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Turning 2 With Boonie: Olympics, Handling Emotions, Fatherhood & Mailbag!

Rich Herrera and Bret share their thoughts on MLB players not playing in the Olympics, when emotions get the best of you on the baseball diamond, the pressure on Bronny as he gets settled into his NBA career, how Bret himself balances fatherhood and the spotlight and we end the show with some mailbag questions!

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1h 10m
Broadcast on:
12 Jul 2024
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mp3

Rich Herrera and Bret share their thoughts on MLB players not playing in the Olympics, when emotions get the best of you on the baseball diamond, the pressure on Bronny as he gets settled into his NBA career, how Bret himself balances fatherhood and the spotlight and we end the show with some mailbag questions!

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Today, we stick him under the lights and shove a mic in his face. And I mean, we're flying through these treeline trails going a thousand miles an hour. He is CBS Sports Radio host and the executive producer of the Boon Podcast. Rich Herrera. I want to know about you guys. What was light like growing up around your dad while he was playing with you guys were younger? Now in its fourth year, this is the one and only Rhett Boon Podcast. Welcome everybody to 32 with Boney. I'm Rich Herrera, the executive producer of the Boon Podcast and a host of the Infinity Sports Network. That is Brett Boon, who is now a viral sensation. Boon, you had a tweet yesterday. Now you have hit. I'm sure everybody this. A tweet yesterday has now hit two million views. Yeah, I've never seen that. For me, I've seen it for other people. People like our mid-season report with Tyler Kepner. Yes. Kepner said he's a star. He's a star. I love it. What about me? And you? There you go. I just ride along for the show. That's right. All right. Let's get to turning to with Boney. We haven't done one of these in a little while. It's kind of looking. I've got all the stuff behind me. You've got all your stuff behind you. What do you have behind you? Do you have a Pac-12 logo or a big 10 now that it's official? Your University of Southern California has defected to with the Midwest. I've got to be in the college guy that I'm not. I just roll wherever S.E. goes. You know, I don't get caught up in the minutiae. I'm an S.E. guy. So wherever they go, I go. Always be a Pac-6 guy. Well, now, now you're a big 10 guy along with Aaron. Which feels weird. Yeah. Those big rivalries with the University of Southern California and Wisconsin. Yeah. Right. The only one who's happy is Aaron because that means USC will be going to Piscataway, New Jersey to take on Rutgers so he can see them in New York. Unbelievable. Does the S.E. All right. And you know, Rich, how much I'm not in to college football. Does S.E. still have the rival, the UCLA game and does S.E. still have the Notre Dame game? S.E. will still have the Notre Dame game. The Notre Dame S.E. has been a long time. Right. Okay. And then UCLA, USC will be there. But I'm not sure if it's going to be that last rivalry weekend. I have to look off the top of my head. I don't know when that game is. But yeah, you'll have those two and then you'll have action-packed games against Iowa, Wisconsin, and the rest of the big 10. So you're now an official big 10 guy along with Aaron. Right. And your daughter, right? Your dad, your dad now is part of the Atlantic Coast Conference. Your dad now, the Stanford Cardinal that he is, is an ACC man. And you know, the thing about it, my grandkids one day will grow up and they could care less because it's always been this way. And they won't know anything about the Pac-6, Pac or the Pac-12. I'll be like, oh, yeah, no, that's S.E. is a big 10 T. No, they won't know the difference. No, no, because Uncle Jacob will tell everybody, you know, these guys were okay, but I'm the only one who went to the Ivy League. So Jake, no matter what, always has that trump card. Yeah, but I think dad's got enough cash. Stanford, you almost have to count Stanford as an Ivy League. But Stanford, let's be honest. If we're just because I can't stand Stanford. And my dad's got a don't say that to John Lynch. I want him to come. Yeah, I don't really care. I've got a ton of friends from Stanford. I can't stand their snobs. You're saying your dad's a snob. Yeah, dad's a snob, you know, but if you're breaking it down, if you're looking for the ultimate university, that brings you everything. Right. Stanford's a top university in the country from a sports perspective and educational perspective, because it's an Ivy League. It's Ivy League. Right. But yet they have the ability to be national champions on the sporting side. If nobody has that, nobody has that except for Stanford. If you had the grades in the in the SAT scores, and the desire to attend class and study hard and play sports, and you had your choice between Stanford, the University of Southern California, or Princeton, where would you go in? I'm going to see. Tried and true. You know, do you know the song? Tried and true, because you know what I thought, Rich, when making my decision. I didn't think about the degree. This was my venue to play baseball. Right. Right. So I don't think it would have mattered. But now I'm going to stick with SC. Do you know the song? Fight on for all the seed. That is a great way to start the podcast. All right, let's get into this. I was going to bring something up for you. I don't know if you saw the headlines. Team USA is in Las Vegas this weekend. Basketball. Getting ready for the Paris Olympics. There's so many players that LeBron's playing. Is Bronnie on the team? Bronnie here in just a second. But let me ask you this. And we brought it up with Tyler Kepner about the All-Star game, and the Olympics, and the World Baseball Classic. So I'm going to just ask you a point blank. Why not follow the lead of the NBA, which is a sport that's on the Ascension, and showcased the greatest Major League Baseball players in the biggest stage in the world during the Olympics? Because baseball players are in mid-season. Okay. The NBA is not. Okay. This is the off season. Well, they just got done playing a long, long season. Now you're going to ask them. What are you going to do? You're going to ask, are you going to ask the LA Dodgers? Yeah, time out. We need that. We need some of your players for the Olympics. So just go about your way. No, what they'd have to do is stop the season. Shut it down. Shut it down for seven days. That doesn't work. I have an All-Star break this fall. I can't have the schedule. They have enough. They have a tough enough time getting. They have a tough enough time fitting with the new format in the postseason. They get a tough enough time fitting in the season to begin with. You had another seven day hiatus. There's no time to fit it in. Rich, I... No, no, I'm going to keep our point here. I'm going to keep our... I like your point. I think it would be good for the game. I think it would grow the game. I think it would be the best thing for baseball. But I think scheduling-wise, it doesn't fit because of where they're at in the season. Okay, so if I can shut the season down for four days, why can't they shut it down for seven? It's three extra days. I have a four-day All-Star break. Oh, you're saying that, well, well, now where are the All-Star is going to go? Because the All-Stars are going to be representing the... They're going to be the only... So why not every four years to spend the All-Star game for the year playing the Olympics, the biggest stage in the world? Listen, the world baseball classic is nice, but we're talking the Olympic games. We have people from every continent in the world paying attention to this. Why wouldn't you want to do that? So you're saying, every four years, you're going to change history now. Yeah. You're going to take away the All-Star game to add three more days on to a... Have you looked at the schedule? How long the postseason goes if it goes seven? And how early... We're talking the biggest stage in the world, not just North America, not just baseball playing countries. We're talking in the world. They watch this in China, they watch this in Russia, they watch this in Africa, they watch this in the Middle East, they watch it everywhere. I get it. I get it. It would take a little bit of sacrifice from some millionaires and some billionaires to help this game get bigger and bigger. Because... What's the sacrifice? Getting rid of the Olympic game, the season gets a little bit longer. But if you think about it, look how hard... It may be record-setting longest season to begin with, you're going to get it longer. Well, that's because it's the Del Rey Mi that's driving that. Without a doubt, I don't think for the record, players that play today, I think with the money that they're making should have zero complaints. Right. No, 100%. If that's not, and that's not, get off my lawn. And the thing is, when I was playing, we made good money. We made a lot of money. I'm not going to complain about that either. Not compared to these guys. They probably doubled the revenue since I retired 15 years ago. We're 16 years ago now, I think. But I've sat in those meetings, I've sat in those industry meetings where it's everybody from every front office in baseball that buds ceilings imploring us. Drive revenue, drive revenue, drive revenue. We will play games in London. We'll play games in Mexico. We'll play games in Korea. We'll play games in Japan because we want to grow the sport internationally. Why not do what basketball's doing? The NFL wants to grow this game globally as well. This is a perfect opportunity, but I just don't see anybody having any interest in doing something that seems pretty natural to me. I think baseball's different than all these other sports. It's every day. It's every day. That makes it awesome. It's 230 days a year. There's no other sports even close. I see what you're saying, because especially as I get older, in fan mode, I think they're doing a good job with the WBC. I think the way they start games oversees now. Yes, from a player's perspective, it's a big give. It's a bigger give than you think because of how you're in the middle of a season to completely disrupt you and be in three time zones over. That's a big deal for a major league baseball player, but I think it's really good for the game. You're getting to play games in places where baseball isn't even a big deal, but now all of a sudden it slowly becomes a big deal. I think they're doing a lot of real positive things for the game, but this playoff format, as much as it's not old school, it's really entertaining. I think you're starting to attract eyeballs to the game of baseball. Which the game needs, Brett, hold on, that's what the game needs. I mean, I think I told you this time. I agree with you. I agree with you. I'm switching over to football mode on my national show because that's where people's interests are. Imagine, you remember the last WBC? It was Mike Trout. It was versus, versus Shohei Otani versus Otani. That was a pretty big deal. You put that in Paris at the Olympics, and I'm going toe to toe with LeBron going up against Gianna Santa-Tacompo for a gold medal. I got Trout versus Otani. Could you imagine how big that would be for the game? But here's, okay, Rich, here's the thing though. You're saying it's a week, right? The Olympics are a week? Yeah, I mean, you don't have to take 30 teams, but you could do something where you have a quick round robin of seven, eight, nine teams because that's all that really plays baseball. Okay, if you're in Paris, that seven days going to turn into well with the flying and the travel. Sorry, you're going to have to make a little, you're going to have to make a little bit of an effort. You're going to have to, but you're going to have to turn that into nine or 10 days. I want you to reevaluate the schedule of Major League Baseball and show me where you can find 10 days. But if you could, but if you could, it would have to be the players, and I'm asking you as a player's perspective. Well, I hear, I've changed, I've kind of gone back and forth on this. Now I would do as a player, I would do, and I'll start with the most laymen of subjects. I remember back in the day when they first started to want to mic you up, when you went on the field, I thought I'm a ball player. You don't do that to me. But now thinking about it, well, well, I don't really care. I get tired of listening to myself talk. But from a fan perspective, did you talk to yourself on the field? No, no, no. I thought Brett was out of a conversation second, but when you're, when you're mic'd up, you know, I'm talking to my first baseman. I'm talking to how Morse, I'm talking to Johnny old route, I'm talking to my partner in the middle. For me, it that's boring, and that's just my job. But from a fan's perspective, I try to put myself in fan mode. So, okay, I'll go inside an NFL huddle. So those guys, they can care less about the huddle. They do it. That's all Tom Brady does, it's called age 47. It's boring to them. But for us, sitting on the outside, it's like, I want to listen what goes on in the huddle. I want to listen to him about the last play. So I get it. So now I think about from an entertainment value and drawing people to the game, tying them. If I'm going to wear a microphone and go to second base and they're going to see my interactions throughout the game where the old school baseball player and me was, I'm a ball player. You don't do this during the game. You don't disrupt me. Now I think absolutely you disrupt me. The reason I'm making the money that I'm making is because of things like this. So I would do anything as a player to grow the game. But you're not going to find 10 days for the Olympics. It doesn't exist. Hey, listen, it starts with a little bit of a, it starts with a little bit of an idea and then maybe Rob Manford, since 2 million people follow you on Twitter now, maybe Rob Manford will listen to this and say, Hey, that's a good idea. By the way, you know, this is the anniversary. I think today's the anniversary of Terry Collins. Do you remember TC when he snapped it? Was it? I can't remember who he's snapping up the umpire. We're in the jackpot. What do you do as a player when you're watching your manager yell scream and snap like that? Laugh. See, that's what I want to see. Lose out there, go and berserk. Oh, it's great. Lew especially. Right. But we're just all looking around. We just laugh. So Aaron's out there screaming. Right. All those guys are in there. They're in there. Well, it depends. Usually the subject probably is in trouble. Right. The guy that's pissed off about, you know, called their strike close play at home play, whatever. So that that individual's pissed. He's caught up in the moment. But just for the on looking for the onlookers, the guy's not involved in the play. Oh, we're cracking up. We're going, you know, I won't use Aaron. I'll use Luke as he was actually my skipper, who is the entertainment value off the charts. Maybe the most entertaining skipper in the history, you know, Earl Weaver is going to have a problem with that. But Lew is pretty damn entertaining. Right. And when he'd get on a, he'd get on a heater and he was out there. The eyes would go to, you know, my eyes would go to Booner, Booner eyes would go to it. And it would be like, Oh, here we go. And then we'd just watch. And it's almost like we're just going to pull up a seat because this we might, this might be a great one. And that's what you do. That's what you do. When it wouldn't somebody, I'm sure Aaron with his particular group of players that have been with them now for four or five, six years, they probably love it. Now, I was thinking this the other day. And it was when Kevin Mitchell was on, because again, I'm so excited. Kevin Mitchell listened to the podcast. What's up, Mitch? When people snap, I was thinking about this, because when you were talking to Kevin Mitchell, Kevin Mitchell is a scary dude. Like Kevin Mitchell could knock you out with one punch, right? That's how big Kevin Mitchell was. And I've seen guys snap. First of all, were you a good snap? Would you go in there and hit a garbage can or throw your glove or smash your bat after after something happened on the field? Absolutely. When I was young, I learned as an older player, not really, but once in a while, yes. But it wasn't on the daily basis. It wasn't on a weekly basis. I'd have a couple, maybe good snaps a year as a veteran player. So what do you do? You just get out of the way and just let them and let them go. What describe what happens when you snap? Because when I'm watching Terry Collins out there screaming, I mean, he looks homicidal out there. And then he just goes back to his office and, you know, 10 minutes later, it's over. Explain to people what a snap is and what it's like. Well, it's just something. I mean, it's not premeditated. It happens in the moment and you come off the field. And you know, when I knew my snaps weren't for going to be real. It's, I'd take my bat. I was so frustrated, whatever happened that a bat. And I would go to just break it in half against a wall. But right before I did it, I would flip it around so I had the barrel in my hands so I could snap the handle because that was less dangerous. So that wasn't so that I would check. I would check myself and I go the fact that I turned the bat around and not just reacted makes this a fake snap. So I'm going to stop right now and stop. You got to it's got to be in the moment. You're just so enraged. You lose your mind. Yeah, snap. That's what a real snap is. What is that like to lose your mind for that moment? You do it. And you got to be aware. I didn't, like I said, as a veteran player, I didn't very rarely would I do it. And when I did it, I would just go to the under the, through the dugout into a back corner. I wanted to be away from everybody. I didn't want to hurt anybody with flying objects. I just needed a good punching bag and sometimes a punching bag was a trash can. Sometimes it was just the wall, not with my hands, but with a, with an object. And I would just get the out of you. And then, you know, I could snap, go back in the dugout to be okay. It's over. But it's very, it was very rare for me as a young player. It was not a daily, but a weekly. I mean, I expected a young Brett Boone expected to get a hit every single at bat. And I remember some veteran players were like, Booney, this is the big leagues. We can't snap every at bat. I thought you're right. And I grew up a little bit like everybody does. And most veteran players, they've got to grip on it. You know, when you see a guy that's not known for that, you just kind of get out of his way, because you know, this isn't normal, but he obviously needs to vent right now, let him vent and move on to the next way. As long as it doesn't become a distraction, where you're that guy snapping all the time, you know, we're not in high school. We're not in college anymore. You just kind of learn that you learn to be a pro and you learn that, hey, live to play another day. And the first, I'll tell you this quick one and I'll get out. I was at USC, the son of Roland Heman, who is famous. Yeah, baseball executive, baseball executive with the Baltimore Orioles. His son was on my team at USC. And he was kind of an extra player. Good guy, smart as a whip. He'd have all the tendencies back then in 1988. He had tendencies. He was a data guy. And I remember one day, I hit a bullet somewhere for an out. And I was coming off the field and I threw, I went to just kind of throw my helmet, but I wasn't just flipping it in. I was throwing it. But, but I had some, some Manny Moda stick, which is the sticky stick that goes on to my bat. It was on my batting gloves and I had the helmet and I went to throw the helmet and the sticky stick held on. And instead of it going in a straight line, it was like, I hooked it left. Right. And I hit the human kid right in the head with my helmet. He went down. And that's when you feel like an idiot, like, Oh, because I've got to show the world that I'm upset about this, that I'm going to hurt another person. That's really when it really comes home to roost. And it kind of makes you think twice about being an idiot on the field, which I was a lot. What happened? Oh, he was fine. But imagine just looking at your teammate, you know, with blood running down his, because you, because you threw your helmet, because you were mad, because you were pounding. Could you feel dumber in that position? That was the first time. Well, no, he, I was apologetic as I could be. He knew I didn't mean to do it. Nobody was angry, but, but there was some looks of, look at this freshman. What do you do it? Oh, you're a freshman when you're doing this? I think so. Well, that's when I was in snap. I was in snap mode all the time. That's when, with that's when people kind of get sick of it as teammates, is that guy that snaps all the time. Right. And then once in a while, he'll be breaking something and something will fly off and hit someone in the ear, not necessarily hurting them. But it's like, come on, dude, it's over with enough, enough, enough. Like we've seen the, I think the most famous one that everybody's ever seen was Big Poppy, David Ortiz, smashing the bullpen phone. Right. You've seen the video of that. Right. But that that's a legitimate snap. But, but the thing is, when you start to be known for it, then it's a problem. David Ortiz wasn't known for it. No, exactly. Great player. And once in a while that had guys that didn't do it often, when they did it, I just get out of their way and let them go. Let them cook, baby. I think that's what the kids say. Let them go. Let them cook. I hope you took, uh, uh, heen into, uh, uh, to in and out or to, uh, Tommy's afterwards. I don't know where I took him. Who knows where I took him back then. I felt horrible. I know that. All right. Well, it's, uh, by the way, you want to, you brought up, uh, uh, U.S. Bob Bronney, uh, was he on the Olympic team? No. Uh, LeBron didn't get him a spot. I didn't get him on there, huh? No, but I did want to ask you, uh, some advice because we had touched on this last turning two. And I did a whole show on Bronney and being thrust into that spotlight, um, especially because there's questions on whether, um, he's a legitimate NBA player or not. And he got a, he got a NBA contract, not the, the two way, which in basketball, I could send you to play in the developmental league or and keep you and you can go on that, on that, uh, shuttle back and forth. He's, he's a laker for four years. Um, I was going to ask you, um, some advice because you've experienced on both, both sides, right? You were the son of a big leaguer and you had to earn your respect. 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If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call our text 1-800-Gambler. Terms and conditions apply. I just think, you know, I saw this and you've got a young kid was at USC a year ago. I think his father's doing him a big disservice. I think LeBron James is doing the biggest disservice you could do to a son is to obviously wield your influence to get him in a position. Like you said, and it goes beyond the contract of four years, but putting him in a spot where I'm far from a basketball expert, but every- Just as a dad and a life and a professional athlete. I think to put that on your son, especially when you're potentially the goat, you're definitely in the conversation of the greatest of all time. That's enough hanging over your head as a kid coming up. Man, try walking in those shoes. You know, I had tough shoes to walk in. My dad and grandpa to follow, but that's nothing like walking in the greatest of all times, you know, try walking in Babe Ruth's son's shoes. You know, you couldn't imagine that. And then to be thrusted in this position where he was a freshman last year and he averaged four points coming off the bench for USC, which is far from a powerhouse in the basket. It will be now though, because they've got a new coach. But to be kind of like, hey, declare for the draft. So what you're telling me is he's the 55th best amateur in the world. The thing that was sad to me is this, I saw, and this is not, I don't want to get personal with him. It's just the situation. Sports is sports. You can't have daddy's influence get you in a position because the talent at the highest level will run you over. It's not like other industries where dad calls in a favor and you get a job. The top level, the NBA, the NFL, NHL pick it, anyone you want, you can't fake the top level. The competition will crush you. I think he needed, and this is coming from guys that I respect. I watch in the industry. I'm not a basketball expert. Don't blame to me. But nobody has said he is ready to go to the NBA. Nobody I've heard say that's an NBA prospect. And the fact that I saw him doing an interview the other day and he said, hey, it's the NBA. They don't just draft people because of who my father is. I'm thinking, could you be more self-unaware? Of course, that's the only reason. The amount of resentment he's going to witness, not only from his teammates, but by guys on the other team, by just his peers, guys he's leaving in college. Imagine how they look at him right now. Oh, daddy gets you. I couldn't imagine it. I think Rich, we've talked about it, but I had a small, not on the same scale. It was my first spring training. I was in minor league camp. My father was 42 years old. He's trying to play one more year. He signed with the Seattle Mariners. The year was 1991. It was in spring training, I got a phone call and they said, Brett, I'll tell you what we want to do. We want to bring you up for minor league camp playing the big league game. Your dad's going to catch. We think it's going to be great. I hated the idea. I thought it was a circus. I knew that after that big league game, because getting called up when you're in minor league camp, getting called up to a big league game, that's a big deal. You earned that. I mean, guys start looking at you like, wow, we got to go to big league camp. If I would have taken that invitation, gone to big league camp, I'd have come back down to a ball and they'd be like, oh, yeah, big leaguer, you get to go up because of your daddy. I couldn't imagine facing that. And I didn't want any part of it. I said, and my dad agreed with me. I said, it's a circus. This isn't a, this isn't a circus. This is what I'm trying to do for a living. One day, when I earn the right, I will be on that big league field. But I'm not going to go up there to just say, I played with my dad when it wasn't legitimate. So I can't imagine. I mean, that was me, the kid wanting no part of it. And I couldn't imagine being the kid wanting every part of it. I don't understand it. Do you regret that at all? Absolutely not. You don't regret not being on the field with your dad in uniform playing with them? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. It wasn't legitimate. It wasn't real. It was, it was, it was a staged, that would have been a movie. Oh, look, when I watch Ken Griffey, senior and Ken Griffey, junior in the big league outfield, and they have that clip, they went back to back. Right. They have that clip of Ken, junior catching the ball in front of Ken, senior. That's unbelievable. Because that's legit. That's legit. Nobody says, oh, they just signed Kenny. Maybe they signed Kenny to play with his son, but at the same time, he was still a big league player. He was coming off a year where it warranted playing another year in the big leagues. Right. It wasn't fabricated at all. It was a legit Ken Griffey senior, really good player in his own right, long career, big red machine, great career. Great career. Ken Griffey junior, Hall of Famer. Right. But the fact that they played together was above board. Everything was right. Yeah. Maybe you signed. Now, if I was in the big leagues and we found a way, my dad's last year to get a trade to my team, it doesn't matter. He's still a big lager. I'm a big lager. That's legitimate. That would be cool. But to the way they wanted me to do it, I had no rights being on a big league field at that time. I hadn't earned it yet. The resentment. I know that you got tired of the media asking you every place you ever went. What's it like to be the potential to be the first third generation? And I know you've told me before that it got old after a while and you didn't want to talk about your grandpa. You didn't want to talk about your dad. You wanted to be your own man. We've never actually talked about the resentment. Were there resentment? Did people try you? Oh, look at this bone kid. He got drafted. He's here just because of his daddy. Did you face any resentment? Did people try you a little bit? When I was young. Yeah, when you were young, that's what I'm talking about. So you talk, hold on a second. You talked about Bronnie. If I'm playing in the summer league right now, I'm going to go make a name for myself by dunking over the top of the kid. I'm going to take it to the kid and embarrass. I'm going to break his ankles so I can get some of this club that he's getting. So did you face any of that when you were young? Not at the minor league level, because baseball is, you get drafted and you're in the minor leagues. Your talent speaks for itself. So there's no favors once you get to professional baseball. Daddy has nothing to do with anything. So I didn't feel it at that level. I felt it when I was a kid, you know, when I was a little leaguer, when I was a little league all-star team and ponyball. Oh, that's Bob Boone's son. You know, there was resentment from other kids. I didn't really care. Because I'm just going to steamroll you. I didn't care. That didn't hurt. That didn't hurt my feelings. Did it add to your fire? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if some snotty-nose kid could really add to my fire. You put a chip on your shoulder? I mean, listen, you come, so you're playing, I can't remember, where'd you play high school? El Dorado. El Dorado. I knew it was an El. You're at El Dorado. You're going to go take on modern day. I'm sure you heard the cat calls, oh, hey, big leaguer, come on. Hey, look, there's booty's kid, go down. Not so much. Once you establish yourself as a high school, really good varsity player, it's kind of that doesn't work anymore, like because it's legit. Everybody knows it. So it's not as, you're not going to hear that. Maybe right before high school, like you're on that pony team and, oh, it's Bob Boud's son. Oh, that's why he's on the All-Star team. I heard that my whole life growing up as a little kid. Once you start to get to high school and you start to earn it, nobody really cares who your dad is. Once you got to the minor leagues and you're putting numbers up, in my case, yes, because it was the storyline it had never been done before, so as a reporter, of course they've got to cover that. I just resented it because I wanted them to cover what I was doing on the field, why I was going to double from able to double A in one year, why I was in triple A and on the cusp being being called to the big leagues, had nothing to do with grandpa, had nothing to do with dad, had to do what I was doing on the field. But I also understood from a media standpoint, they have to cover this because it is a story. So I got it, doesn't mean at times I didn't get a little frustrated with the coverage. Can we pull the curtain back a little bit on the Boone family? I don't care. Okay. So we see this with professional athletes and people, you know, Dion Sanders has his kids playing for him. LeBron's going to play with his son, but I've seen some really great professional athletes. I think of the late Bill Walton, who's a friend of this podcast came on with this, an amazing human being. And I remember him with Luke, when Luke decided to go to the University of Arizona, Bill would show up and he'd sit in the student section. And you'd see all these, you know, five foot two, blonde hair, blue-eyed co-eds, and then right in the middle of him is a seven foot redhead sticking up above everybody else in the zone of zoo. And I just remember how supportive he was, but it wasn't like he was living his dream vicariously through Luke. He had already accomplished so much in life. And I see so, and you know, sometimes I've probably been guilty of this trying to live my life vicariously through my son, which is something a father shouldn't do. But go through this for a little bit, for us, for all the families out there, their kids are playing travel ball. Maybe their kids are playing football and the dad wants so bad to help him. You have it with Jake. Jake's playing minor league baseball. And I see you being supportive, but not living your life vicariously through him. Give some advice to folks that have kids that are playing on where the line is, because I didn't go well and have that line. Other dads like myself fail miserably at it. The way I am with Jake, and I try to make myself invisible whenever I'm with him. I speak when I'm spoken to, I give advice when I'm asked. I pick and choose my times. Timing is really important. But I learned all this from my father. My dad was as great of an example as I could imagine growing up, how he made himself invisible. You know, when I was growing up, because my dad played a long time in the big leagues, he had me at a young age. So my entire childhood and young adult life was my dad was a big league baseball player. So he was always recognizable. And if my dad was at one of my games, he was probably watching my game before he had to go to his game. And he always, he was never that guy, never had something to say, never brought attention to himself, would watch me play, would slowly sneak out of the arena wherever we were, sneak away from the ballpark. And depending on where I was, how I was doing, was I playing well, was I struggling a little bit, that discussion would come probably the next day. And he would come up to me saying, Hey, how are you feeling? What do you think about those a batch yesterday? That's how it was brought to me. And whether it was good or bad, I'd have an answer for him, and we'd have a discussion. Never put any pressure on me. I never felt like I had to live up to anything. It was the game of baseball was exposed to me at a young age. And I hear my dad through the years, he did interviews, he said, you know, I, I gave him the platform. I took him to the ballpark. I showed him the game of baseball. And if he loved it, that's awesome. And if he didn't, I'd support him in whatever he chose. I took that took that on as a parent. And from my daughter, who's my oldest to my three sons, it's basically, yeah, I hope here's baseball. I hope you love it. And I hope you pursue it. But if not, everybody can't be a big league baseball player. So whatever you do, I'm going to be there and support it. But whatever you do, do it to the best of your ability. I always had that from my dad. Never. It's crazy because I never felt an ounce to this day. I've never felt an ounce of pressure to live up to anything in the family. Because that's my parents took that off me. They didn't make me feel that way. My grandpa didn't make me feel that way. And maybe my personality had something to do with it too. Because I was, I had blinders on it. I didn't really give it, give a crap what anybody had to say. I was going forward, get out of my way. So I think personalities come into it too. How you're born, genetics, how you think God gave you a certain kind of a brain. Well, my brain was, I don't give a shit, get out of my way brain. So it sounds like your dad loved you more than he loved baseball. Yeah, he was great. He was a tremendous example. Maybe that should be an example for parents, especially, you know, you've seen travel league. I mean, I see dads out there. I see AAU coaches. I see seven on seven. Well, I was, I did it. You know, I coached travel ball for years. And I saw it up close. It's like, you guys are crazy. I'd rather pick the parents over the players. Let Johnny be a little lager that, you know, let him have it. I say it all the time. Let him go get his pretzel, his hot dog, go roller skating, whatever the kids do. Let him go chase girls. Let him be a kid. Little Johnny is not going to the big leagues. Let me tell you that right now. You mean, wait a minute, Brett, because again, you're two million people have seen you on on X in the last 24 hours. I also see about two million people that have every goofy, crazy drill in baseball that's going to make little Johnny a big league. I hate to say it, but you are born a big lager. You are wired a certain way. And all the coaching, all the drills, curricular activities, equipment, eight travel ball teams, and you got the greatest bat. Right. If you're not a big lager, you're not a big lager. It doesn't matter. Right. And that being said, if you are born with a ridiculous amount of talent, it doesn't matter how much you don't play baseball. If Ken Griffey Jr. didn't pick up a baseball bat till he was 18 years old, he would still be Ken Griffey Jr. That's just the way it is. Okay. I'm not saying these. I don't want to be that guy that blows back on all the the travel ball teams and stuff. Every kid doesn't have to play baseball because they want to be big lagers. Right. Some kids just want to play baseball because they love baseball. I rather play baseball. There's nothing wrong. There's nothing wrong with getting instruction, going to camps to be the best you can be. There's nothing wrong with that. Be the best version of yourself you can be. Right. You know, I love basketball growing up, Rich. The writing was kind of on the wall that I wasn't going to be an NBA player. But probably instructions could have made me the best player I could be. It doesn't have to be NBA. And if we took the perspective of, I just want him to be the best player he can be for his skill set, well, then there's nothing wrong with that. But I don't think that's the motivation behind it is the selling that they're selling the dream of come with me. I'll turn you into a division one player. I'll turn you into a pro ball player. I'll turn you into a big lager. And that just ain't so. You're either a big lager or you're not a big lager. You don't take a non big lager and turn him into what? It's impossible. All right. Flip side of that, Brett. Flip side of that. If I, if I had Ken Griffey Jr. as a kid, could I ruin him and keep him from being a big lager? There's a guy, the most talented athlete you've ever played with. For sure. I'm sure Ken Griffey Sr. took kind of the perspective that my dad took hands off. Okay. Let me, let me, let me restate this. Can I take someone who has potential to be a big lager and ruin them by being a bad influence, making them play too much, overplaying them, burning them out, burning them out, burning them out without a doubt, making, making it your will, not his, telling him, this is what I want you to do. Cause I see this in you. Go, go, go. When that's not the kids, that's, that's not his passion. Right. First of all, for 99% of us, you got to be born a certain way. And you got to have a passion for your, for what you're going after. If you don't have the passion, you'll get run over by somebody with equal talent that has the passion. Right. Like I said, 99% of us, the griffies of the world. Okay. Even if he wasn't passionate about it, he could still be as good as we were. Right. He doesn't have to, if LeBron James wasn't passionate about basketball, he'd still be better than most people because he's just that talented. So I'm talking about just the rest of us. You need to be passionate where you got no chance. Okay. Let's get forced. You can't force passion on, on a kid. All right. Let's move on. Cause this has been fast. Anybody got a bunch of stuff I wanted to get to. Um, I'm going to skip the home runner where you talk about that later. All star game jerseys this year. Last year's were pretty good looking in Seattle this year. They're kind of a, of a sure birdie color. All star game jerseys and uniforms for the game. Are they boon approved? Do you like the fact that we haven't seen? Yeah, I haven't seen them. No, I approve them. You know, I'm, I'm, I'm generic, American league jersey. Things are growing on me now. I'm thinking about, you're getting soft. I'm thinking, no, I'm thinking about the good of the game. What grows of the game. Uh, all these outrageous uniforms, the guys are wearing black uniform, black pants and crazy colored uniforms. And I kind of like them. They really bring it. They bring in that guy. I went to Cincinnati. I had to throw out a first pitch early in the season and rich. They gave me a Cincinnati city connect. I thought it was the coolest jersey out there. I'm like, really? Great. As a player, I hated wearing alternate jerseys, hated it. I like the home whites. And I like the visiting grace. That's the way we were. But I'm kind of given into this new Pittsburgh Pirates of the 70s have seven different outfits. I kind of like it because I think it grows the game. I think it gives a lot of attention to the game. And I think it's good. So whatever route they're going with, I never pay attention to the uniforms. Yes. I'm from my generation where we were our uniform. We put the, we put the all star game logo patch and that's how we rocked it. Wow. I never would have. It's 2024 now. Yeah. Let them go. Bright colors, crazy unis. All the guys are wearing crazy things. Anyway, white spikes. They've got orange and fluorescent elbow pads. Why not? Doesn't matter. It's what it is. What are some of your favorite, favorite alternative jerseys? Couple teams you like. Cincinnati. Okay. That's my favorite. I love that jersey. I got it. I got it hanging in my closet. Do you really? Wow. I never would have thought that about you. I mean, I like the New York Mets alternative jersey. I thought I haven't got, I haven't gotten into really looking at. I know. You're not. You're not a fast. You know what I'm talking about. I hate it. We went to, when I was at, when I was in college, I played on the USA team, went and played Cuba. And they had these black pants. I'm like, what baseball player has black pants? You know, you always have white pants. Some teams might have a black top, but they had these black pants. And I thought, that's not how baseball is. You don't wear black pants. I'm why I watched the Seattle Mariner games with the black. I think I think they're awesome. I dig them. Now, would I have liked them as a player? I don't know. But as a fan, I kind of, I kind of, I don't know, maybe I'm getting old and I'm getting soft. But I think you want to, I think you are getting old. I kind of like them. I think they're hip. I think they're hip for today's game. And just the way our world is today, I think these unis are cool. Whereas I think as a, as a, when I put me in my playing days, I think I would have thumbed my nose at it. Okay, I'm going to give you 30 now, give me 45 seconds. Okay, start the clock. 45 seconds, because everybody's going to want to ask you this question. You anywhere you go out in the country, somebody runs into to Brett Boone, they're going to go, Hey, Brett, what the hell's wrong with the Yankees? You got 45 seconds go. Nothing's wrong. These streaks happen as hot as they were. They're as cold as they've been. They went there for now, they're six and 14, their last 20 games. Giancarlo Stanton needs to be back in the lineup. They need to bolster that bullpen on paper. Their number three, ERA wise out of the bullpen, but they need to bolster that bullpen. Cole still in spring training. He's going to be fine. They need to get healthy. If they get healthy, they will be a factor going into the postseason. This is a really good team. This is a top five team in baseball. I think I did it under 45 seconds. I'm very impressed with your professional broadcaster now. All right, real quick, as we record this, it's 7/11 day. You know what that is? What's that? No. That means you could take any size receptacle you want into 7/11 and get as much slurpee as you can in a car. Really? Wow. So I know you won't be doing that because you eat healthy all the time. But if I had a 7/11 day where Booneie could go in a convenience store with the biggest shopping bag, garbage pail, what would you go clean out of a convenience store today? Looking for a financial institution that has fewer fees, better rates, and gives back to the local community? 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That's not a convenience store. Okay, I would go. Like Circle K, 7-Eleven, pigly, ugly, pockeys, convenience store. Oh, I got you. I got you. And I gave you a big old bag. I gave you a travel duffel bag. You know what? You remember your dad's old army bag? Yeah. You're the green army bag your dad had. I give you that. You get to go clean out the store. One thing. What would it be? I'm going to wall. I'm going to take the deli out. As much deli as I can get. That's good. I never heard a thought of that. Yeah, you got to go to the Wawa. Get the cold cuts. Preferably in New Jersey, Wawa. What if you want to go one deeper? I wasn't going to say that, but I'd go to Cumberland Farms too. They get the same stuff, but not everybody listening to this podcast going to know what Cumberland Farms is. Well, I don't think West would know Wawa was. Wawa was a public since Florida. Wawa was like a circle K with a huge gigantic just better. Great deli in it, right? Just better. With this great deli. And yeah, they make a pepperoni sandwich. Yeah, it's a back East thing. Yeah. Well, they haven't been Florida too. Well, it was my it was my as a kid. Really? It's my place. Wawa. Well, I grew up in Jersey, and where do you go? Go to the frickin Wawa. That's what you do. If you go to the candy rack, I thought you'd go to the candy rack. If you go to the candy rack, what are you cleaning up? I'm getting the cinnamon bears from my new hot commodity. You know, I'm a hot tamale guy. I'm a sweet tart in the roll guy, but I'm a cinnamon bear all the way. I'm a cinnamon bear connoisseur. Connoisseur. And I have certain spots around town I go to, and they seem to be out of them a lot, and I say, dude, does anybody else buy these except for me? No, you're the only one. I said, well, why are you out? Well, you bought 10 bags in the last 10 days. You're like Moonlight Graham. Yeah, the store owners knew if they put a blue hat in the store window that Moonlight Graham would go buy it and fill the dream. So anybody in San Diego or the greater Southern California area, just tell Brett you've got cinnamon bears and he will be running to your store. That's awesome. All right, mailbag time. By the way, I will just tell everybody, the mailbag has been blowing up. I want to thank everybody for sending us emails. The email address is Brett Boone 10 at Yahoo.com. By the way, we've been getting a lot of mailbags. Make sure if you want me to send you the card card, you got to leave an address if we use your mailbag question. So I'm going to use them all so you have to send a bunch of cards on me. Some of you guys don't leave the address. But in the. This email goes straight to Brett. So it's not like you're sending it to me or we have interns or straight. You got a pretty you got at least pretend that I have people that coordinate all this. Oh, it goes through an algorithm. And then we have 17 assistants that look at it before. All right, here's my daughter, my daughter might go through it. All right. Here's the first thing. Hi, Brett. I've been listening to the beginning of the podcast since the beginning of the podcast never disappoints. The turning to feature has been a great addition. Oh, I agree with that. Well, that's the only reason Rich is reading this, by the way, whoever gets a signed card, it's because of Rich, you know, he likes to make himself feel good. Go ahead. I've been I've been racking my brain for weeks to come up with an autograph worthy question. Here's five. Thanks for you came up with five of them. Baseball is the aim of adjustments. So why do most teams continue to stick with front office analytic approaches, i.e., not bunting to get on base or move a runner? Wouldn't they want to adjust to the situation or try something unexpected rather than continue with the front office version? And versus your gut, right? I think we're in a generation where we've gone from one side from strictly gut to now strictly analytical across the board. And I think you're going to see a self correction in the coming years. There's got to be there's got to be a correction, you know, and it's going to be part for a manager's gut. Guts are what separate the good managers from the great managers when it's crunch times and every analytics in the world says one thing and you have the gall to go with the other because you know it's the right and you end up being correct. That's what greatness is. And you still got to have that. All right, let me I'm going to do this real quick because she has five questions for you. If given the opportunity, would you want to be a coach on the Yankees and work with your brother? If so, insight might you offer to Aaron? I would remember it. I'm not a very good number to rich. There's certain people in this game, there's certain people in this game I would do it. I have no I have no real interest in being a coach. Manager, yes. And one day I might manage. But for certain men out there, I would work on their staff, be a bench coach type situation. I don't know, Aaron and I have had discussions about it. And the New York Yankees is Aaron's thing. It's not the Aaron and Brett Ting. Never has been. Aaron's the skipper. I have nothing to do with the New York Yankees. And I think from a family standpoint, from just how it looks in the outside, I think it's for the best. But if crunch time was there, Uncle Aaron called me, he needed me there. Absolutely. I'd be there for my said younger brother. Why don't general managers listen to retired players opinions on things like training methods in the eye test. So, you know, we've had on Tommy John. Tommy said, hey, nobody ever calls me and asked me about Tommy John surgery. How come nobody listens to former players, Brett? Because it's just the people that are in the game right now. It is analytical. They're basing everything on science. You know, we know how the science thing across the world has been going. I think it's just in a phase of the game where it's gone one way so much. It all goes back to injuries for me, Rich. And John Smoltz, the ex teammate of mine, I saw an interview of him the other day and he was talking about how whatever they're doing, how they're preparing, how these pitchers today are preparing to be big league players is not working. There's a Tommy John surgery every other day, it seems like, whatever they're doing, cranking these guys out of the draft, throw as hard as you can. We're going to monitor you in the minor leagues, baby you. We're going to get you to the big leagues and go as hard and as fast as you can for as long when you break it. Tommy John will get another player. That is not working. I think at this stage of the game, pitch counts aren't working. However, you're preparing in between starts is not working. Something needs to change. Look back. Okay. And I don't here's a get off my lawn moment. Nolan Ryan. Okay, we're going to go back 30 years. How often did Nolan Ryan get hurt? How often did Randy Johnson throw in a hundred miles an hour, throwing 130 pitches was normal and he was healthy. He didn't miss starts. Guys didn't miss starts pounding it. Roger Clemens didn't get hurt very often throwing a hundred and pitching the way he did. So while the sudden are we different? Is the is the human arm different now? I don't understand it. I'll never understand it. Look at history. Look at what work to stay healthy first and foremost. What keeps me healthy keeps me on the field. We might want to go with that food. We might want to go with that way. I think it's like I said, I think there's a big correcting stage coming up in the game of baseball. All right, let me get just one more question. This by the way, this is from Lisa. What's the favorite autograph that you have in your collection? You're not a big autograph guy, are you? I'm not an autograph guy. I've got a Babe Ruth ball. You do? That's that's pretty cool. Oh, oh, I don't really have a lot of autographs. I just have Babe Ruth. Well, I got grandpa. Grandpa left me that. Really? Okay. See, that means more. That means more because it was Ray's Babe Ruth autograph baseball that he left you that now that's special. Yeah. And, you know, I have a few memorabilia items that are really cool. My grandpa's glove. I've got that. Okay. That's really cool. Um, behind you, you have, do you have one of your dad's gold gloves? I got, yeah. One of my dad's gold gloves up there. Right. But that's not mine. But that's just dad's got seven. So he let me borrow one. Oh, so it's almost like I'm catching up. It's on loan. It's on loan. Yeah, it's on loan. That's that's dad's. Do you have any, do you have any Aaron Boone? Um, memorabilia? Yeah, I got Aaron. Um, I've got a shadow box that's got, you know, my grandpa and my dad's and myself and Aaron's uniform and gloves and bats and spikes. And yeah, I've got a lot, I've got a lot of, I got a lot of family stuff. All right. I see. I don't have any families. I got, that's Willie May's bat behind me. Very cool. Is it a little bad or just a Willie May's autograph autograph? No, it's not one of his games. Not a game used. No. That's as close as I get to perfection. Anyway, those are all from Lisa. Lisa. Thank you very much. Brett will be sending you a autograph baseball card. All right. You promise? I promise. Don't let her down. Cause if not, we haven't done one of these for a couple of weeks, but you get, you put something out there last time. I forget what it was, but I said, I'll sign five and I forget what the question it was different. It was your favorite. Yeah. Right. It was different. I don't know. Okay. So let me, here's the next one. This is from Bud in South Dakota. You stated several times how bonds was playing softball while the rest of Major League Baseball is playing baseball. What about Maguire? What's the difference there that you didn't bring that you didn't bring him up? What made bonds so much better than Big Mac? Mac from a power perspective, I've never seen anything like it. He was kind of heads and tails above just the sheer velocity that he hit the ball and how far the ball actually went. Unbelievable to watch Big Mac, but Big Mac could be pitched to. Barry Bonds in those years, in the early 2000s, you couldn't pitch to him. You couldn't throw him a strike where it was going to be a home run. You could pitch to Big Mac. Big Mac, as he got older, in his, you know, '98, '99, he wasn't just a power hitter. He was a good hitter, but not a good hitter like Bonds was in his final years. I've never seen anything like it. This is from Kelly in Orchard Park, New York. Go Bills. All the Bills Mafia got mad when you last week on the radio. What's your favorite, funniest memory from a rain delay, Major or minor league? I hate to disappoint you here. I've really gotten on. Come on, just make one up. Yeah, the rain delays. I don't have one. I don't have one. You know what rain delays were for me, Rich? And this is back when the rules were the other way. It's what was the score of the game? When was the rain delay? Am I over three or over two or am I two for two? Because if this thing gets washed out and we don't have the correct amount of innings in, the stats get washed out too. That's what was the rain delay in my day. Now they keep all the stats. Once you start a game, they keep all the stats where they got to pick them up. But back then, it wasn't like that. Well, would you do during the rain delay? Would you go take an app and go eat? Would you sit in the dugout? All of the above. You'd go around, is it going to rain? You look at Doppler. They'd have people coming in talking to you. You go to the field now, still pouring. Okay, you get a guy coming in. All right, it looks like the storm is going to pass in 15 minutes. It's going to start preparing the field. Then you come back in. Nope, we got another one coming. So as a constant, just listening to people, what do we do? Trying to get an idea of, all right, I've got my thing that I go through before the game. I've got a process. I've got checkpoints. I just, as a player, I just want to know, okay, let me know when I have 20 minutes before I got to be back on the field so I can go through my process again. That's all we want. Did you love a rain out? Or are you mad when there was a rain out? Depends how we were doing, team was doing, how I was doing at the plate. Sometimes a nice day off is nice. Yeah, I never pull for a radio. Go ahead. All right, here's the last one. This is from Brandon Brandon in Yakima, Brett in a nutshell. There's a lot of work involved in being a pro athlete that the fans don't see on TV, tons and tons of tons of stuff behind the scenes. And the finished product is what we see on the field of play. What do you think is the, what do you think is hard? What do you think is the harder part of competing at the highest level, staying competitive enough at the highest level to stick around or just staying healthy? I was lucky enough. Health wasn't an issue for me. You know, I was with today, they call the IEL, the DL in my day. I went on it, I think twice in my career. So I was relatively healthy. Easiest thing to do as a professional baseball players get to the big leagues, toughest thing to do is to stay in the big leagues. I don't think people appreciate that. Yeah. The easiest thing for me was getting to the big leagues. And then the toughest thing was six weeks later going, this isn't AAA. This is a different level. Now I've got to make an adjustment. How am I going to stick around and make a career out of this? I got to find a way. All the work you put into your whole life, repetition, that's what it comes down to, repetition. Give and take, finding something. Does this work? Does that work? Oh, this feels great in the cage. Let's take this into the game. Oops. That doesn't work back to the drawing board. That's how we learn in this game. When I got there to the big leagues, I thought it was going to be easy from the get go. And it wasn't. I got knocked down pretty hard. And I started to reach it out. Now I remember Edgar Martinez. This is, Edgar had so many great things that he imposed on me. But I remember in his way, only Edgar could say it at that six weeks, I was hitting 197. And in his funny, broken English accent way, he used to come up to me and say, Hey, boo, you're going to have to learn how to start hitting the breaking pitch. And he meant it with all the best intentions. But it was just so funny how he said it. And he was right. He was right. I had to make an adjustment. I started to start pounding some breaking balls to get to what I wanted the fastball. So little things like that. And that was the first moment of humble pie for me at the big league level. And you know, then I had a couple of great years in man back then the 96 and 97. I'm looking at the ceiling at night going, what happened? I can't hit anymore. And you know, I constant adjustment and man, a lot of sleepless nights. But in the end, you did okay. And that's what it made it. That's what made it rewarding is how hard it really is. You did okay. All right, Rich, thanks. Are we done? We've been going for a long time. This has been one of the podcast we've had in a while. Listen, I got to tell everybody, we appreciate you listening to the podcast. We thank you for listening to the podcast. Everybody who sent us an email, you'll be getting an autographed Brent Boone baseball card. 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