(upbeat music) ♪ Welcome dee gens far and wide ♪ ♪ To another edition of the dee gen docs ♪ On this episode three of the dee gen docs, we're gonna be breaking down the NFC West. That is right, we are currently in our division previews where we are talking free agency, team breakdown, injury analysis, fantasy takes, and of course, best bets folks. So join us the dee gen docs, two healthcare professionals whose first love was football, and whose second love just happened to be making money off of football. So we hope you join us tonight, cheers folks, and we are about to get into it. This NFC West edition of the dee gen docs on the sports gambling podcast network is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. You can win up to 325 times your entry with their new pick eight. Sign up with promo code SGPNDock to claim your special pick, plus first time deposit, offer up to $250 in bonus cash. Underdog Fantasy.com. (indistinct) Promo code SGPNDock. All caps, one word, SGPNDocks. We're also brought to you by rhythm. Get the best data driven props and picks from rhythm. Claim your 70, seven day free trial today by going to sportsgamblingpodcast.com/rhythm at sportsgamblingpodcast slash R-I-T-H-M-M. What is up folks? I am the O-G-D-den doc himself, Sebastian Fearon joined by my co-host, none other than Mr. Professor Lox, Derek Bennett himself. What's going on brother, how are we doing? - Dude, it has been a day. - It's been a day. - It's been a day. - It's summertime, man. What are you talking about? - Well, that's the thing. So like, I mean, yes, I'm professor Lox, but like in reality, I am a college professor. So it is like recoup, recovery, summertime. But at the same time, like getting married in September, just bought a house, got all these things. And I want to like knock out throughout the day, right? So I got my honeydew list, one of which is to go to Home Depot and get a bunch of shit. - Yep, like a real man. - Exactly, right. Well, so yes, the problem with that is my keys are in my fiance's car. - Okay. - Left over from my head's like, you guys have no idea where this is. - Left over from this weekend, my keys are in my fiance's car. I can't go anywhere. So I finally made a late night Home Depot run, just hours ago before recording this. So thank you for allowing us to push this back a little bit. - Oh, yes, you're welcome. Wait, so is this the first time this has happened? - Yes, I believe it's the first time that I've left my keys in her car and I haven't been able to leave the house. - Okay. - I would say my free will. - You know what I'm gonna say? This might be a way to be able to just keep you home. You know, she keeps tabs on you. She just take the keys and go. - No, she keeps giving more and more things to do. So that I guess would be one way to make sure that I can't go and just. - Here, Han, here's your giant list. Oh, you want to go golfing? You want to go, you know, work out? No, I think I'm just going to take your key. - Yeah. - Well, you are on your way to married life, brother. So tears to you. What are we drinking tonight? - Well, that's, again, it's been a day. So we've basically killed it to a wall. But this is four rows of small batch. - Oh, we did. Okay. - But it's probably the last night I'll be drinking this for a little bit, but anyways. - What are we drinking over there? - We're drinking over there. - We're not salutes. I'm still working on the little Elijah, just to work more through that. Of course, representing peerless out in Kentucky there. - Thank you. - The good vibes. - Thank you. - But hey, man, look. - Hey, one thing. You know what grinds my gears? - You're saying what we just talked about, did it? - Well, so that did. But, so I go to Home Depot, right? - Uh-huh. - I'm going to get lumber. I'm going to get a few other things. - The problem with this is I put all my lumber in my little cart buggy thing. - Okay. - And then they have shit, just like in all the aisles at Home Depot. So like you can't move around through like different aisles. - You are in Bumfucker hire. What kind of shit are we talking about? - I know, but like, but okay. So there's like just random buckets or like random like cardboard stands of like shit that I guess some people need that I didn't need. (laughing) The way. So like I had to go three aisles over to park my little buggy. And then I had to go to three aisles over to get the shit that I needed, bring it back to bring it back to my cart. It was just a whole thing. - It's look, man. I think you're going about it all wrong. This is how you do it. - I knew it. - You know what, I need football in my life. - It is the dad training camp, man. It is dad Olympics. It is preparing you. You need to look at it like a combine. You got to just be throwing through it. A little obstacle course. Just, you know, make, make, make a most out of it. - Yeah. - But yes, shout out to Home Depot for previewing our what grinds my gear segment on the show there. Well, listen, we do need football, right? And I will give a shout out to other sports as in anything other than football, right? They're doing their best to hold it down. We are recording this on Monday, June 24th. We've got game seven of the NHL Stanley Cup finals. Right now, we've got game three of the College World Series. We've got 12 MLB games. We've got even two Copa Americas, euros. - USA, USA, over the weekend. - Not looking bad. But I will say, out of doubt, wholeheartedly, I would give that all up in a second for just one action game. I need football, man. I will take one day action game over all that shit, man. - It's like yummy. - I had a whole, yup, yup. New Mexico, the Lobos, I don't care, man. I need football, I need it. Listen, I appreciate all the other sports trying to hold it down. They're doing their thing as a sports better. It gives you some action, but there's nothing like football. So folks, we are nine Saturdays away from college football and 11 Sundays. - Just over two months. - Yup, we are almost there. So hey, we hope you are just as jacked up as we are. And let's get it going. We are talking about none other than the NFC West over there on the West Coast. Some call it the best coast. Not gonna hear that on this show. - The left coast. - But a division that's been, you know, it's really been a three horse race for the past couple of years with the 49ers Rams and Seahawks, but the Cardinals may surprise some people. And that's who we're gonna be talking about first here with the Arizona Cardinals. So what's, as we always do, start with some of their free agency additions and subtractions. So they lost really their wide receiver one. If you could ever say healthy. Marquis Hollywood Browns over with Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. Wanda Moore, speedy wide receiver, who never really panned out. He's at the Falcons. Offensive tackle DJ Humphries is free agent and defensive lineman starter Lacay Fotu is with the Jets. They did make about double the additions here. So you got some starters on defense and Sean Murphy-Bunding coming over from the box. I believe actually he was at the Titans last. Mac Wilson there, linebacker, wide receiver Jay Jones from Jacksonville, Jonah Williams, Desmond Ritter, who, what do we really add in there? Let's see what Marvison Harris and junior, Trey Benson, and we already talked about Murphy-Bunding. So yeah, that's some pretty decent turnover there. Lost a couple of our receivers, brought in a few, especially through the draft there. What are your kind of big takeaways with this team? Looking at Arizona there, 4 and 13 last year. - Yeah, so the things that come to mind to me, at least up front is, they've definitely made steps in the right direction, I will say, on the offensive side. I think adding Marvin Harris and junior, adding Trey Benson, adding Azay Jones, I think they're getting better offensive weapons. But what happens on that offensive line? Like, okay, they bring in Jonah Williams, but he really didn't do a ton in, since he, on defense, they didn't, it really touched that side of the ball besides Sean Murphy-Bunding, I guess Mckerelson as well. But I think they'll be better on offense, especially with Kyler coming back with a full season. I will say that a lot of people get kind of given up on Kyler. I haven't, I think he's a stud athlete. He can really spin it, but defensively, I don't know if they've made enough changes to really push their way higher on my board. - Yeah, no, I think that's fair. I would tend to agree there, you know, better getting team is getting better, but I don't know if they're quite there yet for me. Let's talk about some of those, some of those, well, really from the injury front, they, you know, a positive is that they or should not be affected hell much. Yeah, by injuries, they are fairly healthy there. So that is the one benefit. The one guy who really is kind of the biggest injury is going to be linebacker, Kaizir White. He was the leading tackler for this team last year, so he is an important piece to that puzzle. - And he got injured when in November? - In November, yep, November. - And he was leading tackler? - Yeah, well, that says a lot. - Yes, that is, you're right. (laughs) But he's been the leading tackler. Let me, well, let me see. I'm not sure if he finished the year as the leading tackler, but he definitely-- - I mean, what we're trying to say is Kaizir White is a roaming linebacker that's just a stud. - Yes, yes, he absolutely is a tackling machine for those of you who do de-gens that do play IDP. Obviously, you're probably aware with him. We'll be likely taking some of his tackle props in the future, but yeah, he had a biceps tear, typically about a 10 to 11 month injury, return to sport timeline. He's working with about nine and a half months. So what are your thoughts about Kaizir White there? - Honestly, I mean, it's an interesting situation there 'cause like you said, time to week one is just under that 10 to 11 month mark. So will he be ready for week one? Probably not, but at the same time, like there's a lot of things that we can do to help secure that elbow joint, that shoulder joint to take some pressure off of the biceps. Like, you know, I think the big thing is how, how functional he needs to be from a linebacker perspective. Like he's not a wide receiver, he's not a cornerback, he's not somebody that's needing to go up above his head a ton in terms of like shoulder function, elbow function. He's not like doing curls out on the 30 yard line. So I mean, I think, like I said, I think he'll probably be a little bit delayed but not terribly delayed to start the season. - Yeah, no, I think that, yeah, there might be some limitations. I think the biggest thing with a biceps tear from this standpoint would be him initiating contact and kind of hand fighting with an offensive lineman and things like that. So, you know, I'd have a little bit of pause with him just getting right back and getting into that lead role with him being such an important piece. But overall, you know, he should be back within the first, you know, four weeks. He's got a good chance to be starting week one. You know, he's kind of right around that edge. I'd like to have him have a month more but I do expect him to be on the part of the field early on in the season. So yeah, and the biggest thing is that's the only real injury concerns they have. - Right, right. And that's one that because he plays such a vital role in their defense, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually plays week one just on a snap down. Like, you know, in big situations or maybe the first couple of series just to kind of get them rolling. - Yeah, yeah, no, I like him. Yeah, I think some big other big takeaways here for me. I think, yeah, defense is gonna need him 'cause I don't think they're very good on paper. Looking at this lineup, you know, they've got some guys and, you know, we talked about Kaiser White, we talked about Food and Baker, he's able to Lari, he's even Collins, but nobody on this defense scares me. I guess Buddha Baker, maybe. I mean, he's a good up player, but like, you know, when you're an offensive coordinator, like who keeps you up at night? You know, there's usually at least one or two guys on the other side and maybe it is. - There's more ones up front that yeah, no. - Yeah, their linebackers are okay. Their quarterbacks are okay. Like really, it's just Buddha Baker is the only one that would give me any type of pause. It's an offensive coordinator. So, you know, I do think this defense could be bad, but on the flip side, I think this offense can be really fun. I think that, you know, Kyler's got some things to prove. Obviously, he can work around with his legs. I think James Connor is getting absolutely slept on. One of the biggest things I'm asking is, why is James Carpenter RB27? Why is he behind guys like Jonathan Brooks? Like tell me 26 running backs are gonna have a better fantasy here than James Connor. Like I feel like he's just a guy who's consistently productive, but consistently forgotten. He had over a thousand yards on a very bad team with no Kyler Murray or anything in Kyler Murray can run, but he can also open up some holes. He's effective out of the backfield. I don't get that one. That's a head scratcher for me. - Yeah, no, I completely agree. Like, I mean, obviously we're both pick guys and with James Connor being in Pittsburgh for so long with the Panthers and the Steelers, touches us a little bit closer. But at the same time, James Connor isn't gonna be that guy to bust one for 80 yards, but at the same time, he's just a grinder over and over and over. And I mean, he's proven, like you said, even last year without Kyler on a really bad team to still be fairly productive. - Yeah, no, and I do like Connor. I also like Trey McBride. I think Trey McBride is in from a fantasy perspective. Now, you know, he's going high already. He's up there on the top 10, top five, excuse me, fantasy tight ends. I think he's got a chance to be, you know, one or two. He was super productive and he only really played half the games. You know, I really liked him last year. He was one of my guys, one of my sleepers. I was fading Zach Arts coming off an injury and being old. And you know, Trey McBride was the guy who was gonna be feasting off that. So he definitely has an opportunity. I think, you know, Kyler, James Connor, Trey McBride, all those guys in fantasy and can. - Can we talk about Mozart anymore? - I was gonna say, I am leaving somebody off that. Maybe you're a little bit higher on. So why don't you lead us in to your, what are your best bets for this Arizona Cardinals team? - So, I mean, like Seth said earlier in the, in this episode, I am from Ohio. I have seen Marvin Harrison do his thing over the last two, three years in Columbus as of that guy. - Did that lose the Michigan? - That thing? - I'm sorry, I have a bad day. - They would have won a natty a couple years ago if he wouldn't have gotten knocked out. But I mean, as a Florida guy, I would have taken that over Georgia any day. But all right, here we go. - But this dude's a stud, like big body. He's super fast, in and out of his cuts, he can run basically any route that they designed for him. I think he's going to be one of those star dudes right out of college. I think he's basically, and this is the understatement. I mean, he's been kind of like that lock, rookie wide receiver for quite some time. But they do have a couple of other receiving options. Like he said, Trey McBride is a solid receiving option. Michael Wilson, okay, he's a Jones, okay. But I think, I think Marvin Harrison really shines in this offense. He could be that next Larry Fitzgerald type out there in Arizona. So we'll see. - I got to say a snap, let's calm down with the Larry Fitsk. - Hey, who's his pops? - That's, hey, you're right. That's a good point, as pedigrees there, pedigrees there. - I mean, he's proven on the field that he can live up to the hype a little bit. But, well, I mean, we'll see. But I think he is definitely their number one option. - Yeah. - Going into training camp, going into the season, right off the bat, so. - Cool, yeah. Is that, that's a one for, so what, Mazarari Marv over touchdowns? - Oh, yeah, Mazarari Marv over six and a half plus 125. - Yep, that's 120. Grab him some plus money there. All right, a little high for rookie, but I do, I agree. I think he's, I think he's at advertised. He is, he's really good. All right, so, and this actually leads me into one of my bets, kind of going along with that. I do think, you know, Mazarari Marv, Trey McBride, Zay Jones, James Connor. I think his offense can move the ball. I also think they have to, because their defense kind of sucks. - They're gonna be behind. - Yep, they're gonna be behind. So give me a Kyler Murray over 21 and a half passing touchdowns at a nice plus 105 there in his, you know, two seasons. Well, really, you know, rookie year, he had 20. And then when he was healthy, he had 26, 24. Last two seasons, he's kind of falling off, obviously due to health, but it did come back and look pretty good. He had 10 touchdowns in eight games. So he was kind of on pace to be able to break that number there. So I like the over passing touchdowns for Kyler Murray there. - No, I like that. Like you said with McBride, with Marv, with some of the other options that they've added to this roster, I think their offense is gonna shine. That kind of leads into your second one. - Yeah, yeah, and then kind of, you know, go along with that, I do like Cardinal's team total points over 388 and a half. So to break that down, it comes out to about 22.4 a game. And I know what you're thinking, you know, I originally was like, huh, that might be a lot for them. You know, what did they put up last year when that atrocious offense, when we saw Clayton tune and Joshua Dobbs, the astronaut for a little bit. - Astronaut. - Yeah, so yeah, he's, they put up 19.4 last year with that atrocious offense. Everything going wrong with that team. So I think there are three points better on offense. I think that's what it boils down to. We talked about the defensive concerns. I think they can let up some points. They're in the division with some potent offenses. They're gonna need to score. So yeah, I like Kyler and that team to get loose. I like this team in fantasy. Again, Kyler Murray, Trey McBride, James Connor, all guys you can get at value, I think. You know, Marvin Harrison, you'll probably have to pay a little bit of a price. So, you know, if you're like Derek and you really believe in him, go get him. But yeah, no, I think this team could be fun. I, right now, we're mostly, we use draft kings for our odds for the most part. It's just what we both use. I'm not seeing any McBride or James Connor-Overs. Obviously, I like them as something I would play. Also, Underdog Fantasy, one of our sponsors, promo code SGPNDock, they have season longs. So, you know, some things that we could potentially talk about there. So, you know, when those come out, I think those are guys that I'll be looking on their-Overs. Anything else on the Cardinals before you wrap up? - Well, I do kind of sort of sadly have one final best bet. - No, boy. - Personally, we've talked about how we like the Cardinals' offense, but they're defense, dude. I just don't see how they're gonna win many games. Like, I think it's going to be somewhat of a repeat. You know, they're in one of the toughest divisions in football, so I do think the Cardinals go under six and a half wins, which is plus 125. - Yeah. - Unvaulting. So, I think they're taking steps, but I think it's mostly due to the division that they're in. - Yeah. - You know, that's completely fair. - That's completely fair. You know, they're win total sitting at six and a half. Like Derek mentioned, you know, it's pretty heavily juiced to the over, minus 150 over, you know, plus 125, did you say it was the under? So, yeah, for me, this was like, right, I could see it going either way. You know, in that case, you know, if you're gonna be in a coin fit, you might as well take the plus money. I could see them getting to seven. I could see them being at six. I think, you know, Vegas is somewhat right in that way. But yeah, you're right. I mean, this defense did not get better. I completely got worse. I like the offense, but that does not mean it's gonna equate to winning games, right? Fantasy guys and, you know, guys that can score points, they'll always equate to win. So, I don't hate that at all. All right, we're moving on to talk about the Seattle Seahawks. And before we do that, quick note here. Make sure you guys check out the OG sports gambling podcast, where it all started with Kramer and Sean over there. They've started their top 10 fantasy football preview series. The quarterbacks and tight ends episodes are already live. Look, folks, we're a strong believer in this, but it is never too early for the national football league. And we're back, baby. All right, we are talking about the Seattle Seahawks here. So let's get them on the stage here. We're gonna start off with their losses and additions. As always, this team was nine and eight last year. They lost Drew Locke, now a member of my New York football Giants. We'll do the day one starter. Stay tuned for next week. Maybe a little bit of a previewing the NFC beast then. tight end, Colby Parkinson, offensive guard starter, Damian Lewis, some starters in linebacker court, Jordan Brooks and Bobby Wagner, and Jamal Adams, who, you know, so much potential just can never say healthy. Additions, they added one mid quarterback for another. They went Drew Locke and traded him for Sam Howe. You got Lincoln Tomlinson at guard, taking over for Damian Lewis. Jerome Baker, taking over the middle linebacker spot from Miami, he's a pretty good player there. Senator Nick Harris and their first round draft pick, Byron Murphy, the second from Texas. What are your initial takeaways there? - Honestly, I think this basically amounts to the same Seahawks as last year. Like tell me something that's changed here. I mean, you trade guard for guard, Lincoln Tomlinson versus Damian Lewis. I mean, they're... - Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you're right. I mean, you know what I mean? - We switched out, you know, linebacker, a couple of linebackers and a safety. And yeah, like a lineman. - I mean, Byron Murphy is, I mean, definitely has some potential there, but... - But he doesn't even need a star behind that good defensive line. - Right, that's true, that's true. - Yeah, you're right. They're pretty much running it back. - They're running it back. And last year, as the record can show, they were 9 and 8. - Yep. - So, what would you expect the Seahawks season to look like this upcoming season? - Yeah, I think it all comes down to Geno Smith. You know, I think we talk about, I do think this defense is really solid. Looking up and down the board, you know, Jaron Williams, Jameau Jones, Boya Maffey. You channeled to Wosu, who we're gonna talk about in a second, coming back from injury. There, you know, this is a solid, solid defense, right? So, I think that's one of my biggest takeaways, especially that secondary with Witherspoon, Julian Love, Rick Wolin, and they got Ray Sean Jenkins there. You know, I think this defense is really good. I think it's all gonna come down to Geno Smith. I, how good, how much do you believe in Geno Smith? What Geno Smith are we gonna see? You know, I think he's kinda gonna be their ceiling. I think that's what it's gonna come down to, ultimately. - I would tend to agree there. I mean, like you said, their defense is solid. You got the 12th man behind you at home. What Geno is gonna show up week to week is the big question. - Exactly, exactly. All right, we're gonna talk about some injuries real quick. So, we've got a couple guys coming back from some injuries, talked about them briefly. You channeled to Wosu, pass what you're there. Tour is a pack, factor house, major muscle, at October 26th, 2023. So, you know, typically about a four to six month recovery process for a pectare, you know, grade three enough that he needed surgery. Definitely out for the season, if you get that anywhere near the season. But, you know, he's got 10 and a half months until the season, he's got really an extra, you know, four or five months on top of the necessary recovery time to get back on the field. I don't have much concerns there. - He's not training with the Green Bay guy. - Yeah, he can stay away from the Green Bay Packers trying to convince him to be fine. If you wanna get that joke, make sure you check out the NFC North episode where we had raised some questions on the Packers, you know, really rehab team, medical team. Similar situation for Jerome Baker, coming over from the Dolphins, wrist surgery. He injured himself pretty late in the season. The seventh of January. And another four to six month recovery, he's got eight months. So, you know, any concern for either of those guys? - Nope, nope. I think both of them should be fine. - I think both should be fine. One guy I do have a bit of concern with is starting guard or is he, let's see, is he tackle or a guard? Starting right tackle, Abram Lucas. He missed, he was in and out of the lineup, had a lot of kind of difficulty, chronic knee pain. Some degenerative things going on in his knee. You know, he missed 11 games last year. This has been kind of an issue. So, he did have surgery on the 17th of January right after the season, hoping to fix that up. But as you know, you know, any type of chronic knee, cartilage, I would assume, they didn't say exactly what the surgery was, but anytime you have some chronic issues in the knee, it's not like they can just replace all that. So, you know, what are your thoughts on? - No, exactly what you just said. I mean, anytime we start talking about chronic issues, we're talking about long-term things that just won't go away. And anytime you try to clean this up with surgery, like, not to say that it's always a bad thing, but like, you're almost asking for more weakness and more scar tissue and more like things to like, build up that you don't necessarily want, you know? So, I mean, we can go through a number of different offensive linemen that have had similar knee-related chronic issues. - Ryan Ramchek. - Ramchek, Bactiari, I mean. - Ryan Jensen. - Yep, exactly. So, you know, this is one of those things that like, these are big human beings that, you know, their brunt of their work is through their legs and driving through defensive linemen. And if you have pain in your knee, you're not going to be able to do that nearly as well. So, like you said, I think that is a question mark going into training camp, for sure. - Yeah, no, I agree. Yeah, like you said, big human beings, right? That's a lot of weight on the knee that's already not too stable. Now, they do expect him back for training camp, but I just think this is one for watch for. I don't think it's going to go away. So, it's not as simple as hey, he's going to be back, he's going to be good to go. So, so concern there. - That's one that he may start the first week. He may start the second week. And then all of a sudden, he's going to the sideline in the third week and then for the fourth and fifth week, he's on the bench and then he's comes back and it's just kind of one of those things that it may be in and out, who knows? - Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And there is a bit of a drop-off there between him and George Van or Stone foresight. And then JSN picked up a minor shoulder injury, but it is expected to be minor. At this point, we don't have a ton of information on it, but the expectation is it's not supposed to be a big deal. So, it should be good to go there. You know, to looking over at the fantasy side of things, I think one of the bigger things that stands out to me is the Y receivers are intriguing and it's running back to Y receivers competition, right? You know, Y receivers, obviously DK Metcalf, JSN, Jackson Smith and Digua and Tyler Lockett. I thought rather going right now, ADP was a little interesting, you know, DK, Y receiver 20, JSN, Y receiver 47 and Lockett at Y receiver 51. What guy would you be taking this season at that ADP? Oh, man, that's tough. I really honestly, I think they are going to try to get Jackson Smith and Digua at JSN going a little bit more than they did last year. I think there was a little bit being said that he wasn't super happy with the way that they were running the offense, just his involvement. So, I would not be surprised if he goes off a little bit more. So, I would probably take JSN, but it's so hard having three really solid wide receivers. You know, you're going to have to share involvement. Yeah, no, that is true. I mean, I think he's definitely the guy who's kind of the sexier pick right now, JSN. I think he's got definitely the highest ceiling right now based on where he's going. I mean, DK Metcalf, you know, he might be the best wide receiver, but you're paying the price for him at large receiver 20. I like Tyler Lockett there at wide receiver 51. I just think he's a producer and, you know, he's a guy who just has, you know, makes catches, gets an end zone, consistently produces. That actually takes me into one of my best bets for this team and that is Tyler Lockett over four and a half receiving touchdowns at plus 125 there. You know, he has hit this number seven out of nine times in his career. It's only been two seasons. I think his second and third season were the only two seasons. Yeah, second and third seasons were the only two seasons. He did not get this. He had five last year. I just think he's a guy who just finds the end zone, you know, so give me Tyler Lockett over four and a half receiving touchdowns at plus 125. I like the plus money there and then kind of not really correlated but almost in the opposite direction. Give me Gino Smith under 22 and a half passing touchdowns. Look, at this point, Gino Smith has really had one good year in the NFL. I think a lot of people tend to forget that. He has hit this number once in his entire career. Obviously it was the career. I think he made the Pro Bowl last year, which I didn't really understand, but 2022 when he had 30 touchdowns. The only other time he's been close was last year with 20. I think he is declining. I don't think he's that good to begin with. And there's a reason that there are odds right now for him to be the starting quarterback week one. Now he is the favorite, but the fact that there's already questions about, hey, Sam, how are we going to get in here? You know, if they struggle, if they, you know, get off to a slow start, I could absolutely see them trying to see what they got in Sam Howe or, you know, mixing it up there and not having Gino just be the starter because I think he's kind of declining on his way out. So give me the under 22 and a half passing touchdowns, but the little bit of juice at minus 135. What do you got up for other people? I'm just trying to maul your Gino Smith pick there. I don't know if I like that one or not. But it's partially due to my best bet here. And really, I think the Seahawks, like we said, they're kind of running it back. Yeah. I think overall, and we'll talk a little bit more about the Rams coming up here in just a minute. But for whatever reason, I just don't like, I think the Rams are going to take a little bit of a dip. Cardinals are still not that great of a team. I just think the Seahawks can get two and a half or, you know, at least three division wins. So I like the Seahawks over two and a half division wins at minus 105. You know, I think their defense is so solid. Your offense is basically running it back. So I think overall, I think they'll get those three division wins. I think they'll split between at least the, they may get two from the Cardinals and they'll just have to pick up one from the four remaining. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't hate it. I don't hate it, right? We talked about the Cardinals there. You know, may have a fun offense, but their defense should be, should be pretty paper soft, paper thin there. And I think they do play their division tough. You know, I, I, you can win three division games and, and have Sam Harle, but how we were started or just, you know, Smith started and do what he did last year and still get under this number. So I, I do think, you know, Pete Carroll, defensive minded coach, he's got two solid running backs in Kenneth Walker and Zach Charbonnet. I think this could be a run heavy team. They do have become good wide receivers. You know, I just don't think they need a light up to score the board for them to be successful. Um, so I'm, I'm fine with that. I could see them, you know, doing something similar to what they did last year. Did you just mention Pete Carroll? Yeah. Oh, is he, is he gone? He's, he's been gone. What am I thinking about? He's been gone. Oh, what? He got, he got, he got booted. Yes. All right. He got booted this year. This awesome. Don't make me think like, yeah. Mike McDonald. Yes. The offensive wizard. Mike was Arnold. Uh, and that, that's kind of speaks more to that defense that should be a better, but anyway, even proves my point even more. Defensive minded and coach. Uh, I just, this is not the guy who's like 75 years old. Yes. He finally was kicked out. Um, damn. I, I, why it's the hot season, man. Gotcha. Yeah. Glad it's not August to September running that. So all right. 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That was a, that was a hell of a game. Yeah, that was a great game, but let's talk about their free agency here. So, uh, I don't know. I don't know how Carson wins made it on the list as a loss, but he is no longer there. Uh, you know, they got rid of the biggest one. Uh, obviously. Brian Allen. No, I'm kidding. Donald Aaron Donald there retired. Uh, all time great, all time great pit man. Uh, he's an absolute stud. So being able to replace him is going to be a big question mark. And you got a quill of weather spoon and Jordan Fuller, some secondary pieces there. They did add a decent amount. Uh, Colby Parkinson. It looks like he's going to be the starting tight end to start the year at least Jonah Jackson. Really good offensive lineman from the lion. Trudevious white who for the bills was good, but he's coming off two major injuries. So we'll see. Uh, they did reload there in the draft. Uh, Blake quorum to help spell Kyra Williams. But Jared verse and brain and fist teammates out of Florida state. Seaman whole university. Um, they are going to look to replace and help. Well, you can't really put place Aaron Donald, but trying to fill some of those voids that he's going to leave there on the defensive line. Uh, again, 10 and seven, uh, last year and they're over under is eight and a half this year with some juice to the over. What do we got? What do we takeaways here? Quick looks, quick thoughts on the Rams. You know, like, you just mentioned, I mean, they, they added a lot. Uh, in terms of offensive line help, defensive help, they lost quite a bit on the defense too. You know, obviously you lose Aaron Donald, who's just an absolute stud. You know, I mean, first ballot Hall of Famer. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. You lose a couple other pieces in Witherspoon and Jordan Fuller, but, um, yeah, I mean, I think in, in for the most part, besides, um, adding Jonah Jackson on the offensive side, didn't really do much, just another year older. Um, and defensively, we'll see. Like you said, I mean, Treadavious White has shown that he is a stud when he was in, in Buffalo, but he's coming off of an ACL tear, then he, towards the killies. So we'll see what he can give Cameron Carroll also coming in. Um, yeah, I mean, he's, he's a solid safety, um, to replace Jordan Fuller. So we'll see. Yeah. All right. Well, not to tip the hand, but seems like you're a little bit lower on the Rams and then, uh, then I might be here. But look at talk about some of those injuries you were just alluding to starting off with the cornerback, Treadavious White, as you mentioned, was coming off an ACL tear and tore his Achilles this year. Uh, this past season on October the 7th, 2023. Uh, yeah, that was brutal. Again, Tom and off to major injuries, never a good sign. He's got about 10 months until week one, typically about a 10 to 12 month recovery timeline. Um, so definitely some question marks there about, you know, yes, I think he will play next season, but how much and how, what he's going to look like. That's a lot of question marks there for a guy who's right now, slotted to be starting cornerback opposite Darius Williams there. Um, Tyler Higby, I think this is one of the people I have the most concern about in all of fantasy. Um, he tore his ACL and his MCL multi ligament tear, uh, two major stabilizing ligaments of the knee on the 14th of January, uh, just this year. And yeah, it's only eight months until the season, uh, but you need about 10 to 12 months for those multi ligament, uh, knee injuries to come back from. So I think there's major concerns. I think there's a chance he does not play at all this year. And if he does, it's going to be very late. So, you know, right now he's tied in at number 50, as he should be, really should not be drafting Tyler Higby. Uh, what are your thoughts about those two guys? Any, any disagreements? What are you thinking? Uh, no, no disagreements here. Like you said, for Davis white, we'll see. I think it's, it's kind of one of those things he's trending towards being ready right around week one. So yeah, he'd be ready in football shape. He's not going to really have much of a training camp. We'll see, especially after coming off of two major injuries, they'll probably be a little bit more conservative with him. I would think, uh, and then Tyler Higby, there's no way he's playing the first half of the season. Like said, he's probably one that I'm fading for pretty much the entire season, but especially come draft time. There's no way I'm drafting Tyler Higby. That does leave, you know, from the fantasy side, you know, they're, they're, I'm, I've been wanting them to, someone needs to pick up Sal Canella from the UFL. Guys are stud. I'm pretty sure I brought him up when we were talking about Hawkins in earlier. I don't know how that guy's not going somewhere. You could bring him in for, you know, a couple dollars in a bag of Cheetos at this point. But right now they're different. They're tight end depth is Colby Parkinson, Davis, Allen, Hunter, Long, a bunch of guys to me that are right around the same realm of maybe they could be interesting. Who's going to be that starting role? So yeah, right now, I mean, obviously something to monitor, whether it's a waiver wire type thing or you want to take a dart in best ball because the Rams do use the tight end. They use them quite frequently. So if you can hit on who the guy's going to be, I think that there's some value that can definitely be had there where some, not many people are taking these guys. So something to think about. And then the other injury. I want to talk about Kyron Williams picked up undisclosed foot injury, not a lot of information there expect to be back at training camp. He missed OTAs was just dragging off to the side. He injured his foot while working out. Again, not a lot of information. So one of those things where I think we just need to keep it in mind because right now he's going around running back eight, which, you know, you're paying a pretty penny for him. I think he could be worth it, but I would not feel great, you know, not knowing what injury has drafting him. So this is not, you know, red flag, raise the jump off the ship immediately. This is just, I would like to know more before we, you know, you're basically taking them in the first three rounds. And again, he has the potential to, you know, he just touchdown potential is great last year. He looked like a stud. But I just want to know that injury before we pull the trigger there. All right. Getting over to the takeaways. You know, we hit on him. We talked about, you know, life after Donald. I think this is a, I'm a little bit more optimistic on the Rams. I think when healthy Matthew Stafford, Kyron Williams, Cooper Cup, Pookanakua, Demarcus Robinson. I think that's a really good offense. You throw in Blake Quorum there to to Atwell. We'll see if Kobe Parkinson or Davis out, either one of them can do anything. But I think those, those kind of five or six core guys, I think are really dangerous offense when they are healthy. That is going to be the biggest concern with this team. As you mentioned, they're getting a little bit older. And then on the defensive side, really, I like their front seven and they are young front seven, but I think they have a lot of talent. It's all going to come down to that secondary is what is Trevius White going to give you Cameron Curl, kind of a journeyman, Russ Yeast, the younger player here. Williams, the younger player. Some guys who played well for them last year, but are they ready to take that next step and really become a one of the kind of more elite defenses there in LA. So, I believe it is your turn as far as the best bets. Yep. What do we got? And really, really, this just comes down to, we've mentioned this a couple of times, or at least you just mentioned it. The Rams, just historically can't stay healthy, like besides their Super Bowl year, like something happens. Stafford goes down, cup goes down. Cameron Williams now has this foot thing. Who knows what Blake Corum's going to give you? I don't know. You know, like, I think, in general, the Rams have lost a couple of pieces in terms of Aaron Donald. And I just, I don't know, for whatever reason, I just can't trust the Rams this year. Just going into the season, I just don't like the Rams. Like, they finished the regular season seven and one. Like, they're not that good of a team. Like, they're not an 800 win team. They're just not. Like, I think, in general, the health perspective is, is what leads me to think that they're just not going to get that. Just put my heart out. Tell me, I don't know. I just think I don't think they're going to be a winning team. Like, I'm taking their under eight and a half wins at plus 125. I think it's, it's plus money. I think losing a couple of key pieces on that defense. And they're another year older and they can't stay healthy to begin with. So, I'm saying that they don't get over 500 this year. End up missing the playoffs. Okay. Okay. All right, Los Angeles Rams Rams. We're going to take everything my co host just said and his negative Nancy self and throw it out the fucking window. Okay, because I, from one thing, this Los Angeles Rams team has great potential. I think you can get great value on this team. So, I've got three bets for the Los Angeles Rams, all of them positive first Rams to make the playoffs at plus 100. I think, first off, this is a division where NFC typically is, you know, historically the last couple years has not been as well as the AFC. I think you can get two slots, if not three out of this division. So, I think them to get the playoffs at even money is a great bet. Yeah, we talked about it. Darren, Aaron Donald is gone, but they brought in verse, they brought in fist, Kobe Turner looked good last year. I think they got a young core, Ernest Jones. I really like this defense, especially their front seven. And then that offense, man. It's Maddie Stafford, Cooper Cubs healthy, Pooka Nakua, Demarcus Robinson, Kyra Williams, Blake Korm, man, that is a five headed monster. That's what I want to mess with. So, give me them to make the playoffs at plus 100 and give me them to win the NFC West at plus 330 as we're going to get into it. I think that the 49ers after, you know, being in a Super Bowl last year and maybe smelling themselves a little bit, maybe in for a little bit of a slump post Super Bowl L. I'm going to go ahead and get that done plus 330. And then, yeah, if you thought that was crazy, we'll buckle up, folks, because I am going to be playing. Cooper Cup to lead the league in receiving touchdowns at 40 to one. Yes, this is obviously a vet on Cooper Cup staying healthy, which he's done a decent job of doing throughout his career. He's had 10 touchdowns one season, and then just a few years ago in 2021 with his buddy Matt Stafford, he had 16 touchdowns. You know, it took 13 to lead the league this year. I think he's still capable of it. I just don't think a guy who has done this before, and who has an elite quarterback should be 40 to one. I don't think anyone is on the puking the code train. I get it. He looks good. But again, that was when Cooper Cup was not healthy. Cooper Cup is healthy. He's a dangerous red zone target. Give me Cooper Cup to lead the NFL in receiving touchdowns at 40 to one. I'd ask you for your thoughts, but I really don't want to know him. You do negative Nancy. If Stafford and Cup both stay healthy. I just don't see that. I don't. I don't see them playing 17 games. I just don't. That's fair. I'll still take it over the Bryce Young comeback play of the year 40 to one. Okay, we did retract that. Yes. Yes. Remember folks, you cannot come back from sucking anymore. Apparently the NFL does not want to reward people like Flacco from coming off the couch. Even though we thought it was great. We love Joey Flacco coming off the couch. Exactly. I mean, he was, he was playing the husband dad role. Yeah, he was he was one of us. He was one of the people coming off the couch. 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The Arizona Cardinals and the Chicago Bears. No, I'm thinking about it, but there's past two seasons anyway. 12 wins, more than three of those NFL franchises over two years. That's a pretty damn good run, right? I don't know a lot, but I also saw he won like 21 over 21 mill this year in golf, like purses or they call him purses. We're halfway there. Like this dude is a robot, like he just, it's incredible. He really is. But anyways, to the to the Niners. And he's got a mugshot, which is a secret, secret. All right. Yes, to the last team for the NFC West preview, the San Francisco 49ers. We're going to talk about addition subtractions. There's a lot of them. So let's rattle through some of these bigger ones here. Chase Young from the Loser University. I'm sorry. I was thinking of something. My bad. But anyway, yeah, Chase Young gone as is his neck defensive and Randy Gregory is gone. He is on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Jevon King law is on the jets. Eric Armstead also are on the Jags Sebastian Joseph day on the Titans and Sean Gibson as a free agent. A lot of defensive linemen leaving the building and then add additions there. Spaceman himself, Joshua Dobbs, Leonard Floyd on a defensive line. Yeteer gross Matos and never really panned out with the Panthers from Penn State guy, Devondre Campbell, linebacker from the Packers, Colton McKibbitts coming to be an offensive tackle there, a starter. Malik Collins and defensive line and then. Mr. Slick Rick himself. Ricky Pierce saw my fantasy football sleeper for the 40 Gators. Love him. Just a great overall gator there. All right. What are we thinking? There's a lot of moving parts. What are the initial takeaways? There's a lot of moving parts for the NFC champs there, especially on the defensive line. Like you said, you lose Chase Young, you lose Randy Gregory, you lose a couple of D tackles. You replace them with it with a few guys, but will they be able to rotate the guys through like they did last year? It seems like every other play, they had a whole new defensive line. And then after a quarterback last year. So, will they be as fresh as they were last year? Probably not. But they brought in a couple of decent pieces in Malik Collins and Leonard Floyd. Devondre Campbell definitely should help in the loss of drag green law that we'll definitely talk about here in just a little bit. But yeah, I think overall, the Niners are the Niners on offense. They really didn't make many changes. Like you said, they brought in Ricky Pierce all but other than that. Yeah, not right. Not a ton of change. Yeah. So, yeah, let's talk about these Niners and we'll get, you know, as you've been telling throughout the show, one of us probably has a different opinion on the Niners and the other one. But one of the reasons that I'm not super high on them is their injury situation, right? Talk about drag green law. He heard himself on the absolutely worst day possible to hurt yourself in the season, in the last season. And that was the last game in the Super Bowl warming up. He was, I mean, he was getting ready to come back out onto the field and was all jumped up, jacked up as he should in the Super Bowl and tore his Achilles non-contact boom, done. Right. We all saw the video. He only has seven months until the season. This is a nine to 12 month recovery. Really, I like 10 to 12 months for a return to sport on the Achilles. I have huge concerns here. He's another guy like Kid Me, who may not play this season. Like, you know, I mean, I want him to get at least to that nine, 10 month mark. That's two, three months into the season. So, huge concerns there. Another guy to Lana, who Fanga, great name, great player. He's coming back from ACL tear when the shot white absolutely juked him out of his ligament. That was, that was, it was brutal if you haven't seen that play. We're not going to do it because. Yeah, I'm not going to be able to do that without laughing because that was, that was a dirty juke move. But he injured himself on November 21 to 2023. So, you know, he's got an ACL tear and tear Christian ligament, most saber lays on that major stabilizing ligament in the knee. You heard us talk about it here. It's about 10 to 12 months return to sport. He's got nine and a half months. So, he's definitely got more time. He definitely will play next season. It's just going to be about when and what he's going to look like. So, why don't we start with those two guys? What are we thinking? Yeah, I mean, like you said, I don't know if Green Law is going to sniff the field this year. I think it's going to be one of those things that depending on how the nine or season starts. Will he make a run second half the season? That kind of thing. Yeah, who Funga is going to play? He will probably be a little bit delayed. Like you said, usually with an ACL tear, nine, 10 months is still really pushing it for return. So, will he be on a snap count? Will he, you know, be starting the first two, three weeks? Yeah, maybe. But probably not. But I think they brought in some some guys that can take their place to a certain extent. I mean, Devondry Campbell is aging at this point, but he's definitely a solid linebacker that can fill in for Drag Green Law to a certain extent. So, who Funga is a stud on the back end in terms of safety. So, they really missed him last year when he really did. They really did. And, you know, they didn't really do much in terms of adding any safeties. Nope. We'll see. But like we said, you'll probably miss the first couple weeks and then he'll be back in there and just be an absolute born storming stud. Okay. Yeah. All right. We got a couple more injuries, more injuries and some similar injuries. Travarius Ward, cornerback Traverse Ward, starting cornerback and starting 10 and George Kittle, both suffered a core injury at some point during the season to the point that they needed surgery after the season. They both got them done about February. It's about a three to four month recovery timeline. They've got about six and a half months to the season. Neither of them have returned to offseason training at this point, which isn't a huge concern. They're both expected back by training camp. Kittle's situation is a little unique. Now he was rehabbing not only from the core surgery. He had a torn MCL and his toe. He had an issue with his shoulder, a fractured rib and dealing with that core injury. So he had a lot to the point that he went on one of those bars to I think bust one with the boys. And he said he lost 30 pounds during the offseason just he wasn't able to rehab. Right. So he says, you know, he was dealing with something. And because of the shoulder and the rib, he wasn't able to work out his upper body. And then because of the core, he couldn't do a lot of lower body. So he just kind of had a sit for like a month and a half, two months. And as you see guys who get out of any professional sport and then get to doing nothing, they'll either balloon up or they'll shrink down because when you're not working out as hard as you like as hard as these guys work out. Muscle atrophy can only really takes about 14 days to get the process started. So a month, two months, absolutely. This could be 30 pounds of weight loss. So what are your thoughts about there? I somewhat agree and somewhat disagree to be honest with you. Honestly, not to say that George Kittle is lying that he lost 30 pounds, but like eat. It's the off season. Like calories in calories out is a thing like in terms of weight gain weight loss. Is it good weight that he's gaining losing? Yeah. Okay. But like 30 pounds and in three, four months. That's a shit. That would be a good time. Yeah. But with that being said, core injury, rib injury. Very, very painful injuries to really do anything, whether it's working out, whether it's just walking around, whether it's laughing, whether it's sneezing. Like a lot of those core and rib related things. They just hurt doing anything. Do you know what I mean? So it doesn't really surprise me that he's in really travary's word with his core surgery too, that there may be a little bit behind schedule, if you will, to their normal off season, you know, workout plans, but at the same time, like they have plenty of time. Yeah. Before training camp, before week one to make things right. So, yeah, I think in general, I'm not, I'm not too concerned with either one of those. Yeah, I would agree. And something to know right now, but at this point, you know, if things go as they should, both these guys should be good to go for week one. Even as someone who's lower on this team, I think, you know, that is the realistic expectations. Kittle, if it was somebody else, I might be a little more concerned with the several injuries, but the dude is clearly played through injuries. He's an absolute freak absolute animal. Dude. Yeah, like anybody who loves to block is a cool dude in my book. Oh, so I do not really have a ton of concerns. Now, Kittle is going around Titan eight around guys like Kyle Pitts, Evan Ingram. Personally, I'm not super high on this offense, but I would take George Kittle before Kyle Pitts, but I would take Evan Ingram before them both. Where are you at with that? I would take Kittle before either one of those dudes to be honest with you. I think their offense really hasn't made too many big changes. So, yeah, I think, I mean, the situation is kind of interesting. Yeah, kind of. That's that's still out there, but overall, I think their offense is basically running back. I mean, I think it's another year with Brock Purdy. I'm just getting in chain of hands, you know, brain so. Yeah, well, here's my concerns, right? There is a realistic chance. I mean, brand I you right now is currently running around with first round draft picture in Daniels of the Washington commanders. They played together for one season when Daniels was at Arizona State. He was a freshman, I believe, and I was a senior. So he's heavily trying to recruit him. So there's a chance that they don't have a you. There's a chance they don't have brain law is really a chance to have green law. There's a chance they don't have fun. There's a chance they don't have to raise word. We'll see about Kittle for week one. So we're talking about guys like Curtis Robinson, Renardo Green, Malik Mustafa and Logis Thomas and Jacob Cowin being in the starting lineup. So as you can probably tell, so I'm going with this. So I won going going back to the I you thing, like they own him for three years. Like he still has another year on his deal. Then they have the franchise tag. And then they could franchise tag him again, like he's not going anyway. There's no way to sit out. Two, three years. Okay. It was unlikely. It's unlikely. But clearly there's something going on there. You can't say it's nothing at this point. I think I don't personally, I think it's kind of a couple years ago. Debo was saying that he would never play for the Niners again as well. And he's still there. It's a good point. It's a good point. We'll see about how everything is. But either way, I do think the defensive line takes a step back. Like you mentioned, really it's Nick Bosa, Leonard Foynes, not bad, but Javon Argue, Malik Collins. I did say lost a lot of pieces. They're not. They don't have the depth that they did anymore. I'm worried about who's going to replace Drake Greenlaw. I'm worried about the safety position, because not only did Hufonga, he's a great player, but coming off a severe injury. But Jair Brown, the rookie, really struggled when they tried to play him in that position last year. And he's slotted to be a starter. So between that D line, that secondary. And with if Brian and I, we'll say he's there. But hey, man, Brock Purdy, still Mr. Relevant. Still was the last pick in the draft for a reason. So back to back NFC championships. That's fair. But my best bets for the San Francisco 49ers, we went under and under nine and a half wins at plus 350. They're when total. So they're 12 and five last year. They're when total is 11 and a half. This year with a little bit plus 105 to the over. So a little bit of juice to the under there. You know, I think this situation where I don't think they're going to completely fall off face to the earth. But I think nine and eight is in the realm of possibilities. I think they can take a step back. Like we talked about that defensive line, those secondary does not give me a lot of confidence. They've got some big injury concerns. And I don't like this. I use juju that is getting thrown around in this offense. I'm not super sold on, you know, a situation where you could be looking at. Debo Samuels, Christian Caffrey, and then, you know, and you can throw kiddles in there, but Jwan Jennings. That's your boy. I do love Ricky Piersall. But hey, you know, sometimes we got, we got to let loyalties die. So that's, that's my first. But, you know, on the other side, I do think Debo Samuels still going to get his. So give me Debo Samuels five plus rushing and five plus receiving touchdown. So he just has to get five of both, which he's done. He did last year. And I think he's done the past few years at your club, 650 for Debo Samuel there. To again, I think they just love to use him in all different ways. And I think that's when he's at his best. So for him to get five touchdowns, both ways. I think is absolutely doable. Just pulling up his stats here. So he did this last year, and then he did it the year before. So two out of the last three years, he's hit this fairly easily. So give me Debo five plus rushing five plus receiving at plus 650. What do you got for the good people? So, I mean, kind of, kind of opposite of the Rams picks. I think we're again kind of on two different sides of this. I think the Niners run it back. They go on their revenge tour to a certain extent. And they stay the Kings of the West, I think. On offense, they really didn't lose much on defense. Obviously, defensive line, they lost a few different pieces. They brought in in some pieces to replace those. Obviously you're not going to replace. Three D tackles, a couple D ends with two D tackles and a D end or whatever it is, but. They brought in some serviceable pieces to replace them. I think they definitely get over 11 wins. Okay. So that's going to be the last one. And I'm also going to go out and say that they're going to be the last undefeated team. Oh my goodness. Plus 750. So if I pull up the Niners schedule. They have the New York football jets to start the season on Monday night. Monday night. The revenge of Aaron Rodgers Achilles. Yeah. Last time we saw Aaron Rodgers to start a season. He blew his load for plays. Three plays. But he looked like a badass carrying that American flag out of that damn tunnel. Oh, yeah. Definitely. And then he spattered out that he was going to come back from a Achilles tear in like three months. But well, that was, that was fucking terrible. Yeah. So I think they went against the jets. Minnesota. They know Sam Darnold pretty well. Okay. Dub at Los Angeles. That's going to be the question mark, to be honest with you. New England dub Arizona dub Seattle dub. Kansas City. They're going to get rocked in Kansas City. All right. Now they're at home. Revenge spot. Revenge spot. Um, you know, Kansas City really doesn't turn on until the playoffs. So we'll see. And then, then Dallas. Fuck Dallas. Exactly. And then they're by week at Tampa. Yeah. So, you know, I think, I think they get to their by week. Um, unblemished. They may get tripped up, like I said, against, or at. Uh, at the range week three. I think that's the one spot because Kansas City's at home. Dallas is at home. Yeah. What's that? What's that? What's that price again? To be the last undefeated. Uh, plus 750, I think. Okay. Plus 750. All right. I mean, I don't, I don't love this team, but you, you're right. Kansas City starts off slow. Um, yeah. Yeah. I mean, from these. Yeah. No, at LA week three is, is the spot I'm most nervous about without, but if they can get past that one, I think they roll. Yeah. Yeah. I don't hate that based on your logic, but, um. On different sides of the coin there for the last two teams here. So obviously. So hey, that folks, that shows you that we are, we are not colluding. Uh, we are making our own, our own picks here. All right, folks. We talked about all four teams. So we're going to do a quick wrap up our best bets. Um, Derek, I will let you start. Why don't you try to run through your best really quick and then I'll run through. And we'll get the fuck out of here. So we're going Cardinals under six and a half wins at plus one 25. Moss are already more of an Harrison Jr. Over six and a half touchdowns plus one 25. The Seahawks to go over two and a half division wins. The Rams to go under eight and a half total wins at plus one 25. And then the Niners to go over an 11, uh, to go over 11 and a half wins. And then the last undefeated team at plus seven 50. All right. And for myself, OG doc here, uh, I got the Arizona Cardinals team total points over 380 and a half at minus one 15. Kyler Murray over 21 and a half passing touchdowns at plus one oh five. Gino Smith for the Seattle Seahawks under 200 or 22 and a half passing touchdowns at minus one 35. Tyler Lockett over four and a half receiving touchdowns at plus one 25. Yes, Sam Howell is going to throw him a couple of those Rams to make the playoffs at plus 100 even money. Cooper cup to lead the NFL and receiving touchdowns at 40 to one. The Rams to be your NFC West division champions at plus 330. The San Francisco 49ers under nine and a half wins at plus 350 and Debo Samuel to have five receiving and five rushing touchdowns. Five or more, I should say at plus 650. So definitely some disparity there, uh, between the two of us, but that's how it goes. May the best man win and at the end of the day, as long as we're profitable, that's all that matters. Make my wallet thicker. That's all. All right, brother. Uh, looks like the glasses are empty. Do you have anything parting words for the good people before we get the heck out of here? Nope. All right. Good stuff. Long episode today. So, uh, hey, this is what happens. We're breaking down again. We talked about free agency. We broke down the team. We talked about the biggest injuries. Fantasy stuff. Yeah. We had, yeah, we got you some best bets. So if you enjoyed bullshitting with us for this past hour plus, then comment, like, subscribe. Like we said, this is part of a division preview series. So we did the NFC South. We did the NFC North. This is episode three, NSC West. So you can guess the NFC East, the NFC beast is coming next. Uh, so that'll be up next to you guys. It is. Yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Only division with at least once you're involved. Let's relax. Okay. Let's go fucking giants. All right. Um, time to get out of here. We appreciate your folks. Thank you, uh, for listening. And we will see you next time. What's up DJs doc here as a proud member of the U S army and a lover of football. Sometimes those two things crossover on here. But as you probably already know, as a lowly captain, these are just my opinions. These are not opinions that are representative of the entire D O D or the U S army. The same thing goes for any references to any commercial products or hyperlinks. Again, that does not constitute an endorsement from the D O D or the army. I hope you enjoyed the show and as always, let it ride, baby. (upbeat music)
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