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This episode of Watch What Crap Is is brought to you by Squarespace, the all-in-one platform that makes it fast and easy to create your own professional website or online portfolio. And if you don't have one of those things, you really should because it's 2013, not 18-13. Huh, burn. So if you don't have one of those websites, why not start one up? Go for a free trial and for 20% off, and who does not like 20% off. Go to squarespace.com and use the offer code Crap9. That's C-R-A-P-9. I mean, how awesome is that promo code? It's got a curse in it, Crap9, and you get 20% off squarespace.com. Check it out. Hey, everyone, welcome to Watch What Crap Is, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we love. I'm Ben Mandelger from B-SideBlog.com. You can find me @B-SideBlog on Twitter, Vine, and Instagram. And joining me, as always, is Matt Whitfield from yahoo.com. What's up, Matt? Hey, Ben. How is vacation treating you? Oh, vacation time to get away. Actually, it's been a little rough. I've only been gone for four days, and I've already incurred several bruises, cuts, a dead iPhone, and a dead camera. Things have gotten rough out here on the East Coast. So you're making memories that will last a lifetime? Making memories that will last a lifetime, except on my camera. Any summer romances that we need to know about? No summer romances, but I have to say I've been having a very waspy time. I went to Nantucket over the long weekend for my first time ever, and my goodness, there's a lot of preppy wealth over there. I mean, you watch enough of these real housewife shows that you forget what true wealth is, and then you go to someplace like Nantucket, and you realize all these people, whether it's Countess Luan, even Countess Luan, they're just nothing compared to true wasps, you know? Oh, well, I mean, it's, you know, it's not where, I mean, I am from the East Coast. I'm not a rich wasp by any means, but I do miss the waspy lifestyle, and there is something so fucking artificial about Los Angeles, and the money here is new money, and new money is just trashy. Yeah, it's so trashy, but you go to someplace like Nantucket, where they are closed off in terms of their emotions, or their willingness to allow real cameras in. My family doesn't come for money, but we do love some closed off emotions and cocktails at 5.30 every night on the fucking dot. That's fantastic. And by the way, I'm loving your tennis rackets on your wall. Is that in honor of the US Open? They are there always, but they look especially prominent today. Maybe it's the lighting scheme or the fact that I'm wearing like a neon tennis ensemble. Perhaps that's it. So anyway, people can find Matt @life-on-the-endlist on Twitter and Instagram, and also you can follow our podcasts on Facebook at facebook.com/watchwork-crap, and we have a lot of interaction, user interaction, and there's a whole community there. So if you ever want to talk bravo, and we're in between podcasts, you go there and there are literally 1,700 people wanting to talk. No, not 1,700. Almost 1,900. No, no. Almost 2,000. It's getting bigger with every passing second. No, but for real, we're actually approaching 2,000. So you should... The point is this, if you're sat and alone, you can also feel free to email us directly on our Facebook page because, you know, sometimes we're sat and alone too, and we'll respond. We are sat and alone. And you should also, and I know this is a lot of, we're giving a lot of, we're really doing a lot of self-promotion here at the top of the show, but for real, subscribe to our YouTube channel. youtube.com/thetvclick, because if you're subscribing, you could actually be watching this podcast, perhaps even live while it happens. And if you're watching, not only do you get to see our faces, you get a glimpse into my childhood bedroom as we speak, because I am broadcasting from New York in the middle. Right. I mean, if you've been talking about these tennis rackets hanging on my wall, how would they see them without watching the YouTube page? I'm like a spokesmodel on prices right. If you were watching this on YouTube, you could see the air conditioner that I grew up with over here, and you could see. Is that a window unit, Ben? Yes. Listen. How dare they? Listen, my house was pre-central air. What can I say? It's the Northeast. Houses are actually old here. And what does that framed picture in the background? It's just like a random picture of like a little town. I don't know where it came from. Was it Nantucket and is Kelly Killer Invents the moment somewhere in there? Could you imagine if it were Nantucket, if this would be a moment of great fate that I finally got to live inside the painting on my wall? That's going to be the name of your debut album, "Living Inside the Painting on My Bedroom Wall." I know. And you can see this big black mask here is where, well, it's covered with lots of stuff in my parents who moved into my room, but it's where my old CD collection is. I can see a cassette single of Nirvana, Smals like Teen Spirit in there. Well, two things to comment on. We know you like big black masses. And number two, please bring back your entire Cassingle collection so I can ravage it. I would, if I could, there's also a cassette single of GoldenEye over there. If I could. I'm embarrassed for that big black mask to be near such horrible Cassingles. No. GoldenEye by Tina Turner is a fantastic song. It is one of the worst bond themes of all time, but we'll save that for another podcast. And let's just, do you want to just dive right in? We don't have Ronnie here and, you know, I really am not in the gossipy mood. I'd rather talk about our TV shows. Yeah, you know, I miss Ronnie dearly because he's so funny, but I'm actually glad he's not here at this moment because when he's on, I get caught up in doing the impersonations in which case I start to yell and my parents are just down the hall sleeping. And that would be, this is a bad time for me to be doing Thomas Kramer at 12 o'clock in the morning. So let's just get right into it. Nobody wants me doing impersonations, so you might have to toss a few out there for our loyal listeners that love them. How about I do a quiet Thomas Kramer? Sit down and shut up. Hallelujah. Could you hear that? Could you hear that America? Oh, America. America heard you. America heard you. Your mom didn't. But America did. I know. Special podcast called quiet impersonations with Ben and Matt. Okay, so let's dive right in before we move live on this podcast. We kind of discussed who watched what this week. And let's just say that we didn't sync up on our notes properly. I watched Tamra's OC wedding. I know you didn't. I'm sure Ronnie probably did because he's a glutton for punishment, but he's not with us. So would you like a brief recap? You made us sound like he died. He's not with us. Um, yeah, please, uh, please tell me, how was the episode? Here are my questions. How was the episode? How's the stack up to the other wedding shows? Can Tamra hold her own show? Was it entertaining in the least and how long is the episode? Okay, I'm not smart enough to remember six questions in a row. So try to remember a few of those. It's an hour long, um, an hour of my life. I cannot get back. Oh, um, you wouldn't, you know this, Ben, and I think people that have been listening to our podcast, watch what crappings for, uh, quite some time know that Tamra is probably my least favorite housewife in all of the franchises and in Bravo history. Um, so needless to say, I was kind of fighting this with all of my being. Um, that said, I'm 100% in because I hate her. Okay. Is it, is a good hate watching or is it just hateable? It's, it's hateable and it's, the funny thing is it's, it's not funny actually. It's sad because this is just admitting to the world that I waste my time, but it's boring, but I hate her. So I'm watching to see the stress that she goes through, even though we know the end result that they are married now, um, it's so fake and so phony all of it that, um, I'm lured right in. Plus it co-stars surprise surprise. My second least favorite housewife of all time, Heather Dubrow co-starring. Oh, did she have a big role in it? And was she, was she offered that role by the producers or did she have to try out for it? Um, I think they had to ask, but, um, when Gretchen passed, I think that they then went to Heather to see if she could fill the, the, uh, the large gap left by Gretchen. You're, you're incorrect. Gretchen was never offered the role. They were just checking to see if she was available to be on the spinoff. The producers just contacted Gretchen's people. They didn't ask her if she was available to just be on the show. They just said, are you free Friday? Was there, do you think there was a line in the contract that said there could be no onion rings at the craft service table? Probably no onion rings and an extra side of Sarah Roo. You know, and no, I won't make a mean joke about Sarah Roo because she does not deserve to be dragged down into this mess just because Heather Dubrow sullied her good show. Well, I think that Sarah Roo gave up her onion rings and room ladsauce. Oh. Okay. See, I know you're a foodie. I'm trying to get you with that. By the way, let's get to the point. Congratulations on your huge win LA weekly TV champion. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you very much. And I really sincerely want to thank everyone who, who voted and helped get my blog of that award for what Matt's referring to is that my, my blog won best TV blog by LA weekly last week. So I'm super excited about that. The first time I've ever won anything professionally and I'm going to use it as soon as possible to get some cool dates. I'm going to just carry the plaque around. I love that you won the award and then you were like, Oh, by the way, I'm going on vacation. I'm probably not going to be updating as much. I know that was the best part that I won the award in the middle of like a two week stretch when I haven't posted any TV stuff on my blog. So sorry, but I'm going to post a big brother photo cap tonight, but that's off topic. Okay. Back to Tamara. I'm convinced that Heather muscled her way onto the show for more screen time and it's not just her. It's her and her boring husband. They're they're all in the entire episode. No. What do they do? What does Heather have to do during this episode during this show? Heather. It's great. The kids. Actually, she does make some snide comments throughout, but so out of the housewives from Orange County that are involved. Heather is actually in Tamara's wedding party as is Vicki and both make appearances in this premiere episode. Heather is in the entire thing because she ends up going to Vegas with Tamara and Eddie for bachelorette parties and all these pre-planning party kind of things. Vicki's just there to eat cake and pee on beds. It was only it was only the size of a quarter. Don't worry. I know that Vicki would rather be at on delays in Mexico than at the Palazzo in Vegas. She wants to be in Puerto Vallarta scoping out the yard sales and the flea markets for another caliente sign that she can give us a wedding gift. She's already blown everybody in Lake Havasu, so she had to move on to Puerto Vallarta. Were there any errant footballs that got thrown in Vicki's face during this first episode? Unfortunately, no. Again, Vicki was just there to eat cake. But the entire episode is about Tamara going, "Oh my God, I used to be like this normal chick who wasn't into expensive stuff, but now this wedding is becoming fancy." Okay. That's bullshit. She was always into expensive stuff. Why else do you think she lives in Orange County? She doesn't have expensive things. Ben, she's not from Orange County. She is straight up white trash. I know. But she wound up in Orange County, which means that she does like expensive things. Like don't act Tammy Sue, like you always were humble and simple. You were the one who was crying about being kicked out of your Simon Barney owned home, you know? And now you have to downsize. Okay. Like you do care about expensive things, Tammy, and that's okay. You're allowed to because you're trash, and that's what trash wants. They want money. Okay. That's what we all want actually, and by the way, I'm very trashy even though I just was talking about going to them, talking about everything. I did not fit in people, I did not fit in the point of this. So Tammy Sue is tasting a cake with Vicki and she's like, I used to be one of those girls that was fine with a $200 cake, but now I'm into $2,500 cakes. And first of all, I was like, you know, this is LA. We've been to enough fancy parties, Ben, where we know that cakes are expensive, but for the middle America watching this program going $200 for a cake, what the hell was that bitch thinking? Like a sheet cake from Costco costs like 39 bucks if that's a big one. Yeah. And by the way, don't tell me that Tammy Sue knows the difference between the $2,500 cake and the box from Entomens, okay? Aren't you suggesting that that palette is not that refined? I'm suggesting that recently I actually watched Sandra Lee and she made a wedding cake and she made it by taking bok, like sheet cakes, like sheet, like angel food cake that was and stacking it and putting frosting on it. And I think that Tammy Sue would not know the difference between Sandra Lee's homemade wedding cake versus something that came from, you know, the bosom of cat ode. I was going to say the bosom of cat ode. Yeah. Oh my goodness. That's about each drink love later on. That's for sure. I still hate cat ode with all of my being anyway, back to Tamara's OC wedding. She's complaining the entire time about, oh, don't show Eddie the receipts, the shoes that she wants to wear for the wedding are $6,000. Her creepy son Ryan makes an appearance to go to Eddie's bachelor party. They talk a lot about Tamara's previous weddings and marriages and then Heather upsets Eddie at the dinner table by talking about the Mexican strippers that were grinding on Gretchen Tamara during this past season of Real Housewives. Eddie was just upset that he wasn't able to get one of those strippers for himself. That and we know that Eddie has like a blow up doll in the shape of a bicycle seat on a road bike. We know that he likes to grind up against that when Tamara goes away to, you know, sell wines by wives with Vicki. He knows what to cozy up to. Yeah, he knows what he likes on his ass and it's not Tamara's face. It is not Tamara's face, but speaking of things Tamara does like on her face, one of the rumors is they are talking about the strippers and Heather is telling Eddie probably more than he needs to hear, but Tamara sees that she gets caught like kind of fibbing to Eddie about how much really went down with the strippers and she walks away from the dinner table in Vegas and Eddie goes up and confronts her and he's like, well Tamara, every time we talk about this, the story comes out a little bit differently. Was his dick on your face? Do you know like was he wearing a cock ring or not? It's just like they're just trash full on trash and at the very least as long as you're going to be trash, at least trying to make yourself look better. So shave that beard Eddie and it's just it's just disgusting at this point. Yeah, he's gross and sad and you know, I don't know, the entire episode is stupid and then he goes and has his first ever bachelor party and he's with all of his guy friends and they're all wearing, you know what I'm talking about, that shirt that's one size too big, that's a button down shirt that may have, you know, like a floor to Lee on the back or some like tribal tattoo signs across the chest and they all wear them one size too big untucked with like dorky dark denim and like loafers and it's just such like the OC straight male look and I hate it. It's awful. I feel like it's a it's derived somehow from both UFC and Harley Davidson culture in the worst possible ways. It's like, yeah, because I'm obsessed with UFC and MMA, so watch watch your tongue. You can be obsessed with it, but there's a difference between being obsessed with UFC and MMA and taking part of UFC culture. There's a huge difference. UFC culture is like at Hardy and Affliction. I mean, you can't. Right. No, no, no, I definitely think that it I was about to say at Hardy and Affliction myself. So yes, that is the that is the style Eddie's wearing a hideous blazer. They all go out and then I think this was set up as a spy, but Heather's husband is there with his cell phone and he's snapping photos of strippers climbing all over Eddie and then Tamara freaks out because Heather's husband texts a photo back while the girls are out and Tamara's concerned. Oh, it looks like, you know, that strippers boob is an Eddie's mouth and you know, it's just it's a manufactured manufactured, it's manufactured. It's far from classy. It's not even interesting. I think I just again, I think I watched the show because I hate Tamara and I hate Heather so much that I want to see bad things happen to bad people, but at the end of the day, because it's manufactured, I really just walk away going, God, I just wasted 60 minutes of my life. Exactly. And we all know that the best shuster is Lori wearing these days and I don't know why she wasn't involved with this. Don't talk about Lori either. I love that girl, but she's a shuster. She starts it up. She stirs it up. I guess the question is now I probably haven't sold you Ben on watching this, but no, no, you guys that are listening to the podcast are watching the video cast, please take two Facebook and let us know your thoughts on Tamara's OC wedding. I know that a few of you have already left notes when you watch the premiere and I'm really on the fence right now. Normally I love this shit and I try to rope Ben and Ronnie into it. I'm not sure still if Ronnie has seen the premiere or not, but I really don't know that I want to stick with this show, especially with so many other things coming up on Bravo and it's the new fall TV season like I really don't know if Tamara's going to stick around especially with Nini coming. Listen, Bravo is selling their brand. They're showing a total lack of creativity by doing all these wedding shows and people just don't care. And the thing is they don't have enough inherent drama or involved. It's just, Bravo's got to stop. Bravo's got to find a new gig for these spin offs. The wedding thing we see, we say week after week after week, no one cares about Bravo weddings. Absolutely no one cares. People turn to Bravo to see women fighting with each other and being cat and being bitches. Not 45 year old male lives come true. Right. We need 40 plus women fighting with each other preferably at dinner parties because again, as we mentioned last week, the very, very sad news, but each drink love and princesses and a few of these other shows that are younger skewing in theory, they're not delivering the ratings. People want Vicki Tamra and the rest of the housewives, a normal size cast going at it. We don't need these one off spin offs people. It's not working. Absolutely not. So speaking of middle age women going at it, should we move on to Miami? We will in one second, I know you told me to shut my mouth before we started the podcast so we don't go too long, but we didn't do gossip at the top of the, at the top of the episode. We mentioned that this past week, speaking of things not working, Rachel Zoe is definitely not coming back for another season. We still can't tell if Bravo canceled it or if she decided not to come back. Hello, she's a celebrity, of course, Bravo canceled it because why would she not want to be on TV? Yeah, I think this was, this was life canceling a Rachel Zoe project. I used to enjoy the show in a weird way because you could just make fun of it so easily. But then, honestly, once Brad left, the show just didn't have any, I don't know, didn't have any oomph anymore. It became about Roger and Rachel Moore and Roger, she just winds and is annoying and they actually have a very annoying relationship and they're sort of stupid and they're not stupid. Obviously, she's smarter than she looks, but their relationship is stupid. She's kind of a whiny lady and I'm surprised you stayed through the Brad years when Taylor left. I was kind of done at that point. So anyway, Zoe is gone. Let's go to Miami. Okay. Oh, one other little piece of gossip real quickly. Apparently, Lisa and Lisa Vanderpump and Brandy Glanville are no longer talking if you want to hear all this. Yeah. That gossip was posted on our page. This is the rumor. Rumor is that there was a big fight. Yolanda called out Lisa saying that Lisa is a shister and then Brandy was like, "Yeah, you kind of are like, you wanted me to bring these tabloids on the vacation." And Lisa's like, "No, I didn't." And then they fought and go to our Facebook page, facebook.com/watchmorecrapins. You can find the article there and read it to your heart's content in a much more informed way. But the point is this, we love Brandy, but it'll be hard to dethrone Lisa. If you get on the wrong side, Lisa, even you, Brandy, will probably wind up on our shit list. I'm going to ask you this, Ben, because I know that you were a die-hard Lisa fan, but can anything bring Lisa down in your eyes, or is she just untouchable to you? The only thing that could bring Lisa down would be something that comes from Vanderpump Rules, i.e. keeping all those idiots employed. That makes me question her judgment. That's for sure. The fact that she spends Stasi, that brings Lisa down. Okay. So, I know we're not supposed to talk about gossip because we're supposed to dive on to Miami here, but then I'm also hearing a lot of rumors, and I think this was also posted on the Facebook page about the actual cast for Vanderpump Rules Season 2. Who's in, who's out, obviously Jackson's stossing need to be there, but rumor has it that our horsey pony girls are not in. I know. I heard that too. I heard that horse face isn't there, but then horse face number one, horse face one tweeted that you'll see plenty of me, which I think she was thinking about this whole New Jersey episode when they were doing some therapy with the Equine creature. But I don't know. I don't know. Here's the thing. If there's any cast I could care less about, who's going to be there and who's not going to be there, it's probably this one. It's probably the band of girls. Ben, what will we do without the Queen of Azusa? Oh my gosh, Sheena, Sheena has to be there because we do need Azusa to be represented at all times. The horse, actually, I would like the horse faces to be there because they're just sort of like awful. They did nothing. They did nothing. They did nothing, but act, they were just horse faces and they talked about how pretty they were and how they were models, but they were just horse faces and then they had their stupid boyfriends too. I guess we do. I guess I do care on some level. I want a few more hot guys though. Yeah, we need more hot guys that are willing to rip off their cable knit sweaters in the middle of a fight because people should be wearing cable knit sweaters in the desert of Southern California in July when they film the show. Makes total sense. Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay, so let's move on to Miami. This was once again another eventful episode. Miami for the second season in a row seems to be bringing it a lot more than some of these other franchises. Well, we think the show was bringing it, but viewers are not paying attention, Ben. This show is only averaging like 1.3 million viewers, whereas the other housewives franchises are pulling in more than double. What gives? Why? Are people not on board with Miami because the first season was a shortened season and they didn't really give it a proper chance because I didn't really give season one a proper chance, but with season two, fricking addicted. No, season two was phenomenal. It was one of the best household seasons of all time, but you know, you know, we are intrepid souls and we like to explore things and give things chances and watch and stuff like that. But you know, people have very busy and full DVRs. And if you do not like if you do not come strong out of the gate, that is really a very difficult thing. I mean, that's hard. It's hard to get people to jump on board later on. Right. That happens on network TV all the time too. I mean, the first season is typically the highest rated desperate housewives, then it drops 2 million viewers, then it drops two, then it drops four and season four, and then before you know it, it has less than half the people that initially started off at the show. So the good news is season two of Miami grew out of season one. But now it's kind of plateaued. I just want people that are listening to this podcast right now or watching this video cast to realize you are missing out if you are not watching the Real Housewives of Miami. It is so much fun. It's like phenomenal compared to the Real Housewives of New Jersey, which is the second highest rated franchise behind Atlanta. And Jersey could not be a more boring waste of time for all of us. Yeah. The thing is that I think what happens is people have a little bit of housewives fatigue. There are so many iterations that when it gets to Miami, they think, you know, I didn't really like that first season. I'm going to take a break from this one. I need to come up for air, you know? That's what having a week season did for people have made them say, this is one franchise I can skip. I need to open up some time in my life, which is too bad because honestly, not only is it highly entertaining and they have a huge stable of characters, we're all very colorful, it looks great. I mean, it is actually a pleasure just to look at the colors are bright. It feels like you're in Florida. You know? It's just exciting. Right. No, I mean, right. It's pretty to look at. And then especially when it's contrasting and get something like the Real Housewives of New Jersey, where everything is that they all live in that same brown house that exists also in Orange County, which again, as I keep saying, is a version of a bad Vegas casino. It's all dark woods and like limestone, but the great thing is in Miami, it is pretty to watch. I don't care that it's overproduced. I don't care that it looks like an episode of the Hills and that's completely fake. It's fucking pretty. And on top of that, all the leaves have trees down there. Unlike New Jersey, we're all here looking at is dead trees, you know, crappy strip malls in the middle of Franklin Lakes, bats of egg salad and in the back room of cafes. That's what New Jersey is. That's what you're looking at. In Miami, you see like turquoise waters, you see cruise liners, you see palm trees, you see luxury cars and brick driveways. It's fun. And you see you see Romaine lettuce in his skivvies. Romaine lettuce. Wait, did I miss Romaine lettuce in his skivvies because it was a part where I dozed off, not because the show, but only because I was watching it in very late in the day and I was tired. Are you drinking again? I wish. I wish her drinking. Is there some men of Shevitz up on that dresser behind you? Actually, there are some empty bottles of Sky vodka that I procured in my youth. And I was like, ooh, look at these big blue bottles. I'm going to save them forever as if like they were not mass produced. Right. And are you going to bring them home? You're going to carry on and then fill them with some speech. Are you not going to fill them with some glass orbs and some seashells and then make a centerpiece? I was going to say, what I actually should do is just shatter them and then like make a little thing like a like a little crafty thing, like a little mosaic or a blue glass and I can put on my pocket table and it'll look very Miami, actually, but with the taste level in New Jersey. Okay. Where are we starting in Miami because you say, I'll say one thing and then you can get into what actually happens. Okay. Mary Saul, this season, you know, I'm not necessarily Team Mary Saul by any means because I don't like anybody who goes up against our girl, Leah Black. Right. But it bums me that Mary Saul has been downgraded to friend of the housewives when she's actually getting more screen time so far this season than she ever did last season. I know. Well, this is like the first season where Mary Saul actually has things to say and has an opinion about things. And now she's only a friend, but you know, to be fair, she's just like, she's just like a wet rag. She doesn't know. She's like a complainer. You know, I mean, she's not fun. You sort of get, I don't know, she's like sort of snively. She's like that friend who, I don't know, talks shit about you in the corner and I don't know, but not even in like a funny gossipy way. She sort of sucks now. I don't know. She doesn't do anything. So she's like us, but not fun. You know, it is exactly. I kind of feel like she's jumped on the anti-Leah bandwagon, although she was kind of like the original anti-Leah person, but she's not, I don't know, she doesn't bring anything interesting to the conversation. All she does is make stupid jokes about carrier pigeons. Well, yeah, I mean, the reason that she was ever invited to be. So should that be Bravo's next show? Carrier pigeons. Real house has real pigeons of the orange, you know, it's like, you know, it's like three in the morning or something like my brain isn't the mere fact that I was able to utter the phrase carrier pigeon is it is good news, but people, my brain is showing up quickly. Okay, let me get you back on track. Let's start with, let's start with Romaine lettuce and Joanna looking at houses. So this is just like a stupid storyline. This is, you know, this is, this is a big nothing. They pick out a house that's like dumping the front, but has a great view in the back. So it's like the mullet of houses and they're going to move into it. Who cares? Who cares? If they were on house hunters, I would care. But on real housewives of Miami, I don't care. Okay. Well, more importantly, Joanna saw a sex therapist on this episode, which, you know, anybody that sees a sex therapist on reality TV and puts their life on display in that way is a real class act. Oh, yeah. I agree. And again, this whole storyline seems fake to me and I don't believe for one second that they barely have sex. I think Romaine lettuce is tapping that day and night. And I think if he's not, then she's tapping that all day and night because they're both very attractive and if they are not having sex all the time, it's a crime against humanity. Um, really, do you, are you attracted to his hairplugs? If those are, you know, yeah, sure, I'll, I'll let him have those hairplugs because you know what? He's got a good body, a good smile and a French accent. Let him have some hairplugs. Okay. No, I'm down. I would go for him over any of the, the Joe, the Joe Gorga factor that you and Ronny seem to still love. I don't understand that. I mean, Joe Gorga, I do think Joe Gorga sexy, but I will say his hairplugs are poorly executed. They are. And by hairplugs, you mean magic marker slash too polished. Sharpie, he's, he's, he's got an off brand Sharpie going and it's just not working. He's got, he's got a Sharpie found at the 99 cent store. This Sharpie, he actually found behind the receptionist desk at that strip mall plastic surgeon that Daniel Stobb went to to get her square boobs, which is the place everybody should go to find some extra Sharpies if they're running on cash. He's a Sharpie, that's, that's what we know about Joe Gorga. That's how we got his millions of sold Sharpies on the black market. Um, okay. So what do you think about Joanna going to a sex therapist though? I mean, is that just, do you think it's completely fabricated because she has nothing else to talk about and they just need some lead up, they need lead up content for their wedding, which is going to take place later on this season and they need some fodder there? Yeah. I mean, she's got nothing going on, especially since she led, apparently is not drinking that much this season. So since she doesn't, if she doesn't drink, she's not crazy and she's not crazy. What else is there to do? Then talk about their, their relationship, but no one cares. No one cares. Dear Bravo. Dear Bravo, if Real Housewives of Miami comes back for fourth season, part of Joanna's contract must be Girl Gets Drunk. Yeah. Have that be her arc. Have her, you have a struggle with alcoholism, but not too much of a struggle that we, that it would seem poor if she continued to drink. We wanted a drink the entire time. Right. I mean, not a struggle like Carrie from, you know, the amazing show Mary to Medicine because she's had lots of struggles. Yeah. No. Yeah. I've had a 20 year old struggle with alcoholism, which is not funny at all. It's not funny to make fun of that. I think it's funny. Alcoholism is hilarious. I think, I, I, if she, if they do broach the alcohol topic, I just don't want it to be like the OC where you had Kirsten, who is, who is always reaching for a glass of wine for like two seasons, and then they finally decided to make a story about it and send her to rehab and then make her, then she stopped reaching for the wine and she became less fun. Yeah. So the moral of the story is never stop reaching for wine. Yes. Never. Embrace your alcoholism. Embrace your alcoholism. Um, okay. So wait, Joanna, though, isn't the only lady of Miami that's not getting any action down south, um, the other women, I think Lisa and Adriana were actually also talking about the fact that they're not getting any sex either. What is going on in Miami? I don't know. Well, I can understand, uh, Lisa not getting any sex because she basically looks like silly putty and I don't know what sort of guy wants to nail a silly putty. Her husband is way more hideous. They, they're both a little grotesque. There's like, it's, it definitely looks like they look like two dental dams, basically just the stretched out latex with tongue and teeth coming out. Um, this would be the segment in the show, which should be sponsored by like, uh, you know, one of those, uh, like Zales where Matt clutches his pearls brought to you by Zales. Brought to you by Zales. Um, you know, by the way, we do have to pause, uh, well, on the audio version, it's going to pause on the video version. It's not going to pause, but we're going to pause and on the audio version, we're going to insert, um, some very fun words about square space right here. This episode is brought to you by Squarespace, the all-in-one platform that makes it fast and easy to create your own professional website or online portfolio. For a free trial and 20% off, go to squarespace.com and use offer code CRAP9. Um, it's a really useful website with a lot of cool templates. You can design your own thing. 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Sort of like the famous carrier pigeon of Mary Soul Patton's brain, but yeah, she doesn't do much. She does nothing. She plays both sides, but she's not really even starting to pop, she's just there. Well she confronts in a weird way, not really confronts in a harsh way, but she talks to Adriana about this whole story again about the wedding yada yada, which we can't seem to get rid of, and then Bravo does a really cool thing by showing how much of a fraud Adriana is by putting together a nice little package where we see how this story keeps changing on a constant basis, depending upon who she's speaking to. Exactly, and that again is proof that Bravo is more on the side of Leah, because there are some times, again in this episode where it looks like they're almost painting Leah as the bad one, but the fact that they keep on doing these montages, the montages are the producer's way of being like, this is what we think about the situation, and we're going to show you the footage to show how fucked up this is. So I think that Leah continues to look good on this on this show. I think, I know, again we said this every week, she was concerned that she'd be a little look like Jill Zaren or something like that. I think she looks fine, and when the women carp about her being fake, about her smiling at them and kissing them on the cheek to say hello at a function and saying she's so fake, she's so fake, I'll have to say this, if she said nothing, you know what those women would be saying, they'd be like, I can't believe her, she's not even talking to us, is that immature or what, you know, you can't win with women like that? Right, it's kind of like you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't, so in that case I'm kind of like, okay, well then give her a fake kiss on the cheek as opposed to being called straight up bitch for not even acknowledging her presence. Yeah, exactly. Which is exactly what Anna did to Leah, when Anna arrives at Alexia's party, Isis Leah out and purposely says hello to Joanna solidifying the fact that Anna is a. See you next Tuesday. Ding, ding, ding, Ben, you get a prize. I didn't want to say the C word just yet, but I thought I'd spell it out. Um, you know, she is, she Anna, Anna has had such a precipitous fall, she was like totally fine last season, and then all of a sudden she just sucks, she just sucks, she walks into the party and she sucks. And I think, you know, you know, when Anna and Alexia and Marisol and Adriana get together, and they talk about how fake Leah is and all that stuff, it, it, it comes off like a bunch of cliquey middle school girls, you know, and Leah. Dare I say it makes me miss Dr. Karen Sierra DDS just a little bit. I miss Dr. Karen Sierra, she was a great villain, she was a great villain. I don't know that she was a villain, I thought that she came across as more of a punching bag last season, but I'd rather these ladies punch her than punch Leah. Well, she started off as a villain and then turned into a punching bag, and then she's sort of like a punching bag villain, which is sort of a fun combination because you sort of go back and forth between feeling bad for them and hating them. Um, but more, we lean more towards the hate side because, you know, watch what Crapin's podcast would be fun if we didn't hate people. I know it's now another time for Ben's quiet impersonations, but you know what, but you love some vanilla ice cream. I love vanilla ice cream. No, I don't have to get up close to my, my Macintosh's internal microphone in order to be impersonation. So those who are watching got a real faithful of quiet impersonation. Are you not on a word processor at your parents house? I used to have a word processor when I was in high school. Shockingly, I'm not on the old Apple TGS, but we can make, I don't know, maybe if I clear off the Bank Street press from it and the print shop, I might be able to clear up some room to do a podcast on the and maybe maybe some Sims and some roller coaster tycoon. You could free up some space. Let me tell you something. The 2GS is working a whole hell of a lot better than my iPhone right now, my iPhone, which took a plunge in the Atlantic Ocean. Whoops. Did, um, did somebody throw you in the ocean or did you just dive in with your, with your electronics on you? I was on a little sailboat that capsized. Did everybody survive? Everyone survived. Everyone survived, but my phone and my camera did not, and my, one of my flip flops floated off into the, into somewhere as did my sunglasses. So it's tough. That's a rough one. I'm sorry. It was rough. It was quite the experience. And we will be talking about that probably on banter with Ben and Lisa this week. That was a little tie-in. Um, no. Okay, let's, let's get to Alexia's party. This is the big, like venue party and party. Yeah. And I don't know. I thought it was kind of lame. I mean, we hardly saw the party itself. I mean, so all the housewives were there. And then Frederick, and wait, wait, I don't think Lisa was there. Lisa was not, Lisa was in a bubble bath trying to get pregnant, which of course was never going to happen. So she might have gone to party. Right. Doesn't she also realize like, first of all, when your vagina is made of silly putty, strike one, when your husband's penis is made of silly putty, strike two. And number three, then when you try to have sex in a scalding hot bathtub, really not a good place for the little spheromies to survive. Listen, Lisa's got to do what I just did for my iPhone, which is, she's got to soak herself into some distilled water to make sure all the salt water is out and all the corrosion stops. And then she's got to just lie in a pile of dry, of dried rice to pull the moisture out, and then she'll be good to go. Right. And then it'll be perfect. Then she'll, once she's all dried out, then there'll be some good friction to make some babies. Yeah. Then she can get the heat on, you know? That's what we are. We are discussing. She just has to treat herself like an iPhone that fell into the Atlantic. She just needs to treat herself, treat yourself, redder, and Aziz Ansari style, by maybe having a ladies night at home with some, with some P.F. Chang's takeout, extra, extra on the dry brown rice. You know what? Not even the takeout. She should just go to the P.F. Chang's frozen stuff within our supermarket and just, just lather it all down there, lather it all down there. Next to the, is it next to the Kathy Waukeli cannoli kits that are clearly not in any frozen good section of freezer setting? It's in the fusion section of the P.F. Chang cannoli, which is a cannoli that's filled with sesame chicken. And it's like that down there and it's bad that that's called an egg roll. Oh, you're actually kind of right. And by the way, I am not above a cannoli filled with sesame chicken. 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I can't I can't get there. We will get there. Okay back to the venue party. They had been pumping this this fight between Frederick and Romaine lettuce, you know, all season long and by all season long. I mean the first five episodes. So we finally saw that happen, but it really wasn't like that big of a fight, but they did end up dragging their females into it, which still there is obviously carryover from last season where Adriana and Joanna got into a verbal and physical altercation. Well, the big thing that they kept on promoting all year all season was this moment when Frederick points at Romaine lettuce and Romaine lettuce takes his hand and just pushes it out of the way and you're like, Oh shit. In real life when that happens, it's so insignificant that there's actually a voiceover that's happening over it. Like it's not even a thing. They don't even have a musical stinger to emphasize that this happened. It just just sort of happens. See, I actually I beg to differ. If you were to put your hand in my face or my chest when we were like starting to get heated and I smacked your hand away, I would think immediately like I'm going for the jugular. You would think but remember these are like two French men fighting. And so as a result, it was just basically like a whiny, snively little altercation that really, you know, it was just some hoppy words about a car wash and that's it. Zootalor. In French, which I actually enjoyed. Actually oddly enough, I really enjoy hearing Adriana speaking different languages. She has very few talents, but that is one of them. She speaks five languages. And the language of love. And the language of love and deception. Okay, so what do you think about how this is going down? I don't know. I mean, Alexia then also kind of started to throw some shade lea's way too, I felt. Yeah. So whereas Lisa seems to be playing both sides in the supportive way, Alexia seems to be playing both sides in the shady way. Because this week she says she was she accused lea of being like insincere or inauthentic, whatever or fake, which is like, Alexia, you're the host of this party. Who the hell cares? Don't and don't do that. Why would you do that? But then I want to love Alexia, but she keeps pulling this shit where I'm like, I can't love her if she's going to be acting a fool. Yeah, like do it to Karen Sierra. Don't do it to lea. But then next week she yells at all the women, presumably because she probably wants to go to lea's function. And the woman like, well, I'm not going to go to that. And Lexi's probably like, well, it's for charity. And like, who cares, but he goes aside and support this charity. And also, you know what? You know what else they should support? This is the only party in all the real housewives shows, franchises, whatever. This is the only legit party that ever gets thrown. And this is not me blowing air up Lea's ass, because again, we we know and like Lea, it's like the only party that has like real celebrities that show up. She has like, Flo Rida, you know, and say what you will about Flo Rida, but he's like a huge. He's a bazillion air and he's a huge international star. So there's no denying. She has a little Wayne at her party is like, this is not, this is not, you know, a Caroline Manzo, you know, party at the Brown Stone where Bernie Klarek shows up, okay, or Karak or whatever his name is, you know, this is not a David Foster party, although David Foster is legit huge, but this is not one where like the backup trumpeter like shows up. This is like, where Chris Bote, jazz fusion artist Chris Bote shows up. Yeah, and that's not to take away from David Foster. He is huge. But I'm just saying, the parties that we've seen on all these shows, I mean, this is like, when you're dealing with like these little Wayne, whatever, this is, these are like cool hip celebrities, you know, and they're showing up at Leah's functions. Okay, so let's just remember who where on the totem pole these people are. Okay. Okay, no, I'm not going to fight you on that. I'm not going to go as far as saying Lil Wayne is cool, but at least he's well known and he's rich. And he's current, like he has pop culture cache, you know, unlike Chris Bote or any of those like really sad like ex-American idols that Taylor used to parade around after her husband hung himself remember, she'd be like, here's my pal Ace Young. He came to the seventh place on the ninth season of American Idol. Yeah, at least Lil Wayne is not Faye Resnick, a former like ancillary character from the O.J. Simpson circus. I like the way you phrased that an ancillary character from the O.J. Simpson circus. That's going to be my, that's going to be my sophomore album. You know what, I wish I were an ancillary character from the O.J. Simpson circus. Don't get me wrong. I am very jealous of Faye Resnick. So anyway, I might have had a crush on Kato Kalan, not gonna lie. I never had one for Kato Kalan, but I'm sure I'm sure if you poke around that trial, there's someone I would have had a crush on. Marcia Clark. Marcia Clark, she knew how to wear a perm. She knew how to wear a facial mole like nobody's business. She knew something about a blue lady suit. She knew how to rock some extra shoulder pads. Yeah, she certainly did. Two pair, two pair. Yeah. All right, do we have anything else to say about Miami? No, but I feel like we're ending kind of on a sour note because we were saying that this is such an amazing housewise franchise. I feel like, and it is, I just feel like this episode really didn't take us anywhere new, but I do know that we still have plenty of fireworks ahead of us, especially with two weddings on the horizon. And, you know, there's no doubt in my mind that Joanna is going to hit the bottle at some point. I mean, this season can't happen without an appearance by her crazy sister, Marta, and some Polish vodka. Oh yeah, there will definitely be some issues, especially now that Marta and Romaine let us are on the skids again, as if anyone cares. The episode, I did enjoy it. I did enjoy it, and it's still good. What do you want to move on to next? You drink love or New Jersey? Let's talk Jersey for a few minutes. It was again super boring, you guys, I cannot believe that we are still... Oh, well look. I actually like the episode. I will say this. I like anybody or any episode or anything for that matter that involves a horse whisperer, so that was fun because this dude was regulating people left and right and shutting people up like Richie, and it was just that. I mean, that was fun for me, but call me crazy. I feel like this episode feels like it has been 1700 episodes long. I know. Well, I actually really enjoyed the episode. I enjoyed watching this horse therapy because there was this, I guess there was this element of suspense, which was, could they lift up a horse off, which sounds like a very small level of bar of suspense, but I found it to be oddly involving, and I did think it was interesting that Teresa and what's her face were the only two idiots that couldn't pick up the stupid horse off. And I loved, like you said, I love this guy, just sort of like shut them all up. He was this like tall, commanding, trace Atkins type with a horse. Meats Kenny Rogers roasters. Yes, Meats Kenny Rogers roasters and a little dog, the bounty hunter, and I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the questions that he asked and seeing if they were going to break down. I'm really highlighted how dumb and vapid they all are. But then let me ask you this. Do you think that he was really asking that many questions, or was he more making like blanket statements? I feel like we had this just a few weeks ago on the Real Housewives of New Jersey when they were at that retreat. And then Dr. V from that other horrible Bravo show was kind of brought in and clearly she was, you know, on the plane reading the dossier's, you know, just learning like blankety type of things about these relationships and these fucked up people. And I feel like we kind of got that again. And it was like, that was just three weeks ago, Bravo, you're really not trying to like, you know, do anything new for us fans. Yeah, I mean, I think last season, we all enjoyed watching Joe and Teresa go into therapy. And so Bravo was like, yeah, let's just like make a whole lot of episodes where this happens. And I actually think this season, the therapy episodes have been the most interesting because the non-therapy episodes have just been them having, you know, throwing water bottles at a gym or like confronting weird salon owners at some birthday parties. So if there hasn't been much. So the therapy stuff is at least interesting to me. But I agree with what you said, which is that it kind of feels like, all right, let's move on to something else. And then when I saw coming up next week, they're still at this resort doing more therapy. I'm like, how much like we saw them already banging the drums, the Navajo drums, like, what else is there? Now they've got to do a high ropes course. I'm sick of it. They probably have to do a high ropes course. We already saw them do trust falls. So I'm just trying to think of like every corporate retreat I've ever been on. And you know what? They've crossed all the teas and dotted all the fucking eyes. You know, what, you know, people who run these corporate retreats should be pissed at Bravo because Bravo was undoing all their work. That Bravo is proving that these corporate retreats do nothing because these people also hate each other. I actually think that Bravo should greenlight a new show called Sexy Corporate Retreats. And it could be like a cast just like below deck, but setting up sexy corporate retreats. Well, that's actually a brilliant idea. It's because it's about team building with a team that's totally dysfunctional. The team who is trying to set up the team building for the corporate people are the dysfunctional ones, but they're all sexy and sleeping together and maybe fighting a little bit along the way and maybe drinking a little too much and falling off a boat. I mean, falling off of like a ropes course. Without her harness properly attached with a carabiner. What would it be called? High tension? No, that's already that's that's already a French horror film called Otecheon. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I actually remember that one. It could be called On the Ropes. I like it. Which is like Ryan movie, but that's okay. Or below deck two and really have nothing to do with nautical themes above ropes above ropes above ground. I think we both on the ropes or on the ropes and below deck should really just be paired together. That would be the ultimate TV block. I'm not going to lie. By the way, if Bravo makes a reality show about about a team building team that is in itself dysfunctional, we get credit. This is we're trademarking it. We're doing a common law copyright right here. What's the date and time? The date is on the Pacific time. It is 10 21 on it is 10 21. It is 10 21 on Tuesday, September 3rd. Here's my phone proving it. Ben is on the east coast. So the time is a little bit different. Oops, my phone died. There we go. 10 21 Bravo. This belongs to us. Not use sexy corporate retreats. Sexy corporate retreats. Speaking of sexy corporate retreats, this one. Wait, I thought of a new title. What? Trick or retreat? Interesting. I like where you're going. I like where you're going for it. Sounds like it's a little bit about prostitutes. And it will be hosted by Danielle Stobb as the mentor. Danielle Stobb will play the Tim Gunn. It sounds like they're timid prostitutes. Trick or retreat. Hey, looking for a good time. Never mind. Never mind. Never mind. I'm actually wearing granny panties. You don't want any part of this. Please, no, no, no more. So what else happened? So they all talked to the horse. The horse did not kick anyone, which is bullshit. Cathy thought this was good. Wait, do you think that it was a stuffed horse, or was it a live being? I think it was Andy Cohen, and he was in there with Lance Bass. But he couldn't be in there with Lance Bass, because Lance Bass just got engaged to some model, dude. You know, and I have to say, by the way, good for Lance Bass, because I have to say this. He's looking better than ever. He's doing a good job with himself. I applaud Lance Bass. You know, after that whole space exploration thing came crashing down, and that was why he was in the news at that point. I never thought we were going to hear from this dude again. But good for him. Good for him. He snaked himself a hot piece too. He's done nicely. Of course he has. Well, you know, when you're really, when you have any mild amount of fame and you're gay, you can immediately advance the top of class and get like whoever you want, especially if you're someone like Lance Bass, or you get the pick up the litter. So of course he's got a hot, hot one. But I'm happy that he, you know, he dresses well, he looks good. Because I remember in his instinct days, he looked awkward, he looked strange, he looked well. I mean, I thought, right, I think that he was in the closet, and he really didn't know how to, you know, embrace his frosted tips properly like he does now. The good news is he didn't embarrass himself on the VMAs. And Lance Bass, if you're listening right now, or if any of you are involved with that Lance Bass XM series radio show that he hosts, they need to invite us on there, Ben. Yeah, absolutely. And this was actually, I wasn't even saying any of this as a ploy to curry his favor. I was just sincerely giving props to a fellow gay. No, we all were. We all were. And goddamn, his husband to be as fine. Fine, fine, fine. So anyway, yeah. So there was a lot of therapy. Rosie cried, Kathy cried, Kathy felt unloved. And they should have felt unloved because did you see that outfit? I mean, these people, I'm going to say this, you think the Orange County housewives can't dress with their bedazzled Moo Moo tops? These women in Jersey dress like some messy ass heifers. They always look like they just skin Chewbacca, you know, and they made Chewbacca into like a, into the vest of some sort. You know what? These are actually, these are actually their day-to-day clothes. But I always am thinking like, Oh, that came out of a costume box that had to have come out of a costume box. And that caution box is called New Jersey. And that will be my third album, Costing Box. Caution box named Jersey. So, you know, the thing is with Kathy, you know, I love Kathy. I love Kathy. We all love Kathy, but we don't like Richie. I actually like Richie too, but what I am getting a little sick of with Kathy is she feels disrespected. She feels like no one pays attention to her. And then someone like Rosie stands up and says, Hey, you know what? People like, you know, be, be, you know, give, give Kathy her due. And then Kathy tells us, you know, you know, I like that Rosie's doing that. But you know what? I could, you know, I can say it for myself. I'm like, well, then Kathy, why didn't you say it for yourself? Okay. Either either feel, feel snubbed and then embrace someone helping you or don't feel feel snubbed is do it for yourself, but you can't do, you can't, I don't know. Here's the problem. We love her because she's more normal than these other psychopaths and females. And the problem is her personality is not going to allow her to pull on somebody's hair and slap them across the face and spit on them and flip a table over like that's just not Kathy. But guess what? If Kathy is going to still be part of this show, she needs to do something. I know. And you know what? When her sister Rosie, who is not a real cast member, is upstaging her on a weekly slash seasonally basis, seasonal basis, there is a problem. Kathy is not doing enough to warrant a spot on this show as a full-time cast member, despite the fact that we love her. Do you think Bravo will ever have a lesbian housewife and not like a lipstick lesbian type, but like a full like like a Rosie lesbian? Well, weren't they kind of like knocking down that door with OC a few years ago when they brought on that Latino of like personal trainer? Yeah, but she was, I mean, she was a full-on lesbian too, but she was more of like a hot lesbian. I'm talking about like a full-on like like a bull dyke lesbian who's just like fat, sort of looks like a man, and is real rough around the edges. You just completely described Rosie. Yeah. And you know what? Like as I described, I was like, Bravo will never do that because that's not what Bravo is all about, like glitz and glamour and shiny dresses. And that's not Rosie. Right. I mean, they also need to appeal to the gay male audience. And I don't want to watch that. Yeah, Rosie is like the rural network, or versus TV. That's what Rosie is. You know what? This is the thing. We love Rosie. We love her storyline. We're really happy for her. But you know, I don't really want, I don't need to know anything else about Rosie until she's getting laid because she has gone six years without getting laid. And that's just sad. I think if anyone deserves a spin-off, it should be Rosie. I should be Rosie's quest to get a good haircut. And maybe I find a different, well, and I'm like, can she get a different hat? Yeah, really. But I love Rosie. I actually, even though we're making fun of her hair, she's great. Here's another idea. Dear Bravo, bring back one of the greatest shows in the history of your network called Sheer Genius and have Tabitha hosted because she was, she came in fourth place on season one, and then have it kind of be like an all-stars where the people getting their hair cut are Bravo stars with bad haircuts like Rosie. Yeah. Or like season one, where they went and had to style the hair of all the Real Housewives of Orange County. Right. Or Lynn could come back from season three of Real Housewives of Orange County, wearing that crazy creepy wig that makes her look like a serial killer. You mean Quinn. Quinn. I'd about to say Lynn. I mean, but Lynn could show up too. I would have no problem with that. I would never let Lynn Curtin near me with a pair of scissors. I was suggesting that that Lynn could be a subject, not a, oh my god, I would love that. Real Housewives Beauty School send the Real Housewives to Beauty School and then make them cut hair and see what happens. And force them to work with Gretchen Christine Butte products that are now no longer available because she stole them and put her name on a label and now the company is suing her. And their mentor could be Jonathan and Tim. Yes. Okay. So what happened on Jersey? They scratched the horse. They scratched some horse butt and then Jacqueline actually had like a breakdown and Teresa got up and dare I say this, I know I sound like a fucking idiot. I felt like the embrace that the two of them shared and the hug that Teresa gave Jacqueline showed me signs of rekindling their friendship. And it reminded me of the good moments when they were actually buddies back in the day. No, for me, that's I was. No, no, for me, sorry to be totally dismissive. I'm just like someone totally guarded walking up to a horse. But for me, to me, it highlighted how how screwed up all these people are. There's such blockheads that that the simple act of hugging someone who was crying, which is a very basic courtesy is considered a groundbreaking move for Joe Judas, for instance, to say, yeah, I don't want to go to jail. I don't want to do that. That's not what I want to do. Everyone's like, wow, what a breakthrough. What a breakthrough. Like, is that really a breakthrough for him to sort of mumble his way through a pretty logical emotion. Ben, it is a breakthrough. It is a breakthrough for juicy Joe to say more than three words and or calling his wife the C word. So anything else that we get on top of that is a breakthrough. That's true. Anytime that he's in a situation that involves a horse or bone dancing where he also doesn't drop the F word as in the gay F word, that's also a breakthrough. Right. Or when he is not practicing his Steven Segal karate moves on a punching bag in his garage, it is a breakthrough. When he is not falling on his face and knocking out his tooth on the dining room floor, it is a breakthrough. When he is not standing around with booze sweats and red wine sweat coming down his forehead, that is a breakthrough. When he is not lying about the fact that he flipped a car over on the side of the road because he didn't have a DUI and he needed to race home and take five shots of alcohol before calling the police, then that is a breakthrough. When he is speaking about his feelings and not walking into a DMV with his brother's license and trying to pass it off as his own because his original license was suspended because he crashed a car and then took five shots afterwards to erase the memory of it. That is a breakthrough. When he is not ignoring that fourth daughter of his that I don't even know her name because she really is not his daughter, that is a breakthrough. When he has emerged from his secret bedroom on the first floor of their mansion, that is a breakthrough. I am done. I'm done. I can't think of any more Georgia's history. I don't think I even want to at this point. I was about to say when he is not shirtless in a hot tub with his wife, but oh wait, that did happen. That did happen. Then he also talked, that was a little bit more of a breakthrough moment for me because he did talk a little bit about his fears about going to jail. You can see him sort of like his eyes are drifting off to a distant place as reality was starting to sink in. He was trying to be like also, that's what Scott planned. That's what Scott planned, but you can actually see he's scared. Now, the license thing is the least of his worries now. Right. I mean, that's one of the fucked up slash delicious things about this program because I actually do think that Jersey, despite the fact that it's boring to me, is kind of more authentic because you really do have these serious problems and these family issues that are present and constantly in flux. But Joe really did seem a little upset there. And the thing is, it's like, this is just the beginning, buddy. Like, we are not even at the point with the 39 counts of this and that Teresa could go to jail too. And the oh my god, this is national fucking news on CNN about how messed up your life is. Probably make some pine for the days when his biggest stress was folding some pizza boxes at the old pizzeria, which I'm sure there are plenty of dead bodies buried under that. I'm sure. So I think that's pretty much it for Jersey, right? For the most part, I mean, they're also, we're kind of getting at a point now where Melissa's kind of just a bitch. Yeah, she's just sort of, you know, she is, she and Teresa deserve each other, sister-in-laws, because they are, they are both guarded. And the fact that both them couldn't get the meaning of that horse exercise. I agree with Caroline on that. That really showed how guarded they are and why they will never be able to resolve it because they did miss the point completely. Will Al and Caroline ever be able to resolve their problems through equine therapy or those two just fucked and headed for divorce themselves? I don't know about equine therapy, maybe egg salad therapy, courtesy of it, cafes. I don't even know what egg salad therapy would look like, tastes like or smell like, but I hate egg salad. I think egg salad therapy is, you have to walk up to Lauren Manzo, and if you're feeling unguarded and you pet her arm, she gives you a scoop of egg salad. I don't think that she has hooves. She reminds me of like a big old grizzly bear, and I feel like if you were ever, you know, she's one of those like grizzly bear mamas that instead of protecting her cubs, protects her like, you know, big old that of egg salad, and you know, whenever like somebody threatens her cubs, meaning her, you know, that of egg salad, she kind of like pause at them, like big old ham-hop pause. I love that you've had this like running joke for a year that like Lauren Manzo is an expert and guardian of egg salad at the face. I'm gonna be honest with you. Like, I understand the cub face jokes at this point, but where the hell did the egg salad come from? I've totally forgotten. I think we just had a run of jokes once like a year ago that like, they did nothing like that it was such a silly concept and that you get your makeup and then an egg salad sandwich. And we just kept on joking about egg salad sandwich and people in the comments were about egg salad sandwiches and we just started making everything pertaining to Lauren and now the manzo's in general has to do an egg salad and it makes no sense. And if they were ever to watch us, they'd be like, what the fuck is wrong with you people? We don't even need egg salad. It's like, I'm sorry, manzos. It's just as a funny concept and it just seems to suit you guys. So well, you guys are an egg salad family. Right. I mean, we grew up with the manzos throwing ham at each other. I mean, that's a family fun time game at the manzo household. So what's a little egg salad on the side? Yeah, listen, if you have allowed yourself to be filmed on camera throwing ham on your walls, then I'm sorry, you have to be able to accept the fact that you might be associated with egg salad also. You might be associated with any deli item. Right, especially when you name your store kaface, which really looks like cafe, which is cafe face, but we prefer to, you know, call it cat face. I mean, really, it really is up there with one of the silliest names. Ben, when are you flying back to LA? Because I feel like you're close enough where you should go on a housewives tour while you're still in the East Coast, get up some hotspots in Jersey, hit up some hotspots, you know, maybe you could go, you could go to, you could definitely go to Quag, you could even pop into Zaren fabrics and see if Jill is actually still working behind the register. I could, I'd be like, hey, Jill, remember me, we did a podcast together. I've walked by Zaren fabrics before. I would be definitely intrigued to go to Franklin Lakes. That's for sure. I could be convinced to go there. I'm trying to think of the other local landmarks. I don't know. Posh. Oh, yeah. Posh. I absolutely have to go to Posh and Caface and Richie's gas station. Oh, yes, definitely. And I'm trying to think of New York, New York places I could go to. I mean, last, last time this year was when I had drinks with Maggie from Gallery Girls. That was a pretty good bravo moment there. I felt good about that. That was a great, that was a great bravo moment. It was a great watch what Crapin's moment because then we were able to come back and tell us all about it a few weeks before Gallery Girls was canceled. I felt so honored that my, that my real life intersected with Gallery Girls and that I got to see a cockroach on Maggie's head. She was funny, but I felt bad for her because who wants a cockroach on her head? But it was kind of funny that it fell on her head. Did anything else happen during this episode or was I ever doing this for you? Drink love. So each drink love, it's running out of steam for me, I have to say. Well, how many episodes is this season? I don't know, probably like seven. It's like this past episode was, listen, if I have to sit and watch Waylon flirt her way with this chef any longer, I may just have to throw myself in the phone oven because it's not that it's like how many times did we have to watch her try on her wedding dress again? She's like, what this thing? Want me to put this on? Okay, I guess one more time. I mean, look, this girl is not like, compared to some of the other girls on the show, Waylon is not 23. Let's just call a spade a spade. So stop putting on your wedding dress because you are sadder than Katherine Heigl, star of 27 dresses. Yeah, that's, that is exactly how it came off. I mean, listen, you know, she's, she's a beautiful woman. She really is beautiful. I think I actually think that she's gorgeous. She's gorgeous. Despite her hideous back tattoos that the sort of like, and her Sammy Hagar hairdo. No, I like her hair. But she's, she's affected. My friend and I were talking about this off line. There's something about it that's very affected like, oh, I'm just in this rom-com and oh my god, like I said, I wouldn't date a chef again, but here I am. Oh, let's go to Lola's, you know. There's something just a little precious. No, don't ever, or no to you. Don't ever invite me to go to Lola's on La Brea. Well, guess what, a close last week. So permanently, because it sucks. It's on Fairfax. Yeah, I didn't like Lola's on Fairfax. That's right. And I know that they created the green apple martini, but well, we saw how that turned out. Yeah. So she's, she's sad and pathetic and clearly trying to be an actress, but I secretly love her, but really, Fonot's boring. I mean, she's, she's very talented, and she seems smart, but I just don't like this whole like, like, excessively coy routine that she has. It's just, it gets a little anxious to me. I don't, I don't like it. Okay, for those of you out there who are listening to this podcast, Ben, you should probably define the word "unctious." It's like Waylon, you know. It's Waylon. It's like, it's, it's hard to describe. I did want to hang out, though, with her mom and her brother at her mom's house, which in Hancock Park, with that little private pool in the backyard. I was all about that. Yeah, no, that was, they have definitely a sweet setup. And again, don't get me wrong, Waylon seems bright and she is beautiful. I just, I just don't like this attitude that she has. Well, Rich can't get a poem out again. I can never walk into a store again. Rich people are horrible. It's true. It's true. They are. I'm looking at the proper definition of "unctious." Okay, here it is. Of a person who is "unctious," excessively or ingratiatingly flattering, oily. He seemed anxious to please, but not in an unctious way. She doesn't seem oily. She doesn't need a VO. Well, maybe she needs a VO5. That's just, I may have used the word incorrectly. She is not oily. She is not oily. So then we had, I can't get out of my dictionary screen. So then we had, let's see, there was a lot of the Chipmunk girl. Jessica, is that her name? Yeah, who, by the way, really, did you tell me, have you been to Fuku Burger or not? I had some of their catering at an event, but I haven't. Right, but you didn't seem blown away by that. The catering was not great. No. Every time, I got to tell you people, this is the girl that is the manager/prmarketing girl behind Fuku Burger. She seems kind of cool because she like tweeted at me or something, but here's the thing. I drive past that Fuku Burger constantly because it's on my way to the Arklight and I drive down, up and down Colleen, go like every other day of my life. There is never anybody in that. It's one of those places with like the open front. Nobody is ever in that goddamn restaurant. It is true. It is always pretty empty and that's a strip where there's like a lot of restaurants and have a lot of people in that. And if you're serious competition, I mean, Ben, you know this. I'm not, I don't love stout, but you like stout, but stout is packed and nobody, and they're eating burgers and drinking beer there. They are not doing it at Fuku Burger. Yeah, no, all those places are crowded. I mean, I would like to go to Fuku Burger when I get back to LA, I'll go to Fuku Burger, give it a try and report back here. Maybe we should go to Fuku Burger next week before the podcast and we'll try it so that we can talk more shit about her and the restaurant on the podcast. Absolutely, but I won't be back next week. Are you some like rich Kelly Killer Inventsumone on a seven-week vacation? No, no, no, no. I'm I'll be back on the 15th, but I will not be back before then. Unfortunately, I have to spend the next year. Thanks. Thanks, Jews and your and your holidays like Russia, Shana. Happy New Year, by the way, to everyone who's Jewish and listening to this. So anyway, so Fuku Burger, but here's one thing to Jessica's credit. She, at the very least, managed to snag an extremely hot guy for now. Yeah, are they still together? Let's take some bets. Are they still together? No, because you probably have to sit through that entire day and realize I cannot possibly date this girl. Right, or if he ever watched any of these episodes of this show, he would probably just kill himself. He was hot. But the other thing that happens with Rebecca is that last week, she got a price quote from Lindsey, this sort of new side character who's a mixologist and also an actress. She has a full-on IMDB page. What is she? What is she starred in? Has she starred in any films by the amazing producer Gone with the Wind Fabulous Kenya Moore? Has she been in any of her productions? She could only dream. She could only dream to be in a Haitian voodoo themed horror romance. But maybe she will. Someday, maybe she will. So I guess Lindsey quoted her $5,000 friend rate to come up with six cocktails. I think it was to do six cocktails and to consult with a bar. Do you think that that is a reasonable rate or no? What's the number? For six? $5,000. I think it's not reasonable. No, it's way too high. That's ridiculous because guess what? For those of you people who are listening to this and you don't live in Los Angeles, guess what? Everybody in Los Angeles thinks that they're an actor. Everybody in Los Angeles thinks they're a DJ because they know how to plug headphones into an iPod that's plugged into an apple. Everybody in LA thinks that they're a mixologist because they took one of those like weird online bartending classes. Everybody in Los Angeles thinks that they are all of these things because we all have to be jacks of multiple trades. Guess what? Nobody should be paying for any of this shit more than like 20 bucks a drink. The end. The end. I think she could have gone away with saying for a friend rate 1500 and for like a business rate 2000. I think 5,000 for a second max. Yes. 5,000 is ridiculous. What she should do is say, okay, I'm going to charge this much per hour. Let's say you'll charge $100 per hour, which I think for creating something whatever you could probably do. Right. That's not just showing up. That's showing up and doing something. Yeah. Because you've got to do your groceries and all that and you've got to try different things out and you've got to buy your supplies. I think $100 per hour is a reasonable sort of freelancing rate, etc. Not for writing an article for a newspaper, but for anything else in the world. Yes. But $5,000, that's ridiculous. I thought that was, I understood what Lindsay was saying that this girl Jessica was kind of like, "Well, just come up with something. Just do it." And Lindsay's like, "You can't just say that." But that being said, her price was way too high. Well, and yes, you can just come up with something. I'm sorry, but throw some cucumber and some mint and some simple syrup and some grapefruit juice and shake it on the rocks and then put a little thing of quantrell on top and call it the Mandelker and, "Oh, everyone thinks you're the talk of the town." Exactly. You know what? You go into any really good bar in LA or New York City or San Francisco or Portland or wherever. You go into any good bar and you tell a bartender, "Ah, I'm feeling like, you know, I want something that's like refreshing and interesting. Make me something cool like that." They will sit there and look like this for 30 seconds, 45 seconds, and they will create something on the spot. Okay. Now, I've been to, there's a bar in LA called the Library Bar in the Roosevelt Hotel, and the bartender there was a Matt Bianchello, Bianchello, whatever, and he was, he's a genius. He's an absolute genius. He throws together stuff, metal bushes or whatever, and he does, and he will do it if you just ask him, "I want some of this and some of this." He will create something and he'll put it in and he'll say, "How was it?" etc. On the fly. Now, this guy does get paid a lot of money now to consult for different places because he's a proven entity and he's great at it, but the point is this. Well, but it's also like some mantha ronson. Is she that good of a fucking DJ or was she the first person to market herself properly and now she's off making a fortune for fucking spinning an iPod? Well, she is a case of someone who's perhaps over hyped, but Matt Bianchello, he actually has a talent. He actually can make these cocktails, and therefore he can also command the money. But the point is this, though, it won't take, this is not something that takes him like hours on and nothing else. Maybe he'll take some time to perfect it, but the point is you can create these cocktails on a whim very quickly, at least to get going. And if you're an unproven entity like this Lindsay girl who, I think she works at Harvard and Stone, which is legit, but she doesn't have a name like Matt Bianchello, she can't be charging $5,000. That's not correct. Are you getting a check for $5,000 for every time you say Matt Bianchello? Probably not because I think I'm saying his name wrong. Oh, okay. Well, therefore you forfeited all of the money you should be earning. I forfeit it to through your burger. They can use all of the help that they can get. So, can we talk about this? Can we talk about the sad tall blonde girl that wants to get laid? But yeah, she's just sad. You know what? Have you noticed though, the best scenes are the ones where Brenda's around. Have you noticed that? Yes, I will give. I will give her that, but she's just awkward. Well, I agree. But what were the two most fun scenes? What were the two best scenes of the episode? It was when there was the group dinner and Lindsay and Jessica got into it because Lindsay was making fun of the glitter and all the crafty things. And then Jessica was like, oh, by the way, we won't be using your services, your $5,000. And then Lindsay's like, bitch, I can't believe that bitch quoted my quote of my quote from all these girls. Hello, you run a reality TV show and you announced this to the world. But notice Brenda was there for that scene. And then the other scene was when Brenda told Kat O'Dell that she's basically a slut again. Well, nobody needs to tell Kat O'Dell that she's a slut because Bravo has it in their mind. The producers and the editors, the editors of this show have something against Kat O'Dell where they have decided to make her look like the biggest hoe bag on Bravo. And I think it is so hilarious. I know. I'm getting sick of the way she's always saying hi. Hi, like anytime a waiter comes to a waiter comes and she's like, hi, how are you? She is the epitome of fake. I mean, completely inauthentic. She is one of those girls that will just be nice to your face and forget you or talk shit behind your back. I mean, she is such a fucking LA chick. It makes me nuts. She's like, I put this ice shop on the map. I read about it. I put it on the map. I'm like, I still haven't heard about that place. Well, and by the way, if you've read any of her reviews, which I know you have, guess what? Not award-winning work at all. They're not even reviews. It's like, just because a PR person sends you a press release and you publish it and then people hear that, it does not. I mean, that does not make you like some wonderful like finder of cuisine in Los Angeles. It just means you put a press release on the site. Well, it also means in her case that she slept with the owner and she wanted some like free meals. That's what that means because when it comes to Caddo Dell, you know, you get a good review. If she does, you're right. And by do you write, I mean, she did you're right. She did you're right. She did you're right. Yeah. I mean, she's like, oh, why would people think I'm a slut? I haven't even slept with that many people. And then they do like, because anybody that talks like that is a slut. Yeah. And then they do the montage of her be like, well, we sort of have a thing and we kind of have something for me. And we sort of have like, I was calling Chris Quarry. And I don't know. I sort of have a thing for him to read them. I'm sort of dating five guys at once. Like, that's why cat, that's why people think this of you. And Brenda, I love Brenda dropping her truth, Bob. She's like, can I be honest with you? Don't be mad. But everyone thinks you're a slut who seats with everyone you read about. Don't be mad. The most passive aggressive way to drop the news. It's great. I love when somebody preffices something so awful that way. I know. Don't be mad, but. Yeah. Oh, well, I think this show does not have, I think it's, here's my problem with the show. It's best when the women are being caddy and passive aggressive to each other, like gallery girls. And it's worse when it's trying to be sincere and almost like the hills. And got to stay away from the reminiscing on engagements, lost and romance in Lola's. And you got to focus basically on Brenda and cat. And and now Lindsey, this Lindsey girl. Well, I don't think that we're going to have too many more episodes of this because I feel like we're already at least halfway through the season. But don't next week, don't they go like on some crazy girls, like getaway, which is, you know, that's just guaranteed to cause drama. They are. And you know, as we all know, the crazy girl getaway always signifies that the end of the season is near. So, right. It's usually the penultimate episode, which means there's going to be some ladies getting topless in a swimming pool and screaming at each other and flirting rapidly with any penis that walks into the room, whether he be a plumber, a la Sonya or a bartender, a la Sonya. Yeah. I think we're going to have two episodes after the trip. That's the way it goes. You have one episode to deal with the aftermath and one episode to tie up the season. And I think that's what we're looking for, which is perfect because then it'd be seven episodes total. And at that point, we will not be getting a reunion based on the ratings for this show, nor do I think that these cast of characters will even be invited on watch what happens live with Andy Cohen because I don't think that Bravo, well, I think Bravo realizes that nobody really gives a shit. Yeah. And, you know, by the way, if I were on one of these struggling shows or if I were a producer, I would be pissed because, you know, one way that you can drum up interests is by having cast members on watch what happens. Like, Bravo has its own publicity machine ready to go. And they just still don't give any love to their people on their smaller show. Do you know what is so weird when you said that? I thought you were actually saying, they are so dumb for not contacting us to be on watch what crappins so that they can talk to our fan base about their struggling shows. You would think they would do that too, but I don't think we're going to be invited on watch what happens anytime soon. No, no, no, I didn't mean that we should be on watch what happens even though we should. I meant, like, why doesn't Bravo's PR people offer up these cast members of these shows that are struggling in the ratings to people like us who could actually maybe do something for them. I know I mean, do something for them. I mean, I would have loved to have Kat O'Dell on this podcast to defend her sluttiness live on camera with us. I mean, how fun would that be? Well, I can email her. No, don't. Right. I feel like I don't want to email her. I don't know. I feel like it's not worth it. You know what would happen then? This is what would happen. You would invite her. She would come on the podcast. I would kiss her ass and be all nice to her the way I was to Jill's Aaron. And then five seconds later, I'd go back to trashing her ass. I feel like, I feel like, actually, to be honest, she'd probably come on here and be surprisingly charming and sweet. And then you'd be like, you know what, that Kat O'Dell's all right. And then we'd be like, every like Kat O'Dell. But I think, you know what, though, we could definitely get Brenda on. That's like, I guarantee we could get Brenda on. Is Brenda our top choice? Brenda is my top choice, to be honest. If I could have anybody I would get Brenda since the first episode, Brenda is my favorite. I would rather just have Chantal from Gallery Girls. That's the dream. We should have, I mean, some of those Gallery Girls that probably don't have jobs right now, or they're working for free like Maggie at a horrible Gallery where they're not paid to count rocks. We should have hired one of them to like recap or be part of, you know, watch what crappins this summer and, I don't know, I just feel like we need a former cast member from one of these shows to watch along with us to come onto the show every once in a while and kind of give us their two cents. What if we staged the Gallery Girls reunion that the show always deserved? We just reach out to all the girls and say, listen, come on our Google Hangout and we're gonna have a Gallery Girls reunion. We'll get Angela, we'll get Chantal, we'll get Maggie, we'll get Liz, we'll get Liz, we'll get that foreign girl from Long Island, we'll get, and we'll get, who's Chantal's End of Century pal? What was your name again? Can we get Chantal's gay, can we get Chantal's gay boyfriend? Chantal's gay boyfriend and Angela's gay buddy, you want to go, go, go. If you don't know what, if you don't know what I'm talking about, look it up on YouTube. Yeah. Maybe we really should give the show a proper, a proper treat or a proper send off that way, because Bravo just buried it in the rubble, whereas, you know, maybe we should do that, you know, one year since. I guarantee that we could probably get, especially if we have Maggie's help, we could definitely get a Gallery Girls reunion on Watch What Happens. Maybe we should just, if you want to watch Watch What Crapens from Art Basel, I can't have another year without Art Basel on my TV screen. Oh my God. There's so many things that want to happen right now, like my brain is now like thinking of the possibilities. If we could get all the Gallery Girls in one place, that would be so utterly amazing. You know, if we could get each Gallery Girl to draw a picture of one of their co-stars and then put them all up in a Gallery. A Gallery Girls. Like, how would Matt, how would Maggie draw Liz? Oh, and how would Liz draw Amy? And how would Chantal draw anybody because she's so drunk on wine that is not from Oregon? Not from Oregon. I really wish I could remember that other girl's name. Chantal and Chantal and... The sad one with the long hair that whose parents gave them the startup money. Maybe someone who's watching right now could let us know, except no one's watching us right now because we recorded at a, oh wait, no, Amy. Amy is laughing. Amy, come to the rescue girl. Amy and Catherine, Catherine Emmons and Amy are watching. And Amy says, pull a Jimmy Fallon and let's have a GG reunion. Amy will show up for sure. LOL. Yeah, I think so. And I gotta look up. You know so. I'm looking at... Was it Angela? No. No. Angela was the Asian girl who took up all her clothes. With her little boobies. Yeah, exactly. Well, we'll have to wait to find out who the other Claudia. Claudia was the other one. Oh, she's so pathetic. All right. Wait, Claudia, if you're listening, we'd still love to have you on this podcast. I love all the... I love all the gallery girls equally. Oh, but no, Amy holds a special place in our hearts. They all... I don't even know where to begin because they're like the Avengers of women. They each have a special power. And when they all come together, they can stop the aliens from invading New York City. Right. I mean, when they all come together, that is a billion dollar box office hit. Absolutely. Like they alone, they can do a lot of things. But together, you need them to come together to save the world. Like the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. The gallery girls. They are our leaders. All right. Well, I think... Let's wrap it up. Yes. Let's wrap this up. So anyway, come visit us on Facebook, facebook.com/watchwhatcrapins. Come join the fun. Wait! Yes, Matt. Oh, Ben, I know you wanted to end this early because it's so little on the East Coast. Go ahead. Two things. Yes. This season of interior therapy with Jeff Lewis is freaking fantastic. And he had an episode last week with two lesbians that lived in the outskirts of Los Angeles. And it was awesome. Okay. And one lesbian proposed to the other lesbian. And it was really sad and cute. And I loved it. And then there was one this week where the girl reminded me of Amanda from Big Brother. And then she had a hot husband. And she was mean to him. Oh, yeah. Okay. That's all I had to say. I'm still watching all the Jeff Lewis shows people I should write about it on Facebook. And if you're still watching Jeff Lewis shows, let me know because I would love to talk to you about it. And I'm also watching Million Dollar Listing Los Angeles. But I think that I'm probably alone there too, right? No, I started watching some of it before I left for New York. And I'm personally watching Top Chef Masters, which I love, actually. I love Top Chef Masters. So if you want to talk about that, find me on Facebook, facebook.com/watchwhatcrapins. 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