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So we I've been drunk for four days like I'm a drunk, but I'll do that like one day a week. You know, I'm 40. I've learned how to do it. I'm excited. You know, after we go through our housekeeping, you have a story to tell that I myself not even heard. This is like, you know, when you watch the Real Housewives shows and there's like a big fight in the next episode, the husband always says the wife certainly is always like, so how was your dinner last night by the way? And I'm always like, how do they not have of course she like told him right away when she got home, why you ask this again? But now I see maybe it just didn't happen. Like, because right now I still don't know about this crazy night with you and Leah Black and Lisa Vanderpump. So I'm excited to hear that, but first our housekeeping. First the house. Go to watchbookcrapins.com for all our personal links or instas. It's sessra. Facebook.com/watchbookcrapins. 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So, oh my god, could you imagine me in a movie? No, it'll never happen. Texture.com/crap. Texture.com/ it'll never happen. But in my defense, I am drunk right now, but when I took notes for these shows, I was not. So you can, I can just tell you things and you can talk about them if you want. I've got like full on it. I took notes on Potomac. Well, we're talking today, we're going to talk about Potomac. We're talking about the Atlanta reunion. And I assume some of the Top Chef finale, correct? Bro, bro, bro, bro. How many accents can you say broing that was Top Chef? Italian, Hispanic, surfer, every kind of bro. Yeah. Top Chef served it up. But before we get to any of the shows, Ronnie, you posted some interesting stuff on our Facebook page. Our Facebook page in general, we always, of course, we're always trying to pin but out. We always try to get everyone to go. But we've, I think actually, both of us have been posting a lot of stuff on there. It's like, our Facebook page has actually become like a journal for us. All my posting photos of ceiling. Yeah, because on my, you did post that ceiling. Thank God. I mean, I love that you posted that. I'd love that you like identified with that. Well, I like that you thought that like, you know, like you were afraid to tell me about my popcorn ceiling. I'm afraid just like, it's so rude. Who says that? I just figure, you know, but it's still a great apartment. Your apartment's amazing. It overlooks MJ's house and the entire city, you know, but it has apartment. Yeah. So what you're going to like rip apart the one thing in the great apartment. But yeah, that was funny. The Andy was like, Oh, fuck popcorn ceiling. Well, Andy Cohen was like, we're, by the way, we're talking about the Vanderpump Rules season one on sensor, which we'll talk more about on Thursday. But Andy Cohen was like, we didn't know what we're going to do with this cast. I mean, they all had like popcorn ceilings and old couches. I'm like, uh, that was most of my life. No kidding. I'm like, I'm 40. That's still my life. Mind is the popcorn. So anyway, while I was in New York this weekend, I go on the Facebook and you posted something and I immediately got full. I suffer from FOMO easily and my the charts. You do. I kept telling Carly. I said, Carly, I know that you don't give a shit. And that's so amazing. And that's why I'm making you do all of this stuff. Because she doesn't know who anybody is. She doesn't watch a Bravo. She doesn't care, which is so refreshing and wonderful. But I was like, Ben is going to shit himself. I was posted all because I don't post that much stuff on Facebook. And the Watch What Cropons Facebook is so good for me because my friends in real life don't know what I'm talking about most of them. They don't listen to this. That's why I can talk about them. My family doesn't get it. Like they don't watch all that stuff. So knowing that you were gone and I posted it, that's a huge thing. Like having a Facebook page, I can post that shit on is so good. Where it's appreciated. Watch what's happening. What happens Saturday night? Well, Carly, my sister is so jealous. She'll do whatever. And Leah Black's in town. And of course, we know that Leah Black, yeah. Because of talking to her a few times on Watch What Cropons, how fun is that? And has a great sense of humor about herself, makes fun of everybody. Yeah, including herself, especially. And so she has a summer home here in the Hollywood Hills. So we go sometimes she has these big parties because on housewives of Miami, I collect people. I think that was the first episode. She like passes the homeless guys like, Hey Leah, I collected him. He'll be eating sushi at my place next month. And she did that to us. We're two of the weird internet freaks. Every time she has a party, I always have like a significant obligation that I can't get out of. It's not just like, Oh, I'm going to see a movie. It's like, I'm out of town. I'm going to this or going to it's like, I can't. It's like, once again, like I should have known she was going to have a party. Well, you know, there's like 150 person list or something, you know, and then I feel like there's like a star system or a scoring system like this person said, thank you. This person brought me a gift. You know, like she she's a point keeper that one. Well, I was sure she remembers gracious, but when I declined the invitation, because at first, because you got the invitation first, and I thought like, Oh, I didn't get one. But then she actually emailed me, which was really nice. And then I graciously said I was going to New York for my mom's birthday, so I couldn't make it. And she's so polite. And that's what like when I say she's a point keeper, it's not because she's just sitting there, judging every little thing. She works for that shit. Like when she's friends with people, the first thing she said when I walked in the door, this must be your sister. Poor Ben had to go out of town. Like she knew every. Yeah, she remembers every little thing. She's so polite, and my sister, I don't like. He had to be sent away. We were so close. And like close to each other, I mean, east coast. But yeah, she knew who Carly was nervous. She's so nice. And Carly Carly was like, she said 7 p.m. It's now 7 15. You are so rude. You're going to show up to this thing late. It's not a sit down dinner. There's going to be a sushi and hamburgers. Like she knows how to do it. She's got her. Like the first tour of the movie theater has barely even started. Yes, exactly. So we, you know, we get our uber up there, whatever. We're the first ones there. So it's 7 30. So and I said, I'm sorry, I'm late. It's like, oh, whatever. I told some people seven, some people seven 30 and some people seven 45 on accident. I was like, you know, you were trying to stagger. And of course, it's the podcast person. And someone you don't know showing up first, because that's always how it is. Anyway, we had so much fun. I was so glad to have my sister because she gets all my insecurities, you know, and Leah is so nice. And she starts buzzing around and we talked to Roy, her husband, who's so nice. Yeah, telling us about all the stuff and like, I was asking you questions about how hard it is to be a husband on these shows, because the husband's never know what's about to happen. And he's like, yeah, he knew. You know, well, I'm sure he's he's a lawyer. Okay. And he's like a high really high profile lawyer. Yeah, it's a Justin Bieber lawyer. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he reps Justin Bieber. Yeah, he represents anybody who's on the losing side of, he would be representing OJ right now, but he was there. He's so smooth. You'd be like, oh, he's so nice. All right. Thanks for the sushi and the burger. Who would have thought? Yeah, no, I think that like, I think when you're dealing with with seasoned lawyers like Roy Black and like, Gerardi, what's his name? They know. Yeah, Erica's husband. Yeah. Yeah, except Roy doesn't yell at you. Yeah, huge difference. Huge. I don't think that Gerardi, what's his name, Tom, whatever. Gerardi, it's not that he's mean. He's just grumpy. He's like 90 years old. I'm yelling at people at 40. Can you imagine at 90? Fuck yeah, Don Rickles. I love that, dude. Tom. Yeah. Oh, I took a picture today at Don Rickles star. Did you know we had one? It's in front. It's in front of the forever 21. That's the best part. That's true. So you get the party. Yeah. So we're just alone and just bonding with my sister and this for to her is just this crazy atmosphere. She's like, what what's going on? What's happening? There's all these Marilyn Monroe's and mirrors and just Leah being cute. So once people started coming, I told Carly to go watch people. I have this talent where I can make anybody walk away. I can make the nicest person walk away and whore. Okay. I did it the entire night and I'll put just look at the pictures on the Facebook name. I made them walk away. There's like an aura of fear around them. Okay, flashback to Tom Sandoval at pump December 2015 flashback to everybody we've been in public with when I'm having fun and drinking. Literally. Is there anybody who who didn't act like that? I was sent by your side, Ronnie. You never do, but you understand where they're coming from too. That's why it's, you know, that's why we're going to be together forever. And Jeff Lewis, Gage, even the girls from the people's couch were like, and they're crazy. And they're like, wow, you're crazy. I'm going to go talk to Jeff, Jeff Lewis. It's like motherfuckers. I said, but watch, we'll all be out at the end of the night because I'm the one you're embarrassed to be with in public. But when you really want to get fucked up and go to four in the morning, I'm your girl. They all immediately flocked. Like where are we going? But yeah, during it, I just scared everybody. So I met the girls from the people's couch. I went up to Brandy first and said, Hey, I'm Ronnie. I'm from Watch What Crap Bins. Let's talk. And she's like, oh, yeah, we've been, you know, getting added at on the Twitter. Like she said something where I was like, really? Come on. I don't know what an added add is. I knew what she meant, though. And they were so nice. They're so cool. Julie Crazy. The Crazy Dyke. Mr. Julie Goldman. Yeah, Mr. Julie Goldman. All right. That's me. And then Brandy is you. Okay. It's crazy, Ben, because I don't really watch the people's. I don't really watch anything but The Good Wife and Bravo shows. Like that's it. Or like Breaking Bad, you know. I watch the Bravo shows, O.J. Survivor. Yeah, someone a long time ago when that show started airing, the people's couch started saying, Oh my God, you're similar to these girls, but they're girls. And I was like, that's dumb. I'm not a girl. Neither has been. So I didn't care. But I Googled them just to see. And it took me back to their YouTube. They were, you know, they've been partners for a long time. And they have really funny YouTube videos making fun of TV shows. But they just sit there and get wasted, make fun of TV shows. And it was like us. It was like Girls Us. Yeah, they have a very similar energy. I wish I wish our audition tape for the people's couch would be unearthed. What a hot mess that was. I think that's a lesson to me and to us when we all hang out, because we're going to see right away, I think they're a lesson in that they just they're more comp like than we were at that. Well, because they're in the audition and not trying to like be on. Well, so what happened was this? If I remember correctly, they were like, yeah, like, just pretend like you're just watching. You're watching this and just like act like you would when you would watch a show. But little did they realize that when the three of us, because Matt Whitfield was part of the audition too, when the three of us are watching a show, like we are like rapid fire. Well, because we're also being on because we thought we were doing our podcast, basically. So we were like everything be like, Oh, look at that moth on the screen. Look, nice moth. That's a big moth. But those ones go kill that moth, you know, and they're just like, it was like, we did not leave like a moment like they would not have been able to edit that. And we talked so fast and so incessantly about everything. And then like they gave us some notes, like, Oh, let me just be more yourself. And I was like, okay, they want us to like sit and watch and like comment, they'll edit that together. They literally told us that we can do it though. We couldn't. I can't do that. You can't see their band. We're not built like that. We can't just sit there and watch something. I mean, my notes are 10 pages long. Like they're about bullshit. The whole point is that I'm trying too hard. Like, it's not that I'm trying too hard for you, darling. I'm trying to impress myself, you know, and I just can never do it. There's like a neediness that makes this three hours long instead of, you know, 20 minutes. Speaking of which. So you, so you met them and then you guys went all went out together. Is that what happened? So nice. I started going because I started drinking. So I started going to my like junior high and security, which my sister's my best friend. So she's like, no, you know, whatever, shut up. I'm like, watch are all walking away. They all hate me. They're all standing on the other side of the glass mocking me, which I probably were. And you know, with good reason. But at the end, I was like, let's go get fucked up. So we, we went to pump. Of course, the girls were like, let's go. It was with you. It was with you. Well, it started just brandy and brandy Julie. And then there was a guy from someplace. Maybe I shouldn't say that. What, what, you're gonna get fired from entertainment tonight. I'm so sure. Like he works at Kensington Palace. That's for you, Donnie, that reference. So this guy from Entertainment Tonight, who was so cute and gay. Like an on-air guy? No, a producer. Oh, okay. Yeah. But just, I mean, for all intents and purposes, no offense. I know he doesn't have these types of spans to listen to this, but like, you know, just like really flitty gay, very pretty, very flitty gay, you know? Okay. Perfect eyebrows. It's all I could talk about. But also like bitchy and, you know, like 20. My sister was like, no, put it in your drunk pants. But of course I loved him. It's just like, have you seen the slap? It's him, but nobody disagrees. It's even more boring. Like slap him. It's a one-sided version of the slap. It's a reference to a bonus episode. So you guys all went to mom. So it was those three. But Leah, Julia's like, hey, lay out. Because Julie gets like me. So Julie and me embarrassed every, everybody around us, but for fun. And some people get it and some people are horrified. No one walked away from her. But in her defense, she's on TV. You know, they knew who she was. Yeah. Okay. So Leah, and also she really is so fucking funny. So she's like, we're out here. Hey, Leah, you want to, you want to go to pop? And Leah's like, sure. She goes, well, how are you going to get there? And she's like, oh, all driving this? But I don't want to take my car. It won't like me driving. She's like, well, take my car. I've got like a range rover, landlover, whatever they call. And he's like, I'd love to. It's like, yes. So I ended up, of course, because my insecurity projects this into the universe. I have to sit in the way back. Okay. Yes. Dodge into wooden spoon. And literally, I was sitting in a dog bed in the way back of the range rover. I'm not even kidding. I guess she has a dog. So I was like, perfect. I'm going to be sitting in a dog bed. And my sister will totally understand why I'm crying all the way to pop. No, Leah's driving, she's like, we're going to have to go around. So she like, me, all these tricks. Hey, how did you guys get up here? Did you figure out the back way? Which way did your driver take you? And we started during the L.A. talking about which twists and turns. And she was like, you know, mutually yelling me out the way back window and her the side window and brandy and Carly like, shut the fuck up. So we went to pump pump. Everything we say about pump is times 100. Those pots are so goddamn big on a Friday night. How am I supposed to walk to the goddamn bar? If the pots are half the bar, Lisa, how? I'm tripping over shit, scraping my knees. There's all these people trying to be in pump, but they can't even stand around because there's pots and rod iron in your goddamn face. Emily is like, Oh, you know, she's like, Hey, everybody. And it was very busy. Those people in the pump were all over those people's couch girls. They were like, Yes. Yep. You know, I feel bad. I haven't actually watched the fan of pump rules after show that they host. I feel bad. So good. Is it really? It's good. Yeah. I can't watch it regularly because we talk about the same exactly. That's the only reason why I don't because it's like, it's just we watch so much Bravo that I can't I can't read recaps about it. I can't. I can't even watch what happens live. It's why you're watching a show. You're writing notes. Then you're watching a show about the show. Then you're talking about the show about the show while you're talking about the I mean, too much. So everyone was all over Julie and Julie's. Yes. And also it's like tourist. It's not tourist. It's not like, Oh, it's so bad. It's tourist. It's that it's the bottom of the barrel D list. And I'm not talking about Julian. Oh my God, Brandy. I'm not talking about those guys. Everyone's just looking. They're like 20 years old and not that that's better. Well, I'm editing, but it's just gross bottom of the bed. It's not like they're out there waiting for Sean Penn, you know, right? To like get an autograph from his performance in two left feet or whatever the fucking way. But you know, same thing, like a really good male streaky type actor. It's like, I mean, I don't know a busboy they saw one time on Vanderpump Rules. You know that guy's getting more pussy. That's the best part about Vanderpump Rules is it's it's actually like a zoo. Like you watch it on TV. And then if you want to see these people, it's like Stacy said in the uncensored thing. She's like, you know where to find us. You just go to pump. You just walk in. You can like walk into the TV show. It's the craziest thing. There's nothing there's no it's not hard to get in. You just can walk in, get a drink. There's no Barrett entry. And all of a sudden you're in the TV show. It's so weird. But in the zoo, it's monkeys throwing shit at each other, which is similar to this. But in this version, there's no fence between you and the monkey. So there are other like random monkeys who aren't even cute enough to be in the zoo that are trying to throw shit at the monkeys in the zoo. You know, like those kids, you're like excited when they get eaten by the monkey because they like too close to the cage. It's like the bobcat that recently snuck into the LA Zoo and ate the koala. Did you hear about that? No. It happened. It happened a week ago, a week ago, a bobcat. There's there's this one bobcat that rooms around Griffith Park and jumped over the wall. And there's this one koala that at night like gets out of its safe place and wanders around the outdoor part of its area. It's the only koala that does it. And the koala went out on its normal nighttime routine and the bobcat jumped in and the bobcat killed the koala. It's really the perfect analogy for Vanderpump rules. Something slow that eats its own poop, getting murdered by a dangerous predator lurking that it should have seen a long time coming. But no one's really dangerous. It's like just one of the dumb monkeys throwing poo, eating another monkey's head off suddenly. He's like, whoa, I thought you were just throwing poo at each other. Oh, that was a deep raining. Anyway, let's invite some more monkeys in here. I'm sure won't happen again. And other monkeys are paying to be there. He looks like monkeys can't even aim. They're like breaking their elbows, trying to throw the poo because the pots are too big in the monkey cage. They're the gorilla steals of some sunglasses that were worth more than the zoo. He's like, what? I hardly did anything. Those were worth $750 million. You stupid gorilla. And then the giraffe walks in and is like, you know, I'm just have all these insecurities because one time I was invited to Savannah and then I was invited there explicitly so that way I could be disinvited from Savannah. I had to wait by the end of the watering pool until my mama came and got me before the alligator's game. And all the shorter animals are like, what? I couldn't hear you. Did you hear that that bit says something mean about you? It's like the death Catherine. And then a water buffalo walks up and is like, seriously, seriously, and then like some idiot shark, like Marisol Patton, like tries to eat you, but they just keep bumping up against the glass, you know, like getting a bloody nose. Like Marisol, why are you with the zoo instead of the aquarium? You're so stupid. It's like, I am buried to a beekeeper. It has nothing to do with anything. Such a misuse of power to make the aquarium hang out with your jellyfish friends. So the point is we ended up over at the pump with the giant pots in the right iron. Guess who's working his ass off as always the little thumbheaded guy who had to come train everybody how to make like a pomptiny goat cheese, whatever face. Yeah. Yeah, that guy. So cute. We have a picture with him. A 40 year old bald guy who works really hard, like literally sweats. I'm like, I'm down. I'm sweating. I'm not working, but I'm sweating. Marriage. You make tips. Just look to him, though. The girls were like, Oh, Lisa's over there, Duhr, which I guess everybody knows that. I don't know that she sits on Saturday night like Caesar, like in her little side booth, looking over the peasants. But she does. I mean, three drinks. Yeah. And she's not about it. She's on the same level, just under one of those 10th side tables. Like it's five million trillion dollars, darling. Are you worth it? No one was. She was the only one in there. Yeah. So they were like, let's go say hey to her. People now granted there's no pathway to this 10th palace. Yeah, it's the one that's in the back. Because you've been there. Yeah, it's not back patting. Of course, you know, I'm going to smoke something out there. Yeah. So it was this pathway, you know, between the tables. So you're moving between fat headed like plaid to risk. I mean, I am one. Actually, I was literally implied in a big fat bald head. And then, you know, just people's hair and it's tight, I guess what I'm saying, you know, just peep a tourist everywhere, you know, and walking through very tight. So they went in and did their thing. Lisa, so I get up, I stood in the line. And now you know, I don't do that. But I stood in the election. I was like, I have to see it. So you get in this little tent thing. Lisa is, I mean, she's my queen. But she's gorgeous. Is this the first time you'd met Lisa? No, I mean, I've met her like, but I've never literally kissed her ring band. Okay, I kissed her ring. And I told her, I'm gonna kiss your ring. Well, I said, Hey, my name is Ronnie. I'm from this podcast. It makes funny. You called watch it crap. And then she said, Oh, yes, darling. Feel free to take the piss. I'm like, yeah, thanks for years later. But thanks. It still feels good. I mean, I didn't say that. I was like, yeah, yeah, done it. And then I said, I'm gonna kiss your rings. She's like, all right, darling. And so I kissed her and I have to say she was surrounded by Well, Ken. I mean, obviously in his fifth jiggy wig. I mean, how many jiggies have had to die? He's holding jiggy in a matching out. Well, I don't know if it's matching in my mind, it was matching. And then next to him is some old some other old queen holding another jiggy's twin Martin Martin Martin Lawrence. No, no, you know, they have their own old fart and Martin, who was trying to fight camp, but they were both she drunk for each other. We're set up of all time. Yeah, again, Jim, they were like three or four actual like older gays. Ben, I swear to you, we'll ask Brandy and Julie. They were all holding tiny dogs of Lisa's. It was hilarious. Was the horse there? Well, you know, you know, it was in the kitchen. You know, it was in the kitchen, like yelling it, Kristin, horseface number one for being late to work again. Like, listen, I'm hosting it. Horseface number zero zero, unscented. All right, you would listen to me, Rosé. Rosé and what was the other horse? Rosé, diamonds and pastry cream. So she was really nice, but she's surrounded by literally a wall of old gay guys with weird plagues holding tiny dogs that belong to her. Hilarious. And I, you know, I kissed a ring and like made her laugh and got the fuck out of there. I was like, I'm grossed out by myself. Bye now. Did you feel manipulated? Oh, by everybody else, though, she's like, of course, you're going to wave waves of adoring, delish shit, darling. Just cover me and like she, it's almost like she understands I gross. And that's why she surrounds herself with all these gays holding dogs. You know the insight. She thinks that's just hilarious. She's like, I've got four old queens, including my husband, in terrible ways, holding tiny dogs. I had to get out of there before I became one of them. You know, I have like shoulder length. I wish you became one of them. I wish. No, never darling. But she was a honky. No, no, I feel like I feel like that's the thing to do. You know, it's like, if that's the person who poses with the Marilyn Monroe wax figure, which I just did today, or the, I don't know, the Liza star, you know, it's like, I'm the person who takes a picture with the Arnold Schwarzenegger star, or the person who takes a picture with the Meryl Streep star, you know, I wanted to be the person taking the picture. I was like, I don't care about you, Lisa Vanderpump. I just kissed your ring and now I'm leaving. Approved by her. You showed her. Yeah, I showed her. She was like, open. The next day her insta was like, your parentheses. She's like, someone left a glass nipper. I need to find my Cinderella. Hashtag, he could have used a wig. He has a dog here for himself. Basically, Leah drove us there. We left our asses off. Finally, she was like, okay, it's two in the morning. You're all stupid. Bye. And she just left. And then I lost kind of everybody else. And my sister was like, I don't know who anybody is. This was hilarious. Bye. I'm leaving. So we got new beer and we went home. But the next morning, Carly was laying in bed, watching real housewives of Beverly Hills. She's never watched them before. And she watched three in a row, I think. And she's like, these people are fucking ridiculous. And I was like, that's welcome to your new life. Wow. Well, that sounds like an amazing Saturday night. My Saturday night, I made soup. Well, so does someone in the kitchen, darling. Cheers. Chef Perry, get Ben's soup on the table right away. It was a really magic. Oh, and I have to say, walking away from the table in the tight little pathway of bald headed and straw weed, creepy tourists. Josh flag. Wait, is that his name for a million dollar listing to cute, like when he had a cute grandma, like always in a suit, very conservative? I've seen him out a few times. He's not conservative. He's always in like forever 21 flared jackets with like studs on the collar and shit. Get out of here with your conservative. He was, he was waiting in line. And I said, you're not waiting in line. And he was like, well, I can't just walk over there. I was like, yeah, you can. Done. Just did it. She couldn't back away. She was already in a booth. Josh flag. I think it's amazing that there's like a line of people going to pay their respects to Lisa Vanderpump. That's crazy. And I kissed her ring and I'm the biggest bitch there is. And I was like, darling. All right. Well done. Bye. Wow. Well, that is that that's kind of like an amazing night. I do have some serious, serious phone though, but I'm going to work my way through it. Oh, no, no, you're going to, you're going to win at the end because I think if you were, if you were with me, we, I would have been looking at you too much. The insecurity that I feel if you're not by my side, make a bit more people than I never would talk to. You probably were like very, you probably were like very extra and I probably would have been getting on. I'm too much. You know, I'm too much, Ben. Like we said, like, you're the only one who doesn't walk away, darling. Well, here's the thing though, like, I think you're hilarious, but then when it comes to like, when we encounter celebrities or people that we may want to someday ideally have on the show, that's when it's like, okay, I can't do this. This is like my professional world. Yeah. It makes fun, drunk and crazy world. And I'm like, this is a potential person that like, if we're going to be trying to woo them onto a show and, you know, I, that's when I start, I can't, I can't do it. Yeah, I don't woo. That's why I'm a podcast person and not a TV person, because the whole point is I don't give a fuck goes telling Carly, I walk away from people and I feel all guilty. And then I feel bad. And I'm like, why doesn't anybody like me? Why can't I be myself? And then I'm like, that's sad. You know, the whole point is that I'm supposed to say, fuck you. That's who I am. You know, and then I'm supposed to walk away and feel insecure. Like, that's how I have fun. It's my hobby, you know? It's your hobby. Yes, I make the awful things happen to myself. And then I feel terrible about themselves. But then it's like a warm glow over myself because I feel terrible, you know, it's like a sick pattern. I know what it is. And I love it. And there's no better town to do it. And if you had been with me, then I couldn't have, because I care to like, I don't care what they think, but I care what you think. So, it's better if I don't care what they think, because they don't like me for most of the night. But then we had the most fun. I mean, Ben, you're going to see that brandy and Julie, they're going to, they're like our little bizarro twins away from us. I'm excited. I'm excited to meet them. You're going to love it. And I know rumor has it. I'll be meeting them very, very soon. And Julie might have booked something big. And one of us has booked something big. And so I was like, wow, we're like bonded in a weird, it's almost like dating, like fate. I was like, welcome, we're each other substitute lovers. Nice to meet you. Here's the condom. We can go to this. We can go on a double date together. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, I went there, you know, I go deep. Okay, so that'll be some other day. Ben, thank you for letting me talk so much. I wanted to tell you that always. It was so hard for me not to call you. Well, that was a really fun story. And I think like what better segue or lack thereof than why don't we do a quick Crapin's mailbag on the heels of that epic story? How about that? If you tuned in to your recaps today, just fast forward another 45 minutes. That's the recap. I mean, a horrible childhood issues. Hey, you know what, this is a Bravo podcast and we're talk, we've, we have been talking about Bravo. They turned it off 20, I mean, 200 and something episodes that they were annoyed with. Crap talk when it doesn't belong. Speaking of Bravo, Mike Bowman, our girl, my Wisconsin loves cheese. Or is it Mike Baume and Mike? Is it bad to get out of here with your bowman? No, I don't know. I never address him as Mike. The reason why we say this is because Mike is an active member of our Google Hangouts. So he has a hard hitting question. He says, favorite Girl Scout cookies, since I know you care of mine are peanut butter patties. That's what's your favorite? That's not what they're called those peanut butter things. It's like that. I don't know because they have three names that are different. Okay, I'm going to, I'll answer this first. There was peanut butter and then there was like peanut, there's the peanut butter, which is between two cookies. And then there's one that's like a cookie covered in peanut butter covered by chocolate. What's that one? Is that this? Is that this one of those different ones or what? Well, one of them is a similar or used to be called a Samoa. And then it was no, no, the Samoa is that coconut one. Yeah, different. Um, I don't really know the names of too many of them. I recently had the lemon one for the first time. Believe it or not, wasted time wasted. Oh, I liked it. Hold an empty calorie. Okay, let me tell you. Okay, so this is actually a very important topic. And Mike knows it's important, which is why he asked. So obviously, my favorite is thin mint. I mean, that's like a go to, right? Well, yeah. However, if we were to like just take thin mint out of the equation, because it's such a classic. You have the Girl Scouts die. Okay, next subject. Barry them in the planters. No. My next favorite is a more obscure one. It's kind of like the indie of the cookies. Oh, good. Um, it's called a thanks a lot. That is too much. No, fuck off, Girl Scouts. No, it's called the reason why I said it's because, you know, it's not available in all the regions because they're different. They're, they're like, different regions of Girl Scout cookies, and they have they are supplied by different factories. And so distributors. So not all. They get points for who delivers the most. Yeah. Well, not every distributor carries the thanks a lot. So yeah, I don't think we have those in El Paso. Well, yeah, there are a lot of times I'll say to someone like, oh, my favorite, thanks a lot. And they're like, that's not a real one. It is. It's a real one. It's a real motherfucking cookie. And it is good. It's kind of like a it's, it's in the same realm as like a fudge drive, like Keebler fudge drive, except the, the, um, shortbreads will thicker. They're so good. And I also like into a box. Nice try, Girl Scouts. Plus, I also like that it has the most passive aggressive name out of all the cookies and perhaps any cookie. It's called thanks a lot. Give me a thanks a lot. You're not sharing your thanks a lot. Seriously? Thanks a lot. Seriously. Are we ready to order? Thanks a lot. I'm sorry that you all can't be a thin mint like me. That's why we work at Sir. Seriously, seriously. I'm sorry. I'm a hot motherfucker. Have you ever ordered those cookies? Sorry. I'm a cookie catch. I'm a motherfucking cookie catch. We sold 10 boxes in a year. Thanks a lot. Okay, Sarah, Josie F. Wait, what was the question? Was there when the question was your favorite Girl Scout cookie? Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. That okay. Sorry. Do we answer thin mint? I answered. And then the, the thanks a lot. Ben, you can't say that's your favorite Girl Scout cookie after cinnamon. Yes. What is wrong with that? That's my favorite. I don't even know what it is. Okay, describe the cookie. No, it doesn't mean it's, oh, now you're waking me up now, Ronnie. Now you're waking me up. I love some Girl Scout rage. I've been sleepy for the past, like, we've been doing this for two hours already, actually. We did a bonus episode. We're now two hours. Sorry. And I was like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. And now it's like, oh, you're going to challenge me in the motherfucker. Thanks a lot, cookies. Oh, you woke me up. It's thin mint. I would Google it, but I don't want it to reverse pumpkin. I went from pumpkin to cherry it just now. You went from chocolate. I get to. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot. It's good. Google it right now. Wake up, Karl and Mick. Because you know what's going to, like, make the sky go out. Make fun by go. We got, like, six recordings tonight already with my stupid, dry ass. Thanks a lot, cookies. I'll do, I'll do, you know what, I don't even, I want to pretend that this isn't real tomorrow. I want to wake up tomorrow and not know that there's something called a thanks a lot. Uh, the girls. Thanks a lot. That'll work. Has a, has a page called meet the cookies. Um, and yes, it is confirmed there. If you look at a thanks, I'll see Ronnie. If you just look at a thanks a lot, you would see how delicious it is. You know what I'm looking at right now? I swear to God, this is the truth. Your sky picture, because I'm sitting at desk desk and I'm in front of this gigantic screen and my sky is up and it's your beautiful face. And you just keep saying picture like Mike, you know what, Ben, you're welcome. It's a picture from like five years ago telling minus 10 years ago, like, winking back at you. All right. So we have to move forward. We have to move forward. Do it. You got to drive. I'm trying to drive. You're just like, I'm responsible. I will not drive like this. Sarah, Josie asks other than blogging and podcasting and watching housewives. What do you guys do? IRL. Also, where do you hang out? So I can talk you. Well, obviously we hang out at pump sometimes. No, that's, I mean, that's like Disneyland that you have season passes to that you go too much. And it's creepy. Yeah, I don't know where I have to be honest. I don't know where I hang out. Tiago 24 hour fitness X. Um, uh, what's that stupid Martin Lawrence blood grocery store, Fresh Neezy. Yeah, I walk around the empty fresh news. Um, I'm running Canyon. Yeah, run in. Uh huh. I, uh, uh, I'm in terms of bars that I like in LA. My favorite local bar is the woods on La Brea. Old classic. Yeah, you can find me. There's a restaurant I like called Poconometry. What is that? It's pokey. It's so good. That sounds like a goddamn board game. I don't like pokey. You know, wait, wrap that shit in some rice. Don't give me a bowl of guts. They're like, here's some fish innards with some blue cheese and some, you know, like chopped vegetables. Get out of here talking other ass. I am not what pokey is. It is. It's just the chopped fish, right? It's like sashimi. It's just a bowl of it tossed on stuff. I like the rice. Yeah. I'm either. Okay. So, um, other than, so other than blogging and podcasting for me, I actually am a writer. I'll pretend just sounding, but I am in the process of trying to break into the writing TV for Hollywood. I was, I would be creating the web. I have been, I have been writing features, but I've switched gears to TV. So it's been like everything's had to like, uh, it's, it's different. It's a whole different, it's a different ball game to certain extent. So I had to get new reps and how to like start changing like my portfolio of writing and everything. So I've sort of positioned myself and now I'm in the process of getting myself out there and going on some cool meetings and stuff. Yeah, you're working it out there on the streets of Hollywood. Yeah. Hopefully I'll have some cool stuff. I'm so excited you're doing that because it's so nice to live vicariously through you with that stuff. Thanks Ronnie. Yeah, it really is. I like listening to those stories. What about you? Uh, but you, you are a full time. Yeah, my full time stuff is like writing real housewives recap, running a website about recaps and then making like stuff that I don't ever put out there, like little acapella songs by myself or little cartoons and then playing with my dog and really just getting high and feeling lucky that I can live like a crazy person. Yeah, I do musical improv and stuff like that. But the places I like going outside of here are just bars around my house and whole feeds and occasionally Trader Joe's. So Sammy Suleiman asks, um, of all the housewives and housewives adjacent music, are there any songs you unironically like? Personally, I really love Sheena's single Good as Gold. Oh, how does that go? Do you know? I have no idea. My foot. Sheena Good as Gold. I'm looking it up. I have the housewife song that I like the most is Sheik Selevi. Sheik Selevi. Simple. Simple. I think the ones you can remember are good. You have arrived. Oh, good. I don't know. Wait, are you playing that? No, no. Oh, no. That's how Sheik Selevi begins. Oh, yeah. Oh, wait, how does it? I do have the Sheena. I do have the Sheena one. Okay, I predict this going to sound like this. Let's see if I'm psychic. Okay, I'm pressing play on Vimeo. Watch it be an ad. Oh, Vimeo, get out of here with your Ford ads. Get your Ford Focus out of my face. Here she goes. Sheena Marie. Good. I like the chord change. It sounds like Lisa's daughter asked kiss her. I can't believe that she was driven this way. You know, it's actually not a terrible. On the housewife scale. I got to tell you one feeling good. This party's got me. Oh, this is how she talks. This is how she talks. I'm on track like that. All right, I'm stopping it. Oh, my gosh, I was taking such finesse. Okay, I said, old person taught good as gold. Who says that? It's like home again, home again, jiggity jig. She's like jiggity jig charged up and juice on. I mean, come on, jungle juice, pour some jungle juice in my cup. It's the Heidi Montag's musical career. How dare you, sir. Heidi Montag is a seasoned professional. I did like one of Heidi's songs, believe it or not. I really did. And then everyone laughed at me when I said I thought it was a good song. And then guess who covered it? Lady Gaga or actually, I think that Lady Gaga actually wrote it and then Heidi sang and Lady Gaga was like, I'm going to take this back if I'm going to sing it now. Hey, when Huey Lewis takes interest, call me. Okay, what songs can you remember though? I remember that. She said, I don't know good as gold. Get out of here. I already forgot it. Charlie to the party. That's the one I actually paid money for. Actually, I actually bought that one. All right, then that auto wins. You have something to do with her like fifth cheeks. Congratulations. I mean, it's a candy burst joint. You know, I also like tightrope and I want tightrope to be released. I played this according to my iTunes. I played the song for the new songs. All right. It's like a Gaga song, actually. Yeah, it's candy burst. I mean, that's like, that's probably the only only song of all the housewives and all the bravo stuff that was actually produced by a real producer. Can be candy and with tongue firmly in cheek. Yes. Exactly. So. See. Oh, me got the smell bag. Man, my male people sort of rush through it a little although that was not rush. What time is it? Poor bean. You wait. Okay, what do you want to talk about first, Atlanta's? Let's talk about it. The Atlanta reunion. We'll do Atlanta top chef palate cleanser and then Symptomac. Yeah, you'll have to save that later. Oh, I bought this new keyboard. It takes like five seconds for it to warm up. I'm writing time to make a Casio keyboard. You're gonna play something for us. I wish. Party for the party. Oh, I put 55552 tomorrow. I'm going to be like, what? Okay. So real housewives of Atlanta reunion. Andy, I like that they're showing all the backstage stuff. They're doing that consistently now. And Andy's not even pretending that he's trying to be Anderson Cooper anymore. It's just like, Hi, I'm Andy Cooper. This is gonna be a show. Welcome. Um, Kim's first reunion, Phaedra praise with Andy and Portia. I just wrote, oh, yeah, nothing to say about that. But Portia, Andy was just doing that for the story. You know, he was like telling all his friends. He's like, Oh, my God, I was an old prayer circle. Jesus is like, I'm trying to turn water into wine, not just water into like Uncle Ben's darling. Just bowls of carbs lying around. My future is gone. Maybe they were just praying that the passion would be over soon. The passion. Did you want your passion? No, I didn't. Um, can we please agree to watch passion once you're in your new place? Yeah, sure. It's gonna be on Netflix. It's gonna be on Netflix. It's gonna be on Netflix. All right. Well, I'll wait till next year then. No, no, it's gonna be on Netflix in like four days. Here we go with the beginning. And Portia. Hi, Cynthia. Oh, hi, Cynthia. Hi, Kenya. Hi. Hi. It's every, every reunion. It always starts that same way, like eating green. But he's not just saying hi anymore. Now he's adding stuff. Hi, Kenya. Kiansei. Yeah. I was a free. I was concerned that he hadn't asked anyone about their boobs, but then he did. He did have candy stand up and twirl around and show everyone her body. So I was like, OK, that's good. That's nice and demeaning. Yeah, he's he had someone show off their five pairs of Spanx. I mean, yeah, it costs less than a body lift, but still she's like, See, no, we lost. Right. How does candy looks like? She actually looks better than before she had the baby. I know. You know, I thought Andy, I thought I gave birth to Mac and cheese. And he was like, wow, he's like, you're this is like escape candy burrs. I'm like, well, you're, I was like, I know he was meaning that as a compliment, but it was kind of actually implying that she's looked shitty for the past 10 years. I was like, nice one, Andy. Also, and he's trying to pretend he listened to escape. Get out of here. Ain't nobody believe in that. You're Bruce all the way. You're Bruce and Barbara all the way. Ain't nobody falling for that. Mostly Barbara. Um, Kenya calling herself Kiansei was the most hilarious thing I've ever heard. Like that bitch is more arrogant than Jay Z. Beyonce would actually fuck her. She's that arrogant. Um, and Portia high Cynthia candy post pregnancy. Yeah, offensive five spank lines. She did, though. She had five spank lines. Uh, Phaedra, I called Jesus on the main line child. Andy school was in session. The shady bunch. Shamaya drink shampoo. Shamia. Shamia drink shampoo. Candy greatness takes time. Been two years since we shot reunion. I don't know what she's talking about. Who gave best shades for parks? Oh, okay. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I know. I'm just going trying to spark something. So I seem to remember what the first thing that happened, the first significant thing that happened was that Todd came out, right? They talked about the baby and he's like, they're like, Oatmeal Pie Face was the first thing I'm trying to find Todd. Oatmeal Pie Face. We already talked about that. This one, Phaedra called Kenya Oatmeal Pie Face. Oh, because they were talking about shadiness and Kenya's like, yeah, that wasn't funny. And then Phaedra's like, oh, well, you know, I was just saying she's like, that was my looks. You're talking about my looks. She's like, well, I was talking about your skin. She's like, my skin had my looks. She's like, well, technically your skin. I'm like, Phaedra, there's no way around. You weren't making one of her looks just like, oh, baby, how are you going to pick the best person in this? Because Kenya's like, that's my looks. You're, you're, and then she's like, you're putting, but God got that skin. She's like, that's not fair to make fun of girl skins. Girl, you don't even have to start getting so mean and shallow and Phaedra's like, I would never say that. You don't even have a husband. Bye. Girl. Bye. They will always top each other for the worst. Yeah. Absolutely. And Kenya. Kenya's argument. Phaedra, I left you alone all season. Yeah. Like a little. I could have been really shitty to you, but I took the high road. Yeah, I didn't throw shit in your face for one season. Okay, I earned this. Yeah. Congratulations. You went after Kim Fields, whose greatest achievement in life is going to carpool. And when they show that clip again, by the way, when they were talking about when Andy's like, there's a new girl on town. And then they showed, they showed Phaedra talking to Kim Fields being like, so what? Wait, she's like, so Kim Fields, what makes you excited for the day? She's like, I don't know carpool. And Phaedra goes, not carpool. And Kim, that was like Kim's big crying moment. She's like, no, we need to carpool. I'm making lines for the kids. Those made that up or just exaggerating. That was the clip that was from Phaedra saying, what gets you through the day? What makes you excited to see the day? What makes Kim just like triple chocolate dildo? And she's like, carpool. She goes, going to carpool. Phaedra's like, have you ever set a firework off up your vagina? Tell me the truth. Have you ever gone to a crosswalk? But still, just the way that Phaedra goes, not carpool. Like, no, no, no. And Phaedra even ever carpooled the nannies to get to the right place. So soon Todd comes out and they're asking Todd. I've got a beard now. He's like, it's hard to raise a kid, but he's got a good head and he's a handsome kid and I've got to make that coin. So, you know, it's hard. He's got good arches for platform heels. He'll do great. I've got a beard. You know, Todd, as husbands go, Todd is far from the worst. He's fine. No, there's something bad. Every time that I hate his arrogant attitude and every time they got to him, he's in something more awful. Like, one, I'm outside my wife's pregnancy, you know, meeting whatever they call it with the doctor. And he's outside with his sideways hat sitting above his head to look taller in his, like, quilted northern shirt with something that says "housler" on the front and a gold chain that weighs more than his platform shoes. Get the fuck out of here, Todd Tucker. Get out. Every time that that happens, it's more obnoxious. But then just when you're like, Todd, then you remember that there's people like Peter and you're like, you know, Todd's not so bad. You know what, at least Peter is just trying to fuck somebody. Todd is trying to prove something that he's never going to be. It's like he's trying to be, I don't know. I feel like... Who is it? Tom? Tall. Tall. That's it. It's platform shoes and heads on top of hair. That's all you need to know about Todd. Thank you for condensing that. So basically, Andy asks some questions to Todd. It's like a nothing segment. It's basically like, how's the baby? How's everything going? How's the restaurant? Yadda yadda yadda yadda. No, man. It's really hard. Yeah. Oh, I should have listened to Cynthia. I should have realized that holding a restaurant is hard. We don't even have an underpass to be under. Kenya starts her victim thing right from the beginning. She has these bitter, evil, awful looks like she's being attacked, but also like ready to fight, but nothing's being said. And he's like, how do you like church? And they're like, we love church. And Kenny's like, God fuck church, church me. It's just an evil look coming out of her face. And Andy's making so many non-things that happen this year, huge things. It's like, Portia, why would you rip Kenya as fellow women entrepreneurs? How could you do that to another woman who started a business? Portia's like, because it was fine. I like Portia's answer. She was like, she's like, I didn't know she was going to do that, but it killed me. It was funny. Yeah. Shumia drinking the water. Listen, Shumia could not have drunk water or drank, drunk or drank, drank water, had Kenya not put water in there. And then Kenya was like, yeah, there was water in the shampoo bottles, but only on the table. In the gift bags, there were real products. Yeah. And then Phaedra's like, I tried her shampoo on a friend's pet. Yeah, yeah, on a pet. And then Kenya comes out with these nonsensical arguments. She's like a quad with better English. Yeah. She's like, my product is good for people with edges. Try some. Evil look. Yeah. People are having trouble their edges. Okay, does Kim wear granny panties, who cares? Yeah. And she's like, wouldn't you like to know? Actually, no. Yeah, no one else. This is a question that I don't think anyone cared about, except for maybe Andy Cohen, and I'm not even sure why he cares. I don't want to go under there. He's asking her about granny panties while she's sitting there in a dress that's ombred from the waist down like a shit stain. She's wearing a cream-colored dress, but in her entire waist section, it's brown. Kim Fields, you are sitting in a pile of shit at your first unique girl. Have some self respect. I mean, that's how you know her husband and gay. The man wears mom-waisted dockers and doesn't tell his wife, she'd dress like a shit stain sitting on a couch. Can't be pregnancy. Hey, candy. Next year, don't be pregnant. Don't be pregnant. You're boring me. You really told her. You told her. Wow, I thought there was going to be more. Okay, here we go. Hashtag R-H-A-W-A Planned Parenthood Stand with Women. So, I'm just right. Todd's even the shortest person on a couch. These are coming, and everything's a glow. Give your loved one a reason to sparkle with jewelry from Blue Nile. Right now, Blue Nile is offering special Black Friday and Cyber Monday deals. Save up to 50% on the season's most stunning trends. 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Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to rocketmoney.com/wondery. That's rocketmoney.com/wondery. You go, I'm sorry, what happened? After Todd came out, then they pushed them off, they were like, "We'll have you come back." Then Shray came on the couch and this is what they were, because Shray, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. And they were repeating things from Bravo, like the announcer guy on Bravo. He's like, "Sray, have you been served by Shray?" Well, Shray spent the entire reunion muttering commentary off the side. The entire time she's like, "I'll go to the other." What do you say? What do you say? Do you hear what you're saying? "I'm living for this day, Trevor." "What is this?" "What is this?" "What is this?" "What is this?" "What is this?" "What is this?" "What is this?" "What is this?" "What is this?" "What is this?" "What is this?" "Can I do it alone?" Shray, I cannot believe Shray is not a full-time cast member at the new star. I'm sure next season she will be. I need to see what's happening with her. I like that she's doing, she's not getting paid for or being recognized. But she's the real meanie. You know, she's like actually holding court. The shit she has to say about everybody is on point. It's true. And it's judgmental, but like lovingly judgmental. She's like, "You go confused." "Where was confused?" "You go confused." Like she's so moved. It's like when Andy, when Andy read Kenya Moore, when Kenya was, when they were talking about later on when they were talking about Kim Fields' career, and Kenya is being shady, she's like, "You know, Kim had a big, you know, it was a child star and we're also living single." "Well, she worked in the 90s." And then Andy is like, "Well, you were a Miss USA in the 90s." And then Shray was like, "Ooh, did you give me a read? Did you just give me a read?" I was living for Shray's reaction because Shray's reactions were minor. "What is Andy? What is Andy? What is Andy? What is Andy? Did you see with Bob? Did you see with Bob? Did you hear the vibrate? You're reading? What do you mean Bob? Did you know my favorite movies? What about Bob? What about Bob? Did you see with Bob? Did you see with Bob? Did you see what about Bob? Did you see? Did you fall asleep? What about Bob? Did you see with Bob? What about Bob? What about Bob? What about Bob? What about Bob? What about Bob? What about Bob? What about Bob? Hey, Candy. So you had a baby. Baby steps. Baby step. Baby step. Baby step. Baby step. Baby step. You got baby steps? You got baby steps? You got baby steps? I pity the person who plays this podcast inside the festival word and arrives at the part where we're just saying to each other. But I feel like at some point in the human experiment, we all have that point whether it's the flu, cancer, whatever awful fucking disease you're laying there from. You're forced to watch shit like all about Bob. Like that's when people are going to see party of five for the first time. You know, it's like some awful disease. Like there's party of five. You'll get to jokes later. Wait for it. It's the point. I'm just imagining, you know, because we keep on tweeting out like Casey Wilson and Danielle Schneider and other people too. Like you guys, they have to do like crossover with washer crap and this is going to be the episode. Like Casey Wilson would be like, you know what? I'm going to listen. Let's see what this podcast is about. I'm just going to just fast forward to like us right in the middle. Let's see what they're saying and because of her listening to us going. It's like it's like a water leak somewhere. Darling, it's like real life. If they need to back away from you, they cannot do that on the podcast. It has to be people. It has to be like chest pain and Leah black and people who are just the same thing. I'm going to back away. They like that shit. And so are the people listening. What are you? What about that? Hey, bravo. Hey, bravo. Please give us a job. What about that? So the big question. So there was a big question about does Kim Fields fit in on Real Housewives of Atlanta? I love that it becomes a focus group. People are like twisting knobs left or right. Yeah, because they were like, you know, some people are being more diplomatic. Some people are saying, well, you know, it's just that like we're a confrontational group and she's not. Oh, yeah. Oh, it was. It was straight. I don't even know. I'm not looking anymore. We're a confrontation. And she's not very confrontational. And then some people were saying, well, it's just that like, you know, she's a little judgmental. And then it became a thing of evil. She's judgmental. And then the other ones, I thought we're going to come in and be like, no, you know, she's great. She was her first season, but it was rough. No, even candy. Like the nicest one there was like, well, see. No, Kim. Kim. She was good on different. You know, she was good on different strokes. She's like not knowing the show. She like, you know, even her. She was like, she was great, but she didn't fit in. She didn't get it. Yeah, but I think that I actually think that that's what makes her fit in is that she's different from the rest. And she operates in this. There's a huge disconnect, which causes the friction. And she gets really passive aggressive. And she gets. She did. She does get a condescending despite what she says. I mean, she's what she's lost in a couple of times now. But when she clarified what she meant about, like, if I don't fit in with this click, I'm okay with that. I understand what she what she met. She clarified it. I got it. She was totally condescending to people who didn't understand it. We all knew what it meant. And she was right with what she said. If I don't fit in with the bottom feeling, desperate bitches who were trying to tear people down just for screen time. I mean, Kenya is shameless. Kenya's coming at people with shit that has nothing to do with reality. She goes below the belt and all of Kim's shit was with Kenya. And when she said, if I fit in with you, bitch, I do not need to fit in. And she's right. But the fact is, bitch, you poor. Kenya was right when she's like, I don't have lanes, witches alive. She still hasn't paid a lot of people who are working on her house. She's in a debt liar. Well, the thing is, what was funny was that Kenya's like, well, here she is. This is my stage. This is this is where I'm the star. And then they cut to candy and candy gave this look like. Now, Kenya. Yes. Five Spanx almost popped off of candy at one time. It's like, bitch, so where yours been off, bitch, I've had 10. Yes. She is almost going to reach across the table and strangle her. Yeah. I think Kenya is trying to compare herself to Kim Fields. And when Andy was like, OK, Andy was pretty good in this one. I felt like there was some Fagito burrito in his ear, who's like 22, who actually watches the shows. It's like Andy, say this mean shit to Kenya because he was calling, he was calling everybody out the whole time, which I loved, by the way. Nice work. And they can't say anything about it. They're like, OK, Mr. Bosch. Yeah. Can't even said that. Can you do? Candy did. She tried to like go with Andy a couple of times. And he was like, I'm not Kim Fields. Yeah. And he was like, no offense. Yeah. I hate carpools. No offense. I do not. Love rules. No offense. Little mermaid four. No. Wait, which part four? I said, I have. Never mind. I'll go to sleep trying to think of what you were talking about. I was saying Andy pretending like he doesn't, he's not. He feels like I have not seen little mermaid four. No offense. Now you've made me explain my joke. And I was like, I was on that. Ariel is gay. Trust me. I've done a lot of work with Ariel. So then, you know, there was also discussion about Kenya versus Phaedra. I'm not Kenya. I'm sorry. Candy versus Phaedra about Apollo stuff and their friendship and their, you know, they want to go back to where it was, but what and can neither one of them did. I didn't know it was a secret. Really candy. You didn't know it was a secret. When Apollo showed up at your house and was like, Hey, do you mind if I keep an ATV and a sailboat and like my kids fake BMW, like teeny tiny golf cart BMW here? Candy needed to be checked a little bit this episode because, you know, I still think that's shady. You know, I know it's terrible. Just regard the entire conspiracy theory. Still, I still think it's shady. If there is like, even if they're yeah, the conspiracy theory. I know you have nothing to do with this. Yeah. Like candy and Phaedra are friends and she's holding on to Apollo stuff. Like I don't care what Todd's leadership with Apollo is. Candy was friends with Phaedra first and Todd should respect that and should say sorry Apollo, but like can't do this. I mean, this bro can be a girl who always like she she's like I'm girl power and everything she talks about is girl power this girl power that but she's always single and then she decides fuck it. This is it. I'm going to get a husband and she finds some asshole and then every every choice she makes is based on that fucking asshole and her whole life is about girl power, but she's going to do anything she can do. I don't even think it's. That was his friend. I think it's not a big deal. Any girl knows that you don't keep your felon husband shit in the garage. Every girl knows that. That's bullshit. Yeah. I think that I think ultimately candy beats marches to her own drum. I think that's why she's actually. Yeah. March is wrong. Yeah. Yeah. She I think that like she does what the fuck she wants. She does what she exactly she does unless it comes to her mom. She's under her mom's spell. But in terms of friends. We've all got to cry tonight. I think they can't be. This is like her momma's boyfriend tonight. I think that like she's there for her friends. I think she's actually probably a really good friend. But at the end of the day. She's a shady lying bitch too. Yeah. So candy it's not like candy is stupid. She's smart. She can't read a bitch. Anyone with the crazy mother can read a bitch. You have to learn how to do it. And she knows that Phaedra is lying. Phaedra is constantly lying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying regardless of. Yeah. I'm on her side still. That's the conspiracy theory I'm talking about. Regardless of that base. Just on like the fundamental like if you're supposed to be friends. You know. But I think they candy. I think that she is pretty much out for herself. And well girl code candy did wrong. But girl code also fatalized candy a lot. Yes. And she talks shit about her. So she's not good. She does. She does. Now when they were when they were pressing candy about like do you have like a click and first she was like no. But then she's like yes. But like candy also. I'm sorry. She's seen the footage now. She had to have seen that it was a total over reaction. And Phaedra got candy. I think Phaedra missed. Miss lawyer finally lawyer to her lawyer to death. Because candy was like. Don't be talking about you know like outside. She's like don't talk about taught. Chamea. And personally like well we're just like. It was like a not even like a gossipy thing. Yeah. Don't bring my man. Like candy. And then she was like well you. She's like well you know but then it's okay for Todd to be talking about me to Peter inside. Yeah exactly. Like you're like the man on this show are so not classy. Now you're going to tell me I'm not classy because I'm talking shit about a man. Fuck you. They're men. Like they're supposed to actually have manners. Even your gays are mean to women. Like that's terrible candy. And candy I think knows. But she's down on side of her Phaedra. I'm sorry. If Phaedra is allegedly your close friend. Well no Phaedra has already proven that she's not candies friends. I mean candy is wrong but Phaedra is also wrong. So I don't get candy for doubting Phaedra. I love candy. I just think that I think that in this case I do think it was unprofessional. That someone who was working for her. Would mouth off on TV about like an alleged friend. Well it just reveals that the friendship is really not that great. Yes. The Phaedra between candy and Phaedra has been over for a long time. Because they're both the type of person to once you fuck them over that's it. There's no second chance. Yeah. Because once you fucked me over I can't trust you. That's the end. You know. I'm kind of like that. I don't like cut it but I'm nice and that's it. There's like that's a wall. That's a wall up. Yeah. I get it and I get them both. They're both wrong and they're both right in their own ways. But candy, I like that candy this time said. It's not that they're employees. It's that they're my best friends. And Phaedra said yeah but you're a click. And I felt like it was a click. And she said that's right. I click up. Yeah. And that's right. You know that is my click bitch. And if you're not going to be my best friend. I know that they are. They've been around a long time. And you haven't. So if you're already untrustworthy. Bye now. Yeah. So that being said though. Don Juan totally overreacted. I mean Don Juan's horrible but that's why I love candy. She'll stand up for Joyce. She'll stand up for Don Juan. She'll stand up for Carmen. You know I'm all those people right. Like I'm every person I hate. So I'm every candy click. I'm every mama joys. So so then the final big fight of the night was that all during the entire episode. Kenya kept on interrupting especially Kim. And Kim was getting. She was getting angrier and angrier. And finally she just lost her shit. She's like would you stop interrupting? And then Kenya's like what's my right to interrupt? And then Kenya's like do not like Kim's like don't interrupt anymore. She's like I am not a child. Well you act like a you know classic like mom to child mommy. Yeah. You are I'm taking up your DVD tray. Sir young man you put down that salt. You will not much big business. These these socks belong in the hamper. You're on the back back with the dog seat. And so then that I love how Kenya in her attempts to show that she doesn't always interrupt keeps on interrupting. And then finally Kim starts to say something and Kenya like like blanches or something. She starts to give like say something. Say something I dare you. And that's when she was like what are you going to do? What are you going to do? But not even a mean way like so excited. She was just sitting there like oh KPS. What's you going to do KPS? You're going to get it. You're going to get it. You're going to get it. You're going to get it. You're going to get it. You're going to get it. Say something. Say something. Say something. I'm losing faith in you. Say something. Say something. Say something. Say something. That was a good moment. Overall. Shire. I don't know why you people are abusing Shire. I know she's terrible. Probably is a person. She's like we're loving it. We're not you got loading. I don't got loading. Like she's probably awful. But Shire could be better than me. If you just show her. Just show her doing that because she does it all night. You see her doing it in every episode. Shire. She's like I won't make up. Did you want to make up? I won't make up. Listen. Shire. They just need to put Shire back on the show and give her someone to go off on. And we will be happy because when Shire gets mad. That is like mana from heaven. Shire was the only person. Claudia Jordan did a fantastic job. Although I hear that she's a horrible human being in this other show she's on. The next 15. What a perfect title. Yeah. What a beautiful poetic title. But she told me me off but no one has done it like Shire. Fix your face. No one has done it like Shire. I mean that was the first time me literally ran away. She ran. She ran to her car. And the Shire chased her out. You ran for that car? Fix your seat. When is the next episode of the re doing a thing where it's like? Darling, it's like Monday, Tuesday, Thursday. Like one of those situations. The seventh. It's like a leap year. But like four times a week. No, it says the next one is. No. I'm on Bravo right now. It says Sunday at eight. No. Oh, well that's not bad a whole week. Well they probably like Sunday, Thursday and Sunday. Yeah. They probably want to give the tanker. It's a good lead in. So why don't we talk about top shift. Do you need to mark down the time code? The time code is six hours and 33 seconds. Oh, thank you. Longer than lame is. Top Chef aired its season finale this past week. It was a showdown between Amar and Jeremy Bro. Amar. How dare you? Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar. Amar and Jeremy are up in the room. Tom comes in like a little carp. He's like, hey, in all the years of doing Top Chef, I never cooked a meal before. So you might guess, sit down and you might decide it. This is the season finale. And you guys? Deserve on me? Four courses? Made my meal? Umami? It was crazy. And he cooked every weird thing. He cooked once before. I think he cooked in a quick fire once. But it was sort of cool to see him actually cooking. And it was also adorable because he put on these little spectacles. He was like, hold on, I'm putting my bifocals on. You know that I love that an old white bald guy who's really short does the same thing that like a hot 20-year-old blonde girl skinny as hell does to look smart. Put on glasses. So he makes him a little meal. And I was like, my heart was like singing. I was like, it's Tom in the kitchen. And then bro was like, yeah, a great meal bro. Great meal bro. I was like, yeah, man. That was a good meal. Yes, man. Good meal, bro. Get out of here with your double accent, bros. Once enough. So, um, so then, uh, then it was, what did you say? Pick a chef. Yeah, now it's time to pick a chef. And not only did they do the traditional picking a chef where, I guess, it was a Marta Kwame and then it was a Kwame and he has like the dodgeball thing. But I like in this one that people like Marjorie get picked in the dodgeball round. Yeah, you know. Yeah. And she was second, but she was not last. And there's like a hundred chefs there, you know. Yeah. I like when they show all the chefs. It's like, look, lesbian is pink hair. Look, the really young crazy girl who's like all upset and insecure. And I think that, um, that, um, Jeremy chose Angeline or whatever name is Angelina, the, the, the testy, like 21 year olds who's like, I can show, I'm going to show them all. I can cook. Yeah. Yeah. She's like a, like a baby's boxer. You don't boil broccoli like that. Oh my God. Now's not the time to rebel little lady. So, but interestingly, uh, their mentors came out. So Jean Georges and, uh, Charlie Palmer and they, like the head of Chili's and the head of Applebee's. Coming together. Head to head. Oh, dare you. I mean, I know. I'm like, who are you? Get out. But what was interesting was. It created the awesome blossom. You automatically win. So a Mar, a Mar, all of a sudden reveals that, like Charlie Palmer was my mentor. Although we had a falling out because, you know, I was cocky and I may have said something and I may have said some things. I'm like, may have said some things. You just glossed over clearly a dark chapter because then Charlie Palmer was like, yeah, I used to bring him around my family and he was basically like my child. And, you know, then we had a dark period. I was like, I hope you learned. Happened. And you know what was missing from that whole story? An apology. Mm hmm. That was so shady of Top Chef. Yeah. When Charlie Palmer opens his own restaurant, fucks Charlie Palmer over, tells him off, probably drunk, and like full on French fries because, you know, at the end of the day, you can make a vlog run in two minutes, but a French fry will always win. He's like benching and drunk on something. He's like, fuck you, Charlie Palmer, and then leaves and opens the chilies somewhere out, like a chilies, too, like the airport chilies. Yeah. And then never talks to Charlie Palmer again. And then they're like, hey, hey, chilies, Palmer, do you want to come be a Mar's guest? Contestant on Top Chef. And he's like, oh shit. I told that guy off for a time. I haven't talked to him again. Yeah. And then meanwhile, meanwhile, you know, cut to like the meal, the final meal. And they're like, and Palmer's like, oh, she's like, the soup, the sauce is delicious. And Charlie Palmer's like, yeah, I made it. He's like, ooh. Palmer Palmer, that's my cousin. Have you ever had nice tea where a lemonade floats on top? Call me, bitch. Charlie, your Arnold Palmer wins Top Chef. Please unpack your knives and stay. So the final meal looked actually super delicious. I mean, everything that was coming out of that kitchen. I didn't know how they were going to choose. I was like catering a hometown buffet. I mean, that was like 20 things that came out of there. It couldn't even keep up. And it's like toast, sashimi. Well, that's where Amar went wrong. Amar, Amar, he did another crudo-esque thing. But actually, Amar was saying, fuck you to Jeremy with every meal. He was like, Jeremy's always in trouble for crudo. I'm making a kind of crudo. Oh, every time Jeremy won a competition, he goes go, fuck. Yeah, fuck, bro, shit, fuck. I'm like, jeez, like try to contain yourself there a little bit. Every win is a pornhub come shot. Like, everyone. He's like, yay! Like, really, you've done this 5,000 times. Get over it, Jeremy, telling. So it looked like an absolutely amazing meal. I was kind of rooting for Amar because Jeremy's bro thing kind of, like, annoyed me. But, you know, it looked like two delicious meals. When I can get a boner at this age, just randomly watching the cooking show, you win. Jeremy could literally strangle a puppy on TV. And it'd be like, boner, great, you win. I don't care what you could. I didn't understand what either one of them were making. Amar is making crudo. Jeremy's making some, like, aspirin-dipped fish and a sauce cultivated from a tree in Africa. It's like, what the fuck are you doing? And then he made, like, a honey... It's an enchilada. Yeah, a honey, a honey water. And Tom even laughed. Tom laughed while he had to criticize that dish. He was, like, really a honey water. You pour some honey in some water. Why you got to call shit emulsions? You put some honey in a water. Get over yourself, brah. And Tom knows. He's a stoner brah. He wouldn't flip-flops him to that table. It's been in the news. Well, Amar tried to do really good tasting food. But what killed Amar is what kills so many of the second place people. He was trying to beat the other person in personal ways. He was trying to get Jeremy. Like, remember how Jeremy always does Krito? I'm going to beat him with a Krito. You know how Jeremy got in trouble for risotto? I'm going to do risotto, but I'm going to flavor it better. They said that that was the best... That risotto, though, which looked amazing. Gail said it was the best risotto they've had in years on that show. Well, Gail wears mesh tops. I mean, like, she doesn't... Insecurity never will taste as good as anything else. Like, if they feel like competition or insecurity, it tastes gross. You know, confidence wins. And Jeremy is a bra, but he's still trying to do some science shit. And they were like, "Well, Amar's tasted way better." But Jeremy made more effort in the scientific artistic department. I think they were basically like... They're like, "Well, you know, we saw Jeremy's brother with the sunglasses on his head and like the 1994 tie and the black shirt." And we thought, "You know what? This could have been a lot worse for Jeremy, and he's come a long way, so we're just going to give it to him." We know how it could have turned out for him. A mark can eat better, but Jeremy can cook better. And plus, he had to put up with that tie. Oh, God bless him. Give it to him, bro. Jeremy basically... He was on a Guy Fieri track. So the fact that he went up with John George is a miracle unto itself. So, yeah, he doesn't serve the winner. Also, he never just never called John George back. Like, Omar, fuck off. You can pretend you're grateful, and you're all happy for everybody else. But at the end, you had a bitter dinner that was full of emotions after being addicted to your mentor chef. And the other dude, bro, was like happy with his single "Father Life" and his mentor who taught him everything and surfing and jerking off. Like, you know, alone. Because you know Jeremy does. So Omar, you know, confidence. You little bitter fucker. Get out of here. Clearly, Omar, I literally don't even know what you're mad at right now. Me neither. It feels so good. You're just talking yourself into circles until you're angry about something. I like it. You see? I've learned to just like it. It feels so good, man. But, you know, since you, uh, since you just talked to Lugi, maybe we can... Oh, lucky are you. I have me teach you about me. You have a friend. I love that no matter what we make fun of or all the songs we make fun of, you will always make the ones that stick in my mind the most pain. How? You know that I did a... I did a snit version of that, of the... I originally, now's the time. What? Now's the time to bring it out? Oh, yeah, no, I had... the original version of the Clear the Flum thing was... It was actually a little... it was like a little ditty. And then I realized that it didn't quite hit the mark, but I can't... You don't have it now? Do you have it right now? Oh, no, I do have it. I do have it here. It's really silly. For those of you who have never listened, this is Caroline Fleming from Ladies of London. Amazing Instagram account. Follow it. We hate... we'd love to hate it. Okay. Play the thing, Ben. Okay, so you already heard the normal theme. This is the theme... This is the one that did not make the cut. This is the second place theme. What are the lyrics? The lyrics are... look over there. Who could it be the most beautiful woman in Denmark? It's time for all my photographers. Look over there, who could it be the most beautiful woman in Denmark? I feel like that version could be an entire musical. Yeah, I realized it didn't really... it didn't really get to the core of who Caroline Fleming was. Oh, lucky are you to have that of me to teach you about me. Okay, so here, this is when we look at Caroline Fleming's Instagram account. Caroline Fleming of Ladies of London. So the picture that I've chosen, it's just a bouquet. And it says #nofilter. How lucky to come home to these #flowers saying it with such beauty. You know who you are. Thank you so much. X, space. X. So I'm glad that she didn't hashtag like a company. That's nice. I mean, it's bad that she's not making as much promo money. 'Cause most of them are like #flowers for sale. #flowers rent a flower. #itmotherday rent a flower. So that's good. She's like doing something for real. Yeah. Do you want me to read yoga? No, say it again. Yeah, do the... No, I can say you should do the one, the most reasonable, where she's in sort of like smiling. Oh, fuck off, you stretch. Smiling yoga. But she's really just doing like a lunge with outstretched spirit fingers on opposite sides. Caroline Fleming official @trubyapp. Okay. Well, there you go. At least she's plugging something. By the way, your head is right by a light switch and a heater thermostat. Congratulations, you classy bitch. @trubyapp and @chilsey_segalbale. Left my life many years ago and here's to it coming back with the vengeance. Just love this season. I can't wait for the next time. Exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point to all of you wonderful people out there. Ballet touches every muscle and molecule of your human body. I can't recommend it more. I have the muscle I haven't even know existed. It's great x dot x. I love her. Well, Trippy app, they made her put her further up to the, okay, bam. Okay, there's a thermostat, a light switch. Then on her other hand, spirit fingers, a triple pronged, I think electrical outlet, and then below it a fader next to a door with like one, two, three, four locks. Where is she living? She's royalty, right? Some plays where bookcase dining tables are in high demand. Gotta keep them out. I have a suitcase that is also a side table. Ben, there's another triple outlet by the suitcase. Look at it. Are you looking at it right now? I'm not making this hat. No, I see it. This is so crazy. I like how alarmed and excited you got. There's another one, Ben. Look, there's like seven electrical outlet type things and like five locks. And she's trying to pretend she's relaxed. Get out of here. There's ten locks. All right. Well, that is clear. Clear the flame. Clear the flame. All right, late night. Watch what Crapin's continues now with the real house wasopatomic. And I check notes. Oh, thank God. So this only takes more hours. So the breaking news is that this week's episode of Potoma opened with nary a shot of the fawn. I don't know where the fawn went. The fawn was not featured at all this entire episode. There's only so long a fawn can be terrified before it just runs the fuck away. There ain't no fawn left in Potoma. So we had shots as like that, like opening montage thing where you see the women doing things. It's like Robin wants like a live musician for something. Robin's like picking the shit out of her toenails lame ass Robin. Hey, Juan. Look at my shit in my toenails. This one smells like carpet and poop. Where'd the carpet come from? This is from a Ponzi scheme. So then, so Giselle meets with a skincare chemist because Giselle decided that she wants to start a makeup line. It's like just another real housewives shark tank experiment. A woman named Giz trying to figure out the perfect facial. You know, this show may be terrible, but at least it's fitting. Yeah. So Giselle, so she's going to be arranging a focus group for her line of skincare, not skincare, but like makeup. But she's meeting with a chemist and the chemist is like matching her skin tone and they're doing all this time. And then they finally get it. It's like perfect. It's just like her skin tone. And Giselle's like, she's like, I'm going, I will meet the need of all women of color. I'm like, yeah, as long as they have your skin tone. I don't understand how I have it. Like you getting it matching your skin is going to meet the needs of all the women. So then Giselle starts, she's sitting there with this chemist and then she starts floating branding ideas. She's like, how about if I call it this? Or how about, she's like, how about, how about like this font or something? I don't know what, but, but the chemist is like, uh, I'm like, you realize you're dealing with a chemist? Not a brand expert. The woman just wants to get to her like four p.m. where she can make soap for, you know, the woman down in silver springs. She's like, whatever you say, I've already laid out eight little jars of the exact same powder. So nothing you're going to say is going to make me reformulate a powder. Put whatever you want on your face. Tell me what it is. I'll make some and put your brand name on it. Stupid. So then we go on to Katie's terror children, which are like screaming during petantrums. And so Katie's at home and Andrew comes in and Katie's talking about how crazy the women were in Bethany Beach. And I will say, so I do think that Katie is generally just kind of a spoiled, like just a spoiled girl. You know, I mean, how many people is she tried to like bully into marrying her and they won't, but I won't leave your house until you do. And then she gets those Garfield like half closed eyes and just gets mean. And she's like, I'll write a blog about you. Yeah, but that being said, even though I do feel like she sort of, you know, I think that she's like nice, but spoiled. But I do agree with what she was saying when she was saying how like during the sister circle, they were like, now you share now you share and she didn't really want to share and they got upset that she didn't want to share and she's like, well, why can't we just go and have fun? Why do we have to do sister circle? And I get that you're there for like a beach weekend. Why do you have to do sister circle? Cherise? Yeah, like you just got, look, Cherise just wanted to complain about her divorce and fake cry with her terrible pointy nails and her fucking terrible eyelashes and her wig. Like these women are so fake. Look, if Katie doesn't want to share that shit after she was just called to drug addict or on national television by Giselle and then supported by everybody else, would you want to share? Well, so now this gets me to my next point. I know you're, I know where you're going to, I know what you're going to say. Who cares, you know. But Katie, so Katie then starts saying how she starts saying how Giselle was so mean and so nasty to her. I honestly like, I don't think that Giselle was was mean and nasty. I think Giselle is being nosy, perhaps you could say nosy. She said three episodes in a row that girls the drug addict, basically. You're being a drug addict on national TV with four babies of almond trying to land a gay person. She just got a misses sign up on a guest room that she redecorated without permission with someone else's credit card and she ain't even married. I mean, that's sad. Yeah, but you know what though, Katie was acting ridiculous at that one party and if Giselle wasn't going to say it, we were going to say it. Okay. Oh, yeah, she was. Yeah, she was. I agree. Yeah. So, so, but here's the thing. Here's, here's what I want to say about Katie and Giselle, et cetera, et cetera. So, I think that when, when Giselle said at Bethany, like, I want to know, were you on something like what was going on. It probably was in delicate for her to ask that. It probably was, you could say it was rude. You could say it was nosy. I don't think it was mean, though, but I don't think, you know, I don't think so. I don't, I really don't think it was cup in the sea. I think, I think maybe if you have a guilty conscience, it was cup in the sea, you know, and I think that. And the thing is that Katie is also Katie right now is, is at a moment where she's primed to really dislike Giselle because what happened was two, two or three episodes ago, Katie sat down the girls and was like, Hey, can you guys all share my event. And by the way, it's going to be in two weeks and I want you to help me put it together in two weeks and I haven't started doing anything for it. And just always like, no, I don't want to do that. And then Katie got all mad. She got mad at Giselle and a robin and was like, they don't want to help me. They don't, this is a Ross foundation. We're going to do things. They don't want to help me. So now she's like mad at them for that. I'm a fan of Giselle. I know you're not a fan of Giselle, but the truth is, I think that basically when Giselle said no to that charity thing. And you know, Giselle doesn't know where she's like, no, no thanks. Like, like, not like polite, no thanks. Like, no, Katie, then she then wound up on Katie's shit list. And then anything that Giselle has done since then has pissed off Katie, no matter what, because Katie, that's why, so when, so when Giselle read the blog that Katie wrote when she was also cut fit in the sea of her to do. But it wasn't though, like, as I can imagine, I can imagine if you say, if you're on a road trip and someone goes, oh, yeah, the breakup was bad. I mean, I wrote some really crazy blogs about it. And so I was like, oh my God, I want to read it. Let's read what you wrote. And then someone reads it. And then she's like, I can't believe you read what I wrote when you're the one who introduced that you wrote those blogs. And there's a difference. If you did that to me, okay, because you will one day. I mean, come on, for us. So if you're sitting in the backseat of my, like, rented Ford or whatever they were in, and you were like, hey, you wrote a blog about your feelings. Okay. Ronnie, this is so funny. Blah, blah, blah. And then you, and then you stayed in his room. Ronnie, good job. Like, you'd be supportive because you, like, understand when I cut fitnessiness and make fun of me in a good, natured way. Yeah. Where she was just being mean. She's like, no, I don't think it thought fucking. See, here's the thing. I'm not a man. She was laughing at me. That's what Katie got bad at. She got her feelings. Here's the thing, because you already don't, you already really hate Giselle. And Katie right now is a place where she hates Giselle. So when Giselle reads this thing, I think people who don't like Giselle are going to project that on to her that she was reading it to be cut fantasy. Right. I think she's reading it because she was, you know, she was like, Oh, my God, he wrote this thing. I want to read this. This sounds funny. And then she reads it. I think she thinks it's just like, like, just a funny thing. I mean, maybe there were some pasta or Russian in it. Like, maybe there was some, but I don't think it's as nasty. I don't think it's certainly not at the level of being our cut fitness. Yes. Like when you're, like, when you say you hate her or whatever. Yes, I do. But it's not because she wears a color. I don't like, or I just don't like her dye job. She's a hateful cut fitness. Like, to me, to me, everything I see her do is hate a bowl. Like, I'm not just coming with some random reason to hate her. No, I know, but I'm saying, but my judgment may be completely unfounded. That's the thing, though. If this is a woman that you've been feeling for a long time is hateable. And of course, you're going to bring that to the fact that everything that. And I'm saying that's what Katie does, too, because Katie is still angry about that charity thing. So speaking of the charity thing, this is what's funny about all that. So now, while, while Giselle's putting together a focus group, Katie, Katie's goes to DC swim week. Since, because all of a sudden, Washington DC, Washington, DC is where you go to find the latest swim trends. You know, the famous beach city of Washington, DC, where everyone is in your living room with it, or your living room with it. It's like, is Ebon going to be bottling at those events? It was the funny guy from Empty Nast. What was like the funny friend's name? Oh, David, oh, his name, not Harry, Charlie. Just like the cheesy guy in every show in that, Charlie. He was Joe Zuzu also. Yeah. So, so the funny thing is, so Katie goes to like DC swim week, and she's like, you know what, I've decided to put the Ross Foundation event on the back burner. And you know, it's, I have to get out there and work. And, and she starts, she starts saying how like, going to like DC swim week is, she's like, this is work. This is, she's work. She's, she's doing her, doing her job right now by going. If she had a charity that was actually about something like fixing spinal cord cancer, I don't know, like something important. But her charity is raising charity money for other charities randomly. It's not even a specific, it's like the middle man charity. It's like when, when you check out at Ross Dress for Less, and they're like, would you like to donate a dollar to the children with like, you know, brain old fluid, you know, AIDS or whatever. And you're like, no, I don't want to because I don't even know that that money's going to them. That's what Katie's charity is. Fuck off Katie. Well, and this is why no one wanted to participate, you know, because everyone's like, yeah, okay, those classy charities. But like, well, because Katie is like, okay, I've decided to do something in two weeks. I don't know what it is. I don't know where it's going to be. But I've decided to do something and I'd like to help me at a high level. And then she was, I think she just puts on the back, I've decided to put on the back burner because, you know, they're more important things to do, like, you know, go to DC swimwear week, whatever. This was the episode of Potomac proving what it is. Poor ass bitches trying to be rich. She had to back out of her charity because she just couldn't do it. No one's going to come to your middleman made up charity. Okay. And guess who else? Ronald McDonald, brow, drag queen, Dwight with a wig? Karen. Well, there are assistant any she's raising funds for Alzheimer's. Yeah. So, so Karen had told Katie a few weeks ago she couldn't help out because she's like, she's she's putting together a gala for the huger, the huger or cubers, I forget. But she's putting together a gala. And so, so Karen is, it's one of these ridiculous. It's all time of gala darling. So Karen is Karen and her assistant any are, are organizing this make non memories. It's like the blind leading the blind. I mean, you want to talk about it. It's funny if you were talking about Leah Black at the top of the show. For those of you who remember season one, and maybe was in season one. Yeah, the black gala, but that's where like, you know, Leah Black's like, all right, well, Flo Ryan has arrived at three. You know, and you have to say Leah Black's gala. That's a copy storyline. Everybody does that storyline after that. But the difference is that Leah Black, they had it in this one. Yeah. But Leah Black throws like a legit. Yes. Charity. I mean, like Flo Ryan is there and like, I don't know. She's like, why is that fun? Can't keep me Spanish? I love it. I love a people are in. People are in black tie. People are like, there are like a few hundred people there. So then you have Karen and her assistant and Karen's like, all right, I need to have some cherry blossoms. And, oh, we had any like, get the fuck out of here. What did you go to like a sushi place? I like that any is like, and what about an opera singer and Karen gives this look like, are you being ridiculous? But then she's, but then she kinda is like, no to opera singer, but I am open to praise dancers. And he's like, okay, well, how about praise dancers or like an R&B band? Or how about someone to play the harp and then black Bill Gates walks in and I was like, what are you ladies doing? He's like, we're doing a cocktail party for crying out. So now, so now off to, so off to, I mess up the timeline a little bit, but now we go to Giselle's focus group where there's a hot Turkish bartender. The biggest talk of the show that man might have just saved the show. Not for me. He didn't say the show for me because I already love the show. Doesn't need. I think that man was beat. I've never seen so many people comment about one thing other than Karen's tits and her eyebrows hanging down to her tits, which are other things. This Potomac? Potomac is great for like a hot guy cameo. I mean, where's Uncle Gilbert? We have not seen Uncle Gilbert in forever. Who needs him? Turkish bartender moved in. Give him a spin off. Turkish bartender? That's a show right there, catering bartender. Yeah. So, let's see. So Giselle said, I guess Giselle was talking to Ashley and she's like, this is where Giselle has some bullshit. She was talking to Ashley about the whole Bethany Beach and she's like, I don't mind that your husband was there, but it was how you handled it. I'm like, no, you care that he was there. Come on, Giselle. I stand up for you, Giselle, but you're wrong here. You're wrong. You're just freaked out. If Giselle was confident in her cut fitness, I would be okay with her. I would like her. Shocks me that you don't see the entertainment value of Giselle. I think she is hilarious. Like, I love Giselle. What's the old one from the census with the pointy nose who's always trying to beat? Mr. Burns and Smithers. Okay. Karen is Mr. Burns and Giselle is Smithers. So anyway, so Karen shows up at the party and, you know, Karen, of course, is still mad about the whole thing that happened with Ashley. But Karen tells us, see, this is what I love about Karen, because, I mean, Karen, now Karen, I do believe, is, I mean, Karen's awful, but she cracks me up, too, in a different way. And she, of course, she always, she's always talks like she's doing everyone a favor by doing anything. She's like, so she says, she's, I'm going to speak to Ashley, because that is what a woman of my quality does. What quality is that? Like, cheap nylon, I don't know. Your nipples are barely covered. They're five times the size of your, the size of your head. You're in, like, knee length, tight ass, spandex, jeans, with a crop top, fake hair that goes back to the middle of your head. You've got fake diamonds, dandier, goddamn elbow waddles with your dandier ring. This is exhibit A. Ronnie is less angry these days. Fuck all these people. So meanwhile, while during this focus group is going on, Katie is now, she's now at swim, swim week. Katie skips the focus group, because she's still mad at Giselle. And so just, she goes to DC swim week, which is the hottest fashion show in the entire Potomac region. And those models look so sad. Yeah, they were, I wonder if they were from Linda, as her clique, a lot of her name is agency. Well, I can't remember me from DC. Hey, I got models. Anyone need a model. Hey, Bong, show everyone the new models. I love that, like, Katie, I love that Katie acts like going to swim week. Like, she's doing God's work. She's like, she's like, this is what my foundation is for. The best thing I could do for my foundation is to go to DC swim week. She literally is like, well, everyone's at the, well, put it on makeup. She goes, I'm doing real work. DC swim week. And then there's like this guy, Vincent DePaul, or something like that. That's the guy from empty desk, like, or, I feel like he's Larry from 3D's company. He's just the guy who's on everything all the time. He's, he's just something, and he's like so proud that he was on the cover of Washington Life magazine. We've both been on Washington Life magazine. She's like, yes, yes, we have. Hey, remember when we shared that spread in the penny saver? Wow, we really are two of the kinds. If time daily we're here, it'd be a trifecta. Um, and so then this, like, shitty event where there's, like, five people who were cold. It's like they're around the swimming pool at a Marriott. That bright, blueish white. Not even a Marriott. It's a courtyard by Marriott. Yeah, so then, like, the MC is like, I'd now like to introduce our, I would like to introduce Katie. Katie, you are so, so radiant. And then like the five people in the audience are like, I mean, there's moisturizer. There are fewer people there than when Tamara talked about suicide at the Women's Expo. Oh, God. Tamara's like, why weren't my friends there when I was talking about suicide while it's getting my fifth boob job and becoming crested? Batch. Vincent de Paul is so excited. And he's just like, you know, he really is acting like he's received an Oscar. And he's like waving to the crowd to the five people. He's got a full on Pitt stain in his blazer. I mean, that's bad when you have a blazer. God bless his heart. And then Katie takes this moment to congratulate herself. She's like, you know, most models last for a season. I had a career for a decade. You can check out my WordPress blog about Brussels Simmons from 2012 at 2 12 in the morning. I'm in the Mervins Fall Circular Hall of Fame. Do you remember the commercial where a woman tapped on the glass Mervins door open? Open? Open? I knew her. So let's see. So Karen and Ashley are still fighting at the focus group and they decide Karen, Karen says that the men are going to figure it out. That that's not up to her and Ashley. And Ashley's like, this is so this is a old fashioned. I don't understand it. And then. Who asked the woman to talk to the men in my dream panel? They mean to me. They just like, well, maybe 19. And then we have a scene with one and Robin. Yeah. You remember that time? Like, I saw you play sport. Yeah. I remember when you stopped me. I did. Mmm. The end. Like, remember when we watched you and the wrestlers? I love Robin's whole thing about it. I don't know if I'm going to follow one because it's a huge decision. Lady, you already divorced his ass, so he has permission to cheat and still come sleep at home, smell like someone else's pussy. Are you really going to sit there and pretend this is even a thought? What are you going to do? Stay here and work in and out. No, honey. You're going to follow Juan. Then we go to the golf course, and this is the meeting of the minds. Juan, Karen, and Ashley, and their respective husbands meet. And, you know, Cash, of course, she's like, no, golf is so feeling. Look, balls. I'm like, balls technically are not foul. Like, it's... You want a golf? Or, if you get this one in the hole, you win. And if I get it in the hole, I win double plus a blowjob from Ashley in the donkey. And he's like, all right. And so they both, like, shoot. I don't even know what you call them, so dumb at sports, but, like, shoot the ball to the golf thing. Neither one of them gets it. You both lose. You fucking... They're like, well, both loses, and then they shake hands, they go home. And then Karen's like, now I accept Ashley again. Well, they both also, like, both men, like, had this notion that they really gave each other the business. You know, Ray was like, yeah, I really let him have it when he's like, hey, my wife was uncomfortable. And then Michael was like, well, I still don't understand why she's uncomfortable. She's like, yeah, I really gave him the business. I really gave him the business. I was like, I don't know. So then we go on to the exciting world of Cherise, who's learning to swim. And, like, every Cherise scene always means, I'm starting a new chapter in my life. And this one's going to involve swimming. I'm grabbing life by the balls. I'm like, this is girl. Cherise is trying to prevent, she doesn't know how to swim when she's got a giant pool in the back of her goddamn house. She was learning to swim in her own house pool. That's four feet deep at pool. So then Karen goes flower shopping, and she's looking for a cherry blossom. Cherry blossoms. And the bad news, the gay who's working at the flower shop is like, I'm sorry, cherry blossoms are unavailable. They're out of season. She's like, oh, this is not a sheber sort of party without cherry blossoms. Can you import them? He's like, no, because they're out of season. All right. So can you get them from, no, because they're out of season. You can't get them anywhere. Should have been there. They're out of season. I would like to talk to Mother Nature's manager, because this is not how we do things. Is Mother Nature married to a man? What would the man think? And that would never. The Huguerville Gala seems like it's going right off the rails. I'd love to see Karen yell at the time change. This is not how the hugas do it. 8 p.m. is not in the daylight. How dare you? It's not save time. That is a tactless thing to do. And then I love that. But I love how Karen always tries to sound super educated and professional. And then they go, they find some roses. And she's like, what's the name of this particular rose? And he's like, it's called freedom. Freedom. It's like thanks a lot. The girls got cookie. What do they call it? Thanks a lot. The rose. I will have lots of freedom at my party. Get me 58 freedom roses. So then it's finally time for this event. And this Gala turns out to be a cocktail party with 14 people. I'm literally like just people standing around having drinking cocktails. And like people from the cold to sack. It's not like Hillary Clinton flew in for this, you know? Yeah. And Karen's like, this cocktail party is a call to action. That's right. We're going to make cherry blossoms grow all year round. Enough of this madness cherry blossoms only for one weekend in the spring. We're doing them. We're doing them on cherry blossoms November. You got them in November. That's now Ashley. This is how you have an open bar in your living room with your own Costco vodka. So then Katie comes in and Katie is like, you know, Katie's being all shady. She's like, this is the, this is the Gala that she said she was working on. She could help with the Ross Foundation. This is it. I'm like, well, at least she put something together, Katie. At least she didn't skip out to DC's one week. Glad no one had new thongs on the market. Karen starts giving us speech. And then Ash and Michael show up during the speeches are ringing the doorbell and no one will answer. They just keep on ringing it like, oh, it's not working. Ding dong. Ding dong. Ding dong. Ding dong. Ding dong. And Karen's like, we would like to thank you all for coming to the future at dot T, not warm enough. Thank God that bitches did pre Gala. Ding dong. So then then the band lets Ashley in and then she walks in and she walks up to a waiter. She's like, oh, hello, me, baby. This glass is so phallic. So then, so then like Ashley's gossiping with everyone and she's like, oh, did you hear? You know, Karen won't let like Raven hang out with us because she thinks we're all bad influences. So then everyone's like, mad. Like, how could you think we're bad influences? They ask Karen. Ben, wait, wait, before we get there, I have to ask you a question because I literally just wrote down a question mark. They cut to the scene of her in the car or wherever. Dumb one saying or no, Karen saying, I don't even want my daughter to hang out with blah, blah, blah. Who did she say? Did she say you girls or just because what happened was Ashley and Karen were talking to Karen and she was like, yeah, I really want to get to know Raven. And then Karen was like, no, you're not going to get to know Raven because she's a teenager and she doesn't need your influence because you're too close to the age. And I think Karen was absolutely right, by the way. Did she say all that or did she just say no, no, children are off limits? She said she's going to miss the clips. She said children are off limits. She basically, I mean, yeah, something like that. Because I can tell if she was really saying like, I don't want her to hang out with you. But then when I don't think she was saying like, no, she was like, no, not him. Yeah, like you're my friend. You're not hanging out with my daughter, which I think is a hundred percent. It's bad in us. I'm trying to be friends with someone 30 years younger. So yeah, exactly. So then Ashley tries to make it sound like Karen. So Karen got really mad and was like, no, I don't want Raven hanging out with you, which I agreed with. And then Karen tries to explain it and she's like, I don't want you hanging out with Raven. It's a preference. It's a preference. I just love how Karen just tries to wrap everything up. And some sort of high-minded academic way, much like I'm trying to do it. But she knows. No, no, no. But you know what the difference is? The huge ones, by the way. But you know the words. She doesn't know what she's taught. It's a preference. She went way too far on Ashley for that. She got so mad at her like she's in the middle of a ballroom. And Ashley really didn't say anything that mean. I think that Karen, she, Karen could have just said, no, that's not what I said. I said I didn't want you because I don't think she could have just been like, no, you just misheard it. But Karen, of course. Well, to wrap it up, to wrap it up tightly because I know, you know, it's the end of a long time band. God bless you. And I'll wrap it up like the most patient sister in the world does when her child is going crazy. One time when I met the baby, she's two years old, one of her babies. I was fighting with the baby in the backseat. And Carly had to say, Ronnie, that's a baby. You're yelling at a two year old. And I was like, you know what? You're right, Carly. And to Ben, I say, the same thing. You're right, Ben. I know. But those fuckers got to be yelled at too. How's they going to learn? I'm talking to you, Karen. Well, baby, any year old. Anyway, it's one thirty in the morning, which is really like four thirty in the morning. And if you were a baby, you would have started crying a long time ago. Thanks, everybody, for listening. I know, darling, but you're not on the outside. That's called maturity. Everybody. Thanks for listening. Watch our crappins.com. All our links. I still love you, Bob. I really love you, Bob. Ben, you know what? I feel confident that you do. And I love you so much. And I love you guys for listening. We're going to be back with such a fun show on Thursday. And guess what? I'll probably be drunk again. Ben. Take an aspirin. It's a surprise, Bob. No, no. You're coming. That's a special event. You're actually coming to my apartment for the first time. It's time. Yeah. Oh, babe. Everybody. We'll see you then. Ben, I love you. Love you guys. Bye. Bye. 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