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What happens? What happens? What happens? What happens? Hey everyone. Welcome to Watch For Crapids, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just all love to watch so much. I'm Ben Mandelker from BsideBlog.com. You can find me at BsideBlog on Twitter and on Vine and on Instagram and Pinterest or wherever else you want to search me out. And joining me, perhaps not as always anymore because he's gotten himself a brand new brand. He's gotten himself a brand new job and has got work obligations so we haven't seen him for the past few weeks. But he will be back normally. Mr. Ronnie Karam. Hello. Yeah, I'm back. It was just a couple of weeks for Crazy Times. Ronnie was just sort of like figuring out his work life balance there a little bit. Well, it's not even just this. It's like all the hours of shit to watch to do this. Oh. It's like, you know, it's like, if you add it up, it's like a 12 hour day. I know. Tell me about it. Please watch what Crapins. I mean, I haven't even watched Marriage and Medicine this week. And I just caught up with all those southern charm episodes because we keep every week. I was like, yeah, this week we'll talk about it. This week we'll talk about it. But every week I never do because I have not caught up on it because of all my traveling. So we're both sort of like recalibrating here a little bit. And while we do that, everyone, go check out our Facebook page, facebook.com/watchworkcrapins because there's all sorts of funny stuff on there. Gossip news, just fun people being snarky and funny. And the other good thing for why you should follow our Facebook page is because you never know when one of us is going to post a nice juicy items here from the streets of LA. And yours truly got to see some bravo liberties up close and personal on Sunday. Did you see that? Yeah, I'm looking at it. I'm looking at it right now. So it says, Andy and Todd. Here, let me -- why don't I tell the story? So I can make up the story. Ben was out looking for penises. And it's that some bust of watched out dealersters showed up and Ben peed himself and met them. Pretty much. I mean, that was -- so let me -- let me draw my Heather Dubrow attitude for one second. And say that I was with some friends and we're walking to the Abbey. I was with my friend Laura, who's in from out of town. And I was like, we're going to go do Sunday fun day. It'll be fun, et cetera, et cetera. And we're just walking up Robertson and there were Candy and Todd just strolling down the street hand in hand on the other side of the Abbey. Just alone, just walking down. I had no idea what they were doing or where they were going to or where they were coming from. But they were just, you know, strolling down the street. Just Candy and Todd. Just amazing. You should be able to book on that. I will. It's going to be called now. See, now. Now we was just walking down the street and there was with Todd. And see, now is a beautiful day by Kendi Burris. I don't forget when she's trying to get a cab. Mother's love. So then I went into the Abbey and about like an hour and a half later I saw Derek J walking around in his big old high heels. He was more wearing wedges and then, you know, I couldn't bear to look anymore. So I didn't even bother really registering any more than just I saw his heels and I walked away. I mean, what else was I supposed to do? Be like, oh my God, I love your show because I don't. And then like seconds after seeing Derek J, my friend Laura was like, bad, bad, bad. Look. And through the crowd there I saw Reza. Reza with his boyfriend, fiance, Adam, et cetera. They were partying. So I guess the gossip is that they're together. And that's basically all the news I have to share. I just saw people. That's good stuff. Reza walks around my neighborhood sometimes. I don't know who he knows around here, but I see him out there. I'll slime it up my sidewalks. Really? That's strange. And I got empty across the street. We should do a double date. You and me, Reza and MJ, we could talk about the neighborhood. No, because we could never do that because the difference between me and you is you actually like them. I hate them all. If I see Reza in an elevator, I want to start myself on fire just because I know he'll go to. Yeah. Well, I did see Lillian in an elevator. I was an elevator with Lillian, my parents, as I've mentioned many times on this podcast. Thank you. Going up and going down. We're going to CVS. We were going to CVS. We're in the CVS elevator. And yes, our CVS is in that story. I had enough of that story the second time I heard it. There will be no more Lily today. No more Lily stories. Well, we were actually a little bit in a rush because Ronnie has a heart out in T minus 53 minutes. Yeah. Let's do it. So what have I meant? So you have talked to Katie and Matt over here. Yeah. The shows have been really good. I had to spend the weekend just watching Bravo. Yeah. And it was so much fun. Everything has been so funny. I'm especially loving Real Housewives of Orange County maybe because it's newer. Yeah. Real Housewives of Orange County is, I am thoroughly enjoying it. But I'm also loving New York this season too. Which one do you want? New York is fantastic as well. All of them actually. All of the housewives that are on right now are really good. Well, let's start with New York then. So this week on New York, Sonya was delusional basically and Ramona was delusional. So that was basically the long and short of it. I don't remember how it started, but I do know that at one point like Luan, Sonya, Ramona, and Aviva were all sitting having lunch or something. And Sonya starts talking about the products that she's working on. And it was just like hilarious and sad to see the level of delusion that she has. You know, I have my napkins that I'm doing and I've got my toaster that I'm doing. And it's a whole lifestyle brand. I'm doing flip-flops. I'm doing bagel cutters. It's like a Sonya lifestyle. And then they're like, what's the point? I'm doing those plastic forks that don't look like plastic. They look like wood. They're really plastic. It was like, I couldn't help but feel like she was like coming up with things off the top of her head. She was just like looking around and saying it was part of the Sonya collection. They're like, but what's the actual product? She was like, I told you already. I told you guys a million times what I'm doing. Nobody here listens. Nobody here listens to anything. I told you a million times. I'm bigger than a toaster. Yeah. I'm bigger than a toaster. I'm doing white diamonds. I'm doing sunglasses. I'm doing the things, you know, the corksicles, but it's like going to be like, it's going to have my face in the corksicle. That's I'm doing one of those. I'm doing Britifilters except it's not a Britifilter. It's called the Sonya filter because it has a J on it when you put the water in. I'm coming out with Orngina. It's like orange juice, but different. Are you, you know, you've heard of Coca Cola? You've heard of Coca Cola? I'm coming out with coca Sonya. Okay. It tastes very similar, but it's me. This is my. This is me. Okay. You ever been to Ikea? I actually am building a warehouse, a furniture that you could put together, but it's not called Ikea. It's called Sonya. It's like I'm thinking big here. It's just sent teenagers to rich people, but fiddle around with it. Some tape and fill it's all put together. Yeah. You just get some interns. The interns are going to come in and they're going to build all your furniture for you. I'm thinking big here, singer. I'm thinking big here. I love that she threw a party or whatever that was. She threw a party and was like, oh, I just want you to know this isn't an intern. It's a real bartender. Like, congratulations. She wants, she wants thank you cards for actually paying somebody some money. Exactly. And then later on, you know, she was, she really didn't like Ramona's. She didn't like the way Ramona was coming at her last week when Ramona was kind of like, listen, like you're, you're, you're unfocused. And I loved how this week, Sonya was like, what, you know, she thinks, she thinks, you know, like, like I'm just like some, I'm a puppet, you know, that I'm not here to make people laugh. I'm not here to make people laugh. When a week ago, her whole thing was like, I'm a comedian. I've always been a comedian. All my years. I've been a comedian. I've been a comedian for 20 years. Like, okay, don't cry. But I'm not here to make people laugh. She said, I didn't, I didn't say I was a good comedian. I'm a bad comedian. I don't want people to laugh at me. Well, what was all this stuff about Ramona running into her boyfriend's mother or something, and like talking to the mother. And so he didn't show up on a date with Sonya. What the hell? Here's Sonya's biggest illusion for her to think that because Ramona spoke to this guy Ben's mother, that Ben was therefore turned off, no, the reason why Ben didn't want to go on another date with you, Sonya, is because you're crazy and you're poor. Like, if you were crazy and rich, okay, here we go for it. But you're not bringing anything to the table that he can't already get. Yeah, and also you're covered in like sealed placenta on your inside. Like seriously, get it together with all your rejuvenation because you're killing the entire ocean to do it. And I think also it's fair to say that he probably wants someone with a focus business plan. He wants the toaster. He doesn't want the toaster and the white diamonds and the table cloths. Ben's a very focused man. Yeah, all people are like collectibles. Just don't get one off the street. You can just replace them. Just don't, he probably just replaced you with another tight-faced, crazy person trying to sell toasters on the street. Yeah, it could be that too. I don't know. I mean, I think if you're gay, I don't know how you could stick it in Sonya, right? They've had sex before, right? I don't know. I get the impression that she's just trying to create the impression that they've had sex. Oh, she's looking fantastic. She really is. Uh, yeah. She's been, I think-- I don't know. I don't know. I think that after watching these shows for so long, we get a different view on what fantastic looks like. I mean, she looks fucking crazy. She looks like an extra fruit bee. And we're like, wow, she looks really good. She doesn't look really good. She looks horrifying. But comparatively, I mean, I guess-- I think comparatively, on the Sonya scale, I think she looks really good. I mean, sure, she may peel off her skin and reveal lizard underneath. But hey, I think she looks pretty good for a lizard. I saw-- I did not see the show, but I saw the preview for Watch What Happens. I think yesterday, I don't even know what it was, but Cameron Diaz was on it to promote her new movie. Yeah. Now, she needs some Sonya eyes in. Yeah. I was like, Evan Diaz, whoa! I mean, look, here's the thing with plastic surgery. If you're as rich as Cameron Diaz, and it still looks stupid, it's just not ready for prime time yet. That's what I say with, like, hairplugs, you know? Because I could use some hairplugs. But if Bruce Willis as rich as his ass is, or like Nicholas Cage as rich as his ass is, if they stuff about terrible plugs, it is not ready for my head, because they've got all the money you need, and it still looks bad. Yeah, I agree. I did not see Cameron Diaz, but, you know, I think we all were expecting, you know, the face left was going to be coming soon. And, you know, you could tell she was not going to age gracely. She's a star. She kind of looks like her character and Shrek, but she's not green, and she doesn't have a horn on her head. But she's got that, like, rounded, the rounded, claymation features of her character. Shrek is a Shrek. She's like a hot gumbie. God bless her. Well, thank God she's a brilliant actress. She doesn't know when she goes. I actually love Cameron Diaz. Just kidding. Okay. So, the other thing is that -- wait, so here's the thing. So, Sonya got mad at Ramona, because Ramona called up Ben's mom. Do you think that -- do you really think Ramona should have done that? And do you think that's really why this guy stood Sonya up? Yes. I think his mom probably yelled at him, and threatened to take away his black card. That's true. Yeah, I guess it's a good point. You know, she's probably like, you're sleeping with one of my friends, and no. I will take your Amex, and I will break it into a hammer, because it's made out of stone, because it's a black card, and I will take it. Do you think Ramona should have spoken to the mom? No, Ramona's horrible. She's going around ruining Sonya's life even more. It's like, yeah, Sonya doesn't need -- look, everybody who has page six knows what's going on with Sonya. Okay, we know she -- I can't even believe she's still in a house. Yeah. I can't believe that has not been, like, sealed shut yet from the inside and the outside. But you don't talk about it on TV. And Ramona's going to get a really good taste of it when her husband's fucking around, because you know that Sonya will take revenge, and she will talk about that all over the TV in every scene. And Luan will, too. Oh, yeah. Luan will love it. Yeah. I will love it. I can't wait. I'm so sad that the season was done filming when all that shit came out. My mother always said, do you've got to find another -- you've got to find your own friend to talk about the indiscretions about, because you don't want to rely on a man, to talk about the indiscretions. Sonya, I want to have a serious conversation, because -- and that's why I'm going to have some wine, but I just want to say that you're losing it. Your house is going to be gone. You need to look for a two-bedroom apartment. I just wanted to say that on national TV that you're going to go broke. And Sonya's like, but have you read the secret? So just like -- I mean, if there's any proof that the secret doesn't work, you're it. I know. She's like, listen, I'm all set. I'm lighting a candle. I've got an abundance candle. It's all going to work out. Oh, I'll set abstinence. I'm going to let my abundance candle. And who's going to pay for it? It does not count if you're lighting an abundance candle that was bought like five years ago and is now technically in bankruptcy court. I know. The candle actually belongs to Rax. It actually belongs to the Morgan family. The candle actually belongs to those people that you promised you were going to fund their movie. My mother always said you have to buy your own abundance candle, because you don't want to rely on your husband's abundance candle for when you need abundance. Sonya. Well, you know, it's not like I don't know anything. Look, this is how it works in business. I mean, it's like with the movie business. Sonya, the movie business of why you're like $20 million in debt. Yeah. I think you know how the movie business works. The movie business is the most unreliable, awful business, probably next to being a restaurant tour. Like, you don't know what you're talking about Sonya. Yeah. You need to just back the fuck down. Yeah. I did like the when Ramona was like yelling at Sonya at the spa. I was like, it's incestuous. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's incestuous. It's incestuous. So what happened to the spa? Because I was listening to it at work. So I was listening to it like it was a long record. Like I couldn't see it. I was just listening to the soundtrack. So I gathered that somebody got a glass of wine thrown in their face. So what happened was like, I don't know, like, Kristen was razzing. Ramona a little bit about, like, meddling. And then Ramona, like, says like, oh, you have to calm down. And then, like, took her wine glass and, like, threw it at Kristen who's in a hot tub. But it was like a playful throw. But Kristen was like, what evs? And so she took, like, water from the hot tub and splashed at Ramona, which was a big no-no since Ramona had done her hair to go the Hamptons later. Oh, God. It was pretty much like the pinnacle of middle school behavior. But, you know, Kristen was right, though. Kristen, I mean, I think -- Yeah. I do understand, you know, what Ramona was saying was like, you're already wet. You're in the hot tub. So I do kind of get that, but it still -- she should have done it. Well, so what? You don't get to -- you don't get to just throw things at people. And then you don't get to throw people -- throw things at people who are in hot tubs and expect them not to splash you back. That's, like, the first rule of hot tub. You'll get a splash. How about we sold me? Yeah. Ramona, Ramona, Ramona. Well, one thing I wanted to say about Heather is she finally did it. She finally made that fucking comment that all the younger houses was made. Whenever they get back into a corner, they make some comment about age. And then it's like, "Bitch, you just got told you were too old to be a model anymore. I don't think now's the time to be calling anybody 70 or whatever." You mean, Kristen? And she was like, "Ramona, it doesn't -- oh, whatever. Yeah, Kristen. Doesn't Ramona know better for someone of 65?" I was like, "Oh, God." So you called her old. Congratulations. Like, you know, you're going to be there in, like, five minutes, right? Especially after being on this show. Yeah. So let's see what else happened. 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I got money in the bank. I got money in the bank. I got money in my whole bank. And as someone put on our Facebook page, that money is from the life insurance policy from when her son died. So maybe it's just stopped rolling your head around and snapping your fingers like you actually had a job during that money. And stop bragging that you still got money from when your son died. Because that's like the worst, most tacky fucking thing I've ever seen. Come on. Yeah, I don't think you can simultaneously say, "You know what? My mama said to me, you will knock on welfare. You are going to find a way. You're going to work to put your kids a life, which is totally excellent." But then you can't say that. And then also then be like, "Well, where's my paycheck from Candy?" And be like, "I don't like Todd because then I'm not going to get my paycheck." It's like you're either work hard and do everything yourself or you're like, "Okay, just give me a paycheck, but you can't be both." Also, her daughter was famous when she was like 14. Yeah. Give me a break. Like you've been supported for a really long time. And then I love that candy. I mean, it was kind of Candy's probably going to get shipped for this for the rest of her life. But the fact that she actually did kind of tell her mom off, like, "Don't pretend I don't give you money. You know, you was giving me $700 a week!" Yeah, but you were spending it all on gambling and taking credit cards out of my name. It was gambling and home shopping network, which I love. Oh my God. And I take credit card numbers out in her name. That is illegal. That is so wrong. I feel so bad for poor Candy. If I had to realize what I'd be seeing just a few hours after seeing her roll down the street, I would have given her. I'd be like, "Candy, I've been like, "See now!" "Rally!" Like, "You guys gotta go away from Mama Joyce now!" "See now!" "Rally!" She was like, "Yeah, Mama Joyce wasn't even fun to wear. I have a lot of stuff that I want to make fun of her about." She was just so gross and embarrassing. But it's true that she got her own show. That can't be true. No, I don't think so. I think she's angling for one eye. Obviously, she's going to be on the spin-off show with the wedding. But, honestly, when they're talking about Todd's mother and Mama Joyce with a big smile on her face, she's like, "Ooh, she come, a bitch!" I was like, "Oh!" And she's like, "I almost reached over the table and grabbed her!" And I'm like, "Oh my gosh. You are crazy right now!" Like, lunatic. Like, scary eyes. Like, you're so proud of all this behavior, but that's why everyone hates you. And she's like, "No, everyone loves me on the Twitter. It's just that. There's those people on the Twitter. They got mad when I said..." What was it to say about that? Setting up Todd. That was the only thing that got people mad. Yeah, and I love that Andy's like, "Oh, really?" Uh, but this was part two of the reunion, too. Okay, this one got me really infuriated right from the get-go because fucking Andy is the biggest pussy I've ever seen. He makes me crazy. First of all, that big fight. Why is it okay for Kenny to have a bullhorn in someone's face and be, like, sticking a pointy thing in their face? And he doesn't say anything. He just sits there and laughs at it. Like, it's the most hilarious thing. Then that girl gets a smackdown. He's like, "What happened?" I know. What happened? We don't condone violence. Bitch, please, you set these women up to tear each other's throats out week after week and ruin their fucking lives. And then you sit there with your cross-eyed, one-half-open-eyed, saying, "Oh, we don't condone violence. Fuck you. You are the lowest of the low because you set all this shit up in the first place." Yeah. Broly. I hope he gets his ass kicked. I hope all the abusive housewives come on and just beat the shit out of here. It'll happen. He so deserves it. It'll happen someday. I also thought it was funny when Mama Joyce was talking. At one point, she said something like, "I don't have a problem grabbing someone's wig" or something like that. And then Andy was like, "Not that we condone violence." I'm like, "Shut up, Andy." Jesus Christ, Eric. We shut up already. I know. No one else got fired for that. Adriana? Is that her name? She didn't get fired from real hospitals. Of Miami? So Miami, for that? No one else got fired for that. That's just bullshit. I don't see a tire cast on my own. But we don't know if Porsche is fired, though, so we'll say. Oh, well, you know, Peter. Peter, he kicked the car. He wasn't fired, you know, but that's because of his artistic expression, you know. Yeah, because it's different if it's a car. It's like a taxi, so it's like not even a real car. Yeah, last time I checked, no one was trying to drive Porsche. I mean, yes, the way they were. Well, you know, Peter has a microphone on his back because he loves music. Kenya? Oh, and I love that Kenya. I think I'm getting them all confused now. But I love that Kenya was like, I think it's wrong to call any woman. Oh, yeah. Or a prostitute. And then the second she gets into, she's like, "You stupid whore. You just a stupid whore. Drop your whore. No one wants you except your vagina. You slag." I think she does. Oh, I know. I loved how Kenya, who like, provokes Porsche, gets in this fight and then immediately she takes this high road where she's like, "Well, you know, we represent a certain gender and a certain race. And like, it should never have to come to violence. Like, grown women should be able to set other things. It's like, don't talk about being a grown woman when you've got a bullhorn in someone's face. You know? That love fades just like, "Oh, be quiet. You bound, lady." I'm not, not Porsche. I'm in Phaedra. Yeah. I'm going to take a bitch down the street by her throat. She ever says one thing about... It's like, "Oh, no. Get Mama Joyce out of here. Please." Mama Joyce was a disaster. She's like, "The only thing that I... The reason I lost the way is because I stress. I need to be stressed, mom. I'm like, "Oh, gosh. Please just get off our screens. You're a terrible woman and you have a wonderful daughter and you are ruining her life." Oh, I know. Candy's so sweet. I just really have my fingers crossed that Todd doesn't screw Candy over because I kind of have a feeling. Like, one point Mama Joyce said was someone brought up that other guy, Candy, was with the Mama Joyce. It's like, "Yeah. And he told Candy had two children and then it turned out he had six. So, put that in your bike." Whatever she said. I was like, "Well, that's a good point. This is not the guy who got killed." I think so. Yeah. Oh. So wait, let's... We only have about 10 minutes left. So, we're not going to talk about marriage medicine this week, right? Because I didn't see it and you said there was nothing amazing happened on it, right? Not really. I mean, that show really just needs that heavenly daughter to go tell everybody off because that little bitch is on a roll. Yeah. I haven't... So, I didn't get to watch this week because I stand my free time catching up on southern charm because I kept on saying every week I got to catch up on it. And I watched the reunion. Did you watch the reunion? Yes, I did. I watched all of the southern charm. I got caught up with all of it. The reunion was... I mean, the reunion was a pretty civil affair. Like, there was truly no tension and everyone was just like sitting around. But, like, lovely. Like, watching a show, first of all, the reunion was fun and it wasn't fighting. Yeah. It was just fun because it was funny. Yeah. And all the people on that show are genuinely friends. They're not put together to pretend to be friends. Yeah. They're all actually friends with each other. I mean, nice to see. Yeah, exactly. And, again, I mentioned this earlier. I was, like, shocked at one point, you know, Whitney referred to Thomas being a politician like Tip O'Neill, and then, like, I think, like, Chef and the other guy started making jokes about Tip O'Neill. And I was like, what world is this where, like, it's a Bravo reunion and there are, like, talks about Tip O'Neill happening and everyone understands what's going on. Like, this is craziness. And then later, like, when T-Rav was explaining the Lincoln, like, about Lincoln and the South and this and that, it was just like, there was just such a, just like, the level of education amongst these people was so much significantly higher than any reunion that's ever been on Bravo. It was, um, just gassing. It was hilarious. And I didn't even know what to do with himself. He kept trying to start shit. And no one would fall for it because they don't even care. They're friends with each other. They don't care what that little queen thinks. He's like, yeah, but Catherine, what did it feel like to hear them talk about the thing? And she's like, well, I mean, I was more mature and not more mature. And they just kept going anyway and talking about their own thing. I think he would repeat it again. But Catherine, didn't it hurt your feelings to see the peer that I'm saying? And she's, then they're like, whatever. It's just ignoring stupid Andy. I thought it was amazing. It's like, you finally get some people with an education. And he has nothing to do. Yeah, he has nothing. And he was just like sitting there over tanned in his seersucker suit. I actually did think it was funny that he made a comment about how the cast slurs a lot because my goodness, Catherine, of all people, oh, she's the biggest slurrier of all time. I was shocked she wasn't slurring more on this reunion because all season long, she's like, now, why is he like, don't you love me? You know, I love you. No, I didn't. So many. Well, I mean, yeah, I saw Whitney. Now you know, I love that she looks so much better. Bigger. Really? I thought she was pretty. I thought she was a knockout when she skid. I don't want a fat shamer, but I thought she was a knockout when she was skinny. I mean, she just had a baby. So probably be that skinny again. But I think she looked so pretty bigger. Although that was that a weave. I don't know. That wasn't working. Otherwise, yeah, she's just so dumb and like has nothing to say. Like, what did they talk about it dinner? She just sits there like a lump. I know. I actually really like T-Rav. I actually find him that he's actually pretty smart. Sounds like he does make terrible decisions, but he seems like a bright guy. And she, at least from what we've seen on the show for the past few episodes, she is so lacking in substance from what we can tell. I don't actually understand why he has chatted up with her. I was so honest that he pretty much says it. I mean, he said it pretty much flat out. He's like, well, it was time to have a baby and. So hard a baby. Wow. Nice. He's like, and even in the reunion, and he's like, well, what about, remember when you told the story that dinner party about the love of your life that got away? And, you know, Catherine was sitting right there and, you know, you really got choked up. If you talked to that lady, he's like, no, but it still hurts every minute of every day. Thinking about that woman who got away and like goes on this whole other depressing thing when he just had a baby with this teenager. I mean, well, Catherine's like, yeah, I'm more in love now. So it's okay. Yeah. And she kept going. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like you're in love. You know, now I'm with her and she's the mother of my children. So there's that. Yeah. What I don't understand is why Jenna was a cast member on the show. I mean, she does. She did nothing all season except rock, a ridiculous hairstyle, which looked even worse on the reunion for some reason. Like, I couldn't think that hairstyle could look any worse and it did. And she said two things on the reunion, which was basically that her sugar daddy broke up with her and she's running out of money. And that's it. Yeah. She looks like Edward says her hands with chipmunk, like the chipmunk version. Yeah. Why wasn't she, you know what? She actually sort of has like a weird punk version of a Tina Turner haircut, you know, which doesn't look good on a white woman. But she was trying so hard to just say anything because of course there's not going to be any questions for her except the sugar daddy thing. She didn't do anything all year. And so she was trying to get in on everything. And it was just so sad for personality free little Jenna. I don't know why. I don't know why Danny was not a cast member or Catherine for that matter because they were far more interesting women than Jenna and they were far more involved in the stories that were happening. Because it seems like the big shot of this one was Whitney. It seems like Whitney produced it with his friends. And so he asked all his friends and he's not going to ask Catherine. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah. I was so bummed that Pat wasn't able to come on to the reunion because, you know, I just love Pat. I do think that she is the best part of the show and that she needs more and more screen time. She's a horrible human being. Oh, no. She's pretty funny. No, I think she's an awful racist. Kind. But yeah, I mean, she's funny, I guess. I drop with so many women like that and I'm like, oh, God. Yeah, congratulations on fucking your way to a big house lady. Like you've ever done anything. She's like, oh, well, you know, so ordinary. All these people, everything so ordinary. Like you got everywhere with your kind. Shut up. You've never done anything in your life. Shut up. Oh my God. I love her so much. I love her for being judgmental. She's like, I just had greater aspirations for Whitney than being in food service. But maybe that's just me in my old fashioned ways. Is this Naga? Yeah, go sit and enjoy that house that someone else bought a loser. Get out of here. No, no, she's the best. She's an asshole. I do love that Andy was like, well, the real star of the show isn't here today. Jesus Christ. He's such an asshole. I mean, he doesn't even know it. So, like, I want to make a montage of just terrible, stupid, Andy faces. I'm going to do that. I'm going to make a gift of just stupid, Andy faces where he's caught cross-eyed. Or like looking off into the distance when he's supposed to be paying attention to what people are saying. Anyway, I don't mean to get on him. But yeah, you know that mom, I guess I'm supposed to think she's funny, but I think she's an asshole. I don't like her. No, she is an asshole. But that's what I love about her. That she's a judgmental asshole. And I love it. It's just the best. I also think it was, I was shocked as Andy was that Shep had gone to a business school at Vanderbilt. I mean, that's like, what? I can't believe he got an advanced degree, let alone a business degree, let alone at a good school. I'm shocked. Well, I guess the good school is like he is, you know, cyan to a fat boy. Yeah, you just get, they just have a pass for everything. You probably never even showed up and they handed him a diploma. But Shep, you know, I really like Shep a lot. You know, because he's totally, he also is like everyone else. Like, Andy was trying to kind of like bust him about not working. He's like, yeah, I got some funds. Yeah, I'm over educated and under motivated. I'm like, yeah, good for you. Yeah, why should he do anything? If I have eight zillion dollars, I probably wouldn't do anything either. Hell, I don't have any money and I barely do anything. Yeah, I think Shep lives a great life. You know, he goes, he goes hunting for him. He goes hunting and fishing and... And killing, killing and hunting and killing and hunting. Hot kill, kill hot. It's like, jeez, do you have any other hobbies? And by the way, it's funny because if you ever wanted to know, like, is it true that confidence can make someone attractive? Shep is the perfect example. Because you look at him and you're like, oh, he's cute. He's like, this guy, this cute southern, you know, rich boy, look about him. But if you really look at him, he's actually not attractive at all. He's like, lanky, he's got odd posture, he's got big old teeth. Like, so many people would actually find him to be really very unattractive. But because he's like... Very, very, you know, Shep is a darling. He is a darling, a total darling. But I would never open up a hot dog stand with him. He has a little way that he squints his eyes and he's always smiling. Like, he's just a happy guy. Yeah. I think that that's what's attractive about him. He's just confident and happy and ridges. Yeah. And I do like that. He's pretty much out there with his game. He's like, so you want to make out now? You want to make out? We'll make out? Like, remember like an episode or two ago when there was a big fight at T-Rav's place? And like, it was between like Catherine and T-Rav and the other guy. What? And they just, there's a huge fight going on and he just makes like, right into the service bar at the server bar and it's just making out. They just cut to the making out, I was like, that is the best. That is amazing. I'm like, I love the show. I thought it was great. It made me want to go to Charleston. And there was a New York Times article that Andy referenced where it did say people were just shocked and horrified by it. But I'm telling you, I actually don't, I think it makes Charleston look wonderful. I think it makes Charleston look like a place where you go and have fun and they're pretty people and there's nice food and nice restaurants and nice bars. And I want to go. Well, those people are really fun in the cast. I really liked that the eight, I've already said that they're friends. But I love that they can say such awful things to each other. Okay, your best friend was the third one that slept with a woman who's pregnant with your baby, basically, or about to be pregnant with your baby. And you're just like, well, all right, I guess I'll talk to her. I could have been a five season storyline on any other stupid show on that network. But this one they're just mature, you know, it's like, well, what did you think, you know, you said all these mean things about your friends having more money than you. And, you know, you feel like you're poor or whatever. And he's like, well, I did hate Catherine. And I did think she was a stupid slut out for the money. I mean, sorry. And she's like, well, it's okay. We're friends. Yeah. Well, she's also not the brightest. And I also have to wonder about her judgment because not so much about T. Raph, because I know girls can have like daddy issues, but like Whitney. I question the judgment about going after Whitney because I do not get, I do not get the Whitney thing. Like, even if you have daddy issues, why Whitney? Why? Well, he's got his own 21 year old now. So I don't, I just don't understand it. Like I, I'm sorry, people, maybe you can enlighten me. But listen, if you're, if you're someone like Catherine, who's like really beautiful and you can have like any man and she appears to go after any man, why Whitney? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Why not? I mean, maybe he looks better without the chucky wig. Give me the chug name. The Chuck Bass wig. When he's playing. I don't think he's so bad. I think that girl just needs so much attention. They were probably at a party and no one was paying attention to her and he like stuck his finger under a dress. That was the fact. So casual about it. It's like, yeah, that was fun. That was a fun night. And then Pat probably walks in and was like, I hope you use a condom. Thanks. I'm going to get my medicine. Yeah. Oh, and stupid gross guy doesn't wear a condom. He's like, I just assumed they do. Oh, God. What a way to leave your porch in. Stupid. I know. Yeah, seriously. I'm not even talking about like herpes. Yeah. You're worth zillions of dollars. Why would you put strange babies out there in the world? Have you never listened to a Kanye West song? No kidding. That money's going to be leaking out that pocket, boy. By the way, one last comment that I have to make is about Cameron, who I thought looked so smoke and hot at the reunion. She looked dynamite. She looked fantastic. She is so funny. I love Cameron. I love drawing real world and I loved drawing the show and she's great. I think she is now that she's jumped from MTV to Bravo. She give her another season of the show and she could start to rank up there with some of the best Bravo stars out there. Totally. Okay. Let's go through some of these comments real quick. Yeah. Sonya's yellow and white diamond collection. Jordan might watch what happens. Who's Jordan Knight? No, he was in New Kids on the Block. Oh, I don't care. Oh, see Heather on blast. Done. Southern Charm. Done. Warehouse was a New York business plan. Done. I think we actually did it. Oh, Porsche on the view. I did not see that. Oh, it's got a segolia. Segolia. What happened with Porsche on the view? Please somebody go to our Facebook page. Facebook.com/WatchWithCrapins and put Porsche on the view on their plate. Put Porsche on the view. Oh, you know what I want to start doing now, by the way, Ronnie? Yeah. I want to give a shout out to some of the people who have started to like our page. So I want to give a shout out to, oh, well, of course now I can't find the list of the people who recently started to like the page. So you know, it's not going to happen this time, but. Let's just give a list of the people that already do. Yes. Kathleen Becker. Happy birthday, Janice. Miss everybody. Bretton. Let's try to quicken Dan Anderson. Paula Jones. Rebecca. (singing in Spanish) Oh, that was so beyond beautiful. Right, you guys. Right. Yeah. Well, thank you everyone. All right. So, Ronnie, tell everyone where they can find you. Guys, come over to Trash Talk TV. 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