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Visit audible.com/crapins or text crapins to 500-500. That's audible.com/crapins or text crapins to 500-500. (upbeat music) ♪ Watch what you're crappin' ♪ ♪ Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappins ♪ ♪ Crapins ♪ ♪ Crapins ♪ ♪ Crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap ♪ ♪ Crapins ♪ ♪ Watch what happens when you're crappin' ♪ ♪ Watch what you're crappin' ♪ ♪ Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappins ♪ ♪ Who cares what happens when you're crappin' ♪ ♪ Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappins ♪ ♪ Crapins ♪ - Hey everyone, welcome to Watch what Crapins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to watch. I'm Ben Mandelker from bsideblog.com and joining me as always is the wonderful and spooky Ronnie Karam from Trash Talk TV.com. ♪ Ooh, Ben ♪ - Of course we are talking about the scariest thing in all of America, which is Bravo TV. There are a lot of things we have to talk about this week, in terms of Watch what Crapins. One of the big things is that we are doing a live show at the improv in Hollywood, actually the famous brick wall and everything, and that is going to be in January and we actually have the date, I believe it's gonna be. Of course I don't have the date here. - 25th. - Yes, January 25th. Tickets, I don't know when tickets are gonna go on sale, it's gonna be soon, but it's gonna be really cool. It's gonna be me and Ronnie and we're gonna try to get some other people and we're gonna basically record the podcast in front of a live studio audience. - Yeah, so come, I'm sure we'll go somewhere and get shit faced after everybody. - Yeah, it'll be really, really fun. - Have a little meet and greet, okay. - Yeah, we're gonna try to sell out the place. I'm really, really excited, and so I know some of you on our Facebook page, facebook.com/Watch what Crapins. Some of you in the past have mentioned that you'd be willing to travel to come see us do a live show, so we're giving you the heads up. We've given you, it's like a two or three month heads up, so now you can get your traveling plans in order. - Do it! - Yay, I'm actually really excited for that, 'cause we haven't done a live show for like, what, two years when we did that one at Improv Olympic, and that was so fun, I love that. That was a great time. - That was a really great time. We got to see Tammy. - Yeah, Tammy, that was, Tammy was great, 'cause Tammy was in the front row and she laughed at every single thing we did and said, which is like not, and that's, I love that, because it gives you, as like, when you're up there, it gives you like confidence, like, oh wait, I'm being funny, I will continue on this trajectory. (both laughing) You're like cough and she would laugh, I loved it. I loved it. Tammy, you're the greatest, and Tammy also lives right by us. I always see Tammy as like, checking in on Instagram, and I always feel like I'm bound to run into Tammy, and yet I never do. - Yeah, me neither. I keep looking for you at the Whole Foods Tams. - We will, we will see you soon, Tammy. By the way, speaking of our listeners, Derek Hazleton, it's his birthday this week. - Yeah, happy birthday, you trying to use Whispering Cut? - Yeah, he wanted us to call him that, everyone. We weren't being misogynistic. - We love you Derek, happy birthday. - We do, we do. Other things that are very exciting for us, we are, continue to be very happy and excited that people are, keep donating on Patreon, and we're super psyched, I think we're up to like, 557 per episode, and again, once we get to 1,000, we'll be on, we'll be doing two episodes a week. So that's super, super cool and exciting. We're over halfway, in just over like a month or so. - Yeah. - And remember that if you do donate, if you donate just like a dollar per episode, you get access to our bonus show, and we just recorded the bonus show and we talked about a lot of strange things, 'cause it's the Halloween episode, you know? So we talked about like, A-bashing, and... (laughing) - And Thomas Ronald, honey boo boo. - Honey boo boo and Thomas Ravenel. So, if you wanna hear-- - Divorce, incest, and gay bashing. - Yeah. - Doesn't that sound great? Just go to patreon.com/watchwithcrapins, sign up, yeah there's different levels for different things, one's a bonus episode, then there's like a Google Hangout, which we'll be doing November 13th, I believe Ben? Thursday the 13th. - Thursday the 13th. We did one earlier this month that it was actually so much fun, like not even saying that to get people to donate, we had a blast. - Yeah, and then Ringer is once a month, four or five Ringer's. So, come on there, it's just for some extras, these shows will always remain free, so don't worry about that. But if you just want extras, come on to patreon.com/watchwithcrapins. Now we have to get on with the show, this is too much plugging, do we have anything else? - I think that's it, that's all that we have to discuss. - Plug the hose, holes are plugged. - The holes are-- - Oh, if you want our social media, Twitter, and all that, just go to watchwithcrapins.com and there's links to all of that good stuff there. - Yeah, it's all good, fun. - Or iTunes to cheer all of that. So go over there, oh, and leave our reviews on iTunes. Okay, last plug, okay, so what do you want to talk about? So this was a weird week. - Yeah, well we-- - So do you want to talk about some gossip? - Yeah, let's talk about some gossip that we didn't get to on the bonus show. So, let's talk about, well it is Halloween, we're recording this, if you're listening to this like in three months from now, just get in your time machine, because Halloween is coming up for us in just a few days, and guess what, Jax from "Bender Pump Rules" is going to the Playboy Mansion. And everyone, everyone, if you were afraid of Ebola, let me tell you something. Nothing compares to Jax, or-- - Nothing compares to Luce Hola. - Someone, oh, snap. - Jax, Jax, you do not want to get, look, I don't know why they're inviting Jax. That place has been in so much trouble lately, like for two years in a row, didn't they have legionnaires of disease and they're fucking hot tub, and then you invite Jax, I mean, come on. - That's probably why Jax is going, he thinks being a legionnaire is like, get earning a special title. - He's like, finally, I'm a legionnaire. - He's going to put it on his resume. Order of a sweater line and an official legionnaire. - Oh my god. - Oh man, the CDC, let me tell you something, this is a real problem, because the CDC is so distracted with Ebola right now that they have no idea the sort of viral outbreak that's about to happen up at Curing Crossroad. It's going to be a disaster. I don't know, I don't know who's going to get it worse. Jax are the bunnies. - They're bunnies. - There's going to be a lot of-- - Or Jax, stop spreading it, okay? Stay home, you've had your fun. No more public showers, no more public hot tubs, just stay home, Jax. - He needs to be put into a permanent silkwood shower. Like someone kick my old street bat and put Jax in there. - Stay home and floss, because now every time I see him, I think he has bad breath, because when Tom found out that he slept with his girlfriend, his only response was Jax, but his breath is awful, which I will never forget. - You know it's got to be terrible breath, if that tops every other detriment. - That's like the first thing you think of. A long time ago, I read some blind item, and they were like, this actor has the worst breath and people can't even go around him. And then the answer was Ben Affleck. And so I still think of that whenever I see Ben Affleck, like gongirl, I was like, that's why she left, bad breath. - That's why she gongirl. - Yeah, she gongirl. - Like certain things like that you just never forget. (laughs) - Well it's true, it's like when someone has body odor, if you meet someone and you're playing out with them many, many, many times, then one time they have terrible body odor, you will forever be afraid to hang out with that person for fear that that body odor will be there. - Yeah, you'll be like, they have body odor. - It's tainted, it's tainted. - That's probably been me before. - No, you've never smelled that, Ronnie. - Well, one time my dad was like, you stink. - I said, I do? He said, yeah, you smell like B.O. And I had no idea, even when I sniffed it really deeply, and I was like, maybe I just can't smell my own it, and I wonder how long this has been hurting me and ruining my life. - That's some deep hardcore Lebanese body odor happening. - Yeah, so who knows? Maybe only Lebanese people can smell it. (laughs) - Smells like the Levant. - Yeah, everyone else thinks it's just donuts cooking. (laughs) - I thought I smelled some hummus. (laughs) - Or a jar of piss. - Oh, you've got some anise coming out of your pores, so let's get that figured out. - So the other piece of gossip is that Sydney, our friend Sydney posted on our page, Jacqueline is in some Twitter beef now, did you read about this? - Oh, what a shocker, Jacqueline's making trouble on Twitter. - She's such a passive aggressive hoe. I mean, for crying out loud, she goes on TV and she sobbs about X, Y, and Z, and then she goes on to Twitter and starts a beef with everyone. So what is her Twitter stuff? - I don't know, I was hoping that you would read it. I'm gonna look at it now. - Well, I've read a lot of her stuff. Hold on, I think there's something on the stupid hass wives here. We were talking about this earlier this week, but all this shit just like, well, first of all, I love that we, obviously, Jack's looks Chinese and I was making a Miss Swan picture of her, like her next to Miss Swan, or Miss Swan from Mad TV. - Yeah. - And then I clicked on to stupid housewives to get my gossip and she calls her Chinese Bubba Jacks, which I think is so fucking funny. So let me look, it's all Jacks right now. - Okay, so, she, I guess, so one, Dina Manzo, this is according to realityt.com. During the show, Dina Manzo is on Watch What Happens and Jacqueline started tweeting to Andy, which I love, this, again, passive aggressive tweeting at Andy Cohen, like during the show, she says, quote, "I asked my husband to reach out to Dina "when she went through the divorce, "so did I and I encouraged them to meet." She wouldn't, I don't know what that means, but either way, it's somehow caused a fight because then Dina started replying that that's not true, she didn't reach out to me, blah, blah, blah. And then they got into a Twitter war. - Yeah, I think we talked a little bit about this last week, right? 'Cause everyone's like-- - Dina, this happened two days ago. - Yeah, okay, all you really have to do is go on Twitter and look at Jack Loretta in it's, basically her just being an asshole all throughout it. And it's really funny reading her Twitter because her spelling is atrocious, her grammar is like, she doesn't, God bless her heart. She's just dumb as a brick. I'm looking her up now because now we're talking about this. - Well, Dina says, one of her tweets was, maybe if Jacqueline would get off Twitter and stay out of it, my brother and I can one day mend, done with this. She's referring to Jacqueline's husband, Chris, who is actually Dina's brother. And then, and then Jacqueline responded, he tried a few times and you wouldn't meet with him. Hashtag shame. And then Jacqueline goes, my husband are sitting here together, realizing how lucky we are to have each other and the great friends and family that we have. Hashtag real. And then Jacqueline goes, Chris had enough and gave up trying to have a relationship with Dina. She, she has heard him too much. She's got to make the move. He'll be here with me. - Yeah. - Hashtag real. - I know. - That's my favorite hashtag real. I'm looking at it right now. It's basically autism, black, autism, black, autism, black, autism, autism, black. And then, retweets of people going, you're the best mother on television. You're great. Could you retweet for my son's bingo night? Could you retweet because my grandma has palsy? Can you retweet because somebody I knew in the third grade was kidnapped? I mean, shut the fuck up people with your begging for retweets on Twitter. That's one of the most obnoxious Twitter trends. Everyone's like, please retweet. I lost my roller skates. But I love you and your great mom and you don't look Chinese. And so they retweet it. She wrote this one. I know you guys love that we are on a reality show and on Twitter and you can get a peek into our lives. You must find something relatable in all of us. Oh my God. People like jumping in bouncy houses, Jacqueline, okay? And they're not relatable. They're fucking ridiculous, okay? They're ridiculous and they're fun to jump all over. Literally, there is nothing relatable about Jacqueline. Nothing. Except that she's gonna be broke soon. Then it'll be Roman. Then we'll all be like, oh, she's broke. Yeah, weird. Yeah, exactly. Well, I'm excited to know how I'm now writing these listicles for Ranker. So my new one, which hasn't come out yet, but it should be coming up like today or tomorrow, is the list of the worst housewives entrepreneurs. And I put Jacqueline pretty high up there on the worst category for her endless chilling of black water. Because I still don't understand why anyone would wanna drink water that is pitch black. Well, we're about to find out in California 'cause that drought's taken all our drinking water. So soon we're gonna be like, ooh, rusty water, delicious. Can I have that with a little vodka? Oh, it sounds great. I know, oh, I'm gonna check in on speaking of which. Remember last week I was talking about the list of the best housewives of all time? So it's actually kind of funny. I think the real housewives of Melbourne would appreciate this. I think Andrea would be furious because Gina, oh, Gina. Gina has clearly mobilized her Twitter fans and now she is the reigning best housewife on Ranker. Love it. She has like 1100 votes saying, yes, she's the best. That's over Lisa Vanderpump. So she clearly has mobilized her Twitter army and I'm sure that Andrea and Jackie and Lydia are furious about it. Andrea's like, oh, I'm glad I quit that show that I don't need. So I don't have to buy all those clothes for it. Oh, Gina. Am I, Gina? What a terrible person. Gina, how awful telling your Twitter people to load the vote for you? How do you know? Oh, that's awful. Do you want to talk about no morals, Gina? But they don't quit, ah. Gina. You know what I call Gina? I call her a Twitter voter frauder. [LAUGHTER] So speaking of Twitter, another fun article that was posted on our page that's from stupid housewives again is this nasty tweets to Jim's ex-wife, the police report, the Marchesis, do not want you to read. And then she has a picture of Amber with her face all messed up that day that she was drunk in Boca smoking the cigarette when she's like, I'm smoking a cigarette. I'm smoking a cigarette. I'm smoking a cigarette. So Jim has an ex-wife or backup professional body builder who he divorced in 2004. Since that time, they've been in a custody battle over two children, fast forward to 2013, after Amber's been married for nine years to Jim. Rebecca started seeing nasty comments on our Twitter, which were dismissed by Rebecca as just the normal nasty tweets one expects to receive on Twitter. I do not expect to receive those on Twitter, personally. I really don't. Like, don't tweet me nasty shit. Thank you. However, the tweets became more insulting and more personal and more in numbers over a short span of time. So she bought the account, but learned that they were more insulting nasty tweets. So she filed a police report against her, OK? These are the tweets that are obviously Amber. It's so funny and horrible. I mean, funny because they're just like, of course, they're Amber, you know? Right. And her name is The Truth. That's awesome. They pray to be away from you. It's not you, they consider mom. I have never witnessed a more pathetic loser in my entire life. You are one fugly and sane bitch. Oh my god, your kids hate you and think you're the biggest loser. I concur. Some people deserve to get a real good beating. You are such a chicken shit. Weak, LOL, love watching a dwarf put on a fashion show. No matter how many lame hugs you try to give, everyone is still grossed out. One day, none of us will know your name. You'll leave no legacy behind. No one will ever remember you. They hate you. Is it hard to keep all your lives together? You kind of suck at it? Question mark. You just look crazy. Psycho says what? LOL, you can tell you where the ugly girl are. You're like, oh my god, this says what? I guess there are models for everything. You can be a model for dog food. Congrats. Usually, you're supposed to carry your bags, not wear them under your eyes. You are one big woofer who let the dogs out. You know what they say. A picture says a thousand words. Yeah, because that must have been embarrassing. It made me laugh. Ha, ha, ha, just stop it. I can't take it anymore. I'm tearing. I'm laughing so hard. Train wreck. Man, your life really sucks. And here's the final nail in the "I Hate Amber" coffin. Her final tweet is just saying. And you know how I feel about just saying. Everybody's stopped just saying. It's over. I have a theory. And it might sound far-fetched, but I really like it and just hear me out. I think that Amber was on a train. And when she was on the train, she ran into Andrea from Melbourne. And they made a deal. And Amber said, listen, I will go to Australia. And I'll write an anonymous editorial bashing Gina. If you go and send hate tweets to my husband's ex-wife. And that's what's happening. So I think that Andrea is behind those tweets. And I think Amber is behind the giant Gina bashing editorial that we read a few weeks ago. It's like an Alfred Hitchcock movie, except really fucking stupid. It's like "Strangers on a Train," except it's called "Idiot's on a Train," bad hair on a train. Yeah, total. So that's that. I thought that was really funny. Because people with their false accounts have the balls. Have the balls to say it to my base. Even though I totally have a fake Twitter account, that I totally bash people on the line. Can you trace the IP of a Twitter account, or is that also the only Twitter can do? I think only Twitter can do that. But you can buy-- I mean, not buy. You can use for free redirecting software, so no one knows your IP, you know that, right? That's a little advanced for Amber/ Andrea. I think so, too, unless she uses the pirate bait for cancer videos. I mean, if Jim Marchese was so bad at covering up his own fraud while he was whistleblowing his own fraud, then there's no way that he's thinking that they're thinking to redirect their tweets. They're the worst. All right, so what else-- do we have more gossip? That's it. That's all the gossip. So let's talk about-- Nope, closing the window on Sugar Bear. Sugar Bear. We talked to-- oh, that's-- Sugar Bear? She's-- she's-- it's Twitter. Sugar Bear from Honey Boo Boo? I know we just talked about it on the bonus episode. Yes, he was-- he was her-- I only know-- I only know Honey Boo Boo and Mama June, and then everyone else, like Sugar Bear, or like, I don't know, like, molasses, Paul, or something. I don't know-- I don't know who-- I don't know any of the nicknames after that. They're like, gum drop. Gun drop, Peterson. Gun drop. Kitchen tall cash-- trash bags. Kitchen tall. Susie Lickarish. Candy Corn Molly. Thought water. Thought water, Taffy Tiffany. Come in here, girl. Hey, Tracy Swedish fish. Tawny Taffy. Tick-tock-tawny in here. Gum drop, Lou Allen. Oh, God. You already said gum drop. Job breaker, Joanne. You get your ass in here right now. So I think that's what we have. Well, speaking of culinary delights, why don't we talk about Top Chef? Well, holy mother of Jesus. That-- I was not expecting that one. Why not? Top Chef never gets its-- never gets its moment to shine on our Dear Podcast. It always sort of gets stuck at the end after all the trash, and they're like, oh, wait. Here's one legitimate show that we actually genuinely love. And showcases-- it's like the best of Bravo. It's like there's not enough desperate women screaming at each other just to get attention. Well, this season, we actually have some assholes. We have some real assholes. And here, let me pull up the-- Well, I bet we're going to disagree. Oh, wait, I'm pulling up the Top Chef cast page cast from Bravo. Because I don't remember any of their names, because there's always like a million chefs. So give me a moment here. Ronnie, you can sing a song while I pull up their bios. Who made names when you could just grunt and say something that you remember about them? OK. All right, here we go. So I think the main asshole of the season, so far, is Aaron Grissom. Aaron-- Who's that, the short guy who wants smiles just to douche back, just to be douche back. He's the guy who got an agar in everything. Yeah, he's the guy who got into the fight with a blonde girl. So now Aaron, he actually-- he has a restaurant up in Nojo called Bow and Trust, which I've actually been to. I did not have any of the food. I only had a cocktail there. But he did something-- one thing that was very curious on the menu, they serve roasted cauliflower, and it's like a whole head of cauliflower. It's not like broken down. It's like the most bizarre thing ever. Ooh, my mom does that. Really? And actually, you know what she does? It's covered in cheese and stuff. See, there we go. His was not covered in cheese. It's amazing. And then it looks like a big, weird brain when it comes out. And you just cut into it like a steak. It's bizarre, but delicious. You know, I was intrigued by it. But his looks-- Cauliflower? No, it had stuff on it. It had like spices on it and everything. I don't know, for some reason, when I saw it on the menu, I thought, you know, that's a really cool idea. I did think that. But when I saw the presentation, I was like, I'm not sure. But you know, though, I didn't eat it, so I can't say for sure. But the point is this. I don't know why I'm wearing this tangent bat bow in dress. This asshole is very close to us. We have to be careful. Not really. He's out for the hill. How often are we even there? I mean, what are we going to go to Ikea or something and run into him? I know, that's true. I'm not afraid of him, that little fucker. He is a jerk, though. Also, he's a little older than me. So we could totally take him. He's going to be the asshole this season. And you know what I don't like about him? He is this sort of asshole who he acts like an asshole, and he forces people to defend themselves. Because he comes at you with these things like, well, I'm going to do it this way, or like, well, are you afraid of this, or you're doing this, or whatever? He sort of comes at you in a passive-aggressive little jabs. And then he forces you to defend yourself. So in this case, it was the blonde girl, whatever her name was, Carrie Ann. You're forced into a defensive position. And then he's the one who goes, whoa, whoa, whoa. Why are you getting all nasty? She's such a bitch. He forces the other person to become an asshole to deal with his ass-holness. And then he's like, whoa. That's like a total housewives move, too. That's what I don't like about him. He's a little bitch, OK? He's like a gym. He uses housewives tactics against the other cast members. He even called the lady-- he's like, what a bitch. You know what? Strike guys, don't do that. OK, that's really gross. Like, who raised you? I don't like that guy. And this is like total Melbourne behavior. Like, they all attack one person. And then when the person finally gets mad and calls them a comp, they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what? Gee, that's totally what just happened here. Gina, I can't believe you put raw onion into your corn salsa. Gina, I can't believe you're dating it. God, maybe he's married. He's a married? I don't know. Maybe he's married. I would love it if Andrew and Lydia were judges on Top Chef. Oh, Gina, how awful. What a terrible and moose-boosh. The color of this sauce reminds me of the time Gina used my bathroom and ruined my $40,000 print towels. Oh, Gina. Oh, Gina, this isn't a mom-a-law, Gina. It's one all over the plate. How awful. This chicken is just-- this chicken is as dry as Gina's hair. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What an awful thing to cook, Gina. You know what I call this food? Overcooked. Oh. [LAUGHTER] Oh, my god. I love applying Melbourne, thing to average, everything. Melbourne voices. And we're going to do this for like a few months. This is going to be like our new-- well, you know, beater. It's like-- Oh, you know, beater. Long after the show is gone, we're going to be doing it. OK. So-- So he's an asshole. And he's, by the way, he's the same one that Padma last week. We mentioned this. He's the same one with that Padma was like, you need to not only clean up your station, but your act or whatever. Yeah, she's like, you need to clean up your act and your station. And then she walked away, and they showed her going, wow, that is a messy mess. A messy, messy mess mess. Whoa, I'm glad. I'm glad she shaded him, because he's a real asshole. He is a real asshole. People stop making-- OK, I went to this really famous restaurant here. I'm so ignorant. McDonald. First of all, this is why I don't like talking about Top Chef, because it really shows off my ignorance, more than any other show. I know I show it off every week, but this really shows it off. So it was like Juan Marco de la Casa. I was like, someplace and some famous chef was a place in Beverly Hills and some hotel. It's like, you know, molecular gastronomy. It's not one where they had that movie where they all-- yeah, bizarre. Yeah. They have that movie where they're just testing things. That's where Michael Voltaggio and Marcel Fincol-- that's where they start off. Figures. OK, can I tell you how stupid this fucking food is? I cannot get behind this food, OK? And of course, my friends are brainwashed media whores. And they're like, oh, this is brilliant. OK, so you order something called eggs in there. Did you have dinner with-- did you have dinner with Edith Bunker? My friend's on the phone. Ouchy, ouchy. Let's get the flanker. Right. I'll go kind of handy. I want this. It looks like an egg, but it tastes like a jelly bean. Ouchy, yeah, you got to dump a liquid barge in Caparita, ouchy. Does that even sound like you do with Bunker? I'm so sorry, everyone. Well, you got her spirit. Listen, I have a cold, OK? Things are coming out, it's selling very strange. That was it. So they serve you food, OK, it's called like eggs in ham. And so you're like, oh, it's going to be like eggs in ham. So it comes out, and it's like yellow orb of something, I guess, to represent the egg. And you eat it, and it tastes like an egg, and it's really slimy going down your throat like egg yolk. But it's not egg, it's something else. And I'm like, who cares? I mean, I could have had a fucking egg for like 50 cents, all right? Who gives this shit? What is this? It's like food colored snot, like with something flavored like egg. To me, that's not good, OK? That's how that's called processed food people, OK? We're all trying to get away from that. Like flavoring something like flavoring a piece of foam like ham and then charging someone $50 to eat it is not new, OK? It's that's what Doritos do, OK? It's like it's like sand that they find on the ground, and they flavor it like things, OK? That's molecular gastronomy can kiss my ass. It's stupid, except I did like frozen-- I did like the frozen olive thing. It wasn't an olive, but it was in my martini, and then it melts in your mouth and tastes like olive juice. Ronnie, this is why I love doing the podcast with you, because you were-- I think you're so funny, and I'm not saying that in a contest. And we're like, oh, you're so funny, you're so precious. Like, I think everything you're saying is very much on point. Although, I've been to the bazaar I think twice, and I really liked it. I thought it was delicious. But what I have heard, though, I haven't been in years, because I would have to wait for my parents to take me, basically, and we went-- We're never going to fucking grow up. I know. And it was really when the bazaar actually opened. Jose Andres, I think is the name. Yes, Jose Andres. When it opened, it was amazing, amazing, delicious food. And apparently now it's not as amazing, and maybe not as revelatory. But still it's supposed to be really good. At least, you know-- The food was good, OK? The thing is, no, no, but the thing is, it's like, OK, you order the eggs and ham thing. It's like 20 bucks, right? And you're like, well, that's not bad for this kind of restaurant, thinking that's what you ordered. No, it's like a tiny little thing. And they even serve it with those tiny little espresso spoons, so everybody can taste it. But yeah, you each get one bite with this espresso spoon. It was $20. I mean, I think we spent like 200-something dollars each to eat there. And at the end of the day, what is it? It's not flavored like an egg. Just come to my house and I'll give you a fucking egg, and I'll do it for half the price. Don't get it. I do not get it. It's still a good markup, $10 egg. Yeah, it's good, right? Yeah, listen, I'll have your egg. Anyway, so let's see, what else happened on this episode? It's funny, I'm looking at the cast now. Well, that was-- I'm sorry, go ahead. No, I'm saying-- I'm saying I'm looking at the cast right now on the Bravo website. And there are at least two people that I've never seen on the show. There's a guy named-- Oh, they'll probably win. Yeah, there's a guy named George Baguenas. I've not seen him at all. And there's this woman named Rebecca LaMalfa. Again, no idea who she is, but they're two of them are on it. So there you go. Yeah, I'm not really sure-- Oh, George was the first guy-- George was Mike Isabella's sous chef, never mind him. Oh, I felt bad for him, because you know he's probably better than Isabella. I know. You know who I felt bad for? I felt bad for Joy Crump, who was the woman who was voted off. She's the one who looks like Questlove, like a Lady Questlove. No, she was like a really tired Macy Gray. She was like a Questlove meets Shirley from What's Happening. And I loved her. I loved her. She was like Macy Gray ate Questlove and woke up tired and then came to compete. I loved her, too. She was my favorite to win, because I liked it. She was like, man, everybody's better than me. That's how she talks. I know. She's like, I was making those potatoes. And I was like, wow, I'm surrounded by champs. So I have this crazy psychic ability with Top Chef, which is that at the beginning of every episode, I see a character, and I say, you know what? I like that person. And I hope they go far, and I kind of feel like they will. And I guarantee every single time I have that impulse, they get voted off. You know, I'm wondering if I still have Top Chef downloaded, because I wanted to test it this week. Because when I used to recap, Top Chef, I noticed these because you know every show has like a pattern or whatever. And one of the patterns I used to notice on Top Chef and Project Runway, because they used to be produced by the same people. And that was whoever they let call their loved one that we on Sidekick would get sent home every single week. So it was all the Sidekick of Doom. Because every time-- and then they changed it, because I guess they knew we were all onto them. And now there's a new one where Mike Isabella's partner was the first one kicked off. And he was the first one to get a testimonial that week. He was not a testimonial, but a diary run set. And so-- do I still have Top Chef, please say I do? Oh, I do. OK, so let me see here who has the first testimonial. I think the rule is the first person to get like where they intercut a picture of them with like the restaurant that they work or with their parents. They're the ones going home. OK, this week, the first person they show is-- no, it's not who they show. It's who they show talking. Oh, my god. Because this was a week ago, but now that I'm seeing these pictures, there's so much we have to talk about on this show. I mean, like within the first two seconds. The first testimonial was the guy with the Patrick Swayze tattoo, so I guess that didn't work. Oh, my god. Yeah, Patrick Swayze tattoo. That's the guy. That's James. James. Oh, I like James, actually. He's like a local Boston guy, right? Yes. I like him too, but Patrick Swayze tattoo killed me. I was laughing so hard when that happened, because it just came out of nowhere. And he's walking around without a shirt, which on a game network, they normally don't let you do unless you work out and stuff, which he doesn't. So I was like, yeah, bravo, they're growing up. But yeah, then he was like, yeah, it's Patrick Swayze, because he's such an inspiration the way he lived. That's like really? You know what? As far as stupid chef tattoos go, because that's what chefs are all about, stupid tattoos. I will take a Patrick Swayze tattoo over bacon or a cow. That's a tattooed cow where the cow's body is portioned off to different cuts of meat, or a tattoo of a leak or an onion or something that's like chef. I'm so sick of it. The worst is bacon. Yeah. Do you remember that guy who won Hosea? And he was like, bacon. Hey, I love bacon. So it's going to be the one who had a bacon t-shirt. Yeah, that was the beginning of the bacon trend in pop culture. And I hated it then. I hated it even more now. Remember the guy a year or two ago who he had a tattoo, I think, of a pig? I even saw the movie chef. And John Favreau's character, I think, has a tattoo of a fork and a knife. And I'm like, I fucking hate it. So it would be like us getting tattoos of microphones. Yeah, we're like, look, it's a typewriter. It's like a wireless Bluetooth people. I have a tattoo of my blue USB microphone, my snowball microphone. Yeah, or we could just have-- well, we could get really into it and have a Vanderpump picture where his Patrick Swayze is. Right over my boob, I could just have a Lisa picture. Yeah, I mean, I think it's funny that Patrick Swayze-- he does Patrick Swayze in a non-ironic way. He's such an inspiration. This is-- I know this sounds totally obnoxious to be like this. But on my other podcast last week, The Bancherblender, I actually interviewed Ryan Cabrera. Do you remember who Ryan Cabrera? He's like a singer. Yes. He's like a singer. And he has a tattoo of Ryan Gosling on his shit. And he showed it to me and everything. And his story was like, yeah, basically, got drunk with my friend. And we played tattoo roulette. And he got to design a tattoo for me. And I designed a tattoo for him. And we didn't get to see it until we took the bandage off. And he had Ryan Gosling on his. And for me, it was like a dove or something. And so the friend got to put Ryan Gosling on his shit because-- I don't know. The point is, it was like a funny drunken story. But he wasn't like, yeah, I put Ryan Gosling on my shit because he's such an inspiration as an actor and as a human being. Yeah, you've lost a bet. So I found my notes for Top Chef. Now, here's the problem with talking about Top Chef. Normally, I binge while I eat it because I have to eat when I'm watching a cooking show. And so I save that show for binge time. So it's hard for me to take notes. I only have four or five lines of them here. And they're mostly hating on this Patrick Swayze tattoo, Todd English's face, which look, we make fun of women's face, so we have to do it for the men too. Todd English, OK, you're so successful and wonderful. Why are you doing that to your face? Stop it, men. Men, it's not perfected yet. It's not acceptable yet for men, OK? Yeah, I'll do it. Except for me, I'm going to get my net cut. I don't because Katie knows someone who can freeze the fat there and take it off. But otherwise, stop it, OK? Stop pinning your face up. Stop filling it with fillers. You do not look younger. You look fatter. Stop it. Stop it. The other thing was Snotty Asian, bitch. Oh, I love Snotty. May, I love Snotty Asian, bitch. I'm about to kill Snotty Asian, bitch. Now, there's also really sweet Asian, bitch. So don't get me. Don't get confused. Melissa, the sweet one, May, is the Snotty one. Oh, my god, I love the Snotty one. The one who worked for Voltaggio and thinks she's so great because she worked for fucking Voltaggio. All she's got. I work for Michael Voltaggio, and he knows that I'm the best, and everyone's going to know I'm the best, and everyone's going to be stuff right at me because I work for Michael Voltaggio. I am the best. No, no, no, no. I am-- I love her. You know, I work for Applebee's. Guess what? That does not make me Mr. Applebee, OK? It doesn't mean I have a big, giant dining room with pictures screwed to the wall and wonderful onions that are fried and wonderful nachos, OK? It just means that I worked for him, bitch. It does not mean anything else. I'm not Mr. Applebee. I like May, Lynn. She is-- she scowls like no one else, and I love it. She's like-- you know, it's like she's like a-- she's just like a cold, hard bitch. And that's just what I like. And I-- you know what? And she gave credit to Cat-- So Eric, I cannot wait for her ass to get kicked off. I cannot. Listen, listen. She's not totally arrogant because Kat Tsuji Tanabe, he made that sauce. He was like, I'm going to make the sauce. I'm going to make the sauce. She's like, I want to make the sauce. So then he makes the sauce, and she's like, yeah, it was really fucking good. And you know, that was cool that she gave him. After he got complimented or before? It's before. Because she gets-- she gets put on the team with two people who were on the bottom last week, which I know has got a sack. But she makes a huge face in front of them. And then she-- Oh, yeah. They're going to take me down. I can't believe that I work for Michael Vultasio. Now I have to work with these idiots. Oh, yeah. I would not want to work with her. This is a situation where in real life, I don't want to work with her or be on her team. And she was mean to their fate. Like she was just really mean and snotty. And I cannot wait for her to get kicked off. I think my thing is that I don't really love Catsuji yet. I kind of find him to be kind of annoying. But I'm open to loving him. But if you get them Mexican Jew-- Mexican Jew, Japanese guy. He's the one who he almost got eliminated the first episode. Now I also-- I like that Katie. Katie almost-- she was the other one on that team. I like her. She seems very sweet. I like when the-- Oh, yeah. The Northern two. Yeah, except she was the one who was like, this is Missouri broccoli salad or something like that. And the brass is like particularly-- What was it? Yeah, it was something like very-- it was like a Midwestern broccoli sauce. I actually like all the women on this season, I have to say. Including Rebecca-- I like her. But I do not like snotty Asian girls. She's just-- She's my favorite. She's my favorite of the women. But they did cast some unapologetic douchebags, including her, and that little short guy. And-- Wait, the short guy? The short guy, I mean, Doug, the beard? No, no, not the midge. Oh, yeah, Aaron. Right, yeah, yeah. I like Doug. I'll tell you, the guys I like. I like Doug. Gregory-- I like Gregory. He's not my favorite. But he looks like he's probably going to be the best male. He's the black guy. Ron, Eister, I like Ron. He's the one. He's like the fat beard guy with the birthmark. I like him. But I kind of feel like he screwed over joy, because he was the one who was like, don't take the bone out of the veal. And the veal wasn't ready, you know? Oh, yeah. But he was right that if they had taken it out, I think they would have given them a shit. There's just certain things on Top Chef that aren't really fair. Like, if there are some time restraints, it just aren't fair on that show. They're like, you have 20 minutes to make gnocchi. You can't make gnocchi in 20 minutes, OK? You have to bake that. You have to cook the potato, skin it, chill it, rice it. You know, it takes more time. You cannot do that in 20 minutes. And sometimes I just don't believe it, because there was one season, Tiffany. I think season one, Tiffany was like, look, I made gnocchi in 20 minutes. I was like, bitch, you did not. And I know that they must-- I had her friend who was on one of these cooking shows. It wasn't Top Chef. But she was like, yeah, they gave us a little extra time. Yeah, they added 10 minutes or so. Yeah, I remember the first time and the only time I ever tried to make gnocchi was probably like 2006 or so, 2007, when I was just starting to learn how to cook, which was like an interesting process onto itself. I was sort of teaching myself. So I had made like a few recipes by Giada de Laurentiis, and they had been successful. And so I was like, oh, I want to make gnocchi. I like gnocchi. So I followed her recipe, and I really didn't know what I was doing. And I put those little potato balls right into this boiling water. And the recipe said, boil them for like two minutes. And I was like, that can't be, right? Pasta takes like 10 minutes to boil. So I boiled those suckers for like eight minutes each. And it was just like this like buttery potato goo that came out. And so then I just heaped together all the gnocchi and just made it like a weird mashed potato. And I will always remember that like gummy disaster. Yeah, gnocchi is actually really rough. And they don't tell you how to make it the right way, because there's a certain couple of steps that you miss, because I love a gnocchi, OK? And that was a rough one for me to learn to cook, because I tried all these different recipes. And they would always, they would disintegrate in the water, or something was always wrong with them. And finally, I watched Anne Whatzerbuns around Food Network, my favorite, on there, because of this. Because she was like, oh, OK. So once you cook the potato, you have to mash it. Then you have to rice it onto a sheet pan. And then you have to chill it. And then you add the flour and make them to little balls and boil them. And then they're perfect, they're fluffy and amazing. I've never read another recipe that said to do that. Well, Anne Burrell, you know-- She's the queen. I feel like, honestly, Anne Burrell and Ina Garten recipes almost always work out. Yeah, I just taught me how to make pork roast. By the way, pork one, I mean. Well, this is off topic, but her new cookbook came out yesterday, and I came for me in the mail. I'm so happy, because I'm sitting here. I have a cold, in case you couldn't tell. And I was lying in bed yesterday was my wallow day. I mentioned this on the bonus episode. I'm sorry, you're going to hear it twice. But it was my wallow, wallow day. And this cookbook came and like, oh, made me so happy. Like, is there anything better than when you're sick, that you get like a toy, basically, you know? Yeah, something that comes in the mail. Yeah, I just was like sitting there reading her cookbook. And this is such a good cookbook. There's so many interesting recipes. Like, some of her cookbooks are like solid, but the recipes are not that imaginative. They're kind of like retreads of her old recipes. But this one, I am so excited to make stuff from it. I like her. You know, I trust the fat ones. I don't trust Gianna because, first of all, her Gianna, because her show, I don't trust G-O-D-J. Sorry, I had that written on my notes. I don't trust her, not just because she's skinny, but because she all, her only adjectives are mmm. Ooh, that's good. Mmm. I think that's pretty much all she ever says. She's like, mm, that's good. Oh, wow, oh, that's good. Mmm, that's good. While she pretends to eat her bite for the camera and spit it out, and she makes shit. She's like, look guys, it's grilled salmon. And all you really need to do is put some honey on top of it. I'm like, how is this a cooking show, bitch? Please, make something. She's like, boil some pasta. She can't say pasta, she has to say pasta. Like, and if anyone says it differently, she's like, no, that's wrong. I'm part Italian. Bitch, that is not how you say pasta. I've never heard no Italians say pasta. [LAUGHTER] You know what we should do, Ronnie? Because there are a few of these people who have restaurants in LA. So we have Aaron, who has Bowen, Truss, and Noho. We have Mae Lynn, who's at Inc. and WeHo. And then we have Katsuji, who is at Mexico, which is in the Pico area. I think there's like one other of these chefs is base in LA. We should go one night and order just like a small appetizer, like a cheap appetizer, from each of these places. And then we can come back on the podcast and we can weigh in on how we think they are. So it's good to me, like have a food trip? Yeah, it'll be hilarious because we basically will be judging these chefs on food that they may or may not have actually cooked. [LAUGHTER] But I'm OK with that. Losing weight can be hard, and when it comes to prioritizing your health and feeling confident and strong, it can be difficult to know where to start. Now you can get your health in check and be confident that you're on the right track to getting healthy through hers. 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And spontaneously written songs of joy. I am so happy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. To get those, make everyone on your list feel heard with gifts like personalized jewelry. Custom artwork, vintage pieces, and home decor. For original gifts that say "I get you," Etsy has it. Oh, no. Ronnie is so excited that he actually left. You back? Yeah. What happened? I don't know. I just said that you were so excited that you just left to go to the restaurant. Yeah, I was like, bah. I'm going to go get some Mexican food. Yeah. Mexican food. I love that guy. He's like, I'm here to represent the Mexicans, the Jewish people, the fat people, the people who ride on buses, the people who put pomade in the hair, the people who like the color red, and the people who like macaroni and cheese. That's me. I'm everything. You know, I love Top Chef. Honestly, it's such a breath of fresh air because Food Network has filled our TVs with so many, like, dumb cooking competitions. Wannabe. Yeah, I mean, you know, I enjoy Chopped, and I know I like Food Network Star, but everything else. Yeah, but how many times can you watch someone try and cook like Jackfruit or whatever? I know. How many is Jackfruit anyway? They have that at Whole Foods now in the fucking buffet. That's disgusting. I'm not eating that. I think it's youth and Thai cooking a lot. And is it really fruit? It looks like tuna fish. I don't know. But either way, it's like, you know, all these shows, these cooking competition shows have spread to other networks. Esquire has a show and the travel channel has just-- everything is like the same. The best chef still go to Top Chef. Top Chef is still the gold standard. Yes, Top Chef sometimes. They have people who can't open a cereal box. Really? You don't know how to open up a cocoa crispy? Come on now on the cooking show. The funniest channel is the cooking channel because that's like the get a little brother of Food Network. I guess it's owned by the same people. And whoever is not good enough to get on the Food Network goes over to the cooking channel. And they're really stupid on that one. They have one called Bitchin Kitchen. I hate it, hate it, hate it so much. It looks like the Gadzooks, where it's like trying to be all badass inside. Yeah, that's-- Like a go-around. She's like-- she has this sort of like this-- she's like Russian or something or Polish. But she's trying to do this like weird rockabilly thing. So she's like, oh, hey, I am a cat. And she's like, whatever her name, she's like, welcome to the Bitchin Kitchen. And now I'm going to mix some salt and sugar together. And then she cuts away to some strange character who's like on a motorcycle. And I'm like, what is this awful show? I'm not opposed to a rock star. It's like their top show on that channel. It's actually big. She's got a big following. It's hilarious. Cooking-- it's actually-- now I'm getting really mad. Because cooking channel was started up as it was supposed to be the channel where it was like, you know, the VH1 classic to VH1. It's like, OK, while food network becomes more based on like reality shows and competitions, cooking channel is going to be all cooking, you know? And it shows for cooking fanatics. But very slowly, cooking channel has become the repository for all the leftover kitchen impossible, restaurant impossible, or like all those Michael Irvine shows. And now it's just more of the food network. Like, there used to be this show on it. It may still be there. This-- it was like this French cooking show. There was like this woman in Canada whose-- her name was like Laura or something like that. She had long hair. And like, the entire show was like scored with Edith Piaf. And she had this very sophisticated, haughty way. She's still on. I love her. And it's actually like in her house, like in her gigantic-- Yeah, and she's always like-- And she's like really snobby. I love that too. She's so snobby. She's amazing. She's like-- and she has this weird accent. She's like, well, so for today, I thought I would make some proven some on you. Because why not? It's Tuesday and I deserve it. And I'm like, yes, girl, you do deserve it. So be like, when your husband is in finance and makes tons of money, I'm like, I don't know what her accent is. She's like, when you have all the money in the world, sometimes a little boiled cream can really fill that void. So just make sure that you simmer that for 37 hours and then debone your fish with a spoon. And then when you're done with that, make sure this egg is sitting out on the countertop for four hours until it's room temperature and then thrown into boiling water. But just let it float. I'm like, shut up, babe. You're making an egg. No, listen, don't get on another egg rant, OK? You've already had your one egg rant. No more egg rants. She, Laura, whatever her name is, she's great. She's always like, everything is like-- she finds an excuse to treat herself to something. She's like-- I feel bad for her. No, don't feel bad for her. She's like making asparagus with a hollandaise sauce every single episode. And she's like, well, you know, today I had an overdue penalty at the library. So I thought, why not make myself some asparagus? Then she's like-- everything she's like-- she's like, hm, decided to make myself a fruit plate. They added a chunk and sauce instead. And then they put this-- well, she meant about the chocolate. She goes, you're just like, I can't even-- I can't do it. You have to pee off music right now, I'm sorry. I just feel like she's super sad. I feel like she-- her kitchen is so big and she's so tiny. You can tell, like, she does Pilates every day. And her husband's never home, so, you know, he's a fuck on somebody else. Does she have a husband? I don't think so. I think so. I feel like she's mentioned her husband. And she's like just sitting there with her Pilates body, making really fattening food that takes 20 hours all day in that house all alone. It's always like kind of sprinkling outside. I don't know. It is just doesn't-- It's always kind of sprinkling. You know what it is? It's always like it was just sprinkling. And now the sun's coming out. But there's still moisture on the windows. And, like, the light is sort of weird, you know? Her name is Laura Callaway. There's actually a really good one on that channel that I love. That's another French one. But it's a little girl who lives in Paris. It's like an English girl who has, like, a little flat in Paris. And she has, like, this teeny, tiny little stove. And she can't even really turn around in her kitchen. It's so tiny. But she still makes amazing things. And then she serves people like it's a restaurant. So people make reservations to come to her house. And she'll have, like, a dinner party of six. There's, like, a mime. There's, like, a docent from the Louvre. It's not that big. Like, it's no one-- people walk in, and they have to sit down, and that's it, because there's nowhere else to go. And she still makes amazing things. She taught me how to make mackerel. Does Carla Bruni ever come by? No, but see, they always show her shopping. So she'll be like, today, I walked through the streets of Paris, and I looked at the beautiful things that were out, because whatever's fresh is what we're going to use. But she's kind of like a fellup. She's really pretty. And she's, of course, voluptuous, because she's a chef. But she's not fat. She's just, like, a curvy woman. And so, of course, is Paris. So everywhere she goes, guys are like, oh-ho-ho! Shut up, shut up, shut up! They're, like, nice-ass, bitch. They're, like, basically, fucking French. And she gets sexually harassed everywhere she goes. And she's just pretending she can't stop looking at the bread. I love her. I don't know why we're talking about all this stuff. So there's more I have to say. I can't stop. Have you ever seen the show "Everyday Exotic" with Roger Mooking? He sings his own theme song? No. It's so bad. He's like-- like, the show starts, and he, like, sings this whole song. And then it's like all these, like, international flavors. But it's-- he says, like, the same phrase is open over again. He's like, all right, now all we're going to do is add some turmeric. All right, now we're just going to add some cumin. OK, now we're just going to add some coriander. It's, like, over and over again. Well, it's already better than Giada's mmm. He also has a show with Aaron Sanchez, Aaron Sanchez. Oh, that's fucking guy. Oh, whatever. OK, we get it all on your Mexican. OK, everyone's proud of you. OK, you're unlike the billions of other Mexicans on the planet. He's like, oh, well, you know what I really liked about this? [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] It's OK, we get it, all right? And I've never even heard a Mexican pronounce it like that, so stop it. It's that show that spice hunters is all about the two of them eating burgers. And then one of them puts their hand on the other one's shoulder and goes, whoa, whoa, it's hot. That's the entire show, every single episode. He is so proud of his stupid accent. It makes me crazy. So when he judges on Chop, he's like, oh, OK, this dessert that you made, that you made it with a bagel and some fish sauce and some cinnamon. And what else? Like gum and the gum. OK, so I thought that this would have been better with some heat, because I am a Mexican. And I love [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] Every time, it's like Jesus Christ. Pour some hot sauce on our roams, all right? Or you're going to lose. All right, let's think of those-- Oh, I was going to say, I have a fantastic segue, because speaking of sauces and condiments, you know where I'm going with this. Coming? No, I was going to say on "Man's Out With Children" this week. Oh, no, they went to Austin. Sorry, we have to-- now we have to bring it-- I'm sorry. You know, "Man's O's" is my town. I mean, Austin is my town. So I did not like that. We actually had a double episode of "Man's O's With Children." Oh, there was? Well, the other episode was doing the cafe stuff. Oh, I'm sorry. I only saw the one where they went to Austin. I didn't know it was a double. Well, OK, don't worry. I can tell you exactly what happened. Basically, Lauren Manzo was a bitch on wheels. She decided to change her-- change the face from a beauty bar to a blowout bar. And Caroline was like, you can't just change it. You can't just change it without telling me. Dada, dada, dada, dada, dada. And then Lauren was like, wow, dada, dada. And then, anyway, she wants to change the name from "Caface" to "Full Blown," which is hilarious. Because what I think-- everyone on the show is joking. Like, "Full Blown," they're making all these oral sex-- oral sex jokes. But I just kept on thinking, like, so what are they going to call the people that work there? "Full Blown AIDS," I don't know. Oh, god. I was actually thinking once you get into all our weight back, like "Full Blown." Either way, it's going from one terrible name to another. And they both lend themselves to obesity. There's fat face in "Full Blown." But she did-- but I will say, Lauren had a funny monologue about "Caface." She's like, I hate the name. People don't know what it means. People think it's "Cat Face." She said, I had someone last week literally called to make an appointment for their cat. [LAUGHTER] I'm like, listen, as long as you're serving egg salad, we'll be good. That cat probably would have been better served than most of the people that go on there. And that place looks like a damn mess. It looks like they just throw shit all over the counters and open the store. It looks like it smells like a woman's ass, let's be honest. Yeah. So anyway, so that was the first episode. And it was just like Lauren was really being insufferable. And there was just more stuff with the girlfriend. Albie has this girlfriend with big tits. And she's obviously a fame whore. Even though there was a lot of discussion about how it's easy to dismiss her as a fame whore, but that she might not actually be one, she obviously is one. Oh, God. I only saw her on the commercials. She's definitely a fame whore. Listen, anyone that hot dating Albie is either dating him for fame or money. And we all know it ain't money. Yeah. And then there was also more footage of Caroline working out, going to a boxing gym with Albie. I'm like, how many times do we have to see Caroline go to a gym and then complain? Yeah. I think they think that's funny to us, but I don't get it. I don't get this show. So the one other episode I saw opens with a memory of Caroline shaving her face, which was fucking disturbing. Oh, and then she starts talking about making barbecue sauce. And I'm like, wait a second. Being from the South now, you know, just start making barbecue sauce in New Jersey. I mean, who does that? What fucking person in New Jersey has ever made fucking barbecue sauce? I've never heard of that before. And you know why? Because that is one of those things we enjoy doing in the South. We enjoy shit that takes 50 years and just requires a lot of eating and nothing else. Because you can just sit back and say, well, I'm making a sauce, you know? And no one expects anything of you the rest of your life. It's barbecue. It's a respectable thing. You don't just walk into the fucking salt lake, which is like the most famous, one of the most famous places in Texas and ask them how they make their barbecue sauce. You fucking retard. No, it's an art. I will say, actually, I enjoyed the second episode a little bit more, but mainly because I enjoyed seeing the restaurants they went to and the food they were eating, it looked good. But it's not, you know, everything else. I also was like, this stupid woman, thinks she could just walk in. I was like, I don't even know what the salt lake is, but I guarantee she's not gonna get this recipe. Oh, you would love Austin. I can't believe you haven't, like gone and spent a month there, just for the food alone, just going from place to place, it's a big restaurant town. I love when they went into that broken spoke or whatever, and the waitress was like that girl from True Blood that was the waitress in that bar that was, they kept putting the memory thing on like raising her memory, so she was always horrified every time she found out there were vampires. I always, I didn't watch True Blood, but to me, the waitress was like, Austin's answer to Kim D. Oh, yeah, Kim D and a Kim D not married rich. Yeah. She's like, you listen here, y'all, I'm gonna bring you some good drink. And she bought some fireballs. I was like, ugh. Which I just read were taken off the shelf in Europe because they don't need the quality guidelines. But they're good for America. But they're good for us, y'all. Okay, so I wrote barbecue sauce, boys opening golfing. So I guess that's the thing where they open and the boys are like playing in the backyard together, bantering. Yeah. No. Manzo's to Austin. I wrote in caps, not funny. And then I put bugs in Texas are aggressive. I'm being eaten alive. And then I put, now you know the horror of animals every time you're around. So I guess that I guess that must have been the daughter who said that. Oh, and then I wrote, when they went to shop for hats, Lauren says, that's why I don't lose more weight because I don't want my head to look like a bobble head. And I was like, or cheesecake? And that's really all I have. Uh, I can't with that. So I don't care if there's nothing on it. I don't care if this week Bravo says, we're not showing anything but Manzo's with children. If they do that next week, we're talking about how to get away with murder for an hour. Okay. I'm not watching the show again. When Lauren said the reason why she doesn't lose more weight is because she doesn't want her head to look like a bobble head. I was like, you just keep telling yourself that, Lauren. You just, you just keep telling yourself that. That's the reason why. I did laugh when Christopher said, or one of the brothers, I don't remember, I said, well, maybe you can get a lap band for your head. (all laughing) The brothers had a few, there were a few one liners this week. They were funny, but of course I didn't write them down. And you have to suffer through the rest of it where it's just not, it's just not. And then Charlie won't want to be mean 'cause they actually seem so nice to me. Do they seem nice to you? I always think they seem like such a nice family. They do. They do seem like a nice family. I know a lot of nice families. I don't want to watch them. You know, they seem like a nice family, but I think they're a little too amused by their own preciousness. You know, like, it's like, okay, we get it. And also, you know, the way Caroline came strutting out of the last restaurant, being like, I got the recipe. I'm like, you didn't get the recipe. You got like one ingredient, you know? - Yeah, he told you to boil ketchup and add like fucking salsa to it. Okay, it's not a recipe. - Yeah, and I don't know. I mean, it's just, it is one of those shows where you're like, why am I watching? - You know, it's pleasant enough, I suppose. Like it's, I don't know. It's a big no. - No, no. - It's a big no, big no, no. - Huge no. - Huge no. - Huge no, huge no. Wait, so what else, a million dollar listing Los Angeles? - Well, I haven't watched that show this season, so I used to actually watch Los Angeles. I like that one. - Yeah, I like the two, I actually like the two. Did you watch, did you watch last week's episode? - I did. - Me too. - That's the first one, it's the first one that I had watched. - And I'm so sad because, you know, Josh Flag, who is the nicest of them all, his, you know, as we know, this was in the news that his grandmother had passed away. And it looks like the episode, last week's episode is sort of like leading up to her death. It looks like this week's episode is when the show deals with it. And I'm so sad because she was so wonderful. - I know, it was really sad. I was really upset that now is the time we chose to watch it because I am a fan of that show, even though I haven't watched it this season. And I really, really like her. Let me see. I did like where there was kind of a montage of advice from Edith because I thought that, I don't know, I just thought it was really funny. She's like, well, if they don't give you the money you want, you make them vape, you make them vape it out. And he's like, okay grandma, Edith. And it's like, you want to make those pants work? Get them two sizes smaller. - Okay, okay, thank you. I thought that was so sweet. Now she's dead. So thanks a lot, Bravo. - Thanks a lot. - Otherwise, they've got two new characters 'cause Madison Hildbrand, which is the funniest name still to me at Merton, is gone. Probably giving someone else's bully laugh from the fifth grade. He's gone and he has been replaced by two homely guys from Britland. - Yeah, I don't mind them. I actually don't mind those British guys. I mind them. I do not like them. Here's why I don't like them. Okay, it's not even that I don't like them. I've only seen them in one episode and they're working hard for their money. I'll give them that. British people, you know how British people make fun of Americans relentlessly every time we see Americans go over there? - Yeah. - Well, guys, it's kind of your turn. Don't spray tan if you're British, okay? It does not work for you. You look crazy, you have these big ears and these big ol' noses and these beady little eyes and then you just look orange on top of it. Does not work, don't do that. - Yeah. - And that's really all I have to say for them. There's a reason that God made England cloudy. Some people are not meant for the sun. You're two of them. Stay away from it. You look crazy. - That being said, their client was super hot. - Oh my God, okay, that's like such a typical LA guy. 45 year old guy in skinny jeans. - Yeah. - Stop with your fucking skinny jeans. - But he could do it. He could do it. He was hot. - I mean, his hair was a little too bushy, but you could see. - That guy's ridiculous. And he's an old standby on this show. He's been on it a few times. He's usually selling. He's usually one of the sellers. - Oh, I have an illness. - And they have like, find him a home to buy. - You know what I was excited about? That Josh, not Josh. Yeah, Josh Altman. He had to take this woman, this British woman, to look at houses that one of the mansions that they looked at was that giant atrocity that they've been building on Sunset Boulevard for years, years and years and years and years. You know what I'm talking about? - And they keep showing it to people on this show. - Oh really? - This was like a rehash of so many houses that they've already shown people a zillion times. And nobody is gonna buy that house. - 'Cause it's, here's the thing with that house because I'm assuming you've noticed that house too before you've been this show, right? - Where is it now on Sunset, what? - It's just on Sunset Boulevard, sort of like, you know when you're going west on the Sunset Strip and then it turns into Beverly Hills, you just go like a few blocks in and it's like right there. And it says huge-- - Oh, so it's like on the street? - Yeah, it's like this huge, huge like fake chateau. - Who built a $60 million fake chateau on the street? - Exactly. - Manless. - Enclothes someplace. - Yeah, from, you know, on the show, they make it look like it's almost like this big private estate. No, it's like you see it as you drive by and it's been under construction for ages. Clearly there were delays and everything. But to me what's hilarious is that like, it's so ugly and gaudy and it's like it's, on the one hand, it wants to be a chateau, okay? And so it has all these chateau flourishes. But then it also sort of wants to be modern. So it has these like big black ugly windows, right? On that front, right at the front door. And then the front door has this like canopy of sorts that's almost like an homage to like the Paris Metro like coming out of the Paris Metro. It is so like misguided and beyond terrible. I don't know. - It's very Vegas like hotel. - Yeah. - Like when Vegas is trying to look like Venice or whatever. - Yeah, it's absolutely terrible. And someone will buy it. Someone with no taste will buy it, but. - But $60 million, I mean, come on. - It's huge. I mean, when you drive by it, every time I drove by it, I'm like, is that building for real? It is so massive. - One of my favorite things about million dollar listing LA is to see the crappy homes in LA. Like there's something weird about Los Angeles, and I'm not sure if it's in zoning laws or what, but have you ever noticed if you are up in the hills, you'll see construction on empty lots still, but it's very rare to see an entire house get knocked down and rebuilt. There must be some kind of law about it because most of the homes here were built in the '60s, it looks like, especially if you're over the hill. Like in North Hollywood, every, all the ceilings have cotton. What is that cotton ceiling? What is that called? - Gorglass. - No, that texture that they put on ceilings is called like. - Oh, yeah, yeah, popcorn. - Yeah, popcorn ceilings. They've all got popcorn ceilings and terrible carpet because that's what time they were built in when that stuff was popular. And here it's like '60s, like Sree's company, and nothing ever gets updated. Like they were showing that guy, the Brits were showing that guy, these old outdated '70s homes, and they're still $20 million. - Well, I actually-- - Probably dude. - Well, I actually loved the second one that the guy looked at. It was like big and like, when he was like, oh, it's too much of like a bachelor pad, I'm like, sign me up. - Oh, well, that's true because when you're in the hills like that, you're paying $20 million to basically be where everyone can see, everyone can see into each other's homes, you know? - Yeah. - Yeah, Leah Black's husband has a telescope. (laughing) - I'm sure they all have telescopes. They probably all look at each other. That's how Leah knows where everyone lives. You go to her house and she's like, - Look, that's Britney Spears. Look over there, it's Justin Bieber. Isn't that fun? How fun is that? (laughing) - Oh, good news. Our policy specialist reviewed your site and decided to re-enable ads. Oh, really Google, oh, really? Really now after three weeks of no income and me crying and vowing to sell my site and leave the internet forever. Well, thanks a lot, Google. - What was I gonna say? - Sorry, I shouldn't take email while we're doing this. - I liked it. - But that's what happened guys. That's been my drama, all right? And I'm sick of it. - By the way, I also like that the British woman that Josh Almond was like taking around, so they look at that $60 million house and the woman was like, oh, yes. I just don't think that we can take this because it'll be done in two months and when we buy it, we won't have anywhere else to go. As if if you pay $60 million for a house, you can't afford a rental for two months. - Two months ahead, by the top floor of the four seasons. - Yeah, exactly. And then they settle on like a, I don't know, maybe like a, it was a $16 million house. I'm like, okay, well, obviously the reason why I didn't take it, not 'cause it wasn't done, 'cause you can't afford $60 million. - Also her cheap ass husband, it's always those people who were like, I'll look at the $16 million home, please. - And then their husband gets on the phone with the real estate brokers who, by the way, Josh and his brother, Double Doosh, and they're on the phone with this guy, like the house is 16 and he's like, I'll give him 12 for whatever. Like, no, you're not gonna get this house for fucking two to $4 million less than he asking. And he's like, I'll get a real agent. You are not gonna get any agent that is gonna get you this house for $2 million off the asking price, Yodildo. - Well, the best part about that British guy was that he was like, well, he gets on the phone with his wife, he's like, hi, honey, how's pumpkin? And she's like, oh, pumpkin's good, it's like, oh, good, shnookums, so glad he's having such a lovely trip. Oh, it's so lovely to speak to you. And he's like, that put me on with the agents. They're like, hello, he's like, where the fuck is my house? (laughing) I'll get some real agents. I'll get my, I'll get my party nice and-- - Two week or two days. - I know. - Oh, another thing I love is that the houses, I put houses in a layer, so '60s and like fake marble and stuff. And then it shows the view, they're like, look at this. This is your $20 million view. And it's like total pollution. You can't see anything in the hills. 'Cause it's like, you're almost, you're close to the smog, you know? - Josh, you know what? I really feel bad for Josh like, because you know, a few weeks ago, I posted photos from inside one of his houses that he's trying to sell, which apparently was then on the show, with all this like horrific like Greek Orthodox ornamentation and then like weird spanner stuff and like everything was like a disaster. And then they showed this house in Redondo Beach where it was like all marble and all these like strange chotchkes and weird like little like paintings of ostriches and donkeys all over. Like every, I don't know how you sell that. I don't know how you sell that without just tearing down. - Ondo Beach is a pretty crazy place. - Yeah. - I don't know if you've ever been anywhere out there once or twice. - I've been like to, I've met a few people out there and every time I go, it's crazy and like who lives like this? It's a beach or a Playa Del Rey where you go and it's like all the sanitation departments all along the beach, like blowing their poopy, like poopy pollution everywhere. And people are like, look, I moved to the beach. I'm like you moved to the fucking sanitation center. Like you basically moved to the place where they processed shit. Congratulations, enjoy your view, fucking weirdo. - Meanwhile, stay inland. - Meanwhile, Josh Flag bought his boyfriend, Colton, a like this really sweet BMW, right? And you know, the thing is I've never been a fan of Colton. You know, I think Josh Flag is so sweet. And I mean, Colton's been nice, but there's something about him that I feel like there's something like quietly evil about him based really on very little, based solely on TV. - Well, he does look like an evil little queen. - He does, and you know, so here's, okay, so here's, I'm gonna be very internet-y right now. I did not like that Josh gets Colton this BMW and then, and Colton's like, I'm gonna take it for a spin and he just drives off. I'm like, how about you say, hey, you wanna come with me? That you know, like this guy just bought you this like, this like, you know, this car that costs thousands of dollars and you just go driving off? No, Colton. - Or Josh has the brain of a top at the bottom, so it's really hard to find a bottom. Like he basically had to find one of the lollipop people to be his bottom, or a thing, and he's so nice. He had a bueller one time. - Oh. - He was like, I like your dog and I said, you're dressed so casually. - I like the way that Josh, I like the way that Josh Flag's voice lilts up when he talks sometimes. I'll be like, all right, we'll get you in there. I'll be like, all right, we'll see what we can do. - You actually do sound like him. - Well, we're gonna, I'm sure we'll sell this in no time, okay? - So how about the other Josh and his stupid fake relationship? - I'm so sick. - And a stupid fake girlfriend with her new face that doesn't even make any sense. It looks like a Mr. Potato Head put together backwards. - She's looking in sluttier and sluttier every season. - She is, and she's like, I decided that we shouldn't get married because I need more time and I know that you enjoy your job but I need to be first in your life and I need to come before your job. I'm like, bitch, you ain't never gonna come before, you could come before work and then he's gonna go to his job. You are never gonna come before his job, okay? Get over it, stop dating somebody who's one way and then think you're gonna change them with your magical vagina. That's not how life works. Meet somebody that you like and marry them for that, right? - Thank you. - You don't seem to have any problem with the money that he's making. - Yeah, exactly, like I hope you enjoy having this conversation at Red O, okay? Because if you want him to stop working, you'll be having that conversation at Baja Fresh next time. - Yeah, no kidding. Enjoyed discussing this over a nice red Robin burger made out of like ground salmon. - Yeah, she's gonna be like Spago being like, I really don't, I just want you to spend less time at work. Like, enjoy that price-fix meal, prefix in fact. You know, it's like, yeah, I know that she works and does something, but it's like very, she's like very classic. We see these women all over it, LA. You know, like pretty blonde, attached themselves to someone who earns a lot of money and then they're like, "But Josh." - Yep, that's pretty much how it happens. And hey, look, this is not only a woman thing. Men do it all the damn time too. They're like, "Well, I'm gonna get with this girl "who totally wants babies." And all she talks about is getting married and having babies. And then I'm not gonna marry her, give her babies. And then I'm gonna wonder why she's pissed all the time. It's like, 'cause you married somebody who wants a kiss and a baby. Okay. - That's just so many terrible people in the city sometimes. - In the world though, in the world. Okay, I've never lived in a city where I haven't hidden inside most of the time. Austin came close, but trust me, that place is full of as much assholes as anywhere else in the world, okay? A lot of good people, a lot of assholes, guys. It's called the world. - The world, the world. - Okay, so speaking of awful people, we're stuck in the world with, let's go on to Real Housewives of New Jersey. - I don't know why I called it, "Gee Jersey." - I will just read my notes then, okay? - Yes, please do. - Bonding trip to Atlantic City. Dean has said it's a melting pot of white trash, which is totally true. Everybody's getting their period, so we got to listen to a bunch of bloody vagina talk. That was disgusting. And shoving tampons up their vaginas, which was really fun. And Dean is talking about bleeding like a stuck pig and trying to get a tampon in, but couldn't get it in. So that was a lot. Glad they put that back in the show. Keep that on the cutting room floor. I went to Atlantic City once, it was hideous. Stripper class, because that's new. So they have the stripper class, and everyone has their periods. And Melissa was pretending like she's never seen the stripper pull in her life, and was acting like she couldn't dance or anything, which is hilarious. - You know, what really makes me mad about that is that not only do we see the stripper class thing all the time on the Real Housewives, they've done it on New Jersey. Very famously, Danielle Stobb was in a stripper class, season two, where she spreads her legs like crazy. And then Kim G, Kim Granitell tries to get on the pole, and she swivels around and we see her wearing a thong. Like, there's no reason to bring that. Like, that was the high point of the stripper class storyline in all of the Real Housewives. There's been no need to bring it back. There was one funny thing that Dina said about the periods. 'Cause, I mean, they seriously talked about periods every two second. But Dina said, "Why does anybody trust women? "You should never trust anything that leaves "for five days and doesn't die." That was so, she so overheard that from one of her disgusting brothers, but I thought that was really funny. - That's funny. - Teresa was getting tanner all over the wall while Dina was trying to put on a tampon. Amber got drunk and started talking about her inner whore that's named something. Teresa doesn't know what an apparatus is. Teresa was talking about how she met her husband, Tommy, when she was like 16 or something. And Teresa's like, "Oh, I beat you." Because I met my husband when we was babies. And he was always in trouble, always in trouble. And my mom wouldn't let me anywhere near him 'cause he was in so much trouble. And now look at him, like happy, like, "Look, we're married." And I'm like, "You're both going to jail." Like, not getting it at all. Then Joe, Joe with the kids, 'cause he was stuck home with the kids, which I guess is gonna be the next year of his life. Mulani is just threatening to murder everybody. And he's like, "Heh heh heh heh." Like, loving it. What else? Twins are like an hour late or something and they get mad because everybody gambled without them. And then the twins went on a bitch rant where they were just mean to be on camera, yelling at everybody for being rude and not having any manners. - Oh God. - And what else? I mean, really, oh, oh, the best part was Teresa going to lunch with Kathy, okay? So she makes Dina come who just looked like she wanted to be anywhere else. But Kathy comes, they're being fake with each other. And Kathy's like, "Hey, listen, Teresa, "I've decided to write a cookbook," which immediately Teresa's hackles go up because that's her thing, even though she totally stole the cannoli idea. - Right. - And the desserts idea. So, Kathy's gonna make this cookbook. And Teresa's like, you know, already like blinking, like giving her those hard psychotic blinks. And Kathy's like, "And you know, "my publishers were asking if I could get a blurb "from people, like, who could give me a blurb?" And you know, I was wondering if maybe you could do it. And Teresa's like, "Blurb, blah, blah, blurb." And then she pulls out a dictionary, a big old dictionary. She's like, "Let me look it up in this dictionary. "Maybe then I'll know what it is." I was like, "Uh-oh." So then they cut back to when Kathy gave Teresa a dictionary as a joke Christmas present, basically calling her an idiot. And Teresa's like, "Kath, you call me an idiot, "and give me a dictionary, and now you wanna blurb." And Kathy's like, "Well, I thought it was funny. "I mean, I don't know why you didn't think it was funny." And listen, she doesn't think it was funny 'cause you fucking called her an idiot in front of her family and on TV, okay, that's why. But then Teresa wouldn't let it go, and it was really funny, and she refused to give Kathy a blurb for her. - Is that what you said? - Is that what you said? - Is that what you said? Let me look, if you look up the word bitch, it's Kathy. - Yeah, she's like, "Oh, I got a dictionary. "I'll look up bit, bit." It's key, K, A, F, E, E, I, E. - Can't wait for her to go to awesome jail. It'll be amazing. - I know, because really all you can do in jail is read. God bless her. - Oh man, she's gonna come out looking so old. - I am so mad that I watched Real Housewives of New Jersey's Secrets Revealed, and you did it. - I swear to God, 'cause I know we texted, and I didn't realize that we had signed off on that show. - Well, this has to be one of the weirdest episodes of ours because we talked about the cooking channel for half of it, and then shows that we don't like the rest of it. - I think it was sort of fun. I thought it was refreshing to talk about something else. And how many jokes can you, especially Jersey's been so bad. It's been fun talking about the houses on Million Dollar Listing. I liked it, and I liked our whole Top Chef rant, so. - I love Million Dollar Listing. I think I'm gonna watch that again this week, because next week is the Below Deck reunion, which nothing's gonna happen. I mean, I've watched Below Deck 2, did you? - I didn't know. - God damn you. It was really cute. - I'm sick. I'm sick. - It was very cute. Well, yeah, I was in front of the damn TV. Oh yeah, but you play those video games. No, I was like asleep, but listen. - It was good, really, really funny, but you know, you don't wanna talk about stuff that's good and funny. You need to talk about bitches fighting, you know? - Listen, next week on the podcast, we have a lot of stuff. We're gonna have the Jersey reunion. We're gonna have Below Deck reunion. We have Vanderpump Rules premiere. We have Euros of Hollywood premiere. We have a lot. And then. - I'd even have Mr. Matthew Wilson, but I'm not sure if he's coming next week or the week after. - Matthew Wilson? - Yeah. - Who's that? - I'm sorry, Matt Whitfield. - Oh. - I know I'm Matt Wilson too. Sorry. - Oh. Yay, Matt, oh good, good, good. So look, it's gonna be everything. It's gonna be so much. So this is just-- - Yeah, guys. - And I'm sure you'll have a brand new egg rant for us all. (laughing) - Y'all be pissed about some egging eggs. - You'd be like, I don't need to go on a yacht to have an egg. I can just go out and make an egg at my microwave. - If you wanna hear more random ranting about eggs and AIDS, check out our bonus episode to sneak on Patreon. (laughing) - I don't think we talked about AIDS this week, right? Always. It's only a child molestation. - We talked about a bunch of weird shit on that one. - Oh, we talked about gay bashing. - Yeah. - I had fun with the bonus episode this week, though. - Me too. - We were gonna talk about all this bravo gossip, and we only talked about one piece of bravo gossip, and we went on this whole thing. We talked about homophobia and this gay basher, and it was great. - Yeah, that was fun times, I agree. - It was fun. We had a lot of tangents this week. Anyway, I'm gonna go put this episode up and then go pass out. - Yeah, okay, so everybody come for extras, come to patreon.com/watchwickcrapins for our bonus episodes, rangers and parties. - And Patreon, Patreon is spelled P-A-T-R-E-O-N-I-E. - Yeah, and if you need that link, just come to our watchwickcrapins.com page. 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