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That's Audible.com/crapins or text Crapins to 500-500. - This episode of Watch For Crapins is brought to you by Gamefly. Go to Gamefly.com/forward-ha-ha for your free 15-day trial. ♪ California ♪ (upbeat music) - Everyone, this is Watch What Crapins, a podcast devoted solely to Bravo. I'm Ben Mandelker from bsideblog.com, and joining me is Matt Woodfield, future's editor for Yahoo.com. - Yes, thank you. We don't have Ronnie with us tonight. - Yeah, normally we have Ronnie Karen, but he can't join us tonight, which is too bad because we just finished watching the season premiere of The Real Housewives of Orange County. What season is this? - Season six, the OG's, the original gangsta. - Ooh, OG's from the OC. Wow, so we are kind of a little bit high right now, not literally on anything, but high on The Real Housewives. I'll tell you, at least I am. - No, definitely. I mean, this has been, you know, a landmark week for Real Housewives. We had reunion episode two for Beverly Hills, and now we're kicking off season six with OC. It doesn't get more exciting. - This is a banner week. Okay, so-- - This is The Real Super Bowl. Let's get real. - Oh, I mean, this is-- - Forget Tom Brady. - Well, I mean, one of these days, Andy Cohen, is gonna get the good idea of having these women actually play football against each other. And if not football, some sort of like powder puff. - Oh my god, Battle of the Housewives has been amazing. Mud Pit, so today, or this week, we are gonna be talking about The Real Housewives of Orange County premiere. We're gonna talk about part two of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion. We'll touch on Top Chef. And if we have time, we may even talk about the Shahs of Sunset. - What about my girl Bethany? She's coming back. - Bethany, who knows? Is she dead to you? - A little bit. - Because of that fake boat situation? - Listen, the boat situation really irked me. - But you know what'll get you back on board? - Get it on board. - Get it on board, Hannah. - What? - Her white sangria. It's amazing. - Oh, congratulations. She created white sangria. That's been around for a while, okay? Guess what? I made white sangria last week. - Yeah, but pre-mixed in a bottle at Ralph's. I mean, it's amazing. - Ugh, ugh, ugh, I'm sure it tastes lovely. I'm sure it tastes lovely. But the real issue that, the real thing we have to talk about today is not Bethany and her latest spirits. We have to talk about The Real Housewives of the OC. I mean, they season premiere a quick flash impression. - Well, without, well, I was supposed to give you a one word answer right there? - You can give me two words. I'll give you two words. - Okay, you go first. - Awesome. - Just one word. Okay, fine. - I only need one word. - Okay, I'm gonna need two words. - I'm gonna go with, I need three words. - Okay. - Gretchen, Christine, Butte. - Oh, that sums it up perfectly. - Classy. - Classy. - Innovative. - Innovative. - Pretty. Um, no, I should, can I change my word? - Uh, you're words. - You're words. - I would just want one now. - Wait, are you gonna keep the other two then? - No, I'm dropping them all and I just need one. I need one new one. - Okay. - Veneers. - Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, we had some veneers and I think they belong to Ms. Gretchen Rossi, right? - They did. Miley Cyrus was in the building and-- - Her mouth. - Well, initially I thought it was like a fresh set of lips, like maybe she was going on to-- - Yeah, me too. - Paul Nassif or whatever. - Yeah, or maybe there was like some and biz-a-line going on that's making her look through strange things, but uh, no. - Actually. - New season, new face. - New grill. - New grill, why not, you know? - You know, I have to say Gretchen, it was like a little bizarre looking, but you know what, despite Gretchen's new face, I have to say three cheers for the season premiere because last season was a huge dud. - Really? - Oh, you didn't think it was a dud? - You know what, I think that I give it way too much credit because of the one amazing dinner party. - There were two good episodes last season, okay? - Two dinner parties. - There was a dinner party, the Peggy's dinner party. - Right, what's the best episode? - Yeah, and then the final party, which had involved the pushing in the wine and the, you know-- - Right, Gina getting sloshed. - And then everything else was just very flat. It was a very flat season, but you know what? This opening episode was, it was funny, like unintentional humor, at least for the women, intentional for the producers. There was drama, I cared about what was going on. It's been a while since I've been this excited about the Real Housewives of Orange County. - Okay, before we dive in and like break this down, we can ask you this though. So, Orange County has the smallest cast out of any of the Housewives franchises. Is that something that works well for it or do you think that there need to be a few additional women or does it just only, and it does its thing? - It needs to be small right now because it's not working. And like I think the cast can grow bigger if it works. They just add on, but they need to focus on a few good characters. - Focus on the four, okay. - Plus Peggy's still in the mix apparently. I mean, she's not an official cast member, but man, she is like, her doesn't say spells. - Well, she has a playa this season, so we can't ignore that. - All right, so let's, before we get to Peggy, okay, first of all, we have some new opening titles. - We do. - That was awesome. - Did you like them? I was really nervous. - I was amused. I was amused first of all, Tamara, first of all, I think this is the first time Tamara is done. - Tamara leads because Vicki is the original gangster. - I know, and not only did Tamara lead, but she didn't mention how hot she is, which is normally what she does. - I know that really is her signature. And initially, when we were watching this and Tamara delivered her line, and I kind of rolled my eyes and then two seconds later, I'm like, that was kind of awesome. - Well, I believe the line was-- - There was something with an arrow and a target. - Yeah, sort of like a sassy archer. - I thought it was more in terms of hunting as like, I have a, when I was like, I have things in my target and I have great aim, I don't know. It was something really bizarre. - It was good, I bought into it, I was down. - And then Vicki said something along the lines of, my tank is full and I'm driving forward. - There's some like that. - Vicki and the love tank. - You gotta love the fact that there's sort of like a vague illusion to her vagina. That's gonna happen at the top of every single-- - Ah, I'm screaming 'cause Vicki can't say the word vagina. It's just too much for her. - It's too much, and then the other people's opening lines were generic about who cares. - Who cares about Gretchen and line? - I really wish I could remember the Tamara line. - Oh well, that shows how good of a podcast, Ryan, though, you don't need to take notes. Just trust us, it's good. So then we had the opening titles, and then we had Gretchen, we saw her new face. Gosh, she didn't need to do that. - Well, she doesn't have a lot of money, so I really think that she didn't, you know, buy the best faux teeth that were available. - Can we talk about how much we hate her house? - Okay, she is poor. - It's full of knickknacks, pattywacks, the dogs that need a bone. - The wine rack on the wall with the upside-down wine? - Yeah, I mean, this is like the best of world market or something like that. - It's world pure one rejects. - Right, or like the sale rack at Marshals, you know, like when you're walking up by the register, it's like here's some jelly bellies, a crystal goblet, maybe some like rooster chicken type thing. - It's that one aisle in Marshals or TJ Maxx or Ross, where it's like, you know, there's always an aisle where there's like kitchenware, where there's like pots and pans, that's cool. And then you go to the next aisle, and you're like, oh shoot, no more kitchenware. There's like big clocks with like ornate hands, or like big wood, there's no like yellow. - Or like a used like discounted bedhead product. - Yeah, and there's like wrought iron like chotch-keys, you know, and like-- - Her house has all of them. - She's the one who buys it, they're all there, they're all on the wall. She has like a case of like China in the middle of like her kitchen. It just is-- - She has cheap bookcases filled with like glassware. - Yeah, but not like, it's very Midwest old lady, you know? Maybe she inherited, I don't know. - Maybe she did. - I don't know, so Gretchen, the big news at the top of the show is that Gretchen and Tamara had a ceasefire, and Tamara, I was sort of amused by the way, Tamara handled it, you know, she kept on saying, you know, things got so crazy, you know, I was saying things, you were saying things-- - She was not taking the full blood, she would never take the full blood-- - Gretchen was the full blood-- - Gretchen was just reacting, she was like, you know, you know, we both were just saying things, like no, you were saying things. - You were saying things, and you can't admit that you were being a big nasty bitch. - But to be fair, Tamara finally said, I'm sorry, she finally apologized. - It was real quick though. It was quick, but, you know, considering it took three years to get there. - That's true, I mean Gretchen should take what you can get. - And then she gave Gretchen some hard piece of costume jewelry, it was like some pink and white pearl thing with a scene. - But there was a key on it to open the door to their future. - And to lock their past away, which is by the way, the healthiest way to handle a friendship. - That is true, let's just sweep that under the rug. - Let's literally just lock it away, and never talk about that. - Do you think that this bedazzled cuff was from the Lynn Curtain line of accessories? - Well, if it wasn't, I'm sure Lynn Curtain will come bang on the door being very angry. She'll have her two daughters and two. - Lynn, I miss Lynn and Tammy Knickerbacher and all the good vets. - I don't miss Tammy. - You'll know they'll be in the background at some part of your story. - Oh, they will be, the finale. I don't miss Tammy, but Lynn-- - What about Quinn and her wigs? - Well, Quinn, I mean, well, what's Quinn's alter ego name? It's something like Lady Susan or something like that. - Anything that doesn't believe in dinosaurs, I'll tell you that much. - Do you think that Gretchen and Tamara are gonna be able to keep this facade, or is this like two episodes and then they're gonna be pulling each other's head? - I think this time, yes, based purely on the previews. 'Cause if they couldn't, you'd see it in the previews for the season, you know, they sort of do this every season. They sort of attempt to bury the-- - Yeah, but it always goes off the rails. - It goes off the rails, usually because Tamara never fully apologizes, but she apologized this time. - Right, and I think that I also do believe that because Tamara and Simon have been separated for a while, she's not leaning on Vicki as much, and Vicki is the one who really pushes her into these fights. - Yeah, and I think also Tamara probably realized what hypocrite she was for calling out Gretchen when Tamara was mad at Gina for doing the same thing to her. - Exactly, so-- - And I think that, in fact, when Gretchen brought that up to Tamara, they were eating and she was a little surprised by that, and she's probably thought about it a little bit more. - Yeah, I actually think, like, unlike so many of these other dumb housewives on all these franchises, I think that Tamara is actually a student of the real housewives, and before she joined that cast, she did her homework, she knew what she was getting into, she knew she had to play up her character to remain on the show, and now she's opening the credits. She is the star of the show. - Do you think this is gonna be the season where she truly becomes like, "Well, 'cause last season she did great, "and then she fell apart reunion, "she was a horrific bitch at the reunion." - Oh, she was the horrific bitch at the reunion. - Of course she's ever in. - And you remember why we all hated her for so many years. Do you think this is gonna be the year that she had some funny lines? - I actually think it's very similar to Camille where they're gonna try to create a new facade for a new season. We'll see how that goes. Didn't work so well for Camille. We'll get there in a little bit, but I-- - I thought it worked quite well for Camille. - No, it worked for Camille, but she's gonna find herself off the show 'cause she's boring now, so I just think-- - I don't know, but people love her, though. - They do, but I just think Tamara is, she's not able to keep her mouth shut. She's always gonna keep it spicy and raw and raw. - She has some funny lines. I mean, so can we jump ahead for one second here to Heather? We'll get into Heather later, but just in terms of Tamara. - Okay. - You know, when Tamara first met this new girl, Heather, you know what, Tamara, this classic Tamara, she's like, you know, she's wealthy, she seems smart, seems lovely. She's probably a bitch. - Right, I mean-- - That's like classic Tamara right there. - Welcome to the group, yeah. - Oh, Tamara, well, let's just get into Heather. Let's just go there. - Sure, okay, and then we'll double back. We'll double back, we'll double back. So, Heather, actually, you know, I did my research. - Yes. - And, you know, in all the previews, it was hilarious to me because Gretchen's like, you call yourself an actress, but what the hell have you ever been on? You're nobody, right? So, I looked at her IMD. - As opposed to fashion, used to luminary, Gretchen Christine, the Gretchen Christine Butte, handbag line. - That is true, that is true. So, I looked at her IMDB page, and surprisingly, she was on shows that lasted. - She actually has a legitimate, like, resume. I mean, we just, none of her stuff really made into the pop culture awareness, but she was on legitimate shows. - What I'm getting it as though is, like, she got paychecks, she got paid. - Yeah, yeah, she was the Kylo Richards of her time. - She was, that's saying a lot. But, clearly, she stopped to have kids, maybe seven, eight years ago. - She married wealthy. - Married wealthy, smart move, good girl, but now. - So, what do you think of her? What do you think of Heather, whatever her last name is? - So, here's the deal. - I won't say bandicamp, but that's not correct. - She is wearing all of these, like, classy dress. - She dresses way classier than the OC Hookers. - She has the face of a Cheshire cat meets Bethany Frankel. - She does. She loves a sparkly bobble necklace. She loves a statement necklace. Here's the thing, I just don't really know her yet. I think that she's kind of fake. I think that she's just doing anything she can to get on this program. Clearly, that works. - Yeah, well, I vacillated wildly over the course of the hour. When I first met her, I was like, oh, she's a bitch. - You were hating it. - Because I was like, there was something about her. I mean, she wasn't really being bitchy, but there was something-- - She said it's like fake stuff. - There was some sort of like, haughtiness. And she's like, over this, like, this lot of land. You know what it was? It wasn't a haughtiness. She was quietly bragging about a lot of different things. - Right, I mean-- - And she's sort of like, I don't know, she's sort of like-- - She's no Countess Luanda Lissaps. - No, but she is the Countess Luanda Lissaps. - Oh, but we're telling. - Yes, no, yeah, which then made me kind of love her. - Okay, okay, I'll give you that. - But then I sort of started to hate her again when she pretended like she didn't know who's in Tamara's crew. - Okay, that was aggravating. I'm sorry, like, you're not gonna join this cast and not know all the backstories. - Yeah, but then I started to like her because she clearly seemed to be on Team Tamara Peggy later on in the episode and-- - I'm Team Peggy, but I don't like Team Vicki and I don't want her to be Team Vicki. - Well, here's the most important part. I said this as we were watching. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. So she is, they are setting this up that Alexis is gonna be so jealous of Heather. Alexis will be threatened by Heather. Alexis will hate everything that Heather's about. So who the fuck cares what Heather does because if Alexis hates her, I'm gonna love her. - That's true, that's true. But Vicki, I feel like, is also gonna be threatened because she is the first original housewife. And when you bring in new blood, it doesn't always-- - Well, Vicki is happy now, which was a perfect segue into Vicki. So Vicki is out of the divorce. They said, oh, they never go, did they get married? I don't remember. - I don't know if they were married. - They're separated. Either way, they're separated. - They're separated, but John is still living in the house. - Yeah, and she has a boyfriend named Brooks from Mississippi and she's selling her house, her big old house, fluffing up those pillows. She apparently has a glow about her. How do you feel about her? How do you feel about Vicki in this transition? - Well, I hate Vicki. I hated her last season. I think she's awful. I'm still Team Gina through and through. And speaking of Gina, my big problem is here. She and Tamara used to give Gina so much shit for Gina's abusive husband still living in that house, which, yes, huge mistake, big issue. But Don is living in Vicki's house now, and they're separated and she's screwing some dude from Mississippi. - I agree, although I will say the difference is that it seems like they actually have a game plan. It seems like he's in the house 'cause she needs him in the house until they sell it. - Right, and then once they sell it, he's gonna start asking for support, which I love. Team Don, take Vicki's money. - That's true, although the thing is, every time I think I'm hating on Vicki, I don't know, there's something about her that makes me sort of love her. - Well, I have to love her 'cause she's the original. - She's the original, but there's something about her that's just, I don't know, she's Vicki, you know? It's like you-- - She is Vicki. - You hate her, but you love her. I don't know, in a strange way. - It's gonna be a crazy season for her though, 'cause I think the divorce is gonna screw with her. And you know, the new guy, who knows what's gonna happen? And I know that her daughter, Brianna, is still very upset with her for the divorce with Don. I mean, there's a lot still going on in her life. - Let's focus on the positive, that she's getting rid of that house, which maybe, it's a nice big layout, but honestly, it's the same problem with Gretchen in a certain way, which is that brown, everything's brown, it honestly looks like a showroom for Ashley Furniture. And if you've ever been in a showroom for Ashley Furniture, it's the worst place on Earth, okay? - I think it looks very cheap, Vegas, like not like the Bellagio, like the Monte Carlo, $59.99. - Yeah, it's like trying to be classy, but it's just disgusting. - Yeah, and everything that Tamara has, like floor dalis and crosses, like, here's the thing, all the crap in their houses have floor dalis and crosses on them, and so did their tacky husbands and boyfriends, jeans, and a bedazzled snapper. - This is the land of affliction, and a hardy bedazzled things, I mean, this is where, a leopard skin prints, this is where style goes to die. Everyone thinks it's New Jersey, no, it's Orange County. - There really aren't that far off from the Jersey cast, it really just is a so-cal setting. - Yeah, it really, I mean, it's just honestly, I mean, the Orange County, people in Orange County in general, maybe I shouldn't say this again, trouble, but it's basically like rednecks with money. 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So the big news is that, according to her, Alexis Couture is doing great. - It's flying off the shelves, even though it's not on any shelves. - It's not on any shelves, but Jim likes it, and that's probably enough to make it a blockbuster success. - It's true, it's true. - But the big story is that Fox 5 in San Diego has hired Alexis to be like their beauty and style reporter. And at first-- - It's on Friday mornings only, which makes it so stressful for her, I say. - It's true. - It's so hard to juggle a career. - She's an entrepreneur. - A career and a family, you know, a one-day-a-week career, but, you know, still is a jugger. - And she still has an assistant. - She has so many things to do. She's got to set Jim's alarm clock, 'cause God knows he can't do it himself. - No, I mean, I was really fearing that we were gonna have a Russell Taylor moment right there. Alexis might have to put her jaw back on. - Yeah, over a toilet. - Over a toilet, because she didn't set Jim's alarm clock. - What a failure of a housewife she is. - Really, truly failure. - So when we were watching this, we were shocked at first, 'cause we thought, how could NBC allow Alexis to do reporting on, or Bravo, do reporting on Fox 5? I mean, one day keep it within the NBC-- - Yeah, there was no synergy there. It made no sense until we came to the realization that-- - Until Fox is trash. - Well, until we kept the realization that, if sure this might have brought some attention to NBC, but it would have been the embarrassing, terrible attention. So the segment that Alexis did, it was bewildering, it was bewildering. So first, she showed-- - On many levels. - Okay, so she drives down there in this outfit, like what? It's like, it looks like loungewear, that's me. - It was like a fake knockoff, juicy coacher, like a more tracksuit pajama. - I was like, okay, she's just wearing this, and then she's gonna change it to the studio. - Well, she brought a trolley with her. You'd think there was like a glamorous ball-gowner? - She doesn't change at all. She just wears this stupid outfit on the air. She barely has any prep. So the segment that she's doing has to do with, she's doing something with Dr. Booty. - Yes, for those of you who don't know, he is a real doctor. - Well, at least, well, he wears a white lab suit. - Well, that means he's a real doctor. - A lot of jacket, I should say. - Yeah, he's a doctor. - I love Alexis's actually question, 'cause I don't know if he has a PhD and Julie meant MD, but that's okay. At least she knows what it is. - This was a-- - It was a advanced degree, okay? - This was a stretch. - Good for her for knowing some things. And so this segment, first of all, there's this, we were laughing already that Alexis looked ridiculous. They're big boobs in this outfit, and then this producer comes out. - It's a hooker producer. - A hooker producer with boobs that make Alexis look the mirror, and she's got the, you know-- - The cinched waist, it's like an A-line skirt that goes right up to her, you know, really high up, and then it's just-- - The mini skirt. - And then boobs right on top of the waist. - And like, heels. - And hooker heels. - The hooker heels, and so we're like, what is going on? And then Dr. Booty comes out. This big old black guy with a lab jacket and shorts, okay? And he's like this big overweight guy who apparently knows how to make you lose weight, which is strange. And then this like chorus line of women come out, and then they have a wheel of asses, like literally like different type of asses. - Profiled asses. - Yeah. And so this is already crazy, and then on top of everything else, it's live TV, and Alexis isn't even on camera, she's off the side drinking water, so she gets on camera. - Okay, look, here's the crazy thing. She's convinced that she was born to be a star, and like, her idol is Katie Kirk, apparently. Even though-- - Katie Keurick. - Keurick, Keurick. - Keurick. However, she is determined to be a star. - But the problem is that she can't get words out of her mouth. I mean, I can't get words out of her mouth. - Well, they're not telling her, or was there cue cards or what was going on? - It wouldn't matter 'cause I'm not even convinced she can read, okay? - That is true, she does not read. - She, so she gets up there, she's stuttering. I mean, admittedly, she is caught off guard, but even once she gets her-- - It was a hot disaster. - It was a disaster. And then on top of that, she spins this wheel of asses, and she's, we're just looking at the segment of this guy, like, lording over these women, doing these strange ass exercises. - It was creepy. - This hooker producer off to the side, and you're just thinking to yourself, what is this? Now I see why NBC wanted nothing to do with this. - And then the best part is when the producers-- I'm talking about the producers of Real Housewives at the very end cut back to the studio, and the two anchors are sitting at their desk, and they're just shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. - Yeah, I mean, like, I think you said before, that this made Los Angeles local news look like Pulitzer Prize winning-- - Oh my God, I know. - You know, hard-hitting journalism. - It did. I mean, look, I love a trip down to San Diego, but this was just tragic. - This was tragic, and yet one of the funniest segments that has probably ever aired. - And we're just in the premiere. Just imagine where this is gonna go. We better see her back doing another segment. - Oh, please, I mean, she could be like the second coming of Nicole Kidman in to die for. - In to die for? I'm on board, I'm on board. - Except I think Nicole Kidman's character had more talent. - That's true. - Okay, so we met all our characters, and then the big news of this episode was that, what's your face, Vicki was gonna have a dinner party. - Because before you saw your house, you should dirty it up with a clam bake. - Yeah, exactly, it was a Cajun bake in honor of Brooks. This was smart of the producers, because I think the producers realize that any time these women get together for a dinner party-- - Dinner parties are gold, man. - Dinner parties are gold. You know, the last season, last year of the season premiere, they had some sort of like afternoon party, not the same. - No, we needed it at night. We need Vicki to turn on the lights on the volcano swimming pool. - Yeah, we needed people to be in their fancy clothes. - We need Gina to be nearby in case she needs to get an eye full of wine. - And we need her, any Gina's gay around nearby, so he can slam a glass on his eye. - That is true, that is true. - Please Vicki in her finest furry vest. - Oh my God, that outfit was just not flattering. - Look, it's a lot of fun, lots of fun. - It's a, it's, you know, you got a grade on a curve with the OC. - That is true, that is true. - So the good news is that we had the return of Peggy. - We did, and now are you sad that she's gone? - Yes. - Because I feel like she's an integral part of the show. - Yeah, I mean, I was shocked. I thought that honestly, after Reunion, they set up this Alexis, Peggy rivalry so much. I assumed it would be the cornerstone of the season. And the fact that Peggy is not like, more prominently featured in the season, I mean-- - Travis. - I mean, she was, she had a big role tonight. Looks like, I mean, she'll have a role next week, but I don't know how-- - Right, after episode two or three, she might disappear, which would be really unfortunate. - Yeah, that's honestly-- - But maybe she's gonna get locked up because she's still stalking Jim Bellino. - Yeah, well that's-- - According to Alexis, Peggy is still hung up on him. - Yeah, well, my favorite part about all that, by the way, was when Peggy, Tam asked Peggy why she did a Jim back in the day, and she's like, well, you know, Jim, he just sort of, you know, he did it all the hot girls. I was like, okay, Peggy, you just pat yourself on the back. You're allowed, you're allowed. - And then she also said, though, that everybody liked him 'cause of his toys. Now, you know-- - I remember it as cocaine. - You immediately went to, oh, clearly, he's a co-cat. - Yeah, I mean, what else, I mean, what-- - I thought boats, motorcycles, fast cars, but then when I started to think about it, I was like-- - And what do you do on boats, motorcycles, and in fast cars? - You snort cocaine off of a pooper butts. - Yeah, exactly. - Clearly, 'cause we wouldn't have so much about that. - Yeah, naturally. I mean, I just don't have, like, five lines already during this podcast. That's how I'm talking so fast. - Wow. Okay, so where is this gonna go? Where is this dinner party gonna go? 'Cause we saw five minutes of it, and obviously episode two-- - It was all a buildup. - The fireworks are gonna explode. - It was all a buildup for Peggy and Alexis' big hug. I'm sure the hug will probably be very civil and be like, oh, hi, you know, it'll be a big nothing, but I'm sure they'll be-- - Where is Heather gonna end up at this dinner party? What side? I mean, in Atlanta, we have the Talls versus the Smalls right now, Beverly Hills, there's a clear divide. Where is Heather gonna fall into this? - I think she's going to observe from afar. I mean, she's gonna do the Luan thing. - I don't know that she's gonna commit ever this season. - She's not gonna commit right off the bat, but she will commit eventually, I think. - Okay. - I don't know, we'll see what happens. - I just wanna see Alexis get jealous. That's what I'm looking forward to most. And now we also have Gretchen brought her friend Sarah, who's sort of like a long lost Kardashian, maybe not as talented. - She was wearing a black tank top and jeans to a party at Vicky's house. That's a big no-no. - If you're underdressed in the OC, that means you're really underdressed. That means you're a bit like a slob. - She did look like a slob, she was throwing back the shampers on route to Vicky's party. - You know, you can always tell when people look like they are trying to audition to be on the show. And this girl, Sarah, had that all over her. She really had that energy like, ♪ It's me, it's the cameras, I'm Sarah, I've got a hat ♪ - You know, what we know, she's gonna be awful because something happens with her later in the season at Heather's house. - But she's no Lori, she's no Tammy Nickerbacher. Clearly she has no money. If she's friends with Gretchen, she's poor. That's a give-in. - Yeah. - So I don't see this really. I mean, she might get on the show. So we don't want poor people as main cast members. We already have Tamara and Gretchen who have no money. Doesn't Gretchen have other friends? Why is this the first time we're seeing Sarah, by the way? - I don't know. - Yeah, I guess they probably have to audition her. - Maybe that's her secret lover 'cause Slade can't give it up. - So either way, I'm very excited about the season of OC. This honestly, I thought the premiere was really fun. It had that good mixture of being funny and intriguing. I cared about what was happening. And honestly, the previews for the season looked phenomenal. - Okay, what were some standouts for you? - Vicky in '80s clothing, yelling at Gretchen. - Okay, well, that's been airing for weeks, and I ended up so immediately. - Yeah, I think there are about four or five different shots of Vicky yelling at people. And as you mentioned before, when we watched, different outfits, because last season, all the fighting and the tension came from basically two scenes. - Right, so we had our eyes peeled for that. They're wearing different outfits, so that means they're fighting throughout the entire season. - I really enjoyed Slade telling his mother that he's going to ask Gretchen to marry him. - Excuse me, what about Slade doing standup comedy? - Well, I'm excited for that 'cause it looks so-- - I was cringing more for that than I was watching Alexis do the morning show segment. - Oh, I know. Well, the thing is, Slade thinks he's a cut up. He thinks he's hilarious. He, you know, that's like the new Slade, you know, because the old Slade from like the first season was a total asshole, so the new Slade is, "Oh, hey, I'm funny, I'm on. "Give me a shot." - No, I'm not. - He is not funny. Just stick to the artwork. - And the final thing, though, that my big takeaway is Vicky's new man, Brooks, they said, had been arrested for not paying child support, so that is gonna flip this whole thing on its lid. - It looks like there's a lot of tension, a lot of screaming. I just am hoping that there is a coherent sort of through line this season that we care about. Last season just felt very flat to me. It just felt like they were grasping. It seemed like no one was really hanging out with each other in North Carolina. - No, it's true. I mean, the stakes were raised when we had that, the last season of Jersey, where you had the fight that started the season, and then people were addicted to that entire story arc. - Right, but it was even before that. I mean, the good seasons have good through lines. - Right, Bethany, but it's just-- - And Rasti was just flat. There was nothing intriguing. The problems of these women are all kind of dumb. - And kind of dumb. - They're all kind of dumb, so they're not inherently interesting on their own. - That's true. - But if there's a good conflict that we can get behind, I'm all for it. - And speaking of conflicts, I can get behind. - Oh. - Episode two, Reunion Part Two, Beverly Hills, the tension between Lisa and Adrienne is still so palpable, and it's so awkward. - And to me, it sort of came out of nowhere. I knew that they seemed to make us, I thought it was fabricated of the season that they were trying to make us and like that, some tension. I was like, no, no, no. But at the Reunion, Adrienne was opening her mouth. Adrienne was trying to step towards Lisa. - No. - Not a good idea. - But who-- - But who? - The entire couch was, that was the losing, Adrienne's couch was the losing couch. - The losing couch, by far. But who really stirred the pot in episode two? - Brandi, Brandi, this was the Brandi episode. - This was the Brandi episode. - And everyone is loving Brandi for it. All the readers of my blog that have been commenting have been saying they're Team Brandi all the way up. - Everybody's Team Brandi and Bravo andi better be listening up because she is an essential part for the following season. - She actually needs to be elevated to full-on houses. - Full-time. - I keep Dana in a wicker chair in the back corner. - And make sure to keep Dana, 'cause I think she's a goofy, funny side character. - Of course she is, and I mean, there's more sunglasses, you know, where that came from. - Yeah, so. - But Brandi, you know, she's rough from the edges, she's not always in the right. I'm gonna say she's not always in the right. She did say something that she shouldn't have said last night, but the truth is this, people try to call her on her shit, like when Taylor tried to call her on her shit about slashing Eddie Sirean's tires, and Brandi's like, "Yeah, I slashed them. "They're on my tires." - Yeah, so we're Brandi. - Good for Brandi. I mean, you know, they didn't really even have her walk out. We just jumped right in, Brandi was on the couch, and it was a go time. And again, she is really, really uncouth. I don't think she has a ton of money. She is not in the same league as a Vanderpump, or a low pump. - Yeah, but she's got Vanderpump in her corner. - She does, and that says so much. I mean, Lisa hated her at the get-go, but now they're a really fun tag team. - I was a little surprised that Brandi actually went after Adrian, because Adrian was the one who allegedly brought them into the group, and they were friends, so it was sort of bizarre that she kind of stirred the power with Adrian, but I guess it sounds like she was bitter, 'cause Adrian didn't text her back over something. - Okay, but did you not think that Adrian was kind of goading her last night when they got into this, and they were talking, you know, the awkwardness still between Lisa and Adrian. Adrian point-blank asked Brandi. She was like, "Oh, well then who was talking behind Lisa's back?" And Brandi just goes, "Uh, you." - Yeah. - It was genius. - Yeah, although Brandi, to be fair, we gave Adrian a lot of shit about the fact that everything she heard, she really heard very secondhand, and Brandi heard that secondhand too. Like, Brandi shouldn't have brought that up. If she didn't hear it directly, like she should have said, "Oh, people told me." Like, "I feel like you can't say that on these shows." You can't say, "Well, I heard this, it's so stupid." You know, it's so disgusting. - But here's the problem when people believe Brandi, and people don't believe Adrian. That's the difference. - That's true, that's true. Well, the reason why they don't believe Adrian is because Lisa shot down Adrian, so Lisa invalidated Adrian, but Brandi has yet to be invalidated. - That's, I will give you that 100%. And while we're talking about this, like, couch divide, you know, I used to love Kyle Richards. She was my favorite. Season one, Team Kyle. - Everyone loved her. - Everyone loved her. No, and she could do no wrong. - She got commercials, even. - She got commercials. She was the one who used to tell it like it is, and she's hilarious in her, you know, confessionals. But with these past two reunion episodes, with her teaming up, or not teaming up with, but with her siding with Adrian, I think she's doing herself a major, major disservice. She and Lisa clearly have a lot of tension themselves, and by not jumping on the Vanderpump bandwagon here, Kyle is really screwing herself. - Well, Kyle sort of screwed herself this entire season because her Mean Girl side really took over. And, you know, good for her from when Andy asked about Game Night if she was a Mean Girl, and she said absolutely, she took full credit. But then even then, she's still back by the spell, but I was still like, I was just concerned with my sister on yada, yada, yada, yada. I mean, she did take credit for it, which I was afraid she was not gonna take credit. - Here is the difference, though. Kim was a pill pop, potentially a pill popping, but 100% alcoholic. She had an excuse to be a crazy, off her rocker, psychotic bitch that-- - Kyle did it. - Kyle, if you are gonna admit that you don't do drugs and that you are not an alcoholic, you have no excuse except for the fact that you are a mean bitch. - At her excuse for not giving Brandi that crutch was-- - Oh! - It didn't hold water or whole air, whatever it is. - And so Brandi chose-- - That was in the other room. I was like, where's my crutch? - Brandi walked away from last night's episode looking like a saint and Kyle just dug herself a deeper grave. - Yeah, I don't think Kyle did herself any favors, whatsoever. And you know what, in Taylor also did herself no favors. She never does herself any favors, but she continued to not do herself any favors. What was it, there was something she did that-- - She had five horrible things. - Okay, let's go through-- - First of all, she tried to step to Brandi, and Brandi shut her ass down so hardcore. My favorite quote of the night is when Brandi starts going off and then she's like, yeah, so once that book coming out in like five minutes, like boom, pretty much saying like, you're a horrible person, you're a terrible mother because you are writing a book about your husband's suicide four seconds after he's been dead. - And the funny thing is that again, in the season, Taylor and Brandi seemed to be okay, and Taylor actually seemed to stand up for Brandi. - There's a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff that we are not seeing because when you get to that reunion, it's like, oh my God, all these different lines have been drawn in the sand. - Exactly, and on top of that, I'm sure Brandi took notice of the fact that Taylor was with that initial group of people, like being friendly to her, like in one part of the room and going over to the other girls and being a total bitch, you know? - Oh, completely. - What were some of the other favorite Taylor moments? - Well, I also love that Camille, who started to attack, to rightfully attack Taylor in the first episode from the reunion, continued to go down that route when she said that, you know, Taylor really was horrible to Camille. - Yeah. - I mean, Camille flipped her whole script this season, but Taylor was just straight up awful to Camille, and Camille, again, like Brandi, put her in her place. They all made Taylor look like a fool last night. - Yeah, Taylor did one of the things that I hate so much that reality stars love to do. They love to latch onto a phrase, take it very literally, and then act very dramatically about it. - Let's go there, let's discuss it. - It was when they talked about Game Night, and Taylor started talking about how Brandi said, "I will kill you." And Taylor was like, "She said I will kill you." She said, "I will kill you twice, and I'm supposed to be okay with that." Or, you know, it's like, really, Taylor, do you really think that Brandi was gonna take out a machete and stab you to death, or is it game of celebrity? - I had a broken leg, I couldn't get up to kill anybody, but I'm glad that you took it so literally, you dumbed a lot. - Yeah, it's like, I hate people who do that, who hide behind semantics like that, just so that they can get some sort of like, like higher ground. - But how great was it that Lisa, instead of waiting for like Andy to jump in there, Lisa was like, "Let's get this straight." That was a joke, let me explain what a joke is, you dumbass. - Yeah, exactly. - Stupid Taylor. - Yeah, it's sort of shocking that the, that entire couch, Kyle, Taylor, and Adrian really, I mean, this is the first time that Adrian was really mis-stepped, I mean, Kyle has mis-stepped many times before. - Right, but she's so lovable in a weird way, except Adrian now, like, I really think that her fanbase is just gonna desert her. - She just really came off looking clueless, you know, it seemed like she was lashing out at dumb things. - It's really unfortunate too, because we saw her have a little bit of a softer side in the second half of the season, like, I love Paul, and I think that Paul gets the short end of the stick by being married to her. - Yeah, I like Paul a lot, too. - But they had some cute moments. - I like Adrian, too. - Right, no, me too, and they had some cute moments, and I'm like always rooting for them, but in the, I'm like done with her, I really hate her. - I don't say that I hate her. I just feel like this is the first time I feel like she has sort of fallen out of favor. She has, she can do so much to get back into the good graces. - She's so, she's too sensitive, like, with the whole jiggy drinking out of the cup, yes, it was tacky and gross, but she never even said anything to Lisa or Ken at the dinner party. You could easily say, put the dog on the floor, but she has to take it as like, well, you wouldn't like it if I brought Jack Foggs over to drink out of your champagne. So it's like, you are such an idiot, why can't you rest this shit? - Her responses to everything, I think you hit it on the head. Her responses were very immature, like, you know, whether it was also about the, the Vanderhoof, or the, I mean, the band. - It rhymes, it was a cute rhyming name. She's too sensitive. - Well, she should have just said, look, the reason why I didn't like it, 'cause I'm trying to go for something up-market, and while the pun is funny, you know, it really, like, reminds my friends. That's all she didn't just say, but instead, she, like, wouldn't really come out with it. And then again, with this jackpot thing, she's very tip for tat. - She can't let it go. - And I think the thing that's bad with Adrienne was that people have sensed for a long time that she's always held back, and this is the first time she really felt like she was opening up, and we didn't really love what we were seeing. It wasn't great, it wasn't great. - Okay, well, let's jump back to Camille for a second, because one of the interesting moments was when Andy Cohen, Point Blank, was like, hey, I have a viewers question here. Do you think that because you were playing all nice this season, you know, you became boring? Is that like a concern? I mean, are you concerned about Camille being too boring? - No, I don't think she was born, because you know what? Camille, like, ascended to the realm of being lovable, and so when someone's lovable, you almost don't care what they do, because you just love them, so she can, she shows up and you're like, oh, it's Camille! - Well, I had no problem with it, 'cause I actually adored her this season, and I think that, I don't think it was fake either, I mean, I understand that yes, she probably got a bad rap last season, she was the villain of last season, she was, there's no doubt about that, but I also don't think that that truly was her. She was going through a messed up, nasty, nasty, nasty- - Well, I think that was her. I think that was a side of her, and I think that she sort of- - Kyle pushed her buttons, though. - Kyle pushed her buttons, but I think that, I mean, I think that there, that was a side of Camille, 'cause you know, look, when she started going out with Taylor, that side came out again. The only difference is that we, you know, our perception of her has changed, and we're like, yeah, go Camille, go. - You're right, you're right. - But last year we'd been like that fucking bitch, you know? - It's true, but now that I'm team Camille, I'm like- - Yeah, it's like- - You put it to Taylor. - Well, she's earned a lot of good capital with us, you know? So it's like, she can spend some of it a little bit, you know? - I agree. - She can get a little bit of a bit of it, just the way Lisa Vanderpump has earned it, and, you know, others haven't. - Kyle has spent too much- - Kyle has spent way too much of it, but back to Camille for a second. Now, if viewers are writing in, I mean, Andy clearly listens to what these viewers are saying. I mean, they're the bread and butter, they're who's tuning in to all these shows and watch what happens live, and so, is Camille and Jeopardy, is she not gonna come back next year? - She will come back, 'cause people- - They need her. - They like her, and also, quite frankly, she's sort of a tabloid fixture, you know, with Kelsey, this whole thing with Kelsey. - She has more money than a lot of them. - Yeah, and- - Kelsey's money. - And it was kind of hilarious when he mentioned that their show, I mean, The Housewives, gets better ratings than Kelsey. I mean- - Well, hello, it's on stars. - Yeah, but then again, also, Kelsey's doing guest spots on 30 Rock. - And has nine zonie and Emmy, yeah. - Exactly. I think they'll keep Camille. People like her, and I think they're also gonna like the fact that Camille, and Lisa, and Brandi- - Little team record, that's a great alliance. - I hope that Brandi is upgraded to Housewives. - I don't think they've ever done that. - They only have ever upgraded a sidekick to full on Housewives. - Well, they need to start with Brandi. - Why not? - They need to. And I really just think that another reason to keep Camille, I mean, she has this new man in her life, who's hot, who's hot a lot younger than her, and I, ooh, that's saying a lot, but I want to see Camille dating. Like, I want to see, I kind of also want to see Taylor dating- - No, she's not too much, she's not too much to dating. I tend to actually not really enjoy watching any such going dates, no. - Well, Camille, I don't think about allow the cameras, but I'm rooting for Camille, I'll just leave it- - Everyone's rooting for Camille at this moment. And now, do you think Kim would come back? 'Cause you know, Kyle's roommate sound like Kimwell, it doesn't even care about being on the show. - Kim needs to be on the show. This cast needs to stay exactly how it is with Brandi promoted to full time. That is my ideal situation. - I agree, I think that sounds perfect. So let's talk about some other, do you have any other things to talk about this, or can we move on to- - I'm just excited to see Kim drunk saying that she's an alcoholic in the part three of the reunion. - Next week should be good, and plus the hog spins are there. It'll be good, I'm very excited for all of it. - They love to stretch the shit out. - They should, they should, they should stretch it. Like a giant vagina after birth. - Oh no, oh no, candy coated nights. - Candy coated nights. All right, so let's switch gears from housewives for a second, 'cause this is a Bravo podcast, and there's more on Bravo than just housewives. Although you wouldn't know it. - That's true. - But there is more. - And one of the other marquee shows is Top Chef. - You know, we are coming to the end. - We are coming to the end. At the beginning of the season, I didn't think that, I actually don't think that the cast is necessarily the most talented, but I'm fully invested in the show, and more so, I'm invested in Padma's hideous outfits. - Oh, well, I'm just, well, I don't think they're all hideous, but- - No majority of them are. - You know, I have to say, I'm actually really enjoying the challenge of the season. I liked this past week was the P.B. Herman Challenge. Of course, by the time there's probably airs, there will already be another episode of Top Chef that airs. - Right. - But the P.B. Herman Challenge was the last one that we saw as at the Supreme News. - We all thought that the P.B. Herman, you know, guest spot was gonna be ridiculous, but the challenges were both great. - It was really cool. They had to find a restaurant. They probably had a list of restaurants that they could go to, and they had to cook in the restaurant, and it was just like a fun, silly challenge. I thought the fat girl was gonna pass out on her bicycle. I forget her name, Sarah. I think her name is Sarah. - It is, and she's awful, and I hate her. - But, yeah, she is awful. I also believe that she's probably the most, I think she's probably one of the top two, in terms of talent. I mean, she seems very talented. - She's talented, but I hate her. - She has a fat attitude. You know what, 'cause she picked on Beverly too much, and Beverly said like a sweetheart. - Team Beverly. - Team Beverly, she was a mess, but she's a sweetheart. Plus, I love Korean food, so I'm always gonna have-- - Asian fetish, Asian fetish. - Yeah, seriously. - But moving on to the elimination, I was actually kind of bummed because I've been rooting for Grayson a lot this season, and one of the reasons why I do like Grayson is, because she's the only other female in that house that had Beverly's back. And all these other mean bitches were like evil to Beverly. Grayson had her back. - Yeah, I was shocked. You know, it sort of, I got the sense that the elimination could go any way last week, but what was really weird to me is that they made, they set it up that like, Ed, it looked like Ed was going to be going home for, he did something, he salted something, or he under salted something. I don't know, this is like a week ago, I can't remember. But they made it seem like it was either you could be Ed or Sarah, right? - Yeah, and-- - They played when someone was on the mix too, but they really made it seem like Ed. - They played up the fact, they played up like, Ed and Sarah's mistakes. And Grayson, the editing was just like, "Oh, there's just a lot going on in this plate." So you're like, "Okay, well, whatever." And then it's like, "Oh, Grayson, you're going home." It was shocking, and I think that Tom click you on "Watch What Happens Live" said, you know, if you just watched on the show, you wouldn't have no idea why she was kicked off. - Okay, let me just tell you my theory. - I am not buying this for a second, because I think that Tom is still pissed off from the previous week, when Grayson kind of put him in his place when she was like, "So you think that my chicken salad "is boring yet you like a meatball?" Like, that was one of the best-- - But Tom likes to spunk. - But that was one of the best Top Chef sass outs in the history, and I just honestly think that Tom was still bitter about that, and I think he wanted to put Grayson in our place. - I think Tom likes, he liked, I think he always seems to enjoy it when they speak up. He's a little, you know, I think he likes to get a little chubby. By the way, I have to say this also. I love Tom Clickyo, but he's been making a lot of really bad jokes this season. Have you noticed the dinner table? - No, it's-- - It's like he makes these puns, and he's like giggles, and everyone has to smile politely. - Yeah, but it's an awkward smile. - Yeah, every single time. He made like five bad jokes in front of Charlize Theron. - I know, in Charlize. - In front of P.B. Herman. - I know, but talk about two great episodes back to back. I mean, this season really has had some great guests. - Yeah, and it was just renewed for a 10th season. - Good, it's a great show. - It is a great show. - It's an Emmy award winner. - You had to enjoy the fact that during the quick fire, P.B. Herman went through every single dish and said, "This is the best pancake I've ever had." - Oh my God. - That was actually very funny. - Okay, well, with only a few weeks left, who are you putting your money behind? - It's tough. - I'm gonna say Paul. - I think everybody is-- - I think he's come down to Paul and Sarah. I think that Lindsey, Lindsey and Ed-- - They're good, but they're-- - They're good, but they're-- - They're the next to go. I think it's hard to say. - I can see Ed doing an upset making the three, but I think Lindsey and Ed are gonna battle for third place, but I think it's gonna be between Sarah and Paul. 'Cause I think Paul has been consistently great. Sarah, she has a bad attitude, but I also feel like I can't help feel like sometimes it's partially some of the editing. I'm sure, and at the end of the day, she actually always makes stuff that looks delicious, and it's always well-received. - She makes too many fucking sausages. - I know, she sausages and meatballs. And here she was yelling at Beverly. - Jamie, who only made scallops. - Scallops. - Jamie's latest restaurant just closed. - No, I know. - She's got a new one now, but how many-- - That's hilarious. - Yeah, but she closed Beachwood. I mean, she shut that shit down. I mean, Jamie has a bad track record. - Yeah, I still wanna go to Wolf's there, though. - Oh, I totally do too. - Okay, so we are the most shallow podcast. We bash people, and we're like, oh yeah, we love them though. - Yeah, and they better put us at the top of the list. - Yeah. - Okay, so we both think that Paul is probably the oddest on favorite TV. - Oh, what about the-- - That's what I'm getting at. So, who's coming back from last chance? - Have you watched any last chance kitchen, by the way? - Of course not. I don't like to watch a video. - I don't generally like to do the web extras, but I actually say I actually have been watching it. - You have. - It's good. It's fun. It's like five minutes. It's actually, as web extras go, I think they do a good job with it. - Well, I mean, I obviously think, you know, it's gonna be Grayson against Beverly, and I just, the storyline is so good to have Beverly come back into that house because the way she left had she won immunity I think it's just like some sweet, sweet justice for her to come back and battle Sarah. - And it's not like it's a case of Beverly being, what's that girl, woman's name, Robin, from the Las Vegas, he's in that older woman with the cancer. - Right. - Beverly was actually consistently impressing the judges, making very good stuff. And honestly, the only people who had any issues with the fact that she always took the Asian stuff were just the other her competitors. - Yeah, were judges? - We're jealous people like Lindsey. - Yeah, the judges, well more Heather and Sarah were really-- - Well, the three of them were nasty mean girls. - Yeah. - So honestly, it would be fun to see Beverly come back. That being said-- - Could Beverly come back and win, let me ask you that. - No, she can't, I don't think she can win. - Why? - I think Paul is too good. - I think she's gonna come back and win. - No. - Yeah, why not? - You're crazy, Matt. - I know. - You're crazy, I don't less. You got too much sriracha on the brain. - Speaking of sriracha, let's talk about the Salah. What is their name, the Sahaz of-- - The Shahz of Sunset. - Is that their last name? - I don't know what their last name is, but I will give you points for making one of the most awkward transitions of all time. - Wow. - Nice from sriracha, it should be the sriracha as a sunset. That's how it should have been done. - Let me see. - Yeah, so this is Ryan Seacrest's take on Jersey Shore. The Shahz of Sunset. - What is their nationality? - Persian. - Okay. - It's basically like look at these crazy Persians in Los Angeles. - They're Beverly Hills set. - Yeah, it's gonna, I have to say when I heard about it, I was like, you know, I don't know this will be that good. I don't think like people are as curious about Persians as they are about like Weidos. But then I saw a promo on Monday night and I have to say I was like, I'm ready to watch this, I'm excited. - I mean, Ryan Seacrest is turning everything into gold with all these stupid Kardashian shows. - He's really into people from the Levant. - He is, he is, he wants. He wants Kardashians, he wants Persians. - My whole thing is-- - This is gonna be a Lebanese show. - I just don't think this fits the Bravo brand. I don't know why, but it just feels a little too, dare I say, VH1. - I could definitely see that however, the promo actually felt very real housewives-ish. So I think they made it, I think they brought it to their brand. - Okay, well, we'll see. - I think they can make it work. I think Bravo can make it work for sure. I mean, I agree. - We're gonna commit to it, we're committing. - I'm gonna commit to that one. - Now, why don't you commit to Tabitha? Because you should-- - I've been trying to, I just recorded it tonight. - Okay, okay. - I am theme-- - Here's the problem with Tabitha. - I have these weird DVR habits, which is that I have the shows that I watch, and then I sometimes will be very reluctant to add on to my DVR. But I will add Tabitha on. - Okay, good. - 'Cause I like Raising. - I loved, you know, season one of "Sure Genius." I loved, and Tabitha, I loved on that. I was a Tabitha fan from way back. - And now she's doing not just salons. Tonight is a fro-yo sound. - N.J.S. - N.J.S. - N.J.S. - It's true. - That's my model, my life. - I also secretly, well, not so secretly love Bethany. I don't feel like that you share the same pattern. - But as long as we're doing this podcast, I will watch. - I mean, it's gonna be her final season, so you can commit to like 10 more episodes. - It's her final season? - She doesn't want her child, Bryn, to grow up in reality TV, or on reality TV, so she said it's the end. Do I believe it's the end? - No, no. - No, it's Bethany, let me make $100 million of "Frankel." - Yeah, exactly. - So. - Yeah, since when does Bethany, no, this is, just keep the kid off camera. That's all she has to do. - I agree. - And finally, it's a Brad Brad world. Do we care? - I don't care. - I don't care. - I like Brad, but-- - I like him, but I don't care enough to watch. - Yeah, I'm trying to think of what other shows are on. They've got "Love Broker." I don't care about that. - "Love Broker" looks like a broke down paddy stanger mixed with that baby lady that had that terrible show. - Yeah, that somehow got swooped on "SNL." Quite well, believe it or not. - Yeah, one of Abialia's few good parodies. - Oh, snap, snap on the Abialia. - And then we have a million dollar listing New York version. - Yeah, I don't really care about those real things. - Really? - Look, for the sake of the podcast, I'll watch some of these shows. - You need to get up with them. - I know, I'm like, let's start a bravo podcast but I refuse to watch any shows. (laughs) - And finally, I guess, you know, Atlanta. We still have plenty of Atlanta left, don't we? - Yeah, we're still in the middle of the Africa trip. - Yeah, so what's your take on Marla? Is she a man? - Yes. - Okay, we'll just-- - Full on man. - Full on man, okay? - All right, and on that note, I think we've covered the basics for this week. - I think we have. - Well, this is lots of fun. - It was. - Thank you, Matt. - We missed Ronnie, but we-- - We missed Ronnie, but hopefully we pulled it together. - Yeah, I think we certainly did. I'm just hoping all three of us can reunite sooner rather than later. It's hard if one has difficult schedules. - I know. - It's hard for you, this is a war season, so you're very busy. You're a busy-- - Busy and glamorous. - Yes, he's pulling out his extensions right now. - Man. - All right, well, thank you everyone. Remember you can follow us on Twitter. - Yeah. W.W. Crapins. - Why are you laughing? That's the only option we have. - I do, I just laugh 'cause it really sounds like an old British man, like an old British like-- - Well, that's our name on the Twitter. - W.W. Crapins. - Like you go there to, you know, it's extraordinary. - Buy a monocle. - Yeah, and then they can also follow us individually on Twitter. I'm @lifeonmeamless. - And I'm just beside blogging B-S-I-D-E-B-L-O-G 'cause sometimes people don't know. - They don't, sometimes. - Beside blog, one word. - Anywho, we'll reconvene. - And you can follow Ronnie at TV as him. - Yes, you can, and you should. But we'll reconvene and do this again next week. We have obviously the true finale for Beverly Hills, part three of the reunion. We will have another episode of OC. - And more Africa. - And more Africa with Marlova Man. - More top chef. I mean, we got a full-- - Yeah, the next few weeks are big for us. - Sounds like we got a four-course meal of bravo to put it in top chef's dress. - Yeah, where's Gail? - I wish he was with us. - All right. Thanks, thanks everyone for listening and thank you, Matt. - And that's about it. Adios. - Bye. - If you like Watch what Crap is, you can listen ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Before you go, tell us about yourself by filling out a short survey at Wondery.com/survey. Are you in trouble with the law? 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