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#111: Reading, Tea Serving, Bitch Slapping

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Ronnie Karam (TrashTalkTV) and Ben Mandelker (bsideblog) join forces yet again to learn important lessons from Bravo. This week we tackle old lady stripper parties on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, cheating loser men on Real Housewives of Atlanta, the coming up of the intelligent women on Blood, Sweat and Heels, and idiot servers beating the crap out of each other on Vanderpump Rules. We also touch on Top Chef this week, if only as an excuse to diss the rebel Voltaggio moron. Enjoy!
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I did read that the producers want to revamp the cast. Allah, New York, because the show has gotten away from sort of like over-the-top lifestyles and parties with famous people. And I also read one of the articles saying that Carlton is sure to be fired because viewers do not like her. Ratings are down this season and Carlton is for sure going to be the first to go. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff already swirling about what's going to go on. Carlton is supposed to be getting fired and Joyce isn't. People seem to enjoy the Joyce and Brandy fighting. I guess because that's all that's happening, they're fighting. So she knows how to keep her job. Well, the show also needs a token black person, so that's Joyce. Yeah, happy Martin Luther King Bay Joyce. So yeah, there's been a lot going on about all this casting. But you know, it started going downhill with Brandy. Sorry, I was kind of up for her getting in there. If you're going to bring one white trash hoe, you can only have one white trash hoe because she's telling everybody else off. But then you bring in Carlton, and I don't know, all these phones. And Carlton's friends, and we'll get into it. But like Carlton just brings a whole bunch of like British white trash into the mix here. Well, a lot of what Bravo says whenever they do these big casting changes and little Jill Zarin, who still can shut up even though I haven't heard anything from her, she can still shut up. But one thing she told us was that they base a lot of their casting decisions just about what they read on Twitter and on the Internet. And so today, just for fun, I was a little bit bored waiting for the show to start. So I went onto Bravo TV to read the blogs. Do you ever do this, read the blogs? Very, very rarely. I think I read Lisa's blog last week, but I rarely do because it's like -- Well, last week someone posted a link to it, and I went and I read all the -- There were like hundreds of comments, anti-Kim, which I think is hilarious. And so now I'm addicted because I'd love to read what everybody's telling these housewives. And Bravo has stopped apparently moderating because it used to be if you didn't say something nice, they would just delete you, you know, not from personal experience. But I looked this week, and so I want to go over a couple of the comments that people are leaving on these Bravo blogs, which are hilarious. So this one is Stupid Joyce. Oh, no, no. This is Carlton. And the title of her blog is Poe Dancing. Isn't just sashaying around, okay? Because it's, you know, it's another week of Carlton trying to prove that she has a work in vagina. Yeah. So someone sells her Carlton. Please stop trying to shock us. Epic fail. Another one. We all get it. You and Brandy doesn't like Joyce because Internet commenters are really good with grammar. Yeah. So that one goes on for three paragraphs. I didn't bother reading your blog because I could care less what you have to say. You are nothing more than Honey Boo Boo with a bit more money and a lot more tan. All right. What was going on with your friend's baby talk? It was so weird and creepy. Does anyone seriously think that Carlton is a lesbian or even bisexual? It's just all role playing for shock value. So this is really fun because they're basically hating on her. And I had no idea that people were hating on her. So people hate her. Hate her. So then you move over to Joyce and people are telling her stop flipping your fucking hair. Who's this stupid shooting a gun? Who dresses like that to a gun range which are great? And then Kim's. I fast forward through most of Kim. Have you sent Lisa a thank you note yet for the generous gift she sent your daughter? Dear Kim, please do not drink a gallon of espresso before you write a blog. OMG, I'm so in love with Guy and Brandi and Brandi's mother. And that guy with the little girl who sat at their table. The meatloaf they served in the dishes. Wow, we good and gun drops. Yeah, and I love you a lot even though I hate her. But I love her totally like yay. Does anyone have more and more and more coffee for me to drink? Yeah, wow, we put a five. So thank you Bravo commenters. Thank you. And you know, speaking of Kim, there's also rumors that Kim is going to get the heave hoe after the season, which is interesting because if Kim gets fired, Kyle is threatening to quit. And I think that'll be okay. Yeah, she needs to just go with her fake, chewy ass. Get out of here, fake Judaism. And also she's threatening to quit supposedly if Lisa, I think we talked about this last time. If Lisa doesn't get fired, which is not going to happen. Bye Kyle. Enjoy your forever not 21 anymore store. I think that was the major gossip. I mean, why don't we just start talking about Beverly Hill since we're already talking about it pretty much in depth. You know, to get back to Carlton and her friend who speaks in the baby talk, which drives me nuts, I don't think it's ever cool for women over the age of five to talk in baby talk. Well, there's two of them now because they've got that assistant, Elizabeth, or whatever her name is, Elizabeth. Yeah. And now they've got this other extropper who talks like that. And it's like, you know that she has kids probably like this is you are setting an example for your children right now and you're talking baby talk to be like sort of flirty with a woman who you're acting like you have like. It's been thing with, but you know, you're probably too prudish to do anything about it except talk baby talk to her. Those leathery hags auditioning 15 year old strippers was. Well, so that's okay. So that's here. This is my first point. So Carlton has announced this to us that she's having a pool party, which we'll see next week. And as part of the pool party. So she said poll party, didn't she whole party. For winding up in her fake accent is so confusing. I can't tell what the hell she. I think I think that both will be present. I think there will be pools and polls and polls Polish people. Lots of holes. And Coles as in KOHL. Posh B.S. A lot of a lot of cheap clothing. Hey, I got that $5 bathing suit at Coles. Hey, here's Lauren Conrad. So anyway, at this polls, pools, polls, and polls party. So she decides that she wants to have women dancing all over the place because, you know, she says this first of all is if it's a novelty. Guess what Carlton? You go to any party. You go to any bar. You go to like any 7/11 in Los Angeles. There's a half naked girl riding around. Okay, it's not that shocking. It's not that crazy. You're not that novel for coming up with this idea. But anyway, she says that she wants to have women dancing around because she says the female body is like a work of art. You know, she's just going to do this whole thing. Women are just so beautiful. I'm like, okay, that's fine. I get that. Women have beautiful bodies, et cetera. But then why are you auditioning the most ratchet hose in all of Los Angeles? No kidding. Not all women's bodies are created equally and you're definitely not auditioning the right ones. Those girls are straight from a parking lot of auditioning elephant or experiment right now. Terrible, terrible girls. And also, you know what, Carlton, you look like an antique briefcase that's been left in the rain for a week. Okay, like I did not want to see you with your panel of like American horror idol judges. Like, actually sitting there judging 15 year olds. It's disgusting and it's so not empowering to women. It's like, you're basically setting up a big market for old ugly men, friends of your husband, to come like buy young women to like take around town. Okay, honey? It's like, this is not Mohammed's house. Yeah, I mean, it really would have been one thing if she was auditioning. She wore auditioning some sort of like pin up type girls or just like pretty girls, just, you know, just basic girls. You know what, I would have more respect for her if she just said, you know, every housewife has a business. And mine is amateur internet porn. And today I'm, you know, I'm going to interview runaway is from Oklahoma and I'm going to have them suck a big old mantelina. You know, okay, at least you have a job that I could respect for this now. No, I mean, she's just, she's a ridiculous woman and she's very stupid and she's very annoying. And like you said, she looks like she's been left out on the ranch. She's a great, honestly, she's in many ways. She's kind of like a great poster child for why we should have more Scotch guard on these women's faces. I know kidding. And also reading, you know, it's like, I know that the reading rainbow didn't stay on the air, but maybe instead PBS could just show clips of this more on over and over. So parents can remind themselves, we need to let our children read. And if they can't read and if they're really pretty and they insist on being a little hose in school, while they go to sleep at night, play books on tape, just do something. Try and educate your children in America. By the way, I love the preview for next week where Kyle sees Carlton's ridiculous neck tattoo. And Kyle says, is that the Jewish star, which is, and then Carlton gets really pissed off. And I like it. All the Jewish star, the Jewish star is Barbara Streisand, okay. But also, also it exposes how dumb they both are because Kyle just spent, you know, a whole segment type of how she converted to Judaism and she's doing she bought dinner and she bought Shalom and she's doing the candles and all that. And then she doesn't understand the difference between the Jewish star and any other star is hilarious to me. But then also, I've never heard a call to Jewish star. I've heard the star of David, but I've never heard anybody like, that's the Jewish star. Well, then it just adds another layer of stupidity. And then you have Carlton getting all mad as if Kyle had just said Kyle Hitler or something like that. You know, I mean, they're two very stupid women interacting. Yeah. Extremely stupid. Extremely stupid. Extremely stupid. Extremely stupid. The picture I'm staring at that's on my computer while we talk about this is poor Camille Grammar. Because we were just talking about her. And is Camille Grammar with her eyes have crossed one eye is more closed than the other one and her face can't move. Oh God, please bring her back. I know they should bring her back. And I say bring back Taylor too. She was a big mess, but I sort of liked her in her messiness. And she's a messiness might actually get brought back. I have not heard that, but from everything I've heard, she is just amazing on couples therapy. Yeah. To be able to follow Taylor and her relationship with the lawyer with her lawyer that she got while she was being sued by from people that she stole millions of dollars with with her husband. Yeah. He killed himself. Like, I can't even put it all in a sentence. It's too much. And I need it in my life. It's too late. But, you know, we should be happy enough that we're getting Camille. You know, Camille is a gem under, under her, under herself, you know. I said that we're going to be celebrating somebody else's. Yeah, we're here. Same day that we're here with our friends. But it's so upsetting. I know. Never gets old. Never gets old. Never ever ever gets old. Well, they can bring on whoever the hell they want to. It was not going to be okay until they get rid of Carlton. Brandy. Kyle. I think you're not. What does Yolanda do? Nothing. Joyce. They're going to keep Yolanda because she's rich. The thing is that Brandy, they're not going to get rid of it because Brandy is the only one who actually really gets into fights with people anymore. You know, because she's still. Yeah, she gets into the vice. But now it's just. It was funny because she was a victim and she was attacked first. She fought back like white trash, but she was still attacked first. Yeah. She's just being an idiot because she's wasted all the time. That's not fun to watch. Yeah. So in this episode, she goes up to Sacramento with Yolanda for a book reading of her book and she's going to see her parents. And she's had a falling out with her dad because he thinks her Oscar dress was slutty. But also she's like, she explains to us that her dad is upset because in her book, she described him as a drug dealer. But technically he's just a weed like rower. And I'm like, you know, that is actually a big difference. And I think, you know, she says like, I don't understand why dad's mad about that. Like, I would be mad about that too. Like, if you're not a drug dealer, if you've just grown weed, I mean, yeah, it's in the world of. It's worse. He's a fucking distributor. That's worse. Like, he's a mega dealer. Like, he's not one of the, like, he's not a Walmart. He's all the factories that use child labor to put the ship in Walmart that keeps it cheap. Like, he's the worst. Yeah. But when you call someone a drug dealer, it implies that they still use beepers. It implies that you wear like maybe blazers with t-shirts. And that's like very offensive. I would not want people thinking that of me. Well, would you want them thinking you're a drug distributor or a drug kingpin? Then don't make drugs. Well, here's the thing. People who grow weed, I feel like, don't always have great logic. And I think that they sort of, there's like a weed culture thing where it's like, it's, it's, it's like, it's, uh, it's inoffensive. It's fine. It's pot. It doesn't hurt anyone really. I agree. I'm legally allowed to buy marijuana in the state of California because of all of my medical issues, which include being entirely too handsome and being too rude to hold a real job. Yes. And I'm legally, I love weed dealers. I love her father. I'm not saying he's a bad person. I'm just saying, don't act all offended that you're being called a drug dealer when you're a fucking drug distributor. That's what you are. But at the same time, Brandi, don't be so surprised if you call your dad a drug dealer when he's not. Oh, yeah. She's an idiot. Yeah. Yeah. When he's not like, you know, Tony, what's his face? Tony Montana. Yeah. And she acts like such a victim in every single circumstance. It's like, oh, my dad's mad at me because of my hospital address. No, he's mad because you called him a drug dealer on national TV. So there's one lie. Okay. Yeah. So then she's the victim because, oh, this was my favorite thing. They go to boxing class and she pulls a dick move and punches the, uh, punches the instructor so hard that she hurts her hand. And then it, she's the victim because her hand hurts. Yeah. Because you fucking push someone in the face too hard and you're the victim. Like she can make any, she could shoot someone and she'd be like, oh, I, I burnt my hand. I burnt my hand. The gunpowder burnt me. It's like, you shot somebody. You know what? She's also taking a lot of liberties with this whole like missing dog situation. Like it's very sad that Chico was, has gone missing and probably has been eaten by a coyote. But at this point, it's like, you can't start like blaming everything in your life on that. Like, you know, when you drink too much, it's because Chico went missing or when you call someone in assholes because Chico went missing. It's like, I'm sorry. It just, it doesn't work that way. It's not the same. You may have, you may have loved this little dog and everything. Whatever. That made kill Chico because she was sick of cleaning shit up off the floor. Like, body train your dogs and your maids won't kill them and then like feed them to coyotes. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, and I'm also getting a little sick of her whole like, when it's very convenient for her, she does this whole like, well, I don't have a man to defend me or I'm all alone. But you know, like, that's actually such a kind of like anti-feminist thing stands to take that like, you know, if she doesn't have a man to help defend her, then she's like useless or you can't beat up on her. Like, like, you can't at one and one hand be like, I'm this tough bitch. I'm gonna write, I'm gonna write a book about how like, I got on my feet again, da, da, da, da. And then on the other hand be like, oh, well, don't, you can't say that. You have a husband. You notice I have something to defend you. Are you following what I'm saying here? Yes. I think I'm a little lost here. No, no, I'm liking, no, I'm liking it. I'm just listening to you rant. Yeah. I just really, I just really agree with you. She's relying on you. She's some pretty girl who like, maybe could have been a model at one point, but ended up with some fucking hot ass soap star, who is still fucking hot. I don't care what anyone says. Married some guy, most likely for his looks, who was probably fucking around on her the whole time and was fine living off of his money until she wasn't anymore and caught him in the act. It's not like you married some good person, okay? You married fucking Eddie Cyprion. It's not like everybody hasn't known for years that that guy has been fucking everybody he sees. Give me a break. Yeah. I feel bad for getting cheated on and blah, blah, blah, but stop. Like go find another handsome person. It's been like, it's for their money. It's been like four years. You know, so that's why like whenever like Brandy gets into an argument and then everyone says, well, you know, she's going through a tough time. Like I don't think that's hurt. I think her time of toughness has passed. I think, okay, maybe she's having a falling out with her dad. That can be tough. I get that. But the dog thing, Eddie Cyprion, I don't know. I don't buy it. Yeah. It's like Kirstie Ellie blaming being fat on Shelly Long, sending her like hate letters after replacing her on tears. Well, that would drive me deep. That would drive me deep. If I start getting hate letters from Shelly Long, I'd be like, oh shit. I am getting some ice cream because I'm going to read these all night long. Yeah, but like 30 years later. I mean, come on, Kirstie, Ellie, get over it. That was like 500 pounds ago. Let it go. All right. You guys got divorced a long time ago. Stop. But I love that it's like, before it's like this horrible thing. Like my husband left us and the children and my dog ran away. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. My little dog. I'll just sneak. I just have no pity for her because she's such a fucking victim. If she wasn't, I would have pity for her. If she wasn't such a victim, I'd be like, you know, they shouldn't, they shouldn't be so mean to her. I mean, she's trying to make it on her own as a single woman. She got cheated on her dog died. But when she keeps bringing it up every time she acts like an asshole. And notice that every time she brings it up, she's like, I really want to do this girl. Yeah. I mean, honestly, like a few weeks ago, she's like, you know, Joyce, we have some mutual friends. And they do not speak highly of you. And Joyce is like, well, that was rude. Well, I'm going through a hard time. My dog left. Like, no, shut up, Brandy. You did not have to just offer up that information right then. Yeah. Yeah. Hitler's dog. Hitler's dog ran away. Sorry, Jews, but get over it. Well, you've had a lot of Jewish comments tonight, Ronnie. Well, Hitler is like the worst. Everyone, don't worry. I'm Jewish. At least they're pro Jew. They're pro Jew comments. They are pro Jew. They're anti Hitler and anti Kyle's fake Judaism can break. But by the way, so speaking of so back to Brandy, though, so, so with them to say Sacramento, and she gave Yolanda a tour of scenic Sacramento, which is kind of funny how often this series has gone up to Sacramento. They've gone to Sacramento quite a few times. But I really liked how like, you know, Brandy was saying, oh, this is like this was like gang land territory, whatever. And Yolanda was being like, well, in Holland, we don't have gangs. Like everything she was like, oh, well, in Holland, we don't have crosswalks. Oh, we don't have bicycles. Oh, that's a lot. Like everything like the entire Sacramento experience was like not in Holland. We don't have hotels in Holland. We just have large cottages. We don't have state capitals in Holland. Guns and schools. We don't even have schools. We have bonds and stakes. We have giant clogs and we put desks inside of them. My favorite Yolanda moment was when she was like, well, yeah, one time I was breastfeeding. I was breastfeeding Gigi in the room and some man came in with a gun and he saw me and then he ran. And I took Gigi and had a talk to my mom and I chased that man down. And if I had found him, I would have turned him into mashed potato. It's like, you're so fucking white that all you can turn a criminal into is something even more white. I know, but that brings me to a good point, by the way. She tells that story and it's actually like a very terrifying story. And then Joyce also told a really scary story that her guys with like shotguns and like like masks came up her driveway and we're gonna rob her So we hear two very like terrifying stories about home invasions and for both stories the Bravo producers played music that was like I was like what is going on here like normally no if someone says like oh shit like I left my I left my nail polish at home The music's like boom But then this then they're talking about like real-life danger like yeah, there were two guys with masks and they had shotguns And I would have been like raped and murdered had my dog not like luckily like gone crazy on them I think when it's Joyce I just tune out because I heard her say like well You know I one time I look Peter No one time I looked out and I saw these men with masks and they were coming up the driveway and my dog was freaking out And I was like what like there were probably like trick-or-treaters or missionaries Like and then my dog ran away after that. So I really understand Brandi's experience. Just trying to empathize I just want to give her a hug right now. Just want to give you a hug. Okay, I said that apology She's so stupid. I can't take I can't I can't listen to Joyce and then she's telling the guy at the gun range Oh, I've tried to come before in a movie and he starts laughing like bitch Please you've been in a movie and then she doesn't even know how to hold the gun without the chamber of falling open I Did not do this on the movie shut up Joyce. I know I'd like to see her and Kenya more get together for a film. Oh My god. Yeah, great. I love it. Oh god. We'll get to Atlanta later But it's like two fake actresses like you guys know that there's the internet. We can look the shit up, right? Two great black actresses Making great advances for black cinema The help could have been so much better Okay, so what else happened on this? I love that we only really saw Kim I guess we saw her in that gym scene or whatever, but there was only one time they showed Kim and she was like Yeah, they you know they went to self-defense class and then Brandy accused Lisa of mothering her again, and you know I think they're trying to set the set the stage for whatever epic look they have later this season So yeah, that's pretty sad because they're they're all grasping it That last scene was just so sad to watch because it's brandy grasping at some reason to be mad at Lisa and then it's Kyle grasping it so it's like Lisa didn't even do anything like look I get that Lisa can be up like a hottie bitch. Okay, I'm not saying that she can't but these two like pick something real to be mad Yeah, I think that Kyle's like oh Lisa's the only person with the job and she's the only person's this busy Yeah, Kyle What the fuck do you do except like pick things out online and let I lean to or whoever the hell is your partner run that story? You don't do anything for that store. Shut up Kyle. Yeah, well the thing is this I mean Kyle and Brandy are both very immature. I mean I could not even imagine These women like talking with like my mom, you know like they it's just like they're on the different plane Like I could imagine my mom and Lisa having conversation going dinner or something like that You know, but I can't imagine my mom ever being like social with someone like Kyle or Brandy because they're just like immature They're at there. They act like a grown grown like older teenage girls, you know I want to go to the Facebook really quick Viviana just such a hilarious comment Yolanda's icy glare and bear breast halted a home invasion I'm telling you if I were a robber and I came across Yolanda with her with her Ariane's Ariane glare I too would run I would run very fast cuz you know that she has like like probably like 30 like doxin not doxin She might have 30 doxins too. They come and attack you Yeah, that was that was pretty fucking frightening man. The Yolanda can be one scary hooker Yeah, so okay, so what else happened on bedhills are we done with that? That's done. We're done. Why don't we move on to the other scary hookers which are down the street in West Hollywood on Vanderpump rule I just watched that and posted an article at trash talk. It's really not an article It's just a picture of what we see at the very end which is Stacey smacking the crap out of course face number one. Yeah, that was that that moment in the previews is so It made me so happy like my soul lifted it lifted up through the ceiling and to heaven to see someone actually Smack horse face and in a way that doesn't sound bad, you know, like obviously a guy can't smack her But for Stacey's smacker, that's great. Yeah, that was pretty amazing. That was the best thing ever and I'm watching it right now I just I just went on the site and now it's just playing over and over again So speaking of horse face the the show opened up. I think with her crying She's crying in her apartment He's gonna miss you like seriously seriously. I'm going to the upper mountain in Michigan She is really an awful awful we're talking about Kristen by the way If you never listened to the podcast before when we say horse face one horse face - those references to Kristen and Katie Because we're very mature and we speak it. We call women horse face one in horse face - well, they started it by calling themselves hot They did start it. They did so anyway, so Kristen went off to Michigan to have some alone time and to get her emotions in order, which of course is hilarious to think that she could ever do that and And while she was gone, Tom and Jack's had a really good fight Jack's basically got his knickers all in a twist and Accused Jack's of ruining his life. Did I say Jack's got his knickers? Tom's got his knickers in his twist Yeah, Tom cut his knickers in a twist. So what do you think about that because it turns out that of course, you know The you know, Stassi's a bitch, but she is right about a lot of things But when she's like of course their friends are both lying cheating assholes I mean her name is her name is Stassi is literally named after the German secret police. She knows all the secrets. Yeah and She was right again. She was right again, but it's not like they had sex for anything They ran out drunkenly in a hotel of the Gold Coast. I mean they made and in the pool at the Gold Coast I sound like candidate. I don't know what's wrong with me Yes, but yeah, basically what happened was what Tom finally revealed was that he and Ariana made out at the Golden Nugget in In Las Vegas line of the night golden luggage. You've sunk to a new level. Yeah I love that that was what was the more offensive to Stassi. I can't believe Golden Nugget and he's like what I love that place. Yeah, then they get like a whole side discussion about because he knows so Here's my theory. My theory is that you know, it was such a stupid thing You know Tom Ariana as a kiss a few years ago My theory is that the producers probably gotten to Tom's ear I was like, you know, you probably shouldn't tell Probably shouldn't tell Kristin about it because she'll get really upset So you should probably keep it to yourself and I bet because he's very stupid He probably felt it was manipulated into not sharing it until of course it became a much bigger deal than it was And that's what that's why I think he didn't tell her initially I think that he probably just figured she would fucking lose it and freak out and then you know I have all these girls what slashing us tires and going after him. Those girls are nuts Yeah girls are crazy Well, I love that they're so like, you know, they're gonna keep their man in line But so far we know that two out of three of their boyfriends have cheated on them multiple times Yeah, like great job like did you ever think that maybe being such a ratchet bitch has something to do with that? Yeah, exactly and meanwhile just to speak just as further evidence that these women are crazy bitches Horseface number one before she even gets to the airport at white while she's on her break. She gets to the airport She tweets Tom's hands of all is the best boyfriend alive and we are both crack heads. This bitch is crazy But I love those that when that came out so stops was telling this to the other mean girls and then they were like They roll their eyes and they start then they start talking about how life is so much better when Kristen's not around when she's off in Michigan Do you realize it's like it's like a every week they announce? Like who it like who's the best one to not be there like every week? They're like, oh, I mean No, it's not like we always have so much fun when Jax isn't here Have you noticed that like when she knows not around we have so much fun like this way should always be so this week It was like have you noticed that like we have so much more fun when Kristen's not here. Yeah Jax is the worst and I hate that You know Bravo has gotten me so used to seeing women backstab each other and like treat really good friendships Like there's nothing and just throw them in the garbage for no reason for a little airtime like Yeah, I'm kind of used to it You know at least the women on Bravo and real life I still would get disappointed in a woman friend But on Bravo, I expect it but the men I mean come on try stop trying to make it so even like You put a ho before a bro. Who does that? Who does that? All he did was make out with the girl Why would you do that and then he makes it so much worse than it was and oh and Tom was absolutely right Tom was absolutely right when he said that Jax comes up with grandiose stories Or I think the word he used was something like grandited stories Like that but he got a grandiose stories just so we have something to talk about with saucy so you can win back Sausage Tom grandiose is like a mix between grand and gross He actually thought it was something like grandma. Yeah, he does tell like oh yeah This is my grandiose margarita. It has like a shot at grandiose in it. It's really it's great essence of cucumber But but the point is that everyone's really stupid on the show and they're all bitches You know to me a great example of the girls being bitches, especially that Katrina girl She does she's not like a main as your name Katrina or Carina or Catalina Yeah, she she's not like an official cast member, but at one point so she ain't gotten gauge it was a long stupid boring moment and afterwards she knows telling it to talking about it to a horse face number two and horse face number three and And so they're asked about the ring and sauce is like well I was actually really nice is the ring was like princess cut and Katrina like rolled her eyes as if like oh Like what trash like are you like fucking serious like it's an engagement ring like let this poor girl have a moment like And sassy's like you to me to get the sticks out of your asses, which I mean again team sassy for one episode at least That shit was hilarious. Yeah, what is that girl bitching about you and never getting anything? I know the only thing that's I'm telling you one thing. I think the term princess cut would be more apt for that girl If there was an end involved hey Hey Yeah, that girl's horrible is bad enough dealing with the ones that we have to without bringing in extra hoes Yeah, no, I wanted to ask you an LA question, please I've noticed it on this show. They're always swimming at like hotels and stuff Can you just walk into a hotel and start swimming like they go to that one on the sunset strip that not this episode? But they've been to that one on the sunset strip where it overlooks the city I don't yeah the unda's or the you know some of them I think some of them some of them you can like for instance the standard you can just go and swim there Others like I believe the London. I think you have to be a guest to go up there But I think if you come with a with a crew, it's okay. I think the Roosevelt you can swim in yeah Just as long as you're buying drinks and stuff or you have a TV crew with you Oh, yeah, that probably helps. So as long as we go to the standard Go to standard. I love going to stand I love about that because I had a friend who's like oh we should go to the public pool It's so fun. I was like gross. Who does that? Let's go click to the strip. Yeah, you know I wouldn't go in anyway, I'm so afraid I get laughed out of there I'm telling you for anyone who's out of towners who want to come to LA and have an experience I highly recommend going to the standard and getting yourself a mojito sit back and watch the craziness unfold Yeah, it's not it's not super crazy, but you definitely see some weird things around that pool. Yeah, Europeans and such. Yeah, it's fun It's true Europeans go in there with like weird bathing suits and they're smoking cigarettes They somehow like keep their cigarette like a light underwater. I don't know what it is like like Europeans their cigarettes do not go out Yeah, that's what you that's basically what you see. Yeah, Europeans are keeping American smoking I think Americans would have quit if Europeans weren't just sitting by pools blowing smoke in our faces because it keeps us addicted I'll tell you one thing. I was just on Olympic and Pico walking around About like two hours ago. She's like a highly Israeli neighborhood and you want to talk about cigarettes smoking on the street Oh my god, it was that's one smokey block around there from between Dohini and Robertson. Oh, really? Oh, yeah That's like some hardcore Tel Aviv cigarette smoking going on there I'm gonna walk down there every once in a while. I'll just start inhaling Well, it's it's not the prettiest of walks either. I'd like to add I was speed walking behind I was doing my like exercise walk yesterday and some guy was in front of me Smoking and I was gonna cross the street because you know, I was trying to exercise and I was like, yeah No, I'm gonna smell this and so like I got real close to him and just kind of walked really close to him awkwardly right behind him So anyway, sorry about that detour so the Vanderpump rules so Kristen comes back She comes back from Michigan, which I guess she was gone for like a second. She was gone for like it. Hey guys I'm back from Michigan Seriously, and she's like she's like I feel like really censored. I feel like it was really good for me I feel like centered and like I feel like I'm in a good place. No, and he's like, you know, like she Whenever by the way, okay, I'm gonna say something sexist and I'm gonna stand behind it Whenever girls say I feel like I'm really in a good place now. It means they're in the worst place at all That's as you should know, that's code for I'm in such a bad place that the only way I can deal with it Is if I start telling people I'm in a good place. That's the only way I can do it I guess he goes for guys too, but I feel like girls do it more Yeah, and you don't want to ever say you're in a good place because that gives somebody the opportunity to be like well What place you in your waitress in a restaurant where your boyfriend is admitted to cheating on you and has been working with the girl That you hate and he cheated on you with for like five days. Yeah, it's it's never a good sign It's never a good sign when you have to retreat to Detroit to get into a good place. Yeah, they're not they're not doing well there She's just like I'm gonna I'm gonna pass car. I'm gonna pass dilapidated broken down car I went to Flint, Michigan and really got centered. Yeah, I saw I saw the old GM plan and I saw I saw some women eating rabbits She's like I drove around listening to Motown remembering how it's dead now to feel better about myself Could you imagine if she even listens in Motown? She'll be like I don't get it. I don't get it Why are these people singing about this doesn't sound current like seriously seriously like I've ever listened to Shina Speaking of Shina, it's so hard to like her sometimes even though She's like the nicest thing in the world But I love that Stacey just to get her to the surprise location, which is just fucking Lisa's house I mean did Lisa move so she could just have cameras installed everywhere and they don't even have to have camera crews there but it's Lisa's house of course and Just like okay, Shina. There's a photo shoot. She doesn't know what it's for She just shows up there because they tell her there's a camera there and then it's just fucking Pandora Stand there. Don't look at me. Don't look at me. 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No, I didn't see it a little Easter egg for all you people out there so the other thing that happened was or continuation of what happened so so Kristen comes back after being centered from the poverty of Northern Michigan or wherever she was and She's all centered and then till she has a meltdown in sir and starts yelling at Ariana starts calling her a cunt and all these nasty things and Tom selling it a shut up and it really bothered me again This is again another example of Bravo setting the women's movement back a hundred years because it was a prime example of When a woman hating on another woman when it's the man. Who's that fault? Yes? Yes, like and even Thomas and yell at me yell at me and Chris is like, but she's the con she's the con like though You actually evolved people here I mean, here's the deal are they crack heads? Because that would make more sense like, you know, you stay together with like I sat this friend who was just horrible He was so mean but we used to love going through our bees together and getting like 20 like 50 cent, you know they would have like specials like We just like binged together and we get like three pizzas and bins like I hated him But I could never do that in front of another human being and haven't to this very day and I wonder you do it with me I couldn't do that with you. Are you kidding? Yeah, you could no you work out No, well, I'm saying you could do it and you wouldn't know this guy was like 200 pounds heavier than me like Oh, yeah, it's like a true addict. You're not an addict. You'd be like, oh my god I have three pieces of pizza. Oh, it's so much like I couldn't do that with you I mean like a real addictive fun binge let me tell you something come with me to all you can eat Korean barbecue and you see a whole other side of Ben No, I would be like I would be like horse-faced Oh, that's right. You're vegan again. No, just vegetarian. Oh veg, but that's I had to I had to amend that Good goal. So anyway Yes, she's terrible and she doesn't seem to know she's terrible. She seems kind of off the rails. She stays Well also, but but I also think it's funny is so so she's coming at Ariana and Ariana really does not give a shit She's like, okay. Well, whatever like it was a kiss. It was nothing I didn't want to like sell out Tom just for this etc. etc. etc. She's very like sanguine about the sanguine about it She's just cool collected and what I liked is that afterwards all the girls rushed to Ariana's side They're like oh my god Kristen. She's like out of control. She doesn't she's like she's crazy And then saucy it's like sauce was almost like bending over backwards to get Ariana off the hook She's like well, you know Tom did say to you that you know, he's breaking up with her So you had no idea So in your book like like you thought it was a perfectly innocent thing and I get that and that's why I'm not mad at you I'm like listen if it were like the other way around if this were like she know or something like that or someone that saucy hated It'd be like well, Tom said he was breaking up with with Kristen But you didn't know that for a fact and you still went through with it You know like she went out of her way to exonerate Ariana in this situation and it's just hilarious to me the way these mean girls operate The way they shift alliances to make someone feel so shitty about themselves and yet at the same time I'm not gonna be on Kristen's side cuz Kristen's awful, too Kristen is awful. I hope that Tom like I hope that he sleeps with so many people over the She is the worst. Yeah, Stassi is only doing that because she's getting revenge for other things She's getting revenge for combo and horseface number two will get hers, too Don't think that she's gonna get away like both of them are like yeah I was like I don't it's so true to Stassi and they're both gonna get it, you know Yeah horseface number two she still has something coming to her She did cry during saucy's party and that was a no-no Oh, yeah, she's gonna get it and everybody knows it Well next week will be great because Stassi punches horseface number one. So I Think we all are looking forward to that. Yes for sure a lot of a moment and speaking of brawls It looks like next week on the real housewives of Atlanta. We're gonna have quite a brawl. Oh my god Okay, this week we learned on the real housewives of Atlanta that every single man on this show is either cheating Has cheated or is with you because you're money basically. Yeah Every single one of them. No surprise there Yeah, and that goes so well. Let's see where to begin. I guess so what the the one of the stories what was a lot about Todd because there's this girl is her name Natalie Natasha Well first let's start with the beginning because we opened this week with Cynthia which that's always a bad sign Yeah, I was not expecting much from this episode because they didn't it wasn't even like sometimes They'll be like Cynthia, you know She's posing and then it'll be a hey babe What do you want to do today and then it'll cut to Nini's house and then yeah, it'll be neat It'll go Nini and then we follow Nini and then it's interesting It stayed it just stayed at Cynthia's house And I was like oh no, we're in trouble now and they went to bar one and I guarantee you because that's Peter's bar I guarantee you everyone in that bar I guarantee they're paying them that they they came in from like Craigslist There's no way that people actually go that bar. I don't know people as Nini would call them. Yeah Twitter people Yeah, probably just put something on Twitter like Cynthia's gonna be at bar one tonight and like a bunch of weird poor people came But yeah, so they had it at bar one and Peter's lie. How does Peter talk? I've been done an impression He's sure sounds like I can't do they're sure sounds muffled. I can't I my peer impersonation is not good. Yeah people Yeah, welcome to the restaurant. Yeah, here's our friend Here's how we know these these friends and so they it's obviously this weird fake relationship that they have and by the way And let me interrupt here that have you noticed that this season on Atlanta? It's been like a revolving door of like friends of cast members who were like trying to get on the show It's like they're just all auditioning their friends this year. Yeah, I was like Monique was Monique got to go to Savannah and now we have now we have these girl Natalie and Charles Charles Williams former R&B singer Yes, so that was the best part Peter's like you go to come across the street man See my place and Cynthia's like Peter thinking of course Peter's gonna whip out a lease and try and talk this poor guy into like Getting a new music studio, you know for music that he no longer records, right? So Cynthia's mortified so they do go over to this studio and there's a little table set up and you know like a little bravo I don't even think we saw a waiter. It was probably like a bag of McDonald's under the table And by the way, can I say that bravo if there's something that bravo loves to do on this show They like to take a tiny little table and put it in a vast space and say happy anniversary Yeah, like how like how many times do we have to see a tiny little table for an anniversary in a huge warehouse or soundstage the most unromantic thing I think I have with Kim Zolciak it's happened. Yeah with Tamara everyone So he's like I got a surprise for you, babe. So, you know, she can smell the McDonald's under the table So she's not impressed already So this R&B singer comes at me and he's like now. This is a song that That encapsulate everything that Peter feels I was broke when I met you I didn't have a dollar to my name And then I saw you and you gave me some money and a little fame and now I got a car I didn't pay for and I got a building I didn't pay for and I've got a restaurant. I can eat for free. I thought I don't pay for And she's like that was so romantic Peter five words five words five words That whole song is about how he was broke until he met Cindy. Yeah, I mean I like how you know earlier They were talking about their does Natalie Charles's wife Knew Todd from way back because Todd had cheated on Natalie's friend And she basically was implying that he was an opportunist But basically said he always knows how to find himself in a better situation And I like to know you know Peter was acting as if that's like a crazy thing like Peter What do you think you are right now in this situation like you kidding what were you doing before this before you were spending all of Cynthia's Money on crappy endeavors. Yes, and that's my favorite thing too because that woman she was What was her name Natalie? I think Natalie. Okay, so she was saying basically that he was an opportunist But she never said that she said look all I know is that he broke up with her and he ended up with someone better He always knows how to find him a better place in life And then Cynthia's like so he's an opportunist well now I'm just saying that he gets a better place in life. It's like so he's an opportunist So then she runs and says opportunists like you were the one who said opportunists not her even though she was tech You know she was saying that right exactly Meanwhile though Todd I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know where I stand on Todd I mean, I think he seems like a more or less a good guy I'm glad he's helping I can't do with her play because to me by the way I started to like I sort of have this like visceral like feeling of dread as she went looked at that theater It was like a big real theater that's ten thousand dollars a day and they don't even have a script yet And they're trying to book the theater. I like to me. Yeah, but she even said she's like if we're gonna be a Tyler Perry You know like if your goal is to be a Tyler Perry in the theatrical department, I mean You've seen commercials for his place before he got famous I mean, they were like a curtain with a house painted on it and then a big folding table and like 50 people surrounding it yelling like It's not like a hot. It's not a lofty goal. That's not saying. That's true. All right. That's true. She can write the songs So as far as Todd, I I'm sorry, but I don't trust any man. Oh, I don't trust any person who won't sign a pre-op I think that's bullshit if you're gonna date a rich person or marry a rich famous person You need you're gonna sign a pre-op or you're in it for something else period I don't believe that for one second. He would be with her if she was some poor girl with Orphan Annie Fantasia hair He would never do it. Yeah, I You know, I think mama Joyce is crazy, but I'm I'm starting to the tide is turning for me a little bit on Todd Yeah, if he's not gonna sign a prenup to know I don't trust him and you know He should just say it like listen you want to sign a prenup five I want to prenup to though because what if I end up making a lot of money in my job You're not gonna come take my money and if I do help you with your endeavors, then I want serious pay And I'm not doing it for free like if it's gonna be business and it's gonna be business That would be fine, but for him to just not be not sign a prenup is bullshit. I don't yeah, I agree Meanwhile, so I feel like I'm saying this like every week But I went on to our our podcast from last week and someone left a comment about the candy burst impersonation that I am That I'm fond of doing and she was like this candy burns impersonation is still racist and I'm like listen But here's the here's the thing so as everyone knows when the the fun of the candy burst impersonation for me It's like candy has such a strange voice. It's very deep and they can get nasley and then it can get high pitch all at once That's the most impossible voice to do and so whenever I do it It's just this crazy car wreck of a thing and it's not like me being race No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm getting to a point with this Obviously, it's not me trying to be racist and I've explained this many times before and I stand behind my stupid impersonation But what was hilarious is that on the show nini impersonated candy and you know what knees impersonations have like my impersonation so I have a lot to hear no more about it because Nini was like don't talk about my man My mama, don't talk like that's what I do As hysterical. Nini's impression was hysterical. Yes, so for those of you who've never heard my candy personation It goes something like this. See we're gonna start a play and rally is gonna be all involved and see the way I see it is that like I always get it done. So rally. She's like rally. We have a plane and I see it doesn't make any sense It's the hardest voice of all time. It doesn't sound like candy. It doesn't sound like anything It just sounds like a it sounds like an old tape that is warped and going fast and slow all at once sanny d is her name candy impression is still racist She's not an a first of all learn to spell And learn to like capitalize things when you're typing and second of all if we're so racist Why are you listening like the third week in a row sanny d go away and shut up like Stop with the racism like there are real races out there go out there and find them and do something meaningful with your life Get the fuck out of here lady Yeah, there there are definitely ways to listen if there's there are ways to do racist impersonations and Mine is just bad impersonating. That's all there's a big difference Like there's real racism out there like go fight the real fight. Okay. Get the fuck out of here You're making me fucking crazy at this point Normally, I don't even like commenting on that and all I would have to say to you is just stop apologizing Who gives a fuck? Anybody listening to this you just need to turn it the fuck off if you're offended Okay, I am an offensive person But even more offensive is the shit that we have to sit here and watch to do this show every week You know, we've sit through like six hours of trike After week to watch this and you know what? I hate every fucking race I understand what God did when he fucking made Noah build that boat and just take animals and then kill all the races Okay, races are terrible white people are probably the worst out of all of us Y'all just need to shut the fuck up with this racism bullshit The only reason why I brought up is only because Nini did the impersonation and she basically growled the way I growled so I felt like She needed to do it. I was dying But they I love how they all have such a finger on candy too. Like don't mess with my mama See how can't mess with my mama Rada don't mess with my mama. Don't mess with my man. Don't mess with you Rada The funny one too in candy circle is this Don Juan queen that is like He's like the business manager But I love that he's always like seething and furious like yeah, I know always about to just go off start Doesn't look like a cartoon like he should be in like lunutunes Like he should be doing that thing where like he gets like like you know Like he gets like very like skinny and puts his hands as like You know, he should be doing that like stomping his foot and like The candy is like Bugs Bunny or something like that like jump on a carrot like see he's like I don't know We don't know what we're doing. We don't even have places to do this. What are we doing? She's like, no, don't come on now I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I can't even imitate her I'm trying to make a noise. I can't you're going into like fat Albert Mammy territory So yeah fat Albert cuz that's my invitation of you doing it Don't mess with my mama. No, we're gonna Don't mess with my boo Oh gosh Don't want No, I was just gonna say he has like a little cartoon character smoke on me have his ears at all time Yes, like furious queen. He's just like got so much anger built up from whatever Charles and drama He went through so he's just like seething at all times. I love it. Yeah So the big plot point this week other than Peter being actually being grateful for the free ride he got in life Yeah Was that someone decided to go to a vineyard whose trip is this I think this was a may have been a may have made Yeah, so they say a group trip and it's like so many people I mean even Marlow was there like everyone under the sun was there and actually what sort of this hilarious That like at certain points. It sounded sort of like a luxury car dealership. They're like, okay. Well, this is Portia This is Lexus. I was waiting for like a come out There's literally like literally that Portia and Lexus were introduced one right after the other It's Portia. This is Lexus This is Escalade so candy Portia and What's her bun? Phaedra we're in one car and the rest of them were in the other car and just listening to them talk shit about The other car was so fucking funny, right? She's coming she's still fat. It's like oh my god. You guys stop it and the poor fat girl was sitting there like just nodding like Yeah, exactly. And then meanwhile. Oh, the other thing is that So they're talking about um Natalie who's gonna who meets them there ultimately, but in the bus ride in Cynthia's bus This is where Cynthia spills the tea about um what Natalie had implied about Todd, etc, etc And then somehow comes up about Natalie and Charles and Kenya starts talking about how she like Oh, Natalie is a common law wife not like because they were talking about how they got married Like everyone was saying, oh, well, we got married here and we got married there and candy was they were talking about where candy's gonna get married, right? Yeah, something something like that, but then so That's new girl was like, oh, well, we got married to Vegas We just went straight to Vegas and and Kenya's like I heard she's like I heard you were a common law wife And it's just like why would you ever say that to someone and why does it matter? Like that's and that's what all the women were saying It was one of those moments where the the entire cast except for Kenya actually Was like had a head on their shoulders and was like who's business who cares who cares? But the best is that Kenya says this whole thing like oh, I heard you were a common law wife And then about about 30 seconds later. He was like, well, I mean, I just want to stay out of it I want to stay out of it like that you brought it up. You brought it up. Well, think I mean read between the lines Why would this guy be telling Kenya that his his wife is just his girlfriend? I mean, obviously he's either fucking Kenya or trying to fuck Kenya So I don't know what she wasn't saying there, but she's probably like everybody is fucked Everybody else's boyfriend this year. So I won't be surprised if that's what it is And you should have she can issue taking up that opportunity because now she's trying to get pregnant. You know, she should Sew on her oats back then. Oh my god. That's like trying to rehydrate a raisin I mean it can soak up some water, but it's just never going to taste the same Squeeze it and just like disgusting water is going to come out You can reconstitute a raisin just fine and some rum it tastes lovely Well, that's that's actually probably a really good way to put it in this situation. Yeah So yeah, that whole fake baby thing is hilarious. So well So that gaping hole is just about as likely to produce a happy home is charades You know what baby is going to come out of there? It's gonna be whatever creatures in the previews for next week's real house. That's a Beverly Hills I don't know if anyone saw that that doesn't even make sense, but someone's walking around. It's like a little garlem That's that's gonna come out of Kenya because Kim goes to get to some autograph show Are you doing it's like when sallyfield goes across to parameters or whatever. Yeah in soaked it Um, so we're getting lost so anyway, so they're talking all this shit about each other Can you sports a war with this girl that she doesn't even know suggesting that her husband was banging all these people into her and lying about being married to her And so the natal is like well shut the fuck up shut the fuck up shut the fuck up And so then Kenya of course is happy to then say well I don't know you're also the one who said that Todd is an opportunist and in that pissed off candy And then candy is defending herself and the process of defending herself She decides to take down peter of all people. It was just like this this wonderful like downward spiral of like Clying women. I was very happy with it. Yeah, this show they are probably The most ruthless on this show, but they do it in the most fun way and they always end up just laughing their asses off Which is hilarious. Yeah, because at least because on Vanderpump rules, they're also like they're terrible to each other in the same way But then they're stupid about it like or like really stupid and they're so vile about it That you're just like these are just the the drags of humanity, but with alanta like in the end It's like candy just standing up waving her hand around being like i'm fine. I'm fine Like i'm the best So yeah, where she's like well my house, you know, if Todd was climbing this whole time then he climbed at the top And he's not gonna get any higher than me. So cheers to time You go that was the best answer ever and I love that like candy is being forced It seems like Recently, but she's really being forced in the past season or two to show her real personality because she's very good at keeping it You know Keeping a lid on it, you know, yeah, she's very calm She's very even-handed if she doesn't like somebody she's very quiet But she's had to read a couple times this year and I've loved every second of it. I love her. Yeah, I I I agree So I think basically Natalie the new girl she stepped into the wolves den and she got her head been off more or less Yes, and you know what she deserved it. They she had good will after getting attacked by Kenya Yes, you know, she like had brandy's entire three seasons in one episode Like she was a victim and instead of letting that flower blossom into like a full-time job She fucked it up by going after somebody else for no reason Although to be fair she did not say that Todd was an opportunist and the words were put in her mouth But by then it was too late. Oh, but she did she did say that Todd Todd was always dating people to get Something better in life. Like she did suggest it Well, what I love is that what happens on every episode these days is that someone gosses about something that happened 20 years ago And then when they get confronted about it later in the episode they said well, it's no big deal It was just 20 years ago. It's like well, but what wasn't a big deal. Why did you bring it up? Yeah, they need something to do Good for good for Cynthia to have something to say for once. I know other than fibroids Yeah, I'm not I'm not fucking your husband now. I was like what about some beads what about it? So you know it would be really great at this winery beads That'd be great. Oh, we should have some beads here. You know, I'm gonna do let me stay at this winery for two months I'm so beets people can open up their wine bottles one coming out. It's gonna be beats Show me Why we move on to blood, sweat, and heels? Okay blood, sweat, and heels Loving the show is so good Love that they have intelligent people on a show. Oh, even though they're acting like idiots a lot of the time Yeah, even but you know, it's like they're not really being that idiotic. I mean, so Geneva and Dimitri had like a coffee where they made up and it was like a very mature conversation And they they stated their points very clearly and they like listened to each other and they were empathetic And they used a proper grammar. I mean, I was like what what what network is this? This is not bravo They should this or bravo. They'd be making both women and black people look terrible right now This is insane. I don't understand how this is happening Yeah, everyone's actually looking really good on this show until they go to a party and What's her buns? What is that drunks name? Mika mica mica. Yes. She is she is I've decided she is um Molly Shannon's character Helen mad and the licensed geologist from saturday night live The one who goes on to pretty living and kicks her foot up in the air goes, I love it. I love it She even does kind of look like her. She does. I mean that woman there's one part that there's this party because um Geneva starting a new position at uptown magazine and so the magazine was throwing her a party was like a work event networking, etc, etc and um mica and melissa ford proceeded to get wasted and at one point like janeva Dimitri uh Uh brie They're all like sort of sitting on a couch and then mica just sort of like flows over And just like drapes herself off over the back of the counter and starts kicking her legs up in the air I was like, oh my god, it's molly shannon. This is molly shannon right here. I could not stop laughing She's pretty funny and um usually when it comes to sloppy drunks, I get super defensive, but i'm really enjoying her Yeah, I liked when she was like airing out her vagina too Oh my god This so I mean this show is so good that again I'm enthralled and I really don't even have anybody to complain about and isn't it a shame if I don't have something mean to say I just can't say anything like I've nothing to say really the only the only one I don't really love is Daisy I think she's kind of boring and she's a gal. She's the worst. She's sort of she lacks substance. She's sort of annoying She's she's just she's like a big nothing I'm still I'm still on the side of the super hawkeye that she that she went on the date with even though he was a total ass I like that he how he went on this episode when he told amitra about it He was like she has no class even though he was the one who was the bigger asshole, but I was like, yes Yes, exactly. Yes, that was pretty great. Yeah, that amitra is fantastic. I can't wait to see what she gets into this year Yeah, no, she's like she's she should not be on Trifling reality TV show. She should be having a much better career than than this That woman has no fucks to give and I love when she's smart She's smart, but let's say I mean Look, she's a relationship expert. That's stupid. Yeah, she's she's like we're in media because she has a blog I mean do you walk around saying you're in media? Of course not. I mean come on It's like if you handed me a card that was like Ben Mandelker in media like shut up, Ben. You have a blog We are not in media. We are not Rupert Murdoch. Well, you know, but she has written some books You can say you're in media if you're written books. I'm sorry. You can do that Whatever I put my face on a t-shirt went so right. I'm in media. Yeah, I'm on the internet and on a t-shirt Well, she um, I don't know demitra. I'm a big fan of hers a big fan. I like I like where her head's at She's a little abrasive, you know, she's a little blunt, but you know what she she can admit it You know, she she did and I agree and in fact I liked it when she said something about like She made some joke about not admitting her flaws because it'd make people more annoyed or something like that You know, I thought that was cool. Like that was like I really need to work through my You know, yes when she said that with my ego or whatever Yeah, when I think Brie was talking to her and being like maybe she'd be the bigger person and instead of like if she were down on Atlanta She'd be like no, she better come to me, but but She's like not an idiot like the clowns in Atlanta. And so she's like I know what you're saying is right, but I have to work through my ego I was like whoa, what are you like oddly like mature and self-aware comment to make for a real star? Well, my whole point bringing up her media bullshit is because normally I would hate someone like that Normally I would hate somebody who's like I'm a relationship Expert and I'm in the media because I have a blog Normally I would hate them, but she's just such a real girl But I really like her Yeah, I'm only one that really makes me crazy at this point is Gayle king And the girl Brie I actually really like her. I thought I would like her too her because and he was like Let's pray before dinner like shut up. Yeah, but I really like her Yeah, in the first episode. She was the one who said that women can't lead because they're too emotional and then she had the prayer thing But then the second episode she explained her position a little bit more clearly and she's actually she seems like Very very together and smart and intelligent. I don't know what's going on with this show. I'm like, I'm having the shakes It's so strange smart black women on tv What's what's wrong with tv? Jesus. Yeah smart women true It's like ruining their their their their brand So I don't have much to say about that, but I would love to talk a little bit about top chef this week Have you been watching top chef? Yes, I I'm telling you every week. I love top chef And I know you hate it, but I love no I don't I mean I have for most of the season because it's been so boring but ever since they like started drumming up all this crazy drama that's like Really compared to every other bravo show. It's not drama at all But ever since they got a little drama. Now. I love it now. I'm totally down I love that fake drama where they're trying to get everybody to hate the mexican guy who's like the nicest fucking guy in the world Well, he's done some asshole things though. Well, I think Nicholas is an asshole too though I actually Horrible Winey little human being. I hate people like that. He's like I never get to see my family Really then go to fucking college and get a job where you get home at 5 p.m Like yeah, thank you chef and you're working till 2 in the morning and that's why you don't see your family It's not like you're being held prisoner by the man. Yeah, shut up with that You don't see your family. You think your kid's gonna blame apple bees in the future No, he's gonna blame you so take some responsibility and stop whining with your rosacea ass. You drunk So over him and he's taking every little thing and he gets to go around saying Oh, I'm gonna mark these ovens and like marks them with a fucking marker. Who does that you can't do that? He's an asshole. I I don't think he's gonna win. I think if this is up to uh Shirley and uh, you know, you know, you know, And those well tom hates him. I mean, I think all the judges pretty much hate him now Yeah, I mean he was lucky he should have been gone It's actually been two weeks in a row that he should have been gone Yeah, he's only here this week because this season was boring and they and he's been bringing drama Yeah, I don't even remember what did brian do he made a chicken breast? That's why he went home to that He made a chicken breast, but what did this guy do? He was he did something. Okay. He has uh his quinoa Gubburn so his shed no texture, but i'm on top of that Well, he liked it like a study in carat. He had like carat six ways in one plate So didn't he have sushi this week? Wasn't it him who served like raw tuna? Maybe the maybe a drink or something. Oh, well no royte roy they had to do po boys and royte roy went and like yelled at all of them Right royte roy's kind of a dick though, right? He is he's so arrogant my congratulations You've served food out of a food truck like only on top chef would everybody be like oh my god He invented food trucks. You know what who invented food trucks fucking Mexicans downtown in every city ever. Okay. They invented this a new truck I was i'm picking him credit He he he kicked off the gourmet food truck revolution for sure or he popularized it because I know it did exist before him But um he definitely has this like whole like yo, I'm super cool royte roy. But that's kind of indicative of a lot of chefs these days They just think that they're Just like they do think that they're like arrow smith or something like that or like the rolling stones Like like it's it's super cool. You can go against cool You're innovative and like, you know, I haven't really had much of boy shows food. What I've had it's been delicious But like stop honestly acting like you have girls throwing panties at you. Okay At the end of the day you're fucking mrs. Patmore. You work downstairs in the kitchen I wear all over yourself all day to feed the rich people. Okay So how do I use them? Oh, I'm doing our jibonkers. Sorry Um Yeah, I I agree he I I got the sense that he was being cruel to be for cruel to say even though he said he wasn't I kind of abuse being a dick because he's been on this show before has any and someone was like that because the total dick Well, you don't mean an abusive. It's like go back to your fucking restaurant on wheels. Okay, get out of here The thing is that's what his persona is all about He um gone to a fight with I think it's Russ Parsons from the la times because he has this uh royte royte We just released a book a few months ago called la son, which is like it's a biography Uh with recipes scattered throughout and apparently the biography goes from his tough days living in orange county All the way through to when he like joined a gang and all this and that and it ends like right before the koji truck comes around And that's the truck that did all this amazing stuff And so uh the la times I think wrote a review something along the lines of like, you know, the book is good and everything But it ends just when it should be getting started And sometimes it feels like the book really is only to serve It's a reinforced the thug image that royte royte likes to have And then royte royte wrote like a nasi tweet like totally missed it bro. Like what the fuck? I'm like just shut up already dude. You're like 45 stop shopping. He kept zooks like I can't take you seriously Also, I told you last week about my friend at the village idiot right who went after the vultaggio boy No, did I not tell that story last week? I don't think so I was it. I think I did Well, sorry your audience if i've already told this i'm turning into my mother But um, I was at the village idiot for a birthday party last week and my friend who just moved here Trisha trisha My name is Trisha. Yeah trisha. So she's one of my weirdo friends love her been friends with her forever And she's a total weirdo and she gets drunk and embarrassing and I just love it So we were at this friend's birthday party at the village idiot trisha it's wasted because she's nervous and doesn't know that many people And she's like, you know pulling a full mica kicking her leg up in the air Walking up to people and being like, are you on tv? Like just being trisha, you know So we're outside talking to a smoker friend and vultaggio comes out The the punk one the really cool man. Yeah, so he comes out and he's with a friend and trisha sees him And turns around and goes And like jucks him like gets on him starts rubbing him like hugging him like holding his arms Wasted cross-eyed and going, oh my god. You're my favorite fella non top chef. It's bellotaggio He looks mortified like he just wants to run away and his friend goes Oh, you love him so much. You don't even know his name his name is bell is vultaggio not bellotaggio She goes who cares you were on top chef She's right. That's my favorite show ever who cares what your name is So He's like peeling her off of him like she's like a crazy homeless woman who like sees a nickel Okay, so he's like peeling her off and the friend is like trying to get her off So he was parked right in front of the restaurant and he's in this fucking ferari, which is hilarious to me because it's like You know, congratulations on your restaurant, but you do not have a ferari shut up shut up with your rental You're like I was just waiting to see the fucking I'm trying to think of a like the hurts thing on the back. Yeah, anyway He gets into his ferari and he just sits there in front of the restaurant while i'm dying laughing, you know trisha's like What with that embarrassing should I be embarrassed? He sits in his ferari and he's going On this little tiny side street, you know on melrose. I was so sad I was like you sad sad cross-eyed little man like get over your soul So you're lucky someone fucking recognize you and didn't ask you to bring them an appetizer get over it You a blue collar get over it mrs patmore. That's how i'm thinking of it now That's I mean that's hilarious The thing is that like all these chefs are such reality whores they pop up They are on top chef they're on top chef masters. They're on chop They're on this the food network that with the food network eat drink love anywhere. There's a camera They're gonna pop up. I mean roy choy especially and like that's fine That's what you have to do to keep your brand up and have people come into your restaurant But then don't be surprised if someone walks up to you and was like, oh my god. Ah, you know, it's like You're gonna have to fucking deal with it. Okay. You're trisha There's like a million trisha's at least trisha's funny. Yeah, it could have been a lot worse. It could have been it could have been me Yeah, you could that that shit could have been instagrammed all over the world I think there is a picture of me with marsell from top chef If you I think if you do a search for like Ben manel curve marsell google image search it pops up. Oh, I had a marsell run in last week I think I told you this one. I was driving with my friend and her gigantic brand new jeep My lesbian friend who has to drive like car the size of the bus because that's the lesbian thing to do And he passed in his little jeep like his little used jeep and he was giving us a dirty look and I was like Why is that guy giving us a dirty look? Uh, so I talked to him at a laundromat once Well, I mean jesus since she gets it's not us. It's the jeep. I was like, oh my god. You're so right He's totally body checking our jeep. Oh snap these little men on top chef get over yourselves It's like patsy says to the girl It's like a dean assess to the girl on afad you're working a shop girl. You can drop the attitude Well, you know, I think they have like I think some of them i'm maybe a pop psychologist here and make some generalizations based on very little concrete information and i'm going to say that I think a lot of these people actually have some anger issues uh, because if you look at whenever they do their biographical things they're always like Yeah, I wasn't much of a student. I hated going to school. I was like doing drugs Uh, I wasn't like I was failing everything and then like I found food and saved my life And I've been and I never went to college. I went right in the kitchen. Duh, duh, duh, duh So I think usually when you have people who are like Dropping out of school turning to drugs or whatever there's usually a little bit of a storm brewing inside of them And I don't think that, you know, it doesn't just food doesn't actually make a go away I think maybe gets chattelled into the food So that's probably why they have these attitudes I think these uh cooking shows have become so popular because Anyone who's worked in a restaurant. No, I mean I've worked in restaurants in my whole life And chefs are just angry fucking people everyone knows it like it's so rare to meet a chef That's not angry and it doesn't have issues and you're there 12 to 14 hours a day Working your ass off and it is an art, you know, and it is a skill and I get it I mean, I definitely respect chefs, but tv chefs are a whole different thing Like you were not in the kitchen for 24 hours a day working your ass off for five dollars an hour, you know In a thinkless job that no one ever even sees your fucking face Okay, you're not you're like pouring yourself on tv while you're paying someone five dollars an hour to cook your shitty food for you Bellotaggio so shut up That being said, uh ink sack is a really tasty salmon shop and that's michael voltaggio It is I was gonna go there, but the only vegetarian thing they had was like some tofu sandwich with mayonnaise on it I was like that sounds delicious. Thanks. No. Well, how about you just stop being vegetarian? I don't know because now it's now it's gross and everything it doesn't taste the same once you get used to not eating it It's not it's not a moral thing. You know that I have no morals. I'm rolling my eyes So okay, I threw a diet and then then I ate chicken and it tasted like cardboard then I ate barbecue and it tasted like blood It's just gross. I don't like it now All right. Well speaking of gross things. Let me just touch on the shaw's of sunset really quickly because you are not watching it anymore, correct? Yeah, you know, it's like I said to chicken You're disgusting and I'm not eating you so many innocent people have died to give you a chance to let me eat you And it's not worth it. You're gross Well, okay, so Um, I am still watching it. I'm really enjoying it this gg and mj war continues to to wage on And let's see this week. They went to the race They went down to del mar to the races And was hilarious because they all gone to a limo outside my building So for anyone who wants to see what my building looks like Just go to that scene of shaw's of sunset and watch them all pile into their limo and mine is the gray building And um, I don't know there was just like there was a there was a big drunken fight between mj and gg And I think I seem to remember um It basically wound uh, it came down to gg just babbling on and mj saying over and over against something like Walk away. Go nessa walk away. Walk away. Walk away. Walk away. Walk away. Walk away Go nessa walk away walk away Go nessa walk away go nessa june gg walk away Walk like literally for like five minutes. I'm just like am I really is this how i'm spending my time And i'm like, yes, this is and i'm so happy that i'm doing it It was good. Um mike and reza have um, they they've squashed their beef. Oh, that's so What was their beef because I saw that on the commercials and i was like, oh there it goes there goes Mustache be trying another friend for no reason. Yeah, their beef was that um when reza Went off on the on the gay guy in the club in east hollywood, you know, the Um, and mike stood up for the guy because the guy wasn't doing anything wrong Then reza was mad at mike and then mike was mad at reza for being mad at him And then mike was also mad at reza because mike has Lompa doing well with the business and he's hurting financially and that is like a whole bunch of stupid shit So it's on the commercial reza was saying mike has betrayed me. He stabbed me in the back Well, he says that because because of like the the gay guy he's like mike is like like he's not your friend like he's a stranger. I am your friend I am your friend. I can't believe somebody didn't stand behind me when I was calling them faggot in open on national tv That's crazy That's so Persian Um, so gross. I saw the episode I started with because I was going to have this big shot catch-up day So I could talk about it on the podcast with you and it was the episode where Uh, he goes to see a psychiatrist who specializes in gay rage Which I think is hilarious and probably should see him also But uh, he was like making himself the victim and this whole thing and I was like, you know what? I can't with this like that guy is so mean and horrible And now he's like a bigot against his own fucking people and I have to feel sorry for him shut up I'm like Turned it off again. Yeah, that's probably a good idea. I I am still enjoying it though. Um, I think on tonight's episode Gg calls mj a big fat cow or something like that. So You know fun stuff fun mature stuff all around Just your standard. Uh, I will say this by the way, here's a side note speaking of cooking, etc, etc You know, uh in the beginning of the of last week's episode awesome made a little lunch for Uh, gg and mj and temporarily they they all made peace and the food that she made looked delicious And I just like, you know, asa you're so stupid You're sitting here focusing. You're trying to make diamond. What are a thing or Persian pop priestess or tarantulas? Like if I I actually feel like if asa Came out of the cookbook or like moved her specialty into like Persian food or something like that That's something that I would actually like be interested in, you know, because I actually feel like she has authority in that area I mean, I I think she should make leggings for fat people And it's like those kind of leggings that don't like overly stretch over the hips because those are terrible I feel like big people deserve leggings that fit too And I think that that would be a perfect business for her or like Silencers maybe like gun silencers or mufflers for cars anything the quiets things down because every time I see here I just want things to be quiet She should she should sell nose necklaces You know, meanwhile, that was probably like a very like sacred or additional Persian like piece of jewelry that I'm like She should sell bandito bandanas made out of gold She should sell front stoops that have $30,000 with a gold hidden below them Yeah, she should sell shovels and call them like Wells Fargo shovels Dig holes places and bury your parents money there. Yeah All right, I'm trying to think there was something with lily too. Oh, there was an issue with lily because Um lily lily can go back to her on whenever she wants because she didn't leave as a refugee But asa can't because her family they were refugees and lily's like I don't understand what the big deal is just like going back to around and you know asa did not appreciate that Oh Well, are they keeping this gay guy on is he no Sasha? Yeah, uh, we haven't seen anything of Sasha recently. We're gearing up for the big trip. Uh, everyone's gonna go to turkey and uh Because that's as close as that as they can get to iran Uh without being in iran and so it's gonna be a big group trip to turkey Okay, for lily lily. We'll probably just go into iran because she can go there Hi guys Coming to my dinner. I'm bringing fluffernata pooper scooper into iran with me because it's such a free country He didn't run It's like Uh, I'm reading my friend pooper scooper fluffernata peanut wiennet. Enter around please. Does he have clearance? So fun being a horrible person. I know I know I know and so to anyone who's listening to this and making judgments about what I really am like in real life I'm sorry to disappoint you All right, so that should end us up, right? You have anything else you want to add before we do No, no, no, my brain has sufficiently melted It's like a it's like a nice baked brewery at the moment. Yes. 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