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Book your spot today at circleosvegus.com. The following podcast is #BoonApproof. It's time for another edition of the Boon Podcast. If I get three pairs of shoes from a collective 14 gifts, I'm good. On today's program, we flip the script on Boonie. With our 141, his second home run in his many nights and his 37th of the year. Today, we stick them under the lights and shove a mic in his face. And I mean, we're flying through these treeline trails going a thousand miles an hour. He is CVS sports radio host and the executive producer of the Boon Podcast, Rich Herrera. I want to know about you guys. What was light like growing up around your dad while he was playing with you guys were younger? Now in its fourth year, this is the one and only Red Boon Podcast. Welcome, everybody. It's this week's edition of Turning to a Boonie. I'm Richard, the executive producer of the Red Boon Podcast and host on the Infinity Sports Network. Odyssey insider who is such a big deal. He doesn't come on network radio with me anymore, so the only place I can hang out with him is here on the podcast, Red Boon. Happy post all-star game to you, Boonie. Yes, yes. I'm over here, Rich. Just playing second base. I've been told by my Odyssey insider and podcast. And I called a team at this point. Our team says, "Boonie, you're doing great. Just play second base." So I'm really doing it. That's it. You're just going to share all of our secrets in front of the world. I love it. I love it. Yeah, play second base. It's a process, man. It's a process. Well, okay. So folks, you're Brett when he goes on the radio across the country. How many stations do you do a week? Ah, four or five. Four or five. And you go, "Hey, Brett, tell me about the podcast. How are you doing? What do you say?" Well, I've changed it. You know, it's been a lot of fun. It started out as just an experiment, a learning process, educational. I got all those things, but it's really turned into a, it's got a life of its own now. It's growing. People love it. I'm hearing all over the country. I get calls all over the, all the time from people on the East Coast, West Coast. Hey, I heard your commercial today. That's cool. I've still never heard my commercial, but I think Odyssey's doing a good job. It's on the East Coast. I hear from people in Philly, New York, Texas, and now I heard locally here in San Diego, but I'm so busy putting out fires for the Odyssey crew doing this podcast. I don't get to listen to my own commercial, but no, I'm kidding. Everything's going great. It's, it's a lot of fun and we keep cranking them out. Well, that mailbag. Now I'm answering mailbag. You've got a, you've got a special announcement today for the fans out there. People listen to the podcast, but once again, I'm going to stay in my lane and play second base. All right, Rich. So what he's talking about, folks, is as this podcast has grown, we'll just, we'll pull the curtains back today, as this podcast has grown. And now we've added a component that you can watch the podcast on YouTube. We have our own dedicated YouTube channel that you can watch the podcast on. We have clips of the podcast. So if you're in a rush and you just want to hear something like next week, we're going to have Bo Jackson on. So if you want to hear Bo Jackson talking about Bo doesn't know diddly, we'll put it in a snackable size that you can listen to on your 10 minute drive to drop your kids off. It, literally, then we'll have the full podcast, which I think is going to go about an hour and 15 really great podcast with with Bo Jackson coming up on Monday. And we have different people that help us on the podcast. Mike, who I can ever pronounce his last name the right way is our, is our producer and takes care of everything technically. But Brett and I'll have meetings and he'll start telling Mike how to do his job. He'll start telling me what he wants me to do. And then we look at Brett and go, what position do you play, Brett? That's right. And you say second base. But I'll tell you this, at the end of the day, all you fans listening, it is the Brett Boone podcast. So when push comes to shove, I do win. But I, unless we hit the mute to that, but I've learned enough that stick to what you know, I think we'd all be better off. So I don't try to do Rich's job. I don't try to do Mike's job. Other people that are in the fold. I just, you're there just looking good looking. I've gotten better though, Rich. You got to admit it first that because you know, you come up as an athlete and all you're worried about is you control your environment, you control everything you do, the workspace that the workload preparing. So it's always you, you, you. So you get into this and yeah, I want the podcast to look like this, but but you've never done this, Brett. And you've never been behind the scenes and you never have gone over content and clips and what works and what does. So sometimes I need to humble myself, take a step back and say, I don't, well, as Bo would say, I don't know diddly about certain things in this industry. But but that being said, I do, I do have fun. And it really is as dorky as it sounds. It's been a very educational process. And I have a new found appreciation for this side of the business, this side of the microphone, because as a player, you know, Rich, you had to deal with us for a long time. We could be a pain in the ass and we really don't take into consideration the other side and the work and the scheduling that goes into kidding. No, well, as an athlete, I would sit there and I'd have three or four requests every day and I'd say, yeah, I can do that. I can do that. And then all of a sudden something happens. I've got early work or somebody called a meeting. And I'll go to our PR guy and I'll say, I can't do the 340 hit. And now the three guys that I committed to the 340, they'll say, Oh, they'll, they'll, you know, they'll be in, they'll grin and bear it. Hey, coming up today, here in Seattle, Brett Boone's going to join us coming up at 340. You're going to want to make sure to tune in for what? Wait a minute. I'm getting something in my ear. Right. Brett Boone has a tummy ache and is not going to join us on the radio. Or maybe, hey, maybe skipper called a meeting, a team meeting. I cannot forego that. But my mind would say, Oh, I'll just make it up to them. I'll do it later. But I didn't realize they have me scheduled. Now they're scrambling for another guest. Now they ask another guest and he says, No, I'd love to come on the show, but I can't because I'm in Mexico. I'll do it next week. Well, I didn't really want you next week. I needed you right now. That's what I go through. So I appreciate the media side of it. Still a lot of you are a lot of you are. Let me tell you, there's a lot of you are still clowns in my mind. But I do have a stronger respect for the for the business and the job at hand. All right. So folks, no, I'm really staying with this for a minute. Because the Bo Jackson interviews coming up, that's going to be huge. And then the big beef I've always had with Brett. And you know what's coming, don't you? Hey, Brett, can I get you to join me on the radio? Yeah, yeah, yeah, just a minute. Hey, Brett, can I get you to come join me on the radio? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll be there just a minute. Rich, I thought Brett Boone was coming on with this. Yeah, he said just a minute. And then Brett Boone never showed up. Well, now you know what that's like. Now I know what that's like, but if you've noticed, I am very efficient these days in my my mid adult life. I do not make people wait. I am on time, except yesterday I had a meeting with an Odyssey technical advice to do some things on on my my setup and my house and it was 1130 call time. Mike sends it to me. Hey, you got to zoom guys going to dial in and he ended up dialing me and getting everything I need to for me. He was great. Andrew give a little shout out, but I was downstairs and something happened with one of my kids and they needed to do this and we were doing a project and it's 1135 and I go I never late. I'm never late. So it, you know, I look at an email. We don't have it one another's phone number. So I'm reading emails going I'm here. I'm here and I'm oh, I felt bad. I was just I plugged into the zoom. I said, I hope he didn't leave because because I don't know Andrew. Right. He was there. I apologize. I let him know. Hey, I appreciate it. I don't like to do this because we don't like this being done to us. But other than that, I'm pretty much damn on time. No, you are. And I tease Brett because that was at the All-Star game in Seattle, the one that you played in where we had all the Mariners. I was too entirely too too busy for the lights. I was correct. Yeah. So I still see Brett. I got every Seattle Mariner on there that I was assigned to get on the radio except for Brett. Yeah, well, that's a big deal. You were a very big deal. Speak into the All-Star game. Don't you know who I used to be? Come on, Rich. No, I've walked around with Brett in Seattle. It's like walking around with Elvis. We're talking more about that Bo Jackson interview coming up here in just a second. And just a quick reminder, we've started something new on the podcast. We're going to launch something new as well. I like the mailbag questions. So people can email questions and we'll ask them on the show. And if we use your question, you'll get a Brett Boone autograph. The email addresses Brett Boone 10 at yahoo.com, Brett Boone 10 at yahoo.com. Email Brett, your questions. And if we read them on the air, you're going to get a Brett Boone autograph baseball card. But we want to go a little bit further that Brett. I have an idea that I ran by you, ran by Mike, ran by all the powers of B. And everybody's a board. So here's what we're going to do, folks. Email us that question. And if it's a really good question, we're going to bring you on the Brett Boone podcast and you get to talk to Brett. You could join us online and you could speak to Brett and talk to him yourself and ask him your questions. So if you want to send in the email question, it's Brett Boone 10 at yahoo.com. If we use it and we read it in the air, great, you're going to get a Brett Boone autograph baseball card. If it's really good, we're going to invite you to be a guest here on the Boone podcast. How's that Brett? It's going to be interesting. I think it's a good, I think it's good though, interacting with fans that watch the game on a daily basis and have a question. And I don't know, we'll see how it goes. We will vet you very well. We will? No. No, I'm just going to let anybody other wants to come on. You want to talk to Brett? Go ahead here. Well, we do. We do tape it. I'm going to go down to the little before we go down to the pigly legally. Hey, you want to talk to Brett? Here you go. All right. So anyway, that's Brett Boone 10 at yahoo.com. And you can join us here on the podcast. Let's get after it. Again, we'll talk about the Bo Jackson. Oh, by the way, since we're doing all this housekeeping stuff, more people need to rate and review us on Apple. I'm just going to throw that out once. We haven't gotten it. We haven't had a review in a while. Please help us grow the podcast rate and review us. Okay, great review us. Even if it's a shitty review, give me the shitty review I can handle it. There was one the other day. We're down. Somebody gave us the shitty reviews usually about rich. No, this one is about you. Oh, okay. We're down to like a 4.9 rating. Somebody didn't like us as much as everybody else. We've had nothing but five star ratings. Somebody gave us less than five stars. 49. 49 still ain't bad. 49 ain't bad. I don't give fives to anybody. Oh, excuse me. Nobody's getting a five. You don't give anybody a five? Well, what's a five star thing you've had? Nothing. Nobody's ever exceeded. If I, okay, Netflix, we used to do this. All right. But let's say Netflix. Let's say all time. In life. Just in life. Somewhere you've been where somebody gave you five star service. Five star. A five star product. Five star service. Five star waiter. Something. Bo 3.0. Was five star? Bo 3.0. It's his new hydration drink. I'm giving him another plug. 5.0. I've only been taking it for a couple of days. But five point. Oh, like somebody just exceeded your expectations. Today, my pharmacist exceeded my expectations. She took care of everything and she called and said, Hey, what about this? She was outstanding. What about you? Well, Rich, this is what we do. And we all did it as kids. Kids are young adults. You rated what? Who ever you were dating. If you're a woman, you're dating a man, a man, you're dating a woman. Oh, it was usually out of 10, right? So you go, Oh, she's a nine, eight, whatever your your scale is. But what did what was the normal thing? Nobody's a 10. Nobody back in my day when I was coming up, when I was a kid, Cindy Crawford was the supermodel. She's not a 10, but she's a 9.99 because you don't give tens. That's why you don't give a five, right? What world do you live in? Besides, I don't want to be rated a scale of one to 10 because then somebody's gonna ask, well, you know, Rich, you're dating her and she's a nine. That's pretty amazing. Right. I don't want them asking her. Yeah, but it's what's life. It's life. I don't want her asking that question. You never said that to your buddies? No. Hey, what is she? Oh, she's every bit. She's an eight. She's an eight. No, that's all that's real life. You're not being honest. Women do it to men too. I don't want them to do it. I don't want them doing it to me. Well, a lot of us, especially as we get on our radio, our ratings going down. You know, one time you thought you were a hard seven. Now they're like, yeah, you're more of a six. You know the question I have to ask. And it's ugly when you get under a six. I have to ask the question. Yes. You know the question's coming, don't you? You open the door. No idea. What is Brett Boone? Overall package. Yeah. Inelect and Paul. So when your wife is having lunch with their girlfriends. And I think as adults and mature adults, I don't think we're as hard of rating. You know, there's always that. And this is what I was fasting. It's always the standard bearers. What? Can I interrupt you for a second? What kind of shoe? That's what you do. What kind of shoes you're wearing as I walk you as I watch you back pedal here. Don't don't don't don't twist an ankle. Well, we're not in the business of rating ourselves. I just want you just do it out. I want to never rate ourselves. You never sit there with the boys and say, she's an eight and I'm a seven. We never say that as you go. I'm over my skis. She's way too good for me. No, I've never thought I was over my skis. So I want to know the the people want to know. I have no idea. What? No, no, no. I'm not letting you get away without answering this question. Listen, here's all the people are sitting here right now wanting to know. Matthew Boone, your brother is sitting here listening to the podcast. He wants to know what Brett rates himself. I'm going to write myself. I'm going to write myself over all in in life. And who wants to know what Brett rates himself. I'll give myself a nice everything included solid seven. A seven. And then some people some people would come under that. Some people would give the Brett Boone fans out there will say he's in my 10. But there's no 10. What's what's the standard bearer for men? Oh, who do you think you are? Brad Pitt. So early on, pit was kind of the north star. He's a 10. So a fellow USC Trojan is a 10. And Brett Boone is now a seven. So you're within who's attacking distance of Brad Pitt. Who's a US now? I did. Brad Pitt went to USC. But we're not talking about look. We're talking about overall package human being. All right. How about looks that? I don't know. You said it. You I hate. I hate looking at myself. I hate pictures of myself. I hate watching video myself. I hate listening to myself talk. And I think I'm not I think I'm in the majority. I think most people out there unless I don't know there's something wrong with you. You perceive yourself something different. Right. You know, it's like we sit there. We sit in the mirror and we go, I look pretty good tonight and I get a picture of myself going. Oh gosh, it's horrible. I think I do a show and man, did I sound good? And my voice was was right on point. And I listened back and I could barely listen to it. I listened to it for, you know, my wife will tell me, Hey, that podcast was really good. And she's like, I just love this part. She'll turn it on in the car. And I'll be like, listen, I was there. I heard it. Turn it off. What do you want to listen to? I said anything but myself talk because you because you because you when you hear yourself on tape, it's not what you hear in your head. Well, I think too. It's not weird. I think too. And maybe maybe not everybody, but I don't think anybody really I mean, think about when you go through pictures at a family gathering, we take pictures. Hey, I usually look at the pictures and that's a great shot of her or him or my daughter or my son. And then you look at yourself and I don't think you're ever pleased with it. Like, how'd you look? Well, for that picture, all considering I was okay. But man, that was a really great picture of Jake or Savannah or my mom. I think my mom looked really pretty. But you never say, boy, I look great. At least that's my recollection. And I think the women especially are extra hard on themselves. I learned from the Instagram of my my stepdaughters and my daughter. They're always at angles and they know how to trick everybody. But for us, men, we're not we're usually not good at it. That my new thing is when when I take a picture is lighting's everything. Lighting's everything. Shoot from above. Don't shoot from below. Right. You don't want to see a chin if you're fat ass. If you're Brett Boney, you've been eating too many cinnamon bears. All right. So overall package, Brett rates himself a seven. I like it. Looks wise. We want to know what Brett rates himself. I'm going to stick right in the middle. I'm going to go with the seven my whole life just my life. Do you get your phone right there with you? Yeah. Can you text your wife and ask her what she would rate you on a scale on one to seven? She's we want to know. Depends what she wants. We're going on a trip here soon. I'll pray. I tend tends across the board with an eye. I just want to tell one of the tends with an eye tends with an eye roll, but bust out the phone. No, she's at spin class. She won't even answer it. All right. Next podcast. We want to know what Mrs. Boone rates you. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to text Matthew right now. I'm going to go text I'm going to text Matthew and ask Matthew looks wise what he would rate and I'll give it to you by the end of the show. All right. All right. Let's get to the let's get to the podcast and after your year. Look how strange is this your texting my youngest brother for a looks text for his oldest brother. Yeah, that's bizarre. Well, who would give it to you? Who would be more brutally honest? Oh, Matt, he'd be pretty honest. Yeah, he's going to be honest. But I found too, especially as we get older, I don't see things. You ever you ever notice this with your kids? You know, someone will bring home someone they're dating. Oh, she's cute, right? Or you don't see the things you don't see through the same lens as somebody 30 years your junior. Like for for example, I see these young kids and I'll see let's say judo or Isaiah is going to go on a date and I'll look at a girl and go that girl she's adorable. And they'll get especially in high school. They'll give me the eye roll. Like are you serious? She's horrible. And I'm sitting there going, I think she's cute. And then the girl the girl or the guy that my step daughters will say, oh, he's really handsome. He's really this. Sometimes I might go, not really. Or I might say, that's a good looking kid. And they'll be like him. So I found that my taste and my rating system doesn't coincide with the younger generation. I would agree with that. I would agree with that because I think it's experience wisdom and knowledge. 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As one of Colorado's largest credit unions, Belco offers great rates on products like our free boost interest checking and lower rates on loans, including our home equity choice line. Bank virtually anytime, anywhere, through online banking and our mobile app. Becoming a member has never been easier. Visit belco.org or stop by any belco branch. Membership eligibility required, equal housing opportunity, all-own subject to approval, insured by NCUA. Belco, banking for everyone. Yeah, I think I might we might look at it differently. Like we can look at a younger person and look at them and say. You project. Project when when he gets older or when he gets older, he's going to be a really handsome man. When she gets older, she's going to be really beautiful. And maybe at the time, they're in that little awkward stage, but we can see the future and they can't. All right. Future. I sent the text to Maddie, so we'll see how Matt rates you on a scale of one to 10. You want to know what he said? I don't know. Well, here's what I told him. I said, Matt, we're in the middle of the podcast, we're rating Brett and a scale of one to 10. He says, Brad Pitt is a 10 overall package. He knows. But but you're you're misconstruing it. Brad Pitt is not a 10 overall package. In his day. In his day. I think he was the standard barrier for women. Brad Pitt, who do you think you are? Brad Pitt. So to me, just strictly aesthetically, Pitt came in as a 10. We're rating me overall package. No, then you also then you also. My uncanny my uncanny my savviness, my my wit. Yes, my intellect, my gravitas. Yes. That's all thrown into the mix. Right. So I said it back in this day. So I think I'm undervaluing myself over a seven. Okay, we'll see. I think I'm undervaluing myself overall. It looks wise. I'll just stick with a seven because it's a mundane middle of the road. Seven is above average. But but here's the deal. I've never rated myself. I know. That's why I think this is fun. But I've rated other people and every and everybody does. And if you say you haven't, you're lying. Get out of the politically correct world. Are you a mullion? Is Pete Rose would call you? Pete Rose or double bullion? No, absolutely not. Pete Rose calls everybody a mullion. He called me a mullion. He called Brad Pitt a mullion. That's the way it is. All right, let's get to this. The baseball stuff I wanted to talk about. All star game, Home Run Derby, Brett Boone's reaction. I've been from my experience in the Home Run Derby 15 years ago. It was my last longer than that 20 years ago now. We liked our Home Run Derby because it was our Home Run Derby. It was 10 outs. It was simple. You didn't have as much action. There weren't as many home runs. If you hit five home runs in around, you did a pretty good job. Today, obviously, it's a million home runs. And I thought, even as of two, three, four years ago, this is a better format. There's more action. Stamina becomes a part. But I was watching the other day and I thought, why do they hit so many home runs? The BP is really good. They're always strikes. I noticed they're throwing from like 10 feet away. It's almost like it's overhand soft toss. Even me with my bad batting practice skills, I think I could throw a strike from that distance. The balls are always livelier. They always have been all star game. They want a good show. I accept that. They want balls to go 500 feet. I don't know. I just feel like it's kind of too easy to hit a homer. Well, it's the one guy that looked like iron might just kind of, but he's pushed it. He doesn't even have to throw. You notice it's not even a wind up in a throw. It's just going. It's because he's so close to home play. So I think to hit the home runs with the balls live, they're lively. So the balls just jump. I think it's really easy to hit a ton of home runs. And it really comes down to stamina. It really comes down to how good a cardio shape are you in? Because who can go the longest? So I don't know. I think still people really like it. There's a million dollar price now. So let me ask you this. That's not incentive. I don't know what is to get the guys that really want to be in there. In my day, it was basically who are the top four homerun hitters at the all-star break in each league? And that's who we invite. And then maybe somebody's injured. Maybe somebody's not. You go down to the next most home runs today. It's like who can we get to do it? Stamina. Explain to us the stamina of just swinging, swinging, swinging, and how you get. Well, I think once again, my generation of homerun derby different, there was 10 out. So you got there quicker. You're probably only going to hit five. If you have a great round, you're going to hit eight home runs, eight or nine home runs. Now they're hitting 30 home runs, 40 home runs. So I think stamina wise, cardio wise, now it's a much longer race. Is it cardio or muscles? It's both. I think it's if you don't train in Idaho or Utah, if you're not a hiker, there's nothing to replace. You have to train on that hill at a higher level. There's less oxygen. Right. And you can't replace that. I think it's the same thing with this. You've never sit there in batting practice, preparing for a big league game and say, how many home runs can I hit? So put me on the clock. I'm just going to hit as many as we don't train like that. We train, boom, work in the ball around the field. Okay, let me pop a few home runs for the game. All right. I'm ready for the game. That's how how many big swings during batting practice would you take a day? Like you're trying to hit one. You're going to have three rounds of three or four rounds of seven or three rounds of seven, maybe an emergency round at the end. So I'm really, at the end, I'd pop a few. So three or four, and the rest, I'm just kind of moving my swing, getting feeling good. So with that being said, do you still think there's anything to or not to, the home run derby will wreck you for the second half? Absolutely. I never thought that. I've never thought even if you strain yourself and you know, these guys, they're young, they're young men. They're 28, they're 29, they're 30 years old. This is, this is a joke for them. I mean, this is not a big deal. As you get a holder, it can't, but as far as running, no, you're still having an efficient swing. Think of this. To hit a home run in the seats, you have to do everything correctly. Balls don't go in. Home runs are really good, right? Probably the ultimate offensive category. So to hit a home run, you have to do everything fundamentally sound for the ball to carry and go into the seats. I used to laugh at it. Young player come up, they'd hit a home run and you know, they always wanted to make sure it's okay. You know that guy that goes, was that good? Was that good? Oh, what do you think? No, you hit a ball 10 rows into the right center seats. That was a horrible swing. You're just looking for validation when you know it's good. When you hit a home run anytime, that's a good, efficient swing. So you're not going to mess your swing up. So I don't buy that. I think it's a reason to say, no, I don't want to do this home run derby. All start game jerseys. I got to get your take on this because you like the City Connect, you like the new jerseys, you like the different looks of these jerseys were universally panned. And I don't want to, this isn't fanatics. This isn't getting on Nike. This is major league baseball that approved these jerseys worked on the design. This is all on baseball. What did Brett Boone think of them? You're right. I do like the City Connect. I'm open to the new funkier, flashier jerseys that as a player I was not very open to. That being said, for those of you older podcast listeners right now, do you remember the old Miller like commercials less filling? It looked like those uniforms. This looked like your typical softball unis. Not just softball uniforms 1980 softball uniform. Right. Like Miller Rodney Dangerfield, those commercials actually Greg Lozinski did a couple right. It's absolutely a thumbs down. That's over the top. I tried to like them. I tried to be a millennial. I tried to think, you know, I'm open to all this new stuff that we're doing in the game and the City Connects are great. I looked at him and as much as I was trying to like him, thumbs down. Go back to the jersey. Go back to at least we've got so many fast forward thinking concepts in the game of baseball. Let's not have to be over the top on everything. So I think and it kind of changed my mind now too. Let's go back to the team jerseys for the All-Star game. I'm in that camp now. I was open to all this new stuff. I'm going back to the team jerseys. Is it is it jump in the shark? Like how much like home run derby the introductions and everything else? It just seems like they're trying so hard to get people excited that we've lost track of everything. No, I agree with that because once again, I'm trying to be open-minded. I like new things and a lot of these new things in baseball I'm I've warmed up to and I do like but let's not go too far. I mean, it's like we don't have to have you landing from a spaceship for the home run derby. Right. You know, I announce the guys. You know, I don't have to cut. It's not the ask. I don't need you to come from a stage under the under the stadium. There's enough going on. Simple is sometimes better. Simple is sometimes better. And I think as great as that, you know, it is an entertainment. It's now the guys walk the red carpet and it's more Hollywood. We didn't do that. That's fine to add that, you know, Hollywood-y feel to it. It is it is an exhibition. I get it. I'm sure they're out there doing data points and polling fans what they want because that's that's what it comes down to. It's what the fans want. But yeah, I think it's a little as you put it. Jump in the shark. Would you say so? Here's what I talked about this on the radio last weekend. I'll talk about it again this weekend is that baseball's been here and it's pretty steady. Eddie, but football separated itself by leaps and bounds in his grown-up popularity where baseball hasn't lost popularity, but it certainly hasn't gotten as big as the NFL has. And it seems to me like they're trying so hard to keep up with some of the stuff you see in the national football league. You look at the hype of the draft and the combines that baseball's trying desperately to try to match that type of energy and appeal. And it just it's missing its mark. No, I agree with you. And I think the the Abbott, first of all, I think there's more just casual fans for the NFL. But the Abbott fans, the fans there, the fans that do the fantasy league and go to the game and put on the guys jersey and they're at that bar every weekend watching football. They're a different fan than the baseball fan. Right. And I think they have to take that in consideration. Because you can't do that every day in baseball. I could do it once it's once a week for football. Once a week. I can't do it every day for baseball. Right. Right. You'd have to put baseball more in the golf category. You know how I used to complain? Oh, if you want to be an athlete, you want to make millions of dollars, you got to get rid of those quiet police signs and let them talk about your mom like they do talk about my mom when when I'm in the batter's box. Hey, nobody talks about Sue Boone. Well, they they used to yell at me. They could say anything. And I just thought, you know, kind of no holds barred type approach, but they pay the money to get in the seats, which results in the contract that I have. So that's kind of the negative side of being an athlete. So I'd look at golf and say, why does golf have and they always said, because Brett golf is a gentleman sport and it always has been. So I think baseball to a certain degree is baseball. Let's keep it in that genre. Instead, we can't go to the football crazy once a week fireworks all over the place. That's just it's just a different sport and it works and it works for them. What would Brett Boone suggest? What would Brett Boone suggest that baseball could do to grow the sport? Oh, man. Much football has grown. What could they do to grow the sport? Listen, let's have a combine. They try to have a draft. You're just not able to match what the NFL does. I think that the concept, uh, I think you need to go back more to the fundamentals of baseball. I think you need to have a real the first thing I think you always should do in growing the sport and baseball is really engage the the up and coming players engage the X players and really get them involved in the game. I and I'll use the I'll use the Yankees as an example. When I used to go as a player to play the Yankees and my generation was was Bernie Williams and Paul O'Neill and Jeter came along and and Jorge Posada and those great Yankee teams. We'd come to play them. That place was buzzing and it wasn't it wasn't necessarily because of them. It's because Reggie Jackson was leaning on the cage, which is my dad's generation. And then in the other corner, Yogi Berra is leaning on a Fungo. I think that's the best thing you can do for baseball for that father, son, grandpa in the stands. Grandpa's telling the grandson about see Yogi Berra. He was in my day. The dad can say, Reggie Jackson, there's Mr. October and the kid. This is my generation's going, but I'm here to see Jeter. Now that's changed. I want that father in this in the stands going, you should have seen Derek Jeter's son and that son's sitting there going, but I'm here to see Aaron judge. That's what baseball is about. I think they need to get back to that generational feel and appeal to to all generations of baseball because it's grandpa that takes dad to the game and it's dad that takes son to the game and to be able to hold on to those memories. I know as a dad now I sit there and I I sit there on the screen and I tell stories to my kids about see that guy right there. That guy was unbelievable. Well, dad, we don't even know who he is. Two of my kids didn't even know when I was having Bo Jackson on the podcast. And I said, are you kidding me? They're like, well, we kind of heard of them. Right. How good was he? I said, it was the epitome. It was the athlete times 10. I've never seen anyone like him then and I've never seen anyone like him since. So it's that kind of connection that I think baseball needs to get back to. So this young generation knows exactly who Derek Jeter is. Now he's out there. He's doing that the Fox, you know, with Poppy and a rod, but I just think you can't lose touch of that. And I think you just really keep that generational thing. By the way, I did get a response from Matt Boone. I'll share that with you a little bit later in the podcast. I don't know if you're gonna be happy or not of what what he thinks of your looks, but we'll do that coming up. I'll throw this out at you. So I'm fascinated right now watching hard knocks, you know, hard knocks is the football thing. Football show. So right now they're doing a hard knocks off season. And I am locked into this, like nobody else's business comes out on Tuesday. It's everything that goes on in the off season. Players aren't involved in it. It's not inside the locker room. It's inside the front office. So we're watching the general manager go through free agency getting ready for the draft of the combines. I find the behind the stuff behind the scene stuff fascinating for someone like me. And I think all sports fans get excited for hard knocks. Baseball wants to try to do something like that, but but they haven't been able to take you inside the game to take you to that next level of fandom the way the National Football League is. We try the show time show time try to do a hard knock style show with the Marlins. Why does it baseball go forward and say, Hey HBO, come to a hard knocks on us and take us inside the clubhouse of the locker room and on the bus and the charters and let us get a behind the scene. Look, I think it's a great idea. I think it's great. Especially that way. You know, I think you have to be careful when following football and football does a great thing. You got to realize once again, this is not football. This is baseball. It's a different fan. You got a cater to your fan base and everything that works in football is not going to work in baseball. But I think this behind the scenes of a baseball season, I think it's more it would be more interesting to me for the fans to be able to see. How does my glove get into my locker in Texas when I'm playing a night game in Seattle the next day? And how is everything uniform and perfect when I get to the ballpark? And I still haven't seen a bag. I think people would be fascinated about the process. Yeah, that's cool stuff. But the other part of hard knocks is, and I'm guilty of this every time I play fantasy football, is I draft all the guys I saw hard knocks because I have a personal connection to them. What about just allowing us to get really a real personal connection right now? Baseball has this idea that we want to do. We want to hear on field interviews during the game while someone's playing in the field. And we've seen a couple people get distracted and cause cause an error or ball gets misplayed. I don't think that I don't think that shares with us the personality of what's like to be in the dugout. So if I were to produce, if I were to produce line drives or whatever I'm going to call it, immediately baseball, is you as a player, would you be comfortable? I really got to see the personal interaction, the good, the bad and the ugly that goes on in a baseball game? Well, I think unless as long as you're aware and you have a microphone on, it's never going to be 100% authentic. It's just like we do reality shows. Are they really reality if there's a camera following you around and you have a microphone clip to you? Yeah, if you do it 24/7, you're going to slip up and they're going to see some real moments. But if I have a mic on for an hour and I go out onto the field, I'm going to give you a little insight of what it's like. But I'm always going to in the back of my mind going, watch what you say, watch what you say. Not that anything controversial would get on the air because you're going to have producers that say, we can't show that on Fox, we can't show that on MLB network. So you do have a safe gap there, a net. But if you did it on cable TV, you can drop all the f-bombs you want? Yeah, but you're still never going to see the real because they're going to be calculated f-bombs. They're going to be, oh, is this hit here? Does it hit there? You're not going to see that in the moment, real reaction. So reality TV as close as it can be to the real thing. Reality TV really isn't real because it's you're still aware. I think NFL films, NFL films has gotten as close as you could be. And I used to be a silent reporter. So I would see the axis that NFL films would have on the sideline during the game, watching people throw things, curse, yell, scream. Well, if you're in the dugout and there's a fixed camera and there's just a big boom, Mike, that's going to pick up little things. And it's there every day for 162 games. Oh, you're going to let your guard down. At some point, you're going to forget the cameras are there. But if you do it for an individual day or game or all-star game, they put a mic on me for an hour. I'm going to be very super aware, almost like when I'm talking in interacting with someone, letting them know like, hey, I have a mic, so be careful. Right. It's first state behavior. Right. If you just fixate cameras and say they're going to be here every single day, after a while, you have to, you're going to go about your business and you're going to forget that the cameras are there. Well, I've seen hard knocks where they do have the fixed cameras that are, that are robotic and then they have the guys walking around omnipresent, but you always have cameras around you. So I think that for a while, they forget about it. All right. So tell me this. If, if I'm making you my executive producer, and we're talking about what am I really going to capture inside the dugout? Because we'll watch TV and we'll kind of look and see a couple shots of somebody that dug out. So the big thing was Marcus Strowman and, and Aaron Judge, it was like a 15 second conversation, but it got replayed over and over again. You would have thought it was a, it was a one hour inquisition when, when I'll tell you what I think, I think you'd be probably maybe even shocked to find out that that conversation had nothing to do with happen that day on the field. Tankinis, bikinis, monokinis. Walmart is the best kept secret for stylish summer swimwear. Make a splash with hot summer essentials like beach bags, sandals, and more. Find your style at Walmart. All state wants to remind fans that mayhem is everywhere. 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They're just different. That's what I found in my travel. Well, there's, there's, there's, there's a, there's raw, there's raw emotions and football that you could take out because it's so physical. If I get mad at something, I'm going to go smash into them. You have to be more controlled how you do it at baseball. But there was an incident in the national football league, Dallas Cowboys. It was a wide receiver for the Dallas Cowboys. It just saw him screaming, yelling at his quarterback. And all of us in the media thought, Oh, look what a prima Donna he was. And then when you actually heard the sound from NFL films, it's, he's standing screaming, yelling his quarterback, rooting him on, trying to pump him up. Come on, we got this, we got this. But everybody automatically thought he was being a diva. And it wasn't fair. Then we found out we were all wrong in the media. So if I went inside that dugout with you, and I had the reality style of, of documentary in mind, what would I see going on in the dugout? Oh, you're going to see a lot of emotions. You're going to see guys coming out, stuff that you would not normally see. Big hit, big situation. A lot of times the guys are going to come up. I told him not to throw that slider. I knew it. I've been sitting on that thing for three at bats now. And he finally gave it to me. And it's going to be that sort of sort of celebratory. You're going to see a lot of interaction from hitter to hitter down the line. What's he got? What's his tendencies? What's that two seem look like? You're going to hear, you're going to hear the other side of those guys that are really good at finding tells. Hey, Boonie, come here. You want to know that when he holds his glove here, it's a break ball. When he holds his glove here, it's a fastball. And that is only a half an inch difference. Now, I'm going to start watching. I'm going to start watching and go, I can't see it. I can't see what you're seeing. Hey, you want to know the signs. Now, I don't know if they're going to put this out. You want to know the signs. It's first sign after through. It's first sign after two. Okay, so when you're on second base, if you want to know the signs, you're going to see real stuff like that. If there's a fixed camera and we kind of don't that be good for the game? I think it would be cool because you're still going to have people in that truck that are that are editing. So anything that would be dangerous to get out or or something, right? And you do a good job with that. And I think yes, I think it would be good for the game because I think the fans would really like it because you'd be able to see the real you get to know the real players while they're going through this and you get that connection with them. Yeah, and you still have the the ability of the edit button. Right, right. Well, they take they shoot it and they put it out like three days later, but some pretty intense editing. Would we see anything fun? Oh, absolutely. We see joking around. A lot of it. I've never asked you this. Let's say Brett Boone made the last out in the third inning. You come back on the bottom of the fourth. What's Brett Boone doing? What he knows he's not going to he's probably not going to come up this inning. I'm in the video room in our day. Now they have an air an iPad right there in the day, but I'm down in the video room with my video guy Carl and I'm looking for things. I'm looking for things and say, Oh, why didn't they're relaxing? Never. I was always as a hitter. When I knew I wasn't going to be up, I was always in the video room and sometimes watching video of my last at bat, but a lot of times I just need a TV. I'm watching my my teammates and how they're being pitched to in the city. Oh, so you're watching the feed. You're watching live game. A lot of times if I'm in the video room, there's a live feed always next to the to the feed that I'm reviewing video on. So I'm getting the best of both worlds. Sometimes I don't need to see my last bet. I want to see what he's doing to the guys deeper in the lineup, right? I'm always looking for tendencies. All right. When did you know it was time to come back out, run down the tunnel? Two outs? Hey, you're you're you're just aware. You have a feel for it. It depends. I know exactly where my helmet, my gloves are my bat. Now in a perfect world, I know if I'm coming up third, I'm going to be in the dugout when that guy's in the box that lead off hitter, that lead off hitter because I got to get my helmet on and get ready because he might swing at the next pitch. Now all of a sudden within 30 seconds, I want to be in the on deck circle. All right. When you're on the on deck circle, this is something for my for my HBO hard knocks MLB style. What are you doing? Are you looking at him? Are you paying attention to you while you're standing there on the on deck circle? Am I paying it? Say that again? Are you paying attention to the pitcher? Or are you preparing yourself worrying about you? Are you worrying about the pitcher? You worrying about you? I've already got my I've already got my I've already got my at bat mapped out. I already know what I'm going to do. I'm watching the I'm watching the pitcher. I'm watching the game. I'm watching the hitter in front of me. I'm watching this is the situation of the game changing who's warming up in the bullpen. So possibility he's going to come into face me. I've got all these things going on in my mind and I pretty much have an idea what I'm doing. And for sure, when I leave that batter's box, my my approach has already been formulated. I already know what I'm looking for, what I'm and I'm going to stick with that. I'm not going to waver. And I do that over 162 games gives me the best chance for for the best success that I can have individually. Do you really need the donut the pine tar and everything else over there to stretch out? Yeah, that's just a part. Yeah, that's a part of it. That's part of it. Is that routinely? No, I like it. It's like when I get ready to play golf, I have a heavy club that I swing. It seems like I feel loose when I'm about to hit the ball. So yeah, heavy bat for me. I like the heavy bat. Some guys swung a light bat before and then like to have a little more heavy. So it's all preference. It's all preference. But my thing was donut. I like something heavy. Now when I put the bat in my hand, I feel good. I feel loose. I feel like I'm ready to go. All right. I got the mailbag. And then I've got Matt Boone's response, which do you want to do first? Yeah, Mike's going to get pissed at us. We're going over schedule. Oh, well, let's hurry up and get. We like to keep it tight. All right, real quick. Here's what here's what Matt Boone said. If Brett Boone gave himself a seven and we say the standard is Brad Pitt, he gives you what do you what do you think your little brother is going to give you? Seven. No, what do you think he gives you above or below? I don't know. Overall. Overall. Yeah. Barring looks just overall. Matt's going to be tough on me on that. Eight. He gave you a seven point three on overall package. Above average. This is this. I think I think I'm under valuing myself overall package. He says I'll stick with whatever. Overall package. He said above average, but not elite. Above average, but not elite. And that's from Matt Boone of. Boone action turf. Boone action turf. Anybody in Southern California? Then he's either a football field, soccer stadium, baseball stadium, resurfaced. Pudding green residential commercial. Boone action turf. And Matt Boone, he's Matt Boone's tough on me too. So I'll take that as a win. Well, I thought I got a chance. I actually got a chance to meet Matt Boone this week and have a conversation when it was pretty fun. He says overall looks. He gives you a what do you think he's going to give you looks wise? I don't know. Come on. Seven. What? Seven. Six point eight. He just couldn't give you the seven. He's I'm telling you, Matt, he's one of my biggest critics. Love the death. He's my little brother. I like it. All right. Mailbag time. If you want to email us a question, Brett will answer your question on the air. And if it's really good, we'll bring you on the podcast. So this is from Brandon all star week. What are my favorite weeks of the summer? If you're not involved in the festivities, what does a player do with their, their life between Sunday night and Friday night when they get back to work? If you're not playing the game, Brett, what do you do? You pretend like you needed a rest. Vegas? A lot of times I'd go to Vegas, but you're always answering questions. Hey, I need a breather. When really in my mind, I'm thinking I wish I would have made the team. But yeah, I'm going to go somewhere and relax. Get off your feet. Just relax. Let my hair down for a minute. And it's only a brief, you know, it's probably 48 hours. We're not thinking about the game. And then I'm getting up and I'm hitting the day before, and I'm just getting my getting, getting moving again because that season comes back quicker than it's only a four day break. Do you want me to really, I'm going to really disconnect for 48 hours and just breathe, go to Vegas, do whatever I do, maybe go to a resort or something where it's sun and surf. And after the 48 hours, I'm kind of thinking, all right, it's time to get back in go mode because I got a game in two days. So I'm probably going to go out and hit and maybe, maybe throw and run a little bit and get ready for game time again. Do you need to break more mentally or physically depends depends on the year. I could come into the break thinking I don't want to break ever because I'm so hot and I feel great and I'm locked in right now. I don't want this break to come. I don't need this break in those years where I'm crawling to the break going, please, please give me a break. So it's it's year to year. I remember when you're, I went to the Ritz Carlton in Florida for the four days of the break, and as I'm walking in, Joe Mann's walking out and like, oh, skip, I'm sorry to go see up to tell you what, I'm going to act like I don't know you so you can have a rest. Don't talk to me, don't pay attention to me, don't talk to my family, I won't talk to yours. We'll just be two people over here and you just get away from everybody and don't think about the game. He said, thank you. So that was cool. That was it. All right, Bo Jackson's coming up next Monday on the podcast. I am excited to talk to someone that we always talk about fictional characters. That is Bo. Yes, he's coming up. He's he's very interesting. We set it up so we didn't just ask the questions that everybody else asked. Who's the next Bo Jackson? Right, who's running? What was that like running up the wall to throw? You know, he it gets to there because him and him and dad were when I met when I met Bo back in the day, I was a kid and him and dad were teammates and I got to play against them a little bit. We got a really cool story about that, but Bo's an interesting man and a good man and a principled man. We get into to can you imagine being Bo Jackson coming up? How many people wanted a piece of him and interesting some of the answers he gave and how he lived his life then and how he lives it now gets a lot of kudos to how he was raised. Really interesting look into Bo. I enjoyed it. Like you mentioned, it's a little over an hour, but we get into the weeds. You're going to you're going to really like it, Rich. I one of the things I wanted you to ask him and you asked him and I'm just going to tell you you got to listen. We asked him about NIL. What would Bo Jackson be worth? NIL if he was playing you, so that's coming up on Monday. That's going to just about wrap everything up for us. Again, rate, review, please send your questions and we'll pick one of you to come on live with us hopefully next week. Brett Boone 10 at yahoo.com, but I want to dedicate the podcast to someone very, very special. We've had a lot of people, stars and people that have come on this podcast that have passed away. The great Bill Walton passes away recently. He was a friend of this podcast. We just lost Willie Mays, Orlando Sapeta. We talked about those men, but we just lost someone very near and dear to a lot of us in sports and someone that I just looked up to as a role model, Pat Williams, who was one of the founders of the Orlando Magic. He came on the show, Brett. He is probably one of the most inspirational men I've ever met. I got one of his books on my phone whenever I'm feeling down. I'll listen to his words. He was just an incredible guy. He was a guest on the podcast, and he meant a lot to a lot of people in sports, and I was going to let you add anything if you like. Yeah, he's I met Pat through my father who they became really good friends over the years, Philadelphia, Sixers, GM, I believe Chicago, Bull GM brought the Orlando Magic, drafted Shaq. It was a big reason that the Orlando Magic worthy Orlando Orlando Magic and ended up there. I wrote a ton of books. I reached out to him when I wrote my book eight or nine years ago. He gave me some words. We had him on the podcast. He has 18 children, 14 that he adopted. He was that guy, always, always innovative, but just cared so much. You adopt 14 kids. You've got a soft spot, and he was just that man. Incredibly, he was a man of faith and just touched a lot of people's lives. I know today, I texted my mom. I said, "Pat Williams passed away," and she was kind of blown away. Like, "Oh my goodness, she didn't even know my mom's had a lot of moving parts lately." She flooded her basement, so she didn't even see the news that I did today, and she actually called me and said, "I didn't even know." So, great man. Rest in peace, Pat Williams. Yeah, and 14 kids. You know, they didn't have dining room table. They had picnic benches. 18 kids. 14 adopted kids, yeah. And they actually had a school bus when the family would go do something, just an incredible, incredible man. So again, our hearts and thoughts and prayers go out to Pat Williams and everyone who loved him as much as we did. That's going to do it for the podcast for today. I'm Rich Rare. That's Brett Boone. Booty, thanks so much. Don't forget, coming on Monday, Bo Jackson, you're on the Boone podcast. You got it, guys. Thank you. All-star, closer, Ken Lee Janssen. We have a question. 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