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Spread the knees, tell the neighbors. - No, I'm just kidding, they don't. Penis almost exploded, I don't have penis pumps, yeah. So we have a big announcement. So we originally, when we started this Patreon thing, Patreon.com/Watch what Crapins, where you can come subscribe and get bonus episodes and ringers and a monthly party and all that stuff, which has been a great success. We did not know that it was gonna get such a good response and so we set a really high goal number for doing a second episode every week. We set a goal number of $1,000 thinking, well, that'll never happen. - One thousand per episode. - Yeah, so we thought that'll never happen. And you guys really came through and have almost gotten us there. We hit 850 today, which is crazy. And that is way more than we ever thought we would get. So we decided since there's so much content, we're being stupid at waiting for it to get to be $1,000. So we are going to start next week doing two free episodes a week. So we'll be doing Melbourne, Southern Charms. Wait, I forgot, who cares? There will be two episodes a week. - Tuesdays and Thursdays. - Yes, Tuesday and Thursday afternoon, they will be coming out, so check for that. - 'Cause there are too many shows now. There are just too many shows. We can't fit them all in one hour and we feel bad leaving certain ones out. - Yes, and we will still have the bonus episode every week and the ringers and the hangout and all that good stuff. So if you guys have not subscribed, please go do that. It's still worth it. There's a lot of good stuff to be had there. We are loving doing this show and we are upping our commitment to you guys next week. - And in fact, I will go right now and go on to the Patreon page and say that we've hit our first goal. - Yeah, even though we changed it, you know. - I'm gonna change the goal to 850 and then we'll say we did it. - We've got so many shows to talk about. We're short shifting them. Also everybody who's giving me shit about not watching "Shaws of Sunset" and saying I'm a spoiled brat and I'm on a bravo show and I should do it anyway. Okay, you're right. So I did catch up with all my Shaws. So shut the fuck up and thank you for your advice. Okay, I listened to you. So I'm glad to tell you to shut the fuck up 'cause I took your advice and I did what you strongly to do 'cause I'm a pussy. So anyway, next week we're starting a double show. That's probably all you need here for me at the beginning. Who cares about Walmart? Who cares about, you know, the Rose, what's that flower place? A fucking flower candy place. Who cares about all our sponsors, all right? All this sponsor time, screw you. We're just thanking the subscribers. All right, they're who really matters. They're the real, those are all people, all right? Sherri's, Barry's. - They're the tuna tarshar and our pump restaurants. - Yeah, so as Kristin Dowtay would say, if you're not one of our listeners, suck a dick. - Yeah. - All right, so we've got like-- - Seriously? - Seriously? - Sweet about like the sweetest way. (laughing) - We've got like 19 hours of programming to discuss this week, so let's just get on the bowl with it. Ben, what would you like to talk about first? Oh, did I forget something? - No, I'm just happy to say that now our Patreon page, 'cause I just adjusted our first goal from 1,000 to 850, and now has a little thing on there that says reached with an exclamation point. - While we did it. - While we did it. We did it. - I'm glad they don't say reached by cheating. - Oh, no, Gina, that would an awful thing to say. - By the way, we talked about this a tiny bit on the bonus episode, but if you didn't know about this, this was posted on our wall. And it turns out, Gina, Gina Leano, has a new book out called Fearless. My Life, My Way, go read it. If you'd like, send us a copy, and we'll spend a few episodes just reading that out loud to you on your wall. - We're on your run. - You know, just send it to us, right, we'll just make an appeal to Gina herself. - Yeah, yeah, what the hell, Gina? - Gina, Gina, I put you on a list of the best housewives on Rancher.com. Where's the thing? Where's the gratitude? (laughing) - All right, so what show you wanna talk about first, Ben? - Oh, well, I think we should probably start with Beverly Hills, 'cause that was the most incendiary. Although we had a bunch of incendiary episodes this week of everything, but I think we should start with Beverly Hills. - Okay, we've also got some extras here for Beverly Hills. So once we've, if I don't mention the extras, please remind me that we have extras, 'cause they're good. - Okay. - Okay, so real housewives of Beverly Hills. Let's talk about that show. Ben, what did you think? A lot of our commenters were saying boring, snooze, blah, but I thought it was pretty fun. - Oh, I was like hanging on to every moment of it. I loved it. - Yeah, I thought it was pretty fun. - Yeah, well, let's see, I started with like Nikki Hilton having some signing at, - Kyle's Dollar Tree store. Okay, so listen, wasn't Nikki the brunette one? - Yeah, I think at some point she will, as yeah. - And then she changed over to be platinum blonde. Why would you do that? Standing next to Paris. If you're the homelier sister, I like that she was like the one with a brain and a real job and a brunette, you know, like her natural hair. What is she doing? What do you think? - I don't know, I mean, she was pretty. I think she's allowed to go whichever way she wants with her hair. I just think it's funny that the ants were all like proud, where they were like, well, you know, Nikki, she was listed as one of the most fashionable people of all time when she was 15. And I was like, I mean, that was like so long ago. - And now she's signing books in a Dollar Tree. How far she's come? - Yeah, exactly. I think, yeah, it was sort of random, you know, Paris was there, Cathy was there. And then the strangest part to me was when Maurice's mother Estella or Estrella, whatever her name is, showed up with this strange like German prince on her arm. He sort of looked like a cartoon character. I'm trying to, sort of like almost like a Mr. Incredible, but like not as like barrel-chested. - Yes. - You know, he looked definitely like a cartoon character. He did, and listen, if you're a prince, I mean, you guys got wigs over there, right? I mean, does America have to do everything for you? You need a wig, a rug, some spray hair, a shave. You need something. We need to get some American fagito. Hair, I'm good with all hair. I was just talking, I didn't even know she were gone until I heard a lot of things. - I was gone, I was gone, what did you say? - I was just saying that little country needs some wigs. I mean, what the hell? They don't have wigs in his country. If you're like the richest guy in the country and you don't have a wig, there's a problem with your country that needs to be fixed. - I just feel bad that this German prince is being introduced at, he's at basically a, like, a crappy women's stuff or like, you're a prince, you're royalty. What are you doing at Nikki Hilton's book signing? And you're being, like, introduced by a psychiatrist. - Are you kidding, that fool, okay. That, first of all, Maurice's mom, okay, I'm glad that you're getting discount surgery from Paul. Calm down with it. How much you need? - Yeah, I haven't already. She didn't need it in the first place, by the way. She was beautiful. She didn't need it in the first place. And when she had it, it was like, okay, she dodged a bullet, it actually looked pretty good. But some, I agree, something happened. I was like, whoa, son of a bitch. - She's getting possum face. - She is. And then this poor guy, I mean, like, talk about an unroyal treatment. I mean, he should not have been there. He should have been off in Pasadena at some country club, like not at Kyle by Eileen off of whatever, Beverly Boulevard or Beverly Drive or wherever it's camped in or Kyle by Eileen too, or whatever. - What was I gonna tell you about that? Oh, I was reading on stupid housewives today that he's not even a real prince. That he was like an adopted son of somebody and somebody and he's been like disowned by the royals or something. And he has a website selling underwear with his logo on it or something. - Really? - I mean, I was scanning it while I pooped. Okay, I'm gonna be honest with you. It was a quick scan while I pooped. But I was like, oh, figures, he's a phony. - Yeah, and none of this is shocking. I mean, look, he's like, he's all up on Camille Grammar. I mean, if you're all up on Camille Grammar, then-- - But isn't the boning a Stella? She's bringing him everywhere. Why is everybody assuming that just because she has possum face and she's 90 years old, that she's not boning the prince? You know, she's like, look at this prince. I found, you know, look at him. Everyone's like, all right, let's hook him up with Camille. No, that's not how it works. Maybe a Stella is getting a little. - Well, I don't know what's sadder. Is it sadder that he chose Camille Grammar over Paris Hilton or is it sadder for Paris Hilton that she can't even get like a low rent German prince anymore? - Oh, Paris. - Is she more Paris? - She probably is. - Paris looks better than ever. I mean, mostly because those flash bulbs in her face are so bright, you can't even see lines on her face. - She's like a stick figure with some hair on there. - No, Paris is doing A.O.K. You know, people still get appreciated. - I'm not worried about Paris. - She's doing a great job in her post like-- - Her post comes swallowing on the internet, period. - Yeah. - Yeah, now that she's sort of seated this stage-- - Seated? (laughing) - DJ Paris Hilton. - Lord, no, she's done enough seeding. - Does she have a kid or anything? No. - No, probably. Do you know how many kids she's probably spit out? (laughing) - Whoa, wait a second, I just looked up, wait, I just did a search for Paris Hilton boyfriend. - Do you know how many kids she's probably burped. (laughing) Do you know how many kids she's probably snarfed. (laughing) - I don't know why I'm being so gross, I'm just having a weird mood today. - Paris Hilton has a boyfriend named River Vipieri, and he's pretty handsome. - Bad Omen. - What? - Bad Omen, let's stop naming our children River. - Yeah, yeah. - There was really only one river, it didn't end well. - Yes, that's right, it ended terribly. So anyway, so there was a low rent prince at Kaaba Eileen, and then I don't think anything else happened. - Well, let's see, I mean, Randy wasn't there, obviously. So things were pretty like civilized. - I'm trying to see here. We skipped the most important part of the episode. Lisa Renow wore white jeans again, that she just wore in Amsterdam, and she took a part of swing set. - I mean, come on guys, let's talk about that. - What do you have to say about that, Ben? - Wow, well that was really a momentous occasion. That is up there with some of the great demolitions of history, I mean, seeing that swing set topple over, cheer came to my eye. - And Harry's like, I mean, not Harry, what's his name? - Harry Hamlin. - Oh, Harry, it just doesn't seem like a Harry to me, Harry. What a weird name for him. Anyway, Harry Hamlin is like, look, I'm not cheating and fucking getting drunk all over the place. I'm taking care of a swing set for my kids, all right Harry? - I know, I believe. - So, I don't believe him. I don't trust him, he's done something to Lisa Renow. - I don't know. - He's screwed over Lisa Renow. - Okay, actually, while we're on this, something fun that's been posted is this blind item that's been going around that is talking about Kim Richards, they threatened to fire Kim Richards if she mentioned what Harry's secret was, and so she goes on the reunion and claims to not know, and she claims to have made everything up just to get under Lisa's skin, sort of like a fishy. - Sounds like she took a page at a gambles playlist. - A page in the face. - Give me a patty in the wall. - I heard you selling your body for Halloween. (laughing) - I heard you selling your body for Halloween and having sex with pink petals around the face. - We'll see, I would give you heroin for free. - We'll see. - Oh God, I can't wait to get to that shit. - Okay, we're making this episode sound like nothing happened, and a lot happened. Come be all wore, address with Amario Sky, and like ducks or something as a skirt. - And what else happened here, parasitals? - Well, let's get to the meat of the show, 'cause we have a lot of shows to cover. So, Adrian Maloof had a birthday party of some sort at supper club in Hollywood, and so this is like the season ending party. So, you know, everyone and their mother was invited, like, you know, everyone. So, I mean, Camille, not only did Camille show up, she brought Dee Dee and the other one. You know, this is like, these are like sidekicks from three seasons ago who were showing up. So, everyone under the sun was there. - Hagrid and Dee Dee, right in tow. And you know what, it's so mean that I call that woman Hagrid. I just say that because she's so tall, you know, but she actually looks so pretty. So, sorry if you listen to this, you're not, I don't call you Hagrid 'cause you're ugly, you're just a very tall, statuesque woman, okay? - Yeah, that's right. You could have also called her Cheryl Swoops. - There you go. - That would be weird. So, anyway, a Camille wore a very strange dress, by the way. It had like these cutouts. It was like a strange, slutty candy cane. (laughing) - Yeah, Camille, Camille is basically, there's a bus pulling out of the station. It's like youth on its way out of the country. And Camille is just like holding onto the tailpipe and helping it turn into a penis with a wallet attached to it. - And she admitted it. She, it was actually kind of amazing watching her work because she missed. Well, this is the last time I could probably go to a club. So, I might as well give it the old college try. Then she just like walks up to the prince and she starts flirting like a, like a pro. I mean, she's like, this is how, if anyone ever wants to know how you land a rich man, you follow Camille and Grandma 'cause she's been doing this for a long time. She knows exactly what to do. She sees a prince. She's like, oh, this is what I have to do. I have to hang over him and gaze into his eyes and bat my eyelashes. And like, boom, within a second, he was like kissing all up on her. - Yeah, because he's fake and he's probably like, wow, I found Fraser's ex-wife. - Rich. - Ding, ding, ding. (laughing) He's like, have you, do you have any interest in doing some undercover superhero work? (laughing) Your arms, are your arms elastic by any chance? (laughing) - Well, I love in the first season, Camille basically got herself in trouble at first because she was grinding up on everyone's husband and then she was trying to like sexy dance and it was just so awkward and painful to watch. I will never forget her flash dance sequence from the first episode when she was like, in the shadows showing how she danced. Dying, okay. - Yeah. - So they really got, Camille really quit this show at the wrong time because to not be able to see Camille dip back into the horrible, come on, I wanna see Camille be a whore, please bring her back next year and just concentrate on her trying to steal everybody's husband. - Please. - Yeah, do that, do that, do that, do that. - Well, DC follows behind her picking up, you know, like sequence that fall off her band-aid dress. - Yeah, so even though this was Adrian's party, we actually didn't see Adrian till late in the episode because she had this like ridiculous, elaborate, entrance wherein she arrived in this very like, labored magic trick where this magician's like, I'm gonna disappear now and then like, raise like a glad bag up and over around him. And then he's like, it's like, for like five minutes, you just see like a lot of shuffling and you see like hands pressing up against the fabric and everything and like, no one's paying attention and it drops and then Adrian moves and is like, Ta-da, no one even notices. And then the best is at the end of the episode when Ta-da. (laughing) She's like talking to like Kyle and Kathy and she's like, oh, I'm sorry, I missed all this. I was doing my magic act and Kathy's like, you're doing magic now? (laughing) Totally dismissive. - I love that every product Adrian comes out with, this bullshit bogus, terrible product. What was this one? It's called Never Hung Over. - Yeah, I don't know. - And at least Savannah Pompa's hilarious. She's like, well, I wonder what product they're peddling. I mean, she said it's a birthday party but you know, the only reason why she ever does a party is if she can sell something. (laughing) Right. - She's like, but I don't care what it is, darling. I'll be there to support her. - Yeah. - So she doesn't threaten to buy Villa Blanc out from under me and ruin my life. - So anyway, everyone started to convene. Although right before they convene, there was some footage of people getting ready, including Brandy and her gay, who by the way, what's his name, Mark or something like that? So it was one of these big moments where she was doing the pity party thing. She's like, I'm just not in a mood. Like, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. And then he'd be like, yeah. And then he comes up from behind and he's like, oh, I love you. And she's like, I love you. I was like, oh my God. - That was so gross. She's like, he's gonna be so high me. He's gonna be like. (laughing) It was like watching two pool toys have a love fest. I was like, ugh. - Yeah. - Taking those two floating wiener things in the pool, those foam things. Just slapping up against each other. - Yeah. - So that like, oh, Face mother fucker can barely move his face and she can barely move her face. And she's like, yeah, this is so high. And she's sitting down and he's like, lightly combing her hair. Bitch, why don't you earn your room and do her roots? How long has it been? Like, how many times are you gonna let your friend go on TV with those roots? Earn your key, bitch. - I know, I was afraid their wigs would get tangled up and fall off. (laughing) So anyway, so everyone arrives at supper club. And so the thing is that like Brandy's dad, as we spoke about last week was in the hospital because he was having heart issues and so he had to have surgery and everything. So people kept on asking Brandy, and it's perfectly normal and nice. People were like, how's your dad? And she was like, and she'd just be like, he's the same, she was sort of, you know, indicating that he wasn't well, but it also kind of seemed to, it's hard to say this, but like, it seemed like she was being dramatic about it too. Because like, if you really don't wanna talk about it, you just say, oh, you know, he's fine, thank you, he's fine, thank you. But when she would be like, the same, I don't wanna talk about it. You know, it's like, it was like this, there's something about it that was like-- - There's something so disturbing about a grown woman wearing a dress where her tits are literally only covered at the nipple, and she's uncovered all the way to her belly button, looking like a totally melted faced hooker who's been so offensive over the course of her life that her father won't even speak to her because she's such a rancid hoe, dressing up like a hoe and then trying to get pity about her dad. And you gotta love that the editors cut to her dad being like just totally disgusted with her. And then when she's like, I love you, dad. And he's like, well, that's enough of this conversation. - Yeah, I mean, look, even Brandi, I won't begrudge, feeling emotional in this situation. You know, obviously her dad's in the hospital, that's hard for anyone to go through, even a monster like Brandi. - Even a monster. - But still like, it's still to run me the wrong way. She's entitled, of course, to say, he's doing the same, whatever. But you know, there's something about Brandi, when she speaks like that, you just know that she's, even though she says, it's just like, I don't wanna talk about, I don't like talking about me, that you feel like it's the exact opposite. She actually wants that attention of them. - Oh yeah, it's every bully. They get rid of everybody. They make everybody feel like shit. They try and turn everybody's life upside down. And then when no one will talk to them anymore, they're suddenly like, oh, my toe. Or like on Real Housewives of Orange County last season, when everybody finally turned on Tamra, and she's like, you don't know what it's like going through all this with my kids? Like, I was trying to take my kids, which is, I guess, a legit concern. But, you know, it's the same thing with Brandi. It's like, he's trying to take your kids 'cause you're a dick. Do you understand, like, cause and effect? She's the kind of girl who, like, the apple would fall on her head, and she'd be like, the fucking apple. Like, we wouldn't even have gravity if Brandi was in charge. It would just be like, gravity, instead of gravity, it would be like, the earth is trying to pull me down all the fucking time. It hit me in the head with a piece of fruit. She's like, I'm trying to walk to the edge of the earth, but, like, every time I try to get closer to it, it just seems like it's getting farther and farther away. Like, what the fuck is this? - I just want to float. I just want to float. - I mean, we would never would have had that brilliant performance by Sandra Bullock in gravity, darling. - I mean, darling, it's like, I just want to, I just want to explore in space, and now we've been exploded by mirrors. Although, I would actually, I think that's actually, you do have a right to complain about that. But I think, Brandy, not only would they fall on her and she would get mad at the apple, but she'd be the one who was shaking the tree initially. Don't forget that. - Yes, she'd be like throwing shit at the apple. - Yeah. - She'd like cut the apple. She'd shoot it down with a BB gun to wait for it to fall on her head, and then start crying about it falling on her head. - Well, I just, you know, I wish that I could write a question for one of these reunions, 'cause I don't know where Andy Cohen gets these questions. He's always like, "Lorna Smithson from T-neck writes in." Hey, Brandy, blah, blah. I'm like, where do these people write these questions? Is there like a thing on bravotv.com where it's like, submit your reunion questions now? Like, I never see it. But anyway, I really want, I hope that someone asks Brandy, like, when is she gonna stop hiding behind this wall of victimization? Because what she does is she pokes in Prague, she takes it too far, she's inappropriate. You know, here and there, it's fine. - You know, that stuff, I don't even mind the yelling or the being a bitch. I don't even mind that. I don't love it. But she's worse than that. Like, you know, trying to ruin people's relationships just to get a little bit of airtime and accusing Kim, you know, even though it's probably true, but saying on national TV that Kim was in the bathroom doing crystal meth or suggesting that Kyle's husband is cheating, 'cause you know that story came from her. And then trying to blame Lisa for bringing a magazine so they could talk about it more on air. - Yeah, and then she, yeah, that's the thing. Like the slap, whatever, she took it too far, you know, whatever, but like, it's still, like you're right. It's all in the context of what came before it, which is that she tried to take down Lisa's magazine. She does the X, Y, and Z. And then she says, I'm sorry, I was wrong. I'm an asshole. Like, sorry, that's just who I am. I'm sorry, I didn't really mean to hurt you. I just wasn't thinking. And she does that. And then people get sick of it and they don't wanna hear it. And then that's when she pulls out the victim card. Like, how many times let's say I'm sorry? Like, I get it, you don't like me, but I'll always like you. But I get it, it just hurts sometimes. Like, you're not allowed to hide behind that. You're making, she's constantly making yourself the victim. - And also I'm not hearing one single thing anybody, like Lisa comes up and before Lisa puts her hand on her arm and before she even says anything, Brandy's like, - Lisa, I do not have time for this conversation right now. My name, and I can't believe you. (mumbles) (laughing) - And when you have the full season's worth, let alone two or three of Brandy acting the way she does, when you have a moment when she might actually truly be emotionally vulnerable and on a personal rollercoaster, none of us, I think a lot of viewers, except for the ones who are her fans, like probably don't wanna give her the benefit of the doubt. Like when Lisa Vanderpump walks up to her, like you said, and it's like, "Donnie, I just got your email." And she's like, "You haven't called me. "You haven't done it." And she starts freaking out on Lisa Vanderpump. You're sort of like, you know, shut the fuck up, bitch. Like, you are really out of line. And even though she shouldn't be out of line because she's the one whose dad really is in the hospital, she just doesn't, she used up all her good will, all the friendship capital and the way she treats people. - Listen, Ken could be dead any moment. The fact that Ken is even there in a tie in a wig, I mean, what's she gonna call Lisa every day? Like, did Ken get out of bed today? I mean, come on now. You gotta love Lisa Vanderpump for being the queen bitch she is and having zero fucks left to give now in season five. She doesn't care what anybody thinks of her. She knows she's the queen and she's just gonna say whatever the hell she wants. I mean, Brandy's like, "You didn't even check in on me "about my father." And Lisa goes, "I met the man for 20 seconds. "Stop." I mean, what? Oh, that's cool. I mean, I met him for 20 seconds and the only thing I really said to him is that he did a shitty job raising his daughter. So, like, which is so true. Brandy's like, "Yeah, do you not check on me?" (barking) - I mean, I mean, the truth is, I mean, Lisa's response was, like, she was right, but she was also kind of rude. Yeah, because it's like, you know, it doesn't matter how long you've met someone. Like, you may have never met someone's father if you know someone's father. - Well, I think she was saying, I'm not gonna check in with your father 'cause I barely knew him and I'm not gonna check in with you 'cause we're not friends anymore. You fucking cow. - Exactly. And how about last season, last season, Brandy Clannville, got pissed at Lisa for checking in so much, saying that you're mothering me, you're mothering me. Like, like, what do you expect? And the thing is also like, just because someone doesn't check in on you every single day doesn't mean they don't care, it just means they're not as close with you. I mean, it's just, but you know what though, I have to, I think that Lisa Vanderpump actually does deserve some credit because Brandy was being crazy at that moment. She was just going off on Lisa. And instead of Lisa Vanderpump being all Kim Richardson and going on the offense, too, and being like, "Well, you did this, "that at a Lisa Vanderpump was like, "but Brandy, all I'm saying is that I hope your father's okay. "Do you understand that? "Do you understand that?" And she kept on like, she was basically, like-- - But still got her stuff in. She's like, "Okay, listen, I'm sorry for your father, darling, "but that slap wasn't funny, and that's it. "That's the end of it." Like, "Love it, love it." I love it, she's like, "You're not gonna end "this storyline about you being a dick "by crying about your father at the end. "Sorry, I'm like 70 years old. "I've seen most of the people I grew up with are dead now." You know, back then, we didn't have polio vaccines coming out of our asses. You know, do you know how many people I've watched just lose their legs, darling? You know, you think we were-- - Darling, darling, your father's heart bypassed. Back in my day, we needed a new heart. You were just dead, you know? - Darling, if you could only imagine the amount of people I've seen dying off of Chef Penny as soon as Hartah, I mean, it would just be, it's just staggering. I've seen it all. - The expiring butter alone, darling, is killed half the West Hollywood. - You should see her deep fried mahi mahi tacos. They're just, they're slaves, all our customers. I've seen it, it's terrible, darling. - You think I've never seen death before? Darling, you don't understand that when Chef Penny puts out her death by chocolate sunday, it truly kills our customers. I've seen it. - Listen, darling, I may not be there for your father, but I'll make sure that when he passes away and Ken has one of his near-death experiences in front of 16 minutes, that Ken checks on him in heaven. All right, darling. - But you know what, though? Like, how about Brandi? Like, how about she just, if she doesn't want to hear it from Lisa, how about she just says, "Thank you very much," and moves on. Like, why is she just incapable of doing something that's like, just having this smallest ounce of common courtesy and just being polite and just moving on and getting yourself out of the situation? - I think she's just one of those people who's an asshole. - Yeah, exactly. - My first note, there's no getting past it. There's no figuring it out, there's no changing it. She's just an asshole, she doesn't belong on the show, she's never belonged on the show, and she's gonna be gone. I mean, I don't even see it. The last line of the entire night was Brandi going, I just don't understand why I always have to be the, you know, the bad guy, 'cause you're a fucking cunt. - Yeah, look at the pattern, Brandi, look at the pattern. - It's not like everyone's just coming up with it, like, oh, let's make Brandi the bad guy, you know? It's not like, it wasn't a huge plot twist to get you there, babe. - Yeah, in fact, everyone was on your side, the audience was on your side. - Oh, I said the C word. - Ah, sorry everybody, I know you're all listening to this with your children. I know I promise not to say that word anymore, but it's Brandi, all right, and get it passed. - Yeah, it's true, I mean, she really is. - She really is, it's passed, don't I, don't I give this up? - All right, well, Brandi's an asshole, so let's move on. We also have Kyle, who's an asshole as well. Kyle, you cannot just walk up to somebody, especially Kim, who doesn't even know what's going on half the time, and be like, Kim, I'm not the only one who said it, Lisa said that Brandi was, she's bringing up this news about which Brandi did suggest that Kim is a mess and is way worse off than anybody realized and probably doesn't need the intervention of blah, blah, blah. But for Kyle to take that and use it against Kim as a weapon, like, oh, Kim, somebody you love really is talking behind your back and just using you, ha, ha, ha. It's like, it's so cold and gross. You know, she's just a gross person. - I'm mixed on that one because I agree it is cold and gross and they are, they're both assholes. But at the same time, it's her way of being like, listen, this person who you think has your back doesn't have your back because this is what she's saying. So I don't think that's necessarily the coldest thing to do. I mean, she's trying to like, she's trying to clear the-- - No, she's trying to make herself look better by making somebody else look bad. Instead of just saying, Kim, I've never done anything but help you in my whole life. If you feel the need to be angry with me, go ahead. But when you need me, I'll be here 'cause I'm your sister and I love you. So go on and do whatever you need to do and I'll be here to try and pick up the fucking pieces. Or even if she's gonna stand up for herself. Like, a lot of this stuff with Kim isn't Kyle standing up for herself. It's Kim acting like an asshole and then Kyle trying to make it all about her. You know, we've talked about addiction so much and I promise you I'm not about to go on a rant about it again. But somewhere I've just kind of had to get with it is like, you do you, you act crazy fine. I'm still gonna love, I'm gonna love you the same when you're drunk as I do when you're sober. If you annoy me, I'm just gonna ask you to get out of my house and I'll call you for a week, okay? See you next time. I mean, what the hell are you gonna do? But to like antagonize somebody who's already obviously nuts. I mean, Kim is beyond just drunk. She's much to that brain. Her brain is like wakamole. It's like a blonde dish of wakamole. There's nothing, that sauce is not even connecting with the avocado. There's nothing going on in there that's making any kind of sense. - Well, I think that's like a very, I agree. I think so. And I also agree that like Kyle should get to the place where she says, okay, you do you, whatever, let Kim make her own mistakes. But I can't totally fault Kyle for having that instinct to say, like, don't trust this woman, like stop it. Like she just wants to shake Kim and I get that. I mean, yeah, she should act. - But you know what, Brandi, what Brandi did do to do. I'm the worst interrupting, I know and I'm sorry. But I just want to get this in. What Brandi did with Lisa Rinna, she didn't throw Kim under the bus. I mean, we know Kim's reactions to things and that Kim would take it as being thrown under the bus because God forbid someone ever suggests that you need help with anything ever. But Brandi wasn't being a bitch. She was saying, obviously you're right. You guys are seeing what's happening with Kim. I talk to her every day and trust me, it's worse when there aren't even cameras around and I can't help her because I'm drunk all the time. So if you want to help her, I'll help you help her. That wasn't something mean. But Kyle takes it and she uses it against Kim in a mean way to hurt her on purpose and that's not cool. - Yeah, because you know what, I don't even think that Lisa Rinna was throwing Kim under the bus at any moment. I don't, when Lisa Rinna was talking about Kim, like does she need treatment, does she need help, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't think any of that was throwing Kim under the bus. Kim, if anyone do Kim under the bus, it was herself. But you know what, you make a good point because when Kyle got that gossip, she did make it seem much more of a pointed conversation. It did seem like very accusatory, like Brandy's being like, Kim should have an intervention with Kim, blah, blah, blah. It was just a discussion. And so when they confronted Lisa Rinna, in a wake, Lisa Rinna was right. When she said, well, it was like a larger discussion. It's like not as easy as that. At the same time, I also kind of like, oh, I felt the frustration that Kyle and Eileen felt, which was like, what, Lisa, you've been saying this all along and now it's like finally your moment to clarify it and you don't say it? - But you can't clarify it when you've got a drunk sitting across from you, pointing her bent finger in your face, you know, screaming, "Well, you've won't do that, do that, do that, do that." - That's not how to solve it. And Lisa knew it. 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Come on, come back, Ben. - Something else? - No, I was gonna say it. At least sort of probably, you know what, her, the reason why she probably said wishy washy is because Kyle was basically like, what did you say, what did you say? And so she didn't know, Lisa really probably didn't know what the right thing was to say. You know, she was probably afraid that, you know, if she said that Brandi said that you need an intervention, that that might either, that might go against what someone else said or might support it. So she probably just wasn't accurate. Like to go on, to go on national TV and say, oh, your best friend's telling everyone you need an intervention. That's not kind and it's not accurate. And one thing about Lisa Rinna, I think she's gonna be a bitch from hell at one point on the show, because we've seen her throw a glass already, like I cannot wait to see her get pushed over the edge. But I will say in this situation, I think she handled it absolutely beautifully. And I think I lean, first of all, I lean shut up. Okay, I like I lean, we all know I like I lean, but just shut up. You don't have a storyline and this is certainly not your storyline. And keep telling Lisa Rinna that she's not having anybody's back. You know, yelling at somebody that you're mad at doesn't mean they have your back. Okay, it means they're just as much of an asshole as you are. She's, what she did was perfect. She waited until Kim was talking to Brandy alone and she went up and she said, it was a kind conversation. It was not a mean conversation. That was a really nice thing she did. Cause she could have used that to make a big finale fight like Kyle was trying to do. And Eileen was trying to do and make it this huge deal. And then Kyle and Eileen even walk up and they're watching it from far away. - They shouldn't have walked up. - Yeah, that was bad. But that being said, that being said. - I mean, in certain ways you're right. Cause you know, and Brandy wasn't, we both agree that Brandy wasn't like stirring shit up or throwing Kim under the bus when they were just talking about in a way they both were acknowledging that maybe Kim has some issues, et cetera. But at the same time, given that anyone who seems to like even talk about Kim's sobriety seems to get her wrath, she gets mad at anyone and she seems to think that Brandy is the only one who believes that she's sober. You know, you can't discount the fact that Brandy, even if she wasn't throwing Kim under the bus, she was acknowledging that Kim may still have issues. And that's the thing. I think that that's sort of perhaps what is driving these women to say all this stuff because Kim is acting as if Brandy says nothing. And in fact, when Kim finally did speak to Brandy about it, Brandy sort of copped up to saying it, but sort of didn't, and actually to be fair, I thought Brandy's response to Kim was appropriate. I think Brandy was basically like, look, yeah, I was worried about you, but the way I'd be worried about anyone and you know, you and your situation. And like, am I capable of like helping Kim 'cause I'm drunk half the time? It was actually like a moment where Brandy I thought was like, she was sort of on the money there with her response. But Kim, since Kim is like loves Brandy, she just is like, she totally accepts that. You know, she goes in and it gets her to benefit of the doubt where she doesn't give it to the others. Well, she's also saying like, I'm worried about you too, 'cause I mean, look at you. I'm worried about you and you're worried about me. I mean, well, that's because Brandy, here's the thing that Brandy's good at. She's good at spinning her shit. So that it sounds fine. So 'cause Brandy is like, well, I worry about it, but she's like, but you know, that's what friends do. You know, we worry about each other. That's what friends do. And Kim's like, yeah, yeah, that's what we do. So we, friends worry about each other. And it's like, well, then if friends worry about each other, why are you so mad at Lisa Rinna? When she said, well, I was concerned about you. You know what I'm saying? It's like, but when she hears it from Brandy, it all sounds like tulips and-- - Well, because she's got the evil side of Brandy too, on her other shoulder saying, well, Lisa Rinna's just trying to use her alcoholism as a storyline. So is Alina, so is Kyle. These people just want to see you fail and Kyle wants to see you fail. And everything she's done since season one is to betray you and to make you look bad in everybody's eyes. So she's finally the famous sister and you're just a piece of trash. - Exactly. - And then on and on and on. And Kim is an idiot and believes whatever she sees. I mean, Jesus Christ, I'm surprised she doesn't think she's on fucking the Big Bang Theory or something. - Yeah, because if Lisa Rinna goes up to Kim and says, well, I was worried for you and you know, that's what friends do, they worry. Kim would say like, well, don't worry about me. It's none of your business. Where Brandy says, well, I was worried about you because that's what friends do. 'Cause I was worried about you too. - Well, that conversation was amazing because Kim, I think actually sat down thinking she was gonna have to tell off Brandy in this finale because she was telling her makeup person who was like doing walking dead zombie makeup on her for some reason. She's like, yeah, I mean, what am I supposed to do? I got these girls long saying all this stuff. And I don't know what to believe. - And then when she sat down with Brandy, she's like, first of all, your nipples hanging out. Okay, second of all, how's your dad? Okay, sorry, I'm all, I was like, okay, Kim. Like whenever Kim starts listing things, she's like, look at me, I can remember this. You better watch out, bitch. - Yeah, we're all terrified, Kim. - And then Brandy, well, I don't remember what point Brandy did this, but I wrote it down as a note 'cause it was so ridiculous. When Brandy is like, she's talking about Kim and she's like, I love her. I love her. I'm like, shut the fuck up, Brandy. No, Kim is really nasty. Kim is when, at one point when they're talking, and remember that at one point where Kim is like, no, I'm not going to you. If you want to talk to me, come over here. She's so nasty. - Yeah, she really is a nasty woman, for sure. And she gets back into a corner. And I'm, you know, all this stuff going against Kyle, I don't want you to get the impression that I'm sticking up for Kim 'cause I'm going against Kyle. They're really both gross fucking people. Like, I don't see, you know, the way they treat everybody. Like, Kyle just basically throwing Lisa Rinna under the bus like that was not cool. Kim throwing everybody under the bus is not cool. - But she warned Lisa Rinna that she was going to do it though. - Well, if she had gone up, but she didn't do what she said she was going to do. If she'd gone up to Kim and said, you know, Brandy even might think that you need help. And if she does, we should all talk about something like that. She's like, well, Brandy's singing in the end. Lisa told me, so go head Lisa, tell her. And Lisa's like, whoa, okay, a little bigger than that. She's like, oh, thanks a lot. Thanks a lot, Lisa. Thanks for making me look stupid in front of my sister. It's like, who cares? You always look stupid in front of your sister. Your sister hates your gut. She stole her house, okay? - Well, Kyle is sort of like a professional rumor botcher. Like she just, she's like, she just always messes up, which doesn't make it any better. But yeah, if there's anyone who's going to like over dramatize a rumor, it's going to be fine. I mean, going back to season one. Although, and I don't remember if we talked about this during the Amsterdam episode or not, when Kim yelled at Kyle and was like, "Well, you don't stand up for me." Like, you're not our sister. Like, wait, Kathy is whatever, dah, dah, dah, dah. I don't remember if I made this point, but one of, it's not even really my point, but someone on our Facebook page, I'm sorry, whoever you are, someone on our Facebook page said, like, Kim has no place to talk about that because if you go back to season one, Kyle and Camille had a huge fight. Obviously, that's shaped the whole season. And Kyle was mad at Kim 'cause Kim knew about this thing that was said, this about, remember Camille accused Kyle of saying like, "Well, who would work?" - She was insecure or whatever without Frazier. - Yeah, something like that. And Kim knew what had been said, and Kyle at that first party in New York or that dinner was like, "Back me up, Kim." And Kim was like, "Ahh," and Kim did nothing. - Well, to be fair, how much could Kim also remember? I mean, she was sitting on pillows in that airport. - True, but what I'm just saying is that Kim is not like, miss back or upper. - No, they're both horrible. They're fighting with each other is horrible. They're both fighting over stupid things. Kyle's mad because Kim's drunk. I think that that's a legit thing to be mad about. When you have to deal with that in your family, it sucks. And Kim has put that whole family through a bunch of shit with her stuff. On the other hand, Kim's had a really miserable adulthood. And frankly, if she wants to get fucked up, I don't necessarily blame her. And all she wants is a little support. But instead of these two bitches coming together and being like, "Here's our issues, but let's love each other anyway." You know, they're just trying to make each other the villains of each other's story the whole time. All Kyle talks about is how mean Kim is. And all Kim talks about is how mean Kyle is. And frankly, you're both painful to watch. Okay. - I mean, even Kyle, I'm sorry, even Kyle, yeah. I mean, Kyle is so overbearing. Remember in the opening scene at the Nikki Hilton thing, Kim walks in wearing some furry vest. And Kyle's like, "Why didn't you get to that my store? You knew I had this line. You knew I had this line." And Kim's like, "Ah, wow, ah." Like, I was like, "Give her a break." So she didn't get to your store. - I didn't buy it. I just took it to the dressing room, and had off the doll attack, bitch. - I just had, I just had Kingsley kill an animal. And I guess, and by the way, very interesting, I thought that when it came to the end of the episode and they showed like what everyone's been up to, that the tidbit I think that they had about Kyle or about Kim was about how Kingsley bit Alexa, Alexa, whatever, Kyle's daughter, and she needed surgery. I was like, "What a strange thing for them to put in there. So clearly that's gonna come up in the reunion. They have to be setting the stage for that." - Yeah, yeah. Well, they're gonna set the stage for it 'cause they haven't spoken since then. And that happened way before the reunion. That happened in October, I think. - Yeah. - So yeah, they'll be talking about that. - 'Cause Kingsley probably like, "You're responsible. You adopted this dog you can't take care of. You didn't blah, blah, blah." - Train it. - I read in the-- - And Kingsley's bit a few people now, I feel like. - Yeah, oh my God, remember when they tried to train him and he bit that dog queen, that dog whispering queen? Oh my God, he was like, (screaming) and like started kicking him. I was like, "Wow, great training." Bravo, sure knows how to pay for the most! Okay, so now for the past five hours that we've been talking about this. - Yes. - Fucking Kim and Kyle, who are already exhausting me. Okay. - Yeah. - And I've been kind of sticking out for Lisa Rina. I don't know what happened with Lisa Rina and Kim. It must be something at the reunion because Lisa Rina out of fucks. She's gone, there's no fucks left in her purse. And she is a full court press going after Kim Richards now, majorly. - The fucks were on the swing set. - Yeah. - And the swing set is gone. - Yeah, she's like, "These fucks are gone with my childhoods with my children's childhoods." (laughing) - She knocked him over like she knocked over that swing set. (laughing) - She has been going after Kim like crazy and not only going after her, but basically calling her a drunk. She went on Twitter, what was this, last week, I guess, and wrote, "Why doesn't Bravo ever address missing blog issue? Isn't it part of the housewives contract?" That's a quote that somebody was writing her. They have a question that somebody wrote her. And she answered #exactly. And then she replied, "My guess is people who don't write blogs have something to hide. This excludes Yolanda Foster, who's battling lime, a thought." And then she wrote, and then she deleted this, but she wrote this right after. Or, "Are they too inebriated to write a blog? You tell me." Then someone-- - That's exactly when you write a blog. - Yeah. (laughing) - It'll make about as much sense as Brandi's, that's for sure. - It's like, "Let me tell you something President Lincoln." - And then someone said, "Hey, why don't you woman up?" Oh, if you're so angered by this, why don't you woman up and name names? We can't guess. First of all, stupid people, don't go on Twitter. You're just confusing the conversation, okay? Stupid people, stop writing things on Twitter. I mean, what a stupid question. If you're so angered by this woman up and name names, go see who hasn't written a fucking Bravo blog, Ovelite, Gamoron. Anyway, and then she just answered plainly, Kim Richards doesn't write her blogs. But, you know, to be, I'm saying that she's going full court press because to say you're too inebriated to do something, when Kim is basically saying that, saying that's ruining her life, and ruining her reputation, it's like, you know you're the same woman who was crawling around two seasons ago looking for your dime bag on the floor of the bathroom in Hawaii, right? (laughing) - Can we stop worrying about your reputation? It's dead. - Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. - Mm-hmm. - Well, I think we should probably move on to another show. - Yeah, currently in the meantime. - And thanks a lot for zapping another hour out of my life. - I know, by the way, let's give a shout out to Nick Marshall, who sent us a message about something, and we use like, can you give us a shout out? - Nick and Des. - Nick and Des. - Nick and Des. - Also, it's Adrian, a great talks birthday. You know, we love you, girl. - Oh, yeah. - We love you in English, Russian, whatever language you need us to love you in, Donkerson. - Yes, no, oh, and Nick Marshall was, he's in the UK and he says that he's obsessed with us. He says, "Shine, shine, shine, shine, shine, shine, shine." No, we're obsessed with you, Nick Marshall. We're obsessed with you and your countrymen. - There, so there, Nick Marshall, take that. - And also, I would like to thank, hold on, let me get to her name. You see how we do this because you guys can't fast-forward through this 'cause it's not the length of commercial suckers. I would like to thank my little friend, Hannah, who's a friend of the show, who actually gave me some Adderall. I mean, I couldn't believe it, you know, when I joked around on this show about giving me some Adderall, and you guys, thank you, Hannah. You came through. I'm gonna have an amazing weekend of concentration. Thank you. Those are gonna see me posting all kinds of songs and shit on the internet. I'm gonna be so concentrated, so thank you. - It's almost gonna be like a classic concentration for you. - All right, then, Ben, what show would you like to talk about next? We've only got 19 more shows to talk about. - Well, why don't we go to, I mean, Atlanta was good, but let's go to Melbourne. Atlanta was quite good. All right, let's go to Melbourne, Ben. Taking some notes here. - I'm taking some notes here. - Let's read my own writing, man. ♪ Everybody in Melbourne ♪ ♪ Everybody in Melbourne ♪ ♪ Talking about got more ♪ - Show us a little stuff at the end. I noticed, show is like, she talks like this, and then she goes up, like that. - I'm not sure if I love her saying that and waving her arm around like that, literally waving her arm around like that, or if I love Janet imitating it. I can't tell which I love better, 'cause they're both hilarious. - Well, the best part for people who weren't there, which means everyone, when Ronnie and I were playing Settlers of Catan last week, I don't know if you realize we were doing this, Ronnie, but like, at various intervals during the game, you just were going, "Ah, everybody in Melbourne!" (both laughing) - Well, I told them, okay, I told them, "Everybody wants weed!" - But I told them at the beginning, I said, "Okay, we do this thing, we make fun of Melbourne, "and there's this lady, and she's, "it's been on the preview for months, I showed 'em, "and they kind of gave me a weird look, "but at least I set it up." I didn't just randomly do it, and then I kept doing it throughout the game, but I'm sorry, you know, y'all can't take it, if you can't take the wheat, get out of the cotension. - Yeah, that's right, I said it. - Yeah, girl, I think I was the only one who actually noticed it, 'cause I think everyone was like, keeping an eye on, like, rocks and-- - They're trying to, they're just like, don't listen, just try not to listen to him, turning the volume down on me. - Oh, God. - Which is only gonna make me louder. By the way, that's also what you get when I start playing things sober. Sometimes people think that I'm drinking to make life more fun. I'm drinking to calm myself down for your sake, basically. - Yeah. - It's not for me, that's for the rest of you all, okay? - I'm trying to remember, how did you fare in that? I think you did pretty well in that cotension. - And so, that was of Catam, I did not do well, because I bought property on, like, a desert and a fucking bridge or something, like the edge of town or something. I never got crap. Oh, and I bought it on, like, 10, which is like one of the lowest rolled numbers. - And 11, which is like the second. - Well, 'cause there was that one time we played and your 11s kept coming up like crazy, and you built cities like around the eight, well, you just still did better than Brendan, who I think only had three points. I had some crazy situation where I was getting just like bricks, like tons of bricks, and I mean, I had like a runaway game, 'cause I remember, I think I actually won that one, but like, I won, and Brendan still only had three points, and that's not usually the way the game goes. - Yeah, I think I had five, I think I had five, and I was about to get seven, but someone stole the longest route. Okay, none of you played this game or I played this game, because once you learn it, it may seem like a stupid game, 'cause you're just like buying stuff in town, but once you know and you have a bunch of people who know how to play it, you could just make it a housewives thing, you know? - Yeah, I would love that game to be reskinned as with housewives. - Yes. - Like there's a Lisa Vanderpump Hacks, and there's like a Ramona Singer Hacks, like I get like, you know, it's like, I get three skinny girl margaritas that go into making like a pump restaurant. (laughs) - Yeah, save enough hate twigs and glue guns up, and you can win a Bethany/Frankle block. - Yeah, it's like you start with like a sir, and then you upgrade to a pump. (laughs) The insert is like a settlement, and they're just like, I don't know, saucy, I don't know. - So for those of you who don't watch Real Housewives of Mailman, because I know some of you, it's a little hard to catch on to the accent and all that stuff. There's this new girl named Gamble, none of her face moves, she's married to some old guy in the room, or is that she's a prostitute in a cauldron, has all these sex parties. - The room are according to Janet. - According to Janet, yes, and Cheeker. - Cheeker a little bit. Cheeker has been spreading this gossip. Cheeker is the good one. Cheeker's like the nice one. I think we did a thing a few weeks ago where we imagined her taglines, and they're all like very, very nice taglines. (laughs) (laughs) - Throw me to the wolves and I'll come back with a bunch of wolf friends, 'cause they're all just lovely animals. (laughs) - What was I gonna say? - Oh yeah, so Cheeker's like gossiping and stuff, and Janet is now trying to get forgiven for this, and Gamble will not forgive Janet for saying this, because like Kim Richards, it's not the fact that everyone's talking about you being a drunk. It's, you shouldn't be mad that people are talking about you being a drunk. You should just not be a drunk, you know, that kind of thing. - Yeah, exactly. - I don't think if you weren't a hooker, it would be that serious to you. I think you would probably calm down. I don't think it would be a shock that some hot blonde woman whose face doesn't move, any who has big ol' fake titties, who's marrying some 90 year old man, would be considered a whore by anybody in town, okay? It's not really a shocker, Gamble, let's just calm down. - Yeah, exactly. But so the, in the beginning of the episode, what was funny to me is that Cheeker, Cheeker's sad with Lydia, and-- - Who's just dumb as a fucking box of hair, that girl. - And so Cheeker starts like talking about the whole Gamble situation. She's like, "Well, I have a bit of gossip. "I have a bit of gossip that I have to tell you a bit. "I don't know if you heard about it." But we had a bit of a notch with Gamble, and she went crazy, and she goes and starts to tell this gossip to Lydia, and Lydia's like, "Well, I haven't heard this gossip yet." And then she goes like, "Oh, that's good." That means that the gossip has died, and now it's died, and the fact that you haven't heard it means that it's died, which is good. And now we don't have to ever talk about it again. I'm like, "Bitch, you just spread the gossip, "you actually gave it life, and yeah, "you're gonna hear about it again, "because you just talked about it on national TV." - On international TV. - Yeah, she does learn. She's kind of a little bit sincere, I love it. - She sort of is like, "Well, you know, "I helped to bring it up at lunch, but to be fair, "I didn't know what Janet was gonna say. "I thought the rumor was that she was a pretty girl "whose face didn't move that much, you know? "I thought the rumor was that she was "the most popular girl in high school. "I didn't know it was gonna be something about "being a pole stripper." - Yeah, I thought that when they said pole dancer, I thought that meant that she likes to put on dances at the North Pole for sounds as a workshop. - I thought she was a Polish dancer, darling. I mean, I didn't know she was gonna be doing all this hoochie-coochie mama stuff. - Yeah, I thought it was hoo-leaners, and you know what, I think it's great. I think it's great if she's a pole dancer, because you know what, I love poles, and I think they're a wonderful sort of architectural feature, and I think that if she's gonna be dancing on anything, she might as well dance in a pole. - That's right, I mean, if they weren't poles, who would know where the barbershop was? Nobody. Poles were important. How would you stand up on the trolley? You would be able to, 'cause there's no poles to hang on to. - How are the five men supposed to get down to their trucks, by their case? - No, no. - Oh, well, you're supposed to just jump through a hole. We'd have piles of dead firemen with broken necks. You've gotta have poles, you know, I mean. - It's a very, very honorable thing for Gamble to be doing that, so I don't see what the problem is. I'm very proud of Gamble. I don't think there's a problem at all. Right, Lydia? - Sexual parties, what party's not sexual? I met my gay husband at a sexual party. - Yeah. - It was in the air that night. It was summer, it was hard as heck. I mean, what sort of magnet would we have if we didn't have poles? - If there were no opposite, everyone would be the same, and we'd all be hoarse. (both laugh) - Listen, all I meant is that she likes to get on a magnet and dance. (both laugh) - It's a pole dancer. She likes to show magnetism. - I love Lydia just being like, "Oh, what? "Tell me everything." She's so stupid. - It's like, my son's getting married. I can't believe I have a son that's getting married because he's 24. - Like, it's 'cause you're married to a fucking old person. What are you so surprised about? - Yeah, she's like, "You know what's crazy? "Is that I have a 24-year-old son, "but I have no recollection of giving birth to him, "or even of his childhood." Isn't that strange? - They call them a stepson, but the strange thing is that we don't have any steps in our house. - It's all one story. - It's all one story, so why they call them a stepson? - I love that Lydia's always so in awe, and everything ends as a question, and she's always so surprised by everything. - Oh, shut up, Lydia. - She's like, "I'm really excited about this wedding. "Ever since I saw that opera, the marriage of Figaro, "I've been waiting for this moment for my dog. "What if my son is getting married? "Oh, no, I'm very confused." - The marriage of Figaro, how are they gonna do that if no one in it can sing? Can you make an original cast album with just a dog sitting there in a sweater? - I do have some concerns, 'cause I'm not sure if I approve of my son marrying my dog, but I suppose, since everyone's does they like the marriage of Figaro, then I guess it'll happen. - Oh, all right, so that's just the first scene, and then we get Sean Chon Chawing doing her-- - Yeah, we had like a-- - Not being able to pronounce her product. That's just sad. - We had like a 15-minute interlude of her book going la mascara, and then Ben going la mascara, and she's like, "Mascara, mascara, mascara, mascara." 15 minutes, I was like, "Oh my God, "am I watching this right now?" - Yeah, she's like, "Yeah, you know, I can take direct, "I don't mind taking a little direction, "but I don't like being told what to do." It's like you're kind of too stupid to focus on right now, although I will say that she's probably the most improved as far as surgery. Like, I like her surgery, very well done. - Yeah, good job. - That's all I have to say about her, but la mascara, sounds great. - And then speaking of entrepreneurial endeavors, then we had Patty Fleur, who is still working on her book, "Switched the Bitch" with her eyebrow threader. - Her eyebrow specialist. This woman, I forget what her name was, like Chantal or something, just staring at her blankly, like, "Uh-huh, uh-huh." And then it comes out that they are writing their chapters independently. - I don't have no outline or anything. - No outline, so I can even understand alternating chapters if it's like, "Okay, now this is Patty Fleur's take, "and this is Chantal's take." But it's like they just started to start writing without any sort of meetings. And this woman's talking about romance and reigniting the fire, and Patty Fleur's like, "But I'm talking about switching the bitch." And so she's like, "So I think it'd be better "if we have two separate books." It's like, "Do you think?" - So like, "How many chapters do you have?" She's like, "Um, probably 10, 10 chapters?" - Yeah, like, "That's not a lot of chapters." That's our half, 20 chapters. - I have like 20 chapters. - You do not have 20 chapters, girl, please. - Totally. - There aren't those lines on your neck. They're not neck rolls. They're things that are written down. - Darling, I tend to be-- - It's a darling. There's a difference between a chapter and a paragraph. (laughing) 'Cause I got 20 times, that's like 20 chapters. - I love when she's like, "How many wids do you have?" She's like, "I don't know, I'd have to count them." Did you ever watch absolutely fabulous? You're not that kind of faggot, are you? - Uh, no. - I am. And two of the characters on it, like two of the smaller characters, Patsy, who's one of the main characters, works at like Vogue or something, like a fashion magazine. And there are these two idiot women, and all they do is go, "Ooh, really? Ooh." With these fake French accents. And that's totally this woman, this eyebrow threader. She just looks totally confused the whole time. And she doesn't even realize that she's being fired from this book. And, uh, switch to bitch, it's just like, "I say switch to bitch, you know?" So I say, "For 20 chapters to switch to bitch." And she's like, "All right, Ben." She says, "How's the eyebrows looking?" "Well, they look lovely." "Thank you, goodbye, get out." She's like, "I think I'm gonna go now." (laughing) "Have a switch to bitch." "I'm switching to bitch." Okay, and then we start getting into the good stuff. - Gamble! - Yeah. - They all go to the fashion parade in Melbourne. - Gamble. - "By the way, Paula Jones wrote last week "that my gamble imitation has shades of Toya." - It does, I love it. - See, what I should have did was not have a sex party. Your gene, our gene. Don't have a sex party in Melbourne. - By houses in America, it's a lease. That's different because of rental, you pay a buddy every month, at least. You pay the buddy every, well. - So in my mind, this is Toya, 'cause Toya's why I say what I should have did was tell a little gene. But then this, to me, Gamble's like, "Oh, Wolfie, Wolfie darling." - She's kind of like Jean-Jacques Boor. - Yeah, she's kind of like a Jean-Jacques Boor type without a moving face. Although Jean-Jacques faced us move for years, but. - Yeah, is Jean-Jacques still alive? Didn't you have that crazy-- - I don't think she's still with us. I think she had like a stroke. - Wasn't she, she was like holding on there and they like cut off her legs and all this stuff? - Yeah, she's like ahead. She's like boxing Helena. But, Jacques, boxing Jacques. You just open the box and she's like, "Darling, "I can't believe we live in the country." - Even though that was her sister. She's just taking her sister's life. - She is still alive. - Jacques, she's 98, she's 98, how much is that, 98 degrees? She's in 98 degrees, by the way. - So you know her maid has her in like a payless shoebox? - She's got that crazy husband, the prince, what's his face? - Yeah, prince of Zonico. - Marginally, marginally less impressive than the other prince. Camille's prince. Fish going to double date. Jacques in a wheelchair with her prince. Camille with her, Mr. Incredible. - Jacques in a box. That's really cold. Sorry, Jacques, if you're listening to this at home, wrapped in your boa, and your baw in your payless box. - By the way, it all comes together because Jacques used to be married to Conrad Hilton. - No, she did not. - She did. From 1942 to 1947, I mean, this woman's been around. - We've come full circle all around the mail. - So this is where this-- - Every one in the rich is proudly the date of the prince. - So this is where we come to this scene. They all go to this fashion event and get-- - Excuse me, excuse me, it's not a fashion event, it's a fashion parade. - It's a fashion parade, is it a fashion parade in Melbourne? - It goes to a fashion parade. - Where's Al Roca? It's a fashion parade. - Gamble walks straight up to Janet. She's like, listen, I don't know how you talk about my family, you're trying to ruin my family, I don't like it. - Janet's like, now listen darling, I was just trying to help you because I heard all this stuff about you and wanted to make sure you were okay. If you were a pulled answer, I wanted to give you some hand sanitizer darling. - Wait, hold me a pole dancer, oofy, oofy, oofy. - And Janet, in her defense, was just like, darling, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to call you, whatever, sorry, sorry, sorry, she's like, - Yes, sorry to me, that I am in my family, darling. - Yeah, and Janet's just like, don't shoot the messenger, don't shoot the messenger. Gemma's like, oh, there you go again, starting a rumor that I'm shooting people now. Now you're making it sound like I went and shot AOL instant messenger, well I can't do that, can I? Because it's software. - If anyone's gonna be shot on their face, it's me, you're telling all of me, all of me, all of me, all of me is saying that Gemma's a dancer on a pole ballet. - That I had a sex party, it wasn't a sex party, I just had some girlfriends, they came over and they just were like, in the pool, it was not a sex party. - First of all, that is a very fishy sex. - All around, the swimming pool. - But I think that's a fishy defense, because if someone says, I heard you had sex parties, why is she suddenly able to like, why is this this random party where her girlfriends came over, and that is like, oh, no that, I didn't have a sex party, I just had some friends over. I feel like for me, if someone accused me of having sex parties, which I do, but if someone accused me of having that, and I didn't have one, I'd be like, no, that's like hilarious, and like, no, like there'd be nothing even to point you to be like, oh no, what happened was I had some friends over and we're playing solo as a cotan, like there wouldn't even be like a reference to-- - And Ronnie started like sucking on the wood pieces. - It's sort of like, the fact that she can like, that she quickly references some random party from the past seven years of her life, sort of indicates that she's had to defend this party before in the past, if that makes sense, like-- - Well, Chica had kind of explained it, and she said, you know, in the print, all this stuff and her divorce came out in the press, and that's what she's having to deal with now, because all the press has talked about all this stuff, and that's all we were asking. So I think that they're mentioning stuff that's already been in the gossip pages and stuff like that, and Gamble's acting like, oh no one's ever called her a whore, or suggested she had sex parties, even when she's probably got like 500 comments on those Facebook posts calling her an old whore. - Yeah, exactly, listen, don't go on a reality show and don't expect these things to come out. Even if it's not even true, I'm not even sure I believe it, but the fact that she has some random specific event, that she's like, you know, it's like when some, like she has too easy an alibi for this. If she just said like, no, that's, I haven't had that, you know, when they first said that, when Janet first said there was a rumor that she was a pole dancer, then you know, Gamble laughed it off like that was hilarious. And then when she said, well I've heard, you've also had sex parties, then she was like, what, Janet, that's awful. - Yeah, when it turned into, when it turned into her being a whore, it was different. - Yeah, it's just like, the fact that she had an alibi ready to go almost seemed too convenient. - Yeah, I can't really tell because these new ladies have obviously seen the show and seen all the housewives shows and know how they're supposed to act, and I get that they're being bitches to get on screen more 'cause they're both too ridiculous to be serious. Like neither one of them could possibly be serious. But part of, you know, I'm wondering if she's just making a big deal out of it to be on TV more, or if she's making a big deal out of it because it's really true and she's trying to hide it. And honestly, thinking about this show that much kinda makes my head hurt because it's so fucking stupid. But God, I love it. It is so hilarious. Every scene in this show makes me laugh so hard. - Yeah, and Gamble is trying to learn how to play poker. I mean, come on. - Oh yeah. Oh my God, don't like-- - What? - And she's like, no, normally I like to play Uno. I like to play Uno, but Mr. Figaro. - It's like, I play poker with the kids sometimes, but she obviously does not know how to play poker. - Yeah, she probably thinks, you know, as a game where you just play one card. She's like, okay, let's get the deck ready for Uno, and she pulls out one card. She's like, okay, I'm gonna give you the card, then you give it back to me, and that's Uno. She's back, she's back. - She's back, go fish. Uno times, that means twice. - She's like, I'm gonna go play, go fish. Seems like, okay, go fish. She's like, all right, I'll be right back. She goes out to the ocean with the fishing pole. - My favorite part I wrote is-- - Wolfie. These women are so mean to me. Wolfie, they're going to go. I'm a polar dangle, Wolfie. I want to kill them. - He's like, filling. - Oh, they need to kill these women. They don't know. They forgive them for they not know what they do, darling. - He's very Jim Broadbenty to me, right? He's like a silver-haired Jim Broadbent. - Yes, yeah, that's a good call. - Darling, he's like, darling, no, I love you, just the way you are, and you don't have to worry about this, and you might be giving them a little more credibility to their rooms, but I like to make that. She's like, oh, Wolfie. - Oh, Wolfie, when did you get this and a nando? Wolfie, yes! - Oh, but we didn't even talk about Gino walking in there and being like, Ultimate Schuster walking in and saying to Gamble, like, oh, I thought the reason why you were mad at Janet was because she's floating with Wolfie. - She's like, what? - I don't even mind about that. Of course, I wouldn't survive. He's sitting on me a hole. - And Janet's like, Wolfie, no. - You gotta love Gino. You know, people could get sued for that. - Yeah. - You know, when you slam that, it's called Slander. I'm a barrister, you know, you could sue people. - I do. - That's not friction. And then I love how Gamble's like, I think I might need to have a solicitor, you know, I have to deal with all these rumors. - She's gonna sue Janet, and I fucking love it. - I mean, Janet, here's the thing. Janet wasn't even saying you were a pole dancer. I mean, Janet was being sneaky, and she was gonna, well, I heard this about you, you know, but it wasn't the same as her being like, you were a pole dancer, at least it was better than freaking Gamble being like, well, guess what? I was talking to your old heroin dealer, and he said that he used to sell money for heroin. Like, what, it's sort of the fact that it's fake, and you even admitted that it was fake. Why would you be talking to a heroin dealer? - Like, she just ran into him at that opening of that store. What was it, 10th and 12th? What's that store? Elms. What was that store that they went to last year, and they're like, this American store opened. It was like the container store. Oh yeah, west down. Wow, look at this. You can get a box to put your socks in. Oh, America. Look at this raw stress for less. Don't talk to the inner, she's over in the house with us. Do you know how much copper crucifix is going to phone Melbourne? Oh, God bless America. Look at this rooster ad. I guess this is all the rage in America. A chef holding cookies in this jar. God bless you, America. Look at this, all I full tell, I post this. Someone should give this to Bruce. Give it to Brucey. Look, it's Marilyn Monroe's face and a cloak. Hey, look at this martini glass. It says funky diva on it. I think we should get this first last three. Hey, look, it's a glass that has a little pink feather attached to it. Very American. So, Gina, everybody, is a badass. I love that Gina is just like-- All right, let me ask you some questions, because I like to deal, in fact. Were you, in fact, a whore? No! No, I asked you. What? Have you ever sucked penises for dollars? No, I don't even like penises. I don't like any of this. Have you ever wrapped your vagina around a pole and slid it down for money? I don't even know what a vagina is. Do I have one? Do you have one? I don't know. I've never heard of such a thing as ridiculous. How many loads have you swallowed today? Oh, that's like a dump truck. I don't understand. How could you drink a dump truck food? How many women did you eat out at your last party, darling? Well, I mean, eat out like there'd be men go to the salad, but I don't know. I've got all the time in ladies, I don't know. I love how she doesn't get offended at all. And Gina's like, all right, then, have you? Are you a whore? Are you two? Do you have sex parties? She's like, no! All right, then, let's sue those fuckers. Please sue them. Please, please, please take this soap in the shape of Venus de Marlo. Because, you know, Gina's fearless. She's fearless, like a soap. Hashtag, no fear. All right, we have got to get through a lot of shows in the next 27 minutes, Ben. But by the way, I also have to give it up for Janet and her friend Manuela. Just totally mean Manuela. Oh, my God. Because we're Janet Manuela to your regular slot next season. Yeah, because when Janet was doing the First Nation of everybody, and Manuela's like, you know, that's a stripper move. Yeah, Manuela is apparently the puppet pulling all of these strings, because now it seems like she knows every single lady, she seems to have gotten a lot of them together, and she seems to be the one spreading all these malicious rumors in the first place. Yeah. And Janet even said, like, you know, she's one of those people that your friends with, because you just don't want them as an enemy. Oh, she had like the most queen bee line of all, which is like, she's like, listen, you and I, we run this town. Who is she? She just got here five minutes ago. She's been here five minutes. Yeah. Manuela will now start controlling this show. Welcome aboard, girl. Yeah. Welcome aboard. Last year, she was too classy for it, but this year, she's on board. Yeah, it's always happens. So what show do you want to go on to next? I'm so sorry to do this, but I have to pause to go hold my penis and make it go. Thank you. All right. We're back. I held my penis. I didn't wash my hands after. If you don't like it. Suck a dick. Seriously. Um, seriously. Let's go on to Atlanta. Let's go. Okay. Let me whip open my mutual no tezos. Um, oh, I didn't take any notes on this. I didn't take any notes. I watched it. What happened? You did. So basically Nini walked out and, uh, short out of therapy. And Dr. Jeff was like, "Nini, Nini, I really would like you to come back." And she's like, "Bah, bah." Um, and she's like, "You better worry about your license. You better worry about your license." And Dr. Jeff is like, "Nini." And she just, you know, the moose went back off to the wilderness. And so, um, so then Dr. Jeff came back and then he helped the woman go through problems. And there it was, uh, this really sort of, I was like really into it, this kind of extended montage, um, of, of the rest of the women working out their issues, you know, um, you know, uh, Portia and, uh, I think Portia and Kenya worked hard at it. But Portia and, and, and what's her face, the one that I like so much. What's the name of the new girl Claudia? They really worked out their stuff. Um, Dr. Jeff was great. He just, I felt like he, he really helped them. And I, I wish like every episode could be them all going to see Dr. Jeff. Uh, I do too just to see Nini get so upset. Yeah. Nini is so dumb. The way, the fact that she would even think it's like everyone's gang up on me. It's like, you're so, how could you like arrange this and then just storm out of it? It just drives me nuts. I mean, she, she, I wanted to have a reality check, but she never will because she, she's, she's mentally ill and she takes in this stuff through like very warped eyes and she's like incapable of seeing like, like her role in anything. Yeah. But Nini's pretty gross. I'm looking through the recap right now and trash time, which is very funny. One thing I just came upon, I think about the show way too much. My latest thought, I love the moment when Nini taunted Shirei at her last reunion and told her to get, get on the right team because she could help her out. Um, yeah. Everyone had an extra dose of fear into them when Shirei actually was cut. Portia was actually very involved this season, but the reason for her cut was that she wasn't open enough about her personal life. I think the producers really wanted Claudia Porsche war, but she wouldn't give it to him. Yeah, this girl's good. I like her analysis, but also it's made me realize that I did not watch this episode. I'm embarrassed. Oh, no, because I didn't do it on purpose. Like I'm that dumb and we have so many effing Bravo shows right now that I literally forgot to watch it. I thought I watched it and I didn't. Come on. That's sad. Yeah. I don't really remember, um, I don't really remember what else happened. I'm trying to think of like candy, did candy do anything. I mean, but basically a lot of it was the therapy stuff, um, at least the first chunk of it was and it was, um, Dr. Jeff was really great. Uh, I liked at one point he asked Kenya to apologize to Portia and Kenya's like, well, I will apologize, but she needs to give me an apology, whatever. And then Portia's like, no, no, no, no, no. And like Dr. Jeff was sort of just like, he said at one point, he's like, I want to challenge you to do better. And I was like, thank God it was like someone needed to say that. And I think they sort of got it. They're like, okay, like I need to do better. I can't just be like, I have to wait for an apology and it seemed like it worked, but of course it's reality TV and they, we've seen a million of these therapy sessions that seem like they work. And then they're fighting one second later on. I know if it actually worked, it'll be fired. Yeah, it didn't really work, but for me as a viewer in like fake TV land, it felt like it worked. Fatora sent her lawyers and papers to review because she wants to make sure she's protected PSA, make sure you're protected before you bone an air mattress in the before you bone on an air mattress in the projects. Good point. Later. All right. Well, sorry, I didn't watch a show, but I will have a tend to talk about next week because we're actually going to give this show so much time when we have two more episodes or one episode next week. I know. So I will bone up on that one. Let's move on to southern charm or would you rather shaw's because I did catch up with some shaw's. Um, let's talk about shaw's real quickly because I have things to say I feel like get my anger out. Okay. GG with your non rape storyline is every fucking rape victim out there completely horrified by this storyline because it's one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen. First we see GG talking about how other people drink too much and lose their temper. And now she's trying to suggest that that flirtation with Mike was somehow an attempted rape, which she has not used that word, but that's basically what she's saying on air over and over again week after week. What say you? So this is what I was thinking about like, it's, it makes me actually very uncomfortable in certain ways because, you know, do I believe that Mike tried to have sex with GG? I actually do believe that. I think that Mike is a dog and, and I believe he tried to get with GG. And when she first brushed this to be the season, I really did, I did believe her and I continue to believe her. But what drives me nuts is the way she's handling it, the way she's handling it on a reality show, the way she's like, she's sort of doling out the information almost for like dramatic reasons. It like takes away her credibility and it like lends credence to this notion of blaming the victim, you know, like, well, of course she's going to say it. I've got the, you know, like, which is always the problem. I don't think she, I don't think obviously she was raped because she didn't. They never had sex or anything like that. But you know, one of the, the, the issues with quote unquote rape culture is that people tend to blame the victim while she shouldn't have been walking there. She shouldn't have been wearing this. She shouldn't have been doing that out of that. And it's like, no, you should blame the guy, whatever. No, but in this case, I mean, I have to call bullshit right there because there's legit rape that happens all the time that this waters that down, you know, GG shouldn't have been acting like that. shouldn't have been wasted flirting with some fucking guy he's playing with my song right now I don't know I don't know I don't know up in his business all the time flirting with everybody being a whore in general and fucking everybody I think that I think that anybody trying to have sex with Gigi would not be a shock that's like trying to put it in a flashlight it's like well that's why non it's like not gonna fight you back you know what I mean and the minute she said no he stopped so I don't even understand what she's talking about how this is traumatizing to her in any way it's bullshit that's where that's why I'm that's why I'm uncomfortable this because I do believe that he tried to get with her I think he got drunk or whatever so what I don't think like a fucking piece of flypaper getting mad that flies are stuck to no no but but here's the thing like I don't I don't think that she was necessarily sorting with him or anything I really don't put any blame for the things that you said I actually don't blame her for that but what I don't what I don't like she's basically saying that like Mike you know tried to get with her and he's with a girl and that's like that's wrong that's very much the base of the argument and it's making whatever with everybody and tries to get everybody to want her ass and then the minute they try she's gonna try that I don't buy it I don't believe her at all I don't know I think this it and I think she's doing real rape victims a total injustice by acting like this she's acting like a total asshole and also the men you know what so what if a man tried to have sex with you shocker we're led by our penises if I got yelled up by everybody I tried to have sex with I'd be I probably mean jail you're gonna have so many women pissed off at you what should be pissed off at that because that was not rape there was nothing violent about it there was nothing she's not saying she's not saying it was right she's in she's insinuating that it was rapey you know the well maybe but the the issue is more that he has a girlfriend and that he's being all high and mighty and that it up but the truth is that was the same trip where they were all wasted sitting in the bathroom trying to look at his dick I mean give me a break those people all they do is talk about fucking insects and whose dick is biggest and even this episode let's all get naked and see his ass is best and then and and and this all they do is talk about sex does so just suddenly turn around and act like you're above it all and you can't believe someone would treat you like that and you can't even look at them the same when they're in the same room because fuck off you're a total slut my so my I mean in certain ways we were agreeing because I'm saying that what I don't like about this whole situation is that Gigi is just sort of like she's belaboring it you know her the crux of her issue is that Mike tried to have sex with her and he has a girlfriend and that's wrong and makes her feel uncomfortable the whole thing makes her feel uncomfortable it makes her think that he's a creep basically that's fine but rather than sort of like dealing with it either like confront him move on or whatever she's like sort of like teasing it out and she's making herself seem much more as if she were like a rape victim I think that's what you're getting at and that's what I'm saying it's totally disgusting she's going on national TV when he knows that he's when she knows that one of her supposed best friends is about to get married to somebody that he really loves this changing religions to be with him blah blah blah she's going on national TV and insinuating really creep overly creepy vibe she is not used the word rape but she is and what I'm saying is the reason why it makes what why I think it's uncomfortable to watch in a certain way is that because she's handling it in this way she's making people like you like what you just said and probably others being like oh well she shouldn't have been flirting da da da da da she's like taking away whatever ground she had to stand on she's ruining it because she seems like she's using it to serve a dramatic purpose to get people to like have pity for her whatever and what it's doing like what you said is it kind of it gives credence the idea of blaming the victim because she is she's making herself not seem credible anymore and so it just it makes that's all I'm saying yeah exactly because so many people have like if this was different and they were wasted and they were still making the same dick jokes and she was still making the thong jokes and they were still making all these sexual jokes and he said come here and she came there and he tried to get with her and she said no fuck off and then he like actually kept trying to get with her and like was trying to like force it okay I get it like that's one thing but that's not what happened and to make it to try and ruin somebody's marriage which you know she said that she showed up at her hotel room these people yeah but they were in each other's hotel rooms the whole fucking time and they were shit faced and had just been talking about his dick so like all I'm saying is I don't I don't think that you he is fabricating this I really don't I believe she's fabricating it I believe that but I think we but I guess well I guess we both agree we're just I totally think that it happened I don't think she's lying at all but when you're wasted with your friends and all you do is talk about sex and one of your friends tries to make out with you so what that happens it's like if that happened it's happened with me and my friends and I'm gonna sit there and hold that against my friends for a year and then try and embarrass him and ruin their relationship on that no you were fucked up in Mexico together and all you were doing was talking about fucking the entire time and you guys brag about the fact that you get so shit faced you can't even walk or see straight the next day and my problem with this show isn't even all of that is that these people have no love or respect for each other yeah you know they're supposed to be best friends and all they do is try and ruin each other's lives last year they were going after MJ for no fucking reason and Gigi and calling her a drunk and a crazy and blah blah blah this year they're calling Michael rapist I mean all this stuff that's been happening with Mike leading up to this season all the rumors have been is that Mike had an attempted rape against Gigi now that may not be their fault and maybe insiders like spinning it to make it something bigger but I came into this kind of knowing that that was gonna be what it was so to find out that this is what it was that this guy's had to like deal with this and this being his reputation for the past whatever year since they've been filming this and all these rumors have been going around because he flirted with her in Mexico when they were wasted after talking about his dick and her thong for hours like I'm just disgusted with her I'm disgusted with all of these fuck but I'm not I'm not disgusted but here's the thing though I mean I do I do think it's I don't agree with you when you say well she shouldn't have been drunk and flirting with him or whatever that's fine that's fine she's allowed to try and make a pastor so what they're wasted we're all sexual beings I'm not saying she shouldn't do that I'm saying that she shouldn't act like when she's acting like a total ho and a drunk like a loose girl like to quote mommy mom but like when you're acting like that and then you're shocked that guys are trying to get in your pants give me a fucking break lady like you walk around in your bikini talking about dick all the time like to be shocked that anybody would make a pass at you or to act like you're so above it and you're so innocent and you can't even talk to him anymore in public because it's just so shut the fuck up bitch get a job get a life I'm not I don't know if I'm gonna cosign on the idea that I don't need you if you if you're if she's drunk I don't need a cosign he's gonna want to get into her pants I don't know but yes I do think that when you get a fucking man drunk and you're walking around in your bikini talking about his dick and the show me your dick my thing is touching my thing right now you're flirting like I don't care if you want to call it flirting and I don't care what kind of politically correct world we live in you're fucking flirting with a dude and guess what happens when you flirt with dudes they get boners and and when they're drunk they will try and have sex with you because that's what we do we're fucking animals okay so if he tried to go further or did anything violent I would say fuck him what a rapist get rid of him fire him blah blah blah but for her to go trying to ruin his relationship and ruin his reputation for the past year over flirting with her when they were wasted after being sexual on a vacation in Mexico not buying a bitch please sit down I mean I mean I think that's where we agree which is that you know if you did try to get with her that's like fucked up because he has a girlfriend and I think that she should you know like I understand why she would be uncomfortable with that and that's how that's like that's really regardless of why it happened Ronnie like if it did happen I think she's entitled to feel uncomfortable about that situation because that is a weird thing you know like and then like when you hold on to that stuff it like she's been trying to be uncomfortable and be like dude last night we were wasted and you tried to make a pass at me that's not cool and he would have been like dude I'm sorry I was drunk we were getting overly sexual I'm sorry I didn't mean to disrespect you the end but the whole onto it for a year and try and raise my reputation as girl his wife and all that fuck you bitch when she originally broached it in the season premiere it's like okay I get that like you you know she was trying to just like ignore it and let it slide because you didn't want to ruin whatever but like sometimes when you hang on to those things it doesn't try to hang on to it until they started filming but what I'm saying is it does manifest so I get that but then when she lost me is that when they're at this 30th birthday party which by the way 30 for Adam I thought he was like 39 I when they said 30 his 30th birthday I thought it was like they're making a joke but at the fact that he's turning 40 and they were gonna joke that it was his 30th and it turns out he was really turning 30 I was shocked but anyway when she then like tells like these two like all these ancillary characters like a Sipha or whatever name is it and Sherman and a Sipha's boyfriend and it's like well he tried to fuck me and then walks out of the room it's like you know you now I'm no longer really on your side because now you're you're using this like you're as a weapon you're using it to more to assassinate his character you're not like you're not struggling with something that's on your mind you're now actually turning it into gossip which is what everyone else was saying she she's never had one moment of being a decent person not one all she does is sponge off of her parents she doesn't do shit with her life she's a bit you know she's a bitch to the only person who's trying to make her money she's an awful fucking human being to all of her friends she's betrayed everybody on this fucking show I mean I don't know what to say about her except she's a disgusting fucking human being and when you have friends actually gone through being raped and having to deal with that and having to go through all the stigma and all of the lies and all of the bullshit that men come up with to fight that like yes she deserved it and blah blah blah to be using it so casually because you need something to talk about because you're still sitting on the fucking floor of your apartment because you don't even have a goddamn job like get a life bitch like people like that are so toxic I mean I just want them out of my life so to even watch this person on TV just grosses me out it infuriates me and then to like have to have to compare it even to a real rape or like offending people who have been raped they should be offended at her like to me that's that's a crazy thought because I'm not being offensive I'm saying that people who lie and who try and smear reputations for attention are disgusting toxic human beings and no one should pay attention to them yeah and that's and that's what I was saying too which is that it's like she is she is thank you you cosified I'm posting on that which is that she is feeding into the blame the victim mentality because she's she is acting away where it makes people be like but like it's she's acting away where you where you're gonna your instincts it's really not to support her because now it seems like she's just being gossipy and she's just being awful she's being fucking awful meanwhile what else happened unless though asa burned incense at that the mercy oh yeah awesome who's so spiritual she needs to spend eleven thousand dollars a month of her parents money on a fucking car here's another one who doesn't have a job I hope your mom's having fun living in East Hollywood slums bitch where I lived and I know exactly how that is for a car asa you are really a weirdo now you're really fucking weird now come on let's fucking finish this up now her mom was the best part of the episode and in traffic being like fucking you're totally in my lane you're stupid fuck face mother fuck yeah let's see what it residue is like that's so Persian let's have a birthday party there's like a whole white people white people have birthday pities and chicken cheese it's so different than Persian people Persian people Persian people like don't have like birthday parties on the second floor of restaurants that was like I want a birthday party in the second floor of Cabrayos so we did that that's why I don't know anymore that party room was even tackier than his living room and that's an accomplishment like oh gosh yeah that is a major major accomplishment and you got to love him being like meeting MJ's boyfriend for the first time his best friend who hasn't had a man that's treated her well in years and his reaction is well if I was gonna be a 30 year old it certainly wouldn't be that ugly fuck I'm like what do you think you are Prince charming Reza oh my god you fat hairy fuck do you know how lucky you already even have a TV show to earn a boyfriend like you got you piece of shit you're gonna say that about your best friend gross what do you think Adam's friends are all saying about you I mean come on now that's just absolutely uncalled for and that guy I didn't think I mean yeah he might not be like classically handsome but he's not like I didn't I didn't use an ogre he just is balding that's all and I'm happy and I was like are you circumcised like shut up yeah he's not an ogre he's a nice guy I mean he's being nice to MJ I mean Jesus Christ he's a saint yeah thank him thank that man okay get him a fucking all of garden gift certificate to keep treating her right and by the way let's give MJ some credit for having a morning scene with her boyfriend where she had real bed hair bed head as opposed to like Vanderpump rules when she no wakes up and like in full face of makeup and I just got over my duty rage and then I get to this line of my note I feel rage sadness I can't stop crying I can't be in a normal group setting fuck you bitch seriously okay that's all I had to say I'm moving on now yeah I'm good yeah I think that those are the major things I mean yeah that was the end that that resin quote was my last thing gross you guys are gross but I am glad I'm watching it it was fun to watch I'll watch it just to watch the mom do more stuff and also to hate on GG and see what other victim bullshit she comes up with this season yeah well I mean and also I mean I can't stand Mike so it is I am enjoying my game he's a fucking me he's a needy he's a control you know he's like very controlling and he's he's very condescending to people especially women he's super condescending and then he gets drunk in his asshole yeah he gets to agree it's one of his bravo shows where it's like sticking up for one person doesn't make the other person right you know he's a he's a total ass but and then he's showing this like hideous mansion and then I love this other asshole who's like yeah you know you know the Saudi the Saudi princes are coming through the Saudi like the sultans are coming and this would be a good house for their servants and like oh you know what just go away yeah everybody just jump up oh yes yeah really gross congratulations person people could be just as disgusting as white people you've proved a great point guys my work person that's so perfect they're so pretty and I you know huh I'm gonna can't sell a house for the life okay so why don't we go to southern charm yeah that show makes me angry that saws god I'm still pissed off about talking about saws like I can't let it go Ronnie you know why don't you do as Patricia does and sit back and have a perfect martini Patricia I had two butlers to make informed me I sure would you lazy bastard I love Patricia I love she had a few great lines I think my two the two lines the shed three lines that I actually wrote down first is when she says every day at 5 p.m. I require a perfect martini which is you know it's like my it's like I know people like that my favorite was I don't have a husband right now so I feel the house with butlers I mean yeah that was my next favorite it's like I love that as she just waves her hand and she does that just like you know just get butlers instead and then I also like when she was like being shady about Thomas the second Christine she's like it was like being in Tierra del Fuego so I just I was like oh she should just speak about things in Mexico or just anything with like a Latin name all the time I was at on delays down and like she was had one too many enchiladas if you know what I'm saying she's funny someone wrote on our Facebook they're like God I see a lot of Patricia love on this page and she's disgusting if you ever had to work for somebody like that they're racist they're judgmental they're mean it's like yes we don't like it because we want to work for her you like it from a distance yeah it's funny I was saying that to when I was watching I was like you know this this lady she's probably some she's probably from Lasus bitch and yeah this old bitch man horrible like on TV it's like what it's like she's just great because you know what I think feel like I feel like on TV it's like you have to you can't help but like enjoy that this woman just doing her thing and she's just living her life and she's like glamorous and I don't know she's better on buddy who can be I mean if you if you think about who she is okay she's a lonely old lady she's just failed merit as her sons a fucking moron like I mean we'll get to him he's 47 years old in a band called Rinaab which is boner backwards which he's paying like a bunch of 20 year olds to treat him like he's cool and drink beers with him and say bro a lot I mean it's just sad and the only company she has is like the sad gay guy down the street and the butlers that she hires so to see somebody like that who's so it's like when you see a homeless person in a poa you know just something so fantastic about that I'm a West Hollywood our homeless people are colorful yeah no I think I think you're right she does have a very sad existence I think I think what needs existence is even sad or when he's like got his big old shoe pay on jamming out of his John Travolta wig and his terrible face surgery his eyebrows like oh his hipster shit he has like no career although admittedly he is a producer on this show but like and I think it's he's like I think I actually believe he's like very smart I think he's very smart and I think we said this last season he is basically an old fussy conservative Republican and he's like trying to be a hipster rock star I'm like no put on your your pink trousers and get on get put a white blazer on and have bow tie and go have your juleps and be it's a southern conservative funny do you just do it that's who you are well I love that you bring up the example like well he did do this show and that's a success because to us it is like you produce a Bravo show you're in the second season people love it that is a success but where he's from it's not you know he's from it's like bottom of the barrel that's like all you could accomplish was doing some shit you know reality show I mean I love when Patricia gets on him about his career remember last season she's asking about like the film's like what about that film career the film school you went to what about your restaurant what about your I love it I just love it yeah it's like a failure of a woman brow beating her failure of a son and just both wrapped in like big feathery blankets pretending it's all fabulous you know yeah and he shows up with like a hickey on his neck which is clearly he gave that to himself with a vacuum cleaner totally it's like yeah vacuum cleaner hickey yeah but anyway so there's a lot of a cat I choose a vacuum cleaner on my belly button to try and get an outie because I thought that people with outies were all skinny I mean what the hell I used I used to use a vacuum cleaner on my floor to get it clean but then I stopped so Katherine let's see we had Katherine she was like I had to experiment in the kitchen so I'm I'm nanny's on Sam at first I was like that is disgusting this is like the most disgusting like Midwestern recipe but then by the end I was like I put that's actually really good it is that is southern we do that we do that in Texas too when you go to Luby's in Texas they put Manny they put a layer of mayonnaise and the breadcrumbs on top of the fish and it's delicious I believe that I actually 100% believe that and then she was like how do I make a swirl yes they're like well I think you just put it in a pot with water and she's like where do I find the water to be fair she's way ahead of where I was when I was 21 I mean literally she has a baby but like when I was 21 I could not cook for shit I remember one time putting I used to know cook chicken breasts you know as I said for many people have in a pan you know and you cook it on one side and then you put on the other side and then eventually is done and you put on your plate one time I got a chicken breast from the store and it was bone in I didn't realize like oh okay so I just put it on the frying pan that shit took about 45 minutes and it was still like raw on the inside it was just like a disaster I will never forget that a press experience oh Catherine one thing that I love that they cut to Patricia saying she's like well Catherine comes from a long line her family name is impeccable but listen being from having someone in your family that was classy 200 years ago doesn't make you classy now yeah you bought you have is like well a lot of coffee room both have good French Huguenot blood and sure she's a little immature times but also lover I'm like whatever you have been saddled with this awful life decision and now you have to look at it Thomas is really an awful guy like they're really showing him to be more and more terrible this year and I think I think it's just as terrible as he was last year but yeah I love him I don't know why he didn't bug me last year for some reason there's like a glint of evil in his eye this year that I'm just not oh yeah I can't get past like this year he just seems mean last year he seemed dumb like a dumb rich guy who can't believe now he's so old and he's fucked up his life but he's still got money to do whatever like there was something exciting about it last year I don't know like a dream but this year it's just a mean guy like he purposely moves this young girl all the way out in the middle of nowhere and makes him do all this stuff and then he's like well I don't know if she's good enough to be my wife I mean is she really the right political choice dude you impregnated a 21 year old and didn't even marry her ass and then trapped her in a house out in the middle of nowhere how is that a good political decision you jackass exactly you know if he had a shot at his candidacy he definitely lost it with Catherine and so it's funny so he had a he had like an announcement he lost it at the cocaine thing he did but people have come back from that I mean look at Marion Barry or look he was married he was a this guy was just a taranto what's his face I don't think treasure is get a second chance I mean I think if you fuck up his treasure you're done okay if you're mayor maybe you get a second chance but the treasure now especially in the south where I think that character is a lot more important but but either way so he has a dinner at JD's restaurant to announce his candidacy and there's some like lady there poor Catherine this girl you know she obviously put on some pounds after having the baby and she is trying to MJ arm her face she had so much contouring on her face her she had so much contouring on her cheeks it was like she looked like she actually had a beard it was so severely dark I was like oh honey it's okay we get it you put on baby like so good I mean when they started right after she had had the baby she'd gained so much weight and she's lost so much weight I mean I think she looks great I actually think you know it's I really enjoy the show I really enjoy T-RAV and everything but the situation is very sad because this girl is a party girl and as she said it's all come to stop and you can see she wants to go back to her party ways and you can see that T-RAV does not want to be saddled with the baby and they are now like stuck in a situation for the rest their lives and I was like come back don't leave me I'm not letting you leave me Thomas come back like the least energy of any character on television Katherine yeah she's like how do I make a sparragist Thomas gets mad because the dinner is cold how about I think it was Cameron who said the line about you know because Katherine wore this like super prim outfit to the dinner and Katherine's like if I were her I would shoot for Kate Middleton not Mrs. Doubtfire Cameron's a total asshole but she is so funny and she hits the nail on the head every time she's like and well at least your baby isn't ugly yeah you know we have to you know last year this or yeah last year when we did our little crappies awards we nominated T-RAV for something but I think that this year we have to remember that Cameron and Shep should really be in the running for best reality because you know what Shep is great too he is because he is a you know he we should hate him he's just like a spoiled rich kid doing whatever he wants but he is funny and smart and he and Cameron is having the best time on the show and Mike Patricia they do not give a fuck like people like that are so entertaining to watch exactly no they're they're both great I love I feel like Shep is actually very smart I mean he went to Vanderbilt business school which is you don't just like walk in there even if you are rich well maybe if you are rich you do but he's a smart guy he's just doing nothing with his life and he's like totally owns up to it as opposed to Craig why should he's rich as hell I mean you go to work to make money yeah speed which Craig he I thought it was an asshole last season and he's just even more of an asshole this he's just the worst oh could you imagine family dinners at that house this week we met their brother and they're like hey bro hey bro what are you doing nothing what are you doing nothing how's work sucks how's work with you I'm gonna take over dad's business I'm like why is this scene still going on that's all it was we should hang out yeah man let's hang out like I don't like to work all day yeah I don't I don't want to take the bar I want to have a little bit of a break you know before I take the bar like yeah congratulations on your career that's going nowhere that's exactly what lawyer that's what exactly what law firms love is a lawyer who just wants to take a break for a little bit yeah I think if you ever run for judge are gonna play this clip over and over again you know what they you know what they call taking a break Craig it's called working a law firm in Charleston oh hey oh my favorite part is the coming the season clips they showed last week where Cameron's like you lost your job you lost your house what is rock bottom I love that like when do you hit rock bottom so I'm actually enjoying the storyline because it's like hot guy come up and you know because you always see like it seems sometimes like hot guys are just handed everything especially on shows like this you know where it's all about like the handsome all-American boy and he went to law school and you just figured he'd be like this hot shot lawyer this year but he's just a loser to move to like yeah he basically moved to the worst place he moved to a city full of like hot rich guys who don't have to work so he's actually at the bottom of the totem pole he's so he therefore is actually not hot at all yeah you're just not working like it's cool when I'm rich and you don't have to work but you're not rich you're just not working yeah like how do you think that that blonde girl Danny that gorgeous blonde girl Danny who is like the dream like southern Bell waspie whatever who works in wine you think she's gonna go for a shep the working-class lawyer who's trying to come up in the world I'm not shep I mean Craig or shep or anyone like shep who just has 200 years of wealth behind him sorry Craig yeah sorry buddy boy romance in the me the hostess at JD's restaurant yeah you need to move to Pasadena yeah you need to move to California where there's no such thing as old money yeah well you would make money just because you're cute here and you work out okay someone will give you something you're in the wrong city stop holding on to all these ideals that you'll never be a part of or have come sell out or have Whitney manage your modeling career in some form like listen I got you a gig at the Red Lobster you do a fashion parade like Australian style all you have to do is you have to walk from the host table to the regular table and while you're doing that you may have to show some people to their table oh you know what I'm sorry you I got your job as a host mmm sorry so for this fashion show you're gonna be walking with a tray with some food on it walk the runway is from the kitchen to various tables we'll tell you each time which table you have to go to oh wait a second my bad you're a waiter just pick up these pictures these heavy pictures and these bread baskets full of cheesy biscuits oh sorry you're a best boy yeah sorry sorry and if anyone asks you like this is not a traditional fashion show so if someone says hey I would like the ultimate feast you just go into the kitchen and you bring out the ultimate feast it's part of the fashion show the bib the bib you actually don't get to wear that that's not for the models that's actually for the that's for the press and by press I mean people eating at the restaurant just make sure you make a good impression on Anna one tour Joanie Garcia she's at table three she wants more cherry please get free oh my god so are there any shows that we missed I don't think 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