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Today's show is brought to you by Audible. Please visit audiblepodcast.com/bravo for your free audio book download. Hey everyone, welcome to Watch what Crap is. The podcast that's all about Bravo. All that crap you watch on Bravo. Gosh, I'm rusty. This is Ben Mandelker from Visa Blog.com. I've been gone for like a week and I know what I'm doing at any moment. We need to squirt some WD-40 on you. Please do loosen you up. I need my joint scene to be relaxed. I'm here with Matt Whitfield from Yahoo TV. Hey Ben, welcome back. Did you party with Kelly, Killer and Ben Simone in the Hamptons? No, I only saw her. My part is broken. Was she wearing a floral maxi dress and gold bangles? Just say yes. Sure, why not? Thank you. And a helmets, let's say that. Was she making somebody hot? She was making her daughter hot because they were both biking. So I guess her daughter was biting off some calories. And their pre-teens, which they should really start getting hot now while they're in there, you know, before they're pre-pubescent. They're in the hot window. They are, they are. We're also here with Ronnie Karam from tvgasm.com. Hi everybody. Hello and actually Matt and I are actually sitting next to each other today. It's official. We are, we are neighbors. You are three buildings down. I still believe MJ from Shazaf Sunset is across the street. So I hope we have a sighting soon. Oh, and not just MJ. I was going to wait till later in the podcast. I mentioned this. Who? You perhaps saw this week's episode of Real Housewives of New Jersey. Yes. And perhaps you remember there was a scene when Ashley was... What apartment building is she in? She is in the building directly next to yours. Shut up! You live by Ashley? Is she the one right next to me? Yeah, when she showed, she stopped. You can't even just leave now. You bought it. Well, she's sitting like at the courtyard when she was like face-booking or face-time in the Jaclyn. She was in the courtyard of the vantage apartments on Fuller. Don't be telling my address. It's okay. No one's coming to stalk you. I want to stalk her. I would like to stalk her. Ashley does not want to stalk me. So here's the thing. Between you and me Matt, we have Ashley. We have that. Ashley is in between us. It's all Ashley's sandwich. Now, if only it was a Lauren Manzo sandwich. There would be more to go around. There'd be a lot of meat in that sandwich. A lot of reality stars. And that's why I'm a vegetarian. Well, we actually are almost at a reality star like maximum. Across the street, I've got MJ. I've got the Miz. You know I have a crush on the Miz. Well, he's across the street. We have Ashley up the street and also Suga from Survivor is somewhere up the block. Oh, really? And Evil Dick used to live on the other side of you, but he's gone. This is too much. So, Ronnie, when are you going to move on to the block? You guys, that's a lot of mediocrity in one neighborhood. Well, you could come and add to it. You could be the Rose to our Mary and Sondrell. I will get you a meltcrate girl. Oh, I also- That's like 9020000000000. I also forgot to mention that at the other end of the block, if you have the other direction, that's where the Los Angeles arsonist used to live before he was put in jail. I'm glad I left the glamorousness of Larchmont Village for the ghetto of Hollywood. I've really moved on up. Well, I want to reassure the listeners that you are not a the ghetto of iTunes right now. We are going to talk about Bravo. In fact, we have- Yeah, you guys. We are not just about who we live around, okay? It's like actually- We all live around inside of our TVs. But it does help. It does help the fact that we do- we can spy on Ashley and then we can go to Sur and, you know, see Lisa Vanderpump. I mean, we're just- we're bringing it to the listeners. You know, I actually would say that we're probably the only podcast about reality TV and/or Bravo that has such close access to the Bravo liberties on a consistent basis. Exactly. Unlike a few of our competition, our competitors out there that don't live in Los Angeles. Girl, on this tab all you have to do is go to the Abbey, the big gay bar, on a Saturday night and you'll see half of- You couldn't catch me dead there. Well, literally you're not allowed back, right? Because you- Oh, I do. That is true. I might have a wanted poster on the sign. Anyway, we need to mention this quickly where you can find us all at Twitter and then we need to jump into this. Then you can find @besideblog, Ron. You can find @TVgasm and me, Matt. You can find me @lifeonthemlist. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter also at @whatcrapins and download us on iTunes. We are there every single week. Maybe we're going to be there twice a week because we have so much shit to talk about and don't forget to leave comments for us. Yeah, that was, you know, that almost felt like a novel of information and speaking of novels and books. I should mention audible.com. Audible.com is a great place to go download your audiobooks. Ron, you had a good point. Why should anybody in this day and day read? What is the point of reading? Reading is for nerd, you guys. Be cool. Listen to a book. Be cool. Watch TV and then listen to a book. Listen to a book. When you're done, listen to the podcast, start up a book in your ears and get that book from Audible.com. Yeah, why not? And do we have a promo code for them or not? I don't remember. We don't. We don't. Yeah. It's Audible.com/problem. There we go. Oh, I lied. I'm alive. So everyone do that from Audible. Okay, so now let's talk about what we're going to talk about today, which is so much. We have a huge amount of gossip. And then we have a ridiculous amount of TV. Can I just say that the Real Housewives of New York City kind of got to be amazing, one of the best seasons ever? Yes. But before you get there, let's just tell the listeners what we're going to be covering. Real Housewives of New York City, Real Housewives of New Jersey, Real Housewives of Miami. Boo. Don't do it. I was okay today. Yeah. That's beyond me. Okay. Okay. And what else? How can I say that? And what else? And GJ. And Gallery Girls. GJ. Featuring Maggie Shafer, who I had cocktails with when I was in New York. And we will talk about that when we get to that. Ronnie, how fucking fancy is Ben? He's hanging out with Kelly, Killer and Ben Simone, Baby Talk and Maggie, and you and I are just like rotting on your couch last week. Because Ben is so much better at being faked than I am. I can't go half lunch because the whole time she'd be like, remember how you're always like calling me? You say I have daddy issues because I'm always playing with my hair. You think I've been abused? That's really not nice. And I'll be like, yeah, but you play with your hair too much. Stop playing with your hair. Okay. Well, before, because we know that you're the mean one here, that's not true. I'm the mean one. But before we, before we get into the gossip, why don't you just tell Jill's Aaron how you really feel about her? Oh, hey, Jill's Aaron, I hope you're listening to this. Shut up, Jill's Aaron. Okay. Now, now we can move on to gossip. By the way, when I was on the gossip, we've got so much going on this week. There's so much housewives, so much gallery girls. So what I basically did was just pulled up a couple of my favorite housewives sites, the stupid housewives, see what I love. We do love them. And I did a new search on housewives. And then I just brought up a Sulia search on housewives. So I'm just going to go over headlines. And you guys make sure comments on when we move on to the show slider. The most important thing, obviously, Alexis Bolino not coming back to Orange County. I'm devastated. She was the greatest comic relief unintentional in the years. Heather needs a fucking Jesus jugs punching bag. And I don't know what they're going to do without her. And are we ever going to get to see this trampoline park? Because that that needs its own show. I think that this Bravo was going to be funding that trampoline park. And now I think that they're going to have to move into a smaller house with perhaps, you know, maybe they can live in Lori Waring's guest house. Or maybe they can, you know, shack up with Tammy Knickerbocker. They're going to be living in rental cars. Listen, we've seen that trampoline park. It's called her chest. Hey, oh, it's bouncy. Rumor is that she is quitting. And not only is she quitting, she is suing Tamara for calling her Jesus jugs. Okay. Well, that her quitting sounds like Sheray Whitfield quitting Atlanta, AKA bitch got fired. Well, yeah, I love the idea that Alexis is suing Tamara about being called Jesus jugs. She's probably what's going to be the basis of her case that her breasts are not actual physical jugs of water. I mean, I don't understand how she has a light stand on. I would like to be on that jury. Oh, I would love it. You know that I can only imagine what sort of lawyer they'll hire. It'll probably be like this, probably Dr. Booty, you know, in his second profession when he's not teaching like nurses and hot pants how to exercise. Okay, the next piece of gossip is speaking of Saray, Ms. Saray Whitfield. Saray has one up, Nini leaks. She is not going to be in a TV show. She's going to be in a film. What does it is? Is Tyler a parry behind this film? Is it a Madea flick? And is she playing a man with a dick because she has one? Is she is going to be huge, huge, huge film, you guys, called Scary Movie Five. Oh my God, I love that. Oh my God. Actually, this is wanting up Nini leaks. Oh my God, we are going opening night to the Arklight, having cocktails and getting wasted for them. Who was the genius he decided to cast Shiree in Scary Movie Five? And she has kind of looked like that mask. That is brilliant. There's the thing though, you get all the way down to the bottom of the story, and it says, it's not a big role. Shiree wouldn't have any lines and her name wouldn't be in the credits. It's like Marla Maples in executive decision. Yes, I'm making that reference. Wow. Wow. Is that the one with Kurt Russell and Stephen Sagal on them? There's like a plane that attaches and they have to like transfer some gas? Yeah, and there was some press because Marla Maples was in it, and then she had maybe one line at most. She was like a flight attendant. I was so pumped. Okay, well we're going to see Shiree, will she be wearing Shiree in the film? I bet that's part of the contract. Well, you know that Shiree was like in a pizza shop getting a slice while they were filming. She's gonna be a mood. I thought it already was a Scary Movie Five, but you know, I stopped paying attention that franchise a while ago. Ronnie, I don't know if you have this down, but did you guys see the pictures this week that were released? All the girls from the new cast of Atlanta with the two new women were out in LA and everybody was supporting Nini on the set of her new show, the new normal on NBC, and we officially got to see the two women. Bravo hasn't, you know, put out a press release yet, but the two women's names are out there floating around, and it seemed like everybody was playing along really nicely on set. I mean, Candy's there, Phaedra's there, and they're all smiling and hugging with Nini. Kim wasn't there, though. Kim was not there. Right funny, right after Nini had some quote about how no one supports her on that show, and no one's really happy for her, even though they've said they're happy for her, she doesn't believe them. The only one she believes is the one who's always up her ass, we'll set chick's name, the mom. Yeah, Cynthia. The very successful mother. I'm sorry, she had timed a weapon of the Bailey Agency to go to Los Angeles. It's true. The Bailey Agency has a line of three people wrapped around the block. Yeah, that's got an, that's like a Greyhound bus model. Um, sidebar on Nini on the new normal. I have to say that I've hated Nini for the past two seasons on Atlanta. I love her on the new normal. I think the new normal is amazing, and she is hilarious. Did we watch the same sitcom? I watched the first, like, 10 or 15 minutes of the day. But second and the third episode are way better than the past. It was, it was so awful, and the directing was so bad. It's a pilot. Pilots always kind of suck. That's true, but it was so beyond sucking that I just, I can't even. Did you not enjoy watching Nini's spar with, what's that blonde people lady? I didn't, I didn't even, yeah, Ellen Barkin. I didn't even get to when Nini was on. Oh my God. Nevermind. They went to an outlet center and I was like, the writing is so awful, and I know this is, what's this face from Glee? That wasn't even the pilot. That was the third episode. What is it? You're so behind. I don't even know what I'm watching. Or fast forwarded. Ronnie, what's going to say? If themselves yet have a baby and they don't even know their cash, right? I know what you're going. You know what I'm saying. What were you going to say? Sorry. He was going to say, well, if that was actually the third episode, not the pilot, Matt, you're extra fucked up because if that is, if that should be, you can watch that much bad. Anyway, were you just talking about Kim Zulsiak putting her baby cash with a dollar sign out the pictures today? Yes. What the hell? She got paid money. All those girls get paid money. They're not getting paid the two. That's why his name is Cash. She's just holding them out a bus window, like trying to get his picture taken. It just has a bucket behind the bus just collecting money as she goes down. I actually think she probably only got like 50 Gs. I mean, back in the day, people were getting like two, three, four million, but now it's like she and Theresa Judas will do anything for 40 or 50 grand. And I kind of just think that's hilarious that she names her baby cash. It's like, name your baby my retirement fund. You know? Well, look, I mean, her previous children's name are like Brielle. I mean, it doesn't get much more white trash than that. Sorry, Brielle. See, I secretly like the name Brielle. I'm just putting it out there. Well, it's nice in the white trashy sort of way. Yeah, but you hate it now. At least you didn't name Brielle. I refuse to die penniless. That's true. That's like, name your baby cash. The scary thing, though, is Kim said that Croi wants her to have an entire football team worth of children. And if she keeps out popping out more babies, she's going to be spending more money on their clothes and not on her jewelry and wigs and cigarettes. Her vagina is going to be wider than a field goal. That's what I was going to do. It's going to be like the alien from the movie alien that just like drops big giant slimy eggs on it. I think we have a little bit of a different audience. I think they prefer Sex and the City too. Well, those are like aliens also. Those are aliens. That is true. It is Adrian Maloof got temporary custody because Paul apparently choked and abused their children. Oh, I don't buy it for a second. I do not believe that. I'm invited to an event. Oh, I'm sorry. I just want to say real quick, someone tweeted me a request to make a GIF of the first episode of this show where they showed Adrian in her like karate class or whatever kicking people's asses. Does she still have tinsel in her hair because that takes away all of your badass skills? Anywho, I got invited to an Adrian Maloof party tomorrow night. I don't think it's at her mance and I secretly want to go, but I also secretly want to burn it down because I'm team Vanderpump. Why would you not go? Because I have a date. RSVP and say Ronnie and Ben will be coming instead. Ben gets no more treats after this vacay, okay? Excuse me, do you have stain resistant dockers? No, I don't. You're right. I don't. I would have to go to Ross. Are they pleated or flat front? You got no, I really don't have them. I don't have any. I have sweatpants. That's pretty much it because I've gained so much way they can't fit in any. Shut up. I know a lot of bad eating when I was out east and I at this point I'm prepared to just wear a garbage bag around my waist like like an old-fashioned hobo. You're supposed to celebrate with the hell am I celebrating? Nothing. Yeah, did you have a good Rosh Hashanah sidebar? Another year that I'm alone. My Rosh Hashanah was lovely. Thank you very much. Your Instagram photo of the spread was amazing. All that was on the table is Kala. Well, I miss cargo hydrates and I would really like eat some Hala. It was I was drooling looking at that photo. Nothing but Kala for Heather. All right, Rob's just ran an eight and drank into my Jesus. Ronnie, what other fucking gossip do you have because we have to talk about these shows? The man's of brothers fresh out their success with BLK, by the way, are opening up a restaurant. Did you guys hear about that? I did. I took the nut fresh of the non-event that was BLK. Okay, what would be the name of the restaurant you guys? Two guys, a girl and a fat bitch mom. I was going to say something not just funny, so I'm not even a bother. Some of the mooks and I don't know, grease. Wait, where's their apartment in here? Hoboken. Hoboken. Be like something about like two meatballs and I don't know why I have to start with two and everything. I have to start with two things and it's something. Meatball, balls, whatever that. Did you guys ever see that reality show like America's Next Great Chain Restaurant? I watched like five seconds of it. All right, some Italian guy was like, mine is called mom's balls and it's all about my mom's meatballs and they're like, yeah, that's probably not a winning name. I just don't trust these guys, these idiots with any sort of business enterprise after seeing like their trip to to that food convention. After seeing their disgusting food spread at the brunch this week, I don't want to eat anything that they're dirty, grubby hands of touch. Yeah, I mean the one, the one saving grace for them is that their parents have been in the like the restaurant industry for several years. I'm, I'm only, you guys can't see me right now, but I'm rolling my eyes up up and just said because it's like, um, I don't want to eat their nasty pot. What do they know about making pasta? Sosh, they're only one 16th Italian. They're gonna be serving fish sticks with peach sauce and um, in a calzone. I love that, I love that these assholes, especially Caroline, who is just has a stick up her ass all season is making fun of Teresa and her family and shit. And then all she's doing really is pimping her fucking children on this show so that they can go out and sell their own shit products. Fuck you. I know the best part was when she was talking about how her chill, you know, everyone says that her kids are spoiled, but her kids work for a living. And then they show clips of her just handing her kids' businesses. Yeah, like, yeah, yeah, I'm sure how did, how the hell did Lauren manage to rent out, you know, Chateau, okay, the old Chateau. It was handed to her. And you know, that was a pricey piece of real estate because Chateau was the most well-known, you know, salon in northern New Jersey. Or eco-fauce, whoama, guys. By the way, I liked how the other salon that was featured on this week's episode was called La Chateau Allure. So like Chateau is like a big theme in New Jersey. Everything has to be a Chateau. Everything has to be a Chateau and all of their houses have to look like versions of the Monte Carlo Hotel and Casino Resort in Las Vegas because they are tacky fucks. The funny thing is the houses in Jersey very much resemble the houses in Orange County. There are oversized floor de leads on the asses of their jeans and all over their kitchens, and they all look like faux marble bullshit from Vegas. These are the people that keep Ashley furniture in business. They keep Ashley furniture in business. And I really think, I mean, I'm not to just on home goods because I love a good home goods, but everything is from home goods. Let's not forget, I think that's probably some Z Gallery in there. Oh, there's definitely some Z Gallery and then some more Ashley furniture. And then some more Ashley furniture. Like, I remember the first time I walked into Ashley furniture, I was like, who the hell buys all this like weird, dark woods, like ornate paisley junk. And it's like, oh, it's everyone from New Jersey and Orange County. Sorry, all of our listeners from Jersey and Orange County. If you don't have hideous homes, feel free to post interiors proving us wrong. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. That's all. I think if you honestly, if you live in New Jersey and you shop at any place where there's a wrought iron decorative thing in a religious form, you've got everything wrong. Stop. Oh, there's also a video just to end the gossip. There's a video going around of Melissa performing in, I think, Magic Mountain, like Six Flags. Oh, my God. Which one? Which magic? The one in Valencia, near us? No, I was one in New Jersey. I'm great at New Jersey. Are you kidding? Come into the West Coast. They were horrified. They were like green, you know, green things, roads. What? Yeah, they only let Raven Simone perform with the one in Valencia. I think they probably had her perform at Great Adventures. That way, when people were shrieking from the rollercoasters, she could somehow tell herself they were screaming with enthusiasm for her music. Well, it was gay pride day. It was gay pride day at Six Flags. And so you've got Greg, who's this giant, oh, just standing there, like shuffling back and forth, not saying fucking anything. And then Midget Joe was next to him. Of course, he looks like a thumb next to Greg. And he's like lifting his shirt and trying to get wooze from all the gay guys. He's a little thumb that you and Ben said that you'd both hit. So you better check yourself before you wreck yourself. I have such a thumb every day. I mean, one of five digits. Oh, fuck. You know, this makes me feel so bad for the people in all the gay guys in New Jersey that this is what they get for their gay events is they get Melissa Gorga at the theme park. If any gay people don't live in New York or Los Angeles, it's their fault. It is their fault. Oh, yeah, good arcade life. You stand out on Ben's balcony and see if we can watch MJ somewhere binging on a bowl of meat. And then and then abusing her fat little chihuahuas. I cannot wait. I mean, this is what makes the world go around. Yeah. Welcome to the neighborhood. Listen, we have to, we have to deride the gays in New Jersey so that way we can feel better about our pathetic existence here in Hollywood where it should be really awesome and exciting and it's not. Yeah, no, it's not. So let's go on and talk about the shows now. Let's start with Real House as of New York to me because it was recent and it was crazy. Shut up Aviva. Jesus Christ. I hate her. I hate her with all of my being. Now, I've, you know, Matt, you'll be so happy to know that I'm 100% on Team Heather now. Like, finally, what took you so long? Well, because she was a passive aggressive bitch for the first part of the season, but she was just paving the way. She was just sort of, I think, getting her spills out. But now Aviva is, no wonder Russia, Shauna, no more of those terms. Listen, we're talking about Aviva and Aviva is a Jewess if I ever met one. And so I can use any sort of sounds around Aviva. Okay, fine. But gosh, she is off her rocker. I mean, she has made me have sympathy for Sonia and Ramona and they're, they're off their rockers too. Exactly. Ronnie, don't you think that when people like Ben and myself who hate Sonia and Ramona, you know, beyond belief, when we're starting to have sympathy for them because of Aviva, don't you think that there's a serious problem there? Yeah, I think that that's how reality shows work. They make you hate people and then they redeem them by having more hateful people from on. And then you're just so conflicted that you have to keep watching it. Here's the thing. I mean, with Aviva, you know, all season long, we were like, gosh, like she does nothing. She does nothing. And now she's flipped her lid and we're like, shut up. And on top of that, you know what I don't like about her is really the righteous element of her screaming. You know, she, I wrote down this quote. She talks like a school mom. She does. I wrote down this quote because she said, I think to Sonia, where she says, don't confuse anger with ranting and raving. I'm sorry. That's actually exactly what ranting and raving is. That's anger and angry people rant and rave. So what is she talking about? And only assholes say quotes from the dictionary about, you know, specific definition. Shut the fuck up. I know. The fact that we had to have the definition of white trash trotted out, like, um, team times, this episode was ridiculous. Here's the funny thing. Sonia admits that she likes to get drunk, sleep around with dudes and that she's having money problems and that she's kind of white trash. She doesn't need an asshole like Aviva to tell her that. Aviva is just projecting her own insecurities about her playboy father onto these women. And that's, that's the problem with it. Well, one of the other pieces of gossip that I, that was down at the bottom of the page, so sorry, is that Ramona and Sonia have been accused of being really, really wasted. I mean, we've seen them drug, but you know, last night they all started making comments about how Ramona and Sonia are always wasted. Apparently, they've cut a bunch of the stuff of them just falling all over the place because this whole season, all they've been doing is getting wasted and acting like assholes. Well, Ramona rebutted with another article because, you know, the housewives all fight in articles. Yeah. So Ramona rebutted with her own article that was saying that Carol was high the whole time of St. Barthes. And she was so high that she couldn't even tell what was going on. Okay, let's call a spade a spade. Ramona and Sonia were fucking loaded. Carol was high as a kite. Luann was fucking some French dudes. And Heather was probably just passed out because she smashed her nose. Yeah. Exactly. Aviva was jealous. Actually, what I really think went, sorry to cut you off. No worries. But I think that, look how civil we are. It's only because there's, you know, glasses near us. Yeah, that's a new Jew year. It's a new Jew year. But anyway, I think actually the real root of Aviva's hostility is that I think she was upset with these women from something that they did in Miami. When they read her condo, I think they annoyed her in a certain way. And she kept it in because she's trying to be nice. And then they did this thing with her fundraiser and that pissed her off. And then the this whole ridiculous thing with the read. Yeah, read. I think that really what she just had something festering inside of her. No, you're right. I think that she's on a rampage and she can't be stopped. It was really kind of like three strikes for them. And I mean, for her. And look, they're annoying. They're obnoxious. They're terrible. But, you know, a lot of times I think that these new women are trying to really, you know, secure themselves another season on this show. The difference with Aviva is she is so fucking crazy and pissed off and angry right now that everything that comes out of her mouth is so righteous and she truly does believe it. She's not making a play for another season. She's just fucking nuts. She is. Well, I think that she's watched it. I think that they watch it. I think she made the same mistake Heather did. Heather watch a show. She saw what a asshole Ramona was. And she said to herself, if I go on that show, I'm not taking that woman's shit. And every one of the country is going to back me up because Ramona is a crazy bitch. But the thing is Ramona has a way of being a crazy bitch and still entertaining you. So people tend to be on her side. So, Aviva probably filming these scenes thinks that everyone's going to love her. And now that she's watching them and everyone hates her. Oh, she must just be a wreck. I love it. I love imagining Aviva sobbing on her couch and cradling her leg like it's a teddy bear. A very stiff teddy bear. Yes. More like a teddy rucks that. Yeah. She had a terrible youth read. Didn't you hear me? I came home. Why didn't you welcome me home? Where's my welcome home read? Where's my banner? Where's my banner? Go down there and thank the Lomo driver. Get on your knees and thank him for bringing me home. I want a party. I want a banner. And I want a helicopter from Shirei. I want an ice cream cake. She doesn't fucking eat. Are you kidding? I want a bouquet of flowers. Oh my gosh. She needs to just stop it. She needs to meet you there and go to lunch and they both just need to shut up together. The funny thing is you mentioned Heather a minute ago. I think that a few episodes into the show Heather realized like Ramona is so fucking crazy. There's like no point in like battling her that much. So you can see that at the same time that Heather kind of backs up and just is like I'm not going to engage with Ramona is the time that Aviva ramps up her crazy fight with her and Heather's just like Heather's looking like a saint at this point. Yeah. Oh exactly. The thing is this Heather was never righteous with Ramona and you know what Ramona really wasn't that righteous and same with Sony with any of their fights and the truth is this. Sonya is off her rocker but when she was defending herself against Aviva I thought she defended herself very well. She was drinking water not wine and she was very direct and she was like listen you said some really nasty things about me. You can't take them back. And then Aviva is the one who's fakier. Aviva's the one who starts off this luncheon saying ugh well you know I love you you know and I say this because I love you and then all of a sudden next thing you know she's saying she's saying the nastiest things to Sonya. I don't even remember it's like a blur by the way. It was the most nasty thing I mean look going after the children is bad slash I love it. Some other people think it's inappropriate but when Aviva is sitting across from that table from Sonya and she goes I have never seen such a sad sight in my life. A woman like you on a downward spiral your life has fallen apart. I mean it was so it was more condescending than anything Luann has ever said and that is saying a lot. I think I have seen a woman on a downward spiral. I think it's called Aviva trying to dance. She's sort of hurling on down to the dance floor. She's literally she's literally getting a heel stuck in the dance floor and it's turning around the circles and spiraling. Really spinning downwards. Downward. Yeah I was actually really proud of Dumbass Sonya. I mean I think Sonya is one of the biggest drunkest squittiest sluts ever and I actually completely agree with everything that Aviva says. I just wish she would say it 5,000 times. You make a good point. You're right. Because everything she is saying is right and Sonya's daughter should be ashamed and Sonya should be ashamed of being a horrible mother. She is getting fucked up the butt in front of cameras and people who were talking about her getting past around an order of trying. It's gross and she should she should be a better mom and she shouldn't be marrying senior citizens who shit themselves just to get their money and then be shocked when she doesn't get it and they leave her first. I don't know. Sonya I think is kind of gross but I was really proud of her for not taking any of Aviva's bullshit and just saying no I don't forgive you. I don't like you. The end. I don't like and she's still eight. She didn't just show up. She ate that girl. She ate the shit out of that greasy pizza through her napkin down and pieced out and was like bitch you picking up the tag. As she should she had hurricane iron damages to tend to. She did. She had a house slimmer. She had to call the plumber. She needed to go fist the toilet for the blackberry and she was going to eat that greasy truffle infused pizza and piece out. And by the way Aviva has no moral high ground to stand on here because she was the one who tried to hook up Sonya with her sexaholic father and I'm sorry. And this is the father that's going to um a cost Ramona on next week's episode and grab her you know batwing. Yeah Aviva. Aviva is a disaster. Oh yeah and yeah she's going to get the payoff next week with her old rapist father and I have to make a side note here and explain some one of my friends was giving me shit who listens to the show giving me shit for how much shit I'm always giving Andy Cohen because I just he seems so nice like I'd love to hang out with Andy Cohen but I think he is so bad his job and I was watching watch what happens live I guess last night he's getting he's getting drunk and lazy on that show. It's always been drunken lazy but he's just so bad okay he's got Ramona and he's got Liz from Gallery Girls okay you've got crazy and total ice bitch from hell. You have so much to talk about add a little more barber Walters and a little less used car salesman. Why are you playing a fucking game? It's like hey is this a good outfit or a bad outfit guys? Why aren't you doing that? Why aren't you asking Liz who raped her as a baby? Why is she such a fucking bitch? Why aren't you asking Ramona when her first AA meeting is? Like why aren't you asking them if they think Luanne's fur coat is attractive? You fucking moron. I'm not. As stop getting wasted and pull in a little sensitivity and start asking people about their fucking lives. I don't want to see you play a game. He's pissing away valuable time with good with good guests. I mean look I love the Sarah Jessica Parker's of the world but it's better when he has the actual show people on and I want him to ask these you know probing questions. I want to know why Liz has a body full of hideous tattoos that she got into you want. And I'll be able to tell you a little bit about those tattoos. Thanks to Maggie. Did she tell it to you and her baby voice? We'll get there. Her baby voice is kind of like her voice. Well not really a baby voice it's more just like Maggie. Okay so what else happened during New York because I remember watching the episode I felt like it lasted for seven hours and all it was was different one-on-one lunch dates. Okay so here's what it was when Aviva was not talking about how difficult it was for her to fly down there. There was a little bit which I thought was hilarious of Luanne trying to overcompensate for her cheating ass by being really affectionate with Jacques and the way she framed it was I didn't want Jacques to get the wrong impression so so I've just been really trying to show how much I love him. I'm like you are so guilty that's what a guilty person does that's exactly what a guilty person does Luanne. And a guilty person is normally smart enough to realize not to be on a reality TV show if you're gonna lie this fucking much and make up a story about maybe we should have a baby. Yep that's the right impression because there is no right impression she one camera picked up a guy took him home and just brings out like you know what this is I feel like this is the return of season one Luanne who was a man here well she was like above it all like all the other girls fought and season one Luanne just did whatever she wants and she was sort of hottie and we all sort of loved her for just being a hottie waspie like woman well she went faster than the other she was and then she sort of got dragged down into the drama but I think this season she's at the beginning she got into it a little bit but lately she's sort of just been above it all and just coming to lunch Ramona's stalking me okay I gotta go meet Jacques yeah that was honestly her biggest moment and then like you know the thing with when she was wearing like the reindeer antlers but like come or when she decided to be an algonquin chief and say that her people were rapist mohawk tomahawk but you know the thing 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talking about it anymore okay i love we are so savage to her and yet we love her but we love her i mean nobody gives better confessional you know you pick like the pephette phrase like nobody gives better face on like a tire show yeah nobody gives better confessional than fucking carol she's really loosened up i mean in the beginning of the season her her confessional felt a little forced they weren't great no she straight up hates all the other women she is friends with heather and hates the rest of them but but she but she maligns them in a way that's very sly and clever without being abrasive the way uh Bethany was you know i mean Bethany was very funny too but carol does it in a way where she could sort of not they couldn't really falter for it at the reunion right like aviva will sit down and say well i think that aviva was meeting with heather and carol for lunch and she sits sits down and she starts immediately ripping into ramona and carol just laughs and is like tell us how you really feel which means like she agrees with what aviva is saying but she gets off without being a super bitch you get the impression that carol is the only one in this franchise or perhaps any of these franchises who has ever really sort of seems to be approaching this like an anthropological study well yes i do think that this is going to end up being like a special on front line where she's going to win an Emmy and she's going to be like i was never there getting paid it was just a it was a study yeah it was it was like me and the in the bush and yeah i was under cover i was like alastasal i was embedded in ramona yeah it was worse than iraq i used to know barrow waters peter jennings always love me it sounds oh well what about okay speaking of peter jennings who died of cancer because he was a smoker has taken up smoking pink cigarettes and aviva lost her shit wait because of your jennings die i don't i think did i know that i feel so sad oh well jennings said about like eight years ago eight years ago oh my god peter jennings god bless you pretty man i thought he was just relaxing somewhere well i guess in st barts you can't fucking relax in st barts clearly you're probably thinking of the ground you think of ted koppel oh god bless you brian i'm so sad now or adapt to quit the podcast now go cut yourself like demi levato let's have a moment for peter jennings peter i love the way you looked at the camera like it was staring at you the remiss you remember that time it was my mentor remember that time you hugged me and then you apologized and i was like what that's not an appropriate do it again all black peter seminary memories maybe i'm thinking of brian williams brian williams is alive and well and still looking hot on nbc peter jennings was abc ronnie well whatever ben just mentioned this a second ago though um she's probably gonna get off scott free at the reunion luan was tweeting today oh no they are taping the reunion tomorrow it's going to be remona is sending stories out that carol was high and on drugs and all this shit she's not she's gonna get she's gonna get in big trouble because everyone thinks carol is the sweet piece making one which she is but the the shit she's been saying about him has been less vicious than a lot of you know like carol he had a certain um desperation to her you know that made her kind of sound like fighty and carol doesn't have that edge to her but she still said a lot of shit about these people and they'll bring it up yeah but she'll be unfazed because again she's just sort of looking at it like i am i run in circles that are much more powerful than you and i am just doing this for my own entertainment yeah i mean i don't think that she's going to get too much shit i mean if anything remona is going to go at her for a little bit but only because remona is feeling threatened um i do however think that the couches will be split based on hair color i think it's gonna be brunettes versus blondes and this whole season i've been team brunette um who knows what aviva's gonna have to go sit in the corner because everybody hates that bitch yeah i don't i don't even know what the car i think they're just all gonna be sitting on their own separate chairs i think it'll be like the old phil donahue show they all have a little chair they look like her aldone what someone will throw a chair or jenny jones i love making 20-year-old references that's like my favorite thing ever this will be like morton downy jr or rolanda what about roa oh yeah she was good or christina she's still around oh x team not x gonna be all beat me up scottie um did anything else happen on new york uh no i didn't even move on to that i i put in new york i think that's done it was just aviva it was aviva being a fucking asshole okay well i will also say this um thank god that this season flipped the switch about four episodes in they went down you know you know they jumped the tracks they went crazy the ratings are up up up good they are back where they belong around two million viewers um they started around 1.3 so clearly the crazy is working for them yeah and but let's move on to jersey back to my seat now in jersey okay can i say something about this jersey episode the whole build up was for this guy this like low rent howie mandel who is already pretty low rent who is a straight gay assistant out of crappy hair salon on the side of a freeway yeah it was supposed to like announce that melissa at the posh fashion show that melissa used to dance for him that was in the very last minute of the entire episode i felt so duped and first of all this guy was the worst producer plant of all time he could not recite he could not recite his lines for the life of him he could not have been more awkward just to be like oh uh i'm familiar with your sister-in-law she used to dance from me back in the day yeah he made terisa look like merrill fucking street yeah right right running yeah no no i didn't know you did your validation yeah i need validation otherwise my life is worthless no i totally agree and what was he supposed to be working for her i don't understand why he was there he was supposed to be working for kim d and kim d is like shining a flashlight on his face like all right say what you got to say here he is speaking of work at your sister used to work for me how is brit club she was a dancer everyone missed her because she gave the best blow jobs deal or no deal which jersey's got talent which briefcase would you like to open i have robot howie mando don't shake my hand i'm i have ocd an add or whatever that's called and what sort of po dunk you know salon hire is the former owner of a strip club to do their PR yeah a classy joint that serves corebell yeah um and you have to walk through some plastic jewels to get into the upstairs rickety ass makeup chair and they played jody wotley on the loudspeakers i mean we would go there but terisa's too classy for that shit and by the way talking speaking of kim how sad is this woman i has anybody that's not a real housewife maybe besides dana willky ever made such a hard play to be a sucking housewife kim jee kim jee well kim jee was the original kim jee was the original kiss ass and kim d is now you know she one thing that's been missing from kim d are her oversized tj max wine goblets that say sassy lady on them that were written in like hot puppy pain and slash i've already made a sense see if she if she had brought those to chateau lawler or whatever it was called or la chateau alert then you know then i might have been on her side but without the goblets forget about it i love it's a vile and i love that she you know the whole episode opens with her calling melissa oh hi melissa it's me kim t you may have heard that i was saying really mean things about you has been you know sometimes i say stupid things and i get caught and this is one of those times so i'd like to say i'm sorry i'd love if you come to my fashion show i'm really sorry i'm really sorry and then five minutes later she's telling chorissa i called her i said if you think i did something that i'm sorry that's not the same thing that well it's also not an apology either way yeah and you totally did do something and you're probably right about midget joe being a total crook and con man but i just love that it didn't even make it on the show now she had to call and remind someone that she actually could have had a plotline do you guys think that melissa is a forgiving soul and she's just like a lamb out to slaughter or in order for her to have a storyline continue she has to make up with all these women in order she's forgiving i think she's forgiving you're crazy this is a bitter ex-stripper who saw her famous sister-in-law getting all the attention schemed her ass onto the show by talking shit to a castmate who she knew would bring it up in a reunion just to get herself on the show which she finally got and now she's pretending she's all nice all these scenes they've reached out so that melissa is acting like oh what baby's sitting tressa's kids and we're getting along so well it's fake we know it's fake doesn't mean she's not forgiving she could be all that and forgiving because that stuff happened way after the posh fashion show they're adding all those scenes in trying to make it look like oh melissa was so forgiving and then tressa stabbed her in the back okay ronnie i i'm not team melissa by any means but why do you think bravo is trying to position her like that i mean i think the melissa as the good girl is going to get old really fucking fast they need to have her on a really high cross so they can rip her ass down from it yeah that's true too please are we getting to that point where we're gonna build her up build her up in the next season she's going to be the one to get torn down for you know being a prostitute stripper oh yeah please god i mean they're done with tressa what the whole she gonna do now tressa actually had a protective response to this howie mandel guy she actually was like i don't want to hear it you know which was probably the first genuinely um i believe standing thing she's ever done since the gorgas came on the show totally agree that was legitimate she would have gone to the show i said melissa um that guy over there i just want to warn you that this is what he told me and i don't want there to be any trouble in that i actually don't think that she thought that that creepy dude was going to show up at the dinner at the posh fashion show because clearly he was an assistant at a hair salon and he was a plant at the fashion show i think that she was really taken aback when he showed up and she actually was speechless yeah my god do you guys will fall for any damn thing oh my god i'm so gullible i i love falling over it both well you're full of shit you honestly believe tressa had nothing to do with that i'm not full of well i guess well i don't think tressa had that guy come to be honest i just think she sells every story to life and life and style or life and touch or touch my life or i don't think she got the guy to come i think that was kimdi but she knew what was gonna happen and she could have worn a list and she did and i think that she enjoyed it but here's the thing have you seen Melissa perform like the song the songs that she wants she comes out and like a thong and fishnet stockings and like a bra and driver it's a viva dresser over here i mean i know ronnie like you're such a prue like every pop star wears that if not less you guys but i'm saying what's the embarrassment with being a stripper like what's the difference like at least she had a job why is she acting like a stripper she's doing the same thing now like because you're lip-syncing to a song that your husband paid like half a million dollars to make for you that makes you somehow classier you're still a hoe gyrate and you're shit around for money bitch do you think laura you think laura manzo will ever turn to the pole well i've been to a bar called the fault line which is a bear bar here oh my god i went for the first time on saturday night and they made fun of me in the bar for being too skinny i walked in with a few of my friends and we turned around and we walked right back out and we asked for our money back and outside they were these big mean bears smoking and they were like oh thank god that benaton ad is leaving uh how rude i think that's pretty funny that's pretty good actually where you were somewhere north dear where they just talking about your clothes um you wearing benaton how progressive of you i was just wearing like a polo but everybody else in there was like wearing like dirty beer stained shredded sweats songs yeah and like peeing on each other okay well the reason i bring it up is because they've got like 350 pound 400 pound strippers i mean these dudes are in like thongs so yeah that's the other reason why we left i think that laura could come work in the gay bar fault line in a song and uh you know she has a mustache and a fucking full-on beard too that is assuming that her business isn't as successful as this the bailie agency down in atlanta that's true yeah laura i'm selling makeup candy egg salad and cereal and rice chrispies and pillow shams and uro shams and new tiles and i'm also going to sell i'm gonna sell cell phones come from because i'm looking at it at at a uro sham in my bedroom right now so i'm thinking about you oh i'm also selling bedrooms sets of cafes oh my god europe fans make stencils onto them um sides of pens in case people lose the inside part of their kit selling slow cookers so if you want to take one of my egg salad sandwiches and put in the slow cooker and make us something with it i'm going to throw up if you keep talking about laura and manzo handling egg salad i'm really gonna vomit i'm also gonna sell egg salad bites if you only want to have a little bit of you only have the lap band and can only take so much in with the egg salad bites made by my brother my brother albie i'm gonna be selling baby spoons they're just big enough to take a little tiny bite of things that you like so if you want some butter you could just have a little tiny bite instead of a whole stick and then i'm gonna sell some really big spoons that you hide from when you take big bites but you don't want people to know you took a big bite and then you hide them under your europe fan you hide it in the euro sham which is really full of butter and egg salad gonna hide insert for couch couch cushions so that when you shove wrappers there while you're watching tv they won't attract buds you just have to pull up wine and you'll get all of crumbs and trash out of it when people are like this feels weird when i sit on it you just tell them it's one of those thermo mattresses thermo whatever we saw those two we saw those two we saw mattresses the thermo foam they look like q-tips but they're really long and they're not for your ears they're for those creases that when you're sitting on the couch watching tv you could just lift up your stomach and clean in the crease and get the orange crapper dust out of there we also sell soccer balls so that when people come in you're like no i i'm not i'm not eating i'm playing soccer i'm i'm a healthy lifestyle we're also going to sell they breadsticks from olive garden yeah there i can only eat when bite at a time but they were limited so i get baskets of them and i put them in bags and if i think they're going to turn to dry before i can get a chance to eat a bite of them i'll put them out in the front of the store you know how some some people have mints i'll have breadsticks and she's gonna call them fucking biscotti i think they got hard i know we're gonna put on the biscotti if they're too dry i'm gonna take my my big hidden spoon and put some egg salad onto the scotty ah and i'm going to eat the biscotti oh also is selling because it's we do cosmetics we have a shampoo and but the shampoo is actually egg salad and you put it in your hair it does really great things for your hair and then we also say sell uh razors so if you want to exfoliate your face like my mom you just shave your face even if you know here how could i forget that caroline shaves her face like a man yeah that's the sort of beauty tip you get a good face oh well then i'm glad that lauren manza's gonna turn the entire state of new jersey into bearded fucking women with egg salad with egg salad did anything else happen what did you oh jackaland talk to my new next door neighbor yeah um ashley who got more tattoos the um alby's yes trashy tattoos out she got a tattoo that said uh um when when he when he went he was about to say how dumb they are for not knowing what it is but it's the famous julia cesar quote i came i saw her concrete and the best sucking fucking five dollar it's that like japanese yeah but i love how japan had even heard of it i mean look i can't remember i was his last and i can't remember when he would eat whatever it was but at least when i see it on paper i know exactly what it is even if i can't say yeah so the only person that's going to be seeing that is the dude that's taking her from behind and pulling her hair up yeah behind the former 2020 video that closed down and became a paint shop wait the porn store is not open neuros anymore it's a benjamin more that's why i moved into this neighborhood and soon to be a kaface i'm sure soon to be kaface the store to kaface west kaface west i love it um oh it's gonna think it's a pet store the x-factor yes or no of course uh i haven't seen it yet i do not watch it but i was posted the recap on tv gasm and the first video she's posting is of jedward do you know who they are i'm obsessed with them they were on uk they were on the uk version and their reality tv stars and their best friends with terra read love them they were on celebrity big brother in uh england or britain what do you say england or britain because people always nobody says england uk whatever i'm stupid so them i love them jedward okay um the other thing is kathy brought kathy brought her desserts into the bendy place and rich rich kids are making so many bad jokes and inappropriate jokes he's so disgusting he is disgusting see where jokes about his wife yeah he that i i actually was clutching my pearls i joke about clutching my pearls but i actually did when he made the c-word comment about his wife during that i was disgusting yeah why does she bring him why does she bring him why are any of these women with any of these men kathy is amazing she's a good mother um rich is a good guy and he's crude he's a good guy he's crude and but here's a thing like i actually think that kathy out of all these dumb whores that think that they have like business plans kathy can actually make desserts that look amazing and delicious and if she were able to find a way to freeze them and put them in a grocery store i would buy them i would honestly get her cookbook especially if someone sent it to us for free i would make free copies i would make some of the desserts and yes please autograph and i would make the desserts and we could try them here yeah i would i would just try them because i can't cook and you're also living a healthy lifestyle you you're you're in the laurin i'm a secret i'm a secret eater though at night oh with your big spoon with my big spoon and my i'm gonna borrow a euroshan before i leave but all the eggs allad um i don't i don't i can't remember really anything else from the episode so should we go on to miami or do we have any other please anything else happen on jersey you guys i can't oh oh i wanted to say one more thing about all the drama that was happening someone put in the comments which i know is not the new york times but i take comments very seriously you guys especially on items oh and someone left in the comments on on the recap that that all that drama there's a producer from new jersey that got fired right after all of this happened and they're they're saying that when they check they're they're all checking their phones at the same time when they're sitting around that table and the producer is telling them that this guy what's about to happen that this guy's about to come up and confront taresa and that it was all produced from manipulation and taresa actually did not know this guy she didn't set it up and she actually was surprised and this was all produced from manipulation to make taresa look stupid and ben and i are buying that whole fucking story yeah well that's what they're saying that it was some producer i think her name is carol and she got fired so that's the rumor so i don't know if that's true or not but i just have to share juicy comments and thank you for whoever left that juicy comment account that was that was great are we ready to head right that was fantastic are we ready to head 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