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I'm gonna make a call after this podcast and see if we can lock down a location. - Experiment rhinos on our speed dial. - Yes, so fun week to talk about Bravo shows. - Oh yes. - A lot of fun shit happened. What would you like to start with? Should we do Atlanta first since that was like the big one? - Yeah, why not? - I mean, I say the big one, but there's like 18,000 reunions for Atlanta. - Yeah. - I know, I love that I'm hosting today, so I get to pick what we like start with, and I'm not open to Atlanta at all. I'm open to the real hashwives of Miami. - Gil, Sean Sean Sean, Gil. - Yeah. - All right. More Melbourne. - Oh, really much wise of Atlanta. - No, let's do Atlanta. Let's get right into Atlanta. - Well, first off, Anthony changed it up this reunion. - Yes. - He didn't just say hi to everybody. Instead, he said hi, I like your lipstick. - Yeah. - Hi, I like your hair. - Yeah, we had a montage of him like loitering in various women's dressrooms and being like, "Ooh, this wig is giving me some Diana Ross," or something like that. Like, just go away, Andy, just stop it. - Yeah. - Stop it. - We don't need to see the real Andy. - Okay. - Andy, whoever, by the way, whoever did the makeup on Andy, I mean, they made him look like Howdy Duty or something. He looked like a little ventro. Chilk was dialed with like rosy red cheeks and lipstick. It was not his strongest look. - You're supposed to give him Ode to Gamble during the Melbourne reunion, all right? Which wouldn't that be amazing if there was a Bravo Melbourne reunion? - I wish there were. I hope there is one. I hope Andy Cohen does one. - That just lasts until next season. - Every week. - It'll just be five minutes of him going like, "Hi, Lydia. "Hi, Andy. "Hi, Petty Floor. "Hello, Andy. "Hi, Gina. "Hello, Andy. "Hi. "Hi. "Good day. "Hi. "Thanks so much for being here. "They all just didn't go away." - God bless his heart. I love when it got really bad. And he's like, "This is good. "Okay, so let's talk." We started off with the montage. First of all, Andy is like, "This is like a Zen palace. "This room that we're in." - I'm like, "What?" - It's a girl wearing white. - They put those girls in a zoo. The Atlantic girls were in a zoo for their reunion, which was kind of awesome. - There was nothing Zen about it. It was like a cold, echoey space. And they were all wearing white, which if anything makes it look like Mount Olympus, not a Zen garden. That's right. Welcome to Watch for Crap-ins, where we make an issue over the smallest three-letter word. He said, "Zan, it's not a used property of Zen." Where was the rake? Where were the pebbles? - I just wish someone came and put some pellets in Nini's mouth every once in a while. - Look, honey, don't get too close. Just give her a pellet or she'll bite you. - It's all right. I'm wrong, you're right. - Oh God, the biggest Nini, Nini's defense this time. Nini's offense this time was victims. She's the victim. Everything that's ever happened, Nini, who's been the victim in. She's like, "Oh, I'm wrong and you're right. "Okay, then, I'm wrong and you're right. "That's all I have to say, Andy. "I'm wrong and you're right." - Shut the fuck up with your fake accountability. She puts that up there like a wall, she doesn't listen. And then she-- - And then it fits nothing. - I get so mad. If anything, and then she says, it pretty much started with her being like, "Well, I turned on the TV and I couldn't believe "some people just hate me. "They just hate me." And Andy's like, "Who?" And she's like, "Well, candy for one." I was like, "That was the last person I expected Nini to say." - Well, and if you're watching the show, how can you not hate yourself? Like, who watches themselves? Like, I can't listen to this show, I fucking hate myself. Why would you watch yourself and then walk away loving yourself? That's some issues. Most people don't do that. Most people even hear their voice recorded and they're mortified. And Nini's like, "Everybody else is the problem." - No, she's a monster. She's a materialistic monster. I mean, do you see how much she smiled, man? And he's like, "Oh, I heard you moved into an expensive house." She's like, "Yes." And anytime anyone said, "Well, I mean, "you made a lot of money." She smiles very quick. She's like, "Yes." It's like, this is the only thing that makes her happy is when people talk about how rich she is. - Yeah, she's a sad woman, but I loved in the previous for next week how she's yelling. She's like, "You don't make fun of my husband." Her boobs are like flying out of her stupid jacket. Put those things away, all right? You're gonna need to rely on those another day, but today is not the day. - So the reason why she feels like candy hates her is because when candy was tongue defaedra and candy said, "Well, if you can make up with Nini, "then you can make up with so-and-so," or something like that. And Nini interpreted that as like, "Well, you hate me, that I'm a monster. "Like, it's so hard to make up with me." And candy was like, "See, no, the reason why." I said that, it was because, you know, like you guys had a beef for many years. And then Nini's like denying they had like a beef. - Nini, yeah, she's such a liar. She can't even just say, "Yeah, I was mean to portion "of the first year, but she's like--" - No, faedra, faedra. - Or faedra. I just write P. But she's like, you know, I never had a problem. What did I ever say about faedra? They're like, "Uh, hello?" You said you didn't know her last year, you called her the head doctor, whatever. She's like, "Whatever." She never said bad things about me, right? Oh, it's my, I'm the one to blame, it's my fault. It's my fault. I take the blame. - Yeah. - The fact that she would even come at candy like that, like that can, like, almost imply that candy might even be the source of all this acrimon is-- - Yeah, 'cause she's trying to make problems with her and faedra. So it's just, you're so transparent, just go away. - Yeah, I mean, candy was even like-- Candy was like, "I don't hate you." She's like, "I just hate your stank ass attitude, you know?" - Yeah. - "Stank ass attitude?" - Candy is the best. She's always been one of my favorites, but especially now, I love watching her just tell me you need to go fuck herself and not give a shit, you know? - And you know, candy probably has more money than all those women combined, you know? And she never goes out and starts bragging about how much money she has. I mean, she buys an extra mansion for her mom. She has an extra mansion for her mansion. - She's just trying to make more money. She's like, "Yeah, I got some money, now buy a dick." How's your chance to buy a dick? - Yeah. - She loves books for crying out loud. She was in that song, you know, like, like, you with that, you with that, you know, you know, look it up. - Candy girl, that's my-- - Can I just am that? Do it again. - Yeah, I forget what the song is called. You've heard it before a million times. I never knew for all these years that she was the woman on that song. - Well, yeah, shake, dang, dang, dang, dang. - Yeah, you do that. - Oh, I know what you're saying. - You with that, dang, dang, dang, dang, dang. - Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. - No, no, no, nah, nah, nah, nah. - Well, she wrote that. - Yeah, she wrote bills. - That's all you need to know. She wrote bills. - She also was-- The point is this, where's Nini's song? - Pay me telephone bill, pay my automobile. - Oh, no. - Don't need to be 'cause you ain't done. - Yeah. - Do, do, do, do. - I love singing that, but I just-- It doesn't really fit 'cause I just-- I don't pay my bills. - This is-- - I pay my bills. By the way, this is the sort of musical entertainment you can look forward to in our live show. - Yeah, I don't pay my bills. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no. - I block every number you use. - Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. - You think she wrote bugaboo also? I think she did write some of bugaboo. - Well, I'm the problem. So one of my favorite Nini moments in this is right in this moment where she's like, and suddenly-- Candy's like, suddenly, you're friends with Vadra. - What did I look forward to? - And Vadra, like, he was friends, but then Vadra's like, whoa, but, hi, how was Nini? - And Nini tries to victim it up again. She's like brandy glam-villing this whole thing, and she's like, well, I understood where she was coming from because I know what it's like when my husband left me-- - I'm like, was she marrying before? 'Cause that's not exactly what happened, Nini. You started treating Greg like shit for no reason. Then you made him move into the basement. Then he talked on the phone to his friend who recorded him on accident and ended up on some radio show, which, you know, is like a total Greg mistake. And then, like, she was awful to Greg. She was awful to him. He didn't even do anything to her. She made-- - And their divorce was so-- - She was a bitch to him for no reason to have a storyline on the air, and she was gonna dump him for somebody better. And then she used him for a spin-off. She's the worst. I'm like, are you really gonna cry because that is not what happened in your marriage? So please stop. - Yeah. And what about Cynthia? I mean, Cynthia's been divorced. In fact, not only that, Cynthia divorced from a very-- Oh, actually, maybe they weren't married. I don't know, but no one else's father. Either way, she knows what it's like to lose a good man. (laughs) - A hot one, at least. - A hot man. - Those are two different, yeah. Those are two very different men right there. Yeah, Nina's like, I almost got rid of the holder of my purse. Do you know what that would have been like? I would have had to hold my purse. - Okay, we get it. Stop crying now. It's just get a coat rack. - Yeah, and then I liked that when Candie was like, you've done this, and like all your friends, you did Kim, Shirei, da-da-da-da. And Nina just, there's just like no talking any sense into her. - Who said in the words of Destiny's child, 'cause we were just saying Destiny's child, but someone was like, in the words of Destiny's child, you ain't ever gonna get it, careful. I mean, that's not Destiny's child, that's in vogue. But who said that? Damn it, I don't write enough notes. Like, I take notes, but then I don't understand them. - I was so bad, I didn't take notes 'cause I was eating sushi at the time. (laughs) - Well, I was chopping vegetables, so there's little bits of carrot all over this, but I learned very quickly, you cannot chop carrots while you're watching the Atlanta reunion, because the faces are the best thing. (laughs) And you can't see them with your child. - You have to, exactly, you have to look at all the reactions, the rolling, the eye rolling, et cetera. - Yeah, Nina's eye rolls are the best. And Claudia's shooting herself in the head, and Candy just in general looking like, she kinda does, and I'm not saying she looks fat, because I don't think she's fat, but she does kinda have that fat Albert face, kind of like her eyes bug out a little bit. (laughs) - I love you, Candy Girl, never change. - Yeah, so let's see, then it moved on to jail, I guess. - Oh yeah. - And Phaedra, look, one of our favorite listeners, Curtis. - Hi, Curtis, tweeted at us. Hey, I totally disagree about the kids. Like she should let him see his kids. No, I totally disagree. If you care so much about your kids, you wouldn't be committing felonies, and it's not your first time, either, fucker. And if you wanted to see your kids, you wouldn't be out of strip clubs every night, instead of being with your kids at home, before you went to prison, you did care, and not you Curtis, but Apollo, fuck that. No, you don't deserve that right. And I wouldn't be taking my kids to prison to see you either. - Yeah, I mean, I actually really don't have a strong opinion on this situation, I think it's Phaedra's call. And I felt horrified by the first time I went to the McDonald's playground and saw that big purple fucking thing, and that little burglar who I thought was gonna kill me. You really want me to go to a prison when I'm that young? No. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't know, I haven't been in that position, so I really, that's one of those things where I feel like I can't have a really good opinion. I do though agree with you. Ultimately, Apollo did things, and this is the price you have to pay. I mean, the price you pay is that you are gonna be separated from your family and there's no guarantee that you'll see your family, you hope you will, but you don't care about what you're kidding. - When you were doing that, and you didn't care about the other people's kids who you were fucking robbing and swindling out of like hundreds of thousands of dollars. Go fuck yourself, dude. Like you don't get rights now, you gave up your rights. It's not like you just jay walked and got thrown in prison, then that's different, you know? But what you did, no, no girl, back. - And then I love that Candy kind of rolling her eyes. Because Phaedra's like, "Well, I don't know if they have a proper changing table." That's the same reason I won't go to the cracker barrel. I need a changing table in the manager or whatever. - And Candy's rolling her eyes and she's like, "Listen, I've been to that prison, like hundreds of times." You know, it's fine, you can visit. - There's also, by the way, there's nothing that moms do, and maybe we can talk about this when we go onto the "For Crying Out That" podcast on Thursday, since I know very little about mothering. But aren't there like mats you can buy that you can basically put down on the ground and change your kid on the mat? Like there are ways around, but Phaedra basically Phaedra wants any excuse. She's like, "Well, you see, you know, at that time of the year, it's very popular for geese to migrate overhead, and what happens if one poops on my child? Then what do I do? I just can't take him to the prison while we wait outside." - Yeah, one time I turned on the air conditioner and ate and almost got pneumonia. I'm certainly not taking him to Kentucky. (laughing) I don't want to go to Kentucky and then be considered a stereotype because of their fried chicken chains. It's like, "Come on, you can do it if you wanted to." And she said earlier that, you know, he forfeited that right. She said in some way in one of her confessionals earlier, she said something along those lines, like, "I don't have to take him." You know, and the only reason she's backtracking now is because of Twitter, the great, you know, the great apology machine that is Twitter that turns everybody into an apology machine because anything you say on Twitter is used against you later in a court of public opinion and you gotta make some shit up to get out of it. And that's the only thing she's doing right now. She's trying to placate mothers so they'll stop tweeting her that she's a bad mother, you know? - Yeah, I actually would be interested to hear from the four crying out loud ladies or any of their listeners. I would be interested in what they think, what they think would be the prudent thing to do with little kids going to a jail. 'Cause I honestly have no idea. - I just think your kids don't need to be exposed to that. I mean, honestly, you do whatever you want with your kids. I'm just saying, if it was my kids and they were babies and my husband did that to me, no, bye. - Yeah. - One of my favorite things was when Kenya, of course, has something to say about how she's a bad mother or whatever. And Andy's like, well, how, you know, how are you not being a hypocrite when you say she's tearing you down in public, but then you turn around and do that to her. And she's like, well, it's, you know, when she's going through this rough time, you're going at her. And Kenya's like, well, it's not about Faedra. You know, it's about the children. Like she's an op, you fucking lying hypocrite. She's the worst. - I know. I mean, what happened to the, what happened to like all the good will that those two brokered? I mean, of course, it's like leave it to Andy Cohen to just destroy everyone. Like they get to a good place at the end of the season. Now they're, once again, fighting. And Kenya's saying these things about Faedra. I mean, Kenya, but Kenya's hilarious though, because when she gets on those like righteous things, it makes me laugh. Like if Nina were to get on the righteous, say something righteous, I'm like, shut the fuck up. But with Kenya, when she gets righteous, I laugh because I don't, you know, she obviously doesn't believe what she's saying. She just wants to fuck with someone. And she hides behind a beauty pageant, you know, like, oh, the children kind of thing. And that's what I think is so hilarious about her. - Yeah. I mean, I enjoy her on the show, but she's a lying sack of shit too. - Yeah. - But I think the biggest difference for me between her and Nini is that Nini doesn't even want to be there anymore. She's just like showing up to collect her check and, you know, keep the job that leads to other jobs. You know, she's keeping her bread and butter job. She hates everybody. Nothing she does is real. No fight she has is real. They're not even based in reality. They're like brandy fights that she just make stuff up to, you know, make people. Like the time she walks away and it's like, yeah. I don't know, it's stupid. - It's like the time that she started a feud that lasted like a year or two years with Kim Zolciak when she just like walked onto a tour bus and then decided that she was mad with Kim and was like, you know, accusing Kim of owning a slave and sweetie and they just started screaming and just like it came out of nowhere. And it was just like, you're doing this because you want to have fight and you want to have a feud. And now we have to watch you be, you guys be angry at each other for two seasons over something, some bullshit. - Yeah, yeah, Nina's full of cramp. Me no likey. I love the speaking of Twitter and Phaedra when Andy's like Phaedra, you know, birth all of you from, you know, Danica Falls wants to know why you're such a bad mother and dissing your husband on national television when his children can see it. And she's like, you listen here, lady from Twitter. (laughing) She can raise your children how I want, how you want and I'll raise my, how I want, how I want. How about that? - Yeah. - But you go Phaedra. - Yeah. - Yeah, Phaedra. - Let's see, then Porsha comes out for possibly one of the most confusing segments in history. Poor, Porsha doesn't even know what she's talking about. - Never. - Like, she cannot. She cannot keep her lies straight. She comes out with a new word. This time it was intellectual lies or something. I was like, wow, that was a big one, girl. - Yeah. - But she's so stupid. She doesn't even know what she's talking about, you know? She's like, and then, you know, we were friends, but then, you know, she went on a talk show and she was mean about Kenya. - I'm like, what, or who was she mean about? They were talking about Kenya, right? - I think she was talking, I think that Porsha's issue was that-- - Oh, with Claudia. She was being, I've seen her, I've seen Claudia and she's, you know, she says a lot of bad things about Kenya. I was like, what? And then all this stuff about her dating married men and they're like, yeah, but you told me you married, you were with a married man. And she's like-- - Slander, slander, no kidding slanders. - If you're gonna slander me, that's slanderous, that's slanderous. - And then Claudia's like, well, then fine, sue me for slander. She's like, what's sue mean? - Who's sue? - Who's sue? (laughing) - So let's see, she's stupid, married man, but you said my, oh, I love the whole discussion when Cynthia's like, well, I don't appreciate you, 'cause Cynthia's like coming into this, Cynthia still has nothing, like she's really tried hard this season to be a bitch, but she still has nothing for the reunion, except, wow, Cynthia, your husband's still an asshole using your money with that, your permission, but she has nothing, so she's trying to get in on other people's things which is so funny with her big ass wig, and they're like, well, what, she's like, well, I didn't like, also what you said about my husband cheating on me, Porsche, and Andy's like, well, didn't you do the same thing with Phaedra, when you were talking about chocolate, and she's like, oh, well, that's not the same thing. God, I'm getting myself some extra, Porsche said, I didn't do that, I did that in private, that's not the same, it's like, you're on TV. - Oh yeah, that was, she's like, I said it in private, and it was not for anyone else to hear. It's like, you were on TV with four million watchers. She's like, oh yeah, where are they, I don't see them. How do people hide back there? I was always bad at hiding, see, they're always family. - She's like, no, we're not on TV right now, because my TV's only 48 inches, and this room is much bigger. - God bless her heart. - I also love, on our Facebook page, Joel Renieri, says also, when was Claudia a journalist? Please explain when that happened. I love that when Claudia's like, well, as a former journalist, as a former journalist, that's really like Claudia, you're on like, dish nation. - No kidding, you used the right ads for Craigslist, like, you know, your ads for the thrifty nickel don't count. Okay, back down Claudia. - Yeah, appearing on Deal or No Deal does not count as journalism, just because you have reported what number was in your suitcase. - Yeah, she held a suitcase on television, so she's now a flight attendant. - She's like, she's like, just 'cause he said, back to you how he does not make your journalists. - Yeah, or, no, nevermind. Let's see, so, but yeah, you know, Cynthia's also a huge hypocrite, talking about other people's bullshit when she's doing the exact same thing, and she's like, I didn't talk about her marriage, I just said it's what Peter heard from her husband, that's all I said, it was just a, yep, how's that different? - She's the most reliable sources on this show. Peter and Apollo, yeah. - I'm surprised Peter even had time to take the call from Apollo. He's probably got lots of bills to put into the Wells Fargo counting machine. - He's probably a coin star with your piggy bank. - He's probably too busy making the perfect blend of Maxwell House and Taser's Choice for Peter's Brewery, or Peter's Brew. - What kind of coffee do you want to date, babe? (laughs) - This frappuccino is 30% sweet and low. (both laugh) Anybody's allowed to come in here and get Peter's brew, but they have to use their wife's credit card, or I don't serve them. (laughs) - So let's see, what else happened on the ass? Go to charity events, oh, and then they were like, "Well, you got to charity events with your butt out." I mean, I don't even know why I'm writing all this shit down, like who cares? But I love how they started talking about the Bible. I always live in a housewife, so they're so fucking awful to each other and everybody, really. And then they start spouting off on the Bibles, especially Phaedra, that whole thing where they're showing what a hypocrite Phaedra is, with her religion, and then calling people a whore. And she's like, "There's plenty of whores in the Bible, "Mary Magdalene." And they were redeemed, like a lord. - She's like, "I didn't call you a whore "because of that one instance, "because you do whoreish things all the time." - Yeah. - She's a bit more. - She's a bit more. - That whole thing where she... - This time of year is busy. Family obligations, holiday parties, travel, relaxation might fall to the bottom of your priority list. - You guys, you need to take time to relax and you need to be somewhere where there's soft white sand healing crystal blue water, cloudless skies. We know where that place is. - Aruba, shake off any cold weather blues and enjoy the islands invigorating sunshine. 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Terms apply, see door dash dot com slash max for details. - We're a Porsche with saying, well, you know, I'm very lucky because Kenya brought up Porsche's grandfather and Porsche is like, don't you come after my family? - Could you imagine if Kenya did that? She was like, well, her grandfather, you know, saved a lot of black people. What a dick. I'm like, Porsche is so stupid. - Well, Porsche is supposed to bring up her grandfather and then dis him, stupid. - Well, I mean, Kenya, I think where Kenya was going with that was kind of a, I think it was kind of a legitimate point, which is to say like, here's this grandfather who marched for us who was such a like, who stood for such lofty things. And now this is his like granddaughter. Is this one right here? - Well, she specifically said, oh, and then she's violent. And you know, he was preaching. - Oh, yeah, that was so sure. Like what he had in mind was, you know, house wise reunions. I mean, he had bigger fish to fry back then, okay? I'm sure anybody would have smacked your ass. Her grandfather would have smacked your ass with that bull horn bitch. - Shut up. - Yeah, exactly. Well, it's funny, the fact that, you know, here we are in the midst of these Baltimore riots that we talked about in the bonus episode. And for Kenya to almost like imply that Porsche, to say Porsche being violent. I mean, you know, when you're talking about like, real violence out there. I mean, first it's like- - Yeah, that's what I'm saying. She's using like real amazing, beautiful work that somebody did and using it against someone is a weapon on a housewife. So like, fuck up Kenya. - No, yeah. I love how Kenya can make me both stand up for her and tear her down all with the same thing. - She's the worst. Like, I don't, I like that she's on the show, but she's like, she just seems fucking awful. - She's the worst, but I love her on the show. I love her on the show. And I'll take her over Nini Leaks any day of these, at this point. - But it is hard to like any, I mean, any housewife, really, but especially in these, these reunions, they just get so ugly. 'Cause it's like one second you're on Portia's side because that was not cool of Kenya. But then Portia's like, yeah, but you know, I was raised with the family. And so I understand what love is, and Kenya wasn't. 'Cause her mom's never spoken to her, so she probably just doesn't know how to act or whatever she was saying. I was like, really? Now you're gonna use someone's like abandonment against them. Oh my God, girl. - Yeah, the only one who doesn't really do it is Candy. I mean, Candy is really the only one who doesn't sneak in a nasty comment like that, you know, 'cause the rest of them all do it. They all do it. Candy just defends herself. The only time Candy ever gets like sort of said something, like not nice is when she's defending herself. - Well, if she'd take that into her marriage, she might do a good job. She might have like a happy marriage. 'Cause that girl needs to learn how to defend herself in marriage and motherhood. Mother's, I mean, daughterhood, I guess I should say. - Yeah, she do. - She do. - So that's pretty much it about Atlanta, right? - Yeah, I think so. That was, you know, all notes aside, it's always hard for me to joke about Atlanta because I actually just laugh the whole time. So it's like joking about a sitcom. Like who's gonna do that? - I love it. - Exactly, and this reunion was sort of hard to like joke about too much. 'Cause it wasn't like the Beverly Hills one where you have one person, Kim Richards, who was saying crazy, crazy shit and making these crazies denials and getting mad at everyone. And so you wanna just, we could talk, we talked about that for an hour because we get so fired up. But this one's more like she said something stupid than she said something stupid. And by the way, Dr. Phil's interview with Kim is going to be airing in LA in about an hour and a half and we're going to cover that on Thursday's episode, I imagine. - Oh, yes. - But already Michael Cook, one of our listeners, he posted a link, something that's come out, I guess it's already airing probably on the East Coast. And I guess one thing that's already come out, just as a little diversion from what we're talking about, is that Kim said at first, I've been sober for three and a half years, I haven't taken anything. But later on in the program, when Dr. Phil questioned if she was actually sober for three and a half years, she says, "This is her quote." No, that's not true, that I had not had a drink in three and a half years. I did have a drink a couple of other times over the last few months and it was wine and I was ashamed to say anything at the reunion embarrassed. Can you imagine this woman attacking these other ladies for daring to suggest she's falling off the wagon? She's attacking them when she has lately done so. - Yeah, I mean, at this point we've basically seen who she is. I mean, at this point, she's just like, "Aww, poor Kim." I mean, I kind of feel bad for at this point because she's just like, there is no escape. She finally checked into rehab. Like, she is not escaping this and her kids apparently showed up for some intervention and then she runs down the hall screaming and crying at Dr. Phil and refusing to come back and then she's arguing with the kids and her daughter's like, "Yeah, but you're still smoking pot "and you're still taking pills like Kim, honey." - She needs to-- - That's not the rightie. - She's in rehab now and she needs to get on to a program. She needs to like, when she gets out of rehab, she can't just be like, "Okay, done." Like, she needs to be on a program and she needs to also, like, she needs to start apologizing to people. - Oh, we'll see if that ever happens. - It won't, and I guess she's probably in rehab 'cause her thing is like, "I'm going to rehab," but she doesn't even believe she needs rehab. She's honestly just going to get away from TMZ at this point. - Yeah, I think actually there was an article that someone posted about how like, yeah, that she doesn't, she's doing it just to do it and that her, I think her son said that his mom needs help and that she needs to stop being friends with Brandy because it's toxic. So even her son is saying to stop being friends with Brandy, that's bad. - Yeah, that's, that's pretty bad. - Yeah. - I don't know, I don't know. Okay, turn out where do you want to go. - Do you want to go to-- - Let's go to, do you want to go to blood, sweat, and heels? - I would like to, I would like to, I actually would like to go to blood, sweat. I mean, it's hard, Bellman was really good this week, but I kind of want to go to blood, sweat, and heels for a little bit 'cause there's not that much to talk about, but there was stuff. First of all, the scene when Daisy told her assistant and interns that she had cancer, I got for clumped Ronnie. - I cried, I straight up cried. - I was like, I didn't have tears going down my cheeks, but I definitely, my chin was quivering and all that. Like it was, I was emotional. - Yeah, straight up cried. That was, that was some pretty sad stuff. - That was, 'cause you know, they were like, you know, 'cause Daisy's so sweet. And that she has to go through, this is terrible. And to see her tell these like kids who really look up to her, it was really, and they were all the kids were crying and they were hugging her. I was like, that was really sad. - Yeah, that was sad. So let's move away from cancer. - Wait, although I will say, by the way, speaking of sad things, I don't know if you saw this, but you know, the past few weeks we've been like, see this is real, this is real, this is sad. So when Amber is like talking about her fake cancer, like shut the fuck out, Amber, from New Jersey. Well, the sad news is that Amber's cancer has come back. - Did you read about that? - Yeah, I don't want to talk about Amber's fucking cancer. She's probably excited that she has enough. That girl's like, that girl's disgusting to me. I don't know. - Yeah, but you know, you still can't-- - Nobody deserves cancer. But I still hate that girl. - Give me an opt-in case anyone didn't hear it, but Amber's cancer is back. So now we can't even do a compare and contrast between Daisy and Amber, because now they both have a cancer. - Yeah, no one deserves cancer, but there was a play written about C.S. Lewis, I guess, whose wife died of cancer. Let me see what this is, play about Shadowlands. And his wife dies of cancer, and there's like one of C.S. Lewis's friends who always hated the wife, like they always hated each other. And she dies and they're at the, you know, by the grave side or whatever. And all the friends are like, oh, she was a lovely woman, blah, blah, blah. And this guy's like, no, she wasn't. He makes some, he makes some snide comment. And they said, Jesus, have some respect. She just died. And he said, death does not improve the character. - Wow. - And I sometimes feel like that. I'm like, you know, Amber, I'm sorry you have cancer. Nobody deserves that. You're still an author, human being, staff, my TV, and keep your husband with you, okay? Go to the hospital and stay off my TV. - Yeah. - So beyond cancer, because I can't-- - Beyond cancer. - Today is all race and cancer. - Yeah, and so this, so well, so then speaking of race. So Geneva, a civil rights pioneer, Geneva, she is continuing her crusade against the cop that arrested her. Because as you may remember, she refused to pay the $21 off the, you know, 'cause she thought she should be charged $15. So she met with her lawyer and her publicist and they came up with like talking points for her. And so now she actually has a fact sheet on what happens. - Oh, God. Well, the interesting thing too about that scene, first of all, Janine, I love how they're intercutting it with Melissa at an event going, well, listen, I know Geneva probably spouted off to those cops and you cannot be mouthing off to cops. And then it cuts to Geneva going, I have no doubt in my mind that this was racism and I will do what I need to do. And this is, that's it. It's a color of my skin and that's it. And then they're cutting back to Melissa like laughing and high-fiving somebody. - Yeah. - So she's, yeah, at lunch with these lawyers. - And you have Daisy, by the way, Daisy was furious, right? Because she was like, I hate this because this makes it seem like all black people. Like she's like, I hate when Daisy said, I hate when black people play the race card in a situation that was not like a race situation. It was like, you just didn't pay your taxi fare, you know? - It hurts the cause, you know? And she's like, she's telling the lawyers, Janine, about this is obviously, the lawyers are like, well, you know, this is race and blah, blah, blah. And the female lawyer goes, we're going to need you to put together a fact sheet to get all the facts because a lot of people are just going to say, why didn't she pay him? Why did she leave the cab? And she's basically saying like, your store is full of shit, so write down, make, you know, organize why this case is worthy. It was like the nicest, lawyery way of saying like, we're going to have to explain how this isn't bullshit. So you do it for us and then we'll charge you by the hour. Like, can you come up with that? - Yeah, yeah, exactly. - But it's, yeah, this is all very interesting. This whole Geneva and making this a racing and the other girls not letting her get away with it. - I know. - I'm really loving it. - There was the event at the top of the episode because there was some event because-- - Oh, some other fashion event. - Yeah, there was another fashion thing where, 'cause Micah and Demetra wound up actually like having a friendly exchange. - Well, this is late. This is like kind of at the end of the episode. - No, I know, but there was one in the beginning, in the beginning where the first day she was talking, and she's like, no, I'm not drinking today. - Yeah, yeah, and Demetra's like, whoa. And then at the end, like Demetra stepped on her foot by accident, they like laughed. And then it was like, oh, like signs of like friendship. - Yeah, those girls haven't really given each other a chance. - I know, well, of course they do, and then it goes to shit next week. - Yeah. - It's just still on this part because I just love this Geneva storyline. I'm loving it because Geneva is so delusional. But I love when she says, no, I didn't do anything. You know, there's some facts out there that are just wrong. I did not steal. What do you call jumping out of a cab and not paying? She's like, well, I just wanted him to wait, while I called the police. No, he's not gonna wait one, you called the police, you fucking moron, that stealing period. And she's like, I got a lawyer on speed dial. Really, why did you have a lawyer on speed dial? Why? - Could you imagine this woman calls 911 because she's been overcharged by the taxi driver? I mean, it's just, here we are in the middle of like a civil rights crisis in Baltimore, and this woman is calling 911 because of. - And then you call 911 and you're the one who gets arrested? - Yeah, why are they gonna arrest the clerk at the 7-Eleven and not the guy who stole the Snickers bar? You fucking moron, who are they gonna arrest? And why do you have a lawyer on speed dial just in case your allowance doesn't come through in your Wells Fargo's? Get out of here, who are you gonna sue? You don't do anything stupid, stupid Geneva. - And I loved also Arzo was trying to, I think it was actually at that fashion event or something. Arzo was immediately trying to like do like damage control over the way she reacted the night before. She's like, hey, so like some of the girls and I, we're just having a laugh about it because you know, it's like, that's totally the way we would have reacted to the cab. - And Shanty totally like got mad at me. So I just want you to be prepared for that. Next thing is to be to Shanty. (laughing) - Arzo, just, yeah, Arzo, just move on. Although I actually-- - I think God they don't 'cause that turned into a fun lunch. - Yeah, I agree. Arzo is a crazy bitch too, but I like her. - Yeah, you have to be to be on these shows. They're not gonna put some normal person on there. I like when they were at that event and Daisy shows up and Melissa's like, you wanna drink and she's like, no, I'm not drinking right now, she's like, Melissa's like, oh, that's right. Oh, come on, now stop. - Melissa's like, are you not drinking 'cause I used to be a video model? I hate when people bring that up. - That waiter looked at me like he knows me. Oh, it's so hard getting a free glass of wine in the city without people getting hard dicks. - That part when Melissa went to her financial planner, oh my God. - She's like, it's really hard being me when everybody knows me, you know? It's like having a real job when everybody knows, first of all, no they don't, first of all, they're looking at your eyebrows because your eyebrows are frowning, okay? That's why they're looking at you. You're squaring off your eyebrows and it's weird, stop it. And then she's like, well, you know, some people would just stay in the music industry forever, but I was like, no, not me. Really, how do you think you're gonna be a video model forever, babe? You hit 25, okay? That's like hitting 2015 for a pinto, okay? It's time to put it away. - Exactly, exactly. And you know, like, Showy talks about how she has like that. What was it, like that? Perfect S shape or the perfect S or whatever? Well, guess what? If you don't wanna be viewed as a video, Vixen, stop like doing so many squats. And like, you know, it's like you are maintaining the video Vixen body, which by the way, you're allowed to do that. Like as a woman, if you wanna look a certain way, but if you're trying to like maintain your video Vixen body and then you're mad that people treat you like a video Vixen, like, you know, it's probably gonna happen. It's so hard being hot, it's so hard. Hot people don't get anything. - And I love that the financial planner was like, well, you know, people like me who have your pictures. She's like, which one? - Oh, good. - You really made the hear that your financial planner basically jerks off to you. And he got all awkward. Why are you bringing that up? This guy, I don't think that's very reputable. - And then she has another bullshit scene with Frederick. I mean, they are trying to promote Million Dollar List in New York. - Stop trying and make Frederick happen. - Please. - I don't even remember there's me. I don't think I even paid attention. You just like, listen, what you have to do is you just have to work. - And then you'll have to, when you sell something, you have to do like a dinosaur squeal and you put your hands like this and then you kick. I'm like, that's the karate kid. Okay, I know you're from a different country, but you know, the karate kid did it before Jurassic Park came out. - Yeah, it also makes no sense. - Ralph Machio could kick a velociraptor's ass. - That's not gonna sell a apartment. - Yeah, and he's like, yeah. And then, you know how much if we sell this, how much is your half of the commission? And she's like, um, math is hard. Get out of here, Melissa, please. Just stop. She's too much just here. - She's really annoying. - You need to just be beautiful and like ex-famous and just be graceful and let people come up to you and be like, didn't you used to be? That's what you do, okay? - Yeah. - She's like Sally Field in the mall. - Right, yes she is. She's really, she's thirsty. She's real thirsty. - Did Micah do anything super interesting this episode aside from like, I did like when she, I like when she talks to her Chinchilla. She's like, she's like, Rocky, why are you frowning? - I mean, Micah's hilarious in every episode. - Well, I love when like the fact she. - Yeah, exactly. When she was singing the fact she, I nearly fell off the couch. - And then she sings something about Pino Grigio right after telling somebody she doesn't drink wine. It's like, I don't know. - I was like, that's like Kim Richards' defense right there. But let's see, then we go to racism because they start, Shanti is talking to her brother. She's like, I always wanted to be an American. I always did the American accent. You know, I always, in my first lemonade stand, I refuse to pay women as much as men. It was amazing. - Why doesn't everybody live in America? And then she said, you know, I'm not racist. It's not about her being from Afghanistan. - Google Afghan Hound, which we actually did last weekend, you know, got a point. - She does have a point, she does have one. I think as Micah was the one who's like, well, you know, they know Afghans are like long and tall and sexy with long hair. So, you know, it was funny. All the women are kind of like, yeah, Shanti sort of has a point. - Yeah. - Oh, and they also love, oh, go ahead. - No, I was gonna say, just to, I'm stepping ahead a little bit, but at that luncheon, they all had like a boozy brunch 'cause someone was like, you know what we need? We need a boozy brunch just to fix everything. And by the way, boozy brunches is exactly how you ruin everything even more. But I love when at one point, Shanti's like, oh, I'm gonna go to the bathroom. And then ours goes, okay, and then when you get back, maybe you can discuss why you called me on Afghan Hound. - Yeah, let's discuss your racism after you pee here with it. - Yeah, maybe you would like to tell everyone why you called me in Afghan Hound. They were so passive aggressive. I just like let out a huge good fall. - I love, absolutely love that this woman is such a cooke that she sees no irony in the fact that she's making such a huge racist deal out of this little obviously non-racist thing. And taking it seriously, when she refuses to even listen to the racism argument from-- - Yeah, Geneva. - You know, Geneva. I mean, I think they're both full of shit. They've got that in common, but she's really a hypocrite. - Yeah, absolutely. - I don't like that. I know, but it's like funny. I just loved her very corporate way of putting someone on the spot, you know, in that like, well, when you get back, maybe you would like to discuss with the group the certain things you've been saying about me about how I'm an Afghan Hound, thanks. - And you're really gonna bring that up to a table of black women and get them on the racism side. No, it's not gonna work, honey. And they laughed in her face basically. And then she's like, they said, oh, well, you know, someone called me a British bulldog, I wouldn't get mad. And she goes, no, it's not that. It's if I called you a Jamaican, you know-- - Mangus. - Mangus or whatever. I was like, okay, that's, you know, there you go. That would be a little bit more racist probably. - Right, and the other women, this conversation is so annoying to the other women that it actually causes the Mitria and might get to make up. - Yup, it's so bad to make-- - Typical women bonding and gay men, I have to say. - Yeah. - You don't like the same thing, bitch about it together, it fixes everything every single time. There's a reason Matt used to always forgive us. We would always be able to bitch about these people together. - Yeah, exactly. - Oh. - Bitching about people bonds, bitch. - It brings us all together. - So let's see, that wasn't really jumping ahead that much, Ben. Geneva tried to bring it up when she was like, she tried to bring it up with them, right? Where she was like, well, certain people, I know that certain people don't agree with my lawsuit, and that's why I've made a fact sheet, and then she passes the fact sheet out to everybody. - Oh, lord. - It's stupid. - So we show the fact sheet for this. - I love the laughing at it. - Yeah. No, we should have a fact sheet for this podcast, I think. Fact, it started five hours ago. Fact. - All we talk about is racism now, and cancer. Fact. Fact, and dogs, and Afghan hounds. - Oh, god. - Why did she? Fucking Geneva won't stop. I just keep writing down Geneva quotes. You call the, I'm the victim, but who do they, you know, what does she say? She's like, I'm the victim, but who do they arrest? The brown girl. The brown girl holding the money that she didn't give the cab driver, okay? - Come on. - And watch Geneva later on this season say, listen, I am not victimizing myself. You know she's gonna say that at some point, when she literally said I am the victim. - Yeah, that's nice, good. - You know she's gonna cut it out. - Oh, la, la, la, Frederick, cancer, cancer, cancer, I have cancer. - Cancer, cancer, cancer. - I did love when the girls are arguing, I'm saying, I love this a lot, I don't know why. The girls are arguing at the table, and it cuts to Daisy going, "I have stage three cancer, and you're arguing?" Okay, let's not be using cancer in arguments. - Yeah. - There's not too much. - Come on, guys. I have cancer. Well, then we just can't have a show then. What are we gonna do, like put everything on the side, because you have cancer? No, girl, girl, girl, you're doing, girl, you shouldn't even be on this show. You're getting radiation every single day now. You should just, why are you even at brunch? You're ridiculous. - Yeah, I love that girl, 'cause she's a workaholic, good for her. And she's got bills too, oh my God, those bills. Can I just say that that's fucking, I'm glad that we're figuring something out that people at least have insurance now, but part of the problem isn't even having insurance, it's that it costs you $100,000 to go to the hospital. What the hell? - Yeah, yeah, it's-- - I think we need to fix the system before we fix the insurance system. Come on, guys, let's all bond together and actually try and make laws that the hospitals can't charge you like that. That's bullshit. You go to the emergency room and you get a bill for $10,000. Nope, I'll fix it at home with some popsicle sticks and some paper towels. - Exactly, exactly. I mean, that's why people don't are afraid to go. Yeah, everything's fucked with the healthcare. So my friend, I am very much in favor of Obamacare for the reasons that Daisy mentioned, if you're a freelancer or people like us or whatever, you have to pay for your own healthcare, like it sucks. So I am pro Obamacare, but that being said-- - Well, you still pay for your own healthcare with Obamacare. - But it's cheaper. It's more affordable to do so. But my friend though, she's on Obamacare and she hurt her foot and she can't even get a doctor's appointment for another three months. I mean, isn't that crazy? - Well, that's what it's gonna be. I mean, I don't think that's Obamacare's fault, but like, I'm just saying the healthcare system is really just-- - Well, structured insurance. That's kind of the problem with when you have an insurance that's a, what's it called where it's not like Blue Cross Blue Shield, but where it's more like-- - What is it called, Finn? - I don't know. - It's a kind of insurance, but it's a certain kind where you can only go to certain doctors or whatever. - HMO. - HMO, yeah. It's that. So, you know, good luck. Good luck to us all. - I know. It's all messed up. - This is not gonna be fun. - I have Kaiser, I have Kaiser Permanente. I'm behind the idea of it. I'm just not behind handing, you know, more power to insurance companies that were already gouging us in the first place. So now we've got to deal with that. And now we've got to deal with going to random doctors that we don't necessarily want to go to and not being able to go wherever you need to go. And then still being charged hundreds of thousand dollars. I mean, it's didn't really, it was a good start, but the, you know, let's keep working on that, guys. - I think we should keep-- - Come back to that one. - That's what I say. I say, you know, at the very least, you know, as I think if healthcare can be more affordable for people or insurance can be, that's the first step. And of course, there are improvements to be made. - 'Cause it's sad when you've got someone like me. Now, of course, I'm speaking from a poor, very lightly educated version of this Obamacare for anybody who's about to start talking out facts and figures, go for it. - Fact sheet, new facts sheet? - Yeah, give me a fact sheet girl, 'cause I'm down to listen to whatever. I'm just saying we all need to work on that a little bit more, 'cause it's really sad when I'm watching TV and see a woman with cancer in bed with all these bills surrounding her costing, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars. And my response is, girl, wait until you're healed and then declare bankruptcy, they can't do shit. I mean, that's a sad response, but that's the way we roll, because that's the only option people like us have. And it's still the only option we have because they're not gonna pay for everything. You don't just go to the hospital and it's all paid for because you're paying for insurance. It's not, it doesn't work like that. - I know, well, some people are all, some people that I am very close to are like, well, I hate it, Obamacare is socialism, it's socialism. No, no, no, no, no, we're paying, no, no, no. I'm like, well, what about, tell me about your public schools then, okay? Like, I don't have any kids, and guess what? I'm paying for public schools, and I'm not complaining about it. - No shit, and if we really had socialism, we wouldn't be paying a monthly bill to a private company, we would be getting free healthcare. So yeah, whatever, that's not a good thing. - So yeah, so stop complaining about socialism when your kids are going to public school. - Right, sake, you see what this show is done to us. Now we're talking about fucking Obamacare. - Oh, Obamacare's so last year. - Jesus, us, us. I actually don't have too much more to say about blood, sweat, and heels. - Let me go here, Demetria made up with what's her bones because they hated the same girl. We already said that. - Oh, Geneva, Geneva said. Now, I don't wanna, she's like, some people have a problem with my situation, and then Melissa's like, well, what was it, or whatever? Someone asked her a question, she's like, well, my lawyers have asked me not to talk about it. Really, the lawyers that you just talked about it with on TV, shut up Geneva, shut up Geneva. - Well, I like how Melissa, Melissa was talking about how she'd been arrested before, and then James was like, well, did you deserve to be arrested? And Melissa's like, yeah, probably. And then James was like, well, I hope we make a very important distinction, but the fact that I did not deserve to be arrested, I'm like, you probably did not deserve to be arrested over that situation, but you also probably did not need to involve the cops either. - And it's also amazing because we know that she gets arrested again for attacking the girl that got arrested for a good reason. So it all comes full circle in the end. - Oh, I hope that's on, I wonder if that was on the show, like if the cameras were there for that. - Oh, God, please, well, why else would they be hanging out together, those women? - Yeah, why else, yeah, when it's not shooting time, I like that they're being more honest about it now. - I'm like, like petty floor and a wetter buns in Melbourne. They're like, well, we're the new girls, you know? It's hard to bond, it's like we're the new cast members. - Yeah. - It wasn't your race, it was your face. Someone said that, that was funny. - Well, to be fair, the only reason why Geneva really got arrested was like, oh, it's Wesley Snipes. Isn't this supposed to be in jail? Didn't he evade some taxes, better arrest him? - Yeah, she was actually in jail for tax evasion. - Yeah. - She just didn't know that. She didn't read why they booked her. - Yeah, they were like, wait a second. He's a vampire, we better arrest him. - Fact, Geneva was released from jail because she agreed not to make another Blade movie. - Yeah. - Who was that movie, he was in? - Blade, yeah, he played. Fact, Geneva was arrested because people thought that she was trying to destroy the city in the future, but thankfully Sylvester Silen and Sandra Bullock were there to save the day. Fact, vampires can't gain weight. Fact, I was arrested because they thought I was a con artist on Venice Beach, trying to con people with my basketball skills. - Oh, Lord, girl. - Fact, do you? - I was arrested because they thought I was with two other drag queens on a road trip. Fact, Patrick Swayze's ghost came to me in jail and warned me not to sit on the seat. Fact, I was arrested because the officers thought I was trying to break into the White House to save the president. (laughing) - That is a movie. - So let's move on to mail Ben. - I'm like, what other Wesley Snacks movies are there? I'm trying to think real hard. - I was arrested because I was dating a white girl. - Oh, it's all jungle fever. - I'm out of Wesley Snacks movies, can you tell? I'm like, okay, let's move on. I don't want to type IMDB up into my computer right now, okay? - Yeah. - So let's talk about Real Housewives of Mail, Ben, which is so... - Such a funny episode. - Oh my God. - Our friend, David Clark, who he's been a guest on the banter blender and he is a co-host of Lion's Lair with our friend, Angie Thomas. - I didn't know that. I thought it was just Angie and Grant. - No, I think that David's on that one also. But anyway, David is super funny and he'd never seen Real Housewives of Melbourne. So David came over on Friday night 'cause we're gonna watch Bruce Jenner together. And while we were waiting for Bruce Jenner to start, I was like, well, I haven't watched Melbourne yet. Would you care to watch this? And I would like to say he enjoyed it greatly 'cause it was the perfect episode to introduce someone to the Real Housewives of Melbourne. It was like four to five minutes. - Oh my God, well, it started with the fight, right? - Right, continue the fight or were they just talking about it? - No, they were continuing last week's fight 'cause this part of the last week, the fight was Petty Fleur saying to Gina or something along the lines of, you know, a lot of things seem to upset you and Gina was like, well, you have a lot of opinions about me and I think you would be due well to be quiet. Thank you very much. - Yeah, keep your opinions to yourself and shut you off so that stupid can't, or cut your throat. It's like, all right. - Gina, all right, go Gina. - You seem to know a lot about me, not. (laughing) I think we're gonna be best friends, not. - Yeah, so then this part of the fight was Jackie, like, lost her ship for some reason. Well, things seem to calm down, right? - Well, I love that Liddy. I love when Liddy is the voice of reason, but she's too stupid to talk. So she's like, guys, what I think would be best is for the two of you. I mean, you two, you know, like the two people, you know, the two people. And Janet's like, the people involved. (laughing) It's like, yeah, that. - Janet's like everyone who's involved in the conflict. - By if you discuss it. And then, you know, Jackie is still pissed about Gina making psychic comments like this. She doesn't believe on psychic. She's been carrying that around since the beginning and waiting to go off on her ass because what she went off on her today didn't even make any sense. Like it starts with-- - Then things calm down after Liddy didn't, maybe I got the sequence wrong. - Well, Liddy, it calmed down a bit 'cause Liddy has said I'm gonna go to Philippines to meet the family of my housekeeper. And Gina's like-- - We'll be just a kid napper? - Yeah. - And she's like, I'm delivering coffee. And she goes, did you say coffee? 'Cause that's the one thing you can't take there. You'll be arrested, they'll meet them and then they'll go to prison. - Yeah. And so the thing, what, things are, Gina's cracking those jokes, you know, and I'm surprised actually they weren't getting mad at her for cracking those jokes. I thought every time she cracked a joke, I thought the music was gonna change. She's gonna be like, I can't believe Gina or I said that about coffee, you know? - Exactly. - But coffee, I drink it every day, how dare she? - But then when things calm down a little bit, all of a sudden, Petty Fleur's the one who brought it back, right? 'Cause Petty Fleur's like, you know, it's very funny because I say in my book, Switch The Bitch, I say da da da da da, and somehow that causes it. - She literally, this is a stupid Petty Fleur. She goes, okay, you know what I want to talk about? How much my book has helped me? - Like really? - Your own self-help book helped you. You fucking twit. She's like, my own self-help book has helped me because I have enriched my bitch. Nothing bothers me. I'm like, really? Because this whole fight is about what bothers you. - Yeah. - Everything, everything. We're buying it out is how your body-- - No basis, okay. - You're constantly bothered. - Gina has made comments on my race and my color and my accent and gambles like-- - You liar, you liar, that never happened. - Oh. - No, it never happened, it never happened. I'm telling old fiends here telling me he would right or wrong because sometimes I'm a bad girl. - That's right. So Gamble started defending Gina and then they were like, "You're always Gina's mouthpiece." And I think that's when Jackie lost it, right? Because Jackie's like, "You should have heard what Gina said before we went on to a morning show." Gina said that she wants to throw the new girls under the bus. - Yeah. And Gina's like, "I never said that." You know? I said it. I didn't know my microphone was on in the bathroom, right? - Gina's like, "Oh, I think the demons have gotten you possessed." And then Janet's like, "Gina, what an awful thing to say. Stop that right now, Gina!" - Damn it. - It was like every time it's like any time Gina insults someone and it's like, what an awful thing to say. Oh, Gina. - But then she went back. She kept going back and forth. She was like, "No, Jackie. No, Jackie. Don't say that, Jackie. No, Gina. Why Gina? What a horrible thing. - No, Jackie. No. Stop that. - It was rough. You are not the ref. - It was like... - Did you imagine Janet at the Baltimore riots? - No. Don't throw a chair in that window. No. No. Don't officer. Don't throw walks above no. Stop it. - Please don't shoot a black person. Don't throw through the window. All right. Don't. Don't bring this guy in the car, darling. No. Don't do that the best. Bye. - That's just all good. Just stay and watch the baseball game. No. Don't leave the stadium. No. - I have to say, your Janet has evolved into something amazing. I don't know what it is, but I love it. - Darling. - Oh. But then Jackie's like, well, you know what she said about you at the show? She said that she said that you're a lunatic, that your husband's a lunatic, and that she's going to throw you under the bus. Didn't she? And Janet's like, "She did say that. She did." And she's like, "Didn't she?" And she's like, "No, she didn't." And then Janet trying to calm it down goes, "Well, she didn't say your husband wasn't a lunatic, but she did say she was going to throw people under the bus." I'm like, "Well, which is it? Is this literally true or is it not true? Can somebody tell me?" And then Jackie's like, "Let's take a larger sector. I'm not afraid of a larger sector. I mean, I had to take one before I married Silver Chair, and I'll take one now. I'll do it. I'll have him come right over." And she's like, "Oh, you're possessed. You need an exorcism?" And I'm like, "No." - And then Gina. Gina starts doing an impression of Jackie, but this is a retarded person. And she's like, "Oh, I'm good at this. I'm good at this." And I'm like, "Okay, now you're offending mentally disabled people." And then Jackie's like, "A lie detector." And then Janet's like, "Oh, you don't need a lie detector. You've got me." Yeah, the paradigm of virtue over there. Good show is cuckoo. I love it. Somebody's in polygraph. Fucking love it. And then she's like, "Well, it's okay because I have names for Gina too. I call her Ned Kelly because she is one mask, one big mask." And I was like, "Who's Ned Kelly?" God. Because Gina was like, "Well, I just called Eddie the expert." And she's like, "That's all right because I've called you Ned Kelly." And I was like, "What is that, man?" And then Jackie, then Jackie saving it up as she has since everything that's happened since she got mad last year. I mean, this woman did not seem like the brightest bulb on the tree, but she can hold on to pieces of information for a very long time. She's got the angels constantly telling her about them. And she was saying, "Oh, yeah, and she knew about the rumors. Go ahead and tell her that you knew about the rumors before everybody else did." That's some big scandal. Wasn't all this shit already in the gossip pages? That's how Chica knew. That's what she said. She said, "I know what I'll read in the papers." How would Jackie know about the rumors? How would Jackie know that Gina knew about the rumors? Because I guess Jack supposedly at this morning show maybe Gina told her? I don't know. That'd be the Jackie knew about the rumors too. Exactly. But Jackie's not pretending to be best friends with Gamble and then secretly not telling her that everybody's going to call her a horror on TV. I mean, I don't know. After all this fighting, after like 10 minutes of this, Gamble's like, "Well, I don't believe it." Yeah. So I don't believe it. And it was like, "Oh, okay. It's over." Well, if you've seen Gina talk for five minutes, you know that she busts your balls when you're not there because that's what she does, you know? She was making some comment. Probably a joke. Oh, and then it turned into, "Oh, fuck off." And then, you know, I love that it was Gina like, "Oh, fuck off." And she's like, "You, fuck off." And she's like, "Well, you be quiet." She's like, "Give me quiet." Good arguing skills, Jackie. She's actually five. Holding the line for her tequila. But they did get much more of a rise out of Gina this time, which makes me think that Gina did say those comments, but she probably said it as a joke because last year when they were all coming at Gina, she just took out her makeup and powder her nose. This time, she actually got like, "Yeah, she was probably like, "Let's get the new girls, girls." You know? Like, "Let's bond and take down the new girls." Whatever. Who cares? The thing, the most sucky thing about Gina for me this week, which I cannot believe, I'm going to say something sucky about Gina. Oh, Ronnie, help me. I actually read an article about Gina. And I forget why I was Googling her. I'm so pathetic that I just admitted to Googling Gina on my free time. But I did. I Googled her for something. And she's giving this article, this interview to whoever. And it's like Gina, Gina may quit the Real Housewives. And then the article is her saying like, you know, I don't know why I'd be part of a show where I'm being victimized. And I don't like that people are attacking me, especially that Jackie. I don't see any reason to put myself in that position. It's disgusting. It's embarrassing. And I'm not going to. And you know, yeah, you're not being bullied. Please do not start playing the Housewives' bullied card because so far the people who have done that are the bullies. They're all the horrible people. So please don't jump on that team because that kind of turns you into one of them. Mm hmm, right? Thank you. Yeah, Gina, don't fall on that. Don't fall on that trap. It's easy. Don't fall into it. No, if you're such a strong woman, just say, oh, Jackie, you're full of shit. Just be quiet. Go back to, you know, go back to your midget, Johnny Depp, you know, in his penguin role. And leave the rest of us to it. Go back to Silverjack. Get back to Danny DeVito. Yeah, he's almost gone with Carla again, Tommy. So then the fight is over. And then I think we moved to like, then we moved to the Tea House. The Tea House. And it's like, what I thought was funny is Jackie, you know, I mean, sorry, not Jackie. Janet was like, well, I came here to get the tea because my son is starting a tea business. And they go and they like taste her tea. I love that she brought tea. She's like, these are my favorite teas. I like this one because it makes me shit. I like this one because it keeps me up. And I like this one because it does something to my eyes that I can't understand, but I can't see for an hour. And it's the best I've ever looked. It's like, shut up. Why are you bringing tea to the tea expert? Yeah. You're fucking the Chinese diet tea or Chinese diet tea. They grind up some spices. They drink some chimes. Like, well, thank you so much. This has really been a highlight. And it's like, so that's all you did. You've made this entire trip just to go and drink some chimes. She got a male. That's it. Yeah. So, and then Jay. Oh, so then it's Petafluor and Jackie because now Jackie's like, oh, I'll be friends with Petafluor because she hates China. And, you know, enemies of my enemy and my friend. It's like, no, no, she's not. But enjoy thinking that for this next five minutes during the scene. And she's like, well, you know, it's a genius. She's really awful. You know, blah, blah, blah. And Petafluor is like, yes. And what about the gamble? Who let the dogs out? It's like, why is it okay for you to be such a bitch? You know? Oh, good. I guess that wasn't racism. That was like more animalist than racist. Yeah. It was more a cheap shot at the, uh, the Bowell men or whatever they're called. Baja men, the Baja men. Then they're, they're cutting this, this discussion about Jener in with a discussion that, uh, gamble is having with, who was Campbell talking to? Who's L? Lydia. She's talking to Lydia. She's talking to Lydia now about it. Um, which I just loved because Lydia's trying so hard to not be anti-gena. So people on Twitter are nice to her because that's basically why anybody does anything on the show. Or that's at least my theory, as you can probably tell by now. But Lydia's like, well, you know, I don't want to be mean about Gina. It's just that the thing is she's a horrible person. And so that's how it comes out sometimes. And you just got ignored. Like that's okay. You know, you're still being a bitch. You're doing it in a soft voice, but yeah. Exactly. But it was also weird because Lydia was hating Gamble. Lydia was like so mad at Gamble because Gamble had snickered allegedly through Lydia's like, uh, miscarriage story. And then all of a sudden she's like bonding with Gamble, which I guess is good. It's good to show that women can like have. At this point. No, it doesn't show that at all. If anything, it shows the manipulation. Okay. She's just trying to bring her over. All she was doing was trying to turn Gamble against Gina, right? Because she hates Gina. She wasn't doing anything for Gamble. She was just trying to help her. Then later after she's gotten pissed off that she's basically been called a trophy wife by Petafluor indirectly, like Petafluor wasn't even talking to her, she's bonded with Gamble because she lives off of her husband too, which I mean, so what? You're a wife. You're supposed to, you know, if you're a stay at home housewife and you marry a rich dude, you're supposed to marry, you're supposed to like live off of his money. Why else would you be fucking an old, gross, ugly man? Like you earned it. Well, Bob. Well, Bob. I love it. You know, you earned that money, girl. That is your job. Fucking Wolfie. All right. That's all you had to say. But anyway, that's why they bonded. Lydia's still a manipulative little girl. I think, don't worry. My favorite Lydia scene obviously was when she met Joanna's parents and she brought like a little card and some things. She's like, you know, in many ways, Joanna's like my daughter. She's like my daughter. I'm like, yeah. In many ways, she said. She's like, I'm the mother. I'm her mother. I'm the mama's confused. And she's like, I'm her mother. That's why I bought you braces. She told me, you know, family members needed it. And as my daughter, I bought them for her. Yeah. She's mine now. And I pay her to be my daughter. I mean, she's just like a daughter to me because when I need tea, she brings it. Oh, when I need my toilet clean, she cleans it. And she does it out of the goodness of her own heart and also because I pay her to do it. Yeah. She's my daughter because I've always wanted a girl to vacuum my home. And she does that for me. It's very touching, really. And she's always saying, Lydia, thank you so much for all the wonderful things you do for me. And I realize what a good daughter I have. That she thanks me for all the things, even though I'm paying for her. Even though she's employed to say those things to me. It's so nice that she says them anyway. Oh, I like when the little boy comes up. And she's like, oh, a book. Don't do that, darling. It's bad for you. I know because I'm your mother. I'm Mommy Lydia. And he's like, Mommy. Mommy. Lydia, get the hell out of there. What are you talking about? She's so stupid. She's so stupid. She's so tacky. She's like, when Joanna gets married again, I'm excited because I've seen her. All the souls of everyone in the Philippines. So it's going to be like 50 million people getting married that day. I've decided that when Joanna gets married again, I'm going to have a party on the same night so she at least gets to taste catered food on her wedding night. You know, I'm so excited for Joanna to get married again because I know when the wedding is over, she'll do such a good job of cleaning it up because you know what? She's a wonderful housekeeper. I've never seen anybody come down the aisle with a swiffer sweeper before, but if anybody can do it, my daughter can. I've told her I'm going to pay for her entire wedding as long as she cleans up for herself. I mean, she has to as part of the job description. I love when she said I went to see her family and I'm really glad I did it because it really told me more of a story about Joanna. Like, what did that tell you? That told you nothing, that told you nothing about Joanna. All you did was walk in there and claim to be her mother and then her gift to the mother. She's like, she's like, here's a picture frame for you to put a picture of me and Joanna in. Bill, what are you doing? Who wants a picture of their kids' employer? Yeah, exactly. This is my kids' maid. Thanks for coming over for dinner. Isn't that great? Now you can take a picture of your daughter and her real mother. That's me. I'm the real mother. I don't know who you are but this is the last time you get to see Joanna. And where are they going to get this picture? She didn't give her a picture of her and the maid because she doesn't have one. She's like, you can put a picture of us in it. Where are they going to take a picture of you two? You fucking fool. I love Lydia. She is the dumbest fucking cow on this show. What a narcissist. What a narcissist. She's so old as shit. I love her. I'm like a mother. I'm like a mother. And you know what, next time I come to the Philippines, I'm going to bring my real son but not Joanna. It's the way you can meet my real son because I'm not going to pay for Joanna. She just earned her own way. So good. So then we cut to this discussion between gamble and petty floor where they're going to make up or whatever. Okay. They're like, let's have drinks and talk about this like growing up. Time to switch the bitch, yes. Oh my God. Petty floor is so me. She's an awful girl. She's a vortex of suck. That girl just sucks. She's an awful human being. Hate her. Yeah. Hate her. And I love that the women actually thought for two seconds that they had someone that they could jump on her bandwagon and fight Gina. And you know they all did. Those three bitches did. And then now they can't because they're like, oh, you're a bitch. So she gets together with gamble and she's like, you know, what I want to know is why you treat me like this. And racist, blah, blah, blah. And gambles like, darling, it was just, I was just saying it. It was trying. It was a gentle stab. Darling, I mean, I don't even know that's the same. Remind me again what Petty floor was even mad at gamble about. What did the gamble say that got petty? Was this going back to the Nuvo reach thing? Yes. It was the Nuvo reach thing and about why she's a Nuvo reach Barbie and blah, blah, blah. And Campbell's like, darling, I didn't mean to hate you because I was trying to get you back. You know, because you said something about me. So I said something about you. It's payback, you know. And then Wolfie told me I was just behaving and I said, okay, because Wolfie now sometimes I'm a bad girl, Petty floor. And Petty floor is like, yes, but do you understand why? You are racist or whatever. She starts going off and then she's like, so where do you get your money? And she's like, I didn't feel that until I came about that. Oh, really? Because, you know, I have a wage. I have a job. You know, she starts being a total mean girl. And I love how Petty floor doesn't, it's like, Petty floor doesn't understand why she's being called Barbie Nuvo reach Barbie. When the very first thing she's doing is like having a pissing contest about where you get the money. Like that's what classically Nuvo reach people do. Show off money and then talk about money. That's exactly why you are Nuvo reach Barbie. Not saying that anyone hears old money, Barbie, but still. Yeah, and to count to credit gamble, which I just love for more and more. But to credit her, she was just like, look, I said, I'm sorry, I'm not going to listen to you insult me by. And she just walked out. Yeah, she did. You know, she's not going to have a fight with someone like that. Because, and that's the problem that Petty floor is going to have on this show. Because she's another brandy who just is going to start a fight just so she can be on TV. Bitch, when you're acting like that, nobody's even going to fight with you because you're not even based in any kind of reality. You know, you're just being a bitch to be a bitch. And then gamble walks off and Petty floor is like, oh fine, walk away. Ha, ha, ha. And last, it's like the queen from Sleeping Beauty. I mean, come on. Yeah, and meanwhile, Petty floor, she's like, you know, I'm a very understated woman. I am very, you know, I do not like a lot of bling, et cetera. But then she's like, and she objects to being called Nuvo reach Barbie. Next scene, she comes walking down a staircase with her head covered in jewels. Yeah, diamonds. Diamonds. Diamonds. She's a real class act this bitch. I mean, she looked like a showgirl without the feathers. I like when she said, uh, I like when she said, you know, whenever I talk to a gambler, I think that what I'm saying is distorted in her head. I'm like, yeah, cause she's reading your lips and you're not making any of that. You're speaking in a different accent, you know, that is racist. That is racist. Oh, racist. And, uh, what is gamble hearing when she, when she sees. To be fair, Campbell does, does hear something different from everyone else. I am convinced that like what goes into Yabel's head is like a series of like barks and yips. Yeah. She's like, you have carnival Barbie. And she's like, gamble off it. They take me on a carnival cruise. Mix signals. Mix signals. My father was an artist. Oh, my father was a painter. So then we go down to her, carling her a little dog, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. She walks off, which I liked. I have wage. Uh, oh, okay. Then I wrote the next thing is they all get together again. And gamble is, of course, telling this gamble. I'm not gamble. Pedofluor is telling the story about what happened with gamble. And it's a total misrepresentation. And she's, you know, of course, making yourself look like. I just wanted to know, I just wanted to know how much she earns or where she gets money from. But I love that the women just called her right away on it. And they were like, but wait, didn't you think that was rude? She's like, well, yes, but I have a wage. I earned my living. And then that's when Lydia was like, oh, hell no. She did not just get pissed off at somebody for getting money for the ugly man that they're fucking because I'm not going to have it. And then Lydia was suddenly like not going to have her, which I loved. Because of course, Pedofluor being the hypocritical hoe bag that she is immediately veers into a conversation about how she wants her husband or she didn't even say this. But for her birthday, she wants to white Bentley with white linen, which who wants wrinkled seats? Yeah. Nobody wants wrinkled seats. I've never seen linen that's not wrinkled, OK? Yeah. And how is linen classier than leather? It's not OK. No one died for linen. All right. They don't know. It's great-handing before she gets into that car. She's a fucking idiot. Don't let Gina get in the passenger seat. No kidding. So, yeah, I didn't do that. I don't know that was there. You must have been driving around one of your sisters or something because look at the seats, Brandon. Then Lydia is like, oh, really? Who's paying for the coffee of birthday? Who's paying for it? And Pedofluor is trying to ignore her because she's trying to make everybody on her side and ignores her and ignores her. And she's like, finally, is it your husband? Is it your allowance? Like, yeah, we saw where you were going with that. Nice. Yeah. I'm just loving Lydia. Anytime they show Lydia lately, I just start laughing because she's ridiculous. Yeah. I mean, it's sort of funny. Like, it's very hard to keep track of these women's alliances because every episode, it's like back and forth. Like a Janet hated Pedofluor. Then Janet liked Pedofluor. Then Lydia hated Gina. Lydia is sort of okay with Gina, but not okay with Gina. And they're like, gamble. It's like, I can't keep track of it. I just go with the flow and see where the arguments are any given week. Yeah. It is confusing. I've got like three pages of notes. I'm going through the entire episode today. Do it. We're kind of scene by scene. So they're doing all this shit in the bar. So then they finally have dinner and just decide to forget it and fight again at dinner because what else do you do when you're a housewife? So they're going to have dinner. And gamble starts it off lightly. She's like, oh, so excited for everybody to get to hang out in my system. Because she's going to be coming soon to get back six to three. I tried to talk her out of it, but she's going to do it anyway. I was like, when did you try and talk her out? Yeah. Because last week you're like, do it. Welcome to the high society, bitch. Yeah. She just wanted a nose job and you've got 20 things going on, you know. Yeah. Tell me to talk in a liposuction and a temple reduction. You need people. I told the doctor, give my, give my sister the senior census. I wanted to look just like another hand. We could be hand twins. I like what she said. Yeah. The guy, the doctor is saying that he does my boobs. He does my face. He also does. No. The doctor is the same guy. He did my boobs. He also does faces. Mike, that explains a lot about your face. Didn't you have her, I told my sister, do you want to look like Janice from the muppets? Then go see my doctor. Have you ever seen how fake boobs move in porn? That's about how much your fake, your fake face moves. Okay. They move about the same. Yeah. God bless your little heart. So she starts it and then it turns into pettiflora being a stupid whore again and being like, oh, would you like to know why I called you carnival Barbie? Oh, no. So here's the thing with pettiflora that I love. She hurls an insult and then no one really cares. So then like she gets really bothered that no one cares. Then like the next day or two days later she's like, so I know you've been thinking about it for two days. So would you like me to explain my insults since you never had like she was waiting for people to say like, what's that supposed to mean but no one ever does. So she's just like, she can't step through finally. Okay. Fine. I will now explain my insults since nobody asked. When they were at the pool bonding, Lydia's like, okay, she's like totally fine with gamble now. Yeah. By the way, they were, by the way, they went back. They went to the place that Real House of Atlanta went to the farm, the vegan spa place. Oh, that was the same place. I didn't even know this. Same exact place. But then Lydia starts talking about her, you know, her dead baby and stuff was just totally sad. And Campbell's like, I'm sorry, you know, it's horrible. We didn't know you were talking about dead babies at the other end of the table. We thought it was going to be a fun speech. And Lydia's like, it's okay, darling. It's okay. And then Lydia has this moment with a camera where she's like, you know, sometimes these women get out of control. But the important thing is that we've got sisterhood and we can overcome it. I'm like, you have gold digger sisterhood, and that is the only reason you overcame anything. But please stop trying to front. Campbell did say something. I don't want to say sensible, but like the sort of thing that she should have said to petty floor, which was that she said, well, look, I quit my job in Sydney to move down to be with Rick. So yeah, I don't have a job right now. And so the implication was like, yeah, of course he's paying for everything because I don't have a job. And then she tells Gina flat out. She's like, he does support, you know, I love him because he's beautiful and he does support me. And it was like totally unapologetic and it shouldn't. You know, it's like, I support that. Like, you know, I think it's, you know, she shouldn't have to feel bad about the fact that she found a guy who wants to, you know, once. Of course not. And I know I sound like a hippo saying that because I always give women shit on this show trouble for it. Like I'm always making fun of them. The difference is that she's saying, like, she's able to do what she wants because she has a man who takes care of her and she's owning it or whatever. I hate when Pete, when the women, like, Yolanda Foster acts like she did something, you know? Like, Yolanda acts like she has actually done something other than fuck rich ugly guys for her living. She actually thinks that she's done something. You know, it's women like that who make me fucking crazy. Like, you did not win those Grammys. Okay, so just stop. Oh, my love, my love, David, Bella, Gigi, and the other one. Bella with a penis, you know, sometimes it comes out wrong the second time. Sometimes practice does not make perfect, but that was too long of a name. Um, the, what was I going to say about gamble? Yeah, I agree with you. I do agree with you. You know, I like that gamble just sort of owned it and, um, that she, uh, that she sort of, she just sort of came out with its ability. And she's like, you know what? I didn't feel comfortable saying it. You know, Petty Floor was, was interrogating me and I didn't, like, why should I have to explain myself to her? Whereas with you, we were just talking and so, of course, I'll just, like, say it. I also like, didn't Petty Floor one would say, like, yeah, I like as you put it though, because she's like, she said, well, you know, why can you just say, why can you say it to me, not to pettifluor? And she's like, because you're not being an asshole, darling. Yeah. Well, because didn't Petty Floor one point say, like, listen, I don't want this to be an interrogation, you know, and then first, she's like, so where do you get your money? What do you do for a living? Where you from? Totally. Uh, pettifluor is awful. Okay. So it becomes the Gina and pettifluor fight again. Oh, gosh. You know, and at this point, you know, it is like, there's so many fun. She's just fucking with her so much that, I mean, that's what I love about Gina because she's always fucking with the people that I don't like anyway. So it's like she's messing with her and she is in the wrong, you know, because she starts the conversation by, well, first of all, I want you to know that I did read your book. I read it and I really, you know, I take it back because you did explain what you meant. And I, you know, I accept that. And she's like, well, thank you. That is the biggest compliment from a Gina. It's like, yeah, but you know, the only thing I can say is you don't start a paragraph with because. Yeah. Dying. And then that made pettifluor a little mad, but not mad enough. So Gina said, well, you know, I think the only problem you're going to have is that woman in America suing you for plagiarism. You know, I haven't read her book, but yeah, Sam Simila and, you know, good old Gina brings it right back up and throws it in her face again. Yeah. Love it. We really need to get Amaris on here to get her take on this. Oh, God. She'll give us her take on everything, though. I don't need that. No, I think we should have her on. Like, that's like, that's like a totally viable option. Because I can be good. She's like, I love your show, guys. Can't wait to do it. No, I know I'm a Rosa. I think I might be able to get her to come on for Lisa Segment to talk about it. You know, I'm a Rosa. How do you know I'm a Rosa? I forgot. I met her at an event three years ago. I was at this event. And she was there and it was like the weirdest thing like we, for some reason, we were like standing together. I don't know. Like I was with, I was, you know, you know, my friend Jenny. Uh-huh. Jenny, fantastic. Jenny, fantastic. So Jenny and I were with Amarosa and Amarosa's mom. And somehow we started talking and it was like a love fesc. Here's the dirty little secret about Amarosa. She, you know, you know, she's like the worst, right? She's like the biggest villain. But in person, she was so amazing. We just like loved each other. Well, that's what her book is about. I mean, and by the way, being you met in an event. All right. I've been to Chuck E. Cheese. I don't know. I mean, he's not coming on the podcast. No, no, but it was like, it wasn't, it wasn't like, it was like a red carpet thing. It didn't have to be nice to me at all, you know? But it was just one of those things where we just like all, the four of us just all hit it up. It was amazing. When you ask her to come on the show, are you gonna write, "Hi, I'm that guy that you were nice to." When you come on the show, because, you know, it's just you, she probably wrote your name down. She's like, "I was nice to been." Remember that. I mean, I'll see you later. I was gonna say about the event, Amarosa. Oh, let's see if Switch The Bitch has any reviews on Amazon yet. I keep checking Amazon.com, the bomb.com, Amazon.com. One of my friends texted me a picture on Snapchat, and it was like a picture of food, which really Snapchat is for your dick. Could you not send me pictures of your food? And second of all, please don't ever send me a text with the word bomb.com in it. Never. It's not long enough for it to be ironic yet. Amazon's not coming up. It's just a black page. I'm sure. I don't think there are any reviews yet. Let me look. Oh, no, I was looking at them on people. Oh, yeah. It's like Amazon Business. It's giving me a blank page. Fucking Chrome. Chrome is the worst. Oh, gosh. Did she get me? Did she get me? I have to know, Ben. I have to know, Ben. No, darling. There are no reviews yet, but this is the synopsis. Petty to the Beringer, property developer and star of the hit reality TV show, The Real Housewives of Melbourne, has written her first book based on inspiring stories shared with other women, as well as her own experiences of all types of relationships. The Switch the Bitch formula is like taking an off-ramp in a traffic jam, but it's a completely alternative route you never before considered. The formula releases a woman from all the frustrations that are slowly grinding her down and wasting her life. Did she have anecdotes? We'll walk you through the vital missteps, missteps has misspelled. A woman commonly makes them in relationships. This is just a manuscript in. Complete with the beneficial outcomes once she has switched to Bitch, or in other words, when she has reclaimed her power in a relationship. Oh lord. By taking the off-ramp in the traffic jam of the Bitchery, all of the mixed metaphors, mixed metaphors. The main difference, and I think that what you were talking about with Omarosa that I can tell, is Omarosa is about turning your bitch on and off, which is probably why she can be so nice and then such a bitch. Omarosa is like a guide to bipolarism, basically, and the petty floor is like beat the bitch. Switch bitch means spank in Texas. So, good job. And how are you the champion of your life? You met somebody rich. Give me a break lady. Let's get over yourself. Like she actually works, but you still asking your husband for a Bentley? Okay girl, come on now. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Petaflor is an awful fucking human being, and I cannot wait for the entire world to turn against her, because one thing we've learned from this show, and shows in general, is nothing can bond a pack of bitches like hating another bitch. So, I think this might be, you know, the growing olive branch, you know, that everyone can hopefully pull a little twig off of and send it with a dove. You know, maybe Jean will be nice to people now. But the thing with Gina is that she's just, they just don't like how she is. She's just, she's just snarky. She's going to make a comment about everything. I have people who can't hang out with me either. It's just life. Okay? Yeah. Yeah. But I'm loving her, and I'm loving this show. It's a funny show. So good. So good. And I'm loving Guibin. What a lovely couple of hours. Oh, I love you. I love you. We've had so much fun talking. And guess what, on Thursday, we're going to talk even more, because we're going to do the "For Crying Out Loud" podcast. And then after that, we're going to record our podcast. We have a lot of discussion. Oh, they're both on Thursday, Bean. Yeah, both on Thursday. And I might be recording my banter blender on Thursday too. So I'll just be talking. Oh, girl, no. No, that's too much. She'll be just like, "But..." I'll be there. I'll be there. Yeah, "For Crying Out Loud" podcast is going to be so fun. I love meeting new people. We're actually leaving our house, which is going to be amazing. I haven't done this out of the house. Yeah. And a long time. So we might record "Namal" or a "Daweenus" nitzel. Who knows? Yeah, because "For Crying Out Loud" is recorded in Glendale. So we might just go to the Glendale Gallery and record this. This episode right there from the mall. Or a bar. Who knows? Who knows? But everybody, thank you so much for listening to this podcast. We love you. Yes. And thank you so much for supporting us. And we're not only thanking the people who support us monetarily on a Patreon because that is amazing. For everybody who's supporting us on there, you're getting your bonus episodes and your ringtones and your Google Hangouts, which, by the way, has become so much fun. We had a great one last week. People know each other now. And everybody's just having a really fun time in there with each other. We don't really even have to say anything. We just show up and laugh at you guys. So thanks for everybody who shows up there. And for that, go to patreon.com/watchupcrapins. But what I was going to say is not only thank you to those people because, of course, monetary support is amazing. But thank you to everybody for listening to this and sharing it with your friends. It doesn't take money to support this podcast. And the way you guys have grown us, you've warded this little plant, this podcast has grown a lot more than I ever thought it would. Yeah. It's doing really well. I mean, we just got, I think we just had over 150 new likes on the Facebook page alone in the past week and a half, which is fantastic. It's so great. And the new listener, so many people are actually contributing to the community and showing up on Facebook and getting to be friends with each other. And this is some kind of weird world that I don't think either one of us knew would ever happen. I mean, we didn't win an award, so I'm sorry for giving a speech. But just honestly, like I want people to know, like, it's badass to see it grow and it's because of you guys. So thank you. Yeah, it really means a lot. Like to see that some of our episodes are like in the top 30 or top 40 on iTunes' entertainment chart. It's exciting. It's really crazy. Like we're up there with like professional podcasts. Yeah, it's exciting because this, you know, everything I've ever tried to make happen, it just doesn't. And this, we just show up and we do our thing and you guys have made it happen. Like you guys are the ones that have grown it. We don't do any PR and Lord knows our lovely network doesn't. So I'm like, we're in the same boat there. None of us do. Yeah, we don't just do it. This is full on grassroots. So anyway, that's enough news. And it's, wait, there was something grassroots that happened that was super cool. We had a grassroots moment. Oh, I forget what it was, but I also have to say, I really actually enjoy the symbiotic relationship that we have with our Facebook page because like you were saying, the Facebook page has become its own community. And I'm finding that I'm actually just going there. I'm like checking the Facebook page multiple times a day just to see what people are posting and to see what news and gossip is there. So it's like you guys are actually really feeding us in many ways. Oh, yeah. I check it on the pot in the first thing in the morning. I read that Facebook and then I'm usually reading it when I go to sleep at night. So you see you guys? It's like a real relationship. Yeah. So anyway, thanks you guys. Being sincere for too long makes me feel gross. But thank you so much for everything and we will see you on Thursday. Come check out the bonus episode over on Patreon because it's a serious one today. We're at some burgers. Come on over. Oh, one last thing. The Thursday episode may have maybe up a little bit later since we're going to be recording later in the day because we're doing the other podcast first. Oh, yes. So there you go. All right, everybody. You know what? 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