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This episode of Watch What Crapins is brought to you by GameFly. Go to gamefly.com/forwardhaha for your free 15-day trial. Come on, bitch, bitch, let's go. Hey everybody, welcome to Watch What Crapins, a podcast dedicated to all that crap that you and we love on Bravo. I'm Matt Whitfield from Yahoo TV, and joining me as always are my two trusty sidekicks, Ronnie Karam from TV Gasm and Ben Mandelker from B-Side Blogs. Say hello boys. We have so much to discuss tonight. This is our 26th episode. Thank you all for tuning in. Before we get started with the Real Housewives of Orange County Reunion Part 2 and the latest episodes of Jersey and New York, we have to mention our Twitter handles and give props to our friends over at the sideshow network for putting this together. First and foremost, you guys should definitely go to iTunes and download this. Podcasting all of our past episodes, and when you're on Twitter, you should follow our show @WhatCrapins. You should follow me at @LifeOnTheMlist and @YahooTV. Follow Ben @B-SideBlog, follow Ronnie @TVGasm and don't forget to like us on Facebook because we have a new page where you can interact with us. Yes, you know, I'm so glad that in our last episode when we interviewed Jill's Aaron, we decided not to mention any of that. I know, I know, but here's another thing. One day and I have so much caffeine and iced coffee that I'm bouncing off the wall. So I am bouncing. We have knocked all of that out, but again, as Ben just mentioned, we did tape an episode earlier today. I don't know if any of you remember the very special episode of Growing Pains where Tracy Gold's boyfriend died, but our very special episode was earlier today. We had Jill's Aaron on former Real Housewife of New York City, and it's an amazing episode. That is also currently live on iTunes right now. Check it out. It's a long one. We barely get a word in edgewise, but it's Jill, so we let her off the hook. Yes, she knows how to talk, and you know what? She's listening right now, and we can't say anything bad because she she made us swear on our generations of children. I'm thinking not here us right now because she's saying, damn it, I told them to be nice. She's talking. She's so mad at us. You guys, how good of a sport was she? She was very good. She was a good sport. You know what? She got some shit, man. She's good. She you know what? She cleared some things up. She gave us some gossip. She she rolled with a punches. You know, that's that's all that we ask for. That's all we want. Okay, Jill is one of those kinds of people that I love to be friends with because she says so much shit that she should not be saying and that she doesn't understand why everybody's pissed off at her. She's now she's like, what could you believe that? Could you believe it was the editing? You got a lot. They love me in Europe. It's like a Jill girl. You just said so many nasty things about Andy and Bethany without even taking a breath and you're like, why? Why am I not? She's gonna come back on and she's gonna fight you into this. She's gonna fight you. It's kind of funny because we called Jill in and we didn't tape it the way we normally tape it, but Ben, Ronnie and I could see each other, I guess, but I wasn't really paying attention. But we couldn't see Jill and Jill couldn't see us and she just kept rambling and rambling and rambling and at some point I was like, oh my god, this woman is talking so much shit about people. It's out of control. But it wasn't you know, it wasn't really nasty. I didn't think it was like crazy nasty shit. It wasn't nasty, but I was more like, oh, she delivered she delivered the goods tonight. Yeah, it was more like it wasn't that she was talking shit. It was more like she wasn't pulling any punches necessarily. That's what I like. We will be we will be hard pressed to find another celebrity, a Bravo Liberty guest that will dish as much as Jill. And on that topic, I want Brandi, anybody else, who would you die to have as our guest? Brandi Glanville. Oh, God. You know, she'd be awesome. Right. She would be fantastic. Right. She'd be guaranteed to be like four bottles in, right? She would make Jill seem like the Jawadra Countess on Downton Abbey. Like I would never say that because Jill, Jill definitely was like, she was awesome. She, she, she totally like, she did not like, she didn't hold back. She, she was unfiltered, but Brandi, oh man, you know, she'd be unfiltered and then some, you know, she would just be talking shit. Ronnie, is she your dream guest as well? She wasn't my original thought, but now that it said, I'm down with that. I would probably say Lisa, but probably maybe not. She might be a little too filtered. Lisa Wu Hartwell or Lisa Vanderpond? Oh, Vanderpond. Could you imagine, could you know, still talk some shit? Could you imagine if Ronnie's ideal candidate was Lisa Wu Hartwell? Gosh, my favorite would be Sharay. I would like Sharay at the right amount of bitterness to make it work. Yeah. And she really also can't string a proper sentence together. So it would make for a great podcast. Well, you know what? She would, Sharay would be like funny at first and like all should be like demure and everything, but as it warms up and she gets into it as we fire her up. Oh man, she would then she would go crazy. Well, the two of you do me a favor and reenact Sharay's incident from her Africa trip with Marla right now because I just love it every time. I think it's something like that. That that will be our first impression of the evening. There will be many more to come because at this point, I can't live without a Carol Radz will don't do it yet. Don't do it yet. Okay. And by the way, I would like to I would like to say this right at the top of the show. I actually really like Carol and think she's funny and she's smart and she's accomplished and we just rail on her for no good reason except that we're going for Halloween as Carol Radz will. No, I'm going as Susie Orman. Oh, that's right. I forgot. Oh, how dare I? Okay. Anyway, before we get to New York and before we get to Jersey, we do have to start with the Real Housewives of Orange County. It was the reunion. Yeah. Part two. This season has been off the fucking chain. In my opinion, I know Ronnie has a different take on the whole thing. He thinks it's pure shit. I will preface it by saying I do not like any of the women on the show, but goddamn did I love this season. Yes, it was. I didn't love the season, but I liked the season. I was happy with it. I'm man. By the way, this second part of reunion. Wow. Well, we're gonna get in that second though, because Ronnie, you've pulled up some awesome gossip just now two seconds ago, right? Oh, yeah. Well, first I'd like to clarify that. Yes, I think that Real Housewives of Orange County kind of blows, but I've really enjoyed it the past few weeks when they've kind of marinated in their horribleness. You know, it's like these women realize that they're getting boring towards the end and they try and save their jobs at the last second. They just go to see word town. When they get Desperado, nothing, they don't hold anything back. I mean, they were at the end of this reunion, particularly, was disgusting. The things that they did to each other in the last five minutes, it's like, and that mystery where every 10 little Indians were like, everybody just get off one by one. Oh, no. We needed a Silkwood shower. It was, it was, it was borderline like a Tennessee Williams, Edward Albie play. Like, you know, we're like the deep, the deep shit comes out at the end. You're like, Oh, that's the secret that's been underlying all of this all the time. But with way worse English. I mean, even Vicki, I was like Vicki, I mean, really come on one proper word, one proper word. The only person with half a brain on the show, Breonna. Oh my God, too smart for that shit. And I love where Vicki's like, shut up, Breonna. I know, Mom, I'm sorry to shut up. Okay, we'll get to the gossum. Tell us the gossum. Tell us the gossum. Tell us the gossum. Tell us the gossum. I'm the worst. You give me a lead, and I just start talking about I'm like, cereal, I love cereal. All right. Let me see here. So, this is Jim Belina. I'm reading stupid housewives. I love this lady. She cracks me up, and she's always got really good gossip on here. And today she's talking about Jim Belina scammer pro banned from eBay. Authentication business shutdown. Feds gave Jim, but one year probation, Jim Bo's Craigslist ad creative financing. How Belina's got on R H O C. So which do you want to know about? Because that's a lot of story. You just said a lot of stuff. And I don't know what any of it meant, except for Craigslist. Not that that says anything about me and my personal life. It does. Oh, I have not pre read this, but I would love to know how they got on. Orange County got on the show. And that was one thing I wanted to ask as Aaron as well was what the audition process was like, but God damn, if I don't know a lot about her damn dog now. I'm sorry. I kept asking about Ginger. I just went on a tangent. I don't know what happened to me. You were having you were having a moment with Jill's Aaron, Matt. You were in love with her. Jill's Aaron is willing to come back any week, anytime we want. So we will get more out of Jill about the casting process. But where in those notes on Jim Belina was there, something about the trampoline part? Because that's all I care about. Well, I didn't find that, but you did say Craigslist. So I found that. So while looking for Jim Belina's pawn shop and or loans, SH found an ad written all in caps that he plays for his financial services on Craigslist in February 2010, wouldn't in which Jim both states that he's using his own money. No games. This is my private money. If you have collateral, just email your scenario and I will email back terms. That simple. California real estate, another collateral, see below. No credit scores, no job. I don't care. I care about the asset. Real estate business, one, diamonds, jewelry, watches, gold, two, hotos, motorcycles, three, handbag collection. Oh my God. And it just goes on and on, minimum, $10,000 loans, no credit check. Oh my God, of course. Sound any more than I still am with the faux hawk and his and his and his chin is reduced sized chin and his Ed Hardy, like floridily asked jeans. Oh my God. You got a bigger chin, didn't he? Didn't he get an implant? Yeah. This was his 2010 was before his that was when he was so insecure about it. Yeah. Yes. I think that Tamara, one of Tamara's ex breasts is now in his face. I think Tamara and her ex press. So I love that. Do you think it possesses him? Help most definitely. That was some of the most ridiculous backwards plastic surgery we've seen. I mean, let's get real. Orange County delivers the worst in the plastic surgery department. And you would think that that's like the capital of it. Yeah, but it's also the trash of the poorest people trying to be rich. So everything that rocks dress for less does really well there. Two things. One, I go to Ross dress for less. Two in terms of bad plastic surgery and for poor. All right, that's true. But in terms of bad plastic surgery, nothing could get any worse than Danielle Stop going to the mini mall in Jersey to get her shit done. Okay, that is that is the nadier of plastic surgery right there. One light like flickering on the marquee. You know, I won't fight you on that. And I will also say when you bring up Danielle, it does make me realize that her house was even worse in worse condition than Sonya Morgan's. But then again, that was, you know, her carrying her carrying. Yes, you know, Sonya was singled out by the weather there. Okay. But we'll get to Sonya in a bit. So let's, so I guess let's, let's get right into this reunion then, huh? Okay. Well, the first thing that Andy brought up because we, you know, we can't beat this, you know, horse to death anymore is more of the, you know, there was clearly leftover tension between Heather and Alexis. And, you know, the tension ran deep and then it kind of shifted over to Gretchen and tech and Alexis's relationship and their friendship and how that fell apart. Do you think that Gretchen and Alexis can ever mend fences? Like what do we get the status of that is? I think they can mend fences because this was not a terribly deep thing. I mean, this wasn't not like a, this were not like super mean accusations. This is just like a fight. I personally thought that their argument over Fox five news was one of the funniest things we've ever seen on a reunion show. Like all that was missing was Judge Judy to, to take in all this evidence, you know, these emails. When Gretchen doubled the paperwork from Oh, my God, I felt I like learned to shot J.R. Yeah, it was like exhibit a like it was the most compelling court case I'd ever seen. I was like, all like, but even before she whipped out the emails and they're talking about like, well, I was talking to, you know, whatever the, whoever the producer was, Tracy, I was talking to Tracy and she didn't like you. No, she didn't like you. No, well, she told me this. It's like, these girls are so stupid. And they're arguing over this stupid ass assignment. And what, and what an asshole that producer is because you know that they were kind of both telling the truth. Of course. Yeah. Probably to sit talking both of them just so she could ask someone to gossip with about the other one, you know, Vicki didn't pipe up because they probably offered it to her too. But you know, they probably offered it to everybody. Yeah, you know, and you know what? Actually, that produces probably any promotion because look at all, look at the prime amount of televised real estate that stupid Fox five has been getting on Bravo because of the shenanigans. Very true. Very true. Well, if you guys go to Bravo TV.com, you can check out some of the deleted scenes from the reunion, which were really good. There was one with Slade fighting with Alexis. One of the Lexus. Yes. Wow. Oh, because Andy is, and Andy brings up the big Jim Duchin, Bellino, talking about how, you know, the man should take care of the woman and the housewives men should take care of their women and not the other way around. And he says, so do you think that was directed at you? And Slade's like, yeah, it came out the same night that it was talked about on the show. And Alexis is like, I don't think that's about you. And he's like, Alexis, it came out the same night of the show. Well, that doesn't mean anything. And Jim has a right to have a blog. And he has opinions. And I don't even know what they all are. And maybe his opinions are his opinions. And I don't know what they do. He thinks a lot of stuff. And you write it down. Okay, Slade. And Slade's like, what, you know, okay, but can we? She's an idiot. She's an idiot. But I am glad that Bravo didn't give. I'm glad that Slade didn't get any airtime. I'm tired of that shit. Yeah, I'm tired of Slade. This fucking dirty ass t-shirt. It's like, God, I know. Come on, make an effort, dude. You know, Alexis, you know, she, she was lively. But you know, it is really funny when she gets busted, because I think we've mentioned this before. She really gets this look on her face. Like, she just stepped in a big pile of poop, you know, like at the end of this whole Fox five thing, and Tamara just goes, are you still working there? And she's like, uh, no, and she just, she didn't even say no. She just like licked her lips. She did lick it. She licked it up. She didn't know what to say. And that whole email thing, Gretchen's like, well, I have the emails and Alexis is like, is somebody kidding my email? Like, you know, last episode, it's like how evil is she to the crew? And then she's snapping her fingers, like, bringing my goddamn email. I know. And like, and you know that, like, she just, like, the emails are just probably from, like, Jim, like, Jim just wrote her emails and said, like, Dear Alexis, this is your producer. And of course, she's like, Oh, it's coming from Jim's email. But since the producer, oh, the producer must have been on Jim's email by accident. And Gretchen reads emails that had, like, legit sentences as one from Alexis was like, we don't want that. Yeah. And it was so vague, what it was what it was. We don't want that. Me and that always only wanted me. And he's like, it says that no one else is going to be on the show except for you. Yeah. Just like, yeah, like, and Alexis is just projecting all this stuff, like, no, it says that they hate Gretchen and they don't want to see her again. And they hope she drives off the cliff outside of Heather's estate. I know how much I hate Tamara. I mean, I hate there's nobody in the entire Bravo celebrity universe that I hate more than Tamara. But she kind of snatched Andy's balls right there when she was starting to ask the good questions. Do you still work there? Yeah. You know, genius. You know, I loved there was one moment. I don't remember what it was. But someone on the Vicky couch said something that was like, that made them look like looked dumb. And then Bravo just cuts a Tamara and Gretchen and they just quietly looked at each other. Like, they're like, look at that bitch. Look at that bitch over there in that other town. You just look at each other like this most evil, cunning look of a of a of allegiance. And then it was and then they look back at the other couch. And it was so vile and cold. Yeah, it was just like, it was like two seconds max. And I thought it was amazing. Amazing. Well, Chris Manzo had a really I was reading the Twitter today. And Chris Manzo had a really funny tweet where he said, I'm watching our I'm watching Real Housewives of Orange County. And if you just glance at the TV real quick, it looks like the same lady in a different dress. Which is so true. Well, they're besties now. Well, I think he meant the entire cast. You just kind of glance up there at once. And what why does that that coffee table look like a big pork chop? Did anybody notice that balls on the bottom? I didn't notice that. It's like a pork chop from the Flintstones. I don't know why I'm thinking about that right now, but I didn't notice that. I was just I was just thinking like, why do they always have these reunions in giant cavernous spaces? I mean, it's like, it just seems this whole little budget more than usual. This one was like, it was actually on the sound stage, because normally they say, we are here at the scenic restaurant or whatever. And they didn't say anything. So well, they tend to be at some mark because there was a goddamn bird in there. Where would they be? They were probably on stage. Like no birds on the sound stand? Yeah, I think they like roost up in the rafters or something. I think an angry intern released one and knew that like Andy was scared of birds or something. But anyway, before we get into, you know, this episode was so much so focused on Vicki and Brooks and Brianna, let's just quickly address your favorite topic, guys. Bo-gate was brought up by Andy. Oh, yeah. And he asked Heather straight up if she had overreacted with the whole situation at her five year or not, whatever her party was, her naming ceremony. So is Bo-gate put to rest or have to deal with this for the rest of time? Not for me. I've joined I've joined the community center against cake rate. Take back the night. Take the fondant. Take back the fondant. I love it. Yesterday was actually my mom's birthday. And so she had a big, you know, beautiful cake that someone got her. And I almost stuck my finger and took part of the delicious Italian wedding icing off. And I thought, have you learned fucking nothing? Well, how would you do that, Ronnie? He stuck his finger in my cake and ate it. Yeah, those tacky bitches made me a classier bitch. So thank you, Real Housewives of Orange County. I thought Heather had a very nice response, which was not nice. But like her response, I thought was good, which is saying, yeah, I probably overreacted. But it was because she didn't, she would refuse to apologize. It was so crazy. It got me riled up, you know, I would get mad to. Honestly, if I had an idiot, a drunk idiot like that, you know, like Ronnie, who would come and break off a bow. He'd be like, what the fuck? You weren't even invited. And I would totally be the Vicky who like was gawking in the background and stirring it even bigger. Yeah, well, Andy seemed like he smiled and kind of laughed at her answer, but he did not seem very happy. I think she should be a little more dramatic, although she did tell us Alexis. So that was fun. Well, okay, last week, or when we taped, you know, one of our previous episodes, I was team Alexis and you guys gave me fucking hell for it. And I expect that again right now. I think that these women beat the shit out of her on part two. Is it great? Heather Heather was delivering these lines like, why would you even get into a fight if you know you're a moron and just horrible, nasty shit. So like, I mean, everything makes a good point. I just don't like her delivery. Oh, well, that's true. Well, why? Just because she's like articulate and, you know, unlike me, I'm like articulate and, you know, that's members. I want, you know, charades. Yeah, I want, I want you to get there. That was pretty funny when he said you're not going to fight. Is it true that you only fight with Alexis because you know, you can win? She's like, no one wants to fight. You know, you're going to lose. No, because it was because it's like, I don't get it a baby. And I mean, that's right. Yeah. So fucking mean. But at the same time, you know, you shouldn't steal candies from babe candy from babies, but they don't fucking understand how to properly enjoy candy anyway. Take it fucking baby. Yeah, and by the way, you know, Alexis, she may be dumb, but she's not a baby. And she's a grown ass woman who got on this show. And she's in a stupid marriage and a stupid life saying stupid things. So you know what? She deserves a little bit of grief about is her fake jesus e bullshit and her cars and she's a different Rolls Royce and every show. So fuck that. Excuse me. She talks all that shit. Yes, I will admit that. But then they cut to a package about that fucking gerbil face Heather going on about like, Oh, well, we're going to take the private helicopter to law. But that's because she has. Well, she has a private helicopter that she's like, how many square feet is your house? Nobody who has any fucking class will say 14,932.5 square feet. And then we're adding an addition in addition to the sports court. Like, fuck you, bitch. Oh, yeah. I think the I think the garages into the loose with the luge. I think I thought she said I think she had a loge or the lodges or something like that. A loge. It would be great if she added a luge though. Man, I would love that. There's a luge. Isn't that like an Olympic sport? Yeah, it's like a sled. See her do the tandem luge with Gretchen. Well, here's the thing. The reason I'm liking Heather is because Heather is white trash who married a homely rich guy. Like, let's not let's not lead ourselves to believe that Heather is actually worth the shit either. She was some two bit actors in the early 90s. Please don't malign her acting career. Please don't. Oh my God. Have you looked her up? I looked her up to make some jokes. You've known her for 20 seconds. I looked her up on ending so I could make a couple jokes about her. She's been unmarried with children and some Jenny McCarthy show. Give me a break. She's also on a show called That's Life. Oh, while she was doing in the deleted scenes on the reunion, there was a scene about housewives acting and they showed they didn't show Lexus, but they mentioned that she was on General Hospital and then they showed Gretchen on this Telemundo show that she was on, with the Spanish soap opera. Shut up. She's playing the head of a makeup company who is also a party girl or something ridiculous and she's you know, it's just terrible acting. Is she speaking espanol? No, it's an English for some reason. It's like the English Telemundo, which I don't know, maybe a Mexican can call in if I say in Spanish English. I don't know if it's English. I don't know what it is. Less viewers than we have listening to this podcast. But anyway, Andy is like, so Heather, what do you think about the acting of the other housewives and she's like, you know, I just have to say that I'm a different kind of actress. One whose proper acting is very different. I hate her. I love her. I will say that good for them, because this show affords you opportunities and good for them for taking the opportunities. And the best part was Alexis was smiling at this like she was getting complimented by Angelina. It was hilarious. Oh my God. You know what? Every time I want to, you know, take Alexis's side in this fight, you remind me of something like that. And I just think this woman just needs to go away. Yeah. Yeah. She's like one of the whammies on press your luck. I hate them. RIP. RIP. Peter Tamarkin. Too soon. Too soon. Too soon. Do you guys think that she's a goner? Because halfway through this episode, it looked like she threw in the towel and was just sitting there and licking her luscious lips. And I don't think I think she's done. I don't think so. We've asked this question like the past like five weeks in a row. I still think that she's coming back. I also get the vibe that Andy doesn't like Heather. So I think that those are the only two that are in jeopardy. I think he likes Heather either. I don't think he likes her snotty little answers and she doesn't really fit in with the other girls, but she's a little soon to fire her. You know, I think the thing is with Heather is say what you will. She's a little media. She's sort of media savvy or media trained or whatever. So he may want a little bit more of sort of like a like more of an unfiltered reaction from her. Well, I actually don't think that he wants that at all. I think the more blonde dummies you get up in the mix, the better. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I think he that's what Ben is saying is that Andy probably wants more trashy ass. Well, you know, here's something that is a little off the subject, but something that Zarin brought up earlier was about Oh, I said Zarin and all of a sudden I started thinking about ginger and the daughter coming in and the nightgown with no bra. Is he a gay boyfriend or not? Because he went to Sarah Lawrence. That was not on the podcast. Matt brought up how he hates misadvised and all these dating shows. And Zarin was saying, Oh, well, those are his, you know, misadvised as Andy's show, meaning that Andy created the show. It's one of the shows that he created or whatever. And I started thinking about it and I thought, well, what has Andy created? Because he didn't create the housewives that was created by other people before he was really big there, right? Yeah. I don't know. He didn't create Top Chef because that was created before. So what is he really? What is he created? I mean, he's created spin-offs. Watch what happens is what he's created. That's it. I mean, that's it. And that's a hit. I mean, I listen, I mean, that show is. No, it's a hit. It scores over a million viewers every single night that it's on, and it's on that many times a week. So I mean, he does wonky. I like gay guys have been sitting around their living room talking shit about old women for centuries. Don't tell me he invented that. He did not invent that. He just got, you know, some ladies that he works with to build him a clubhouse. A little clubhouse. Well, now speaking of club houses, can we talk about the one that Brooks is living in, which is called the Vicky Gombleson Clubhouse, aka her vagina? Yeah. That's my background. I never sees him. He's like rolled up. He's got like a little bunk bed in there with like a little flashlight. And his reading ghost stories are sitting on a night night. Telling ghost stories to friends inside of vagina. Roasting marshmallows. Okay. So speaking of living quarters, we turn into Jews that Brianna and her new husband are living now in Vicky's house, even though there's a major rift between the mother and the daughter, Don is still there. And Brooks, apparently, you know, stays in a hotel when he comes to town. Brooks seems skittish. She seems very afraid of being around Brianna because Brianna calls it like it is. Brianna has been through major surgery. Her throat has been slashed and she will not hesitate to slash his throat. Yeah. He is afraid of her honesty, as she likes to say. But do you guys think that Brooks was able to defend himself like at all? Do you think he was able to earn any sort of respect back? Or is it just still a total failure? You can live out your master chef dreams when you find a professional on Angie to tackle your dream kitchen remodel. Connect with skilled professionals to get all your home projects done well. Inside to outside. Repairs to renovations. Get started on the Angie app or visit Angie.com today. You can do this when you Angie that. This Halloween goole all out with Instacart. Whether you're hunting for the perfect costume, eyeing that giant bag of candy, or casting spells with eerie decor. We've got it all in one place. Download the Instacart app and get delivery in as fast as 30 minutes. Plus, enjoy $0 delivery fees on your first three orders. Offer valid for a limited time, minimum $10 per order, service fees, other fees, and additional term supply. Instacart, bringing the store to your door this Halloween. Um, I am so sorry to do this to you, but I have to say that he's got a Queer Eye credit. Uh, a lot of design credits and some workout credits. Oh, Andy Cohen. I don't know about Brooks. I'm like, I asked some project runway actually. No, he's like, well, he got credit. He's got credit on a way to lifetime. Oh, he's like, so let me take this time to apologize to Andy. Sorry, Andy. You're very accomplished. Okay. So now what, what were you guys talking about? I said, I asked the China. Yeah, I asked about Brooks. Out of Vicki's vagina. We crawled out. What your thoughts are on Brooks? Did he like safe face? Did he fight off Tamara properly? No, no, he's white trash, but I think in Vicki's vagina, there are Tootsie rules and he's covered in tobacco and like half chewed up gum. Which, which makes him feel like he's at home. Um, no, I think that he didn't at all. I think that Andy really sneakily called. See, now I like Andy because I've seen this IMDB. Yeah. You see, you see how I slightly switched there. Did you know that he's best friends with Sarah Jessica Parker? Well, wonky. I tell you, I have a feather. So anyway, um, I think that, that Andy really called him out very slightly. Yeah, saying, you know, Vicki's always said a bunch of the stuff that she wants and you just happen to be giving it to her. So did you watch the show first and study it? And he's like, no, no, you know, here's how I'm an opportunist. I love the opportunity to see a beaver every morning when I wake up. Who gets to see that? I haven't built a dam. How many women do you know with square boobs? I get to feel those things every day slapping up against me. It feels like running up against a couple of cement walls, but I'll tell you what, you can't find any other woman. Thank God for the opportunity. I'm an opportunist. I said it. You know, to be fair, you know, we said a few weeks ago, we had, we shared the gossip that said that, like, people at Bravo think that Brooks has been watching old episodes and practicing lines and that came out last time on the reunion. So watch what happens. A lot of shit on this show. Yeah, we are like, we have, we've been very psychic on this show. We've called a lot of the stuff that's happened. We have, like, people should listen to us more because we clearly know what's going on. And we make so many vagina jokes. Like we do. So many that women are going to talk about Vicky's vagina. I definitely think that there's, like, an old, dusty, um, foreigner eight track. I think, I think there's, like, a pile of decayed peeps in there from Easter. I was going to say it's probably like a dried-out Terry Garcia carton in there. I think there's some New York super fudge chunk in there. Oh my God. I'm thinking maybe like an extra set of keys to a Trans Am 74. I think there's, like, a pine cone or something that's, like, covered in cheese whiz. Where did that come from? Really? Really? I just, when we get into these lists, I sort of go into this, like, zen state and words just come to me. And then I just spit them out and hope they make sense. Okay, we'll save a few for Carol when we get to New York. But back to Vicky. Yeah, I definitely think that she's a moron. And if she does think, or she keeps, she keeps saying that, you know, the most important people in her life are her, are her kids. If your daughter hates your boyfriend that much that he can't even stay over in the same house when he comes to visit, if she won't speak to him, if they can't get along at all, if Vicky is really serious about her kids being the most important, she needs to get rid of Brooks. And I have to say, as, you know, smart of a business woman, as Vicky is, she's 50 years old, I definitely think that this is going to have to hit a nasty, nasty, like, serious, rough patch. And bad shit is going to have to happen to her before she comes to the realization that he has to go. Yeah. And by the way, they broke up, didn't they? No, I think they're on again, off again, on again, off again. And then how about, how about that thing that Brianna revealed that, that Brooks outed her wedding on the radio, like she hadn't like announced it yet or something like that. That like, they're should have made Vicky dump his ass. Yeah, that I like, that is unacceptable. That's, he took the opportunity there to be an awful person. Yeah, that's, you know, everything that everyone has said is totally proved right. And Vicky's arguing is just ridiculous. Like, she has no argument. Ronnie, he has four kids from two women, not two women. One of whom he got married to clarify that. So sorry guys, because I keep, I keep like going out, but now I'm looking up if they're still together. And it says, and these fucking pop-up ads keep coming up. It's like I'm looking at porn. I'm just trying to find out about Vicky. I'm kind of the kind of is for the porn. For the porn, I have to bend. Let's discuss this. Yeah. I love me some Don. I love that Don was in the picture from the wedding. I love Don. I did not know that Don was cheating on Vicky for 20 plus years. So that just also goes to show how much of an idiot she is because why would she stay with someone for 20 years who's been cheating on her unless she found out at the 19 year mark. When the, this first started coming out at before the season started, I think it was like a few weeks before the season started, it was coming out that Brooks, I mean, not Brooks, the other one, the other one. Don, Don, Don. Don was caught at Swinger's clubs. Yeah, it was like Swinger's clubs. So we don't mean Swinger's Cafe on Beverly. Oh my God, he was at a diner. Swinger's you guys, spoiler alert, but I think they're probably both sluts because Vicky, do you remember when they went to Cabo? I like, we didn't see her. Oh, yeah, but she was pretty all over people in Cabo. And they all looked like Don, by the way. They did all look like Don. She was at that swim up bar and she was riding those underwater stools like they were big dildos. Yes. And when she went on that trip with Brianna, I think that was last year too. They went on some trip together and she was all over dudes. I think they're probably Swinger's and she's playing the victim card. I don't even think it's that she's cheating on Don or it. I don't think anyone gives a shit about that, especially in Orange County. I think that she's, it's that she's with such a slimy guy who doesn't pay for his kids. Are you suggesting that all of their trips to have that maybe Lake Havasu, where they have the lake house is really just a hotspot for Swingers. I'm saying that Swingers are never cute. Swingers are always Vicky and Don. And Lake Havasu, I'm pretty sure does not have cute people. I am, I'm kind of offended at the insinuation that there'd be Swingers at Lake Havasu, because as we all know, Lake Havasu is a place for classy people to come together and have do classy things. We're going their first spring break on a pontoon boat. You're gonna get a pontoon. We're gonna get a pontoon. We're going to get a pontoon. We're going to go motorboden. Motorboding. It's a song called pontoon that's out right now. I'm not even joking. It's a huge hit. I love it. I'm laughing because I'm kind of lost. I don't know what the lake is. I don't know what the pop music is. You kids and your lakes and your music. Here's what, here's what matters. Okay, we'll just, we'll just die just the past minute. There's Lake Havasu. We're gonna go on a pontoon and we're gonna listen to the pontoon song on the pontoon. And we'll have football thrown at our faces just like Vicki. I was just wanting to say that and I will be wearing a nasty dirty cowboy hat with my bikini. And there's some girl there. Oh, I'm so sorry. Keep going. Keep going. Now you say there should be some girl there named like Trish who has like, who looks like a piece of leather and has giant boobs and she's from Phoenix, you know, and she's coming for the weekend. Yeah, and I think that she probably has like a big dolphin tattoo on her thigh. Yeah, man. I'm in, I'm in Texas right now, y'all. Wait, are you near San Padre Island? Because that's where we could also go for spring break, if need be. I would love to go to, well, Cabo San Lucas is over here, isn't it? Isn't it close to here? No, Cabo is out of LA. Never mind. Aren't you in Austin anyway? Aren't you in Austin anyway? Isn't that like nowhere near Mexico? No, but I think Cabo, everyone talks about going to Cabo all the time. All right. You're okay. You're from LA on plane. You're literally having an Alexis Bellina moment for you to be at like the Northern, like the middle to the north of Texas. Isn't Cabo San Lucas around here? Like you guys, let's cut a Peru. Let's get on. Let's get on the freeway and drive three hours to Peru, okay? Guys, I have a very personal question to ask. Yes. There were a couple times I was playing doodle jump while we were talking to Jill on the phone. Yeah, I kind of saw you not paying attention. Well, it was too much, but did you guys see me scratching my balls because I did it like three times? No, you kind of did this thing and I didn't want to bring it up, but I definitely saw you started laying on your stomach and then you like rolled to your back and I think you were wearing like a printed pajama pant and I saw you go for the crotch. Oh, no. Okay. Now I know you didn't see any. Yeah, I didn't see any of that. Were you not wearing PJ pants? No, I'm wearing shorts. Okay, I just want to make sure that you must have been looking at a different window on your computer at that time. Oh, I'm an angel. You remember that bear bear bears. Bear bears. Bear bears. I've seen so if any of you viewers are bears, I don't want you. Key wants. Hey, how rude. Why did it make me feel ugly? Let's talk about Vicki some more. Yeah, wait. Well, let's talk about it. Let's talk about the bombshells. And by the way, and we have to start wrapping up the OC thing because we have two other shows that we haven't even started talking about those shows are stupid. But I'm stupid. So, oh, actually, no, we did talk about the bombs. So let's see. So the talk about Vicki talking under her breath to Brianna to shut the fuck up because she was revealing too many personal secrets because that was amazing. That was great. And then there was Tamara who this was sort of funny to me because Vicki makes this comment about how Tamara was dating Eddie while she's still legally married to Simon. And Tamara gets all mad and all huffy. And she's like, what the fuck? She's like, well, I mean, I was separated. It's like, yeah, that's what Vicki was saying. You know, like, that's all. And so then, of course, Tamara, she smells blood in the water. So her retaliation is just goes so nasty and be like, well, let's talk about the guy you woke up with next to in Cabo. That wasn't on the TV show. Oh, my God. That was it was gross. It was so gross. Every every reunion Tamara pulls out some super thing. And then she asked, and then she said, swear on your unborn grandchild's life. Tamara, the only people that say that kind of shit are fucking devil worshiping bitches like you or people on Big Brother. But the thing is I love that then later at the at the end of the episode, wasn't she saying things that like, like, you know, I don't know, some real like below the belt things have been said. I don't know if I could be friends with Vicki anymore. It's like, to be honest, Vicki didn't really go that far below the belt with Tamara. Tamara was the one who was like, she was like, I'm punching you in the nuts, and then I'm going to take your nuts. I'm going to step on them and then put them in a blender. That's how that's how low and hard she is. And yes, I do believe that Vicki might have some nuts. Pause or hat. She might still have phantom nuts. They're in her boobs now. Oh, my God, disgusting. Anyway, does anybody hate Tamara as much as me? Because I don't think it's possible. Uh, no, but you know what though? If she comes on, watch what crap ends, what are you going to do? I'm going to be on vacation that week, because there will be no way that I could hold back calling her a fucking evil monster. Oh, well, you too. You'll be like, we love you. Yeah, you'll be like, we love you. We miss you so much. That's the best thing that I might hypocrite a lot. We love you. We love you, Tamara. Tamara Bonner. I mean, I think that everybody needs, I think that everybody needs somebody nice. I was just shocked that it was you. I thought it was going to be Ben, who is the nice one. You're like, oh, my God, Joe, you want to go to the Golden Corral together? I'm going to buy her a Diet Coke and I'm going to pop up. You're like, Joe, we love you the most out of all the housewives and all TV history. Now I give you shit, but I have to say, I miss you when you're not here. And my friend, Waffle Boy, is always mad when you're not here. And he's like, that shows just not right without Matt clutching his pearls. Well, all three of us play a different role in our dynamic. Ben, stop talking. Who's Waffle Boy, Ronnie? I think he's cute. I don't know if he's cute. I've never met him in real life, but I've known him for years. And in my mind, he's extremely good looking. How old is he? Is he a waffle? Is he a waffle? He's actually a waffle? I can't eat carbs. So I can't have that. Oh, it's more what you can't have. You're going to be so in love, man. By the way, I would love it, Matt, if you started dating a waffle. Okay, if that would be like my favorite thing ever. If you guys have like little pictures together, you want to like a waffle? That would be great. I'd probably get farther with a waffle than the people on OK Cupid. They're kind of the same thing. You would know from experience. Anyway, were there any other bombshells besides Tammer is the nastiest bitch on the face of the earth and Vicki clearly will Vicki will never hammer off the hook for this. No more bombshells. Let's go to New York City. We're running out of time. Happy end. We're more. I feel like there were more. There were more, but we've been talking for 45 minutes and we have two other shows to talk about. I'm regulating right now. He cares about New York, Ben, but we have to talk about New York because we always have so much fun when we talk about New York. Okay, fine. Here is my New York bullet number one. Sonya sticks her face in a bidet full of ice to put the puffiness down. Does she have a toilet fetish because last season she was fisting her toilet when she lost her Blackberry? I think that like she's going to claim that her face in the bidet. She's going to claim that that was like Hurricane Irene. She's like, well, I was in London and Hurricane Irene struck again. And I had all this cold water on my face. I couldn't believe it. Honestly, I think that she's going to try to design her own line of facial bidets. I. And you know what? I would buy it before the Toaster oven. I am so intrigued by the Soaster oven. At this point, I'm expecting it to have some sort of like crazy laser functionality, weird bells and whistles. And I feel like you could maybe like create pottery in it or something. I'm just going to say my Garnier Fructease roller ball for under my eyes is not working. I'm going to go stick my head in a bidet the next time I'm at a fancy hotel. And then you should get your hair dried in her Toaster oven or something. Why not? Why not? Sonya. This is an interesting episode for Sonya because she she planned this party for Aviva in this thing called the Empire Room, which I guess is supposed to have some sort of prestige. But to me, it looked like a lobby of an office building. And it was. It was like a big like red exit sign hanging from the ceiling, which just took all the class out of it. Yeah, it just seemed like a very like it was bright. It didn't seem intimate. It was sort of ugly. It was just mundane. And then on top of that, Sonya, you know, in her big party planning debut, she books this musical group, the singer named Cara Quichey. Oh my god. I forgot. Cara Quichey. Is anyone else going to go up by her album? Because I know I've already got it on Amazon. I've already I've already said one click shop. I want Cara Quichey. I want her. She came out and she sang a song. She didn't hit any notes whatsoever. And she's I don't even remember what the song was about, because the lyrics like were just sort of mundane. They're just sort of like, dare I say, the Countess would have been a better option for the performance. I thought the exact same thing. I was like, this is one of the few times when the Countess just roll out. She say lovey one more fucking time. Why not? Oh, and by the way, Cara Radswell had a great one of she had many like digs at the Countess, but one of her great ones was about like the Countess and her writing. She's like, she's not she's not an author. Why is she writing? She, you know, she's she sings. Carol is the okay. I like I like Carol, but Carol is the biggest bitch in those confessionals. Oh, she's great. That's I like that. No, I do too. She's a total bitch. We can talk about Aviva falling down the stairs. Okay, we have to talk about that. Now, she apparently, you know, when she was walking off the stage and down those little stairs, apparently it was with her foot that is not fake. That there's the one that rolled over. So should she just cut off her other real leg and she would be more graceful if she just had no legs whatsoever. Yeah, why doesn't she just put shoes on her knees? She I like the way Bravo edited the way she felt and they made it sound like she fell into the Grand Canyon. You know, there was like dramatic music and they cut away to commercial. They're like, oh my God. I wasn't that she just sort of like sort of souped around onto the banister. I mean, don't get me wrong. It was funny, but like it wasn't like the craziest thing of all time. Okay, the craziest thing of the entire party was not the fall. It was the continuing fight between Heather and Ramona. And I will have to say that I'm starting to hate Ramona more than I ever have before. And even though Heather has Joker face and Joker mouth, I loved that she was like a Pac-Man going after pellets chasing Ramona's ass down and confronting her. Yeah, she was stalking her ass. Yeah, she was she was like, you know, you've heard the term like a moveable feast. This was like a moveable fight. And like no matter where Ramona went, Heather was just like following her around just to be bitchy. And it was kind of like, I kind of enjoyed it. I thought it was very funny. Even though she's sorry, Matt. You see, I corrected you. So in my imagination, it had to be Ramona chasing around Heather. I couldn't even imagine it the other way. And which leaves me to confess that I don't care about New York. I can't bring myself to watch that shit. Except every time I close my eyes, I hear. Good night. Good morning. I work at ABC. Here it is. I work at... I do. I'm the widow. Sweet dreams. Okay, I want to see you. Then she's part of your dreams. My whole new thing is that if Jackie Earl Haley does not resign as Freddy Krueger for the next installment of night around the street, Carol Badswell has that shit in the bag. Oh, yeah. Oh, she definitely is. Although I was going to say she's sort of, the way our, the way our impression has been evolving, she's now sort of turned into one of the eels from Little Mermaid. I'm just saying. Well, it's late over here. It's two hours later over here. Listen, um, Carol, you know, so Ronnie, I know you say you're not liking New York anymore. I actually thought this was the first like super funny episode of the season because I was laughing the whole hour. Like, because the first half they were still in London and... But what did they do? I mean, I didn't even remember what the hell happened. It just, they didn't do anything. All that happened was that Luan was one-upping, like, crazy. It was amazing. Every time, like, anyone said, someone said, like, oh, I came from a family of five. She's like, well, I come from a family of seven. You know, like, I do gymnastics. Oh, I do gymnastics too. Um, there was even, honestly, my favorite part of the entire episode was this one time Luan went to the bathroom. And so, of course, all the girls talk shit. And Sonya was like, you know, I just want to walk into the room for one. I just want to walk into the room first for once. And they cut to a clip from earlier that night that you had maybe never even realized when it was going on. You didn't, you just thought it was like a cutaway clip. But, but now when it was cutaway too, it was Luan pushing her way to the front of the pack. And it was... I mean, Ben, she was talking about fucking New York giant, like, shoving people to the side so that she could, like, walk that catwalk, a la Tyra. It was absolutely amazing. And I sat, I literally watched that clip over, like, five times in a row. I needed it. Can you make a gift? I needed his gift. You know, that's a great idea. I don't know how to really make gifts, but I would love to make that a gift. Because it is, it is a fan. Do your, dear fans and listeners, somebody make us a gift of that, because we need it. Yes. In terms of other things, Luan, yeah, that's pretty much all that Luan did. And it was just, it was just funny. It was just one of her. But I also enjoyed also later on, after this Heather Ramona fight, how Luan was so excited to come in for some gossip. The way she approached, she pounced on Heather and was like, I'm on your team immediately. I love that. It's a classic Luan. Is anyone, is anyone on this podcast? Am I just speaking into the void at this point? Well, I'm just, you know, I'm racking my brain here and I'm going, okay, they were still in London. They talked shit about Luan. And then we got to this party. There was a bad performance of Eva fell down the stairs and Heather chased Ramona. That's it. That's, but it was all the stuff that was happening was funny. They were all being so petty and so bitchy. I thought it was great. It was like finally returned to form. Well, you know, to be honest, it's not even that I don't like it is that I've been in, I've just been with my family. So I have to like sneak. I really have to make an effort to watch this shit. Like Orange County, I have to see that Jersey. I semi have to see it. But New York, I can just kind of live without and I'm not going to sit here and watch four hours of CSI reruns with my mother and then watch New York because I just keep feeling like so much to be killed. Yeah. Well, I will say the feeling. I will say there's not there. I agree. There's not anything like really pressing to watch about New York right now. But I thought this past week was hilarious. No, I mean, it was pretty good. I will say though that when they tease the beginning of the season, you know, there is a point where I clearly sides and teams change like from episode to episode on New York, which is going to be good. And the, you know, the thing I'm waiting for is when Aviva freaks the fuck out finally and, you know, loses her cool. And she calls Sonia and Ramona white trash, but they're probably going to make me fucking wait until episode 17 for it. Yeah, exactly. Oh, and by the way, this has nothing to do with Aviva. But is it me or does you guys think that Heather's husband is kind of cute? Ew, no. Totally cute. But Heather's husband, not not Aviva's husband. No, it looks like he looks like he smells like Heather's vagina. I love how much we talk about vaginas on this show because they're with three gay guys. We talk about vaginas all the time. What do you think Heather's vagina smells like? Febreze. Beyonce. I think it's a mix of sandalwood and old, and old flip flops. I think it smells like these, the tiny pile of cardboard things I have in my recycling bin. I think it smells like the Saran wrap that she tries to perfect her shapewear with. I think it smells like old balloon. I think it smells like a mix of grape lip smackers and egg whites. I think it smells like those tickets that you get out of the ball machine at Chuck E. Cheese and ski ball. Yeah, you walk around with them all day and they smell like sweat and cardboard. I think my mind is actually drawing a blank like all I can think is I'm just like looking around my apartment. I'm like, I think she smells like a stereo system. I think she smells like my remote control. I think you pretty much talked to yourself at the very beginning with Beyonce. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I already gave my best answer. Now, now I've just like diminished in terms. Shut us all up. You shut us all up without him. Okay, so New York was in the ratings are in the toilet. Definitely go listen to episode 25, which is now on iTunes for download. We talked to Jill Zaren earlier today. She has a lot to say about New York and why the ratings are down. And she didn't pull any punches and she clearly is not a fan of Heathers. Yeah, she does not like Heather at all clearly. Well, they should bring back. They should bring back the girls. I mean, especially me and who is the other one that's not? Oh, me and Alex and and kind of Kelly. What a sweet thing. Right. Then she was also like, and if you guys want to talk to Cindy bar shop, she's definitely available. She's painfully free. Okay, shall we move on to New Jersey then? Yes. Let's go there. Let's all right. So big thing in New Jersey was that Melissa Gorga and Gia performed at this thing called Beat stock. And did you guys notice that there was like only maybe like a quarter of the people at this amphitheater? Like, do you know there's I think there may be like 200 people there total. The editors needed to be fired because I mean, I know that they were going for a lot of tight shots of the family up in the front row. But every once in a while, they pull back and you see like row after row after row like empty green bleachers. And it's like, okay, you might want to call this a festival, but there maybe are 300 people there and half of them are paid extras. Yeah, you know, I actually went on to the Beat stock 2011 website because I'm judicious like that. And first of all, it starts at it started at 11 a.m. So clearly, this was like the 11 15 a.m. slot that she got. And you know, she the actors are like beat stock was the biggest thing ever. The big headliner there that that one name that was noteworthy, which is Kelly Rowland. And then from Kelly Rowland, it drops down to Shaggy. And then from Shaggy, it just goes into like a who's who of 90s people? Crystal Waters, Robin S, the cover girls. Can I make a few guesses? Yes. Was genuine on the on the ballot? He was not, but Jeremiah was or Jeremy was was Envogue minus done on Robinson there? No, that's they're too big. Jody Watley. Jody Watley was not. No, Louis. He was he was doesn't do beat stock. What's the news there? We're the surviving members of TLC there. No, here, I'll tell you some others. Ultra nate. Oh, what a classic Rob Rob base Karina. Do you guys remember Karina? She sang Temptation. You know, 10 years ago at Mickey's in West Hollywood on Santa Monica Boulevard, like that was their roster. I'm kind of wavering between going back back and forth between thinking this is like the worst thing ever slash. I kind of wish I had a ticket and see because I would have loved to seen Karina. Hey, I'm team Kelly Rowland. I live for that girl, but like she only can sell records in the UK. She also went by takes over. Yeah. We just harmonize and tonight Melissa, Melissa Gorga, you guys are screaming. And this is my last thing about the roster here, but Melissa was also in the company of a whole bunch of people who I have never heard of before. There must be doing the Jersey circuit, Frank Lambov, Lambov, or lamb boy, Razor and Guido, SZA hands, Glenn, Fricia, Louis, Davido and Mia Martinez. I think that that's like a family and they probably own like, you know, a strip mall and every one of them owns like a different like meatball shack. It's all the people who run the kiosk. Exactly like every hour they bring some up from like selling hot dogs like, hey, you want to go on the microphone? You can sing a song. Why not? Now dare I say that Gia's dance performance was better than Melissa's lip syncing skills. Oh my God. Yes. So that all the editors think that too. That was hilarious how they just kept hitting that point home. Like showing Melissa. I don't know if I can do that. To Gia just kicking ass. Yeah. Gia was good. Gia was like a hundred percent out. Booty poppin. Booty poppin. Yeah. Now you guys know that Melissa wasn't the only one having a big, a big show, a big sort of moment on the grand stage. Also our favorite Cathy was having a big moment at a gelato shop in that she was. She was sharing her. We're so stupid that. That segue was genius. But I also want to punch you in the face. Listen, they put that storyline in there. So that would be it would work thematically because everyone was having their big moments on a grand stage. So for Melissa, it was upbeat. And for Cathy, it was that she brought like a piece of cake to the gelato shop and was like, Oh, I hope the guy behind the counter likes it. I love was holding that goddamn pasta sauce. Look, that looks cheaper than Rago. I know you guys, let's talk about the boys. Why do I want to watch airlines fucking children and their terrible muddy water business? Why? Why? I think it's actually heartbreaking because Chris. Chris. Chris. Chris. Chris. This guy. The guy. He's saved a hooker. And now someone's gonna have to save his ass because black water and not gonna sell. I know it's like this guy is like such a decent guy. He seems bright. He seems like a got a good head on shoulders. And he's putting all the back that he has a wrist tattoo. Just saying. Well, you know, he's from Jersey. You know, he's you can't there's certain things you just can't avoid. But but you know, here's this guy. And he's putting all his money into this cockamamie idea called black water. And it's not only the going down the the the shitter, but he has assembled a horrific team of experts. And you know, it's it's really his fault at this point because it was one thing. Okay, you know, you bring on Albie and Christopher. But now they got like Dominic and Richie down from the boardwalk coming along. The staff of posh could do a better job. I know. It's like, does any professional experience come into play with anyone he hires here or they just all know, because all they do is sit around and shove their faces full of dead animals and alcohol because they are fat lazy fucks. Yeah, they they like there's not any semblance of a marketing strategy on with these these people. They're just like, hey, we'll just show up and we're on TV and we're going to give people water that's black because it's we'll put mom on stage at the trade show the end. Yeah, I mean, reading reading Lauren's Twitter and how she thinks she's like Julia Roberts or something really leads me to the conclusion that they're all delusional. I usually think it's just the housewives and the rest of the family is like, Oh, there's mom again, all famous at the mall. But I think they really think that they're all Teresa. You know, Caface is a genius idea. Yeah. Caface. Caface. Caface. Caface. Caface. Caface. Well, you know, you know, I'm Caface must really be taking off because something there had to be some good reason why Lauren was not at the fancy food show. Okay. That's all you gotta say. Caface was probably sampling the scones that are going to be up front in the store. Why don't they just call that place Caf? I mean, fatface. I wouldn't go there before I would go to Caface. At least I know that they were like trying to make an effort to make me look better. My God, I'm just like, beautiful. They could give you like made up turtlenecks like just color a turtleneck on all the way up to your team. Did anybody else back to the the food show, the wine and food X bar, whatever the hell it was called. It was called the fancy food show. Whatever. It was embarrassing. The only thing that came out of that that, you know, I wanted to see more of was the spin-off starring Greg and Patty LaBelle. Yeah, I'd be okay with that. Although, you know what? Patty LaBelle had that look on her face, like, Oh my God, a gay guy's coming over. He's the most boring gay person I've ever liked. Do you have anything to say other than, Wow, Patty LaBelle, you're a queen. Right. Maybe if I show him my Louboutin, he'll just leave. I can't help but I can't help but feel like that like everyone around Greg tells him he's like the most fabulous funny guy ever. And I think it's sort of gone to his head like he's like, Oh, I'm Greg. I'm like the funny gay guy that everyone loves on New Jersey, but he's like only okay, I think. He doesn't say anything funny. The only thing they just keep laughing at him because he's gay. Yeah, like he's in Jersey. So everywhere they go, they're like, Who's a gay guy? Right. Like maybe we'll get Joe Borger to sleep with him. Haha. Like we've had that joke for three seasons now. Oh, we can make some asshole jokes. Haha. Well, okay, let's cut let's cut to the chase here. Ronnie, you did meet him at a party. I want to say during Pride weekend, would you? Ah, I didn't really meet him. I mean, we were at the same party, but he was in the pool with his kind of hot boyfriend. And we everyone was shit faced. And when he was leaving, I was outside smoking cigarette. I was outside smelling people smoking. And so I I thought you quit Ronnie. I was smoking a bowl. Okay, I was smoking a bowl. But I was walking back with my friends and he was walking up the hill all shit faced. And I just grabbed my phone and turned on the camera. I just grabbed him was like, Hey, would you mind real quick and just faced it towards us? And the man, the way that that man picked his face up off the floor and made it so cute and smiley. It was impressive. He popped. He popped the pose, didn't he? He did. He should not have looked. I kind of was trying to be part of me just didn't want to bug him. But the other part of me was like, Oh my God, he's gonna look like such shit in this picture. How hot was his boyfriend? And do I have a chance? Was he was he was he as hot? Was he as hot as Jojudais wearing a wife beater and a black vest and sculpted beard to be stuck? You man boobs and giant arms and a bubble butt. So I would have to say Jojudais wins. Oh, okay. That Jojudais ensemble was you you just don't stand a chance because guys they will only date like a model looking guys. I think you're very cute though. Sorry. I didn't mean to be a jerk. You stand a chance with me, but you don't like bears. You're gonna bear. He's a shame. I am now we haven't seen each other for a couple of months. You losing weight. Do you have facial hair right now? Yeah, I've got facial hair. I've got about 80,000 pounds on me. Why am I talking about this? We shouldn't do this late at night. Yeah, I think that means that time to wrap up. I think that means it's time to wrap up. So bad. We have more shit to talk about. What? Okay, you'll talk about it then. Okay. Well, what were you trying to say before I started talking about loving Brown? Loving Brown. Loving Brown. My favorite color. What do you guys like? Blue cherry red cherry red lipglass. She's a good follower of ours, you guys. Um, she is. Okay, what did you guys think about, um, Teresa's children talking mad shit about Melissa's lip syncing skills? Uh, love her kids. They're totally bits like their mom and why are Teresa's the beat sleeping in different rooms? Did we talk about that yet? We did not do that yet. That's clearly there's some trouble on paradise there. Who's fault? Do you think it is his his he cheats? Do you? Don't you remember that he cheats and he goes away? He goes to swingers clubs with Don from Orange County. Maybe to reach it is sleeping around to you guys. I don't know. I don't think it in that Joe Judas would. So I don't think that she is. But you remember like the BM season, remember like, uh, Gia was like, like attacking your dad for like having like affairs, you know? That is true. Cause those girls don't have a filter. There you go. Well, we should see if there's like a forehead fetish side or something. I'd like to hit Teresa up. I would love Teresa having a storyline of like trying to get divorced from Judas while she's dating, you know, someone else. Someone would be so good. I can only imagine what her like next husband would look like. Probably like a giant piece of Swiss cheese. I think it probably looked like her brother. Cause clearly they're doing it. Maybe it'll just be a waffle. Like your boyfriend, Matt, get in line, bitch. I kind of liked that they're making incest. Okay. Again, I'm from a very big Lebanese family. You know what? Joe Gorgas hot. So I approve that incest. You know, Ben, we might need to have an intervention with running because he is sharing a hell of a lot of stuff. Like I'm learning like too much shit tonight. You know, it's been a day. It's been a day of it's been a day of sharing. You know, we have a question for you too. Are we ever going to see them go on this motherfucking trip? I know in country Jesus Christ. I don't worry ever since the last time we talked about it and you brought up that hello nappas like across the country and they're going in a fucking car or a mobile. I've been mortified ever since you brought that up because I didn't really realize it before and I'm scared for everybody involved. Well, and we saw what happened on the last trip that they all went to and Punta Cana last year for the Dominican Republic. I mean, my God, hell broke loose. What's going to happen now? I don't know. I think it's sort of curious that their big trip of the season is going to be like in America in Napa. Normally they go international for those sort of things. I wonder if because the Punta Cana stuff going on there, they can't leave the country or am I just, is it late at night and I'm coming up with crazy conspiracy theories. I think it's that and I also think because Teresa's children acted like such little fucking monsters when they were put on that cruise ship that they're not allowed to leave the country. And they're not allowed to go back to Italy again. That's for damn sure. Hell no. They're not allowed on the seas. The fish have rejected them. Okay, I'm not making any sense. I am not making any sense. The only place that will keep them is Jersey, you guys. So they suck. Those kids, those kids are evil. Well, actually, you know, only Melania's evil. Gabrielle is turning pretty. Gabrielle was kind of like, oh, my, my sister is stupid. And then they just like showed like her looking out the window of the limousine. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, clearly everyone's tired. So one more time, I'll reel off how you guys can find us on the interwebs. 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