Patty Stanger's. Oh, like love, like one of her. Yeah, one of her like assistants. Yeah. He was, he sort of, I think had like a, um. Oh, and then we just had a flat surface. He would not have last but there. I think that because of that though, he sort of had like a, um, not like an official, the, the providence and due development deal. Yeah, but they were like, they knew him. They were like, oh, why don't we just plug him in here and he'll be great. Yeah. I literally think the whole entire casting that he, it was based on him. Yeah. Like it was started with him and then just went from there. Totally possible. So I think it was never yours to lose because of that, which sucks. Yeah. It was a long time ago. It's like it's a totally different thing now. Yeah. And you guys are killing it on there. What's it like doing the Vanderpump rules thing when you make fun of, I mean, you guys are, you'll say it right to their face. I mean, I don't know why. Why you're so. Wait, wait, before you ask that. Before you ask that, we do a toast because these are our mark. We, we actually have skinny girl margaritas for the station. Ron, you already drank it. So. Oh, yeah. Cheers. Cheers to being at a live in person podcast. I just heard that Bethany speaking of doesn't have to pay alimony anymore. Oh, Bethany's divorce is final. So congratulations to her. Rosalie. Rosalie. Child support. What about child? I don't think she's, oh, that's different. I know. I'm not sure. But she doesn't need to lose our $12,000 a month. Yeah, that's ridiculous. That's for New York. Do you think she's worth like a zillion dollars? I don't think she needs to pay the mortgage anymore either, which she was also paying. Now she doesn't have to be practically homeless anymore. Oh, practically. Yes. I'm not originally homeless. I'm already in a limo. Like, literally, I'm, I'm homeless. Like, literally kill me now. My walls are up. My walls are up. I'm homeless. I'm trying to have to get a mask. I'm so happy we're drinking this on her day that she's. Yeah. Which are yours. Yeah. I think that must be that's official. Yeah. It's official. It took a year. There were Mary for two years and. Six months or something and they, the divorce took two years and three months. That's holy crap. I would feel worse if we didn't see scenes of him driving around that stupid skinny girl car with her and going door to door at the liquor stores and selling the shit. I think that's like someone who did help build it at least. Oh, I was fine with her paying him. I didn't care at all. I was like, you want to quickly get married, someone you just met, use it to get your own spin off. He did that show. You constantly humiliated him. I mean, I like Bethany, but I'm like, that's what you get. Yeah. Don't need someone you met on the street and use it to build your whole brand. Yeah. And then when you're done with him and you realize he's, you know, fucking annoying. Yeah. I mean, I do think it's excessive, but I mean, I see both, I see both points. It's like, I, like, I feel like the punishment seems pretty excessive for the crime. Like $12,000 a month is a very steep punishment, but either way, I mean, I don't care. I don't really care that much. I'm not that invested, but you know, at least we have our single margaritas. So anyway, before I, before I interrupted to do our toes because we have our skinny girl margaritas. So tell us about the Vanderpump Rules after show and like how that. He's back with another machine on the other side. We see circling us. I feel like we're like in clown car gardening. We feel like we're like in Safari. We're like in the tent and the lions are outside, like circling around. Like we can't go out of the cabana. The third one is Thursday's my gardening day, too. I like that you made him so fierce, the gardener. He's so nice. Well, he went, he lost the rake and went and got the blower. Yeah. I know. I'm like, sir, it is almost like five o'clock. Why are you using old landscaping? You know landscaping is only for seven in the morning. We wake up every once in a minute. Okay. What are you doing at like five? If we record this show 10 in the morning, he's here at 10 in the morning. If we do it at five in the night. Of course. Of course. Now, do you think that we are mean to their face? Not mean, but you don't. I mean, you've got serious balls, I think. Good. I liked it. I mean, when we went to a pump, I was telling Ben the other day, Lisa Vanderpump is like, Caesar kind of in this tent on the side. And she's surrounded by all these older gay guys holding one of her tiny dogs. I was dying. I met those gay guys were intimidating for sure. It's a gay ball. Well, with gay guys, with me, I always feel intimidated because it's West Hollywood. And like, I'm overweight and I'm bald. Like, I don't care until I'm around gay guys. I'm like, Oh, my God, I lose. But one thing you always win with is age. So I'm old. So I always lose. But those guys were all older. Yeah. So I automatically went. So I wasn't scared of them. Plus, they were really nice. But I was scared of Lisa. I mean, I did just say, I love you. Cistering. It's a bunch of problems. Hashtag. Bye. You know, I was like, I'm out of here. I was like, how about you? Did you know to come here to me? She had a pause going? Lisa. Yeah. Because even blacked out Sally over here. I was like, I think Lisa might be drunk. And I was like, how can you even see out of your eyeballs? Was she asking inappropriate questions about people's affairs? No, she does that so hard. When did the love story begin, darling? That was the first time we've seen her pump up gazillion times. Yeah. The first time I've ever even seen her with a slight buzz. Yeah. Ever. It was late. It was late. It was late. Yeah. That was pretty sloppy. Thank God. I had so much time. I can't believe we didn't see James. But I was impressed to see Max working his butt up. He's back. That was his first day back. We went to pump before the party for Leah Blackstone. Oh, and he was there? No. Was he playing a fresh cut from the pump session scene? I believe. I was a teen there. I don't know. Maybe it was insert. Because Eric, the bartender at pump told us he was back. Maybe there was a shipment of Fireball down the street that he was taking to the Fireball. That's how the reunion opened. Oh, that's Fireball. Tina. Have you guys ever found Fireball? Yeah. You can't get, if you're a true Alki, and those kids are, you can't even catch a buzz on that show. And it also does, it does not taste delicious, I think. I think it's just like cinnamon sweetness. The other door is the other door. I swear to God, I'm like, this is ridiculous. Fireball, my favorite thing to say with Andrew Plump rules is, you're 40. What the fuck? I get it if you're in college. Like, we've all been there. I mean, I didn't go to college, but my sister did. Dude, that water is so dirty and a flower thing. I drank Fireball, but you don't drink that when you're old or get some vodka. Oh, now he's over there. Yeah, there's the leaf. I'm telling you the leaf blower. I see it now. I get everything. I understand. Normally, we do this over Skype and I hear the leaf blower and you talk about the leaf blower. But now that I'm actually Ronnie's place, I'm seeing. You're blowing the leaves from that side to this side. He comes over here and blows them from there, back over the other side. Yeah. Maybe we should say, when are you going to be done, sir? He'll go 15 minutes, okay? How many just comes on the podcast and explains his methodology of leaf blowering. He won't talk because you know I try to get everybody to be nice. To me, I give him an Xbox. I'm like, so how's your wife? And he's like, wow. He gets all scared. You gave him an Xbox and we're letting him interrupt us. Well, I didn't buy him. This is all old. So wait, so what? I had to spend $500 on the cable so we're missing. So the VAN of our rules after show. So how far in advance do you guys watch? Do I give you the episodes? You watch them ahead of time. You record them like two weeks ahead of time or something like that? Yeah. I don't know. Are we allowed to say? I don't know. You don't have to say if it's going to jeopardize. We do watch all the episodes. Yeah. We watch all the episodes. And then we have great this time in between. And then we didn't get to see those episodes and we had to walk to them on TV. It was annoying. That's weird. And everyone's cool. Everyone comes on. They're just happy to be on TV. Yeah. Yeah. For the most part, I have a good sense of humor and they all are ready. You know, we're open and playing. Yeah. They all eat a lot of shit. Yeah. Really good. I mean, a lot of people on Twitter will be like, you don't go in hard enough. But it's like, we're not really. We're not there to antagonize. Yeah. It's also going to yell at them. What are we going to write? Yeah. That's what Twitter is for. Exactly. It's also like, it's one thing when we're doing the podcast and we got mad. We go on a rant. When you actually see someone in person and if you start to rant in person, then you're the crazy one. Yes. That's right. It's like, what are you? I mean, they're real people. Yeah. We are whenever that disgusted, like on Twitter, this overwhelming disgust towards them. Right. That was a really ever art thing. I mean, my favorite thing is like all love the, I like, I loved like snooky. Yeah. To the end. Yeah. People were like, oh, and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. I love Paris Hilton. I like the person that everyone hates. I mean, I'm disgusted by the banner from rules cast and we go off all the time. But like, it's not like, it's like a, it's like a podcast. You met them. You'd be like, oh, nice to meet you. Cool. Yeah. But it's not like a real. Yeah. Hey, yeah. Because if you do that in front of them, but I mean them. But yeah. In a good nature way. Yeah. Well, Ronnie. So Ronnie's tech. This is always very funny because Ronnie's method always makes me go like this. But you talked about this. And the world. Because what he does is he starts to go in on them and you think just what you think is about to get like really awkward. He pulls back and he realizes actually complimenting them. And so you'll be like the time you went to Tom Sandoval and you're like, you're like, God damn you, you know, you're so, you know, you're so goddamn annoying on the show because you are so attractive. You make it so hot. No, I got it. No, it's not because I'm making shay go to the gym with him. Oh, yeah. And I was like that every guy does that to a fat guy. Okay. We've all got that friend in LA who's like, Hey, bro, it's easy to work out, man. All you have to do is climb this rope and then every guy takes turns climbing to the top of this rope. Shake cannot climb out of bed. Okay. You cannot do that to an overweight person. So that's what I was telling you. Yeah. Because at first it looked like you were saying, I can't think you took shay to the gym. It looked like you were going to like be going in on him for like how we treated someone who is like, uh, dealing with sobriety or whatever. So Thomas are going to get had this and we're all like this and then you're like, and then you brought us like compliments. Oh, they know they were with me. Yeah. No, no, this is telling my sister. No, it's interesting. Oh, yeah. Um, I was like, and they asking manly. So do you hang out with any of them normal in normal life or just see them? When you're over there, before the after show, we met, um, we knew Jack's the best and he because he goes to pump and he's cool. He was a fan of people's couch, um, and plus we just love Jack's, you know, but, um, and then we also knew Tom Schwartz, but now I would say, um, socially worth the most, um, we have the most. It's the IP. Unfettered access to Sheena. Oh, okay. Um, like Sheena has invited us over, um, she's super, I mean, I would say that she's like the dark horse. Like, you know, I even told her this, that like, of course she's, she's like the easiest eye roll and she's the one that, I think she's the one that you most hurt the good parts of her don't show because she's actually like Julie says, like really super thoughtful. Um, she's, she's really, really nice. She's really, really nice. Well, she said some nice stuff on the reunion, you know, when they talked about like Shay and his issues, um, and they're talking about how she got like totally reinvented. I don't know what addiction was, but I'm not, yeah, it was funny, but I'm also not going to take that away from her because I mean, how else are you supposed to learn? Like, you know, if people know what else learns like that learning from Twitter, that's crazy. I remember during that, that time, because obviously she, Sheena, Jake, I'm on the after show. I just remember being like, it's kind of like what people who aren't gay, it like, let's say last year would say something about trans, like there would, we watched a trans show in people's couch or one show, it maybe it was even I on the whole show. Oh, was it? No, it was the reenactment show. Sorry. Oh, okay. It was the, it was the, um, we watched this fucking reenactment show where it was like about a private, like a detective. It was like a detective. Yeah. And it was like, so the private investigator had to go. Somebody came, it was like, oh, it's cheating on me. And then the private investigator goes and finds me out. And then it's all reenactment. That's the whole thing's reenactment. And then they find that the person is being, is, he is cheating on you. But wait, they would go in, they went in a bathroom and like, it's so weird. There's a razor. Oh, it's like the mystery. Yeah. There's a razor, like a man's razor. It was like all weird. Who is a member of the bathroom? Like are these women. Oh, man. Yes. You learn that idea. Yeah. It's like, there's a man's razor, but yet there's women perfectly. Women's perfume, something's weird. And then it gets towards the end. And then Julie. Yeah. Oh, and then it was, I love some, some bad news for you. Yeah. He's, yeah, he has been cheating on you, but it's, it's not with a woman, it's with a man. Now. No. However, it was with a trip. It was really. I thought the boyfriend was trans. I can't remember. Oh, is that what it was? Yeah. It was like he's not cheating on you. Shit around his house is his trans. Oh, is that what it was? The end was trans. And Julie and I immediately. Just went mute. Like we were like, we're not going to be a part of this. Yeah. We didn't want to say it. We didn't want to say it, but we weren't. This is like Chinatown. It's like, it's my sister, my daughter. It's my daughter. But it's a man. It's a woman. It's a man. It's a woman. Right. I mean, you're a guy. I don't want to. I couldn't say anything though. Yeah. But right. I got to the banner from things like I kept thinking with her with addiction. I go, it's just like the thing when a person who didn't know anything about the trans shit would say a dumb, ignorant trans comment without even knowing. And it's like, you are going to each for saying that. While she was there talking, I was like, man, she's going to be, she's going to get rigged over the culture because she doesn't realize what intense people are about that shit. Yeah. Well, the thing is. It's our main alcohol. Just don't know, boring, have five shots of tequila, no beer, whatever her roles are. I don't want to be one of those boring, some of our people at all. But, you know, but I mean, but I, but again, I do like, that is a valid thing to feel. It is. It's the worst. But like, but you know, though, I did, I did appreciate what she said. I'm on the reading. You know, and I'm, I'm not saying this just because we're saying how you guys are saying how much you like, you know, more like, I do appreciate because some people would be like, yeah, I got rigged over the coals, but I'll just give it a chance. Excuse me, but she was like, yeah, I got rigged over the coals, so I decided to actually look into what the hell I was saying and I discovered, oh yeah, like, now I know better. You know, which I think is like, if someone says, like, now, like, I, like, I got a lot of shit for something, so I've changed my ways. I think that's like an acceptable thing. I mean, what else are you hoping to achieve by getting someone's shit then to like, learn something or like. Especially on Bravo. Like, the whole point is to be as horrible as you can, but the second you say you're sorry, people forget anything. But it's like Jack's, I mean, Jack's the best example, Jack's knows how to apologize for everything. But I do want to say, to that point, I do want to just say, all at the same time a person is allowed to feel however the fuck they want without everyone coming down on them and trying to reach back into the trance, trying to even with her just like, you know, and if her true feeling was that she was really scared that this guy that she just married was now going to be fully sober and she was afraid that was going to put something in their relationship where she doesn't want to be with somebody who's fully sober. Maybe that was really happening for her and it came out whenever we're like, that's valid too. Like, everything's that they're going to school you on something. And as much as you maybe need to learn to a certain degree, everyone else also needs to take a few seats. I know. So judgmental. If we took seats though, we'd have no podcast. Yeah. I know. When somebody comes at you personally specifically, it's one thing we can all rant and talk shit and I'll talk shit for fucking days. Yeah. I will never stop talking shit. But when we can say that she dumb and annoying and self-centered shit like that, it's like the trance thing. Addiction is like a thing with all these rules. Right. Everybody has to follow these rules. Right. And that's why we go. I can't. Right. But that being said, even though she obviously isn't dialed at the way she feels, she probably could have chosen a better choice of words. I'm saying something like, well, I don't want you to be boring, you know, because that's like that implies some shame in it. There's tons of things that go into that. I actually am a little concerned about Shina, because, and I actually, I don't like to go into physical things, whatever, but I'm concerned that she's too skinny. Did you notice that? She looked a little too skinny for me on the reunion. And I hope that that's not a really time, because she's already petite. Have you seen her? Have you seen her over there when we've, I can't like Disneyland? She was, she's not me choosing passes, you know, there's always goofy who has to take a picture with you or whatever. Yeah. James. Right. But she's so little, and I don't mean skinny by anorexic, but she's literally like a little tiny elf with this long hair. She looks very different in real life. She's very pretty. She's very pretty. She's very petite. I thought on the reunion, I was a little concerned, and I'm not even being snarky. I thought she looked too skinny. Each time we saw her, she was tinier and tinier, because yeah, she's super like little, I don't know that she's short. Yeah, she's a little petite girl, you know, so it's like, she's like shrinking, shrinking, shrinking, shrinking. Yeah. Huge features, huge eyes, huge eyelashes, tons of hair, and you're like, whoa, man, it's, I think she's prettier in person. I think so too. But I think I'm worried more about their faces, because they're just getting ridiculous. Yeah. With their faces. Yeah. Jax has looked different in every episode, and he hit. It's unfortunate that he has like, facial dysmorphia, I think. I have like the reverse where I never know I'm getting fatter, like I think too highly. But I think he never like, really sees when it's right, because there was one moment this season towards the end, he was doing his testimonial shots. He looked stunningly amazing. I think he had like a little skinny mustache or something in his face, like it's settled. I think like the last surgery settled and then the, like it all just settled down and it looked perfect. And then now he's looking like a, you know, a beanie baby or whatever. Well, I was like, I was this season like, even in, maybe not, no, probably at the after show too. I was like, maybe he's sculpting his eyebrows too much and his hair's too dark. And then I realized. He's got great hair by the way. I want to give props to his hair. But I think maybe he's probably getting like a couple of great. He's like, you know, he's like, I don't know, he's like 37 or something. Guys can start getting gray like, anyway, start getting gray in their 30s. I know his hairs, he seems to be dying his hair. So I would tell Julie, like, I mean, I would have to pause and be like, okay, his eyebrows are too sculpted. He's filling them in too much because hairs too black and he needs to go back away was first season and he maybe just needs whatever, like maybe he's got 10 to 15 pounds exactly. So then I saw the, the fucking uncensored thing. The eyebrows were so sculpted. I mean, I was dying. I was like, whoa, the eyebrows were almost set. That's what I get. Yeah, the uncensored thing. I'm glad he brought that up. So why don't we start talking about uncensored? I guess we'll talk about uncensored. We'll talk about the reunion and then we'll talk about Beverly Hills, right? Does that work for everyone? Yeah. Yeah. When you have to go, you have to go. I figured we start with pumples. We don't want to. Okay. Two people like to listen to us this long. Are they like, oh, yeah. Because people have three hours. People have two minutes. People are at work. People listen. But I always say, as you can always fast forward, you know, it's not like it's a live broadcast. You can just scroll up to where you want to listen to. Trust me. They do. Wow. I thought bandropump rules uncensored season one was amazing. Well, I bet it was just as good as the Beverly Hills one. Oh, my God. Just as good. I agree. It was, first of all, it also made me sad because again, at the risk of sounding totally judgmental, it's going to happen. This is, I don't like to say this for comments, but it has to be said because it's just the elephant in the room. They've all gained so much weight. I mean, Katie, Jack's not even chubby, but the difference between her when she was eating cigarettes for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, I mean, like, I could not believe like how skinny she was at one time. She just, she doesn't look fat at all. We just are yesterday. She's normal. Yeah. But it was like, I didn't even watch season one. But for me, that uncensored was like the business. Julie's the one who watched season one. Oh, so good. She fell into it. I'm like, what is she thinking? Then I watched the reunion and then it was on after that. So actually, I think I watched the reunion of season two, then I sat in the same place and walked by the entire season of season two. Season two is amazing. Amazing. So I missed that whole thing with that crazy girl, but I just thought about her. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I can't believe that was season one. Andy Cohen said that Laura Lee was a little Lee. Yeah. When he said that she was the unsung hero of season one, I was like, thank you. Because she, she was she, she came in having sex with me with a pandas or with that little boy. She came in. She was like an ingenue, Stasi, like unleashed all of her hatred on this girl. And she sort of had to take it. And then after all, she, she took it. She stood up to Stasi and then Jack's like dumped her after she pours her heart out to him about like her addiction issues. He's dumped her right after the AA meeting. That was good. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is, you know, I think I gotta take a step back. She's sitting, they're sitting on a curb that looks like literally right outside your apartment. Yeah. Well, thank you. They're in East Hollywood. They're right. You know what? They're right. They're right. They're right. So, they're sitting on a curb. He's breaking up to the right. She can't believe they just went to an AA meeting and which was tragic. It's like, isn't this fucking supposed to be anonymous? Whatever. Fine. He's literally, did you guys notice he's like this? I rewinded a hundred times. He's like this. He's hitting something off of his arm. Like she's crying and he likes us and whatever. I think we should take it, but I don't know if I can be with someone with this, whatever. And then he's like, says Jack's the big kleptomaniac, like drug user pregnancy maker. Yeah. I can't deal with your issues. Yeah, literally he's like trying to get like something off of us. She wants off his arm. He doesn't care. She's like her heart is broken. And thus began the tradition of nobody understanding rehab. Yeah. Exactly. Because it's part of the tradition. It's history. Exactly. But think about it. To be, well, they're not young, but like to be youngish here, especially, I mean, they're in this neighborhood. They all have to get plastic surgery when they're like starting at 25. Their faces look fucking crazy. They're all doing shit. They're all at such different levels of being fucked up. And I'm always trying to guess the drugs, you know. That's like Matt. You got the Matt, the coke, the lead. Anyone's doing tweak, really? Yeah. You do? Yeah. Crystal, I think so. Really? Because everybody's doing that around here. And people will tell you, do you want some coke? And you're like, yeah. And then before you know it, you're up for five days and wanting to fuck a phone pole. I've been there. It's not like once you feel it, you know, you kind of see it change the danger of that. Excellent. Well, that's hard. Yeah. Well, that's how we've done it. Well, and then we're trying. I know. It was just a drug deal. It makes sense. James, James, I believe, so I don't know enough about math or coke or that. Oh, that's so cute. No, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, but I don't, but I don't, in terms of that, like, I wouldn't, I know like the obvious signs of crystal, like really twitchy, but like, I don't know the subtle signs. I know the signs of, of course, when someone's on it, you're like, get the tweaker out of my fucking face. Yeah. But I know, I really do know the signs of what someone looks like, who. Oh, with meth mouth. Yeah. Yeah. And also skin. It's hard to tell with fillers, though, because you don't, they can avoid the meth phase. I've been the one they don't have a whole rail of porcelain teeth on them, so you don't tell that way. I believe that James does go. That's, that's my guess. I certainly hope they all do, coke. They all do. Me too. Yeah, they all do. I hope they do. They get really obvious. Like, I think he does cocaine. Let me see. He's so tired. Hey, you guys. I think you're doing part of the cocaine, I've had enough of this restaurant. I mean, how many leaves are there? This is us blowing cocaine right now. It's yet another machine coming around. The most professional podcast on the internet. I mean, there's not even a tree back there. They're really blowing the dust. I mean, how many times have they had to blow it up to you? I love to get out of here, guys. This is so fucking terrible. I love it. I love it with the... So far off. On the uncensored. Oh, wait. Can I say one thing? Yeah. Because I was thinking about the blower out there. Yeah. The meth stuff, the reasoning. Some of the, the signs that you can tell, one of the side effects, and I learned this from doing my research on the internates, because I write, uh, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recounts, too, from my website and I write these big long things. So when Brandy Glambele told Kim Britcher, it said, "at least I'm not doing crystal meth in the bathroom all night, bitch." I looked up, I looked up Crystal Met. And one of the side effects, one thing that all these people have in common is stealing, it's like a weird, shot-lippedy thing, because there's some rush that they get off just going and stealing shit. And like, we can't. And so that's what most of you need to keep a chance, 'cause he is such a klepto. I knew for the, but by the way, for the record, I knew, and Brandy Glambele takes it back now, officially, the crystal meth thing. She's like, "I had just gone to like a, she hangs out with a lady from Dr. Drew." You know how that's that lady? Oh, yeah, Hemena. It's Jennifer Hemena. Yeah. So she's like, "My friend," and blah, blah, blah. She literally told Julie and I, like, "I had just been with my friend who, you know, whatever. That's the reason I said that." And I was like, "No, no, no. The reason you said that was 'cause Kim Britcher was doing crystal on the back of the whole season." Oh, yeah. With that weird guy. Okay. Okay. Number one first sign of crystal is that you'll never come back. Oh, the mouth breather. And you look like that Britney Spears, I always bring this guy up with the guy that like took over Britney Spears' minds. Oh, yeah. He's riding in. He's riding in. He's riding in. He's riding in. He's riding in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's riding in. He's riding in. He's riding in. He's riding in. He's riding in. He's riding in. He's riding in. Oh, yeah. He's riding in. That's true. She would sit in there for hours. She couldn't get herself out of any bathroom. No, I spent a lot of time in the bathroom, but that has more to do with just digestive food. Yeah. I do do it. Just be our spirit. He spends it in the Camille Grammar way that I have way. The national spokesperson for IBM. Did you guys see, here's a little thing on Camille Grammar. You must have seen this. One of Julie and I, it's a good favorite pastimes you like to do, is stalk Leah Black's tweets. Yes. I saw that on her. You saw it. You saw it. Well, how about this Donald Trump? Like I like when she tells love Donald Trump on Twitter. Yeah. Well, she, so based on a stalking of Camille, I mean, if Leah, we came across a tweet from Camille Grammar saying, "If whoever sends me the funniest tweet, we'll get, what would specifically did she say? Like a treat from my home?" Yeah. Give them her assistant, Dee Dee. Yeah. Did you have an assistant named Dee? Oh, right. The lady that's in the hot tub. Oh, yes. She said she was going to send like a special treat from her house to you. Yeah. I saw that. And then Leah, didn't Leah say, "Do you have me?" Yeah. That's the same. Yeah. It's a private joke. Yeah. It goes down to the DM. Be careful. I can see. Yeah. Get in my hoverboard. I'm going to check my hoverboard. I'm going to check my hoverboard. I'm going to check my hoverboard. I'm going to check my hoverboard. I'm going to check my hoverboard. I'm going to check my hoverboard. I'm going to check my hoverboard. I'm going to check my hoverboard. I'm going to check my hoverboard. Look at me. Oh. I can't. Oh. For your creep. The lights just flipped on. They go off whenever the gardener turns off of his tools. The lights all come on in here. So one thing that was really funny to me about the Vanderpumpf Rules Uncensored Special was the little segment devoted to the debut of Ariana, who was in season one as one of Shina's backup dancers. That was good. Of moments of that thing, I thought that was the pinnacle. That was. She like has to refuse to be like, "Shina on camera." She's like, "I'm my fucking face." She's like, "I'm taking class at UCB because those cameras are the fuck out of my face." You're ruining my sketch comedy brand. You're ruining my game. And literally the producers are like, "I mean the producers," and more than one are like, "Um, that was actually the hardest shoot I've ever done. That was the most unwilling person I've ever tried to film in the history of reality." They really never come across anyone else. I mean, she's like this with all her hair over her face like this. It's like, "Why are you even there?" Yeah, why? Exactly. But then they went on to say that she had already fucked her up. I love that in the thing of Vanderpumpf at this moment, present moment, I lived for the fact that they still wanted to be hooked up. People still blame Kristen that entire season was based on Kristen literally losing part of her mind. Her part of her mind is Whitney Houston gone from fighting to the world that they hooked up and no one still known believes it. They don't admit it. And then even on this thing, they're like, "Oh, Tom and Ariana had already like fucked or whatever." Yeah. So that's why she wanted to be on camera. But still people will be like, " Kristen's crazy. She just accuses them that they didn't do it and they won't admit it. They will never, ever, ever admit it, ever." I mean, like, "Will you guys hook to up?" And he's like, "Kris, dad, I'll still be people every day, I go to a target. Let me tell people you fuck, we're weird together." And then Andy's trying to help Kristen. He's like, "Well, were you more upset because he had an emotional affair with Ariana?" I'm so, "Yo, that's what I meant." You know what I loved and special, like there was like this one woman, she was like a camera operator or something. Oh, I know what you're going to say. That was the second best part. You could tell she hated this gig. She had to take this gig for money and she was like, "They're just everywhere, they're just fucking old, I'd rather just like be out and watching animals tear each other out, bowels." And I texted Julie this, she goes, "Tom Sandoval has no sense of humor." And he literally, literally, the way I bring him, has no sense of humor, he might as well be German. I was like a texted Julie, I was like, "Oh, quote of the fucking sentence, he's been so in love with that." Well, what's funny also, if you compare this to Beverly Hills Uncensored, Beverly Hills Uncensored, they were just talking about the family drama and we got this and we watched this and we saw this thing unfold. And this one, the producers were like, all of them were kind of like, "We didn't really want to be that." They were like fucking next to us in the dressing room and you can see them all like, "Ugh, this was the worst shoot I ever went on in my life." There was like no sense of pride about having been involved with this whatsoever. Because what is that show? The whole first season, we were doing our podcast then to you, "Shut up, Bueller." We were doing our show then and Ben and Matt, our former bestie, just loved that. And I was like, "I cannot," because I was a waiter. I was like, "I do not want to come home and watch other videos." I hated it. That's why I didn't watch it. The first three episodes I hated, if you go back and listen, I was like, "This show is awful. It's just about the douchebags that hang around Hollywood that we all see and know. It's awful, it's celebrating awful people, it's giving them a platform, I hate this show, I hate this show." It's true. The first three hours I'm addicted and by the time the season was over, I was like, "This is probably the best show I've ever seen." The thing about that uncensored was that I love how Stosti was like, "What's this going to be about?" She says in the interview, "Why would anyone watch this? What's this going to be about me and Jack's fighting?" And then immediately the very first scene, she picks a fight and it's clearly a fake fight. Orders for drinks and I can just see. She is the architect. I mean, she's so strategic, she's so smart, she's so funny and that's why she's the queen of that show because she masterminded all that shit. But she made a huge mistake, which is that she decided to go after Lisa. I know and it makes me sad because seeing Stosti, like classic Stosti, it's like you hate him love her. Because I remember I hate, I used to hate her. Oh my god, I was like, "I hate this bitch, but by the end of the season I was like, but you secretly love her." And now that she sort of turned into this side line, after show, I was like, "Didn't you consider not doing this tragic apology to her? Is you for one second consider like, just come back, make up with Lisa, like fuck Eric at Pump, get a new, come in a side door and be like, "I'm not apologizing to anyone, I'm kicking ass and taking names." And she was like, "Nope, I really truly wanted my friends back." And we were like, "I think it's fine, I think it's fine, she wants to do an apology tour and that's fine." No, apology tours. No, apology tours. Well, if it's what it takes to get her back and to form, but you can't do an apologies tour and then still bash Lisa, like you have to know, like quit while you're ahead. No, they are dumb with Lisa. Well, she's stupid. Lisa's a boss. You can't fuck with Lisa, we will do that. Stosti was smart. Stosti was smart. When you say they are done with Lisa, you can all of them. Well, Kristin, Stosti. Yeah, Kristin. Yeah, Kristin still shows up there for free drinks every five nights of the week and starts yelling at people. Well, I, we asked Katie on that one show. That's like Kristin saying, you know what, I'm done with like ISIS, like I'm done with ISIS. Well, congratulations. Like, what is that to you for you? Hey, guys. I want to tell you the catch of the day, it's me. Okay. Mortar. Kristin Casino. Oh, okay. So, um, she, well, obviously Kristin and, and Stosti, Stosti's with Kristin, she's not going to run. Right. But we asked Katie, like, would you, um, aren't you concerned that Lisa Vanderpond is going to be annoyed that you're all close with, does Lisa Vanderpond is annoyed that Katie is, let Stosti back in? Because it was her. You want me to say it's older. Yeah. Yeah. And she's like, uh, these girls, these girls are dumb because, you know what, they're borders like that. The whole reason why Lala is there this season is to breathe the next generation. So if these people, they do know that, they know that they, there's a war and a fact that the young kids and the old kids and that, and that, and that the new people that come in to the producers have more control over way more control, like they don't, the, the others, other kids, they're not told what to do. That's real drama. I believe the problem with Katie, Kristin and Stosti and Jax and the Tom's, I think at this point, they're a little too aware of like, of like how they come off a little bit or how, what's going on with the cameras, because the shift that's going down this season with them is really not on the same level as it was season one, season two, season one, season two, they would just like, fuck each other. And they would like lie to each other and be mean. And now they just have like little indiscretions, but they are like, you can see that they are like being good. They're on best behavior, Katie's not drinking on camera anymore. And so it's like, it's also age, I mean, not really on the face, but they're like four years. They're operating in like dog years. They've grown up. They have grown up. And they're not interested where we want Stosti and Jax to have this chemistry and still think about fucking each other. Like, in real life, you really get the feeling that they're like, not feeling it like before they all wanted to do that. And now they just don't want to. There's also no Queen B there anymore. Like, like on the on like the on the weight or level, Katie, you're trying, but Katie, no one can see holding a tray of salt and pepper shakers while you're yelling at them. Okay. Did you see that Jezebel Jezebel described Katie, they were they were talking about why a man of her role is like the greatest show in the history of TV. And they just like last week. And I believe they just described this crime, Katie as a bland blob and they call her like a bland blob. And they're like, first season, she's just a bland blob. But now she's like, she speaks up more, but she's still just more of a bigger blander blob. I know. It's so rude. So rude. But not a blob. That's the first and second seasons though were that was the greatest reality show in the history of reality. Oh, 100% and the drama and the cheating and the crying and it was real, I mean, it was real. It was a fake. And even now, like whatever, you know, I still, I thought the lala with the tits out, I was kind of digging that. It was fine. But it's not to me, the best episode of the season, by the way, right? Do you want to see the still recording since you moved out, I want to make sure that the cable didn't get disconnected or whatever. Oh, yeah. You just check on quick time to see. I thought that the best episode of the season for me was the gay pride season, that to me with the closest to season one or season two, because that was when you had, that was when you had James who had just like fucked the random girl who looks like and feel for the rest of development and like Lauren, and he's acting like he and Laura both acting like they didn't fuck the night. He's like kissing on Laura and then when lala finds, she finds out because something with Kristen, right? Kristen gets mad at it. Kristen's being annoying about something. Someone walked in and said, Oh, we do this. Yeah. Oh, because lala and Kristen were being buddy, but remember, because that was, that was and more and we're standing at the host of standards. They were, but then later on, if I remember correctly, Lauren was like, I'm with you girl. That guy's a jerk. Yeah. Right up and told. Who was it? No, because if I remember correctly, which again, I might not, at this time, remember Kristin and lala were sort of allies, right, because, because Kristin had put lala through a chest the episode before being like, well, James came over and was like holding me last night and I was like, Oh, fuck you, James, and Kristen like that. Remember? Yeah. So I think that like, lala and Kristin were being buddy, buddy about something. And then that prompted James to be like, well, guess what? I fucked Nolan last night, something like that, right? Oh, James probably. No, I remember now. I think James walked up to the host to stand and she said she looked at his arm and she was like, who did that? Yeah. And he's like, what is it? We're not exclusive, darling. We're not exclusive. Which her dumbass did just say. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. So he told her. Yeah, he came right up to her. Lauren, who is the absolute like unsung hero of the season, did my favorite move? The old get the fucking camera out of my face, rip the microphone off, move it, move it. But there was some stuff that happened before that I forget. I wish I could remember exactly how it played out. But basically, I think James told Lala that he slept with Lauren to get back at Lala because Lala was maybe starting with Jack. Lala was starting with Jack. Lala was all over Jack. She said, she went up to the bar and he's cracked out. She was starting with Jacks. Oh, here's what it was. She was starting with Jacks to make James jealous because James had come up with the scratches. So she's starting with Jacks. So then James, as retaliation to that, he was like, well, guess what, I fucked Nolan last night. So then she's like fine. So she goes in to like Antonio. He goes and tells him who's at the bar. And by the way, yeah, a hot one. Anthony Anthony Anthony Anthony. I like how he made it Antonio because he's very Antonio. He's very Antonio. Like kind of Mexican. And I like to mention on this podcast that everyone, then he runs shirtless down Hollywood Boulevard and I really enjoy that. I don't know. He's gorgeous. He's gorgeous at the bar with Jacks. He is. And he's going to do his face. So anyway, so then he goes to Lauren and then that's when she was like, okay, like Adam, I was like, you are so stupid. This was your moment to become a full-time cast member. No, we entreat her. She's not feeling it. She doesn't want to. And it's amazing. And we literally were like this, we're not worthy. Thank you. No, I mean, she is. We're not being a thirsty tool. Yeah. As a person in life, she did the right thing as a potential reality star. She did the wrong thing. Yeah, she's not a one. She's not a one. She only, they didn't even do the aftershop. But that, well, we made that episode. So good was that that was classic Vanderpump rules thing where people were sick with each other and then they make each other jealous and then they get back at each other and it's like this whole thing where that drags in every single person in the cast. And it proves that everyone is sure is still all fuck. Yeah. It's not on the show anymore, but they still do. But that was like the only time this season that we really saw some of that like soapy draw, like really, really soapy trauma. Well, they're going to have to get some new young people in because now people are getting married and are adulting. Yeah, you know what? Everything was Tom and Katie. The term adulting. Authority. Everything on Tom and Katie, every time it was like a scene of them, it was just like a snooze fest. I'm sorry. Tom seems like a really lovely guy. Katie seems actually very sweet. But God. I mean, I miss him throwing drinks on him. Thank you. I was like, we were supposed to get one to season. He's supposed to pour a drink on him. Yeah. That one's growing up. I love Stasi's pride and how horrible she is. They're showing these clips and them sensitive. Stasi just being terrible and sick. Ha, ha, ha. Yeah. That's right. That was the queen literally. Oh, no, I love. Like I don't know what I've done to you. This wasn't on that, but I don't know what I've done to you, but I'll take a peanut drink. Yeah. That's what I've addressed. That's the best. That's what I love to hear me about how people were intentionally, like, booking tables, intersection to tell her about it. She's trying. Yeah, that was perfect. That's how the people don't want to be on the show because they see what it's like Stasi has to go to work while she used to. And people would like a whole group of girls asked for her just so they could yell at her the whole time. Yeah. Yeah, Anna told us that we didn't know because we've obviously never, ever once. We'll sit and read Leah Black's tweets all the way back to 2014, but we've never once looked at any Vanderpump tweets. But she told us, Ariana, like the first after-show, like she's like the level of hate. You won't believe. And then she's like, it doesn't even matter. They're showing something innocuous. And I'm like, oh, you mean like when they did the close up on the lube? That wasn't innocuous. That was the best. Remember when they did the close up on the lube? That was the second best part of the whole entire series. In Tom's Hand of All's House, the crusty bottle of lube. Yeah. So badass. So what they try to pretend is like swag when he got free somewhere and then I don't even know why was that half used in the corner. I don't know. I don't love anal. I'm okay. So basically she says they'll just show like the corner of the apartment and it'll be 900 tweets on how gross she is, how gross her carpet is, how dare she is. Like when she spilled paint on the carpet. Yeah, and then we saw it was like the level of like negative about every detail of them. Every detail. Yeah. Everything from their physical appearance to where they live, how they act to their whole entire extended families, it's so gross. It's so dark. Like that's why I could never be a reality star actually because they're like over the past like 10 years or so. There have been like random moments where like there's a potential like I remember one time a casting director for the amazing race had approached me like in 2003 and it seemed really cool. But when you go on those shows on any reality show, I mean the amount of ridicule, you open yourself up to us, okay? And like I fully admit that I can like dish it, but I really can't take it, you know. I can't take it at all. I'm a typical bully. I start crying the second season. I walk right away. Me too. Me too. I'm like. He said I have a hunchback. Well, I'm at Jack's and I should ask him if I ever see him over there, but I'm pretty sure it was Jack's. I met in a commercial class. He was 24. I'm four years old than him and he was, I mean, dropped. He was so gorgeous. He's got a moratorium. He was just in with the gym and I smoke and so I would be out there smoking. He didn't, but he would come out and talk to me and there was this really hot gay guy who works at the Abingap or he did a couple of years ago and we would always go talk during break and he was working at Abercrombie's. He had that. That had a job. That. It's like one of the shirtless dudes in underwear that stands out there in Greece. It's like the Applebee's person, but in an Applebee's greener, but in short shorts. Now that you say that, it just seems like that job was invented for and by Jack's, the first one that ever did that job. It's like, hey guys, can I just go stand up? Should I just go stand up and make sure that we can look on his Wikipedia and it's like invented the Abercrombie. Yeah. It's so much sense. He was telling me during one smoke break that someone from Survivor came up to him, one of the casting people and was like, hey, would you like to be on Survivor? Which they actually do over that a lot, that they just walk up to hot people and they're like, you want to be on Survivor? Because there's so many seasons of it and he was like, my Asia wouldn't let me because I meet reality shows, you know, right? It's like, yeah, and here we are. Here we are. Yeah. I had the money. Well, I remember when reality TV became a thing and there was talk about it. Like, could there ever be like a celebrity version of Big Brother or whatever, like, no, what celebrities are going to find to do that? And now it's like celebrity everything, you know? Yeah. I think there are certain shows that get more hate and I think the Abercrombie is at the top of the, I think when people in shows, when people put themselves in the position of I'm hot, I'm sexy, cool, I'm popular, that opens up you up to more hate than anything else. I see. Even though people become obsessed with it. Yeah. Jax, just him alone, people become obsessed with him, you know, like obsessed to the point where it's like, I fucking hate that, I fucking hate him. I would never fuck Jax or whatever, but you know, you get all fuck him. Yeah. You're just yelling. I love him. You can even yell, I hate you. What you're really yelling is, I love you. Here's the thing with Jax. I mean, we make fun of Jax so much on this. I mean, we say he's disgusting, whatever, but if you really watch the show, you can see how charming he is and he's actually like very funny. He makes like a lot of like funny jokes all the time on the show, but like, what's the fun about talking about how funny Jax is? Let's talk about like, all his disgusting behavior too. Yeah, well totally. You want. That's it. You can totally see how you would charm someone's pants off. You want to watch a bunch of people cheating and crying and fighting and drama. But you're right about the sexy thing, because that D'Sassie just told us we don't watch the Bachelor, but, um, because we are, have fried, but, um. And it's like 10 hours long. Yeah. And then that either get out of here with your 10 hour show. But Stassie told us that there's been like three or four suicides, and in reference to Lala being like, um, unstable more so than the rest of them that she feels like she thinks that she comes across hard or whatever that she could actually be one of those unstable people that one faced with the literally like copious amounts of hate that they get. And especially being the fact that she then did the unthinkable, which is go on, watch what happens live and act like a total and utter fucking moron boom, trauma-dyed tool. Like no one. And no one's ever done that in the history of watch what happens live. And at that point, it's not just Vanderpump haters that are going in on you. It's Andy Cohen fans and most people are rabid and they went after her and she thinks that she's like unstable and could possibly go the way of the crazies on the Bachelor, who then I guess apparently commit suicide, which you knew I didn't. Yeah, a few of them have convinced us, you know, I think it's a watching reel now that's a show. It's about the Bachelor. The thing with Lala, oh, that's what the Jezebel article is about. I think the Jezebel article was talking about how Lala is like the greatest, the new star of Vanderpump Rules. And then she didn't, I don't think she's the new star, but she's definitely like the next, she's the future of the show. She's like the Kirsten Cavalary to LC, you know, but she, she's that dude from the next star track with a banana clip on his eyes. I'm like, what? I just feel like. Julie, what is his name? What is Julie? I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not the guy with the weird thing on the front of his head though. My friend is obsessed, my friend is obsessed with Star Trek and my favorite thing to do is to mix up Star Wars, intentionally mix up Star Wars and Star Trek terminology and he gets so mad. Or if I say something like, oh, there's Captain Ahura and then he like, it's like, oh, I say it to Julie, I'll go, Star Trek and she won't, she'll just, but she doesn't ever correct me, but to herself, she'll be like, that's what my friend does. I go, I go, there's Admiral Picard, he goes, you're doing exactly what my friend does, exactly what my friend does. She'll send you up. I don't get the Star Trek stuff. Oh, no. I think that's the game mail on me and that's the, that's the man inside of you that gets it so deeply. Right. Right. I'll get you joined. Join, join and spare it. I don't know what it is. I like, I know, I don't know. I don't want to doors anyone out, but I like sci-fi. Resistance is meaningless. Resistance is you. But Lala, I don't think she's that much of a breakout star. She really hasn't done that much, but I'm, she's not attracted to her insecurity. Like, Jax, I think that's why I don't find him to be all that charming and he's hurting himself so much on the face, but it's things like where he feels the need to poop on camera. Yeah. Or that he's always trying to get his dick in the shot. He's always trying to get his dick in the shot. Like that kind of meatiness is a whole different level that I just find so refreshing and important. You know what? Like, I love a gorgeous person that hates themselves. You know what, you know what Lala is like, if we may like, like, like be back onto all this and sci-fi talk for a moment? Lala is basically like Anakin Skywalker or a Kylo Ren, right? Like she has this great power to, to take over the show and do wonderful things, but she doesn't really know how to control it. And she's like, if she's not careful, she's going to go to the dark side, you know. She is like, she, many times she is like very heroic and you're like, yeah, we're rooting for you, Lala. Yes, Lala. You like take down the bitches, take down Katie or whatever, you own your sexuality. She's like very upfront, you know, she's like, whatever, I like to flirt or whatever. But then she sometimes does things, you're like, Lala, you're trying so hard. You're doing so hard, you're losing it now, you're losing it. You know, at the end of the day, she's just going to end up stabbing some hot old person that didn't deserve it, just like that, just like that hot Scott, what was it thing? Kylo. Kylo Ren. Spoiler. No, I'm just going to have two late. It's ironic that they, they will, as far as like the Stossy Kristen Katie team, they are like against her. So that, and that would include now Brittany Jax, so obviously Brittany definitely hates her now because of all that. So that whole team hates her. And then she has, she does have James, Tom, and Ariana on her team, which is good. Yeah. And Ariana ain't going to call you back. They're too into themselves. And James doesn't need to remember. At least they have, she has, she does have Tom and Eric because on my first advice would have been get an ally, which she didn't even try to do that only accidentally. What's she? Exactly. Exactly. But she, I mean, the irony is that they hate her so bad, but, but no, but there would have been probably nothing without her other than Stossy's apology tour. And then that she's going to be the, the thing with the next season. But that's every, the, in the first season, that's like tradition that started in the first season. Cause Sheena, Stossy and those girls were so, so mean to Sheena for no reason. So she boned some, so like deal a celebrity while I was married, and then I'm obsessed with it. Because she was new. Yeah. Cause yeah, she came from Villa Blanca. We don't know who is that. Why show this show? Like she's like, this is our show. I love that. And I'm sorry, how they, they didn't eat, did they have, they said they didn't want to do that. They didn't show the audition. No, they, no, they auditioned. They, I think it sounded like they auditioned. I'm like, I'm like, a wiggle who worked at Sir, they auditioned the people who worked at Sir. And then they put the whole show was because Julie, this is Julie's thing, is that the whole, and you would say like the whole entire show came because Sheena fucking, because the whole entire thing with obviously we all know with Sheena and Brandy Landville and the thing where she's like, you need to skin the, well, they held up that chart that Andy said when they give, did the chart showing how everyone was like, fucking each other, best friends, rivals, whatever. And they saw that. They were like, okay, we're going to be. But the idea for the spin off came the moment Brandy Landville sent her with like a pixen of like it, like get fucking tuna tartar fucking out of here. She fucked my ex. And then that was in all the producers who do. Because they were going to do Villa Blanca and then decided to come to Sir. Yeah. They were like, uh, let's do this. I'm sorry. Let me say one last thing about the, the classic, I mean, Julie just went over this too. She's being quiet because I'm just dominating, but she, she's still mad about my Bosch Admiral Picard joke. What it's saying. Dana. She wouldn't say that. Oh, look, I said Dana. It's just naturally me. I don't really remember the guy with a banana. Oh, okay. He was Dana. He's like 25,000. But what? 25,000. Dana Wilke is going to jail for like, like a few years now, right? Because up to 20. Up to 20. Who's Dana Wilke? 25,000. She was one of the one season one. Oh wait. Yeah. She's going to jail. Yeah. Fraud. Fraud is. I've already know what her fraud was. I'm stronger, still walking. You and I. I will never know. Wow. Dana Wilke. Because she got hit by it. You want to talk about a reality star that got hit by the bug and got off the rails. She guessed she was a friend of season two. Was that season two? Season two. It was her place for game night. I feel like it was like season four. Yeah. We saw our season two. We saw our season two. Yeah. As a friend of season three, Dana came on for one episode. She was like drunk and strangely tanned and was like talking to Taylor and like crazy looking. And now all of a sudden she's doing fraud. I mean, look at it like a downward slope. She's doing fraud. Somebody's got to do some kind of YouTube thing of the but it's data, but it's her. Dana Wilke. Dana Wilke. Yeah. Exactly. There was even another scene with Kyle and Lisa where Kyle had her dumb tragic goals. Gold. Gold. Like her. 14. Oh, I remember his name. I remember his name. What is it? It's Jordi. Oh, like that French kid of that song. Wait, Dana's who's Jordi? Oh, the guy from Star Trek. Banana clip is Jordi. Oh, Dana Wilke. Dana Wilke is the guy with the eyes. The light eyes of the animals. Yeah. And Lisa Vanderpump is obviously Lisa Vanderpump is Jean-Luc Picard. There's a Brit-Luc British and Urban Control. Like the real housewives of Star Trek. I feel like Yolanda, Yolanda, is Yolanda Wharf right? Is that saying Wharf, Wharf? She is 100% fucking Wharf. Yolanda is Wharf with the heart. Yeah, I know. You can imagine Wharf, I can be like, I'm so sorry. I cannot help you shoot today. The limes I have to be in there. Oh, you like that? Oh, I have been throwing this shit for 20 years. Come on, enough. Yeah, but who's that? Oh, my God. I got to go to bed with my limes. I can't get out of bed, my limes. I can't get out of bed, my limes. But you've got to go get out of bed. Well, you know there's like-- They're actually like two weeks ago, there was a viral video. It was a four-minute-long video of like a compilation of all the times that Wharf has been told no. And there's like apparently an all-star during the next generation. It happens all the time. Wharf is like, well, how about when we turn on the thrusters like, Wharf, you're being ridiculous. He's like, OK. It's constant. I feel this is what I feel is happening over here in Julie's Neck of the Woods. I've felt a mental note to look up star-track stuff on YouTube later. I really did because I don't think she realized there's all fun star-track videos for her to get into. And she was like thinking like, I'm going to go look up all star-track. I'm going to get like good six rounds out of that. I feel like I'm detecting that I might be able to recruit Julie for game night, for board game night. I'm getting that sense. What kind of dorky game night are we talking about? Oh, no. It's the darkest. It's the-- What is his game? He's got stacks of games. He's got stacks of games. I do. He reviews them and stuff on his-- Oh, new games. Games are still coming out in the world. Yeah. There's a whole new world. And there's a star-track version of that. Games are back. Games are back. And it's not games on computers? No, it's like board games. And the board game industry has been growing like double digits for the past four or five years. Yeah. It's huge. Give us a new one besides apples to oranges or one of those. Well, Sellers a Catan, which Ryan and I have played is great. And there's a star-track version. And there's a Catan? Settlers. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You guys. That sounds really corny. It is. Wait till you play. Wait till you play. It is so fun. My dream, actually. I have this like-- Is there a covered wagon involved? No, but you trade like-- Like it's like a five-week field. We-- You know what? You trade like weed and like stone. Listen, my dream is to actually play this with Lisa Rinna. Because I feel like playing Sellers a Catan with Lisa Rinna would be like the funniest thing. Oh, baby. Who's going to trade with me? Oh, my God, look it up. It's Catan a real place or-- I own that sheep, baby. So it's like life, but it's in Settlers. It's turf. Listen, we're going-- Okay. You know what? Here's what we're going to do on another night. We're going to all get some cocktails. I'll bust out Sellers a Catan. We're going to play it and you'll see. It'll change your life. Do you want to actually move close to the window? Because the breeze has cooled the back of my neck and it feels so much better. So it does. Of course, you're going to have to sit on my hot pillow now. Because I've been heating. Here, I'll trade this pillow with that one. We'll talk about-- Let's talk about-- move it. I thought that was well, though. Did you guys-- let's do a check-in right now. Yeah, how do you guys feel? I don't really have to talk more. Yeah. Do you like mine? And also, I want to ask you about-- Well, once we get into Real Housewives, I'll talk more. I know this is too personal, but I don't even care. Tell me about your hot husband, because you're not on Facebook. So after we went out the other night, the killer don't mess it up. Damn it. Yeah, at least you have a cool back. Okay, so I was trying to find you on-- Oh. It's okay. The dog is not walking through like a marshmallow. He's just going to make us hotter. That's why I'm making him get down. His body heat's coming in. Okay, so after we met the other night, I went to try and find you on Facebook. You're not on it. You're not on Instagram either, right? Only my dogs are on Instagram. What the hell? I know. I can't do social media. I do Twitter, but I really-- social media brings out the worst of me. It does? Yeah. Not only do it doesn't make me terribly insecure to see that people go on fun vacations and have families that care about them. Also, I know that it's not even really true, because I know that they just went on the same dumb, tragic fucking sandals vacation I went on, but they just took 900 selfies to make it look cool. Yeah. I know that it's not real, but I can't help it. And also, I'll end up in someone I don't even know's whole life. And then that will ruin it. I don't even know this person. I just read it on the pot. I mean, I'm not really that into it either, but it's how I find people that I meet from parties, you know? Yeah, I think it's good and people can handle it for me. It's like toxic. Then I now realize 100 years later, after never doing Facebook, that I'm super, super private. Because I never thought about that before. Like, oh, I don't do it because I'm too private, but I just realize now that, like, sometimes we'll be having times and I'll be thinking, like, I don't make private fucking business out there. Like, I don't know. It's like a weird. Yeah. Like, I don't want, I don't know. Well, I was googling you. Anyway, you're trying to find where the hell you were. It's like a contact to you. Are you so married to that guy? Yes. You are right. Yeah. What? The Holy Frick. How do you ever leave your house? That guy is good gorgeous. I watched his entire six minute reel. And my sister was like, please trust me. I want to see. She's like, what is this? And I said, it's Brandi's husband's reel. He's an actor. She's like, oh, he's hot. And I was like, yeah, she goes, let's watch something else. I was like, it's not over. Oh, man. I watch the whole thing. So cute. That's my whole question. That's why I'll never be an interviewer. It's not the same. No, yes, we're so married. And yeah, you know, just whenever you think, like, how does someone ever leave your house? Just tell yourself this. No matter how hot the person is, there's someone in the world that's tired of fucking them. Yes. That's, and they're like that. That sums up benefit rules, isn't it? Yeah, pretty much. Good. That was a good second. So, do you want to talk about? So, here's basically, like, Elizabeth's scenes of the reunion. I mean, I think the first thing we have to talk about the reunion, we were talking about Lala a moment ago. We have to talk about that makeup. We have to talk about Lala's makeup. What is happening there? I mean, for Lala, I think that she wasn't even drag me makeup. That was, like, some airbrush that went wrong. Do you want to tell them that you thought it might be up? I thought maybe she was doing, like, a super genius move where, if she thought she looked like a Disney supervillain, that it would, like, bring, it would make her the attention in the room. Yes. Or, like, we've discussed before, like, that. We have a theory about Nini. Right. Remember Nini with her weird wig? Yes. Which. Yeah. The one that was, like, right at Frankenstein? Yeah. There's that one. Oh, yeah. She's 10. There's even the new ones. She's been wearing a weird, long weave. I mean, she'll pull out a look for the testimonial. You're, like, what? Yeah. Yeah. And we believe there was even one where she'll look chin to five o'clock chatting. Yeah. Yeah. Nini seems to know she's a ski ball machine. She's, like, just let the balls go and let people aim. But Lala doesn't even act evil. Yeah. But, no, but then Brenda is, like, she doesn't really have it like that or whatever. Because we believe that Nini wasn't, we believe she does Nini does those looks wholeheartedly. And by we, I mean me, but Julie agrees. That Nini does those looks because she knows I'm not, I don't have a storyline. Yeah. But I'm going to come correct in the, in the testimonial. Give me something to talk about. Body rate style. And the only thing you're going to talk about is my George Washington wig, my five o'clock show. Makeup. And we do. Yeah. So we really thought that maybe Lala was coming like that. No, but Lala's, this is the thing she's not, she doesn't, she can't harness her energies like that. She, she just tried. Something went wrong. It's like she put on her makeup, like under black. No, they have like that artist. She was an artist. Makeup artist. Yeah. It's something, it looked like they had taken like a spray gun or something like that of makeup. It was all wrong. I think she hadn't heard that they had cast me in with someone yet. Yeah. I thought it was very, I thought they were going to get a complete model to play Nina Simone. I'm going for it. I thought it was very, it was very Charlie in the chocolate factory. Did you guys love it? Yeah. By the way, you turn it by, by the way. Did you guys love the episode when she was not with the whole thing about eating the ass? Oh, you have to say a louder. Did you guys love the episode of the whole thing about her eating ass? Thank you. I want the gardener to know about, we love eating ass in here. It was so, you don't, you don't remember. I remember the eating the ass episode. Oh my God. I love the ass where James was like, it's disgusting babe. Oh, yeah. With him. Of course. And she's like, oh yeah. That was good. That was a big egg. That is none of your personal needs. I feel like I do on my own time. I love it. She knows. That's what he said. You have a stupid thing to say. Because he said something, she goes, that's a stupid thing to say. You have a stupid thing to say. You're a stupid thing to say. Oh yeah. You're a stupid thing. And she's like, hey, you know what? We all get freaky. And by the way, Julie and I, she has showed us a picture of that guy's deck involved. Which one? James? No. She's like, guys. She's fucking... Oh, I'll... She did. She would not show us his face. She only showed us. La La showed you guys. She... Oh, Ben, you guessed it. And I was like, I'll bet that's a black guy. I guess she said he's a football player. No, they said on the show that he was... Maybe they didn't ask him black. She was a player. I just remember this from Adam. She liked guys. And I think they said she liked black guys. We literally did a toast to like her like in black guys. Yeah. Oh, it does ain't wrong. She put your black guy penis into Julie's face. It's horrible. And we're in a bathroom. Yeah, we're like literally in that pump in a bathroom with all julies and nearly bombing. We're in a bathroom. And after the eating ass episode, I was on a mission. Talk about Googling. I was in so fucking deep trying to find this guy. I just wanted to see his face. Because I want to know, is he fatter skinny? Because if he's a linebacker and you're eating his ass and if he's a quarterback and you're eating his ass. Two different things. That's two very two different things. Yeah. Very different. Yeah. Very, very different. Yeah. I just need to know. Oh, there's a reason gay guys have so much sex in gyms because there's a shower. Okay. Right. I tried her. I was like, get down. Do your. Oh, yeah. Lana is too. She's got too much hope right, I think, to be on a reality show because she's too subtle. Like she'll keep everybody's secrets. Like all this stuff she's talking that Andy keeps asking. He's trying to hint around at her hope past. You know, he's like, so Italy. Basically, from what I've read on the old internet in the comment sections, she was a yacht girl. Which is, you know, where they fly these hot girls out. The hooker. Like, on below Jack, when the millionaire shows up and he's got like six girls. Yeah. She's one of those girls like on the yacht. But supposedly they get peed on or something. There's like some weird thing. Well, she said at least and they like it's not even about having sex with them. It's mostly degrading them in weird ways, like peeing on them and stuff. And then, you know, they get to go on a boat and maybe go to what buffet or something. But they do definitely, I think. Yeah. Well, she said. Well, she's like, I'm the only one. Like, I was the only one not having sex with people on that trip. I'm like, really in a group of 10 o's. You get out of here. Like, you're on now. Yeah. Well, but it's be easy. She's pretty up front about it. But I think that she would, I think she would say if she was having sex. I think she'd be like, yeah, I boned him. I liked it. So what are you going to do? I like him. You know, I think that, you know, Lala. Credit Karma makes building your credit straightforward and stress free with help from our credit builder. Sign up today at Credit Karma dot com and start enhancing your financial health. Credit Karma, your partner in building a brighter financial future. Credit Builder Plan is serviced by Credit Karma Credit Builder and requires a line of credit and savings account provided by Cross River Bank member FDIC. Why get all your holiday decorations delivered through Instacart? Because maybe you only bought two Reese but have 12 windows. Or maybe your toddler got very eager with the advent calendar. Or maybe the inflatable snowman didn't make it through the snowstorm. Or maybe the twinkle lights aren't twinkling. Whatever the reason, this season Instacart's here for hosts and their whole holiday haul. Get decorations from the Home Depot, CVS, and more through Instacart and enjoy free delivery on your first three orders. Service fees and terms apply. I don't know. I don't know. She didn't admit. She was the only one. They said when they were talking about life who's done girl and girl. When she said who's been doing, when she's been asked to her like, who's done girl and girl. She said it did done girl and girl except for her. She's like, no, I actually haven't. I think if she were a liar, I think she would have just chimed in to try something cool. I think she was like, I think she's pretty upfront about it. I think she's an innocent girl for a ho. She has lines. She'll get peed on or make out with the girl at a party. When it comes to down there sexy, no, that's for love, guys. Love eating is different. Okay, so here's my notes. They're really confusing. Tom's makeup. Okay, everyone's talking about walleyes makeup. What about Tom's makeup? He's orange. That's all I had to say. No one else cares. You want to move on? Yeah, we talked about all this, right? I mean, it was just Kristin, only other things were like we did not think it was a great reunion episode. I thought it was sort of like a retread of all the same stuff of like was Kristin having sex with Tom having sex. It was all kind of the same stuff. My favorite thing were Sheena's reactions and Katie's reactions because everything Sheena had this like look on her face, like her eyes were bold and she would screw up her mouth and then she would like smile, the next job would be her smiling and then she would be Andrew again and then Katie, Katie had this one shot that I put out, I actually recorded put it on my Instagram, my Instagram is be subblog if anyone's funny, but because she had this moment where they just cut to her and she was like laughing along nervously as that she had no idea what the joke was, but she wants to be part of it. And I also love when Tom gets really mad and starts yelling at Kristin, I think that is so funny. Kristin, wait, who said this, Tom or James, they said she would leave for an hour and she'd get mad go up to the Hollywood Hill, get some ass and then come back an hour later and her face would smell like but he has a real issue with that, you know James is like a master. He is the master of the comeback, you know, I like his mouth, that's basically what it is, it's like you're just like an insecure stupid little British kid. No, you are Kristin, you are an insecure stupid little British kid, you're not even British, you are. Great one James, you really killed it. Okay, well let's move on to Beverly Hills, do you guys have to pee? No, I do not, do you? Do you guys? I don't need to take a pee break. I mean seriously, pee time. We're gonna forgo the pee. Should we take a pee and refill this? I'm getting drunk, I wasn't even gonna drink. Yeah, let's stop just so we can take a moment. Okay, so let's move on to this week's episode of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, which was very, there was a lot of stuff to talk about with it. So the episode began, it opened up with Yolanda, getting her makeup done for limes. I have my makeup done for three months, what do you say 11 months? She's like, what makeup for 11 months as if it's like some of her accomplishments, you know. I think she doesn't like what's the makeup fucking on. Everything she does, she feels this in accomplishment with Yolanda. Every single thing like, you know, I haven't been outside for so long, my love, but I'm gonna walk two steps, my love, everyone, look at my Instagram, I walk two steps, look at me, I'm walking home, my eyes are open, everyone, my love, my eyes are open. I love her selectively, my eyes are open, how about I go get my love, I have plenty of years. It's been so long, it's been able to use tissues, but then I can, so look at cry for me, cry for me. She's so full of shit, she's been wearing, we see you wearing makeup, like do you think that because of your eyeshadow is brown and you're wearing like community theater pancake base, that's not makeup, I know she thinks it's a fresh face. Well, you're also putting bleach in your hair is bleached, okay, those roots are like, you know, they're bleached, okay, and guess what bleach is, it's chemicals, it's not like from a pinecone. I paused it right when she said that it was like vomiting outwards, and then I pressed play and she's like, oh, even Botox will fill us for years, for trees, I'm like, hold on that, you have a filler line on your cheek, well, there's like a straight line going up and down from like the dent of the filler, and then she goes like this to get more makeup on and her forehead doesn't move. I bet you do you think you're kidding. She's also like, it's amazing, you know, now that I have stuff with the Botox and the Botox, it's amazing what happens to the face, I'm like, yeah, it's called being a human being, it's what happens to our faces. I noticed one different thing with her face. Yeah, first of all, also, she's like beautiful, so unless she probably doesn't have to do anything, because she's naturally stunning, you know, white jeans, or let me to white jeans. She just has a very selective journey, it's like, I can't go to Pasadena, I'm so tired, but oh, I'm going to go up to Toronto to go on a boat, like it's weird when she gets tired and what she can do. And then wants to go to Pasadena. That is true. I know. So sorry, you guys. No one should also even go to Toronto. Yeah. Well, I am going into weeks, although they both, do you have a cheesecake factory? Let's get credit where credit is due, okay? To be fair, to be fair, I feel like I was just in Pasadena and I am going to Toronto and to every week, so Pasadena is so beautiful, but damn it's so far, I can't believe they have someone in Pasadena, that shit doesn't even count. Malibu, this cast is Malibu and Pasadena. Katherine lives in San Diego, I'm like, how's wives? Beverly Hills, like you live in San Diego, get the fuck out of my face. She has like a pepeta tear on like, palm drive or something like that. I literally, Pasadena is my high school, that's where I go and pretend I drive on the rich streets of the old old country. Yes, because it's like, like Northeast, like Monday day, like shingles. And I'm like, if someone high school would have been, I would have been in a convertible white Mercedes and I would have been, my parents would have been rich, my dad is like, an orthodontist, and my mom also is an important something in dentistry or something. And I would be here and I'd be rich, maybe I'm Asian, I'm not even, I'm an Asian, they're just not even rich Asians. Yeah. It's my dream high school scene. That's totally nice. Pasadena. Pasadena is so far and yet, but whenever time I do go, I'm like, oh my God, I love it here. It's so pretty and so nice. And there's like, there's a Lee's sandwich is there, which has the best Vietnamese ice coffee. I'm just good at that one strip where there's all the cheesecake back. Yeah. Old town. Yeah. And it winds a noble instead. Yeah. Yeah. Huge trees that have been around since the 1800s. Yeah. Like wow. I'm just from America's house. Does look very Pasadena. It's like a million different patterns from the 70s. Is this your Tom? Tom's are all done ripples. Tom's are all done ripples. Tom's a variety. Yes, Tom's a variety. Yeah. So she's getting ready. Oh, because I'm so loud. I figure the poor people in the car is like, oh, it's going to let her step out. That's a girl. I'll go over there. We're doing, we're going to do musical chairs here. The award. Trying to be too far away. I know, but it's like summer in here. I'm so loud. My fucking neighbors know everything I'm seeing. So anyway, so Yolanda's getting makeup on. But then that's kind of me awards. It's even making makeup into like a pivotal, yeah, feet in her journey back from the, from the. I felt my feet in 17 years. Now, David, oh no, David, I'm so sorry. Oh, I've been such a horrible wife because I've been sick and oh, I've been just sucking dick every day. David. Sorry. David. Oh, David. Oh, he's been so wonderful to me. Well, I've been on down. It's been horrible. It's been so horrible for him. No, not yet. How he's gay. I can't. I can't. I can't. He really. Kind of. I've heard that from someone else who saw gay stuff happening at the house. Really? What do you bring? Like choir, boys who come and they're like, like, he'll devo from the basement. Yeah. He locks into the basement. Right. Then they bring him up after dinner. That's so rude. Yeah. So we can't say for sure. But someone did say that they saw me. David on the DL. I like it. That's part of my husband. That's a frightening thought, though, that waddle coming at you. Could you imagine that thing being above you? It's him. Yeah. He's coming down. Well, maybe that would explain why she's depressed. I mean, we all agree. I mean, like, we, I mean, she's obviously sick, but like, I think a lot of people believe that it's probably more related to depression than Lyme disease, be, of course, that none of us are doctors, right? I am a doctor. If you were gay, if you were gay, that would certainly be the sort of thing that I think would probably send a wife into some sort of, like, illness creating depression. Well, she had something with a hand with Mohammed due to an illness. Yeah, he said. Yeah. No, no, that's, that's public. Oh, it is? Yeah. He said, he said that she was sick the whole time they were together. And then on Dr. Oz, on Dr. Oz, she said, um, his doctor Oz said, here's, here's a stack of your medical records were which the thing, planet fitness or whatever in Chinatown. God knows where these were from. They weren't doctors. But it was like a stack this big and he was going through a history and he said, you were hospitalized when you were 7, 11, it was like every four years. And it was all exhaustion related things. And then she said, well, my mother was always in bed, she was in bed five days a week with the windows closed. So it's a, it's a depression, guys, it's a depression attention. I'm upset. And the fact, and she's probably so mad at Lisa Rinna for, she keeps on saying that Lisa Rinna accused her of having much housing, which is not what happened. Let me see that. But no, but it's not, but it's not really what happened. Then she brought it up and said you had much housing and I'll say it on TV 20 times. Yeah, but no, but, but it was your long, it was your long to exasperated that whole situation. I'm not sure. You'll want to kill them. Oh, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she. Yeah, so situation. All of a sudden, she doesn't speak English at all. The fact that she acts like she, the fact that she would like pretends like it's some crazy thing, much as, and she gets so mad at Lisa Rinna or whatever, it kind of actually just like, thou doth protest too much or whatever, you know? And then she purposely read the wrong definition. When she came at Lisa, yeah, she did the fight proxy. And then that made everyone so uncomfortable. But then this, you're going to get to it, but then the same with Brandy, there was another English issue. She was like, what does this mean? I'm like, what the fuck? All of a sudden? What does this mean? So yeah. English last year? What is digital wig? Yeah. What does this mean? What does this mean? What does this mean? What does this mean? Oh gosh, I can't believe she's like, it's like, you know, when, you know, it's like, it's like, that when people talk about people who are not like original English speakers, go ahead and jury duty. How they communely don't understand any English throughout a jury duty. That's like what Yolanda is all this time. I can never see her struggle with things. What does this mean? So much ever. She's just fine to form. So meanwhile, it's via Pasadena, over in Pasadena, Erica is also getting, she's getting ready for Dubai, and she has her, she has her like, her, her hangers on. And then you go all this progresser/packer/bringinhertee, I mean, how many guys are you checking me out? This is like, these are like, the most fawning gig guys, we've seen a lot of glam squads on Bravo. Well, I just want to say, and maybe this is too soon into the episode. Please, no. Never too soon. Never too soon. She's bringing, so she says in that thing, she's like, I'm bringing my glam squad. I mean, do that. Because I can't. And I'm like, okay, fine. And no one ever admits that, too. And they all hide in the garage. That's why I was in the garage. But I don't even have them. That's cool. Do you have a lookbook for your vacation? Like, okay. But no. That is so amazing, too. But Lisa Vanderpump, by the way, looks gorgeous and whatever in her Moo Moo conversion totally outclassable on. Sorry. No one of those gig, and not one of the women, and not one of those gay guys wants to bring up the fact that they're going to a place where every one of those fucking guys will get killed. Yes. Look, it's down. Let's not just, they could get full on murdered, and it would be fine. Yeah. Yes, I guess so hard to be gay. I mean, those eyebrows, I can't believe the customs doesn't stop them because they're eyebrows. This is just a window into me and Julie. She wasn't, she was in a mood. So she wouldn't watch it the night it was on. Oh, girl. It's a divide. She goes, "Oh, I fucking will. Not tonight. I can't. I'm pissed, too." Yeah, it's me. Someone wrote that on her Facebook page, too. All I'm watching. I'm watching. And I'm like, Lisa, and this whole thing, and Lisa looks so pretty, and Lisa's hair is up. So, Sally, I'm like Lisa's hair, and Julie's like this fucking Wikipedia entries are coming in. But Dubai! All she's sending me is shit about Dubai. I read the entire US immigrants wiki page. Dubai. Dubai is totally shady. My friend lives in Dubai, and she says that if you're a foreigner, if you're driving, you are stopped at an intersection, and a native Dubai. Yeah. We jarred that many people by the way, it's one family. The entire country is run by a group of workers like a cruise ship. Yeah. If you're a resident, and you're a drunk driving, and you crash, and they crash into your car, and you're just sitting there, you're totally, you know what I'm talking about? It's your fault, because you shouldn't have been there in the first place, that's what they say. Oh, God. I was looking at women, right? Because I was like, "I know that bravo." They're like women right there. I know that the whole point of bravo is like women to meaning other women, so I guess they would kind of make sense. Did New York go there? Did New York go down there? No, they went to Morocco. Remember, this is not the Plaza Hotel. This is Morocco. They're all the same. I'm like, "Vercas," and fucking, I know. Many shows have gone to Dubai. People love to glamorize Dubai. I'm not going to fucking have it. Well, also, Dubai's a hacky as shit, by the way. It's like Vegas. It's the largest. It's gorgeous. All right, so before we get into Dubai, there's still some stuff before, because then we'll go into it. That was just a window. I agree. They're talking about Lisa's hair up, and she'll be like, "This is what they do to women. This is what they do to gay people. Everyone should change. I read that shit from Aria. And I was shocked. They don't even respect Jean-Luc Picard." I was shocked that they don't outlaw fillers and botox and shit, because they're under Sharia law. And so, I thought, "How can they have fillers?" And I thought, "You can't stone a bitch with a rubber face." By the way, that rock will come back. I don't know if you're right in the face. I don't know if you know this, but the new cast member of Beverly Hills is named Sharia law. I don't know if you know. No, I'm not sure. I know. I wouldn't believe that. She has a fabulous car that runs her over while she's trying to get out of it. I'm not strict, but I do make the rules. It's Sharia law. Sharia. It's my fault. Sharia law. It's Sharia. We have a fake Real Housewives woman named Gondola Price, being ended, because we're talking about some episode where they gone to a Gondola, and we're like, "Gondola sounds like one of the Real Housewives." We don't put that in Gondola Price. That's a good one. So, we'll plug her in every day. This is my alter ego, Purdue. That's some shitly. Erica is getting ready, and her gays are fawning over it. My favorite part, though, is they're like, "Gee-bye, we're going to jee-bye." And they're like, "Oh, but we're not flying with it." They're going to be on riot air with 10 layovers, staying at the hostel onto the bird retention. Listen, if you all get murdered, you're on minimum wage, okay? Punch out before you can kill. That's where the bomb will happen, is where all the makeup artists work. Good luck, for sure. And could there ever be further evidence of someone who has more time on their hands than a housewife in Pasadena who has three gays come over to go over their lookbook for the vacation. That's just like, you know, listen, if you've got all the money and you could do with it, sure that's great, but I mean, that's like... Bear, amazing. She's got everything. She's got all the money. Come on, you're going to fuck. That's what we always say. Everything's like, "I'm going to fuck. I got to look back. I'm going to bring my gays." And then she's like, "Wands a diamond." And she's like, "Um, now that I know who's next to him, you know what?" But she calls him the boss or whatever. She calls him. She's like, "I just texted to his assistant." And then I say, "Maybe he could get me this." I'm like, "She has access to none of the money. She can hire staff, which will go somehow into a payroll, but to be like, "I'm simply going to buy myself this diamond with all of his millions." Yeah, her problem is that she's walking around with Minnie Ho. You know, like her intern Ho. And she's like, "Okay, we need money for pool tiles. We need money for it to fix the grass. We need money for a new light bulb." And she's like writing it all there. She's probably like bored and miserable up in that castle every day and passing it in. Like she goes out, she does Erica Jane and she's like dancing around and doing stuff like that. But when she's not doing that, she's probably just like sitting in there with like, you hear the grandfather clock ticking and she's like, "Okay, I love that." She's waiting for the old Tom to kick the bucket. It's just like that money. So then she starts doing a photo shoot with her days and she's like on a table and Kyle walks in. And Ronnie, you wrote down that Kyle comes from the Wednesday Adams outfit. Yeah, it was calling her Wednesday. She was dressing like a home girl that like, there's Erica like her ass in there. Erica on the coffee table on all fours. Yeah. Yeah, the makeup artist is like, "Can I just get a shot of you so that I can say it in your makeup in this event?" And then all of a sudden she's in like some full like hustler pose with someone like eating her out from behind. Totally. She is at that level. I'm like, "How did you get from like a simple snapshot of your makeup to your modeling shoot on the top of the table?" Her pre-line gala. That's what I love. She's like, "I'm going to let gala. Let's get some instant of being out of that." The Legatomy Awards. She's like, "Let's get some shots of me in doggy style right before this serious disease." Well, you know, when we talked about this before in previous episodes with Erica, what's so strange to us about Erica also is that, you know, she is, you know, totally with the gays. She loves the gays. The gays love her and everything. We like Erica a lot. We do. Even if we give her shit. And, you know, she plays gay clubs. And yet, considering how much time she spends to the gays and that she's always around gay guys, she never seems to be like one of these gals. It's just like gabbing with the gays. You know, doesn't she still seem like really like black? I think Ben called it one. I think that the gays are making fun of her. I don't think that they're, yeah, because look what they're putting her in. They can't think that's good. Right. I know it sounds like a real friendship. No, like a real relationship. They're like on the payroll. I think they're having fun. They've played dress-up with her. They've played dress-up with her. Yeah. I don't know. It's weird. It's weird. It happens to me. She doesn't seem like the worst. Like Lisa Vanderbump, you feel like she sort of like has fun with her gay friends. She doesn't seem like even when with any of her employees, even that goddamn housekeeper, who's like a celebrity to us. I really see her. My queen. Well, those are your boys. I feel like she is. But I feel like with any of her employees, she actually seems like she has a real relationship with them. Yeah. And that vibe. And I do feel like those guys are using Erica to get the girl. Let me just get my 500 and go put this bitch in some cotton that glows. Exactly. It's like when the legal issue was on shots, the sunset, she had her glam squad come in. Like, you know, I just always am. I'm always suspicious of like a Corvo glam squad. To me. It's like they're on the payroll and all. And all if the entire conversation is them telling you how hot you look and how great you look. And it's like this is not like a real, I don't want to say a real friendship, but this is not a real conversation. Right? What is the conversation? You look great. You look. Oh, no. That looks great. Not that looks great. I haven't seen one genuine friend of Erica's. Yeah. We haven't seen one. And I don't see that. No one can trust her and fuck her, but she's like, she has these walls up. And I mean, like, I definitely think she's guarded and I'm not even sensing. She probably just doesn't put them on camera. Catherine's obviously tools, but did say this about Erica. Yeah. She puts these walls up. I did think she did kind of seem, I thought she seems so sweet and so supportive with Yolanda when Yolanda got all of her syllables. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Erica. Yes. I think Erica's a good friend to Yolanda for sure. Yeah. I've sensed some like really, I think that's shown her kind side. But other than that, like. There's like a world that she's not putting on camera. That's what I get the sense of. I don't feel like. She's also scared guys. Like, you know what? Let's just do this. That's probably true too. That's why I didn't want to say it's not a real friendship. It doesn't seem like it's a real interaction. I don't think it's real because none of the other women even know that this woman is. They've all been shooting with her for years. They've never heard of this best friend camera. I don't believe that. That they're even friends. I think it's for the show. She probably knew her. Oh, no. Lisa did tell us that it wasn't real. But I mean. Well, that's why she was hinting. How long have you known that? Yeah. I didn't like it. You were tying my relationship. You were questioning it. No, it wasn't. Yes, you were. I was wondering if you were saying why are you asking? Because I was wondering. Yes. They get stuck on weird shit. But do you think that she-- That's like us going like this. Okay, you guys. The cameras are coming in. Don't say how we all just did 500 things of crystal meth. Let's just talk about my lookbook. Yeah. Cool. And then it's all about, but is there a real relationship behind them? What do you guys think? Behind the camera? Behind it? With anybody? No, I mean with the game. You don't think she's friends with any of those guys? Erica's choreographer is a famous choreographer. She's very successful. Tom pays for her whole career. She just started it a few years ago. She'd been married for years and got bored. And so he bought her a career. So he got her the best choreographers. All her dancers, when she was at that party at her house. And Kyle was like, "You're a Katy Perry dancer, too." Like she looks at the resumes of the guys. These are not those random gays. These are like worked out, like complete perfectly bodied gays for David. Are famous. And so she gets Katy Perry's dancers. That's a make you Katy Perry lady. Yeah, I think that I feel like, I feel like that's a real friendship. I don't know how close they are and how could I know. But I do feel like interactions on camera are just like, I feel like they're not real. And I actually think it makes gay guys look bad. It just makes it look like gay guys just like the party. Oh, the party? Oh, yeah. The Target party? It was a party when the pool party, right? The gay guys were like zoo animals, right? Like they're like... There was no one there. There was no one even there. I was really sad. I was really sad. We need 10 gay guys to go in the pool. And the women are having... It looked like Q laughing. Like they were laughing for the camera. And then the women were having like sort of like, well, I wouldn't say it was an adult conversation. It's still pretty immature. But they were like talking like normal people. And then they cut to the gay guys. They were like... Exactly. It was like, oh, this is what gays are. They're like, no. One of those big beach ball things to each other. It was like literally where are the motherfucker's friends? Yeah, I know. Like where's her random... I don't think she has that. I don't think she has that. Even if it's just your weird neighbor. I think she's just kind of an ice queen. She's like sold out her personality to get married to some old rich dude. Now she's, you know, happy. So sad. Wow. But then she comes in the housewives and she's hip and cool because she'll say, conned and cushing in South gay guys. And none of them do that. And to a novice housewives person, she's like, they like, they love her. Yeah. They love her. It's gonna, I guarantee season two, it'll change because they're gonna want to dig deeper. And right now it's just like, it's like every two years, everyone's got to take a good go at Lisa Vanderpump. And then like, so it's like, this is a Lisa Vanderpump attack season. And then what's gonna happen is all the fans love Lisa and what says, why are you going after Lisa's? And then everyone, of course corrects like, wait a second, the fans don't like overdoing this. So now they're going to, they're going to go up to Eric. Oh, they're like, she doesn't like what's going on in her life. Like, whatever. It's true. Kyle Richards will be the church. Right. So anyway, so over New York, so now we have as you call it running the Lime Academy Awards, which is this gigantic gala. I was actually shocked at how big it was. All rich people. All rich people. Yeah, it's very fast. It's very in now. Yeah. If you have lots of acreage, there's lots of deers on it. Yeah. Well, no, here's the thing. I mean, if you're in the North East, you can get, if you're in the North East, you can get it just like walking apart. But the thing that bothers, it's a, lime disease is a serious disease and it really is bad. It does terrible things to you. And it's a, it's a horrific thing. And I think it's great to raise money for it. But sometimes the way they, like, if this gala, the way they carry on, it's just like, this is like, this is like such a weird thing. Oh, I'm so sorry. Okay. I did it to me. We had a sparrow. This is pleather. This is, this is, and this, that was just water. No, nothing even came out of it. I think it was melted ice. It was like skinning the roll, smelling. But we should take this off you though. Oh, yes. Put some in my cup first. Yes. Thank you. We have all these electronics. We have a bottle of skinny girl. I'm not going to have any trouble. Okay, wait. So, yeah. Climate's real, but chronic climate is different. Because you know, Linda's not saying she has Lyme. She didn't go test and get a test, a blood test for Lyme. She's saying chronic Lyme. That's like a million different diseases that they can't explain. This is what I'm doing. Yes. Yes. Well, they have, well, I don't know. Yes. They have something, they have something like a post, like a post treatment sort of condition that you can get. Yeah. But I guess that's like a flip. Do the kids have chronic Lyme too? Yes. Well, that's what they have chronic Lyme. She said, she said it. She said it on there at the gala. She said, my kids have chronic Lyme. Oh, that's what I'm going to tell you. And there's no test? And that's what, yes. I think here's what's, here's what's, here's what's hard. That's what my home is. Here's what's hard for me. And this is what I, this is where I feel like I really understand Lisa Rina on this, which is that like, like, how can any human being look at a gala of people who've got Lyme disease who have been affected physically by this disease and be like, oh, they're making too much of a big deal about it. Because it's a disease. It's a real disease, so you're feeling shitty for saying they're making too much of a big deal about it. But then there's a part of me that's like, you know, when people are like dying of cancer, you know, like dying of it, not to say, I'm not trying to make a glider of Lyme disease. Yeah, no, but like, but when it's like, like, oh no, I know, like, Ali Hilfiger has Lyme disease too. It's like, well, guess what? Like, tons of people get Lyme disease and it's a terrible thing, but it's also like people get treated or whatever. You're scared. You're really told, Julie, I have known people with straight up full blown AIDS, not even HIV, full blown AIDS, who have pulled it together and complained less than this motherfucker. Like, I swear to you. Yeah. Like, the level of her, like, this debilitating of this disease, it's exhausting. Yeah, it's just, I think it's the whole, no, I think it's the whole big and probably didn't even mention it and die one day later. People are saying that, but I think it's just the way it's, it's the way the conversation's being had. And so the thing is, like, if you'll want to hear this, you'd be like, how could they question my journey? How can they question my journey? It's not about questioning the journey, but it's the way... Why is the journey, God damn it, this does not sound like summer camp. Yeah. It would, it would be great if there was a cure. Absolutely. It's great that people are raising money for it. Absolutely. But the way they talk about it is like, like, my life was perfectly normal and then I found out that I had, like, a genetic mutation that... Now I have full blown lines. It's like, that's not the same. It's like, you're bitten by a tick. And that didn't, everyone of the things seemed to be saying, no, the, the, the, like, prevalent thing of the, like, the through line of the whole event was like, no one believes you have. Our struggle is really that I look at the outside. And Ronnie, you just fucking changed my, like, literally laying in a tanning bed on my things to Julie going out. I understand. Can you take a simple test? Take a simple test. It's a huge controversy because last year, there's like a, this, this global Lyme Alliance is a lobbying organization. And they're lobbying to get chronic Lyme and it happened last year. Some states recognize it as an actual disease because the CDC didn't for a long time because it's all these different diseases. And the trouble is, is that now the doctor, if you have chronic fatigue or any of these other diseases... Or to diagnose. They say, okay, this is chronic Lyme or whatever. And then they could do whatever they want because they're not regulated the same way that there's normal Lyme arrays. So all these doctors are fucking people over. I mean, your lunges treatments are insane, but what she's doing is nuts. Crazy. So if that is now legal, then they can start challenging insurance. It's a huge fucking racket. Yeah. That's what I thought. I said, the bitch is glued intolerant with regular Lyme disease. She's regular Lyme disease that the guy from Holognaotaz, which sucks and is a nightmare. Yeah, absolutely. But then she's eating gluten and now her whole shit is like, well, plus you know her silicones explode up into her chest. And that was good. She got that removed. That was real. That was really changed. Yeah, it's weird. And that's a thing because no one's questioning the illness. No one's questioning that she is ill. No one is questioning people who have Lyme disease and being like, you're faking it. Like, suck it up. It's just, it's just the way it's being discussed at this gala was so over the top of my thoughts. But there are parts of it. But there are parts of it that are not real. There are parts of it that aren't real. They're part. Yeah. So it's like she's definitely trying to like do weird thing with attention and depression and we'll have to say that there are physical things that are happening and Lyme disease is a separate thing. And she has Lyme disease, but she also has fucking attention disease. Yeah, we go. Yeah, she has. She has a mental vision round died like big ants. Yes. Literally cancer. Two days. It was like, you're alive. She's on a show like just like big ants. You're not tweeting shit with an IV, my navic eyes. It's like there's one thing happening. You're sick and that sucks and it's terrible. And but then there's another thing. Well, you're just fucking annoying. And like literally DM is on a TV show where she's doing challenges and then literally like within a week, she's dead. Yeah. And it's like suck. Honestly. I mean, this is me. I'm the worst. I lack empathy and someone should stone me in a fucking street. But like suck it fucking up. I don't want to hear it. Throw on some makeup and let's do this thing. Oh, yeah. Complain about it tomorrow. Yeah, exactly. Or complain about it to your family. Why is it? Don't probably lie on TV. I mean, how many of you told in this one episode? She's obviously lying chronically. Everything is out of her mouth. It's a lie. Yeah, it's a lie. It's a million times on this one show. To me, what was the most amazing part and I see you sort of wrote down your notes here, Ronnie was so Kyle was there and Catherine and Kyle's there. And she's like, whoa, this is so big. And whoa, there's Tommy Hilfiger. And wow, this is like fancy and it's like all of a sudden you see all these power brokers. You see all this money, you see celebrity, everything and suddenly Kyle's like, oh, wow, I really do understand Yolanda now. And now she's like, you know, it makes me mad that Lisa and Lisa were so insensitive. It makes me mad. I'm like, oh, I see, you see where the celebrities are? You're like on Yolanda's side. And he's like a Gigi shed that tear while Kyle's pussy got wet. And Kyle's like, it's like my new pair is Hilton like Kyle was feeling it sweating it so hard. And Kyle started all this shit in the first place. Kyle is the worst. She starts every little thing. So now she's starting to turn against Lisa. She's like, I just wish I had been more defensive. She must turn against Vanderpump. I mean, even though we're just at this one scene. I had my full remorse, which happens to me when next week's episode makes me want to die. Like, I'm like the preview for next week, like this is all like, this is all a prelude. Like, and I've been, we've been wondering for weeks, like when is the, when does it all fall apart because we know just from our word on the street that by the reunion, no one's friends with Vanderpump except Catherine. Wow. So we're just wondering, which is what seeing little tees is like, what is it going to fall apart next? Like, is this next week? Well, this is what happened every three years. Every, every, every two or three seasons. Everyone goes after go against Vanderpump. That was the only thing that made her even acceptable. Well, you know why? You know why? Remember, Lisa Rina said the most manipulative person is Yolanda. And so if they're all against Lisa Vanderpump at the end of this, well, then who do you think Ork should have that? I mean, who has been, who has been pushing, who has been pushing the narrative that Lisa's been coming from my family. Lisa's been doing this. And I lean too, and I lean. Even if you're in the middle of it and you're like, oh, my husband, where's Mauricio? Where's Portia, my kid? Even if you're in the middle that doesn't seem common sense, I'm never going to come for Lisa. I'm going to stay with Lisa as my ally. Like, it's Israel, Palestine, so I'm serious. They have egos, you know, because they all have egos, you know, they are reality stars, they're egos. And if they start to get the feeling that they're being manipulated for someone else's gain on TV to improve their fame, whatever, it pisses them off. So no matter how much they look at something pragmatically and they think, okay, Lisa's the star, the fans love Lisa, she has yet to be dethroned. I should not abandon her, they can't help it because they get so mad to think that their star might be shrinking to help Lisa's game. And Kyle's not, we heard, is this true, you guys, that Kyle's done. No, Kyle will never be done. I don't believe it. Where did we hear that? We heard that she, we heard on hot TV or something. From Lisa Vanderplund or something. We heard that she, that fucking, you know, Kathy Hilton got her to not do. No, Kyle said that. Okay, so you remember when she wasn't invited to the wedding? Yes, of course. And then she got invited with a couple of the kids, but some of the kids in Mauricio didn't get to go. So right after that Rick, Kathy's husband was on TMZ and they're like, Hey, what do you think about this real housewives Kyle stuff? And he's like, well, Kyle apologized and she's told us that she's decided to quit the show. So we're okay with her now. Oh, it's a wire. I'm sure Kyle decided to quit so she can go to that fucking Hilton wedding. Because Rick hates Mauricio. But yeah, so Mauricio wouldn't stole all his clients. That's right. Yeah, Mauricio, Kyle's a sneaky man. She is. She will always be somewhere and she can get more business for her husband or a free fat burger. She said goodbye Mauricio, take the clients, but I'll be at the Hilton wedding in England. She left Mauricio, but she took his business cards. Yeah, I'm sure. You know, she didn't care about that wedding. And she's like, Oh, she's sitting at home. Kids aren't allowed. She was over there stealing more Rick's clients. Kyle's an asshole. She's a smart asshole. Yeah, she's crafty. So then meanwhile over in Los Angeles and Beverly Hills, Lisa Vanderpump did a classic Real Housewives thing, which is that she rewarded a child with a major vehicle during the most basic level thing. It's like, Oh, like, Hey, you handed in all your homework on time. You get a mozzurati. Well, in this case, he was like, Oh, well, Max has been so wonderful. He's hasn't gotten fired in nine months. So I got him a Jeep. Max hasn't had a drug overdose in six months. I bought him a car, but it's not a mozzurati. I don't think he's you, frankly. Yeah, I do. Maxfield Todd, his girlfriend is like 47. Really? Oh, I thought he was really good. I know. I like Max. That's right. We love Max. Maybe because he doesn't ever talk. We love Maxfield Todd. He's not thirsty for the show. He doesn't give a shit. He has an I love anyone that loves an old lady. I'm like, you know what? Good. He's young. He's really like 22. I love him. Yeah. He's so sweet. When we were there, he was running back and forth, actually carrying food and sledding. Yeah. And people would say, can we take your picture? And he's like, busy. And he just kept running back and forth. And they'll be like, he's at work at Sur. And I'm like, why does he work? You're rich. Like, no, no, no, he's going to work. I think it's cute. I mean, I love him. He's not annoying. No, I know. I know. I was like, over the biz. I think the whole family seems well adjusted and very well. He was, I guess, why he had like a... He had problems for that second, where he didn't have his, whatever. He was living on his way on issues and stuff like that. He's kind of like a swagger all the way through. Whatever it was, it's all like a type of school. Because he's adopted. He's not like Pandora. You don't come door turned out so well. And Max is a challenge. He put that all behind him now, though. That's great. We love him. So anyway, so she didn't go to, she didn't go to the line with him because she had to go to London to get her passport. Oh, that's unfortunate. She's like, I have to go and get my hemorrhoid. Anything to fucking not make a long gala. Like anything. That's the thing is like, well, Lisa Rina goes crazy. Vanderpump's in the cut, like, bitch. I don't believe it either. Well, yeah, that's what I think that was going to be right. Because I think that Lisa Rina is furious about it. There's that lie that gets like, because Lisa Vanderpump allegedly called Lisa Rina. I was like, be sure to talk about this. And then Lisa was like, you called me on the phone, baby. And she's like, no, no, I just texted her. Something like that. That's what the big lie is. Right. I never called you, but Lisa Vanderpump's famous for calling. Like that was the whole thing with Kyle and Brandy Glambel. That every morning, Lisa would get up, call Kyle. She'd be like, Kyle, what are we going to do today with the shoot? And then all of a sudden the calls stop coming. And Lisa started calling Brandy Glambel. Then in the reunion it was like, you stop calling me in the morning. It was all about the Lisa Vanderpump call. Exactly. Although the thing is that Brandy would complain that Lisa's mother me, she's always like, she's too much in my face. So I was always like, well, you, she basically got like a teenager. Like, oh my God, you're like mothering me, but then it gets mad. I know it's not mothering. I know it's not mothering. I know what you're saying. You're scared. Blambel could've hit it all. She pissed it all away. She didn't want to be a sidekick. Now she's dressed up like a good diver chocolate. But there's no sidekick. There is it. That's all right. You know what I mean? It's all, that is. That's all ego. I mean, Lisa does kind of do, like she had Cedric and then she had Brandy. And now she doesn't. But part of it is just age. I mean, she's older. Like Eric, you came out, put a young hoe like Erica in the same room as like a retiring madam and expect them just to sit there and play cards. Lisa Vanderpump is like, like, is a boss. Yeah. She's an alpha. She's an alpha. Why would you get with the boss? You want to be with the kingpin? The kingpin is Lisa. Listen, I watch a lot of, I watch a lot of survival. I have not seen last night's episode yet. And people always complain about like, oh, you're playing me. You're playing me. So, well, guess what? If they weren't playing you, you would have been playing them. You think that Lisa sits there and doesn't call someone and say, so today, I'm going to talk about this. This would be good. You should mention this. You think that like everyone else is going to sit there quietly. You know that like everyone else is going to say things. It's like, we should talk about that. You should talk enough to be tricked into saying something on a phone call, then not your own damn fault for being stupid. Yeah. Yeah. That's forcing you. And I'll say the Munchauson thing. I still believe, okay. So like if you take the cynical view, which is that Lisa Rina was not as innocent as she, as she was when she said, I engaged in a conversation that she really just wants to accuse her without officially accusing Elanda Munchauson. Suddenly, no one knew what Munchauson's meant. They were like, I didn't know either until she ran the conversation. I'm like, where's everyone fucking been? Even if she had even if she had done that, which is shady, Yolanda is the one who has made it into a thing. Because Yolanda could have showed her, I'm like, that's ridiculous. But said she starts telling every single person, what is this Munchauson? What is this Munchauson? Munchauson. What's your favorite? My children, my children. Oh, God. And all right. How did you say it was Munchauson? And then bring the medical records. And she's like. My children lie. Like your children never come out about having lying never. What are you talking about? Yeah. Yolanda completely blew that up. And I'm going to find that Dr. Oz. It's on YouTube. That's how I watched it. And it is so juicy. I can't believe more people than go crazy over it. Guys, text me that. I mean, I will tweet this shit. It's good. Like two followers. But I need to take it to the streets. Well, she tweeted it. That's the thing. Like, she doesn't even see how quick she is. And everyone's like, oh, you work great on Doc. I was like, did you listen to Dr. Oz? Did you hear the things he said? My mom said the time in bed? And she said, well, and he was saying you've been hospitalized so many times for exhaustion and this. And she said, well, that first time it was, what did I say? Books. What is that? Something. Oh, yeah, I don't mind. Oh, yeah. I'm asking for other ones. Oh, Epstein bar. And one of the commenters was like, oh, yeah, it's called mono. Yeah. I've known a lot of them when they were hospitalized. Okay. Let's keep going. There were some filler scenes. No, don't. There were some filler scenes. We saw Rinna packing with Harry Hamlin as guitar. Oh, my God. He walked in with a guitar. That's what we were doing. What were you doing? What were you doing? What were you doing, Harry? When you were just strumming some tunes on your guitar. Oh, sure. You know what's easy to do at the door? Prop your guitar up. We don't see you with a guitar. That's what hot aging guys do here. When they start losing their face, they're like, look. I mean, like, whip out a guitar. Like, I don't know. It's like a hoverboard or something. They're like, I'm young. Yeah. I once went to a party and a guy came at this guy's house and he came and sat. We were all sitting at the table and he, like, he disappeared. He comes back with the guitar, like he's about to say to us. And then we're hanging out there for like an hour and a half. Him with the guitar right there. Did not play a single note the entire time. It was just to be like, yo, I got a guitar. Was it his lap? Yeah. He was holding it as if he was about to start. Joy. Would that send you? Yeah. No, I'll do a human being driving a lift with a mustache with what could either be a guitar or a ukulele out of its case in the front seat. And she's like, if that guy is fucking playing ukulele, people get it into his lift. And I'm like, oh, maybe he's just taking it. She's like, no, no, no. I would. I would. I would tell you. I need like a guitar. Okay. I'm 40. Carry on. I played a guitar, but y'all tell you what, you'll never see me walk around with it unsheathed outside. You know, you want to be playing it on the corner in the airport. Yeah. Make your plans on the corner. Yes. Outside. Carry on. Let's anywhere anyone around me, unless it's a performance, I won't be able to play a guitar. The number one tweet of all time of any tweet was, if you want to see who the douche is at your party, just leave a guitar out. Yes. That's a great one. I'm glad to be here. The guys who pick up that thing. So we also saw Eileen fixing Vince's back, which was like whatever. The guy leans towards somebody's husband, so she'd have to sit on his goddamn back. Fourth thing. Yeah. He's literally a diver. I know she can't handle. She can't handle that. She can't handle. True, bitch. Oh, man. Oh, you know, so we messed up. Oh, and you're on the road, baby. We messed up some order up. We messed up some order up. I was like, now was when Erica was talking with her day employees, whatever. So now it's the airport. So the most important thing is you just mentioned right there. That's right. Eileen in her overalls, which is the second time we've seen them this season. That's the most important thing. The overalls with like the blossom hat and the shirt. In Julie's like a skin type, or fucking close to each, you know, after 24 hours. And someone I think tweeted at us or wrote on our Facebook page saying like, did Eileen realize that they're flying to the mid east, not the mid 90s? Yeah, in the Midwest. I'm like, it reminds me, I can't put my finger on it. I don't know if it's someone's young mom. Or if it's just someone in high school in the 90s, but like, she seems like she carries like a big straw bag that has like big flowers on it. Yeah, literally. She keeps. We've seen it. She keeps those dresses, the dresses that are like the black dresses, the flowers all over them. Yeah. She seems like Eileen keeps that fast. She was into that stiff ribbon that you could roughly a ribbon that could make it big. And then she goes and put up and like, and then she shows up and I'm just like, is there never even an one insecure thought of like, these people are so rich. It's like, is she, where's the house in the valley? Or is it in? It's Malibu. Malibu. But I think they bought that like at a lower property value and never did anything to it because there's like fold walls like. Randy was right when she was making fun of her. Oh, and she said I did a remodel after that. Maybe thanks. She's worked for 30 years and you can tell that she goes to work and somebody dresses her every day. Yeah. I think that's what she really had told for me is that in me, well, I moved here in 2000, which I like a million years ago, but back in the day, but at that time. Yeah. I was 2001. Soaps were like, that was like a, that was like the blue color of the acting jobs. Yes. Like those were the two. Like nobody would do that job. Now, well now I feel like it is still blue car, but everyone's so desperate for work that people will go do it. Like how like James Franco and did it. Yeah. They'll go do it now. The Daphne Hogan's family. Right. But at that time, it was like even young people know jobs. You're like, I want to do soap. I'm a Stanislavski trained. I will not do it, but she's done it so long. She's like a career. So person. She's a fan of her. She's just like a normal lady. She's just like a lady who lives in like a regular town. She's like a lady who works at Ruby's. Yeah. She's like regular lady. Regular weed. Like she doesn't think like, oh, I need a pretentious bag. Like they're not pretentious like that. So people, they're like, they're like blue color actor every day. Like nine o'clock to five o'clock. They don't make five zillion dollars a year. They can't be, you know. Yeah. It really is. Like the workhouse and pays like for the nicest dress or the nicest person on the rack. That's a lot to her. And then you've got Catherine who's never worked a goddamn day in her life giving her shit about it. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't have to fuck somebody for this ugly purse. So now they all. So now that the whole gang arrives, the whole gang arrives in Dubai and they come to the Atlantis in Dubai. That place is crazy. It is absolutely insane how big and over the top of this. It feels just like some things are in Vegas. I mean, I love that that that glass blown thing that it is a famous sculpt. The last sculpt. I'm like, really? Cause I know that. I know that. The red version. Yeah. It's not like the Bellachio. Isn't there like a glass thing? The Bellachio. That's probably why Brenda knows it. It's like, I know him. I know Jelulee. I could. Do you know what I'm saying? It was beautiful. I couldn't. I was like taking like an issue with them. So beautiful. So I'm like, you can say it's great grandiose. It like the steel is shocking. Whoa, whoa. Off the chart. That's tremendous. But like to sit there and say this is a gaudy tacky piece of fucking garbage with no windows. Every scene was giving my anxiety was ramping. I mean, we watched it during the day. I watched it when it came on. Like I had to eat. And I was like, I can't watch them eating hummus in this windowless room. It's fucking America. It doesn't even know what it is. Is it going on the balcony? I'd be like, look at this view. The view of what? The view of what? The view of a fake sitting in a desert where you were murdered. There were no lights. There were no lights. This was the worst place in the world. I can't even live. I can't even live. It's a desert tap. It's a landfill. It's like a literal landfill. Yeah. They filled it to make that palm, the palm island. They filled it into every single part of it. It's like one fucking oil family took it over and bought it like it's the bad again. Like, I can't live. I cannot be alive when people are talking about Dubai. United Arab Emirates is a whole other thing. Whatever. But this particular city is a fake fucking city. It's fake. Yes. Do you guys ever done a cruise before? Dubai from the shore. And it's like a fake port. No. That's just been... Yeah. A cruise. Like a cruise. And you go to like the western Caribbean and they'll be like this weird island. This is real. Like, I've done it so many times in Julie. And it's an island that's a man-made island. Okay. So it looks like it's all white sand, but it's not a real island. Like, it's all a fake. Right. It didn't come out of the ocean. Yeah. It's like a Popeye town in Malta. What's that? When movie Popeye from 1980, they filmed it on that movie. Oh my god. They built that set, the little town. They actually built it in Malta. It's this elaborate set. And then when they were done rapping, they didn't tear it down. And it has since been converted into like a tourist destination. You go to Popeye town. Is that the octopus? I was at that was Paramount. Is that the fake town in Malta? You know the octopus is the man with the baby? I haven't seen it in years and years. Not since I was just going to say sadly all day. But basically it's like one of those things where it's like so you go and you're like oh it's so charming. But it's like a totally contrived port. Yeah. That's what this is. It's a fake island. No one's left on it. It's even like Vegas. Yeah. It's fake too. At this point Vegas has a few decades on. Yeah. But Vegas, like you go past a strip and then you see, you know, like the marshals and stuff. But this place, what do you see when you pass that? I don't know. I don't know. Gay guys hanging from gallows. Yeah. That's why I get anxiety. It seems like they're like in some weird Iceland. It's all about doing that jeep scene in the next, the sex in the city too. Or on the jeep, right? Yeah. Coming over the thing. I want to see somebody get thrown off a camel. I mean, that's my favorite Luan moment with a camel. Oh, right. Try to take her off. That's nice. So meanwhile, while they're all like, gallivanting around and choosing sweets and stuff. There's a presidential suite in the underwater suite. Yolanda is back in Malibu doing the Lord's work, which is overseeing the pack of their, of their divorce home and kissing for one last time in the refrigerator. Oh, when they looked up and they were a refrigerator and David's like, "Shouldn't we pack those vegetables up there?" Oh, that's a plastic. I was like, poor David. Standing here and the fridge was real. Trying to get a boner. Realizing it's all been plastic this whole time. Yeah. Never, actually never going in the fridge. And he's like, "What do we do?" And then he, I think he wanted her to go home or something like that. And she's like, "No, I have to stay and leave the pack." To leave the pack. Oh, how dare she. Who is going to leave the pack? Did you watch the beginning of last season? Yeah. Try and steal a van derpump line when you were losing. She's like, "Can't even stand to be around her." And I mean, I don't feel bad for him for one second because I hate his fucking stinking guts. Yeah, I hate his guts too. When she was like, "I'll come up and help you." He's like, "No." He's like, "I'm going to go up the right charts." I need to, I need to reconfigure all they Maria for them. And they're like, forcing in front of her eyes and the production's eyes. But no one really, really should have been. But they're trying to keep up, like, appearances that they're still like. And I actually don't like that she keeps on taking on this thing of like, "Ah, I guess I was a lemon. Oh, I was a lemon." I was like, "Listen, Yolanda, I have not been on your side for much of the season." But don't call yourself a lemon. You're sick with whatever it is, but you're sick. And the vow is do sickness or in hell. It's not, you know, maybe it's your fault that you're sick. But, like, you shouldn't be feeling guilty. I think that's a manipulation too. Like, she's trying to get him to, "No, my God, no, you're not." Or rather than admit that he cheated or he's with the gay guy. Right. Or whatever he's doing. Right. She still gets the sympathy, but I think he was me. Yeah, right. But actually, did you guys hear that she was the one who left him? That's what I've read on the internet. I'm wondering if you guys have heard that. I've heard... I'm just going to make sure this is important. I have heard that it was her, but we think that it was... She found out whatever indiscretion she was then made aware of, she left because of that. Oh, because they were saying on the old internet that she left him because he refused to pay for medical bills. And so, she was like, "Screw you," because she even said earlier in the season, "Well, Muhammad pays my medical bills." So, he would know. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, she gets all money from Muhammad for en Mar. He's still under it. Right. Oh, yeah. Well, not much to long. Yeah. So, meanwhile, Brandy comes over. And finally, we get our first Brandy appearance of the season, which is really noteworthy because in her confessional, she looks crazy. She looks like Lindiamante from Game of Crowns, which I don't know if you ever watched that. Oh. When it was on Bravo, it was an unsung euro of 2014s. That confessional is... The gold. The gold with the hair is like... It's like classic Vicki Gung Wilson hair. Her face is like frozen off. I mean... Her low-riarica costume. It was the same gold thing. Julie, didn't you say it was a wig or the extension of the fall? Everything. It's more colorful. I couldn't believe it. It was just padded up there. And then everything she said is like, "I'm rubber. You're a blue ring." Like everything she said. Lisa Rina is an anorexic with a wig. So what else? And delusional. I'm like, "Oh, I mean..." She couldn't move an inch. Like, one part of her lip was like... Like that? Like, there's like a swollen, weird part of her lip. It was like that one confessional where her tongue was numb. You remember the thing? I remember the whole time. Yeah. I was like, "I have an allergy to ice cream." I was like, "Bitch, please, please." You like... Got both talks in your tongue. But so here's a good example of, again, Yolanda being manipulative because she tells Brandi... Oh, yeah. Lisa Rina... Lisa Rina accused me of having much house in your sense in or something like that. Which makes it sound so much more antagonistic than it was. What happened was Lisa Rina brought up on TV. Whatever her motivation was, she felt bad about it. She went to refugee Yolanda. It's like, "I feel bad because I introduced this to the show." And then you'll... And she's like, "I'm sorry." She said, "I'm really sorry about that." And then Yolanda's been attacking her ever since. But then Rina got her back because Rina was saying later in the episode, "Yolanda won't forgive me. I mean, Brandi called her daughter an alcoholic." Which she said right now. Exactly. Brandi didn't. She was like, "You know what I'm saying?" It's like when people, of course Kim's sensitive or I get sensitive. It's like when people call your daughter an alcoholic and say, "Don't say this word!" But you don't though, but Brandi stopped over with the DY. But Brandi bringing that up on TV is just the same as Lisa Rina bringing up the Munchausen. But what if Brandi said, "Sorry for real?" Rina's like, "Why won't anybody forgive me?" Because you never said you're sorry. Even when you said you're sorry, you were doing it in a scene saying Munchausen's 20 times. And then you still said it 20 other times every episode. Well, but she's talking about it because the Yolanda... Yeah, that's the thing. We're someone who just owned. I want to say baby, I feel like she's putting it on a little bit. Well, now she is. That's what Lisa is doing now. But the point is that Ms. Rina didn't go over to apologize for it. Yeah, she didn't. And it would have just ended there. It would have just ended there. And we would have thought... If the housekeeper hadn't come in and said, "Here's what Munchausen means since you forgot English." Yeah. Or Daisy, the ad health advocate who was crying at the Lyme disease. God, the health advocate. But Lisa Rina was... Daisy, Daisy, the high-class high-class high-class high-class girl. Now that she's ready to own as ugly as it is, and you're like, "I'm gonna own my feelings about Yolanda." Her credibility through the Brandy Glennville wig accusation. I mean, the credibility was already going. It was like manic, manic, bipolar, manic. The second she's like, "That's a wig. That's a wig." It was like, "You just saw it going up in flames." The wig or... Can we go over to the flames? The wig. The real wig. You're talking about Brandy or Randy or Rina? I think Rina's credibility. Well, we've been talking about her having a wig for a long time. Could you have? Oh yeah, long time. But sometimes she's not wearing a wig, because that's what we say. I never thought she had a wig. I never thought she had a wig. She's got that natural wig, but I think she's got a wig in a case that when she doesn't want to do her hair, she puts on a wig. That's what I think, yeah. Because sometimes she's got like 20 pounds of hair, and sometimes she's got three. Oh my God, what else happened? So anyway, so then Lisa Vanderpump put on a MooMoo, and announced that she was a MooMoo convert. Oh. She looked so... I mean, she looked amazing. I love how she says it. She's like, "Oh, now I get the MooMoo. You can just let it all hang out." Poor Kyle. Kyle never wins. Even in MooMoo Land, she's in like a tie-dye, bright, pink, crazy cloud card. Yeah. So then the episode basically ends with them sitting around dinner around the baba danish. And basically, you know, they were saying... They're saying how Lisa Vanderpump, she would be... You know, it's too bad she didn't go to New York. You would have learned a thing or two about it. You would have learned a lot. You would have learned a lot if you had been into the library. There was a red carpet. I mean, I don't give a fuck. I don't care what you're learning. I'll do whatever you want. It would have learned something. Real now, because there is a red carpet. And then what you say, like, you're enraged is a strong word. That's what she said, right? She's like, "I was enraged by the tweet." She's like, "And rage is a strong word." Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. Well, Lisa ran up being enraged that someone went to lunch. Yeah, that's a sad thing. That's an argument. For real. Ridiculous. That's a losing. She shouldn't. I mean, I think the reason why she was saying she was enraged had more to do with just, like, preexisting. Well, she said, preexisting herself. She was already angry at... She's still mad at Brandy. She's still mad at Kim. She hasn't gotten the closure on that that she wants. She just gets mad when someone hangs out with him. It's at a purse. So that's why. Neither thing had to do with her. Well, this fight. I need to try her text because when you're filming and she, here's the thing. Nobody wants to go to Pasadena. Nobody wants to go to Tom Girardi in Erica's house for their fucking dinner party. Oh, my God. Do you know that was like three in the afternoon? They didn't want to deal. And so, and they haven't wanted to deal. They're sick of shooting. They're sick of the bullshit. And it's nothing against Erica and Tom. They don't want to deal. Um, Yolanda hasn't had to go to anything. Yes. Because of her sickness. This was one more thing and a long line of things that she skipped. I always read the subjects. Everything with me, me, Kim Zolciak, where it's like you and your fat tits and your fucking twins. We're doing the work. We're working and we're making a show. You're getting paid and you're not coming to set. And she's like, I had to go to fucking Tom and Erica's and she's one more time in my life. And I see her on Venice Beach with these two fucking drunk tools and I'm over it. And I got enraged because Harry was waiting for me with his boyfriend and his mad men cast. And I had to go to the dinner. I had to take a 210 baby. I don't drive the 210 baby. Poor Lucerina. I think she's pissed. So she had to go shoot at shit. No, she is. And security is so bleak. But she's also. It's the Pasadena Malibu. Then back to Pasadena. Then we're like, he's Hollywood. I'm like, this poor bitch can never shoot. And I always say, my theory also is that like she was the one last season who was like, you know, I love everyone. Like, why are we not talking about the fact that Kim is clearly not sober? And then she's like, she got in this big thing with Kim and Amsterdam and then the reunion and things got nasty people on Twitter or yelled at her or people hate her or whatever. And then like the very next day Kim goes off the deep end in this thing just like tumbling ever since. And my theory is that Lucerina just wants everyone to say, you were right, Lucer. You were right. And she hasn't. But she's not. She's not like, she's not day class, say enough to say. I want you people to tell me I was right. I told you so. I told you so. So she sort of like hints at it. She alludes to it. But she never comes out and says it. So no one has really said like, oh, we said you were right. You were right. So she has this like unresolved, like it's driving her nothing. She seems a lot to hang out with them. She's like, but I was the one who called the bullshit. Just sees it right about the most obvious things. She's like, we weren't doing Kim drunk a voice in season one. It's not like it was a shock or you'll end up being full of shit. Look at her Instagram. It's obviously. But you know, but you know, like when you were like calling out these obvious things and being like, anyone. It's just really for you to imagine. It's like a business lady. There were a man that she said she was drunk. They're like, we're all aware that she's not. You know, stop saying it in public. We all agreed not to talk about it. So she'd stay and keep doing this. If she admits that she has to stop drinking. Have you ever lived out with the show? Not cute. Listen, Lisa was stuck in that car for 45 minutes or an hour. So she's been traumatized. She had her own platoon. Like you hear the music started. So I couldn't watch that scene where she was amazing. And then she's like yelling at her or whatever. Yeah. Well, so yeah, exactly. So I think that's why I'm like, okay. That's why I feel like Lisa Rina is like. That's why I don't think it's like that crazy part of being like, whoa, I just went through a crazy car ride. Do you guys know what's going on? Give Richards. She's crazy. What's going on with it? He is busy from there. Yeah. She's like, what? She's just trying to run around with the slice of pizza that I mean, how is that? I'm not saying I'm joking. I'm not saying I justify. And the husband and the garage. I mean, that was the shit. I'm brandy going like that. She pushed me down the stairs. It was us. As if she was like pushed down a spiral staircase to go to style. You know, like, as we end this podcast after 20 hours of talking, congratulations that no one's strong, especially me. I had a thought about that. Okay. Well, then congrats to me. Okay. We all have red solo cups, but there's prizes. Let's see if we want. I have no prize. What is it? There's no prize? Why do you think it's right? Oh, you scratched it. You got to scratch it off. My prize is that my name is Europe. Okay. What are we scratching? I don't know. I'm scratching the gray part. I wrote my name. It's nothing under here either. Hand me that cap. What's the point of these? So I think that's basically. It's like it's scratching. Well, basically the reason why. Nothing. I win. Yeah. Way to end. This isn't real. It's like Cam murdered Sabre. So my way. So the thing that Rindis says at the end though is that she feels, and we talk about this. She feels like she's being held a different standard. She feels like it's one thing when brandy. Brandy knew something about the alcohol, like Bella being an alcoholic, and then brandy sort of gets off. But Lisa, you know, she said something on camera and now it will not be dropped. I think that's creepy. I think that's like, I understand that frustration. And so, you know, what. Yeah. Rindis actually friends with Brandy. Yes. Brandy says means shit and then apologizes and they go have lunch. That's one thing, but Rindis isn't friends. She's just talking all this magic. And I'm anti-Yolanda, but I still don't think it's nice to be going on TV and talking about much. Well, it's not nice. It's not nice. But then how can we say, like, it's like one thing, like, we talk about, like, we don't, you know, we want on these shows for people not to edit themselves and, like, to speak what's on their mind. And when they're, they're, they're authentic stuff that's what's on their mind. That's what we like the most. So, like, on the one hand, it's like, it's not-- I just know why Yolanda doesn't. Oh, yeah. I know why Yolanda doesn't. But I also feel like Yolanda could have just nipped this in the phone. Yolanda's a crazy bitch. Yolanda, the end. So good. This is going to be everyone's stuff. Everyone's going to be drawing more. And our Eileen, who clearly is half-assed, give a shit with old bipolar Rina. Because I like Lisa Rina, but she's now, like I said, with her credibility. She's very wishy washy. She's very wishy. Both of them have zero going on in their own storylines. The only thing they do is about somebody else. And they're not even close with the other people. Like, Eileen's going to get mad at Vanderpump for asking her a question and outing for us being a cheater. Well, we already all knew that. No one thinks that you're some innocent-- you're one of your third marriage lady. So, I thought I want to talk about abuse. Like, she can't even bring up their rights. Like, exploit that shit. What are Eileen is hopeless? Get out of here. Get a better writer. I mean, we got-- and, but Eileen and Lisa, we're not going to get in a fight because it looked like Eileen was losing-- They're actually real friends in real life. And that didn't work without it. She completely. When it served her, she's like, I didn't say anything on the beach. Eileen wasn't going to stand by Lisa. Yeah, that's where Eileen can be shady. Not shady enough. And then brings it up at every party. Well, Lisa was saying on the beach. Yeah, I don't hear that. Yeah. Yeah, Eileen loves it. Well, Eileen's also manipulative, too. And she likes to accuse Lisa. She's the one who says that. Eileen is the one. She's so manipulative. She's so manipulative. Eileen is winding up. Lisa, Yolanda is winding up. Eileen and Lisa. Lisa, Vanderpump is winding up. Rina. It's like they're all winding each other down in the end. Congrats. You've made an old person cry. Congratulations. You're going to sit there and watch some 67-year-old woman sob while you all go have a drink after. Yeah, at the end of the day, which one of you guys has a spinoff? Yeah, right? Because last time we checked, Lisa Vanderpump's the only one that's spinoff. I'm probably the only person with a massively successful spinoff. And a spinoff with an after show. Yes. And the restaurant. The restaurant is really the deal breaker. Every single bravo person is now doing a restaurant because of that even fucking old Todd. Oh, God. Everyone's doing it. Lisa set the tone. And she says that it's because you know, Maritio spinoff was against Vanderpump rules. You guys know that. No, I don't know. Yes. That's why Kyle was so mad. Right. She was trying to get a spinoff for Maritio called the agency. He did. Oh. They did a pilot. With that little lady she was on. Oh, yeah. Marissa. Yeah. One season. Right. So it was with her. Oh, she just better divorce. Finally, too. Oh, they can't believe it took that guy so long. She's like, I don't want to fuck my husband. It's like her first show. It's like her first episode. Poor guy. Yeah. She was. You guys. Thank you so much for doing this. So fun. This is a long. Of course, it's like went up being. That was a good 20 hour show. I know. I'm going to turn it on. I'm going to turn it on. I'm going to turn it on. I'm going to turn it on. I'm going to turn it on. I'm going to turn it on. I'm going to turn it on. I'm going to turn it on. I'm going to turn it on. I'm going to turn it on. I'm going to turn it on. I'm going to turn it on. I'm going to turn it on. I'm going to turn it on. I'm going to turn it on. 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