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Enjoy 40% off your Shutterfly order with promo code Crap and Sporty and send something meaningful this year. Get free shipping on qualified orders, see site for more details. [Music] Hey everyone, welcome to Watch what Crap is. A podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just absolutely love to talk about and watch and things like that. I'm Ben Mandelker from bsideblog.com and the banter blender podcast and joining me, as usual, is Ronnie Karam from trashtalktv.com. Hi, Ronnie. Hello Ben. Hello, hello. You know, last week I erroneously said that Real Housewives of Melbourne were coming back last week, but they're not, they're coming back this week. Tomorrow, so not Ben. Many Australian accents to come, I'm sure. But in the meantime, mosey on over to Watch what Crap is.com to find all our social media links, they're very rewarding. Chief among them is facebook.com/watch what Crap is, where we post all sorts of links and photos and screenshots. 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I think I pimped out all that we need to pimp out, right? Yes. Well, that's good. I think so. Because we have much to talk about this week. We have a near throwdown on Atlanta. We have an actual throwdown on Beverly Hills. We have the Vanderpump Rules season finale and we have the Shahs of Sunset season premiere. Wow, that's a lot. Yeah, let's do it. What do you want to start with being up? I think we have to start with Beverly Hills. That is the, it's like, once in a while, an episode of a Bravo show comes around where you're watching it and you can't believe what you're seeing and you have to start texting your friends. That was me last night. Yeah, wow. Kim Richards. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Kim Richards. Also, Bravo flipped the script on us by opening with that. Opening with the, I was shocked. I was like, we were 12 minutes in and I'm already jaw to the ground. Yeah, my phone started buzzing like crazy. Everybody was texting me. Can you believe this shit? I know. I just was like texting people. I was like, Kim Richards. Kim, motherfucking Richards. Kim Richards really needs to, she needs to get, she needs to slow her role and take a seat. She needs to stop rolling the seat. Okay, if anybody is going to be giving Kim Richards drugs anytime soon. Hey, get some downers. Let's try those. Oh my god, this was a, I feel like this was actually, I feel like one of the most noteworthy fights in Beverly Hills history. Yeah, this was pretty good. So it starts with Yolanda take, they, they are Roy. They are Roy. They are Roy. So I can't wait for Melbourne. They arrive in Holland. And Yolanda, of course, is claiming everything is dead. She's like, oh, look, the room is blue. It's so dark. I know. Oh, look at the horses. That's so dark. Oh, people are on bicycles. That is so dark. There are two chairs in this room. That's so dark. Dutch people love chairs and beds. Oh, Dutch people love to sleep in a bed. A man held a door open for me at a hotel. That is so dark. There's a take in the ensuite. That's so dark. Oh, they have pillows on the bed in a hotel room. That is so dark. So it starts with that. There's, I guess, a little tension in the air, just because Kim and Brandy are there. And you know they're going to be awful. You just know. Because Brandy has been winding up her little coke doll. Winding or up? Winding or up? Crank. Crank. And they all get to dinner. And by the way, Kim Richards was the last person ready to go. They all mean a lot. She was the last. Never forget. Always. Never forget airport. Tums and Wypener knows every time. So they go to dinner finally. And of course, since this is Yolanda's trip, it has to begin with a Yolanda speech. Yes. By the way, I am all to my dinner. Yeah. But by the way, it's also very stirring the pop speech, if you ask me. Oh, yeah. She's like, let us all talk about our deepest issues to make us closer together. Because that's what the Dutch do. For example, my daughter got DUI. I am so sad. Okay. Now who, Kim? Now who? Yeah. Um, which of course, Lisa Rinna, who is already a pro housewife, before any of this even happened. She's already learned to manipulate every little thing to her favor. She's taken somebody else's sobriety and made it her own storyline the whole year. She has gone around to every house. I mean, there are some things you got to give Kim a little credit for it. Yeah. Lisa has done that. She has made it all about Kim's sobriety, blah, blah, blah. And so of course, Rinna, who's just been told off by Kim, and Kim says later, she'd been texting her. Let's just drop it. Yeah. It's the first to speak. And she starts fake crying about her sister who died. I mean, it's terrible to say that it's true. She was fake crying about her sister dying when she was 21 of a drug overdose. And I'm sorry if I come across too harsh, but that's why Kim and then Kim's like, God damn it. Well, here's the thing. Here's, I mean, on the one hand, I can sort of understand Kim's frustration because she said drop it like three times. I get that. On the other hand, Lisa was sharing something. I was just trying to kind of, I think that Lisa was trying to kind of illuminate. It was sort of like an apology. It was sort of like, this is why, so I'm sort of like sorry that, like I know you keep telling me to drop it, but if you want to know, this is why I've been like a little crazy about it. And you know, and I think she was sort of trying to be like, sort of send an olive branch or whatever. And then, and she's like, so that's why. And then Kim's like, she's like, no, I'm sorry. If, you know, if I have, you know, really like, come on too strong or like mess, mess with your, with your situation. And then Kim's like, you have, you have in the music just like, goes from like being sweet and like sympathetic to suddenly being like, blah, blah, I'm like, okay. Everyone get ready. Here comes the fight. Yeah, she's like, yeah, but you have, you have gotten into my life. And I've told me that. No, I don't appreciate you. Yeah. And I thought that was- You're my director. And I thought that was a moment, I thought that was a, that was a nasty moment for Kim actually, because I think that I do- Oh my god. I think that was like- I was ready to fight. Yeah, because I think that Lisa was being nice. Trying about her sister, Kim's rolling her eyes and giving her dirty looks. Kim should have just said, thank you. And I would have dropped right there. I would have ended right there. Or she would have said, thank you. You know. If you're really recovering, you say, I really appreciate that. Thank you for explaining yourself. I'm sorry I got defensive. It's just, I don't appreciate people questioning my sobriety on that. Exactly. No, when I obviously have been working on it for three years, it's starting to feel like people are like, going after me on purpose. And I just didn't appreciate it. That's all. I'm sorry I yelled. That's all she had to do. Well, Kim is obviously either still used. I mean, nobody who's in recovery is that defensive. I'm sorry. I've never seen it. Absolutely. When you're in recovery, that's when you hit rock bottom and you just become- you have to learn to- Be accountable for your actions. And realize that people- An accountability. The way that people are reacting to you is because of stuff that you've done. In the case of Kim Richards, she was high as a kite with Lisa Rinna in a car for an hour. So, of course, Lisa Rinna is going to go around asking people like, "Is everything okay with Kim? Is she- is she really sober?" Like, I honestly think that- I mean, I know I'm not like alone in this, but I think that like, you know, Lisa Rinna doesn't know Kim very well. And she was exposed to Kim being very high and disruptive for a night. And I think it's totally reasonable, especially when someone like Lisa Rinna has had this exposure to people who've been addicts. I think it's reasonable for her to go around and be like, "Hey, what's the deal with Kim? Is she really in treatment? Is she- does she have a sponsor? Like is she okay?" I think it's like it is during the pot, but it's also like a reasonable during the pot. Like the pot needed to be stirred a little bit. Well, yes, it's saying, you know, she's saying she's sober, but no one quite- it's like no one questions it. Has she even been to rehab? Because, you know, it's pretty rare to be drunk since you're six years old or whatever. And then just suddenly be sober, because you hired some guy that comes to your house and tells you everything's going to be okay every once in a while. You know, that's not really the program. And some people don't believe in the program, like passages. I met an addict this week. We were talking about addiction. And he was saying that passages doesn't believe in that. They don't believe in the AA way of doing things. They have a whole different way of doing things, which is about personal responsibility and what caused you to do drugs in the first place. And why you're making that choice, it's not that the drugs are evil, it's that your choices are self-destructive because you hate yourself or whatever, you know? There's like different ways to look at it, but Kim's not even doing that. She's- she's never said what she's done. She's hired some guy to come in and talk to her occasionally, like some kind of therapist. Well, she says she's in treatment. That's what she says. No, she says she's in treatment. In and out of treatment right here. That's what I'm saying. I wasn't saying it as support for her, but I'm saying that's like all she says, this vague term being in treatment, which you know, it's treatment is actually supposed to be like an ongoing thing. Like I have a friend, like one of my very good friends is sober. And he's great. He's like, you know, you would think that this is a demon, this was an issue that he no longer has to deal with, because he's just, you know, he comes to bars with us. He is like a random drunk people all the time. Like it just seems like, oh, like he got- he has a handle on this. But you know what though? He still goes to AA meetings religiously every single week. Even when we went out of town, we went- we went like a group of us went out of town. He found an AA meeting in Big Bear, which is where we went. Like he- it's like- it's important, because it's like important for a lot of people to stay on track, you know? And I think that one of the issues here is that there doesn't seem to be any indication, like that Kim seems to be doing anything now that she's out of treatment. Like it's- it's like it should be- in my mind, I shouldn't say in my mind, but it just- it would seem that if you're following a certain brand of treatment, not maybe not the passages version, that you would be doing some outpatient stuff. Yeah, so I mean, that's from Lookers On. They're like, well, I don't see her in treatment, and she's still acting really irrational and erratic. And even before that night, she was still acting like a drunk. And I don't know if that's because so many of her brain cells have been eaten by the alcohol, and I'm not even saying that to be a dick, but you know, long-term drunk. Sometimes they're just like, that's it, you know? Well, the only thing is- It's not like Kim was just a drinker anyway. There were drugs involved. Don't you remember when she was crawling around on the floor trying to find a baggie? I mean, what the hell was that? Yeah, it's not just drugs. Yeah. I mean, it's not just alcohol. Well, you know, also, I mean, um, you know, Kim's defense to Lisa Rinna was like, listen, like I've been sober for three years. My real friends have seen me. And my real friends know my been drinking. And my real friends would proud of me. And my real friends would have said something if they saw that kind of behavior. And then, we saw it. Yeah, exactly. We said like, well, I did see it. And I thought that was such a great thing for her to say, because it doesn't matter if Brandy or Lisa Vanderpump or Kyle haven't seen it. What matters is that someone saw it. And it's like, I don't know. I just think it's like, I don't think that it's wrong for Lisa to have gone and talk to people. Because, listen, put yourself in that situation. How many times have you been with someone and they don't really know very well? And they are like wasted, you know? Like, imagine you go out with someone and they're like, wasted or they're like, just a sloppy mess. And then afterwards, you go, what's the deal with that person? Like, are they like, they're drunk, right? Are they like an alcoholic? You're like, it's, I don't know, it's like a normal thing. All of this is that, and this was what ran through the entire episode, not just this fight. But what makes this worse is that they're on national TV, right? So she's basically saying, you're going on national TV and calling me a drunk behind my back to everybody on camera and using it as your storyline. And then you're coming to me at some party acting like you give a shit about me when, obviously, you don't because you've been hurting me by saying all this shit about me on national TV, which hurts my children. But the, you know, the thing that bugs me so much about Kim is she cannot even phrase it to where she's ever responsible. She says things like, alcohol ruined my life for years. And now it's not going to anymore. And I'm not going to let Lisa either. No, alcohol didn't ruin your life. You ruined your fucking life. You ruined your children's life. You did this, Kim. You drank, you used, you were the fuck up. Not alcohol, and you took a pill. You took a pill that you were like, well, she keeps saying, well, I took a pill and, you know, it didn't agree with me. I just took something for the pain. But it's like, it's not as simple as that. Like you don't take a pill that's not prescribed to you, that you don't know if you, especially if you're an addict. And I know we're-- That was obviously not just a pill. Look, anybody who, I'm from addicts, I could be an addict at any point. Lord knows I go there and experiment. And I've taken pretty much every pill. And I've never taken a pill like that. That makes you act like that. She was a drunk mess. That was not a pill. I mean, give me a break. So to even play with her on that is everybody being in denial. And I can't believe that nobody said, there's no way that was a fucking pain pill, Kim. There's no way. What was it? Yeah. I don't know, I mean, we sound very harsh right now. I feel like we're center like, it's your fault. Yeah, no, no, no, like, it's not like, it's not trying to like shame her being like, she should be ashamed of the fact that she's an addict. But it's more like she should, it's more like it's frustrating to hear her be so like, I feel like being incredibly defensive and not understanding her role in this situation. You know, I think that's what's frustrating for me personally. Yes, that's what frustrates me. Just coming from it, being raised around it and having so many family members going through it right now, to see somebody being so irresponsible about it. Just pisses me off. I don't care if you're representing sobriety or drug addict. If you are, you're probably one of my best friends because I'm no angel. But it just bugs me seeing people take zero responsibility. You've got to own your shit, man. And this girl not only doesn't own it, but puts it on everybody else and tortures everybody else with it. It's nobody's fault. And I also really don't like, just to fast forward a little bit into the fight. And it's actually the most fun fight. It was, I know, well, it was like fun, but like serious too. Because the thing, okay, so we'll just describe a little bit of the fight and then we'll get to this point. So what happens is that Kim gets really mad, at Lisa Renna, and then she's like, "Well, I don't talk about it in your home life. We don't talk about Harry or whatever." And she starts implying that she has some sort of dirt on Lisa Renna, like that she knows something, like things aren't right. Like maybe there's an affair or maybe there's some mentality or things are like fake or whatever. She starts to get really nasty about it. And in my mind, I was like, it just read as brandy. It was like clearly brandy has been beating her. Things like, "Well, I heard that Lisa Renna's doing this." And the reason why she's doing it, by the way, this is my theory. The scene when brandy threw the wine at Eileen, and then Eileen and Lisa were like, "You're crazy." Rather than brandy, it probably made brandy feel like shit. These are two women that she looked up to, and they're both like, "You're crazy." And brandy's way of dealing with it is probably to turn them into the bad ones, rather than to acknowledge the fact that what she did was totally batch of crazy and ridiculous. That's like very basic psychology. - Well, no one takes brandy seriously anymore, so she's using somebody else to fight her battles. And it's so obvious that she's doing it. And she's just sitting there with a little smile on her face while she drinks her wine and watches it. - Yeah, exactly. So she obviously is feeding all sorts of lines to Kim about Eileen and about Eileen and Lisa. 'Cause in the middle of this, while Kim is starting to talk about suggestions about Lisa's home life, then she starts going after Eileen. 'Cause Eileen is tripping up. Eileen is great during the fight, I'd like to say. She is so like soap opera dramatic. - She pulls out, yeah. She pulls out her Kristen D'Amira. - Yeah, she's like really does. She's giving her those eyes and everything. It's awesome. 'Cause Kim starts pointing at both of them. - I'm like, "I need to, I need to, I need to." - Don't point your fucking finger at me, Kim. Don't do it. - I'm like, "We go, boo." - Yeah, and then she, all I remember, Eileen said a bunch of good things, but all I can remember should be like, "Shame on you, Kim." And I was like, "Yes, I love her." "I'm sick of you, you beast." And she went, "Beast, how dare you?" Yes, it was amazing. She's like, "I invite you into my home." And then Kim's like, "Well, I don't like you, I don't like you." And then Eileen said something, which I appreciated very much. She said, "You know what?" She's like, "Well, in this moment, I don't like you." Which I thought was very good, because she was saying, "In this moment." Yeah, and Kim goes, "I don't like your hair, your face, your attitude." And then she starts going after Kyle, and she's like, "And why don't you stick up for me?" It was just like this whirlwind of awfulness that was coming out. Like, just, it was crazy. I mean... - Like, Kathy is the only sister who's support. - Yeah, what'd you say, Kathy? - Yeah, it was support. You know, if I'm drinking too much, Kathy will eat three boxes of ice cream. She's support. What are you eating? You're making money, and you're raising children. You think you're so great. When she compared her to Kathy, oh, I was like, "This woman is evil right now." And on top of that, it's like, you can see the ghost of their mother talking through Kim right now. And this is... - She's a hateful witch. And you know that Kathy supports Kim by putting money in her account and making sure there's a bodyguard standing outside with a bottle of Stoli, in case Kim gets enough energy to come to a family function. They're like, "No, no, go back to bed, Kim." - Go back to bed. Kathy's giving us this bottle of medicine for you. Just lie down, darling. - Yeah, oh. - Kathy doesn't want her near any family function. - It was such a nasty moment. It was so intensely real. That's why I think it was so shocking. That's why I was like, "Oh my God, what is happening right here?" Because this wasn't just like a spat in the basement of a New Jersey home. You know, we're the hair tugging just for the camera. This was a deep shit is coming out right now. And like, you know, it goes back to my theory. Remember my theory I had? I don't forget what it was, which show made me say this theory. But like, oh, it's about Orange County, about how like the slow build all season long. And then once you get to the fight, it's like the most crazy thing ever because it's been a slow build. I was supposed to New Jersey where I was like, you know, a fight for fights sake right off the bat. - Yeah. Yep. Well, this one too is an attic in the corner, you know? - Right. It's someone who's like, to me, I'm sorry to keep saying it. But to me, it's someone who's obviously still using being defensive because nobody who's working on themselves and working on their sobriety would be defensive like that. Nobody. I would, I would, I, I actually will not say whether or not she's still using, because I really don't know. But what I will say is it's what you just heard, what you just said is that like, she is not someone who's working on herself. It is clear she is or she's not doing it in a productive way. That seems to be showing any demonstrable effects. Because she is still pointing the fingers literally at other people. You know, when she's the one who, she's the one who acted crazy that night at that poker night, you know? And as Eileen mentioned, Eileen's like, no, you actually never apologized to me about that, you know? That's a big deal. That's a really big deal. If someone comes in, if you're hosting something and someone comes in and they are drunk and being crazy, and then they never apologize, of course you're going to harbor resentment towards that person. You know, once she didn't even, she didn't even really harbor resentment for her towards that. She was just talking about the basic drunk thing. Yeah. You know, I don't know that she was resentful. I think she was, I mean, maybe trying to be helpful. I mean, I don't really know. I don't know Eileen's motivations. It's hard to tell what she's thinking yet, because she's not out of the closet. Is a rank bitch yet, which she will be. She will be. Oh, she will. So either way, so Kim comes back to the Harry Hamlin thing, and then Lisa already just loses her shit. First she tries to, first she tries to jump across the table and tries to strangle Kim. Which is like, you know, not totally unreasonable. I put it in the, I put in the recap, ran a lunches at her to throttle that turkey neck. This is how the pilgrims did it for the first Thanksgiving. Sounds about right. I'm not turkey neck. And then she has that amazing moment where she like rises slowly, like one of these like Disney villains, like gaining power, like Ursula, like rising from the water or something like that. She rises up. She's like, don't you dare talk. So your hands off your husband throws down that glass, throws the wine at Kim, then throws the glass down. Oh yeah, you're right. The floor. And then Kyle goes running. It was like amazing. And then Kyle, Kyle runs out. She runs away as if the building just caught on fire. She doesn't know what to do. It was this amazing, like primal. Morning going, everyone will know, everyone will know. Oh my god, it was. Then they all leave. Meanwhile, Kim sitting there sucking the fucking wine out of her dress. Meanwhile, yeah, meanwhile, then Brandy somehow makes it about her. She's like, now I'm, she's like, this is crazy. Now I am here with glass on my skin. Brandy is the real victim here. She got glass shards, which probably is just like ice cubes, you know. And then Kim's like, me too. I got all on my hair, I got it on my face, my skin. You have any pain pills that hurt. Yeah. So meanwhile, so this is the point that I wanted to get to a little while ago, was that then Kim starts complaining to Brandy about like, listen, you know, come at me. It's fine. But when you start talking to everyone. She literally said this thing. Everybody's out of the restaurant except Brandy and Kim. Kim's just screamed, everyone will know. Yeah. Shannon Bedor stuff. Why is everyone? How can people be so mean? Yeah. That's what she said. Yeah. That's like, bitch, are you kidding? Yeah. She leaned back and was like, how can people be so unbelievable? Meanwhile, those poor Dutch people on the restaurant were like, what's just going on here? But so then, so then what happens is that Kim then has this monologue where she says, look, when I was drunk, like I almost saw some whole family and now I've been working on my sobriety really hard. And for someone to be going around to talk to everyone and to raise suspicion about my sobriety, this could make my kids like, never trust me. This is really important. This could, this affects my kids. Like, don't go after my kids. So I sort of understand the warp logic. I get it. But at the same time, I don't think you have a right to say, don't go after my kids when you have just suggested on national TV that there's like a sham marriage going on between Lisa and Harry. Like, talk about first. Renee did it first. That's why she did it. That's what she tells you along now. Well, she did. And that's classic brandy. That's classic brandy because brandy's whole-- There's also an attic, by the way. Yeah, brandy's whole thing is like, if you hit me, I'm going to hit you back in just the same way. Instead of like two wrongs, don't make her right, you know? And that's what Kim did, which is like, if you are going in peril markets, I'm going to imperil your kids, which is really fucked up, you know? But she imperiled her kids because she looked like a total coke head nutcase. Exactly. Like, that girl looked like she found coke immediately after coming off the plane. That's what it looked like. Right. And she looked completely wasted, screaming, yelling like a maniac. She's doing it to herself. I mean, if her kids are embarrassed, they've always been embarrassed. And nobody's done that before. Right, exactly. And that's the flaw in her logic. Because her logic seems to make sense. Like, you're getting in between me and my family. Don't do that, OK? But the truth is, it wasn't Lisa Rinna who got-- it's getting in between her and her family. It was Kim Richards, who took a pill, did not know what the side effects were, acted like this. And she's the one who caused the suspicions to be raised. Lisa Rinna would-- That's just silly. Like, the Kim Richards took a pill. That alone, again, is just silly. That was not a pill. Kim Richards went completely caywire and off the wax. Whatever it was, she was in an altered state at that party. And she-- you know, you have to take responsibility for that. You can't be like, well, I didn't say well with me. When you are sober, that's like-- I don't know, in my mind, that's like not up. If I were like a family member, that's a really big deal. And of course, like, you have to understand the repercussions. Like, of course, if you have a history of substance abuse, and then you act like that, of course, people are going to be questioning your sobriety. And so it's not really Lisa who is-- it would seem like it's Lisa who's getting in between her and her family. But it's really Kim. Like, Kim, you have to hold-- you have to, like, take responsibility for your actions. But she never will. And speaking of never taking responsibility, I love that Brandy sums all this up by going, these women just don't know how to let something go. Oh, my God. Eddie Cibrian. Eddie Cibrian. That's one of the night. Yeah. Like, go slash Eddie Cibrian's tires again, why don't you? How about, why don't you go, like, ruin your friendship with Lisa based off of Sheena? How about that? Yeah, they don't know how to let things go. Oh. How about you use-- So then the ladies go kind of their separate ways and their separate groups. Everybody's sobbing outside. And Yoli stays with Brandy and Kim, and it's like, you cannot do that to somebody's family. And then Kim does her whole-- That's my family. Yeah. And then Rin is like, I will never speak to Kim right now. Oh, God. I know. Cut to them, talking to their next scene. But the very next morning-- But I appreciated Yoli going up to Kim and be like, you can't talk to people that way. Like, what happened? You can't talk that way. You can't talk. But it's like, she's right. Yeah. You know? Yup. Yoli. So it was the-- I mean, it was probably funnier than obviously, we're making it more serious because-- It's serious shit. Like, it really is. I mean, I was hooting and hollering when it was happening. I just couldn't believe it was happening, but-- But this is a serious podcast. So we have to talk about it seriously. Yeah. We have to talk very seriously about it. But it was really-- I mean, it was amazing. Ah, yeah. Oh, what am I hearing? Don't you fuck with Harry. BAM! So I got rid of the table and grabbing a Kim's turkey neck. And then Kim's like, well, shh. I mean, I'm a little afraid. Yeah, I almost got my throat ripped out. My eyes poked out of glass. Poor Kim. Poor Kim. Unfortunately, none of that happened and no one's going to give you a Viking. She's like-- She's like, let's do that take again. We're filming "Fast and Furious," right? Okay. Where's the car? I got to get another glass thrown at me. Okay. Take three. Okay. Um, so let's-- What did you think about-- Ronnie, you always have a lot of very vibrant opinions about Kyle. So do you have a lot of conspiracy theories that Kyle-- Kyle is so excited because now everybody-- you know, this is an example where everybody sees-- I'm not saying that Kyle's never had to go through anything, okay? I'm just saying that Kyle makes everything about her. So Kim's having a nervous breakdown, whatever the hell's going on. So of course, immediately, Kyle's like, no, you see what I have to go through. She's outside sobbing. I'm like, this is my life. This is what I have to deal with. And while that's not untrue, she's just not helping. She's all about Kyle. It's not about-- And I said this last week talking about my own situation. This has made me realize in my own situation, it's not about me or my pain. It's about the person with the addiction. They're not thinking about me. They're thinking about themselves. And Kyle had no problem with Kim's addiction when she was living off of it in the fucking 80s or whatever. And Kim was out there making her money, doing whatever she was doing back then. Kyle had no problem going to all those Hollywood parties with Kim and getting crazy and doing whatever. But now, you know, cleaning up the mess years later, Kyle wants it to all be about her. And if your sister was such a drunk, awful mess that you just couldn't-- you were so ashamed and she was always doing this stuff, why do you drag her on TV and make it part of your contract that she has to be on the show where you won't be, bitch? I'm not buying it, Kyle. Like, Kyle just needs her there to be a victim. Well, maybe-- Here's a theory. I'm not saying I necessarily believe this, but maybe the theory is this. It looks like one of the dynamics is that like, Kim is always saying that Kyle is not there for her. So I feel like maybe one of the reasons why Kyle has this, has this contract where she won't do the show unless Kim is on it, is that it's like evidence-building. Like, see, I do care about you. You know, it's like she's trying to constantly get that moment from Kim where Kim says, "You know what? You do care about me. Like, you have been there for me." And so maybe this is the dynamic of their relationship is that Kyle isn't trying to get-- It's not so much that she's trying to like, profiteer off of Kim's illness, although she probably is. But maybe it's this thing that like, she's perpetually seeking that moment when Kim finally acknowledges the stuff that she does for her. And she thinks that by saying, "I won't do the show without Kim, she's making a sacrifice in some way." And Kim will acknowledge, "Oh, thanks for getting me on this show. Like, you did something for me." Like, maybe that's the mindset behind it. Do you know what that makes sense? Does that make sense? Yeah, I think she's doing it because Kim's a fucking mess and she needs a job and can't get one and Kyle's getting her a job. I think she's sick of giving Kim money and she's sick of having to take care of Kim. I think part of it is like, let's give Kim an opportunity to have another chance at life, which is good. But I think part of it's like, "I'm sick of taking care of Kim." And I mean, it's a lot of fucked up stuff that goes into a family where there's that kind of drama and addiction because that family didn't only have to deal with addiction. I mean, their mother was apparently a horror show. They were like having to work as children. They didn't have a normal life. But I do think that Kyle's just a drama queen that makes everything about herself. It's hard for me to see anything otherwise, the fall I see. I think it could be both, to be honest. I think it could be. It is all about herself. And it is also about trying to resolve this relationship that's been there since the beginning, where Kim has been the older sister earning money. And it's probably been held against Kyle that she doesn't contribute the way her sister does. And Kyle trying to probably perpetually prove that she contributes and that she helps out Kim and that as much as Kim helps her as a child. Now Kyle does whatever and it's probably nothing is ever good enough. And so she probably is self-involved and also totally fucked up in the head by this whole relationship. Yeah, it's probably everything. You know, Kim keeps talking about how Kim is only, Kim keeps talking about how Kyle is only supportive sometimes and blah, blah, blah. Well, listen, as anybody, which I'm sure all of us have one in our family know, you can't just be supportive of an addict. That's not how it works. You can't just sit there and comb their hair and feed them and treat them like babies and give them everything they want in life. And addict has to take care of themselves and get their own shit together. It's no one else's. You know, how many times has Kim ever called Kyle and said, how are things going, Kyle? How are you? How are your feelings? How are your children? What's going on in your life? You know, she doesn't. You know, every time you talk to Kim, it's whatever she's feeling in her horrible problems and her husband who's dying and her kids who are gone, it's all so hard to my life. She's one of those people who thinks of nobody but herself and her own fucking problems. You know, I wouldn't answer her fucking calls either. And I don't answer the calls of most of the addicts in my family either because it's a bunch of bullshit and they want something from me. They're calling for money or they want something, you know? And it's usually nothing good, especially if they're using at the time. So whatever, I have no, at this point, I have really no sympathy for Kim. She needs to get her own shit together. At the same time, she's made me laugh more than any other housewives probably ever. But she's had a real answer to this guy. But get it together. You know, one of our listeners, Michael Cook, who's an avid contributor to our Facebook page, he actually wrote a really interesting comment on our page. He says, Kim Richards wanted to make up some nonsense about Lisa Rinna's home life. Rinna should have brought up either Kim's dog or almost eating her niece or Kim's son sprinting naked through the streets of Calabas as in the midst of a mental breakdown. Either would have worked and probably shut Kim down fairly quickly. Well, I think that's a good point. And I think that what Kim was talking about was probably what Kyle already brought up last week in the limo when she said, "How long has Harry been sober?" I like that Kyle just brought it right up like that because it made Lisa talk about it in a sensible way without really throwing her husband under the bus. Like she made it sound very, it was in a way that he couldn't be shocked. Like someone like Kim can't just bring it up and make it this big shocking revelation because they've already talked about it. Well, Kim doesn't know that. So I'm sure it has something to do with that because I mean, looking at Harry, he doesn't look like the type with the penis that's still working well enough to go being a 20-year-old. So it's probably something along the lens of your husband's an addict and blah, blah, blah. Or maybe Kim is just like very confused by Mad Men. She's like, "Well, you know what I hear about your husband? He's working against Don Draper. We're really going to destroy that agency." So I got some dirt on your husband. I know that. Yeah, I just saw one of them and he tried to get Don killed. Yeah, so I mean, he tried to get... He tried to go. That's Peggy off the account. That's not right. Your husband like sweater masks. I'm telling everybody. Well, here's what I know about your husband. He's kind of... He has a time machine and came from the '60s. So he's hiding some of the government's after him. So I think he should keep it quiet. I'll tell you what I'm thinking about your husband. He has a couch in his office with no cushions. I love... I love Kim getting all hurt about Harry Hamlin from Mad Men. Yeah, I guess what I know. Times are a change. Okay. Your husband has to go away there. Okay. Hey, listen. Tell your husband it's not the '60s anymore. It's a '70s man! Hey, here's what I know. Okay? It's a thing called the Rolling Stones. Okay? It's called like Peace, Love, and Rock and Roll. And your husband doesn't know about it. So you have to go away. Okay? Hey, if you're going to San Francisco, there are some flowers in your hair. If I know about Harry Hamlin, he's living in the time when I was the biggest superstar. And he offered to do me on his cushionless couch. Hey, when I tried to leave Richmount, he was like, "You stay, you stay, I'll never forgive him." Gina posted this picture of Kim as a wreck on our Facebook page. Every week we put what you guys want to talk about today on the podcast. And it's a big fun thread. And this week, Gina posted this picture of Kim just looking just completely gone. And it says, "Three years sober, cough, cough." And that's just it, Ms. Richards. Sit down, you're drunk. Get it together. Believe it or not, this wasn't the only thing that happened this episode. That's the best part. This was the first 12 minutes. So there was, you know, and there was some stuff where they went bike riding. So basically, at least they're in it. And Kim Richards kind of buried the hatchet a little bit, just enough to be civil on the trip. And then, but Kim Richards did not apologize to Eileen or to Kyle. They went on a bike ride. They visited Yolanda's mom. So then they went up going to one of these, like, pot cafes. Hushish cafes, you know. And sorry, you were saying something? No, no, no, no, I'm not listening. So it was sort of funny because they were all suggesting that they were all going to smoke weed. And then no one did anything. They all kind of like shared like a little piece of like weed cake. So it seemed like it was going to be just like a stupid nothing scene, you know, of them all just eating stuff. Leave it to Brandy to cause drama, right? Because what happens is that like Kyle, Kyle's like being like, no, I'm not going to have it. I'm not going to have it. I'm a parent, whatever. So Brandy's like, Kyle was ridiculous, though. She was. Oh, wow. How do they do this? What's this called? The joint, the doobie? What did they do? They put it in here and then they roll it in the paper. Oh, that's crazy. I've maybe seen something like that or drug addicts. I know up, Kyle. I know it was it was really obvious. And by the way, let's hand it to Lisa Vanderpump for being the only one willing to sort of be like, okay, like she's a Vanderpump was amazing in this entire episode. Yeah, actually. In that whole scene, we ignored everything she said, but she was amazing. She's like, Kim, darling, that's enough. Just stop it. Telling enough. Oh, we also missed another great Lisa Vanderpump moment. At the very beginning, when they first get to Holland, everyone's like, are we going to go to the red light district? And Yolanda's like, look, I don't have a problem with prostitute who are just trying to feed their children. And Lisa goes, darling, you shouldn't have a dick in your mouth to put food in your children's. Yeah. I mean, come on. That's good. The queen. That's why she's the queen. But I love that she was-- I mean, she probably would have smoked a joint if everyone else said she probably just didn't want to be the only one not doing it because everyone was like concerned about like, you know, the image it would be. So I mean-- During drugs on TV, I mean, hello, who thought that was a good idea? I mean, it was legal, but I mean, either way. So Brandi says to Kyle, like, whatever, don't act like you don't eat this. The last time I smoked weed, you were there, which I believe, I actually believe that. And I'm obviously-- Yeah, Kyle, I didn't deny it. She was like, oh, Brandi, I have children. That's why I didn't want to mention it. Yeah, exactly. So then it becomes this whole thing. So then Brandi gets into this whole thing where she's like, I hear when people are being fake, you know, I get a kid doing all these things, and then they ask like, they don't smoke weed, blah, blah, blah, blah, like-- And I have children, too. And you guys are calling me a drunk slut on TV, and I have children, too. And that's hurting my children. And then, and, and, and, it's like, well, but you are a drunk slut on TV. You fuck some guy in the bathroom, you get drunk on TV. You lie about everybody on TV. Everything you're doing on TV is what they're commenting on. And on that, you know, that's what's making me nuts about Brandi. I'm actually siding with Kyle so much that it's making me really pissed off at Brandi. Because Kyle's right. You know, the stuff they talk about her doing is true stuff. The stuff that they're talking about, she's accusing Kyle of doing drugs or whatever. That's like some party where they're friends, and it's off camera, and it's, why are you doing that? Yeah, and it's, it's also like, for someone, for someone like Brandi, who her whole thing is that like, you know, when you accuse me of this, you know, like it imperils my position with my kids. You know, it's like, I'm a parent. You are getting in between like, do not fucking get in between with my kids, whatever. So what does she do? She does the exact same thing to Kyle. And I think what's annoying is that like, she should know better. Because as the recipient of these situations where she doesn't like people calling her a drunk, because, you know, she could get her, her kids could be taken away from her. She should know that like, it's not like, why do you do it now? Brandi's a hateful slag. But she is, she's vengeful. She's a hateful human being. She does nothing but, you know, bully everybody else, victimize everybody else, and then act like she's the victim once they say something back to her. And she's done with this show. Yeah. I mean, that bitch is gone. No one, she's trying to start this huge fight. She's screaming like a petulant child, and everyone else just ignores her and walks away from her. And then she's stuck walking behind the whole group pouting. You know, fuck off. You're out. You're off this fucking show. Yeah. I don't even know why I'm bothering talking about it. You want it? Yeah. Why is she so, why is she so frustrated that Kyle doesn't want to talk about smoking meat on camera? Like, like, it's annoying that Kyle. She's just trying to start a fight because she's had nothing to do the whole trip. Yeah. Because she, she made Kim do all her dirty work. Now Kim's not there. And Yolanda's not kissing her ass. And she has nothing to do. And she knows that if you don't do anything on a housewise, so you're out. So she's trying to start some fight with Kyle. And Kyle knows that if she gives Brandy a fight, that she's going to be keeping Brandy on the show. So Kyle's not going to give her a fight. I mean, these women are just done with Brandy. They're not even going to fight with her anymore. You know? They're just going to let her self-destruct and watch her fall back into oblivion. Yeah. Good for them. Bye, bitch. Is it, is it annoying that Kyle is acting like totally misinnocent, like she has no idea what pot is? Yeah. Hell, yes. That's so annoying. But like, why make a thing of it? Just like, move on, Brandy. Yeah. Just let it go. I mean, if you're going to fight with somebody, fight with them over something real. But Brandy refuses to interact with them in any kind of realistic way, you know? Yeah. So she doesn't have any relationships with any of them. So she can't do anything with them, except antagonize them. And it's just old and it's tired. I'm tired. I'm tired of talking about it. Bye, Brandy. Bye. Bye, bitch. Yeah. Well, next week, she stops Lisa Vanderpump. So that'll be interesting. I think it's just like a place laugh. I don't think it's real. I guess we'll see. Unfortunately. Yeah. Um, so what else? So that's pretty much how this ended, right? Yeah. That's, I think that's, I think we hit all the major parts of the episode. Okay. Let's move on and well done again, Lisa Rinna. Very well done. Well done. Welcome to a lifetime career on the Real Housewives. As long as this shit's on, they will never fire you. Exactly. Well done. Let's move on. Okay. So which show should we talk about next? What talk about Vanderpump rules or shots of sunset or Atlanta? I don't care. First, we have to say happy birthday, Paula June. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Paula June. You're alive and we're glad. Um, I don't care. Let's talk about shots because that'll be short for me. Okay. Still hate that show. I don't hate all the people on it. Hope they all died. They're disgusting human beings. Hate that they opened buying gold and bragging about how much money they have. Gold, gold, gold, gold, gold, gold. We're so rich. We're so rich. Ah, Persian. We're so rich in Persian. We're so rich in Persian. Fuck off. Get to sir. Get your fucking party bus to sir and go have fun. Assholes. What about all of you? Gross. Oh, you know what? Like the best for me was Reza talking about how he's going to decorate Gigi's apartment and then we go to Reza's apartment and it's just like the most hideous thing since Martin Lawrence Blard graced Bravo. It looked like a Lebanese estate cell and I've been to many. It was like a chevron disaster. Everything was chevron. It was like it was basically like a whole bunch of road detour signs in different directions on the wall on the carpet. It was like everything chevron and everything crazy colors. And then the kitchen was this it was like so disastrous. I was like it looked small. So everything felt cramped. Oh, if he's so rich, why does he live in such a dump? I mean, that is a small roast apartment. We saw it last year when they moved in there. It's gross and small. No, it's a new place, I think. Oh, it's not the same place from last year remodel. I think he said he got a new place. That's what Persian, I like to put a chevron everywhere. A new place everywhere. Yeah, I got a new, I got a new couch. It's like purple and then I have like chevron on it and then polka dots and there's tribes. Like lots of patterns. I'm going to put a purple. Okay, I want the wealth covered in purple and gold and then I want a table covered with money and then I want a carpet that's made out of dollars and then I want a cat hair couch. Oh, that's so Persian. Homegirl's going to be like, this is like the most Persian apartment I've ever been in. And it was so Persian. It was awful. And then on top of that, oh, you know what really bothered me was when he was like making Christal mimosas. I was like, you idiot. Why even drink Christal if you're going to like cover it up with orange juice? Like the whole point is like, you can use. Keep saying, Christal. Christal, Christal, Christal. And also so we can save money because he's not using as much Christal. Yeah, yeah, it's just with his. So I'm so rich. I'm going to buy a $35,000 Rolex, but live in a $500 a month apartment in East Hollywood. Bitch, please. I know. It was just, it's so, so awful. I mean, the whole thing with the mimosas that you can put Andre in there and then just cover it up with orange juice and you're fine. Yeah, he's gross. Yeah, still gross. Very gross. And I think MJ looking good, I think has a boyfriend. Yeah. Big Harry Jewish guy. That should be interesting. MJ above is interesting. MJ above, yeah. Like watching, the thing that came to mind while I was watching their romantic scene was that Gary Shandling bit where he's talking about, I mean, this is years ago. But on the Gary Shandling show, he's like, hey, I was in the mall recently. And you know, I haven't been to a mall in forever, but I have to say ugly people in the mall. Please stop kissing. No one wants to see ugly people kissing in the mall. Can I just go to the BB, whatever, without seeing ugly people kissing in the mall? Thanks. That's what made me think of that. I was like, nobody needs to see your ugly asses kissing in that park. Let people enjoy their pick mix. Yes. Hell, yes. I agree. That was definitely, you know, on the one hand, I want to say good for them. They're happy. They're in love. The other hand, I won't be like, hmm, let's cover that up. Yeah, exactly. Stay in love in your house. Yeah. So let's see, I did appreciate us as mother quoting boys to men or boys to the men, when she's like, you know, it's so hard to say goodbye to the other days, whoever it was. You know, boys to them, and they say that. Yeah, her parents are moving in with her. What else? It was, I mean, they added this new girl. Yeah, this is basically the main part is that there's this new girl. Azifah, I think. It was a half, she was like a happy. Half, half Persian. We call ourselves, in my family, we call ourselves half breeds. But I guess I realized that the less they can have my sounds on a podcast. Sorry. But I'm a half breed. So I just assumed that it's okay to call her that, but probably not. So she's a happy. She's obnoxious, first of all. She's part Persian part. What's her other part? Indian. Indian and part asshole. Yeah. Use the total asshole. She is a total, total like. It's one of those LA girls. She's like, oh, we have to jump over the faun here. I don't jump, you guys. I don't jump. Yeah, see, the thing is that like Lily would have said the same thing. She'd been like, oh my god, I'm like a catch of her fire. But like for some reason, she would have like laughed it off and made like a funny comment in the interview and you'd be like, ah, don't jump over that fire, Lily. But with this girl, she's just kind of like obnoxious. She's obnoxious and she's trying way too hard out the gate. Yeah, because they were making comment about some of the snacks that they were eating. And then, I don't know, someone said, they were talking about Mike's dick. And then someone pointed to something and then she's like, well, do you have like a micro penis or something like that? Which is pretty like not cool, like not cool joke, bro. Like if someone said to her like, oh, do you not have like a chest or is like your clip like gigantic or something like that, she would have been pissed off, right? But I mean, I guess Mike was just drunk. I think Mike is an asshole. Mike has been ignoring them all for a couple of months anyway. So he's obviously got some ish that he hasn't brought up about them. Well, Mike is an asshole because when he's sober, he's like really sanctimonious. And he talks down to everyone and he takes this whole other than that attitude and says all the stuff that we should be a family. And then when he gets drunk, he's belligerent and is a total, total asshole to everyone involved. And I like that his girlfriend is so ghetto. Oh my god, Jessica. Like she's really, she's really going there this year. Like she got that ring and now she doesn't care. She's like, yeah. Yellen is screaming. She's like, get the fucking mic off me. Get it off. I mean, yeah. Well, what happened? Well, what happens? They all get into a party bus and they go to the Redberry Hotel where they order sliders, which cracked me up. Like, we'll have an order of sliders, please. And then so Mike is drunk and a Sifa's like Persian Keanu Reeves boyfriend shows up. And he still has like the events. Botox veins. Yeah, real Botox. So his, the events of his blazer are still sewn together. And so Mike and Reza are like, look, look at that. Like, look to see that. And then Reza goes and like cuts it off, which is the whole thing was just very like passive rest of him, like childish, you know, and then basically Mike and this guy get into a fight over the events on his on his on his blazer. It was a stupidest fight of all time. Yeah, because he had an X on the back of his blazer. I don't even know what that means. When you buy a blazer, the events, there's like a little vent at the bottom, like these little flaps and they're sewn together and you're supposed to like cut. You're supposed to like cut the thread and so the events open up. And so the guy hadn't cut it. And so it was like, you know, like he thinks that's fashion, bro, he thinks that's fashion, bro. Yeah. And then they literally get into a fight over it. They start to like, and he's like, I see you laughing at me over there. You, you know, coming into a new group, you think I want people laughing at me. And he's like, bro, you think that's fashion? He's like, you think I think that's fashion? How stupid you think I am. He's like, bro, you're stupid. And then they start trying to hit each other. Yeah. And then Mike grabs this jacket and he's like, I'm taking this jacket home for a party favor. Yeah, it was, it was so stupid. But there was like, I hate this show. It's pointless. They don't, they're yelling at each other over nothing. Nothing fucking happens on this show. Res is still a rich fat guy who cares about money. MJ is still a, still a chick who only cares about having a man. Asa only cares about her victimhood as a refugee. Gigi is still some crazy slut who does nothing with her life. Like, why should I give a fuck? I don't give a fuck about these people. They make me crazy in the, in the actual Hollywood and they make me crazy on TV. I can't with them. We're going to have to get Matt field back on this show to guess to at least talk to you about this. I, I still love this show, but they are, they are idiots because they are acting kind of like the kids from sir, except they are older and richer and they shouldn't be acting like that at all. I do like the Shervin character though, he's cute. Unlock your imagination with Audible when you listen to audio content in your mind as free to paint the scenes and feel the emotions of a great story. Plus a great narrator can really take things to the next level. There's more to imagine when you listen. 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Oh yeah, I don't know, that show just makes me nuts. Okay, let's move on, yay! I'll try and maybe have a more positive attitude next week, but I actually came into it with a positive attitude this week and my face was just crinkled up the whole time. I was like, I cannot with this show. But thankfully, there's enough shows on Bravo that we might be able to skip this one. Until we're doing two episodes a day. Yeah, people. Yeah, which could be soon. So let's go to Vanderpump Rules. Yes, the season finale, the season finale. So it started off, it was the animal photo shoot darling. And we're gonna do something vintage, something retro. It's in this time for this photo shoot. I want to do something sexy and hip darling. Right, sexy hip new, all right, 50s. Yes, 50s. Listen, we're gonna call this, we're gonna call this sup, as in sexy unique photo shoot. All right, I want everything pink. All right, I want a pink car. I want a pink house. I want pink everything. The future is now and it's the 50s. All right, Stasis gained a little weight. So she shows up for this photo shoot. I don't want her to feel out of place, you know. Women would figure back then. Yeah, bigger bottles. We ate things. No one knew about white bread in the 50s darling. All right, get Stasi a milkshake. Let's get this on the rope. Chef Penny, get your craft service table over here. Put down some tuna tartar and a California pizza with some barbecue chicken on it. You know, something's for Stasi to eat. Let's get them goat cheese balls. Oh, well, awkward photo shoot. I love that Tom is so dramatic. He's like, "Yeah, just one time I want to do a photo shoot, Kristin." Where it's not all about, you know, being mad at Jack's Kristin. Yeah. And then they're like, "Just once." To the year before and he's all mad at the photo shoot. His modeling career. Look at this in a row, Tom's upset. His modeling career has been derailed. But, well, what I like first of all is that when they're all getting to hair and makeup, she knows, like, talking about how she got her marriage certificate. And to talk about, like, weddings and Jack's is like, "Well, you know, sometimes that piece of paper ruins everything." And she's like, "Really?" Because I got that piece of paper on the mail. It was the coolest thing ever. Shut up, Sheena. Just shut up. Like, you're married. You get it. She's so funny. She's like, "Yeah, I'm married now. I got it. It's so cool. I got to pay my certificate." Man, they were, then they showed a clip of that wedding, and Sheena from behind could lord with her fucking back fat flaps coming out of that crop top. But that's supposed to be part of it. Girl, put that away. Crop top. You're running everything. This wedding is fucked. And then they cut to Tom's hand of all, like, getting his hair and makeup done. And he's like, "You see how this is the farthest point out of my head? I don't want to accentuate that." 'Cause then... 'Cause the hell... 'Cause Kristin's fault, 'cause dad. Don't accentuate the farthest parts out of my head. Don't... Sheena, as Sheena does, opens by going to her bestie, Ariana. I think, "Well, thanks. You're my hard pressure." Jax, this is the official statement from Jax. "I'm Tom for sure, have sex with that girl. For sure." Okay, Ariana's gonna cry. She's like, "I don't believe it, because, you know, I was talking in the whole time. How could he have been having sex?" Yeah, we didn't talk him the whole time. Yeah, but we were texting. "Well, is that FaceTime?" No, 'cause FaceTime didn't work in the room, which does sound fishy. Yeah. And she's like, "Well, that's fishy." [LAUGHTER] Like, "I do really believe it." "I don't believe it." She's like, "Yeah, I really believe it." "I don't know, right? We hit off again." Like, "Thank you." That whole scene was like, "Thank you, just shut up." I know, who's scared? This is nothing new. Jax has been saying this week after week. Why is it now something new that Jax has said this? I know, I know. So then they all get dressed up. That's my shock. Meanwhile, Jax... I mean, there's been a lot of nesting going on by everyone. You know, Stasi isn't the only one who's getting weight. Like, Jax. Jax is looking mad puffy. If I may say mad puffy at this question. In Jax-ing, he's also, every time Jax walked into the scene, he was wiping shit off of his nose. I mean, come on, keep it subtle, Jax. We know you're doing crystal or something, but, kind of, let's try and keep it a little subtle there, buddy. He's like, "I don't hear anything." He's definitely not doing jokes. He's been talking about, like, jerking, shaking, twitching. Come on, Jax. I don't think he's doing coke because he should be a lot skinnier if you're doing that much coke. So then they all do this photoshoot. And I love that James is like, "People may think I'm just a busboy with mad DJ skills, but no, I do a lot more than that." I'm like, "Well, I don't think anyone thinks that you're a busboy with mad DJ skills. I think everyone just thinks you're a busboy." I think that's, I think that's just where it ends there. I think that's where the assumption ends right there. Yes, I'm out of bread. Yeah. And then, and then I loved how at the end, they're like, "Lisa, get in the photo, get in the photo." She's like, "Okay, I'll do one photo." I'm like, "Lisa, you're in full hair and makeup and you're dressed in a 50s theme. Don't act like you did not have the plan to get in the photoshoot all along." I love you, Lisa, but don't act like that. That was funny. Yeah. So then they finally confront Jax. And he's like, "I didn't say that. What? I didn't do anything. I never said anything and that's a lie." Yeah. He's like, "I never said anything. I love what he does that every season. He lies full on, on camera." And then the next day, he's like, "Huh? I never said that. What? No, I never said that at all. Huh? What?" Yeah. Yeah. And I guess we'll get to the end part later, but... Yeah. So then... So what else happened? So then the big... So they come to serve for the after party. They'd be more excited with Chuck E. Cheese and Sir. Can they go somewhere else? No, it was the Sir 10th anniversary party, which is why they went. Oh, oh, oh, right, right. So I love so Stassi shows up. She's like, "Fine, I'll go." Even I'm so over it. I'm gonna go. And then I'd love... I'll go for some goat cheese balls. Yeah. So she goes, she shows up. She gets like a drink. She like stares at Katie from across the room, and then she does like a shot with... with Kristina and... That's dad. And like others. And then so she and Katie like don't talk. And then so of course Kristina comes up and she's like... They're of course shooting these nasty looks at Katie's face. And Kristina's like, "If she had any sort of respect for your friendship, she would have stood up, walked over, and said, "How are you?" Like, shut up. You're just not a girl. That is so awful. And she really doesn't think very far ahead. I mean, she's really on the wrong team here. What do you think is gonna happen next year with you, dumbass? No one's gonna talk to you. Yeah. It was like, why does Katie have to come over and say hi to Stassi? How about Stassi goes high and says hi to Katie? Which is actually what ultimately happened. Well, yeah, because she had to do something. She can't be on camera because nobody's talking to her, making an effort towards her. They're like, bye, bitch. That whole scene where they were like, bye, Stassi. Bye, Stassi's birthday. Bye, Stassi's controlling ass. Bye, Stassi. That was the best montage ever of every single cast member being like, bye, bitch. I think it's pretty obvious that Stassi is not coming back next year. I mean, it's like the fact that they're even building her appearance on the reunion is a special guest appearance. It's like, well, she's a cast member. She shouldn't be a surprise that she's showing up. So she's clearly gone, which is fun. Bye, you were awful this season and no one liked you. Yeah, she's awful. She's awful every season. But we liked her before, because at least she was fun. This time she's just, she's, she takes herself. She thinks she's so famous. I like when they were like, bye, Stassi. And you're stupid statement necklaces. Yeah, I know. Costana, but yeah, I mean, and I like that when she tried, she pulled over Katie and was like, can we talk? And then Katie's like, still was like, no, you are like, it's not all about you, Stassi. You like, get out of here. It was good. Stassi was just very pathetic this season. And she's gonna like probably tweet a bunch of things being like, whatever. I don't care about the show. I'm so much happier now, but she's sad. She's sad. She felt she's dumped by her boyfriend in like five minutes. How is he still with her? How is anybody with her? And how does anybody with a real job and a real career handle this reality TV bullshit? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. But I think that's the last we're going to see if Stassi until the reunions. And then and then she's gone. No more. Yep. I, so then, sorry, I just burped. So then let's see what happens. So then there was a confrontation outside where Jax and the Toms like sat outside in like the drinking area and and they were like, we don't understand why you just keep on talking about us and trying to sabotage our relationships. But at this point, I have to say both Toms, it's like that fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Like they don't seem to understand the shame on me part because they keep welcoming Jax into their life as as for my theory is that these guys go out of town together and they all fuck people the whole weekend. And the rule is they're just not supposed to tell on each other. But Jax gets caught. You know, I mean, Jax basically said as much during one episode. He's like, you guys do the same shit I do, but I'm the one who looks like an idiot on TV. And you guys look like Saints. And I'm sick of it. It's time for you guys to get caught for what you did. I mean, he's basically said that in an episode. And I believe that. I think they go out of town. They all do it together. But then they don't want to admit to it when it comes time to it. Because why should you? They're not caught. They shouldn't have to admit to it. But, you know, Jax is not is sick of being the only one that looks like a loser. But he's still the only one who looks like a loser. Because no one else called him out. His friends didn't do any of that stuff to him. Right, which they should have. Well, I like to also have like when they're like, they're just talking to Jax. All of a sudden, Kristin comes wafting out. And she's like, seriously? Hi, boys, seriously. She's like, seriously, hi, seriously? I just talked to Lisa Vanderpump inside. Like seriously, I had to quit in order to move on with my life. And how are you, Lisa Vanderpump? When she sees Lisa, she's like... And Lisa's like, hello, darling, what have you learned? And she's like, well, I learned to not beat me and to not tell lies. And to not try and ruin lives. And to not try and ruin people's relationships. And to not try and steal things from the restaurant. And to not get blowjobs to customers. I was like, jeez, okay, okay, okay. This isn't confession, calm down. Seriously, it was like a bad relationship. But I had to leave it in order to grow seriously. And how were you, Lisa Vanderpump? Good day to you, Lisa Vanderpump. I just don't like... Good day, sir. I still like Kristin being like in her best behavior. Top of the morning, too, yeah. And how is the family? Seriously, seriously? How's Panjora? Seriously? Seriously? How'd you get done in law? Seriously? Yeah, so she goes out to the break area and she's like, Hi, boy! Missed me, seriously, seriously. And Kristin was like, I mean, Tom's like, Hey, Kristin, it's a good thing you're out here. So we can ask you a question. Did Jack ever say that I seriously cheated with that chick? She's like, 100 million times, yeah. Yes! Absolutely. On my horse grave, seriously, seriously. Don't look at gift doors in the map. Like, Jack's like, no, no, I didn't. No, I'm not listening to this. This is bullshit. No, no, I didn't. No, I never said it. No, I didn't. No, it's like they have TVs. You idiot. It's on TV. Do you understand? It's on TV. Seriously? Look at Jack's or whatever, dude. Like, we can't like hang out with you, man. Because like, you're not in France or whatever. She's like, don't lie. Can't switch horse faces midstream, seriously, seriously. Two horses in your hand is worth more than one in this table. You can lead a horse face to a whore in Miami, but you can't teach the horse face how to drink from the whore. Seriously? Seriously? Not good with metaphors, Jack. Seriously. Say, oh, she didn't. Tom finally was like, Kristen, I don't even care. Just get out of my life. Leave me alone. I want nothing to do with you. And then she's like, fine, you win, Ariana. Then she walks up to Ariana and she says, I have said everything I could possibly say. Good luck to you. Seriously, seriously. There, there. And then that was pretty much it. I guess you dropped it. What do you know she didn't drop it? She didn't drop it. Actually, really nothing happened in the season finale, to be honest. No, but it was still pretty funny. I laughed a lot at it. The best part was at the end, they're all saying that means stuff to Stassi, like bye, bitch. And then Jack goes outside. No one invites him to the after party, because they're all going to some party after. No one invites Jacks. And he goes back to get his truck and it's been towed. He's like, my truck's been towed. And then they show his stupid, tiny penis truck being towed away. Yeah, actually one, that's it. It's like the saddest thing. One thing we didn't talk about was that there was this big, there was this big buildup. Like Stassi's like, the one thing I don't want to do at this party is I don't want to be in the same room as Jacks. That's the one thing I don't want. And then there was like a buildup of like, okay, Stassi's talking to Katie and Jacks has arrived. And what's going to happen? What's going to happen? And then Stassi kind of was like, oh my god, Jacks is here. I have to go. I have to go, there's a mistake. And she leaves, which was sort of cool. But like, there was no buildup of like, when are Jacks and Stassi going to reunite? Like the tension between them wasn't really there this season. Like season one, it was like the two of them were together. Season two, they had broken up, but there was this on and off thing. But this season, it was like, I kind of forgot that they were ever together in the first place. So I didn't really care if like, who cares if they're in the same room? You know, it felt like a strange. Yeah, he would have just been like, hey Stassi and she'd have been like, try. Yeah, it just seemed like a strange. He's not going to be chasing her out. Yeah, it felt, it felt like a very unnatural kind of like, stake that was. Oh, another thing we didn't talk about was poor Katie. This, you know, she wants to be proposed to on the season finale. Yeah. And she's basically told him, I want you, I want a serious commitment out of you. I want a serious commitment out of you. And then they show him with his bravo shrink, like, the thought of being married to somebody makes me want to kill myself. Okay. And he's like, but I don't want to tell her that. Why wouldn't the shrink say you need? Well, maybe she did say she needs. I mean, the girl deserves to know. So eventually he did. What did he ask for six months or something? Oh, yeah, six months. And she was like, if you don't propose to me, post proposed to me after six months, then move on. Just move on. Just move on now. If he needs six months to propose to you after this long. Move on. She has a right to know. You can't just tell your shrink that there's no way you're ever getting married, but never telling this girl. And then just getting her a dog or whatever to lead her on. I mean, that's awful. But frankly, she deserves what she gets. She knows he's like that. Yeah, absolutely. And how about Tom, who's saying to Ariana? He's like, you know, I've never met a girl like you. And I've been thinking about this. And Ariana, I want to ask you, will you move in with me? Oh, okay. And she's like, yes. A real mad thing. I'm like, I thought they already were moved in. But like, why was that like a climactic question in this episode? It's like, thanks, Kristina. Thanks, Kristina. It's like a de-forceless marriage, Kristina. De-forceless marriage. Yeah, so that was done. But I think the season finale will be amazing. I mean, the reunion. The reunion, yeah. You know that's just going to be amazing. Yeah, it'll be fantastic, actually. I can't wait to... I can't wait. Let's have your lander moderate it. You can't talk that way to people. You can't talk that way to people. Okay, a string on ring. Ring on string, string ring. That is no good. You can't do that to people. We invented string in Holland. And it was used to tie meat together. In Holland, we give rings and clogs. And then we put a tulip in there also. And you give it to people. You send it down a river. And then people pick it up and say, "Will you marry me?" And then you do. In Holland, we spin a piece of chocolate-covered cracker. And whoever it lands on, you have to marry. Oh, by the way, I love when Yolanda saw the guy she used to date. Oh, yeah. And she's like, "I don't remember you. Did we kiss?" And he's like, "Oh, yes." And she's like, "Oh, no. Don't remember poor people." Sorry. She's like, "Do you own justice windmill, or do you own this entire acre?" No, that's not... Do you sell t-shirts also on my property? No, okay. No, I don't know you. I'm sorry. Oh, Lord. Okay, so Vanderpoop drills, that's all. Yeah, let's go on to... So what else do we have over here? Atlanta! Atlanta! Oh, Atlanta. Oh, fadra. Yeah. So why don't we... Well, why don't we talk about... Can we talk about candy and tod first? Um, yes. Si. No. Candy is the nicest person stuck in the worst relationships I've ever seen. Yeah. Yeah. And so our lovely friend Angie, who was shot last week or two weeks ago, Angie, you know, Angie Thomas. Yeah. She, she texted me and she goes, all she says is this, the bonnet excuse to get out of sex. Like, it is ridiculous. It is ridiculous the top would be like, "Oh, sorry, candy. I can't have sex with you, because you got a bonnet on." Just ask her to take it off. Yeah. She has to put up a house sexy, do you think that is, babe? She has to put up with your... Well, the bonnet wasn't a problem until now. Yeah. She's like, "See?" Now, right. Everyone has a bonnet also, and I don't see her complaining about us, huh? But, um... Whatever, candy has to put up with your stupid waves, you know? And I don't mean that waves are stupid. I mean that his waves look stupid. His waves are like borderline Angie flapper waves. Oh my gosh. Um... Todd's awful. Do you think he's cheating? That's the rumor that he saw fucking everybody in LA. I don't think he's cheating, but I think he is now being complacent, and he shouldn't be, because he got candy burrs. Yep. And she's got to preen up, and I don't know how much he's making from Hollywood divas or whatever, but I doubt it's as much money as she's gotten in the bank, so he needs to back down a little bit. He needs to back down a lot. Yeah. He's not cool. He's trying to, like, suddenly be the man in the relationship, when that was never the case. Sorry. Candy's always been in the man in the relationship. Just deal with it. Get over it. Right. So, let's see. Um, I don't think Claudia did much this episode, right? Claudia did nothing, actually. She just showed up at that. Did her part at the end, which we'll get to. Um, uh, mama, they, uh, let's see. Cynthia did something towards the end. Nini does nothing, right? All she does is brag about that. She's in Cinderella. I'm in Broadway, girl. I'm studying my lines. In five lines at the Wicked Step mother. She's like, "You better pick that rice up out the ashes, bitch. You ain't going nowhere." Okay, there you get done. Yeah. Again. I was like, "Don't forget Nini. You're not actually Cinderella." So, um, uh, let's see. So, Phaedra. So, Phaedra's Apollo's in jail. Phaedra brought in an apostle to, uh, to cleanse the house. Fix it, Jesus. She's like, "Okay, look. Just please say fix it, Jesus, a few times in here." Yeah. They're like, "Can you please cleanse the garage?" "Could you please cleanse this drill?" All I wanted to do was fix that doorknob. And I cannot do it with this dirty drill. "Can you please cleanse this kitchen island? Thank you." There are demons in silence. She's like, "I do not appreciate Apollo telling the children about him going to prison. I don't know how to deal with that. These children are innocent." And then, the next second, she's like, "We are cleaning every trace of your father out of his house." That's exactly what I was thinking. Like, talk about trauma, like comparing your father to, like, a demon that must be exorcised. It's gorgeous. And their kids are so cute. Oh, I got her. They are so cute. So smart and so bright. So, anyway, uh, why can't I remember really any of the scenes that happened on this episode? Um, let me see. I'm looking at the recap, which is hilarious. I remember where it winds up. It ultimately winds up where Candy decides to invite everyone to Fogo to chow, right? Well, first off, Candy comes over to see Phaedra. Yeah. And it's made clear they act. Oh, yeah, they're trying to not pay any kind of attention to Phaedra during the whole Apollo drama. This is the new thing. They're trying to drive a wedge between these two, which I feel like is so craving. These are like two friends. And, like, between the producers and the other women, they are more than happy to decide to tear these two apart. But that is pretty cold when your husband's going to jail and all this shit's going down. And you're reading about it in TMZ every day. And Candy never even calls her. And she's like, well, I've been busy too. What? Doing what? Like supporting your midget husband and fucking wondering why you're playclothes. You don't sound busy to me, bit. You better get over there and be nice to your friend. You can at least text her. Yeah. I missed her. That's not cool. It's not cool. It's not cool. They're just show friends, you know. They're just like teamed up on the show, I think. Well, and well, Phaedra says that Nini calls her every day to check in on her. Well, they're-- Yeah, Nini's calling in every day so she can say she can. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what it's going to say. She's just like getting-- She's team building. She's getting an ally. So, oh, so one thing that happens, there's all this talk about. So, Paolo has produced these texts, alleged texts from Phaedra to an African prince, Mr. Chocolate. And so, was it this episode that Kenya sees it for the first time? And Kenya turns it into a sob story for herself. Because she's like, I thought-- Everyone says that she was the one who always called me a whore. But she is the whore. She-- For all this whore-- Everyone's calling everyone a whore. But she is the biggest whore of all. She's crying. You don't get to call me a whore. You don't get to call me a whore. It's like, whore. I heard everybody in America at that point, the elder TV, whore. Yeah. I sure as hell did. Well, put this-- Don't mean not to call you a whore, whore. Yeah, be sure-- Kenya, be sure to doggear this for your pilot about the housewives, which will be really good. Forshaming. So anyway, they all wind up at Fogo de Chao. And so they're all actually having a pretty friendly dinner. And then Cynthia tries to stir the pie. And it's like-- Oh, she's bad. It is the worst, most awkward pot stirring. It was so bad that everyone at the table made fun of her interviews. Cynthia is so bad at this. And can we just go back one second to the scene with Cynthia and Peter? Oh, God. Where Cynthia's like, babe, you know, everybody knows about this text now. And blah, blah, blah. And he's like, look, babe, this isn't between-- this isn't about us, babe. This is about them, babe. It's their business. I'm like, you're the one who brought it up on national TV, dick, and read the texts that he gave you on national. I mean, come on now. I know. I know. Isn't this my general business, babe? Yeah, right. It's a standard. So anyway, so they have that dinner. And then Cynthia, so bad at her job, still tries to bring it up. And instead of just saying, hey, we've all been talking behind your back about these texts that Apollo showed my husband. So what's up? She's like, well, you know, I think it's really important that we all sit down together at a restaurant. And first, we wait for the water to be filled. And then someone brings us bread. And then we look over the menus. And then it's important that we order a glass of wine or something. And then it's super important. And then we ask about the specials. And then, you know, I was thinking, like, something that's super important for us to talk about is like, you know, when you get the bill, like, how do you split it? Do you ask the waiter to do it? Or do you do it? Also, Phaedra, you're cheating with a black guy named chocolate. I'm like, what? Just say it. No. It was so awkward and so awful. I mean, Phaedra had a right to be pissed off right then and there. I mean, yeah, I agree. And then I love how Kenya just couldn't let Cynthia do it anymore. And she was like, oh, yeah, you're sleeping with some African man named chocolate. And Phaedra's like, well, this seems to be like a running theme with this group, an African man, man, or whatever, you know. And then Phaedra went after her with a pocketbook. Yeah. Well, actually, though, it was funny that, like, I think it was Phaedra who made the point that was like, Apollo proved that he could fake text messages before. Like, why is it that when Apollo shows text messages between you as in Kenya, between you and him, that those are fake? And yet now he shows it with me and, like, Mr. Chocolate and those have to be taken on face value. That's true. I forgot that those were faked messages. Yeah, Apollo knows how to do that before. All you have to do is find an accomplice or someone or anyone, text them, and then just write it in your contacts as Phaedra, you know. And then it looks like it's a text from Phaedra. Like, it's like the easiest thing to do. Yeah. Oh, man. Well, that was pretty good. Do you think-- I mean-- Well, Kenya stood up. Well, Kenya stood up and it was about to, like, smack Kenya. I'm not kidding. I mean, Phaedra's about to smack. And she got up and Shoma's went-- Lisa Rinna on her. She got her pocketbook. She almost lost her temperature, ran out of there. It was great. And then Kenya was like, yeah, you do. It's just like Portia did last year and got her a thrown in jail. Which is just what you want. Yeah, exactly. I'm surprised Kenya wasn't like, I got glass in my hair. She's like, I got knockoff purse lint in my hair. It hurts. Knockoff purse lint. Does that mean the lint is from a knockoff purse? Or the lint is a knockoff in and of itself? No, the lint is from the knockoff purse. No, it's knockoff lint from the knockoff purse. Like, this isn't lint from that knockoff purse. This is knockoff lint from that knockoff purse. The fact that Phaedra does her confessionals in this episode in that dress, it's like-- Oh, yeah. I don't know where this-- But wedding dress with diamonds and chandeliers shit hanging off of it. Oh my god, I love that. And then there were like, notice how Candy was slow to walk up and get behind Phaedra. I like to-- they were trying so hard. They're like, did you notice that Candy didn't even say anything to you? Candy's back there. Candy's doing this. And I was like, you guys are so awful. Yeah, they really-- they're all disgusting. What else is Candy's-- you know Candy loves her food. She wasn't going to leave that-- she's like, I am not leaving until I turn this thing red. This thing-- Yeah, and Puss is free, because you know Bravo is paying for it. She's not going to leave her free-ass chicken sandwich today, is that what she was eating? Yeah, and by the way, that maybe you want to go to Fogo de Chao so badly. And yesterday I was in traffic right next to it. And I was watching it through the window. There's a new Fogo de Chao downtown. And I was watching the waiter slice off the meat from the skewer. I was like, I felt like, please, how could I have some more? What is that place? I've never been there. It's a Brazilian steakhouse where you pay, like, I think it's like a $50 price fixed, pre-fixed, whatever. There's one on Las Yannico. There's one in downtown now. And it's like all you can eat meat. And then a huge salad bar with all those Brazilian cheese balls. Oh, I love it. I've never been to Fogo de Chao, but I've been to like a knockoff in Long Beach. That was average, but Fogo de Chao is actually supposed to be really good. I just love that they always have these fights and these giant, like these upscale national chains. Like it's always at like Rosa, Mexico, or Fogo de Chao, or I don't know, like the whatever grill, capital grill. They just go to upscale, fast casual. Yeah, little chainy chains. Yeah. I-- what else happened in this episode? I can't remember. Anything that happens on Sunday? I have to say that, to me, Atlanta is the most entertaining. I mean, it's the one I watch and I just laugh, and I love it. And even if we weren't doing this, it's probably the one I would never miss. But I never really have that much to talk about. Well, I don't know why. Because I love the drama's like the same thing. I just think they're all so funny. Like even the ones I hate, like Nini, I hate half the time that she's on the screen, but I still love watching her. Like, I would still be actually excited if I met Nini, you know? Yeah, I feel like-- well, we had a lot to say a few weeks ago when Claudia took down Nini. That was a really fun episode. That was a really great one. And then it's always sort of like the same shit every single week. And it's like entertaining. But like, what else can you say on it, which is kind of funny because Vanderpump Rules is the same thing every week, but yeah, we find ways to just like-- just like exhaust it. Like, just-- I mean, we just basically say seriously, seriously. Well, it might just be because we leave Atlanta to last and we're so tired by the time we get to it. But I really just don't have anything to say about it. I know, I don't fucking love it. Yeah, yeah. I love everybody on it. Even stupid Cynthia. I love on this stupid show. Cynthia really is so bad this week. She's lame. I mean, really seriously. Seriously, Cynthia is like, I think we have all-- we all have things we have to say, but we don't want to say them and we should say them as proper women. But put them out there and we don't have to put them out there. We put it on the table, but under the table. And when I turn this green, you all say what the problem is. When I turn it red, you stop. And then you get some meat, but you only meet with the green, but don't say it with the red. It's so stupid. What are all these women doing teaming up with Kenya? I mean, what are they thinking? Teaming up with Kenya. Because the enemy-- I think that she's not going to turn right around and screw it all up. Because the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And Kenya is the enemy of me. She's going to-- I mean, the casting is great this year. Yeah, I love how there's basically two factions, two groups. I love what happens. Yeah, and you really have to hand it to Kenya, but also Claudia for completely bringing Mimi down. Mimi's done. Yeah, I mean, Mimi has really nothing left to do. Because she's been putting her place. And nobody's listening to her anymore. She has-- her power has been completely sapped. And I like when Kenya said, have you noticed that everybody comes against me, goes down in flames? Which is kind of true if you look at the show. But I think Claudia gave her a lot of help. She tried to bring Mimi down and couldn't. But with Claudia's help, she brought the bitch down. She's down now. Yeah, I want Claudia. I want Claudia and Mimi to fight again. I don't know if they will or not, but I hope that-- Yeah, I think Claudia, like, maybe felt stupid after the first time and is now trying to be nicer, but hopefully not. There's always the reunion whenever that is. Oh my god. Well, how long is this show? It's on episode 16 or 17. Yeah. Oh my god, what episode is Beverly Hills on? Do you know? I don't know, but they-- Give me back my life. I think they tape their reunions. So I think it's coming up soon, because Beverly Hills and-- Well, they taped it early because you'll wanted to have to go get medical treatment for limes. Yeah. Well, no, Vanderpump Rules and Beverly Hills premiered, I think, the same week or close the same week. So it's going to be wrapping up pretty soon. Well, no, because they have more than Vanderpump Rules. They're only on episode 16. They just did episode 16. They usually go to 23 or so. Yeah, I mean, they're at the vacation. So one's the vacation happens. Two months left. No, vacation usually means it's like three or four episodes after the vacation. And then three reunions. Yeah. So we've got two months left of that darling. Darling. What's up, Benny? Darling. Well, I'm sure there'll be another Atlanta vacation coming up soon, and-- And then we have the Melbourne wives starting tomorrow, or tonight, depending on when you're listening to this. Well, yesterday, depending on when and where. Yeah, that's what I mean. You never know, it could be tonight, tomorrow, yesterday. Maybe it was a year ago, when you're listening to this. Yeah. I don't know. Going back to the future. I don't mind it, Judge, your timeline. Yeah. All right, well, I think that's it for this. I think we've done a lot of talking today. We've been talking for-- That is a lot of talking. I'm exhausted. I was exhausted after the gay shit on the bonus episode. I know. Between the bonus episode and all this stuff, like, I am talking about-- We went all gay politics on the gay episode. I mean, on the bonus episode. The bonus episode. I heard it. We were real-- you know, we were really serious a lot, because we were getting real serious about sobriety, too. We were like, she is an addict, and she is sick of accountability. And that's, I was like, she said that, that, that, that. Well, I've just had really serious issues in my life this week with both gayness and addiction. So I'm, like, super sensitive with all that shit. So sorry if I want a little off the rails there, everybody. It's all right. The truth is-- It's my outlet, all right. I don't know people in real life. You're it. You're at people. The truth is-- You can hear all of it. The truth is there's only one pill that Kim Richards needs to take. It's a chill pill, OK? Take a chill pill, Kim. Take a pill to chill, Kim. Oh, and please, you know, chill pill. Go watch our friend, Amy Phillips, new video of Lisa Rana. Oh, she got that voice down. She is so good, so go to Bravo, go to the Bravo site, and watch her ass do Lisa Rana. Really good. Hashtag star. Well, it's not-- it's not literally her ass. But that would be funny if it was like Ace Ventura style. [LAUGHTER] And happy birthday, Paula. What else do we have to say? We're doing right. Yeah, so if you want to hear this infamous bonus episode of the Order Talk about gay politics, just go to patreon.com/watchwhatcrapins. Or on our Facebook page, there'll be a link up to it. There'll be a link to the Patreon link, OK? Huh? Yeah, yeah. So the way it works is that we put the link to the private episode on Patreon. So if you go to our Facebook page, you can find the link to Patreon, which will then point you to the episode. It's real confusing, but it's actually quite easy. 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