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I'll try not to, if you feel the sound of every machineries driving by, and also Ronnie Karam from trashtalkcd.com. Hello. What's up everybody? So, Ronnie. Ben, are you spying on MJ? Are you on slider patrol? I'm looking, I actually probably could see her balcony from here. She's nowhere to be seen. He's just doing that to show off his bicep people. You all know what I'm talking about. Which is a good thing that you mentioned that because we are broadcasting this. Remember the air on a Google Hangout, it'll be posted on YouTube on our YouTube channel, youtube.com/thetvclick, it will be there later on, it's not there right now. If you want to watch it live, you got to come to our Facebook page, link is there. Otherwise, you can listen to us on iTunes or SoundCloud or any of those. Find writings, but if you listen to us, you miss half the fun. You don't get to see, you don't get to see my army, you don't get to see Matt's lovely bumblebee sweater. Bumblebee, this is not a cool, this is not black and yellow, this is blue and white. On my screen, it looks like black and yellow, you look like a bumblebee. I know, dang. Okay, now, so wait, we've been on for two minutes and you're already going to start abusing me, this is an honor of below deck, it's very nautical. It is, well, you look like a bumblebee to us, which is fine, it's adorable, and Ronnie has a guitar behind him. Anyway, this is our long way of saying you should watch us on YouTube. Matt is @lifeonthemlist on various social media platforms. I'm @bsideblog and Ronnie's @trashtalk, trash tweet TV, or sometimes trash talk TV, depends on what platform you're on, like try them both, you'll see what it comes up. Anyway, gosh, we have a lot of bravo things to talk about this week, don't we? We certainly do, sorry for those of you who are tuning in, by the way, for our technical difficulties at the beginning of the episode, but thank you for joining us. I would like to start out by talking about all these casting rumors, because so many of them have been flying around, I want to get your guys' opinions. I would like to start with Orange County. I know we talked about this a little bit last week, but Gretchen and Alexis really seem to be Dunzo. Thank God, thank God. Yeah, I think that that show needs a little shakeup anyway. However, I'm going to really miss Gretchen. Alexis, I was sad last year when we heard she got fired and she wasn't going to come back. I was really sad because Alexis has the best dumb bitch scenes of any out swag that's ever been on. There's a lot of dumb housewives, but Alexis takes the cake. You have to, she's the dumbest. You're going to so miss her acting, her acting classes, I mean, that was pure TV gold. I am. You know, if anyone deserved to spin off, I am going to miss her trying to act. Well, if anyone deserves it, can you guys hear me at all? Am I just speaking into the void here? We can hear you. Okay. We can hear you, but it's weird, because you're outside, I think. Oh, really, is there a delay for me? I guess there is. How about I move inside, whereas the audio will be better. Continue talking inside. As I move my operations inside, everyone can enjoy it. This has disaster written all over it. It does, doesn't it? All right. Keep talking about Gretchen, Alexis. Okay, so Ronnie, then, the Gretchen and Alexis thing I think is kind of depressing, but I'm super happy that they're going to be getting some new bitches in there. And I hope it's someone that really has been watching the show for a long time and wants to take down Tamara and Heather at all turns. Like every turn I want whatever new girls come on to just try and tear down Tamara and Heather. I think they need that. I'm so happy to hear that you are finally on board with team. I hate Heather. I am the fan club president of that. Nothing makes my heart happier, but the other thing, which I think will bryle you up, which I'm excited to do, is that as soon as these rumors started to come about last week with Gretchen and Alexis being fired, none other than our favorite former housewife, Jill Zarin, had to start weighing in and blabbing all about making up our finding ways to get herself published in magazines to discuss the five reasons why you know you're not being invited back for the next season. And what were they? Do you remember any of them? Because I clicked on that article and I could barely even concentrate because Jill Zarin, everything starts clouding off flames flames on the side of my face. You better be careful right now because nobody should ever equate Madeline Kahn's award worthy performance in clue as Mrs. White with the horrible, horrible Jill Zarin, RIP Madeline Kahn. No, no. I'm pouring one out for Madeline Kahn in my into my mouth. I'm being Madeline Kahn, Madeline Kahn hated men and I'm equating Jill Zarin with all the terrible men in Madeline Kahn's life that she ended up murdering spoiler alert if you didn't see clue in the 90s. It was a lot better than the reviews gave it credit for it. All right. Go actually. It came out in 1985, but we're not going to do film history right now. Oh my God. Really? I was so young. My favorite movie ever. Guys, I had so much hair in 1985. So one of the things that Jill Zarin said, she was like, well, one of the ways that you'll know that you're not being invited back for the next season is producers won't call you to ask, Hey girl, what are you up to for the next six months? No shit. Like I think that she's having to explain this to Alexis why it's not happening and that's why she had to make it so simple, but no shit. Here's a great way to find out. What was some of the other ones? Do you remember? I'm busy staring at Ben's chest and that tight white t-shirt. Yeah. Here I am. Can you guys hear me at all or no? You're fine, buddy. You're fine. I probably didn't. You probably didn't. Okay, but let's move on. I want to talk about other casting drama because right now we're in the middle of craziness and we're going to get to the full on craziness with the Real Housewives of New Jersey. But rumors have been circulating this week that Kathy McKeely is now going to be bumped back to a friend of the Housewives that Jacqueline has been fired, that they are bringing back Dina Manzo full time while Caroline goes off and tries to have her spin off and we'll see if that's a success or not. If it isn't, she'll probably come back just the way like Nini ran back to Housewives once her NBC sitcom was canceled. But what is going on with Jersey? I have hated this entire season. The only thing that can save it, in my opinion, is the return of Daniel Spob with a butcher knife. Yeah. I think that the show is exactly where you're going to be. Do Jersey, really? I mean, it's stagnated and, you know, they had such a great chance to make it entertaining this past weekend. We know all the shit that went down at that party. We know that there were charges filed against Jacqueline and her husband and the Albee Boys for being terrorists or something like that, right? Or it wasn't the Albee Boys this time. I think it was just Chris Jacqueline and Joe maybe. Who was it? Anyway, there were like terroristic charges filed against them because they were like throwing sinks and they were supposedly blood all over the place. So I don't know what happened to all of that, but that was some lameness. Yeah, I actually, what was surprising to me was that Caroline segment on the show, and I guess we'll get to it, felt very much like a goodbye segment. It was like, this is Caroline's final hurrah. She's looking around her house, we're remembering all the things from the past few years with Caroline. So it felt very much like a send off for her. And it'd be interesting if they brought back Dina and I would love to see Danielle come back. They do definitely have to clean house. The entire show has completely stagnated. It was two years ago, it was riveting, but it has not evolved. This shocks me because the two of you were some of Kathy Wokele's biggest supporters. I love Kathy. I was. And I've always thought that bitch was boring. Okay. The best thing she ever did on that show was her first scene when she was riding a bike like. I love that. Murder she wrote. Yeah. Because I really liked Cabot Cove emergency. She is the Jessica Fletcher of Franklin Heights. Yeah. She never solved shit. She only solved cannoli mysteries. She did solve a mystery. She found out that her husband's a dick. She saw the mysteries between cannolis and gas stations. She found out that her sister was a lesbian. Yeah. So she saw that one too. Yeah, I don't think that was much of a mystery. So what else? What other guys? Well, I'm not done talking about that. I want to know what you guys think about Dina coming back because, you know, Bravo and a lot of people are saying that Teresa is in desperate need of an ally that she hasn't had for such quite, you know, for quite some time. And I think bringing Dina back's a great idea. My question is, will Dina start throwing daggers at Melissa? Because you saw that they started to paint the picture as Melissa is the villain. Now we're going to turn the tables. And I think by bringing Dina, they're going to make Teresa come back, you know, rise to the top and they're going to go daggers straight at Melissa and Joe. But this, but you know what though, this presupposes that we're going back into the same old fights, you know, the what what appeared to be resolved at the end of this season. All of a sudden, like if for Teresa to need an ally, that means that we're going right back into same old shit, Teresa versus Melissa versus Joe Gorga. And quite frankly, we're done with that. We've seen that now for three separate seasons and with declining returns. So if Teresa needs an ally, then that's a bad sign for the storylines to come. I did not watch season one because back then I was a smart person who liked to actually be creative and like have friends in the real world and not just sit at home and eat all the time. And I had a real life. So I don't really know much about Dina. All I know about her is what I saw on her terrible HGTV show where she would like design parties for people and she was really fucking obnoxious. And then I saw her on that Chris March show where he was making clothes on Bravo for a little while. And he made her address out of asphalt and she was really nasty about it. And it's like, bitch, you just wanted to be on TV, wear that asphalt and shut up. I don't want to hear you complain. So I don't know how much I care about her. How did he make a dress out of asphalt? He's gay and he has a hot blueberry asphalt, but it was like it was this really thick black rock material. It was like real gritty and it looked like asphalt and she's like, this is so uncomfortable because you know, she's walking around and she's like, you know, it was like gravel. She was wearing asphalt basically. So I don't know, I think she's a big complainer. I don't like her, but that's only from what HGTV show me. It was reminiscent of sandpaper. If you come on mad on HGTV, then there's no way you can ever come off good on Bravo because you know, HGTV that ever has a career. It's true too. Are we starting to throw shade at Genevieve Gorder? Oh, she's terrible. You know, that's what I don't understand about HGTV and the Food Network, frankly, like aren't there better people? I mean, Giotto makes a fucking grilled piece of salmon with some honey on it. Bitch, really? You got a cooking show and you're making a grilled piece of salmon. Okay. And then all she does is say, mmm, good, mmm, then we'll have people who can cook on these shows. Well, it's not like HGTV. Genevieve Gorder. Genevieve is not the one to start going after. If you're going to go after anybody, go after Vern yet. Yeah. Oh, he's there too. He's in there too. He's in the mix too. If you gave me more time on those, I'd go through them all. The only one I like is Candice and she's Canadian. Hate her. I don't actually don't know who Candice is. You're just one. You're just going to be a queen of HGTV with all of her shabby chic trash. Isn't, isn't, we're in Genevieve in sort of. Yeah. Yeah. But do you eat? I hate that theme song. It makes me want to kill people. ♪ Be that a sweet idea ♪ Anyway, so the Real Housewives of New Jersey is kind of doomed. The problem is the ratings are so high. So Bravo has a serious problem on their hands. I would just like to put this out there for everybody listening and are watching to us right now on Watch what Crap is. You guys need to not support the Manzo family spinoff. I'm telling you right now, do not support that show. Do not give it ratings. Just that big old bulldog back on the Real Housewives of New Jersey. If we have to put up with her, she should be putting up with Teresa's bullshit. She should not be able to run off and have her own fun spinoff with her family because I don't want to see them play Throw the Ham. Or the XL. Throw the Ham. I don't, you know, I can't see that show doing very well. I think that it's hard enough to watch them on TV with the segments that they have. But maybe it will. Who knows? I would kind of like to watch it because I want to watch all their businesses film is really like there's a certain good feeling I get watching it. And I don't know why because they don't seem like mean people. They all seem fairly nice except for Lauren and it's only because she can't eat anymore. But the rest of them seem like very nice people. I don't know what it is, but when they were showing that clip of Albie telling Caroline he got kicked out of law school, yet again, and Caroline was all sobbing, I was just giggling like a little bit. So what's the best part for me at the whole show? You do bring up a very good point. It would be fun to watch their businesses fail. But more importantly, how much fun would it be to watch their marriage truly fail and for Albert to just straight up cheat on Caroline and walk out on her? That would be heavy. I actually don't feel like that would be so nice to watch. I feel like I would rather just watch the continued failings of their children as they get do one poor entrepreneurial idea after another. So they started with, let's see. The Lauren started a cafe where you can get your makeup done and eat eggs out at the same time. Okay. Not a great idea. Then the kids started, they're like, "Oh, you know what we're going to do? We are going to sell water that is the most unnatural color of all. In fact, it looks like the color of pollution. We're going to sell that." And watching them serve that to Nicholas inappropriate. Inappropriate. And they're like, "Okay, for a third venture, let's go into an industry which has the highest failure rate of all. Are they going to build a spaceship next? Is that their next plan? I mean, they're going to call up Lance Bass and they're going to build a spaceship. I mean, it's going to be like a spaceship that runs off of course poop and never gets off the ground. Yeah, I'd like to see them reenact gravity. I'm just imagining Lauren Manzo spinning around like Sandra Bullock in the space debris and be like, "Oh, egg salad flying in zero gravity." Well, what happens when you put like a lap band into zero gravity? I feel like that would not be good on the lap band. I feel like there would be some. It would be good actually because all you get is that space ice cream. I mean, how much, how filling can that be? Can you throw ham in outer space? That's the real question. By the way, by the way, that is now officially the title of this podcast. Can you throw ham? Yeah. That's it. That's it. I changed the name of the hangout or is it too late? Too late. So something else that has been really fun this week regarding real housewives of New Jersey is Melissa Gorga's book tour. Let's discuss this. Melissa and Joe have been all over the place talking about their book. Well, Jezebel did a fantastic article just ripping this idiot apart about all the parts in her book that sound like marital rape, like when she talks about how you just got to give it up to your husband or when she lets Joe interject and say, you know what, guys, when your wife says no, she really means yes, spin her around and rip her clothes off. Yeah. It's called raping your wife. Yeah. That sounds like the book that Tyler Perry consulted before he wrote Tyler Perry's Temptation because everything in Tyler Perry's Temptation was super rapey. Just putting it out there. At the end of Melissa's book, everybody dies with AIDS. Thank you. Bye, Tyler Perry. Yeah. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. At the end of Melissa's book, she winds up with a limp, addicted to coke and drugs and with HIV. And she has a really jagged lesbian like haircut from Janet Jackson. Yeah. That's pretty much what it is. So anyway. So she's been all over the place giving interviews just to making it worse and worse and worse. And so by the time the finale wrapped up and we got to hear one last time, Melissa's how what did she say? Hot wife, loyal wife, whatever, take a page from my book and it turns out her book was the biggest piece of crap. And one of the funniest lines in the Jezebel thing was it said, well, we'll give her credit for this. It looks like she actually did write it because it's so fucking stupid. I love those girls that work at Jezebel. They are geniuses. If you guys don't know their site, you need to go check it out because anybody that hates on Melissa Gorga is a friend of ours. That's right. I think Gorga is a horrible, horrible girl. Should we just get into this week's episode or something around it? No. We need to save one of those. Yeah. What do you mean, Manny? I was invited to go to the season premiere parties for the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and Vanderpump Rules. They're doing a combo party. I believe it's at bungalow on sunset in a few weeks. So I may be asking you guys if we want to go to that. I would love to go. Yeah. You better invite me. If I see pictures of you with some twink again, I'm going to kick your ass. That is not my type and you know that. So maybe we'll get to Stasi and Shanna and Jax. Have you guys seen the previews? I mean, I thought that they were going to clean house there too and get rid of the ponies and Stasi or Shanna and just really keep Stasi and Jax to focus on, but the whole crowd is back. Oh, good. More of it. They might change it up a little because there was a poster where it looked like there were a bunch of new people on there. There's some newbies, but in the title card that is airing on Bravo right now, all the usual suspects are back, including Jiggy. I think what's funny is that in one of the promo pictures, the guy, there's like an older guy in the cast. Like the manager of the restaurant, he seems like Gino or something like that. So you know, he's probably, you know, and like the cast basically like Lisa and like a few of her friends were older and wiser and are just dealing with the shit that they have to. And then the younger people who just keep on taking up their shirts, but there was a photo shoot where it's like all the guys had their shirt off and then like Gino has his shirt off too. And admittedly he looks great, you know, but I was kind of like, oh, this poor guy like so sad that they're making him take up his shirt. Like he has to like fight with the youngins. Like he shouldn't have to do that. That's like making can take off his shirt. It's not right. It's not right. Even if you do have a good body, like a certain age, they shouldn't be forcing you to take your shirt off. If it's part of your contract, then you should have to do it. Speaking of shortlistness, did you see Andy Cohen's latest shirtless pick on Instagram today? I can avoid Andy Cohen on Instagram as much as I want to talk shit and I do talk shit about him. I cannot unfollow. Well, and you cannot see either he he if you haven't seen it, everyone go to Andy Cohen's Instagram, whatever it's called, probably Andy Cohen. And check out him. I think he's like in a speedo or something and like hair from the 80s, it's, it's right seeing. Really? Well, he's got a really good body, right? I saw a picture of him like last year and I was like, whoa, he's built under there. I was, I'm always shocked when you see somebody like woo, look at him and they're like built and good for him. Are you listeners to stay home reading things? Are you really surprised that he is an egotistical gay man? No. Do you remember when that website connection was around? No, it was like a gay, it was like a gay social networking website. Andy Cohen used to be on that and he'd have like this pictures of him at like Fire Island or the Hampton. You were kidding me. You were kidding. Absolutely not. He was totally on connection. Why not? If I look like that, I'd come on this podcast shirtless. Yeah. That'd be make it all the time. Yeah. I was surprised. You're only middle aged ones, guys. Yeah. Okay. Time. So, we just briefly mentioned the real housewives of Beverly Hills. Have you guys seen the previews for those with the new, the two new cast editions? I think that they look insane. I have an interpretation. Me too. Because don't you think that they're trashing up Beverly Hills? True. Yes. I was just going to say that it's like go ahead. No, they say, but of course the joke is that Beverly Hills is not trashed at all and it's completely as trashes everywhere else, just more money. Yes, exactly. It is, but there's like a certain, it's not as low, it's not as low as the other shows. You know, there's a certain class about that show generally and it was a humongous change when they brought Brandy on because she is total trash. Like, yeah, all the pictures that the press was getting of her were in the Walmart, you know, like literally. Like she was just kind of this trashy girl and still is, but then when people responded to that, they're like, oh, well, it's just bringing more trashy bitches in, but, you know, let's just make them old. I don't know. That's what Beverly Hills is full of. You know, that's really what it is full of. I think I mentioned this many months ago on this podcast about how I went to my parents were in town. So I got treated like a nice dinner and we went to Spago and it was around December and it was just full of middle-aged, wasted women and they're wasted men, men too, and they were like so many women that they all look like Faye Resnick. Faye Resnick is the quintessential Beverly Hills lady. Your skin pulled back, wearing pants that are some shade of silver and your hair that's like like a helmet with highlights and extensions and glitter everywhere, but not an ounce of class in this woman. Or as my dad would say, she has a lot of class, all of it, low. That's what Beverly Hills is. It's all Faye Resnick's. Hashtag love. There's a lot of money, but there ain't, yeah, there's a lot of money there, but there's not a whole lot of class, I suppose. That's true. Yeah. Listen. Adrian Maloof. I think Adrian Maloof is, is a good example of that. Absolutely. The only place anyone can stand to look at her is in LA everywhere else, she'd be laughed out of the room. She has a new younger bow, by the way. I saw her step out of Chateau Marmont the other night with another Sean Stewart look alike. I think that apparently is her type and she can afford to have as many of them as she would like. How much could that possibly cost? Don't you remember what that kid looked like? God bless his heart. He'd look like a baby Homer Simpson. This one is like a cuter, Sean Stewart, mixed with a little Madison from Million Dollar of the Sting Los Angeles. Okay, let's talk about these actual shows, please. We started late today and we have a lot to discuss a lot happening on Real Housewives of New Jersey, for example. Yeah, like people cursed and there was some, there was a big fight and bravo cameras like stop rolling and then they started rolling and they stopped and started and then in like a minute it was over. They completely cheated viewers like ourselves out of what should have been an epic brawl and therefore I hate them. Yeah, I don't know what was up with that. Maybe for the legal reason they couldn't show exactly what happened, but like you can't tell me that they didn't get any of that action. All we heard was just like some, we saw like this guy Johnny the Greek walk in looking like he was ready to deliver a pizza and then maybe eat it too. And then you hear like a crash and then the screen kept going black and like coming back and they're screaming and then it was over. This was like a whole season led to this and if we all remember anytime there's a big brawl on New Jersey, you get like a full episode. That's the fun part, a whole hour of brawl and this was just five minutes against. Yeah. Yeah, okay, this Johnny the Greek guy, okay. So, you know, we found out in the news that this lawsuit of terroristic charges because of this fight were dropped. And Penny and her husband dropped these charges for whatever reason. They came to some kind of a deal behind the scenes or they just got called out for being liars and they have footage to prove it. I don't know what it was, but the charges were dropped or the whole thing was fake tunos. But Johnny, one of the funniest things in this article talking about the charges being dropped was it said, Johnny, Corey, cocker, cocker, doodle, doodle, doodle, doodle is from the rut hut or something. And I looked it up and it's like some hot dog shack that like deep fries hot dogs, like that's what that guy does for a living, okay. So you've got to hand it to these bottom feeders. They actually they've been trying for what four years now to get on TV and they finally became a major storyline on TV and they're on Twitter spewing their ridiculous misspelled hating texts all over the place and it's wonderful and it's better now to know that it's from a guy who deep fries a hot dog. Yeah. I feel like these people spend way too much time obsessing over Twitter. Like that would be the easiest way for them to have a more peaceful existence is to not read about what Penny or Johnny Greek says on Twitter and that goes with the Miami women too, by the way. Yeah. Well, unfortunately, you know, Bravo has said that they judge a lot of their cats. They judge a lot of their casting decisions based on social media and internet. That's just how everything works now. It's like, even when you're up for a job, they'll go look for, I mean, in our industry, they'll go look at your Twitter feed and see how many people are following you and stuff like that. Yeah. It matters. Look at Jill's Erin. Look at her. Oh my God. Be sure to say this. Be sure to say that. Be sure because, you know, she thinks like if someone's nice to run on the internet, she's going to get a show back. Stupid. Shut up. Jill's Erin. Shut up. Shut up. Jill's Erin. Oh, one of my favorite Jill's Erin moments of the week was during that same article Matt was talking about earlier where she said, Oh yeah, you know, I'm still close with everyone for Bravo. Andy and I still speak regularly. Jill, tweeting at Andy on Twitter does not mean you're speaking to him regularly. Shut up. Jill's Erin. Sit down. I know you were standing up when you said that. Shut up and sit down. Jill's Erin. Thanks. By the way, I really liked how you just gave Jill's Erin a Midwest Scandinavian accent. That was a nice touch. Oh, yeah, Jill's Erin's fading from my mind that we need to get her back on. What is her voice? Oh, yeah. She's like, Hey, everyone, thanks so much for watching me on the Real Housewives of New York. Yeah, she's horrible. Okay. So Jersey, the best part of Jersey was Penny saying, yeah, show. Yeah, I could show you the text this is is Oh, yeah, Teresa followed suit by not being able to pronounce the word either. Yeah, the truth is that that was probably the most interesting part is listening to him rhyme checks with the word Texas. That was phenomenal. You want to see the Texas is you didn't say the Texas is don't mess with Texas is well, look. I agree. Don't mix with Texas is I'm I agree with Teresa on this whole thing. If those people had anything on Teresa, there would be texts and there would be emails and there was not just because she has Teresa's phone number doesn't mean anything. And just because they talk shit around Teresa and she doesn't say anything back doesn't mean anything either. We're also forgetting that it is very likely that Melissa was a stripper who did cheat on her husband. Yeah. Oh, yeah, totally. I think that's all. Perhaps even in Texas, not to be confused with Texas is that belong to me. Yeah, they were literally asking for pictures from Texas. Yeah, they're like, okay, so what else about this? Texas is I love that Caroline had to make it out for on a bull. I know. You loved how Caroline had to make it about her and then she started screaming in front of everybody. It's just like Caroline, stop. You are not part of this. Her big like red Bonnie Franklin here was like shaking like a palm tree in a hurricane. She was just getting so why was she getting so mad and I love how she suddenly has this realization. It suddenly occurred to me that the one at the bottom of it all is Kim D. Like, congrats of congratulations. Where have you been for the past four years? I've been wanting to watch her own show for once. Right. And then Lauren Manzo takes two minutes to pull her finger out of a vat of egg salad to spin around and pointed at Kim D and say, it's all your fault. And Kim D is like, you're going to get my hair, hair fangs dirty. She doesn't have her hair. Yeah, I mean, I agree that if Melissa doesn't want people calling her a stripper, then she should give back all the 20s to the Guidos who stuck them in her ass crack for all those years. Yeah. Okay. That's how it's done. Amen, sister. Amen to that. But if you, if you don't want people calling you a stripper, but keep your koochie in the pants, girl. Were you guys hoping we have anything more about Jersey? I wanted Rosie to have an eruption. I mean, it was kind of, you know, whenever there's a fight and Rosie doesn't scream like she did at that reunion last year, it kind of makes me sad. She probably was wasted. There's no doubt about that. Come on. She's making some moves on a mannequin. She's also bonded with Joe Gorga. Yeah. Her fingers probably smelled like plastic by the time she got back in the car. Wow. Well, so this was, the fight was a very small part of it. There's a weird Internet delay that's kind of fucking with us. I know. I feel like Ronnie, you are on a five second delay of some sort. Then let's talk about article. I just moved into a new house and it is really hard to find quality furniture that, honestly, I can afford without feeling terribly guilty. I found the most beautiful stuff on article. I got three bar stools for this bar I built and they are gorgeous. They're mid-century modern brown leather seats. Just beautiful. And not only are they great, but they brought them over and they put them together. It was white glove service from beginning to that. That was my experience with them too. I mean, the truth is that article believes in delightful design for every home. 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He is serving the cheapest 99 cent dollar store hot dogs. He can find out if you're wondering where all the dogs on the real house of New Jersey went. They're in the hot dogs. They're in Jimmy Street. It's like that scene and naked gun when the guy falls in the vat or like the hot dog bat and then they're at the baseball game and they pour finger out of the hot dog. And Joanna, who tries to save them all before they become food for them. That's right. And I love that no one, all the people who were supporting them they're there to be nice to them. Yeah. Even drink them. Listen, this is like the year 2013 it's not 1988 you don't have you don't flavor your fruit punch okay like this is this is not what you're trying to do. Right. The makers of Capri Sun got that down pat in the 80s thank you very much so stop pretending to be Capri Sun. I mean you have to know some basic brandy I think these days you got to call it something like guava mango cocktail or something like that but you don't call it fruit you don't call it fruit punch. Or you know what you call it a bloody piggy you call it that would that I would drink a bloody piggy before I drank the vlk fruit punch. I'm reading all the stuff about the best part of this 90 minute spectacular which was the interview of Jo and Teresa on watch what. Well are we just get past everything. Is there more what else happened? Well there's a whole conversation. There's a whole conversation with Jo and his sister where she squeaked about how she loved him and then he cried and they both cried together and we were left with the illusion of closure and if they're all moving forward the first time ever which we know is a lot. Well it's like the fifth time ever they've had this conversation a million times. And why isn't anybody ever calling Jo out on being an obvious alcoholic with rage issues all he does is get drunk and throat shit how is that okay like why is everyone just okay with that. All the time he's always getting pushed to that limit but I mean listen if you had a brick wall as your sister I think you two would be throwing things and resorting to the drink so I give him a pass. Well he's disgusting. Yeah I don't I don't know we've talked about their stupid issues so many times I have nothing to say about them. Then Jacqueline every time her son comes in she starts crying so we saw another one of those. Yeah that's it right I mean Kathy didn't do shit all Rich did the whole time was go yeah what you think about that Joe well he had nothing to do that's sure I guess nothing really happened which is the theme of the season and I'll tell you one thing when the watch what happened special startup I got about three minutes in before I just pull on passed out really because I actually enjoyed the chat with Teresa and Joe way more than I enjoyed the season finale well tell me about it because I mean I'm telling you I really know that was it was amazing it was amazing first go ahead many I was just gonna say I'm convinced that they are paying them a fortune because that is not part of Teresa's contract and the ratings for it were great as ratings for New Jersey typically are but the ratings for this were awesome and I mean do I mean Ronnie don't you think that they're paying them a fortune to come there and like just dish on all of their tragedies I think it's yeah they probably get a little money I mean right now they need all they can get and also they want to clear their name they're obviously so stupid that they can be talked into doing or saying anything they're so dumb for showing up there because they look more guilty than ever all they did was sit up there and lie lie lie about stuff that has been in magazines and has been on the show one of them Nicole Yarmon is saying my favorite thing was that Joe said to Andy was we claimed innocence for a reason if not we would have pled out you did plead out dodo they rejected it because they have such a strong case against you you know she's like that they just kept saying things though what I don't know what the charges are I don't even understand the charges and Andy's like really you don't understand the charges and Teresa's like no no what what I don't I don't I don't understand do you have them do you have them written that he's like a black male extortion fraud bank fraud male fraud carnival fraud not getting your oil check citizenship status not signing up for it's like every crime that you could ever commit she's like oh okay okay devil's advocate here for a second I cannot believe that I'm gonna actually say this because I hate Teresa not as much as I hate Tamara but she is so dumb Ronnie she cannot pronounce the word texts properly do you really think that she does know what bank fraud is because there's no way this woman knows how to even turn on a fucking calculator she probably she does she probably doesn't know the difference between fraud and frost she's like what so some of them to get a little cold on a bank and that's what happens yellow frost there's nothing wrong with frost not illegal to have frost in a bank oh my god okay not one very hilarious she's like fraud is a genius you can't argue with fraud he's one of the smartest people that ever walked in the world that ever walked in the world I'm gonna send him a text is right now and apologize to you be rude the fraud yo you know what I really learned a lot about myself from all the learnings of fraud fraud taught us a lot about psychiatry and psychologist and stuff so you know I think for me to have bank fraud is like sort of a fraudy and slip for myself which I think is cool and you know I have to keep it cleansed this in that okay I'm reeling this in because I want to get to the point which is she is too dumb to know what is going on don't you think that her husband is really the problem and he probably just pushed a lot of documents in front of her she signed them now she's in trouble and truthfully if she were to save her own ass she should divorce her husband and expose him and say this is a dude who made me sign my life away I have no idea what was going on he is the problem and then I might have some more respect for her and she could move on with her kids she'll be like the Italian blue Jasmine I mean Matthew listen to yourself listen to yourself Matthew alright look back at all the shit she's done in the first or second year Joe had that DUI I think it was a second year because I actually saw this episode he gets a DUI I wasn't drinking I was just you know I got a DUI and I got stressed out so I came back to the house and had a couple drinks and the police came stupid of course he was fucking like everything that comes out of their mouth is a lie the second year they were filing for bankruptcy for millions I mean millions of like eleven million dollars wasn't it it was like a humongous amount that they were basically asking the court to say oh well we don't have to pay back this eleven million dollars to people because we're bankrupt or whatever so they robbed basically robbed those people and in order to declare bankruptcy they had to say all of these different things one of which was that Teresa didn't have a job or that she was a like a secretary or something to Joe and that was her job oh no that was for the bank loan to get the bank loan she had to say she was a secretary which she wasn't she didn't have a job and then for the next thing she's just all this lies she of course she's a liar and he told her he was like honey you gotta you gotta fucking tell a lie you know just tell him this and she's like okay I listen she tells herself lies too so she would probably say I didn't know nothing I had no idea what's going on because she actually is but that's a lie but she it's a lie she told herself and she actually believes it I mean she's just a crazy woman with no and she knows what bankruptcy is she knows that if you're declaring bankruptcy you're supposed to have zero money and she's walking around in this huge mansion and spending all this money on clothes we see Joe handing out cash to everybody on the air I mean they're just fucking more and they're rocker players like I'm not gonna stick up for Theresa when you're a burglar she stole money when you're a TV star you can't wear the same outfit twice oh my god that was hilarious I cannot believe she said that she said that on the thing Joe said that they had to go out and buy him a ton of new clothes and her new clothes because she can as a TV star you cannot wear the same outfit twice and then what was her response thanks honey like oh my god you too or so but you know what's so funny these idiots they don't realize okay so you don't want to be seen on camera in the same outfit but what happens is you get filmed doing these interviews and those interviews get spliced through every show throughout the entire episode throughout the entire season so in many ways you're seen in the same outfit on multiple multiple episodes so why would you it's they're so stupid stupid people stupid stupid stupid people by the end of the episode I was convinced that they are both going to jail now I don't think that she should go to jail for as long as Joe is but I mean Ronnie didn't you kind of get like it was like somber not somber because we're not gonna cry for them but it felt really weird in that clubhouse with Andy Cohen like Andy convinced me that they are going to jail well yeah I mean there's a those are so many charges and we okay there's two good points made on Facebook one of them is with the other charges Joe's drive you know his fake licensing that's not even included in all of it he's been driving yeah I've seen him driving on camera I don't understand how he's able to drive when he's got that whole I mean that's the thing it's like if it's not one thing it's another I mean it's it's beyond just this broad I mean that's beyond the DUI it's that he also walked into a DMV and tried to get a license with his brother's picture I mean that's just such a blatant ridiculous and unnecessary fraud right there like they do stupid well how just how disgusting his bravo though because you guys they are clearly fast tracking the next season I mean that's why they need to lock in this cast because they want to film all of the shit that goes down with Teresa and Joe and I believe that they said that the trial is set for sometime into February I feel like it's like right around Valentine's Day which is awesome but probably is taking advantage of them not that they don't take advantage of all of these women and you know just ruin their lives for the sake of ratings but how do you feel about them fast tracking the season to include all of this stuff I mean is that what's going to hook us for one more year on this like shitty cast I think it's good I like that I don't like it because Teresa's off limits everyone has to be nice to Teresa which I don't like Teresa's a villain and people need to be telling her off and Teresa's best when she's back to the corner with the crazy blink also speaking I feel like it's a lot of this is going to be I think Andy likes Teresa and I think that he's going I think that the show likes Teresa I mean obviously she's the crown jewel she is the crown jewel show she's the one that deserves the spin off are you kidding me so this is gonna all be that we're supposed to feel sorry for Teresa this is gonna be a Teresa pity here we're not gonna have Caroline thank Jesus but you know we don't know who we're gonna have yet now if we have some trashy as hookers like if they get Jan on that show and Penny and all these bottom feeders it's gonna be disgusting to watch but it's gonna be super fun I just want to add real quick that Derek said on Facebook you know that Teresa was lying to the whole interview because of that blink yeah right you're right realizing the blink the blink and the squeak squawk are the dead giveaways for that girl I have all the Texas is right here it's next to my list of ingredients is I mean you guys don't find this Matt how funny was it where Andy cone was like you know he's trying to play this role you know he deserves an Oscar because he's trying to play this role where he's buddies with her and he really cares because the ratings matter and if Teresa goes to jail that might hurt you know the franchise but then he turns around and he's like so Teresa how do you think you'll you'll fare in jail like that I mean what kind of question is that you know I'm just excited for when she finally goes to jail and then Andy Cohen is up in his little clubhouse and he's like hey they just went to jail let's do let's see the remix of them going getting cart off in handcuffs that's gonna be like your ten years ten years ten years ten years guilty and he'll be like smiling like tonight's drinking game is convicted muscle of the day orange who doesn't love orange the here's orange orange Campari is Dina Manzo anyway what we have a lot of other shows talk about so is there any last thoughts last thoughts Matt um I hated this season I really think that I am excited for Atlanta to come back and I don't care about Jersey that's how I feel at the end okay I just like to point out before we start with Miami that Miami was terrible and nothing happened and we also really need to talk about the other shows this week because we did not talk about them last week and there's a lot of bullshit that needs to be said okay we're moving ahead we are rolling forward okay Miami Miami Miami the star of Miami is clearly mama Elsa she was on TV for the first time in a very long time she came home from the hospital she thought that there was a piece of fish in her glass and it was TV gold people TV gold it was it was fantastic mama Elsa is like no one else she's great I was hacked I was actually happy to see her as lucid as she was and I know it's sort of like an oxymoron to say lucid with mama Elsa but seriously since she did have a stroke I was afraid she'd be very sort of catatonic and she was just as funny as always I thought it was also cool to kind of see mary sol's father pop up and to look back through that photo album and I will say this mama Elsa was kind of like a looker for the early 80s and then that plastic surgery just took her to hell yeah well it's unfortunate did you ever do you have the sense looking at Marisol's father that he may have possibly built Jurassic Park at some point in his life that is that is definitely Richard Attenborough and I was looking for an amber ring with like a little bug in it you know I was like I'm just waiting for a Velociraptor just so like burst onto Star Islands I shouldn't do that today because I've already pissed people off with my screech sorry everybody I can't do it today I need to warm up before the show okay I'm gonna go through some other I love it by the way every Miami recap just wind up me and Ronnie doing crazy noises okay okay the two of you are the ones I'm going to long because every time I say so let's move on to the show you said wait wait I have something left to say about this one show and there's another five minutes talking about someone's button that was a skew I like attention to detail yeah Matt Matt okay I'm gonna bring up another yeah Matt another topic that gets you guys riled up here I'm actually team Alexia I feel bad for this woman I actually think that she's trying to be a good mother and her son is just an asshole yeah I feel bad for her too I have to say I like Alexia I think she's I think she's generally good heart but I think a little dumb a little dumb she sort of listens the wrong person at all times you can't be that smart if you're gonna marry a drug lord I mean she's she's basically a little bank fraud away from being Teresa that's a very smart move on her part little did she know that the fact that she was formerly married to you know a crook that that is the reason why she's on the show then that's why she has any money that's true to actually I take it all back I like Alexia's mom I like I do find Alexia's mom to be a sophisticated Spanish lady sitting down in her chair as their blazers and whatnot I love that when you say sophisticated Spanish lady it forces you to shimmy in your seat it does because I feel like that's what she'd be doing if she could if she could be she can't because she's a lump on a log yeah I thought she was so great first of all this is how she sits down she is like like all totally Steph did like your father was considered a loser I don't want you to identify so much that you are a loser to dear dear artists who are watching our show and are listening to our podcast I would really love somebody to create an Emmy I'm looking at you I would really like a Spanish job of the hut female somebody needs to know what that happened today today we will be talking about you Peter and decided that you just ordered and why you are when you come butter milk side today Peter we are going to talk about your mother and why she never taught you to put your napkin and your lap at the restaurant just like now Peter today Peter you finally got into the point well we can go buy you a bra grandma I'm not going to thank you for whatever point you are what we call a loser and I am showing you this this restaurant because I know you will never be here again because all you do is he from seven of eleven seven of eleven I love when mama Elsa was like I know we're pajamas I think is really I mean I'm so glad that they put her on TV but she that was a little too soon I think she needed a few more weeks to realize that those were pajamas yeah yeah well our girl Leah was not on the episode at all by the way did you notice that well no one will talk to her it sucks but I mean there's no one to be on it with Joanna is going to pretend she has sexual issues with her gay husband and Lisa's you know got to hang out I guess with her where she's getting my power whatever she's like now you finally knows what it feels like to have plastic surgery I'm like listen Lisa yeah sorry this is not his first his first procedure okay that hair was not natural and neither is that skin tossiness it did look like he had I never had lipo and I've considered it many a time but it did look like he had a gunshot wound to the abdomen it looked like he had been soaking in grape soda and the armpit he had like a big thing in the armpit too I guess they did that all over any how how funny are like dumb straight lazy straight dudes like she looks into the covers and she's like you're sleeping in a pool of blood and he's like it's fine that was a really disturbing moment in the show by the way you're sleeping in blood let me let me I thought it was kind of funny though that she kept poking and prodding him she was just not gonna let that go she was like the cameras here I need a storyline I'm gonna beat up my husband who's bruised from head to toe yeah I felt bad for them this week because again it was another week where they were just also desperate for something to do and it was just all terrible like Adriana and Joanna making up I mean boring then Adriana it's just Adriana's bachelorette party like who cares there's nothing going on it's like you've got five hags and the one of the worst trannies I've ever seen like come on the last time I saw a party look as boring as that was the time that Brianna went to Las Vegas on Orange County with her friend and the two of them sat at a table and drank smoke from a hook up and in time to casino they were also staying off the strip exactly this is was this is the equivalent of that you're in Miami and this is the best you can do for a bachelorette party and by the way I wanted I want to specify that I'm calling Lauren the worst tranny ever not because of how she looks because she does things like this oh she she said that to you hello is this passive aggressive this is me Lauren I don't she's like she found somewhere she found all the rejected jokes from sex in the city from 1998 and she's like I'm gonna make it my material yeah they're not even jokes she just says things in like a gay guy voice and everyone starts laughing she's like oh my god that girl is stick is a pen I'm gonna call her a big she is terrifying on all levels and she really needs to get that skin sandblasted yeah I was this pink martini I feel so cosmopolitan that was actually funny though that thing is that she makes all the stupid puns that I know that I probably make on a daily basis exactly so it's probably just been it's been in a blonde wig I think it's different cuz you're actually act kind of like a straight guy cuz you were straight for so long so you've still got straightness about you he's just like you know that bar the Gold Coast here never been never been on Santa Monica not insane isn't it called the west Hollywood there's this bar the old coast the old coast it's all the gold yes yeah the G burned out a long time ago girl the old coast yeah and in there you know god bless me they're nice and I love going there but you know why go love going there because I feel like Katy Perry in there feel like the youngest well I guess she's not as young and fresh maybe I should say Miley Cyrus I feel so young and fresh but she's like one of those old queens at the gold coast he's like hey what you ordered just a martini oh you're gonna get wasted it's like her with her penis kind of now I don't know about you guys sorry got sidetracked when when Adriana I got sidetramied when her was when Adriana burned her wedding dress it actually honestly it kind of offended me because I'm like you know here's a dress here's a dress that you fake bought for your fake wedding which clearly bought it probably about two weeks ago from David's bridal just and then said oh I've been holding on to this for all these years ever since my wedding got canceled but I was like that you just that dress had its tags on then that could have gone to a very that could have gone to a happy Kingston era well I honestly I really felt like you know my wedding got canceled we canceled canceled the wedding was not to my sea under it sold they got canceled canceled I had an empanada so but here's the thing though those wedding dresses are not cheap and it's like I felt bad because she could have donated it she could have given it to she could have given it to one of those those wedding dress I think she'll play drip shop or second hand or Chanel from Long Island Princesses I know either way it was just such a waste I know that one oh yeah I know it actually really offended me I was like you're burning your your wedding your wedding dress that was a fake wedding dress or fake wedding just to show something yeah but she was probably burning it just because you know Leah bought it she was probably doing it just a bit oh and by the way to get back to to Adriana and Joanna making up I totally knew as soon as they make up I was like they're gonna make up because Adriana has a new enemy and she's gonna send that twist this into Leah is the problem and then so then Adriana was like well you know the real problem started when Leah brought Jo Francis to your house I'm like don't you be starting like that don't act like Jo Francis is the evil when you were friends with Jo Francis don't try to turn Joanna against Leah like you're the one who made the crazy lie Adriana sorry yeah Adriana just you know that's enough why she's a good housewife because she's just so crazy she believes her own bullshit and she's nothing but a psycho spreading you know she turned against any one of these girls and she practically did it's like that day that Alexis said that she what she's gonna go to the gala and they were all turned mean girl on her and just refused to speak to her and like brushed her off and like yeah who does that these women are all really really horrible and I I would be okay if they were more fun to watch but oh it's like right you know like wiping up the blood off your trophy you know your old husband weird look and husband and it's nothing's appealing about this show now right now none of us better ones are fun it was better last the best things were the old ladies yeah but it was better than likely because the old ladies got more lines yeah um I will also say this this week also featured the bonus of seeing romaine lettuce not only shirtless but in glasses which Joanna Cooper did not like him in glasses but I thought it was hot everyone else yeah he's really cute he's really I thought you guys this season he's getting like a huge seat oh oh he's so so cute oh he's got really pretty Joanna Joanna I should do that for Joanna what you do that for Joanna I'm like when he said this we're all playing stupid you want to go play the Wii yeah did he say that yeah he he wants to go play with I mean I know that none of these people are you do that for Joanna why you do that for because you're not up to my standards he is hot and he's like cute to see you too it's not like an asshole first of all I was surprised that they didn't have Dr. V come in to be the sex therapist because they love to rotate those people around but did anybody else realize that exactly what she suggested was an episode of modern family from the second season with Phil and Claire at the bar yes it was yeah well also the plot of a Reese Witherspoon movie didn't one of those movies start where her and her husband were like acting like they were on a blind day eight and then you find out that they're really married and it's like the things went what the things went bad no I'm just I feel like wasn't it also sort of like the plot of true lies minus the nuclear warheads oh my god god that was the last time I think Jamie Lee Curtis was really like spreading it on on the films now she's in those weird activity commercials and we're where it's okay everybody your sex symbol is now pooping regularly mad as we can all sleep at night the question of the podcast and where is your career well she's unanswered oh she's yeah I'm sure the you're a career at more like she know where what else happened I'll stupid my I will do that your career I you do that shut up or leave the ballroom I'm not waiting your bajamas payamas no luk woman will be yamas with you sir is that your payamas are considered to be like loose of the yamas didn't you like that she wanted my sorry so when my son was young okay never mind I'm done run is under the way Matt that's all yeah when when you was young I didn't realize it was my responsibility to tell you your father was in prison no like who am I supposed to say like that I thought it was the best thing for me at that time you know I love your father I love your father so much but I have to leave I had to leave your father I'm sorry that is what I had to do and I hope you like I just want you to be happy I just want to be happy now here's a bottle of vodka go drive home god go kick a taxi because if it makes you happy it means he has to kick a taxi then he has to do that that's all that's all I want for him that's all I want and I want to be with the crazy people of Miami all right let's move on for Miami please I hate it and wishes wish it was dead right now although that said I'm gonna be on Leah's Leah Black's recast next Monday night her after show right after the show Eastern time and I'll post that Monday afternoon so you guys can find it okay come watch it and talk to us it'll be Amy Phillips me Leah and some training I don't know are you two men no no I am I'm not scheduled any time anytime anytime you so you'll be after me then they rotate us out like a couple hours I know the last time I was on it was it was me Leah the Leah's drag queen friend James and this like random couple this like older couple and I really have no idea what was going on I am so glad that I am not invited to these things because if you were on that it would be serious I would just be very very very mean well you know this horrible delay that we have on this episode it's like that every odd screecast is just like that that's the way it is and it's really rough because one person will say something and there's like 10 people on it one time then everyone stops at once it's like it's like it's like trying to go through this intersection where everyone at the stop sign it's like an LA story you know everyone stops and everyone goes once it crashes that's what kind of kind of reminds me of that podcast we did that one time where I pretended to have technical difficulties because it got so pissed off that we were including those other people that I shut my computer and was like fuck this I'm done yeah it's like that yeah but with Leah in a turban so it's fun yeah also we got to do with Lance Bass and his fiancé Turkey and Turkey was so fine and I just kept staring at the screen I was like he's so cute Turkey and I was on a place to be I was on a few seconds because I would start talking and the producer she kept on taking me off the screen I was like okay bye Lance bye Lance and me too if they were switching us out like a couple of whores that's what I'm saying it's like but that's what just out like mid-sentence so we'd be like so here's my question for everyone at the last one you see your screen coming off yeah like the heart you're like wait wait my question frosted yeah she wasn't paying very much attention to that part of it but yeah um that was really hilarious okay can we talk about me okay never gonna talk about me we're talking okay i watched i watched Nini i mean Nini okay i like it good for you have you liked it that was your first time so you go first yeah um so I saw the most recent episode which aired exactly a week ago um and that was when first Marlow was on it i don't know if she's been on already but like Marlow was on and Marlow got into a fight with this woman Diana and what I liked about it was that the producers for ones didn't overdramatize the fight they just had this fight and Nini was like Diana Diana and that's and you know you're sort of sitting here like this girl's getting all plusy and Marlow's getting plusy but it's sort of like light-hearted um and then there was this big fight with the the kids um and that was entertaining too and um I enjoyed it more than I thought I would um because Nini is one of the only housewives that is deserving of her own spin-off because she can actually hold an hour programming on her own she can she actually can believe it or not i know i was shocked when I said it last week but i'm totally into the show and can we just talk about Greg's children for a minute sure holy shit that whole fight was something else wow i mean that was a typical that's where Nini i was gonna say to Ben when he was talking about that's where Nini's trying argument with the bridesmaids and stuff i mean yeah Nini is the star of this one she's not fighting for attention it's all about her so she's not turning to the normal Nini antics she's actually trying to be a good person which is weird to watch um so the bridesmaids things is very funny but this family thinks she just turns straight up Nini again where she wouldn't let anybody say anything all she did was yap yap yap you know but you checked me in my ass oh and oh and i know you didn't look at me like Ben i know you didn't go to the radio station i know i'm like oh my god you know that she is down it was like she doesn't actually argue well of yellow you know but she knows how to yell and argue you get me in an argument because you can't get a word in entice but she knows she can do a filibuster like no one else it's like the two of you are Nini and i'm just me yeah oh poor Matt there needs to be a bravo so-called poor Matt and then we can all call in each week and be like this is why i feel bad for Matt today Matt starts your career on on his podcast can't hear her be Matt it's just too thin she's the band leader oh i'm Matt she's my band leader well actually she uh she could just sing ballroom blitz she go over and over and over and over and then you can look at her and think of dream weaver oh my god that's my new cell phone game ballroom blitz people in the ballroom just runny i hate your shit i'm putting it on here i'm putting it here ronnie i hate that you're on this weird five second delay because you keep on commenting things like five seconds later and it's very disoriented i don't have him on a delay i have you both live i'm sorry my problem now is that you're a little bit only happy yeah ronnie's now i think it's with the band ronnie you're a robot buddy ronnie's a robot so as the robots are on delay automatically speak ronnie okay let me give you his robot robot robot robot and robot robot i think these i think this is they will say make a message if you're gonna do that at least do a robot dance you have to do a robot dance with that uh it's people of the internet i'm sorry i'm a message yeah we apologize especially on audio i think this is a sign that we have to start going back to skype oh bye there goes ronnie well maybe now we'll all be on the same page when he comes back oh wait let me invite this poor guy back into this okay i can do this for about three more minutes because it's getting old okay ronnie let's get him back into this show so anyway um so nini i liked i liked i dream of nini i um you know greg annoys me i'll be frank i think yeah i mean i don't really really annoy i don't really get why she's with him i mean i understand that she needed his money when she was po but like yeah now is she just afraid of dating like i mean she could look she is a moose no doubt but she has money and she's powerful and she's famous she could at least date tyler perry she could listen she's got a booty and doesn't matter what your face looks like if you got a booty for certain guys okay and she could probably do quite well if she wants to welcome back ronnie whatever whatever roba still robot can you hear me can you hear me roba still robot okay just ignore my kendall talking all this listen to these guys okay so you have a robot listening to us um so here's the thing with greg i find him i feel like he's actually genuinely a stupid person i think he's a very stupid man right well look at the way that he interacts with his children yeah and he's like a shyster too i feel like everything he says is is full on bullshit you know when he's like the goal and my goal now is to get the whole family together i'm like no your goal now is to be back on tv and earning residuals and all that you have that's all and i feel bad from his kids and i did you did you notice also um at the end of the episode did you see that it's nini leeks productions i did that was one really that was the thing that really stuck in my mind after the first episode again i liked it and i like nini and i think that she makes for good tv but it's just like they're beating us over the head with how fake this is and how it's just all a money-making scheme for these people yeah absolutely i just especially greg i just really i don't buy his motivations or he to me is a total shyster that being said those kids his kids are they make for good tv they do i mean i almost i want to hear and see more from them i guess we'll find out probably i think it's actually the next episode is airing right now as we speak i think it's just about to start but um yeah you know i'll tune in i'll see how this works out there's a lot of screaming which i appreciate now do you think um that nini should have a newer friend via bridesmaid um no no i think bridesmaids are meant for people to go back go deep how long do you have to know someone before you can be invited to be a bridesmaid or or a best argument well i mean i'm not a category expert but um i like to make bold statements and i say minimum five years well i say for your first wedding maybe you're like third or third and you're like wearing a guy again for the second time that those those rules don't apply and no one's gonna have to bring you a fucking gift either while we're at it roba ronnie what's wrong with your connection i don't know okay i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna just continue watching guys and uh get out of the scene i'll see you next time i know why don't you put it on why don't you put it on why don't you put yourself on mute and then add what you have to say on the chat on the side okay okay okay okay run is still here with us and you can give us thumbs up or thumbs down so anyway um um so we're talking about um so i don't think you have to be five years before and what if you're like a roommate to somebody what if you're like living somewhere i think two years is good i think two years is a good amount of time well i don't know i mean this is like well how long before you can call somebody your girlfriend or like there's everybody has different rules for everything and you know i don't think well never mind i'm just gonna do you notice did you more importantly did you notice very casually nini mentioned that the former lead singer on the will be one of her bridesmaids right which means don richardson no don robert robert robinson don richards is i don't know who don richards is you know no don richardson different different no don richard i think was a former member of danny decane oh and don robinson don robinson is an invoke and don there's a don and who's shawn and who's shawn robinson is she like a reporter for extra tv yeah access i know what i think actually um a different world is not the the character was named don but i forgot the access name right and don luis we've moved on her name is ludon luis wasn't it but then who's donald luis didn't she sing i love you always friend you're in fun rhyming about like we think a manual luis who is the star of tv's webster and did you hear that webster's dad recently died george pappadopoulos he did he did die i know his name pappadopoulos he's a former football player right yes but his character was george pappadopoulos and then he would open the little grandfather clock and um webster would pop out and his real name was like larry songo or something like that or no that's the guy who was also the co-host of american gladiators with mike adamly oh exactly i'm an american gladiators uh we had was that was that someone named torchon there or someone named siren oh siren was the death girl oh but you know that there was the there was the new american gladiators with hulk Hogan and ley lally that is true and ley lally who is no relation to tatiana allie who was on fresh prince of bell air with uh alfonso ribiero who i cannot properly pronounce his last name which was also on the mbc lineup along with a different world the dawn circle comes together complete um i don't know i i enjoyed uh i do meanie but i don't know if i had a huge amount to say about it no i'm just watching it i'm enjoying it i think that i'm probably enjoying it more because tamara is now off the air and i don't care about roc wedding um but yeah i'll tell you what else i watched this week i watched this season the season perhaps series finale of each drink love did you watch that you are alone dude i gave up after four episodes i gave up a while ago too and then i came back for this ending and i have to say the the the season finale epitomized what works and what didn't work about the show which is that the first like ten minutes were super caddy and full of like all the promise and potential that was just gonna say this it was it was like you know this this lindsey mixologist girl started up with uh caddo del and they were all being caddy like well i don't know if i i don't know if i've been supporting the event and i don't know if i could do this and they were all talking back and forth and i was like oh i was like oh you know i forgot how caddy does show it can be how great it can be and then you know the rest of the episode is sort of like bell and this slow like Nina was doing a pop-up and she spent the whole episode being like yo i'm too tired for this fucking shit yo i can't do this yo it's so hard for me to do this yo like my boys are in their working yo i can't do this pop-up yo and Marcel was there i do love Marcel and that's why it's still on my dbr because i will enjoy that um he looked good on the late shift he will always did he always did he's my little wolverine but he looks better than he ever has he somehow filled out a little bit he's Marcel look good Ben will you be watching um are you excited i'm actually really excited for the season premiere of top chef uh New Orleans oh i'm very excited for that and i have to say you guys were shooting on top uh top chef masters i love the season and i heard i heard from some other friends that this was the best season of top chef masters yeah it was a good casting you know because last year the casting was very dull maybe even the year before that too this year i was like in it i like the chefs um they cooked a finale meal that james oslan said was the best it ever had on the show wow yeah you know i love james oslan he's a great judge um having gail simmons around is always makes me happy i don't like her to stone that much uh prawny's back your kurta stone kurta stone is not worthy of any tv screen um anything any reason to bring gail back makes me happy yeah but like you said it's all about casting and i'm really hoping that top chef new Orleans brings a great cast hopefully they'll have a few less um fork and knife tattoos because that makes me so fucking mad um no you're gonna get a bunch of nenas you're gonna get a bunch of nenas from eat drink love will be talking as if they're like i mean she literally was you think i'm joking when i'm saying yo i'm working so hard yo but that's actually the way she was talking on this finale oh can you hear me now or am i so yeah yeah yo we can hear you yo oh my god okay nina okay i can't believe you're doing this to me y'all get that camera away from me now y'all i'm meanin y'all that's not cool i can't believe y'all don't like my food yo yo like my boys are back you're working on this yo she's trying so hard to be street that is some little rich girl who's trying to be street sorry honey you just a little rich girl be okay with it and spend a lot of money like most little rich girls and stop trying to get a blue collar job to try and prove something to somebody you don't have to prove anything to me but stop saying yo so much you're ridiculous don't you one thing that i'm sad about with each drink love is that i wish you were a bigger hit if only for the amount of catadale gifts that it would have spawned because catadale is always giving these looks that would be perfect for internet medium she was like sorry people who are only listening you're missing me doing my catadale catadale is i think that this is another bravo show that they threw at us so quickly and they were like let's just make it about a bunch of food girls and follow them around some cameras and we'll see if we can put something together and they get in the editing room and they try and make it something but by the end it kind of knew what it was going to be at least it was better and i was entertained by the show i just think that they're it's so shoddy the way that they greenlit like five million shows this year and they're all total crap i mean so far they've all been total crap even below deck which is coming back and did well don't you think fight your tongue you horrible person i became a below deck convert i don't think below deck was crap i hated that one okay did you guys talk about we're talking about um top chef masters actually and and also excitement for top chef in warlands we should really up our top chef coverage for the season i think i'm in i am full we failed last season on that bus well because the cast was shit i am full i love the last season i talked a bit about it last year i sure we did talk about it well we're gonna make sure top chef gets nicely represented i'm fully committed i'm fully committed i'm just not a top chef masters person i don't know why me too i'm not i'm not into masters i'm only it was good it was good this season i'm telling you and i the guy who won i loved him he was like he was really adorable he's like the sweet gentle guy i liked him but he's like funny too i have to um announce to you guys that i have got to quit watching the new atlanta i can't i just can't okay then what's your take because i cannot do it i can't i only i'm telling you i watch as much as i said i watch last week and i can't the only thing i like is then the promos africa says girl bye that's it girl i'm gonna you guys talk about it for two seconds i'm gonna try there's nothing i didn't watch it i didn't watch it okay well i'm gonna look up the ratings right now to see if it's gonna bother us for the rest of time or if the show's gonna get canceled so stand by yeah i that show is just so stupid i hate the guy who thinks he's like this big music producer and that he's so fine and that everybody wants to sleep with him and he shows up wearing t-shirts say things like hot ham or whatever the hell his t-shirt said i was like really you're like in your 30s stop it like grow up a little i don't know i just don't i don't like anybody on usually you have to like really like someone and really hate somebody i don't like anybody and i can't even really hate anybody because the girl who's trying to be the villain is she's just so young and stupid i don't know i think it's like that problem i had kind of with gallery girls where they're so young i feel bad making fun of them you know there is nothing ever wrong with gallery girls so don't ever say that again yeah no i loved gallery girls but i remember saying while that show was on like i you i would just forgive them for everything like if they were really super mean behind each other's back i'd be like but they're 20 so it's okay the ones that i really have a have the trouble with are the old ladies who are still acting like that that's what i have problems with but like the young kids i'm like well they're thin and they're not on drugs and they've got a job so i mean for all i care they could be kicking old ladies in the street you know yeah yeah i don't know you guys new atlanta yeah that's a lot of posers on that show what tell us that i have really bad news is it doing really well oh i haven't even gotten to that yet but i just looked at the ratings for the real housewives of miami last night and less than 700 000 viewers that is down with gallery girls ratings well look we've been the biggest cheerleaders i think on this show for real housewives but the producers don't deliver ronnie so if we can't keep changing the show but it's so boring week after week yeah we can't just keep making ourselves well it's good the first week episode the season we're good but the past for three have been damn that is bad news that is bad ratings okay keep going i'm gonna find us i'm gonna find sunday nice ratings it's a shame because i think that real housewives of miami even with dull it's it's beautiful to look at i love this world that bravo is going into like how many shows about atlanta can we can we possibly watch no more as many but like i like that miami world that miami's space that they're in and um i i i want to show the survive i do too i just think you know you can't have it kind of has to be a team effort these girls they're on their third season but it's basically like their second season because their first season kind of didn't count like that was a rule again true true so this is their second season and their their their real second season was so good because there were so many women and they were all really going at it and this one they're just all being meat so and look i'm not saying that lee is like perfect and doesn't deserve to get bitched out or whatever like she says a lot of smotty things do but it's just hard to watch all these women gang up on one woman because it makes them not interesting you know it's like all up adriana's ass and she's horrible like why would you choose that woman's side you know just because she's the scariest and they're they needed they needed to have a new cast member plus joanna has not been drinking this season and as a result she hasn't been crazy so also mr marta marta made for good tv as well marisole is on uh a lot even though she's not a real housewife she is basically a real housewife they just must have cut out all the little parts where she's like i'm marisole like they cut all the posing parts but she's still a main housewife she's boring as hell adriana's boring as hell because she's not really fighting with anybody except lea and lea won't fight back so it shouldn't have gotten rid of current sierra that's they should not they should have kept her around because she caused drama too and they should have also kept around the evil the one who turned evil at the end on who was like nice and boring the whole year until the end when she turned into satan like she needs to be back on too but she was great on the um on the reunion because she actually did something and actually got up in people's faces and then it's like we never saw her again yeah yeah they made a mistake they found a cast that worked and then they got rid of all the ones that were fighting or had issues it's like why would you do that and stupid stupid stupid stupid um stupid they also don't have a fiery latina in there they they've got adriana but they need to have like they didn't need to keep lisa honestly lisa there was no reason to keep lisa they should have gone they should have found a vet big brother six and sold a vet okay guess what you're on a new show and you can be on here and be crazy and nasty well there are plenty of crazy latinas they could have had on there i don't know let's just i don't the bad bad bad bad job bad job this year guys i hope they pick it up though because i hope like the last few i mean how many episodes are we in like seven we still got a ton of episodes well i know the the season order is not as long as it is for something like Beverly Hills or new york by any means oh is it like a 13 episode i always talk about 13 do you notice they did this they did like the halfway coming up this season on miami they did that last week yeah i already feel like we are now in the home stretch where we got to knock out two weddings and then get to the reunion yeah well the way yeah the weddings will be the end they'll be the last the last one prop the last thing probably man whatever i have also another that's another problem which is that they were given the the season arc storylines of weddings which again it's something that i think people on prop i don't really care about people who watch so i think girl housewives of miami has completely brought this podcast down so i want to i'm ready to like wrap this up yeah let's wrap it's almost time but i do want to say something you guys people on our facebook page have been asking us to watch real housewives of vancouver forever and i just keep ignoring it and i'm like i've got enough i've got enough okay every time they say that i say mail us some dvd's people yeah oh it's on youtube you don't need it it's all on youtube every episode on youtube i want somebody to if somebody we're getting an apple tv girl excuse me i do this for free any uh oh anyone want to take that long i just wanted to say thank you because i was desperate last week before all the fall premieres came on sunday and gave me like 10 hours of tv to watch on one day wow this is probably the worst housewives i've ever seen it's the cheapest the people on it are the most awful fucking people in the world and i can't stop watching it i mean these women are barracuda's they are horrid there are two women in particular named ronnie and jody ronnie of course ronnie are total ronnie and jody uh-huh if no yeah i hope i would be ronnie because she's richard but yeah they're uh they're vile women and we probably want to talk about it on this show because i'm the only one watching it but i wanted to thank the listeners you've sold me on i'm going home to watch youtube right now i mean it's horrible and they rip off every housewives story at like one lady teaches her kid to drive and then there's the one where we're concentrating on the lady's business like the business one and i mean it's all of the tropes but it's i mean it's just vile you've got to watch it these women are disgusting the things they end up doing to each other are really worth it it's it's terrible tv but it's fine okay i'll watch it so thanks listeners sold and also thanks listeners for listening to watch what crappins live this was kind of a disaster delay show but we're live every Tuesday at 430 pacific time you can find us on our facebook page at facebook.com/watch what crappins or on twitter at what crappins you can find them at vsideblog.com or at vsideblog on all the major social media outlets and you can find matt at life on any mwest m list on all of the social outlets i'm on youtube at youtube.com/trashtrottv t-e-e-v-e-e and i'm on instagram at 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