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I'm joined as always by my plucky co-hosts, the wonderful and talented and all together beautiful Ronnie Carom. Hi Ronnie. Hello. Oh, wow. Ben, thank you for having me. What a deep baritone you have today. Yes. Ronnie is, Ronnie can be found at Trash Tweet TV. I'll do this part. Yeah. Don't do Trash Talk TV.com for big brother and two ministry cats all summer long. You can also find me on Twitter at Trash Tweet TV or my name, Ronnie Carom. You can come to Facebook to Trash Talk TV or Instagram, Instagram.com/TrashTalkTV or on Tumblr for some funny gift gifts at tumblr.com. No, tumblr.TrashTalkTVRecaps.com. Thanks guys. So now for some of you listening, you may recognize a different laugh happening because we actually have a peanut gallery this week. We have a real, a real peanut gallery. They're not actually guests. They're just people who happen to be in my apartment still while I'm recording. And we crashed because we were like, I want to be on a podcast. So the voices, the very ethnic voices that you're hearing are... How dare you? That would be Jenny back there. She's an Asian. Yeah. She's Asian. But she's actually German. Oh, there you go. And this is Wole. I'm a black. He's a black. So it's so unfortunate that we didn't watch marriage medicine this week. Actually, I did watch it. Did you not watch it? How dare you? I thought we weren't supposed to watch it anymore. Why don't you just kick off Mariah Huck who gave nothing but her soul and her life so you can have a TV show. And then you just used and abused her and let her go. Now she's making a diet shake for black people because she has no storyline left and her mom has a big giant weight. Now, okay, for someone who doesn't watch marriage medicine, she's an actual doctor, right? No, she's not. No, she is the exact opposite of a doctor. Like a doctor represents the height of perhaps education and training and discipline and focus. She is like everything that's not that. Yeah. A doctor fixes things. Mariah infects things. She's like the illness. She's why there are doctors. So she basically came up, if you know what I'm saying. She married a doctor and she's basically like from the hood. She's from I think from Detroit, right? Or is that quad? I don't know. So what did Mariah do this week? She was pushing her diet pills. Well, all the girls went on this honey, this couple's trip. Okay. And they, Quad said she wouldn't go if Mariah was there because she's so negative. And so, and she lied to my face. A lot of my face, a lot of my face. I was headed in Mariah out and so Mariah couldn't go. And so instead she had these really tacky white. And you know what? Thank you, married to medicine for giving us some tacky white queens. Because I feel like it's kind of evening out the things in Atlanta because they show the most horrible gays in Atlanta. Yeah. But this week, we got really pasty, horrible white ones and they were like, we are your best girlfriend girl. And you don't have your friends and probably got it. Okay. This is our ring model bar girl. I'm going to pull out pods week. Oh, my God. And then like 20 gay guys across America got beat up. So thanks a lot. Lots of doctors were called during that hour. And then that was it. And so she like had to find new friends and she basically got kicked off her own show because that's her show, you know. Yeah, Mariah's also she happens to be one of the producers on Mariah's medicine. And yet none of the cast members like her basically. Are you serious? I think that's the most brilliant part of the entire show. Everyone's turned on her. And she's the one who wrote the show. You bought me off the island? Oh, really? Well, I beat out your boat, bitches. She's like really? Because you're at some gay guys barn right now filled with like Creighton barrel furniture. So I don't think you won. Mariah's medicine is basically like one hour of listening to very mixed metaphors. Like everything is wrong. Like a few weeks ago, Mariah's like they thought they could beat the queen. They thought they could beat the queen. But he always never forget the first rule of chess. Always protect the queen. It's like no, the king you protect, not the queen at all. Oh, so it's kind of like a bunch of Phaedras from Housewives of Atlanta. Because Phaedra looks like a noble laureate compared to these women. They can be canceled. Earth makes sense, you know. It's like they're trying to be Phaedra, but they don't know English very well. So they're like kind of stumbling all over. There's like Toya. So Toya is like famous for her grammatical gas because she talks like this. And she's like what I should have did. What I should have did was like I go to the bottom of the gate and then I'm like I want this barn. I want to get you jeans to buy this bonding. So that's what I should have did. Because I have came to this barn. Oh my God. Are you the rodeo? Sometimes I'm just going to manner with you in that voice. But you get more than talking to Toya voice. I don't even know who she is. But I'm just like my phone just sounds like it all times. She calls the drugs are. Last season she referred to the drugs are at the drug Cuzar. Oh, I love stupid people like that. That's like okay. Do you notice I keep going back to housewives only because that's the one I watch. Same thing. Same thing. Like the girl from who was the one who was on the ground railroads, a real railroad. Oh, that's Portia. Portia. Oh bless her heart. She's very special. Yeah, they fit on that train. I don't get in there. I'm not going to keep mine. The conductor, I don't know what they all go and do. It don't make no sense, y'all. It's not like today's times and they're like Portia because, you know, it's not a real train. But you know, it's going to be okay. That shows where the state of black education is people. We need black people to get more educated. That's what we need to do. Every time I get out the train I go. Yeah, I'm free. [laughter] She wears the banner. Ronnie's very funny. Ronnie, you're funny. My friends are finally discovering the joy that is Ronnie. Oh, guys. I always knew. I never met you. I want to switch you for Ben. Ben, I'm sorry. I made you lunch. I made you lunch. I made you lunch. Okay, so that was pretty much all for Mary to Medicine except I guess you could just watch it. We'll talk about it next week. Because now that I'm caught up, I'll be a hypocrite and make you laugh. I would like everyone to know that Ronnie is the one who texted me and said, you know, there are too many shows. We can't do it. We have to cut a show. It's like, okay, we'll cut Mary to Medicine. So here I am not watching Mary to Medicine and it's Ronnie's fault. In my defense, TV is falling. Okay? TV is falling, you guys. Okay, we have this golden age of scripted television where there was so much good TV. It's over. There's nothing on. Orange is the new black. It's terrible now. What else is on this? How do you think it's terrible? I watched Mary to Medicine over Orange is the new black. Wow. Come on, guys. I haven't seen the whole new season yet, so I cannot... It's stupid. Oh, is it? And they're all wearing hair and makeup. Like, bitches, you're in jail when it's getting your makeup. They're all acting like they're in some musical, like, in El Paso, Texas when they're 16. They're acting really big. You're in jail! They're like dancing around. I mean, it's too much. It's too much. You don't like 'em up it baby. It sounds actually just like Mary to Medicine. You guys are gonna have to switch. What's the girl who's on the Time Magazine thing? Laverne Cox. There you go. She can pop on Meredith Medicine, I guess, for an episode. I don't even know who Laverne Cox is. Shame on you. She's the transgender woman who was on, like, she was on the cover of Time Magazine. Oh, my God. Her last name is Cox. Well, she's a transgender, so, you know, it's not like it's gonna be, like, anything, like, you know, non-witty or whatever. Like, oh, penis... I don't know what that... I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know. You know what's funny? Sorry. I was just about to say, did Kwatini, like, have, like, a ridiculous comment? I'm like, no, we don't even need Kwat. We got WoW area. Oh, well, you know, like, his transgender doesn't have to be witty, so it could be like, penis or... No. I feel like if you go through the trouble to add a penis on, you should also, like, change your last name. Yeah. Well, he took his penis off. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You know what I mean. I get what you're saying. But back to the show, I'm sorry. I'm so... I'm derailing your show. Sorry, guys. That's okay. You know, you have tangents and, you know, if they pertain to, like, penises coming on and off, then so be it. Yeah, we're talking about housewives. We talk about removable penises a lot. Yeah. We are talking about marriage medicine. It is a medical procedure. So, technically, we are still on message. Okay. I'll give you guys a choice of what's next. Yeah. Candy's wedding, ladies of London, or the real housewives of Orange County or the real housewives of New York. How would you do Candy's wedding since we're already on Sunday with marriage medicine? Let's talk about Candy's wedding for a little bit. Okay. My first note is, Derek J opens this episode doing somebody's hair. I don't even know. Oh, yeah. He's talking like Mama Joyce or something. Yeah. And I wrote down, Derek moves his lips while other people talk. I hate that. Okay. I hate when you're telling somebody something and they're moving their lips back. You know exactly what you're saying. Yes. And you're just so stupid and they're so smart that they already see it coming. You know what, Derek J, you need to shut the fuck up. You don't know what I'm about to say. If you did, you would not be moving your lips like that because you'd be telling yourself to shut the fuck up. Derek J. Well, do you think you know everything? I know. Well, I have never noticed that, but I'm sure I will now become obsessed with him doing that. Because that's also something that I really hate. I really hate when people do that. Because it's almost like they're trying to like rush you to the end of the sentence. And I'm like, no, I want to take my time with the sentence. Yeah. Like I'm a hairdresser. I hear this shit every day. I mean, you make snowflake. You do not hear this shit every day. It's not mouthing my words back at me. It's like really bad karaoke. I love me some karaoke. I know. Don't get well, they started singing because the old thing right now. No, no, no. That was a really bad way for trying to go to me to sing. I ain't that a happening. What? Oh, so are they married yet in the show? Like I know? No, no. The season finale is coming this week. But the big issue on this week's episode was that Candy and Todd still hadn't signed their prenup or I guess Todd hadn't signed the prenup and I was like a day before. What Todd does is he's like professionally Candie's fiance. Well, they met because he was a producer on the show. He was not a producer. He was a camera guy. He was like a pia. Oh, really? He's not even a producer? Oh, sweetie. He wasn't a player. She don't want no scrubs. Oh, Jenny. Jenny's speaking like it is. She just got some scrubs. Yeah, you're right. Well, the sad part is that based on Candy's previous boyfriends that she had on the show, a pia on the show she's working on is actually a step up from the scrubs. Oh, snap. Candy, get back at him. That's Ben Moundo current. Something's up on Twitter. Candy, no. I can't believe that I thought he was like a producer or something. He was a pia. No wonder everybody thinks he's using her. He is. You don't fuck the pia. You don't marry a pia. Okay, you can fuck them, but you do not marry them. Hey, do we marry our pia? No. We fuck them and send them home. That's what it's about. But maybe she liked them. I don't know. I just find it funny because I haven't been watching the candy thing. I mean, I've been, I've been, I've seen clips. Like I saw them. Cause my thing is like, what's up with Mama Joyce? Well, this woman, like, like, here's the thing. I'm not happy. I know I don't sound black. No, because it's so black. No, it depends on how I go. Cause sometimes I try to get on to intellectual. Anyway, no, but I bring it up because, is that how intellectuals speak? Okay. I am now intellectual. Okay. We're going to have an intellectual conversation on this. Everyone becomes clear-huxable. I'm not sure. I'm a clear-huxable. I'm trying to get your street credit on it. I'm trying to get your street credit on it. I'm trying to get your street credit on it. I'm trying to get your street credit on it. I'm trying to get your street credit on it. I'm trying to get your street credit on it. I'm trying to get your street credit on it. I'm trying to bring it up, though, because the thing is mama joys. Why is she going to get always crazy out there to be like, "I'm going to show you outside. Oh, come on, bitch. This is the way it's going to go. I'm going to fuck you up and I'm like, "What?" You're like a 65-year-old grandma. Calm the heck down. I'll cut that, bitch. I'll cut that hole. That lady is using you candy. No wonder she's mindless. She hit the lottery. That bitch hit the lottery. I heard on the street she's blow people for money, candy. Because I let me take my teeth out and I'll show you how to blow a man. No, no. What I really want to see now, because when they always get that crazy. Yeah, thank you for intellectualizing. I'm only happy because it's only show I know. Because I want to jump in. That's why they call a gummy bear. See? No. Mama. See? Rah, this is going to learn all these things with mama. Was this the episode, though, where we're like Todd's mom went after like that? No, that was last. Damn it. Oh, I'm sorry. That's why I'm not going to play. Because I wanted to see them to go like that. She was like, you bring the wrong one and it's like grandma versus grandma. Could you imagine that? You got the wrong one, that bitch. Yeah. Could you imagine this, everybody? We saw. We don't have to imagine. No, no, no, no, no. No one else was around. It actually got to like scrapping and shit. Well, mama Joyce would have been healed. The fucking floor. It's always the bully that can't fight. You know? I agree. Does the tiny come on the show? Tiny. No, but we need does. We need. Oh. No, no, no, no. We need. We need. We need the back game. Women in that family screams so much. All kinds of stories. So, I think so getting back to the actual episode. So there was some stuff with the pre-nought, but I don't think anyone cared about that. Right? They're just the pre-nought. Yes, of course. Okay. So after all this time, candy has been after Todd to sign the pre-nought. Right? And he's like, "I don't know, babe. You know, I've given up a lot of PA work." He really has been saying that he's like going to move chords in London. And I said, "No, so you owe me half of your volume." I mean, this changed the whole tone for me knowing that he was a PA. I can't believe you didn't realize this, Rami. No, I thought he was a producer. I was like, "Oh my God." He's actually giving up his own career to work on yours. You owe him half. Okay. So this week we finally find out what all this pre-nought drama is. First of all, Todd is telling his lawyer that he deserves part of... He deserves part of the profits of whatever he does with candy while they're married. Well, the lawyer, of course, is like, "No, that's bullshit. You're giving up work. So if she dies or something, of course you would get that money if you work on music." Yeah. But that's not the case. He didn't tell the truth because he's apparently already making 50% of whatever candy he's making. So she produces this musical. And he get, did I say mucosal? Mecosal? That's what she says. She produces this musical with him and her partner and she paid him 50% of the profits. Right. And now he's saying that he's entitled to more if he dies. He's not. And what happened was, there was actually kind of an awkward moment because Todd was on the phone with a lawyer and the lawyer was like, "Don't, I can't talk to candy. That's unethical." And then candy's like, "See, no. I've already paid a mic. 50% sold." All right. And then the lawyer is just like, "Okay." And you could tell the lawyer was like, "This, my fucking client has not told me about any of the details and now I look like a jackass on TV." Yeah. He looks like a jackass and Todd is a fucking liar. So now, you know, other things that Todd was offended, I can see. Like, candy has a clause in there that if Todd ever like runs into a tree and becomes a vegetable or something that she could just divorce him and not pay him any money. Which is pretty cool. I like that. Really? Yeah. But I like candy. I think she should have all the power. I love candy. Yeah. She's like, "You can't talk. Bye." Listen, I don't think that Todd is the user that Mama Joyce thinks that he is. But I also don't think that Todd is like the, he's not the breadwinner that he tries to make himself out to be. You know, he's, he does act like-- Can you try for a little good for another type of brother? Yeah. Let's go to any other 90s, like, hip-hop song. Those are all her lyrics. I don't know what you know. I agree. Those are her words. Listen, I'm just concerned that he can't pay no bills. Bills, bills. That's the same song. Yeah, I know. That's why I said it. Jenny? Can't he wrote that song? Yeah. What else did she write, Jenny? She wrote all of Destiny's Child. She wrote No Scratch. Can we go back and talk? Right? All of Destiny's Child. Hello. Hi. You guys, this whole show's a revelation. Okay. This show has changed me. Now, I'm a fan of Candy. I hate Todd. He's a user. I agree with Mama Joyce. He needs to go. And Candy's the best thing ever. Candy's always been the best thing ever. Ever. That's why this is the only Bravo wedding spin-off that I watch voluntarily. Do you know that this is actually the highest rated one of them all? Yes. Well, the other thing is one of the reasons why it's getting such high ratings, one of the theories is that Bravo did not give it its own name, like Candy's Wedding. They're calling it the Real Housewives of Atlanta colon candy wedding. Yeah, my thing is tapered it. I don't know what. I'm like, "What housewives is on here?" Exactly. And that counts. That counts for the ratings. Yeah. I'm wondering what's going on. Why are you doing that? Because it's sort of like tricking people. Like, their DVR's recorded it anyway. They had seasoned passes to Real Housewives of Atlanta. Yeah. But it makes sense. But on top of everything else though, I don't care about Nini's wedding because Nini is like a narcissistic bitch, you know? Candy, Nini, that's Ben Balbakur at Visa Blog. And if you want to chime in on this conversation, be sure to like our podcast Facebook page, which is facebook.com/watchworkaction. What are you talking about? Get back to it. Yeah. Get back to it. No, God, we forgot to plug our own page earlier. So, but like candy though, you know, candy is someone that everyone I think likes. And she's talented. She's not, I think she's smart. But she also has this crazy situation where she's got this awful mother. And she's got a fiance that, you know, more or less is a good guy. And she's sort of in an untenable situation. And there is inherent drama and conflict in her story. As opposed to like, "Oh, what's Kim Zolciak going to do? Her bridesmaid is mad and there's only three days to the wedding." Like, no one gives a shit. But you know what? All of that was just a really long way of saying old ladies fighting. Yes. It is. Old ladies fighting. That is why I watch it. Where else do you get to see old ladies beat the shit out of me today? Oh, well get Gary. Give VH one another year or two because they will find a way to make that into it. Excuse me. I tried to pitch a show like that about old ladies. And everyone was like, "No, no one wants to see old ladies." I was like, "Fuck you all. Well, I want to see old ladies." Oh, yeah. How about a show called like, "Instead of loving hip hop, you could have loving Motown." And it'll just be like a wreath that beating the shit out of people. I just had a really bad vision of like, "You remember when Wreath lost the weight because you had the surgery?" I'm sorry. That's going so really bad. It's okay. It's all right. Y'all are evil on this podcast. I don't know. Oh, no. This is, yeah. This is an evil podcast. Yeah, you shouldn't be giving your name at the beginning. Oh, no. My name is James. Y'all are evil. This one. Wow. His name is Large White King. I'm just intellectual. We just framed a friend of ours. So, what I was going to say though is what was also funny to me on this episode was at one point like Tan said regarding Carmen. She's like, "Well, Carmen and I put aside our differences so we can move ahead with this wedding." I'm like, "Oh, I'm so glad you guys put aside your differences that no one cares about. Like, who cared that you guys got sort of mad at the bar the other night?" It was like for three seconds on the show. Yeah. So, the fact that she says it is if there's like, "Oh, oh, good. Like, good. We can move forward with this wedding. Just crack me up." I still love all the mama joy stuff. So, she's in the beauty parlor talking to Derek Jay and just the delusion with this woman. She doesn't tell anything like it really happened. Yeah. So, that old lady fight was basically her calling the other mother a whore and saying the dad was a pimp and the son is a user and all this. And finally the lady started getting mad and mama joys is putting her finger in her face like trying to jump over the table to beat the shit out of her. And that's when she says, "You got the wrong one now, bitch." Okay. This is mama's version of it. What did I do? See that drunk lady call me a bitch. Yeah. Yes. I can't do that. I know this victim, it is hilarious and then he's like trying to get her to explain herself or explain herself in like a way that makes sense. And she goes, "Look, it's like this. When he gets up to hit that home run, they run off and marry a white girl." What? What? I don't remember that. What? I had to rewind it so I could write it down. I did not understand that. And the other thing that happened in this episode is instead of getting, Candy was like, "You better respect me and not get a stripper. I don't want your penis in anybody's mouth. I don't want it in their vagina, in their ear, whatever." Well, so he's like, "Okay, fine. You too." So guess what she had? Fat midgets. Yeah. That is not mine. Yeah. She had a fat midget. She had a fat midget twerking. That is hilarious. And the fat midget got on to a table and the table fell apart. But here's the thing though. As Todd or whatever, Candy is obviously the breadwinner. He ain't doing nothing special or whatever. You have to do what she says because she's going to cut you off. Yeah. Exactly. Well, especially now. Like Ryan, Nick Cannon. Yes, I don't know. There was no need for Mariah Carey. Sorry. Jenny's trying to interject. Not to tendering. Yeah. Go enjoy that. Make a kid cutty is writing me right now. We have a lot of things happening on this podcast right now. Dance. There's delusion. So yeah, I know what you're saying though about Mama Joyce though. She keeps on banding about the fact that this woman said just once, like, "Shut up bitch." And so like a whole episode she's like, "What was that? Is that before she called me a bitch?" Or whatever. Like as if like that was the touchstone of the argument. Like they started fighting because the woman called her a bitch. Like it's, it drives me nuts. Yeah. I hate people like that. Like they finally get the other person to make one mistake and then they repeat it over and over again. Yeah. It's what it's specified. A really, another gross thing that happened but besides like using a midget fat person for your pleasure was that they use that dead brother again. Okay. In a fight last week, Mama Joyce is like, "I swear, my dead baby." Please don't. So this week, Candy used her brother and was like, "Well, Mama's been mean to me. So I took it with a great side. So she'd have to be nice." Yeah. Mama, you've got to be nice to Patrick. Yeah. Yeah. No. Radha. Come see her. Dad, uncle. Radha. See? No, Mama. It's his dude. He's there. It has the worst feeling in the road, Mama. Oh, I can't like Kermit the fuck. That's what I can do. Oh, so Ola, you don't know this. My version of Candy sounds really nothing like her but the thing, Candy has the hardest voice to impersonate because it's like high and then really low and then growly. Yeah. And it depends on how she wants to go. Oh, she's doing a sarcasm. Yeah. See, now. Mama, what? Radha. Radha. See? I got it back like that. Radha. See? It's not an impression. It's an interpretation. It is. It is. I'm not. I just find it very entertaining. Whoa. Lando. I loved it. So they were talking about how Patrick went Patrick died, how they both, I don't know why I'm laughing. This is so cool. It's like a nice moment in the show. Oh, you know, I miss him so much. I think of him every day and I remember how he used to come between us when we would fight and I miss him and I really wish we could have seen him grow up and stuff and the mama Joyce is like, when he died, he came to me and he was like, mama, it's okay. Don't cry. Don't let candy ever date a PA. Don't ever let somebody use her for all her money and take away from me with nothing if I'm old. And then he left. That is not what happened. Yeah. And how can you prove her wrong? And I, well, I also like the fact that the candy is like, oh, I talked to Patrick like every day and mom just like, yeah, I can't do it once. Like, well, maybe you should look at yourself if the ghost isn't coming back to you. If the ghost is scared of you and you're not scared of the ghost, then you really are the problem there. Yeah. The ghost is like, how's mom? I'm not fucking talking to her. You still try to take money out of my Wells Fargo account. Like, I was like, whoa, I'm saying, wait from that bitch. She cries. She's like, I'm up here trying to date a hot ghost and mama Joyce will not let me marry her. Mama Joyce is like at the pottery wheel waiting, but nothing. She's like, that goes and goes for reference. I know what you were going for. That was a ghost reference. That was a romantic ghost reference. Patrick Swayze shows up. He's like, whoops. Wrong lady. Mama Joyce is all hugging Whoopi Goldberg. That is the most disgusting visual I've just said. I'm sorry. Okay. Nevermind. So anything else happened on this show? Should we move on to Osea? Osea was good this week. Sure. Osea was good. Osea is good every week. I can't believe how good this season is. First of all, Ronnie, I have to give you a little bit of a golf clap. Like a little golf clap because you put up that amazing photo of Brooks naked. Oh, actually, we have to say thank you to Cindy C because as much as I thought that would be a hilarious idea, I was too lazy to do it. And the next day, she tagged me and it was like, hey, here's your next photo. And I was like, yes, Cindy C. Cindy C. Oh, it's down before I stand. You did a great job, Cindy C, because that is the funniest thing. Yeah, it's basically naked Brooks, you know, because they got a massage. Vicki and Brooks got a massage this week in Mexico and it was horrifying. And they took off his towel. I don't know what these people are thinking when they're shooting, but I will never shoot again. Let's just say that. They took off his towel, his pasty ass, and so now it's up on our Facebook page. And the comments are hilarious on it. Oh, yeah. I mean, it is a really horrifying thing. It looks sort of like a loaf of bread before it's been cooked, you know, big and pasty. Here, this is this. I'm showing it to all. Oh, that's like he showed himself. He did that like purpose. Yeah. If you could put like a time camera on dough rising. Yeah. It really looks like rising dough. He's not dead. He's pale and paste. Yeah, he's like, you can see like right by his head is where like that's near the heat source a little bit in the middle. There's a big old air bubble right in the middle of that bag. Wait, so he's married to somebody on the show? No, he's dating Vicki. Who's like the main OG? Oh, no. Okay. Cause like I was telling Ben when he was mentioning like I used to watch OSC back in the day. Like I missed like the original like Joe. What was it Joe? Joe. Yeah. Joe and like the like the same one with the woman. The what with the blonde with the kid. Oh, yeah. It's nothing like that. I know. I feel like we're playing celebrity right now. I know. All right. She's the same one. She's on real hot swabs. She's blonde. No, no different one. Yes. I'm so I didn't mean to. Yeah. I don't I don't watch. So well much has changed since that first season will lay. I want some two or three seasons. All right. I know Vicki. Just really quick while we're still talking about naked pricks. I just wanted to say to the listeners your comments are hilarious and people are posting pictures of like just people screaming and freaking out which is hilarious and I especially love the people who get like seriously mad like the guy who's like unfollowed that is disgusting. Yeah. Listen fucker. If it is allowed to be on Bravo, it is allowed to be on Facebook. Get over your damn self. Yes. Oh, is that like. Whoa. I'm just looking at the picture now. Oh, is that like like cloud over his penis? Yeah. I thought that was just, I thought that was just more of his penis. He sounded just like a like a small bill of smoke that I thought it was just like some more paste or whatever. Oh, shit. Don't touch this cable by the way. Oh, very sensitive microphone. I got to touch it. The entire thing for you. This guy's like a toothless deadbeat dad user who's like being sued from different states for children he hasn't paid for like he's just awful and in a in a reunion show we called himself Girth Brooks. Wow. Which is the name of the gay porn star I'd like to add. Yeah. Also, what about a Vicky's old husband? I'm sorry. I'm like just like the dumb one who doesn't know anything. I could say it in I could say it in short. Okay. Uh, they they got divorced to the, I guess it was abusive or something or maybe he drank too much or he just didn't want to be with Vicki. Sorry, Vicki. Good luck with you with. No, it was her choice. She wanted to get divorced. Yeah. She has to pay him alimony. So now she spits. Oh, that's so embarrassing. So speaking of divorce, this is a great segue. So the big story with this week's episode is that, um, uh, so Shannon who is a new cast member this season, really in Jenny for you guys, uh, she, um, she's this like nagging wife who has kind of driven her husband and saying and he has kind of left her center and email saying I, uh, I, I, I want to move out. And so she only told Tamara about this and Tamara is like pretty much one of the worst people in history of the world like worse than it way worse than mom and Joyce could ever be. Like she's really like at the bottom of the barrel and then Tamara told, uh, Heather and Heather is sort of like an ice queen bitch. Okay. So Shannon is having tea with Tamara and we like Shannon, Shannon's like a, even though she's like very wealthy and crazy, she's very relatable and she's, she's talking to Tamara about how she's scared about her, uh, her marriage and everything's falling apart, et cetera, et cetera. And she gets a text in the middle of this discussion and saying that Heather is going around talking about Shannon's email that Shannon received from her husband and Shannon only told Tamara. So Shannon's like, Tamara, did you tell Heather and Tamara is like, absolutely not. I did not tell her at all. And therein that was the first five minutes of the episode and then everything kind of exploded from there. Ronnie, what did you think about this situation? Oh my God, I only wrote three notes because this episode was so good. I wrote Heather misplaced a dimple because like her husband's a plastic surgeon who won't stop working on her and she looks crazy. And now she has a dimple on the left side of her chin where nobody has a dimple. It's like Batman getting punched in the face and someone pressing pause like, where the fuck is that? I know it's so funny. I actually, I actually feel like I saw that. I didn't think of it as a dimple, but I saw that weird in depth. What is that? It's so bizarre. When I wrote Heather, when Shannon comes to her house to yell at her, Heather's like, I thought you were here to apologize. Okay, so basically what happens is Shannon's really kind of crazy at this point. And later on the episode, we learned that he wasn't ever leaving her. They're just that couple that's always fighting and trying to get everybody involved in their drama because they have nothing else to talk about at heart, okay? Yes, that's correct. Jenny knows some of this. I only know something. Yeah. Shannon's like, oh, well, Heather's talking about me. Oh, well, I'll just go to Heather's house, which who does that? You don't just knock on the door. I mean, even if you're the fucking man, man, and you knock on my door, I'm going to kick your ass. I could be taking a nap. You don't just knock on my door. Who does that? Nobody. Well, the thing is what happened was David decided to come back. And so now they're going to be a happy family again, but now that there's this rumor going on there that they're getting divorced, and so that's what Shannon wanted to lock down is to kill this rumor because they're not going to be like, oh, I'm so glad I worked it out with David. He came home and he apologized. And now I've had my wake up call and I am doing the best I can to make sure that our marriage lasts. And the second he comes in, she's like, look, girls, your dad's eating before dinner again just like he does every single day. Yeah. That's actually like exactly what happened. Dinner was it? Dinner was on the table, I wouldn't have to eat chips. So the thing is that Shannon goes over to Heather's house because she wants to find out from Heather who told her about the email because Tamara says she didn't hear about it. So Heather is, again, expecting an apology, which is hilarious that she's like in this whole entire situation that she wants an apology because in a previous episode, I think maybe two episodes ago, there was a holiday-- They got to fight. --and basically Shannon was like, Heather, she's like, you're just so condescending. That's pretty much all she said. So Heather wants an apology from that and she thought she was getting one. Instead, Shannon was like, listen, there's this rumor going around, it's like really hurtful. Can you just tell me where you found it from? And Heather keeps it going about the apology. So Shannon does apologize, by the way. Shannon says, you know what, I'm really sorry. Yeah, she says it in that way that's like, well, I just knocked on your door, it's the middle of the night, drinking your liquor, sitting on your couch about to yell at you, and I'm very sorry that I did that. But I heard that you talked about me and David, and I just want to talk about that. And Heather's like, I think it's funny that you would come to my house and you would ask me questions about things when you think I am condescending and rude. Shannon's like, well, Heather, now I just said that because you were being condescending in root. And Heather's like, you need to go. You need to get out. My kids are in the house. This is done. Goodbye. That's exactly. So the funny thing is that Heather was the one who made a whole big point about the moment you have any issue with me, just come and talk to me. I don't think she meant drive to my house in the fucking middle of the night when my children are home to yell at me. It wasn't the middle of the night. It was like, it was like, that poor Tamara spreading. It was like 6 p.m. It wasn't the middle of the night. It is dark. Well, it was Christmas time. I have to respect. Yeah, so I guess my question is that so ultimately Tamara fessed up, that she did tell Heather and she. Tamara said it on camera. Yeah. Well, so Tamara's reasoning was, look, what I was telling Heather was lay off Shannon a little bit. She's going through some tough times. This is what's happening. You know, they're having some marital issues. And then Heather's, Heather's been side of that for why she gossiped about it was that she then went to lunch and her friend, well, what did she say? She said her friends said, what's going on with her friends, what's going on with you and Shannon and she's like, well, I guess she's going through some marital things. I don't know. Whatever. Let's move on. That's what they, that's what I have to say. I don't think that Tamara should have told necessarily Heather about the email and she shouldn't have gossiped, but I do sort of get what she was doing. I don't think it's like the worst moment of Tamara being Tamara. You know, I get that being like, listen, just lay off or she's going through some issues right now. I think it's okay to say that. 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We'll not be a part of this. No, no, but here's my thing. But I've been, I get what you're saying, but I think in a situation like that, you can say, hey, they're going through something rough. Yes, exactly. So keep it general. You don't say specifically. Exactly. I would not have mentioned that. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Well, the irony is that when Tamra mentioned this, it came on the heels of her and Heather having this whole heart to heart because she was mad at Heather for sharing privilege information and then she went and turned around and gave privilege information to Heather about Shen. So that's like the funny, I don't know if it's like funny, but that's like the craziness of it. That's why Tamra is such an evil person. I think it's okay to keep it general. Okay. Two things. First of all, Shen has said it on national TV. So whatever the secret is, both because you're on TV and you talk about it. So shut up. You're the one spreading to rumor. Nobody else. You get that Tamra is a terrible friend, but we all knew that. And bitch, you saw this show before you came on it. So don't act like you're so shocked that Tamra is a bitch. Okay. We've been waiting for you to rip off her head this whole time and now we're going to get to see it. Hopefully. Okay. The second thing is Alex McCord from Real House of New York, as I've discussed before, has a web show now on this website called Cafe Stir Mom or it's like moms. And she does a little thing, a little web show where she talks about the housewives from an insider's point of view. So I wanted to bring this up right now because she talks about this situation. And this is Alex's take. Well, guys, on this show, Shannon, she's holding papers like she's a news lady, but she never looks at them. She's like, I think like she's on the news, but she's like in her living room and everything's that cool. Because she doesn't have a mic. And she's like, okay. So here is what happened on Real House of Orange County, Shannon told Heather a secret. No, Shannon told Tamara, a secret Tamara told Heather, Heather told everybody. Now here is what happens on these shows from an insider's perspective, guys, Shannon may have thought she was telling her best friend, who is probably a producer, who is only doing her job because Shannon thought she was her best friend, but she's really just a producer. And Shannon has not realized yet that the producers are out to get you and manipulate every little thing you say and the producer ran to Tamara and Tamara Alex, let it go. By the way, I believe that a hundred percent, you know, like that's why I'm always amused in these shows, never like a secret gets out. It's like, who told? How did they know? How did they know? I'm like, you realize that like you have a producer, right? There's someone. Oh, oh, we have another person coming in. This is amazing. I'm almost knocking on your fucking book. I don't know another group. Another guest star. It does that. The audience is like, what the fuck is going to be listening to this week? This is a disaster. And only two people know. It's not like we even know about the shows. It's not like we help them. We just being like, what is that? What is that? What is that? What is you talking about? Tamara. Tamara done did that shit. Fuck you, Tamara. I hate it for real intelligence. Okay. Excuse me. It's intellectual. It's intellectual. Jenny. I like to call it like Jenny from Jim Forrest Gump, hi, Janae. Oh, but she's Asian. So it's like, hi, Jenny. We've been sent to podcasts going on at once. Okay. Ryan and I are talking about Bravo. And these two are now having a moment and there's other girls about to walk in. And she doesn't even realize there's a podcast happening. That's gonna be the funniest one. I'm supposed to surprise her. Surprise. Surprise. You're on a podcast. Hey. Back to Tamara though. Slut. Keep going. Sorry. That's what I say. It's gonna rhyme again. No, I'm here. He's just waiting for us to shut the fuck up. Rodney, I had no idea this was gonna happen today. Who's over now? Well, she hasn't come up, but it's, it's another, it was Jen. What's your bed number, what's your bed number, a part of your number? Three, three, two. Sorry. It's okay. You just said it yourself. Good job. I did it because you know what? I knew if I tried to pantomime into Jenny, she'd be like, what are you doing with your fingers? No, I got it. But then you said it. Jesus Christ. It's all right. Back to Bravo. God, y'all need to stay focused. It's all right. This is actually one of our more focused podcasts. We once had a podcast where we had an entire musical interlude where we sang All I Want for Christmas is You. Where was Jenny? Look at Jenny's face. Walter. Walter played a flute. She's obsessed with them. Hey, back to it. I don't have all fucking day here. All right. So the point is this. I kind of feel like there were errors on all sides with these people, but I also, I also feel like this quote unquote gossiping that happened probably wasn't as malicious as it sounded when it got back to Shannon and she's just in a sense of place and I understand her being upset, but it probably wasn't as big of a deal as she thought. And like you said, she's putting it out there all on national TV, so she better get used to people gossiping. I really like Shannon. I think she's a good addition to the cast, but that bitch is crazy. She is crazy because now her thing is, well, Heather. I went to Heather's house just needing a hug and Heather grabbed me by the hair, slammed my face into the mantle, shoved me outside, made me lay in the driveway, drove over me, then called her child out who's trying to get his driver's license and had him practice running over me. And then I called David and he didn't answer the phone because he was already in bed. He didn't even care what I thought because he doesn't love me and doesn't give me a hug. I love drama queen. I loved when Shannon, I mean, she's such a no case now that she went off on that girl Danielle at one point. Like they were all like getting some essential oils and Danielle's like, well, I could talk about the situation, Danielle's like, I would like get a stiff drink and Shannon's like, Danielle, you're being very judgmental right now. I feel like you're being very judgmental. What is this now? I don't understand what the fight's about. I didn't even hear that part. I was going to ask you what that girl Danielle said. She probably was like, I need a drink because I've got a game over there because I yell that you guys. I'm so sorry. You'll get used to it. Yeah. They're all putting on their shoes right now. They're like, but bitch. Sorry guys. There's nothing personal. I do that to ban all the time. No, no. I just, I was, I meant to like crash for five minutes and then I'm looking and it's like 40 minutes later and I'm like, how the hell is it? Well, now you're stuck. It's a fucking mama choice. That's what it was. Yeah. And now we have, now we have another person in the background in the, in the, you know, gallery. Yeah. Well say, come say, Jen. Jen, say hi. It's not video. It's not video. Yeah. She's like hiding in the background. Hi. She's lingering. Do you want Jen? Do you watch any Bravo? She loves. I only watch bro. And you, oh, you're coming to her right now. We will switch out. I'm going to turn for a month. So I'm not caught up on everything. Oh, wow. I'm good on houseways, ladies of London and, um, all right, but they're finishing up. Then they're going to go to the talking about this week's episode, which is crazy, right? Yes. Heather. Yes. Heather de Bro. You come switch it. I'm Jen. Bye. Bye. See you guys. Bye. Bye. Yeah. Exactly. Now shame on you the fact that now we're switching a black man out for a white woman. I just want to point that out. Where's Barack when we need him? Well, we've got a name in. Don't you feel like we already talked about candy. Yeah. Bye, Ola. All right. So we were actually... Jen has no idea what she just said. Yeah. What did I walk into? We're talking about Shannon and Tamra and Heather. Do you have, as a, as a lady, do you have any thoughts on this whole thing? Do you think it's right? Who do you think is wrong? No. Oh, that's a hard one. Shatam. We're also annoying. Are you liking this season? I stopped and I love this season. Right. It's a great season. It is a great season. Except for Sophia Lauren. I mean, she's kind of like... Oh, you mean... I don't know her name. I was gonna have Lizzie. Oh, you're just like Vicki. I'm just like... Because Vicki didn't know her name. Wait. So did... I feel like Lizzie did something this week. Didn't she? Nothing. She never does anything. She doesn't do shit. My boobs are dead. Wow. This week, what did she talk about this week? A baby. She's always talking about a baby. Oh, yeah. You need a baby. Oh, yeah. No, baby. Actually, that was Tamara Storyline. And that's another thing. You know, we talk about bravo storylines that get recycled. One of them is when women go to get their beavers waxed, you know, like, we see that on every show now. And now the new thing is like, let's see how these women deal with like a robotic baby. I'm like, I don't want to watch a woman holding up like a fake baby. Like, that there's nothing like hilarious to me. And it's always the same thing like... It's like a woman who's had like five children. Yeah. Exactly. It's like, there's nothing funny to me like, oh no, gotta feed the fake baby again. Like, I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I'm not here to watch that. That baby has as much rubber as Tamara. That's true. Also, that baby looks terrified and it looks like it's had too much sun already. Although it was funny. You need to get that plastic baby out of the house. Oh, it was funny when they said it looked exactly like Vicki's grandson, because it's true. It looked like baby Troy. It's like a real ugly robot baby. Yeah. That storyline is ridiculous and Tamara is grasping at straws to have anything to do on that show. Yeah. Well, I mean, again, Lizzie is even worse. I'm... I swear I thought Lizzie did something this week. I thought she did something. All she does. She just turned up for people, you know, she'll be like, Heather didn't mean to be like that. She just talks like that. She's not a bitch. She just has bitch boys. Yeah. Thanks for playing. Is he? Bye. Yeah. All right. Why don't we move on as we just like go through the week, why don't we go to Ladies of London then? Are we having anything else to say about Orange County? No. I think Orange County was all the Heather, I mean, the Heather and Shannon drama. And that was just amazing. I just love Shannon. I just want to cut together all of Shannon's craziness and we can watch her just go crazy from the peak here. Oh, the best... One thing we did miss was that Terry is such... Terry's such a shitster, first of all. Yeah. Heather has said in interviews that she didn't want to do it because she considered herself a real actress, but Terry made her because he's like the reality fame whore because he was on that show The Swan years ago, and now he's on this new each so-called botched about like fixing terrible plastic surgery. And he's always like loving the fights. Like he sits in the background smiling, like he's just loving it and he gets the girls their drinks and then just watches from behind them. So Shannon doesn't even know he's there. And then Shannon's like, "Well, oh what? Now, Tamara says I'm drinking too much, so now I'm a drunk." And then she drinks her vodka. Yeah. She's sitting there with like a pint glass of vodka, she's like, "I don't think I drink too much. I don't know why she says these things. They have had..." Terry's like, "Good job ladies." But you know what though, let Terry have this moment because you know what, the poor guy is not even allowed to think for himself. You know, this is what a conversation is like with Heather, she's like, "Well, I think it's totally rude. I think it's totally inappropriate. Why would they come over here? I don't think that's right. Do you think that's right?" No, no. I don't think that's right at all. Thank you. That's exactly what I was saying. I'm glad that we're on the same page about this. We're on the same page, right? Yeah, no, we're totally on the same page. Exactly. I think that a lot of time men get off easy because people are like, "Oh my God, Terry's so nice. He's married to such a bitch." But my theory is Terry's as much of a bitch as her, but he doesn't have the balls to be that in public. He marries a bitch to be his mouthpiece. And I think in private, he's like, "Man, that's Shannon, sure as a drunk, right?" And then she's like, "What a drunk!" You know, the fake phone call, remember the kid? Oh my God. Our daughter is sick. We need to run. Well, they didn't... Terry talked to her. They did it again. When Shannon came over, they're like, "Okay, this can't last that long because we have that party later. We're a party, you know? The surprise party. Oh, yes, the surprise party. Yep. I'm 30 in the morning." Yeah. So that shows over. Yeah. It's cancelled. We've cancelled it. Sorry. Sorry, OC. Bye. So let's move on to ladies of London. So let's see. I want to talk more about Annabelle. We talked about this last week about how she always loves to call herself this rock and rose sort of punk rock of fashionista. Alexander. Alexander. Alexander McQueen. Uh, today I woke up and the sun came up and I almost smiled and then I remembered Alexander. But then the thing is this that I showed inside of her flat today and it was like so... It was like grandma. It was like grandma Holly. It was like old British mum in there. Everything was like ornate and she had these like little like teacups and everything. Yeah. I'm like, "This is not punk rock, okay?" She inherited that from some old dead person and never did anything to change it. She can't even sit up. She's always like half laying down and she sits down. Yeah. And I know this is a very specific comment but her couch looks so uncomfortable. It looks like it should be super comfortable but based on the way that she sits like that, she's like sits laying back because she's not used to ever having a back rest. Well, she probably, I think she probably would never be comfortable in any sort of seating arrangement. She just... I can't be comfortable when I know I'm living in a world without Alexander. This is the way that Alexander liked me to sit because I was his muse. I was his sitting muse. He wanted to design chairs before he committed suicide and he was going to study the way I sat but then he died and I lived with that every morning. Every time I sit in a chair, I think of Alexander. Alexander. You know, she thought I was so fashionable. Alexander. Well, I loved it. So the thing was that Annabelle, she had a fashion show this week in like a little tunnel and there was like flooding and everything and I loved also, before the show started, this girl, Noel, who will get into more, she comes over and she's like, "You're going to have the fashion show with all the rain, pouring, you know, because her British accent comes everywhere forward." She's like, "All this rain?" And she's like, "Well, yeah, I got to do it." And while I was like, "Well, it is fashion." I'm like, "I don't understand what that means. What part of fashion means, like, great, like, torrential downpour, like, leakage, sewage, I don't understand what makes that fashion." Yeah. That's all. That's my only point, really. It's my only point. It's my only point. I don't understand. I'm so sorry. Thanks for that. I didn't have anything to say, that's so true. It's not really that true. I guess fashion's so difficult. Fashion's shit falling from the ceiling, rats running across the road, not being able to walk properly, might die anymore, because you're chipping over a stone in the runway, just like fashion. It's like you put on clothes, because otherwise you'd be fucking naked, okay, you done, bitch? But Alexander. I love that Juliet, probably the most annoying American who's always yelling and stuff. She also does one of the most annoying things that Americans do, which is talk in questions to herself. She can't just say like, "Oh, I went down the street today, I bought some eggs, and then I asked for four quarters so I could play a video game." She's like, "Did I walk down the street today?" Yes. Was it a street made out of pavement? It was. Did I go to the store? Yes. Why did I go to the store for eggs? What did I do when I got the eggs? I got four quarters. Why would I get four quarters? What if I pass a video game? And did I pass a video game? I did! I never even noticed that before. Sentences. Woman? Yeah, Juliet got into a row with Caprice. Caprice is like falling out of favor with some of these women. I knew that Caprice and- Oh, you mean Tappers? Cappers, yes. Hello, Starling. It's Copper! Yes. Terrible accent. Oh my god, Caprice, Caprice is truly the worst, and actually one of the worst scenes of the episode was when Noel went to Caprice to learn how to get better press. I'm like, "These two fame wars both need to fall into the Thames and die." Yeah, she was like, "I'd rather I'd pass back to what Cap has done than her career." I'm like, "The bitch is naked everywhere and calls the paps to tell them about babies she's impregnating Americans with over the pond." Well, Caprice acts as if she's actually famous. I mean, maybe she's famous in London, but like, I mean, have you girls ever heard of Caprice? No! See, Jenny doesn't even know what I'm talking about. She's a gas guzzler. She has us, she has like a juice pecs, but you stick a straw in Caprice's son. Sorry, I was so stupid, but I love that Caprice is like, "She should be gonna be friends with me if she wants to become famous." Yeah, she's like, "If that girl is a smart cookie, she'll be friends with mine." Well, so Caprice's whole thing was that she decided that she didn't want what's her face to her, the baby shower because, I don't know why, oh, because she didn't like to wait. She's like, "You live like 10 hours away from the city, and who's that girl with her name?" I forget. I love her. Caroline. Caroline, yeah. She's like, "I live 30 minutes away." She's like, "It's like 20 hours. No one wants to drive there. Let's do it at the restaurant." She's like, "No, I will do it at my home where I can prepare things." She's like, "No, stick over to a restaurant." And so Caroline, I think Caroline's like, "Fine, do it yourself, bitch." Like, how rude. Okay, not only am I not going to have it at your house, I'm going to request that you throw at a restaurant that's going to cost like $20,000. Yeah, exactly. No. I love Caroline, and I loved how she demanded that Juliet apologize to Annabelle. She calls up. She's like, "You have to apologize," and she's like, "Well, I don't know." And she's like, "No, you are out of line, and you have to apologize." This is her conversation. She's like, "Am I answering the phone right now? I am. Am I saying hello? I am." Listen here, you fucking idiot. What were you doing out there in the middle of the street? It's not how you fight. What are you dumb? Call her right now and say, "You're sorry." "I have to. You do. Do it now." It was. That's exactly how it was. And I love that. I love that Caroline's just like, "This is the way it's going to be, and that's that." And Caprice is so stupid for her. Like, on top of everything else, since Caprice is such a fan more, Caroline is the only one in their circle who has any sort of station amongst them, I think. I mean, Annabelle, I think, sort of has some sort of aristocratic background, but Caroline has, like, title, right? And you would think that Caprice would want to have her baby shower with the lady who has the title. But no, she doesn't. Because she's mad that Caroline didn't stand up for Annabelle, I think, in the fight. It's just, I mean, Caprice, honestly, I think is the stupidest of all of them. No, because Caprice doesn't, Caprice is American. So she, like, she says British society a lot, but she doesn't care about British. She doesn't know what all the titles even fucking mean. She's an American. She cares about the American fame. Like, she considers herself bigger than Caroline because she's been on the front page of the tabloids above. I mean, she names the celebrities. She's like, "I was about Sarah, Jessica, how are you?" Please. So to her, she's more famous. So, of course, she cares about the one, you know, who was friends with Alexander, thinks, but not the one who could actually, like, introduce her to the Queen, you know, don't be odd. Meanwhile, Noel's whole story was that she was supposed to move into a new flat on Friday, but then things happened to she has to move on Monday. And she's like, "I just don't know if I can stand for this anymore." I'm like, "This is the most ridiculous thing. You were so lucky they're even getting a flat that you have a sugar daddy. You can't complain, but the fact that the move was delayed by two days." You know, this isn't, like, a week or a month. "I need you to take care of every little detail for me. I have to know that if you're my man, you're going to take care of this for me. I mean, two days is a lot. I've been sleeping on somebody's couch. Two days, you couldn't even do that. I mean, what kind of man are you that you can't get me the $10,000 a week apart?" And I was like, "That's really, really?" I cannot believe that he didn't just break up with her right then. Oh my God, the sex must be amazing, it must be amazing, because there's no way that... You know, when in her position, she has no room to bargain. There are so many other girls that would take her place that wouldn't complain. I think it's just, there's such a difference between, like, gay guys and, you know, we always think, like, "Oh, we love these shows because we're the same. We like being catty and arguing about stupid things." But at the end of the day, like, especially in relationships, we're so different because beautiful women know that they can own a man like that, and he'll do whatever she wants because he can't get ass like that, whereas gay guys are like, "Well, some twink will be trucking up in a bar." And otherwise, like, "I don't want to live with some skinny ass twink anyway, I'll feel fat." Well, I gained 20 pounds, so I've got to break up with you and date a fatter guy, so I don't feel stupid. Jenny, the way it works on the podcast is about at least once in every show, Ronnie says something that's sort of like peeking inside his life. Hey, no, I'm just saying, I always find it amazing with these guys. It's like, he's a billionaire, and he's worried about this stupid, Tracy Lorde's looking hooker. Like, "What do you care?" But to him, he's like, "This is the last piece of ass on the nose if I'll ever find it again. I've given up my entire family for this one." Like, you know, gay guys just aren't like that. I'm like, "You ain't getting my money. I could have sex with you for free. That's why gay strippers never make any money. We could just go to the gym and see that shit. Why am I going to give you a dollar?" Yeah. It's true. It's very true. The girls are scandalous. No. Don't get used to it. Yeah. So I think those were the main things that happened, and then they went to the races, and the new girl, the one who's like the Countess, she's going to be the Countess of Sammach. She. And you know this, that's the only reason they've kept her around, just to watch the Americans go, "Can we have a sandwich?" Yeah, exactly. She looks like a bleach blonde Kimmy Gibbler, if you ask me. Is that Kimmy Gibbler from Full House? Oh, yeah. I don't remember that. I just remember the little twins being really cute, and I was wanting to have sex with John Stamos. Well, it is kind of funny to think of Juliet showing this future Countess around her kitchen being like, "And then I want to come back from Chicago, get Cheez-Its, and I get macaroni and cheese." I was like, "Oh gosh, you will never make it in British society." I love, by the way, I love every time they bash Americans on the show that it's the funniest thing to me. I live for that moment. I was like, "That's just so American over." I'm like, "Yes!" I think it's so funny. They've got such a stick up their butt, and I like that they say things like, "Americans have no tradition. That's why they like ours." We have plenty of traditions. Yeah. We like discriminating against races for years at a time and then saying, "Sorry." Yeah. That's a good one. It's great. Sales. I think sales started here. Yeah. Probably. Probably. Guns, shooting things. TV. Fast food. You guys wouldn't have fast food if it weren't for us. That's true. Cars. Slut shaming. Slut shaming. Inspiration. Only. That's tradition. Inspiration. We've been doing that since Mary. It's high gap. That's a good tradition, right there. It's high gap. Also repression of straight guys? Yeah. Totally, guys. Poor straight guys. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Thank God for Reddit. We have a lot of great traditions. Hey, you guys. Speaking of straight guys, what does cosplay cosplay? That's the address of any costume. It's not even a sexual thing. What is it, though? It's not a sexual thing. It's like for nerds that love cartoons, or they dress up like their favorite video characters. In relation to cosplay. So that's like a thing? Yeah. It's like when people go to Comic Con, that's like cosplay, when they dress up like that. Oh, good. Straight people. I feel like gay people are getting a culture and straight people are just like wallowing around doing nothing. Who does that? You're going to go dress like Mickey Mouse or whatever. I mean, what games are the kids playing these days? Mickey Mouse. They're like, I'm a scooter fag from Grand Theft Auto. Okay. What else? Hats. Americans have no tradition. Oh, yeah. I wrote diabetes. That's a tradition. Yeah. Caprice says, Cara Linney is everything to be about her, which is hilarious that you just all the tabloids. Like, five minutes ago. It says, no man who has like meetings with the Republicans every episode and then like salivates anytime her like three of the letters in her name appear in an article. What else happened on this show, baby shower, no, well, mad, blah, blah, uh, campax pampers. What is that about? What? I don't understand. I know. I'm fine. Oh, the girls are leaving. It's finally going to be just you and me. Bye. Bye. Oh wait, they're not leaving. Yeah, it's in the bathroom. Hi. They're going up to the pool. Okay. That's right, everyone. That's how it is in LA. Yeah, we have pools. Yeah, I've got to pull on the roof. I didn't know that. Yeah. I can't wait to pee in it. Yeah. You can come up here and we can spy on MJ's apartment and across the way. Hail, yeah. Oh, I saw some photo of her online and everyone's like, Oh my God, look at MJ. She saw so much weight or is it photoshopped? I'm like, Mitch, please. I saw her two weeks ago walking those dogs. That picture is not real. She doesn't look like she's wearing a very tight bathing suit. Yeah. Like really, really tight. All right. So why don't we move on to New York City? New York. I want to point out that the ladies are staying in somewhere called the beaver cap. Yeah. Beaver and antlers, Sharpie's, which is because when I think of their crotches, I do think of beavers and sharp things. So this was another week in Montana. Yeah. I had to say the producers. I think they send them to Montana thinking it would be like, Oh, won't it be fun seeing these New York ladies in nature, roughing it and all that stuff? But I think the joke kind of backfired on them because this has really been a dull vacation so far. Well, they're not roughing it at all and like if you're going to try and do like that Paris in the cold thing, that simple life thing where it's like rich ladies with stupid poor people, you have to show more stupid poor people. It can't just be the ladies like, I don't know. Maybe they should have made them like go volunteer somewhere like, I don't know, clean boots. I don't know. Do something. Something. Yeah, I agree. So I think the first portion of the episode was Luan still getting like mad at Sonya about like this facialist, stupid facialist causing such a ripple. But then it turns out that Luan just wants Sonya to like her as much as she likes Ramona. Oh, since when does Luan want Sonya to like her so much and since when does Sonya have the thing where she just dislikes Luan, like I just never picked up that vibe. I didn't either but when we were introduced to Luan on the show, I do remember that her first scene was with the Countess and she was like, oh well, we're going to have this fabulous modeling event and we're going to do it at my friend Sonya Morgan's who's just always been the most fabulous person that I've known and she throws fabulous parties and hello and they went through her house and stuff and that was back when Sonya was still like shy and demure and like she seemed like that was back and more that was back when on my blog I did a post of like the top 10 best real housewives and I at that time I put Sonya as number one because she was she was the best I think it was actually before Beverly Hills came around and Sonya seemed like effortlessly glamorous. She seemed above it all. She just sort of like laughed everything off and then the next season she just went fully crazy and has never been the same. Yeah, she went and met so after her first year and she is like a crazy woman. Yeah, now I think she's like a drug addict or something, like there's something going on there that's not just crazy. She's a little bit too much like Ellen Burston in "Recroom for a Dream." Oh my god, that movie, Jesus. Yeah, because you know that there is a big refrigerator that's chasing Sonya down in her head, right? I cannot look at that actress Jennifer Wetzer buns the same. What is her name? God. Oh my god. I just can't I feel bad for every time I see her. I can't believe she had to do a double dildo scene for drugs. I'm still horrified every time I see her in a movie. I'm like, Oh my god, no wonder you're crying like she cries so good in movies. Yeah. I'm like, no wonder all you have to do is think about your double dildo rape scene for drugs. Oh horrible. I'll never be able to watch Labyrinth the same way. I think actually like, you know what, the dildo, I think once you've had a strange like adolescent romance with David Bowie in a masquerade, I think a double-hand dildo is no problem. Yeah, double dildoing for crack is totally normal. You know, I think it's I think it's way more horrifying to have to like like just like roll around with hoggle. So this episode starts with Sonya being a manic in the kitchen all by herself like acting like she's cooking and talking to a printer or interns that aren't there. Yeah. She's so bizarre. She's like, we need eggs. We need butter. What are we going to do with that? Oh, this is all disorganized. You know what? This drives me crazy. I say I play it a night. I don't think I have disorganized. We got to rearrange this right now. I just can't do this like this right now. I don't have underwear. I don't have underwear. I don't have underwear. It gets to stay five feet back. Oh God. Because that young guy was in the room and she's like fixing her hair like she totally has a chance with this 15 year old and she's like, watch out. I'm not wearing any underwear. And he's like, whoa. I'll be back here. Okay. Yeah. If you need me. Okay. He's like, whoa. I thought you had a sea urchin. Whoa. I'm sorry. You know, sea urchin down there. What do you think that Sonia's vagina smells like? Oh, it smells like we're bringing this game back, huh? Yeah, why not? We haven't done it for a long time and we had an open vagina shot in front of a refrigerator. I think it smells like a small cactus that hasn't been watered in about three days. I think it smells like, okay, you know, when you put saran wrap over tuna salad, but then you forget that it was in the refrigerator. But then you're like, oh, it's okay. It's saran wrapped. And besides, I need this pyrex and so you unwrap it and it attacks you. I think it smells like when you've like cooked like a chicken breast and you put it into like a little container and then you come back to it four days later and you open it up and there's that weird smell and you think, wait, is this chicken breast so good to eat or is that just to smell the chicken? I think it smells like a flesh light that got left in a locker room and someone forgot to wash it out for like five years. I think it smells like a pine cone that may have fallen into a that of marinara sauce. I think it probably smells like a sock from a teenager's bedroom that he was maybe putting some like lemon cleaner lemon pledge on to clean something and then just had it on the floor and then used it to splooch all over. I think it smells like a tea bag that someone was accidentally sitting on for three hours. I feel like it probably smells like a bus seat on a rainy day outside an old folk's home. I think it smells like an armadillo that just ran across the street. I don't even know what that means. I think that's a perfect place to end an armadillo that just ran across the street. It has a little bit of perspiration but not too much. It's like and it's like a little startle like there's something there's like some pheromone in there that's like, uh oh, like, you know, like the arm does thing to itself. Should I curl into the ball or should I just like look for ants? So she was going crazy over this young child and it's just so embarrassing. So later they go fly fishing and she's in the, she's in the river or whatever. And someone's like, oh, John, can you help me out? She's like, no, that's not John that Steve. Mark is over there. He's a real professional. I mean, he's been doing this for years like poor kids that they put on their show that Sonya is just like, where are you from? What do you do? What is your penis size? What do you like? Do you like people with no underwear? Oh God woman, keep it to yourself. Like, I don't think your sex drive has to like die, but stop raping children. It's not okay. She, I mean, she's a disaster and you know, in many ways she looks fantastic this season, but when she's out of her makeup and everything, her whole like Botox filled up upper lip looks very strange. It's like a, it really reads of a platypus, you know, like it's like a bill, you know? She looks like a scrapbook. She looks like an armadillo that just ran across the street and is now scratching his back on a stamp pile. Okay, so fly fishing, so, so here's the thing. So, so, okay. So Luan was mad, you know, Luan got mad at Sonya. She's probably drunk. She's like, you're not a real friend. She's not a friend. Not a friend, whatever. So then the next day they have. No, wait, there was something good from that now that you brought it up. So Luan gets more furious and we've, I think we've ever seen her, like furious and like yells and leaves. And then Sonya's like, well, you know, I mean, who cares? So this late, this, you know, facialist was talking about how to like to from 10 different dicks or whatever, who cares? And Heather's like, okay, you need to just stop talking right now because you're just doing more of what got her upset in the first place. And she's like, so was, so the manicure said that Luan, you know, likes being the bottom bitch and up with you, cocky. I mean, who cares? And Heather's like, okay, you made your point gross. I just had to write that down because Heather saying something that genuinely made me laugh and not cringe, but to first. So I have to say, like, congrats, Heather. Thank you. Thank you for making me enjoy you this episode. Yes. So, um, and then it turned into a stupid fight with Heather that I am going to hate for the next five weeks. It turned into a fight over geocaching, which is a new low for the entire. Geocaching, geocrashing, geo, I don't care. So here's the thing. Here are the takeaways in the episode for me. And then I will elaborate, not that I even have to. So all season long, I've, I have actually, I do like Kristen. I've enjoyed her all season, but she is basically a spoiled brat. She really, she is like a, she is like a child and a lot of times that side of her doesn't have to come out, but in these situations, they, it does or she, she feels very victimized at all times, whatever. So they, the women split off to do some activities and, um, so, uh, Luan and Heather and Kristen decided to go repelling down a cliff, which, you know, it is, you know, rightfully it's very scary, um, and, and Kristen's like, please guys, I'm going to tell you what I tell my asshole, husband, Josh, don't say anything to me. I just, I just don't need to get into his own. So within seconds, Heather is such an undermine or Heather's like, you've got a baby, you've got a mama. Like, you know what? You don't have to do it. If it's too much for you, you don't have to do it anymore. You don't, you don't have to do it. You can turn around. You can stop. You don't have to do it. If it's too much. I'm going to make fun of you for being a quitter. I mean, but just come back down here. Keep the pooch. Keep that pooch that you've got there. Just come back here. No one cares. No one's going to mind mama. It's okay honey. It's okay if you're a loser. The only one who'll know that you can do it mama is yourself and you know, that sure may haunt you, but that's okay. We won't hold that against you mama. Yeah. It was honestly, I thought it was like, I thought it was actually kind of like really bitchy, but so anyway, so Kristen does this thing and she's very emotional about it. And you know what, she, I actually thought she brought up a good point, which sometimes you know, you do find yourself in a situation where you're like, I want to prove it to myself that I can do it. And she's like, you know, what if something were to happen to me and what would happen to my kids? What would happen to this and this? And just because I wanted to prove something that I could do this, like it's stupid. And I kind of agree with her 100 percent, you know. And so she was like an emotional wreck afterwards and I don't know, I wasn't mad at her for being like that. I mean, I thought it was fine that she's okay. I thought it was okay for her to cry afterwards, but then Heather was totally making fun of her about it, right? It might, this is around where I fell asleep. Am I correct? She started to make me cry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm listening to you. Yeah. So, okay. So whatever. So they do this whole thing. And so then they go on to the next activity, which is geocaching, which so funny that they decided to make these women geocache, because it's like such a random activity and such a non-cinematic activity, you know, it's like, let's walk around. Well, I think that they're thinking it could be fun, like because it's like a treasure hunt and watching these ladies try to find things that would be so funny, but no one will do it. Like no, they get wasted at lunch. So everybody's just like stumbling around shitface, not understanding what it is. And Romona's like, boy, I'm going home. This is ridiculous. I'm not doing this. They're like, Romona, come on, she's, they said there might be lions and tigers and bears and she's like, it's better than this, this is stupid. My father always said, you know, you don't have to use a machine, you don't have to do a geocache. Okay. You don't want to go looking for treasure. You're supposed to keep your own treasure. Okay. My father will always hide little things in the backyard. Okay. And so when I go and try to find my father's things, it would make me think of my father and that makes me think of that time in my life and it's very hard for me. Okay. So I have to go home and I have to hold my own items. I don't want someone else's hidden items. Okay. I'm sorry. That's just the way it is. When I was young, my mother, she would start looking for her keys and she'd be like, where's my keys? And then my dad would go, I, I hid them and so you have to find them. I'm going to give you clues and my mom would be like, oh gosh, I got to go. I got to run a carpool and he'd be like, no, you're going to, you're going to follow my clues. You're not getting your keys. And she'd be like, okay, what do I do? And there was no GPS back then because it was the past, you know, it wasn't the future like now. And so we'd be like, where do we go? And he'd go, you're cold and then we'd walk one direction and he'd go, you're warmer. And then we'd walk another direction and it'd go, you're warmer. And then we'd walk another direction and he'd go, you're warmer. And so now I'm always warm and I have to have the air conditioning on at all times. When I was younger, my father had a very close friend, okay? He had a very close friend named Geraldine Parsons Smith, okay? And she would come over for dinner and she was very nice to me. And I always thought she was a lovely woman, okay? But you know what? Her initials are GPS, okay? So when I look at a GPS machine, I think of Geraldine Parsons Smith and it makes me think of my father, okay? So I can't hold GPS, okay? I'm sorry. I can't. It makes me think of Geraldine Parsons Smith. Sorry. Oh my God. Ramona is so fucking crazy. I love every second of it. Should I call the people right now? Should I call her? I'm going to call the Viva. A Viva. A Viva. Oh, did you hear, by the way, I think this rumor has already been disproved. But I know everybody who listens to this has already heard this. It was rumored that George, the father, is getting his own spinoff show with his new bride to be, The Nail Lady. I can't imagine people would actually want to watch that. No, that's crazy. Okay. You heard it here first. It's bullshit. Like that's something that can go on like the outdoor network or something like the rural network. Or whatever network they show barnyard animals on, that can be bad. You know, the way they have like the cattle drive show or like the cattle auctions. So but anyway, so getting back to the geocaching. So Kristen's like excited about this for whatever reason she's excited because it's super easy and it's on flat ground. And you know, I'd like all the power to her, you know, if she wants to do it, she wants to do it. And I get that. Like I understand. Well, Carol actually gave a good psychological breakdown of why it was important. Absolutely. Carol did a great. He's like, well, she felt very out of control when she was coming down the mountain. But then she can control because she can walk around with the machine. It's like very well said, have you been on the news? I know. She's actually a smart woman. So, so the thing is that like, you know, the people were sort of doing it, but Heather was being honestly Heather was being kind of a bitch and there was like not wanting to do it. And I don't know. I've been in those situations before when you're doing an activity and you're into it and you know, be fun for the whole group of everyone who's into it. But there's one person who's not into it. Well, no under my bear. A lot of people weren't into it. Certainly people being nice to her about it were Luanne just because she's like, we're both from Connecticut. Sonya's like, I wouldn't brag about that, which is hilarious. I mean, it's like the widest place on earth. But so now she's bonded with Kristen. And so she's going to try and be nice. You know, it's like trying to placate your daughter. And then who was the other one that was being decent? But the other ones were just all wasted wandering around the woods, throwing sticks and laughing stuff. Yeah, I barely had any idea what was going on. But at the same time, Heather was being a little bit more antagonizing and it sucks. It does really suck when there's an activity you're excited about. And there's one person who's like sort of being the ringleader of like being not into it, but like whatever. And I definitely understood Kristen's frustration because I'm also sort of like a spoiled girl inside. But she was very spoiled brag about it for sure. But I don't know, for some reason I oddly enough was on Kristen's side in that situation. She's just too much of a whiner. I mean, I think they're doing something like that and like 80% of the people don't want to do it and they're off getting drunk and having fun. You need to just put it aside and go be drunk and have fun with your friends and not worry about it. You know, and then maybe if you drink a little more and you're all doing it and you're all having to. But I mean, Heather and her, Heather and she were on each other's nerves anyway. And apparently they've been friends for years. I didn't know that. I forgot that part. But they're like, they've known each other for a long time or whatever. So I don't know. Their fight isn't fun. It's like sisters fighting. Like you're mean to me because you think the part mean, but you want to if you didn't have to compete with me all the time, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It was like the dumbest, most boring fight. And now we have to hear more of it next week. And one thing about this Kristen chick is she never lets it go and actually neither does Heather. But this is going to be not it. I was going to say it's going to be interesting, but it's really not. Well, it's more interesting than half the other stuff that happened on this episode. So I'm all for their little bickering, you know, like she's awesome. Oh, where's the part where Mario is caught fucking an intern or something? I know. When's that? I'm ready for that. I would much rather see that. I know. I kind of feel bad. I feel like we've been telling people to watch this show because it's been so good this season. And then they get to the vacation. And this vacation's been a dud and New York always has the best vacations. They have the best vacations. I did laugh a lot during this episode. I thought it was really funny. My, I guess we'll end on a positive and that was my favorite line when Luann is yelling at Sonya for not telling the facialist to leave for spreading rumors about her. And Sonya is like, what? So she said to you like, so she said you're having sex with French men. I mean, it's better at least you're dating someone. It's better than dating. No one who's French. So stupid. But I love, I love the show, but I think it might be over. I mean, I think they're down to like a million viewers, which is sad. I think it might be nearing the end of house last time guys. We've got real housewives of Miami circling the drain. This one now. What's next? Uh, I don't know. Maybe OC. I'm still doing okay. I guess we'll see what happens. Well, we'll just follow along. And if worse comes to worst, we'll talk about million dollar listing. Oh, please don't say such things. Okay. Close it up. Benjamin. All right. Well, everyone, thanks for listening. Um, thank you to our friends who came flittering through the podcast. And thank you for everyone for putting up with them. And, um, you can, uh, like us on Facebook, facebook.com/watchworkcrapins, it's so fun, so cool. We have a lot of people who are, who are active on it. They're funny photos. Funny links. I mean, I'm telling you, you should see that picture of Brooks up there. That's in DC sent to us. It's really good. Um, I'm sorry. It's just, it's really good. Just that, that's the way it is. Okay. That's just how it is. 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