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The fan, 1019 FM, and always live on the free Odyssey app. Beaten it down, back on the fan. Right now, we are joined by Odyssey MLB insider Brett Boone. Insider calls are presented by Granger. What supplies and solutions for every industry, Granger has the right product for you. Call click Granger.com or just stop by. Brett is also the host of the Brett Boone podcast featuring the most notable names in baseball and around sports every week. Brett, we appreciate the few minutes here. How's, how do you think your brothers feel under this, this rough stretch for his ball club? I stay away from him. I said, you know, that's these times I give him a cuss. It's a, you want to be a big league manager, do you? Now, it's, you know, he's gone through this before. I talked to him the other day. He's fine. I mean, this is, especially in today's game, you've got to realize that throughout the course of the season, no matter what's going on. I mean, they came through San Diego a month ago, and this team was as hot as it could be. It was like a rock concert going on. I remember going on shows and then asking me, you know, you saw the Yankees. I said, you don't want to play the Yankees right now. They couldn't lose. Now all of a sudden flipped the script. I think they're six and 14. They're last 20. They're having a tough time. One of they squeaked one out last night, two to one game. But that's the evidence for baseball. For me, the key, and I think the key for this offense, but yeah, the one so does going to be an MVP candidate. Aaron Judge keeps going, stays healthy, probably going to be the MVP. The key for me has been Giancarlo Stanton being a presence in that lineup. And when he went down, the team kind of went went south a little bit offensively. I think it's imperative that he's in the middle of that lineup and you can't just get around Soto and Judge. Now you've got to deal with a guy that's got a good chance to hit one off of the side. So I think his presence is kind of an undervalued thing. Hopefully they'll be getting him back soon. Obviously, the pitching staff has been scuffling holes back, but he's still in kind of that spring training mode in that bullpen. Statistically, it ranks, I think, third in the American League. But that bullpen's beat up and they're going to need some help. I see them to go to go at the deadline and look to bolster that bullpen. They better bolster them more than the bullpen. They better find a third baseman. I mean, listen, tell your brother, find the new second baseman. I can't stand watching the labor tour as he's so lazy. They're so bright. Here's the thing. I want to go back to something you said before. You said that he's been through this before. And I know what you mean, because I don't think Brian Cashman's built out very good teams. That's always been my opinion. I've said that on the air for a while. And I've defended your brother a lot. I like your brother. He's good manager. The one thing that's different this year with his team is I'm now seeing an erosion of fundamentals. I'm seeing an absence of effort with too many players and being locked in. And I know, I know that your brother is feisty. The whole savages thing, the way he lights up arms. I know he wants to explode. He doesn't. Behind closed doors. Is his team seeing the different Aaron Boone? Absolutely. And Aaron, you know, we're similar in a lot of ways. We're different in a lot of ways. We don't handle things the same all the time. I know Aaron, sometimes to a fault, will defend his players to the bitter end, especially publicly. But I know behind the scenes, it's come in here. I need to talk to you. Okay, it's that. We've got to realize that Major League Baseball here at all the time. Well, they need to do this in the discipline. Major League, these are big Lakers. This isn't JC College Baseball. We're going to bet you if you don't hustle. Now we're going to we're going to fire you if you don't hustle. Yeah, you maybe get a fine. But in a big league clubhouse, the way it is is you kind of have your players policing one another. I mean, it's like if I'm playing with you and you're pulling that crap on the field where you cost me a runner with my team again, we're going to have a big problem. And everybody in that room, their livelihood depends on one another. Get to the postseason. Ultimately, when in a world series, that's what we're in it for. But I laugh when I say, oh, he needs to be tougher. What are you going to do? These guys are making 20, 30 million dollars a year. It isn't babysitting. It's not college baseball where we can discipline you. And you're not going to play on Friday and Saturday. No, we need you to play every day. The bottom line wins and losses on a new basis. Well, and I see how Aaron comes across because he's always he will defend his team to a fault his players. They love him for it. But I get it from a media perspective that always being soft and he's not taking care. I know Aaron behind closed doors. And he's being tough on those guys. But more importantly, those guys, the Aaron judges of the world, the scandons, the cold. When you see what I've seen in the last few weeks and we also have the same clips, there's got to be saying what some some accountability amongst the players. That's what great teams do. We keep one another in chat. So it's on a Brett Boone, BT and Sal here on the Fannie's part of the Odyssey family. Listen, and I I presented the question that way. I don't I don't have a doubt that your brother behind closed doors is presenting this very differently and holding them accountable. And you are right. It is frustrating from our perspective speaking for our great Yankee fan audience. You know, they get frustrated by the constant defense of the players. I know why he does it. Trust me, I get it. You're right. It's not Juco ball understood. But then I guess Brett, I would say this while he is holding them accountable behind closed doors. If the product doesn't change, are they still receiving his message? Is that a fair question? I think it's fair question. And I don't but that'll play out with how this season plays out. You know, I look at what they've gone through. You're still sitting here in your 56 and 38, top four and all the game. If it doesn't change, well, then that that's what happens with with managers with players. I played for a lot of great managers played for a lot of great players. At the end of the day, players win and lose games. At the end of the day, managers are blamed for the losses. That's just the way it is. And the way it always has been. When you sign on the dotted line, you want to be the skipper of the New York game? You know, at the end of the day, first of all, you're going to be held to the fire in New York. And by the way, that's why I love playing it. I love the craziness. I love coming to New York. And I know, man, if I go over before, even though I'm a visitor, I'm going to hear about it. The same time, if I go four for four as a visitor, those fans are going to give you your just do. So I mean, I couldn't imagine. I would have loved to play in New York at some time in my career. I never got to do it. But that's, and I talked to Aaron about this, when, you know, when we talk, I said, why would you want to do it anywhere else? Man, you're on that hot plate all the time. Do you win in New York? No, man, you have to keep that city for the rest of your life. I wouldn't want to do it any other way. And yes, the press is tough. Yes, the fans expect big things, but that's what makes New York, New York, and the greatest place on earth. And I wouldn't want to do it in any other venue. BT there knows what it's about. Those players got to get it done. He's got to find a way. What managers do is they get great players. They get egos. They get personality. And the great ones have the ability to put their players in the best situation for them to individually succeed. That's what the great managers do. That's what Aaron's got to do. And if the players don't play well, guess who gets the gets the all the all the smoke that's usually the manager. BT it's out on the fan. We're talking about Brett Boone. Insider calls are brought to you by Granger for the ones who get it done. Granger offers professional grade supplies and solutions made for every industry and backed by product experts called clickgranger.com or just stop by. You know, Brett, last time I had you on one of my favorite things was to hear about you and your brother in the relationship and the back and forth and the smack talk. Is this a time where you needle your brother a little bit and be like, come on, Aaron, you're worst team of baseball or you lay off and just let things be. I lay off. I lay off in these times. You know, he's got enough going on that he'll reach out to me. He's got a question or he'll run something by me once in a while. Sometimes he listens. Sometimes he doesn't listen. But in these times, I'll say I stay away from them when they're getting a butt kick and I stay away from them when they're winning everybody. Because I know if I give them a call and they won rattle off nine to ten and they lose that night, it's definitely because I gave them a call. So I stay away from you the street. The good time to call, you know, when they had a nice week, maybe a four, three, three and four, I give them a call and check in and most of our calls to check in on the family, you know, how my nephews are doing, how Aunt Laura's doing and we talk, you know, less baseball than people might think. But yeah, during the season, during a run, once in a while, reach out to him. I'll have some questions. What do you think about doing this, this and this? And he'll hit me with some questions. So most of our conversations really, what people wouldn't really think about is it's more about our lives and our family and how are the kids doing versus what do you think about the last four games and particular players. You know, that comes into the phrase. Sometimes, like I said, sometimes we're in agreement. Sometimes we disagree. I'll let him know. He knows where I stand on everything and he usually lets me know where he stands. So we're a lot alike, but then again, we're a lot different in many aspects, just how we go about our business. Aaron's obviously, you see him every day. You know, he's buttoned up and he comes and he defends. Sometimes I've got to tell him where I'm on the phone. I said, you realize that there's no cameras. I'm your brother and I know probably more than you do. You can shoot straight with this. This isn't the post game press conference. I tease him about that. See, it's funny. He's always be my little brother and I think he's doing a health job. And it's a tough, tough spot right now. That's what I like. The brotherly, you know, chop busting, busting chops right there between you two. Thank you. You see your brother. You said last time you see him go out and, you know, argue a call or get tossed. You give him some crap for that. That's what I like. Yeah, I told him. I said, how long are you going to argue this balls and strikes with the stupid box? That's not even legitimate strike zone. That's all we ever talk about. Now that you got laptops in your frickin in the dugout, well, did it not hit the line? So we're going to yell at him. I said, how long are we to yell at? I bought check that, you know, I could caught up in it. I'm sitting on my couch yelling at me thinking, wait a minute, I'm above this. I know that that box is wrong. And I know what a strike is by my eye. Him and David Bell, baby, they like to get thrown out of the gate. But he used a lot of a lot of memes have been made of it. And he's got a lot, a lot of good in a lot of ways with it. But when Aaron goes out, the one thing I love about my brother and I respect the hell, that's really Aaron Boone right there. That's it. He's a he's a good man. He's a man of principal, moral character, very high. He goes out to that umpire and he really thinks in his mind, I know how he thinks. All right, I want to be respectful. I don't want to show anybody up. But I need to get my point across because I'm so passionate about what I just saw. So he tries to reason with the umpires. And then he goes crazy because that's what he does. I think we talked about it a couple of weeks ago. That's the Aaron Boone I know playing flag football, playing street hockey. The cars are coming. We got to move the goals, put them back. And I used to ease them then. You know, we'd be playing with the ball in the backyard. He'd hit one that was a home run. I knew it was spare, but it was, you know, it was close. I'd say that's definitely tough. It's the same kid at 10 years old that I see at the at Yankee Stadium and I love him to death for it. That's really Aaron Boone right there. Oh man. So so Brett, help us with this, not just because of Aaron, but you know, you have the podcast with all to see you played the game a long time. Good player connected to the game when when Aaron or or other managers, but you can, you know, can take it wherever you want when they sit down to right out the line of card before the before tonight. Yanks Reyes, right? Is it hot? What not is it? Because I'm sure it is. How much of a of an organizational collaboration is it? This is a question that I think we all ask and nobody knows the real specific answer. If Aaron wants tonight one through nine in his own absolute way, does he have to justify it at all to other baseball people? How does that dynamic work with the lineup? We need the answer. We need the real answer. Nobody knows. I think it's a case to case, but I think it's an organization or organization thing. I think some organizations give a lot more leeway to the manager. I think if you go to the Texas Rangers on a Bruce Bochi, he's going to have he's going to have a little more leeway and kind of do what he wants to do. What do you feel? What has gut tells him? Because that's the way the Texas Rangers run their their organization. I think it's organization or organization. I think you get on the other side of a real analytical team. I think the Yankees are more of an analytical team. So it's a team effort and it's not just Aaron. Well, now I want to put him in the four hole and him in the six hole. I think there's a lot more that goes into it than just Aaron Booney's been. To be honest with you, we haven't discussed it and I don't go there with him. He'd probably be close to the best with me anyway on how the how the the cake's really made, but I think it's organization organization. Definitely my playing days and you know, I'm 15 years removed. It was pretty much a hundred percent in the hands of the manager at that time. Yeah, the one they see. We didn't have analytical teams. We didn't have analytical meetings before before games. We had coaches, staff that that would have some input to the manager, but I think the game has changed. And I don't think always in the in the best way. I love some of the things that that this data era and this this information generation that we're in right now, man, I'm envious of a lot of things we have in our fingertips. But I think too much information in the wrong hands can be detrimental. And sometimes I think baseball has gone a little overboard on the analytical. And I think it needs to curve it back. I think it's going to I think a lot of things in baseball are going to kind of peel back because I think we're finding, you know, especially in the injury front. The way we treat our pitchers now, somebody's getting Tommy John every other day. And it's like, oh, is this the real way of the world? You know, pitch counts and we can only go this amount of innings. We've got to baby them in the minor leagues, get to the big leagues, let's blow them out and we'll go get them draft another one. I think some things have got to change for this game. And it's very interesting. I was watching Smolte the other day as a teammate of mine in Atlanta. And he was really talking, you know, not to be off topic, but the injuries in the pitchers. And I do, I respect his intellect when it comes to pitching and how you prepare to pitch. Not only that he's a Hall of Fame guy, but just the ways of this game. So I think some things are going to change going forward. But to answer your question, in the longest way possible, I just did it. I don't really know how much the Yankees kind of say, no, we're going to put him in the two hole tonight, Aaron. I know you like him there, but we're going to put him. I don't know. I think it's a case case. I think Texas being the extreme on one side. And then, you know, the Tampa Bay Rays of the world being extreme in the other and then everybody else is kind of maybe the Rangers way is the right way that the champions tell the Yankees to do that. I'll tell you what, I would take all this data. Yeah, give it all to get rid of it. I'm the skipper. I make the decision. So I will. I go in or out. You fire me. You're going to do it my way. I love it. That's how it should be. All right, Brett. Always a pleasure. Look forward to the next time we have you on. We appreciate the few minutes. Thank you guys. That was all to see MLB insider Brett Boone insider calls are presented by Granger, what supplies and solutions for every industry Granger has the right product for you called click Granger dot com or just stop by. That was fun, right? That was good. First of all, Brett's course. I was not here last week. Brett was cool. Let's face it. Brett played ball. We asked a couple of tough ones about his brother and he didn't get him run from it. I thought that was really good. I think that's something we could react to. Yeah. Take your business further with the smart and flexible American Express business gold card. It offers flexible spending capacity that adapts to your business. You can also earn up to three hundred and ninety five dollars in annual statement credits on eligible purchases at select business merchants. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms apply. Learn more at american express dot com slash business gold card.
