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Welcome to Big D Energy live on the Woodward Sports Network. It is a big package Friday. And also Fridays are a pretty just chill, fun show. And we all know it's going to be fun because I, of course, am flannel Sam, filling in for Darren McCarty. And the man to my right, the man whose face should be on the moniker this week because of how often you've been on, Terry Foster. Yes, and you'll introduce everybody because I want to talk to you about something because about back in the day that I used to do that none of y'all know about. Ooh, all right. So we got A.G. Justin and Sven Morex. Hello. Hello. Hey, everybody. Hey, I brought up something. I used to play Stratomatic football, baseball, and basketball. What is that sound? So I brought it up. You guys are like, what the hell are you talking about? Stratomatic. It was the 1970s Madden or the 1970s college football game. Because we didn't have all this stuff. So what we used to do is we used to have charts and it was an offensive chart, a defensive chart. It had different players on there. You would call plays. Oh, wait. I've actually played that. My dad. I played with my dad. I'm dead serious. Like bullshit. Now you know about it. I didn't know the name, but it's the one with it as plays. You hold the dice and you go up the field. The field is a piece of paper. Yeah, I have played the game. We had updated rosters. Wow. They make new ones of current rosters and I'd always play with the 2014 Oregon Ducks. My dad would play with the 1997 Michigan Wolverines and we had some great battles playing that game, but hey, my bad for not recognizing it, but I am hip as the youngest person in this room. That's crazy. What do you expect me to be the one that understood what you thought about camera turns on and not. It was a it was a fun game. We didn't have anything back then. We didn't have the two was making the players look just like, you know, the players today and stuff. So that's what we did and my the best game I ever played that I still remember. Denny McLean, Tigers pitcher, yeah, it's almost impossible to do 13 hit. Shut up. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Must have induced a lot of double plays I would say. Yeah, a lot of strikeouts, a lot of strikeouts and a lot of double plays. It was a simpler time. A much a much simpler time in some ways better and in some ways worse, but I wouldn't know too much because I was born in 1991, but I know right old, well, I shouldn't say that with Terry Foster on the desk next to me. Your time comes. Many don't work. Absolutely. I was born. I was covering the Pistons. Hey, hey. And the Pistons were just right off of their glory years. Yeah. 91 was the year they lost. They got swept by the Bulls, but, you know, a couple of years before that, they, of course, one back to back. Just when the bad boys were actually becoming bad, but one thing that I wanted to get into just, I know some people might be tired of hearing about it, but I see it across all shows. I know the heavyweights did a lot on it yesterday, wake up Woodward has touched on it. Big D energy has touched on it. This whole Tarek scuba thing. Yeah. One thing that I want to make as clear as absolute crystal is that I don't want to trade Tarek scuba. I don't think anybody here wants to trade Tarek scuba. I know. I know Terry Foster. You don't want to trade Tarek scuba. I don't. Fair enough. 100% fair. But the one thing, and I noticed this on the heavyweights last night, and I thought you guys did a really good job, the one thing that has maybe shifted the hearts and minds of some is the potential haul that the Baltimore Orioles could give. I know even you, Spenny, at the beginning of the segment, we're pretty adamant about no, but if the Orioles are willing to give up Jackson, holiday, Samuel Bassalo, and Kobe Mayo, you at least listen, and I actually say you do more than listen. You pick up the phone and you take that trade because those are three of the top 15 prospects in MLB baseball. That is a haul, the likes of which I don't think I've ever seen. That is something that you serves, even what the Washington Nationals were able to give to the San Diego Padres. And to me that the Baltimore Orioles, they're set up in a position to where they can make this like the stars have absolutely aligned for them to be able to do that. So Terry Foster, is that the type of move that you would listen three of the top 15 prospects for Tarek scuba? I always listen, even they're offering you up for Tarek scuba. I would listen. Yes. I will laugh at them and hang up the damn phone, but you always listen. My take on this, yeah, that's a great haul, but they're prospects. I'm sick and tired of the tigers and prospects. I was getting prospects, prospects, prospects. We're getting some real damn players and you got a real damn player in scuba. So why not keep them? I guess my answer to that, and I get what you're saying, we've all seen what Alavila was able to get back for trades for basically an all-star team, a bag of bones, pretty much. And Jake Rogers, who this year has fallen off a cliff, he absolutely blows. But with this one, Jackson Holiday and Kobe Mayo, I think are MLB-ready. Jackson Holiday, you saw him at the major league level this year. It didn't look so great, but it was his first 36 at bats of his career and he's 20 years old. And, uh, Spenny, one thing I will say, I was watching, I wish I could have really tapped in and teleported into the studio. Your boy Caleb was being real dismissive of Jackson Holiday. Yeah, he was. And I was kind of like really dismissive of Jackson Holiday? Yeah, he was. He just loves to re-schoolable and he doesn't want to trade him at any cost. He said that Jackson Holiday is terrible in Triple A. Did he say that or did he not? Or was I listening? He said he was having a bad year this year. His on-base percentage is over 440 in Triple A. 440. Damn. And I'm not trying to attack Caleb or anything, and if he was here, we would have a discussion about it or just our schedules don't really line up. But if he comes to the back later, I'll talk to him about it, but those are, to me, that's a little bit crazy. And why I say that the Baltimore Orioles are, they are, there's like a plant, there's like a, a star's aligning sort of element to why they're, they might be able to do something like this is that last season, we all know the Baltimore Orioles, they weren't expected to do what they did, but led by young stars like Gunnar Henderson and Adley Rushman, they made the playoffs. They also promptly flamed out in the playoffs. And why is that? Why really did they flame out? Starting pitching and game two, their starting pitcher went one and two thirds, five earned runs and in game three, their starting pitcher went one and two thirds, six earned runs. Those are the type of starting pitching performances in which you're out of the game immediately before it even starts. And that's pretty much what happened. The one pitcher who did pitch well enough to win in that series was Kyle Braddish. He went like four and two thirds with like two earned runs. However, the Orioles, what they were thinking coming into this season, the reason that I know that they're going for it is because they were willing to trade for Corbin Burns, even though he was on an expiring contract and think that he was the ace that might be able to take him over the top. And along with Kyle Braddish, maybe create a nice one, two punch. But Kyle Braddish is now hurt and Corbin Burns, he's been exactly as advertised, but he might not be back next year. The Terrick Scooble getting to the Baltimore Orioles right now, they'd have definitely the best one to starting pitching punch and all of MLB baseball. They would have the top of the rotation that almost would guarantee you series wins as long as they pitch to their capability and also what they're willing to give up. Here's the thing. They have Gunnar Henderson, they have Adley Rochman, they have Jordan Westbrook. What positions do they play? Gunnar Henderson's shortstop, Adley Rochman is catcher, Jordan Westbrook is third base. What are the prospects that the Tigers would be asking for, shortstop Jackson Holiday, catcher Samuel Bassalo and third baseman Kobe Mayo and oh by the way, Samuel Bassalo can also play first base, but the Orioles have that cover too with Ryan Moundcastle and Ryan O'Hern. So what the Orioles could potentially give is a haul, obviously a prospect haul, but with Terrick Scooble, you could almost offset the potential loss of Corbin Burns because he'd get you under team control for a couple more years. You'd still have your prodigious lineup because a lot of those prospects might not even ever play for the Orioles or play significant because they're behind guys who are proven and who are all stars. So to me, if I'm the Orioles, I might not even make this deal. And that's the type of deal that you need if you're the Detroit Tigers, something that maybe the Orioles would be like, that's too much. But the Orioles, the way that they're at, the way they're going all in, especially with Anthony Santander, also being an undrafted free agent, I'm just saying, you might get something the likes of which you've never seen before for Terrick Scooble. And for that reason, if they give you, if they were to give you Jackson Holiday, Samuel Bassalo and Kobe Mayo, you take that trade seriously, you take that trade even if it is for Terrick Scooble. No, I'm gonna pull a Donald Trump during the debate with Joe Biden. I have no idea what he just said, and he doesn't even know what he just said. I do know what I just said. That's, that's all well and good, but I mean, I, I do know what I just said. All I'm saying is- I know you're done messing with you. Young man. I know. I know. But that is, I wanna, and I know we've, it's, it's been said and done before, and we've talked about it before, but one last time I want to go around the room, KG, I'll start with you. What would Baltimore even do this trade and be if they are willing to give you those three prospects? Are you trading Terrick Scooble? I do think Baltimore would do the trade if they're serious about really going after a World Series. They obviously need pitching, and they do have the chance to get Scooble and Flaherty maybe in a, in a package deal for that. And what was your other question? I was gonna say, well, I was just gonna say, should the Tigers do it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you're going to trade him, that's the type of return I would need. I'm not advising to trade him if you don't, if you really want to keep Scooble fine, but that's the type of return I would need if you're going to trade Terrick. And the thing too is conversely, if the Baltimore Orioles say, no, thank you, you could just hang up the phone because there's also a pathway for the Tigers keeping Terrick Scooble and the prospects continuing to grow and the core continuing to grow. And in the off season, even if you, even if Chris Illich doesn't want to go after like a Juan Soto or a Pete Alonzo or, um, or Alex Breggman, you could get some cheaper guys that would help you right away like a Jesse Winker or like a Tommy fan. Those are, that's another option, but the haul that you could potentially get for Terrick Scooble, especially since Terrick Scooble is under team control and there's all those circumstances I just mentioned with Baltimore, I'm just saying they might give you something which is biblical, something that even experts might be like Baltimore, bro, we love Terrick Scooble, but come on, Justin. I think if they're giving up that haul or possibly more, I think it has to be considered. I kind of on a 60/40 on whether we should do it or not, probably 60 yes, 40 no. At the same time for what you just said about going after a Soto or an Alonzo, I don't necessarily like, if we don't go after those guys, because everyone says like, oh, that's unrealistic. But if you don't even try to go after those guys, it just proves that we are the unserious organization that we have talked about possibly being as we've gone through this 10 year stretch of mediocrity and broder in the chat, please, dear lord, not Peter Lonzo. And for the record, that's not my first choice, but I don't know if you can necessarily poo poo Peter Lonzo. I know it would be a lot of money and I even gave you some more like cheaper moneyball options like Jesse Winker and a Tommy fan, but Peter Lonzo, especially a Spencer Torkelson continues to struggle and triple A and he's not part of the future. You need a long bar here. He's a guy who's hit 50 home runs. Moneyball doesn't win you the world series. Big bats who hit home runs do and that's not what moneyballs about and you need those big bats to win a world series and you have to bring them in somehow. That's fine. Get to the playoffs first. And if Chris Illich isn't willing to get a Peter Lonzo, that's why I said bring Jesse Winker and Tommy fam home, please, spendy, do you think Baltimore would actually give that kind of a haul of three of the top 15 MLB prospects? No, I don't think they would. I don't think that's something Baltimore would give up. If they did, I would do it if I was the Tigers, but I don't think they'll give up all. And that's what I'm really trying to impress upon the people is that everybody mentions the Juan Soto trade and how Washington looks like the smartest organization ever because San Diego wasn't even able to keep Juan Soto and a lot of those guys seem like they're panning out and getting to the big leagues and making an impact. But the Tigers could get for Taric Scooble, who is less impactful of a player than Juan Soto, by the way, primarily because of the position that he plays. He could be Cy Young and they still suck, which is kind of what the Tigers are right now. If you can get a better haul than that for Taric Scooble for a team like Baltimore, where the stars kind of align, it's not the craziest thing in the world. And like I said before, Baltimore might not even do it. They might want to keep Basallo, they might want to keep Mayo, they might want to keep holiday, which is a conversation ender, by the way. But it would take something like that for the Orioles to get to... Can you slow down for a second? Yes. Here's the mistake, not count, but we're all make here in Detroit. We always come up with this great trade scenario that benefits Detroit mostly. It's never an even thing. I don't think Baltimore is going to make that trade because Taric Scooble is a hell of a starting pitcher. But starting pitching isn't as important today as it was 15, 20 years ago. And I mean, you got managers and AJ Hintz is not the only one doing it. Yeah, if a guy is on, you're pitching him six inning. Yeah. He's not going seven and eight innings like he used to. It's not... Every time Scooble hits the mile, it's not my game because it used to be when a guy started a game. Yeah. Shut up. If I'm struggling in the seventh or eighth, you can take me out. Now it's, you know, six innings, you can have a shot, no hitter, and with shaking hands. That's... I'm sitting down. No. That's 100% fair. And yeah, even Taric Scooble, I don't think he's pitched a complete game all season. The last one that I saw was a Justin Steele for the Cubs and it was a couple of weeks ago. And it almost never ever happens before, especially for someone like Taric Scooble who has a Tommy John history and even missed the beginning of last season due to injury. I understand that it's just, I think the allure for the Baltimore Orioles, and I'm not saying they would make this trade to have the one, two punch of Corbin Burns and Taric Scooble and the next season know that barring injury, of course, that they would have an ace to maybe potentially offset the loss of Corbin Burns. I don't know. I think that's a very attractive, at least for them. And... You know, we probably need a new stat. I know you love stats. Maybe we need a little league complete game. That means if a guy goes seven innings, that's a little league complete game. That actually is a solid stat, a little league complete game. But you know what? What isn't solid? Bob in the chat. Hey, Bob, don't be casual now. Don't be casual now. Sam, Jesse Winker is just another average bet. Better as a platoon player and we have enough of those. Jesse Winker's career on base percentage is 370. That's insane for all of you guys who don't know. Nobody does that. Look at the All-Star rosters and tell me how many of them have on base percentages of 370. And again, I'm not saying Jesse Winker is an All-Star, but this season he cost $1.5 million. You could give him, if you're the Tigers, $5 million a year and it's still making him choke on a contract. That's the beauty of Moneyball. And Jesse Winker would make this, would make this offense better. He would. 100%. Yes. And for to get a little granular, he is a top 25 bet in the National League right now. He is 23rd in OPS, which is the pure batting category when you come to stats in my opinion. Sure. And I think that Jesse Winker would 100% help this team a ton. He is another 800 OPS guy, which we severely lack in this lineup. How many 800 OPS guys do we have in this lineup? Riley Green. Riley Green. Yeah. Just Riley Green. Cool. And then a carry carpenter when he's, when he was healthy, he was 914. But keep loading. Hey, he might be, his July was great. Hey, and speaking of Colte Keith, you know what we're going to do when we get back? What? Detroit Tigers nickel package. So more Tigers topic. I know people are kind of tired of talking about scuba, so let's get into the stuff that we already know and who's already here. But first, I got to tell you about Dyspo. 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We got the Bootham Kids shirt. We got the Jack Campbell meat missile shirt, the Stokenot scared shirt, anything you can ever dream of all at shop.wilbertsports.com. I think we have to have a definition of continuous hot street. Because he's obviously not going to go have a 1,200 OPS the rest of the season because even a guy like Miguel Cabrera never had a season where he was 1,100 OPS. If I'm Colt Keith or if you're a fan of Colt Keith, your goal should be starting tonight with their opener of the second half at Toronto. He's got to finish this. He's got to go in the second half with an 800 OPS and then we're very, very happy. And if he does that, you're going to look at his numbers at the end of the year and he's going to be in rookie of the year consideration. I don't answer questions with the word good. I'm going to tell you, is it going to happen or not? Is he going to continue this hot streak? No, but he's going to be a little bit better than Luke Warm. I kind of believe in this guy. I think he's going to still play good baseball, not at this point, not at this pace that he did. But at the end of the day, even flannel Sam is going to say, you know what, Colt Keith has better numbers than Riley Green. No chance of that still, but that's, that's, that's, that's all right. That's all right. Justin, go ahead. I think that Colt Keith will cool down. I think that it is going to be a pretty rapid cool down to start this. Here we go. To start this. To start this all star, the second half of the season off, I think he's going to be a little colder than he was. And then I think he's going to find his stride again, maybe after this Toronto series, maybe six games deep. I think he's going to take a little second to heat back up again. And then I think he's going to raise to that 800 OPS expectation that, that we seem to have for him. That's fair. Now we booed him, but that makes perfect sense because at the beginning of the season, nobody knew who Colt Keith was. Yeah. Right. Now the pitchers know who he was. They know what he likes. There's going to be adjustments. There's always adjustments. That's probably the cool down, but he'll adjust to and maybe that's where he'll warm up again. And that's where I'm going. I definitely think like he, he's obviously going to cool down. I mean, 1200 OPS, that's like impossible to keep up, but he's figured some things out at the plate and especially in terms of like squaring up the fastball, he still has some work to do with all speed. But ultimately I do think that he'll maintain like solid numbers the rest of the way fair enough. Question number two. Next question of the nickel package. Do you want to trade Carson Kelly and Jack Flaherty or do you need to? I'm sorry. No. And here's, here's why. Do you need to trade? And if you guys watch Wake Up Woodward, you already know where I'm going with this. You need to trade Geo or Shella to the Seattle Mariners today, right now. You package a deal with Geo or Shella and Ryan Velade and you get back one of their top 100 prospects, either the 91st ranked prospect shortstop or their 100 ranked prospect first baseman because Geo or Shella he, he provides a particular set of skills that the Mariners need right now. The Mariners are last and major league baseball and batting average, but they're still leading their division. But for me, if I'm general manager, Geo or Shella, he does two things not well enough that I just can't stand. He doesn't get on base enough and he doesn't slug enough. His on base percentages under 300 is opias is under 700. We've got enough guys in this lineup that are over that those thresholds, including one Carson Kelly, that you can, I think, fleece the Seattle Mariners or even if you're not fleecing them, give them a need and give it to be mutual beneficial. So no to Flaherty and Carson Kelly. Yes, to Geo or Shella outside of Flaherty in school. The whole roster is open for me. I put all of them up for trade and see what I can get. I put Riley Green in that list. I would too. Wow. Terry wants him off the team. Oh, I'm on the untouchable list. He's not untouchable either. Yes. Yes, he is. Nobody's untouchable. You need this team. You can't trade away ever. No, no, no, no, no, no, you're not going to trade away everybody. Everybody's going to be on the block and if you get me a ridiculous offer, I'm trading his ass. If you don't, then they say there's no way inside the block. I think you do keep Riley Green, but ultimately, I mean, if you can find a deal for Kelly Fine, but to me, Flaherty has to go. That has to be the must move person in this deadline deal because, I mean, if you want to resign them fine, but I would try to do that in the off season. He's on the one year deal. Do not let this guy walk for nothing because there is a good chance he can just walk for nothing. Dad's not coming home. KG Flaherty, if he goes, he's leaving for good. He's not coming back in free agency. Yeah. So I would get with you. Young Bucks answer me this question. Why is Riley Green an untouchable? He's an all star and he's got all kinds of team control. He's the best thing you've got offensively. Yeah. Literally. And you're 47 and 50. They're not the White Sox. They're not the Marlins. It's the most competitive thing. Are you, hold on, hold on. Are you the same guy that says they're two bats away and they just need to spend in the off season? If that's the case, then Riley, then Riley Green is a critical part of this roster. That hit. Listen to this. I didn't say trade him. I said I would put him up for grabs. There's no untouchables on this team. I mean, there's no, you know, there's no Miguel Cabrera in their prime. You know, him, he's an untouchable, Riley Green to me is a good player. But he's not one of these. I got to keep him. I got to keep him. I don't keep him. I'm in trouble. Do you think that he makes another all star appearance in his career? Sure. He will. Yeah. And he wouldn't be deserved. I don't know about that. I'm just with Justin. You don't want to take bats away. That's the last thing the Tigers need right now is taking a good bat. Well, I'll be bringing one in. Hello. Yes, maybe. Yeah. A prospect. Who is it going to be on the roster? One more time. Young fellas. I know you young and dumb, but once again, if I'm not bringing in a guy who I believe is going to be a good hitter, I'm not trading Riley Green, but I'm listening to offers. So I hear you won't get an MLB player for Riley Green. Are you listening to offers for scuba? Yes. Well, gee, he's a younger guy. How could you do that? Well, you want more control over Riley Green for a longer period of time. It matters. Pitching is a strength. You don't want to take away from a weakness. Pitching is a strength. You have expendable pitchers on this team. You do. Okay. My point is this. Everybody is up for grabs. There's no untouchables. I hear you said scuba, who's the best thing going is not untouchable. I get you. So how can you get up? Oh, no. You can't trade draw the Riley Green. I don't think it would be wise to do that. But one more thing though about the scuba thing, I'm not talking about you trade him for whatever. I'm talking about when it comes to the Baltimore Orioles, a historic haul that Riley Green could never get. And it would be something that Baltimore needs. Baltimore, I mean Baltimore could always, any team in Major League Baseball that's contending could use a Riley Green because contrary to some popular opinion, Riley Green would start on every single contending team in Major League Baseball. There's no doubt about that. But with taric scuba, you're getting, we don't want to trade taric scuba. We might not even listen to that offer that the Red Sox could give. With that Baltimore one, it's a very specific set of circumstances. And right now, Riley Green, it just, it just, you couldn't get that for him. And right now, if Riley Green wasn't on this team, they'd be the Los Angeles Angels. And you have the same amount of control with scuba and the same amount of control. Yeah, Riley Green. I'm sorry. I am just confused here. Let me get this straight. You would put taric scuba up for grabs, yes, even though you say he's the best pitcher in baseball. Yes. But you wouldn't Riley Green, even though nobody is saying he's the best outfielder in baseball. Is that right? Yeah. I don't get it. Why? Pitching is a strength. Once again, you have way more pitchers that you can deal. But you still trade him. If you could. But I'm saying you can recover from a scuba deal as opposed to Riley Green. You tray him. This offense is this terrible. Like you say, you'll be the angels at that point. The hall will be also way bigger for scuba. Absolutely. Yes. I agree with that, but the point is, I would say Major League Baseball, here, you can have at my roster. If you want Riley Green, give me your best shot. No. You want? I get what you mean there. Like outside, just wouldn't advise it. I don't think that's the best move to make. We all have somewhere we're trying to get to. As the largest energy producer in Colorado, Chevron is working to responsibly meet rising energy demand. So everyone can get to where they want to be. You've arrived. 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We've got Justin in the mash chair and we've got Spenmo racks in the TD booth. And now without further ado, let's continue this Tigers nickel package because that last question sparked a really good discussion and I didn't want to cut that short. We'll go quicker. I'll keep my damn mouth shut. Terry, honestly, whatever really sparks your interest, we can keep it going as long as possible. But without further ado, Spenmo racks, question number three of the Tigers nickel pack. All right, third question of the Tigers nickel package. What do you do with Harvey bias? Shoot him to the moon, right? Like honestly, break easily. No, no, like, but like for real, he should never be allowed to do get into the batter's box for the Detroit Tigers ever again. And because nobody else is going to pick him up, he should never be allowed to play majorly baseball again because even though we have, we saw what they did in that final eight and two stretch to end the season. If you have this man starting games at shortstop, that's just shows that you're not serious, that you don't give a damn about them making a run because for everybody. And I know I heard it a lot and it really made me upset. People were just like, Oh, did you see Ryan Kreidler? He's even worse. Well, I've got some, some, some solutions. You move Andy Abani to shortstop and you tell hobby bias to piss off and never step in here again. And if you don't want to do that, you have Zach McKinstry over there every single day because Zach McKinstry is bad, but hobby bias is having one of the worst seasons we've ever seen. So shoot that man to space. I never want to see his face again. If I were to say what I want to have happen to the hobby bias, the cancer, the canceled culture crowd would be at our front step and say, we got to take Wilbur sports off there. Then I'm going over there, jump the shark. Ooh. Can't do it. Simply say that it's time to part ways with hobby bias. I don't care if you got to eat money. So what? Yeah, fair enough. And I don't want to do this whole, like Chris Illich, you'll never do it. If you're asking me and I'm being a little bit more tactful about it, DF AM. Yeah. Just DF AM. You got the money, Chris. I think we all in agreement here. I wish there was a DH position for defense because I can much rather stomach him on the defensive end than at the plate. But overall, you just got to get rid of this guy, man. I understand 90 million dollars. Maybe you don't want to pay that out. But after another year, it comes down a little bit. Just DFA to guy. Like you said, man, what are we doing here? What are we doing here? Young man. Go ahead. Don't listen to what the Tigers are telling you. He's bad defensively too. I do. And yes, I'm aware of that. I'm just saying just I could deal with him defensively, but at the plate, it's like he should have no place on this team at all. Fair. Hey, Justin. Oh, you already said, basically, just like shooting. Yeah, shooting the mood, but I'm just looking at the revenue of the team. And I don't want to say exact numbers because I don't know if this is the correct figure. But to the me when I look at it, this revenue is way more money than what it would cost to DFA. Happy bias. Yeah. So he's still making that money this year. Don't you worry. Even if he DFA is happy bias. So our payroll is low and he's taking up a good 25% of that. So and I said before, if you have hobby bias out on the field, you're basically, and I know that they're not going to go over with hobby bias, you're putting up, you're putting out somebody who is actively hurting your team at a rate that very few MLB players have ever heard their respective teams before. A 459 OPS is something biblical. It's something that they're going to write horror stories about that are going to be made into movies that are going to be as terrifying as the exorcist. But Eddie who question four, spend more question four, fourth question of the nickel package. Is there any way that the tigers buy at the deadline? Hey, AJ Hinch hopes they do it, right? Fair enough. And AJ Hinch, you must have been tapped into front office flannel on wake up Woodward because I've got a trade that you could make. And it's not something that's super sexy, but for those of you who didn't watch, my trade was you give the white socks, your number five overall prospect, picture time at it. And your number 11 overall prospect, Justice Big B for White Sox outfielder Tommy fam who is in, who is a UFA who you may or may not be able to resign, although I would like them to. He's a guy who has a lifetime 350 on base percentage. His numbers are a little bit down from, from where they usually are this year, but is on base percentages like 339. And he's a guy who has been that mercenary deadline deal three times in his career, including last season with the Arizona Diamondbacks in which he helped spark their run. He had three home runs in the playoffs. He had a home run in the World Series and as an over his baseball lifetime, he is a postseason elevator. Got to get there first, but yes, I would buy Tommy fam. Yes. They can actually, AJ Hinch was listening to me because I simply said become big boys again. Yeah. You know, show this fan base that you're serious. Show this fan base that you're willing to put a product on the field. You know, this fan base that you care as much about winning is this fan base. I believe the Tiger fans to got to be, you know, they still go, go for the Tigers, but man, it's been eight years, man. It's too long. No, I think there's a mediocre to me. The equity show them that you serious about this stuff. This is big boy school. Yeah. And I can definitely understand that man as a fan, of course, I would like them to buy. I would like them to try to go after this wildcard and salvage this season in some way, shape or form. Also, if you buy, that tells me that they would go after an above average player, but I just don't know if it's the best strategy at this point, but is there any chance they could do it? I absolutely way. AJ Hinch coming out and saying that on Detroit sports, local radio, that's putting pressure on the people up top to maybe do something. So is there a chance? Yes. Yes. I'm not a scrub. So let's yeah, stop making me manage scrubs. Sorry. I'm chat. Chat is going crazy. Shout out to Broder. Um, I just want to buy. It's as simple as that. I just want to. I want to be good. I want to I want to be entertained the rest of the season and just be tapped in, locked in and want to watch every single baseball game in September. That's what I want. And I agree. I agree. And like I said, this is the type of Tommy Fams worth $3 million this year and Tommy Fams, and I see, I see people in the chat like Steven David, please no fam. I mean, he would come in right now and be one of your highest on base percentage guys tomorrow. You might not love the player. You might think he's a little bit of a dick or whatnot. But he is a, he's been a reliable player throughout his entire career. He does have a particular set of skills that the Tigers need. And with Tommy fam in the lineup, you can pretty much guarantee that you'll never see a guy like Akil Badu again. That's my question for those of you who are anti Tommy fam. Do you like Akil Badu? Do you like, and I get it. It's different positions. Do you like seeing Zach McInstery out there? Nice triple by the way. But for the most part, you've been bad. Do you want Ryan Cridler to come back up? Do you like Havi Baez? Those are the questions that I would ask. And of course, Lorena Rios flannel going granular with the white socks. Well, create a front office rios and then get back to me because I at least have solutions. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, eat shit. That's good. That's cute. And I quote Rihanna. All they do is sell, sell, sell, sell, sell. We're gonna sell, sell, sell, sell, sell. I mean, it's the same thing every freaking year. Okay. The trade deadline is coming up. Tigers going to sell and it doesn't work. It doesn't work. They bring in all these and then Justin Verlander, make sure there's all these players is all we're going to sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell. And these players going to be good, good, good, good, good. And they're not. I like your Rihanna voice. That is a phenomenal Rihanna voice in. And before we go to the next question, Chris Blackburn, I appreciate your love for KG, but you better get some medicine for your FDS. And if you guys know what FDS, you guys probably know what FDS stands for, flannel derangement syndrome. But any who they eat at Chris, right? Question number five. What's going on? I don't know. I love the chat right now. It's looking like a heavyweight check. Final question off the nickel package. Will scuba win the Saiyang yesterday? Yes, I do. I believe that they will. And that also goes to the to why I think that the Tigers could buy. You've got three games against the angels. You've got six against the White Sox. You've got three at home against the Rockies. You've got three on the road at Oakland and you have a bunch of divisional games coming up. That an opportunity for Terrick school will go against bad teams and to go up against teams where it would really, really benefit the Tigers to win, particularly the Kansas City Royals, who they still need to pass if they're going to begin a wild card spot. My prediction is that for the rest of the season, starting right now, along with Colt Keith being 800 OPS in the second half, I think Terrick school will have it have a sub two ERA for the second half of the season, regardless of where he plays and he will win the American League, Saiyang. Last pitcher in baseball, win the Saiyang. Last time I checked, that's what they usually do. That's what he's been. He'll continue to do that. And I think AJ Hinch to make sure, you know, they always got to protect pitchers and stuff. He'll probably rest them here and there, spot rest them and make sure that his arm is ready for the rest of the season. This is your Saiyang guy. Maybe you bring in the Saiyang here to sports and let all you guys such it. That'd be cool. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's in line to win the Saiyang, man, but we will see if he stays healthy, not going wood. I can definitely see it happening. Justin. Um, sorry, I was, I was helping with social so just give me, oh, oh, no, that's, that's all well and good. Spenmo Rex is, uh, is Terrick school the Saiyang winner at the end of the season? Yes. Terrick school was the Saiyang winner at the end of the season. You look at all of the important stats for starting pitchers. He's top five, if not top two in all of them. Uh, he's going to continue that. He shows no signs of slowing down, although he's not the best pitcher in baseball. I'll say he's the best pitcher in the American league. Paul schemes is the best pitcher of it. He's one of the best pitchers I've ever seen. I know it's too early to say that, but like the stuff that he made up his own pitch. Yeah, that's great. Like the spelunker or whatever they call it. It's blinker. The dude is a freaking monster. I mean, we talked about it the other day, Terry. The only comparable I can think of for Paul schemes and I wasn't even around for back then was Fernando Valenzuela and 81 in terms of immediate impact rookies coming in and being the best pitcher in baseball. Like Paul schemes is putting up statistics that are only comparable with Nolan Ryan. Like that's, yeah, people don't do that. It's insane now, but, but the point, the point we're all trying to make is that at the end of the season, I think Terrick school will be hoisting the American league. Sayan, and I'll tell you what, Paul schemes will be hosting hoisting the national league sayan because Reynaldo Lopez is going to fall off just a tad because he's not that good. I did see MLB or ESPN or somebody put out their pitcher rankings for the AL and the NL and or for lefties and righties. I'm sorry. And for lefties, they had Ranger Suarez over Terrick school ball and Garrett crochet and I was like, that's like both of those guys are better than Ranger Suarez. Oh, yeah. 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Welcome back to Big D Energy Live on the Woodward Sports Network and something that we have covered probably not as much as other shows and some people would think that we should with everything going out going out, everything else going around into trade sports. The Detroit Lions, of course, the team coming off of an NFC Championship game appearance and poised to repeat maybe that, maybe NFC North champions, maybe the Super Bowl. So without further ado, the Lions nickel package. Spend more racks? First question. Alright, first question of the Lions nickel package. Who is cornerback 1 on this team by the end of the season? Ooh. Carlton Davis. Yeah. I don't think that the other option would maybe be Terry on Arnold is so great as a rookie that maybe he takes over. I don't see anybody like a meek doing it or a manual, mostly magically being healthy coming off of two ACLs. Here's what I think though. I think Carlton Davis will be cornerback 1 at the end of the season, but guys like Terry on Arnold, whether it's Terry on Arnold, Ennis Rakestra, a meek, whoever is in there will make it so that we can let Carlton Davis walk at the end of the season after the Lions hoistium Lombardi Trophy, of course. But this season, I'm going to say Carlton Davis. I might be falling for the fake. I might be a fool and I know you guys will. Let's go Terry. You're not for the same. I'm not for the same. Terry on Arnold. I'm telling you, I don't you believe in rookie corners. I don't. I don't. There's something about this dude that's going to shock us all. I love his attitude. Excuse me. I love the way he works out. He just he's just he's a baller. I think at the end of the day, he's going to be the Lions number one guy. Hell yeah. And I do not believe in rookies. But I believe in this rookie. Okay. I love it. Yeah. And as much as I would love that, I don't feel Terry and Arnold needs to be the number one, especially for this year. It'll be Carlton Davis. He's the veteran. He's been here before. He's done it in big moments. This is what they brought him in for. I expect him to be CB one during the season and into the playoffs. I I want to say Terry and Arnold, I really do Terry because I if he is that fucking love Terry and Arnold that I love his game. I love the athletic offside. I love how good he is on the press. How good of a tackler he is. But I have to go. Carlton Davis. I mean, he's got the pedigree. He's won a Super Bowl. He's going to be the leader in that cornerback room. I got to go Carlton Davis, but I want to believe I want to believe that that dog Terry and Arnold will be in that CB one spot. Spreading you. I'll admit I could be on crack. No, that's right. I could be a little cracky. You're not like this. You're not there. If you're on crack, I'm on it with you. Let's go smoking the bag. I love it. I love this kid. I love what he brings. I thought he was the best cornerback talent in the draft and you got him at 24. He is a man guy. He's going to do a lot of great things in this system and being eased into it rather than thrown in the fire is definitely going to help. Give me Terry and Arnold. I love it. It would be awesome if it happened and that in turn would make Carlton Davis, not that I necessarily want to be expendable, but he's one of the more expensive players on this on this team as of right now. So yeah, I'm going to. You know what's going to happen. What's up? You're going to find me and spinny on the street corner somewhere with a little white nips. A little needle saying it out of her. A little needle saying it out of her. I got him over the tape, but if Brad Holmes would have done it again, if Terry and Arnold is a CB one at the end of the season, but but I'll be there in the crack house with my buddy. I got it. I got it. I got it. Next year. Next year. I'm with y'all. We got room for you on the car. We'll keep the needle. All right. Questions to you, buddy. All right. Next. Shut up the lines. Nickel package. Who will finish second on this team in sex? Oh, good question. Good question. I'm going to. I'm going to call my shot right now and I don't think it's calling a shot. I'm going to go a Lee McNeil on this one. I am because we saw it and I get it. We saw what James Houston did a couple of seasons ago. First off, I don't think I think Marcus Davenport is playing somewhere between 10 and 12 games this year. That's what most of his history will show. So I don't think he's going to play the whole year with the Lee McNeil. I just I keep thinking about how much he could benefit from having DJ reader next to him. How many less double teams he's going to see? The fact that if you get pressure up the interior, it's a quicker route to the quarterback. Last season, a Lee McNeil had five and 13 games with Benito Jones, Bohana, Tyson, Aliwalu, whoever the hell you wanted to put on that defensive line opposite him now or beside him. Now you've got DJ reader and I think a Lee McNeil will be you could argue and I know some people say hutch and I would probably agree that besides for Aiden Hutchinson, the the next biggest direct beneficiary from having DJ reader is a Lee McNeil. I don't think he can catch the quarterback, I mean, he gonna bust up the running backs. I got to go DJ reader experience and he's not known for that. The lions are going to surprise us in some areas DJ readers going to be second. I mean, even if he has four sacks, he might still be second man, that would really be better than the lions. If that were to happen. Okay. All right. I'm not mad at it, man. I would go Marcus Davenport man and I know I always harp on his health markets. If you listen to the show, I promise is nothing personal man. But if he's on the field, to me, he's a better version of what James Houston brings to the table. And while I do like James Houston also, you know, being on past rush downs, I just feel like if Marcus Davenport is healthy, he will be getting around that edge whenever eight and can't or eight and drives the quarterback to that side. I expect Marcus Davenport to clean up. So I would say Marcus Davenport, if he stays healthy, I would agree with that KG. I also agree with you flannel. It was a tough decision. It was between the two, but you both took them. So doesn't matter. So I'm a go, I'm a go Marcus Davenport for a reason because it's new information. I think it's because our medical staff has proven that what they can do with guys who will have injury histories and not necessarily being on the field consistency consistently that they are able to take those guys and elevate their, elevate them so they're not as big of health risks as they were in the past. So I think that our medical staff will get Marcus Davenport ready to play more games than he is allotted. And I think that will breed for more sacks and him to be second on this team. Yeah, you did a hell of a job with James Houston, but yeah, I regress. Hey, I'm going to go off the board here. I want to say that's what my gut says. That's what my brain says, but I'm going to be different and I'm going to go Josh Pascal. I think Josh Pascal can have a resurgence under Torel Williams. He is a guy that Torel Williams likes to use. You can see body type like Daniko Autry, how you move him around and do a lot of different things. We know Aaron Glenn likes to use him in different situations. He is a guy who could play in any situation because you can play inside. He can play outside. You can move him around. Give me Josh Pascal off the board, but I do, I do think it'll be illegal. And I don't care. People was foot cancer. I don't care. Yeah. No, but honestly, I at one, I forgot what show it was because they sometimes all blend together, but we did a segment. It was either on this show or wake up Woodward where I predicted a breakout season from Josh Pascal. So if it happens, I will have been proven right. We'll just, we'll have to see because that hasn't really been a huge part of his game, at least with the lion so far, but he has had some injury issues. Hopefully he is all healthy and hey, if he, if that actually happens because that would probably mean Aleem still gets some and Houston and Davenport, at least one of them gets some. That would be, they would have one of the better defensive lines in all of football. Once again, I'm going to become Donald Trump. I don't know what he said and he don't know what he just said. Thank you. All right, then. Next question of the lions and nickel package. Will Ali McNeil get an extension with the Detroit Lions? You trade out off. What was that? Will he still get an extension with the Detroit Lions? Yes. I think he will play. Here's what I think will happen. I think Ali McNeil will prove to be so valuable that they do give him a bag. Maybe not, not like a, like a Christian Wilkins type bag, but something that is a little lesser than that, but substantial. I think the person that will end up walking at the end of the season is Iffi Melofamu. And I'm not saying that if he's not good, I'm just saying the decision that is going to have to be made is keep one or the other. And you probably lose Derek Barnes as well, but Ali McNeil will prove to be so valuable with his interior pressure that the lot that they'll have no choice but to, but to, but to keep him, but to give him something that maybe they don't even necessarily want to give him. So I'm going to go with Ali McNeil. Yes, he will. With Ali McNeil, I'm going to look beyond the play on the field. His play on the field is going to be spectacular, but the other thing that he brings is he is a young professional. And what I mean by professional, he acts professional. He brings a good presence to that dressing room. He has smart things and constructed things to say to his fellow lineman. Liners don't want to lose that. You've already got Dan Campbell, you know, you know, melting paint. You got guys who are really loud. You need a steady guy at some point and that's what McNeil is. So yes, he would be extended because they're going to feel they need him just for his play and also for his professionalism. I really hope they can keep a lame man. I think if they do, it's going to have to be a team friendly deal because after this season, I think your priority is to lock up Aiden Hutchison. He's going to command a lot of money. They want to take care of him. So I mean, if he goes out, contract, you're in balls out, I'm sure that they will want to keep him. I just don't know if the numbers work out that way. But like I said, if he does, I think it'll have to be a team friendly deal. Yes. No. No. You said no? No. Okay. He might be too expensive. It won't be from his play. It just be too expensive. All right. No, something something has to give here. We did. Do we have not enough money to go around? We still got to pay hugs. Can't keep air. Yeah. Something has to give here. And if you're talking about stuff that has to give a Lee McNeil, especially after signing DJ Reader, has to be the first one to be considered to not go to go. And I think that it's enough. He will not be resigned. Fair enough. I think it's a yes. I think it is a yes because I think you can make the money work with how young your secondary is with guys like Brian Branch, Kirby Joseph, Ennis Rakeshaw, and Terry on Arnold, all being on rookie deals, you brought in a guy like Vahki to throw back there to kind of be a replacement for Ify Melafano. I agree with flannel. I think guys you move on from are more Derek Barnes see. Ify Melafano, even a Carlton Davis, and you make sure you keep a Lee McNeil, I wouldn't be shocked at all. If all three of them aren't on the team in 2025, and that's okay, by the way, I just I think that a Lee will prove to be more valuable than an iffy and that they'll have enough in the cornerback position where they don't have to resign Carlton Davis to a long deal. But we shall see it's it's a good problem to have and a guy like Taylor Ducker could take a team friendly. Fair enough. Yeah. But yeah, I don't want to barge in on the nickel packets, but I'm going to throw in who definitely on this defense will be gone after next season of the season. A follow up. Yeah, probably if he he might be a man. Yeah, I think okay, it took him a while to even get to the play that he had last year, which was great. But yeah, and then you just got to look at how they structured the lean deal. It was I mean, not the lean deal, the DJ reader deal, it was a two year deal and they did draft Mackay Wingo as a backup. So I just I don't know that maybe signaling that they're trying to prepare for maybe losing the way. No. And we'll we'll see. Like I said, it's a good problem to have because when you're when you're re when you're re signing guys, like I'm in Ron penne soul to those expensive deals, which they 100% deserve, you're going to do that for aid in Hutchinson as well. Some people are not going to be able to join the journey all along, but we also know that Brad Holmes, we trust him more than damn near any other GM in the NFL that we could possibly have to replenish the talent with cheap rookie contract. Yeah, but that's not going to last forever. He's going to have to start shoving luggage off board fair. He's going to have to start throwing it in the water at some point. That's where he's going to be really criticized. But how does he handle that? Is he still bringing in younger players to replace those guys that that's why he's going to have to let go? That's he could be another. Yeah, I know that's the tough part when you reach the pinnacle. Yeah. And like I think me and spending agreed on, it's going to be if he Carlton Davis or Derek Barnes, at least in my opinion, those are going to be the ones that aren't going to be able to join the journey beyond this season. But I guess that I can't wait to see how how it plays out. And I think it will have meant that a Lee McNeil proves to be one of the better defensive tackles in all of the NFC. Do you know why you're mentioning all these cornerbacks that could be gone? Why is that? Because of Terry and Arnold, who's going to be the number one corner. Yeah. The Detroit line. That's why. That's fair. That's fair. 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This idea and if you guys call me a hater for this, you're saying that you're saying then if you're going over that Jamison Williams is going to have 10 touchdowns this year, 10. That's lofty. Sam's a hater. I'm not a hater. Here's what I made it so so easy to love. Here's what I think. I think that the one thing that will prevent Jamison Williams from getting those 10 touchdowns is that I don't think the Lions will use him inside the 10 yard line enough. I know that his last touchdown on the NFC Championship game was a red zone touchdown. I think it was like five to seven yards or something like that. But over the course of his career. It's been more on explosive type plays and you don't get those every single game. My prediction for Jamison Williams this season is between 800 and 1100 yards from scrimmage and seven touchdowns. I think when you get to the red zone, when you get to inside the 10, you're going to be utilizing David Montgomery more. You're going to be utilizing La Porta. You're going to be utilizing Saint Brown. And I think you're going to be utilizing Gibbs more from that, from that area of the field as well. And that reason, and it's not hate whatsoever, Jamison Williams will have under nine and a half touchdowns. Are we talking about passing and yes, total, total, I'm a hater too, hater under the NFL is not as explosive as it used to be for Jamison Williams to get 10 touchdowns or more. He's going to have to have 70 yard catches, 80 yard catches, 50 yard catches. That's not going to happen a lot. A lot of times the lines are going to march down the field. They're going to run the football. They're going to do intermediate stuff, the Saint Brown and Jamison. Here's the word we keep saying potential, potential, potential. He's got potential. Well, we've got to see it and it's not going to happen all of a sudden in one season. He's going to have some explosive plays. The 10 touchdowns is a lot that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a crap ton and, and for the record, I don't see, I don't see a ton of hate in the chat, fortunately, because 10, I mean, 10 touchdowns is that's really lofty, especially considering, I mean, last season, he had three and 27 touches, which is one for every nine, which is, which is very, very good. He had a couple more in the playoffs, but when you look at the history of his touchdowns, there's that, the one in his rookie year against Minnesota, that was over 40 yards. The one that was over 40 yards against the Bucks, that 30 yard one or 20 some yard one against the Bears, you've got that run against the Saints, which I guess technically was the red zone. And then that end around against the 49ers, it was mainly off of explosive plays. And you've got more, you've got too many players on this team that are more well-equipped to be dominant red zone, red zone threats than to use Jameson Williams often in the red zone. So he will fit, he will have a good season. He will not have 10 touchdowns. Yeah. Well, we got to remember the lines have so many weapons. I mean, at some point, they're going to be the 25 yard line. You really going to go to Jamo? No, you're going to go to Armand, you're going to go to Montgomery. You're not going to look for that big chunk play. You're going to look for just, let's finish this drive. And I think there'll be more conservative that way. Yeah, 10 is a crap load, but give me the over. I'm taking the over on this and look, man, there is no doubt in my mind that if Jameson Williams isn't like the third option in this offense and they're actually going to target him and utilize him more, there's no doubt in my mind that he can reach that number. I don't think it's crazy. I think you're wrong, Sam, and the fact that they won't use him in the red zone. I think that if you're smart, if you're Ben Johnson, you're going to find any type of way to, to use this guy, whether it's jet sweeps, whether it's slants. It doesn't matter what it is, man, you, what a guy with speed like that game changing speed, you find ways to get the ball in his hands, get him in the open field and let him work, man. He can explode for 10 touchdowns. Maybe the yardage won't be there, but the touchdowns, I can absolutely see that. I'm with the CAG. I'm going over. Yeah. Look at it. Josh Reynolds had five tough times last year. Josh Reynolds is not the explosive player. The majority of those came in the red zone and came on short hitters. James and Williams is going to take over that Josh Reynolds role. So he's going to be getting those looks as well as the explosive plays as we expect to see more of throughout the year. No, I got a question for the little Giddy boys over here in the red zone. You say, oh, they're going to go to him in the red zone and see a post up player. Can he post up? I know speed is important. A lot of times in the red zone, you need someone to post up in the corner. Is he, is he capable of that? I don't know if he's post up. I don't know. The way Ben Johnson runs his offense, where he has a bunch of people going this way and then one person coming across the other way. I think we could see Jmo do a lot of that throughout the year. We saw him do some of that in the game against the 49ers in the NFC championship game where he had his touchdown in the red zone. Yeah. And I use it as an example. If you want a template for how they could potentially use him in the red zone, that's one. And it was, it was a nice catch by him. It wasn't an easy one. So he's shown that he's capable of doing it in a very, very small sample size. I just, as I said before, when I say that James and Williams will not get 10 touchdowns this season. Hey, hey, that's something. That he's going to hit the under of nine and a half. That's okay because I predict. I personally predict that I'm in Raleigh get over 10 and one of probably not both, but one of David Montgomery and Jamir Gibbs will get 10 and Sam LaPorter will be approaching it, approaching it as well. That's how many buttons they have. Beauty boys will Sam LaPorter get over 10 touchdowns? Yes. No, I think he'll have less this year. The yardage will be there, but I think he'll have maybe a touchdown or two less. Then Mo millionaire, he'll be right around there and so you, Saint Brown's going to have more than 10. Yes or no? Yes. So LaPorter is going to have more than 10. Yes. 10 or more. And then J. Mo's going to have more than 10. I think J. Mo will get two or three on the ground. Yes. Okay. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah. Everybody's going to have 10 touchdowns. I got 10 TPs. You got 10 TPs. Pass them around. I can see Jared golf throwing around 35 touchdowns. Two of the lines going to score 600 points this year. That's 35 touchdowns for Jared golf. I don't think that's too crazy. They could be number one. If J. Mo explodes, they could be a number one offense. Yeah. And we hope it happens. And I hope that I have to proudly wear my Jameson Williams jersey at some point this season that I will still get if he has over a thousand receiving yards, but a question number five of the lines. Nickel package. Question number five of the lines, Nickel package. Will this team have three plus first team all pro? Oh. Yes. Yes. I believe so. And Amun Ra will repeat. I think Frank Ragnow could get it. I think that gives you three. And then I think that, wait, I don't actually break, I don't break on a branch, though. Why was because I don't think Frank Ragnow actually was first team last year. I think he was second. He was second. He was second too. Well, there we go. Jason Kelsey's retirement gives gives an opening and he should have been first last year by the way, but I think those three will get it. And I think one of eight in Hutchinson or Brian branch will get it. I think Brian branch is actually more likely to get first team all pro if he plays the majority of his snaps as the slot corner. I think he would get, he would slot in as an all pro over a guy like Tehran Johnson, somebody like that. And then he'd be fighting with a guy like Trent McDuffie, but Aiden Hutchinson, the only thing that's going to hold him back is the fact that there are clearly five edge-wishers right now in the NFL who are better than him. Do I think Aiden will get into that tier this year? I think he's got a shot. It's just, it's such a loaded position. But to answer the question, yes, I believe that the Lions will get, will get four first team all pro. Dude, if you think they're going to get two on defense, you must think they don't get eight first team all pros or something like that. But you know, I don't think Hutchinson will. That's a very competitive position. But Brian branch and let me say it. Hang on. Terry on there. No. So he would be Terry on gardener. Sauce. Sauce Arnold. Sauce Arnold. Yeah. That's actually has a nice ring to it. I think they will. I don't think I'm around St. Brown's going to be first team all pro. I think that, unfortunately, you know, there were some injuries last year with guys. I think different guys step up, you know, CD lamb, you got, you got Jamar Chase, you got obviously Justin Jefferson, I think he's going to take his rightful place as a first team all pro. Unfortunately, I think I'm in Ross and Brian will be second team all pro next year. But I look at Frank Ragnow, pen a stool and Aidan Hutchinson. Okay. Because I think Aidan Hutchinson is going to have a big year. I think he'll be a first team all pro to go with pen a stool and frankly. That is. And Sam Laporta. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Have you guys seen receiver? Yes. Yes. That's really good. He's going to be a first team all pro. Yeah. St. Brown, as I said, he's a sociopath, but I mean that in the best way possible. Yes. There is no life in those eyes. He had no life in his eyes when he was eight years old. If he wasn't, if he wasn't a wide receiver, he'd be a murderer. But that's okay. That's what we need. That's what we need. Hey, but that's our murderer, so it's okay. I'm not trying to just besmirch your character on when Ross St. Brown. You have an outlet, which means you're not going to be a murderer, but no, you actually spending brought up a phenomenal point about wide receivers just in Jefferson played ten games last season. If he plays a full season, he will be first of all pro. He had a thousand yards in ten games. Yeah. He's. And I do think even if, man, I'm trying to think who would have been left off of that team, it might have been Amunra. He's probably been Amunra. Yeah. So spending knows some one or two things about receivers, you know, considering he was on the Netflix documentary receiver. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. But it's true. It seems like there's, there's not the belief in Amun, Ross St. I think Brown is here. I think Amunra out St. Brown is going to be a fantastic receiver. I think he's going to do, again, what he did last year, close to 1500 yards and stuff, but like. Yeah, but he has to be that guy for Dallas, Justin Jefferson is that guy. I think those are your two first team up, but he's a slot receiver and the NFL is telling us he doesn't get enough touchdowns. So I could definitely see him being left off the list and him getting even more pissed off the following year about being, you know, left off the all-pro V specs. And that could happen. And when I was giving my original take, I didn't even really think about Sam LaPorter because I think that Travis Kelsey's days as being a first team all-pro tight end over. He wasn't last year, but I, but like, I don't think he's going to have to. I think he's going to be fighting. I'm talking about Sam LaPorter with like Mark Andrews and George Kittle. I could see him having a better season than a both of them, at least when it comes to accounting numbers. I don't want to say this because I don't want him to hear me and beat me up, but kind of hope I'm not saying Brown's not a first team. That's fair. Because then when it gets to the playoffs and he was disrespected like that and he goes out there and puts up 150 yards on every single team they play in the playoffs because he's like, all right, you're not going to make me first team all-pro. He's the type of dude that would make that happen because of that. So you might just get the 10 touchdowns in the playoffs. Yeah. Literally. You get the regular Z. I feel like it would be better for the Lions if he wasn't because he would be so fucking motivated in the playoffs. No. And that's fair. And the best part is is that I'm in Ross St. Brown. We could get the best of every world. I'm in Ross St. Brown could have the same numbers that he put up last season, but you look at this year, Justin Jefferson plays a whole year, AJ Brown maybe takes his spot. Who knows? But yeah, he would be coming with a vengeance because I'm in Ross St. Brown believes he's better than all of those guys. He does. He 100% does not play him for it. I don't need it. Your first team all-pro that early in your career, what is anybody going to say to you? There's only there's only two receivers in the NFL. I truthfully take over. I'm in Ross St. Brown and we know who those are and that is Tyree kill and Justin Jefferson. Yeah, I might take chase, but you know, I don't want to play this game because I'm happy that we have. 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It's a big package Friday and we've got a Pistons one coming right up. Ah, I got a Terry Foster nickel package. Okay. You go Pistons if you want. I got one. Oh, you have a nickel package. I have a nickel package. You know what? We will do Pistons and then yours. All right. Does that sound good? But before we get to that, I got to shut up the guys behind the glass and Justin. We got Justin in the match here. We've got KG in the audio booth showing James, AKA power neck, the rope so that he can learn as many things as he can and be versatile, be that Swiss Army knife that we all kind of have to be here and we got Spenmo Rex in the TD booth who given the fact that he's TD on one show in town on another is the very definition of a Swiss Army knife. But without further ado, let's get to question number one of the Pistons. Oh, fast break. All right. So one of the Pistons fast break will keg Cunningham be an all star this season? Yes. I think that I think that his numbers, I think his efficiency will be much better. I think he'll average maybe a couple more assists. My numbers prediction for this season is 24 points a game, five rebounds, nine assists on shooting splits of like 47, 37, 90. I like it. Seriously. He has. He was an 87% free throw shooter last year. So that's not crazy. And I think the Pistons will obviously win more games. He will give the veteran players those veteran three point shooters, a lot of open looks, which will make his assist total go up. Give me Kate Cunningham as an all star for him, the average 24 points a game means that the Pistons are going to have to have 40 overtime games. That's not happening. He was 22 last year and still, okay, that's two more. That's a big, that's a big leap. I know. I think Kate Cunningham and the Detroit Pistons nationally, they, they don't really respect this organization. That's true. He doesn't, he doesn't get the respect that he does. Didn't win rookie of the year. There's a lot of things. I'm going to say no, he will not be an all star this year. The pecking order is not there. Go ahead, Spenny. Spenny. Oh, yeah. I think he will be an all star and I agree with flannel on the splits. I think he's going to be close to averaging double digit assist this year with guys like Tobias Harris, Malik Beasley, Fantacchio, players that can actually hit open jump shots on the outside unlike the bombs he was playing with last year. Yeah. I think that he is, I could see 24 if he gets a little bit more calls. That's the thing. I could see him average in 24 points a game if he's getting the whistle from the refs. That is a big if, but they need to give it to him eventually. I can see Kate Cunningham being all star this year, Justin. You already know my answer. Yeah, I do. You say no, because you say no, no, no, no, I say no. Because there are so many good guards in the Eastern Conference. And they all put up better stats and play on better teams than Kate Cunningham. We could talk about the Jalen Brunson's, Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown both made it as a guard last year. We can talk about, you don't like it, but Trey young, he has better stats. We young's a bum. I don't disagree, but he's a bum, but he's considered an all star, 100%. We got Donovan Mitchell. We got, I don't know, the list goes on. I'm not just a key name and name. So there's, there's, there's at least six guards and that's as many guards as there are spots in the all star game that are better than Kate. And you could argue that there are eight or nine better guards in the Eastern Conference than Kate Cunningham. I think by the all star break of this season, you'll be able to say definitively that Kate Cunningham is better than both Trey young and this version of Dame Lillard. Those are two that I think I think so too. I think the guards that you look to be ahead of Kate Cunningham in the East are Jalen Bronson, Tyrese Maxie, Jalen Brown, if you consider him a guard. Pre all star break, Halliburton, Halliburton, probably, I think, I think Kate can be better than Hallibur. I think he is better than Halliburton. I just think Halliburton is in a more favorable system. But that's about it, honestly. Yeah. And I just, and maybe I'm a bit of a Kate Slappy, which I 100% am. I just, I think he will, compared to what he was, he went through last season, this will be like basketball heaven to him. Because I think people are clouded by the fact that a lot of people like some of the Troy Weaver draft picks that they don't realize just how bad the situation was last year. It was, there's not a player in the history of the NBA except maybe like prime prime LeBron that could have done anything with this team and maybe prime Michael Jordan. Yeah. Like those are the names we're talking about. Because it was just a terrible, terrible, terrible situation. But a question number two. Next question. Will beef stew finish the year as a piston? I hope so. And as I've said before, I'm a reformed beef stew hater. But last season, and I know he's got injury issues and I know he's under one of the bigger contracts on the team right now, but he did the one thing that I needed him to do. It was develop a three point shot and he did it. And his defense, he was one of the better defensive players on the team last year, which isn't saying a whole lot, but no, I get it. I 100% get it. Bro, bro, yeah, the slick spot underneath the basket was a better defender than anybody on this team. I mean, really, no, but, and I get it, they're going to be better defensively and they got Paul Reed. I understand that. But I just, I want beef stew on this team. I just, I want more shooters. I want people, beef stews only crime is that he wasn't six, 10 or six, 11, which may end up costing them. But I personally want him on this team at the end of the season. And I used to hate him. I used to want him. I used to think he was shot the ball pretty well last year. He did. Only thing I like about him. He's going to kick the Brown James's ass. That is true. So yeah, that part, but I'm going to say no. Okay. They're going to move on because I think Trajan landing wants to redevelop this team. Once again, nobody's untouchable and beef stew is he's Jason Maxill with a three point shot. Yeah, you can do without that. You don't need that. I think he's better to, he's a little bit of a better Jason Maxill with noise better with a three point shot. Yeah. I, this is a little tease to the later question in this. But I think with the kind of, you know, a surgeons of Bobby Clinton, that is going to make it easier to pass and to move on from Isaiah Stewart because you've got guys like Fontecchio, like Tobias Harris and like Clinton who are going to be, you know, those forward rotational pieces and you add Paul Reed, you got a Ron Holland and I saw Thompson who could both play the four. So Isaiah Stewart is one of your most valuable pieces on this team. I think they trade him to a contender at the deadline. Yeah. And before we go to the next question, see Gerald. What did prime LeBron ever do to raise up a bad team besides take his talent to a different level? That was more ready. Come on, man. Look at that. TV took to the finals in 2007. Like, come on. Like, don't, don't hate. Don't hate. Don't hate. Appreciate it. 100%. But a question number three. Question number three. I set this way too low at first when I first did the over under on this, but it makes it I was like, I can't put it that low over under a Sartomson three point percentage next year. I'm just going to say what I originally had 26 and a half. Oh, God, both numbers that you have are so under he will, you know, a Sartomson will do this year and it will be a monumental improvement because he was so bad last year. I think a Sartomson will shoot 26% from three on 1.7 attempts per game. I think at the beginning of the year, he's going to be letting it fly a little bit more, but you're not going to see as much of improvement as you would like. So he'll get less minutes in JB Bickerstaff and others will encourage him to shoot less at least for now. He was so bad last season that even a 26% is a monumental improvement. So I will go under. Well, they got a new shooting coach, right? Yes, they do. And he's supposed to be really good. Yep. I'm still going to go under. You can either do it or you can't. And as our as Sartos, he's a his calling card is defense defense and to be strong and stuff, but it's fires three point shooting. He's going to probably miss his first five shots and they'll tell him, don't take that shot anymore. So this percentage would be at zero in the year, not going that low, but maybe the killing in Hayes 10% I'm going to go over. Give me the over. It's got to be more than 20. Like I understand that's almost a 10% jump, but when you're an 18% three point shooter, it's got to be a big jump like that. I think Fred Vincent will help. I don't think he's going to be taking as many shots. He is definitely going to be even more open with the amount of floor spacing this team has now. Give me, give me the over. I don't think it'll be a lot over, but I can see him around 27%. And that would be a big leap. Yes. Well, and because he was so bad last year, but a question for question for fourth question of the Pistons fast break, Cade over under 73 and a half games played over. And I know that sounds a little sounds optimistic, but as I've always said about Cade Cunningham, he had really one nagging injury that cost him damn near a whole season, but it's fixed. And last season, he would have been close to that number if it was if the team was better. I think he would have played at least like 66 to 70 games this season, especially because I think they're going to be playing more meaningful games and Cade Cunningham. I don't think is an injury prone guy and they'll have more help. Hopefully he gets to play a few less minutes. Give me Cade Cunningham with the over because 74 games, that still accounts for you missing eight. That still accounts for you taking a few days off that accounts for maybe a nagging injury or two. So I think Cade Cunningham will play exactly 74 games this season. It's easy to hold a guy out when you have meaningless games. And I'm convinced they they didn't want to play. Okay, Kate could have played sometimes, but it's like, what's the point? Yep. And I think the Pistons look long term to try to keep this guy healthy. So he didn't play that many games. Now this year, the quest for 32 might be real. So they're probably playing more and I'm sorry, I'm an asshole sometime. No, no, no, no, no, it's fair. These are your heroes I'm talking about the quest for 32 is going to go ahead, Spidey. Uh, yeah, I think yes, over it's going to be close though, because I don't know if the quest for 32 is going to be a real thing. And I do think they probably shut K down for the last 10 games of the year or something like that when it's just, all right, we got to 32, but now it's not going to happen. We're not worried about trying to make a playoff. So you said over. I am saying over. Yeah. Okay. But they're going to shut them down for 10 games. Maybe not 10. Maybe not. All right. Do you know the 82 minus 10 is 72. It's true. That's true. Maybe okay, maybe not 10 games, but I think that at the end of the year, they'll rest him. We'll say the last five games of the year. Okay. And that's, and that could be fair. And are we going to get t-shirts with 32s on a little basketball coming out? We should. Honestly, we should talk to the merch guys about that. Uh, no, no merch. Don't. Don't do that. That's a little, we don't want to do that, but that's a funny slogan that you came up with quest for 32. But I'm curious to see Spidey's answer to this and I'll, and I'll go to him last question number five. Question number five, will Bobby Clinton get real minutes for the Detroit Pistons? All right. So Bobby Clinton, he's somebody who we obviously saw what, what, what set of skills that he brought to the table in summer league. He could shoot. I mean, he could shoot. He was shooting the lights out for a lot of the time. He was a guy that on a lot of people's draft boards was a first rounder. You could say that he was a steal, like he was way under drafted according to some. It's tough because all of a sudden the Pistons have a pretty deep roster in terms of promising players and veterans and, and players that Troy Weaver drafted that are at least competent NBA players or you think when I asked this question to, to, to a Koolay the other day, my measuring stick was will Bobby Clinton play 50 or more games and in those 50 or more games average 10 minutes per game. He wasn't so sure. I am going to say... We all have somewhere we're trying to get to. As the largest energy producer in Colorado, Chevron is working to responsibly meet rising energy demand. So everyone can get to where they want to be. You've arrived. That's Energy in Progress. Visit chevron.com/tankless. I'm Victoria Cash. Thanks for calling the Lucky Land Hotline. If you feel like you do the same thing every day, press 1. 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Once again, I don't know what he said and he doesn't know what he just said, but my bunion is hurting. When the bunion is hurting, it means something weird is going to happen. Respect the bunion. I have this weird feeling about Bobby Clinton is going to be this, I'm not going to say generational talent, but he's going to be a surprise. I'm going to say, hey, this guy is playing and this guy is contributing. I think he's going to be a good pro, I agree with you. They did get a steal and the new regime is putting together a decent team. I think Clinton is going to play a big role, so I'm going to say yes. Yes, I'm going to say yes and I agree it's definitely going to be based on his play, but it's also going to be based on this team selling at the deadline. I think you see guys like Isaiah Stewart, Paul Reed, Tim Hardaway Jr., Malik Beasley, maybe all of them get moved at the deadline, definitely three of them, and that opens it up a little bit more for guys like Bobby Clinton and Fatakio to get more and more minutes throughout the team. Give me Bobby Clinton as a realistic rotational piece. You know what? And that's, I didn't even think of the angle of the trade deadline sell-offs because you might see that happen, especially if the Pistons, which I don't think, I think we all agree that they're not going to be in the playoffs if they're so far out of it that what do you think they're in the playoffs? I think they will make the play and tournament this year. Wow. Okay, okay, James. I'm saying it here. I'm saying they will make the play and tournament book it right now. I'm telling you, they will make the play and tournament. Oh man, there's Mr. Nick. No, no, no. And this is why I say this. You have, I think Bobby Clinton as you guys said, I think will be a steal because shooting pays and also with the new regime, new guys get new opportunities. It's the best time for second round picks, undrafted free agents to get an opportunity because a new regime doesn't have any ties to the current players because the current players aren't their current draft picks. So therefore, I think Bobby Klemens in the best case scenario in terms of he shoots the ball like he has been in summerly, I definitely think he'll find himself in the rotation. When we talk about Kate Cunningham, again, I don't think he'll get shut down because again, I think the Detroit Pistons are going to be playing for a play in spot towards the end of this year. Wow. Yeah. Here's what I say. When men spin the sprawled out in that crack house with the needle in the arm, we got a third brother coming in with us. Thank you. Welcome to the crowd. Hey, come on me. 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Shout out to my girl, Alyssa, a lot of you know, Alyssa, you talk about her a lot when she when she's in frame with the masking. But she got me some garlic Parmesan waffle fries from side car. They're really good, like insanely good. Shout out Alyssa and she's a being very generous to you, Mr. Mr. Spenmo racks. I understand. No, I can smell his breath through the sound booth. I don't. I don't. And they do smell really good though, and I hope that you're enjoying them. But Terry Foster, you came up with a nickel package for us. I do have a nickel package. Go right ahead. All right. ESPN came out with his top 25 athletes in this century. Yeah. They had LeBron James over Tom Brady. Is that egregious or right on? I'm going to say right on. Of course you are. No, no, no, that's that's that's all well and good. LeBron James is going to retire with pretty much every record you could ever have. And he's one for championships, one for finals MVPs. I understand that Tom Brady is well accomplished as well. But I just think I think for what LeBron's done for the game of basketball, I think he's done more for his championship teams than Tom Brady has. Give me LeBron James. Obviously they should both be ranked high, but I think it's it's deserved that LeBron James is over Tom Brady. I'm not going to do it. I can't say. I think Tom Brady is the greatest football player of all time. LeBron James, you could say the same thing, but it's arguable with Michael Jordan. I have a special love in my heart for Tom Brady that I know flanneled those for LeBron. So I'm going to stick with Tom Brady as the goat. I'm with you there, Spenny. Tom Brady, he has three MVPs, five championships. I mean, so. Oh, my bad. Seven championships. If I'm not wrong, it's harder to win in the NFL than it is in the NBA and he has more championships in the NFL than LeBron does in the NBA. And that's the only little tidbit I got about that. Well, but it must be nice for Tom Brady to win two Super Bowls while, well, leading his team to 13 offensive points and two of them, something that no other quarterbacks ever done. But that's all well and good. Hey, hey, I'd also say too is you look at LeBron James, you look at what is who are his coaches? Right? Can you even name his coaches? For everybody who calls him a coach killer. For everybody who says that. Frank Vogel must have won a championship with those incredibly talented Phoenix Suns teams with Booker, Beale, and Kevin Durant. Oh, he didn't. Tyrone Lew must have won some championships with those Clippers teams. I know they had some injuries. No, he didn't. Eric Spolster and that Heat culture, the greatest coach who ever lived a combination of Phil Jackson and Greg Popovich, the way that they talk about him, have the Heat won any championships since LeBron James left. No, they haven't. So you know who's not going to win a championship? Who JJ Reddy? Probably not. You know who hasn't won a championship either? Who? Bill Belichick. And you know what Tom Brady did after he left Bill Belichick? Go win one one in Tampa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, you can't say that. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's be honest, those first two Super Bowls, and I'm going to agree with three Super Bowls, three Super Bowls, but those first three Super Bowls were not a Tom Brady-led team. Especially those first two when he's playing against the Rams and he's playing against the Panthers. And the defensive side of the ball, tie law as well, shout out. But again, that wasn't Tom Brady leading the way. And do you hear what he said in this town? Those first three Super Bowls, three, weren't really his. Right, but we talking about three Super Bowls. I hear you. I'm just saying that. Three more than we've seen in this town. Two more than we've seen in this town because they had a Super Bowl of two Super Bowls here. And you want to make the argument about his defense. How would you make the argument about Kyrie Irving taking it on his back in that game seven and willing them offensively? Oh, here comes flannel though, but he will them offensively in that they went minutes without a bucket. If Kyrie didn't hit that step back above Steph Curry, then there would have been a warrior that hit a shot in the next time down the floor. And that completely swung the momentum completely in that game seven. The block? The block? Did you? I would have made a layup if it wasn't for LeBron James. Oh, by the way, Korean Jesus, because I love it when people say this. I love it. So I'm going to educate you with some facts with the Cleveland Cavaliers down three to one. LeBron and Kyrie both both had 41. They had a phenomenal tandem game. But in game six, with Draymond Greenback, people saying LeBron James could never get 41 when Draymond Green is back. LeBron James had an even better game. He had 41 again, where Kyrie had like 23 in game seven of that fourth quarter. LeBron James scored or assisted on 13 of the 18 points and had the greatest defensive play in NBA history with the block second best given the given the stakes. It was better than Tayshaun's or Reggie Miller and sealed the game with the game winning free throw. Sealed the game with a free throw. He sealed the game with the game winning for you. That is a phenomenal value of free throw. You don't value a free point a free throw that I would take that same free throw hit it. I would have trusted Kyrie Green to take that same free throw and hit it. Okay. Fine. But he didn't shoot the free throw. LeBron shot the free throw and he actually sealed the game. If he doesn't make free throw number two of that, then the Golden State Warriors have a chance to actually tie it. So you just a LeBron hater, man. Like I'm not even a LeBron lover. Like I still think Jordan's the best, but like if you put LeBron in number two, the second greatest player of all time, you just hating like there's nothing to say. The guy's resume speaks for itself. I mean, he's one at three different franchises and NBA title. I win a hater and I respect his greatness. But I do think that Jordan's better and boo-hoo on you guys for saying that I can't have that opinion. You can't guys. Let me just say. You can't. No, no, I never said that. Let me just say this. Powerneck just did. No, I just said I would take Jordan, but I said if you put LeBron other than number two, you slam any further down. You're just straight-hating. Powerneck is a hundred percent right. If you want to say that Jordan is better than LeBron, I disagree, but I'm not going to argue with you too much. To me, it's to me, it's LeBron, Jordan, and if you want to say Jordan, LeBron, you can flip-flop them. Space bar, space bar, space bar, and then you start with guys like Kareem and like Bird and Magic and Duncan and Hakim and the likes of those. Kobe, to me, is like 11 or 12, but that's another discussion for another day. 12. That's crazy. Wow. That's crazy. You're going to play. It's a little strong. I will say this. In defense, I will say this. You can make an argument that Tim Duncan was the better player in his generation. That's fair. He was. He was. I put 11. I put in Magic, Bird, Hakim, and maybe Robinson over Kobe. Missed more shots than anybody in NBA history. Yeah. I'm putting Kareem, Magic, Larry Bird, Tim Duncan over Kobe. Or Bill Russell too? Yeah. Bill Russell. Well, Chamberlain too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bill Russell was in the storm. I don't know if you can say. I don't know if you can count Bill Russell. He's playing against five, six plumbers. Still playing against? I do question two. Yes. A guy that wears sunglasses inside, is he super cool or a super dick? He's either completely fucked up that he has to wear them or he's a dick. He's more than the other. Shout out to Joel. Never seen that man not wearing sunglasses. Shout out. No offense, KG. That's one answer. Maybe you super go. KG. As one talking about you, give you the rest of these garlic palm waffle fries as red saliation. No. I ain't a shit. I can't even eat anymore, though, so those were so good. And just to piggyback off the last question, really quick, just really, really quick, a nay we forgot. No, it will be. It was a better cut to break that. No, it was Jeff Olson. Shaq is also better than Kobe. Yes, he is. I think Shaq is better than Kobe too. He means Shaq who played a third of his career fat. That's fine. But during that three-peat, that was Shaq's team. Kobe was never a better player than Shaq when they were on Shaq team. Does anyone remember the Pacer series in 2001? I think I remember Shaq. Wait, wait, does anyone remember that Pacer series where Kobe had that one really good overtime, but he averaged 15 points per game in that series and Shaq averaged 38 and 17. Come on, Powerneck. Come on, Powerneck. That's fast. That's the question of one finals MVP. All I'm saying is that, again, when they both left each other, I remember Kobe winning two finals going to three and Shaq going and showing up to one more finals, just saying. And hold on, I'm, because I'm adding on to his point and then you can rebuttal. Because they were two separate states of their career. Kobe was still a young star. Shaq had been established for years at that point. That has to matter. But it also matters that Kobe benefited heavily from being drafted into a situation in which he got to play with prime Shaq and which he got to play with the most dominant force between 2000 and 2002 in the history of the NBA. That's the first team all pro during those years. Yeah, you're right. He was a first team all pro. Let's not act like Kobe, but still not better than Shaq Shaq. Shaq needed Kobe on that Lager's team to win his first title. Kobe needed Shaq more than Shaq needed Kobe at least at that stage. 100% then why Shaq leaves the magic. What do you mean? And you know why the Lakers didn't win the 2004 championship? Why is that? Because Kobe wouldn't pass to Shaq. We all have somewhere we're trying to get to. As the largest energy producer in Colorado, Chevron is working to responsibly meet rising energy demand. So everyone can get to where they want to be. You've arrived. That's energy in progress. Visit chevron.com/tankless. I'm Victoria Cash. Thanks for calling the Lucky Land Hotline. If you feel like you do the same thing every day, press 1. If you're ready to have some serious fun, for the chance to redeem some serious prizes, press 2. We heard you loud and clear. So go to luckylandslots.com right now and play over 100 social casino style games for free. 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You can argue and scream about everything. Do the worst sunglasses inside, super cool or a super dick. There are a couple examples of when it's cool. KG, right now, and if you guys watch Jersey Shore, I seem to remember Mike the situation was a pulling shicks with sunglasses inside. It's true. I'll just say it. He wasn't a dick. Yeah. Dude, I am a stand for like prime drug addict sitch. Oh, that's what I got. Hey. But KG, you're a dick sometimes. You throw me right under the bus to Neil's teeth, bro. Sometimes you throw me right under the bus to Neil's teeth, bro. Oh, my goodness. You throw me right under the bus to Neil. All right. Tell us a love tap though. Tell us about radio wireless. We'll be back. We got it. We're way over. All right. Question three. All right. Yeah. We'll just double up on the brakes. You're going. You're at Camarica Park or Fordfield. How much must they charge for a beer for you to tap out and say I'm not buying this. It's too much. Honestly, how how far are you willing to go? If I'm already there, I don't think there is a limit of what I wouldn't pay them. Things charge. Twenty five dollars for being you by probably would if I'm already there. I went to I went to Pennsylvania for a UFC fight. It was at the pond where the ducks play and we go there and I was like with my boy mustache. I was like stash. Go grab the seats. I'll grab us a couple beers and I'll meet you down there. He's like, all right. I go up to the fine young lady at the at the beer supply place. I was like, can I have two? She had her titties hanging out. She was going to buy anything. I said, can I have two Miller lights? She said, sure, thirty four dollars. I said, whoa, my God, what? So I paid the thirty four dollars and I go down and I give my friend's stash his beer. I immediately opened my bank account and I see that I have like three hundred dollars that I didn't expect to have. Like I thought I had already spent it, but I had like extra three hundred dollars. So they're like, well, I guess I'm getting drunk tonight. I bought like seven beers. Shout out. Yeah. So if I'm there, I'm going to pay for the beer. Yeah, that's that's how I met. I mean, I guess twenty five per beer would probably be getting too much. I think twenty bucks per one beer, I guess, if it's like a tall beer, that'd probably be where I cut it off and I'm like, I'm saying get twenty dollars out of you for a beer. A beer. A big beer. It's got to be a big beer. Yeah, it's got to be a huge beer. But yeah, I mean, I'm almost spending. I'm down there. I'm at least going to have one beer when I'm down there. Oh, I know, honestly, honestly guys, do you want to know something kind of incredible? I have never ever bought a beer at Camirica Park in my life. What? I'm afraid. I will say this. There have been a couple of times where I went with my wife and she's a little bit. My tired lemonade over here because of the money. My wife has bought me a beer before because she's a little bit more loose with her with her money than I am. But like, I just I can't justify it. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This guy is sort of lying to us. I've never bought a beer over there, but he said, hey, bitch, get me a beer. That's what he's done. Am I right? I was a little bit more tactful about it than that. So you technically have bought a beer there? My, I guess, if me and my spouse have become one, then yes, I guess, technically, I have. I've never used my money. He has separate bank account? We actually do still. Okay. A little technically, maybe? Yeah. He hasn't bought a beer. We do got to go to break. Terry Foster. Nickel package. Next book. Clannel. Tell us about Randy Wise. Absolutely. How would you like to play the University of Michigan golf course with Braylon Edwards? It's the Randy Wise celebrity golf tour. 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That's a college football player right there. I'm already smoked. And you know what? He's going to do like this, like... That's just... Really? It's unfair to have to have power deck in this game. Spinny? Spinny's a tough guy. I've taken a punch from DMACC before and I'm not going to antagonize him. I'd say you just caved my face in. Wait, wait, wait, wait. You got to tell us that story. We were doing the toys, stuff, a studio and we were going out and we were in a Kroger and we were buying a bunch of toys for the kids and DMACC was extremely high. He must have just smoked because I haven't seen him this high in my life and it was me having easy. We were walking around. We were laughing and we were buying stuff and I ended up cross-checking him with a little fake hockey stick and we got into a hockey fight and he grabbed my shirt. Like that and gave me a couple of hockey punches and it was... He knocks somebody's tooth out of that, you have to forget who it was, but he knocks somebody's tooth out. It's probably art. Over here. No, it wasn't an argument. No, it's probably art I'm saying. It was... Oh, it could have been. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it was. All right. Last question. I ain't have two season tickets. You got to go to one. I got season tickets for Eastern Michigan University football, a Wayne State University basketball. You got to go to one the whole season. Where you going? No, yeah. And I almost feel bad for like no disrespect to James aka Powerneck. I'd probably choose Wayne State basketball actually just because that area in Detroit is really nice and I think it would give me and my wife more opportunities for like outings in the city, Ipsy is kind of not the greatest. So... No, no, no, no, Eastern, Eastern, have you been to Roy Squeesburger? Powerneck? Yes. Now that's worth it going up there. And that's fair. It's just like the Wayne State area of Detroit versus Ipsy. I would choose Wayne State basketball. And I would thank you kindly for the season tickets, Speddy. Yeah. Probably Wayne State. I would say. Fellows? Can I fall off a bridge? Take your girl to Wayne State basketball game. I probably go see, but Wayne State isn't like necessarily downtown, like that's where you lose me there. Yeah. It is. It's like, it's 10 minutes from true downtown, like I've driven it from true downtown. So I'm going to go, I'm going to go eastern Michigan shop already. It's a cast corridor, man, that's, that's, that's a spot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. It's, it's not a walking distance to get to downtown. Okay. You go to Carhartt. You go to the Jolly Pump. Oh, Carhartt. Oh. Oh. Do you need some clothes? Third man records. Third man records. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's a good story. I don't know, though. Don't worry about that. I'm sure he probably actually got it. So I got to ask you, James, um, you played football at Eastern Michigan. What would you choose? I don't know if I want to read the glory days going back there kind of live that life and, uh, not going to lie. You, uh, you know, you got to make your own fun and ipsy. So I'd probably say the Wayne State basketball, but mainly for the fact, uh, live the life as a player. Don't really know if I want to go back to Ryan Nierson or Crosby field, I should say, as a fan. No, I, I can definitely appreciate that. I, that, that perspective, especially from somebody who's, I'll live that life, but, uh, yeah, but, you know, I'm a burger guy and side was a side car, side car, yeah. That got some of the best burgers, and the garlic perm waffle fries. Oh, okay. Hey, shout out. Shout out to Alyssa, by the way, and, uh, for helping my friends, not me, but you know, I'm a selfless man, but, uh, before we go to before we, uh, we, uh, end the show, I've got an announcement to make, and then, uh, Justin has one after that. The, uh, winner, the winner of the Detroit Tigers hoodie Detroit Tigers hoodie is me. Ha. I wish it was, but, uh, his name is Mark Heller or Holer, and that is his at, at Mark Heller. Thank you so much for playing and, uh, you have won. You get to be stylish even in the winter time representing your, uh, Tigers gear, hopefully after, uh, Tigers make the playoffs, but, uh, we shall see, we shall see. But, uh, Justin, what are you, thank you for that. Justin, what would you, what would you want to say to the people? So next week on Wednesday, we are doing a college football tournament between the host and if you comment, so Rokies in the chat right now, you will be represented in the tournament by a host. And if that host wins the tournament, you will be given an a hundred dollars, so Rokies gift card. So comments to Rokies right now to be represented in this tournament. That is it. That's it. Okay. I want to get to y'all, y'all going to play college football. So I'm, I'm going to make sure I miss that show. No. So who's, who's a monitoring this? Are you monitoring it? Justin? Like who, what? Are you not? I'm setting everything up. Okay. Are you like monitoring the chat then or are we doing this now? I'm monitoring the chat. Hey, we got Dom Rivera. So Rokies. No, there will be a ton of them. You don't got to read them. Okay. All right. Fair enough. And you know what? That was a really fun, fun Friday show. It was fun. I got two shows with you this week. Hey, Jesus is my man. You know why? Why is that? Because he's played Stratomatic football. Yeah, that's fair. Shout out to that story at the beginning of the show. 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