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Hey everybody, welcome to Watch what Crapkins, a podcast about all the crap we'd love to talk about. Hello, this is actually a two-part podcast we joined up with your reality recaps earlier for a video podcast that is on their channel, and we'll upload that audio, so hopefully you've listened to both, but I don't know. Anyway, I'm Ronny Karen from TrashTalkTV, you can find me at TrashTalkTV.com or on YouTube, YouTube slash TrashTalkTV spell T-E-E-V-E-E, and I'm here with Matt Whitfield from Yahoo! Say hello, hello, I apologize in advance, my internet is being a bitch, more of a bitch than me, so bear with me today. It's like the Matt Whitfield of Internets. Yeah! High five, Ronny. Yeah, talk. You guys did anybody bring some holla, because I'm really, I need to throw some fucking holla in a lake right now, because I'm like stressed out. I brought the next best thing, a menorah! Oh my gosh, do it up, so you can find Matt on, his name is Life on the Endless, you can find him on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, stuff, uh, don't, don't, don't friend me on Facebook, like just don't friend me on Facebook, it's too much, like I share enough on Instagram, don't friend me on Facebook. Alright, so Instagram and Twitter, and then again, it's bsideblog, you can find him at bsideblog.com or the name bsideblog on Instagram, Twitter. He's on the most social network. Instagram, Vine, all that stuff. Are you a homosexual with a Pinterest board? I do have a Pinterest board, but I don't, but I don't, I use it actually, I don't care if people follow me on that or not, I use it pretty much to read, to save articles that I come across that I want to go back to, so like list of five best restaurants for this or that. So you're a hoarder. You're a hoarder. You're an internet hoarder. I am. I am. Can we say something also, right now, for those of you who are listening to us right now on iTunes or Stitcher or whatever, you're listening to us, but we're actually doing this video, we are going to say, this is a hangout, so you can, you will still be able to listen to us and hopefully get some of our visual things, like the fact that just literally held up a menorah, but keep in mind that you can now watch us, we'll put the video on our Facebook page, facebook.com/watchworkraphens, and then this will go up on our YouTube channel, youtube.com, which one is this on, Watch For Crappins? The TV click. Oh, the TV click. The TV click. Yeah, because we're calling it the TV click, because we also do a big brother podcast every week, and so we're kind of branching out a little. Fair with us. I know that's really super confusing and annoying, the TV click Watch For Crappins stuff. I know. Sorry, we're muddling the waters a little bit, but, or muddying the waters a little bit, but we are gonna get our shit together, and we'll be one uniform name soon once we figure it out. It's okay. You know what? I, um, I guilted, um, one of our beloved listeners, Hey Seuss, um, after he gave us a mediocre review on iTunes, and he was kind enough to go back and switch it, saying he didn't realize that we were going through some growing pains, and that we were switching stuff up a bit and trying some new stuff. So thank you for switching your iTunes review back to five stars, which is where it fucking belongs. I'm not going to terrorize you until you do. You should know if you mess with the bull, you're going to get the horns. I'm a Taurus, I'm a Taurus mother fucker. You do not mess with Matt Whitfield. He will come after you. He is, he, this is, this is no sad bull in a, uh, in a Tijuana rodeo or whatever there were. Trying to get my ride over you. Is that better? I've been moisturizing so well that it makes me look like a fat sweaty pig by the time we do this. You're glowing. Are you doing like a, uh, are you doing a spray like, uh, Joe Gorga at the, uh, spray sizzle town? No, girl. Yeah. I'm drinking a lot of water, taking fish oil, and I'm on a fast for 20 days until it's my birthday. Sounds healthy. Sounds very healthy. No, I don't think I ask. Anna Rexia. Matt, you look like can do anything. Yeah, I'm not. So okay, for those of you who are just listening, only here in the audio, uh, what you're missing out is that Ronnie is skin looks radiant and Matt looks like a ginormous, uh, Jets fan at the moment because he's all in green and white. What? I fucking hate the Jets. I love the Jets. But you look like a Jets fan. You're wearing Jets color. It was like crazy. I feel like every week, I feel like every single week we're like, okay, guys, the goal today is just to get right into the show and not just talk about ourselves for 15 minutes. And every week we're like, what are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? I just don't know. Am I too bright? Am I too bright? I just turn on a light. No, you look good. Okay. Well, I have a date tonight. So we need to get the show on the road. Wow. All right. Let's do it then. Okay. Well, first of all, the first part of this podcast was, like I said earlier, a joint podcast with your reality recap. You can look search for that or you can look up Eric Kurtow, C-U-R-T-O. Find that. The audio will be uploaded later. We mostly talked about our Real Housewives of Orange County. Matt got kicked off of that hangout. So he wasn't really in that much. So we're going to talk about it again. Which means all of you guys watching right now will like this one more. Yeah. So we're going to talk about that again super quick just so we don't torture you with it. But I mean, that was a good, good finale. So I think it's fitting that we talk about it twice. Sure. Okay. I'll just give you my abbreviated notes and then you can get your thoughts on. Sure. I fucking hate Heather with all of my being. I think that she's evil and I don't think that anybody calls her on her shit. And I think that she needs to get called the fuck out on the reunion. Well, what do you want them to call her out on exactly? I like Lily Tomlin to come call her out. That's what I'd like. That is true. That's a real story about Malibu country. Or Sarah Rue. But I actually just think that she's treating Gretchen like shit. And Gretchen is like, I never claimed to be some Emmy winning actress. So why is this bitch sending me nasty texts? I do not get it to save my life. I actually think that Heather has nothing to talk about except her, you know, boring husband and children. And so she's trying to make some drama to keep herself on the show. She has nothing to bring. Well, and the drama she's making comedy Malibu country style. Yeah, guys. She's like the new Roseanne fast forward to the end of the episode where they do that little scroll freeze frame. And when they talked about Malibu country being canceled, I thought it was the meanest, funniest thing ever. Here's the ABC has to put it back on the air if only to give us another season of drama. Because you know, if it's back on the air, they're going to totally invite like Gretchen on for role and not Heather. Do you do not think that ABC is has already greenlit some trash for Friday night? I mean, oh, actually, they're putting that show with the alien family that used to be after the middle after Tim Allen on Friday. So an alien family would be perfect for Gretchen. Or Alexis, really. I don't think Alexis is coming back, guys. Really? Yeah. That was a good buy. I mean, I think that Jim Bellino was crying because he knew his goose was cooked. I'm like, who's going to pay for the new chin? Because that one's going to need some sanding down at the very least. I mean, it's like, he's like, I waited for the last $1,000 on this curve that I just saw on sale for $25 at Marshall's. He's so awful. It's like you're finally nice to your finally nice to a needy person and they rob you. He's just so gross. Get out of here. Nice to Jim Bellino. They're goners. What they need to do is they need to bring in a new ally for Gretchen because she is on an island all alone, which is actually unfortunate because by the end of the episode I was rooting for her and Slade, what is wrong with me? No. You know, undisturbed because everybody seems to be in that boat. Everybody's rooting for Slade and Gretchen. What? I am. Who? I totally am. I'm rooting for them. Here's the thing. Like, if she wants to make her mistakes, let her make her mistakes. If people want Vicki to go ahead and make her own mistakes with Brooks, Gretchen should be able to make her own mistakes with Slade. And here's the thing. They have been together for a long time. Why not just let them do it? Maybe he is not paying child support, but so what if she loves him? If she loves him, let her do it. She doesn't care who you sleep with? No, no. No one's saying that they shouldn't get married. I mean, maybe like the human population wouldn't like it, but the thing is no one's telling them to stop, but you just don't like Slade because he's an asshole and everything that he represents. He's bringing her down. He's an asshole. Why? He says mean things. He's smarmy. He thinks he's hilarious. Can't tell me. Okay. He's not hilarious. His radio show was trash. He is smarmy. There are a lot of horrible things about him, but no one can sit up here and say that Vicki was not a motherfucker to him as well. Oh, Vicki's horrible. Of course. No one's going to hurt you right here. That's for sure. I think the thing with Slade, the worst thing to me with Slade is that he is so obviously only dating Gretchen to be on TV. I mean, it's he's so obviously clinging on directly on the show. It's so pathetic and sad and it makes me feel bad for Gretchen. I mean, that's just a hooters waitress who wants to marry up and she's ending up with some fucking loser because he got her a gig in Vegas singing with the pussy cat and all us for a night. I'm sorry. You cannot be on Team Teresa and anti Melissa because she is like devious and trying to manipulate her way onto a show and then be on Team Slade and not Vicki. I mean, they're pretty much, it's like, if you're on Team Teresa, you should probably be on Team Vicki also in terms of like Teresa and Vicki is diluted and she doesn't realize like what a hypocrite she is. That's exactly what's happening to me right now in the past few weeks on Jersey NOC. I've come back to the original gangsters and I'm secretly team Teresa and team Vicki at this point. Well, here's the thing, I'm after everything I just said, I'm Team Vicki but Team Melissa. That's a lot. The thing is with these shows, you have to know they're all going to be horrible, you know? They're all going to be horrible people. Like, you can't be a fan of football and then be mad that somebody threw your favorite person on the ground. Like, it's going to happen. It's football. I mean, that's what we're watching. But I like Vicki because she just makes a sports reference and not a musical reference. What the fuck is happening? I know and football and there's no musical even about football. I could have done baseball and then segwayed into Dan Manki's but I'm really pushing it up for you guys. Thank you. You're welcome. But yeah, I mean, I accept that Vicki's a total asshole. That's why I love Vicki. I love Vicki because she is wearing the worst dress possible. She looks like pizza dough wrapped in saran wrap and someone's like squeezing it because they don't understand how to unwrap it so they're just trying to squeeze it until it comes out. That's what she looks like. She looks like toothpaste. Like, you know, before you like fold up the end of the toothpaste to start pushing it properly out and you're just like a caveman squeezing it like this, that's what she looks like. And I'm okay with it. I've got a new, a new tube on a daily basis and just throw the old one away. That's how to, that's balling baby. Thank you. Wow. That's how to ball. So yeah, so the biggest thing of the night was the abuse rant from Ryan, which we've already gone off, off of that on the other show. So I want to hear your take Matthew. I think that he's a dick and the problem with this is I have been Brianna's biggest fan since day one and at this point, I want her to get rid of this dude. He is scary. I don't know if he was intoxicated or if he's just one of those like, and I'm not trying to get any military folk riled up right now because a lot of my family is ex-military and the military, I'm not anti, I'm not anti-military. But he seems one of those like roided out young dudes who drinks lots of like monster energy drinks, drives a big fucking truck and wants to shoot guns and just act like a fucking dick. You know what that's called, it's called white trash. Oh, there you go. It's called OC white trash and that is what he is. It makes me sad that he is with Brianna because I love her and he was totally inappropriate and the star of the show last night was Lydia's mom. Yeah, who by the way, @64 looks amazing even though I know she's had some work done. I think Ryan was so scary and abusive, Brianna is no longer the voice of reason on the show. I think we now have a show where there is no voice of reason. You're right. You're right. No, Lydia is the voice of reason actually. Lydia is the voice of reason. I hate her though too, so I know you guys like her, but I hate her. Man, I like her. I hate her. That's like my best story. She's doing like a hamster, they're so cute. I like that she defended her mom, but I don't like what she said to Slade. I just thought that she was inappropriate. No. Oh my God. Matt. Matt, look, I feel like at this point, you're trying to get us off a golf. I think you're at this point, do I look like Luigi right now? I feel like I look like a Mario brother. No, you look like a Jets fan. Oh, okay. I'm a Jets fan slash Luigi. I'm not if you're trying to get us to gang up on you, so you could be like, you guys gang up on me and then, you know, I have come to a realization that I think that I'm the victim, but in reality, all victims are really the villains. Oh my God. Could you please call my mother and hug over the phone and make her understand that? I have finally realized that by being abused by you guys on multiple occasions, but anyway. I'm glad we could help. I am not trying to rob you guys. I actually think what Slade says about women is gross, but if Vicki is stupid enough and pathetic enough to go get plastic surgery, that's on her. With regards to Lydia, the cheeseburger comment was inappropriate. I get that. But Lydia said she was over it. Clearly is not over it. Kept bringing it. Kept bringing it up. Did she say she was over it, though? She then went up to Gretchen last night just because she's mad at Slade and she goes, "Ugh, you're garbage." And whether or not Gretchen truly is in the garbage? She is in that depression, did she? She said that. Yes, she did. No. She said you're both garbage. I don't remember that. She said, "Why am I even trying?" You're both dirty, she said. You're dirty. She's right. She's right. She's right. They're both dirty. It's like that saying that if women says, "You hang out with whatever, you hang out with trash long enough, you're going to start to stink," well, that's what's happened to Gretchen. I'm sorry. Oh my god, you're putting sauce. You're putting Gina Marie or something from Big Brother. That's really sad. No, I'm just like that. It's not Gina Marie. She's not Gina Marie. Do not invent that saying. Well, she's the most recent in memory and I think that that's sad. Well, fine. It works. Even the clock is right. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Can I just ask you one other question? That's another saying for you guys and she will not say that one. What is up with Lydia's husband? Lydia is like fighting Slade. She's defending her mom. She's fighting up right now. I'm like, "Where's your pussy husband?" I was thinking the same thing. He's a hunchback in the bell tower. I'm telling you. He's like, "You'll come back to me when you already come." I think he and Eddie were busy polishing some of the street bikes in Vicki's garage. I think he's slightly gay. Let's face it. He's probably rooting for his wife to become a full-time housewife forever and not get fired, which seems to be the curse of being the new OC housewife. He knows that in order to keep her jobs, she's going to have to do more than show up at parties and tell people her mom's a pothead. You've got to have more of a storyline. She finally got to yell at somebody and I think he was probably a good stage husband standing off holding her jacket and a glass of champagne for what you came up state. I think Lydia was great. I think all season long, she has spoken up at surprising times and she's been very articulate and she stands her ground and Slade Millie couldn't do anything bad. No, it's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. Yeah, she's stood her ground, but she's also an idiot with her little idea because she has those get-togethers where she's like, "Oh, what I bring to the world is my cookies." We have get-togethers also. You know what they're called? They're called podcasts. We're the biggest idiots of all because we're the ones sitting here talking about them. We're having a shit about their get-togethers. I know I'm an idiot. She doesn't know she's an idiot. That's the problem. Yeah, thank you. I think that that is the main distinction between us and them. We know. We know. So why is Lydia more guilty of that than all the others? I don't know. I don't mind. Why does Lydia not get a pass? Why do we say, "Oh, she's an idiot because she doesn't know." Whereas, what, but all of a sudden, Gretchen does know? Gretchen doesn't know. And just have Gretchen's back because she is a loner right now and I know what that's about. Uh-oh. Why frozen are you guys frozen? Damn. We're not frozen. We're not frozen. No, you're back. So what do you say, Lydia, is wet of the wet? Ben is saying something about Lydia, like, "Why are we giving her?" Why are we giving her? Why is it? Why is it? What's so frustrating about Lydia, the fact that she's an idiot but doesn't realize she's an idiot, why are we coming down on her as most like every single other woman on this guys? They're all idiots. No, they're all idiots. We're not denying that. I'm just saying right now. So what? After last night's episode, I am secretly team Gretchen and I'm back to team Vicky. Those are my two favorites. I don't give a fuck about the rest of them. I think, you know what, I would have to agree, Gretchen has delivered this year. She's gotten married to a fucking pig, which is getting a just, "No, I don't want to play with a squeaky toy, honey." She's married to pig, which is going to totally pay off in the future. She's sang another song, which has been wonderful. She's told off Vicky and she made those deadbeat dad references with Vicky, which I think was great. I was really proud of her. She's earned her spot. Vicky's been fucking crazy. She's scream. She's yelled. She's been great. Heather, bye. Tamara, you were horrible enough when you were me. Now you're nice. You're like, triple as bad. Get out. Who else? I don't even know who else. Lydia. I don't know. I couldn't even remember. Gretchen, to me, is fucking awesome. We know what we always like to do. All I'm going to say is this, bring a fucking Gina back and put Lori back full-time. I kind of would like that, too. I know that they're at the age now where they should be getting together and just playing canasta all day, but I'm even fine with that. The thing that you and I always love about this is with OC, especially, or even maybe New York a little bit, when it's the old ladies fighting, it's better when they're old. I agree. I'm always on it. Like, if you're 50 plus and you're fighting, that's so stupid. I love it. It's great. No, that's the best TV. Which is another reason why we should not like Gretchen anymore, because she's too young. She is. And it's also all that she is looking older than them with all that terrible, terrible plastic surgery. She's our hot day. Yesterday night. With slant. And? And? The upper lip is fucking crazy. Why did you do that to herself? She's stupid. Like, this is probably made fun of her or something. Probably. Shut up. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. But what else were they going to say about these two dumbasses? Oh yeah, I think that that was kind of the downfall of the OC when they started bringing in youth. I mean, Joe was kind of young. That's true. Like, it started with some youth, but she never really fit in anyway. Like, once they all start mixing them together, if there's just something disrespectful about someone Gretchen's age, yelling at someone's Vicki's age, like, I get that Vicki deserves it. And I get that it's the show, but it's just not right seeing someone like 20 years. Is she 20 years younger? Like 20 years younger. Easily. Yelling at it. A grandma. Like, she's literally a grandma. You can't be yelling at her and your names. I don't know. That's why I like, I don't know. I just, I missed Tammy Knickerbacher. I missed Gina. I want them to bring back more 50 plus tragic people that have gone through bankruptcy and are still fighting to have the OC lifestyle. Like, that's my dream. Oh, shit. You okay? Sorry. What's happening? Is there a technical stitch? Oh, no. I was just hugging Bueller because he's sad because I've just been like yapping at the computer and he really resents the computer. So I had to give him a hug, but then it unhooked my mic. Question for you guys. Because Brianna getting into the final freeze frame story arc situation mean that she is going to join full time next season because this to me was kind of like a set up like, you know, they rarely move them from friend or daughter to full time slash it's never really been done, but I have a feeling that Ryan may be acted out the way he did in order to get Brianna full time status next. No, he's not smart enough for that. He is crazy. Fucking asshole. He's an asshole with raised poorly and he does no idea how to treat people, let alone women, let alone women. You sound like, you sound like Vicki talking to Brianna going like, he doesn't know the way we live because, you know, that's my smash. Well, you know what? That actually really pissed me off. But he said, well, you know, he's from a different family and you know, different families have different things. No, it's not about different families. It's about having like a basic awareness of common courtesy and respect. And I'm sorry. Don't call yourself a soldier than treat a woman like that. Yeah. Don't get in your pocket. He's just like, only father. They're like, oh, he's from a different family, poor people beat their women all the time. Like, what the fuck kind of logic is that? That guy was close to hitting a strange old lady in the house. How wrong? But how great was it that Bravo's editors when he was telling Vicki, like, she told me to shut the fuck up, Bravo replayed the tape, which was, um, I don't know who you are, sir. As opposed to like, I'm wearing a fucking cool, like, clearly Bravo had her back. I love that they replayed the audio. He's disgusting. And Matt, you didn't get to hear me tell them on the other podcast. And I know you're just dying, but, um, what, um, but on Twitter, Vicki was saying that that scene was the, what Bravo showed was incorrect and that Brianna and Ryan had already moved out by that night. Oh, fucking please, please. I don't buy that for a fucking second. I know, right? Cause so the, where they just all playing by some script and pretending it didn't happen. And I don't know that whole, that whole show is just so bizarre. Vicki is embarrassed for Brianna. So she's going to try to cover Brianna's ass for her because Vicki's a mama bear like that. She's going to need a big blanket. Look, I think that Brianna is probably going to be added to the season. And I think she's going to be super fun to watch because she hates, she detests it. You can just tell that she detests it with every fiber of her being the bitch is stuck in a prison now with sleeping with the enemy and she's going to need somebody to run. She's also in a weird way, she's friendly with Gretchen, which probably drives Vicki up the goddamn wall. Like every time they show little mingling things, she and Gretchen seem buddy buddy because they're probably the closest in age. Yeah. And also they're two fairly normal people. I mean, Gretchen's from as much of a douchey asshole that she's with, she's semi-normal. You can have a normal conversation with her, I feel like, which the other ones you can't necessarily. True. Like Heather. Oh, there is no competition, Missy. I hate, I hate her more than Tamara. If I hate somebody more than Tamara, there is a problem. Oh, it's making me harder tonight. You always hate someone real bad every single week. I think it's super important. I do that when, even at work, like I just pick, and I don't do it on purpose, but I've noticed that I pick one person that I just start hating so much. What? All of my vitriol is like, spewed at that one person, so I could be nice to everybody else. And I think that that's a healthy way to live. Probably. So we have some questions from Facebook. Catherine Edmonds asks, Matt, are those glasses from Claire's? Um, Catherine, I love you, but I am going to pull my Heather card right now and go, no darling. That is a good call though, because those are the same ones that Howard and Jesse and Candice and all of them wear. Hey, bitches. I would totally get those. I would love to. This says Ray Bann, not Claire. Oh, that is. Oh, wow. Did you get them on the set of Malibu Country? I didn't get them on the set of Malibu Country. I got them at a place on Beverly Boulevard. I'm looking over the face. Which I won't, which I won't name because I don't want Maggie, she says no one has a sparrow cup. The answer is no, but again, I do have a menorah that will hopefully come into use at some point. I have a hint of water. I have a hit. I have watered down Starbucks. I have a button of squash in the other room. I don't know if that'll help. All right. So you know what? I hate to say this, but I am so tired of the fucking OC housewives. We just talked about them for like an hour now. I'm sorry. Okay. Okay. We got a rapid fire. This nothing happened on New Jersey. Really? Correct. Nothing. Yeah. There was sizzle tan. And that's it. Sizzle tan. There was sizzle tan. There was a lithium bar night, which was so sad. We got to see Joe Gorega with his shirt off, which was always for me and Ronnie. Gross. Okay. You guys. Darryl Valdez. Thank you so much, Darryl, because he sent us a tumbler page that showed us Russell from Big Brother naked, which, you know, you get naked pictures on live feeds or whatever. And so it was, of course, porn. It was like a ton of porn. And so I clicked on another one and it showed me a picture of midget Joe naked, he was showing his wiener and his butt. Where? You guys. He is a little midget stallion. He's not like why is that link not to do not post that. Why did you not page? I don't want to see it. I don't want to see that. Whatever. We've shown a lot worse than that. Ronnie, put that link up. No, we'll have to find it again, but I guess I'll do some tumbler porn. Speaking of tumbler, by the way, speaking of tumbler, I started up a little tumblers for you guys, for your own enjoyment. One is washercrapins.tumbler.com and one is the TV clerk.tumbler.com and it's basically just a bunch of gifts. So that's the one thing that you can't do on Facebook or see gifts. So if you want to see some fun housewives and make brother gifts, go there and enjoy that. Go there. Go there. Do it. I made one of Lydia last night saying, I can't even with you, whatever it was. I'm going to make one going. I can't even with you, Ben, for fucking backing up nasty ass Lydia. Listen, Matt. Listen, Matt. Look, I'm in rage today. We know that I'm in rage. I'm turning my hat backwards. Listen, I'm having a hard enough time because when I look at you, Matt, it looks like you are wearing neon green her bearings. Do you like them? I got them at Claire's. So you guys, something that happened on Jersey that I really liked was we got a peek into Caroline's marriage, which I thought was so fun. Al telling her to shut the fuck up was probably my favorite thing to happen on the show. And then when Al V tried to make an entire scene out of it and she's like, you know what? You know what? This is your parents. Not Caroline and now. Caroline and now? Yeah. And all that matter to why, Al doesn't want to know Caroline anymore. To me, actually, the scene felt a little bit like it was edited together to make it look like there was stuff going on. When Al V says something, he's like, "I'm going to watch TV now." I was like, "I'm sure that was from later on when he's like, "Okay, you've all finished on. I guess I'm going to watch TV now." You know, I felt like it was very edited and manipulated. I don't know, Caroline looked worldwide that got caught on TV and then for them to have to make another scene about it where the sun comes over a different day to talk about it because it was so gross, I don't think- Yeah, Caroline's freaking- Caroline is freaking out that that got on TV. Yeah, she's not happy with that. There's no way. Caroline, Caroline thinks like she's the Martha Stewart of the bunch. Just like that, thinks he's the Martha Stewart of our bunch. He kind of is. He kind of has Stewart. Well, he just said that he has a fucking squash baking in the oven. So he is. Nothing. He is just sitting. It wasn't a dish. I was just getting the facts straight. Where did Ronnie go? Yeah. Oh, I'm here putting on a picture of Al. But yeah, she, you know, I did feel kind of bad for Caroline because I feel like she's one of those women, you know, while we're talking about horrible, horrible men. I feel like she's one of those women and it's like she got married when she was really young. She's a fucking asshole and she's just been stuck with them because what else is she going to do? Wait, wait, are you crying for Caroline Manzo who has got to do nothing her entire life and sit on her ass on a mansion because her husband wants to go to work and fuck chicks in a back room? I'm not crying for her. I'm crying for her. You know what else? I'm crying for this fashion. She knows. Oh, I'm crying for some food. I want to eat. I don't even care. I'm fat. Who cares? I'm starving. I'm starving. Yeah, I do feel, I do feel kind of bad for Caroline. I think that she's already seen a shit situation. Fuck her. And her dumb children. Then what? I mean, fuck her stupid children too. All she's done is work for her children her whole life. They're obviously useless. Nothing's going to happen with them. She's not going to get taken care of by them. And Al's going to end up like screwing a bus girl and leaving if some house is going to bounce down. He is. I mean, that is part of their agreement. He's going to fuck chicks. She's going to sit at home and eat the end. That actually sounds like a nice life to me. I know. That sounds great. Never mind. I don't feel sorry for any more. Fuck her. Thank you. Jersey was such a snooze fest this week even with Jacqueline and Theresa coming face to face and Theresa calling Jacqueline an evil person. I could barely even keep my eyes open. I was on board to death. I hated this show last season. I'm done. I'm done. Well, here's the thing about that scene. I mean, I hate to say this, but I'm with Theresa. Jacqueline is a total a-hole. She's always been a total a-hole. She is always on Twitter spewing stuff at people. And she is evil. And I love that Theresa told her, "I believe there's evil people in the world." And you're one of them. I believe that. 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For a free trial and 10% off, go to squarespace.com/watchwhatcrapens and use the offer code CRAP8. Why? Why wouldn't we be? What do you have to say about princesses? Yeah. I was supposed to smile. What just happened? I don't know. I'm playing with buttons and all this weird stuff is happening. I'm trying to make it not just be on my face and now look, it's just on Matt's face. Matt, what could you possibly have to fight about with us on princesses? If we're not on the same page, you'll be shocked. I'm going to say this. I am starting to hate Chanel because she is so team Ashley. Oh no. Here's my other thing. Casey, if you are listening to this or watching this right now, go fuck yourself and do not retweet me when I post this because guess what? I hate you and you are the biggest asshole ever. So don't be retweeting me because I don't want your free retweets and more viewers on this because you fucking suck and the way that you treated Joey and the way that you immediately came to Ashley's defense and then you were such a bitch to a man in that restaurant, go fuck yourself. Yeah, I kind of still like Casey only because she didn't know and it's like on these Bravo shows, you know, what is everyone always getting in trouble for? They're always in trouble for not standing up for their friends like no matter what happens, she's trying to play by the Bravo who is getting up on her friend but Ashley girl, you cannot stand up for that. I mean that girl is horrible. I hope she felt stupid. Makes no sense. I wanted to love Casey because I was like, oh, she clearly didn't get on gallery girls. She's one of ours. You know, because we love us some gallery girls and she kind of rises above these bitches and goes to New York and tries to get away from it. But when she is defending that little creepy bug troll Ashley without having any fucking backs, it made me insane slash I'm still insane. So why don't we start with that? So she calls Amanda to go to lunch, right? So Amanda the dumb-dumb is like, hi, stop, stop, stop, you're looking like I have lunch to get a little. I love Amanda, so watch your dirty mouth. And then she breaks open, like she starts bitching at Amanda who's possibly the nicest person ever and she's like in the future, she's going to be a Mrs. Roper. You can just tell. Look at that family. And I can see that coming. Oh, gosh. Yeah. She's so nice. It's like, I mean, she's marrying a Kramer who's horrible, gay Kramer, but she's just so nice. It's like, how can you. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, look at that. Well, get through that. But yeah, how could she, how could she be mean to Amanda? The poor Amanda is just like, I don't know what you're talking about, but she can't form a sense. Like so. In case he's like, well, I have a man. I'm a Metro card, which means I'm in Manhattan a lot. So I'm better than you and whatever. Have fun having paid a full fare for the subway. Do you guys hear the car alarm out here? I think that's, I think that's, I think that's the sound of Ashley passed out in a hitchhiker his dashboard with a panic attack. She just crashed onto the hunt, but worn. All right. So let's just then, you know, let's just go all the way back to the beginning. Let's just go to the beginning. We need to go to the beginning. We need to start properly here. You do it. So the cliff hanger from last week was, where's Ashley, where did Ashley go? So of course, no one knows where she went. So half the girls who are hating on Ashley, they go and get on a yacht and go floating around and this, listen, they spend, it looked like probably hours, like seven hours rehashing this. This was like their favorite thing that ever happened to them. There's nothing that girls love to do more than to sit and rehash a drama like that. You know what I'm saying? You think it was kind of crazy that her dad was totally like, tell me everything. Well, I just assumed the producers may have asked that, but like, you know, what's her face? Erica was like, I'm sorry, like, you know, like, you don't want me off. You're like 30 years old, like, I'm sorry, I can't keep full of you, but there's like a yacht that's waiting for me. Like, I'm sorry. Yeah, I've got like a lamp. I got out of trouble. My dad went to a lot of trouble to get this, like, yeah, I'd like together because it's like going to go on the ocean. So like, we've got to be there because, like, there's places to be, like, there's appointments in the ocean that my dad made because, like, there's like a movement and like, this means like a lot to me too. And like, I don't know, like, like, if you can't keep it straight, like, I'm sorry that that's happened. I'm sorry you had like a stroke, but like, I'm sorry, like, there's a yacht and I have to go to it, like, we're speaking of all. Well, I was disappointed that this wasn't actually the stroke because we know that she's had a stroke, but we did not know, I didn't know, we didn't know last week if this was actually the episode because if all that drama caused her to have a stroke, I was just going to die laughing. But unfortunately, she had had it before and the stroke supposedly knocked out her ability to speak and to walk and I say stroke. Come on back to the diamond diamond stroke stroke more like funny looking what no, I've never I've never yet rooted for a stroke before the show. Now I'm all about strokes. I want to like sit out actually house with one of those flickering lights. What do you call a scrub light? Just outside Ashley's house. I just feel bad for her that if she lost her speech and then this is a perfect chance for her to like rebuild her speech and she still chose to have a god awful accent. It's like, I'm going to come back as British, you know, do anything she's like, Oh my god, my voice is back. I love that earlier today we're having a conversation about is our podcast dark and Ben's like, it's not that dark and Ronnie's going, I'm rooting for this girl to get a stroke. That's how we roll Ben and SFW, honey, your bad people, your bad people. She's awful and let me say that after the show I went on Twitter to see what this fucking idiot has to say for us up. She's horrible. She's so vile. She's nothing she did is wrong. It's still everyone else's fault and she's tweeting every star on Bravo's, which you know who else does that when they're wrong? Jill Zaren. Yes, she's a little Zaren over there with her little tweets like, Oh, hi. Caroline. It's me. I love you, hum. Let's have lunch. Like doing this to everyone who's ever been on Bravo. It's like, bitch, first of all, you've been to your last Bravo party. That's over. This rap party or whatever you had tonight is the end. That's it because you were never going to be back on Bravo. That show is gone. You're never going to be back anywhere. Like if they even let you into fucking long john silvers, this world is really lower the bar too much. Stay in your house. Fuck your dad. Leave the world alone. Okay. Shake it. Shake it. Shake it. So she, I guess she had a panic attack and she hitchhiked to the hospital, whatever. I love that. I think one of our listeners wrote in one of the comments, they're like, you know, she's using Joey of being low class and all the stuff, but like, who's the one who's fucking hitchhiking around on Long Island? It's Ashley. You know? But I love stupid Ashley. Okay. So Chanel's like sobbing. Why is Chanel sobbing? She has about people, she cares, Chanel's like Yenta without a singing voice to shut the fuck up. Shut up. Yeah. She wrote. It takes me back to that place. Well, she knows she's, she's not getting married anytime soon. Please. She's not doing that. Actually. Yeah. So Chanel's crying. And then Ashley's like, well, you know, but so are all I had to go to the hospital. They gave me a better job. They gave me a better job. Did you not? You gave me a pen slapping when she said they gave me a Benadryl? Yeah. Yeah. I died. That's how I proved that it was so horrible. You know who I give Benadryls to babies on planes that won't shut the fuck up. You have one. You shut it down. They're throat and they're quiet. Okay. Does that tell you anything? A little mid to idiot. I hate that girl. She's vile. Yeah. One of our listeners wrote a comment saying like, yeah, yeah. I give him Benadryls. My dog. Shut it up. Yeah. Unfortunately, you didn't work for Ashley. She's still talking. Oh my goodness. So then they rehash it. So the girls, so Ashley goes off. The girls go on the yacht and they rehash everything. And then we have now, so then I think somewhere around there we have a scene where Amanda goes on the L.I. double R with Jeff and just like, I have a question for you. Here comes a box and then everyone like, everyone on the train gave a shit. Everyone's like looking to see what the hell is going on, but only because there are cameras there. So he does his whole build up and he's like, why don't you take this point? I think it's promised ring and this is an engagement to be engagement committed. I respect you so much, baby. Yeah, you're so hot and we're doing this on the train because I respect you. It's where we met on the track. I'm going to get you guys to try it all day because I'm going to say this. I think that he is gay Kramer and I think that she has busted Lady Gaga, but I actually know. She is. I haven't seen that before, but that's very good. Gaga was already busted, but anyway, I just think that I don't care. If they want to be gross, let them be gross. I want, at least they're happy. Everybody else on that show is miserable. At least this girl is having a good time with her drink hanky and her boyfriend. Let them have fun. Look, I want to have as much fun as she does. I want somebody to give me a promise ring and a drink hanky. Look, I don't mind when ugly people find each other and fall in love. I just don't want to see them kiss in public. Here's my thing. I didn't care about it. Let him give her a promise ring, but I didn't like it when he then goes the entire train car. I was like, "Sad, can I get some applause here or what? Why the fuck do you need to applause because he gives him a promise ring?" You're asking me and running to talk about, I mean, we don't know. That's what you do. My people are wasps. I was looking at the Facebook, first of all, I love our Facebook page because you guys are just going. We didn't even announce that this was going to be a video and you guys are going there. You're commenting like crazy and it's wonderful. Who has commented over a hundred comments? Let me guess. Is it on this podcast right now? Hey, let's guess who's commenting. Does it rhyme with Misa Fierce? Lisa Fierce? You know, I really wish you would comment more because I feel like we never really get to hear what's on her mind. We have no idea what's going on with her. The big news of the day is that Lisa Fierce was unbam. I don't know how you got thrown in the spam folder. Sorry, I don't know how that happened, but if it makes you feel better, Antoinette was just in the spam folder as well, so I don't know why. But Antoinette, Paula, it's a badge of honor. Oh, Yumron, Katie, who was the name? Ingrid, Katherine was the first one on, Paula Jones, Kristen, Katie, you know, just shout out to that. These are the guys who are on, but they're so fun reading you guys, talk back and all of them to each other. So whenever I, like, zone out and start staring at the screen, it's not important to you guys. We're reading you guys. But anyway, yeah, so Amanda, look, I'm totally happy. I hope that Amanda marries him. I hope that he's not a fame whore, because I know they haven't known each other long, and I also know that it takes Bravo, like, a million years to develop crappy Bravo shows. And so I have a feeling that she already had this, though, when she started dating him. You know, I'm, you know, if I were to ever be on a crappy Bravo reality show, I would want somebody to want to get with me because they were a fame whore, too. Yeah. That's all I want. I don't know. Don't you want someone to love you for you? Nobody's going to love me for me. Have you watched this? Have you watched this podcast? No one's going to love me for me. Good point. Why am I not? Oh, my God. It's, like, blessed Union of Souls. She loves me. You guys are right. And no other. You guys are right. I should stop that. I'm here. I'm here, Ben. I'm here. Thank you. I didn't want to get that, Matt. Matt. Oh, my God. Maybe I can love you for you, because you get when I sing, she loves me for me. Can you give me another one? I just want another line of it. Can I get another line of it? That is awful. Stop it. I need another line. Motherfucker, we have to listen to you sing show tunes. So we're allowed to sing show tunes. You do not. I was on your show tune in weeks. Ronnie's feeling very on my own. Stand in and beside me. You guys can make fun of show tunes when you want. But they make the world a happier place. That's the only show tune I know, because Katie Holmes sang it as a song. Katie Holmes sang it as Joey Potter in a very special episode of Dawson's Creek. I know like a small collection of show tunes, I guess you could say. I'm not, I don't have an extensive repertoire like Ronnie, but, you know, I know some guys and dolls and some Brigadoon and- Can we get to the bridge in the holla? Okay, first of all, who told this show it was okay to waste carbs like that? You don't just go throw bread into the ocean, like who the fuck does that? Who eat those ducks? Those ducks are having the best day ever. You know, like fat ducks. Those ducks are like, "Yeah, I really love Yunga Boa." That's why there's so many duck poop around Jewish communities. No, those ducks were probably like, "Oh, where's the locks?" They're like, "Oh my God, I can't believe you think so many cabs." You never even get married by the time you're two years old. Oh my God, I would totally watch us spin off the ducks of that pond in Long Island. Oh my God, well, first of all, they all sound like babs, that's for sure. That's correct. By the way, that's how I do my babs. For people who wonder how I do my babs impersonation, now you get to see, I have to cover one notch. Amanda, how are you going to get married? You only met them for one year. Drop your face down and find- Amanda, I don't watch you moving out of my hand now. I'm your mother, Amanda. You're my own flesh and blood. You can't get married. Amanda, go up to my room and get my tree. You're not going to find the devil because it's covered in a drink, can't you? Stop, don't make that face. Don't make that face. Don't make that face, Ronnie. Don't make that face. Amanda, don't get your sister. I think she's been stopping her. Drinking up a private camp again, Amanda. Amanda, pass those passes, wishbone salad dress into a guest, Amanda. You will always write Amanda. Amanda, I think I saw you. I think I saw you promise ringing a hat cap back. Amanda, it looks nice. Oh my god. Amanda, can I be the stripper to catch the red party? I'm going to wear zebra print pants, the leopard print crap top. Me and me, they got it from warehouse while working. Great, Nick and me and you. Amanda! Amanda, you're not going to get married. I don't know. Hey, you know the things I love, Babs. Babs is like my favorite. We make Babs a lot of Babs. I love Babs. I like Amanda too. I think Amanda seems like a good person. To get back to the ducks and the tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau-tau. Ben, did Chanel make that up or is that a thing? It's a real thing. Not everyone does it. So here's the thing, they're all standing around there and they're all talking about ways they can prove things that are done wrong. I have to say to everyone's credit, including Casey, everybody took some accountability about some of their actions. They said Erick was like, "Well, I guess I could be better. I'm like, "Sorry, I really got that to you." You know, and then Joey said, "You know, I know we're in a bad place now, but I hope down the line, whatever." They all actually said nice things. Except for my archfists. Except for Casey. No, even Casey. Even Casey. No, she didn't. No, she didn't. Everything that came out of Casey's mouth was, "Well, I learned a lot about myself that I'm perfect." But she said, "I wish I had come to Eureka sooner rather than let it faster." She took a little bit of accountability. No, no, no, no. I'm sorry, you guys, that I'm true to my friends and that if anybody messes with my friends, I'll kill them. I'm really sorry about that. That's not an apology. Again, it's like I'm so loyal to a fault. Again, it's like I'm sorry you're fat. But what I'm trying to say is, if you listen to my argument, I'm sorry that you feel I'm not listening to you. You feel that that was a genuine apology? I did. The point is that Casey at least had a shred of accountability about something. No. No. She did say, "No." No. No. Now we have Ashley here. Ashley with green hoop urine. What I'm trying to say is, she took at least, she said, "Listen, Eureka, I wish I had come to you sooner or better." Okay? She said one little thing. Okay. Ashley was like, you know, you guys reflect now. I reflect every single night. She sticks her penguin hands. I reflect every single night. Okay? Every single night. And I just hope you guys can get to where I am right now. Ashley, it was even worse because she was like, "I'm glad that you guys can reflect the five minutes with throwing some bread in the water. I, on the other hand, reflect every night before I go." Every night. Every night. How many mirrors does that bitch work in reflecting shit? Shit, Ashley! To be fair, her house is covered in like, silvery surfaces. So she literally reflects. She doesn't think. She just looks and sees her reflection everywhere. Do you guys think that these girls went on this show like the single ones thinking, "Oh, this is going to make us famous. We're going to get boyfriends from this because I guarantee you right now, Ashley will be single for the rest of her life because she just proved to the story." She just proved to the 700,000 viewers watching this piece of shit show that she is the worst person ever. She is. She is. Now she's one of those girls that everybody growing up is like, "You're so funny, honey. You're so funny." Because she was always making some nine comments on somebody. So instead of saying, "You're a cunt and your parents should have drowned you," they're saying, "Oh, you're so funny, honey." She's a funny one. And so she's like, "I'm funny, look at it." "I'm funny, that's funny, look at it." "I'm funny, look at it." "I'm funny, look at it." "I'm funny, look at it." "I'm funny, look at it." "I'm funny, look at it." "I'm funny, look at it." "Well, you've been..." Ronnie just said that you should have a stroke and be drowned. Listen. Well, this is funny. Anybody, the abortion debate still raises on because people are all upset that people are affording babies like after they're born. If anything will get you on that side, it's Ashley. How about the abortion? Make it legal people. Get it with a club court. So anyway, that's what the real fun part was then. So Ashley says this whole self-serving thing that's not even an apology. She talks about her stroke and yada, yada, yada. So then I love that Amanda, probably our favorite maybe. She's like, she very calm. She's like, "Ashley, we didn't know where you were." She's like, "No offense. You're a good grown woman, Ashley." And she's right. Ashley's grown woman. Well, she's so full of everybody else. She's like, "I had health issues." Oh, that's bad. She's like, "Well, I've had health issues. You know, I had a stroke last year. You guys just left me there. You left me." They did not leave you. You left. You left. And then Amanda said to her, "You put yourself in the harm's way, you dumb fuck." Yes, she said, and then she's like, and look, she's like, "It's not like we're talking." She's like, "We were gone for like 15 minutes, 30 minutes. It's not like we're at a milk carton situation." And that's when Ashley goes, "God forbid. God forbid." You know, everybody hands on that way. You can even do this one. God forbid that would have happened to me. It's like, what are you talking about? Her actual quote was, "Oh, you know what? I'm proud of myself for not being on a milk carton." What the fuck? Well done. Well done. Proud of myself. Someone on our Facebook put, "Do they put 30 year olds on milk cartons?" When they are four foot two, maybe. Hey girl, I feel like little people were getting so far ahead in the world, thanks to TLC. You have destroyed the work that TLC has done all these years last night. I totally thought you meant T-band TLC, and I was like, what is that? What the fuck TLC? Do they really even do that on that show? I don't know about that, so they get cups on that show. But that's how I imagine. I imagine they drive in the kitchen with a little car and they're like, "Everyone out! Let's pile on top of each other and get a big old cup from up on the top shelf." Preferably as far as cup. Can I just insert one? Can I just do one thing right now? Yes. Hashtag. Ready? Mall snaps. I don't know what that was, but I'm down for it. Mall snaps. Clearless. Oh yeah. Do you guys not remember recording in Fox Hill's Mall's last week in the food court? We had a moment. I was eating. That's why I look like this. I was thin before Fox Hill's, and I look at me and guys are rushed. Okay, Ben, we've cut you off 20 times trying to say you're, God, look at this. I was just trying to be a good swimmer. Don't do that. That's bad. I was just trying to, I feel bad for everyone who's listening just because they're like, "What's going on?" He's pulling at the skin under his chin, everyone. Is this gross? You guys, if you want to watch this, either come to our Facebook page, watch with Crapins, or on YouTube at the TV click because that shit's fun. It's fun to watch. And it's also fun because Matt knows that his angle is profile. What are you talking about? That's a whole thing like this. He's like, "If you think Mariah Cherry's bad, okay, what are you referring to?" I don't know what you're saying. He's like one big brother when Julie Chen asks her to ask guests, and she sort of has to cheat and look at whatever. But so after the milk garden thing, didn't Amanda come back to Ashley with some amazing response about, the point is that Amanda was right. As she was a grown woman, she put herself in that situation. She wouldn't have been in a milk cart, and she's just being totally ridiculous. I'm sad that she had a stroke. I actually am sad that she had a stroke, but you know what? She's also like, "You're the sad." I'm sorry that people in a hospital had to take care of her. Can you imagine her in the fucking hospital? I'm sorry that her parents didn't believe in federal court. She's like, "Hold on one second, can you take the ambulance back?" "I left my sheets at my parents' house." Oh my god. Ew. Ew, I see bodily fluids everywhere. That girl is terrible. I loved that in that fight, the girls really did. Amanda especially really stuck up for themselves and did not let Ashley, they were nice about it, but they didn't let Ashley turn this around. They didn't all start kissing her, Erica did, but most of them first. Eric did it for a second, but Joey and Amanda stood their ground. But that's a thing. And it turned Ashley around, because at the end, she was like, "Well, let's let bikons be bikons. I'm a forget father." No, no, no. They all still hate each other, nothing was resolved, but they knew they were shooting the finale, so they had to do the group hug. That's the only thing that happened, but we know they fucking hate each other. So is this show going to get picked up? What do you think? Because I think that there's no way in hell, but... The ratings? I would love it too, but I don't think it will. It started strong, but the ratings totally faltered and it came in around the gallery girls' numbers, which we know what happened there, so I'm really nervous. They have not committed to picking it up, especially when they have stuff like OC last night, hit season highs with 2.5 million viewers. It's just like, at this point on Bravo, if you can't pull in a million, you're probably not coming back. The truth is this. I'm sorry to say this, but there's a lot of anti-Semitism in this country. I'm not trying to pull the Jewish card. I'm not trying to be like that, but the truth is... You're right. There is actually a lot, and so a lot of people when they see these girls, they're not amused by them. Like, when we see these crazy guidos under the shore, or when you see some crazy black people on Real Housewives of Atlanta. For a lot of people, they say, "This is what's wrong with the Jews, and I hate these spoiled rats." I really do believe people say that, and it's a shame because... But isn't there a show for everybody like that now? Like, the Persians are on Shaz, the Jews are on this, the Italian. Oh, God, that's not gay, so the A-list on a logo. They canceled that, thank God. Oh, Ronnie, just think about this. Any gay person on any reality show is typically horrifying. Did you guys watch the A-list? Can I break in with a little A-list story that you're going to love? Okay, so gay pride, I have a friend who is a friend of Derek, who is on the A-list. I think New York, he was really good on it. Yeah, he had the flippy hair. Yeah, he was horrible, he was the one who was always fighting with the big hot one, and someone threw a drink in someone's face. I don't know, I think that was him. Anyway, I remember that he was on that show, and he was a horrible human being. Okay, so anyway, gay pride, I'm hanging out with my little group of gays, and he's along because he's friends with all my friends. I did not recognize him, but I had seen him sitting outside of a stool at Fubar one night, like maybe a month ago. So I was like, "I know you from somewhere." And he's like, "I don't know." You know, because he's that kind of gay. And I was like, "No, no." I said, "You're the doorman." I said, "You're one of the doorman at Fubar." And he's like, "No, not." "What?" "No, not." I was like, "You are." I saw you sitting out there, and then one time I saw you walk into your car, like right by Fubar, and he's like, "What?" "No, I'm not." My friend's like, "Ronnie, just don't." You know, "Who cares, don't." Too late, Ronnie. But of course, I'm drunk, 'cause it's gay pride, and we're walking like a mile to the homeland, like to the center of West Hollywood. We're just all walking, and I'm drunk. So I wouldn't let it go. And the whole time, I'm like, "Oh my God, you're so adorable." Why don't you admit that he's a doorman at the time? I'm like, "Just me, man." So now that guy hates me. So sorry gay guy from A-List, but you made us all look horrible, so I'm glad I got to make you feel like shit for one day. Jerk. Okay, that's off. You're shit. Speaking of shit, are we going to watch Eat Drink Love? I will, because I... You kind of know some girl on it. I don't really know Cat O'Dell. I have exchange emails with her, because every now and then I'll send a link for my blog, and I'll be like, "Hey, maybe you could relate it with this." I think that it would be inappropriate for you not to watch it and name drop constantly. I am going to watch it. Well, remember I told you. I think I told you this a few months ago. Put your finger down. Get your finger out of my face. Okay, I told you this a few months ago. Thank you. I went out to dinner with my friend who told me, and then he's like, "Oh yeah, he produced this show that was in development bravo," and he said that Cat O'Dell. He said, "She's psycho." And she's very unlikable, and they had a real tough time working on the show, or building the show, because she was so unlikable that they had to do some massive, massive retooling, so I'm intrigued by that. There are also a lot of people in the food blogging world. Some of this very love-hate thing with Cat O'Dell, because for those of you who don't know, she is the editor for Eater LA, which is a big food blog out here. And so people like her, or they can sort of ask because she gets the link love, but a lot of times people hate her. A lot of girls hate her because she's pretty. And all the people don't like her because they don't play. She does a good job. Oh my God, if this is what the show is like, I've already put a gun in my mouth. How boring. I'm telling you, it's going to be so good. Someone posted this on our page, which was so nice, and it was a link. Bravo's Eat Drink Love is Bad for Women. The food world is not bad. I posted that. Oh, someone also posted it on our listener. Okay. The point is this. Thank you, Ben. We're going to watch it. We're going to try it. We're going to see what happens because we have to give it a go. But the point is this. The Real Housewives of Motherfucking Miami are coming back next week. No, wait, wait. Hold on. I have some more of this girl show to talk about. Okay. I got two seconds before I'm bouncing. So go. Really? Okay. This food show. So in that article, in that article, they're talking about this Eater L.A. chick that she's fucking all the people from the restaurant she gives these review to. Yeah. Totally unprofessional because she's giving people good reviews who she's fucking. And she brags about it. Like she's very proud of being like a horror blogger or something. If she. I mean, to me, this sounds like an amazing. I'm so watching it. Yeah. That sounds amazing. I'm in totally in. I'm just the question is, is it going to be our next dog girls or is it going to miss advice? No way. Is it going to be the next car? Nothing can be the next dog girls. Oh, another one goes to credit. So too much credit. Uh, no we don't. We give it needs more credit. Um, uh, if you come onto our Facebook page, someone posts the pictures of Liz from Gagirls and she seems to have had some surgery done. Boobies. And I think a little cheek something. Boobies. Boobies shimmy. And if I'm what fame does. So go ahead. Fame is what Daddy does. Like her dad who's so mean to her. He's like, okay, you're still not on heroin. Great. Here's some boobs. Enjoy. Happy Hanukkah. Whatever. So let's move on to, um, Matt, you wanted to move on to what? He wants to move on to his date. Yeah. I got the shower. He wants to move on to some penis. So. No, but there was another show you were about to bring up. I was just going to say that Miami is coming next week and I'm very excited. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And someone already said apparently the show is already on, on demand and someone wrote on our Facebook page just before this podcast that Leah is definitely getting a harsh edit. So there's that also, by the way, are you guys watching Top Chef Masters? Because I am and I'm enjoying it. Okay, look, here's my thing with Top Chef Masters. I turned it on. I watched it. Can I like leave now? Yeah, bye. Bye. I don't mean it like that. I didn't mean it like that. I hate this video. You can see my attitude. Bye. Bye. Love you. Bye. Bye. Malbias. So anyway, yeah, this Top Chef Masters. I'm watching it. I do not understand why it's not interesting. Like, if I get that they can't give them a bad edit and just make it all of them being characters, but I don't want to watch a show where people are just running, running around. Like, if it's going to be about professionals, show me what they're cooking. Tell me how they're making it. I'm more of a cooking show because I can't watch stupid people running back and forth. Like, they don't show anything except they're running through grocery stores. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. I enjoy it. I think I want them to go back to the star system that they had. I thought the second season of Top Chef Masters, they really got it down. The star system was fun because it's different than regular Top Chef. And we also had Gail Green, who I loved. I love James Osland. I like that Gail Simmons on this one. I hate Curtis Stone. Kelly Choi, her first season was awkward and stiff. The second season, she loosened up. Now, I mean, it's-- People haven't seen any proof that this Curtis guy can cook anything. Like, he's famous cooking. He's opening a restaurant. He's opening a restaurant in LA. I read that on your LA. Oh, see, it all comes together. Oh, so we know who he's fucking. I don't think he's cute enough for them. I think he's cute enough for that attitude. I really don't. I don't think he is. Because we live in a land of really cute people. But to me, it's like, drop the attitude. You're semi-at-best. I agree. And I told the story before. There was one time when I was covering the red carpet for some stupid Bravo event. And he comes up and I had to go to potluck later that night. And I said, "Curtis, what should I make for my potluck?" And he's like, "Oh, I was like, what do you have in your refrigerator?" I'm like, "I don't know. Probably some veggies or whatever." He's like, "I don't know. Make a sale. Maybe feel some beef and put it on top." "I don't know. You like it." And then Padma comes up and I was like, "Padma, what should I make for my potluck?" She's like, "Oh, okay, here's what you should do. This recipe's really good. You gotta check in and you put the 7th and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." It was like, he was such an asshole and she was so nice that I'm forever team Padma over team Curtis Stone. Although I've heard about that. I am too. I think his personality sucks. He can barely read a cute card. I've seen no proof that he can cook. And I don't like it when he doesn't like somebody. He gives him dirty looks. I've noticed that he does this with homily girls. I mean, he's really a straight guy. I don't think that guy's gay at all because that's a different kind of mean. But I've noticed if he's talking to a fat girl or somebody that he doesn't really like, he just looks at them with this look of disgust. That guy's gross. I can't watch that show. And I don't know. I don't trust really anything that they make and they make it. And it's like, "Great. A really talented chef made something. I barely even know what it is. The only reason I know what it is is because there's a label I've watched you guys stress that and run around fucking grocery store a whole food for an hour. Thanks." Someone told me this story. They ran into Wolfgang Puck. Maybe they went to Slager or something like that. And Wolfgang Puck came to the table. And they were like, "Oh, wow. We sang on Top Chef because he was a judge on this thing." And Wolfgang Puck was like, "Oh, all the food is awful there. It's awful food. You have to say you like it, but it's awful." Yeah. You have to pick something you like. But how can it possibly be good? They're like, "You have an hour to make an Italian feast. I remember my mom's a chef and the first year the show was on. I was watching the finale in Texas at home. And that girl, Tiffany, I will never forget this, made gnocchi." And my mom was like, "Nyocchi, how long did they just say they have an hour?" And I said, "Yeah." She goes, "You can't make gnocchi in an hour. You've got to peel the potatoes, boil the potatoes, put them through a ricer, cool them." Like, there's a lot of shit. You can't just make that in an hour. There's something fishy about it. So either it's rigged or it's just glops of crap that they're tasting. Yeah. Well, remember when we went and we had all those crappy desserts? We went so bad that day because you were so nice to take me. You were the one who had the invitation to take me. You were so sweet to take me. We went to Top Chef just desserts and it was like that art show. They were doing something in a distillery that was changed into an art show. It was changed into an art show or something. And it was a sweet and savory challenge. So they had to take beans and make chili beans and make dessert out of them. And the minute I heard that, I was instantly annoyed. And I'm not the kind of person who can just be like grouchy, but hide it. If I'm grouchy, I'm just miserable. And I was like, "Oh, God." And we watched everything we tasted. I was like, "Grouches are nasty." And you're just so happy to be there. And we had falafel, Panacata, and I remember it was so bad. But you know, another time I got to go to Top Chef Masters as a taster. I think I probably mentioned this before on this show. And I went with our friend Michelle Collins. And it was the episode where the Top Chef Masters took over a fast food restaurant. And honestly, almost all the food was just really bad. Because they didn't know what they were doing. They were out of their element. Although, I was lucky enough to have a bite of the wing dish, which was what's her face. One of the two got tamales. Not Susan Fenniger, but the other one. Maristu Milliken. She made it. She made some sort of quesadilla thing. And when they show, when the judges are deliberating it, they cut to me, stuffing my face with it. And I go, "Tender, delicious." And so every time that show airs, people text me. They're like, "I think I just like on Bravo." I just want to announce really quick while we're on this podcast. We're going along. It's our second podcast. And at this point, I'm just, I have no focus. So if you were just your crowd. I don't know. I want to ask you something. I want to ask you something. All right. Do you watch Food Network Star? Yes. Let's talk about this. Oh, my God. Please. Because it's another cooking show. I know it's not Bravo, but whatever. Just hang up if you don't like it, everybody. Not even. I don't know. Is any of these people going to have a show? They're all terrible. Okay. I don't even know where to begin. Okay. So first of all, the one person there who had anything that was close to an interesting idea was Nikki Dinkie with her idea, which was Meat on the Side, which was such a great idea. You know, Food Network needs some sort of something that's like healthy oriented, but it's not like Ellie Kruger or whatever name was where it's just like crazy healthy. It's just like here's where to make cook vegetables. And that's like a thing that people are interested in now. Farmers markets are bigger than they ever have. And tons of vegetable, vegetarian cookbooks. People are discovering, you know, one of the latest issues of Food and Wine magazine, the cover says vegetables are the new bacon, you know? And I kind of believe that. This is such a great-- I'm going to take this one. It's all about vegetables. Yeah. It's such a great idea. And then they have her up against Stacy, who is not great, but she's-- Wait, let's stay on Dinkie for a minute. Okay. This girl, I think her problem was she came off as an ice queen, but I think her biggest problem, and also she didn't know what rice peel off was. I mean, to be able to say that to say that on the-- Do you think that fucking high style knows what rice-- No, that's the thing. They're all stupid. Like none of them are good. They're all idiots on that show. I'm not rooting for anyone. But also her other big problem, that Dinkie girl, is Giada. I don't know if you notice this, but Giada hates girls. She's a girl hater. So only women she will be nice too are older women who aren't pretty. Like that Melissa Doretian who's the mom who cooks for everything under $10. Like that white trash chick. Giada liked her, okay? Because she's no competition. But any pretty girls-- Well, no, there's not much happening. Do you know, do you know Ally Ward? She's in the comedy scene out here in LA. She and her friend Georgia, they did a bar over there. Yeah, yeah, I know Georgia, hard start. Yeah, I know Georgia. So they now have a show on the cooking channel that Giada uses. Giada took them under her wing. So there is an exception there. But I will say there's-- That's a weird show, right? What is that show? What do they make? Drinks? They contrast it. They make it. They go around places. They try to, then they try to recreate it. They're cool. Ally is really-- they're both sweethearts. They're great. Everyone should watch that show. Support those two girls. Yeah, they're super cute. They're like-- They're cooking channel. Yeah, they're cool. So anyway, Nikki Dinky, I'm sorry. I thought she had a good on-screen presence. Her point of view was great. Food network needs more cooking shows. I know people are like, they don't show cooking anymore, but they really like-- All they do is show weird competitions. It's really getting annoying now. Yeah. And they kept her-- I mean, they got rid of her and they kept Russell, whose POV doesn't even make sense. Like, I got the culinary sins. His pilot was, I'm going to go into an ice cream shop and take a vanilla ice cream and add bacon to it. Then it's a bacon-- the bourbon ice cream. I'm like, first of all, that's not original. Second of all, how long is your show going to be? Five episodes? Like, how many things can you add bacon to and make it still be appealing to anyone? And bacon is also a bacon. Yeah, so bacon is over. Like, bacon ice cream came out like five years ago. And it-- Obviously-- Maybe four years ago. Like, stop it with the bacon. Bacon does not taste like candy. We get-- like, bacon makes everything taste good. That's not fucking original, dude. Stop with your bacon. That guy is such an idiot. And he's like, "Listen, everybody, I'm the culinary rebel." Okay, that was last year's winner, the culinary rebel. And you know what, he made shit out of that? Like, sardine bones. Okay, that's a culinary rebel. That's interesting. Yeah, he was interesting. Also, it's like the biggest sellout ever. And every time I see him on a commercial on the Food Network, when they make him wear, like, flippers and a giant sea outfit, like, "Be all cute. See, I start laughing." And so I'm like, "You're not a rebel. You're a fucking sellout." So-- Exactly. What's up with this guy is-- There's nothing rebellious about using butter and fucking cream. Bacon. Bacon. Okay. It's called Fat America. That's why we're all fat. It's like, you know this? It's not because I'm being rebellious. This is typical. You fucking idiot. And why is it a sin? Like, those are actually staples of cooking for centuries. And there's-- and it's on here. You're so bad on here. This is him. He goes like this. I'm Russell. And I'm here to tell you about the culinary sins. So let's go. And there. And like, that's what it's like. You're like, "Huh." That guy is terrible. And I love Food Network. And I just-- that guy is so hard to watch. The Recapper on Trash Talk TV is actually really, really good. She's very funny, which I love because I don't watch all the shows. We recap, you know. But I love reading her recaps. And she hates him so much. She is just always ragging on him. And, you know, we tweet a line or two from the show. And a lot of the lines are about him. And so he's tweeting us back every-- what he used to. He used to tweet us back every week, taunting us like, "Yeah, but I'm still here." It's like, "You're still here because whatever they're casting people are, don't take into consideration obviously your camera presence. The guy's never formed a complete sentence. And he can't cook for crap. And he's wearing a mohawk with a bald spot. Stop with the bald hawk. Stop at your bald. Save it. Stop." So, and then our third, our next person is that we have Rodney. What's his face? Who is... Hey, Yo, stop. Hey, Jack. Hey, Jack. Hey, Jack. First of all, he's like, he's like, "Take the worst of Guy Fieri. Mix with the worst of Nadia's bad ass kitchen. Whatever her stupid ass. I hate that shit." Oh, Nadia's bits in kitchen. Oh, my God. Hey, I'm Nadia. Hey, you can get you. Hey, you can get dumped by a door. Do you know what's good? Let's pretend we got dumped by a dude. Let's put some whiskey and some pancakes. Hey, man. Are you looking cute? Whoa. So, that's all this pie style, guys. Like, he can't completely... He can't articulate anything. Okay. So, he keeps on saying, "Hey, pasta. It's taking over the country." I'm like, uh, what? I'm in this country. I don't know. I have not, like, pie style. It's not taking over any country. So, then he has his pilot that he has to do. He's like, "Okay. Here's the idea. I'm going to go into a restaurant." They cook something, and then they're going to challenge me to see if I can make a pie out of it. And I'm going to make a pie out of it. And I'm like, "Who the fuck cares if you make a pie out of it? Who cares if there is a pie version of grilled cheese sandwich?" But you know the worst. Okay. It wins anything. No one gets anything. Who cares? He didn't even have that idea. Okay. This is what kills me. They have to go in front of the panel of judges and pitch their show idea, right? No one has an idea. His idea is, okay, so I'm going to go to restaurants and I'm going to eat whatever they say. And then I'm going to talk about it. And they're like, "That's not a cooking show. We're going to walk in and just talk to them about the restaurant." Yeah. They all pitch a diner's drive-ins and dies where you just walk in and talk to people. "Bitch, as you're on a cooking show, at least pretend you're going to cook on the network." So, he walks in and he pitches something where he doesn't even have to cook. So, Bob, the network head, who, by the way, you're doing a horrible job. And so, Bob is like, "No, Rod, why don't you make it where you make a pie out of anything?" He gets on the idea and then he goes, "Like, if you go into a Thai place, you can make a Pad Thai pie." Who the fuck wants a Pad Thai pie? Are you crazy? That being said, so when he does this pilot, I'm like, "Well, I hope he makes that fucking Pad Thai pie." Because that's so bonkers, I would actually be interested to see how that turns out. So, it makes a grilled cheese pie, so it just puts cheese and beef in a pie crust. It's like, this is the stupid, you know what that's called? It's called a meat pie. They exist already. You know what? This morning, can I tell you something? I have to confess something. This morning, I was thinking, "I love that you're so stressed that you're holding your Botox." You touched on something here, Rod. This morning, okay, I had the worst of both worlds happen to me. I was eating oatmeal, and I got these dates, okay? And I put some dates in the oatmeal. I've seen them in the story. No poop. I'm eating them, and I start thinking about dates and thinking about, "Oh, you know, I really like our bacon wrap dates." It's like, "No, it won't be a fun way to incorporate bacon and dates into some dish." And I thought, "Oh, I think you could probably put them in a key shell." I was like, "Oh my God, I'm doing pie style, but I'm using Russell's culinary sins." I was like, "I hate myself right now." No! No! And I did put bacon in my oatmeal, and I hated myself for doing that, and it tasted good, but I'm like, "I hate this," because Russell was like, "Ooh, look, it's like culinary sins." No, no, they did it! Well, I'm totally in your house now, guys, because that's how I roll. Like, I'm totally in your house. Yeah, Sam's culinary sins there. Meanwhile, it's amazing. Maybe, meanwhile, this woman's Stacy. She's a little, sort of, like, antiseptic, but she's good on camera. She has a decent idea, which is, you know, go in and basically modernize, you know, old recipes or things like that. And of course, I love, you know, I love Susie Ferguson. As soon as I suppose, like, hmm, feels a bit sad. Feels a bit sad. I don't feel like... Yeah, yeah. I love Susie Ferguson at the best, but Downs are like just like ice cold corporate, but Downs like... I want to be along with you on that journey, but I realized it had a plateau. I'm sorry, I couldn't... My favorite is there was one season, I need a pen for this. There was one season, but Susie went Kelsey was on. Kelsey, remember Kelsey? She was on Rachel Ray, and she was... She and Rachel Ray were having some awkward moment, and Susie Ferguson was watching her behind, and she was watching. She was like, "This feels uncomfortable." She just dropped her pen. She was just like... Just dismissal. Like, it's like the Susie Ferguson dismissal. It's like my favorite thing. And that's also what I hate about this season. No Susie Ferguson all year. Well, I know that that's a rough job because they actually have real full-time jobs. So to be a judge every single episode, like, I get it. My thing is like, it's embarrassing for the channel because it's been a few years now where I just don't get what they're doing. Like, I get it, you know, it used to be that they would say, "Okay, so you can't cook. You've got a good personality. We'll give you writers and you'll just make whatever they..." I mean, they basically said that to a couple of the people, you know, in different words. But now, you don't even have to have a good personality. I mean, Rodney, when is he made anything that's even good? Like, can anybody tell me that? He made the bacon ice cream, which I guess was okay. And I think I remember making... Yeah. Where he made one other thing, and they were like, "Oh, this is actually good." They were shocked that it was good. And he's in the top three. Like, the guy is terrible. Here's the problem with Food Network these days. And I hate to... I've never been this sort of person. I was like, MTV doesn't blame music anymore. Food Network only has, like, crab cooks. But I really... I've been pushed to a point with Food Network because it used to be... In the morning and during the day, they would show a cooking show. They would show, you know, like Jada, Aina, Paula Deen, Rachel Ray. All these... They had tons of cooking shows. And at night, they would sort of do more competition shows. But then they... Somewhere along the way. And I actually blamed Bifery. They decided they really wanted more of a male audience. And since then, they've been really upping their competition shows. These restaurant impossibles, everything. Taking over, undercover this, undercover that. And it's kind of like... It's terrible. There's so many of this. There's so many of this. I love Chef Wanted with Amberrell. I think that is so good. I would say that. I like to see that. I like to see that. It's okay to have the competition shows. And we all have chops. I mean, I like the ones where they're actually cooking. But mostly, like, restaurant impossible. They're not cooking. Like, what is that? The thing is they've got too many of these like Rodney and muscle types where they're like trying to be like badass, but they're not at all, really. It's like, you know what? Like, if we never really shines and we get someone like Ina on there or Jada or Alton or Bot. Like, just... Yeah, but the thing is, is that they stopped getting talent. Like, everyone... Look, Paula Dean was on there for eight zillion years. Ina. Like, I used to tape all of these shows. I'm a huge Food Network fan. So, I've watched all the shows that you mentioned. But they're all the same over and over. Like, I've seen Anne Burrell make fucking, speaking of gnocchi. I've seen her make it like 20 times. Like, there has to be some fresh, there has to be some fresh blood. Oh, yeah. They haven't had... a cooking star. And they even have this show now. What season is this? That they've been finding stars. The only person to find any success out of this from what I have seen is Melissa DeRavian, right? Who else is even out of success? Well, Guy. But I've seen them were stuck on, like, Saturday morning when no one's watching, you know. Well, they are given terrible contestants. Now, I will say, I do enjoy, uh, of what's left. I like Demeris the most. And her show was about cooking and... What does Demeris really have? I mean, Demeris is a cute southern girl who talks about being a whore. Demeris is another girl who has never cooked anything fucking good. We like her because she's the least... The girl can't make fucking mashed potatoes. I mean, come on now. I mean, like, girl, it's like, we like her because she's the least terrible, but... Yeah. At the end of the day, she's terrible. And now I have to watch a show where she's trying to, like, talk about dating with people. Yeah. Girl, please. And I think... And here's the other thing. Like, at the end of every one of her shows, the guys... Oh, the girl's always gonna be like, "Oh, my God. I love you now." Because if she says, "Oh, you know what? Like, I didn't really like this. I'm not really interested in you." Then it just credits all of her food. So, you know, the food, they have to get like that. I mean, stage, obviously, but... They need that. It's like, it's all about a man. And by the way, how many southern cooking shows do we really need on the Food Network? I mean, we have... I feel like everyone's cooking southern food. You know, Ina Garten is the only one who seems to be cooking anything that's, like, vaguely, you know... Oh, God. Have you seen Bayon Airwoman? Oh, I like Bayon Airwoman. She's like the red state. She's the red state Ina Garten. 'Cause she has an asshole. She has an awful... Yeah, she's an asshole. She's an asshole. I like ours. These chicken wings have an Asian glaze. What's going on with that? This is crazy time, you know? These wings are driving terrible. Some of the two cheese wings had to drive. And on their magic world. I don't know. I don't know. I don't get that. But I don't understand this whole thing on Food Network of you. You've got to have this, like, scene. Like, get on, cook something. Why does it have to be, like, a thing, you know? Well, no. Like, the girl who stays to you is like, "I'm going to take vintage things and make them modern." First of all, that was a contestant last year who got kicked off. So that's not an original theme. Yeah. She was terrible. Just make some good food. How about that? I think, yeah. How about this? Why don't they do... Here's a crazy idea. Why don't they get, like, an Asian cooking show on Food Network? How about that? That's like a whole world. Yes, please. That would be great. And they actually have a good time with Asian girl. We have, like, five a time. Yeah. Debbie Lee, right? Yeah. She was really, really good. And I saw her at Umami Burger. And I was like, "I love you on Food Network Star." And she was like, "No, she's cool. She's cool." And it's like the right hand of you. And someone died whenever I shot. Debbie, give me your hand. No, we like Debbie. She was probably mad because the burgers were so tiny. You do, Mommy. All right. Let's take this. Who are you going to say is going to win Food Network Star? It's probably going to be a fucking pie style. It can't be. There's no way. I think it's got to be demerits. It's got to be demerits. It's got to be demerits. Yeah, I'm half reading gay demerits. Yeah, demerits. I mean, how did pie style get this far? How did he outlast Nicki Dinky? How did Russell outlast... How did the guy who won last year win? I mean, that guy's a fucking moron. The guy who makes a sandwich. I saw him on fucking Chopped. And he made a grilled cheese sandwich or something. I was like, "What?" What about, what about freaking... You know what? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Beat should have won this whole thing. Beat, but they wouldn't give it to him because his personality wasn't ready for TV. The guy beat Bobby Flay on Iron Chef. Give him a show. You guys can give him time on Saturday mornings when no one is watching all your stupid winner shows and teach him how to be on TV. The guy is the only person all season who could cook. Come on. I'm so mad. Now I'm getting really hungry. We've gone like... I'm on grade two, three hours. I've been practicing for three hours and I'm like... I'm going to strangle you right now. Yeah. So everyone who listened to us while we went wildly off the brand. Yeah. Thank you. And thanks for being here for to... Well, you haven't even seen the other podcast yet. But thanks for all three hours this week of listening to podcasts. We'll talk to you guys later. You can find whatever. Just come to our Facebook page. I don't even want to be anything. Facebook.com/watchacrapens. Love you. Bye. 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