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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Kevin Mitchell and Will Clark. I'm happy to welcome back a friend and a teammate of mine to the podcast. 1989 NL most valuable players. Remember the Giants wall of fame and always fun catching up with this guy. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Kevin Mitchell to the program. Kevin. What's up, Bonie Bownd? Thanks for coming on, man. All right. Recently, Giants lost two of their legends. Obviously, we heard a few weeks back the passing of the Great Willie Mays. And then right on top of that, we lose Orlando Cepeda, the little bull. Our guest, Kev, you knew both of them very well. Tough stretch for the Giants right now. Real tough, man. Real tough. Let me cut this off. Yeah, it was a real tough stretch for them, man. It's just surprising that what Cepeda, that next one, that's really hard too. But I knew he was kind of sick, but I didn't know it was that close for him for something like this to happen to him, man. It's just a shock to baseball and a shock to people that really knew both of them, man. It's a big part of our life when we was with San Francisco, man. It was always good to see him every day and spend time with him. So, but it's like I said, man, it's a big blow to the people that really knew him. Yeah, we got the celebration of life coming up for Willie. And then the baby bull, and you know them both a lot better than I do. But I remember, I saw Cepeda a year ago at the All-Star game. And man, he seemed like a sweetheart of a man. And I sat down and I got to talk to him for about 20, 25 minutes. I remember I sat down. The first thing he said to me, he said, "Brett Boone," he said, "I love your grandpa." And he goes, "I used to see Ray Boone and San Diego all the time where, that's where Mitch is from, San Diego. Grandpa was born and raised here. But any time Mitch, as life goes on and we get a little bit older, you start to appreciate things that you didn't appreciate when you were young. I appreciate the heck out of my time that I got to spend with my grandpa. And any time I get to sit down with a player that was from his generation in some capacity, got to see him, got to know him, got to play against him. I'm always curious, like, "Hey, tell me more about what it was really like." And it was sitting down with the baby bull and talking about grants for a while and talking about the game in general. It was really cool. So I saw that, you know, I didn't know if he was sick, how sick he'd been. And to see him pass right on top of Willie Mays. You know, it's a sad time, but these are two great players. And I think as we talked off-camera, you know, you turn it from a death to a celebration of life and what they brought and how much joy they brought and how big of an impact they had on our great game of baseball. Talking about Willie, I got to meet Willie one time at Candlestick Park as we come in from the right field bleachers. I remember he had big hands. I remember that. That's one thing he had, man. He got some big old hands and he had put them on you. Yeah. And I remember Mitch, there's not too many people. When we go out before a game, and I try to explain that to people, as current players, there's not too many people. We're trying to get our work in. We got BP, whatever we got. So you usually don't. If somebody's there, you don't make it a point to go and meet people. They usually meet the current players. But I'll tell you, Willie Mays is different. Yeah, he's evil. And I remember waiting in line to meet him with a couple other of my teammates when I was with the Reds. And it was like, hey, Willie's over there. And my first thought is, okay, I got BP to hit. Wait a minute, Willie Mays, that's different. And I remember there were two guys ahead of me just going to shake his hand and say, and kind of say hi. And I sat there for about a minute. And I finally, you know, went and shook Willie's hand and told him, you know, what an honor it was to meet him. But there's not too many guys you do that for. Willie was in a special, special, special handful of players that had an impact, that not too many have. And he was very special, Bonie. I'll tell you, he was the type of person that he didn't feel like he was famous or anything else. He just hung out every day. He come to the ballpark. He put all his stuff in my locker and just, I come to the ballpark. He's there before me. He got his shoes in there, his little boots. And he just, uh, just wanted a guy, his man, and he fitted it. We fitted him to him. And I was very thankful to have his locker too, man. I didn't even know that until it was later on, until he was coming in, throwing his stuff in my locker every day. I want to talk about the man, and then there's the legend side of Willie Mays. And then the personal relationship you had, you had with him. And I know he had a big influence on a young Kevin Mitchell. Tell me, tell me about those three things. Bonie, um, he didn't, I mean, he didn't have to take me in. You know, he was that type of person, man. He always had a smile on his face. And, and I treated him, he treated me like I was one of his family, man. You know, when he first took me in and taught me how to play the outfield, because, you know, I came up as infielder. And right away, we hit it off. And we, I mean, we talk crazy to each other. We cuss each other. We did everything that, uh, that was possible to each other, man. And, uh, like, like Will said, the one day I was talking crazy to him, talking, he couldn't hit. He's 57 years old. This man hitting balls over the center field wall. You know, there was nothing else I could say about more than what, when I saw that, you know, uh, because a lot of times, a lot of, you know, as younger guys didn't really get the scene play. So, but it was a mentor to me, man. And he, and even to this day, we were still talking. I was still going up the scene a lot. And, uh, and it hit me under the belt when this happened. You know, it, it's interesting you say that. I want to talk about how, how freaky he was. And I, and I mean freaky in a, in a, in a good way. Yeah, I know, Judge, I understand. There, there's certain, there's certain player and Mitch. We could sit there. We watched players from like the 1950s and the 60s and the way they moved. And, and the first thing we think is how the hell could that swing play today? But I'll tell you what, Willie Mays, he was different. It's like he moved different. There's certain guys, I remember watching a video, I, I just recently watched a video of Honus Wagner, and this is from like 1921, but I watched the way he moved and how fast he was just different than every other player of that generation. I think Willie was like that. He was different than his generation. He was just above and beyond athletically for his time. And you talk about him hitting homers in his 50s. That doesn't surprise me. Man, it, it, it surprised me because, you know, he came in. He used to always talk crazy to the pitchers. I can still hit y'all. I remember this is what he told me one day. He said, let me tell you something, Kevin, and it always stuck in my brain. He said, if you can't hit a fastball, you shouldn't be in the big leagues. He said, if you go to that mound right now and take a 38 gun and shoot that bullet, I'm going to hit that bullet because it's straight. I got to worry about all the wrinkle stuff. And it always stuck in my head. If you can't hit a fastball in the big leagues, you shouldn't be here. And then he told me, he said, I want you to start hitting a ball to right center. That's where the wind tunnel is at in Candlestick. I learned how to hit the ball to right field. I remember candlestick is it's, you had to do it on a daily, but I guess you get to a point as a home team where you just got to accept it. You fight it. It's going to be a long year. But I remember going to the stick and just you get in the boxing and as an opponent, you're not there every day. So you don't know, it's just swirling. It's the most uncomfortable thing. And then all of a sudden, you know, sometimes I'd smoke a ball to left. It wouldn't go anywhere. And I'd pop one up to right. And I think I'm out. And the next thing, you know, it keeps going. And it's a homer. I thought there is a little bit of a wind tunnel out there. It's left field is hard. If everybody, you shouldn't even try to go to left field. I saw Andre Dawson crushed through three balls, one game. And I was camped up under. I mean, just crushed him. Right center is the way to go in candlestick. You remember, you remember the first time meeting Willie? Yes, I do. I met Willie in New York. I was a rookie at the time. And I was in the cage hitting on the field. And he turned around. He thought it was George Foster hitting. And he said, this kid here got a different sound off his bat. Next months later, I was over in San Francisco. Wow, that's cool. You know, in the Willie thing, it's like, I don't know, it still hits me today. And without even knowing it's like, when I was in Atlanta, I was only there one year, but it's like, it's probably the same thing when Hank used to come down. He had an office in Atlanta and Hank would pop down very rarely, but he popped down and I'd kind of look at him and I'm like, that's freaking Hank Aaron. That's hammering Hank. You know, and it's just different. There's not too many. It's almost like these guys are from a different generation where they're not really real. Like, yeah, we've heard that it's almost like they're fictional characters. And it's like Ted Williams, Ted Williams. Yeah, he didn't really exist. You know, he was, yeah, this splendid splinter, whatever. I've never seen him play, but those guys, there's something weird and once again, weird in a good way, but just different than the average great player. And they had different breeds, man. It's just a different breed. Even as he got older, man, you know, I'll go see him sometime up there. And he and he still had it. He still looked thick as a bull. He still had his strength grabbing his hands. He still had his strength. He was still strong. He still was cussing doing all the things he did and I cuss him right back. And Renee used to say, Kevin, I've never seen nobody cuss heading back. I said, man, he taught me this. This is the way he taught me. I'm so I'm a cussing him. He's going to cuss me all day and I'm going to keep cussing him. I was watching a giant game the other day and Cruco had a story. And he said, uh, he said, when he first wet met Willy Mays, he said, Willy knew his name. And he said he had to call his mom and go, hey, mom, Willy Mays knew my name. It was that he had that type of an impact on people, that type of impression. Boney, I'm going to tell you what, when I was going to visit him up in that facility, he's watching the giant's game and he can't even see he's blind. But he knew who was up at the plate and he knew who was, you know, who was playing. And he was going, he was having problems here too. So, and he knew his surroundings. He knew who was around him, who was in the room with him, knew where there was all that, man, it was just unbelievable. You know, when you're going blind, when you're blind and you're having problems here, that's, that's, that's made your main functions. And he knew where everybody was in the room. 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The guy that you, you kind of grew up with in the Giants organization, is kind of legendary in our circles is Murph. Who's your clubhouse guy? I know he had a real relationship with Willie. And their stories about he would just hang in Murph's office all the time. And for those of you listening to the Brett Boone podcast, most club houses, we have, once you pull in the front, the club is in the front. He's got his office, and that's where he's got all this equipment back in the day. They're a little more state-of-the-art these days. But back then, you might have a coffee maker. You might have a six-pack of beer. Who knows what's it? You need an extra hat. He's got one in the cover. You need some laundry bleach. He's got it right there for you. Anything you need. But a lot of the guys from yesterday, they'd come back and kind of hang out. And I heard Willie used to just hang on that office. And as a current player, you could just pop in and get a Willie Mae story. And I heard he had a real sense of humor too. Oh man, he was the greatest man. That's why I said he was like one of the guys. You know, if the younger you even knew anything about him, you know, you would love to be around him because he was a joy. And he joked and played and based. He did everything. It was a joy every time he came to that clubhouse and sat in Murr's office. And before the game, we was always sitting there and enjoying what he had to say about baseball and life period. How about the other old timers like a Maccovey back in the day? Would he have stories about Willie? Yeah, they both did, man. You know, it's just sad that we'd lost all three of them, man. You know, the two, three big hitters that I really loved. I used to see Maccovey go up in this box because, you know, Maccovey was in a wheelchair. So he didn't come down that much. So I'd go up to his box and go see him. So it's just sad. But like I'll tell you, Bonnie, they're in a good place to help in that mansion, where we're all trying to get to, you know. I saw that you were talking about him working with you in the outfield. And I remember there's a YouTube video with you working with Willie in the outfield. I'll tell you what, and for people that are watching this podcast, listen to this podcast right now, when we're done, get, when you're done listening, go Google Kevin Mitchell, a ton of people have seen it, but go Google the Kevin Mitchell catch where he bare hands a ball down the left field line. I wonder about this because Willie's known, what is he known for? What does everybody think of Willie Mae? That's catch and center field, right? Yeah. I'll tell you what, the Kevin Mitchell catch down the left field line. Willie Mae's ain't got nothing on that catch. It's one of the most remarkable. I don't even know if you knew you were putting your hand up to catch it, but it's one of the greatest catches ever that doesn't get enough play. But I remember it, and the guys from our generation remember it. You ever tease him like Willie, that catch, that's decent over the head, but mine's a lot better. I'm just going to tell you that he cussed me so bad for saying that. He cussed me so bad. It's not even close, but he called me better. He called me that night, and he said, I didn't teach you that. He can't teach that. You can't teach that. I said, I didn't teach you that. I want you to use the glove. And that's why I'm done talking right here. I want you to use the glove. I said, Willie, it was just reaction, man. I just, you know, it's just something that happened. You know, when you played so much ball in the boys club, you know, I was at the boys club every day when I was a young kid. And we didn't have no gloves. We played woofer ball. We played all kinds of stuff without no gloves. You know, it's just something that happened, and I can never do that again. You know, it's just reaction, you know, that year for me in '89 was so good. Everything was going so well. You know, I couldn't make a mistake. Yeah, of course. Of course, you just threw your hand out and caught it. Yeah. I want to hear something from Kevin Mitchell from The Heart. You haven't shared anywhere about Willie Mays. Man, you know, I usually don't talk about, you know, Willie, our relationship was. And we'll still be in my heart. He was like, like I said, he was like a father to me. Man, there's days I talked to him about playing in the game. And he would tell me, you know, you're not going to get a day off. So don't expect no day off. You go out there and play. But I'll tell you something that he really stuck to me that he said to me, he made me compete against Will Clark. He said, if Will hit a single, you hit a double. That's how I competed with Will in '89. He said, if Will hit a double, you hit a triple. If he hit a triple, you hit a home run. You compete off that man in front of you. And it's stuck in you. That's cool, because it's not a negative competition. It's positive. It's pushing your teammate. Yeah, yeah. And I told Will that. I said, Will, I've been competing against you, man. Willie always taught me to compete. And then he told me, if you go out there and you keep doing what you're doing, even if the team is losing, you still go out there and play. I don't want you to quit. I don't want you to get no days off. You play hurt. You play sick. Turn it to Sipada a little bit right now before I let you go. It was a shock to me, especially coming off the Willie News. My interactions that I mentioned earlier, he just seemed like a sweetheart of a man. Soft-spoken? What was he like? What was he like? Soft-spoken, man, just a pleasure sitting there. And he always took his way out to come over and give me a hug, man, all the time. Even though I didn't see him, if I'm paying attention to something else, he would come out his way and come give me a hug. The Sipada was. He was such a gentle giant, man. He was so gentle, soft-spoken. Man, I just, I was sitting there watching the TV the other day, watching a giant's play against the Dodgers. And this post comes out on TV and I was, wait a minute. We just lost one of our great legends. Now another one goes. And I didn't even see this coming with Sipada, but like I said, I knew he was sick. And I knew he had went down a couple of months ago at a show. They had to fly him to the hospital. But I said, man, this is going to hurt. This is going to hurt so bad, man. Just remember these guys. But like I said, we've got to keep moving as people that love these guys and care to bottom, we just got to, they go on us to celebrate and keep going, keep moving. You're on the giant's wall of fame. What does it mean to share that wall and that uniform with these two guys? Pune, I'm a giant forever, man. My heart, my body bleeds orange. You know, and the giants, his first class, man, they took care of me. They still take care of me, man, when they want me to come up and do things. And all the teams that I did play with, the enemy giants has been there for me, man. And it's an honor for me to be on that wall with all these legends, even though I feel I don't deserve it, you know. And I was just like telling myself I went to a show one day, I sat next to Mike Smith, Sugar Ray Leonard, Randy Johnson. And I sit here and told myself, what am I doing here? Why am I here with these legends? Man, these guys are icons, man. What am I, I'm looking around like a little kid. I mean, that's the way I feel on that wall. You know, I don't think I've done anything special in the game. The way the game has been going now, the way these guys have been playing. You know, I wish I would have played longer and did better things. But I, be honest with you, Bonnie, I didn't take care of myself. Like I wanted to, like I'm doing now, I tell people to this day, I wish I would have took care of myself now, like I did when I was playing, you know. But I remember, you know, and when I was first coming up and I was breaking in and Mitch was there and see, people don't understand, Mitch, we have a relationship from, from way back. When I was a kid and I was coming up and man, I was brash and cocky and whatever you want to call me. And, and the two most unlikely guys that were buddies were me and Kevin Mitchell. And I remember coming to camp and the older guys giving me a hard time all the time and Mitch would go, Hey, you leave Boonie alone. He swings hard and that's what I like. And so I had Kevin Mitchell as my, he was my muscle when I was coming up as a rookie. And, and you know, I don't know if I've ever told you this, but I really appreciated it. And I, and I always looked at Kevin. I said that was one of my mentors. When I was just a kid coming up, I didn't know, I didn't know if I was coming or going. I, I knew I was swinging hard and learning on the fly and get my butt kicked. But I had to get back up and learn from that and go forward. And, and you were one of those guys, you were one of my, my mentors when I was young coming up. And, and I don't know if I've ever told you this, but I just want to tell you, I appreciate it because it meant a lot to me at the time because Mitch, you know, you were, you were scary. Everybody was scared of Kevin Mitchell, but I wasn't. I said, you guys, he, he ain't scary. I said, that's why boy over there and, and, and, but you had that, you had that aura about you. And maybe some of it was calculated. Maybe not, but you had that image like, whoa, you better be careful. That's Mitch. I tell people to this day, I love Boney, because you know why? He's up there trying to hurt somebody. He's trying to put damage. He don't cheat himself at all. You'll never see him take a, a lazy swing, man. He's up there trying to do damage. And that's what I like about this kid, this kid. Boney, you were so aggressive, man. And I, I wish everybody can watch your swing and be aggressive on two and all three and one. But they don't do it no more in this game. They take it. Yeah, go ahead. They take pictures right down the middle of the plate, two and all. And then swing after that ones. Yeah. And it's our time was different, Mitch. I mean, you're a little ahead of me. You came before me a little bit, but our time was, was different. And it was, man, you had to earn your stripes when you got to the big leagues and they just didn't, you didn't just get there and, and they roll out the welcome mat and make you feel good. No, those, those veteran players could be hard on you. You spoke when you were, you spoke when you were spoken to, you sat, you sat in the front of the bus with the coaching staff and you didn't dare come back to the back of the bus. So those are some times that you got to earn your stripes. You got to use card from somewhere, man. And they're going to make you pay to get that. It's like being in a motorcycle club. You got to earn your, your, your patches. Right. And when that day finally comes, we all have that moment. Yeah, I'm sure you had your moment where you finally thought, all right, I belong. I've earned my right. I'm a big lager now. It doesn't come overnight. And, you know, I look at the kids today. Give it a talk. Yeah. And I don't know, you know, the, the argument is let's make them feel comfortable from the beginning so they can contribute right away. But I don't know if that's the best path going forward. You know, I wouldn't trade when I had to go through. And then I had some tough nights where, man, the veteran players were being tough on me. I'm not getting any hits. But I'll tell you, once I did make it and finally establish myself, man, was it rewarding? Because of all the tough times you got to go through to earn it. Oh, yeah. I had to learn too with that New York Mets team. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Them guys was ruthless on me, man. I was scared to go on the road sometimes because I knew what I was going to be wearing. And in the airport, they was messing with suits, my suits, everything, man. I knew I was going to get played for every day. Yeah. You know, they was rough on me, man. And they made me, I got to give it to these guys. The New York Mets team made me the player that I am today because playing in New York, if you can play in New York, you could play anywhere else. Everywhere else is a piece of cane because you better go out and play for them fans. Yeah. Well, Mitch, I appreciate coming on, man. Taking a little time for the Red Moon podcast today. Always great catching up with you. Stay a touch. We got to play golf one day, man. Hey, I seen you on the golf course. You're showing some little highlights in the golf ball. We're just swinging at it all. But I'm going to do what you tell me to do. I'm going to the gym today and I'm going to do some squats. I like it. Start baby squats, baby squats. Just the bar today. Get the most. Yeah, I can't do it heavy because, you know, I'm fused in the next. So, but everything is good. God is good, man. I'm blessed and I'm moving and grooving, man. And I always listen to your podcast, man. See who you got on there, man. I love it. You always had a mouthpiece, my brother. You just keep on dealing with what you're doing. I appreciate it, man. Love you, Mitch. Thanks again to Kevin Mitchell for joining us on this San Francisco special tribute to the icons. Next up, Will the Thrill? Will Clark? 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It's a six time all-stars. A member of the Giants Wall of Fame recently 2002. He had his number retired. And you can check them out quite frequently now and very entertaining on no filter network with Eric Birds, a guy I played against for years and years. That's entertaining. Check them out when you can. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, will the thrill? Will Clark. Will, thanks for coming on. Hey, Boonie. I'm loving it, man. You know, this is a second time up back with you and looking forward to it. Very cool. We had a teammate of yours, Kevin Mitchell on earlier. Obviously, the Giants recently lost two of their legends. And that's obviously Willie Mays. And right on top of that, it seems like they were getting ready for his celebration of life. And I hear the news of Orlando Cepeda, the baby Bull. Man, that's a tough stretch for the Giants. I mean, two great men. You know, Will and I was telling Kevin about this. Obviously, you guys know these guys really well. I was fortunate enough. I got to meet Willie one day. I think we were coming too early in my career at Candlestick. And I was telling him the story that, you know, as players, when we're getting ready for a game, we don't have time to go meet and greet and wait. Willie Mays was one of those guys that actually stopped. And I actually waited. And I was like three deep just to shake his hands. There's only a handful of guys that I've come across in my life that you'd wait in line to meet Willie. It's almost like they're fictional characters. Like, yeah, I heard I've seen the catch. You know, the Ted Williams Babe Ruth type, iconic type players. He was one of those guys. I got to meet him once. And then Orlando a year ago at the All-Star game, I got to sit down with him. And it just seemed like a, like a gentle-hearted man. And just he was talking about the old timers. He told me, you know, Booney, I loved your grandpa. And for me, with gramps being long gone now, anybody that's got stories of him, I treasure him because, you know, as life goes on, you find things that were important to you one time aren't and the ones that aren't as important. They're really important now. But just touch a little bit on when you heard the news, you know, these guys are getting up in age. So it's a matter of time. We're all going to be there one day. When you heard the news, first thoughts. Well, first off, as far as Willie Mays goes, I actually was in route to Birmingham to go to the game that they had at Rickwood Field, you know, when I found out about it. And, you know, it was emotional moment because I was close to Willie. Got a lot of, you know, a lot of pictures with him, a lot of history with him. Not only have candlestick, but at all star games and special functions. And then he was one of my mentors because, you know, he'd come around. He and Willie McCovey would come around and do kind of the same thing that I'm doing to the younger guys being like a special hitting advisor and stuff like that. So, you know, he and I were really close. It was emotional, but at the same time going to Rickwood Field to, you know, celebrate it, not only the Negro leagues, but also Willie Mays. For me, it was a celebration of his life. And that's what it became. I think you're right. I had Bob Kendrick on the show and he was telling me, then this is about a month ago, leading up to this Rickwood event. And he was all excited. I said, that's got to be pretty unbelievable for Willie to be, you know, to be honored. He played there when he was 17 years old and he goes, yeah, hopefully Willie can make it. And then I saw come across ticker, Willie wasn't going to be at the game. And first thing in my mind was, oh, something's not right for him not to travel all that way. And sure enough, a few days later, we got the word. Willie Mays, the man, the legend, and the influence on you. You know, I mean, whenever he was around a ballpark and whenever he was around a cage, I mean, you know, for me personally, I tried to pick his brain all the time, you know, and he was a wealth of information. I mean, you know, he'd come up with some gems and, you know, as you well know, you know, having your, you know, your grandpa, your dad, all that sort of stuff. You know, when you get the advice passed down from the veterans and especially the unbelievable veterans like this, you know, you really pay attention to it. And so for me, it was, it was a friendship and also, you know, my mentor or one of my mentors. And I paid attention to everything he said. And I tried to put it into my game, especially he was really big on positioning and defense. And, and so that was some of the stuff that we talked about, you know, in our era was moving guys around and stuff like that. You know, I know he was a, he was a big fan and they were really close. Murph, the legendary clubby that you guys had forever. And, and you know, as an opponent, we got to know Murph too, because he'd be coming across to our clubhouse once in a while. I know he was really close. Cruco, I heard on the Giants broadcast the other day told a story how the first time he met Willy called his mom and said, Willy May, he's knew my name, you know, and it's stuff like that. I look, I wonder, I wonder if you see the same thing I see. When we look at old film, you know, let's be honest, probably the guys in 2050 are going to be looking at our generation ago. These guys couldn't play with us. They're too slow. That's just, that's just natural as time goes on. But when you look at old films, you know, you look at guys in the 40s and the 50s, you think these guys couldn't play with us. They don't throw hard enough. They don't, but Willy May's to me, when I see old footage of him, he's one of the few guys that I say that plays in today's game. You know, he was that much better than the next guys. Am I crazy or do you see the same thing? No, no, you're not crazy. You definitely the same thing. You know, everybody likes the label face. You know, nowadays, you know, they got to have a label for everything, but it was never like a label for Willy May's as being the best 5-2 player there ever was. He was the first one. He was number one that could do it all hit, run, throw, hit for power, hit average, you know, and control the whole ball game. So, you know, I mean, for me, personally, you know, and then having played with, you know, his godson, having played or excuse me, been a member of a team with Barry Bonds, you know, who Willy took under his wing. And, you know, so it's a giant's legacy that's passed down. And, you know, a history of the game that's passed down. And, you know, whenever I go see some of my only guys now, that's what I try to do. I try to invoke some of the history of the game, history of the giant's organization. And hey, you know, when you run out there with giants on your chest, this is who you're representing. So, you know, some of the kids are getting it, some of them don't. But as far as Willy May's goes, you know, for me, personally, just one of the best ever. I mean, just one of the best ever. And I was fortunate enough to learn from you. Since a humor, I heard you had a big sense of humor, big sense of humor. I mean, he would cut up laughing giggle, you know, the whole thing. And then on the flip side of things, he'd get serious. And when he got serious, all right, it's pay attention. And, you know, he was the same, hey kid, he was a big kid. But at the same time, oh my god, what knowledge there was, what knowledge was passed down. Not only to myself, teammates that came before me, teammates that came after me. And he was a showman too. He was one of the first showman's in the game. It's almost like, it's almost like he wore his hat too big. So when he hit a triple, it would fall off. I mean, he was that kind of, and then he'd slide in the third and have that big smile on his face. He was, you know, it was unbelievable. Because, you know, I talked about guys and, you know, I played one year at Atlanta. And I had that same feeling when Hank would come out of his office and come onto the field. Like, that guy's not real. He's, that's the home run king right there, you know, Henry. And, similar, similar, I put those guys in that category of, of kind of untouchable guys that you'd like to look at. Here's one, here's one for you, Boonie. I gotta just print it out because the people wanted to see it. But this is, this is kind of just, you know, iconic picture of, you know, me and him were sitting on a bench in Dodger Stadium. And he's, he's giving me a lesson, some sort of lesson. I don't know what it is. But, you know, these are the kind of moments that we had, you know, one-on-one in, in person, you know, and he talked to me very frankly. And I loved it. I enjoyed it. Awesome. Moving on to Orlando Cepeda. Yeah. To me, I don't know. Once again, didn't know him. Well, I heard he had, you know, his health had had some problems recently. To me, it was a shock right after, right after Willie. But talk about the baby bull a little bit. And like I said on the opening, it seemed like a sweetheart of a man, the little that I did know him. Yeah, no, baby bull, believe it or not, he didn't really talk a lot of, you know, baseball mechanics and stuff like that, as did Willie and Willie Mack. But baby bull was more of the upbeat, you know, make sure you're good, patch on the back, always laughing, you go ahead and smile on his face all the time. And like you said, just a sweetheart of a man, you know, always was in a very good humor. And, you know, he started out with the Giants, went ahead of another really good career with the Cardinals. And yeah, just super people. I mean, you know, the old schoolers, you know, I haven't met anybody I haven't liked. And, you know, I mean, just, you know, having another legend within a little bit of a span of Willie Mays, you know, pass away, you know, the Giants, they're running out of little places to put patches on their uniforms now. But, you know, just like you said, a sweetheart of a man, I can't say enough about him. He represented the game really well. He represented the Spanish players really well. And, you know, we'll be sorely missed. I talked to Mitch about it. I asked him about, you know, being on the wall of fame, sharing that with all the great giants, not just Willie Mays and Orlando, but you mentioned Maccovey before that. And he said it was, it was unbelievable. I want to know, not only are you on the wall of fame, but not too many people get to get their numbers retired. I mean, that's a different level. You got that in 2022. And now your jersey number is hanging up right next to Willie. What's that mean to Will Clark? You know, that was the one thing that I told everybody, you know, in my speech when I was out on the field, I said, this is my Hall of Fame, you know, being honored like that by the San Francisco Giants, having my number retired. And then, you know, when you look up there now, especially, you know, Willie has passed, you know, I'm right next to Willie. So we'll be forever linked. And, you know, I mean, that's one of the best feelings I've ever had, you know, on the baseball field is looking up there, seeing your number retired. It's pretty cool. Pretty awesome. And congratulations on that. All right. I want to talk a little bit about no filter. How did you cut now? I know Burnsey and I know that personality. It's been there forever. How did that come to fruition? Where can the viewers watch the Brett Boom podcast? Where can they catch it? How many days a week? What are you up to? Give me the whole, give me the whole spiel. So, so, you know, I mean, as you will, no, Eric Burns is not all there. He's really not. Never has been. All right. But he and I have been friends for 20 something years now. And he was one of the guys that was pretty inspirational, believe it or not, in trying to get my number retired. He had all kinds of stuff going on with it. And, you know, when it was retired, I had him on the field. And it was, you know, he was almost crying. He thought it was such a great honor. But, you know, he started this platform called No Filter. We do it on Tuesday nights. It's, let's see, a big nine Eastern. And six Pacific, eight in the Central Division, Central Time Zone. And it's No Filter network is what you can go to and you can find it. And then the show is called Deuce as Well, because I'm 22. He's 22. And he called the Deuce as Well. We literally talk baseball and we talk it top to bottom in, out, up, down. I have just seen the San Jose Giants, which is our low A-ball team. We are going to do No Filter tomorrow night, which is when we come on Tuesday nights. And I would imagine we're going to talk a lot about the money league kids I saw and stuff like that. Plus talk to Giants. But then we always interject other things. I mean, there's always something going on where, you know, this guy had a cycle or, you know, this guy had a note hitter and we'll break and we'll talk about it and talk about, you know, how hard that is and stuff like that. But then, because like you said, you know, Eric's not all there. You know, one day we were doing a show and on the TV behind him, he had the dogs run around. You know, the Kennel Club, you know what, he run around. He posed and all that sort of stuff. And I'm like, dude, what's up with the dogs? He says, ah, he says, I'm in the dogs. He says, I like watching him. He says, the guy that's going to win is the dog with the biggest balls. And I go, oh my God. And that's just, that's just Eric right there, you know. So we had so much fun. We laugh and giggle. We cut up. So good. Burnsy, he's all over the, I mean, as a, okay. So I had that, you know, early 2000s, he was in Oakland. We, Mariners and us had a pretty good rivalry with the A's at that time. And Burnsy was just this dude that we'd sit there at. We'd watch him before the game, just how he was getting ready for the game. And me and Edgar and myself would sit there and go, who's this Burns cat? Check him out. I mean, he's just sprinting everywhere he goes. It's like, it was unbelievable. Got to know Burnsy a little bit as I did some of those A's back in the days. And yeah, he's always been that guy. It's like he never know what he's going to do next. I'll turn on your no filter. Who knows how he's going to be dressed with goggles he's wearing. He likes to, he likes to jog in the snow. I know that. But. He likes to jog in the snow with like no shirt and does snow angels. And he gives you weather. It gives you weather updates. Yeah, no, he's unbelievable. But you know, I mean, you know, I remember him after I had retired, I remembered him, you know, being on some of the highlight tapes, some of these diving catches that he was making in the outfield. I'm like, whoa, I like that guy. I, you know, he goes after it. And then a few years later, I think it was 2004, 2005, somewhere up in there. My agent became CEO of the Diamondbacks. And they wanted me to come on board and work with some of the hitters. So I showed up and they would take an infield and outfield. And I remember somebody hit a ball to this left field there and he charged it like a bat out of hell. And when he threw it, he did a complete somersault front flip and just landed there like this. And I'm like, who is that guy? And they were like, that's Eric Burns and all that. And so, you know, it's a, it's a really good platform that he's got going right now. He kind of tees me up and, you know, I'll go off on something or I'll comment about something and then vice versa. I'll tee him up and he goes on a rant about something. And it makes for, it makes her a very entertaining show. Yeah, it definitely is entertaining. For those of you watching, check out Will and Burnsey on No Filter. It is entertaining. And that's Tuesday nights. Catch it when you can. Will, I appreciate you coming on and jumping on for this brief, brief moment to give a little insight. And I wish you all the best. For those of you out there watching the Brett Boone podcast. Now on our own YouTube channel, check it out. For those of you listening on the Odyssey app, wherever you download your podcast. Until next time, keep it there. Thanks, bro. Thank you, Boone. I appreciate you. You got it, man. 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