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If you're shipping unqualified orders, see site for more details. Hey everyone, welcome to Watch More Crappins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to watch. I'm Ben Mantleker from BesideBlog.com and the Bantar Blender Podcast, which is on iTunes. And joining me this week is the wonderful, the lovely bespokeed Ronnie Karam. Wow. Yes. Ronnie Karam, recent purchaser of a suit. Hi Ronnie from TrashTalkTV.com. Hello everybody, so wonderful to be here. You, I can already sense that you are sartorially improved. Wow, as if I didn't feel stupid enough co-hosting a Bravo podcast. And joining us this week, you may have heard a little chuckle through the background there is our dear friend Angie Thomas from the Small Potato Podcast as well as the Lion's Den podcast. Hey, Angie. Hey, y'all. It's the Lion's Lair. Lion's Lair. I'm sorry. It's okay. Oh, I called it the Lion's Den earlier. I know. But you guys on Twitter are the Dan Loonies, so I think you should maybe clarify that up. Just a little break. I think you may need some branding of it. Lair Loonies. Lair Loonies. Lair D'Aloon. Anyway, Angie, thanks for coming back on the show. Thank you for having me. So good. This is a good week to talk. Oh, God. This has been a great week. It's been a great week to talk. You know, it's been a great week to live a great week. I tell you, you know what happened today? Alanis Morissette liked one of my photos on Instagram. What? You're joking. And then I clicked through and it wasn't Alanis Morissette. It was someone from Asia called Kimchi Kardashian. What? How did you get that confused with Alanis Morissette? Because her Instagram handle is Alanis Morissette at Alanis Morissette, but it's really some person from Asia. That's amazing. But I still, you know what, I'm still going to take it. Yeah. Lisa Rinna liked my recap, which is really mean and then followed me. I love you, Lisa Rinna. Wow. Oh, my God. That's amazing. And Leah wrote me something like Leah Black wrote. Oh, watch what happens. It's a guilty pleasure. And I wrote back to them. Hey, Leah, when you're in the summer, let's all hang out at your house. But no one favorite. Yeah. I think I've already overstayed that. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I'm like, you followed me. Do you want to go have lunch? Yeah. That's a guilty pleasure. Not a guilty invitation. Yeah. I still remember when you brought Tupperware to my house and took that sushi home. And it made too. I was like, hey, when you made Skid on the back of my scooter, she doesn't need three maids for this living room. Get the hell on my scooter and bring that sushi. Stop wiping down those mirrors. Leah. Yeah. We love. We actually, we do love Leah. And we love Lisa Renee, too, and both she come on. But anyway, you can follow us on Facebook, facebook.com/watchforcrapins. So much fun. It's happening on that Facebook page. We say it every week. Now we say it twice a week. And we mean it twice as much. It's really, honestly, there's like a lot of people on there, a lot of good commentary, a lot of good pictures and links, et cetera. It's great. And then for all our other social media, you can go to watchforcrapins.com. Or in the case of Angie, you can go to @denleneys on Twitter. Yeah, lines are podcast. And I'm also at small potatoes podcast. Yeah. It's really, really good, really fun, food oriented podcast. The latter one was. And of course, you can always support Watch For Crapins on patreon, patreon.com/watchforcrapins. And you can, you know, if you feel like throwing a dollar or two at us, you can get access to like a bonus episode and you can maybe, depending on how much you can get up. There's ringtones and there's hangouts and maybe other stuff down the line. I keep taking forever to post ringtones, but right now, there's a Sheena monologue about to go up. Everybody telling Stassi that she's wrong. Katie saying like for reals after telling off Stassi, because can you tell I miss Vanderpump rules already? Yeah. And Reza's gay heart and a Gina Ringer. Okay. There's a lot about. How does the Gina Ringer go? The Gina Ringer is her opening from the housewife. So it goes, I don't feel in fact, but I deal in fact, not in friction. Oh, I thought it was, I thought it was going to be like her be like, no friction. I deal in fact, not friction. I thought it was going to be like, I thought, I thought it was going to be like her saying ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, or, or maybe her saying, get off my phone like this minute. I said, you know what I'm going to do though, Ben? You're calling it. I'm going to go back and I'm going to get her saying what she got in that fight with Janet in the restaurant. I'm going to get her saying, well, she's a horrible person. Well, she's a horrible person. Well, she's a horrible person. Yeah, you can assign that one to your, to your front of me. Girl. Yeah. These things, I actually do use them as my ringer sometimes. Oh my God. They're so obnoxious. Yeah. Well, it's got Stan, Kristin, Kristin, Kristin, Kristin, the best bet is to use them for text tones because that way it's like one and done, at least it's better than that stupid like generic tone, it's like do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, it's like a Maxwell house going off of the doctor's office every time he gets like, yeah, I just got a new iPhone. So I didn't get to plan on my ringers yet. And yeah, I'm stuck with those ring thing, thing, thing, thing, thing, thing, thing, thing, thing, thing, thing, thing. So fuck up. Who even wants to check their texts with that people, people who have the most annoying ring tones have them on the loudest and the appropriate times you'll get a movie and hear that they have like full on drum beats like, the best iPhone ring tone is, yeah. Canberra has that. Can't browse that. Bins calling me because I'm late for this podcast, the best one and I won't talk about shows on Bravo. Canberra totally has that one, our front camera. And then I actually gave to, to our friend, Sylvia, I gave her the private dance serving tone. Oh, man. So when she calls like, did, did, did, did, did, did, oh, I can't listen to that song. It's a very sultry phone call. I think I actually did a terrible impersonation of it, but you get the point. So my Lebanese grandmother, Sithi, Sithi Mary, the last year she was alive, we had this big karaoke Christmas, as we often did. And I sang private dancer for her and stripped. I can't listen to that song anymore. Was that like when the song was out? Oh, no. Colonel, how old do you think I am? The song was out. What the hell? Private dancer? I mean, I don't, well, you could have been like a kid. My parents hadn't even met yet. I'm a private dancer, dancer for money, do what you want me to do. All right. So real housewives to Beverly Hills, eh? Yeah. Wow. Talk about it. This is going to be a painful discussion. So we had to start it with a lot of iPhone ringers. Yeah. Right? The dancing spirit. But there's nothing, Lebanese grandma. Nothing about talking, you know, strippers is a good, is a good entry way to talk about arena filled with, you know, drug addicts and horse. Yeah. This is going to need a lot of lib. Yeah. Yeah. This topic needs a little bit of, and in fact, many, many, many to take it into the champagne room. Take it in back. Get a, well, I'm going to let you guys take the lead on Beverly Hills because I've been riding the recaps all season, and frankly, I'm like filled with so much. By the end of the season, I'm so just, it's affecting me too much. Like I need to take a step away and knock it so upset because I get really upset. Then I'm like, well, what if I ever met Brandy? What would I say to her? It's like really, you don't need to be thinking about Brandy. What would you not say? I know what, I know what she would say to you. Yeah. I don't want to do that, I don't want to do that, I don't want to do that, I don't want to do that. Fucking bitch. The best thing that I've heard, this about Brandy in the past few weeks, Julie Klausner on her podcast said that Brandy looked like one of those giggles cookies from the 90s. Oh my God. And. What a horrible person. She do. I'm the voice like Mr. Bill, oh no, but only when she's mad, Dino from the Flintstones. Yeah. We should put Brandy screaming next to Leah laughing. It's like two cars and traffic that needs to get their belt changed, or that needs your belt changed. I was thinking about, you know, between her and Eddie, I always was just sort of, you know, I said before when I was on here that I think she and Eddie were actually probably perfect for each other. I sort of feel like Eddie's kind of a dirt bag maybe, but you know, I have to give it to him for not letting the kids be on the show, because I was sitting there and I was like, that is someone's mother. I mean, I know, I don't want to like put parameters on like how a mother should act and or whatever, but I just, I was thinking like, thank God actually he had the common sense to like keep those kids out of that. They will. I'm sure they will. They're going to see it in court. She's like, I love, I love how Brandy is like, but I woke up at five a.m. How could father have made themselves to the brothers who thought I could be here and be a show myself as a terrible mother to all the world. That's basically what she's doing. She's like, I'm a good mom. I wake up early. I take care of my kids that way. I have time to come on TV and call other women hoars and say, shut the fuck up and be an awful person. Great. Great. Good words about their daddy's sleeping with tranny's and telling everybody that they were test to babies. Her behavior is so despicable. And she sort of said it is if like, well, you know, he won't allow them to be on the show. And I was trying to like, can you imagine like what she would be? I would just imagine her exploiting those kids if they were allowed to be on the show because she would be trying to show that she's like mother of the year. It'd be like Alexis Bellino that one season of OC where she's like, Oh, no, Jim and I have a great relationship. Look at us like playing with our kids. They'd be like having like, she'd be having birthday parties with petting zoos and stuff like that. You know, it's, I mean, while they're, they're in neck braces from trampoline parks. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's really, that's why you probably stopped letting them. I'm carrying around like little Epi pens and like insulin because too many orange julias is anyway, I probably won't let them be on because the first season she was on, they went to that little kids party, whoever's it was. And her kid was like peeing out in the open on a tree or something and they're like, um, your son is pissing on a tree and she's like, Oh, she's like, yeah, she's like, don't you dare talk about my son. Don't you dare. Don't you dare talk about my kids. That's the worst. But you know, I have to say actually for this reunion episode, one of our listeners, Sydney Charlotte, posted on our page, the recap from Vulture. And this really got to the thick of it. And I'm, by the way, I'm sorry, Ronnie. I didn't, I'm not trying to. Oh, there's a million recaps in the world. Not trying to ignore the trash talk. Don't worry about it. You just know, no, seriously. Go to Vulture first. Well, no. Everybody. Yours is like the funny one. This is, this is one that, this is one that got me fired up. Yeah. I'm just kidding. No, they're grateful. It's great. I'm going to read some of this and then feel free to interrupt and use it as a springboard as you, as you wish. But the writer, who is the writer, Brian Moylin, Brian Moylin. So he writes after this season and this reunion in particular, it seems that I was wrong about Kim the whole time because he had said that Kim had been his formerly favorite housewife. She wasn't a poor lost child star who didn't know what to do with her life and was struggling with sobriety. She's just a mean, vicious person who is hiding a whole lot of bad behavior under layers of intoxication. She wants everyone to accept her now that she's sober and no matter what you say, I still, oh, he says, no matter what you say, I still believe that Kim is mostly sober. End parentheses. But not drinking or touching drugs isn't the end of the road. Kim isn't addressing her bad behavior or whatever it was that made her drink in the first place. It's like if you stop having an affair and then think that automatically, everything is going to be perfect with your husband. Sorry, I'm like putting the wrong emphasis on bars, the sentences. That's okay. I'm like misleading you. Just reading like the computer. I'm just reading you. Well, I keep thinking the sense is going in a different way. But yeah, no, it's a good point, like thinking that like, oh, if you stop having an affair, like, oh, well, then therefore, it's over, it's fine. So yes, if Brandy was the villain of part one of the reunion, then Kim is the new villain that we need to talk about this week. First, we can talk about Eileen briefly because I like her more and more. When Brandy asks, what Eileen brought to the show, Eileen should have said, sanity. Eileen is a real actual smart person who always seems to have a measured and logical response. She is a way the viewers have to experience the show sort of looking around going, who are these Martians, blah, blah, blah. Actually, I'd like to take a pause there. Yes. I think where that goes wrong, that analysis goes wrong, is Eileen brought sanity because she kind of brought boredom. Let's admit it. I don't know. I disagree. I know you do. It's not excitement to the end, like, to this reunion. She's killing it. She killed it. I'm going to give credit where credit's due. Also, you know, I love this bitch as the quadruplets from Days. I love her. Like, I'm in love with her. But on this show, I saw glimpses of her trying to bring the drama. She's trying to bring it with Brandy. She was trying that thing that happened with Brandy at the beginning. She could have just laughed off and been like, you're crazy. Don't throw drinks in people's face. But instead, she was smart about it. She cried about it. Then she went to her husband and was like, she's a super fan. What do I do about her? She's crazy. She's following me. She tried to go there. It just didn't really click in that way because I think she just wasn't involved with the other ladies. No. I think some of that has to do with being from Malibu. Is it possible if we take your theory, is it possible to say that maybe it might have clicked except for the fact that everything with Poker Night came in and just overshadowed it? That became the drama. No, I think it didn't click because Brandy wasn't going to fight with her. Brandy's not going to get to fight with somebody. But meaning it was in its early stages of turning into something, and then everything happened with Kim, and then that became the focus. I just think that I think Eileen has been great on the show. I don't think everyone needs to bring drama necessarily. I think if you can bring a like ability, yeah. She didn't bring the drama, which is fine, but if you're not going to bring the drama, Brandy doesn't bring a lot of drama, but she's funny and she's real. That's exactly what Eileen is. But Eileen is out there with her kid doing homework and then went to work on Days One Day and then played her house one day, and then like, I don't know, like packed her kid for camp one day. I was like, yeah, you need to, I mean, you don't have to like strangle anybody, but I don't know. I don't know. I think that Eileen was good at Target or something. I think Eileen was super funny, and I thought she did like fun things. I mean, she did have a few of those annoying domestic scenes, but they all did. And you know, I enjoyed when she had her film festival in Burbank at the mall and things like that. I was like very happy for Eileen's presence. I think every time she made commentary, it was always hilarious. I thought she was also very like astute with her observations. I was big fan, big fan, and I think I'm this reunion. She was great, and she totally busted Brandy. When Brandy was like talking about how like, oh, you know, all my girlfriends and my girlfriends have cheated on the guy. And like, there's one girlfriend that I had when I found out that she was like, was with like a married guy, I like stop being, I like, stop being friends with her immediately. And then, and Eileen's like, so you're now, you're the moral compass of our group. Yeah. Yeah. The other good thing about Eileen is because she's, since she doesn't really have a legitimate history, bright beef with anybody, she can be really coherent and clean. She sees things from like our perspective, so she can just kind of play it like it is. It's not like Kyle. She didn't just burst into yours. Lisa Rinna, who I adore, but Lisa can get like kind of emotion. She gets more like actress L.A. emotional, and I think like, Eileen is also a damn good actress because she can kind of turn on that soap persona a little bit and like hype it up, but she's still just like you said, like she'll stay at her point, matter of factly, and then you move on. Well, that's what I was waiting for from her was, you know, and I know it's not fair to like expect an actress to be their character, but I am a real superfan and like Brandy who didn't even know that Billy, that Lisa Rinna was the original Billy, false superfan. I watched every episode of that. Do you know how much school I missed to go to my Sithys house and play cards with old ladies to watch that shit? And since I'm not a dancer. Yeah. Well, that was a party. You were raised right. During the day it was just, it was just gin rummy, but I loved her and I'm like, she needs to bring that character, Kristen Demira, Stefanos evil daughter. She needs to bring that girl on and in the reunion, she did. I mean, she was just giving dirty looks left and right, snarking left and right, not taking any crap and that's, I'm excited she's on the show because I knew she, I knew she had that in her and I can't wait until next year when her bitch flower properly has time to blossom. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, she definitely was like was taking Brandy to task and she's doing a great job of it. You know, when she told Brandy that she was being in the ass, she was constantly being an asshole to her and Brandy's like, and I apologize and she's like, and you continue to be an asshole. And then Brandy just nods yes, like, well, yeah, yeah, exactly. And then, you know, and Lisa Vanderpump is like, well, that's just not the way the world works, darling. That's just, you know, you just can't apologize and she's right, but Brandy will never understand. Well, Lisa started rolling her weave around and like pointing her crooked finger and jumping up and down on the couch. Lisa Vanderpump, and she's like, hey, you think you can just apologize and that's how it ends with the world. There's no one that works, darling. Like, well, Lisa, you're turning into like a cast member from My Fair Lady, calm down. Yeah. Chill it over there. But yeah, they were ready to dog pile Brandy. I think Brandy's fallen into the Tamara Barney trap of just being a complete, horrible human being and then turning into a victim where everybody calls her out on when everybody calls her out on it. And then when you say, why are you such a bitch, man? Like, on watch what happens when people call in, they're like, Tamara, you know, Denise from Poopy Diper Falls wants to know why you're such a cunt. And then she's like, well, you know, I have a job to do and Andy pays me a lot of money to do it. So screw you. You know, that's Tamara Barney's answer and that's basically where Brandy's at. You know, the thing is this, though, when you see Brandy, it also, it kind of makes you appreciate the artistry of Tamara Barney, if I may be so bold to use that phrase. No, because we say this every year, Tamara Barney, I mean, she's like a snake. She's like an evil woman. And every year she knows exactly who to like be the enemy of. And she just is always just the enemy. And she's just sort of there and she's awful. And yet she's like, like sort of like wonderfully awful, like you kind of like, you need her, you know, it's like, you sort of love having Tamara there. She acts a certain way. She over the course of seasons, she targets someone and by the end she, it's evil. And then at the, at the reunion, she's just vile. And then it starts all over the next season, whereas Brandy, it's just like, she's sort of like, there's a little bit of more righteousness in her. And it's almost like, I think she believes the bullshit that she's spewing, whereas I don't know if Tamara does. And it's kind of like, oh, you're awful. Just go away. We don't, we just don't need you. We don't need you on the show. Well, Tamara also has a talent of fitting in because she's the same age as the ladies. She actually can fake it. And if she's nice to you, she can actually be their friends. So she's actually, she tricks people into thinking she's their friend and then she flips them. And that's why it's hilarious. But Brandy can't, because Brandy is like, I'm younger than you guys, you're all old. So that automatically separates you. And I'm hot. And she's awesome. Shut the fuck up. Yeah. You know, she's vulgar. She's white trashy when they're all pretending at least. And the other thing is too, is that there's also me and the cast are different too. I mean, Tamara Barney would never fit in on Beverly Hills. And you know, that's where also Brandy sticks out because she is sort of white trash and therefore she belongs in our county. I don't know. I've never thought Brandy is a very intelligent person. And she is one of these women that has unfortunately because she is so tall and thin and pretty. She's, that has let her coast forever. And now she literally is in a position where she needs to use her intellect and be kind of sharp and know how to talk to people. And even when they're at a social function, she can't just like be there and like talk to anybody. I mean, she has to either have a fight or have a scene or bring horrible people with her. She has no social skills because I think like, you know, I used to work with models and stuff. And like when you're in 19, it's cute to be a model and be at a party and be drunk and sitting on guys laps. And I mean, like that worked the way, I mean, you got to try and get a husband somehow. Yeah. But now Brady, like that's her go to. She doesn't know how to do that's her only way she knows how to behave. Yeah, and in fact, when one of the callers was like or the watchers was like, what do you bring to the show? And when he was like a conflict, I guess that's like, that really should not be like a source of pride. I don't know if you really said it that way, but either way, I was like, yeah, she did. You know, it's like, that's not like, that's not something that you should be proud of. And I was actually very much, I was, I was, I was, I was glad that Lisa were gonna ask like, what happened in your childhood that made you like, it was sort of like a very rude question. But like one, I was really happy to hear everybody's like, you're not a therapist or whatever. It's like, oh, nice to, that was, I'm told the question was, Oh, no, my parents are great. They're still together. Yeah. And yeah, my parents are still together. Like, first of all, what a country thing to say because you're not still together with your father. So what is that saying about your own parenting skills? You idiot, like she doesn't even know that she's criticizing herself. And then don't you remember that your storylines about your father, your father being so horrified by you that he won't speak to you anymore. And like now he's barely starting to talk to you. And then when he was in the hospital, you were filming a scene getting a facial. Yeah. Like bitch, please. Yeah. And then didn't, and then I believe it was Brandy who was going after Lisa Rina about her depends, whatever her and Lisa has like, where's your tampon endorsement? That was kind of an amazing comeback. And she, and also she tries to be, she tries to manipulate things, but it never, she can't follow through. She's not smart enough. Like with Lisa Rina was spot on when she kind of labeled her as this trashy mom thing because she is because she tries, she's always like, I'm a mother, I'm a blah, blah, blah. And then she tried to turn it like you're coming from much, not every woman on here, I have to say, they're respectful of the kid thing. Yeah. Like they rarely go for that, and most of the kids on this show are fine, like there's no reason to. It's like, mother is a four letter word. Like if you, if you mentioned mother, it's like, you're coming up to my kids like, no, it's just, that's your, that's your, right now that's like a title that applies to, to you and you're like, your mother is coming for her kids when you, when somebody says you're a trashy mother, it doesn't mean that you're a mother who like serves trash to your kids. It just means that you're a mother and you happen to be trashy. And that's the only thing she has left. That's all she has left. That is her last remaining shred of dignity is she's got those two boys that are saying, and the only reason they're saying is because Eddie won't let them be on the damn show. Right. And also I love that everybody acts like having a baby makes him like Superman. Yeah. Okay. You let sperm into your vagina and then something came out of it. It's been happening since the beginning of fucking time. Okay. When you drop an apple core onto the grass, the seeds fall into it and maybe an apple trio grow. Okay. It's called nature. Get over yourself. I poop this morning. Okay. If you want to be special. Yeah. If you want to like really be, if you want to protect your kids, you shouldn't be angry at your ex for him, not letting them on the show so that way you could exploit them. You should just, you should be happy. And in fact, if you want to protect your kids, you shouldn't be on the show in the first place. How about that? Yeah. Yeah. There's the thing I will say about Brandi because I do think that Brandi would probably be a really cool chick if she wasn't trying so hard to, to make an impression like she seems like she would just be fun to hang out with. Like I'm sure if we met her in real life, we'd love her. I would love girls like Brandi. She's snarking. She's fine. She drinks. She seems like she's sensitive. I mean, she's friends with, you know, someone who deals with people in rehab every day. Like, there seems to be a side of her that's good. It's just that she wants. The first saw, the first, when we first saw the first two seasons, well, she was being victimized then. And that's a, that's the typical way that you fall in love with a housewife is when they're being victimized by somebody else. Like, she's always like the one who's being bullied. She wasn't, but she was a little bit more fun then too. She was, she was sort of silly. When she would say things, she was sort of saying she was sort of speaking the truth a little bit more. But now it's like you said that she's now trying to make power plays. She's trying to like make an impression. And it's nothing. There's been time. She, she, here's a shred of gossip. She passes it on as if it's truth. She perceives things incorrectly, which, you know, she, that's why when I liked when Kyle told her earlier in the season, like these are all like your truth, but they're not the truth. Yeah. Or some version of that. Yeah. I mean, I think she would be a cool chick. She's just trying too hard to be a villain, but then she can't take being a villain. Like, you know, like bringing it back to Tamara, Tamara accepts that she's a villain and she'll go in there and scream it, yeah, scream and yell and, you know, do whatever she needs to do and finishes a villain. And I know that it hurts her feelings too, because I've read her stuff on Twitter like, I'm just doing my job and everyone's so mean to me. I need to get off Twitter for two weeks, you know, like I get that too, but Brandi's just takes it to a new level where it's like you cannot be, I would root for the villain. I love a good villain, but she's just, you can't be a villain and then start crying. Okay. Cheers. Do not cry. The problem is that she just, she's deeply insecure and she wants to be liked. And when she's not liked, her defense mechanism is to lash out at the people who don't like her because it's easier to make it their fault than to look within herself and see what's wrong with me. You know, it's typical villain behavior on the housewives, they all, every single villain does it. Nini, same thing. She goes in a therapy with everybody after causing shit with everybody in the cast and then leaves crying because nobody's on her side and they're all against her. Amber Barney, everybody's against her, Jill's there and poor God bless her. Everybody was just against her. They all, it's like they, they, they must have psychologists working in the casting and because they're just like, get me one delusional sad bully who, you know, with a persecution complex. Let's make this happen. Right. Now, but as much as we've been talking about Brandi, this episode really was all about Kim. This was the Kim episode. We were transitioning into little Kim Twitchers. I would like to bring up some stuff because we take a lot of what we say off this Facebook page because we have a, we have live threads whenever we do this, do the show and read everybody's comments and stuff. And there's a lot of people who've been saying stuff on this page that I think we should address. Paula, love you. Maybe just can't, they keep making this point in these threads. And I think it's a legit point. Maybe just maybe Kim was right about, and I, I lean and Lisa having nothing to talk about except her problems. Now, I will say, I've agreed with that many times over the course of the season. And that does bug me that the new girls are making Kim's thing, their storylines. But why not? Why kind of low personally, but but that's like a thing to talk about. Haven't you ever been around, but I mean, no, I don't think it is. Look, if it were, if they said, Kim, you're drunk, do you need help? If it was something like that, okay, but making it like lunches where you talk about it, and then you're talking about it in all of your interviews, you ever had a drunk a friend who's like a drunk? Yeah. Oh my God. I've had friends who've been drunk, and it like totally dominates conversations. Like, it's not just something you talk about. It's like a thing that you talk about with your friends a lot, because you're always talking about, you're always like catching up on what that person did most recently. And then you're talking about your sort of like evidence building, because you know, eventually you're going to have to say something to the friend and what do you say and when do you say it? How do you do it? And did you say it? No, I didn't say it. So it's like, it's when you say like, that leaves me to my defense, okay? So what you're saying is rational, okay? And I'm sure I've been that friend before, not with you necessarily, but I'm sure I've been that friend in the group that people are like, Oh my God, Ronnie just pooped in the bushes or something, you know, like I'm sure that I've been that friend. So I get that and I get that it, I get that it becoming a, I get all that, but I think that my defense is Kim, all Kim had to do with say, listen, I know I acted like a fucking crazy person. I relapsed because I'm an addict. And part of what being an addict is is always being obsessed with drugs now call. And sometimes you relapse and I'm sorry, but I did it. I acted like a jerk. You're right to be worried about me. Thank you for being worried about me. And I'm okay. Like I got back on track. I called my, my fake sponsor, the gay guy psychic. I got off Craigslist to tell me I'm still sober, even when I drink wine and take pain pills. And I'm fine. So thank you. But Kim can't admit when she's wrong ever. And she lies over and over again. And that's why everybody saying Kim is still an addict. She is not taking responsibility. She has never once apologized to anybody. And then she lies about everything. And then she's caught in her eyes and then she says things like, well, yeah, I say things I don't remember. Right. That's called blacking out Kim. Yeah. And you know, this is a good segue to the rest of this recap, because the recap also sort of like touches on this solve, I'll try to read this quickly and on selected parts of it. Go for it. I'm going to keep, I'm going to read jokes for my recap. Yeah. So the, the runner goes, Kim, Kim, a Khrushball that has been left out in the rain. Um, the thing that bugs me about Kim is how she just sort of like, I'm being too judgmental of someone else's. She's like a wet toy. I don't know what that means. The thing that bugs me about Kim is how she turned what happened at Eileen's Poker Night into everyone else's problem. Doesn't she realize that everything that came out of that night, which really was the whole second half of the season where all anyone did was talk about Kim's sobriety, had to do with the fact that she took a pill that she shouldn't have been taking. Kyle didn't take the pill. Eileen didn't take the pill, Lisa Rinna didn't take the pill, Brandi tried to take the pill because she sort of gobbles them up like she's Miss Pac-Man, but she did not. Kim took the pill and that is what made everyone do what they did. How does Kim not realize this? How is it that everyone else did something wrong that night and Kim didn't? Kim says she was wrong for taking it, but it doesn't seem like she really thinks that. She's mad at Kyle for making her. No, she didn't. Actually, Kim said, I took it for a reason. I took it because I was in pain. I was sick. Yeah. That's why I took the pill. I took it for a reason. I wasn't relapsing. The reason I took the pill and then I was in the hospital, so that's proof that I was sick. Well, at one point, at one point, she said, and I realized it was wrong, but she said it like that. Oh, actually, they make her, you know, they make her sick. And at one point, they make her point blank. I think apologize to, maybe Eileen, and it was, and that was when her true personality came out because when he was, when he asked her point blank, do you think you owe her an apology, be, be, be, yeah. And then when she was forced to do it, it was so like half-hearted, like that's who she is. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that was the second, that was the second time that apology was brought up in the reunion. It had been brought up about like 10 minutes earlier, was like, have you apologized, apologized to Eileen and Lisa? And she was like, I didn't have to after what they did for me. It's like, no, you're supposed to. You're supposed to. And they called her out for accountability, and she refused to. Yeah. Well, I think a lot of the reason, you know, I get very ragey about Kim, and I've raged on for hours on this season, especially over Kim. And I guess I would just like to clarify that I am an addict in a lot of, I mean, I quit smoking for three years, and I've been smoking, and my friends are horrified. And I'm like, look, I fell off the wagon all stop Saturday. Sorry. Yeah. It's my life. It's fucking smoke, like my problem is not that Kim is an addict. My problem is that she's a fucking asshole, and she's an asshole to everybody. She will never say she's sorry. And then she blames people for her problems. And one thing somebody brought up on our Facebook page or in the comments or something, a really good point was last year's reunion, she was accusing Lisa of telling everybody she took that pain pill. And that wasn't a relapse or blah, blah, blah, but this year suddenly it would be considered a relapse. She doesn't remember her own arguments and it's, it's just, it's happened, but that's right. That's so funny. And you know, a dry drunk is actually almost worse than a drunk because you have empathy for an addict. You have empathy for somebody whose life is out of control. You know they're hurting. You want to help them. And Kim, and I was sitting here and I was honestly like, I think she's sober, but I think she's still acting out in the addict behavior. Yeah. I mean, she's sober, maybe she's not doing crystal meth and bathrooms or whatever they were accusing her of in season one, but Kim's, Kim's version of what sober is in play everyone else. It's like the AA version of sober is if you take cold medicine with alcohol in it, you're not so you fall off the wagon. It's like very, you know, very strict, but if you go to the promises version of, you know, recovery, it's not that it's not, you don't have to be dry and you don't have to not take drugs forever. It's fine. The reasons that you're like fucking wasted every day and fix that. Yeah. So there's different versions and look, I'm all for somebody being sober and still having a drink on a Friday night if they can do that, but not everybody can. And I don't know. I mean, she's maybe she's so mushy that she's still slurry and stuff, but she doesn't look sober to me. Yeah. And obviously, you know, we talk a lot about like as, as like in being a recovery, you're supposed to, you're supposed to make a bends, just to make a man's. I mean, that assumes that you're following the 12 step model, which like you sort of, which you just kind of alluded to is not always the model that everyone uses, but it's kind of like the, the, the most widely accepted model for recovery. I feel like that's, that's like the one, you know, like that's, that seems to be the only one that helps people have any reasonable kind of life. And it seems like that's the one that that came, have been taking, you know, um, and it's just, you know, to see her just just continuing to lash out and really just, you know, it's like, well, yeah, sure, I did this, but you did that, but you did that. It's like, no, those were all in reactions to you, Kim. Those were all wrong. I love that they just kept cutting to clips of her being wrong. She's like, and then I was like, I'm so sorry for what I did in your house. And then I went outside and then I saw John Stamos pass and I was like, no, that none of that happened. John Stamos doesn't live in Maladin. You know, and she's like, whatever, lying at it, no, Kim, it's on the TV. Everything you just said is a lie, you know, you're not in gravity just because you have a spacesuit at home. Yeah. Those girls have learned from a very early age to fight during, like, Kim, Kim has learned that is some ingrained behavior. And Kyle just cries. That's her go to. She does cry, but I feel like within good reason. I mean, yeah, yeah, she's completely beat down. That's the cry of somebody that's been dealing with that her whole life. Yeah, because Kyle is the more. Kyle is the more responsible. I mean, I don't know what Kathy is really like. I mean, Kathy seems like she's probably trouble. She's God. Yeah. But like, I mean, that is, you know, she has had just, she has no sense. She has no fashion sense. Well, it's probably, you know, it's probably about helping Kim, you know, all this talk about helping Kim and they're letting Kathy walk around dressed like that as a multicazillionaire. No, someone help Kathy. Kim is, Kim is hopeless, let's start concentrating on Kathy. I think Kathy's trying to be incognito. I think she's trying to hide. She's too embarrassed. Yeah. She's smart for this. She's got a, you know, she's got an internet porn star daughter with millions of dollars. She's like on this high horse, which I don't get. Like your husband has hotels great. Your daughter is basically a whore on the internet. Stop ragging. Like calm yourself down. Get from my fitness pal. Get some clothes that fit you and comb your damn hair. You're wealthy. You have no excuse. In LA she would. Yeah. Well, that's true. Yeah. We have different score keepings here. Yeah. Exactly. No, I mean... My daughter had the bravery to swallow a load on the internet. Mother of the year, like some people had those bumper stickers like, my son is the star and soccer. She's like, my daughter swallowed a load and there's like a little stick figure with Paris with something dripping from her mouth. And then went to jail. Do you remember when Paris went to jail and then when she got out a day later, the media frenzy? Oh my God. I was like, I'm going to become a DJ. And then remember, she was, my, I used to live in an apartment in West Hollywood at that time. And so I wasn't, I guess I wasn't that far away from Paris's house was like just up from the Sunset Strip. And I was on the other side of the Sunset Strip on the south side. And the helicopters were... The side of the tracks. The other side of the tracks. The helicopters were hovering overhead for like 48 hours straight. It was insane. Yeah, it was live on CNN when they were going to Iran or it was huge. It was like, you would have thought like, this was like a presidential assassination or something. It was such a crazy big deal. It was so fun though, wasn't it? Yeah. Most of the days. Please, somebody make those bumper stickers for the back of the cars. Those family stickers on the back window of Paris just having a load, please. Yeah. So then, well, the big thing also that the episode ended on, I mean, we didn't even talk about Lisa Renos. A little dance. A lot of stuff here still. Yeah. But the big thing though with Kyle and Kim though was Kyle basically being like, I don't have to be at your daughter's wedding. It's okay. I don't have to be honest. Oh, that was so hard. Yeah. That was harsh. And then when she said the only reason why I ever try to make things work between us is because I love your children like my own and I want them like in my life and I want them in my kid's life. That was like, yeesh, that was like intense. Yeah. And then she was, I mean, she was beside her. She was like sobbing. You could barely ask for air. Those were not crocodile tears. I'm sorry. Yeah. Kyle's not that good of an actor. She was so evil. She was like, yeah, whatever. She just got a little bite on her finger. It's like she's in a cast. She had to have like multiple spirits. The fact that Kim is going to, next week, take the side of a dog versus Renise is to me totally reprehensible. Oh, yeah. Well, did her niece ever frolic with her in bed while she was trying to make it? No. That's true. And also the whole hairy thing because I did think for a, I had like a brief moment where I was sort of like Lisa is being way too late. Maybe she does. Like wisely to being like so nice to her. Maybe there is something to this, but then I, I, I, it was also petty and silly. And I was just sort of like, I do think she was put up to it, um, to say it. And I don't know. Brandy. Brandy is classy to say what it was because I don't like rooming. Brandy hears like third, fourth hand gossip and then she passes it on as if it's fact. She probably tells Kim like, well, I heard this. I don't know. You should, if you, you know, you should, next time Lisa, Lisa speaks up to you, you should say this term. That will shut her up. You should do that. She'd probably sit there, remembering that into a year for weeks on end and find that the chance comes and, and so Kim will, again, then Kim teases her with this, this knowledge that she has. I heard people have been saying when it's only Brandy, but of course, as Kim hears voices, she probably hears like three Brandy voices and sounds like a choir. I don't know. Kim and Brandy also make fun of people's looks they're, they're low, like go eat your hairs ugly, like, go eat something. Yeah. That's always bugged me about that. Like you guys are all struggling to be thin. The first time we saw Brandy in a bikini, she looked like ET. Yeah. That was like a way better face than she currently got. But she looked like ET, like, what do you, you're going to call someone else anorexic. You're a fucking drug addict. Stop. What are you doing? Just stop. Yeah. I don't know. I just wish they had taken my family members advice. It was like, I've done everything I'm supposed to my whole life and now I want to drink. Fuck off. We're like, all right. That's just it. It's like, just please don't throw your suit down on the ground in a restaurant and call the waiter, you know, something racist. Thanks. Great. Yeah. That's how to do it. And that whole thing where she's where Brandy is big comeback is you've had the same week for 20 years and Lisa's like, you're damn right I have. And then she gives her like the double fingers and starts doing a dance. That's how to deal with an addiction. You know, Lisa's addiction is to a wig from the 80s. So she's just embracing it and she's like, fuck yeah, it is. And then she goes on entertainment tonight or access Hollywood or whatever in a really long wig just as another fuck you to Brandy. And then she posts a picture with the dog that Harry supposedly fucked as her blog on Bravo. I mean, that's how to do it. Yeah. That's exactly how you do it. Mm hmm. Yeah. Kim needs to just pay attention and take some lessons. Okay. The school's in session. Yeah. Guys. Do people still say that? School's in session. All right. You just got schooled girl. I'm sure Lisa Rinna says it, except she adds a baby at the end. You just got schooled baby. Baby. Oh, that was the best. Oh, whatever, baby, come up with that baby like Frank Sinatra, like an up casino trying to get a drink. Baby. That's right. Sammy, baby. You seeing Liza, baby? I said the presidential suite, baby, come this far. Oh, by the way, Amy Phillips does such a like spot on Lisa Rinna impersonation. Oh, I want to see that. It's amazing. Oh, man. Oh, she tweeted it and said, and she put on Facebook, my friend Amy Phillips does these hilarious videos, you know, and put it on, which is so nice. And then someone wrote, oh, wow, I didn't know you guys were besties now. And Amy wrote back, well, we only met once, but I guess that could be besties. And I was like, oh, slam. Wow. She even got Amy Phillips, like separating herself from you and she's like the nicest person on the Earth. She is so wonderful. The nicest person. We would have her on here, but I think it's a conflict of interest for her since she does stuff for Watch What Happens. Yeah. So she can't. Yeah. That's it. That's an actual paycheck for her. So. Yeah, we're. So we get it, but she is so awesome. We get your distance. Sammy, we get your distance. We get it. And we accept it and we're enthused. But if you all whenever hear her, you can look through our archives. She was on one of her episodes back. Yeah. She's hilarious. She's so funny. Yeah. Yeah. She does good. Her lease is good. Hustle. Hustler hashtag hustle. So let me see. So the rest of this whole episode was basically Brandy and Kim on the defensive and lying. And then the editors showing clips saying that they're lying. Yeah. So the third gross part of this is Andy looks bored the entire time and tell people are calling each other alcoholics and then he smiles and then he's smiling and laughing the whole fucking time. Yeah. I was actually disgusted by that. I was like, you know, he does this every union. But there was a one point someone said something really nasty. I forget what it was, but they cut to Andy and he just was grinning and I was like, Andy, every time she said something below the belt, he's like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. His dream team, he said on in some article, I'm embarrassed that I even read it. They were like, who's your dream team of housewives if you were going to do an all-star season? He's like Adriana Tamara, Barney, it's like every evil, awful person, you know? Yeah. He's like one of those gays. It doesn't have enough wit to like come back to bullies. So he needed to get a really strong bitch behind him to tell everybody. Yeah. Believe it or not, my dad is actually reading his book, the one, the diary book. A lot of people love that book. Yeah. So my dad is reading it, which is a big surprise. And I guess he says in the book that Andy Cohen fasts up, he's like, yeah, he loves to make people squirm. I'm like, well, that's really terrible. Well, if he actually made people squirm, that would make him more fun, but he doesn't. He just kind of sits there looking all googly eyed, misreading cue cards and stuff. Now, like he's another one who would probably be fun if he had some kind of sense of, I don't even know what it is, if someone asked us last week, like, I don't get your hatred for Andy Cohen. And I really thought about it and I was like, I don't know either, but it's just there. It's like nature in me, you know, like when, like when my dog sees a dog, you know, another dog is hackle's rays. That's just how I feel. I feel the hair on the back of my neck just raise and like bile come up and I just like start bearing my teeth and I just want to bite him apart. My hatred isn't as strong as that, but I do feel like sometimes when he gives that shitty and grin or when he's asking really juvenile questions on watch what happens, I'm just sort of like, this guy is every time I'm like, maybe you're just jealous Ronnie, because he's successful and he's like actually part of Bravo while you just talk about it. Maybe you're just a fat jealous idiot queen. And then I turn on watch what happens like thinking, oh, I'm going to watch Andy's so nice. And he's like, all right, his wing is bigger, Obama's, or Ronald Reagan's, and he's asking like two Oscar winners, someone broke the other day. Andy has two people from Madman on and he's making them play like, you know, who's asked probably smells better, Kenya's or it's like, come on Andy, like, let's spin a wheel. Also, someone said he stole our bingo game or Katie's bingo game. More accurately. Really? Yeah. Well, good for her though, because that's, you know, she should be, she should get something out of that. That thing's amazing. Yeah. Well, she didn't get anything out of it. We can't just keep it for ourselves. Well, that's not good, but maybe she'll get publiccy and get that money, girl. Yeah, I know we're bitches on this show, but like if there's ever anything you want to steal or like ideas that you like, just pay us, we'll do it better. Yeah. Just because we're hateful doesn't mean we're not good employees. Ask any boss I've ever had. I can still slash your tires and have a drink with you after work. Oh, we're that bad apple sticker proudly Applebee's, I'm afraid of you. All right. What else do we have going on here today? There was a lot of talk about the wine glass throwing the wine. 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I mean, it's just ridiculous to even argue it, because if she threw it in her face or something, okay, but no one's dead, no one got hurt, and Brandy not allowed to go whine in someone's face, threaten to murder them, and gut them. And then what else did she do? She slapped somebody. I mean, you have no likes to stand on Brandy, like I don't even have enough anger to talk about her anymore. Yeah. Listen to me, I'm deflated. Yeah. It takes a lot out of it. Just, Brandy has dug up the awful side of Kim that has tortured probably the whole family, and that's in a way we should be thanking Brandy for that, because otherwise we would have thought she was just like a kooky, silly lady with drug problems. I liked her better than… Remember when she used to be like, "I was in the start of the day in the chicken section doing the chicken dance, because I love chickens." Yeah. And then this guy was like, "Hey, what are you dancing?" And I said, "Chickens, you want to come over?" And then the guy comes over to her house and she has family game nights. She's like, "Oh, this is awkward, sorry, how big is your day?" "Well, what's your favorite board game?" "What's your favorite movie I was in?" Like, that's the Kim I love, okay? Yeah. And if it requires meth, just stay on it and stop wasting your time with all of this nonsense. Whatever you're doing is not working, all right? So, Brandy does not look good on you. He was also the last time we really ever saw her whole family together. Because then if you see like a flash of a daughter here, a flash is on there, but they all kind of… They don't allow cameras and hospitals. Yeah, they kind of dispose. Sad joke about a family falling apart, mental health issues… Hey, say what you will about Kim. She certainly knows how to make a mean chicken salad. It's one thing she can do, she can look at picture frames and make a chicken salad with her hands. I got a new manicure with these gels that are so strong, they're better than wooden spoons. It's like having 10 wooden spoons during your chicken salad at the same time. My chicken salad doesn't actually have any chicken in it because it's just a salad that I'd make for chickens. It's cheap crunchy for humans, cowbroke or tooth, I'm going to try to sue me, bitch. Yeah. Cos niece, Cos daughter says that chicken tried to buy her, but like she shouldn't have been trying to chase the chicken with an axe. Oh, good. All right. Should we just move on? I think… Because I feel like our rage is better suited for the shots of sunset. Yeah. I mean, there have been so many deliveries of sliders over the course of the past half an hour that we've been talking. I mean, I'm surprised we haven't been sidetracked into the shots already. Okay. The shots of sunset are all people and all deserve to die. What do you guys think? I'm like you, Ronnie, this show is hard for me. Oh, it's not hard for me, but I do think they are awful people. I think, first of all, all the scenes between Gigi and Asafa are so blatantly scripted. Painful. Oh, that Asafa is just painful to watch. Yeah. She really is. She's… And yeah, pretty much every scene with Asafa because Asafa and her boyfriend, they're also like very scripted. It's just… Really… But we always fight. How come you didn't kiss me and you woke up? Your breath is bad. Why don't you blame me? She's talking me down like my name. La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la. So I'm sure you'll be quiet. Yeah. And then Gigi's new thing is she has rheumatoid arthritis, which I think someone posted on our Facebook page that she got RA tattooed on her finger. No. Which is like a stupidest thing. No. Hey, you know it helps arthritis getting a tattoo right on your knuckle. Oh my God, I'm still trying to get rid of the flu. RA. The tattoo that I put on my ass last Christmas. I know. I have a tattoo on my butt that says common cold. So I always get it, so I'm like a survivor. I've got gingivitis tattooed on my neck, getting cymbals. Uh, I've got hangnail tattooed on my knee. It's like I want it. Web toes on my ankle. Oh my… Eating disorder. Binge eating disorder on my belly button. Strip throat on my nipple. [Laughs] I like the idea of putting those tattoos nowhere close to the actual disease part of your body. Yeah. It's like wort on my toe on your neck. Yeah. Planter who wore it right by my eye. It's like in the shape of a teardrop, but I feel like in the teardrop it says planter wort. [Laughs] Um, well this episode started with Jessica and Mike in their house. And Jessica's just like, she's like, wow, I'm just so shocked. I'm so shocked that she would do this to us in the… I mean, how could she do… Okay, you know what I'd be asking you the next morning? Uh, did you try your fuck Gigi, your drunk idiot? Yeah. And who else have you tried to fuck? And I was looking at your Instagram and all these whores that you're talking back to on Instagram. You fucking them too, motherfucker. I just became a Jew for you. You think that shit's easy? Yeah, but well first of all, this scene was probably filmed like five days later. One of all, she probably set us up immediately in the car. Third of all, she's so obsessed with becoming a wife, especially a wife to someone who's on TV, that she's willing to give him a pass, because if you're not to get ahead of ourselves, but when he did pop the question, she said, yes, she just kept on saying, I'm gonna be a wife! I'm gonna be a wife! I was like, oh my God, shut up. Just get… Why can't we get more… You could've married like 20 teenagers by now. What are you doing? What are… the… what are what… she's been injecting into her face because something is not right with Jessica's face anymore. She went too far. She did. When she was skydiving, her face didn't even move, and the skydive went… I know. The… the… the professional skydiver was hiding behind her face to protect his own. I know. She's this woman. When you look like a motorcycle helmet, it's time to stop. Oh, it's true though, she has a frozen face. She looks like she's going for a Jennifer Lopez. I don't know what she's going to go. I even think that she may have had a chin implant, but I don't know. Someone could do it before and after. Things are… things are frozen and puffed up. That's for sure. Let it go. I'll tell you… I'll tell you who… I'll tell you who should not do anything to their face. Me? Is Mike's assistant Garrett? Holy shit. That guy? Yeah, that was the worst acting I've ever seen. He was like, "Hey, Mike, we've got to get these papers done." And Mike's like, "Oh, man, you tell him if those papers aren't signed, and if that… if that sweep… if he doesn't sweep the walk, I'm going to tell him off on the rental property." I'm so stressed, man. Look what Gigi's doing to me. Oh, she's changing my personality. Look, shut up. You don't even go to work. I didn't even go to office. I wasn't paying attention to Starbucks. I wasn't paying attention to any of that. I was just like looking at Garrett. He's like a hot, crisp and glover. Oh. Oh. Did you see it? Didn't you guys see it? I… No, I didn't because I was writing what it used… I don't want this show through my side eyes because I can't look at it face-on. I know. My side eye only with this show. I know. There are a lot of like unpleasant images to see on this show. A lot of like hairy images, a lot of hairy unpleasant. Mm-hmm. You know what it is, and I really… There is some kind of weird brew stew magic that Andy is able to do with some shows, and I always used to say it's aspirational, and Beverly Hills is always my favorite because it's aspirational. And like, you know, we talk a lot of shit, but there's a part of me that would be fine being Kyle. I mean, like… Do you know what I mean? Like, Timmy Moore of Look-A-Lite lives in Beverly Hills with a hot husband, has relatively kind of ugly taste, but it'll do. Like, there are worse things than to be Kyle Richards. Yes. Of course. You know what I mean? You can be Tim Richards. Yeah. Exactly. But I'm saying like, Beverly Hills here is just a little dry… It's a little bit glamorous every once in a while. You know, Denise Richards or Watts there is same heat, but you know, but I think with like, Shaw's, there's just… it's just all the flash and nothing else. It's a bit… Well, it's like all these people who are… whose parents are living in hobbles in East Hollywood while they're driving around $10,000 a month. Yeah. I mean, here's why… Here's why it's non-aspirational because one of the cast members literally lives across street from me. There's nothing to aspire to. I'm aspiring to across the street. Yeah, they're selling a phony product. Yeah. But I will say this, though. I love MJ's dogs. And I'm not even that much of a dog person. Her dogs are so hilarious to me. Pablo. The way Pablo was scratching his face against the couch. Or at one point when Reza was doing a Vita impersonation. And I don't know if anyone knows it, but the little dog was like pong at the couch. Did anyone see that? It was like… I re-watch it like 10 times a row. No, because I was watching that one while I was chopping vegetables. I think Angie and I have the same view over this show. I'm like, I'll do this while I'm cleaning. Well, I guess maybe… You're not watching what you're supposed to be watching. Yeah, because I was watching the dog. I was watching… But the dog was so funny. Maybe I'll put it on Vine later, because they're talking… And this dog just has his hands up. Like he wants to be part of the fun, and then it slowly retracts and his hands slowly slide off the couch. I was like, oh, that's like my childhood. One thing that I will give this show credit for is it's amazing how it can make me really like some of these idiots sometimes and then hate them again the very next week. And then like them. Like Reza, I mean Reza I saw in my neighborhood a few times, I think he was dating one of my neighbors or something, or hangs out with one of my neighbors or something. That's so Persian! Persian people love hanging out in neighborhoods. I would walk past him while I was walking Bueller, and I would just look at him like ew. Like I would give… I felt myself sneering. You know, like when you get that age where nothing's hidden anymore, you're just like ew, ew, ew. And you pass people… Do you guys see that? Well, I guess I'm older than you. But I'm hitting that age where I don't hide anything, and I'm just like, ew, gross! I'm just like the worst things walking on the street, like quote, unquote, under my breath, air quotes. But anyway, I do that to him, and I'm like, you can't… It's not reasonable to hate somebody like that from TV. But then weeks like this week, he was so funny that now I totally love him again. It's like me. When he was doing his Vida impersonation, that was kind of amazing. You're like, oh, so you're a Jew? You're a Jew man? Oh! So you have money, you have no money and no house, and you think you're going to be good enough for my daughter? So what you want with my MJ? He's like, evil doesn't die, okay? Vida's going to be around, she's here! So we're all going to die before her, evil doesn't die, okay? Make Vida happy! Okay, if you need me, call me on this number, I'll come save you. Yeah. That poor guy. I honestly Vida did not disappoint, wow, is she a cold bitch? She is so evil, whatever I want to show… Why do you make me eggs? You're supposed to make what mommy would like to eat? When I watch the show, I'm like, I can't believe she is so nasty, and yet so entertaining to watch. She is really an evil, nasty, awful person, probably one of the worst people on Bravo, but she's so entertaining. Yeah, she's from that mama joy school, and you know, when I was watching this, that's what kept going through my mind, the whole thing was like, poor MJ, every problem in that poor girl's life, from the way she looks to her inability to be in a relationship, it's the same with Candy that mother. It's from Vida. It's from the mother. It's from Vida. She didn't Vida, because remember, she was the one who cheated on the dad. But yeah, but just the way she treats her, the way she talks, their whole relationship is completely toxic, and I actually, like, I think that MJ is lucky that she actually found like a very sweet, humble, nice guy to treat her well. Yeah, yeah, because I mean, yeah, because that is tough. I mean, Vida does not give anything. I mean, when MJ says, like, hey, mom, like, don't you think he's like handsome and tall, and she's like, hmm. Why do you say it's tall? It's not tall. It's not tall. That's not tall. That's not tall. That's not tall. That's not tall. This is normal. Six one is normal. I'm like, no. No, it's not normal. That's not normal. That's not normal. But like, you know, you're holding the key. It's the same, like, you know, that's cute and charming if you're, like, a sexy 25-year-old and you're, you know, you can see past all that because you're, like, gonna, you know, be with this, like, this woman and you're, like, willing to put up with anything to be with her. You know, Andrea's older and, you know, she's, she's a big girl and she's a little bit of a prima donna. So, like, I just feel sort of bad for her because I'm like, this poor guy, and then he has to put up with that bullshit too, like, God, I was just sort of like, you know, she's got to do like candy and sort of respect her mother, but she needs, she's got to put up some boundary. Yeah. I think she, I think she's probably a lot better at putting up boundaries than candy. That's for sure. I mean, I think- Maybe. I don't know. Not, I'm not that much better, but like, I don't know. I mean, when she gets so upset, like, when, when MJ said, "Oh, you know what thing? You know what thing? I cook that. What's his face? I don't remember his name, Andy, Adam, whatever, that he likes." And she's like, "How would I know what he likes? I made them 15 minutes ago." Jesus. Yeah. Like, well, even entertain a rhetorical aspect of the question. That should be like, uh, high holidays, uh, situation only. Like, you, you know what I mean? Like, you see her on absolute necessary holidays and the rest of the time, like, short phone calls and- Well, that's all happening, especially if a baby comes in the picture, which may not- You little fat baby, do you want to look like your mother? Keep eating off that nipple and that's disgusting. You little pervert, your baby likes nipples. Pervert? Kill baby. Jew baby. It's so greedy for milk. You got nasty, nasty woman, that woman. She is. She should be like, you know, the fact of the matter is she's just like, "Joy, she's miserable, so MJ's got to be miserable." She's going to try and sabotage it. There should be, like, the real nasty moms of bro. Yes, the real grandmother is of whatever. It'll be a choice. Mama Joyce. It would be this one. You probably should put Patricia in from Southern Trump, even though she's, like, wonderful. She probably is not your person. Oh, she's evil. She's evil. I'll put her in. Who are the other evil mothers on the show? Would you have to put, like, a nice one in there, so put that nice Christian girl who is on Real Housewives of Orange County for one season? What was her name? Oh, yeah, yeah. Put her pots going on. Roll a coaster. Roll it. Later. Lydia. Lydia. Oh, she is always shaking your shoulder. Yeah. Well, Mama Elsa is probably too nice, so she probably shouldn't go on. Oh, what about, uh, well, no, Dr. Kim. Mama Elsa would be amazing. OK, Mama Elsa. Oh, no. We're supposed to be putting the nasty, we're supposed to be putting the nasty, we're supposed to be nasty. And Vida would make an amazing show. Oh, what about Dr. Karen Sierra's mother? I hate she. There's so many great mothers. Aren't there any good ones in Beverly Hills or...? No, because you can't tell their mothers, they just look like chucky cheese animatronic things. They don't even look old. New York, you're under any like past aggressive grandmothers or no, New Jersey. I guess not. Yeah. OK. I sign off. No, they don't have the same sense of family apparently on the East Coast as they do here. On the East Coast, they're like, my mom's a bitch, so I don't talk to her anymore. Well, there's Rosie's mom. Rosie and Kathy's mom is nice, but she wouldn't be good on the show. I mean, oh, that's true. The Jersey moms. Oh, my God. The Judas mother. She doesn't really talk. You know? Yeah, but you can tell she's miserable. She raised Joe. Yeah. That's true, too. She's got to have something and her just leave the camera on her long enough. And Kim's on her way. Yeah. Kim is on her way. Or Kim Zosia. Oh, Kim Zosiax, Mom. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. The Kim shot. Kim shot. She pissed that up for the party in a wedding. But you know what? Kim is smart. She shot her down. She was like, oh, you're going to be an asshole. Leave. Like, Kim don't care. You know, Kim is like, she's put, she's number one. Like, she don't care if that is her mother. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and sometimes like, that's how you have to be. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So what else here? Well, I was trying to defend himself. Reza and Vida, evil though. So Mike, Gigi, giving dating advice. What was that about? I don't even know. What was that? I don't remember that part. I think it was to Asifa where she's like, well, you know, you guys have to see if you're right for each other. And then you've got to like, you know, go the full road to get, like, who are you talking about? You're fucking jacks. Like, Jax is talking about who wants to fuck you on Twitter. Can we not take advice from Gigi? Yeah. You got all right. About anything. Yeah. You got rheumatoid arthritis. I just want, I just want one scene of her with an IV in her arm next to Daisy with legit cancer from blood, sweat, and hands. Yeah. See you. Yeah. Who's going to work? Yeah. Who is going to a legit job and is like, don't tell nobody. I don't want any help. Yeah. Like, yeah. Dignity and grace. Like, I can't have a baby because I can't even hold the baby. Like, no, please. God. Yeah. Exactly. That's called natural selection. Like, I didn't know that, I didn't know that like, that women with rheumatoid arthritis couldn't have like kids and I can't do it. They can't bend. They can't. That's God's way of stopping you from shaking that baby. Yeah. The thought of GG with a baby is beyond disturbing. That baby would be through a glass table in two seconds. Screw this baby, crash. That baby was mean to me. That baby tried to have sex with me. It wanted my nipple. Keep the tape, you give like slight rape. Oh my gosh. It's true. Okay. What else here? So, the first unbearable. I wrote rheumatoid arthritis can't hold baby. So then the main thing I think is that Mike got engaged. Then he went, he got and he took Jessica up in a Rolls Royce, which he drove, which, you know, it's funny. I have, here's, on yesterday's podcast, I made a little bit of a rant about Lulu Lemon and under armor polo shirts, so here's another pet peeve. And this is a pet peeve that I think I will never actually have to encounter personally. But like, if you have a Rolls Royce, like, and you're driving the Rolls Royce, like, you're supposed to be a passenger in a Rolls Royce. The whole point of the Rolls Royce is just supposed to have a chauffeur and you're supposed to be a passenger. Sitting in the driver's seat of a Rolls Royce is gross. Well, no, it's the whole thing. It's, it's, that's why I'm saying it's a pet peeve. It's not a big deal. Yeah. Like when people drive one of those black sedans, you know, like, what are you, what are you, a taxi driver? Like, did somebody call you to pick me up? What do you do? Yeah, that's what I say. It's like, it's become normalized. It's like a wealthy people drive Rolls Royces around, like, that's become the thing. But like, the truth is there, it's not real. You should be driven. You're supposed to be driven in them. So it like, it always cracks me up. So when he's like, yeah, I got our Rolls Royce, I'm like, but you didn't get the driver. Yeah. Like, hey, baby, I'm driving a Hummer bus. That was, that's what you're talking about. I got us a party bus on the driver. Yeah. You go back there, help yourself to some father go out or go way back. I got us a horse-drawn carriage. You get in the back guy, I got the horses. It's just so silly to me. I don't know. Like, I know, like, I should be so lucky to ever be in a position where I could drive a Rolls Royce. But, you know, I just have to say it for a while. I also love the whole irony of like, let's jump out of a plane when we can, when we could die. Yeah. Well, he's proposing. That's the exact opposite of that one movie. Very short engagement. That was truly, honestly, I think it was one of the most annoying proposals I've ever seen on TV. Yeah. There have been a lot of annoying ones. But first of all, you know, I don't like, I'm not a big fan of stunt proposals. I also feel like if I were, if I were the lady being proposed to, I, I don't know if I want a like, hey, will you marry me and then he jumps out of the plane. Like, I, I want to like share in that moment with that person, right? Like, it's not even so much about like the stunt, but the fact that like, asking the question and then like disappearing, you know? Yeah. Yeah. When, when she's chained to another man, she's like tied to the man and has to fly down with her. Yeah. And she's like shaking so controllably on him, he probably got a halfy on the way down. Like, this is the least romantic thing you could have possibly done. I know. And then, you know, this is going to be a very superficial comment. understand but she has the most annoying sob sounds of all time. She's like no. She sounds like a siren that never goes back up. It was like that and then she just kept on sobbing and sobbing. Get on me. Oh god. It's like shut the fuck up. I hope the plane crashes on your face. Some man wants me forever. What a way. What happened feminist? Where? Where? I know. I know. That's exactly what I was thinking. I know. Like congratulations on achieving your life dream of having some man approve of you now that your face. Watch or get mad being like I can't believe for a very special proposal you had to do it on camera while wearing the most like the least flattering outfit of all time. I'm in a big sack. You just know that's what's going to be one of her things. Yeah that shows pretty sad and awful but you know it's made me like Reza again this week and and MJ too. I like it. This show is a miracle worker. You've got to hand it to Ryan Seacrest because Andy has nothing to do with this one. This is all Ryan Seacrest. I like it. I like I like the show. He was also behind the Kardashians. Yeah. Well I like I like the show but I have to say what I what I like the most is transitioning from Shah's to southern charm because then things got classy again. I think that since Ryan see I know that was a segue but I just have to say real quick I think that since Ryan Seacrest is now like an Andy Cohen producing all these hit shows that he should be the Andy Cohen in the reunions because I would he's actually like kind of journalistic. I mean I know he's like red carpet journalistic. He would just be like what are you wearing but still like we could see his mouth open really wide. I love that. He'd be good. He'd be making jokes the entire time. Yeah. He'd be like a high like fist bumping everybody. He'd be like that that Australian guy with the sunglasses who interviewed the real house as a Melbourne who's like oh that's a lovely lovely outfit. You know you're just wonderful. I think you think you're wonderful. I think I think everyone in the audience would agree that you were just lovely this season. That guy Alex Perry or something. Yeah. Here's the one who was like oh you know what I'll just think that this is all about bullying. It's systematic bullying. I got a quit because people were so mean on Twitter because he was going against a genome and people are like you're gonna die. And he's like people giving me death threats. He's like the the people from the pizza company. The getting pizza company. It's like people wanted me to close down my pizza shop. I'm making no sense now. No I got it. I was like inhaling as you said it so then I had to exhale. Yeah take me like a drug. Take my non my nonsense rants as a drug band. Is everyone ready to go to Charleston? Yeah. Home of the latest racially infused murder. You know it I'll have to say like I kind of was reading about that because I going back to what I said before I should not like this show. This show is quite aspirational. Yes. I mean it is the most. I mean it is but it's not. But I mean Charleston is so beautiful. These are people who have real money. And I just like all I want if they literally just fall in Patricia or not even Patricia they could follow that butler around my house. Yeah. That's all I want. Me too. I just all I want to do is blink it. Dusting off figurines and like dust-bustering boas. Yeah. And I mean not even house but like because these are technically plantations but like T-rabs plantation just like the kitchen. I mean these people do nothing they were just given all of this. Exactly. And they don't and they don't really get into fights the way other bravo starts. They don't gossip the same way. No they don't hear. They don't I mean they get into they get into spats and they do gossip but it's really in a different map. It's a very it's a. They give each other shit to some real adults. They're like this is a weird show because this is Whitney just being like you guys want to be in a reality show I'm going to produce it and they're like okay. And the funny thing is that Whitney is the one who looks like the biggest idiot. I know. He's the worst. He's the one struggling to be a reality star and be douchey and be cool. He's succeeded in the douche department. The worst complete with every douche's favorite accessory a fucking terrible hair piece. Oh my goodness. And the only thing worse is he covers up the terrible hair piece with a jumba's clown room hat. When I saw that hat I was like oh you're that mother like you are that guy. Yeah making up songs about seventh veil over here on Sunset. By the way that's such the right of me as MJ to the left me a seventh veil. I'm I'm pinned in by by bravo references. That's terrible. I'm I'm texting that no I can't go to Starbucks right now in a very important conversation on southern charm. I know I would love some Starbucks but my stomach can't handle it. This show is like I I mean I'm from there so I I'd like to see it and it reminds me of a lot of stuff and I like North Carolina right. One from the south but yeah I mean but meaning you're because this is in South Carolina you're not. Yeah yeah but it does. I mean I wasn't saying it in a like you're not I wasn't challenging you I was more like just isolating wearing this. Where are you from North Carolina did you say? Yeah I thought you were from Fort Worth. Man I told everybody on the podcast you're from Fort Worth. No the thing that so I don't know like whenever I look at these guys and especially you know there is a very distinct lack of color on this show and I think well Catherine Catherine does have red hair if that's what you mean. I think about those idiots listen chingers are a minority alright black woman. I think about the idiots on that bus singing that fraternity song in those blue blazers and then because that too this is and then I you know there was the horrible shooting yesterday in Charleston on the poor side of Charles it was not over where these people live it was like on the side. Just kidding. But I did notice because I follow a lot of these people on Twitter and Cameron who I actually think is quite lovely she was saying that she brought it up and she said that the show is does not represent Charleston in the best light as far as diversity and she said she thinks that's wrong. Yeah she's right and because there is a whole side a real a really bad side of Charleston and that's right. I mean it's a completely segregated town. Right. Yeah. Yeah but I mean it was also built by slaves and there's a very strong historical context about slavery and people from Charleston talk about it they're very open about it. I mean it's part of the culture and the history of Charleston but I mean it's just like it's weird just because this show is so white you never you don't even see any black like people working in the stores in the restaurants. Yeah or Mexicans or anybody really. Yeah there is like a white blonde lady in the kitchen at Generalissimo I guarantee the nanny's white. Like I mean even the homosexual looks like he fell off a fucking pink unicorn truck from some other town. It's like some dinner theater. It's like if you have Florida and he showed up here on accident state. Yeah if you have freckles you were like opening up the latest if you have freckles on this show then you were like representing like the NAACP. I mean that's like as that's as like close as well. On the first reunion last year Andy was asking about that and the Civil War and comments that Thomas Ravenall had made about it and he's like listen my father wasn't you know against the Civil War he just didn't want he just didn't like the people had to die. Oh your father is such a good fucking person fighting for the wrong side on the Civil War. Maybe people wouldn't have had to die had they not been insisting on keeping slaves and beating them to death. Yeah so let's let's just forget about that part. I feel that grandfather was a wonderful man. He just didn't like violence unless it was directed at his slave of course because he owned them. Like oh my god. I feel like it's you know it's interesting when we talk about like when you mentioned like Angie like the whole SAE bus racial incident whatever and it's true because you know you do see these people and and that's like a trademark of this wealthy genteel southern white class of like you know seemingly perfect and friendly on the outside and beautiful and then harboring these very racist feelings on the inside. I feel like Shep and Cameron those are the two that first spring to mind of people who I wouldn't who I don't believe are actually like that. I think they actually are like very progressive. I wouldn't be surprised if Craig was a little bit like that. I wouldn't be surprised if Whitney was like that believe it or not. Because as much as he tries to be all trendy and jumbo's clown remitted. He is a full on conservative. I wouldn't be surprised. T. Rav was a little bit like that. Well there's you know there is just something about I know that this sounds so stupid to say but I'm going to say it anyway because it's the truth. There is such a thing about just growing up in white culture. I mean I grew up in Texas and my half my family is Lebanese so they had knew nothing about being white. So that kind of that's why I guess I'm free making fun of every minority as much. But then my white side of the family is from Indiana which is an extremely racist town and when the town they were from Salem, Indiana was when we went into a grandi's to eat one black person came in and the entire restaurant stared at this black person and it's like you know the things they think about gay people or the things they've said to me over the years about gayness. I've just had to end the things they say about minorities of all kinds. Just the things that come out of people's mouths are so despicable but at the same time you're like that's what they believe because then that's how they were raised and we just need to keep snapping it out with generation to generation because it's almost like they don't know better. I mean and I know we all know better but I don't know it's like if you were raised in a crazy religion and then you realize as an adult that it was crazy but you're still they're still part of you that's like praying to Jesus if you're to stop like you know like why am I doing that? I think the thing for me is like you would think because of the history of a place like Charleston and because of the stereotype who I think someone like Cameron's probably trying to buck but you would think that they would make a concerted effort to fight that and even just stick some like black people in like if they're having a party scene or if they're like I did notice in the fashion show he had black models on the wall and I know there are black people in Charleston and I know they socialize with some of them but you would sort of think like Winnie because I actually have talked to friends from Charleston and friends who are kind of from that kind of social group that I grew up with and they're like this show is a disgrace like they're totally embarrassed and that's like the kind of thing that they do not want that's not the impression they want to make and well this show is one of those shows I mean Whitney really did pull it together as one of his stupid little projects and we see his projects it's like a documentary on the statue or whatever or whoever it was it's just terrible projects and it was that year that Bravo picked up like 50 shows do you remember that last year they picked up like 60 shows or something ridiculous and just threw everything at a wall that they possibly could and this one happened to stick and I don't think that anybody even thought about the racial diversity because it's Whitney putting it together of just his friends and you know he doesn't know any black people I mean look at his mother his mother is like the quintessential southern asshole you know she's just a fucking asshole um even though she's hilarious to us you know she's in all you would just think that people would be more sensitive and be like we really want to dispel ideas about the sound you would hope so well okay well I mean he can't just make a friend he can't just like bring a black person on as a cast member when he doesn't know that like here's here's my friend here's my friend from LA and Thomas Robinson will be like oh well you know those Hollywood tops make an art and comedy and such well not even like that obviously some more racial diversity show I guess just because when I look at it and I hear those accents and I see a lack and they're saying all my plantation I'm just like oh god like somebody do something to make us stop thinking like y'all are all you know yeah what you are yeah I agree but I think that at this point if they did that you know if they brought on like a black person it would be uh or any minority really it would be so awkward because it would be obvious they were just doing that you know to be politically correct right don't you yeah they would be doing it to be politically correct but it also it would be like so you like basketball I mean could you imagine this cast around a black person they wouldn't even know what to do with themselves or maybe they even just talked about the history like if Thomas said like well the reason we call you know plantation is kind of a loaded word but this is the reason I don't know if somebody just how about they just have Landon how about Landon goes off to see and then she comes back and she's like guess who I found at sea a black man he comes on board listen even if even if they're doing it just to be politically correct sometimes it's like you know that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world no and I actually like Landon too she lived in LA also yeah she we've all we're all from a kind of more progressive places and um I think that we just I think part of the reason this show is fun is because it's from somewhere that's not really caught up at all it's like its own little planet like when I look at it it looks like a movie set it looks yeah to me it just looks completely crazy it's a world I don't understand I mean I'm from Texas but that ain't the real south I mean I'm from Mexico I'm from Mexico it really reminds me it also really reminds me of college and the and it's because I went to college in the northeast I've mentioned this before in the podcast but you know growing up in the northeast you know I grew up in Westchester New York which is a pretty preppy area you know it was like a pretty standard thing that you'd be wearing khakis places and then you know then you go to going to college in New Hampshire it's just more khakis and fleece and things like that and so obviously at a university or college you know there'll be people from all across the country and so there were people obviously from across the country and there was a there was a very there were a lot of people from the south you know sort of like equally represented not equally but like you know like a normal representation of that and you see them and I wouldn't think like oh look at those southern people look at that but it's more like in hindsight when I look now living in LA which is a totally different place than the northeast or the south but yeah when you when you come here and you see that people aren't wearing khakis or are dressed differently and I've been out here 13 years and that's where we've gotten used to the way people look in LA etc so then when I see these people on southern charm it reminds me oh my god that looks so much like the guys who were in saiyu you know and I realize back then they just seemed like there were the saiyu guys they were a little preppier than I was but they were the saiyu guys but now looking back it's like oh my god there was actually a huge cultural gap there that I sort of didn't even realize until I sort of stepped out of like those people look like their fathers they look like their grandfather like their kids are going to look like that like that's like that whole preppucetic and that lifestyle never changes right and I think there's a lot of like value in that too there's like something really great about that and then there's also something you know that like I don't want to say scary but like like there's something very limiting about that too yeah well one thing maybe I'm kind of a deeper level sorry but one thing that this is making me think of is like real life and how real life isn't very integrated you know I mean I was at a wedding recently and it was all white people I mean there were hundreds of people there there were two black people and they were a couple in the whole place and I was like really and I kind of look around and I'm like are we really still segregate because now I feel like we're self-segregating I know in Austin there's a diverse community but it's well I've never seen that many white people and maybe it's because I'm from El Paso but a lot of people a lot of black people live in Austin but not in the same places necessarily it feels like the world is self-segregating well that's probably economic I think a lot of that's like economic like here there's Mexican neighborhoods there's Jewish neighborhoods well that's also but that's also that's it's weird because when you talk about immigrant sort of neighborhoods based on like immigrant neighborhoods etc it's different because sometimes like if you have new people coming to the neighborhood from you know like different countries or whatever you know sometimes you need the support of a community around you or like if you don't speak English as well etc like well I guess that's a little different than that one time I went to dinner in Austin and crossed the tracks like literally crossed the dream tracks over the i-35 okay and because I was asking like what you know for soul food or whatever so they were like oh well you just have to go to this neighborhood so I went over the tracks and I was like really it's all black people this is where the black people are because for the longest time I was like why is Austin so white it's like a huge metropolitan city that's musical and I'm not saying the whole city is like that I'm just saying that it's a definite if you've ever been there it's a definite crossing the track it's the same in Charleston it's the same in Austin it's the same in Durham North Carolina like a lot of these college towns that's what happens because all the money is at the university and then the rest of the town is impoverished and that happens I mean I think that's just kind of like a natural trickle-out theory but yeah I was probably wondered about that but I'll tell you one damn thing I will be so happy to move in Patricia's neighborhood that is a nice town and me with you yeah and I'll tell you I told my friend all the time I'm kind of like what would it take for my my good friend who's gay who does my show with me what would it take for us to just bust in a Charleston society I'm like you're white I'm black but I'm fun and we're both Southern black but I'm fun what do we have to do to get in because I need to be in one of those houses yeah well I think every race wonders that when they were all like how the hell did these people do it that cuz that sounds like it could be like a racist sitcom where like he moves he's gay you're black you guys like move into this into this neighborhood and he pretends to be straight and you pretend to be his maid but then when like no one's there like you admit that you're like not his maid just so you can get in yeah I think one of the most freeing things that I found in my life is being biracial like I tried to be so freeing to not have to identify as white even though the government technically does I really find it just so freeing to not have to identify with a race and if I could ever start a movement it would not be for gay people or Mexican people or black people it would be for all of us to just fuck each other to the point that there is no more race like we just love us to just all be a weird mix of pretty eyes and kinky hair and just get on with it I think you should get Lisa from Real House House of Miami to get on board with your platform as she is a immigrant from Canada you should you should tweet that at Whitney's mother and see what she says yeah exactly listen stamp out the white my cramp my papa was like well you know in 20 years Latinos are going to be above the white people in the in the census and I was like so what so what who cares how is that not better like the white people who seem to be doing that rate of a job running the country let's you know let's give other people a chance yeah let's mix it up guys so you're saying you'd prefer tuning Castro over Ceviche let's start hating each other each other over real things like our performance it reunions okay or a bad plastic surgery well the point is there's show nothing happens but it's so beautiful that I I'm compelled to watch it right well some things did happen this week um so uh first of all the episode we've been talking about it with that segue I'm like I'm done I'm like that race it's the elephant in the room the pink it is the republican elephant in the room and it would be pink since Charleston yeah no so um so it pretty much like picked up with um t-rav and kathryn having that argument about his horrendous commercial uh and then she storms off and then what I like to test out like the next day when she's like complaining about or talking about the argument to um to danny this was clearly filmed like five months later because she's suddenly like skinny again and she's like I just can't believe how I acted last night I'm like please don't like don't patronize us like we can see she's lost all her baby weight and the next scene it's all back really bothered well I just love like you know I love listening to to people that I hate on the radio it's just so entertaining for me so I listen to like I've listened to rush I've had that moment where I listen to rush I used to listen to dr laura all the time and one thing dr laura used to say that I love when people called people like her kathryn just kathryn would be like well he just totally disrespected us and i can't believe he would do that and dr laura would be like you're 23 you married an old person for his money stupid twat this is your fault i don't feel sorry for you click yeah the end it's like conversation over that's the kind of friendship he needs like what do you think you're getting into you're marrying some old rich man for his money you fucked all of his friends first trying to get somewhere and now you're gonna try and act like you should be jackie oh no jackie ho but you don't get anything for fucking somebody when you're 21 okay you need to back the fuck down and accomplish something in your life you don't even know how to use words properly and she's like she's like listen i'm not stupid i majored in politics oh yeah she needs to stop saying politics i'm measuring politics don't condescend me don't condescend and if Whitney's making you look stupid that's not cute yeah i felt so sorry for that girl when she was like you know she tried to kind of bolster herself with that cigarette and her little sad friends and then she was sort of like um Whitney like and i was just like and when he just kind of crushed her i mean he's just like licked her away but you know but you know what though he couldn't but he was still you know what believe it or not i think his needs were actually trembling because he got a few of his asshole lines in but he had a look on his face like oh my god like how like can i shut up this crazy girl oh my god oh my god oh my god like he sort of had that look in his eye and you know what the truth is that what Catherine was saying to him i wasn't disagreeing i actually thought like when she finally was like you wasted his money you waste his money i was like you know what she is absolutely right he did waste that's you know he's running a ghetto enough campaign the last thing he needs to do is lose twenty thousand dollars on a ridiculous ridiculous friend she should be yelling at him she did she did yell robin what's her buns from house of cards it's her name uh robin pen that's not her name anymore sorry so rude to not remember her real name but robin right robin right thank you yeah she's trying to be able robin right it's like listen robin right earned that shit on the show she didn't just you can't just go hillary clinton on the staff when you're some 23 year old who doesn't know anything true but she's not but you happen to be right in that case but to start crying and saying you guys are mean to me it's the wrong way if you're gonna be a politician's wife you need to be like hey listen i saw your commercial i appreciate what you were trying to do but like we need to make this like a family angle if i'm gonna be the wife and we're gonna have a baby and we're gonna do this right why don't we start playing that up no you know she needs to have an intelligent conversation she's acting she you know she's just a baby like that part when she was like i mean i have changed so much for this relation oh yeah i have like 30 blazer blazers oh that's so lord you're shocked with somebody else's money to buy some blazers at tj max okay that does not make you hillary clinton you need to back the fuck down you need to start lying about fucking uh embassies being attacked or something and i you know i i feel sort of bad because that show was bringing up all like there it there was this really disgusting frat boy like whitney going around with that phone showing everybody that video and they were like you know elbowing each other and laughing and then in turn like laughing at catheterine and then it went on a phone yeah and then you know at one point one of these jerks was like said to one of the women oh i don't mean any disrespect but she don't even and i was just like i grew up being talked to that way and hearing like there's it's you know there is i think most of these guys like i think shep seems like a decent guy and but there is this really gross old school like you honey you just need to sit on and let the man do the yeah i hate darling kathryn is not right i think that uh mj may have burned her sliders that she was defrosting sorry anyway i just that i did you know is silly she is i i remember like that is part of it too and it's so insulting and i was just like oh god that is your right right and i'm being too hard on her i think that i get hard on i get harder on them because i got hard on when i think about kathryn hey i'm not sick kathryn but you know what makes me crazy about it is that i don't like women keeping each other down it makes me nuts and we were talking about this a little off the air about other things but i don't like that i feel like if you're a woman you have a responsibility to other women to not be an idiot you have a responsibility to not marry somebody for his money and get pregnant on purpose to trap him and then pretend you're Jackie like to me that's just like she's putting herself in a situation instead of going and fighting someone with proper you know and like really doing it and trying to like find a real relate she's trying to climb some kind of weird ladder and she's trying to get stuff to where i don't really respect her as a woman like i don't think just because you have a vagina you automatically deserve respect i think that she needs to earn that and frankly speaking of people who have been given shit they didn't earn thomas is the perfect example of that he didn't earn shit he got everywhere he was because of his name his family name and his family money and he fucked it up by doing coke and like selling coke from the i mean talk about yeah she's trying to get respect from someone who's completely disreputable yeah i mean i don't think she's even trying to social climb that much because apparently she comes from like a name anyway but um yeah i feel like it's 21 fucking all of those friends trying to be one of them right i think she was just like a slap one rip person i think she was just like sleeping around she's having some fun she's having fun and i think i know i slush him because i called her a slap but i and truthfully i you literally slush him but i slush you know i know but i but but truthfully i do think she was just having fun sleeping around whatever as she's entitled to and she should go get it but i think that she got knocked up by tatirav and i but i think that she actually has some stars in her eyes with him and i think that like i don't think that she's a gold digger um and and admittedly she's not messing with a bro person no she's definitely not missing the broke person but um but i think that she has i think she has fallen for thomas and i think that she's seeing a storybook situation where it's like here's a wealthy guy and i'm a wealthy girl and this and that he's gonna be a politician so i don't think that she's trying to just who refuse to marry me even if i after i had a baby and then hit me in the middle of the country where no one would ever see me around town anymore and then refuses to have me on political at i mean to me that's just like girl yeah it's it's it's a storybook romance have fun it was a happy ending around in it like a little worm for the rest of your life have some self respect but the point is she's young she's for the point is i don't think that she's as i don't think she's as calculating as you were making her out no she's not i think that she's like young and naive okay young and naive and she's in love she's not the brightest even though she did major in politics i'm sorry but you guys you cannot marry thomas ravenell and then wonder why he's an idiot well guess why she hasn't married him okay it goes beyond feminism or anything like that it's like take responsibility for your own bullshit you married someone you knew was uh not even married she's not well yes you know she should have made her sociology instead basically have some self respect well the living question is why don't land in and shep just get together what's what that seems so obvious to me she's probably because her weird talking makes him feel weird because he doesn't know even what accent she has that is actually the way she laughs that is actually exactly the way she laughs modeling i don't know i think i think she's very cute very sweet and cute they both also seem to have that kind of middle the red personality like they're the easy go-and-ones they seem to enjoy being around each other i don't i just think i actually like boys that have girlfriends like that yeah which i think it's very sweet he brings you out of here he's sweet all right he's a little catch because you know what though they play him down like he's this bachelor whatever but to me he seems like he's razor sharp like he is a smart guy he's very smart he went to Vanderbilt business school which is not something you just like walk into no he's very clever he makes very sharp references like he's like he's smart he's legit he's having fun with his life but he's also like he's not just a dumb bachelor now Craig on the other hand he's a real problem he is uh you know he i always think it's funny when they have a show a reality show in like a town that's not like New York or LA or Miami or Paris where someone's like talking about modeling and i was like oh honey you just uh you're you ain't making a living you're in Charleston yeah i mean yeah he's Nick what he was Nick's character in the great Gatsby uh why aren't you stupid for that no but he is that guy like he's that you know he wants so desperately to be a part of this and you know everybody's telling him like look these idiots have been given everything like you have to work except he's not endearing like Nick he's like he is a little bit and he's so smart because he's so he wants that so bad and like he doesn't realize like to have that kind of blasé like oh that's just from never having to do anything your whole life so you can't fake that the problem with him is that he wants it so bad but like i feel like Nick from the great Gatsby was like wide-eyed and was like wow i'm finally in this world and Craig you get the feeling like he would push other people down to get into the slot that he's carving out for himself you know like he's like one of those evil people like that and i don't like yes he's like the the that movie with Philip Seymour Hoffman and Bat Dane yeah yeah he's a talented mr vidbar well Cameron you know nailed it she nails she's pretty good she nailed him she's like she wants he wants chefs like without doing the work you know chef sure does she's a chef chef chef chef chef estado she can come along too but um you know Craig it by the way Craig is like he's an idiot for thinking that he can start studying for the bar in december and they'll all be okay as if like december is this month that has no distractions and the bar is just some multiple choice you know yeah exactly but now that's an ambulance that just drove by so mj is clearly had a slider no mj is choking on a slider darling get her to the ICU um but uh yeah i mean i wonder if that's maybe for the show maybe they're just trying to make him seem like he's responsible but like i mean that's crazy i mean people study for months for the bar and he just is like yeah he doesn't have any story i think they're trying to like kind of make a story yeah and they had a lot of close-ups on his face and that was not a not a uh you know hd cameras change everything don't they girl i watched it on the computer so it's small thank goodness i watched real housewives reunion part one on the hd and i was like wow i've missed a lot of jokes this year yeah a lot of jokes i'm like is this a uh is this a a documentary about the grand canyon or canyons of the world crevasses and crevasses you know um things what was i gonna say yeah uh the only thing the only part of patricia we even got this week was patricia getting uh needle stuck in her head and the dog needle stuck in her head to try and make her look like you can't drink or have sex for an hour after this and she's not sure it can be a mad mom show i think too oh yeah we have her in there oh she is okay good yeah his leg keeps going out so i'm getting an acupuncture like that i'm just gonna have one has to do with the other don't stop walking funny maybe stop tripping over and drunk when you're trying to get up the stairs because you know she do wait and he probably kicks him there's a reason mommy loves me mommy loves me you don't have a band you never learned how to play the guitar why do you get all the love you'll fuck her yeah there's a reason we always see patricia sitting down have we ever even seen her walking anywhere i think that party where she was standing up yeah outside she's like it is god awful hada she glides she glides she doesn't see out in the heat with terrible wine i want her to just be on one of those electronic chairs it goes up and down the stairs yes just making honest everybody who passes by on this yeah Whitney i'm ready for dinner i'm coming down i don't like her i don't like her i don't like her let me say it again i do not like her oh boy whatever happened to Whitney's trashy assistant oh god she probably got pregnant and was sent off to some nunnery by patricia back in my day girls was sent to a home for rotten vaginas until he came back with a business degree and stretch moths this is degree oh my god it's brilliant oh what else happened on this that's wrote Cameron and how does well there was a how did Cameron and Shep eat like fat and stay like that they were eating gigantic pieces of fried chicken over mashed potatoes just laughing and having fun me and my friends were doing that our conversation would be this have you given up no have you no but it's just fun today i know we'll start again tomorrow please do it again we hug and write it on my fitness palace like one to itsy roll i think ship just surfs all day yeah to be rich skinny and blonde oh the dream guys we can all have it yeah we can all have it all right well uh that's that's nice aspiration for next week i i would say i think i think i think we have i think we have really exhausted all our topics today so um angie thank you so much for coming back on this show this is a big whole episode your duty this week is to watch the jinx done jinx do it say it's worth it you guys say at the same time done jinx no say say the jinx at the same time the jinx jinx jinxed i jinxed you too even though you didn't really see at the same time and ruin my joke it's okay there was no there was no there was no jinx no one owes anybody a coke bam stop trying to make jokes and just get me a coke you have the biggest double standard i have ever seen baby i don't like it i don't like it i don't like it that's so persian persians are like oh my god you reach jinx and white people are like what's a jinx i don't know what a jinx is let's go shoot a white person persians don't have jinxes we have gold we have gold in 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