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And then, yeah. - And by the way, Ello, enjoy having new ads 'cause you're gonna have ads. That's just the way it works. That's the way the internet works. You're gonna have ads. - Yeah, it's like when cable came out and they're like, if you pay for cable, you're not gonna have to watch ads anymore. And then like a year later, they're like, "Sorry, but you have to watch ads now." - Yeah. - And now you're paying more for cable than you are for any of your utilities. And you're still having to watch a shit ton of commercials every day. Thank you. I tried watching "On Demand," by the way, this week 'cause I just recently got cable back. Thanks to you guys. And you have to watch the commercials on demand shows. Fuck me now. - I know you can't fast forward. - That's bullshit, I'm not used to worse. - That's stupid. - Yeah. - Oh, anyway, so Ben and I are also doing this patreon.com/watchworkcraponsthing. And that is where you guys can come subscribe for extras. We do a bonus episode, which we just finished recording. So, yeah, $1, if you do $1 an episode, you get a bonus episode. If you get two, you get a bonus episode, plus like a, what is it, Ben, what's the $2? - Here, so, okay, so basically, if you donate a dollar on Patreon, dollar per episode, then you get access to our bonus episode, which as for Ron, he said, we just recorded. It was really fun. We talked about all sorts of Bravo Gossip. If you submit, if you, I'm not gonna submit, if you donate $2, you can participate in a monthly Google Hangout with us. And we're actually doing our first Google Hangout this Thursday. Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific Times, it'll be 10 o'clock if you're on the East Coast, 7 o'clock if you're on the West Coast, and y'all in the middle, you gotta figure that shit out. So, we're gonna be doing that. I'm really excited. 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I think up to like 10 people at a time. - Yeah, up to 10 people, yeah. - We can chat, we can show videos and clips and stuff like that. - You can share stories and secrets. - Yeah, that'll be funny. So, we don't wanna do too much ads, but on this, we wanna actually get back to talking about Bravo and not begging for money every week, but the basic thing is go to patreon.com/watchacrapins, sign up, and there's bonuses. The rest of the show's gonna stay free. All of this that you're downloading all weekly, you're listening too weekly, we'll always stay free, so don't worry about that. But if you want extras that wanna support the show, just come to us and do it that way. You can find the information on our Facebook page or at patreon.com/watchacrapins. - And one last quick thing is that once we get up to $1,000 per episode, we will do two normal episodes of Watchacrapins every week. Right now we do one plus a bonus. We will go up to two with a bonus. So that'd be like really exciting. And we're already up to like $425. We're like nearly halfway there, which is astounding. So really thank you everyone. - Yeah, thank you guys 'cause at that rate, we could be doing two shows by the time Bravo gets good again. This no further. - Yeah. - And January, when Beverly Hills is supposed to come back. 'Cause right now they are slacking off on this fucking channel. Oh my God. - I know. And in January, by the way, so we have two announcements. These are not advertisements. These are not, we're not asking anything of anyone. But in January, it looks like we're gonna be doing a live show at the improv in Hollywood. The date has yet to be nailed down. But it looks like that's gonna happen. So we're really excited about that. So if you guys wanna see this live, just mark your calendars tentatively. It'll be a Sunday, whatever. We don't know which Sunday yet. And then also, we wanna thank everyone who voted for us in the LA Weekly Best Podcasts poll. We did not win. We were up against, the people who won are the creators of the Chappelle show. So I mean, they have superstar guests on there. They have Chris Rock on there. So there's no way we can compete with that really. But really, it was really awesome that you guys all voted. So thanks. - Yeah, thanks, guys. - And I think that's it for the housekeeping. - Yeah, that's it. Thanks for everything, you guys. - So that's the show. Thanks, everyone. - Bye, everybody. Thanks. - We'll talk to you on the private Patreon page. Just kidding, guys. It's still free, damn it. Okay, so let's get on with the bribes, all right? - We have a lot. - So we started, we've talked about some stuff already, but I do have to ask you some certain things. For example, did you hear, what was I gonna say? Hold on. Did you hear it? Did you hear? Oh, did you see the previews for euros of Hollywood? - Yes, I didn't even know this show was coming. - That motherfucker Ryan Seacrest again. - No, it's not. Actually, I know for a fact it's not, not as if it's secret information, but this is from 19 Entertainment, the people who brought us American Idol. - Oh my God, this show is gonna be a Maize Town. I'm gonna love it. - Yes. - The preview is some girl going, "Oh, what is the thing you put the gas for? It's the nooser, it's the nooser, you put the gas in the nooser." I was like, "Oh my God, I'm gonna be able to watch this show for 24 hours a day, every day." - Yes. - No, it's like, and the one woman with the big tits, she's like, "In Albania, if I have a problem, I just called the Prime Minister." (laughing) - I think that's true. - Well, I think it looks hilarious. - It's gonna be really good. And this show isn't even getting around. It's just like, just give me a bunch of white people. I don't care. Give me a bunch of white people with funny accents, make sure they're thin. I don't even care how they look. Just make sure they're thin and they have accents. Okay, I'm like, okay, so it's great. We'll put it on Bravo. - I know, I'm so, so excited. - How do I put gas in my car? - I cannot wait for you, so I cannot wait for you yours to follow it. So then we went up, there's that one guy who was like, he was like, "People in America are trying everything." And he's like, in the middle of a target. It's like shot. (laughing) I was like, it really was like Stefan. It was like, he looks like Stefan. - We have already discussed Kelly's penis, which was shown this week. You can find the link on our Facebook page. But I'm scrolling through this because you guys post so much funny news on here. I am scrolling through it to look for stuff that you guys have been talking about. And there's this picture of Kelly from Below Deck with this gigantic crucifix on his arm. What is with buff guys putting crucifixes on their arm? We've seen that new big brother with two of the guys. It's like, is that a trend? I mean, what the hell? If you're so crazy, what are you taking dick pics for and putting them on the internet? - And you're up, we don't do that. We put a tattoo of Rosewater. - I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. - I just don't get it. Y'all realize that that's what we killed Jesus on, right? I mean, why is that on your arm? - Well, you saw that make happen. - It's not a compliment. It's like, remember where I killed you Jesus? Yeah, it's on my arm! - Nick Cannon, he put a giant cross on his back to cover up his Mariah tattoo. So, I guess the new thing-- - Oh my God, now Jesus is your beard. So no one will know you were married to an old lady. Get out of here, let's do it. - I've never understood that. My sister is like super Christian and she's got all these crucifixes in her house. Like she's got a wall of crosses. And they're so pretty. They're like all fancy, you know, all these different artists do these real fancy ones. Like there's ones with like gold plated shit all over it and like the Florida Lee and all that stuff and like, you understand that Jesus probably looks at this and he's like, why would I want to hang out in your living room? Like don't even pray because-- - Literally, you're inviting me into my living room to like remind me of where I got crucified. Thanks a lot, bitch. - I know it's funny, I was walking in Hollywood the other day and I saw one of the other artists. Get it? You're like, why would I want to hang out with this cross? No, I was walking in Hollywood and there were these like some like really religious like Asian people who like to walk around with crosses and a megaphone. And I was like, you know, like the cross is supposed to be like the religious, it's supposed to be the symbol of Christianity. And you're wielding it in such a massing way. And but truth be told, it was like actually a form of like torture and death. It's like, I had a very similar thought just yesterday. - Yeah, it's like you threatening to kill me? Get the fuck out of here with that. - It's like, I never understood why the Ku Klux Klan or just racist in general would like burn the cross on someone's yard. I'm like, that's your symbol. Like shouldn't you be, like if you're being, if you're being like crazy racist, shouldn't you like be like putting up some like scare, like a black scare currently on fire? Like that would make more sense in terms of like racist logic, right? But you're actually just lighting your own like sacred imagery on fire. What's wrong with you? - Well, no one ever accused the KKK of being intelligent. - Yeah. - That's for sure. - God bless our hearts. - And by the way, I'm not endorsing bringing a black scarecrow on someone's lawn and lighting out in fire. - Yeah, of course, but I mean, come on. I mean, those people wear sheets. What, you can't, you can't. - I know. - You just can't. - All right, let's just back away from the crucifix discussion. I don't know why we started with this. Except that there's these bald dudes with these fucking crucifixes. And I don't get it. It's like, you're trying to like have sex in a bar with somebody and you've got a big old cross. It's like, don't you believe that you shouldn't be having sex? I'm so confused, or sex before marriage, whatever. - Okay. - If you were, I'm just one, if you were sexy and muscular, do not get a crucifix tattoo or a tribal tattoo. And I know that all the sexy muscular guys listen to this podcast, so you're welcome. But those are the, those are two different rules. And if you're a woman, don't get a tram stamp. If you've got one, listen, it's okay. But less just- - Yeah, if you need something for someone to read while they're fucking you from behind, you're not interesting enough, okay? That's like when cereal boxes try and put games and shit on the back of the box. It's because they don't taste good enough. And they're trying to confuse you by like entertaining you while you're eating them, okay? Be more entertaining and stop putting fucking shit on your back to read while we're doing you, all right? - So blind people are screwed when it comes to cereal. That's what you're saying. - Pretty much. I mean, blind people actually probably eat good cereal 'cause they're not tricked by all the games on the back, you know? They're gonna go for Coco Plus because they're good, not because there's a fucking maze on the back. - So I'm gonna look for the cereal that says, number one for blind people. - Yes. Blind people approved. - Nine out of 10, five people. - I mean, it'll probably be the peanut butter cap and crunch. - Or that cookie, that cookie one. - Or fruity pebbles. They don't make that much effort anymore. They barely even put it in a big box. They'd like sell it to you in these tiny boxes now. Anyway. - I agree. - Why we're talking about this stuff. Okay. - We're just excited to be thinking about Kelly's penis. - Seriously, that thing, like that's, I think every white guy simultaneously cheered and also bowed their head in shame because that's rough to compete with. - I mean, next time people on the yacht wanna go down the slide, they just have to have Kelly standing at the edge and take down his pants and let that thing flop down to the water. - Yeah, I'm sliding down it. - Yeah, they can stop complaining about that damn slide. - Okay, what show do you wanna talk about first? Bien, it's Bien's choice today. - Oh my God, why don't we actually start with the Joe and Teresa interview? 'Cause that was-- - What, what I do? What, huh? You know, you know, what I gotta say, I gotta say, what I gotta do, what you gotta do. I gotta do what I gotta do. I mean, whatever, huh? What, huh? Sure, yeah. - That was basically, that was actually my first note that I had. Joe is constantly like, I mean, I don't know, you know? It is what it is, you know? I don't know. She didn't, you know, well, you know, this. A last time we talked about was one, you know, you know, so, you know, I mean, that's what it is, so, you know. I would have liked it, you know, but, you know, eh. - But, you know, it is what it is. You do what you do, what happens happens. It goes how it goes, you know, go in, it's going. Up is down, down is up, down is up, up is down, around, around, up, down. Like, okay, thanks, Joe, thanks for coming. - He's also become a very heavy breeder. He's like, oh, I just, you know, what he can do. It's like-- - It's like, we know Vader. (laughing) - The fraud made the fraud be with you. - What did it work? (laughing) - It's a fraud to be with you. - My first note is Andy's opening pout. Okay. - Oh yeah. - Okay, listen. Now, I have a lot of rude things to say about Andy Cohen. I know it, and I know a lot of people love him, and you know what? Andy Cohen makes some of the best entertainment, and obviously I've based a large part of my life watching what he does, so I'll say that upfront, so I'm not a total hypocrite. But this interview is why Andy Cohen makes me fucking crazy. He is the worst, okay? First of all, he's having these people on who were sentenced like that morning. It was like that morning of the day before. He starts by like crinkling his eye, like he's going, aww, like that look? Like when something-- - I know. - When you've hurt your toe, or when you've gained 50 pounds, your friends haven't seen you in a while, and they're just looking and like, aww. And he starts like that, and he's like, how are you guys doing? And then his biggest question of the night was, but you like Aaron Makeup, what are you gonna do in prison? I almost punched the fuck out of my TV when he said that. I was like, really, Andy, if you can't do this job, ask somebody that knows how to do it to at least feed you questions. Like, who's coming up with this shit? - Here I know. Well, what I thought was funny is just how, like, it's called Watch What Happens What I Want. I mean, this is like serious and the light was like darker. It's like the frost and Nixon moment. And I'm like, I just think it's funny that they suddenly decide to get very serious in the show when normally what you would tune in to expect would be like, okay, Theresa, so when you go to jail, like, what sort of girl do you want to bunk with? How big do you think her boobs are gonna be? - Like do you think your boobs may jail James? - Do you think your boobs may jail James? And ask, like, Luan? Or do you think she's gonna have an ask, like, Kim Zolciak? Spin the wheel! - Every time you say, drop the soap, everyone has a drink! (laughing) And then I was like, no, now we're gonna be serious. - Every time we say somebody's been raped by a plastic bottle that they stole from the cafeteria that once held milk, drink! (laughing) - Yeah, you know what it is, what it's, you know, I don't like the longest code word ever. I know, every time Joe mumble something saying it is what it is, I mean, you know, drink! I mean, it is what it is, I don't know, you know? - Well, one good thing about this entire debacle is that Theresa's getting a receding hairline. And I think that that's like a gift from God, you know? It's like she's finally stressed out enough to get a normal hairline. You can see it go in and do you know what's about time? - Congratulations, she has aged a lot in the past year. It is really showing on her. I mean, I'm sure all like years of sun damage did not help either, but it is all falling apart. I think she did something to her lips. There's something, she looked a little different, right? - Well, I think she was trying not to punch Andy because apparently he pulled cons, they were trying to sell for more money. I mean, there's so many rumors and Andy was denying that he paid this much money, but online it was saying that Andy paid like $350,000 for this interview, which almost paid the restitution. But then he was on Twitter saying, oh, there's so many lies about stuff today. Don't believe anything you're reading, so. - Bravo doesn't have that money. - No kidding, we don't pay that for our entire season of one of these shit shows. So I don't know about that, but I think that he just has her under contract. So I think he probably stopped her from making big money on other interviews because she's under contract in Bravo. So he not only did that, he asked really rude questions. And I don't know, it just seems, I get that you do that on the reunions and stuff, but I don't know, it's always, I guess that's what kind of has always bugged me about that whole thing. It seems like they should be on the housewife's side. And instead they're like cackling with Glee whenever something bad happens to one of them, you know? - Well, I did not mind that he asked rude questions because they committed fraud. And one thing that annoyed me is that when they tried to describe it, they still weren't really taking full responsibility. You know, they were like, "Well, you know, Teresa, well, Teresa goes." Her big lesson is like, "I do need to read things before I sign them." And you know, sometimes I need to learn about things and I need to know what's happening in my life. I'm like, like, no shit Sherlock. You know, it's called being an adult. But then, but she was like, "Yeah, I just, you know, I sign, you know, "what the banks would give us, you know?" And Joe was like, "Yeah, you know, well, you know, "you get something from the bank and, you know, "she had better credit than me, "so that I just have her sign it." I'm like, "No, no, no. "You committed fraud. "Don't act like you just got some forms from the bank "and it just happened to be a fraud in the situation." - No, you just sign it 'cause they give it to you and then you sign it. - And Andy did kind of calm on that a little bit. Not too aggressively, but he was kind of like, "Yeah, but you were committing fraud. "You were like, it's not just like, "you just got stuff from the bank." - Well, that stuff doesn't help me 'cause you should be asking those kind of questions during this interview. The things that bug me are when he says things like, "Oh, Joe, how much are your suits?" You know, because he's like, "Jurisa, you carried a $3,000 bag "and you're saying you're broke." And he's like, "Well, I didn't pay for that." And he's like, "Well, Joe, how much are your suits?" And he's like, "Ah, that's two full one "from the men's warehouse or whatever." - Joe actually wants it to know. Joe said, "How much do you pay?" And he's like, "Well, I pay taxes on my suits." You know, that's a cunty thing to say. And that's not the point. Like, you're not here to like be a cunt to Joe. Like, you're supposed to be a fucking interviewer. We're here to be cunced to Joe. But you're supposed to be like an interviewer. - No, you know what? I mean, I agree, but that's because they were trying to call out Andy. And one thing we know is that Andy does not like to be called out. He is the mom. - But he wasn't. He wasn't calling out Andy. Andy was being a bitch. He's like, "How much are your suits, Joe?" - No, no, Joe said, no, no, Joe said, he's like, "Ask me how much I paid for my suit." And so Andy's like, "Okay, how much did you pay "for your suit?" He's like, "Well, Joe, it came off questioning "where Andy was like, "Well, how much do you spend on this? "How much do you spend on that, man?" - I mean, if you can get me to feel defensive towards the judeices, you're really a fucking idiot. Because I think that those two are horrible. But Andy really had me on their side. 'Cause I feel like he was just being a fucking asshole. - I was not on their side. And in fact, I was also just getting, I was getting really angry that again, it was a situation where we're almost meant to feel sorry for them. And you start to feel sorry as they talk about their daughters, their daughters, their daughters. And it's like, "Gosh, that does suck. "And I feel so bad for the daughters." Oh, this is terrible. And I'm like, "No, no, these people did this." They committed, and they're like, "Well, it was years ago before the housewives. "Is it that makes any difference?" Like, you committed fraud. Like, you just, like, that's like unacceptable. - I mean, I felt bad for them. I felt sorry. - Sorry, sorry. - I felt bad for them. Well, you know, one time when I was having dinner with my father, he said he was feeding us spaghetti, and when he threw it at my mother's head, it was actually noodles made out of zucchini. Do you know how much that traumatized us? It was fraud. Okay. - Well, one time, Geraldine Parsons Smith came over, okay? And she said she was going to bring over some mozzarella, okay? But you know what, she brought over, she brought over some gouda, all right? And I said, "You know what, Geraldine Parsons Smith? "This is not mozzarella. "What you have done is you have defrauded me. "You have given me the wrong cheese. "I'm sorry, the wrong cheese. "Sorry." - Sorry. - Yeah, I mean, look, I feel bad because as dumb as they are and as idiotic as they are, you get to know them watching them on TV. I mean, I can stomach anybody out. I mean, Frankie Grande, I can stomach because I've seen him on the whole show, like 40 episodes of TV. Like, I could even stomach him at this point because I'm used to him. - I had it. Sidebar, I had a dream that Frankie Grande was in. I'm not gonna say I had a dream about Frankie Grande, but I dream I was watching a football game, and he was like a wide receiver on an NFL team, and he like caught a ball for a touchdown. And I was like, "Oh, fuck this guy. "He's gonna be so cocky, even more cocky than ever." That was my dream. - Oh my God, you said cocky and wide receiver in one sentence about Frankie Grande. You see what he drives us to? - I know. - The widest receiver out there. So, yeah, so I do feel bad for them to a degree, just because I know them and I feel bad about their kids and I don't want their kids growing up all trouble. Like, I feel bad. - I feel bad for the kids because the kids are innocent and all this. And, you know, it's terrible to be like young and you don't really know what's going on and your mom gets taken away. And then, you know, then your dad and then the article, I think actually I posted an article on our Facebook page, Facebook.com/WatchForCrapins. I posted an article written by a, I think it was a former assistant attorney general or current assistant attorney general detailing the case and saying that it's highly likely that Joe is going to be deported. Like, this is always I thought to me like an extreme thing, but apparently because Joe has now been found guilty of this like a major felony and because he has never been a citizen, the rules are that once you're done with your term, you have to be deported. And this assistant attorney general said that he's seen this happen many times where people have been a green card holder for all their lives. They don't have any family or attachments in their home country, but because they never applied to be a citizen, this is what happened. But what's said is that Joe had all this time to become a citizen to apply even after the charges came up. - Well, if that's the thing, I don't understand. I mean, there's like a lot of little points that we can go over with this, but the basic thing that got me from the entire show is how stupid they are. I mean, look, it's obvious that they're stupid. We know that, but they're really, really stupid. And I don't think that all of it was they didn't, I think a lot of it was they really didn't understand a lot of the things. Like when they're refiling their paperwork, they're about to be thrown in jail and they commit fraud on that paperwork too. And with hold and with hold. - They're laying on the lawyers. - And then they're saying it was the lawyers' fault and they're just doing whatever the lawyers said. And I'm like, wow, you guys are really dumb. And Teresa's Andy said, well, but Teresa, I don't understand why you would make a plea. Like why you would plea this out. - If you weren't guilty. And she's like, well, you know, I didn't know what it meant. And he said, what do you mean you don't know what it meant? She's like, I didn't know what that meant. Like what a plea meant. - I just thought it meant, you know, the lawyers just told me, you know, you say what it is. And then your lawyers are supposed to take care of you. And so I did it. I was like, oh my God. So it's like, she's basically putting yourself in that position. And I don't even know that it's bad legal advice because they're right. Of course your lawyer is going to tell you, look, you can get 30 years for each count and you've got 30 against you. So it might be better just to do a year, you know? But yeah, and I think I'm going to assume that the lawyers said, okay, we need to see X, Y, and Z and they gave them X and Y, you know, like, and the lawyers, if the lawyers can only control so much. - Uh oh, we're having a moment. ♪ A moment where I'm alone ♪ ♪ Waiting for Ben to come back to me ♪ ♪ Ben, come back to me ♪ - Okay, I'm here. - Okay, yeah, it worked. You see guys, whenever you're in doubt. - Musicals, musicals will solve everything. - So what I was saying was that if the lawyers ask for all the revenue and join Teresa only provide a certain amount, the lawyers don't know about another stream of revenue, then like, it's not the lawyers' fault, you know? I actually think the reason why they keep saying that they didn't realize, they didn't realize, we didn't know, I guess we have to learn. I think it's because they want to, for their kids, they don't want to create this impression that they did something bad. They want to just be like, oh, we were uninformed and let that be a lesson. Like, I actually feel like that's probably motivating for us. - Well, some of the favorite things that have been said in here was when Andy tells Teresa, did you learn anything? And she says, well, I don't read contracts every day, so I need to get better at that, which is hilarious because I can just imagine her in jail. And they're like, Teresa, do you need toothpaste? And she's just like, could you get me some contracts so I can practice? - I know, I need to leave you better with reading words on pages, stupid. - I love when she said how much she's changed. She's like, no, I would buy a used home. - Oh my God. It's like, for Teresa, she's so stupid. - So stupid, so stupid. By the way, I love Paula Jones, one of our listeners, where her comment on the article about why Joe get deported, she goes, I'd rather be deported to Italy, hashtag dream come true. And I'm like, yeah, actually, that's a wonderful thing. - Well, that's what I was kind of thinking about the Joe situation, was Joe's probably gonna let himself be deported on purpose because according to that article that was posted, he will get deported because you have to get deported when you have a felony and just a green card, you can't stay in the country. It's like against the rules. So I wouldn't be surprised if he's doing that on purpose just to get the hell out of here. I mean, the American dream's not really working out for Joe. - Apparently he thought the American dream was just like taking shit and rolling around in it. And unfortunately, it's not how it works. And he's probably like, fuck this, I'll just go live on a farm in fucking Italy for $10 and be done with it. - Or he can crash his car all he wants and drink five whiskey shots afterwards because you're so nervous. - Yeah, no one's gonna pull over his mule. - Yeah, by the way, another thing the article said was that one of the reasons why they got such a harsh sentence is A, because they were fraudulent in the things they had to turn in but right before the sentencing. And then also because the judge said, listen, I think Theresa, you're a very good mother, but you are a high profile case. And unfortunately, because you're high profile, we have to show people through your example that if you don't file your tax and do this or that, you will go to jail. And so one of our listeners, Gene Beaton, leave it, love it. Said, I feel bad for them because they're on Bravo TV, they are quote unquote, high profile, that's ridiculous. Make examples of the predatory lenders, why don't you? I want to see at least one go to jail for 41 months. - I don't disagree with that. But I think that's something that a lot of people, that basically anybody defending Joe and Theresa right now in comments, and this is on our site on Trash Talk TV, like anybody who's coming forward to defend them is saying the exact same thing. But what about the banks? They did it, no one cares. It's like, that's true. And we should do something about that, but we don't get to just all steal money from people. And they weren't just stealing money from banks. They were defrauding people. They were putting people out of business, small family businesses out of business because they were stealing from them and robbing them blindly. And you can't just say, like, oh, I care about their family, so we should get the banks instead. When they're ripping off other families and putting them out of business and ruining their lives. Like, that's not cool. It's not just a big bank with insurance, you know? - I also question our judicial system when they actually consider Bravo TV high profile. (laughing) - Well, in the judge's defense, she also said, "I was considering giving you a lenient sentence and then you lied again." - Yeah, I think that's really the hand of most of it. - The hand of most of it. It's like, you're making it impossible to be lenient with you because you keep fucking lying. They cannot tell the truth, you know? - It's, yeah. - Yeah, it's gross. But a couple of my other favorite anti-lines besides, what are you gonna do about your hair and makeup in prison? One of my other favorite ones was, Teresa, are you depressed because you seem depressed? - Really, Andy? She just got fucking sentenced to prison. You fucking fuckwit. And then he says, later on, he says, "But what about your temporary? So do you think you're gonna get into fights in the prison?" And she's like, "No." She looked like she was gonna fucking punch him in the face. She's like, "No." And he's like, "Really?" 'Cause you pushed me at that reunion. - Oh my god, Cracker, please, please. You're lucky you didn't get your ass beat at that reunion. You shouldn't have been standing up in, ah, ah, that guy makes me crazy. He makes me crazy, I can't. - And then Joe's like, "Yeah, what if a dike comes after you?" - Oh my god, these people. - For the record, she will lose her temper in prison and it'll be hilarious. - Yeah, it's gonna be amazing. Like, if any housewife is gonna go to prison and like be the queen of it, it's gonna be her. I wouldn't fuck with her. - Yeah. - She's from Patterson. Don't you forget, she's from Patterson, bitch. - Oh, and then he goes further and says, "She's like, "No, no, I'll be okay." And he's like, "But aren't you sad?" She's like, "I'll be okay." And he's like, "But you're not thinking how "I'm gonna be physically in this place for 15 months." Okay, Aaron, like enough. Like, I get it, you get my point, but Jesus Christ with her. And what happened to part two? Wasn't this a two-parter? - That's, part two is on Thursday. - Oh, I don't know, guys. I think, I mean, what else can they say? - Well, no, Andy's gonna ask Teresa if she's mad at Joe for putting her in that position. And he's also asked Joe about dictation. - Slow-sigh, slow-sigh. - Yeah. - That's what I've got. - Speaking of slow-sighs, should we talk about man's owed with children? - Yes. That is a really long sigh. - That is a long, drawn-out sigh. - A long, wheezy sigh. You know, so here are my impressions. I mean, here are my general impressions. I know you didn't ask for them, but I'm gonna give them to you anyway. - No, wait, hold on. Ben, what are your impressions? - Oh, oh. Thank you so much for asking, Ronnie. - Or-- - You were such a good co-host. - Yeah. - You were so good. - Okay, tell me. - You know, after the first half an hour was done, I was like, you know, as far as these sort of shows go, it's not the worst. It's not something I would normally tune in for, but it's, you know, it's fine. It's pleasant, it's enough, you know? But then, you know, 'cause it was like two episodes. By the time I was done with the second episode, I was like, this is too much. Like, I'm glad it's a half an hour. I could not watch like an hour's worth of this every week. And I also kind of feel like the show kind of feels like this family that thinks they're a lot more entertaining than they really are, you know? Like, they are entertaining compared to other families, but they seem to be like aware that they have these like hijinks and silly things. And they sort of think that everything they do is as entertaining to the rest of the world as it is to each other, you know? - I never understood that about this family, never. I mean, the first scene is them playing ball and the guys are like, oh yeah, you're touching my balls. - I mean, if we're gonna compare this to something like "Tardy for the Party," like, I like this, I don't know. I think I like this more than "Tardy for the Party," but then it seems to me-- - Oh, I don't. I mean, I think Kim Zolzia-- - I don't know. - A legitimately hilarious human being, like-- - That's the thing. So that's why I go back and forth. - She's legit funny, I think. - And it's funny because the first half an hour, the first show, I was like, you know, this is sort of getting back to the Caroline that I used to like back in the day. And in the second half an hour, I was like, oh fuck this bitch. Although, I did laugh when she was dangling on a trapeze. That, I was like the image of her, this meatball flying from one end to the other. That was funny. - I've always kind of liked Caroline. Like she, the only time I really didn't like her oddly enough was when she turned on Teresa, only because I felt like she didn't have a real reason. She just was jealous. And I was like, you're supposed to be above all this, and that's why I like you, and you're not above it. And you're like literally, like someone who's probably gonna go to jail, you're talking about her purse and like taunting her on TV, just like making references to her going to jail and then talking about how she's just gonna work it to get a spin off. Like she really turned into a nasty C word there towards the end of her run on Jersey. And then I kind of liked her again at the end because she had said, I don't remember where she said it, but she's like, yeah, I don't necessarily like what I saw last year. I saw myself become ugly and I didn't like that. And so she kind of renamed herself, and I like her in this show. It's just her family. Whee, sorry, boys, but-- - Well, I, I mean, I, again, the first half an hour was like the Caroline that I liked. That was the one that I always used to really enjoy on New Jersey. And the second half an hour, because the whole point of the second episode was that Caroline wants to lose weight, and she is like, but she doesn't like to actually work out. And then it turns out that she also just doesn't like to get out of her comfort zones. They send her a pair on a trapeze. So the thing is that the whole half an hour was her being like, I'm not gonna do it. I don't do that. I don't do that. That's just not me. I don't do that. And like, I kind of don't love pessimistic Caroline when she's just like, no, I won't do that. 'Cause that was the way she acted on the season of New Jersey when people started to say, you know what, I don't think I like Caroline anymore. I think people like Caroline when she's being nurturing and when she gives like real talk. I think people really like that when she, when she says it like it is. But when she's doing this sort of like pseudo funny, like, I won't do that. No, no, no. It's sort of like annoying. 'Cause people like that are not pleasant. - Yeah, I mean, I'm liking her. My problem is really her family. Like it starts off with the boys like, "Bakey bull jokes and the back at moms 'cause they're starting their black water business, which by the way is not just starting. It's just failing miserably. And they still don't have-- - They're not, are they back doing black, they said they're starting a new business, but I didn't realize it was black water. Is it black water again? - I assumed it was still black water. Do they have another business? - These guys are the worst entrepreneurs we've ever seen on Bravo. They have a new business every single year and that always, not only does it always fail, but the concept is always so flawed. It's like you know it's gonna fail hours away, I mean. - And then Greg calls and calls. - Yeah, we had a gay friend when he was, when it was, when it wasn't cool. Yeah, yeah, gay guy, what's up gay guy? And Greg's like, I want a party. They don't know how to party in San Francisco. I'm like really Greg, they don't know how to party in San Francisco, are you crazy? And then it goes to Lauren, who has a shoot in Glamour Magazine because of who her mother is, which is really fucking retarded. Who wants to get Glamour Magazine to see Lauren Manzo? That is not glamorous, especially with a whole episode is about how she sweats from her pits too much. And she has to get both Botox and her pits. Like how was that Glamour, Glamour you sold out? - I know, how about like, I could see that being like a centerfold of like, egg salad quarterly, but not Glamour Magazine. - Mm-hmm. - Like cat fantasy. - Oh god. - The Caface newsletter. - And when she's like, "I feel like Carrie Bradshaw dating a fat guy doesn't mean you're dating Mr. Big, all right? You're just marrying a fat guy. Stop calling yourself Carrie Bradshaw, you dumb hulk. Get the hell off my scream, Lauren. - Yeah, stupid. - I mean, I did feel bad when she told stories about crying in the dressing room when she was 16. And you know that whole story that they tried out like a-- - Oh, give me a fucking break. You know, fat pieces-- - Well I feel bad for her. - I don't feel bad for her. That's too fucking mad. - She was 16. - I'm so sick of it. - So what, I was a fat teenager. I'm still a fat adult. I know it can hurt your feelings, but being fat is not an affliction. If you don't wanna be fat, lose some fucking weight. It's like, you're sitting there crying in the dressing room, but all you had to do was jog around the block. And listen, I tell myself the same thing when I'm feeling sorry for myself about my weight. I'm sick of people using that as like some personality. Being fat is not your personality, okay? Being insecure maybe got you fat and you can work on that. But being fat is not a personality trait. It's a physical trait. So stop making your whole fucking life about you being a victim because you're fat. It's not like you were born with two heads or one leg or cancer or something else, okay? There are people with real problems in the world. Stop fucking crying about having too much to eat you cow. - And the truth is that now that she's lost weight, she's actually like her personality is not the best. It's like a little spoiled and obnoxious. - I think it was the same when she was fat, but you kind of understand it. You know, like I'm a total bitch and when I'm fat, people are more accepting of it than when I'm thin. And that's the truth. - She had a bad attitude when she was fat. Like she definitely did and she was like a downer and she was annoying and she was mean and she was surly. But now she's kind of like all those things with the added element of that I just lost weight, ego-tism, you know? - Yeah. - It's a little bit of that. A little cockiness going on there. - Yeah, it's like when you lose five pounds and you're like, "Oh my God, everyone's so fat. Why can't they lose five pounds? I get it." - Yeah, like totally normal. I do that every time I lose five pounds, by the way. I get really judgmental about other people and then I fuck like 20 strangers. 'Cause I'm like, "Oh, no!" It's like, "No, you're not. You lost five pounds and you still have 100 to go, so stop it." - Yeah, every time I'm starting to feel like I'm looking really good, I'm like happy and then like I like transform the mirror and then I like wind up in bad lighting and then everything is destroyed. And I'm like, "No, no, my body just Morpheus back." - Well, it turns out that Ross Dress For Less sells really skinny mirrors because at home I look so cute. I don't, you know how like anorexia people have body dysmorphia? I don't have that. I have it in reverse where I look at myself and I'm like, "There's nothing wrong. I look great." And then I'll pass myself, like the other day I was passing Subway and they have kind of a mirrored window and I was like, "Holy crap Delta Burke, when did you get in town?" - Yeah, my biggest challenge are cars on Park Down the Street because in my apartment I swear to God, my mirrors are very flattering. I'm like, "Damn, I'm like, look at this. Look at me, I'm getting everything in order." I like the way I look. I walk out on the street on like a sunny day and I look and there's like a car park and I see my reflection in the window and the window is curved so it like exaggerates everything and everything looks all wrong and my chest looks like massive man boobs and then the way the sun comes directly down, the shadows hit everything wrong and I just basically wanna go running for shelter. - Yeah, if I was in the government I would ban car windows 'cause I hate them too. - Yeah, it's terrible. - Or make them like invert it or something. - I know, they will destroy your day. If you see yourself in a car, like it just exaggerates everything that you don't want to be exaggerated. - Could you imagine how valets feel? Like having to look at that many car windows all day long? - I probably had like so miserable. Like, "Oh, I'm so bad." - Yes, I'm sure that's exactly what makes them the most miserable. (laughing) - That's exactly what valets complain about the most. - Oh, by the way, while we're talking about fat people, do you know what also really bugs me about this storyline, is storyline. The storyline, that's Coraline's sister. - Is when Caroline stops about it. It makes me crazy 'cause it's not like it's the first time and she's always like, "Oh, I remember when Lauren was fat." (laughing) Shut up. You were the one who kept squeezing mannies down her throat and she was a baby. What are you complaining about? I hate when mom's mad at all about them. Like, "Oh, poor you, you have a fat kid." Shut up, Caroline. - I think season one of Real Housewives, Lauren was on an all-sterial diet. I'm not even joking. I think there was like a scene where she was like buying cereal. She's like, "It's my new diet, you eat only cereal." I was like, "Yeah, that's great." - I've done that one. I got just fine for you. - I did not want it. He kind of worked. My doctor said I was pretty diabetic, though, by the end of it. Hey, you know, it's just a minor trade-off. - Yeah, Caroline, my mom was like that. She would like take me to all the different diets. She sent me to diet camp. I got fatter. She took me to all these medical things. And I remember when Caroline did that with her, she took her to see Dr. Prager. Wasn't it Dr. Prager? She went to see some famous diet doctor. - I don't know, remember. - He's like a young lady. Here's what you need to do. Eat egg whites. That's it. She's like, "Oh, I could do that." She went home. And just ate egg whites. Moved didn't really work out. - Dietings. - Well, I think it's also probably hard if you are living with your mother, you're trying to lose weight and living with your mother and you have a mother who refuses to work out and doesn't appear to have any healthy habits. Like, that's hard. - Right, I'm sure that they weren't taught healthy habits. Like, they're all chunky except for Albie. And he'll be healthy there. You can see it. He's pretty cheap. - Well, you know, Lauren, here's what Lauren needs to do. She needs to move out. She needs to get her own apartment because, A, she is like 35. Or how I feel like she is. She's probably like 23. But also, when you live on your own and you have to buy your own groceries, you can actually, you know, theoretically control a lot of like the food that you're eating. You know, if it's not foolproof, but if you keep your kitchen stock with healthier items, that's helpful. - Man, I don't mean that. - Fat people, being fat, being overweight, it's never easy to lose weight. It's gonna be something that's gonna be sucky and awful for your whole life because no matter how much you get it under control, you're always gonna crave a piece of pizza. And I feel for her, I'm a loser on that, but. - No, I get that but it isn't. - I just don't want to be crying about it, you know? But no, that's a separate issue. I'm just saying, wouldn't it be better if you were in a place where there weren't like a giant like five gallon thing of cheesy poops, you know, lying around? - No, like you would think so, but when you live alone, there's no, you don't have your mother there judging you when you buy a red velvet cake at two in the morning at Ralph's. You know what I mean? - Yeah, I guess that's true. - I live alone, like I'm fatter than ever. So I think it's because I can close my blinds at night and put Bueller in his crate and face it away from me so I could just be alone with my TV and my food. And it's fun, it's a hobby, but yeah, it's, I don't know. Maybe I'll get one of, no. I was thinking 'cause we met that girl at Leah's house who had like, it wasn't lap band surgery, but she had some. - Yeah, she had like a sleeve, it got a sleeve. - And I was gonna get it, but then she described it to me and basically you can only eat a bite at a time and you only eat like four or five bites a day or you throw up or something. And I was like, no, I need to eat a red velvet cake. - It's cheap, yes. I'm not doing that. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like it really changes your, you basically sacrifice the act of breaking bread with people for the rest of your life. - Yeah, I mean, it's me, yeah. - Vinging is an only a disease, it's also a hobby. And I'm just not ready to give that it. - Yeah. - But thanks Lauren for giving me another opportunity to talk about my eating disorder. - The manzos. - All right, by the way, I am so hungry. I am so hungry. - Oh, you're gonna be just fine. Eat some egg salad. - I don't have an apple. I went apple picking this weekend, so I've got like 10 pounds of apples in my fridge. - I just threw an apple away. It just sat there for like a week and a half. - Oh. - Great, sorry, okay, aren't you glad we're here doing this? - Why don't we move on to another show? - Oh, okay. - Which one do you want to go to now? - That anger sapped me. All my anger is sapped from the manzos. - Well, we have... - Thanks a lot, jerks. Oh, by the way, I don't know if we're necessarily committing to watching manzos with children. Yeah, we haven't really talked about that one yet. You guys let us know what you think. Is it worthy? If you think so, tell us on our page. - If we go up to two episodes, then we'll cover it for sure, but for right now with one episode, I'm not sure that... - I don't think that that's a way to get people to try and get a few episodes. (laughing) - That's true. Like listen, if you have a second episode, we will cover the shitty stuff that no one wants to watch. - Yeah. - So you're welcome. - Duck Dynasty it is. Okay, so next up, what else do we have this week? The Real Housewives of Mailbint and the Real Housewives of New Jersey. - And below dank. - Oh, and below dank as well. - Can we do Real Housewives of Mailbint because it was so entertaining, as usual as the reunion episode, and I took a lot of notes. - They didn't show two parts, right? - Yeah, only one part. - Okay, good. - So the first thing I thought was hilarious was that when the reunion started, they did this new thing that they've been doing now where the women, they show the women pulling up to the sound stage, and they're like not in any makeup. Their hair is all wet from a shower, and they walk in and you hear the voiceovers of being like, I'm just gonna say it like it is. And like everyone shows up looking like shit. And then Gina pulls up and she's like all glamorous rhinestones, hair all done up, classic Gina. - Yeah, she shows up and she's already done it. She just has like a little bag with like a magazine in it. - Yeah. - Everyone else brings like three suitcases, which is hilarious because they all accuse her of being a drag queen and too much about her appearance and this and that. When she just, she came ready to go. - Yeah, that correct me up. And then we finally met the, I'm gonna assume the Andy Cohen of Australia, Mr. Alex Perry, who by the way, I think he's-- - Oh my goodness. - I think he's had more work than any of the women on that stage. - That work. It was like watching Gollum go down a rollercoaster on the downhill part where all your skin is being blown back. It looked like-- - Oh god, and he had like these weird fillers that made his eyes squinty. It was just like a disaster. - His lip infections, his everything, everything is wrong. Look, when you're getting older, you do not look younger with plastic surgery. You just look crazy, okay? Especially men. - Yeah, especially, I mean, that was just like, abs, the sky, absolutely absurd. And then on top of that, he wore sunglasses on his head the entire time. - Oh, like with this guy. - You're inside. Like, this is an intentional accessory that you're doing. It looks so ridiculous and douchey. Oh, awful. - Well, my first thought was at least Fox tells Gaze or is horrifying as Bravo's gaze. It's at least fair. - I know. I know, and he seemed so uncomfortable at first. He was sitting at the edge of his seat and he was like all stiff. - It was just... - Well, he's not the Andy Cohen of Australia. They don't have one because Andy Cohen was like a producer on all these shows, and that's why everybody has to kiss his ass. 'Cause he was like one of the heads of the network or whatever. This guy's not. He's like a judge on the Australian version of top model and what was his other credit. Like, he does shit like that. And oh, he's a designer. He's a couture designer. - Yeah, I think it was something like that. - Yeah, so he's like a legit person, but they're just like, oh, just get a fabulous gay to come be Andy Cohen. And then he shows up with fucking sunglasses on his head. Well, the interesting news, I actually looked him up 'cause I was like, this guy's the worst and I wanted to know about him. So I looked him up and he had to shut down his Twitter after he did this reunion because people were attacking him and saying that he was condoning bullying and he's supposed to be an advocate against bullying. And he was... - Wow. - And he was right there in the middle of bullying people. And I was like, what? - That's crazy. - And like, encouraging the women to bully each other. I'm like, that's what... - Oh, please. - That's what you do at a reunion. You hand them baseball bats and you stand back. - And by the way, none of the stuff at the reunion or any reunion is bullying. Okay, bullying is when you like go up to someone and you like taunt them and you pants them, you know, you just, you know, having a disagreement, fighting with people is not the same as bullying. - Well, the ladies are condoning and of course, it sees awful whores. - Andrea and Lydia. - Andrea and Lydia. They're alleging that jeanors, jeanors fans went all crazy on them and had, we're attacking them on Twitter and it got real bad on social media. And one of my favorite things that Andrea said, because Andrea is trying to act all nice in this, which is absolutely hilarious 'cause it doesn't work. - And by the way, her hair looks really good. I will give her that. I can't see, once I've seen a heart that black, I see nothing else. I only saw black heart. But one of my favorite moments was when she was like, well, you know, they're people on social media who come out, they attack you and they're crazy. And jeanors has a bunch of fans that are crazy, but I'll tell you, I turned a couple of trolls when I just explained things to them. I turned a bunch to my side. Like shut up, you did not fucking shut up. What are you gonna put people on your side? You have nothing. She's like, well, she was like, and they're like, oh, you're right, Andrea. Good one, Andrea. Way to sway the masses, babe. - She, Andrea, cracked me up because the whole episode, anytime jeanors pretty much said anything, Andrea's whole thing was that she would try to shame her. She goes like, oh, jeanors, that's awful. You awful person for saying that. - Oh, jeanors, that's a terrible thing human being for saying that, jeanors. - Jeanors, that's terrible, that's terrible. - You have to be yourself. And every time they'd be like, well, you know, jeanors a whore. You know, jeanors is a terrible person. She asks her children to sleep around, and then jean would be like, well, they sleep with you. And she'd be like, oh, jeanor, what a terrible thing to say. What a terrible thing to say, jeanor. (laughing) A little bit of friendly advice for your jeanor. Don't say just terrible things. What do you call someone who says, hey, here's one for you. What do you call someone who says terrible things? Jeanor. (gasping) - Yeah, they were really ready to go at jeanor, and jeanor just didn't give a fuck. I mean, we talked about this last week. She did not take the Lisa Vanderpump route where you just like, just act like a victim, cry a little bit, and get everybody on your side. She was like, go suck yourself off, you dumb slag. (laughing) She was like, get an insignificant ass hair. Actually, one of my favorite things that jeanor did, I mean, she, (laughing) jeanor does, that's so hilarious, is that she truly does not give a fuck. So when they showed footage of her saying like, oh, she's a moron. You see her watching the footage and goes, I didn't say that, I didn't say that, I don't use that word, I didn't say that. But jeanor, you just saw footage of yourself. She's like, nope, I didn't say it. (laughing) Oh, jeanor, you're terrible. Isn't that a line from Muriel's wedding? - Yeah, Muriel. - Muriel. - You're terrible. (laughing) - Yeah, that was hilarious. They're like, jeanor, do you remember when you called her a moron? No, I didn't clip of jeanor calling her a moron. I never said that. - Jeanor, we just saw you on the tape. - Nope, I didn't say it. I wouldn't use that word moron. I don't even like that word moron. - You moron? - I never say the word moron. - You stupid moron? - You stupid moron. - Oh my God. - I love, I'm just gonna kind of start at the beginning of notes 'cause there is so much in this. But one of my favorite things was Andy, whatever. What should we call him? I don't know his name. - Alex, Alex Perry. - Alex, so when Alex is like, well, what do you think Lydia when it suggested by some of the house was that you don't do anything all day long but sit around and act rich? She's like, well, I actually graduated. I graduated from school and I've got a degree now in interior design and my husband lets me look at his hotel that he's building. So I go there and I look at it and you know there you have it. - Oh my God. - So what, you walk into a construction site and now you're a fucking designer, shut the fuck up. And it doesn't count if your husband gives you the job, you slag. - Yeah. As a recent graduate, I know how to do interior design and that's a job in and on itself. Just knowing how to do it. - Yeah, just knowing how. Andrea is afraid for her children because of all of Gina's fans. She's afraid for her children and all the bullying that's been going on. - Please. I like to when Andrea started to cry, she started to tell a story about how, you know, she's like, you know, there was a time when we didn't really have that much money in the bank when we had to, we had to, we overdrafted and she started to cry. She was like, it's just, it's so odd. It's like, you don't have to cry about the fact that you were poor ones. Like, it's okay, we know you're wealthy now. Like, it's not, it's not a chink in your armor. Like, don't cry about it. She's like, there was one time when I didn't have enough money in my wallet and it was really hard for me. - This is Andrea. It's like every day for the rest of us. She's like, I remember one time I wanted a car and I couldn't afford it and I had to drive my old car. - Oh, boy. - There's a bit of friendly advice. Stop making me cry. (laughing) Just want to give some advice, you know? - Oh, and I love her when she's, this is like when she's on her whole reputation, fixer to her, so she's like, yeah, see, I was poor. She's like, and everyone accusing me of fat, you know, they were talking about glam or something. He's like, what about glamor? What about fashion? You all love fashion. And she's like, actually, I don't wear designer clothes. I wear normal clothes that normal women would find in normal places. I don't see the need to find expensive things to wear 'cause I'm normal. I'm just one of the people. I'm a working mom. I don't need expensive clothing. I'm a working mom. - And you know what? You know what? I believe her because there's no way she paid more than $10 for that ugly ass shit white lace thing that she wears every interview segment. - That thing is so nasty. There is no way that-- - I think that's actually an Australian designer because in the article where I was reading about Alex getting bullied, the news people he was talking to in this article, one of them was wearing that exact same outfit. The news lady was wearing that same outfit. And I'm like, oh my god, either that's a hand me down 'cause Andrea used to be a news reporter. Or this is like popular in Australia. - Oh, and by the way, this is-- - You never know when fashion's gonna show up somewhere. - I met a Jewish lady the other night wearing one of those silk shirts that are see through but then you're wearing a t-shirt under. When did that come back? - Yeah, it's back. And by the way, you mentioned that Andrea's a reporter. This is a nice way to plug her on. Someone posted footage of her. Well, it was actually, she was being interviewed on a show and they showed footage of her as a reporter. That video is someone. This episode is sponsored by DoorDash. We're back to tell you more about the latest Dash Pass annual plan benefit streammax with ads included at no extra cost. - You know what's a great night for us? 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Sorry, your plug was dead. Then your plug was killed by the internet. - I can't believe Skype killed the plug. All I was saying was that if you want. - You should say it. - I think Skype is sick of people. - He footage of Andrea. (laughs) - You see Skype? You see audience Skype keeps cutting off pool bin. Ben, it was just trying to plug the Patreon page. Pool, pool, bin. Oh, by the way, when I was. (silence) - Day. - Oh. - Can I hear you? I think I'm back. - Welcome back from In Emission Bin. We had a nice break talking crap about you on the podcast. - Oh yeah, I'm here. Anyway, I'm not gonna try to plug that again 'cause every time I do it, disaster. Can we talk about Chica's husband who left that really weird view? - Well, I'm glad about. Okay, is Chica's husband a producer on the show or something? What was that? I'm on. (silence) (silence) (silence) (silence) (silence) (silence) (silence) (silence) (silence) (silence) (silence) (silence) (silence) - Hello. - Hello there bin. Welcome back. I've been talking to myself about Chica's husband. - Oh, God. - I'm trying to look up on the internet. If you have anything playing in your background there on the internet, if you've got your internet open, if you've got any kind of internet-y things, you better turn them off now, bin. - Well, I have the internet open, but that's about it. - Well, you keep cutting out bin. And I know it's you because there's white dots pointing at your head here while I'm looking at the podcast page. - Oh, yeah? There's a white dot pointing at my head. Let me give you a little friendly advice. Let me give you a little friendly advice. I'm going to shut down my browser. Maybe that'll help things out a little bit. - Bin, I was telling everyone how I went to a Yom Kippur party this week, and that's how I saw a Jewish lady in a see-through shirt bin. - Oh, wow. Let me give you a little friendly advice. - They have wonderful bin. They have wonderful parties. They know how to binge bin. - Let me give you a little friendly advice. - Yeah. - Next time I want to see some fashionable Jews, go to a fashionable Jewish party. - Oh. - Oh, wait. So Chica's husband Bruce had this weird moment in the middle of the reunion where he, like, he recorded something that they aired because I'm sure they reached out to him and they were like, do you want to be on the reunion? And he's probably like, well, I'm in Boston. So, but let me record something. And it was this weird toast to the ladies. And he's like, Andrea, you could be the juggler. Gina, you're the lawyer. And I'm like, what is this? It's like this extended circus metaphor about all the women. It was so weird. - Yeah. He's like, hello, everybody. This is like American Horror Story Frick show. All right. We've got the two-headed monster, which is Andrea. Andrea. Both of you. All right. Ben, are you still there? - I'm here. - Who else is on Frick show? Chica. Chica, you're just like Kathy Bates. I say that because she's got most of the same dresses that you do, Chica. And you've got kind of a beard like Kathy Bates. - Yeah. - Yeah. - She's just like Kathy Bates. I say that because she's got most of the same dresses that you do, Chica. And you've got kind of a beard like Kathy Bates. Doesn't freak show, but I still love you. And the good thing about having a gay husband is gay people love Kathy Bates darling. All right, everybody. Welcome back. Sorry about the technical difficulties. I blame Gina because she's a horrible human being. - Gina, I can't believe you did that to the podcast. That's just terrible, Gina. - Gina, that was your fault talking about dirty things. Saying awful things about people. Having people bully us on the social media, Gina. - Gina, that's how awful what an awful person for doing that to Skype, Gina. - Yeah, Gina. Right in the middle of my American horror story comparisons, Gina. - Gina, how awful. - Gina, you're terrible, Gina. (laughing) - What am I saying? - What am I saying? My favorite thing was the Lydia's sex life montage where Lydia's talking about boning her old scuzzy husband. Okay, now here's the deal. I don't care if you're married to somebody who's older than you. I don't care if you're married to a turtle. I'm one of those people. You know, you can have 10 wives. I don't care. My thing is when you just marry an old man for money and then you try and pretend you did it because he's hot. He is not hot. You married that old fucker because of his money. No young, beautiful woman wants to be walking in the mall and tripping over to their husband's balls. Okay? You were totally dating him for his money. Stop fronting. You already told us you had to sign in your marital contract that you'd fuck him whenever he wants to. So please, you're just basically a whore. And when Gina says that you married a man for his money and you're basically an institutionalized whore, she's telling the damn truth. Stop getting so offended. Miss private plane to get cheese, but can't pronounce half the words you say. Stupid. And thinks the Louvre is in London? Stupid. Stupid. She's like, I don't have to clean my hands. That's for someone else. I ride that half-hard pole half two times a day. It smells like the cheese I buy on the private plane. I earned what I've got. You think that's not work? It's still just professional, right? She nods her head up and down. She nods. That's what I'm doing while I talk. Can you hear it in the microphone? I'm not in my head. I like to win Andrea on part of her "Like Me" tour, which is trying to make people like her. I like to when she starts trying to become relatable and talk about how she's really like... You know, she's done the struggle. She knows how to like... She knows how to like... No one realizes how hard it is when she's trying to raise some children. She's just trying to raise some children. And Gina's like, "Well, I think in many ways..." Actually, I'm sorry. I think in many ways that we're the equivalent of each other. Except I'm doing it with no husband and but two kids. And Andrea hated that. And just like... Totally stole Andrea's struggling mom gift. Yeah, you're not a struggling mom when you have five nannies. Oh, and I love Andrea. He's like, "Yes, but don't you have five nannies?" People have given you a lot of trouble on social media, which I love that Twitter has this. Twitter was basically built to abuse housewives, which I think is hilarious because it's the only show I've ever heard it mention this much. But anyway, he's like, "No one likes you have all those nannies." And she's like, "Listen here. I don't have five nannies. What I have are five college girls who are in college that I can call on day and night to do whatever I please." And he's like, "Oh, all right. Well, that makes sense." And she's like, "You see?" And he's like, "Oh, totally understand, babe." Thanks for clearing that up, Andrea. Much better. Yeah. Yeah. I also thought... Gina, I mean, Gina was hilarious. That's really because she had a good comeback for everything like when Andrea was like, "You've got a vulgar mouth." And she's like, "You've got a vulgar heart." You know, I love that. And then when they showed the segment of Gina putting down everyone, and it was like this extended montage of Gina just making fun of every single housewife. And she was like, "Oh, she's stupid. She's an instant image. She's an idiot. She's a twat. She's a twit. It's just one after the other. They're all being taken down, including Jackie." She was like, "Well, Jackie, she should just go back to the eastern borough where she came from, whatever she said." And then afterwards, Andrea's like, "Again," she goes, "That's a terrible thing to say, Andrea. You called her a booger." There was some slang going on. I didn't even understand it. They're called each other like boogers or something like that, or boogers or... It's terrible. It's terrible. That's awful. How could you say something so terrible? That's terrible. That's Lydia. Why could you do something like that, Gina? Oh, there you are, Gina. Disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. They showed that clip where she's like, "Oh, your sons are going to be fucking on this couch." And she's like, "No, I don't want to talk about it." And he's like, "Well, why didn't you want to talk about your sons fucking on the couch?" And she's like, "Because the middle-aged woman talking about my children is kind of disgusting to me." And then he's like, "Sex with children isn't disgusting. What a vulgar thing to say, Gina. How vulgar." Gina, you're terrible. That's a terrible thing to say. Oh, Gina. A lot of times they would always start with, "Oh, Gina! Gina! Oh, Gina's just like, "Oh, fuck off, Twat. Oh, suck my dick. I don't give a shit what you sing." Janet was the only one who seemed to have like a sense of humor about it. Like when they showed the footage of Gina calling her a twit, Janet like slapped her on the thigh. I was like, "Oh, you stop there right now." But the rest of the like, everyone was just like shocked. Yeah, but Janice, the one who started everything. So I think at some point, she just has to have a sense of humor. Because she's, you know, I mean, people could have been a lot meaner to Janet than they were, frankly. And they weren't, you know, they were nice stories. They helped her cross the street instead of, they helped her along the crosswalk instead of pushing her down. Yeah, something. Well, I don't think that Janet, Janet's had met Edler, but ultimately she's a nice person. So I think that's what came out. I was like, "Yeah." I don't really know what the proof is that she's a nice person, but she's at least fun. She seems nuts. Yeah. So at least smile and take you to lunch while she's stabbing you in the back. Thanks, Janet. Thanks a lot, Janet. You know what I call Janet? You know what I call Janet? A generally nice person who might stab you in the back once in a while. Oh! Hey, Janet. Let me give you some friendly advice. Next time you talk to me, talk to me. Ah! Oh, look at that chair. You know what Gina's going to do with that chair? She's going to sit in it. Oh! Hey, Gina. Nice shoes. Looks like you've been wearing them on your feet all day long. Oh! Oh! That's disgusting what you did to those shoes, Gina. How you put them on your feet like that. Oh, Gina. I can't believe you put your dirty feet in those shoes. Shoes aren't meant to fit. Oh, Gina. Have vulgar. Those poor shoes. You're a bully. You know, I'm only doing this show to show my children how to stand up against bullying. OK. OK, Andrea. You have fun next year. Doing nothing, and your husband's office acting like you're working when you're trying to get your Spanx tie. OK. I just finished my up, by the way. I really hope you guys couldn't hear me chewing it. I was trying to chew away from them. I heard it, man. I heard that apple bean. Oh, bean. Oh, bean. Oh, bean. How awful. I can't believe you're eating in people's ears. I'm sorry. I want to talk about real half-wise of New Jersey. Oh, Ronnie. Oh, Ronnie. How awful. How awful Ronnie. What a horrible hideous person. All right, so we do have our own version of that. And something that this is too late segue, which I could have worked in earlier, but I didn't. It's when I was reading that article about Alex complaining about how he had to leave Twitter because people were bullying him. Yeah. He was like, you know, these Australians shows nothing. You know, I mean, on a scale of one to ten, Melbourne is probably at a six. Most of the other in the franchise at three times is bad, which would put them on a scale of 18, by the way. But then I watched Jersey and I was like, yes, yes, you're correct. We are at least three times as bad as that. I mean, in all of Melbourne, what were the fights? Someone didn't believe in a psychic. They didn't believe in psychic abilities, right? Someone was late. Someone used the word cunt privately in a bathroom. Someone had the improper footwear on a tennis court. And that was pretty much it, right? I mean, that was like the entire controversy of the entire season. So Jersey, someone's fucking someone's mom. Oh my god. Yeah. All right, already. You already win, okay? Yeah. So they're still in Boca, which every time I see that, I just start laughing. Because I love that the Bravo's got that cheap. They're like, well, we just sent the other girls to Bali. So Jersey can go to Boca. [LAUGHTER] My pictures in your mansion come from Home Depot. You're in trouble. Okay, I've seen those. [LAUGHTER] I've seen those light switches. Yeah. It was a pretty low rent vacation. And not only that, their mansion was like part of like a planned community around a little lake. Like the next houses were like next door. It was like not quite a getaway. Yeah. That was like a timeshare. But we didn't get to see Joe shirtless, which I liked. Joe Gorga is getting Joe Giudice a little bit. He's sort of turning into like, he's still muscular. Yeah. It's like he's not coming under the muscle. So it's just puffing him out, which, hey, it's still fine by me. Yeah. I wouldn't suggest something. No. Yeah. That's a good rule of thumb for all of them, really. Because he kind of looks like kind of the same Joe Gorga. It looks like somebody put tracing paper over Joe Gorga's face, spilled tea on it and then traced it. Like it doesn't look right. There's something weird looking at. It's puffy. There's like puffy in orange. It's puffy, but it's also like crinkly and burned. It looks burned. It looks like he's had three third degree burns. He's turning himself into Freddy. Yeah. [LAUGHTER] Lots of burning going on there. Joe Gorga's tan lotion. Being all our dreams. We'll stay young forever. All right. Fine. Okay. You should learn from this, sir. Amber and Jim have just arrived at Belka. And they're already starting shit. Bobby went to hide in the bathroom. And one of the funny things I read on Twitter this week, I don't even remember who said it. I'm sure one of you can remind me in the comments. But someone on Twitter suggested, and it was some celebrity too, suggested that Bobby ran into the bathroom to erase texts from this mystery girl, which I think is a very good theory, because Bobby did immediately run to the bathroom the minute some other girl was brought up, locked himself in there and would not come back until pictures and texts were erased. And such a weird tactic to run into the bathroom. Yeah. So bizarre. And then the girl was trying to get him out. The whole thing was very strange. I like that theory a lot. I do too. I think it's dead on. And I love that stupid girl that he's dating. I don't remember which one it is. But one of the told. I don't like how you went to the bathroom to take that cool, because you should have been talking to me. You're in the bathroom. Okay. Why is that an explanation? If I had a colada, if I had a colada for every time he went to the bathroom, every time I needed him, oh man, I would have the most coladas in the world. I'd be Lord Manto size by now. I would be the Donald Trump of coladas. You can make a state called colada state, North colada. And I'd be the president of the state. Even though states don't have presidents, I'd be the president. So I love that Amber is supposedly not standing behind what Jim is saying. So Jim basically tells everybody off and then drops the bomb. Oh, well, you're fucking your, your husband fucked your mom or whatever. Yeah. So then everybody freaks out and Amber is wasted at this point. And obviously they were passing something around this party that was not just alcohol. Because we know, but we don't know. This is allegedly, of course, thank you, Kathy Griffin. But it's, it seems as though Melissa and Joe have found their way to the glass pipe store. Cause those two, their eyes are always doing something fucked up. And they're always messed up on something. And I'm thinking there was a little coke or something being passed around. Because Amber was not only shit faced, she kept licking her lips and adjusting her jaw and doing a lot of coke kind of things. So I'm wondering if they got her ass cooked up and then just watched her go. Cause she was crazier than Amber. And then she was like, she's having a cigarette. She's like, I'm having a cigarette. You see this? I'm having a cigarette. I haven't had a cigarette since, I don't know how many years since the cancer. How many years since cancer? Huh? I'm having a cancer cigarette. I have cancer. I have cancer. Look at me. I'm having a cigarette. Look at that. It's a cigarette. Look at me. I'm having a cigarette. Look at me. I'm having a cigarette. Look at me. I'm having a cigarette. Look at me. I'm having a cigarette. I had a cigarette. I had a cigarette. My favorite Amber moment. I had a cigarette. My favorite cancer moment, though, was when they finally get kicked out. Dina asked them to leave and she's like, I came here to celebrate my good test results with these people and they don't even appreciate it. I know. Like Amber was doing everybody a favor by bringing her almost cancer story line into this event. Delusional cow. Bye. Enjoy your one season. Bye. Please leave my TV forever. But meanwhile, she and Jim had a weird moment. Like after she brought Jim upstairs, they were in the room and she was crying at him. But then they were like laughing, which made me wonder. They're fucked up. How much? Well, they were definitely fucked up. And I wonder how much of this was sort of staged by them. Like they had planned to do this. Because they were like laughing. They were laughing. Yeah, they're laughing about it. And she's just repeating herself over and over, sitting on the bed with her legs, like spread wide open, like airing her vagina at him. And then her makeup, she had so much makeup on, it was like that drunk girl section of the night, which Lord knows I've got enough of a microop. Like three in the morning, they're, once they crinkled their heads enough, they've got those big makeup lines on their face. And their face looks like it's made out of clay and it's cracking. And they just look fucking crazy. And you just know that he just wanted to go away, but he couldn't. Yeah. And it was just a wonderful, wonderful thing to watch. He's like, "Can you believe? I'm only, only, only, blah, blah, blah." And he's like, "Yeah, babe. Please, put your legs in." And she's like, "You know, Joe's, my husband's tough. He goes to war every day." He's in mortgages. What fucking war is going to every day? All I know is that if she were really pissed at Jim, there would have been no discussion. She would have like, it would have been silent treatment. But the fact that they were still sitting there and then laughing, I was like, obviously, she didn't care. She liked it. Yeah. Obviously, Jim has to bring up fucking the mom because she doesn't want to get in trouble for it again. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But something interesting, when they come out with that you're fucking your mom stuff, no one really denied it, everyone said, you're disgusting, you're disgusting, what a disgusting thing to say. And then they got mad at Deena, which was sort of strange, that that like didn't make sense to me, like, "You shouldn't have been talking, it should have been dead. It would have been dead. You shouldn't have been talking about it at all. I'm mad at Deena for perpetuating." It's like, "What?" No, Deena, I mean, Deena shouldn't have gone involved, but it's not really Deena's fault. And in fact... Actually. Well, I mean... Well, no. I mean, I agree. It's not normal. If you had a secret about me and you didn't want to hurt my feelings by telling me, that would be you being a good friend. But if we're on a reality show and you're talking about it every episode on camera and I don't know about it, but you're still perpetuating this rumor by saying that my husband fucked my mom over and over, that's not being cool. Okay, that's a good point. That's different. That's a good point. For Deena to roach it last week, when Deena heard about it, she was like, "Okay, whatever." I swear you're saying, "Yeah." Because being on a... It's like... I wasn't considering the fact that every time Deena talks about it, it's on camera and that perpetuates it. So, yes, I understand that. And then they can't stand ourselves. But the whole thing was... But the whole thing was... Mostly. I mean, if Deena really liked her, she would have been like, "Terisa, what?" Okay. I'm calling the girls, called them and said, "Hey, listen, Victoria Gaudy is trying to get back on TV." So she told Teresa that your husband's fucking your mom, so you better take care of this shit right now. And then those twins would have been like, "Oh my God, oh my God, I can't believe her. Let's get a colada, fill up my gas, hurry, honey, hurry." I need a colada right now, right now, let's provide you a house. Let's provide you a house. Let's drive you a house. Let's sit it, Victoria Gaudy's house. Yeah. Right now, let's drive you a house. Let's drive you a house. Let's look it up through the window and go to Dunkin' Dones to get a colada, okay? And then we'll talk about it next time, 'cause that's fate. And we'll see you at a party, okay? But yeah, the twin, Teresa is a married one, right? So Teresa did not look like, "What a silly thing, what a stupid rumor to be spread." She looked mortified that she had to deal with this on TV and totally completely crushed by it and actually felt bad for her. But I mean, if your husband's fucked your mom and people know, please don't go on TV. I mean, I feel like that should be a rule when you're auditioning for a reality show. I think they should say, "Have you or your husband fucked your mother?" Okay, then you're not, don't go on the reality show, okay? Okay. The only one who actually denied it was Vito, sort of later on the episode, Vito appeared. After Jim and Amber left, they were all having dinner and then Vito and Teresa, Teresa, came in and he's like, "It was such an outlandish thing. It was such an outlandish thing. I mean, how could you believe something that's so outlandish?" We could make better stories of, "I could give you better stories that are real that we did." Like, remember that time we found that orphan under the underpass and we spit-fired her? Teresa had a strap-on, but we spit-fired her and we took a change. Ha, not that we needed the money, but, you know, it was fun. It was fun. Hey, now she works at my restaurant. Hey. It's good. It was fun. I didn't fuck her mother, but I fucked her father twice and then he came on my face. Like, gross. I don't want to hear a story- That's a bad story. Any story that's true that is worse than you fucking your mother-in-law, I really don't want to know it. So please, just keep it to yourself. He's like, "We have worse things than a true." I'm like, "Wow." Yeah, that's what's scary and that's what leads me to believe that you probably did fuck her. So please, just stop. Yeah. Quit while you're- You don't? Quit while you're not ahead. The only other thing that happened in Florida, once Jim and Amber were kicked out, was that they went on a little yacht and what's the face? Bobby and Joe had this bromance thing where it was mainly like Bobby, it seemed like Bobby was kind of like molesting Joe. At one point, they were like frocking in the water and they went up on the beach and Bobby started doing CPR and mouth to mouth to Joe. It was like, very sexual. And I loved when Dino was saying, "You know, the only reason why I think Bobby's hanging out with Joe so much is that he just wants to get closer to the cool kids," which AKA means he wants to be famous. Yeah, he just wants to be on TV, which is painfully obvious at this point. And we haven't read anything that they've broken up, but if she's still with him after this, she's sadder than I imagine. I mean, he's basically the Dana of this- Hell yeah. Right? 25,000. 25,000. Except he's probably like, "Hey, hey, you see these sunglasses? 25 cents, huh? 25 cents, huh?" 25 cents. And I'm worth half a billion. He's like the richest person on any house who I've so ever. And he's just a pathetic hanger on set. So something else that I liked in the episode, Jacqueline. Jacqueline and Kathy trying to pretend they're friends and they're on the show. So for no reason, nobody can understand what the fuck they're doing here, but they keep putting them in scenes together. And Jacqui has nothing to talk about besides autism and Teresa. And today we're lucky enough that it was Teresa. And she's like, "But I texted Teresa again and she's still with me, Teresa." And Kathy's like, "Listen, just let it go. I have no time in my life for people like that. Concentrate on your husband and do something fun. Like, maybe you could go down memory lane." And then Jacqu's like, "What?" "You know, like, maybe like where you met?" I'm like, "Yeah. Hang upside down from a pole. Wait for him to come in and crush his family life. Have him leave his family. How was that fun?" "You know? How about we start like a year after we met? That'll be a nice dinner." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For the vice-gaffy. Yeah. I mean, that was like the, the Jacqueline story was so, it was a big nothing. They had a date night. They remembered things and now they're going to sell their house. Or who cares? Well, they had a date night. But they're basically trying to do pre-Judaic damage control because they're seeing what's going on with Joan Theresa. At this point in shooting, it's obvious that one or both of them is going down for the count. Well, they, and also they were not allowed, which we didn't discuss before, their bankruptcy was overturned. Did you know that part? No. So they had gone through this bankruptcy, blah, blah, blah, and all their debt was going to be erased, which was like over, it was $13.5 million. And it was overturned. So they now are on the hook for $14 million. Why was it overturned? I don't know. I guess because of all the false shit that they were turning in. Wow. You can't just date your bankrupt and be done with it. Oh, because they weren't, damn it, I know that. I know the answer to this. I've read enough this week because they did not actually the recap or chick bomb on trash talk TV talked about it because they didn't claim certain things in their bankruptcy. They didn't, they didn't claim their ATVs and what was the other thing that they didn't claim? I thought the ATVs that was Joe Judas didn't claim the ATVs, but it's both their bankruptcy. Oh, I thought you're talking about Chris and Jacqueline. I was like, no, no, no, I'm sorry, I jumped back to Teresa. So anyway, so their bankruptcy was overturned as well. So they're on the hook for now $14 million. So just to add to that misery, but anyway, Chris and Jack, I think are trying to do because a lot of the reason Teresa and Joe got in trouble was evidence that was used from the TV show. I mean, all of the, all of the hours of footage beyond even what we see on TV were subpoenaed by the court. So a lot of evidence against them was stuff that was recorded by the cameras. And I think that Chris and Jacqueline now are like, okay, you know, they're going to be looking at this show. So let's spend scenes talking about how we're humble and we're fine changing our lifestyle and we're just trying to do the right thing, like, how many fucking people did you two rip off? And they're acting like, oh, it's just the economy that's got us down. No, it's not. It's because you've been fucking ripping people off, dude. You're no better. That's why you're not throwing stones at Teresa. Give me a fucking break. Yeah. Fonies, balonies, okay, guys, that's what I say. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So what else should we move on to below deck real quickly before we wrap up the show? Yes, I'm trying to see the only other thing I wrote down was on Teresa's romantic date with Joe. He called an oyster, a sloppy Vijay J, giggled like it was the most romantic thing he had ever said, and then Teresa says deadpan to the camera. I love Joe because he makes me feel safe, which almost made me follow up my chair, seeing as how he just got her thrown in prison. Well, didn't she say something like about, like, was it that Joe or her money or her cookbooks keeps our family on a float? Yeah, that's how you say it right, on a float? Yeah. A float, yeah. So stupid. No. These are idiots. I don't think the title of this podcast should be, "You're awful on a float." Yeah. Yeah. You can't let brilliance just escape you like that, guys. All right. All right, below. You're awful. Blue dick. Blue dick. Blow dick. I really am enjoying this show. You know what, Kate is such a bitch, and I love her. She is such a bitch. But I love her. I don't even think she's a bitch, it's just, we're not used to seeing someone who's not a fake asshole all the time, especially in service, because in service you're supposed to be like, "What can I do for you? What? You okay? What can I do to you?" Yeah. And she's like, "Hi. Here's your food." I know. And I love, honestly, the thing that I liked about this show last season is that there comes a point when Captain Lee gets fed up with his crew, and he just starts yelling at them. And that's pretty much where we're going to now. I love it because, you know, the cast has made up of a bunch of, you know, like, reality stars, wannabe reality stars, young people, idiots. And he's like a real captain, and he has like no patience for it. And so it's always really fun when you see a typical reality idiot get yelled at by someone with real authority. Although this season they don't have as many jackasses. Last season they had a few, like, real assholes. Yeah, this sweet key was just mad because Kelly was like hungover after his birthday, right? Yeah. Kelly was being a baby, for sure. He was like, oh, my elbow. That's just the unfairness of the world. He could come home. I've never seen someone. I'd be like, it's okay, I forgive you. I've never seen someone with such a big penis, also have such a big vagina too. Is that misogynist? Probably. Sorry. I don't think so. I don't think he can be misogynist against a man. That would be called misandry, misandry. Well, I think the misandry comes from us equating, being a baby with a lady. It's saying you have a vagina. But Dina said it first, so there. She called Jim someone with a vagina. Oh, yeah. She was like, I'm sorry you're married to a dick, with a vagina or whatever. Yeah. Anyway, it was really fun. They had a bunch of trashy people, and I love these people because they're so like me in the way that they're like, we haven't even eaten today. And they're like, you had 37 waffles, 18 grilled cheeses. They're like, yeah, but you didn't call it lunch. So we haven't had lunch. I mean, those were snacks. They're like, because it's all skinny people on the boat who don't understand, you know, like skinny people just don't eat that much. So they're like, what? I had a piece of toast this morning. I'm fine. I'll have some shrimp for dinner. Fat people are like, you better get my food, bitch. I need my afternoon waffle. I love how I love how I cat is such a bitch, how like they pass by that yacht that has the slide out and they're like, oh my God, please don't let them see the slide. She's like, uh, whatever you guys like to have the slide today? And you're like, oh, they're like, yeah, sure, give us the slide. Yeah, that's what, what do you have to say about that? So I really don't have that much. I enjoy watching it. I just really enjoyed it. I think I'm actually really glad that Captain Lee made the pretty, pretty woman reference towards the end, which I thought was funny that he was making that reference. But when he, when he said that the crew was becoming like the people and pretty women who were like a big mistake, well, huge, well, the people in that boutique that Julie Roberts goes into because I was like, you know, these people are tacky ass passengers, but they are paying. And you can't just like, you just can't be snobby like that to the, to the, to the people who are paying to be on your yacht. Well, were they being snobby to their face? No, but you know what though, that stuff, it comes out. It comes, it's somehow like, I, I do believe that if you have a condescending view towards a client, even if it's just behind your back, it's some, it will eventually come out in some way or form. Yeah. Well, that's true. You're in service. You should be, you should be kind of making everybody feel really important. Yeah. That's why I left service. And Amy, you know, I like Amy, but she should tone it down the way she talks to Kate. I mean, Kate is her boss and she's like, I just don't understand. I don't understand. I don't get you. I don't get your head. I don't like, like, I like, you're my, you're my super, you're like my main, you're my main stew. And you're, they're talking about me with cat and kids, like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry if that happened. I'm sorry. I'm sorry if I did that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's it. Happened. She's like, okay. Yeah. But are you sorry that you did it? Are you sorry? Cause I fail a certain way. Oh, you're sorry that you did it. What are you only sorry that you did it because I caught you or you said because it hurt my feelings. Are you sad that you did it and it hurt my feelings or you said that it hurt my feelings, but you're not sad that you did it. I need a specific answer. It's like all of the above, but you know what though, I also like, I also like that Kate, she just was like, I'm sorry that I did that. Like she, like so many reality stars on Bravo, especially all the real housewives should learn. Sometimes just suck up and say, I'm sorry that I did that and just be here. And she really didn't do anything. I mean, Kat came down. She didn't. She just listened to that. Yeah. She started blabbing to her about something. But even that was like this bitch. So I suck some guys dick on a boat a few years ago and she told the whole world, but that's not even saying anything bad about her. It's just saying that she wasn't nice of her to do and it wasn't. So of course, it wasn't nice of Kat to be second. Everyone's dick either. Yeah. Like this show. I don't. I like the show. Why did you feel the water on table 12 before you filled the water on table 15? Was it racism? Who cares? It's a fucking busboy. That's what I say. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, I guess on that note, you win an awful person. Oh, Ronnie. Oh, Ronnie. How terrible. How terrible. You're disgusting. You're terrible. Oh, you're terrible. You're terrible. You're terrible. Ronnie for saying that about the bus boy. Disgusting. All right. Hey, you know what? Hey, you know what I call a yacht that's on the water. I call it a boat. All right, everybody, we're done with the podcast this week. That was a fun, rollicking two hours of talking amongst the cells. We hope you enjoyed it. Please come to our Facebook page, facebook.com/watchwickcrapins. Find info about our first Google Hangout for subscribers, which will be tomorrow or today or it already happened depending on when you're listening to this, but it'll be Thursday, October 9th at 7 p.m. Pacific time. So come on, find the address on our Facebook page or our Patreon page where you can become a subscriber, which is patreon.com/watchwickcrapins. To find our Instagrams and our Twitter's and et cetera, just come to our Facebook page and look at the part where it says Ronnie and Ben Instagram and Twitter's and et cetera. All right. Oh, you're terrible. 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