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So to help us, we brought in a reverse auctioneer, which is apparently a thing. Mint Mobile unlimited! Premium wireless! Have it to get 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, just 15 bucks a month! So! Give it a try at mintmobile.com/switch. $45 up from payment equivalent to $15 per month. New customers on first three month plan only. Taxes and fees extra. Speed slower above 40 gigabyte CD-Tale. Hey everyone, welcome to Watch what Crapins. A podcast about all that Crap on Bravo that we love. I'm Ben Mandelker from bsideblog.com. You can find the @bsideblog on Twitter and Instagram and join me as always. Or Matt would field from Yahoo TV. Hi Matt. What's up? What's up? Matt is @lifeontheamless on Twitter and also on Instagram. And also joining us is Ronnie Karam from TV Gasm. Hi Ronnie. Hello everybody. Hello, hello. Ronnie is @TVgasm on Twitter. And what are you at on Instagram? On Instagram I'm Ronnie Karam. R-O-N-I-E-K-A-R-A-M, y'all. Did you ever figure out a way to get your face back on our Facebook page? So are we looking at Ronnie's Instagram or his Twitter from our Facebook. Instagram. No, it says Twitter. Oh, you know, I don't know. Everyone, pictures on Instagram you guys. I'm making an effort. Yeah. I think that we need a summer intern that knows IT. Yeah, I think so. And he should be good-looking. Oh, definitely ripped and maybe a little hair on the chest. Yeah, I'm dropping skills a lot. Yeah. So anyway, you can find our podcast online at facebook.com/watchwalkraphens. And you should all get into the mix there because we have 1,300 fans and growing. A lot of activity. We posted some lost footage from last week's episode that's on there now. Like, you can find stuff like that. That's what I'm saying. And we're also on Twitter at what crappins. So all very exciting things. Speaking of Instagram, Ben, is this like Asian guy looking over a mountain somebody you know or is that just a random picture of the view you were taking? I was taking a picture of the view and then he was just sitting right there and I liked the color of his shirt. I thought it was- Wait, wait, wait, wait. Ben, are you now into Asian dudes? This is like throwing me off. I'm open to Asian dudes. Yeah, sure, why not? I was not taking a picture out of adoration of this guy. Well, and you also weren't taking a selfie, which is a rare thing for you. Excuse me, if you go on to your Instagram dot com page Matt with Field, the entire cover is like a collage of you. Do you realize this? For me, it's like you get some food. I am owning it. And I will probably owning it just like quad. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Anyway, by the way, I just want to really brief a serious note. One of our big time listeners who comments a lot on Facebook, Nicole Rand, we heard, was in the Boston Marathon yesterday and she's okay, but we just want to say glad you're okay and to you know, everyone who's okay, glad you're okay and to those who are suffering, you know, obviously our hearts and thoughts go out to you. So, and we need to also pronounce your name properly. Yeah. Nicole Jean Rond. I thought it was Nicole Johan Rond. Oh, I call her Nicole Yohan Rond. I guess I guess it'll help us if we actually looked at her name. I call her NJR. I like that NJR. It's like MJ Mary J Mary J. Exactly. It's like Mary J Blash, but not at all. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of poorableness in the world. So with terrorism and then somebody got rice in the day in the government. So I don't think the house lives for being even more horrible than terrorists because I've watched all your shows this week. Shame on all of you. I just do want to say I was nervous like would people take it poorly for us to record this today? I mean, granted everything, you know, all the nightmare stuff went down yesterday, but I'm looking at recording this with you guys today as like my break from not having to watch the news. And I hope that our listeners out there, you know, take an hour, laugh with us. Let's be silly. You know, that's that's how I'm looking at it at least. You know, I had a feeling when I posted a picture on our Facebook page of Tamara's side boob last night and everyone really seemed to embrace it. I needed it and I needed it. I needed that flapjack, turducken, saggy, nastiness. And by the way, a big shout out to Sarah over who gave my favorite description of it when she said her boob looks like my hand under one of those really powerful hair and blow dryers. So true. That's a great, great description. If we're giving shout outs to some of our Facebook users, there's some woman named, I'm assuming it's a woman. Maybe it's a boy. Jamie, how do you spell J-A-I-M-I-E? I think that's a lady. Jaime Jaime? I don't know if it looks if he looks Hispanic than it's Jaime. I'm not clicking on the photo, but there's I think there's boys in the in the picture. Anyway, I just say this. This person is from outside near in the UK, but they just left the funniest thing on our Facebook page. And it says Lydia has teeth that could chew an apple through a tennis racket, but I would definitely fuck her husband. That's amazing. And so I responded, who are you? You're our new favorite for this book. Yeah, that you know, that's an amazing, amazing quote. Amazing observation. Yes. You know, we have exercises. Oh my god, I just went on to our Facebook page because you guys are talking about it and that side-boo picture is not okay. It's not okay. Oh my god, that looks like a chicken, like a little baby chicken with too much skin and brows on the sale rack. I actually think it looks like Carol Radzewell on Tamara's Rest. I think it looks like one of the little aliens since the Gorny Weaver's moon alien before it popped out of people. It looks like a really oversized ravioli. Oh my god, do not check boy our dome. Oh, here is your lesson for the week. If you've got big old implants, do not take them out once your skin stops. You know, once your skin loses elasticity. Okay, that is stupid. You're 20. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Lesson learned. Lesson learned. Before we dive into Tamara and the Real House buzz of Orange County, do you guys have any other gossip? I have a few things that I definitely want to discuss today. I have a few things in terms of over the weekend, I went to the taping of the bad thing. I want to ask you about all these pictures of you with Bravo stars. Yeah, so I went to the new now next awards here in Hollywood, which is logos, you know, award show thing. And of course, the who's who of gay celebrities, but shockingly, there weren't wasn't a huge Bravo representation. Really, all I saw was I saw Tabitha, Tabitha, from Tabitha's takeover, and Crikey. She was looking very tall and commanding. She was there to take over the awards. So I went up to her, I went up to her and took a picture with her. I was like, you mind if I take a picture with you? And she's like, Oh, sure. Take it. Take as many pictures you want. Excuse me. Did you not tell her about this podcast? I was scared. I was honestly, I was very scared to tell her I have interviewed her and her teeth are just as sharp as her scissors. So I do not blame you for not asking. You know, she's awesome. I love her, but I'm also very scared of her. And I wouldn't want her writing some very angry. She'll take over the podcast. She'll say, you know, your podcast, your podcast isn't friendly at all. It's not very funny. It's all about bitching and moaning. I've heard enough. I've seen enough. Give me the keys. I'm taking over the podcast. No, she wouldn't ask for the keys. She just asked for the password. What's the password I'm taking over? And that'd be amazing. We should actually have her do that. I know. I think it would actually do great things for the podcast. People tune in once one week. It's just Tabitha talking about here. And frozen yogurt shops. Okay, get to the point. Talk about it. Okay, so Reza was nice. I walked up to him and I told him that MJ lives across the street from me and he's like, Oh, so like when you see the party bus, you know that all the Persians are here. I was like, yeah, pretty much actually. And then, but yeah, I almost called the cops on them the other week because they were being so goddamn loud. Well, he was he was very nice, but he seemed like a little overwhelmed. Like he had this look on his face as if someone had just presented him with like a giant hideous piece of artwork or something like that. Big eyes and a smile that sort of seems to say, I don't know what to say at this very moment. Did you not have a dry cookie in your pocket or did you not offer up a furry armpit from a white boy? That was my mistake. I had soft batch. That's my head soft batch. That's a problem. And two year suit was not sleeveless so that you couldn't shake your pit in his nose. I know someone did ask him about that actually right in front of me. And he was like, Oh, and by the way, his boyfriend was with him. And his boyfriend is attractive and way out of Reza's league, way out of Reza's league. Well, clearly, Reza makes the money. So come on. Obviously, I also told Reza that I have family in Great Neck and that I've spent many passovers in Rosh Hashan is there. And he was like, Oh, and I was like. So stop talking for a second. I hope you I hope you took notes on that one. Hey, Ronnie, how do we how do we feel about Ben interacting with all of these bravo liberties and not mentioning our podcast once? Yeah, why didn't you? What the hell? The reason to make little cards. The reason why I didn't and and correct me if I'm I'm sorry. Did you mention the podcast when you went to the Shahza sunset season premiere party? I'm trying to remember if you did or not. Oh, snap B. I'm just just saying. And beat us and beat us and stand for Ben. No, but the reason why I didn't do it because I'm so mean. I don't want to be like, Hey, listen to my podcast where I call you to see we're 20 times in an hour. Well, you know what? The real reason why was because I was there as a guest of a friend and I didn't want to like this was I didn't feel like it was appropriate for me to be hawking my stuff. And especially if this is a podcast where Reza could listen to it and hate it and then get mad. I didn't want anything like that. You know, I hawked our podcast at an event that I was at on Saturday night with famous people. But you know, that's fine. Whatever. And which tell us tell us about it. Well, I went to Reda's birthday party. Reda plays Donna on Parks and Recreation. She had her birthday on Beverly Hills and I went with my friend Lori and had a glamorous time. You know, that's a good cake. That's what we're all friends with at least one fat girl because we got to have a party once here with a good cake. Yeah, exactly. It was actually mini cupcakes, which I am not a fan of, but she's so fabulous that I got over it real fast. So what did she say? So what'd you tell her about the podcast? That I'm a co host along with you two fabulous bitches. Yes, excellent. Well done. And is she gonna come on? She may. I mean, it's part of the NBC Universal Network. So it's synergy at work, baby. Well, Reda, we are ready for you. We are ready for Reda. And now she's like, yeah, nevermind. Like forget about that. She's like, I have to go about like people we saw this weekend. Yeah. If you don't have any celebrities, you're maybe going to get fired. Who did I see? I was out drinking all weekend. I had a rough weekend and I fixed it by drinking my face off. It was wonderful. Did you have a Sunday, fun day out in West Hollywood? I had a Friday Sunday, a Saturday Sunday, a Sunday and a Sunday fun day. You're still drunk. That sounds great. Kind of, actually. That might explain why I've been in bed so much the past couple of days, but it was so fun. I don't think I saw anybody famous, but I saw a lot of drunk men with no hair on their bodies. Oh, well, that's so fun. The West Hollywood's commitment to waxing. I mean, not one. I did not see even hair in nostrils. Is that why I'm single? Like, I have never done the waxing. I'm afraid of it. If you don't wax, you need to move silver. Like, yeah, I don't wax actually, but that's probably why I'm single. People don't have to work to wax. It's like, if you're, if you're a chunky, then it's like standing behind a bush. You have to grow hair. But if you're speaking of the nose hairs, though, I will say I do pluck all of my nose hairs out. I'm completely bare up there. You pluck them? All of them. They're gone. Oh, I trim them, but I don't pluck them. I tried to keep them weak because I was kind of drunk this weekend. I was like, shaving when I was shaving my face. I used the razor and I cut my nose. And now I've been telling everybody that Bueller bit my nose. This is clearly like season four of "Sear Genius" right here. Nose edition with Tabitha. Yeah, Tabitha. I've heard enough about your nose stories. I've taken over your nose. Before we start actually talking about bravo shows, sorry, people who are listening to talk about bravo shows. But you know how I'm always talking about fat, fat, fat. Like that's all I talk about. Well, I went to this fundraiser Sunday and guess what I won? Fat. I won Spanx. They do make man Spanx. They do. What did you win? I won a six month membership to Crunch. Oh my God. Well, you'll definitely have to laugh before you go in there. And you'll also need to wear maybe an outbreak bodysuit because there's a lot of grossness happening up in that locker room. Well, luckily they're giving out vaccines for that now. That is true. But again, that locker room at Crunch on Sunset can be scary. Well, I wouldn't know. It can also be fun. By the way, Ronnie, the showers there have this weird silhouette thing where you can kind of see through them. So that should be the next bravo show right there. The Crunch Shower. All their other shows are not doing so well, but Crunch Shower, I guarantee you'd have a solid fan base right away. Better ratings than the candy factory. Oh, poor candy. I will not be getting naked in public. Thank you. No, you'll be silhouetted. Jim. Yeah, you'll be silhouetted. Okay. So anyway, this is actually a podcast without Bravo. I have things to discuss. I have things to discuss. All right. Disgusting. Okay. So I'm obsessed with this real estate. I'm obsessed with real estate in general, but there's one called the Realist Docker. It's a hilarious blog. You need to check it out. The woman is to die for. Anyway, recently, I believe actually this afternoon, she posted that Sonya Morgan's townhouse went back up on the market for nearly $10 million. And they're saying that she's going to sell it because there was never a mortgage because when she was with her ex-husband, they paid for the house up front in cash, also around $10 million at that time over 10 years ago. So Sonya's going to get the 10 mil if she sells the house for the asking price. She's going to then have to pay off that $7 million debt that she has to that production company that took all of her money. And then she'll be left with maybe between $1.5 and $3 million, depending on price. Hopefully you got any taxes. So that's why I'm saying really not $3 million, but probably $1.5 million she'll have, which means then she should move to Atlanta because all those ladies are poor. No, she'll have 10 million minus 60%, so she'll be left with $4 million. And then she owed $7 million, so she'll still be in the red. She'll make royalties because clearly this penthouse or this townhouse is going to be donated to become the National Cobb Web Museum of New York City. And I'm sure they'll have tons of visitors. She'll just be making a dollar off of every ticket. It'll be great. That's the other hilarious thing. The one that runs this realist talker blog, she wrote, it's like any potential buyers beware because this woman had some serious water damage during that last hurricane. Well, she was single-handedly targeted by Hurricane Irene. I mean, she was the one that was. It was. It's true. She was the epicenter of all destruction. I can't even imagine what next season is going to be like with her talking about Sandy. Irene was bad enough. Sandy she'll just be like in a raincoat and a little canoe in her living room. Speaking of houses, did you guys see the photo that our friends, Stephanie, posted on our Facebook page about Chateau Chire. There's actually a photo from of the house as of April 16th. And I will say this, it is coming along further than I had expected. Whoa, it's like it's got like structure to it. There might be some drywall. It looks kind of like it's made out of paper mache. But you know, I'm short livable. I actually think it's pretty cute. It is. I'm surprised that no one has made a show for Chateau Chire. I just got to, yeah, no kidding. The house that couldn't. How is this her house? How does she afford this? This is so pretty. Well, the thing that we don't know is, Ronnie, we don't know that it's currently under construction or if that's just the shell and it's never going to be finished because the girl ran out of money. Or even if it's hers, maybe she just sold the plot of land. Right. That's very possible. Or, you know, she could be living inside that right now without electricity or plumbing. Yeah. It's sort of like the cut fitness studio. I will say it does look better than that nasty one-bedroom apartment that she was renting after Bob dumped her ass. Even though she had a Maserati like on the side. Oh yeah. She had a Maserati. She had an Aston Martin and a dumpy one-bedroom apartment on the outskirts of Atlanta. Well, if she were smart, she sold her Aston Martin and and funded Chateau Chire, which, you know, in Atlanta cost a solid, you know, $1.2,000. The Facebook is actually really good today. I'm looking at over while you two are yapping. Oh, well, clearly Ben and I have been the ones updating it. I love that people are. No, no, I'm talking about the users. I haven't even looked at the front yet. These are all the, these are all the listeners. The finale, I love that we're already getting Real Housewives of New Jersey finale scoop. That's hilarious. I'm not reading that. I do not like spoilers, Michael Cook. Don't want a spoiler? No, no. Okay. Well, for users that are listening right now, don't, don't click through because I read that whole goddamn thing that got posted and it pretty much gives away all of season five, but I'm still excited. Well, you know what they're coming back because everything when you search Real Housewives news, it's all Jersey. They, TMZ even has stupid Jacqueline, the Rideau on the cover and they pick the most unflattering turkey neck. She looks like a Ziploc bag full of Tamar's breast. Yes. Tamar's breast skin. It's like someone ordered a bag of breast skin and she's about to lose her house. It looks like because she missed a $10,175 monthly mortgage payment. I guess that Blackwater isn't selling so well. Yeah. And Caroline Maamzo is confronted this season about her husband cheating all the time. What? Did he do it with someone in the back room of Kavache? Well, she's with him. He all like every time I look at him, I feel like he's wearing like really like baggy track pants and he's always like holding a golf club and going like, yeah, I had bypass surgery. That's not cute. Well, have you ever seen the sopranos? Look at all the ass that Tony Soprano got. Yeah. Well, then again, you are from that, you know, neck of the woods, Ben. I am. I'm a mom. Yeah, but that was like, that was fake. I mean, that was a TV show. Someone wrote that fat bastard getting laid by the girl from flash dance. I mean, this is real life. Well, every time you guys, we are at the brownstone, there are secret cavernous, that upstairs has like mazes upon mazes of rooms and bedrooms and bootwars. And you know, dirty stuff goes down. I actually think it's probably a brothel. I'm going to put that out there. And it's not a rumor. It's a brothel. And you know, nothing turns on a lady more than a man who has his own catering hall. That is hot. That's free food. It's hot for me balls, you know, Viennese table. That guy looks like he can barely walk from his car to the restaurant. How in the hell is he having? He's one of those people that's probably 49 that looks 75. You know those guys. Yeah, you know them. You know, those white dudes. Well, that's exciting. Yeah. New Jersey is on the horizon because the PR machine is cranking into overdrive and I'm loving it. Yeah, it looks like it's going to be one down and dirty season. And frankly, we're going to need it because Beverly Hills was semi-nice. If you think about it, nothing really dramatic when home with that. Orange County seems like it's going to be more of the same change. Orange County looks like it's going to be pretty, there might be some aggressive stuff. I mean, this coming episode already looks like there'll be some great fireworks. You guys, can I just read a random headline that just cracked me up and I'll turn off the internet? Michael Clark Duncan's family. We want Omarosa investigated. What does any of that even mean? I'm turning this off. The world is too confusing. But yeah, the house, what the Orange County always gets a little bit nasty, but to me, it always seems like it's in good fun. Yeah, I think that the really the the the breakout season of the past nine months or year even was Miami. Miami had it all. We had that fist fight, we had yelling, we had trannies, we had drag queens, it was perfect. And it was a shorter season. It was great. I'm excited for season three of Miami. Well, did you guys see that video that was posted by another one of our users about Joanna Crippa talking about what happens on the next season of Miami? And by the way, I won't even let's not even go there yet because we won't do the spoilers. But let's talk about the casting for a second for Miami. Everybody is saying that Mary Saul has been downgraded to friend of house wives. They are saying a carrot has been removed completely. And they are also saying that who else got downgraded? There was one other person who was downgraded. It was it wasn't Alexia. No, I think Alexia has been up. I think Alexia was upgraded. Yeah, it wasn't Adriana. It wasn't Leah. Oh, Anna. Anna. Yes. Good. She was such a bitch at the reunion. Sorry. Yeah, she was. She made very good TV though at the end of the season. She started getting in fights with every I mean, she was a shit stirring monster. Yeah, she had so many portfolios behind her back. It was ridiculous. She was like a legal department back there. It was like a filing cabinet. She kept reaching behind her pillow for something else. Okay, so let's get on to do we have any more gossip gossip or are we ready for actual TV topping? I just want to say that candy factory bombed in the ratings. And that girl cannot hold her own spin off. Sorry, honey. Same producers as platinum hit. So think about that. I love platinum hit. I did too. I loved it. I was thinking today about a thing today about about Bravo shows that just sort of never caught on or never really had their time. And platinum hit I think was one of them. Obviously gaw girls. I was even thinking about situation comedy. Remember that show guys? No, what's that? It was like Bravo's Project Greenlight which by the way Project Greenlight is also on that list. But it was like basically Project Greenlight but for sitcoms. And they had all these like writers. And they came in and they all had to like pitch a pilot or whatever. And they whittled it down to show ideas. It was produced by Sean Hayes, the show. And he was like a host, whatever. And they mentored that. Yeah, what's that? But it wasn't called that was it? A situation comedy? Yeah, is that what it was? I think it was. And so the way they show. Terrible, terrible shows they had on competing. They were terrible but it was a really fascinating show because they really brought it through the whole process of like bringing it to the network and casting it and then making these pilot presentations. It was great. I loved it. Yeah, one of them was the this lady who had her baby from a sperm donor. And then the sperm donor became the real dad. I liked that one. And it was played by Janice from Friends. Oh my God. That was terrible. And then what was the other one? The one that won was something about like, I think like a kid who was like really smart. Like a kid who like wore like a little suit, right? Yeah, I think it was something was really stupid. It was like, okay, well, I'm ready for my 3 p.m. appointment. It's like, ha ha ha ha ha. I hated it. The other one at least had like some body humor in it. Yeah, I like that so too. Darn it. I wish that was coming back. But now Sean Hayes is busy actually producing terrible sitcoms. Hot and Cleveland holler, although I shouldn't call it terrible because I love it. It's a golden girl's rip off and I love it. Yeah, so much. So anyway, on to current Bravo show, should we start with Orange County? Yeah. Yeah. All right. So let's see what happened this episode. We met a new girl. We met and it wasn't Zoe Deschanel. It wasn't it was Lydia. Was her last name again? Lydia something. Gums. Lydia Gums. Lydia Lydia the the bubbly Christian lady. So she's our second Christian lady on this show. But I thought I don't know. I kind of thought she was I enjoyed her. I thought she was sort of quirky and silly. Well, she says that she's Christian in a different way than Alexis. Like it's it's less offensive. And here's why I think it's less offensive because Alexis is full shit. Well, we've already talked about that. But Lydia does it almost to apologize for being richer than me. It's almost like I'm richer than you, but I do pray. It's like, okay, okay, okay. I almost got this. I didn't get a sense that she was sanctimonious or that she would use it to defend ridiculous things in her life the way Alexis does. And I also feel like the fact that she went to some sort of like Bible camp or whatever when she was 21 makes me think that she probably has a little bit of a better understanding of perhaps Christianity than Alexis does. We just follow a certain mantra as that Jim feeds her. Yes. Oh God. And Jim, that this whole this whole crusade to make them look like they actually give us shit about each other continues. Oh my God. Husbands Martha Stewart, who would have ever thought? Keep the honey. Keep the the stick. Keep the twig on the grapefruit honey. Yes. They are so lucky to be getting a paycheck for this season because they have had zero interaction with people. Oh yeah. Well, until next week. Until next week, but I'm sorry. That's just that's that's wrong. Like none of these people are clearly friends on any of these shows really, but they at least need to be willing to film together. If I'm sorry, it just pisses me off. Well, I'm sure we'll be getting more overlap with Alexis and the other girls. We had a little bit she she visited Vicki was the first one to see baby Troy, right? So there's that. That is true. Yeah, that's how exciting this episode was. I'll tell you what was exciting was Lydia's husband. He is hot. He is real hot. A hot gay Christian closeted man. And that is always one of our favorite things and a nut that we always want to crack. And God bless him. God bless him for doing shirtless pull-ups for no reason. Oh, I know. I know. And I love that he turned his back to us. I know. I know. I know that anybody and he took off the shirt, but like I was waiting for the pants need to come off to you. I mean, he changed completely to go out to that event that night. So the pants had to come off. The event was them going to dinner down the shore by the boat. But I don't know. I kind of actually enjoyed that. Like some people would do that. Like if the Bellinos did it, I'd be like, oh, they're the worst. But these two, I don't know. I kind of thought it was cute, you know, and she's like, it's the boating life. I was like, okay, I'm down with that. Whatever. I hate them. I know. But I know that it's so stereotypical for gay guy to be like, oh my God, he must be gay because he's so cute. But he did. He was. She said something and he was like, Oh, girl, I hope that's a plot line coming up. What I like about her is that she sort of seems to me like one of those inflatable guys that's in front of a car dealership that sort of like flaps his arms the entire time, you know, and she sort of had that lanky lack of control over her limbs. Like when she announced that she was from Orange County and she sort of did this weird little dance, if someone could make a GIF of that moment, I'd be very happy. There's going to be a lot more of it. Somebody posted on our Facebook, I think last week, I guess you guys didn't watch it, but it was so funny. It was this clip of all the housewives being interviewed in their diary room sessions and they were all describing to new girl and it was so funny. They're like, well, she's so positive and what's her buns? Adrian, the Adrian of Orange County. What's her name? Heather. Oh, Heather, Heather, Heather was like, she does this dance, this happy dance. The interviewer is like, do it. She's like, I don't do that. Make them do it. You know, Heather is actually being quite insufferable this season. She is awful. Thank you for addressing it. She is the worst. Like her last season, but this season, she's a real shrew. I mean, she really gives women a bad name, I think. She was a shrew last year. What do you guys even, but she's even more aggressively humorless and obnoxious. She's so obnoxious to Terry. And Terry's like a good guy. He's like, he's like fun and sweet. You know, I like Terry. But yeah, look, look, you know, even if Terry was like throwing marshmallows at her face during dinner, look at her house. I know. Nice. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they obviously don't have a prenup. It's funny on this show how you learn to spot a prenup because they do not have one. Yeah, yeah, I would not say that there's much of a prenup, given the way that she harangs Terry. Yeah, she really does. I mean, I actually feel bad as a Jew, because they show her like being totally overbearing and ridiculous. And then they go off to synagogue, I'm like, Oh God, they've now like, now everyone who has no idea what a Jew is like, is now going to see her and be like, Oh, all Jewish women are overbearing and awful and shrewish and terrible to their husbands. I think that's what's going to happen now. Well, also Jewish people, when did you start allowing reality so filming inside synagogue? I was shocked that they let cameras inside during Yum Kapoor. It's like, this is like your time of atonement and they're going to let cameras in. I guess I'm assuming the congregation wanted to have some publicity. Obviously. Obviously. Well, they needed some. They only have like 20 people there for Yum Kapoor. I know I was like, I was actually pretty surprised that too. It was like empty, empty and except for their hideous baby Collette screaming the entire time. Which county is where the Christians live, I guess, and we and L.A. gets the Yahooties. Yeah, that's that's Yahooties. That's a new one. They're far away from Larchmont Village. I'll tell you that much. By the way, it was that Heather's mom or was that that was Terry's mom? She didn't speak one word, right? She just gave like crazy eye looks at the screaming children. She can't speak any words. She's not maybe she's from house doesn't move. She may be mute. She's she's had a little bit of work done by her son. I'm not going to mess with Heather either man. Heather's probably even 10 times worse than she is to us. I am actually wondering she mentioned Heather mentioned a conservative synagogue that she went to growing up. I'm actually wondering which one it was because there's a chance it could have been my synagogue because she's from Tropical in New York and a lot of people from Tropical went to my synagogue and I was in a conservative synagogue. So if someone could investigate bet Torah's logs and see if Heather Page Kent was in there and report back, we'd be very happy to know that. I keep forgetting that her name was Heather Page Kent. What a bad what a bad day. What a beautiful Jewish name. Oh my god, sounds like she's fresh off the boat from Israel with that name. Heather Page Kent. Oh my god, I don't know why talking about Jews has made me have to be so bad, but keep talking. I'll be back. Okay, we'll talk about like Manashevitz or something. I just look Jewish. I'm not actually Jewish. I am. I'm actual a real Jew. Real deal Jew. We know. We know. We know when you have to take a break and like not tape with us because of Russia, Shanna or Passover, Kippur or whatever. Yeah, Passover, Kippur, exactly. Let's see. So has that a sequel to Kelly Kippur from the office, their buddies? Yeah, exactly. So let's see. So there was that with so Heather was ridiculous. Vicki. Oh, so the other thing was the Tamara is opening up her her studio cut fitness, which surprisingly has left out a much-needed end from the title. Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking too. What does cut stand for again? It's like cardio, unique training. Classy urban. Classy urban training. Classy urban. Classless ugly train. Yeah. So what do you think about her empty studio? How am I supposed to say anything? I mean, I can't tell if it's going to be a shithole or if it's going to end up being nice. I have no idea. Is it possible to turn that into a legitimate exercise studio in the span of four weeks? I don't know. I mean, I mean, in four weeks, is she just going to put some yoga mats on the floor and wheel in some elliptical machines and maybe put a few kettle ball bells in the corner? I mean, if that's what you need. Well, first of all, did you already talk about the name? Yes, I go on. We said I was missing an anorani. Yes, it definitely is. But I love that what it stands for. It doesn't even make sense. Okay, cardio, unique training. What does that even mean? cardio, unique training. It's like cardio that you can't get anywhere else. It's unique to that empty space. Bad, bad sentence structure. Listen, it doesn't make sense in that order. Do you realize if you say cut fitness fast enough? It actually sounds like a face. Cut fitness, cut fitness, cut fitness, cut fitness, cut fitness, cut fitness. They should definitely open up a juice bar and a smoothie bar and serve egg salad. Egg salad. Egg salad, protein shakes. To make any sense, it needs to be unique cardio training. So it would be like up which I think would probably be more fitting anyway. Well, you you lost us when you said to make sense. Because nothing makes sense in hard and challenging. I know, but getting back to design, I think that what they're basically going to do is they're going to make good calls, the nearby TJ Maxx and the truck is going to show up and the door is going to open and they're just going to pull off everything. They're going to make exercise equipment out of like, I don't know, crazy saucers and strange Ottomans and like decorative cows, you know, my favorite part of the Facebook page right now is our users going to said TJ Maxx and or marshals and or home goods and or cost plus world market and taking photos of things that they know exist in either Tamra or Gretchen's shithole houses. I want it is my favorite thing ever. I want more of that. More of it people more of it, you know, there definitely needs to be somebody somebody needs to get a photo of a one of those like crazily intertwined oil and vinegars, you know, snakes that wrap around each other with maybe like a little like rusted grape wrapped around it or something or some sort of like glass cylindrical glass vessel that is filled with balls of like wooden twine, you know, by the way, I have that as my centerpiece on my dining room table and I got a lot. Okay, I got one of my classic establishment. So that's fine. I got I have one full of fake lemons. That's what I was going to say. I also have one full of real lemons, not from Yolanda, but if you follow me on Instagram, you would see all of these photos. Yeah, you know, actually, I could do a whole podcast coming up with things I've seen in TJ Maxx and seeing if they'd be a Gretchen or Tamra's home. Oh my god, have you seen that big, you know how they sell portraits there, like the big paintings that are just like posters? Yeah, have you seen the Paris one? I'd like to say it's got to be something of Paris. Yeah, like I always think of when I see Gretchen's house, I'm like, that bitch would have that and be like, look, it's a brachary, we're really she would be the type that have like Paris on black and white except for one woman in like a red dress. Exactly. And it might say like bibliotec and it'd be spelled wrong. And then like the woman would be there'd be like a painted woman on it. And like on her diamond ring, like they'd actually put like a little fake diamond on the canvas to make it bling out. Oh, there'll be something like Henry that would say like jaguar on top, you know? Oh, yes. A little glue gun on diamond, a little glue gun on diamond, and there might be even some hat boxes that match the artwork in a baby star. Oh my god, I could have a baby one time, but I'm so young. I said, I better have them before I get all. You know, you know, she's got like, like every single type of truffle oil that comes on sale, TJ Maxx, you know, she's got an entire cabinet of truffle oil. This is so embarrassing, but I'm actually looking at my most recent post on Instagram right now. And I actually features something in my kitchen, which are three roosters, rooster plates on easels, but I swear to God, I swear to God, they're not from raw stress for less people. I swear. Those were cute. Those were cute. You can tell cute stuff like that because I actually, maybe I'm actually drawn to the shit I make fun of. Listen, I bought stuff on TJ Maxx for less. My house was designed by Ross, like everything in here. But here's the point. When you go to those stores, the fun is weeding through the crap and then finding awesome stuff, but then Gretchen and Tamra and everyone else on this cast seem to just take the crap. They don't even bother trying to hunt down the good stuff like, Oh, okay. Well, there's a chef with a serving platter. We'll take him. Okay. There's a there's a Betty Boop figurine that you can put, you know, like, what is it with Betty Boop always being at Ross dress for less? What is that? I mean, that is like, it's where Betty Boop has gone to die. I don't I don't get it either. Okay, so are we done with Orange County? Because those bitches are definitely more things to discuss. Okay, what else? Brianna having an awkward salad out of a plastic container lunch with Vicky and yeah, Alexis and then Alexis trying to be friends with Vicky starts making shit awkward by asking about Brooks in front of Brianna who clearly hates him. Yeah, that was great. I enjoy. I'm sorry, Vicki was. Vicki doesn't have a straight answer and it's starting to piss me off. I just like when Vicky is saying things like, Well, it's just difficult because, you know, I, you know, Brooks and I really love each other, but it's hard because everyone there's so many people who just don't like him and are really vocal about and there's so many people like that. And they just keep on cutting to Brianna sitting there eating her salad. Yeah, gnawing on some lettuce. Just like, okay, here we go. Yeah, well, she's trying to, it's like she's trying to make Brianna say that like argue with her and she's not going to do it. And I love Brianna just coming into her office like, look, if any of your boyfriends come in here, I'm leaving and I'm taking a baby. She's holding that baby. She knows that that's power. You know, it's probably a robot, but it's a smart move on Brianna's part to get whatever she wants out of Vicki. Does has anyone worked on their Vicky voice? Listen, Brianna. Brianna, I don't want to fight about I don't want to talk about this anymore, Brianna. I don't even talk to him anymore. I don't I don't even really do a real voice. I just kind of talk like the Sarah Glenn voice. I need more Midwest. I have to say like two nights ago, I decided to give it a try and I like, it sounded really good, but I think I've lost. I think I've actually a hundred percent lost it. I've it's the candy baris effect. Can I give you like, oh, can I give you a line to try? Yeah, like give me a line. Okay, I'm going to give you a line that is so hilarious because one of our people posted this one of our users posted on Facebook and I could not agree more, but it definitely has to involve the word insurance because Karen, our user was like, oh, here we go. The first incredulous, who does fill in the blank without insurance of the season? I got Karen, you're a genius. I love it. Great comments this week. Great comments. Should I try that? Who is the business? It's like, who happens to business? What I can share? No, no, say I can't do it. It's hard because Vicki has different voices also. She has a calm voice and she has an exasperated voice. Like, I think I can do the exasperated voice because it's pretty much just like a lady version of Thomas Kramer. I was just going to say it's Thomas Kramer from the Midwest. Yeah, I'd be like, how do you not haven't you? Sorry. I came out wrong. I came out wrong. Let me try it again. Let me see. How do you have it? No, you can't do it. It comes out as you to bunker. Okay, just take a second. Take a second. Chill out. Crack open. This is what this is what it must feel like to audition for American Idol. Crack open. I'll get one more shot. Can I get one more shot? I'm just really nervous, guys. Okay. I just need to, like, put on it. No, you need to put on a bedazzled cowboy hat. You need to crack open a Bud Light Lime. Pretend that you are going down a lazy river. In Arizona? In Arizona near Lake Havasu. Football's coming to my face. Football's are flying at your nose. There are people on pontoons, holding Bud lights, tramp stamps everywhere. Gina's got her, got her friend Frankie there who was not invited. Okay, I'm starting to feel it. I'm starting to feel it. Tami knickerbacher, maybe doing, she's probably doing shark day out of a bong. I love her so much. She's my best. She's my sister. She's, I love her. Okay, I think I'm in this space. I think I'm in this space. Let me see if I can do that. How do you do that? You sound like somebody putting beaker the muppet into a blender. I have to work on this. Maybe I should work on the quiet voice first. You know, the screaming voice is coming every time I, I'm trying to do my Thomas Cramer voice, but when I try to make it do falsetto Thomas Cramer, it comes out really strange as this whole other beast. I don't know what it is. Well, I, I stick with my, I stick with my original point that Breonna has nothing to say and I don't care what she says about paying rent. You know she's paying like 20 dollars a week to live there. I'm not buying it. Yeah, I agree. And also that money's coming straight from Bravo. I like her too, but shut up. Stop complaining. Go move into your own house. And then complain about Vicki. That's what I like. I just don't like her living off of her and complaining. Like don't be so angry. Yeah. And I think honestly, Tamara, Tamara kind of said it best, which is at this point, you know what, let Vicki, if Brooks is going to be bad or take advantage, let Vicki find out the hard way. Everyone's warned her. They've said what they can say. Just now let her do her own stupid thing. Yeah. Okay. Well, but you have to just say one more thing, though. Speaking of stupid things, Vicki driving across the street to Tamara's fitness studio, when it was 10 yards away. Well, maybe she had to go somewhere afterwards to Hannah's. They went to Hannah's. I just drove to Starbucks and it's on my same block. Like it's on. Ronnie, you did not drive down that block to the Starbucks at Fairfax and Santa Monica. I did. I did. No, the parking is when you were in the back, right? Yeah, I've been, I've been whiny, so I didn't want to do it. And I was like, you know what, I'm not going to do it. You could throw like a ham sandwich from Ronnie's house to the parking lot at that Starbucks. And I have, I've thrown ham sandwiches there. You know what's even worse? The pan cell family. I've eaten, took him with me and then took him out of the car and tied him up in front like I had walked there. So nobody would give me shit about it. And then went back in the car with Bueller. This episode is brought to you by Huggy's Little Movers. Huggy's knows that babies come in all shapes and sizes and they're tushies due to. Huggy's has more curves and outstanding active fit. Parents know that there's nothing worse than an ill-fitting diaper. Especially for active wiggly babies. Huggy's Little Movers are curved to fit all curves. So babies feel comfy no matter how much they're moving around. And we all know, they're moving around a lot. They also offer 12-hour protection against leaks, which is a game changer. Get your baby's butt into the best fitting diaper. Huggy's Little Movers. We got you baby. Explaining football to the friend who's just there for the nachos? Hard. 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I feel like we would hire somebody to take us down there if we were a person. We'd call uber. We'd call uber and have like one of those like big ass escalates take us. Yeah. Stretch. Escalade. So where starts at Starbucks and ends at Ronnie's house. So he gets in the back door. He walks actually down through the escalator, gets at the front door. And he's there. He's there. It's perfect. What else happened on this show you guys? Nothing really. I think we should go to Atlanta. Reunes, right? Huh? Yeah. Right? Huh? I agree. I'm surprised, Ben, that you didn't put Tamara's saggy breast photo from our Facebook page in our cover page on Facebook because you do like to trump my Facebook pages. But guess what? The one I posted is so iconic. It's already iconic and it's less than a week old. Well, I didn't want to, you know, step on any of your beautifully pedicured toes. So I kept the, I kept Tammy's, Tammy sees breasts on the main thing. But who knows? Never know what might happen on that cover page. I have a feeling by the time this podcast makes it to iTunes, it will be long gone. Thanks to you. No, no, I actually honestly, I thought the Tamara picture was funny. But I didn't think it was like cover page worthy because it was a sort of a vertically oriented photo. So, you know, yeah, we would have had to close up on the, on the saggy boob. And I don't feel like it's right to be making fun of people's saggy boobs, especially when you're being hyper credit about it. Yeah, I just sort of wanted to put it out there to say, look at this. I don't want to be like so aggressive. Although last week, I did kind of aggressively make fun of Carrie's face in marriage and medicine with our cover photo. But, you know, I mean, her face is ridiculous. What can I say? The only person funnier for you than funnier than you for posting that picture was God for making that face. Oh, I can't wait to talk about marriage medicine, but let's talk about Atlanta. So Atlanta, what these bitches fight about this week? It's like the epic three part reunion part two. So Kim walked in wearing a green tablecloth. Go. Oh my God. Okay, Kim is wearing that green dress with the Caesar's palace waitress mesh. Oh my God, Ronnie, I thought, but I was watching it. I almost, I watched it in the middle of the night. I almost texted you, but I didn't want to wake you up because you and I have a fucked up obsession with flesh colored, like a hosiery that's attached to dresses and it's like horrible. Her breasts was like hanging out the side, but the flesh colored thing was barely keeping it in. Oh God. Caesar's palace of realness. I have a question. I don't know if you guys noticed this, but all the women actually kind of match the color scheme of the set. Do you think that they had people call ahead of time? Okay, this is what the set's going to look like. Have your dresses, match? Ben, Ben, just give your gay card back. Of course they do. They all have to wear different color dresses. What are you thinking? Crazy? Because they match perfectly the set. By design. That's what I thought. Okay. I'm sorry. Back and Kim. She had real hair. Eyes and excuses. Whatever. Shut up. I am so team Kim, I'm going to fight you. I'm going to fight you so bad right now. Doesn't ever say one damn true thing the entire time she had real hair. She had real hair. Well, I never said I was going to go on that trip. I don't even know where they got that idea. That was. I don't even know what a trip is. If you could tell what a trip is. Anguilla. I thought Anguilla was the new shop down by the town by the supermarket. We all sat down together and talked about this trip, Kim. Well, when did we do that? We never sat down. I never had dinner with anybody. I've never eaten a thing with y'all. Whoa, were you a Chick-fil-A? I've never even been a Chick-fil-A. I don't even sit down. I kneel. I kneel. And then sometimes I squat, but I never sit. So for you to say that we sat down and talked about it, I don't think so. If Kim said that she didn't go to Chick-fil-A, I'd know that'd be a lie. Yeah. Listen, if they said we're going to do a vacation down in Kentucky Fried Chicken, she'd be like, "Okay, be there. You need a week for me? I'll be there." I need a waffle fry. Okay. Well, you know, when we didn't talk about having, when we didn't have a meeting and we didn't talk about having a trip, I did agree to go on a trip in America. Yeah. No, that's right. In a American trip. Meanwhile, that's ridiculous because if she were to go to like California, let's say, I'm sure that would be a longer flight than going to Anguilla. Yeah. She is full of shit. And since when is Kim so classy that she's not going to have her baby on a helicopter? Yeah. She's like, "Well, I can't just have my baby on a helicopter." She's like, "All my other babies have been born in recreational vehicles, okay? I will not have my child born in a helicopter." Yeah. She's like, "The back seat of a car? Yes, but that's on the ground in America." I accept a truck, a freight train, or any other like vehicle, but he's not a helicopter. He's not a person to be born in a manger in a barn, but he wasn't the last. I don't want no guillain baby. I want an American baby, not a guillain baby in a helicopter. I would have, I would have had my baby in Anguilla, but I didn't want a black baby. I had that in a car seat in America. Now, listen, are anguillas and armadillas the same thing because if they aren't, then we have another issue to talk about it. Okay. You people are such haters and you best be watching Don't Be Tardy season two starting tonight on Bravo because I am not going to be the only one watching that. Oh my god, is that starting tonight? I need to make sure I'm emailing. Sorry. I'm going to text my friend to record it because I'm going to my friend's house to watch TV tonight. I'm doing it right now. Is your friend, is your friend a Bravo reality star because God damn. Yes, I'm going to Reza's house to watch TV. So suck it. No, it's not a reality. With his staff look, okay, I just emailed the recap. Okay. So hopefully we'll at least have recounts, but I'm not watching that shit. No, no, you have to. Our fans want you, Ronnie, to watch it and talk shit about Kim. No, I'll watch this one episode, even though every episode I saw last season of it was god awful. You are horrible. This would be amazing. There are 20 married to medicines than one Don't Be Tardy. I don't want to put any money in that trashy horse pocket. I think she's nothing but garbage. I'm not giving her nothing is going to stop the fact that show has good ratings and Don't Be Tardy is going to continue on like the candy factory. So let's talk about candy and Kim and their battle because I think the candy is a dumb-ass hoe for going after Kim for $5 about that dumb song. But when was the last time the candy had hit? Of course, she's going to go after the royalties. By the way, candy. Never mind. I'm just not even going to go there. But yeah, you're right. Prayed up did not work. I said, Prayed up. I've never even heard that song. Has that been on the radio? I'm Ronnie. First of all, who still owns a radio? Were you born in the 60s? That's so adorable. So adorable for you to ever think that anyone from the real house would ever be played on the radio. What a great idea. I've heard Kim in the gay bars and I've also heard the countess Luan. I mean, that's not the radio, but it's a gay guy's iPod. Doesn't that count for anything? I love that any gay guy with an iPod is a DJ. Yeah. In our town, they are. Yeah. Like what we're considered a tastemaker, even worse. Gay people don't even know what to do in front of a live band. I'm like, that's so loud. Gay people don't even have any kind of real music. It's just like, my pussy and my crack. We love songs about pussies. We do people. Where were we? Candy and Kim? Okay. Yes. So I'm glad that Candy did because it wasn't like she just woke up one day and was like, it's a reunion. I'm gonna. I'm gonna sue Kim today. Yes, she did. Of course she did. That day is the day that that news broke and she had Phaedra as her lawyer. I mean, my God, how like, like ridiculous are these people that they're by the way. I can't say the word ridiculous, but when talking about the real housewives without thinking of that dick. Ridiculous. I am a gentleman and I would never go there. Last year, they had the fight about the song. I believe it was last year, right? And Andy was like, let it go, Candy. Let it go. If you're, if you're a baller, if you're small, but your empire is growing as your intro says, then why don't you shut up and just take all the money that you're getting from selling dildos and vibrators to old ladies in ATL and shut up and enjoy your money and your double wide mansion that's in the ghetto neighborhood that nobody wants to go to. Candy's like, see, I thought that when I recorded the song, I would get royalties for Riley, but then I didn't get any royalties. So, see, I don't know. I don't know if I am okay with Kim getting all the money. So I'm going to sue her and give some food for Riley. I hope that when you're doing that, you're doing that weird thing where she like cocks her head, rolls her eyes and snaps her finger. Yeah, that thing where she sticks her fingers out very slowly. Yeah, when I have to be scared to close on one eyebrows to be up. When she's sticking her fingers out, she's definitely always looking for a cheese platter because it doesn't like to pass one of those up or to go box for sure. Well, she, they said last year and Kim said she was going to work it out and pay her and the bitch never did. So, Candy had it taken off iTunes because Kim doesn't on the rights to that song. So then Kim filled out some lawyer affidavit form or whatever and got the song put back up. And so, Candy sued her ass to get it taken, you know, Candy sued her good for her. Yeah, I think Candy should. Just like Kim deserves to be sued for whatever shady ass deal she had with this house she was in, just like she deserves to get sued from her old homely man's wife who paid for her house because that is half her money and he shouldn't be buying a townhouse for Kim. I am going to sue you on the behalf of Los Angeles for smogging up the air by driving your car half a centimeter to Starbucks. I would rather choke on the smog of Ronnie's car than to have to deal with Kim's ultiac for another minute. And at least I paid for my car. I don't fuck random old people with families to get it. Yeah. Well, Crois I actually a lot younger than her. So I'm talking about Big Daddy who got her that townhouse. Yeah, don't forget about that. Yeah, Cory has done nothing except stand around like a bodyguard. He's an under-employed football player with no money. He doesn't have savings. They couldn't even keep that damn house and now they're still okay. Okay, gay person that doesn't know sports you are wrong. Actually, Atlanta has gone to the playoffs two years in a row and he makes bank and he's actually starting a starting player on that team. Ben, back it up. It's true. But does he not get does he not get major bonuses from going all the way deep into the playoffs every year? Because he does. He gets major bonuses for going all the way with Kim's ultiac. And you know, all that money is just going to go right out the door because she is using it up. That money is going to her ass from Chick-fil-A and through all these bullshit deals that she's doing all over town and squelching on. They haven't paid for anything. Please, they're still living in a townhouse. She's spending all that money. They are building a house right now. Did you not hear her say that on the reunion part two? Well, let's not also forget Lisa Wu Hartwell from season one and two who was married to Ed Hartwell, who was a successful football player too. But his career came to an end. And all of a sudden when those careers come to an end, even though you're making bank, all of a sudden things change a little bit. And you can't really afford those mansions anymore if you haven't, you know, if you got a wife who's been spending all your money to, you know, get into legal fights and tearing up rose beds and doing who knows what. So I don't know. If I were them, I'd be putting more money away and living more modestly. Yeah, hell yeah. You can't not be a baller if you want to be part of this scene and on these shows. That's the way it is. You got to have big ass rings. You got to have bigger ass SUVs. You have to have nasty ass mansions that have 25 bedrooms. That's the way it is. And throw parties at bar one. Hey, hey. Well, she better find a way to make enough money to support her dance. I don't, you know what? I don't even care. I'm glad that Kim spends more than she deserves. I'm glad that she has no talent. And I'm glad that she's an asshole because I cannot wait to watch her decline over the years. I mean, that's one of the great things that time moving slowly is good for you. You just get to watch people slowly go shit. Even her mom is suing her, right? Her parents are both suing her. Yeah. Yeah. What for robbing them of precious years of their lives? Who knows? Having to pee in the bushes or some shit. Oh, man counter, but I hate her. It's like rooting for the people I grew up with. And I'll pass on the bowling alley fucking behind the fucking bowling, the bowling ball stands and stuff like I'm not going to go out there and root for them. They're disgusting. You people are so wrong and I'm starting to get actually mad at you. Oh, what are you going to do about it? Yeah, what are you going to do Matt? What are you going to do? Take a selfie. I, so hate you. Wait, there was other stuff that happened too. There was, well, obviously the big thing was that Nini and Kim hugged, right? That's our photo. So what did you guys think about that hug? I actually think that's real. I mean, that's why I like Kim. When I say I like Kim, I think back to season one and even season two when she and Nini were allies and friends and the two of them drinking countless bottles of white wine at Mexican restaurants and teaching Kim about the magic of what guacamole really is and how the felonies and how the most fun moments we've ever had on the Real House West of Atlanta. I do hope that one day these women will be back on screen together because they truly are some on Louise 2.0. They are, I guess. I liked hearing this stuff about how Nini got Kim the job in the first place, you know, like they saw each other out and Nini is like, "Oh, we're doing this pilot called The Ladies of Atlanta. You should do it." I like that. That Nini had no idea that she was creating a monster. What did you guys think about Andy asking Nini if she thought Kim was racist? That was sort of ballsy. I don't know. I didn't think anything of it, really. I was just sort of like, my mind at that point was like nicely melted down. I feel like sometimes that Black people can get away with just, if they don't like you, they can just call you racist. It's like, you were friends with Kim for so long and you never thought she was racist because you were her best friend, but now suddenly she's racist because you don't like her. Thank you because I agree with you saying that. I don't know that I'm as racist, but I do think, I'd like, who answered that? Candy? I totally agreed with whoever said, "I don't know if she's racist, but she's just ignorant." Maybe Nini said that. I think Nini said that, yeah. I think that that's absolutely right. In the fight that broke up on Nini and Kim, it was really Nini who introduced the racial element to that. She was the one who was saying, "Oh, sweetie's your slave." That really wasn't Kim and it wasn't really a racist situation, I think. It was also last year. It's like trying to bring up. Two years ago. No, it was last year. Two years ago. It was? Yes. Two seasons ago, this season. Our lives have been flying by that quickly and we've done nothing with them. Not this year and not the year before, but the year before. That's two years ago. No, you guys. Wasn't it last year of the year that she was going on that tour on the bus? No, it's two to one right now. Two years ago. Last season, Kim and Nini spent the entire season not talking. The season prior to that is when they had a big fight and this season was when Kim left the show. Time flies when you're having fun and spotting you away. Go to college, please. Go to college. Well, there's other stuff on this reunion too, which is that Nini and Phaedra got into it about some controversy about Phaedra having met up with Nini's half-sisters. What do you guys think about that? That's one of those behind the scenes things that we don't ever get to know anything about. I believe it. I believe all of it. I'm not really sure. Phaedra is saying, "Well, I knew you all anyway, so having them at my party wasn't a big deal." She's saying, "Well, you know, they were just trying to get on the show." Isn't that how it works? Look, Alexis just got her friend on the show, so she'll have someone on her side. Nini got Kim on the show so that she'd have someone on her side, so what's it if? Yeah, I don't know. The whole thing is so strange to me when they talk about these things that happen at off-camera or involving production. It's really breaking the fourth wall that they totally acknowledge. We've seen more of that than ever before in the past few, I don't know, even with Beverly Hills, we got that a little bit. I actually like it. I think that Bravo was scared of going there for the first few years with all of these franchises, but now because these women are so part of our day-to-day celebrity shenanigans and magazine covers and the constant just trash that they produce, I think it's good that they're willing to go there. I think it's actually interesting for fans. I was like, "I love to hear that shit. I love as much as I love me, my she-by-she-ray. I love when Nini just refers to her as "nose." I'm still talking shit that she was essentially saying that Phaedra, Kim, and Shirei were having these sit-downs with Nini's family members trying to make this crap happen behind the scenes and you know what? I mean, I talk shit behind your guys' backs. I talk behind your backs. Why not? I think they should make it like the comeback, at least a cadro show, where the best show in television history, I mean? So good. All we saw on the show was her filming it. We didn't really see it cut together. We just saw how pathetic it was that she was trying to get all this attention from a show. And I think that they should do that, like a behind-the-scenes of a reality show, and then they could have a separate show where you see what they actually cut together for the show, because I think the behind-the-scenes part is more interesting. I mean, I wanted to see that part with Nini's half-sisters or whatever that crap is. I didn't even know she had half-sisters. Yeah, I wanted that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I wanna see. And Manzo on the phone, like, trying to call producers and make them not have anything said about her husband cheating on her with, like, 30 people. Yeah, that's what I'd say. I would see that, too. Did Kendra do anything funny or, I'm sorry, not Kendra Kenya, anything museum this reunion? She popped her fan a few more times. Yeah, I think there's some of that. I think next week is when we get a real Kenya showdown, right, with her in Apollo. Oh, yeah. Next week is gonna be good, because the husbands come on, and Peter's stoned out of his mind as usual and belligerent. Is there anything else on Atlanta that we have to discuss? I guess I'm kind of bored by the whole, like, baby-stealing name, Cash, the Choice. Oh, that's like the most ridiculous argument of all time. I mean, I love candy, but I think that's a stupid thing to complain about. You know, people can choose their own names. Right, and here's, wait, I'm sorry, but here's the one thing that was not addressed there. First of all, candy, you're not pregnant. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, yeah. And you don't have exclusive ownership to the name Cash, and you shouldn't anyway, because it's not a great name. It's a horrible name. It's horrible. Yeah. And it's going to be more popular than your other child debit. I don't like that. I'm sure it has, like, dollar sign. What about Kegel? Why don't you name her son Kegel? She's a little bit of her favorite type of balls. This is my son, Buzz. He came up with John, just like my Kegel balls, so I named him Kegel. Riley, what do you think about that? I think you should ask Mama Joyce about that. Okay, let's move on to marriage with Madison, because they're actually making an effort, unlike the housewives of ATAL. This episode was awesome. Yeah, so good. It was so, so good. Did you guys like it? In a horrified way, I like it. I am so, like, offended. It's ridiculous, and not by the two of you for once. It was such a great ridiculous display. First of all, where do we even begin? I'm overwhelmed. Someone else begin it. Well, what even happened? Okay, it was the main party, but I guess... Okay, here's where it started. I'm back. It started where Toya, who is super ghetto fabulous, was... Well, she's not really fabulous. She's just more just ghetto. She was talking about Mariah's daughter, Lauren. Mariah's also ghetto, by the way, and she's saying how Lauren isn't the biological daughter of Aiden, who is Mariah's husband, and Mariah was pissed, because Mariah's sister told her this, and Mariah was pissed, and then proceeded to tell us about the whole backstory, and was saying how Lauren doesn't know. But of course, in my mind, I'm like, you're pissed at Toya for mentioning this at a bar at like the salon, but you just announced it's the entire world. I mean, do you realize what's going on here? Yeah, her sister just brought it up to the entire world. Her sister and her mother are both so vile, and they look at her... The mom is... The mom is... Disgusting. Yeah. Do you see? Ooh, I mean, she came in and she's like, "And I can't believe that you would tell her that business." I'm just like yelling at her for it, and then the mom's always coming in and yelling at her. They're both disgusting. Oh, the mom, it's, you know, this is where the mom is real. She's an ugly person. I'm not talking about like physically. Like she's... No, her eyes are all jacked up. She's fugly, too. But that's where Mariah, like that's where Mariah, you know, like, you know, when you look at like Mariah, Mariah and you say, "Oh gosh, she's pretty ghetto." You look at the mom, that's where it comes from, you know? Yeah, Mariah looks like I can princess Anne compared to the family she comes from. She showed up at that party drunk as a skunk. Oh, yeah. Two hours late, two hours late, and I loved Dr. Simone being like, "You mate! You mate!" "I got like your friend, really? 'Cause she late. Where is she? Late." I love me some Dr. Simone, despite that overbite. Dr. Simone is turning out to be one of the stars this season. Dr. Simone clearly not an orthodontist. I also, I loved by the way, just backing up a little bit. Carrie doing the preparations for this party. So it got me started then with her wearing aviator sunglasses getting her hair rolled. And then the three-tier cake arrives, and so she cake for like a bar mitzvah. And she's like, "That is not the three-tier cake that I had expressly ordered. That looks like it was made by Elmo. I want to get the cake maker on the phone right now. Cakes were very personal struggles for me. It's very important for me that Duncan has his three-tier cake." "I have been working on this party my entire life. This is the most difficult thing I have ever done. I have not used a caterer. I have not used the party planner." "Hey, I'm learning how to do town with that by doing Carrie." "Wow, who knows?" "No, it sounded like Carrie." "I'm really surprised that Chef Roble was not making a, you know, cross-promotional appearance." "I know, or at least Bernie, for crying out loud." "For crying out loud." "These are oysters. They're going to make you horny." "Yeah, check it out of here, Chef Roble is stupid." "He's still living in Phaedra's basement cooking up some bruchetta." "Yeah, anything that's raw that he doesn't actually have to cook." "It's like obstacles." "They make you happy on a summer day." "Shut up, Chef Roble, get out of here." "Yeah, so anyway, so Mariah is up two hours late to this party that Carrie has worked so hard on." "And by the way, our friend Jenny noted last night that this is a party for Mariah and Carrie." "Riah, Carrie." "Hey." "It's because Jenny and I both love us some Mariah, Carrie." "Yes, you guys do. I just wanted to point it out to the masses." "Love it." "So anyway, so Mariah shows up super late. Carrie's already furious at her." "And then so Mariah's mother, Lucy." "Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, stop there for a second. So don't you think that Carrie should have been pissed?" "Absolutely. Oh, I was-" "It's a party for both of these women's husbands." "Oh, it was." "She did, I mean, granted Carrie probably did nothing except call the Elmo about the cake fiasco, but the fact is Carrie was hosting it and Mariah's showing up that late. I think it's totally disrespectful." "I have dances that have proud engagements and they cannot be waiting in the cold for all hours for Mariah to get here. I understand her, I understand her plight. But anyway, so Mariah shows up, Mariah shows up very rudely and I was totally on Team Carrie. And so then she finally gets there, she doesn't apologize. And then Mariah's mom walks up to Simone and to Toya and they're all making small talk being like, "Ooh, it's lovely. It's a lovely setup." "Okay, who do you want to be? Let's do it. Do you want to be the mom or do you want to be?" "I'll be Toya." "The doctor, okay." "I'll be Toya." "Can I be the person used by the mother to hit Toya on the head?" "Yes, yes, but we're not there just yet." "Yeah, so the pre-part." "Yeah, okay." "Oh, hello, mama." "I don't know." "Oh, this is a lovely party. I have came here so many times, I've never seen it this nice." "Wait, do that again because I love it." "I have came here, I've came here." "Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. I'll be more nice. Look, it's Toya." "I've came here and like, Eugene kept me here right now, but I have came here and it's like really pretty and stuff. There's like pool and like plants." "Oh, really, you think it's pretty? What do you think it's pretty about it? There's some candles there. What's so great about it?" "Be nice, be nice, be nice." "Oh, yeah, well you didn't go up to my daughter and tell her her house was pretty when you were at her party." "I have came to your daughter's party. I have came and I said things. I don't need to repeat nothing." "Oh, you were hating now. Now you're going to hate? Now you're going to hate?" "I'm going to be nice, be nice, be nice." "Oh, you got brains leaking out your face." "Oh, I'm going to call the drug cuz I'm on you cuz I think you're high." "Oh, you're going to make a call, damn it from the phone in this house. There's probably just a Morse code or some shit. This house is disgusting. This ain't a party. This is a pool. There's people standing around a pool." "I don't know who Morse code is, but I don't think he's at this party." "Don't hate. Oh, you know what? I used to like you before I saw all that shit dribbling out your nose." "I don't have shit done." Anyway, so that was the fight. That was fight part one. I'm sorry, that was the setting the stage. Then later on, basically, Toya decides that she has to tell Mariah what her mom said. She's like, "Why's your mom coming up and disrespecting me? I'm not going to say I'm not going to be mean to my elders, but she was saying mean things yada yada yada." "Oh, yeah. Well, you got a mama, and I got a mama. That's my mama." "Be respectful, be respectful. I have came here with my mama, and she was respectful." "Oh, hello. Let me flip your hair a little bit. Look how your hair bounds." And then from there, from there... "Oh, my God. Oh, my God." It all happened very quickly. They were basically tossing each other's hair, and then a purse went, a glass went, and then they were just fighting, toppling over a wad. Yeah, and then quad, but I love when quad goes, "Absolutely not. Absolutely not." Because it was pretty good, Ben, because she's kind of like, "I do declare." "I do declare. If I had been there, absolutely not. Absolutely." "I can't go. Hell no." "Oh, hell no." So I then carry who's like, "I can't believe this. This is not the way people act in my house. I have had a personal struggle with fighting at my house, and if they had realized that, I wish they had known." One of the reasons I didn't eat in the 80s was because I didn't like people yelling. I told Duncan, specifically, that I did not want yelling at my party, and that's exactly what happened, and that's what Duncan saw. Duncan. Adriana slapping Joanna Krupa. No, this was like table flipping, judiche style epic. Yeah, and they were grabbing each other's weaves and pulling and pulling and pulling, and there were five grown men trying to pull them apart. They couldn't do it. And then, of course, when you get a fake nail caught up in a weave, good luck getting it untangled. And then, of course, Mariah's mom came around and started bashing. She was bopping her on the head with a little metallic clutch, and it looked so fake and ridiculous, but it was so real. It looked like she was trying to put out a fire or something. She's like, "Yeah, the mom coming back and beating her in the head was hilarious. It's so long. It's so up, down, and dirty. My god." And the mom was telling her dog, "She was like, 'You hit back. You hit back. She is here. You hit back.'" "Yeah, you hit back. So good for you." And I knocked her upside the head. I love in the coming next week, you see Mariah's in trouble with her husband. She's like, "Now listen, I am sorry. I am sorry for embarrassing you, but I'm also sorry that I didn't finish beating that bitch up." And then, Kerry was just totally distraught. She was acting, quite frankly, as if, I don't know, some huge disaster had happened. Five elephants had come stampeding through her house and destroyed everything. She was like, "The party's over. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen. The party is over. I'm like, the party's just beginning." I love her crying. We don't act like this. We don't act like this, bitch. We have seen you four episodes and you've acted like this in every single episode. How do you not act like this? Come on. Yeah. She's like, "We act like high-class whores, not low-class whores." I loved that she was dressed. First of all, people in ball gowns around the pool is hilarious to me. It just was so tacky that she even got-- Is that just because cameras are there, or do people really do that? And what is with Atlanta always trying to capture old Hollywood glamour at their stupid parties? I know. Guess what? You're on the East Coast. It's not working. Listen, Kerry, look at your face. I mean, look at your face. You can see there's no chance you'll ever be able to capture old-time glamour. Well, you're the old and that's about it. Leave the Hollywood out of it, lady. Yeah. Too many injections. Center broke costume for someone like 13 years old. It was just not cute. She looked like a drag queen. I'll just say it. Yeah. She did. And then so she got security and she had security throwout in Mariah and her guest. Do you think that was the right move? Yes, of course it was. She was still bitter that Mariah showed up late. Yeah. She showed up drunk. They had that fight in the last episode when they were trying out shitty wines. She has many reasons why she's pissed at Mariah. This was just the tipping point that she could finally throw her ghetto ass out of her house. And Mariah's reaction like, "Oh, well, they can throw me out now because they got my coin. That's how they treat you once they got your coin." Yeah. Like, there's coming up with secret ways to get money out of you. You fucking moron. Get out of here. She doesn't even work. So she needs to shut up. It is her husband's money and the best part of the entire episode, besides quad screaming, which is kind of the best thing ever, is when Duncan, like, they think that they're maybe not on camera because they're kind of whispered and their backs are to the camera, but their mic packs are still on. And Duncan pulls Carrie aside and goes, "Ugh, her husband is going to divorce her tomorrow morning." If that was hilarious, this is going to serve her with papers tomorrow, I promise you. And then the next thing you see, the husband totally upset. You not know who you married? Are they really just acting like this for TV? Because it seems like she wouldn't be able to hide that. Yeah. No, personality, but... No, I don't think so. I thought that was a very funny comment by Duncan. I mean, I don't... I mean, a ridiculous fight, but it's not a divorce-worthy fight. Well, and also sexist, like, the same way. Like, "Oh, a wife misbehaving? Well, he'll never put up with that. He's the doctor. She's the wife." Yeah. Gross. It's stupid. It's stupid. Gross. It was disgusting and fun as hell. And I was watching the beginning of it. Like, this is boring, but I had to just keep telling myself, "It's coming. Coming, Ronnie." Like every Bravo show, the big fight happens at the 55-minute mark. Yeah, exactly. But this was a good fight. This was one that lasted like several minutes. It wasn't, it wasn't, you know, one of these little things blow up and then the episodes over. There was, you know, this was a good, like, seven-minute fight. Yeah. They didn't let go. This was a real one. And you can always tell a real fight when it's over by just looking at the girls, because their hair was just all over the place. Loved it. Loved it. The only problem was, what is that other uptight lady that's a gynecologist? Oh, doctor. Dr. Boring? Yeah, Dr. Jackie. Some horns up. Dr. Jackie. She, it's the popo. Um, Dr. Jackie, I just imagine if Dr. Jackie had been in this party. Oh, she would not have had any of it. And in fact, I'm excited for next week when she and Dr. Simone basically lecture the women. Like, it's not weird though. It seems though that next week that everybody is lecturing Toya. And I'm sorry, but I am so team Toya. Well, I'm, I'm team Toya to a certain degree. I think they both are pretty much at fault. They both are ghetto messes in this situation. Okay. They both are messes. But the thing is like, I'm sorry, Mariah's mom stepped to Toya, like, and was rude to her and was rude about Carrie's house. And I think that that, you know, and then Mariah, Ben, if you came up and tried to flip my hair, I would suck the shit out of you. Listen, um, well, we know you have hair because you don't relax as previously discussed. If you were, if you were flicking my chest hair. Listen, Toya, though, you know, she should realize that Mariah's mom is a crazy bitch. And Toya should just let it rolled off her back. Like, why does she care what, what Lucy says to her? She shouldn't have approached Mariah. Mariah's the hostess. She should have just gone on with it and then maybe talked about it the next day. Do you really think that there's a chance of aid in divorcing Mariah? Like, I don't think that that read anything in the news about that recently. But if she's going to act like, I mean, that is not good for his rotation, but he's not going to divorce her because he knows what he married. You know, I don't know what he sees in her, but he knows, but he sees something and he knows what he married. So I don't know what, you know what can be scary is a ghetto wife, but even scarier is a ghetto ex-wife. You don't want that bitch after you look at Shirei. She probably still stalks to her man and chases him down in the meat section, tells him off and beats him in the head. Excuse me, please now refer to her as nose. Nose. So come on, Wayne. Yeah, I was very happy with the show and I'm excited for next week. And it was the highlight of my of my bravo week was that. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to agree with you there that, you know, this show, which I kind of hate and I mean, the show actually made me angry and I was ready to yell at my TV. But it was, I'm going to say if we had to rank this week, I would put that up there. I would say married to medicine, then reunion part two, then OC. Yeah. Yeah. How did how did the episode do? How did married to medicine do this week? Let me look that up. Well, you guys keep talking for a quick sec. Well, what else did you guys watch on the bribes? I watched nothing. No Tabitha folks. No Tabitha. Come on. I didn't get into watching it. It was so good. Everybody was saying it was a gay bar and Riverside, which I didn't know there were gay bars in Riverside. I didn't know that there was gay people in Riverside. I didn't either. But apparently it was some gay bar in Riverside and she and a drag queen did an impression of her. So it was so not that funny, but I was transfixed on it. And the reality is her budget was clearly slashed because now it's just like Tabitha is showing up with some scotch tape and maybe a sharpie that's like halfway used. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to draw a flower and you're going to put it on your wall and that's it. That's it. I don't want to hear anything else about it. I've seen enough. I'm taking over. I'm drawing a flower. She draws a flower on. She sweeps the floor. Yeah. I think it might be wise to put the napkins on that side of the bar. We're going to put some napkins on that side of the bar. And then you're going to go and stop selling for New Yorka here too. You can't stop as New Yorka and drinks. It's one or the other. You're selling too many things. I've seen enough. I'm taking over. LA shrinks its lowest episode numbers on Monday. It only has 500,000 viewers. Orange County has 1.6 million viewers. Orange County is actually the second lowest rated of all of the housewives just a little bit above Miami. Actually, it's it's significantly above Miami because Miami is in the shitter. But it really is, you know, it's it's weak amongst the housewives franchises. But let me look up Sundays for you guys. Well, you look that up. I am reminded that I did meet someone else from Bravo at the New Yorka. Can we guess? Can we guess? You'll never you can never guess. Is it a former star or a current star? I guess a current star. Is it is it not a full-time cast member? Is it a friend of a something here? This is what happened. This woman was at she's at the awards and she was taking if you want to talk about selfies, this woman got us both beat Matt. She was taking so many selfies of herself up against the stage or whatever. And she had this like little like a scarf thing. I had no idea who she was. Jenny Poulos. No. And then I heard her talking to someone and she's like, well, you know, I'm on LA shrinks. And I was like, oh gosh, I was like, I saw one episode. I saw enough to know that you're not one of the shrinks. So therefore you must be one of these patients. And this is pretty much the bottom of the barrel for reality. Wait, wait, wait. Are you telling me that this woman was saying I'm on LA shrinks, but she's not the shrink. So essentially she was like, I'm a mental patient on a reality show, which makes me a double mental patient. Yes, that's exactly right. And she's not even a regular. So that's about as bottom of the barrel of a reality star that you can be. So I encountered that. Okay, I just uncovered some ratings. Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion part two had about 3.5 million viewers, which is humongous for Bravo. Again, Atlanta Housewives is by far the top rated shows ever on the Bravo network. And married to medicine had huge numbers on Sunday night. This is it's it's even blowing dare I say, Vanderpump rules out of the water as as far as ratings go, which means really that is married to medicine is going to be greenlit for a second. So what were the numbers? Throw the numbers, married to medicine had about 2.6 million viewers on Sunday night, which is huge youngest. That's that's more than a million people. That's an additional million people than watch the Real Housewives of Orange County. And this is its own new show. This is not even a franchise. This is not a brand. Can you believe that? That's a that's a ton more viewers. That's like three times more than anything on NBC right now. Exactly. I mean, this is pretty much like I'm sorry, but the Real Housewives of Atlanta has more viewers than community on NBC. What is the world? What is what is becoming of this world? What a sad world we live in. We should wrap things up. Yeah, I think Ronnie has to drive back down to Starbucks. 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