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A dress was stolen and, you know, tempers were, tempers flared and it's all been downhill ever since. But we've made it back and here we are all together again. Thank you guys for having me. The prodigal son has returned for throwback Thursday. I'm glad to be here. Yeah, and do you have pearls nearby to clutch? Cause there's gonna be a lot of pearl clutch in I already sense. Well, my girl just actually, when I met her like a year plus ago when she moved to LA, she actually bought me a strand of pearls and I have them with me at all times. Oh, that's good, nice. For those of you who don't know, Matt, who are newer to the podcast, Matt, is there a little hose? Let's stop right there. Who does this know who the fuck I am? Well, you know, Matt, you know, some people are fairly new, okay? Yeah, some people, we actually have a bunch of new listeners and new people who have liked us on Facebook, thanks to the for crying out loud podcast, which has been giving us shout outs. So we have a bunch of new people. And to that, we say welcome and meet Matt. Matt was one of our original co-hosts. Yeah, Matt sounds funny. I don't know how I feel about these new people. Oh, well, we don't know how they'll feel about you either, Matthew, time will tell you. Exactly, exactly, exactly. I'm like the Lisa Rinna. Like maybe I'll only be around for one more episode or one more season. How dare you why did you get fired? Why are you saying that? No, I'm kidding. I don't know. Matt is going to, what was I going to say about Matt? Oh, Matt sounds weird because he's a call-in guest. Yeah, we actually have a call-in guest. Matt was supposed to come on last week and then we got word that leaves you up. You want me to explain? Sure. Yeah, I'll explain how this went. I was supposed to be on the show last week. I was supposed to actually be on two weeks ago for the premiere of New York because it is the crown jewel, in my opinion. Yes. Next week I got bumped for Lisa Rinna. And then when Lisa Rinna canceled, Ronnie called me back to ask me if I could join. And then I was like, dude, I already filled that slot in the schedule. So sorry. I'm no second fiddle to Lisa Rinna, okay? Yeah, thank you. Big boot idiot from Days of Our Lives. You replaced it. Who replaced it there? Exactly. I almost had replaced it. Actually, I did say it. I didn't almost say it. I said replaced it her. And then Matt sent a text that said, you need to be nicer to your sister. I will fuck you up. If you're not kidding, talk like that just 'cause you're mad, all right. (laughing) Did you guys catch, last night, that she had a, like, Kim Richards had a moment of Teresa Judee J, where she said, text specific is like-- Yes. Couldn't say the word text. And I was like, what is happening? How can you talk about these texts? You know, it's like classic Kim. (laughing) Oh, Kim, God bless her heart. Well, there's a lot to discuss today. What show would you guys like to start with? Well, why don't we just start with Beverly Hills? We're already talking about Lisa. One thing, one thing I wanna do first, before we really dive into it, since we haven't touched base with Matt in a little bit, I wanna see Matt wear your loyalties lie. Like, what team are you on? Who do you like these days? Team new girls. I'm all about Eileen and Lisa. I've loved Lisa since. She was Taylor McBride, along with that Rob Estes on Melrose Place. So I'm team new girls. And in a crazy, crazy way, they're starting to make me, and I don't know if it's the editors, or if it's just how much I hate Kim, but I'm starting to like Kyle a little bit more. And I really, really like Kyle, Lisa, Lisa, and Eileen. Yeah, I think that that's my for some. Yeah, I would agree, and I think the reason, one of my theories that I've been sort of, like, stammering my way through all season, is that I think that I think the past few seasons, one of the reasons why we've really disliked Kyle, is because she's been putting up like, well, she, when they're all assholes, but she's been trying to put up a facade, that she's this nice, sweet person who's conciliatory, because this first season one, she was kind of like a raging bitch, 'cause she had that big fight with Camille. And then I think she tried to like fix her image, but I think this season, the real Kyle has come out again, and she doesn't realize, and I think people like that side of her. People like when she gets so angry, she can't help but yelling at people, 'cause it's actually very real. Well, Kim deserves all of the yelling that she's receiving from Kyle. I mean, in the three reunion episodes, I mean, Kim was a fucking raging psychopath, and I thought Kyle did a good job of like holding it back, but I really actually want to see her attack her sister. - Yeah, at this point, I want to see the problem. - I miss the days of her attacking her in the back of a limousine. - Yeah, totally. Well, I don't like Kyle because of the whole Lisa Vanderpump thing, and I know people are like, "Ah, you're not Lisa Vanderpump's ass." But I just think she's like super funny and like a cool chick, and Kyle went after her with such stupid stuff. Like she got on that weird team with Adrian Maloof and not Brandy. Well, last year was Brandy, but at first, it was Adrian Maloof and whoever else. She got on this weird team where she just didn't like her for no reason. And I think she had housewise jealousy, and I didn't like it. - They all got like obsessed. - Total jealousy, yeah. - Yeah, they got obsessed with this notion that, ooh, Lisa is the mastermind and she's using you and like hanging out with her as like playing chess because she's manipulating you. And it's like, okay, fine, but to what end? She's not like trying to take over a corporation, you know? What happened was Lisa got Vanderpump's rules two seasons ago and season one was such a success. And then they got re-upped and it was all of that. And the girls were incredibly jealous. And I think Kyle in opening that store in Beverly Hills was hoping that she could then also get it off. And that shit did not happen. And I think that it was massive jealousy, but I think Kyle is understanding that she comes across as a bitch on TV and she wants to dial it back and she wants to play more of the mommy role, which I think is a little boring. But, you know, as long as she fights somewhat likeable, but I don't have to fall too much into this like boring, like the boring, like, let's just don't have a Porsche 'cause that gets tiresome. - Yeah, it does. Well, I think that the Porsche stuff is best the way we saw it this week, which was saved for a loss footage special. 'Cause I don't really care too much about Porsche or anything that any of the storylines around her. And yet I found that I was sort of enjoying these scenes of watching her going to speech therapy. I was like sort of fascinated to see how that would work, you know? - Holy shit. - I know, and I kind of felt bad. It was a sad scene. - 'Cause she can't pronounce her name. - She didn't want to say her own name. - She was like, listen, honey, this family has a long tradition of stupid names. Her cousin is Paris, do you think that's easy for her? No. (laughing) This is where Paris first started her downward trend was when she started sticking popsicle sticks in her mouth at age six. - I just, my whole thing is, like, Porsche is adorable, and I thought that scene was fine. And yet it's fine for a lost footage episode. But like, when she's telling Kyle that she wants to be an actress, and Kyle is actually saying that she's gonna, you know, encourage that, or would she say she said, she said, I'm not gonna encourage it, but I'm gonna support it. - I think she's talking about Camila's cousin. - Yeah, yeah. Look, we all live in this town. Look, what happened to her fucked up sister, child actress Kim. Like, maybe it's not the best idea. - Yeah, I think that's why she says it. There was a blind item last week. You know those dumb blind items? I don't know if they're true or not, but I love how-- - They're all true. - I love how dirty they are. And last week there was one about Kim Richards that was posted on her Facebook. And it was, this child actress had to sleep with adults when she was a child and strip in front of people while they masturbated in front of, you know, like shit like that. I mean, geez, I know acting's hard, but if you've got those kind of issues in your family, maybe, you know, maybe it's best to get her interested in singing whole-time career, you know? - Well, I don't think Kyle is the worst mother we've seen on the Real Housewives, but sometimes there are things where I'm like, she could probably be a little bit better. I mean, like Portia is getting a little spoiled from what we can see. And also, just in like the lost footage, they show Portia climbing up onto the counter and like stealing a brownie. And I was like, why is, who told this little girl it's okay for her to get up onto a counter with her feet? - And nobody, that little girl-- - But if she happens to sit 10 seconds later, Kyle gets up on the counter with her feet and starts to fix the picture, I was like, oh, never mind. - Yeah, very good. - To clarify, I'm sitting on my Carrera marble counters in my kitchen right now doing this podcast that I'm staring at ground. - Yeah, it comes from your mother. I still get a boner when I see Francia. It's like-- - I love how I have all these mommy issues. - I love how I have all these opinions on how Portia should be real. I'm like the least qualified person to say any of this. I have no kids and I'm very awkward around them, so I should really shut up. - Well, I think you know more about kids when you don't have them, because then you have them and then you're like, wait a second. I knew I knew what to do right now, but I forgot. 'Cause, you know, look, most of us know, most of us without kids know, if your kid is screaming in a store, beat it until it's quiet, you know? But then when you actually have a kid-- - Later, I'm looking at my kid in a store. - Yeah. - You become a pussy? - No, of course not. - And they're so cute. - Speaking of kids, what do you think about the little grandma segment and Pandy comes back with her new husband and Lisa is just itching to have some grand babies? - Well, Portia looks like he's waiting to get to the abilator for a drink and he's more bored than ever. - If he looked a little uncomfortable, it may have to do with the oversized chair of chairs they were sitting in. Did you guys see those things? - Very awkward. - Very awkward. - Stoned chair of chairs. I was like, "Darling, this Chef Pandy made these for us." So you have to sit with them. - Darling. - Did you notice that he also had more hair and it was darker this time because when he was getting married, he was kind of having a Prince William situation where he was straight up bald with some bangs and now he has a full thick mane. - Yeah, there's some rugaine. - Darling. - I love how that whole family gets together. And she's like, "Mommy, no." She's like, "But Darling, yes Darling, do you know what I would love with my tea?" - I go, "Lord." He's like, "I was hoping you would take over a pump because we'd sure no your brother can't do it." - He's gonna be 50 years before he's even a waiter, Darling. - But Lisa looked amazing in that scene. She was wearing some jeans showing off that pedanga dunk. God, she looks great. - And the little, she had those on him from like, little wedges. She was looking hot at that. - Yeah. And by the way, you know, it's funny with that you mentioned Lisa Rina appearing with Rob Estes on "Mara's Place" because if you think about it, Lisa Vanderpump's big claim to fame was that she was on "Silke Sockings," right? So really Rob Estes. - You got me started on "Silke Sockings" with Mitzi Capture on "U.S.B." I freaking love that show. Do you guys feel cost or is it just me? - No, we just haven't been incensed enough. - I just call Mother's Pussies. - Yeah. - Okay. - Yeah, you could say what if you want. Ronnie's working really hard to stop saying the C word, which is fun. - It's not working. - That's really the reason. That's really the reason I started clutching my curls 'cause I was like, I have a feeling that 80% of the listeners are female. Then Ronnie loved that C word. - Yeah, he really did. - Oh, listen. Some people learn it. (laughs) - Especially, I mean, once Orange County starts up again and we start talking about cutting it, it's really the biggest, it's the biggest pitfall. - You guys, do me one favor. I know I've been MIA and a lot of it has to do with the fact that, you know, I had my arms thought in half again and I've been away at work, but please have me back for the OC premiere. - Absolutely. - Do you guys hear the gospel about OC this week? - No. - I don't think it's true because they had some weird cast call sheet as their evidence, which not everybody is in the scene that day when you have a cast call. But there was something online this week about how there's only gonna be five women and there aren't any newbies. And everyone's like, wow, that either means somebody got fired or somebody's a newbie or the newbie's already got fired or there never were newbies. - No, it's ridiculous. This last season was so good. Clearly, I don't know what the ratings were, but like in terms of like-- - They were good. They were good. - In terms of like watchability, it was their best season in a few years. I mean, there would be ridiculous to tamper with that. I think Bravo is pretty smart. Usually they have a good season. They don't mess with it too much. - Well, that was-- - Well, so Jeff Lewis posted a photo on Instagram I think the other day and he was out to dinner with Heather, Tammy Sue, and Shannon. So I think that they're also in the mix. Obviously, OG Vicki is there. - Yeah, you can go to the gym. - Is that, who is that new like younger brown hair girl that I don't know? - She can go. She's-- - She can go, but the main thing is, yes, we all know Gina Kehoe needs to be back in the mix 100% and not just friend of. - Well, isn't there, wasn't there run the rumors that she's gonna be back? - She's back as a friend of, I think. Listen, I think right now, I think the tinderbox of Vicki, Heather, Tamara, Shannon, and I'm sure there was, it wasn't just Lizzie, wasn't there someone else that was in the mix? It doesn't matter. Those four, the dynamic is so messed up and great. I mean, I just, I would be furious if they messed with that. - I would feel really-- - I have taken up water coloring because it's hard being a mom alone. I've started water coloring on my bikini sketches. - Yeah. - Let me get a moment of silence for Tammy, Tammy Knickerbacher, sorry. I just, I love her. - Oh yeah. - I just like saying Tammy Knickerbacher, sorry. - That was pretty amazing though, when they brought her back in that 10-year special or whatever it was. - She keeps the dream of Steve Perry's hair alive. - Okay, back to Beverly Hills, I have question. - Please. - Where the hell is this trailer park that Kim and Lisa Rinna met up at that? After they had that conversation, then Kim jumps over a guardrail into traffic to then jumps through a pile of leaves and a bush to go back to her mess den in like Zuzu's next to Shane's house. Like where were they? - She was running off to the bridge to Terabithia. I, for a moment, I thought they were at the Lake Hollywood Reservoir, but I'm not sure, to be honest. - No, I don't think that's what it was. - Kim's like, all right, listen, meet me. Okay, drive on the freeway and then get off. And then get back on again. And then you're gonna see a tree. Then get out and then listen for me. I'll be making yoga sounds, okay? Then jump over the guardrail and walk slowly towards the tree 'cause I don't want you to hurt me. I'm afraid you're gonna kill me. Are you gonna kill me? - I mean, Jesus, Kim. She's like, this is, I'm scared. I'm so scared 'cause that's the physical vibe. Are you gonna hurt me? - Well, the thing is she had so much moonshine in her system, if Lisa had punched her, she would not have felt it. - Yeah, if any person in danger, it's anybody on the street while you're driving to this location, bitch. - I do have to say one thing about Kim, though, in that scene, regardless of what happened. - Her hair was on fleek. - She looked amazing in that scene. I was like, Kim looks fantastic. Her hair looked good, her fat. I was like, she looks great. And she was just speaking nonsense. She was like, I just wanna make sure that, and these are scary, I just wanna make sure, like, I'm not gonna be in danger when I meet up with you. I was like, you know what's a great idea to make sure you're not gonna be in danger, meaning with someone one-on-one. Like, what else are you supposed to say, no? - Yeah, and I hit my spot that the police can't even get to 'cause they aren't gonna jump a guardrail for your ass. - Well, what I love, girls-- - I've never seen a horror film, like, let's be gonna tap it in the wood. - She's like, well, you know, I was this camper at Crystal Lake, and we always had problems at the lake, but I wanna come back here 'cause you might have been a childhood. - I was trying to get away from Rinna, but my car wouldn't start. And then a black person got killed first. It's like-- - I was getting stalked by Locke Borges on Friday the 13th, it was scary. So, can you do the worst? - I knew Matt would appreciate that. I knew Matt would be the worst in a horror movie. - I mean, I was the best in a horror movie. - I'm in the house, where are you, I'll find you. I love this game. One time I played this with Cagney from Cagney and Lacey, I never found her. - I had a dream with Diane Krueger trying to kill me. Jan Kloz and a sweater. So, no, so the thing was in terms of the actual scene. So, I loved how Lisa Rinna was like, well, you know, you have to know the reason why I sent that was because, you know, what you said about Harriet, of course, Kim denies anything. But then, so then Lisa's like, you know, it upset me and Kim's like, I'm not here to talk about that. I'm not here to talk about that. And then Lisa's like, well, I said, I'm sorry, so we're done. Kim's like, you're not allowed to say we're done. And Lisa's like, well, I need to tell you why I did that. And Kim's like, all right, we're done here. - I wanna take that tactic into real life where people say, you know, Ronnie, you rear-ended my car the other day. And I could just be like, I'm not here to discuss that. Like, I'm not gonna talk about that right now. But you, you know, abused my dog. I don't, I'm not here to talk about that. Okay, that's for another day. Oh, what the fuck, who gets to do that? We're gonna talk about it, okay? - Yeah, and I did love that, as Matt mentioned, that then like once, once Kim stormed off, like we saw in the beginning, we saw Lisa were gonna pull up to a parking area and walk out and walk to this bench. And this bench was like, this was like some weird Ingmar Bergman meets like the Godfather situation. Like I thought some shit was about to go down. But Kim just goes off on this like leafy hill and just disappears like, where did she park her car? - I also like, I also like it. - She doesn't have a license. Do you see all of the women driving all season long, except for Kim Richards? There is a reason. - Well, they showed her in the first episode getting into like a jag, I think, or a Mercedes, some brand new car. - Oh, wait, didn't she, maybe you're right. And didn't she also like go with brandy and some like Jeep, that's okay, fine. The point is this, she jumped over a guard rail and she disappeared. And Lisa Renna was giving great quotes as Kim was walking off into the shadows. And it's just true. It's like, Kim keeps saying like, I didn't threaten your family and she clearly did, but like why isn't anybody like screaming at her? I need more screaming at Kim. - Well, 'cause it's like screaming at like a bottle of vodka. Like it's not, you're not gonna get a response back that's gonna be satisfying. And the funny thing is that Lisa Renna just sits there. She's sitting there and then you could see her. She's probably thinking, so are we wrapped? Can I go home now? - I thought the best part was when Kim was stalking off all magic. - I'm not gonna talk about it, I'm out of here. - And Lisa Renna is like, it's someone's gonna hold you accountable at some point, Kim Richards. - And then Kim stops at a tree. Like some random tree and she's like. - Hey, she's your angry. Doesn't give you the right to send texts like that, Missy. - Well, how do you think like, don't you think like this is like super delicious for especially Renna and maybe even Kyle a little bit? I mean, Kyle's probably concerned about her sister with all the shit that's gone down in the past two weeks. But don't you think Renna is just sitting back just going like, fuck yeah. - Yeah, absolutely. - It's like perfect timing. - And why is it that like Kim Richards is allowed to say, just 'cause you're angry, doesn't give you the right to send texts like that. And then at the same time, I don't reunion or any other time she says, well, I said it 'cause I was angry. I said it 'cause I was angry. It was huge in all of that. So like, what is it? What is it, Kim? - Yeah. Another. - I don't know where, go ahead, sorry, honey. - I'm just gonna say I'm dying to know what Kathy, she always says like, well, Kathy, Kathy Hilton, and I just want to know what Kathy really thinks of all this. - She probably hasn't talked to Kathy yet. She probably hasn't got to talk to Kathy in 10 years. Kim probably like reads the Kathy comic strip and thinks it's her sister talking to her. She's like, Kathy always wants to talk to it. - She's like, Kathy, no Jamie, my sister's amazing and sister act. - My sister's a witch, so you gotta be careful. (laughing) - She probably just gets that automatic deposit every time and every time she goes to her Wells Fargo, she's like, ah, Kathy, so reattaxed this is. (laughing) - $5,000 for you. Here's your auto deposit from your sister, Kathy. - Please. (laughing) - Not to take like a step backward into like episode two and three from reunion, but I really just, I just really have to say like, when Kyle and Kim, I think it was reunion episode three, when Kyle and Kim were really getting into it and you could see Kyle was fighting back the tears and she really just wanted the lash out when they were discussing the dog bite and everything. What Kyle did not say in a moment of anger that I was really hoping for is, bitch, don't ever forget that Mauricio and I have been paying for your life for the past 20 years and you think I stole your house, you think I did this, you think I did that. At the end of the day, bitch, you would be living in a fucking dumpster if it were not for me and my husband. - Right. - Hey, hey, your kid put her hand in my dog's mouth. Try to choke him poor guy. (laughing) I think that's the thing that was like, you could see that all over Kyle's face. You could see that this ends up a trail. Like, I have done so much shit for you and that's, I mean, that's what's fueling this, the second half of the season. You know, she's saying, I've bankrolled this, I've kept your secrets, I have tried, I have helped you, I've done this and that and then you go and say that I've never been there for you and that Brandy's a better friend, you know? I mean, that's why I think the whole second half of the season has been so riveting because I think that undercurrent, even though it has never been articulated, it's there and you can sense it and it's such a real thing that it's made the second half of the season to me totally compelling. - Yeah. It's been a fun season. - Right, I mean, Bethany was on Watch What Happens Live and Andy was asking her about that and she said, yeah, this one really does seem the most fucked up because of the sister's relationship. I mean, we've had relationships obviously on Jersey and stuff like that but the true like feud and years of drama between Kim and Kyle is truly the most real thing I think that we've seen across any of these franchise. - Right and Jersey for that first season when the Gorgos appeared was riveting too 'cause there was real shit going on between those siblings but it kind of like went its course and after a while I was like, okay, you guys have to, this is like-- - But also it's them, it's who it is, like they're idiots. - They yell like that probably at gas station attendance. You know, it's like no big deal when Joe yells at Teresa or Teresa yells at Joe because they're both monkeys. - Right and those issues stemmed from like, you know, Teresa felt like Melissa took her brother away from her and Joe felt like Joe was being mean to him. It's just like stuff that's like sort of like real but easily resolved. It was like one season's worth of stuff whereas this stuff with the Richard sisters is like deep shit involving like jealousy. - I threw away my sugar cookies, Kyle. I brought sugar cookies, he threw them away. - I started the spring. - So I heard some Rina stuff on the internet today that she was cast in some mini series to play Kris Jenner, which should be hilarious. - Oh my God, that's the best news of the year. - The ultimate pimp, that she would be great. - I think that would be really funny because Kyle's friends with Kris Jenner and all those bitches, like Faye Resnick and all of those guys. So I think that would be funny if there was like a fight in the future. Like, you know, I don't appreciate you using your days of our lives wig for my role. - I love watching Lisa go to her role on Bound to Babysitting. And it's, you know, I love Lisa Rina. I love her on this show. I've liked her off show personality and everything but I did think it was funny when she was like, you know, acting is the easiest job. No one else will say it, but they just pamper you. And I'm like, she's right. But at the same time, I'm like, but at the same time, you're also, you're not an A-lister. - This is not my left foot, okay, Lisa. Or not. - Well, right. I mean, it's also not-- - Yeah, she's not in still Alice too. It was a life-tisinger. - Totally. - But when I was in Rain Man, now that was some work. - I have to admit though, when they said action and they showed that like three second clip of her, she's good. - She's good. - I love her. - She actually is good. And I think that Lisa Rinna is like very, I feel like I get a lot of honesty from her and I think that's what makes her likable. Although I know some people on our Facebook page don't like her. I can't get the dislike. I'm just pure Rinna. - John yet. - Bitch, there's always season two in the bitch flower blooms. - Well, exactly. And I think that they've really set it up that way. I mean, who knows if Kim will come back? I think Bravo would have a serious issue on their hands. If Kim comes back in full capacity because clearly she needs to be locked up in a padded cell. - Right. - You know, I think that I think that Rinna has percolated perfectly to becoming like a shister in a good way on like some people that I want to talk about on New York in a few minutes. But I think that Rinna gets, she's a new person who gets involved. And I think that's good as opposed to people that are, you know, floaters grab a life vest. Like I can't handle it. - Well, did you guys see the clip of Kim on Dr. Phil that emerged today? - No. - I'm waiting for the full episode, baby. - Basically what happens is that Dr. Phil is kind of like, you know, harassing her in his usual way. He's like, you're drunk at the polo lounge. That's not good mothering, you know? And then, that's a great impression. - Apparently, I've never done a Dr. Phil before, thank you. Apparently what happens is like her three kids come out and sit on the couch and she's like, this isn't an intervention, I wasn't prepared for this. I don't want that and she storms out. - Oh my God. - I'm not talking about this but I'm here to talk about my growing soap dish. - Yeah, cut to her climbing over a little wall to go to her shanty town where she's funny. - She's like, what is the free way? Where is the free way I'm hopping over it? - Yeah. (laughing) - I would totally, by the way, I would love them to greenlight us and off of her and Monty. - Oh, no, it's just, it would just be a close-up of a meth pipe and like some TV on in the background. I know you'd hear some cackling. - That's a good one, I forgot that one. And don't pretend that you would not be fucking riveted. - Well, I don't want to see Monty, okay? 'Cause he's dying and the poor guy, it's like A, let him die in peace but also like I don't want to be feeling bad after every episode, you know? But give me Kim Richards and like a ketchup bottle, sure. - Your whole TV cancer isn't real, it's on TV. - I still feel bad. - So let's move on to the other clips from this show that don't have anything to do with that sandpapery hack. Kim, yeah. - Can we talk about my favorite one, which obviously as a kind of superstar, I want to talk about Camille's Neverland Ranch. - Oh my God, fucking Camille. - How much do you think that person costs the maintainer for her? - I cannot believe she's still living in that home. - Yeah. - Well, she's been trying to sell it. - She's been on the market for like three years at like $19 million, but the grounds alone must cost half a million dollars a year to know. - Yeah, I mean, that's like a, those are huge. I loved Lisa Vanderpump getting all like crabby because they weren't getting down to the tennis course fast and she's like, "I didn't come here to pick pomegranates. "I came here to play tennis." - I just love that Camille's like, "Hey, girls are coming over. "Let's go look at my grounds." It's like, "Bitch, please," with that. - You did not work for that, stop it. Swallowing a few Frasier loads doesn't like give you the right to like have TV cameras in here again, traipsing through everything. Cut it out, Camille. She's still an asshole. - Okay, no, no, cut it out, Ronnie. You have to admit that you have to miss her. She made for great TV. - No, I don't. I did miss seeing Dee Dee with a leaf blower, though. (laughing) You know Dee Dee and Hagrid are out there pulling weeds at it. - As I think you call the other one Hagrid. - I want her back full time. I want Maloof back full time. Like I just, I want to get back to Dee Dee. - Get rid of Brandy. - Get rid of Brandy. - Brandy was only in one scene, and I think it's like, there's a reason for that. You know, Brandy, she's so nasty. You know, on her Bravo blog, she, her most recent Bravo blog, I believe, I was reading it, and she was like squawking about Lisa Vanderpump. And she's like, you know, like I provided her with a lead in audience for her show to get like kick started. And she basically was taking credit for all of Vanderpump rules as success. 'Cause remember how, remember the pilot? - 'Cause you actually showed up to do a scene with the woman who stole your husband that you've mentioned 19 times in episode. How about Shina deserves some credit for giving you a fucking storyline in the first place, Bitch? - Exactly. - You better send her one of those fruit bouquets. - Yeah, send her a crop top of gratitude. - This is what throws me off though, because like I think that everyone, Kate Brandy, her storylines are pretty much dead. The fact that her boys are not on the show, the fact that she can't fight with the land rhymes on the show, like there's nothing really there for her, but she is always on watch what happens live with Andy. And I don't know if that's because Andy thinks she makes for good TV for his personal show, or if that is foreshadowing that she's always gonna be in the mix somehow, but I think she's got to go. But like Andy, I think has a connection with her. - Andy loves the biggest bitches on his shows. His favorite ones are the most evil ones. He likes Brandy, he likes Adriana from Real Housewives of Miami. - He's had, and he's had Jill Zarin back once or twice, he doesn't care, just because they lose their job, they'll still have him on. He'll have Kat O'Manion. - Oh, I like that chick. They should be on her on, but I think she's out of the country or something. - Yeah, I think they should put Leah Black on Beverly Hills. I would be pro that. - Yeah, she lives here in the summers. - Yeah. - Hey guys. - She's gonna be on watch What Happens Tonight, actually. - I'm having a purse party, woohoo. This purse looks like a legal pad, but it holds a lipstick. - She sends an invoice. - How fun is that? - So, also in this episode was the wonderful Amsterdam trip where Yolanda went to visit her family home. I died. - Yes. - Oh, look at it, it's so cute. Hide your mind if I come with my friends because I want to prove I was poor one time. Okay, oh, look at your tiny little house. I can't believe I lived like this. I'm taller than the house. Oh, you're so cute. - Jew eat beans, a lot, we used to eat beans. Like, oh, my God. - She kept saying that it was, she felt like it was important for her girlfriends to see where she grew up and how she grew up, but is that like some weird code for, I want them to see how rich I am now, thanks to the men I sleep with? Or what is that? (laughing) - When she said that's when someone was like, Yolanda's come a long way. I'm like, yeah, I'm like physically. - Oh, again, it was Rina who has like great confessionals who just kept going like, mmm, girl did it right. - She was also the one he said. Thanks, Kelsey, once you went to-- - Yeah, come here. - I actually jotted that down in my notes. Like, it didn't cool tech have written in front of me. Thanks, Kelsey, because that was the other, that was the other shining moment. - I like to when Kyle made fun of Yolanda, the fact that Yolanda knocks on the storage, she's like, I am Yolanda, go like halleluhluh, and then Kyle's like, is this the way they just do it in Amsterdam? I'm just like, halleluh, and by the way, who's the one, it was Kim, right? Who was like-- - I was like-- - She was speaking class? - Kim was like, Kim was like, I can't speak Hollandish, Amsterdamese, Hollandish. I'm like, you are, God, to be fucking kidding. You're in the country and you still don't know the word Dutch? - Hey, I love your country, but I hate your sauce. It's so spicy, can you do something about that? (laughs) - I love her example of Spanish. - I was watching her the word, yeah, I wouldn't, okay, she didn't try, I'm Spanish, didn't she? - It's, that was like the classic, that's the classic amazing racing. You know what an amazing race, anytime they go to a different country, everyone goes, it was like, rapido, rapido, rapido, no matter what country they say to the cabs. Rapido, rapido, rapido. - Yeah, Kim does not know Spanish, and that explains why her mate is always standing around with a picture frame. She's like, - Poise of Lauren, when polite, the blah, blah, liena kitchen. - Nothing ever gets done. - Her mate doesn't listen to me, I don't know why. - They make great, Hollandish chicken salad. (laughs) - The only word she's gonna, the only phrase she knows is get the cancer pills. - We also saw Yolanda looking at different houses with Mariez. So it was turning into John Lovitz at a rapid pace. - Risio is looking a little, he was looking a little skeezy (laughs) with his like shirt like I'm done, and his like golden, you know, pendant hanging there. It's just like, let's, let's class it up there, Mariez. So you're supposed to be sexy. - Yeah, yeah. - I love that also downsizing for her instead of living in 11,000 square feet is moving to 8,000 square feet. - Right. - And I love how like once the girls are gone, like, they need to down, they need to downsize. Anwar, it's like, oh no, no one really cares about how much Rumanwar has. So we're just gonna go with, it was like, you know, the girls have got the next chapter. It's just me and David and you know that boy, what's his name, Andy, Anwar? (laughs) - Unless he's on the side of a billboard or a bus, he doesn't get a shit about that kid. - Yeah, Bella. - Yeah, it does look just like Bella. - What Bella? - What, what we miss her, what we miss her refrigerator. I mean, that fridge is kind of the best friend of house boys. - I'm sure they'll re-install. You know that like every kitchen they looked at, she's gonna tear up anyway. - She's like, we saved 50 million dollars on the house and spent 90 on a refrigerator for my banana. Like what the hell's even in that fridge? It's like sparkling water in a pineapple. I do not want my fridge to have to look pretty. You should see what's in there now. It's like five week old eggs and like some Worcestershire spill all over the place. It's not cute in there. - By the way, I have to say for the record, I didn't like you to the house as she looked at. - Oh, ugly, people, there's something weird about money in LA, maybe because it's new or people are too lazy to like just knock down the house, but expensive houses here are fucking ugly, the taste level. - There are some nice ones, but those were not, those were not them. - Not cute. Those were like some skips on Zillow, girl. - Mauricio needs to step it up. - Step it up, John Movitz. - Step, step up. - So what else happened on this? You're large. - Yeah. - Eileen was looking gorgeous going to the day. - Yes. - Eileen was looking good going to the daytime Emmys and I, again, I don't know that she brings that much to the show. I like when she would shut Kim and Brandy down a lot during the reunion. I think that she kind of finally found her balls, but that point she didn't have them all that through the entire season. But I liked that she kind of got riled up and thought that those girls were disgusting, but the only thing that we really saw her for the lost footage was looking glam for the daytime Emmys when she actually won, and I don't know. - And the also show. - I like her. - And then Bravo also showed a lot of embarrassing footage of her from the Subapras. - Oh, yeah. They'll find the dumbest clip you can possibly find. - You know, that's, I mean, I don't know. - I'm sure that you guys think that she's necessary. Like, what do you think? Like, what do you think on her? - Eileen, I'm boring. - No, I don't think she's boring. I think she's necessary in that she is sort of the Greek chorus situation. She hasn't brought too much the stories, but she has like, you know, I think she added on nicely to the Kim's story. And was she central to anything? Not really, but I think she is highly entertaining. I think the things she says are things that we're thinking. And she also brings that glamour that Brandy cannot bring and will never bring. - When she was saying, oh, you know, the fans of Days, they get to see a different side of me. And, you know, they get to see that I'm a real person behind the screen. I'm like, no, I'd rather have Christian Demira here. I need you stealing babies from people, showing up in big, fake, denture teeth. Like, that's Eileen and I love. I don't like this lady with some kid who can barely stand her puttering around her faux walled house. I don't need that. I'm okay with it because I like her little comments. And I like when she also dramatically gets disgusted by something, you know, case in point, like, did you call me a beast? How dare you? - Yeah, I like that. If there's more of that. I mean, season two, you know, they usually need to warm up seasons. - Well, season two, she's, if Brandy and Kim come back, season two, she will be, you know, full on feuding with them, I guarantee. - I can't imagine. - I think that she... - I can't imagine Brandy or Kim coming back, but I do think that she and Rinna in watching the season for the first time, like Ronnie said, like people's personalities and actions change dramatically between seasons, their first and their second seasons. And I think that Rinna is poised to become the star of this one, you know, up there with Vanderpump, and I feel, 'cause I feel like Rinna would make for great scenes with anybody that they rotate into the cast, but Eileen just stepped it up next season if she's gonna get a third season. - I have an important announcement. - Yeah. - I'm cleaning my nails with a fork. Okay, carry on. - No, I'm impressed with Rinna because a lot of-- - Please tell me it's disposable, right? - Is it a watch to call it? - Nope, it's like one from last week, I ate a salad at my desk and left the fork here. So I'm probably getting like some Tahini dressing up in my nails right now while I-- - I was imagining you reenacting the fork scene from Little Mermaid, which then made me think of, that made me think of what when we did our take of like Adrienne Maloof has the Little Mermaid from a few weeks ago. - Look at this world, isn't it neat? Wouldn't you think my collections complete? Wouldn't you think I'm a girl? Girl has everything. (laughing) - Little dog walks by and shits on the marble. - Oh, jackpot is jackpot, the crab's name is jackpot. - All right, we're 40 minutes into this sucka, so let's move on to the next show or do you guys have any more Beverly Hills you need to discuss before? - No, all I was gonna say-- - That's the last season. - All my last thought on it was that, I'm very happily serving it 'cause a lot of celebrities when they do reality shows, especially shows that like we're revolved around them, they are like highly scripted and they are very controlled with their image and I feel like Lee's serving it just sort of gave herself over to it, which is I think why we all like her so much in this. - Yeah. - Exactly, and as a segue, I feel into New York. I feel like that's why I like her so much because she reminds me so much of Bethany and she really is unfiltered and thought. - Well, original Bethany. - Do you feel like Bethany? Tell us the truth. - I've forever loved her, I think. - Well, you had a period where you were sick. - You were angry at Bethany for a little bit, don't lie, remember? - I think it was angry at her because I didn't like Jake and Holly from the get-go, but yeah. - So there's an issue with the talk show where we were trying to get tickets. You actually had a personal beef with-- - Oh, I do have a personal beef with one of those like little bitches that was one of her like PR people that was supposed to secure a three seats for her talk show, and I'm telling you, she probably got canceled because three of us were not in the front row. - That's right, I agree. Well, people are like, God, there needs to be more disapproving gays, more disapproving gays in the front row. I just can't watch this without that. - You know where there also needs to be more disapproving gays on that horrible show that they didn't cast us on? - Oh, yeah, those are approving gays who work out and have spray dance. God bless them. - So the thing is with Bethany on her grand return, it's like I don't hate her-- - I'm not gonna fight you, I feel like I'm gonna fight you. - You might-- - Oh, I've missed this. I'm just gonna be quiet over here, get my nails cleaned. - I haven't loved her so far because I feel like she's very aware of her persona, and she's sort of saying things to live up to his persona, or it's like she's a little too Bethany, if that makes sense. - Did you understand that? - Ben, you're not gonna get her, you know, when she would be best friends with Jill and Jill's mom, and they were going off to Hampton, having a girl's weekend in season one. Like that shit has failed, so you need to be okay with it. - I hate her, I hate Bethany. Hate her, I couldn't watch her shows. I can't deal with this bitch. She's obnoxious, she's rude, she thinks she's above everybody else, she won't stop talking, like shut up. - Oh, really? And they both talk about-- - She doesn't have a look at it at the-- - Yeah, because I can't go then, they can't come here, I mean, I don't understand it, why can't I just like shut the fuck up and make your orange juice while you're putting out your products, bitch, please. - It used to be, it used to be that she was the voice of reason on this show, and she still does have that perspective a lot of the times, but there is, I do feel like there's a undercurrent of arrogance now that makes it not as enjoyable. I'm not saying I hate her, I'm just saying the arrogance really annoys me, you know, especially 'cause there's some people right now, there's some people on there now who I feel like are filling the Bethany role better than Bethany is currently doing. - Oh my gosh, I am going to fight you guys so hard right now. - I feel-- - Can I tell you, there is nobody worse than Heather. She and Kristen are fucking dead weight and they need to go away. - Just a second, wait, two things. I wasn't saying that Heather fulfilled that rule, I think it's Carol and even Derinda, but I think that Heather, you used to love Heather, you were Team Heather all the way. I was Team Heather until the middle of her second season and then she is, I mean, I'm sorry, she's doing nothing right now, but stirring the pot in a terrible way and I hope Bethany rakes that bitch across-- - Bethany will. - Bethany will destroy her. Although Heather is like no slouch, Heather can be like, when someone comes for Heather, she does not retire away from that. - No, she loves it, she goes and starts lecturing them like they're five years old. I fucking love when she's gonna start doing that with Bethany, she's like-- - I'm sorry, but like during those-- - You're so on flea. - Anybody, it is so demeaning and hey, mama. I'm like, anything that starts with hey, mama from her, I'm like, I'm ready to stab that bitch. - Hey, mama. - They went to that. - This is so fly, mama, I'm Audi 5,000. - When they went to that Mexican luncheon, it was Luquan and Bethany and Heather and then Heather kept yammering on and on and on and you can hate Bethany all you want, even though you're crazy for doing that. When Bethany like snapped at her like, yeah, we're done with this conversation. I loved it because Heather won't shut the fuck up about shit that nobody cares about. - Yeah, but why can't she just say, listen, I don't want to talk about Ramona, I'm here with you girls having lunch. That'll be fine, I've known Ramona for years. - She said that seven times. - No, she looks at her quiet. - She's the other down in a nasty way, I'm sorry, like I get it, she was right, but like in the past-- - I don't care, it's a conversation disgusting, I can't with this, I can't with this conversation anymore. - No, it's disgusting, I'm bored right now, I'm sorry, I'm bored. - But then Heather says, oh, don't shoot the messenger, I wanted Bethany to sort of shoot her. - And also you didn't bring a message, so you're not the messenger. - Bethany, what does Heather defend, Ramona? - Heather is desperate for a storyline, Heather is desperate. - Yeah, I'll tell you the storyline is Kristen because she is seeming so irrelevant right now, she's like not in anything. - I know, she's always like, oh there she is, walking out with her thick glasses on, just waking up, like what are you reading? - Unless she decides-- - Don't talk about the de-yes effects. - She's like, oh my gosh, I've got to decide to double this. Unless she decides to divorce her husband, she has no storylines, that's all I'm gonna say. - Yeah, there are too many women on this show, Kristen is definitely gonna get dropped, unless something happens. - Well, what's your guy's take on Derinda and her disgusting boyfriend who looks like the woman who was on botch that had his face filled with some injection? - I love Derinda, I love her. I love her, you got to get off the phone, I mean, why don't we not even come to lunch? I mean, get off the phone, I'll tell him. Listen, wear it lunch, and I'm just saying, it's rude. I mean, why even come to lunch? Why not just stay home? Just stay home if you're gonna do that. I don't need this, I don't need this. We're eating a salad. I love Derinda. - She's like, what's the point of dating Paul Savino if I can't even talk to him at lunch? - So wait, you guys love Derinda despite the fact that she's-- - She's racist too, it's like, oh, by the way, I called you over here to help me because of your shirt color. No, because of your skin color, you racist bitch. - Yeah, I don't call that racism. I call that like rich white lady ignorance. - Yeah, but you know your racism should be like, I hate black people, I think that ignorance is like, I thought the black guy was a waiter because we're in a place that's fancy. I mean, that's tacky and rude and gross, but I don't know, racist. - You gotta hand it to her because when she talked about it in the confessional, rather than, I mean, she did try to like, squirm out of it by saying it was the shirt, but rather than just being like, I love black people, she then decided to give further evidence of her being an awful person. And she's like, well, one time, one time I gave five dollars to a guy in a wheelchair and he's like, I'm a lawyer, I'm going to Starbucks. So I like that she has to say, at least she can like admit like, whoops, like-- It's like, well, he was black in a dress shirt. - I don't know, I'm not sold on her yet, I don't like that she's Team Ramona, which I don't think that she will be Team Ramona for the long haul. - No, which he said, I cannot sit here and listen to these old bitches fight. - I'm like, pie kettle black, you are one of them, so shut the fuck up, one. And number two, I do not like her daughter. - Well, I didn't even pay attention to her during that per scene, I was busy. I was like, it's a lady talking to her daughter who eventually is going to go to college and then we're going to have to watch Derinda Cry about that shit with a bag of Cheetos, no. - I love that there were 20 minutes devoted to this drunk crisis, because that's like, I feel like we've all been in that situation where you're invited to like two events by people who are feuding and then want to go to, you want to go to one more than the other, but if you don't go to the other one, then you are going to be in more shit. And so you have to-- - And it's also, it's also kind of rude, like if you show up to the, when you show up to the first one, you're essentially saying, but I want to end up at the second one where I can stay for a longer time. - Well, but the thing is, they wanted to be at Bethany's Law. It's funny that they-- - I know, yeah. - It's funny that they started at Bethany's, 'cause what they should have done was done the Ramona's, but Ramona would have freaked out more if they left. So by them showing up at the end of Ramona's, it was like a passive aggressive thing. And then they were blaming Ramona and Derinda almost like, why are you leaving so soon? I mean, we just got here. - Yeah, I like that Derinda doesn't sit around for that shit. She's like, I've been here for now and a half. I didn't need, I'm leaving, bye. Bye, Mr. Jetson. I'm having this space to come away. I don't need this. I love her, and the thing, like here's another Bethany thing. They go to Bethany's brunch, she has this lovely spread, and it's all skinny girl everywhere. Shut up, Bethany, we get it. We know that you have skinny girl, no one cares. It's like the only reason she came back was to hawk that shit. - That's why I like Carol, because Carol is the one. - That's part of her contract. - Well, she can hawk it? Yeah, but do you need to be that obvious? Like, just being on TV is the only one of us. - You can find, you can say that all you want, but then why did all those bitches walk out with 17 gift bags full of her shit? - I would too, they're smart. - Yeah, because I mean, that's why I loved Carol, because Carol was like the place of shrink-wrapped and skinny girl. Like Carol was sort of calling her out on it. And then Carol has the brains to then take the most expensive thing, which is the pleasure. - Yeah, it's basically like, they're being called to show up at some event to get somebody else publicity, so they should be taking free shit and there should be gift bags. Like if it's gonna be a target opening, you best give me some lipstick. - What did you think, Matt, about when Star Jones had like her entire wedding paid for by sponsors? - Well, I think all those sponsors were idiots because Star Jones was marrying a gay man. - But like the thing is that like a lot of people were like, ugh, like that was, it's like deplorable because you're basically whoring out your wedding, right? Now this isn't a wedding, but it's kind of like, you know, when you feel like she's basically using this as a giant promotional campaign, it's like, it's annoying. It's like, no, we're here to watch you fight. - Look, I will take, as long as I have Bethany back, if that means I have Bethany girl in the back of every one of her scenes, I don't give a shit. Like it's not that bothersome to me. And if those girls wanna go to brunch at her house, they should expect it. - Well, they do now. - I'm sure if they show up anywhere with Bethany, they're gonna expect that shit. - I mean, you can think about it. - I hate this bar, it's disgusting, but I did bring some skinny girl for the bartender. Okay, put this behind the bar. And I'm like, shut up. - He's like, I don't brunch. I don't brunch. That's not what I do. I don't like to brunch as a verb. I don't like to do that as she has a giant brunch that she set out. Although one of our listeners, gosh, you know, our listeners are, they hear every, they pick up on every little thing. And one of our listeners was like, was calling out Bethany for like recycling her lines. Apparently Bethany made that whole, that brunch spiel. She said that in a previous season. - Yeah, half of her rants don't even make sense. She's like, what does that mean? It's like a fake hand job. I mean, what is that? That doesn't even make sense in context of what you're talking. What are you talking about? Stop talking. I think that that girl has a really strong Adderall prescription that keeps her from eating and making any kind of sense. - This time of year is busy. Family obligations, holiday parties, travel, relaxation might fall to the bottom of your priority list. You guys, you need to take time to relax and you need to be somewhere where there's soft white sand healing crystal blue water cloudless skies. We know where that place is. - Aruba shake off any cold weather blues and enjoy the islands invigorating sunshine. Aruba has the most sunny days anywhere in the Caribbean. - I promise you, this trip is going to be at least 10 times better than the trip to Aaron's Hampton's home on Real Housewives of New York, but that doesn't take much. I mean, it doesn't even compare. Aruba is a geeky gorgeous. - Please always choose Aruba over Aaron's home. 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I will give you that and she admitted unless we're half in the club that it wasn't necessarily the best use of words. But you have to admit that Jason Hoppy does not deserve to live in that fucking, you know, gorgeous Tribeca townhouse that they built. Like, he does not deserve to be there. - Well, hey, after Bill Skinny Girl, we saw in the season where she built it that he helped her every step of the way and even drove around in the car to get it put in. I mean, he was actually acting in a relationship. He really won a, oh, fine, he deserves $5 million, not to live in that $20 million place. And if you really want to take a step back, the person that helped her with the fucking logo was Alex McCord. - Oh, you know that she's going to be talking that on Cafe Momster or whatever. Hi, this is Alex. Here is my recap of this week's Real Housewives in Beverly Hills Girls. Are you excited? - She's down in Australia now, actually. I hope maybe she'll cross over, maybe she'll appear on Real House as a Melbourne. - Oh my God. - She's too well. - Oh my God, that'll be the best thing ahead of her. - I'm almost sad she wasn't there on the Philippines trip because you saw the way those women's hair reacted to the humidity. And we know Alex is here. You have a glass of water nearby in her hair is all sorts of frizzy. - And you also know that no matter where Alex lives now, she's living across a really long bridge that people have to travel to to get to her. You know, she's just like making her new life's friends a pain in the ass too. - They're like, why doesn't she live in two rock like everyone else? - So what else? - Let's talk about a few other meals. We have the special Ramona Luan meal. And I love that as soon as Luan walks into Ramona's house, she goes, God, it's been here. Yeah, it's been such a long time since I've been here. And Ramona's like initial response is, oh, you want to go there? - And then there's like a flat back. - Yes. - Wow. - You got to admit that the flashbacks are amazing when Bethany had like a really bad hairline and Jill was in the mix. Like, I love these flashbacks. - The flashbacks have been-- - How could it look exactly the same? - Exactly the same. I mean, this season, the flashbacks have been amazing. And then they had Ramona, like talking about how she's dating again. She's like, you know, well, you know, I'm just renewed. I'm just dating again. And she's like, you know, I had no idea. I had no idea. I mean, Mario, there's something wrong with him. He's ill. I don't know. - He's ill, it's middle aged crisis. And you know, that goes on for five years. I can't be right for that. Like Mario's asking her to wait around. He's like, babe, this will last five years. Just wait. She's like, oh, but our relationship was so special. I mean, I know everybody says that about their relationship, but auth was really special. - It was so special. It only started going bad in the past six months, then cut to Luan being like, it's been shitty for four years. She's like-- - And then they showed the great flashback of them going to like the Palm Reader in 2011. And then Luan being a bitch. And Luan being the bitch that she is that I love. And the confession was like, yeah, we all knew it back then. - We all knew it. I love that. Luan was even a bitch during this. Ramona's like, I can't believe we just talked. Like real people. This was amazing Luan. I'm so glad to get to talk to you. And Luan's like, yeah, we'll see. We'll see about that. - Yeah, I'm giving people over the walk where you guys keep talking. - You know what I love about New York's? And I know I'm preaching to the converted because you and I both love New York the most. What I love is the pedigree of great characters on the show. I mean, if you don't count like, what's your face? - The Quag Lady. What was her name? - The Bajaswar? - Yeah, the Bajas. I'm blanking on her name. But like, when you-- - Cindy, Cindy. - Cindy Bar Shop, yeah. When you look back on all the characters, I mean, when you look back at Jill Zarin or Alex McCord or Kelly Ben-Simone, Bethany, although now Bethany is back. If you look back, this show, I think more than any of the others in the franchise, has had the most colorful and interesting characters. Like every woman has at some point brought something, like, and really brought something. - One hundred and 10% agree with you. I mean, you can go through every other cast and pick out like the duds here and there. But like you said, with Cindy Bar Shop aside, like this cast is, and now Kristen sucks. But like, New York really is robust and I'm so glad, you know, the Countess is back in full force. We all truly believe the three of us that the Countess, even though she wasn't an official cast member last year, was just as big a part as everybody else. And I'm glad that she's back in the mix. But I would like to point out a few things. And I know that you love her as much as I do, but she already has, in the first three episodes, pulled as Bethany would say, a few like, slithery, snaky things, because those girls used to fight. - Oh yeah, she wins, bringing a lot of bitchery to this season. - That's the thing. - That's like Ramona, she's like, I'm glad you feel, I mean, you know, you've got to feel better, darling. But you know, I saw him on Tinder. - She's like, doesn't that make you mad? Don't you want to be mad about that? Do you want to cry? - Well, isn't that kind of like, so what's your guys take on that? Is that funny? Because we love Luann and she can get away with that? Or is it evil? - It's evil, but it's funny. And Ramona deserves every bit of shit she gets from anybody. 'Cause she's been awful. - Never forget what Alex McCord said about Luann. She's a thug in a cocktail dress. - Oh yeah. - No, Luann, what a great quote. - But that's the thing, that's what I'm talking about, is that like, I mean, Kristen actually brought a good amount of drama, like sort of annoying drama last year, but I actually liked, I generally liked Kristen last year. Kristen's more like a-- - Why Ben, the only, when I think back, all I can think about is her crying, trying to run two miles in the mud. Like, she doesn't-- - I'm not even getting context. I have very strong opinions about that. I was actually on Kristen's side during that. But, I mean, sure she's whiny, but she brought it. But I think what I really like about these women is that, like, you know, a lot of other housewives, franchises, there are, there have been real housewives who have started fights, who get in, who get angry at each other, whatever. But with these women, it's more than just that they get into fights. It's that they really have very distinct personalities. I mean, Luann is one of a kind. Ramona is one of a kind. Alex, whether you liked her or not, was one of a kind in her own weird way. Jill was one of her kind, Bethany obviously. - Same personia. - So, yeah, sorry, yeah. - Same personia. - Even a Viva. I mean, we hate a Viva, but a Viva wasn't one. I mean, it's Carol. You know, they are just very distinct, and they're all, they dress better than everyone else. By a landslide. - Okay, so I'm gonna talk again about Luann being kind of evil. And this is kind of a segue into discussing the hottest club in all of New York, which is very best thing to go to. Booty. - I think they're so bad. - Booty means in French, old people still fuck too. - Spell B-A-U-T-I-Q-U-E. - Boom. - So what is your guys' take on when Luann told Bethany that she randomly bumped into Kelly, and Kelly ended up becoming part of their girl's night cocktail party? Like, is that real or is that completely fabricated? - I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, it probably would have been nice if she gave Bethany a heads up. But I also think like, you know what? They're grown women and if Luann wants to invite Kelly, let her invite Kelly, you know? - Okay, so you're asking if it was really, they saw each other at the cocktail party. I think it was real. I think because Luann had a buzz when she showed up, it seemed like she was out somewhere. It wouldn't surprise me if she ran into Kelly. - Yeah. I believe it. - Okay, fine. - And I think that like, I feel like when Bethany and her confessional says, oh my God, Kelly, like me and Kelly, that's so 2000 and who cares? You can't say that and then have an attitude when you are in walking into boutique. You know, I get her attitude. I actually do. I don't begrudge her for having that, but you can't then at the same time act like whatever you're over it. You know what I'm saying? - Yeah, and then just stand at the bar a whole time and not go over. That was so rude. - Oh, please, Luann is just going over and saying a bit. - That's the arrogance, though. - And it's her closest contact in this cat coming back and I feel like Luann should have at least texted her like, oh, shit girl. - Yeah, she should have. - She'll be there. That's all she needed to do. - She should have, but she also didn't need to. You know what I'm saying? Like it would have been-- - It's a countess and it's good. It's great, makes for great TV. - And the producers would probably like, don't do it. - I mean, I'm playing both sides. - Yeah, exactly. - She said, I least said to her, don't worry, we'll text Bethany and let her know. That's actually probably what really happened. - Oh, yeah, that's true, huh? - Yeah, the producers always lie and set these girls up for all sorts of situations. - The most disappointing thing was-- - We need some more about what happened at boutique. - The most disappointing thing about that was that Kelly was so normal. I wanted to see more of crazy. I was hoping that she'd still be on the map. - That was like season two, Kelly, before she revealed her craziness, which all she'd do was show up place and go, "Hi, guys." - Yeah. - "Hi, my kid's 16, can you believe it?" Wow. - "C is 16." - Yeah, yeah, I think Bethany needs to interact more. It's gonna be boring. Now, on to the better parts, oh my God, those women, and I love that Luann knows the sex club, and that there's a secret room that you go into to hook up, what the hell, man? - They all knew it, and I gotta tell you, it gave me such delicious flashbacks to Luann fucking the Johnny Depp pirate lookalike when they were on vacation a few years ago, because guess what, that girl is a freak, and she does not, she is single now, she does not give a fuck. - Oh yeah, the rumor about her, that she was getting so mad about when Ramona started bringing it up, was that she's in an open marriage, or she wasn't in an open marriage, and they would bring people in, and she's a sexual woman. - Well, she is part of Native American, and she likes to wear her turquoise, and she's down with the earth, and being sexual, and I don't mind that, I just love that she and Sonya both know the dark corner in boutique, where people get their bang on. - Yeah, and I think that she went off with that guy, she's like, "I'm going to the ladies room," and are you really, she's like, "Hmm, I don't know," and she walks off. - She just went out there and like, "Fuck that guy," and I'm like, "You have a blow job in the back room," and it's like, "Really, you guys, this is like a gay bar?" Congratulations straight people, you now are as bad as we are, okay? - You know what, God bless them, because you know what, Luann got a hot, young guy, and the guy got like a hot, you know, cougar, and same for Sonya. - Okay, why was that German model talking to Sonya? She is disgusting. - Hello, hookers, hookers in bars with rich old ladies, what do you think that bar is made for? It's ugly old men with young women and old women with young men. I mean, that's what it is. - Yeah, you know, Sonya is diluted, Sonya is crazy, Sonya lives in her own world. The one thing that Sonya is not is disgusting, she looks fantastic. - Oh, who said she's disgusting? - If you're into beef, okay. - Yeah, if you're into Howard the Duck, yeah, she does have a very Howard the Duck. - I think that's Sonya. But I still, I mean, I like her, you know. - She looks great. - I think she looks great. - I think she's a crazy lady, but I think she looks great. - Yeah, but that-- - I am kind of concerned that, I'm kind of concerned that like at the brunch, they were all kind of, I don't know if I'm concerned or excited, but that Bethany feels like Sonya might be her project makeover for the season, 'cause that is not gonna go well. - Yeah, that's gonna be a total disaster. - They're all turning on Bethany. They're all gonna turn on her this season. She's gonna become like the villain. - No, they're gonna turn on Sonya. They're setting up the-- - Well, they're setting it up, but I think, like from what I've read while the season was filming, it seems like they're gonna turn on her, because the cast kept mentioning how all she wanted to do was show up like for promotional events for herself. Like, anything she wanted to do had to have, you know, a ton of her product in it. And I think that-- - Well, the new girls are gonna-- - That's gonna be annoyed really quickly with her. - I think the new girls are gonna turn on her. As evidenced by the fact that Bethany says, oh, I like these new girls, they're cool, cool people. Very easy, cool. I'm like, okay, they're gonna hate each other by the end of the season. - And it's kind of offensive when she's like, oh, I like these girls. I mean, they're kind of nice. They're kind of normal. I mean, what the heck? Oh, thanks. Thanks for doing so normal. - It's obvious. - He's a blender. - All right. - It's obvious that Heather is gonna have a beef with Bethany, and she has her troupe. She's gonna be like, "Radsy and I didn't like that. "Radsy and I." Hey, mama, what do you think about Bethany? - Well, actually, I actually think it's going to test Carol. I mean, because Carol obviously, you know, chimed in with, you know, kind of throwing a little shade at Bethany at the beginning, but I also think that she knows that Bethany is one of the stars of the show, and if Heather's on the downslope and Bethany's on the lies, I don't know if that might test Carol a bit. - I don't think so, 'cause you know, Carol's in a unique position, almost like Lisa Renee, where she's got enough success going on in her life, and she kind of doesn't give a fuck. So if she starts to find-- - Excuse me, who has success going on in her life? - Carol, she's got her successful books. She's leading us, she already-- - Are you talking about, are you, excuse me, are you talking about Carol who has not written a book in a hundred years, and her editor was like, "Bitch, where the fuck is from pages?" - All right, I just want to say-- - And this new opening tagline is, "All I want to do is play and not work." - I still, listen, the point is, Carol's got, I think Carol's got money. I don't think she-- - Well, she was a process, she's got money from that. I mean, I don't know about personal successes, but that marriage was a personal success. - I just don't think Carol cares. I think she's on this, she just is in, she enjoys this process. I think she finds it to be fun, and she's not gonna bow down to Bethany. I think if she sees Bethany being a prima donna, she's gonna call Bethany out, and she won't care. - Yeah, but she won't fight 'cause Carol doesn't do it. - Well, I actually think that's a way to-- - That's a way to-- - But also, you're right, that's probably the way to play this show, like, go in and not give a fuck and have as much fun as you possibly can. - Well, Carol also, like, she says some things that are gonna get her in trouble, but she also says things that are so funny that she's so unself-aware, or self-unaware. Like, when they were that slutty old lady bar, and she was like, "It's fun going out with the girls and seeing how they act. "It's like being at a zoo and seeing how they act." - It's like, "Bitch, please, you're out there dancing, too. "What do you think you're like 20 years old "in a bikini, get out of here. "You do the same thing." And you're also trying to fuck your-- - You have a 20-year-old cook. - Get out of here. - Exactly. - But she is-- - She is touching this 20-year-old cook, and God bless her. You know, and I can understand why she thought it was a zoo because the big gorilla, AKA Dorinda's boyfriend, walked in, and if it didn't smell like a farm yard before then, then it certainly did after. - Oh my God, with his, like, 22-year-old Russians. Oh, no, girl. That is not good. And I love that they show in the previews for next week, Dorinda ripping him a new one. She's like, "You better back it up, mister. "You better back it up, fuck up, "or I'm gonna shove it down your throat." I'm like, "Okay." - Yeah. - Now, I want to check. Wait, come over here. - Ma'am, I don't actually work here. I'm just a black gentleman walking through. - Yeah, sorry. - All right, then. Could you sing something, then? (laughing) Could you dance for me, then? - Run, stereotype. I bet you taste good on pancakes. - Let's get that Mexican over there to clear this table. - I'm actually dining here as well. - I'm so sorry. - But could you still bring me some water? - I'm so sorry about that. - So let's see what else here. Brunch, the apartment ambush. We already discussed all of this. Mario's not well, the psychic, Dorinda. - What did we miss, anything from us? God, why did I take some? - The Ramona, Ramona actually looked hot as fuck. And when she showed up at boutique, she looked great. I gotta say, like-- - She did. - I thought they all looked great. - Good meetings are making her look great. - I thought she looked great. I actually thought Carol looked great, too. - Well, you know. - Yeah. - You know. Okay. - What do you think it smelled like in boutique? - Ew. Okay, it's probably smelled like oval chain spilled vodka and urine. - I think it smelled like used flip flops and egg whites. - Why egg white? - It just does. I can't explain it. It's just the way boutique smells. - I think it smells like that weird powder that old ladies on the street put on. You know how they put on that weird, they all smell the same 'cause they wear like some weird old lady powder. I don't know what it is, but there's that definite smell. So I think it smells like that and probably like peanut that hasn't been cleaned up from like just people spilling. - I feel like it's-- - I feel like it's gonna have a spill of something more than you now. - I think it smelled like a hamster cage that needs to be cleaned and macaroni balls that have been in the fryers for too long. - I think-- - I think it smells like winter green syrup, blood, and wet dog. (both laughing) - I think it smells like a pizzeria at the end of the night mixed with a library. - I think it smells like moth balls and Febreze. - I think it smells like a Vachosil Windex and yeah, Vachosil and Windex. - I think it smells like a school bus, meat, a Caesar salad. (both laughing) - Oh, good old smells like. - Yeah. - I had to bring it back if Matt was here. - So what do we have next? - Well, we have to talk about shots. - We have to talk about shots of sunset and dead Pablo in the freezer and MJ chasing GG around with a dead dog. - Wait, that's what boutique smells like, dead Pablo in the freezer. (both laughing) - And flighters. - Yeah. (both laughing) - I wanna write down the lyrics to the Shah's theme. What are they? It's like, got a lot of girls, cut a lot of checks. - Okay, you know what's funny? So that, the Shah's theme song was a song that was on the radio for like two seconds and I loved the song. I actually bought the song off of iTunes and I loved it. - No. - And then it came out on this show and I was like, oh. (both laughing) - It sounds like, it sounds like one of those songs. I'm gonna take this back. It sounds like one of those songs that they were asked to create a challenge on platinum hit starring Cara Diaguardi and Julie. - Yes, and Cara would've been like, oh my God, that song is so what Sunset Boulevard is about. - Excuse me, it went there with Paula Abdul in 1993. She slept on my piano. - That is a testament to the song being good 'cause they actually turned out some good music on that show and the poor show was just like. - Oh, I totally downloaded like seven songs from platinum hit. That is how pathetic I am. - It was, loved that show. - Wow. (both singing) - You heard. (both singing) If you heard the full version of the Shah's theme song and actually the version I have is like a pre, I think an IP claim because they sampled "We Love LA" by Randy Newman, but then if you listen to that, if you download it now, they took out all the "We Love LA" stuff and put in like a different kind of hook. So if you heard the full thing, you would agree. It's a good song, but like so many things in LA that have been touched by the Shah's, it's been ruined. Okay, you guys wanna hear the lyrics? One for the money, two for the show, hit the Louis store right on Rubey. - On the day yo. - White SL, the color of yay yo, passed the cup to my girl and told her to sip slow. This my show, "Watch me baby, the way I go can't stop me baby." Seatbelt beside me baby, LA just drives me crazy. We could float through the city night. I'm drunk and you're looking real, pretty tight. Make love, I ain't for the fight. Not once, we can go 'til we get it right. - Oh good. - I'm overseas. Since then, so I guess you're on the boulevard. - She wants sex on the beach. - Sex on the beach. - We can share. It's only fair, I've got paradise on call. - It's a good song. - It's paradise on call. It's a good song, I'm telling you, trust me. - Well it has, oh my God. And they even say, "Met her at Ledoux." And she do love sex. - It's definitely, it's a time capsule from my 2006. It's about buying glam on Melrose. It's like all of that shit. - It's like a time capsule. - Right, and by the way, like for those of you who don't live in LA. - I'm sorry, I was gonna say it's like a Pablo time capsule from 2006. Like remember when I got Pablo when we were legit. - If you guys want to hear another thing, okay, this is another thing that will undermine be saying it's a good song. After I had download this song and listened to it like a hundred times, I then did some research on this artist. I forget who it is. And the artist manager was none other than Spencer Pratt. - Oh God. - You want to know why then there you go. - That's why it has one star on lyrics.net. - But you know what though, can I say something else? When Heidi came out with, she had that, she remember Heidi had her music career and she had all these laughable songs. But one of her songs, I actually liked. And it was a song called Fashion. I was like, you know what, this is actually a good song. It's just sung by Heidi. So no one's gonna take it seriously. And sure enough, guess what? It was a Lady Gaga song and then Lady Gaga released it. And then all the gays were like, "Oh my God, we love this song fashion." And I'm like, well, guess what? Heidi sang it first and I was a champion of it then. I don't care if it was a Heidi song. And I don't care if the song that I love is on Shah's. I was managed. - I'm sure I'm not the first person to say that Heidi is no Lady Gaga. - Yeah. No, I agree. It's not Lady Gaga did a much better version. I'm just saying that, you know, sometimes people are like, "Ugh, this is a terrible song." And then someone else sings. And I'm like, "Oh, it's a great song." - Heidi was probably just walking around the house like, ♪ Fashion, I love fashion ♪ This bench is like, let's sell it. Let's sell it. Anything that comes off of you, let's sell it. Put it on eBay, Heidi. Are you wearing those shoes? Let's put it on eBay, Heidi. - Oh, they're so gross. Last I read they were living as this parent's basement. - That by the way, that's actually the lyric of the song. ♪ Fashion, put it all on me ♪ - Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. - Oh, Lord people. - Okay, so let's get into the show. - It opens with Asa making herself a chickpea shake. - Yeah. - Okay, can we talk about how? - I know that we've talked about this from the beginning, but how does Asa live in a mansion in Venice, and her parents live in a shit shack in like, I don't even know a receipt. - She's a Persian pop princess, baby. - Yeah, she deserves it. She has like totally visualized all of this into her life. First, she thought of her father's wallet, and then she thought of her mother's purse, and she thought real hard, and it caused her hand to go into them and take enough money for a $10,000 a month car in a mansion. - And then she projected video images on her face, and I was like, it's art. - She's like, can I have this lease? I need to project images of the bed I want to buy onto it. - I'm gonna put a plastic diamond on top of a bottle of water and sell it. - Yeah, I haven't seen that at Whole Foods yet, sorry. - Yeah, I'd like to see a little black water. - I was about to say, let's see some synergy, and they get some black water in that diamond water. - I have a feeling Asa has a deal with Bravo, where you know how Bravo rents homes for the people on their shows, while they're on the show, so they don't have to use their own house. I have a feeling she lives in like, the guest room at her mom's apartment in East Hollywood, and only while she's filming does she have these huge homes in Mala-- - It's called Airbnb, that's what it is, Airbnb. - Airbnb, yeah. - Yeah, a little Airbnb action-telling. - Yeah, so Chef Benny, quickly, Canada's Airbnb. We need polygrams. - So, Asa, MJ, and Reza get bit bits. - Okay, yes. - Bits, which, I mean, really? - Can we talk about Reza's marriage and the counselor? - Yeah, let's just skip to that. - Yeah, go ahead, you talk for-- - Because I have a feeling, look, we know that the show, the editors went on strike or something like that, so the show was supposed to air at the end of 2014, and so we're really behind. But can you guys fill me in? Did Reza actually marry Adam? I think that that actually happened at the end of last year. - Oh, I don't know, I don't think it happens. - Because I mean, they're setting it up on the show. They're setting it up on the show right now is like, I think Reza was just saying to the counselor, like, it's 30 days until my wedding, and I'm talking to you because I don't have sex with my boyfriend, and it's just kind of like, is Reza gonna pull the plug on Adam right before the wedding? - This is a classic bravo thing. When a character doesn't really have a story and there's like a wedding coming up, there was like, oh, I know, how about we make them their sex life be questionable, and then we don't know if the wedding's gonna happen. I mean, we saw this with Joanna Krupa and Romaine Lettis. I mean, this is what bravo always trots out, the story line like, "Oh, the sex isn't good, and I know I'm fat and everything, but like, I need to have some passion." In other words, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I don't know, Homeboy, my cheat on Homeboy. It's like you'd rather look at porn than my big fat naked hairy body. It's crazy. Who would do that? - Maybe you need to put the foot bit on and stop wondering why... It would stop wondering why. I'll just stop there. That's enough. Speaking as a fat hairy person, I should probably just stop there. - Speaking of... - I mean, I rely on porn to get people to have sex with me. I'm like, "Hey, you want to watch your golden girls?" And it's porn. Like, whips, do you have a boner? All right, let's do it. Just keep looking at the screen. This will be quick. - They just need to attach a stick to Reza's back with like a Twix bar dangling from it, and then he'll get into shape. And by the way, this is coming from someone who that would work for me too. - Here's something I wanted to ask you guys as homos. When he was talking about Adam's sexual behavior on the internet, and he's like, "Yeah, but then when I look at his computer and there's all these files, and then there's all these sites, and then you type in A and then you get these sites, and you know, he's like looking at free-balling videos. Free-balling. Free-balling is where you don't wear underwear, and you walk around in jogging pants. Is that a fetish? - It is, yeah. And in fact, I want to say it. - Yes, it is. - Can I tell you something? In the past two days in a row, I've totally seen guys in our neighborhood. If not free-balling, they definitely had boners in their gym shorts, and they were grabbing them. I couldn't even believe it. There was a guy at the cops shop. - Right, so totally, so Ben and I, for those of you who don't know, and new listeners, Ben and I live on the exact same street, and down from this hiking mecca called Runyon, and Ben, I am telling you, there are more mesh shorts, songs underwear than ever before. - Yeah, I see a lot of dongs on Runyon. I mean, it's fun. I know it's like a thing that people do, but I didn't know it was a sexual fetish. - It is a fetish, because it's like, I actually think it's like very hot, because it's like, you know, it's like the all about the power of suggestion, you know? - A little bit lord. We're going back to the old. We've had so much porn in our lives that we're just like jerking out, and now we're excited about seeing lines through underwear. - Well, you tell me if you think this is hot. So I was at the coffee shop two days ago, and there was like a straight dude, and he was sort of like muscly, and he was in gym shorts, and he was on his phone. He was looking at his phone, and I saw he was like full on grabbing his crotch. He was waiting for his coffee. I don't think he even realized he was doing it. You know, it was like an involuntary thing, and he was getting a boner. So then I ordered my coffee, so I was standing near him, so I looked at him, I was like, what is on his phone? And he was fully looking at porn. He was looking at Twitter, but like he follows porn stars. He was looking at like, it was like straight porn. Like he was like naked chicks, and he was getting himself over his house, and he didn't even realize, I'm like, dude, like you didn't realize he realized. - This is why, this is why I cannot live in Hollywood anymore. What, Phil, Phil's people. I'm clutching my girls officially. - I would be wanting to move. I want to move out because the fucking homeless people are following me home. Like, look, just because I have a dog does not mean we're best friends, okay? One lady yesterday was like, oh, I know this brown white, this brown and white dog. I'm like, really? 'Cause there's a lot of brown and white dogs. Like, don't follow me home. Get out of here. What do you think's at my house? There's hair flowing out of the floor. - Stop. - It was Kim Richards. - You can admit it. - It was Kim Richards being like, I'm not that brown. - It's Kingsley. It's Kingsley. - I don't want for Christmas is my neighborhood to be what it's supposed to be. It's West Hollywood. It's supposed to be men grabbing their dicks. Now it's the Whole Foods employees in line at Starbucks, and fucking homeless people following me home. Cut it out homeless people and employees at Starbucks. The men grabbing their dicks are now in our neighborhood. - The moral of this story is we're not surprised to hear that Adam would rather look at the point than Reza. - Yes, I know. I mean, who's surprised? You marry for love and then you fuck other people. It's called a gay relationship. You idiot. - Ronnie, stop saying that. - It's true. - It's a little bit of a trap. - I do not know one long term, and I'm saying long term, okay? I don't mean like a couple of years. I mean, like long term. - I've never met a long term gay couple. Well, okay, that's not true. I do know one, but all they do is fight and complain about how they never have sex. But I don't know a long term gay couple that doesn't like open it up, cheat at the gym. - Well, I'm not, I am not about that personally, and I am not about it either. - If my relationship gets to a point where we have to talk about like opening it up, I think the relationship is over. - Oh, really? - I get bigger. - I agree. - I'm not thinking that's why I'm never in one. I just get bored. - I'm also too much of a hypochondriac. I'm like, I'm like, no. - It doesn't count if it's in the steam room, Ben. It's very clean. They've just taken a shower. Then they take another shower. - It's hot enough that it kills the germs. - Yeah. - I am, I'm not about that. And Ben, I'm on the same page. I'm on the same page. - Well, I never have been, but these days, I'll date somebody for like three dates. And I'm like, oh, again, I've already seen it. - Well, I think that's, it's different than when you meet someone that you-- - You know what? - Connect with. - You should try, you should try seeing it in some mesh basketball shorts. - Yeah. Yeah, how about that? Why don't you, why don't you come over to Hollywood and look at these guys? Because then yesterday, there was another guy on the street and this, this guy is actually someone who I have Ubered before. He was my passenger once. And he didn't remember who I was, but he's like, actually like this like tall, very handsome guy. And he mess shorts, same thing. He was staying in the corner and he was like lost in his own thoughts. And he had, he was grabbing his dick and he got a full on boner. And I was like, oh, wow. I was like, this is crazy. - You're making me want to hike. And also, you walked up to him and said, hey, I was your Uber driver? - No, I didn't say that. I just said I recognized him. - Oh, because when he said he didn't remember me, I was like, oh my God, please tell me you didn't go after that guy. Like, I drove you on Uber once. - No, no, because no, the thing is he was, he had just moved here from France and we had this whole conversation and he lives just a building wave floor. He lives just a building wave from Matt. He's your neighbor. - Live for song. Live for song, how I love this for song. - So he was like, oh. - Does he live in the building with Ashley from Real Housewives of New Jersey? Who's my next door neighbor? - No, the other direction. - Other side, okay. - So, no, because at the time, because we're talking about, because, you know, obviously I was like, oh, well, we're neighbors, et cetera. And he's like, oh, if I see you around the neighborhood, you know, I'll say hi, whatever. And I've seen him like a million times since then. He doesn't say hi, which is fine. I don't need him to say hi. But that's why I know that he doesn't remember me. - Oh, he doesn't want to remember me. - Oh, bam. - So, one, two, three, two, three. - Bam, bam, bam, don't need him. - So back to the shaws, back to the shaws of Sunset. Let's talk more about MJ and her dog. The best part of that was not just the MJ's dog died and she was sobbing because that was sad, but that she put him in the freezer and wrapped him up and she's going to get him like stuffed or whatever. The best part for me was Gigi. How stupid of a person is this? Wait, did you get like a special kind of ice? - What special kind of ice is that? - Like some freezer. - Ronnie, dead people and dead dogs have to be in like sub zero, not like... - Oh, sub, please. - Please, hot dog will freeze, anything will freeze. I've got some chicken in their freezing. It's still fine the next day. Get over it. - Well, I don't know why she didn't immediately take the dog Pablo someplace. Was it Pablo or was it Julio who died? - 'Cause there weren't cameras there. - Pablo died. - Well, the funny thing to me was... - That's a good point. - When MJ said he's in the freezer, I was like, okay, now this is getting scripted. It's some silly bullshit. They're trying to be funny. And then she's like, no. And she actually brings him out. I was like, ooh. - You know a reality star when they save their dog in the freezer so they can use it for a scene on taping day. I mean, that's sad. - Yeah, I know. Fuck, I mean, I was also eating dinner and then I was like, they're not going to show the dog at all. That's just impossible. That's just wrong. And then she pulls back and you see the dog's face and I'm like spitting up hummus. - All of them, I know. - Yeah, exactly. Spad up Auss's hummus milkshake. - Because, by the way, I do eat hummus when I watch shawds. I mean, it's like a ritual for me. - Yeah, I'm just so stupid. 'Cause during that first scene, I wrote down milkshake because I was like, no wonder this bitch is fat. She's probably one of those people who's like, I'm making a healthy milkshake. And it's like got chickpeas and like really high calorie stuff in it. - Check this out. - I can't hold her up. - You're like, what is this crazy way? - That's like chickpeas and olive oil and hedonian lemon juice and garlic. What a crazy milkshake. I'll tell him this, Ronny. - I was on a date a few weeks ago and we were gonna go to Swinger on Beverly. I'm gonna sound like the Californians right now. And it was too crowded. So we were like, oh, it's late. It's Sunday night. I don't know where to go. There's nothing open. So we ended up going to cantors. And I'm sitting at cantors and in walk, Asa and Reza. And by the way, in real life, they are both humongous and they started to move next to me. But I was leaving before I could see what they ordered, but she was wearing like a skin tie dress in sky high heels. And I just know that there was like a double, you know, at least a double stack of pancakes on the way. - You know that they ordered pancakes and anything else made with potatoes. They're like, we have a blender. - Yes, can we have a blend? - We'll have that. We'll have the Monte Cristo, please. Extra double fried. - So I have to say, you know like how every celebrity is really in real life, tiny? They're not tiny. - So how do the cameras do it? Do you think they use different lenses on the shaws? Because Mike looks like huge. - No, Mike looks like he's three feet tall. - Mike looks short to me. - But facially huge. Like his face is wide. - Oh, with faces super wide. Oh, did you also love when they brought the fifth over? And Asa was like, "Yeah, I'm 170 pounds cut to MJ. I'm a professional going to shoot lines." - Yeah, that's a little vida coming out in MJ. - Girl, your purse is under so many pounds. - I thought also, you know what I didn't like, I hated that stupid scene where Mike's in his office. And then Jessica walks in with like, you know, parade of planners. I was like, "This could not be more scripted." He's like, "Hey, honey, I'm working here. I guess you have no respect for that." And she's like, "Well, we have to plan our wedding now." I'm like, "Oh, this is so ridiculous." - We're on the same page, right? But Jessica is the worst. - Oh, yes, she's awful. - And she's fucked up her face too. - But he deserves no better. - Yeah, he's awful too. - 100% agree with you. I mean, so in this episode also was, you know, he and Reza were having lunch and it was kind of awkward because it all goes back to the fight. And, you know, Mike was so pissed that he feels that people took Gigi's side by not warning him. And, you know, at the end of the day, I think that Mike probably tried to rape Gigi. And Gigi was probably, you know, super drunk and all this stuff. And I just think they're both disgusting. But I don't think that Reza and Austin need to keep apologizing to Mike. - No, I think if anything, what I wish Reza had said was listen, Gigi told us this thing and we were horrified. But then she also said she was going to talk to you about it. So we didn't think we had to say anything because she said she was going to like talk to you about it. And instead, you know, she said it in this way that was so crazy that it made it look like they were there gossiping about it nonstop, which I guess they were. - I'm totally Mike on this one. I think he's totally right. If he knows that someone's going to be saying that on camera and your best friend doesn't tell you that this is coming, that's not good. - No, no, I agree with him. - Here's the thing. - Okay, Jessica is driving a wedge between Mike and his friend. - Well, that's the real crux. I mean, that's the crux right there. - Right, and that's not good for a relationship. I mean, you're supposed to be able to have your significant other and your friends and it should be able to work out, but she clearly dislikes them. And Reza says, you know, Mike says to Reza, oh, well, Jessica thinks you're evil and Reza gets offended by this. And I can understand where Jessica may think that these friends of Mike haven't done necessarily what they should have done. But like next week, Reza confronts Jessica. And I want him to nail her because, you know, if he really thinks that he's disgusting, he is smart. And I just think that Jessica is trash. And if Mike is going to let Jessica feel involved, you know what, the two of you can go off and get married and have a fuck up horrible life. - Well, they've been fighting on Twitter. It's been delicious. - Well, here's my feeling about like Reza and Asa and MJ's obligation to Mike, which is that again, I think that when this pinky swear was first brokered, I think there was this understanding that they told Gigi, like, listen, okay, we won't say anything, but you have to go talk to Mike and confront him. And she's like, yeah, I'll do that. She doesn't do it. So then it's bad, then they're caught in the middle because then they look like they're like taking a side when all they were doing was like, okay, we're going to stay out of it, but you've got to squash this. And now it looks really bad. That being said, Reza had a really good point though with Mike when Mike was like, you're supposed to be my best friend, we're like brothers. And he's like, well, when was the last that you moved to the West Side? When did you, have you even invited us to your new house? You've never invited us to your new house? Yeah, that's what I think the problem is, is that Mike dumped his friends and then they're pissed off. And so they're not, you know, Reza's not calling him and telling him, whereas before maybe he would have. But also Mike's memory is really shaky. I like that when he said, man, if this was a year ago, we'd be sitting here laughing. I'm like, actually, no, a year ago he was firing you from his business and calling you a lazy piece of shit on TV every chance he got. - Here we go, Mike. - What do you think Jessica... - Sorry, what's that? - That was a word to me now. - I was just saying that a year ago Mike was also picking advice with Reza. - Yes. - I just want, what was your take though, like, you know, or what does Jessica think when she's at home? 'Cause you know that they're sitting there and watching this and they show the flashback. You know, I live for these fucking flashbacks 'cause it calls these people out and it was drunk and GG and drunk Mike in Bathroom naked and he's leading her into his hotel room. - And I know that that was... - And I think you can't deny that that was happening. - He probably says, he probably says, hey babe, this is all the editing. You know, they're just trying to make me look bad and she probably believes it. - I don't think it makes him look bad at all. He's in a bathrobe, they're wasted and it's in the middle of the night and he's been flirting with her and putting his finger up her ass all night. And then he says, come to my room and she's like, okay, what exactly did she think that he's gonna be doing in a hotel room in his fucking robe? Also, wasn't this a trip where they were talking about his dick all night long? - Jessica's gonna take... - Yeah, and they were like... - I would say Jessica's gonna take Mike's side because she is so invested in the idea of being a wife that she's not gonna like... - Well, Mike's a horned dog anyway. - Yeah. - She's gonna look like a million times. - She's invested in the fact that he's paying for her life. That she's not... - It's easier. - She's on her left to her, she's not gonna leave. She's not leaving in at all. - Well, she's a spooky family member. - It's easier for her to attack GG and blame everything on GG than to assign blame to Mike and jeopardize this entire marriage that she's been working so hard for. - Which is exactly what happened in the past year when Ramona found out that Mario was cheating, Ramona went after the young girl that Mario was getting with as opposed to looking in the mirror and telling her husband, you're cheating on me, you're a piece of shit, you've got to go. This is so fucking typical, and you know, this is exactly what's gonna happen to them. And if she can't see the writing on the wall, and if people, if her friends and family don't wanna, you know, explain this to her now, it's her fucking fault. - Oh yeah, I mean, he's at that party where this fight happened. He's at this like swimsuit party, and he's like, that one's hot, that one's disgusting. Oh, look at her face. Oh God, Indian women are so fucking hot. I mean, he's cruising the party on camera. What the hell, man? I mean, that's like marrying a mob guy, you know? Who said that this week? It was on a Bravo show where they're like, oh, it's like being married to the mob. And you, oh, it was on Housewives of New York, I think. Where it's like big buried to a mob guy where you just think door things are happening. - And I think that's kind of probably what's going on here. That girl wants a ring so bad. - Yeah, and I mean, and I've said this before, I mean, in a certain way, Jessica's right, like Mike's friends are all assholes. But you know, they are all bad people, but she knew that going in, and she also has to respect the fact that they are his friends. You know, she can't, it's like, it's not right that she just says, your friends are all assholes and cut them out of your life. Like that's not really the way it should be, I think, with a partnership. - You were desperate to get on TV and dated some reality guy and even became a Jew for it. So stop your bitch in now that he's actually on it. You're not gonna sit here and watch scenes about you tasting a fucking cake for your all-white wedding, which by the way has been done a zillion times, okay? And you don't want a bunch of Persian spilling shit all over that white. It's gonna look like a fucking Swiffer sweeper by the end of the night. - Yeah. - And it's not like Mike and Jessica are gonna get a spin off like Tamara's OC wedding. So like, let's not pretend that you are enough of a personality to get that. So Mike, if you wanna go off and be with your new fiance, kiss your, you know, cast membership on Shod goodbye because if she's gonna drag you away, now one's really gonna miss your ass. - Yeah, we got Shervin waiting in the wings and he's much more attractive. - Oh yeah, I like Shervin. I could do without this a Sifa chick or Asifah or whatever, get out of here. - Yeah, I did enjoy seeing her family. I thought her, her dad was sort of cute in this like, weird way. But yeah, she's really, Asifah's really worthless and her, and her contrived relationship with Bobby and they're like, like, oh, time to like shower the dog. All these, these like stupid, domestic scenes of pseudo bliss. - Babe, you're watching the dog. Oh yeah, you're friendly doing it. This is gonna work, baby. - She's like, I don't wanna touch it. - She's like, I don't wanna touch it. - Really, if I keep doing your chores, our relationship's gonna work. Get the fuck out of here again. - Yeah. - Well, it was all just so fake. Everything they do is fake. - Well, let's talk about this. - You're making me miss Lily. - Yeah, I do miss Lily. I like Lily. - Let's talk about the most important part of this episode. - Vida playing Tom. - Vida's acting song. Yes. - Wow, that was amazing. - This week has just been tailor-made for me because I'm a ping-pong champion and a tennis champion and I got them in both Beverly Hills and Inshod. - Ooh, are you challenging Vida to a fight? - I think you should champion the world. - I will 100% would. - You have to admit though that that was the best part of the entire episode. And when M.J. says, it makes me so happy to see my mom happy by beating me. - Yeah, yeah, when she's like, my mom came, she wasn't-- - That worked for me in her life. - She wasn't hurtful, she didn't get angry. I was proud of her. It's like all poor things. Although if you were M.J.'s mom, you'd probably have an issue too. - M.J., what are you wearing? Oh my God, she's wearing a spandex bodysuit. Leopard print. - It's like a bejeweled belt. - No. - She's keeping that world of leggings alive. - Who is that blonde friend of hers that they were trying to make a character for a minute that I was not buying? - And the blue leopard print span. - She looked fortified to be there. - Were they in a theme place? - They were at the Phoenix, which is a bar that has things like ping-pong and games and stuff, but the Phoenix just closed actually. - When was it? - Which is sort of like-- - No, right? - Spandex there. - It was on Lasienega, and as we all know, with the Shaza sunset, once the Shaza sunset-- - Oh my God, they're only on Lasienega. - And on top of that, like every place they go to closes. - Yeah. - Although it's fair, the Phoenix closed because of the subway coming in. They had to close it to build the subway. - Oh, right. - But still, the theory still holds up. - Well, Vida playing ping-pong was amazing. I love that she showed up and she's like, "Oh, M.J., it's so good to see you. "Oh, your hair, or your face, oh, M.J." And then they're playing poker, and she's like, "I beat. "I was playing poker when I was a child, "and I played in the school competition, "and then I played it in this competition, "and then that competition, and I won them all. "I beat all those men one by one." - What I loved was, first of all, Vida's just crazy out of place and up on the first place, and I like how she gets there, and the waitress's like, "Hey, would you like a drink?" She's like, "Can I sit down first, please? "Can I sit down?" Like, why are there so many questions that I haven't even sat on yet? - That was amazing, and then the fact that she pulled out special ping-pong shoes for the fuck out. And she's like, "All right, 16 to two, you serve. "Come on, no, all right, all right, you score. "Okay, 16 to three, 17 to three, come on, come on." I was like, she, I mean, she should be coaching a gymnastics team. - Oh, can you just imagine, like, she should take over for Bella Coroli, I mean. - Yeah. - Which you could have done for Keri Strung on that ball. - I know. - And she wouldn't, by the way, she would not have carried Keri Strung afterwards. She would walk now. - Oh, no. - In fact, she would demand that she be carried. Yeah, Keri Strung with your broken ankle, you carry me. - Well, you know who I think Vida should get romantic with? - Who? - The old polygraph guy. 'Cause he also, oh my God, I can't believe we almost forgot to talk about the polygraph. - Oh, yeah, I wasn't gonna forget. - Oh my, okay, that's like Matlock, but not like when he was a lawyer, but like, Matlock currently, wherever the hell he is. 'Cause you know that's how it is. He's like, "Guess, command is centered, I don't care." Just sit down. - You know what the polygraph guy looked like? He looked like that old guy with a beard who was on that strange Canadian x-files type show. Do you know what I'm talking about, Mat? It was called like DaVinci's, something or another, or? - Oh, DaVinci's code? - No, no, it was, or like, it was, there was like a show that was in syndication that originated in Canada. And it was like this old guy with a beard who was like solving mysteries. - Well, yeah, okay. He looks like any old person, like any really, really old person. - My only mystery show is Father Dowling mysteries. - Say it again, Mat. - I just like Father Dowling mysteries. That was my mystery show of show. - Oh my God, Father Dowling, so. - With the perceived, come on. - Yeah, I was a murder, she wrote kind of a guy, so I felt I was cheating if I watched Father Dowling. - I was a diagnosis murderer sort of guy, so. - Also, I don't want preachers or priests like solving things. Like I'm telling you things in the confessional, I don't want you out there on Google like trying to figure shit out. How about you just stay there and be quiet? Preach, preacher. So, yes, okay, so this lie detector test. First of all, stupid. Second of all, you could just buy a lie detector test like going to the doctor, really. And third of all, I love that Gigi, the test was inconclusive because she lied, and not because she lied quietly, because she lied out loud. And then she was like, "What happened?" And he's like, "You lied out loud." - And she lied on the stupidest thing. They were like, "Have you ever lied "between the ages of 17 to 30? "Have you ever lied?" And she's like, "No, come on now." It's my slapper. You're so stupid, you're trying to prove to people that you were telling the truth, and then you do that on the control question, so we can't even get a good read. - Oh my God. And she was so obviously lying about every question, 'cause you can tell once she's lying, 'cause she doesn't- - The police get out and do it again. - The police get out and do it again. - She's like, "Nope, nope, not that. "Nope, nope, no to that. "Nope, definite no." - And he was friendly, honestly, he was friendly at first, and then she's like, "Well, I wanna do it again." And she's like, "Well, you can't." She's like, "No, well, I'm not leaving here "to get mad at it." And he's like, "All right, this is done. "Enough, get away." And she's like, "What?" And he just starts packing up, and he just becomes, he just, he wasn't nasty. He just was like doing whatever one in America would do. She's like, "Shut the fuck up if I'm getting outta here." - Yeah, and when MJ's like, "Okay, thank you." And she's like, "Just go." "Okay then, all right." - Get out, ladies. But I also like MJ behind the mirror watching it, because that's allowed to. I mean, what the hell? And she's rooting for things, she's rooting for questions. She's like, "Oh, no, no, no, no, don't lie on that one. "Don't lie on that one." "Never lie, please." - What a stupid, stupid, stupid person. - This show, my God, this show's been really funny lately. - It has been so good. I truly like, it's up there. It's up there with Gallery Girls. I'm not gonna lie. - Well, no, well, now you're really talking, seriously. What about, can we touch on Southern Charm for a little bit? - Oh, I was just gonna cut us off and say because we've run so long, we'll talk about Southern Charm next week. But if you have some stuff to say, go for it, buddy. - I watched it. - I don't really remember what happened on the episode. Just that Shep, I'm not Shep. Craig is continuing to drink and be ridiculous and Shep. Wait, what happened on this? There was a wall. - Yeah, we'll talk about it next week. We've done a long time to do this. - Yeah, there was some stuff. - There was some good shit. I'll save my notes from next week 'cause Cooper is throwing his own ball because he doesn't have the pedigree to get into the real ball. So he's throwing his own. - Oh, you know it was? - Yeah, and there was like some Katherine getting drunk and then they're trying to build up like this Katherine Craig thing and then T-Raph. Oh, there was the campaign manager, Sandy Duncan getting into a fight with Whitney. - With complete with Glass Eye. - Yeah. - My favorite part was when Whitney was trying to be like a young bro with Shep and he's like, "All right, dude, just playing my guitar. "I'm gonna go check out some internet porn now." I was like, "Girl, you're gonna be doing the helicopter "in there for like an hour and a half. "Who are you kidding?" - Yeah, exactly. And I like Shep is like, "Well, I hope I don't wind up like Whitney "when I'm 47, Whitney's like, "I'm gonna get the old Rina band back together." - Yeah, no, it is. - We'll get back to Southern Charm next week. We don't have a guest that is titillating our brains like you did today, Matthew. It's been lovely having you all here. - Well, thank you guys. Thank you so much for having me. Hopefully I can make another appearance with better technical help. So I don't have to be this weird calling, dude. - Before their shots or before shots are New York and their seasons. - But I know the volume is annoying for listeners 'cause your volume is gonna be lower than ours. And I'm really sorry about that, but it was worth it to have our little Maddie back home. - Yeah, and anyone who's annoyed by the volume has probably already turned off the podcast by now. (laughing) It's like too late for an apology. - This is like all the people who were listening to, so when you listen to like the "For Crying Out" podcast, it's like polished and professional and sounds great. And then they're gonna come over here and it's like, you know, the clamps or something like that. (laughing) - It's like you sing to your friends on the phone, but that's what it is. And also the "For Crying Out" loud podcast, they actually have to go to a place and see each other and do it every week. I don't know about that. - Well, we will know about it 'cause we're gonna be on the podcast next week. - I know, we're gonna be at that place. - But if we did this twice a week and we had to like actually show up somewhere and like take a shower and put on clothes. - We're the laziest motherfuckers 'cause we live a mile apart. And on top of that, we are gonna be seeing each other in T minus like two and a half hours when you come over here for a hike. - Holy shit, oh yeah, and three hours. Oh no, in two hours 'cause we gotta get that in two and a half. - Two and a half. - Set up. - Two and a half hours. - Two and a half hours. - Set up, man, 545, I'll be there. - I gotta go to the gym and take a shower. - See some free ballin', baby. - Yeah, I gotta-- - Don't forget your white mesh shorts. - I will not, and I was gonna do some laundry today, but I don't think I have time for that. - Anybody who is going-- - Ben, who are-- - Oh, go ahead, yes. - Ben, are you L.A. fitness on Hollywood 'cause I just joined? - Yeah, Matthew, I totally thought it was like an equinox kind of a boy. - Now Matt, I'm there and I will point out to you the, your neighbor, your hunky neighbor who gets boners on the street. - Done and done. I look forward to seeing you in the non-steamer. - Please. - Please. I don't think they have a steam room there, that's why I don't go there. - Matt, and if you would like to train her-- - I've actually been, I've actually been too scared to go into the locker room at all. I just run to my treadmill and then I leave 'cause I can't go there, it's too scary. - Oh Lord, you're thin. What's the point of getting thin if you're not gonna be naked around other people in locker rooms? I mean, that's the only reason I try and get thin. - Oh my God, you're just like my gay therapist like that with a hat, thank you. - Yeah, I mean, you should, you have everything. Some girl the other day I met in the line at Starbucks was like, she said, "Why is life always so difficult?" I said, "What's difficult?" You're like 22, you're gorgeous. You own the town, okay? That's all you need here. You're gorgeous, you're thin and you're young. You're complaining to me and she's like, "Thanks mom." Like, well you should listen to my mother. - Oh, you did. Center just shut up Mountain Hill. - Listen to your mother. Okay everybody, thank you so much for being here. This was an amazing epic hour and 45 minute podcast. Thank you very much. Thank you to Matt Whitfield. If you guys wanna find Matt, you can search life on the M list, M like Matt list. Anywhere on the internet. He's on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, other things. You can find Ben, you can find Ben and I's. So, mys, Ben and mys, I need English. But you can find our links at watchworkcrapins.com. Come to Facebook.com/watchworkcrapins to talk to other listeners and us and support us on Patreon guys. It's fun and thank you so much for everybody who supported us. - Yeah, it's been amazing. - And thanks to all the new listeners. I mean, we are now on iTunes last week's episode, got up to number 42 in entertainment podcast. - Wow, that's great. And next week we're on for crying out loud. So our listeners, be sure to check that out next week 'cause we are gonna be doing an hour with those ladies and it's gonna be really fun. - Fine. - After these seeps, fun. - But not as fun as me, but that's fine. - No, they're nice. They're not, they don't have your evil undercurrent Matthew. - Yeah. - So come to. - Okay, just checking, just checking. - To love and rely on. - They don't steal dresses from sample sales. (laughing) - All right, everybody, thanks so much. We will see you next time. Love you, Matt. - Bye, guys. - Bye, Matt. (upbeat music) - If you like listening to comedy, try watching it on the internet. The folks behind the sideshow network have launched a new YouTube channel called WaitForIt. It's got interviews with comedians like Reggie Watts, Todd Glass, Liza Schleisinger, slicing, driving friends with it for 10 years. One of the funniest people out there and I still have a hard time with the last name Liza. 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