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#122: Ghost In The Machine

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1h 44m
Broadcast on:
10 Apr 2014
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Ben Mandelker (twitter.com/bsideblog) and Ronnie Karam (trashtalktv.com) reunite in a semi-bonkers late-night episode of WATCH WHAT CRAPPENS. The guys take on the latest episode of "Real Housewives of New York City," from crazy Aviva to annoying Amanda and everything in between. Be on the lookout for an extended Ramona-in-Africa fantasy sequence.

Then it's on to "Married to Medicine" where Ben and Ronnie welcome Dr. Heavenly into the fold by giving her a thorough "Crappens" read. Dr. Jackie gets into the mix too with her fat-shaming.

Things then wrap up with "Real Housewives of Atlanta?" as Kandi heads into therapy and Kenya says goodbye to dearly departed Velvet :(

If that's not enough, the guys go through all of Bravo's new programming slate, analyzing the shows that did (and did not) make the cut. Plus, Ben has a long yarn about meeting Top Chef: DC's Tiffany Derry in New Orleans.
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Hey everyone. Welcome to Watch What Crapids. A podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we love. I'm Ben Mandelker from bsideblog.com. You can find me at bsideblog. And joining me is my wonderful and lovely and beautiful co-host, the exuberant, Ronnie Karam, from trashtalktv.com. Hi Ronnie. Well, hello everybody. Ben, it's so lovely to have you back in my lives. Oh, it's lovely having you back in my life, Ronnie. By the way, Ronnie is at Trash Talk TV. And gosh, Ronnie, it's been like two weeks since we podcasted together. I know it's so weird. We had our old little co-host Matt over here last week. I know it's like Deja Vu. I mean, you might have even thought it was April Fool's Day prank or whatever. But by the way, I should mention two things. It's 12.30 in the morning where I am, which is New York. Specifically, I am in my childhood bed. I'm in my underwear in my childhood bed, podcasting. Oh my god. You could be doing like a testimonial from Princesses Long Island. That's what it feels like. And we have some princesses news in a little bit. But the reason if my audio quality sounds a little funky, it's because I'm in my parents' house with spotty Wi-Fi and no fancy microphone. And so this is like the ghetto band version. Nice. I like it. I'm in the ghetto Ronnie version because I'm in my apartment. And that's pretty much the version you always get from me rolling around on the kitchen tile floor. Like a pig in heat to pick you up. I am literally a pig in heat because summer is coming. And I never, I always think, oh, I have so much time to lose 80 pounds. And then it's hot. And I'm just sweating. Like people are like, why are you sweating? You're sitting down in the air conditioning. I think my body just knows that it's hot outside and I'm still sweating. Well, it makes you feel any better, I have been eating my way through this beautiful country of ours. I, since we last podcasted, I've gone to Chicago and New Orleans. And now I'm in New York and I've spent almost every waking moment eating food. I mean, donuts and beignets and like multiples at each time and crawfish and hot dogs and cake. It's just out of control. So, and while I was, while I was on this crazy journey. So I was in New Orleans and I actually have a Bravo story from New Orleans. Who is it? Ann Rice? Yes. Could you imagine? The writing is just about us believable. Could you imagine if Ann Rice were, were on the Real Housewives, if you would be like, "So, who's your ghostwriter?" She's like, "Who's your vampire writer?" And she does write a lot of vampire things like drag queen women. To be fair, an interview with the vampire was based on Aviva and the whole story was, "Is it really going that fast?" The best part of Real Housewives of New York, which we'll obviously get to later, was Aviva seeing that machine that chopped off her leg and going, "You know what, I've got to face my fear. I'm going to go head first into that machine." I'm surprised. Please go head first into that machine. Yes. I'm surprised he didn't put a banner up for her being like, "Hooray Aviva, you looked at a little machine." You did it, raw, raw. And then her husband got into the little makeshift guest room office and there was a banner up. It says, "Hooray, you signed on to our free Wi-Fi. You did it." You did it. By the way, you know, he loves finding Wi-Fi. I feel like every scene he's in, he's like, "Okay, well, I'll let you guys go to it. I'm going to go find the internet." How else could you stay married to Aviva? I mean, if that's not a porn hub premium subscriber, I don't know what is. And by the way, you know, the reason why she would want a banner over that machine is not because she's facing her childhood fear. It's probably because she has some irrational fear of farms now and deserves a banner. That's what she thinks. She's like, "I'm in tall grass. I deserve a banner." I will not eat organic. I've driven further than Westchester County. I deserve a banner saying, "Hooray, you did it. You went on the Taconic Parkway." I'm in the machine. Okay, so let's roll it back. Roll it back. Roll it back. Roll it back. Let's be like a Walmart price and roll back. Our audio today, so I don't know if it's because we're doing this late at night because 930 in L.A. might as well be 1230 in the morning, like the way everyone acts here. That's true. I don't know why, but everything's so kind of muted. I feel like we should be having a glass of wine and feeling see, go through our hair, see air, blow through our hair. See air, it goes through our hair. I feel like this is a loopy podcast already. I feel like I'm already being bonkers. Okay, so here's what happened. I was in New Orleans for a wedding. My cousin, Ariella, married this guy, Frank, congratulations, Ariella, and Frank. Congratulations. So it was this whole wedding thing, and then after the wedding, a bunch of family members came back to our hotel, and in the hotel there was this jazz club. And so it was like, yeah, come back to the hotel, we'll catch up and listen to music. So it winds up being about 13, 14 people that have come back. Almost all of them are over 65. It's like, you know, like my dad, my mom, my aunt, whatever, like my cousin, Jill from Israel, who I haven't seen since I was like maybe two, I don't know, like all these, all these old people, basically. And then my cousin, Shira, who's our age and her boyfriend. So we're sitting there listening to jazz, listening to drinks, whatever. And I see actually a fairly striking black woman walk into the jazz club. And as I look at her, I'm like, I wonder if that is, and I turned to, I turned to my cousin, Shira, and I'm like, hey, Shira, do you watch Top Chef? And she's like, yeah, I watch it. I'm like, do you think that's Tiffany from, from Top Chef DC? Ronnie, do you remember Tiffany? Oh, yes. Tiffany, Derry. Right? Yes, I love Tiffany. Everyone loved Tiffany. She was all really nice, but then she started turning into a bitch at the end. I really liked that. She was, oh, I didn't, I never, I never thought she was a bitch. I thought she was a bitch. She got a little bitchy towards the end. Well, I'd love her. That's her goal. All right. Well, I loved her. That would be a bitch, because that was the season that what's his face won, Kevin or something, and he did not deserve to win. So anyway, so I, I just mentioned this thing to Shira, and we look up at the picture. And while I'm mentioning this, my dad overhears this discussion. My dad's like, who, what, what's going on? And all of a sudden, things escalate from like zero to 60, because now all of a sudden, my dad is like super interested in finding out how I'm going to approach Tiffany. If it is Tiffany. He's like, Ben, this is what you should do. Or how about this? I'll call over the waitress, and the waitress will go over and say something to her, and I was like, oh my God, dad, please stop, because it's like, you suddenly become an eighth grader, you know, when you're with your dad. I don't know if this happens to you, does it, but it happens to you. I do. Yeah. I start yelling at my parents and like, resenting them and then asking for money while I'm still crying. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm like, dad, please stop. I'm like, for some reason, I'm just like super embarrassed, because I know he's going to make a scene, because side story, there is one time when I first moved to LA, I was at the one on one coffee shop, which, you know, the one on one coffee shop, it's a diner in Hollywood. Of course. Of course. Some terrible service, terrible food, but we still all go there and sit there for ten hours anyway. And complain about it. Yeah. Good milkshakes. So never know what Stevie Nix is going to come in? Yes. So this is like in 2002, 2001, 2002, I'm sitting at the counter, my dad and my mom are directly to the right of me, and Johnny Knoxville walks into the restaurant. And so I turned to my dad, I'm like, oh, Johnny Knoxville walked in, and he's like, who's that? And I'm like, you know, he's like Jackass, you know, he's there having some Senate hearings right now. And my dad says, who, what? What are you talking about? So at this point, Johnny Knoxville is walking over, and I'm like, okay, you know what dad? Don't worry about it. Like, be quiet now. You know? But my dad has no idea what's going on. And he doesn't hear what I'm saying. Johnny Knoxville sits directly to the left of me, okay? My dad is directly to the right of me. These two men are separated by a foot in half of space basically, or however wide I am. And all of a sudden, my dad starts going, Johnny Knoxville, who? Jackass? Then what are you talking about? Who is a Jackass? Who is Knoxville Johnny? I was like, oh my God. So I'm having flashbacks of this while I'm here in New Orleans to Tiffany. And finally, I'm like, okay, whatever. I've certainly approached enough reality stars and whatnot in LA to be able to handle this situation, even though I'm feeling such intense pressure because my dad and now a bunch of people in my family are like watching me, and they've actually said that they're going to grade me. So now I'm like, I feel so super awkward, you know? It's like being at a school dance or something and having a chaperone, like your parents is chaperone, like watching you, like trying to dance, you know, am I divulging too much? No, no, go ahead. I'm like, wow, your parents chaperones you? Mine were like, why aren't you going to the dance? Dropped a little Debbie's. Stop crying. Why are you walking back and forth? They're not autistic. You're autistic. Go to the dance. So anyway, so I just like walk over to Tiffany because I'm like, I'm just trying to be discreet of bad, just trying to be like, oh, hey, because I just, at this point, I just have to know because I'm not even totally convinced it's her. So walk up and she's with her two parents and I'm like, excuse me, I have a question. And as I start to say this, it's very clear, this is definitely Tiffany just seeing her face and the way she's already started to react. I'm like, are you Tiffany from Top Chef? And she's like, I am. I was like, oh my God. I was like, I loved you on the show and oh my God, so funny, I was like, we had this whole discussion over there and I didn't know if I should come over and say hi, da da da da. So we're getting, everything's fine, all of a sudden my cousin Jill from Israel comes running over out of nowhere and it's like, oh my God, you're on the show at the Top Chef. Can you tell me about Gordon Ramsay? How's Gordon Ramsay? I'm like, oh my God. No. Oh my God. And then you know. Like, I love your work, Aretha. Yes. She was like, she was like, I love that Gordon Ramsay, I love that Gordon Ramsay. And so I'm like, oh gosh. And she goes, what's the name of the small one, the small one that everyone hates, they all call her bitch. What's the name of that girl? I was like, I was like, Jamie, the scallops, like, no, no, not scallops. You know, when they called the bitch, the bitch, I'm like, oh my God. This is like, my attempt to be discreet is now blowing up in my face. It's like, cousin Jill is saying these things. Next thing I know, here comes my dad and my dad comes over and he's like, no, I just want you to know that we had a running bed over how Ben was going to approach and then here comes Shira. And I was like, oh my God, all of a sudden we're like, and then like Tiffany's parents like, well, you got to take a photo. So now we're like standing up and then we're like sort of posing for a photo together. People in the restaurant are clearing chairs away for us. And then here comes my mom, my mom walks over and my mom thinks that Tiffany's a friend of mine that I ran into. So my mom's like, hi, how are you? I'm Mrs. Mandelker, you know? And now we have like a group of people and all the, all like my whole group is now standing up here. And for some reason, in all this like craziness and confusion, Tiffany and her parents take a picture with me and my parents as if we're like two long lost families that have known each other for 20 years and it was the most like exact opposite of what I wanted to happen. Like all I wanted was family four if not to embarrass you. Could you imagine like, this was like, what I imagine my big fat Greek wedding was like because I never saw that movie, it was my big fat Jewish black New Orleans wedding. I say that because my cousin Ariella married a black guy, not because Tiffany's black. So that's my story. Oh, wow. I hope it wasn't too long for you all. No, that's funny. I'm a little bit like that's funny. I'm opposite from you. You never have any problem going up to anybody. I just, I, I never do. I'm like, oh my God. What am I going to say? I look, I can't go up to them and you're like, Hey, what's up? I'm done. I love you. Whatever. Well, and then they're like, you want to take my picture? Great. So, well, if you guys want to, I'll post it on the page. It's also on my Twitter, be said like, and by the way, our Facebook page, Facebook.com/watch-what-craphens. Of course, you should watch that. So now let's get on to some more interesting bravo news that probably affects many more people than just me and my family. They announced bravo announced their new slave shows. They announced what's coming back, what's new and what is not apparently coming back. So I think- Yeah, they didn't actually announce what's not coming back. Did they? Or did they just not put it on the list? Well, they didn't say what was canceled, but they didn't include certain things on the list. It's real housewives of Miami, nowhere to be seen. Yeah, someone posted on our Facebook of Leah Black Rumor Fix article, and it says, "Rumor Fixed." Leah Black addresses the fact that her show is nonetheless, and apparently Leah said, "Well, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. No one knows yet." Like, thanks to the fascinating article Rumor Fix, so nobody knows. No one's told her it's canceled, but that's so bravo, isn't it? You're just like, "Well, it just never called you again." Yeah, I think that is actually very bravo. Thanks for the fun times. Bye. I think they should move Leah over to Beverly Hills. I don't think they'd ever do it, but they should. I mean, she has a house in the hills as we saw on the show, so they could feasibly put her on there, but I guess the rumor is that Joanna Koopa is going to join Beverly Hills, which is great because all that show needs is another hideous personality. Yeah, who's only interesting if they drink. Yeah, exactly. You know what? She should shoulder some of the blame for the show getting canceled, because she decided not to drink this past season, and you know what? The past season of Miami sucked after the second one was so good. Yeah, she needs to drink warm, and alcoholism is a very good thing on TV. If you're going to get sober, do it when you're not on TV. Do not mess with my season. Yeah, do it on your own time. Yeah, she doesn't mean to shoulder any more weight. Okay, she's got a very large head, a very beautiful model head. But large. No, not the ones. She's sobering enough. Um, so yeah, what else is missing from there? Princesses Long Island. Oh my God, I'm sure there's going to be a rumor fixed with stupid Ashley saying, we never know. Interesting things are happening. The girls aren't getting along. I had a stroke, ma'am, save me, send me a check. Every time I walk outside and see the house across the street with the couch on their porch, I think of that little thing, every single day, oh God. You know what? That show, you know, I understand it was a very annoying show, but gosh, I loved it. I loved that show. I think it was at least interesting. Some of these other shows, I'm like, you know what, I have a theory. I have a theory that Bravo is trying to expand their brand because as we go through some of these shows, you'll see a lot of them tend to deal with like dating and relationships. And you know, this is now two seasons and two years in a row where Bravo has had like a really entertaining all female ensemble, AKA gallery girls and princesses Long Island. Admittedly, gallery girls was far superior. In both cases, they were acts. Yeah, I think it's just because they're too young. You know, the older women don't want to look at the younger women because they have to braise them already, you know, no one's worse in your life when you're a mom than your teenage daughter. They're horrible. They're so mean to you. I mean, I'm not a teenage mom, but I was a teenage girl. Wait, I'm not talking to you. It's late, dammit. But you know what I mean? I know. So, you know, another thing, another show I did not see on the list was I didn't see around the world in 80 plates, which is good, because that show is not good. But also Top Chef Masters, I did not see on the returning show list, which I'm just not interesting. But maybe, but maybe, you know what, though, I think this is like for fall shows. So maybe Bravo's the kind of network to be like, oh, we're not doing anything. Nothing's going on. I brand new shows starting tonight. We're not going to advertise it. But it's on. Yeah. Okay, bye. Exactly. That's a really cool show. And then they don't put it on Hulu. You can't find it anywhere on the internet. They block everybody on YouTube. They're so stupid. They are. Also, from looking at this list, just from the first glance through, it looks like they're like, well, we've got housewives that are successful, Top Chef, and, uh, what's the other one? Oh, and million they're matchmakers. So everything's either a dating show, a cooking show, or an old lady fighting with you show. Yeah. That's pretty much it. And you know, the thing is with, even though Top Chef Masters is not coming back, something called Top Chef duels is coming, when the blurb is the 18 most memorable contestants from previous Top Chef seasons return to the kitchen to compete with each other one on one as celebrity chef Curtis Stone hosts. I have to say that is not interesting. No. And Curtis Stone, Jesus, there couldn't be a more fitting name for a person. Seriously. Unless it was plastic. Well, the thing is also that the whole food competition space has become overcrowded because food network, um, has, of course, turned into the food competition network. Like you have like one 35 second slot of cooking and the rest is like, I theory, uh, doing some like kitchen, kitchen comp, something competition running through a supermarket or chopped version three, nine, 10, I'm not even making a sense. I'm sorry. I'm making no sense. And actually you're making a lot of sense. That's totally what they do. They're like, cutthroat kitchen, it's like chopped, but more like top chef. But instead you have to bargain for terrible ingredients. Yeah. What's the show? Everything is basically like a riff on iron chef or like kitchen, restaurant impossible or kitchen impossible. Whatever it is, kitchen nightmares, it's like, it's all that or, or in chopped. So for top of all I need is Anne Burrell and her kitchen, waddling around, you know, making really fattening food, talking to herself and going, Oh, ricotta balls. I love you. I love you so much. That's all. Look at these cuties. Look at these little cuties. Yeah. Those cuties BTB RTS bring to boil return to simmer and what's the onion chop one? Um, I don't remember, she has all sorts of really stupid camp counselor type things that she says. Um, okay. So let's go down a list. We have odd mom out. Um, that's odd mom out is actually a scripted show. Which should be interesting. A couple of these finally coming out. They've also got this girl, girlfriend's guide to divorce, which sounds like really uplifting. Um, yeah, based on the best selling girlfriend's guide book series by Vicki Iovine. Okay. I don't wonder if that's Jimmy's wife, maybe. So those, those are the two scripted series in terms of unscripted. We have Top Chef duels, which we just mentioned. I'm not totally sold. Similarly, um, there's a show called Best New Restaurant with Tom Clickio that's being produced by Gordon Ramsay, actually. Um, and it's Tom Clickio and company picks 16 of the country's Best New Restaurants to battle, leaving one with a cash prize and the title of Best New Restaurant. Again, this feels like any generic show on the Food Network. Well, this is actually based on Ramsey's Best Restaurant, which is really good. I love that one. I saw, I think I saw the first season of it on Netflix, they have it, and it was really, really good. Of course, the American version will be like really loud music and who wants to be a millionaire set and like people will fall through a trap door to their death if they don't cook something or whatever. But, uh, that one was really good. I hope this one keeps up. By the way, I have to say, I really like the comment that you just made that who wants to be a millionaire set because every modern game show has that set where it's like dark and gloomy and the music is super serious. Yeah. It's the fun sets. I mean, even the taste on ABC was like all serious. Well, that's what made me think of it because I like watching the taste UK because it's really like the music is like classical music and they're in a kitchen that looks like a real kitchen. You know, it looks, I mean, it's the set, but they look more real. And then the American one was like, don't, don't, don't, don't, I hate that. Throw flights and shit. It's like they're making a pop tart. It's like the weakest link. Remember the weakest link? Yes. Whatever happened to that lady. I don't know. She's probably like a judge duty. I'd better say she's probably working at the DMV. Um, okay. So let's go through the rest of these 100 dates. A group of young New Yorkers try to find love in the city in his docu-drama. Oh, so this show, the thing with this is that it's going to be shot like in the same week. Brother styles that way you can sort of like be in on the action. But I don't know who's going to be able to land a date with who who wants to date someone who's being who's dating life is being documented on the fly. I don't know. Yeah, probably everybody. Because everyone's a freaking whore. That's true. What's other in charm? Look at all those old fuckers getting dates. You think those girls are with them because they like balls down to this maze? That's true. It's a camera there. You wouldn't hook up with T-rav if he had the chance. Please, people don't even keep their peepees private anymore. They're all over the grinder. By the way, did you watch "Saturday Night Live" this past weekend? I think there was a veiled reference to Bravo on it because they had some bit where they were interviewing Bethany Ravenel from Charleston, South Carolina. And I was like, that is too coincidental. Ravenel is a big name in Charleston. And Bethany is a big name in Bravo. And they're all on Bravo. Um, well, I don't watch that show. I can't. Is this my life that I'm looking for Bravo Easter eggs on "Saturday Night Live"? I haven't watched that smell in a long time. I don't know why. Um, friends to lovers, you guys, can friends be lovers? Oh, I don't even care. It wants to. It's gross. Manzoid with children is like- Unless I know you first without your pants on, I can't do it. Like, I can't date a friend. I can't do it on that. Uh, I have not, actually. I can't do it. Like, I think you're super cute and nice. Like, there's no reason I shouldn't think you're, you know, like, dateable. But I know you. Why would I want to date you with growth? That's- I can only date you if I've met you naked. Yeah. I- I think that's a good- That's a good way to go about it. Manzoid with children, there's- Do we need anything about this? Unless I'm going to see senior Albert fucking some waitress and, you know, like in his secret apartment or whatever and the guy is like trying to figure out their new passcodes for their Wells Fargo ATM accounts, then I don't care because that show is full of shit. Yeah. Plus, it also sort of looks like it's called matzo. Matzo with children, which also doesn't- I'm sorry. I'm sorry everyone. I'm sorry listeners. My brain is just going matzo with children. Matzo. Matzo with children. Yeah. Matzo with children. Probably just as dry and tasteless as matzo. Yeah. Here's one that I would watch. Euros of Hollywood, 6 Europeans telling from places from Albania to Italy seek to take on America when they move to Los Angeles. I'm in. I'm in for another- another culture coming in with their fucking terrible manners and even making Americans look well-mannered. Yeah. It's going to be like shots of sunset, but these people are going to get really hairy in the ears a little bit later on in my life. No, this will be- this will be hilarious. I'm like, I think that's a great idea. It'll be great. I'm for it. And I'm also for this next one, Ladies of London. This docu-series will follow the lives of a group of prim and proper British socialites and their day-to-day dramas. Prim and proper, I am sold. Real housewives of London. I guess they just didn't want another spinoff, but yeah, I'm excited too. And I really like the things that people in London will wear, like in this picture. One of them is wearing a bright pink dress with these, like, hairy shoulders. And they can always just blame it on the Queen's Jubilee, like, oh well, you know, it's the Queen's Jubilee and whatnot. Well, they just explain it like everything most people do. They're like, "Our country's older." It's like that's it. It's like a dream. Yeah. I've had a 20-year struggle with fashion in London. Oh, my God. They even cut up Keri scenes in married demands. Okay, we need to speed up through this list so we can get to talking about my married to medicine. Okay, but this one sounds amazing too. Game of crowns. Six mothers and wives compete in Mrs. Pageant and Drugler trying to find the right bikini and raising their kids right. Girl, this is the, first of all, the bikini on this woman is a frowning face bikini. I don't have pictures. My article doesn't have pictures. Oh, really? Yeah. My dad's. But this lady, she's wearing this red, white, and blue bikini because I guess that's her theme, it's like an America theme, but the stripes are going down. She's like a booper frowning. Whoops. No. And it makes a lot of sense. No. It makes a lot of sense. No. But yeah, this show is like older ladies competing for crowns and there's nothing more pathetic than that. I agree. I love that. I mean, old ladies would be actually cute. Yeah. But these are old ladies. Almost old ladies. Not cute, sad. Sad. Grasp. That's what we like to watch on Bravo. A million dollar listing Miami. Interesting. A million dollar listing Miami. What is your phone? Oh, I don't know. I like LA. I watched the LA one, but I can't with New York. I keep trying. You're a bit awful. You're a bit awful. You're a bit awful. And I know that the LA one is phoning too, but there's something more enjoyable about it. Yeah. It doesn't seem as funny. I saw Josh. What's his buns? A flag. No, not the evil one. All the nice one. The flag is a nice little flag. Oh, yeah. Evil one. He's not in a little suit or anything. He had your haircut-ish, and he was in little skinny jeans that were rolled up past his ankles and boots. And he was really cute. He looked like a little hipster. So yeah, that one's fake too, obviously, but I like it. Yeah. I enjoy that one. I just, New York, I can't. I just, everyone is so awful in each-- Yeah, everyone's awful. And in a specific way, and you guys know, I have a very high tolerance for awful people on Bravo, and I just, I can't with those three. Yeah, that shows really stupid. Okay, Jersey Bell, I like the name, I'll watch it. Untying the knot. Not watching. Nope. Nope. You will? No. Oh, you won't watch it? Yeah, I can't watch that. Extra parenting. Nope. No. Real housewives. Real housewives. Some other fucking channel. This is 40 year olds with fake problems, all right? Get your fucking babies on another channel. Yeah. Get that on my face. You don't watch that. It's bad enough I have to deal with that shit in public. Yeah. Real housewives of Atlantic Candy's wedding. No. Nope. Nope. No. Unless there's a hidden camera in Todd's car, so we can see where his ass is actually going in mine. No. The best part is that the description for it, they're really trying to make this one stand out from the other wedding shows, so they say, this is going to follow their whole planning process, including how they're going to pull off a coming to America themed ceremony. What? Going to America. Oh my God. I hope they mean the movie with any money, please. Yeah. I have to. Right? What else could they mean? I can't wait. Right. Right. See. Now, when I came to America, I was like, right, I'm going to look at McDonald's. Mama, why you so mean to my momma? Okay. I'm going to date in many way, mama. Okay. We'll head to that girly musical in just a little while. All right. Well, I think we've gone through enough of this. All right. Now, we're going into some other list that's like development. I don't care about development. I don't care about development. The stuff that actually makes it to air is terrible enough without knowing what they're thinking of. But if this shit makes it to air, imagine what they're actually planning. I know. I know. By the way, the XYZ, there you go. No. By the way, below Jack is going to have a whole new cast. I read somewhere. So that's something for some people to look forward to. Yeah. New maids. All right. So let's move on to our shows. Which one do you want to start with? Okay. I would like to make an announcement. Yes. I do not recap. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills lost footage or whatever. And I do not watch it. Sorry. Bye. That so needed to die 10 weeks ago. Bye. See you later. Hope it's with a hole in cast of women, bitches. Bye. Yeah. And I did not watch Southern Trump this week or last week, last week because I was in Chicago. And this week, I just haven't had time to watch it yet because I'm doing all sorts of family stuff. All right. Well, I'm going to be gone from this podcast for two to three weeks. And in that time, you had better have a Southern Trump marathon because people on the Facebook page are like, "Amanda, this show is amazing." I love it. I love Southern Trump. I just haven't had a time to even watch it yet. Well, I was just watching a little piece of last week because I need to catch up with the show because I got another job doing something for the next three weeks. But that's why I'm going to be gone, by the way. But the-- and that's why I'm having trouble keeping up with my, with the show. But at least that one. You know, like I can have my four, but Southern Trump, it's like, "Jesus, how much did this shit?" Well, I mean, I'm even like that when I do nothing with my life. But anyway, Southern Trump, I was trying to watch it right now before we started talking just to see what was going on. And the mother, Whitney's mother, was telling Ravenol, "Well, maybe you should stop impregnating 21-year-olds and refocus." I do not like him. I do not like him. I do not like him. I don't like him. I don't like him. I don't like him. I don't like him. Let me say it again in case you didn't hear what I said. I do not like him. I'm not behind the whole idea of you opening a restaurant. It's in pedestrian and banal. I love that woman. Pat. I love her name as Pat. Yeah. That was wonderful as long as she stays tired. Finally. Yes. Should we start with New York? No, we're not talking about that one. Why don't we start with New York since it happens in our brains just minutes ago? And literally it happened. I just watched it. I just watched it also. Aviva. Aviva. Aviva. Aviva. Aviva. Aviva. What's the deal with Aviva? Because she doesn't even seem like she's that bad. Like, I don't cringe when she comes on. Some of them I cringe, like that Amanda girl, that new girl. Oh, no. Some of them, they just give me that gag reflex. But Aviva, she doesn't bug me. I can see why she bugs everybody else. She is, well, you know what? She's very shrewd, I think. I think she's crazy and she's shrewd. And when I say that she's shrewd, I mean that she is aware of her image and how she wants to fix it. And so she's been going out of her way to seem friendlier and more relatable. And so sometimes you do sort of feel like, oh, she might actually be a cool girl. But then as the, as you saw at the very top of this episode, she's still like a lunatic, you know? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like a crazy, crazy lunatic. Yeah. It doesn't bug me. It does not bug me. I'm laughing so hard at her. I love how she fights by when she's just plainly wrong in lying, which she totally is every time she opens her mouth. But that she doesn't even consider what, and she does, it's like she doesn't even hear anybody else, you know? She wins by just talking over. And I hate that in real life, but on TV, I just think it's so hilarious. But she's also like, she's so self-serving. I think that's what also makes her so awful is like, for instance, you know, she's one of the things after this whole fight that started off the episode, is that her old, her friend who, her friend who maimed her texted her. My God. Her friend. She's like, you look exactly like you did when you were seven. I was like, really? God, what is, what is in the water in that town? Yeah. No. So what happened was this, this woman, according to the show, texted Aviva for the first out of the blue, which doesn't make sense because how would she know Aviva's number? And it was like, obviously, they'd had some interaction. And when Aviva was explaining this, this was clearly like, this was a, this was a third stage scene where they were talking about it. And Aviva's like, you know, like she must just feel so terrible. She just must, oh, she must be racked and killed. I want to go up there and make her feel better. Like, oh, shut the fuck up, Aviva. Yeah. Like, this isn't about you having another fucking scene about your life. It's about the children who don't have any legs. No. No, but it's, but then of course she gets up there when she starts crying at some point and she's, oh, no, I'm sorry. It wasn't before that, before that she was talking to Sonia and she's talking about her book. She's talking about her memoir. She's like, I have a story to tell. I mean, I am helping amputees every single day. Yeah. You're helping them realize they want to throw themselves off the pier, you know, they're like, I don't want to be like her. Don't know. Don't know. She's just like, you know, she's so self important sometimes all the time. I think it's hilarious. It's like the second season of the show and she's trying to, you know, make her image. I don't even know what I'm saying. She's trying to help her image and so she goes to the fucking barn. That was hysterical. She's like, well, I guess the normal reaction would be to feel fear. And I was like, I feel hope go up to that machine, give it a big hug, and let's just see what happens. I don't know. What kind of machine was that anyway? What is the process? I don't know. It said it was a barn cleaning machine and from what it looked like, it sort of looked like it was gathering some hay. I don't know. On the one hand, I mean, obviously, I can see exactly how you could lose a leg in it. Even though it's like so small and not small, but like so dinky, but at the same time, it is so dinky. After hearing these stories, I was imagining giant blades and like menacing groans and noises instead of just like this tiny little conveyor belt that was just like, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, moving along. I was just imagining an old man with cleavers who was just sick of listening to her tell terrible stories. I mean, I will say this, it wasn't, I still respected the fact that, you know, she lost a leg and that's super scary and to come back to the barn where it all happened and everything. Don't give me a break. Oh my God. Okay, and also someone posted on her Facebook page, by the way, Aviva's family sued that girl's family and won $1.6 million, which helped her go to fancy Vassar College. Oh, well, that certainly explains why they haven't talked to those years. Well, that, well, I mean, what I was going to say is I mean, like, no matter what you say about Aviva, I mean, it was a traumatic thing and it is sort of like, it is like somewhat powerful to see this moment, but yeah, but at the same time, the Viva is just awful. And especially hearing that little tidbit, it's like, oh, well, never mind. And also, I believe that she's actually friends with that girl because they're both so, so important. That girl, okay, this woman just got her leg chopped up. Well, not just like 60 years ago, got her leg chopped off and you're sitting here crying because it's all about you. It's like how do you feel? She's like, yeah, I was so traumatic. That whole thing. I mean, of course, you can imagine when, you know, at 70 years old, you feel a huge responsibility. It's like really? Do you at 70 years old? Is that what seven year olds feel? Because I don't know that that's how seven year olds try to like feel. Well, you know, it was kind of funny to me also is that the woman never said anything like, you know, every day that goes by, I think to myself, oh my gosh, like how I have like ruined this woman's life. Can she do this? Can she do that? It was Aviva who said that. I was like, well, you know, she's probably thinking all these things like, can she have a baby? Can she be successful? She's probably thinking about, she's having these thoughts every single day about me. I'm a woman's like, really? Could you come to my house and bring some of that $1.6 million my family gave you so I can save the farm before it gets taken away? She's like, she's like, enjoy writing your memoir that, you know, you took $1.6 million from us and now you're going to capitalize on it with your memoir. You paid for that ghostwriter? The ghostwriter was operating the machine. It was a ghost. So before that, we ended up, we started, we ended up, we started this episode at that fight that we ended with last time, which was in the happens and Heather telling that new girl off, which I love, I mean, I had a girl was horrible. She was being really rude and really loudly rude. I mean, not even like a lightly, quietly rude. And once she got told off, of course, she does what every bully does. She crumbles and acts like a victim is like, you aren't being really aggressive right now. That girl, by the way, belongs on the Orange County cast, not on the New York cast, like she is. Totally. Oh my God. That's the best description of her I've heard yet. She is not in a league with these women and these women are not in any special league themselves, but still they're much better than this girl. Yeah, that girl has a, someone posted this on her Facebook as well, that she has her own website, you know, which who doesn't, but she was posting her bio says, the newest member of the Real Housewives of New York City, come on to my blog and vote for whether I should be a real cast, you know, a regular housewife. And so you go to the poll and it's a poll daddy poll, you know, so she can't rig it. Really, it's not, it's not like move on.org. Change.org is poll daddy, so she can't rig that shit. And it is overwhelmingly like get rid of her, which I love. I'm not only loved that the vote went that way, but that she keeps it on her blog. She probably has no idea how to take it off. She's like, huh, I'm loving Heather this season. I feel like last season in the first half, I really did not like Heather because I thought she was very fake and phony and I felt like she was like a bitch who hid behind this big smile, but now she's just like just being a bitch. And I love it. Well, now you can see that she's really a bitch and she just smiles occasionally to like get a different look on her face like you can't be, you know, like you can't just have the same look all the time or it would look like a mask, you've got to do something else. But she's like a bitch in a good way like she's a sort of bitch that gets shit done. She's like a Hillary Clinton bitch, you know, like she is just never gone, she's never gone against anybody that I've disagreed with her. Yeah, exactly. And I love the way that she went after this Amanda girl. 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Get free shipping on qualified orders. See site for more details. Whoa, like now I see why Heather hangs out with Diddy. She's got real street cred. She is so street. I'm like, these women cannot be more white if they want to be right now. They're like, this counts as street cred, heather, cursing. I was like, no, no, my God, Heather. She's like, yeah, you want to cap in your butthole? Would you like me to cut you from your ear to your ear, Missy? That is for Shizzle. It's like, whoa. It's like, do not make me tag my no-bre on your buttocks, all right, young lady? Whoa, she is so street right now. I know. And I love that they're like, yeah, she hung out with P Diddy. Yeah, she like fitted P Diddy for skinny jeans. But also, it's not like she was best friends with P Diddy, but also like the costume lady on the rap tour who's like, what's up, homies? But it's also like the implication that Diddy represents being the most hardcore of all time. Like, oh, now I see why she can hang with Diddy. Yeah. Like, they're imagining like Diddy and Heather like walking around with what they call the bendoleros or something like bullets hanging from like their shoulders, like they got like like, flash and crypt signs, you know? Yeah, Heather's pretty white, but that's even funnier when she's like, yeah, you need my favorite part was when she was like, you need to say, you're sloppy ass home. Yeah. Yeah. I love Heather. I love that she had no part. And I also love Carol. I love that Carol's just this year, she's like, I'm just, you know, I'll just be a bitch. Yeah. It's like, what do I care? Yeah. You know? I've got maybe like three years left. I'm just going to be a bitch. Like, what are they going to do? What are they going to put on my plates? Yeah. I had it typed out years ago anyway. She's like, Eviva, you said like a ghost writer is not right. Well, she's at that curious age. It's like right before the fruit turns because she doesn't realize that she said the same thing 20 times already, you know, it's like, hey, he shouldn't hurt somebody's career. Women write books, book gate, ghost writers, books, shut up with this is the same thing over and over again. Stop. I love all the different ways that different women try to diffuse the situation like Eviva in the middle of it was like, well, let's raise a toast to women putting pen to paper and somebody's like, oh, well, yeah, pen to paper. That's what women should be doing toaster oven toaster oven. And then I love that when it starts getting really fight like, I'm sorry, when the fight gets really bad, Lou and just pipes and he's like, who wants a tart? Anyone want a tart? Anyone wants a dessert? A tart pie? Anyone? Pie? A tart pie? Yeah, when someone else is fighting, they're also above it. They're like, I cannot believe these two ladies are arguing like really, Lou and do you not remember the lunch that you called just to turn everybody in Stravana and then you left? She's like, okay, I got to go. Bye. Talk amongst yourselves. Bye. Like, if they're not the one being awful, it's just so immature. I. This one was actually good. Heather told this bitch to go suck it. And I love that Carol, when Amanda went over to Carol, she's like, listen, can I talk to you? And Carol's like, I don't know you. I don't know you are. She's like, who are you? Me? Me? Me? I love that no one knows you know- I could just say, I don't know you. No. You can only speak if you know Carol. Yeah. Like, but I also, I like that no one knows Amanda's name, but like the next day they were saying, what's in with that girl? Stacey? We'll just call her Stacey. Well, and Aviva's already disowning her all over the place on Twitter. She's like, well, you know, Bravo just called her my, my, what are they calling her? Her image consultant. And she's like, oh, you know, it's just what Bravo says, whatever, but it's not true. It's just some random crazy person. No. Everybody fucking the, the, that one, Dubin guy. Why? What is that? I don't, I don't know. And, and I don't even want to know what the blow jobs are like from Sonia with that missing tooth. Oh my God. Well, if you've got a small one, maybe it's, you know, structural. I'm just imagining a lot of pubes getting caught in there. Oh, it's like a cheese grater. I can just imagine being like, listen, we can't, I can't blow you just yet. I'm waiting for the poly dent to sit and I don't want to get stuck on your dick. Oh my God. Could you imagine poly dent? Poly dent wiener. Well, good for him for keeping that stuff going. Yeah. He's seriously, he's got it going for sure. Yeah. He's keeping it rolling. What else happened in this episode? Well, they did this. They went on this mermaid parade, which I had never even heard of. I didn't know that was the thing. Honey, no one goes to Coney Island. I went there one time when I lived in New York on accident because I fell asleep on the train and Coney Island is like the last stop, I think, on the end, right? One of those trains, and I think it was the end train because I slid off that train and I fell asleep all the way on the other, like that's how long I slept. I lived on one of the last stops on the end and of the other way. So that's how I fell asleep and I woke up and I was like, what the hell? Oh, well, I've never seen Coney Island. So I walked it. It was so sad. Do you remember that movie about the people on drugs and Ellen Bernstein was like like an older lady on drugs? Yeah, I grew him for a dream. Yeah, I thought it was Coney Island. So there you go. Yeah, Coney Island is, I haven't been there probably since 1994 actually. Not cute. The girl's like, I'm so proud to be the queen of Coney Island. No. Mermaids. No. No. No. But you know, I have to say, I'm really loving the new girl, Kristen. I think she's really funny. I think she is too and I cannot wait for her bitch flag to fly. Because you know what's coming. I know, but she's doing a great job right now of actually being like the Greek chorus. I know that's Carol's job, but but Kristen's doing it because well, it's always the new person's job because they're not involved yet. Yeah, because like during that crazy fight, she was the only one being like, I've been to, I've been to many, many places, barbecues in the Hamptons and everyone like this. Like when she said, oh, my husband wants me to find a new group of friends. No, I'm sure your husband is glad to at least make a car payment. Yeah. I'm glad to get that money and you keep your weirdo new Maggie friends. By the way, while I was watching this episode during that opening fight, my mom was like sitting nearby and she just turns to me because this is like the tradition. I tell my parents, hey, I have to watch a show for the podcast. I'm going to watch it like just I'm just warning you and they're like, yeah, sure, you can watch whatever you want. And within two minutes of it going on, my mom turns to me, he goes, what is the fascination with this show? I was like, what do you find fascinating about it? And I said, everything, everyone's like, it just goes on gels at the TV because she plays canasta at the table with my dad while I watch it. So she's like, who is that idiot? Oh, these women are disgusting, these people are grouse. I mean, the best was when I was watching the Real Housewives of Orange County reunion, like two seasons ago, it was two seasons ago and Tamara was just going horrible. They were all horrible. It was when Tamara was fighting with Bickey. So you've got two crazy people screaming the whole time. My mom's like, who are they, who are their boobs, oh, she's so ugly. You're making your mom sound like that one Fred Armasen character on "SNL" was named, I think his name is like Riley actually, he played like this little eight year old like gay boy who was like, hey, look at that bitch over there. That was his whole thing because it was Sigourney Weaver who was like the mom, Andy Samberg who was like a kid who brought home Fred Armasen, he's like, hey, mom, here's my new friend. He's like, look at that bitch. She, if my mom was an SNL character, she would be that Kristen wig one that I think it's aunt something where she's like, like, about stuff all the time. Oh, brother. I give this movie to Oh, brothers and one, the Matrix is reloaded. What? I give that a ha, I give it a jama. That is one of my favorite, favorite characters of Kristen wig and I don't know why they don't do it more often. I give this movie a ha, and a little brother. Oh, okay, what else happened, I'll stupid housewives of New York. I have to say, real I suppose New York is just cracking me up. Oh my God. I'm laughing out loud at it, so yay, I love that. It is so funny. I don't know, so Sonya had a brunch. What I thought was funny was that Aviva said at one point, you know, with Ramona off in Africa, which is that's law worthy, just saying that much, but she's like, with Ramona off in Africa, you know, Sonya is the only one I know who has my back. I'm like, I can't believe that we're like in a situation where like Sonya and Ramona suddenly have Aviva's back, like, how did that happen? Especially Ramona. I mean, Sonya's dumb enough that I believe it, you know, but Ramona, that's crazy. Ramona barely even does have her back. She's like, Aviva, I think that's crazy. Maybe, you know, maybe I'll talk to her, maybe I won't, but I don't believe it. I think she's going to eat my head off. She's crazy person. I don't like you. It's not that I don't want to talk to you. It's just that I never want to see you again. I hope you die. I hope that's not what she is. You know what she is? You know what she is? She's Day Class A. Sorry. She is. She's Day Class A. And you know what? I don't like Day Class A people. Sorry. Sorry. We were trying to think last week of what Ramona is like in Africa and why the hell we are not seeing that vacation? I know. Well, where are they going this year? Do we know? They're going to like a dude ranch, aren't they? Because they already went to Africa. Do you assume you're wine here in Africa? Because I noticed a lot of mosquito net. And sometimes if you're in a bed with a mosquito net, you can get really lonely in there because you feel separated from the world. And a lot of times people like to drink Ramona Pinot Grigio when they're feeling separated from the world. That's when I drink it. And that's when it makes me feel the most secure and the most confident. I think Africa, you know, you know what goes really good with sacks of wheat that drop from plains that the American government drops? Wine. I think that all these children would be less hungry if they had a little wine. At least hunger would be more fun. Ask anybody on my cast. I'm just imagining her, like, Anna Savanna watching, like, a stampede of wildebeats. I'd be like, calm down, calm down, take his annex. Those two rats, they're so tall. I mean, why do they have to be so tall? I wanted to ask it. Hey, giraffe, why are you so tall? But then it wouldn't even look at me. And I was like, why isn't that giraffe looking at me? After that giraffe. I don't need that in my life. I'm a business woman. I don't need to take that. That giraffe does nothing. It just stands for all day. It doesn't even work. Hey, hey, Lion, hey, Lion, sometimes you talk too much and you need to listen more. I'm just saying, as a friend, sometimes you talk too much, Lion. Simba thought he was the Lion King, but you know what? The first song is the circle of life. Guess where Simba is now? He's dead. And someone else is the king. All I'm saying, Lion, is get off your high horse. Well, hey, antelope, antelope, this is the way you operate. You know, you only like to be friends with people who are broken. I'm sorry, antelope. That's just the way it is. Monkeys? Why are you throwing poop at each other? That's probably how AIDS got started. You know, AIDS can go through fecal matter. Stop throwing your poop at each other, you stupid monkeys. Calm down! Hey, Zebra. Hey, Zebra. Zebra, you're growing up so fast. I can't believe it. I can't believe it, Zebra. And you look so beautiful. You're the most beautiful zebras I've ever seen. And I'm sorry, you're such beautiful, young, beautiful zebras. And I just, I know it's okay. It's good to cry. I will not try and top. You know, Zebra? I'm trying to think of like other animals and other Ramona quotes at the same time. It's like two things I gotta think of at. I'm like, what are the things that we find? What else is in the savannah? They cheat up. I used to get you confused with Rita, and I felt so bad because I thought it was racist. Because one of you is Mexican, and one of you is Puerto Rico, or both of you is Puerto Rico. I don't know. Does it make me racist? Or does it mean that you guys need to have more pride in your ethnicity so that I would know the difference? One of you is on Sesame Street, right? I don't know. I have no idea. You're really hairy now, though. That happens to older women. Hey elephants, I just want you to know, I just want you to know you should always have your own watering hole. Because you never want to rely on a man for his watering hole, so you gotta have your own watering hole, okay? Hey elephant, I love your tusk because they're ivory. Oh my God, that reminds me of Avery. It's good to cry. You were the most beautiful elephant. You and the zebras are the most beautiful animals here on the Savannah right now, and you're growing up so fast. Elephant, do you know how to do a plank? Good, that could help you. Hey what, a buffalo? Hey what, a buffalo? I want you to know that I've worked in fashion for 30 years, and I have a lot of opinion that should be listened to, and I know business, and I know, and I'll tell you this right now, what if a flow I don't like your brand name? You know what else is called water? Water. That's probably copyrighted by somebody. You might want to change that before you come to America, because in America, if we don't mess around with copyright infringement, I'm a businesswoman. I wish I could remember more animals. You are the giraffe, and lion, and cheetah, and antelope, and man, this show makes me cough like I'm still smoking two packs of cigarettes a day. Okay. Hey, Papadamis. Now what? Speaking of Papadamis, let's talk about married to medicine and heavenly. Oh yeah, Dr. Heavenly. But probably it's probably not even time for married to medicine talk, but I just wanted to say Papadamis and heavenly in the same situation, because I loved the fat except in France. I think that it is a great transition. The fat except in France, are you talking about how she went after Dr. Jackie? Yes. Okay. So first of all, welcome back to married to medicine, everybody. Yay. Married to medicine is back. Oh my God, that show is so terrible. I love how they open, like, like, you know how sex in the city used to open every season with the montage of what everybody's doing, it's like carrying on her lipstick and Miranda's you know, trying to catch a cab and a fabulous jacket and, you know, Samantha's fucking a 20 year old, you know, it's like a little five second and this one's just so stupid. It's like, they don't even do anything. Yeah. Quads like doing her nails, Mariah is like walking around her empty backyard, like looking around. My montage guys, thanks. So what struck me about this premiere episode was that the two doctors, the original doctors, not including Dr. Heavenly, they stayed out of the frayed last season because they're smart and they're professional. This season they're like, oh shit, let's just get right into it right away. I think this year, yeah, they're getting into it but they're doing it in a way still that's not the same. I mean, they're doing it in a way that's like, they're very, first of all, they're very arrogant, which I think is hysterical, because they're like, we're doctors and you're not, so we're automatically above you. And so in their minds, especially Dr. Jackie, that's all she needs to win any argument is to say, I'm a doctor and you're not. And she basically does. Yeah. That's how she wants every year. She is actually such a massive killjoy that it's hilarious to watch but I would hate to be in any party with her because that poor woman, that like, Miss Plus size, whatever, comes over and be like, hey, I'm like, I just won the Miss Plus size pageant. And I'm just celebrating a good and happy and healthy life. And Jackie's like, healthy, healthy. You say healthy. I'm sorry. Did you say healthy? And not only that, she stands up like she was just ignoring the woman until she heard her say the healthy part. She's like, oh, excuse me. Did you say healthy? Yeah. I won't even talk to a fat person unless they say something ridiculous like that, their lifestyle is healthy. And that Miss Plus Atlanta or whatever was like, yes, that is what I'm saying. I'm healthy. I may be a bigger woman, but that doesn't mean that I'm not mindful. And I teach every woman to be mindful and still be happy. If you're so mindful, then why are you a plus? Yeah. Oh, no. Dr. Jackie's like, and you call yourself a woman? She's like, you're a beast. I saw you on that Savannah with Ramona Singers. Pretty much she was taking her down. And you know, it was just to kind of stick it to that fat acceptance movement. It's like, oh, you know, first of all, I feel totally that there should be fat. If you're fat, who cares? Like everybody's fat. Like most people are fat. I mean, not where we live necessarily, but everywhere else. Who cares? Be fat if you want to. And by the way, heart disease or a stroke if you want to. Lord knows I will. And I'm not going to pretend it's healthy. I mean, it's not. But let me add also just to interrupt real quickly. This woman was not morbidly obese. You know, she was, she was heavy, but she was not like someone that looks like her. She's like Hollywood plus size where it's like, she's a 12. Like, ooh. Yeah. You know, she was not really that fat, but I love that. And also she was very pretty. And she did look like she was fairly healthy. Like she didn't. She was, she was not like a mobility scooter, you know? Yeah. And honestly, Dr. Heavenly actually had a point which was that this woman, this was like this woman's moment. She's very happy. And Dr. Jackie did really rain on her parade. I mean, and the way they edited made this woman look like she's had to, you know, slink back to a twinkie. I mean, if there's anything that's going to drive someone to eat us to berate them on TV. Well, yeah, but the best part of that was Dr. Heavenly going I used to be plus size. I was like, bitch, like what, a few seconds ago, you still are what, what do you not know tents is yet? Yeah. Geez. And she showed a picture of herself and she had one more chin. I'm like, actually, that's like the girl who, or the girl, me. Okay. Me. I'm talking about, I'm thinly veiled. It's a thinly veiled reference to myself. Who's five pounds? It's like wearing a speedo on the beach. No. No, no. There's 80 more. Yeah. I know. I used to be plus size, but no, I'm size plus. So that whole argument to me was the funniest effing thing ever, because she was really being a bitch. Like, that's just not nice. Even if you're an author, you know, one of my favorite things to read on Reddit, this is so, have I told you this before, because this is really rank, but I'm not sure. Reddit has a couple of fat. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I think that they're all secretly fat people, because that's why I read it. It's like inspiration. Yeah. But one is called fat people stories, and one is called fat logic. And the fat logic one is based on this Tumblr blog that is called Health at Every Side. It's not called that. It's called thin privilege, or this is thin privilege, or something like that. And it's these really big girls who are talking about how skinny girls have it so easy and they don't understand how privileged they are. And they'll leave a Tumblr post like thin privilege is being able to sit down on the bus without people giving you dirty looks, because you're taking up two seats. They're like, thin privilege is being able to go into a wiener schnitzel without the counter person automatically assuming you're going to order 20 hot dogs, stuff like that. Like they're really like just adamant that everyone's against them all the time. And so I personally just love the storyline. I thought it was hilarious. But even though there's always posts that are like, I went to my doc, thin privilege just going to the doctor for a hurt knee and not having them lecture you about your weight. It's not my weight. It's my knee. It's like, yeah, because you're a weight. Dump, dumb. I love it. So I'm going to love this doctor. I haven't liked it. She's going to be so much fun to hate. Oh, she will be. I mean, she, she was really pretty obnoxious to the women because she had a party and she, she was pretty rude to Dr. Jackie and also, well, so here's the thing. I watched this last night at two in the morning and I started to like, doze off right at the good part, which was towards the end. But there was a big fight because then there was all, because then doctor, the other doctor got drawn into it. What I'm like, you know, her name, she has a, she has a hard time keeping his calm as Dr. Jackie. Yeah. Dr. Jackie can stay calm through anything, but this other one will just go off like she gets really, she at the, at the funeral, I almost said, at the reunion show, she was going off. They really got under her skin and they came gunning for her. They did come for her this time. Yeah. For no reason. Like, really, Toya, you think she's trying to sleep with her husband because she danced with him at the bowling alley? That was ridiculous. Yeah. Let's wrap it up about husband. I have came to this bowling alley many times while I was getting back to my mom's hearing and I was like, you're, you're, you're dancing too close to my husband. I haven't came here to have you dance close to him. I think, um, what's the main one's name? Mariah. Yeah. I think Mariah has been hanging out with Toya a little too much because she's her talking to us like, Oh, no, what sentence is that? She's like, these is the people I love today, they're like, what? Mariah, you know what I have to say, Mariah is so hood. She is, she is so, like, fresh out of Detroit, you know, I think she is from Detroit, right? And I think that like she like when it was like her whole family was, was sitting there at the table and you see her, her mom and her new weave and everything, but like, oh, I'm just, I was horrible. I was like, and then she, and then she tells her nephew, well, well, if you have a bully, you know what you got to do? You got to hit it and quit it. That's like, oh my God. Yeah. Fuck your bully. Then they'll stop. They'll stop messing you when you fuck them and then never call them again. What? Oh, and then she's like, she's telling her son, you being bullied, you hit that girl. She's like, is that girl, is that girl still beating on you? You hit her back. Like, wow. So, and then she said they hit it, he hit it or quit it or whatever. It's like, look, you taught your little boy to beat women, fuck them and never call them all in the same dinner. Like, at least spread these lessons out. I know, I, I, one thing that's interesting to me is that there's now a feud in between Quad and Mariah that apparently they just, they're not like besties anymore and it's not totally clear why there was like, apparently, I guess maybe Quad thinks that Mariah's jealous or Mariah is being crazy. Wow. The specifics on this fight, really, first of all, that designer that, okay, Quad starts off going to some little designer who is from Project Runway, right? Is that, is that where he was from? Yes. And he's, his place is called House of Chapel, right. But isn't there a House of Chappelle? I was like, please, poor, please sit down. Yeah. And he was a bitch on Project Runway too, of course. But he's like this little flaming twig with a big giant bobblehead, you know, rolling back and forth, starting trouble with these women. He was friends supposedly with Mariah, but then became friends with Quad and it started telling. And then Quad were friends from Tennessee State. Oh, that's right. Yes. And then I guess he started being friends with Mariah who maybe was talking shit or somehow whatever happened went down. He was the go between, which I was like typical, you know, like you're horrible on one reality show and just because that reality show ends doesn't mean those people just disappear unfortunately. They're still horrible and they have such a reach that they become horrible on other reality shows. They're not even on. Yeah. Well, I'm team Quad 100% because I love Quad. Mariah is a hideous human being. No, Mariah is truly a hateful human being. She's terrible. You know, to bring back one of our most popular old words, vile. She is a vile, disgusting pig of a human being. She is bad. Meanwhile, I could not stop laughing. There was a scene, an extended scene where Quad and her husband, like he really wants to have a baby and he's like, Oh, when did you come over here? I want you to come over here. Let's get a baby. Let's get a baby going. That's funny. The boys. She's like, Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Oh, come on. Let's have a baby. Hi, baby. Hey, baby. You make them toxic. She's no day. I love when you cook. Why don't you cook five babies? She's like, Oh, no. I don't like when this is on at the same time as real housewives of Atlanta because it slipped into my momma Joyce a little too much. Oh, no. One of my babies is going to get so mad at you. So mad. So let's see. What else happened? At first, I didn't know what you were saying. I was like, What? Who? Sandy D is the one who always. Yeah. Yeah, I got you. I got you. It took me a minute. Oh, no. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Well, when we're under the covers, you should hear the smell. You should smell what's coming out of those covers. It's funny. Question is, did Dr. Simone get divorced from her husband? Is that like, I don't know, but it looks like that's what's coming because of course you take care of a man and the second you have financial problems, his ass is out. Why do young bimbo's be the only ones to leave once the money's gone? That's true. Yes. True. That's true. I like that. I still like Dr. Simone quite a bit. And I do too. I love her. She's telling, you know, Dr. Jackie's like, you know, I'm thinking of having a baby. Okay. Listen, you're literally as old as quite a hospital is now, you are not having a baby. Those eggs smell, I smell them from here. There are better, there are better uses for donor eggs. Yeah. Like, I may throw them on the floor, do not have a baby, adopt a baby, adopt a teenager, adopt a 20-year-old, adopt a chia pet, someone in their 30s like me, who could use a doctor mother. Who will? You can be my homie number two. And who will fat shame us both? Yes. I need some good fat shaming. I can't rely on Reddit forever, lady. I need fat shaming without an internet connection. So let's see. So I think that's mainly the, that's the big stuff that happened on the episode. Well, this heavenly bitch is going to just be horrible. She's brought on by Mariah, because Mariah had no friends left and she's like the producer on the show. She started the show. So she brought on, she brought out the big guns. Now the fun part is going to be when heavenly eventually turns on Mariah, because that has to happen. No one can just be friends with Mariah because she's awful. Yeah. Mariah, I mean Mariah is terrible and I don't understand that her husband, this successful doctor puts up with it. Like, I don't understand at all. Well, some men just like to be beat. That's true. What can I say? That's true. Um, but you know, this is going to be a really good season because they had an entire party at a bowling alley that wasn't even part of the main storyline. I know. I know. They would open at the bowling alley party and that would be the big party. And there's so much good shit coming this season that that only made it like two little scenes and flashback. I know. I was actually shocked that we did not see this bowling party because like, I mean, clearly everything happened there and who who said some, one of the women said something about like, I'm all dressed up in the bowling alley. I don't know. I think it's Dr. Heavenly. It was like, you don't say that the bowling alley. I don't know. I was half asleep, but like not because I was bored was because I was watching it like two in the morning. I did think it was funny that Toya, Toya tried to have a big premier party and they just edited it out. Stupid Toya. Yeah. I had a big jedi guy that I've had the people. Yeah. She's now like trying to, she's trying to make herself look better about being like, I'm trying to go back and develop hearing. I'm going to try to get the volunteer. What was that word that she mispronounced last season? She mispronounced it so badly. Everyone. There was one though that she really messed up. Oh, I wish I could remember what it was. She is one of the dumbest people on TV and that's saying something. I can't. We went to Bravo. I can't believe I have came to this podcast and I can't remember the word she said wrong. I have came to. Yeah. That's my favorite personally. Okay. So let us move on to the housewives of Atlanta. Oh, yeah. Neenie, Neenie, Neenie, Neenie. I've given up millions of dollars because I just want to be in the project that's right for me. Bitch, please, you've given up millions of dollars, please give me a break. How's dancing with the stars going? You're $500 a week. You dumb home. Is she still on it? I don't know. I'm watching that show. I'm not watching a loose. Why do you think we've been having so many earthquakes over here? Like 60 earthquakes ever since that show started trying to figure it out. Meaning. Oh, my God, it's so true. It's so true. Let's see. So what happened on this episode? I'm trying to remember. After all the bravo we watch, not watching Dancing With The Stars is like the only thing keeping me feeling classy. It's so true. It's so true. Okay. So Neenie is an idiot. She met with her manager, who she calls midget, which is so good. So all she talks about is how short he is. And he's a door. A, he's beautiful. Really cute. Yeah. He's cute. Love me some short guys. Although he's not as cute as a candies therapist. Oh, my God, he, that guy is cute too. But I like little white guys and you like big black guys. So you see, we'll never compete. It's perfect. But yes, she's calling him a little midget and she said she's had him for like three years. Well, when did her career really start since she got midget? So how about you dial it back and have some respect and at least read the scripts that he sent you. I love that he sends her a script, John love its pilot and she's like, I didn't read that. Yeah. And he said, why? You didn't like the idea. I just don't think that's where my career should be headed. I know. We're getting Glenn Close over here. All of a sudden, like passing on scripts, like she's, you know, royalty, not that Glenn Close is royalty. But you know, it's just a little bit iritably Glenn Close is, you know, Glenn Close is a badass, please. Yeah. No, I love Glenn Close. I love Glenn Close. Nini is no Glenn Close. Yeah. Meaning. Yeah, that's the least we can say. Meany. It's no Glenn Close. Actually, oh, was this the episode where she made up with Peter and Cynthia was that last week? That was last week. Okay. Never mind that. You can talk about it. You won't hear the talk about it. No, no. I just, I really hate house. Nini has this whole thing of like, I can't be responsible for what? Well, Namay says, I'm like, yes, you can bitch because you're the same person comes out of your mouth. You got the same brain. So shut the fuck up with that. Namay. So that meany stuff was pretty minor. She's still unbearable. Like, I mean, that's just pretty much what we're going to get with me. But can't, like, Candy had a lot of stuff this week because Portia has been missing her rehearsals. She's like, see, I think it's a schedule. See, no, you got your people's right. See, even Rowley knows when to show up for rehearsal. See, nah, Rowley is responsible. I think it's an email. See, nah. You can't complain. I'm in Gmail for it because Rowley even Rowley knows how to use Gmail, even, even my mom knows how to use Gmail. But how are you, how are you opening? She, I can't, my candy impersonation, which is normally doesn't sound anything like candy is particularly off tonight, I'm really like it's really just really bad right now, maybe because I'm in like Westchester, New York and I'm just like, I can't, like it's just, it's like, it's just so white up here. My personal favorite thing this week was seeing the musical. I thought that was hysterical that it is exactly her life. And she is totally talking about her mom being horrible the whole time. She's like, mama, well, you don't have a problem with me paying for your house. I was like, oh, no, mama Joyce is not going to be sitting still for this one. Yeah, she was going to be taking her shoe and running up on stage. The only way that she's knocking her up on stage that they put ridiculous right in front of the stage to keep her away, let's get her off. I was selling a deal with work today and I started crying and mama, call me back. I want, I want to see that musical I have to say. I really do. I do too. It sounds kind of good. There was one part where the guy was singing something but the music was totally different and I don't know, I don't know what's going on with that musical but I just want to go see if we can hear mama Joyce from the back screaming, damn that you can. I've never gone to any one of those shows. What was it called? It's like the, is it called like the Chitlin circuit? Is that what, isn't that what like, isn't it called, do you know what I'm talking about? I do not know. I'm looking at that because that sounds like a horrible, great thing to say. Okay. The reason, no, didn't need to say that circuit, it's the first thing that came up when I put Chitlin in there. It's even before Chitlin recipe and Chitlin loaf. The Chitlin's, no, because, because Cheray, remember when Cheray was an actress, the whole thing was that she was doing these shows on the Chitlin circuit and, and Nini was like, I am a real actress. I'm not doing the Chitlin circuit. I'm not. Yeah. It says the Chitlin circuit is the collective name given to the string of performance venues throughout the Eastern, Southern, and upper Midwest areas of the United States that were safe and acceptable for African American musicians, comedians, and other entertainers to perform in during the age of Rachel segregation. And this is, and, but it's also like, like all like, before Tyler Perry became like Tyler Perry, he was doing these like musicals and these playlists. Oh, yes. I know. I remember those commercial living in New York. Yeah. They'd be like, come and it would be like the set would be one big piece of cardboard with a house painted on and it would be a cast of 50 people. And they would be singing the high heaven about how grandma, you know, grandma was mean. And I think that became big mama. Let me tell you something. As someone who went and saw Madea's Chris family Christmas in the theaters, I can tell you that's exactly how the movies are too. It's like cardboard. It's like, okay, let's, let's like paint the inside of a farmhouse on this like wall here. And let's put Kathy and a Jimmy and Larry, the cable guy over there. Let's put Madea over here. And let's have that lady from A Man Walkthrough and why don't you have Blair from Facts of Life. And if you, by the way, if any of you guys think I am exaggerating, I am not because those are all cast numbers of Madea's family Christmas. I saw the movie. I'm not, can you Lisa Welchle is in the movie? Okay. That's hilarious. Well, I was expecting this to be that and it sounds kind of good. I like it. I mean, I like it. I just. I thought it sounded good. I did do. I'm just like, oh my God, Candy, could you just, could you made me go a little further from home? Well, yeah. You hit my friend with your shoe, mama, you hit my friend with your shoe, you know what though? I, I thought the little clips of the music that we heard, I thought sounded actually pretty good. And if you think about the fact that they kind of just like, like just cobbled this whole thing together, you'd like, she was just like, I'm going to do a musical. And then there was like, there were no songs, there was no play, there's no, there's no dialogue. There was no anything. And she's like, yeah, it's going to be happening in like four weeks. And then all of a sudden, all these songs, it sounded like legit. I'm like impressed. Ain't nobody's business about a relationship, baby. Ain't nobody's business about a relationship. Don't you just want to see Eddie Lever just sweating his way across the stage. Yeah, I have not understood one thing Eddie Lever has said so far. He's like, yeah, Eddie Lever. He's like legend. See, right. I want Pearl from 227 to be a musical. Can't be why you throw me to your mom. Um, can be, is going to get her ass kicked when Mama Joyce uses musical. Okay. The other favorite thing about this episodes field me was that it was obviously shot after the show had started airing because for some reason, Real Housewives Atlanta is going for like 80 episodes. This is the longest Housewives season to date ever. Yeah. There's never been one. I mean, I think they just hit 21 episodes, which is they premiered the same week as Beverly Hills. Yeah. And you know, they're going to have like a five part reunion or some shit. Well, yeah, especially with that fight. And, uh, oh yeah, oh, yeah, people go into the hospital and stuff. So I don't even, and they haven't even said when the finale is, so now it's this week. Oh, thank you. Jesus. I was like seriously, my poor, the poor recapper from trash talk TV is going to hang, hang herself because she's doing married to medicine too. Please like, please make it stop. There was, there was another thing that happened this episode that was significant and it was sad. It was that. No way. Oh, the dog thing. Yeah. Poor little velvet was murdered. I know. By the neighbor's dog. I felt bad. I have to say, you know, at the week before there was that scene with velvet when, you know, uh, what's her face Kenya had was like, had that like doll and velvet was like running around and there was one shot where the women like looked at velvet from across the couch and it was so funny and cute. And I never thought velvet was cute before that I took a screen grab and I was like, you know what? I think I'm on board with velvet now. I think I want to start like talking about how much I like velvet now. I think like I'm going to like welcome velvet into my life and this episode will happen. It's like velvet's dead. Oh my God. That was so horrible. I actually felt really bad for Kenya. That was like, that was like, you know, that was real. That was, that was a legit thing. And yeah, when Zina, my little Zener died, I had to have her put down and I was holding her and feel that dog's life go, Oh my God, it was so depressing. I could not watch it. I did watch it and cried like an idiot. And you know what's really sad? I still kept eating while I was sobbing. It was really weird. Like food was coming out of my mouth, but I kept eating. Dr. Jobs is sitting there with her arms crossed. Yeah. But that was sad. Did you read all that media takeout craft that's been happening? About velvet? Yeah. So media takeout was just kind of horrible. They just make shit up anyway. And they write in caps a lot, which just makes them even crazier and stupider. But they came out with some articles saying that Brandon, Kenya's gay had posted a picture on Twitter with his dog and velvet like a few weeks ago or a couple weeks ago or something. And that they thought they were they were basically saying that she gave her dog to Brandon so that she would have a storyline. And then she said the dog died, but it's really. Kenya's not a good enough actress to do that. Yeah. And she wouldn't think of something so simple. I mean, if Kenya wanted a dead dog storyline, she'd be like, listen, get my publicist to hire a dog from Africa to pretend it's my dog. And then I'll fight with it for the whole season. And then we'll send it back to the Africa and I'll tell everybody about it. And we'll have a going away party for it and all the proceeds will go to Nini's charity. Even though they're not normally fundraisers when you do a going away party. Yeah, I don't I don't think that she would have made up the velvet thing. What she would have done is she would have had a story where she was pregnant and then had a miscarriage. That's because you. Oh my God. You know what? You've missed your calling, sir. You need to be a housewise press secretary. Yeah. I feel bad for velvet. That's like what a way to go. I felt like that was very real and you know what's funny is that that when Chika when Brandy's dog Chika was quote unquote, you know, like a robber let Chika out into the woods, AKA Brandy's assistant, I found like a I felt sort of bad, but I kind of was like laughing a little bit. I kind of just was like, because Brandy was just sobbing and then Joyce and all that. But with Kenya, I actually felt bad, like I really felt bad because I felt I felt I feel truly like Kenya has no one in her life except for that little dog. You sound like all the other women, they're like, this was really sad because Kenya doesn't have any. Well, because Kenya is like fucked up, she's more fucked with than Brandy is, you know. She has a mom who doesn't acknowledge her existence, doesn't acknowledge that she is alive on this planet. In the mom's defense, she has met Kenya, just kidding. The mom has have good taste. I have a story, I have a story from Chicago about Kenya. Okay. Mom, did you see velvet on the street? I saw velvet in Chicago, she was being served in a bun at Portolos. No, no, what happened was I caught up with my friend who used to work at a talent agency in Hollywood. And Kenya was one of their clients. And she said, they had Kenya for a few years and they had the hardest time booking gigs for her. Like, they could not get her. And any time that she had an audition, she'd be like, oh, well, I'm out of town, so I can't really do it. And so eventually the agency had to drop her. But she said, though, that Kenya was really nice. Well, yeah, you guys, Kenya doesn't need an agent. She has her own film company. She is a film producer and an actress. She knows how I bring. She should do a co-production with Joyce. So it could be like the star of Siberia and the producer of like Voodoo Island come together at last. Voodoo Island. Wasn't that the name of her movie? I forget. It's unusual that I could swear that Walter was in, but nobody will back me up. Yeah. Because he wasn't. He was. It was Walter. All right. Let's see. Did Fager do anything this episode? No. Right? No. Fager just had that scene where she was making pottery with Apollo. Oh, yeah. And he's like, yeah, baby. This is going to be like our relationship. This is going to be this is going to be a temple of our relationship. And then it falls apart and for a big glop and I was like, oh, I thought it was going to be like one of those like ball and chains for the jail cell and it was a big pounded butthole. Well, the other thing that happened was that there was therapy. So this hot, hunky therapist comes to Candy's house and does family therapy first with candy then with Mama Joyce. And I guess they're going to try to, I guess there's going to be an attempt to fix everything with Todd? I don't know. Oh, it was so lame. It doesn't even, she, Mama Joyce, okay. This whole thing is obviously filmed after she, the season started airing because Mama Joyce is trying to play nice because the whole country turned against her. Yeah. Because you know how the internet goes? Yeah. And poor thing is like, well, I guess I should go somewhere and not hit someone with a shoe, at least one episode. And she is barely containing her rage in this. Like you can just see she is still so pissed and so miserable. She doesn't have one smile or one nice thing to say to anybody. And I love her version of making up with Todd is, it's not that I stop lacking you Todd. It's the I stop respecting you. And he's like, uh, much better. All better now. Good. Let's hug. I know. I know. I love to also that like the big, like when the therapist is asking her like, so what are the real problems? She's like, well, she's not, she's not paying attention to what she's eating anymore. I'm like, oh, oh, that's, you're right. Never mind. Drop Todd. Oh, my God, yeah, she's pretty, she's still pretty horrible, but you know what, God bless her a little heart. And I love that she dropped in there, but my son died like 10 times. Okay. You know that she's seen these episodes because she's dropping that all over the place to get the sympathy vote. Like that is probably the saddest thing that could ever happen to somebody, but you're kind of using it to get off the hook a lot. Stop. Yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah, momma Joyce's dog that killed velvet. What about? What about dog? What about how stupid candy and Cynthia reacted that was, I'm sorry, but that made me laugh because poor Kenya, like she's one of those people who's so crazy. She doesn't even have real friends. Even when she's filming, no one hangs out with her. She still has to steal friends to hang out with and gaze to hang out with. And she called those two girls and before she showed up, they're like, Oh Lord, why can't we call it less? Oh no. Something dramatic. I don't know. I like their reaction. I thought it was weird that she summoned them to a restaurant, like why not just call them on the phone like a normal person, but you know, I have to say, so one of my really good friends who also listens to this podcast, he's probably listening right now, he has a little dog and he's very attached to this little dog. He loves this dog. The dog just went through surgery this week. And I know that if something bad were to happen, that dog, he would be like so devastated that like, I, if he were to break the news to me, I think I would probably react the same way as candy or Cynthia because I know how much the dog means to him. So I give them a pass. I yeah, that's the worst thing ever. I can't even make fun of it because it happened to me recently and it was the worst thing ever. I don't think I've ever been anything been through anything like that. And I've lost family members and that's a really horrible thing to say, especially publicly because of course, like I was horrified then too, but I don't know. There's something about an animal, you know, and you know, like, oh, they're just an animal, but yeah, they love you and they're they're there with you for everything, you know, this is really getting depressing. I know. I was just Jesus. What a way to end this. I was just about to share a story about my childhood cat Elijah. Oh God. Oh God. And it's named Elijah too. Isn't Elijah what the youth don't they always leave their door open for Elijah? Well, that was the whole joke is on pet, but whenever we had a pass over say, we would open the door and then the cat would walk in. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh is so funny. What a good cat. And tell it to turn into the most depressing name ever. It's like, no, I was just past, you know, like, it was the door open for a while. Maybe he'll come back. Elijah. Well, actually, it was funny. Elijah was actually a girl cat, but named incorrectly, but, um, it's actually, that's actually not bad. I had a roommate who renamed her, her name was Shannon, but she renamed herself Elijah. Um, and that, that was my other roommates, Jewish mom was like, you know, that that's the one we leave the door open for me. What a weird name. It would name themselves that. This is a yum. Uh, this is what do you call a shiksa? Shiksa. Yeah. This is a shiksa would an idiot. Sounds like you're bringing back your Adrian Maloof impersonation. I think it actually came from Mrs. Kramer, Poppy's mom. It all makes sense. Kathy Cramer. Um, when Elijah died, I was a freshman in college and, you know, I had Elijah from like first grade through high school, like basically all my formative years and I remember it was like freshman year of college, it was the spring and my mom called to say they had to put down the cat. And I was like, okay, oh, that's too bad. I like hung up the phone and I went to the bathroom. I found a stall and I cried because I didn't want to cry in the dorm room because my roommate was there. Oh my God. Is that sad? What a fun podcast. I know. That was so fun. Bye. Bye. And Bueller sitting on my lap now, I feel bad talking about Zena, but sometimes I've heard of which Zena's ghost would come back and play with Bueller when I'm gone. But then I remember that she'd just bit other dogs anyway. That's so, that's such a sad, sweet thought, Roddy. I really, you know, cause I kind of maybe sometimes believe in weird things and I was like really hope, I even told her the night before she had to be put down. I was like, please come back to me. Please, please be ghost. And I was even considering, I mean, this was before she was truly sick, but like just for fun, but like before she got sick, I was like, if Zena ever gets sick, I'm going to stuff her, you know, like normally they like put her on little wheels and then I could just like play with her still, you know, like drag her around the house on a leash. Yeah. And that was always a joke. But then when she passed away, they were like, are you going to have a funeral? And for a minute, I was like, stuff her, but I don't think they'd do that at the bad. Unfortunately, lame bet, like that would be $180 to put your dog down, but we won't stuff it. Yeah, terrible service. I totally helped them, you guys. Well, you know what, Zena was a very proud dog who would need to be carried onto the bed. I'm short. Yeah. Zena was a good girl. God bless. I feel like we have everyone crying who's listening right now. Well, boredom, they're like, why are we listening to this? Jesus. What are you going to talk about? You want to talk about when my grandma died? That was so sad. She was so nice. My solid coming. You saw the truck. All right, well, I thank West and West now. Okay. Let's go cry and I can go to sleep. It's like two in the morning here. So anyway, everyone, please like us on Facebook. If you have not liked us on Facebook, go to facebook.com/watchworkcrapins. You can join in on the conversation. We didn't mention anyone by name this week, which is weird, but normally we mention people on the podcast. We love hearing what you have to say, tons of links, tons of activity. It's a super fun Facebook page. 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