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Ryan joining us as always to talk college football conference previews. Colby, Dan, AK pick Dundee. What's happening? Colby ready to talk athletic coast conference football. Whoa, I like that. I like that. Talk. That was all coast conference. Well, we, we didn't really go into it. Cause I mean, we, we already have had deep debates around the big 10, big 12. And of course the SEC, do you think the ACC changes its name? Does it have a sponsor? What do we, what are we thinking here? They don't want to sponsor. The league will not work. Wow. Why do you, why don't you think the legal work, Colby? Cause the big 12 is going to do their deal and the big 12 will have a gigantic gap then over the ACC and the ACC will then get their teams plucked by the big 12. The ACC needs to make sure no matter what, that they're staying parallel to the big 12 because, and they should just want more money. What was that original plan where they had a handshake, the alliance? The alliance. What was it like for conferences? No, pack 12 ACC, big 10. Mm. How they work out for the pack? Look at it. You look at it. I was like, we had a handshake agreement. Big 10. Real crook. I mean, for people that were all high and mighty a couple of years back, we all remember when we were canceling football for them to just murder the pack. 12. Yeah. Exactly. I guess, I guess it's different when it's a far away land and you can benefit from it. Hmm. Interesting. Hmm. Interesting. Don't see where the missile lands. That's why team SEC all day. I am starting to feel that way. The big 10 tries to act like they're better than everyone. They're the same as the SEC, little bitches. The SEC is like, fuck you. Look at me. I'm rich. Yeah. Like the SEC has a moat. The big 10 would pretend like they don't have a boo. Who they are. I can appreciate the authenticity in that. The big 10 is always like they're snotty little bitches. You know what I mean? They're like, we won't play and call it now. And then it's like the rest of the country's playing. They're like, Oh, yeah, we're going to play. I remember that how they changed the rules. So Ohio's just to make sure that everything would be up on the up and up for Ohio state to make it through. Exactly. So we don't have a minimum number of games played. They're okay. They're in. They're in. No, the big 10 to me. And then to me, like at least the SEC teams, they actually have been good. The big 10 has so much dead weight too. It's like for a conference that says they're so powerful, it's like Minnesota hasn't won since the fucking 40s. You know what I mean? Like Purdue has never won. So the ACC is right here. So the ACC is called what next season there. Let's go with the waffle house conference I would be awesome. And, and you, you would be allowed to fight if you like maybe they would have, if there's going to be a player fight, they have like a sideline area where they push them into a what else is that like NASCAR? Like, because like whatever's on a NASCAR jacket because that's North Carolina, Virginia, you know, South Carolina, Florida, all there. Cracker barrel. Come on. The cracker barrel conference. This is that would make a lot of sense. This is right. This is cracker barrel country. I mean, you could probably do hooters too. The problem is Stanford really throws off the yeah. All right. Here's, here's who we got in terms of headquarters in the area around Charlotte, which would probably be the most likely outcome. Bank of America. Oh, that banks like to spend money in this kind of thing. Imagine closing a deal. You're big, like an executive at Bank of American. You close the deal to make it the B of ACC. Well, that wouldn't make sense because your championship games at Bank of America stadium, you just stepped all over my B of ACC. Yeah, it's right there. Perfect. Yeah. B of ACC. Right. I mean, it's coming. I think we figured it out. We only had to go to one company. All right. Easy enough. So strangely enough, the breakup of this conference by alphabetical order left a lot of the contenders in part one. But here we are on the B side as Colby calls it. And we're starting with Colby's favorite team, the pussy back, the NC state wolf pack, AKA pussy pack. Hopefully you know to do different things with a wolf and a pussy Colby six and two in conference last year, nine and three overall. Now they sit at eight and five. I've heard a lot of people say, you know, Dave Dorn's got a good bunch of football players this year, minus one 35 to the over plus one 10 to the under six to one to win the conference. Just like Louisville. So honestly, side by side, give me Louisville all day for four 70 to make the playoff minus 700 to miss 100 to one to win the college football championship. Have it. Don't we just, I mean, it doesn't NC state do the same thing every year. Well, yeah, I mean, I was surprised on the college baseball experience that I think, you know, not the show for the college baseball world series on this. You're talking baseball, right? We're talking for you guys. I think might have took NC state. You didn't know about the pussy packs history. They might have a nice little run, but they're now winning nothing. All right. So, uh, um, to get to the final four, that's true in women's and men's. Yeah, that was a great. And then they lost if you're not first, your last, um, but then they went to Omaha did nothing. So, um, but this team has brought in the hype is real. Grayson McCall. He no longer pisses teal. Remember last year, he said he was coming back to coastal Carolina instead of Auburn as he pisses teal. Well, now he decided to take a big check there and rally, but they're going all in, man. And I'm going to piss red. That's not as much as I want to talk shit about the pussy pack. I do appreciate them going all in because this is by far the best roster that he's had. They went out in the portal, got you hot Carter, the safety from Ohio state. Uh, they, they brought in Jordan waters from Duke. It was a stud running back for the Benedict music Hollywood smothers. Right. Ever since he's over. He's over. I don't see state. You hear this motherfucker. I'm selling it ever since that photo came out of him rocking the NC state here. He's been, it's been a different man, but big bird Grayson McCall. It doesn't piss teal anymore. That, that's a big step for me. Uh, the schedule is really the reason where, what's the, what's the wind total out here? Uh, well, as I just mentioned, it was at eight and a half slight juice to the over. So the adjustment is 8.75. So the schedule, nine and three, they got to go. They have the, the, you know, the cat amounts shout out to we hawk who's a big cat about fan, open the season. And he is, he does a very nice job with his photographs. And he's got a, he's got one of those back yards that makes people jealous. Yeah. Got a couple of great Pyrenees too. I see all that shit. When you can make fire and enjoy college football at the same time. Sean, what do you think of the great Pyrenees? Uh, what's the dog? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're the fun. Yeah. Now you, you wouldn't pick one up. What are the chances of you getting the great Pyrenees? I thought they're like, I got to, I got to try and visualize. There's a 50 50 chance. Sean was going to. Well, they're those massive, uh, I didn't realize these were huge dogs. Yeah. I mean, you know, there is that moment like, Hey, can I still take this dog? If things go wrong, the great Pyrenees. Also, I don't want to pick up shits the size of a football, you know what I mean? Like that is 40, 50 pound dog is, is plenty of dog. Maybe you get 60 70, but you don't need a dog. I mean, God bless people who have them, but you don't need a hundred pound dog. A friend of ours used to have a large bulldog. It was like anything more than a handful. It's like, what the fuck am I doing here? And if you're picking up shits, the size of football chances are you're playing for NC state. Because, because like what you did, how did they not, how did they not, uh, ever get to an ACC championship? Wake's been the two ACC championships. Why? You know what I mean? Wait, so is this the twist? This is the beginning. You're turning around now? Well, the schedule, uh, they get the cat amounts. Okay. Then they get a game in Charlotte, a neutral side game against Tennessee. Is it neutral? That'll be 50 50. And also, it's the dukes mayo class. If we went over this and pre-production, you were going to say dukes mayo. Uh, yeah, but I got Tennessee winning that one. And then La Tech is horrible. I've heard there won't be a Mayo bath. That's only for the post. Yeah, that's only for the post season. Uh, they're at Clemson after that. You would think there'll be dogs there. So that's two losses home, the Northern Illinois, uh, that's Dave, Dave, uh, Dorn's old school. Um, the Illinois keeps a good program. They do. They do. And they beat Georgia Tech. What was last year or the year before, um, home to wake forest. Those games are always wacky, uh, home to Syracuse. Nice schedule. And then this is the one. This everyone's going to be saying NC States go into the ACC championship. And then they go, no, they go to Cal. Oh, they're losing that game to Cal, dude. Oh, yeah. I already had that game. Okay. So that's ACC loss. Number two, three, the third loss for the season, then they get a, a bi-week home to Stanford, then home to Duke, then another bi-week and then at Georgia Tech and at North Carolina, you're right stretching a bit to get to four. Carolina is going to be the one to do this to them. But that's the only three losses. No. What are you talking about? Tennessee Clemson. Oh, I, yeah, yeah. You're right. Three conference losses. And then they're no longer in that, but, but honestly, the schedule is very nice for NC State. If you're, if you, if you are an NC State fan, oh, you should believe that you could win the ACC. Right. Where we want them. But we're firing no message. But I know you're the pussy pack. All right. Come on. You gotta, I will take the under on the pussy pack and you're getting plus ads. Come on. Under eight and a half. Let's go eight and four plus cows coming off the corpse of Narduzzi that week. So Kramer, I assume he's dead at this point. Zoom you're on the over. Oh, not, not on NC State. No, I've learned my lesson with NC State. They will find a way to choke eight and four. I like how we worked it out there. Plus one tens and nice little bonus update on Kramer's unders three over seven unders for what this conference. Yeah. Well, we'll have to put out a final graphic for all the power for conferences, maybe plus the Mountain West pack two schools as well. All right. Honorary ACC team. Notre Dame that I think they played what? How many games in conference last year? I think they normally play seven, right? Oh, that's right. Seven. That's why I have a conference record here. Five and two against ACC schools last year, nine and three overall. Why, why are they just not in the conference? Well, once again, if we're going to have a conversation about snobby, 10 and a half is the wind total. Wow. Plus one 40 to the over minus one 70 to the under minus one 70 to make the playoff plus one 40 to miss 22 to one to win the national championship. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Explain their playoff path Colby. It's just the most easiest. Yeah, they just don't know what I mean. Like what's the obviously they don't have a chance in the auto bid, but no, they, they can't get the auto bid, but they don't, not the bye week, not the bye week. So they can never get the bye week because they can't, they're not a conference. They can't play a championship game. I got to be honest, this feels like the kind of thing that they were like the person they were negotiating with thought they got something in the negotiation. And Notre Dame was like, home game in the place. Yeah, because Notre Dame, Notre Dame gets, you don't imagine like the Dallas cowboy treatment or the Duke basketball treatment, where like they're, even when they're not that good, when you know the, when you watch them, yeah, they still will be ranked way higher than a night game, a special night game at Notre Dame stadium. I can't wait for that. I think that's going to be so great for college football. But, uh, I mean, how great is this schedule? You have obviously the, the, the tough opener, which I do think they will lose, but after that, first off, how many they only play three real road games, three college campus road games. I like how you do that. Well, because the Georgia Tech games bullshit, they're going to have all their fans there. That'll be, they, they, Georgia, Texas, they don't have the biggest football fan following fan base, right? Notre Dame fans travel. They will go to that game. There's no way. So all this team has to do is really just win one of the, the tough games, which the tough games are at Texas A and M home to Florida state and at USC, the rest are trash, uh, with the exception of Louisville, right? Yeah. Everyone else. Look, Northern Illinois, what they have, what they do last year, they were losing record, I believe, right? I think there are five and seven, if I'm seriously correct. Um, what throws me off is the ranking. This feels like the kind of season that Notre Dame finds a way to shit the bad or, or when's the last time Notre Dame has fallen, uh, not falling short when, when expectations were there. Yeah. It feels like it's been a very long time. And you have a young coach, seven of the 12 matchups to get teams with losing records last year. Yeah. No, I mean, the schedule suggests that they could very lose two games. Of course. Look at the schedule. But the, wait, wait, wait, the wind tunnel is 10 and a half, right? Yeah. But I'm saying to make the playoff 10 and two, they're in. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and it's crazy. It's minus odds at minus one 70. There's no, like I'd be shocked that they don't go to it. They're, they don't have a conference game or conference championship to dodge. They don't have, they don't have any of the weird shit to dodge. USC could be for their playoff lives, I think. But can, can I find two losses? It's tough. I mean, they play Florida state at home in November, which is when you would want to play them. Yeah. I mean, what are there? And the other one that they feel like their wind total really hangs on is at Texas A&M to start to see. I have them losing that. But the question is, is I kind of have them favored in every other game? Because I think they're better than USC right now. So yeah, and they'll go get a decent turnout. They play army at Yankee Stadium. That could be and they play Navy at the Meadowlands. That could be a tricky way. Did you, is this correct? Are they going back to the triple option? Yes. Both? Yeah. All right. So that, that becomes very interesting. A sloppy triple option team, we could see a lot of injuries right there, but they have a bi week after Navy with army, they don't. But all right. So Notre Dame's catching a point versus Texas A&M. Notre Dame is laying nine and a half versus Louisville. Notre Dame is laying three and a half versus Florida state. And they are laying three and a half against USC. This is a lot of confidence in this Notre Dame team. Am I missing something? No, but to call me a boy like I've been watching college football for a long time. They anytime they come in with like massive expectations is when they, when they fall into it, do we trust Riley Leonard? To some degree, but yeah, is he going to, is he going to lose two games in the regular season? I think that's a pretty safe bet. Who's beating them on the schedule? Honestly, like Florida state. Okay. Maybe Florida state, maybe USC, maybe road trip to LA is weird. Road trip to Purdue. That's a strange one. I'm fucking horrible right now. The worst you in the big 10. I would say you need it's your losses can come from Texas A&M Louisville, but normally what happens on the road, man. I'm just saying that's where the losses come from. Or, you know, who knows Stanford, a little physical battle there. Stanford did get him a couple of years ago. Four Elizabeth games. Let's hope they lose three or they only know I'm on the under. I'm never, it's very difficult for me to be on the over with Notre Dame when they just do, they're the same thing every year. Wait, no, but I think if you're playing this, you play the playoff. I'll actually, I agree with you that they'll go 10 and two. So I'll take the under two. Yeah, I guess, but to make the playoff, I think it's a slam dunk. So basically you can move, you're moving the wind total down to nine and a half. And you're laying minus one 70. So I, I probably have, I would say that nine and a half should be priced probably more like nine, minus one 40, one 50. But I like the angle. I don't know if they, I think they could lose three games. Honestly, I think, I think this Notre Dame team can make the playoff losing three games. They might not last team in, maybe because it's Notre Dame and they always get that. I feel like if you go back and look at it, it depends on the three, I guess three losses. Like we've had years where the top 12 teams include four loss teams. Yeah. Well, last year though, like LSU had three losses. They would have made the 12 team playoff. Yeah. That's what I think. Like I don't, how many three lost teams are going to make the playoff? I think there's going to be one or two, right? Oh, definitely. Yeah. Now would you bet? And it's going to either be from a big conference or Notre Dame. So I'm thinking Notre Dame under 10 and a half all day. Yeah. The problem is if they have three losses, their schedules trash. Yeah. I don't think that's a good point from Colby. I don't think they would get in with three losses. I think they got it. Yeah. I guess because of, they just got to win their losses B. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like when you look at that, their best case scenario for their losses is that they lose at A&M and they, and A&M's good and they lose it. Florida state and Florida state's really good. And they would need, yeah, they need A&M to like they could be two of the top 10 teams in the country. That's not crazy. But yeah, under is more fun. So are you, any interest in as an Irishman, any interest in the Notre Dame national championship press? Twenty two to one seems it seems like they're, they're offering some, some false gold at the end of the rainbow here. Yeah. I don't know. I 40 to one maybe could talk me into it, but they'll be solid. But I still think this Notre Dame team is classic. Like they mess up a couple regular season games. Yeah. If they assume when they make the playoffs, I mean, I don't think there's any value into betting them 22 to one right now because I don't like, when the playoffs start, I think there's probably a good chance they're going to be in that range. Anyway, I don't see a scenario. Like if they go undefeated, yeah, then you're, then you're like, Oh, I should have bet it when I was 22 to one better. After they lose that to A&M. Yeah, that's the other two. If they lose A&M, you're going to get a much, much better price on both make the playoff and comfort championship. And if they beat A&M, I don't think it's going to change that much. If you like, if you like the over, if you like, or yeah, if you like them, I was going to say, win the ACC. But if you like them to win the couch football playoff or to make the playoffs, just bet it after game one, I think that's a great idea for a graphic. He's a way where on every team schedule, should you bet them to win the national championship to get the best price. I do like that. I do like you have some fun ways to play with never in that as well. You know what I have fun doing? Sign it up for circuit survivors, circuit millions. First off, you got to love a contest where you got to sign up in Las Vegas or Reno. Great excuse to take a trip between now and when the NFL season kicks off, sign up, get out there, get the road to 10 million, 10 million guaranteed prizes in circuit survivors, six million in circuit millions, circuit millions. You pick five NFL teams against the spread every week. 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All right. Now that we're done with the honorary member, we're back into real members of the ACC like Pittsburgh, lots of tradition there. Two and six last year, as Colby mentioned, Nardusi's seat is very hot. Now it was, was he one of the coaches he predicted my die or nice to you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, no, nothing's, nothing's guaranteed, Colby. Yeah, that's actually a fun game. You can play die or fired. Yeah, die or five first. Three and nine overall, not very good. Five and a half is the total this year, minus 15 on the over minus 105 on the under 120 to one to win the conference. Thousand to one, they're in the dumpster with everyone else to win the national championship. If they, if he gets fired, is it a positive or a negative? Nardusi, that is. I mean, pit is one of these teams that always is super, super talented. Like as far as like guys that always like, and always like, and always coming out of everything. Like, you know, Rivas was on some bad. So would you say in the Nardusi years they've underachieved or overachieved? Well, one year when they won the AC, the ACC, the overachieved, but I always look at pit as like a team, you know, historically they've produced some of the best players in NFL history. You could do like an all-time team and say, you know, that they could beat anybody. And, and I've always, they should be a lot better. You know, like the past, I think part of it is when they destroyed that state, their home stadium on campus in, in the year 1999 to move to this thing. It's like 30 minutes away. So they only pack half the, half the crowd or 15, whatever it is, 20 minutes away. I think that's hurt them. Because it just before they used to have one of the best home field environments in college football. And maybe that's some of it. But the amount of talent there, state of Pennsylvania is like an underrated state for football talent and. Is it underrated? I think it's underrated. I think most people think of like the, the Northeast. Oh, I think Pennsylvania is one of the top states. Like it's in the big eight. It's in the, it's in the big eight with like the Texas, California, Florida, Ohio, and Western, Western Pennsylvania. And you're right there with Ohio. You're right there next to Ohio. So it's like, you know, remember Bob Huggins didn't know where he was at. You know what I mean? Like that he was in Pittsburgh, but he was in Ohio, Western Pennsylvania. That's a lot of quarterbacks came out of there. Colby. Oh, yeah. Beaver Falls, Joey, Joey Nameth. But this is one where, yeah, I mean, I feel like it's, I've always said it's a sleeping giant. It was a giant once, you know, it just hasn't been in a while. For his heart. Yeah. Back when they had Mike Dicken, Tony doing shot and hammer and everything. But, uh, but yeah, they got to work it out for him, but I'll tell you this is another great schedule. Another great schedule. I had a soft schedules on this side. On the B side. What's their toughest road? What's their toughest game on the schedule? It's Clemson, but it's Nate Yarnell fans. Uh, he was all right, but I'll tell you this. I'm a fan of anything that brings back all five starting off. It's a lineman and they do that. They do seem like a team. I don't know. To me, they've, to your point, Colby, I guess they've underachieved under Narduzzi, but I also think I guess just from doing these win totals every year, I feel like they've been kind of a decent bet because they come in with, like with that already baked in of like, ah, it's pit. They're never going to do anything. And they eat, uh, some overs against their windows. Like the year they won the ACC, they lost at home to Western Michigan. Yeah, you can't do that. You know what I mean? That, that sums up to me. Like the Narduzzi era, like they're a really physical football team. I always say like if you're a good, if you're like Florida state or Clemson, you never want to see pit on your schedule because pit is the one team that will actually, you know, has guys. So they will, they will bang too. Like that, they're a physical fucking hard hitting football team. He's, you know, Narduzzi's been there since 2015, only two years. And they have a losing conference schedule. And I do like what he did. Like he hired, uh, Kerwin Bells, the head coach of Western Carolina, former Florida Gator quarterback, and he played in the CFL and NFL, but his son was running the offense for Western Carolina, Cade Bell. Uh, that offense was very dynamic. Like Dan Reno's wife. And, uh, well, I mean, there were three and nine last year and Phil Steele has his like stock market indicator of regression stuff. Pittsburgh is a second in the nation and that. And so you would expect them to win more than three games. But again, what, I mean, you know, if they won three games, I'm sure the wind total being five and a half, I guess makes them somewhat interesting, but I don't, but even we have a massive ceiling. They won three games, but they, they whoop Louisville's ass. You know what I mean? Like that's what I mean is like, yeah, I don't think the three and nine. I think they were better than that. Now, Ken Darduzzi right the ship or to your point is, if they get out to a slow start, he might be fired mid-season as you've been pointing out. Well, most likely live. I think, I think that fire went the end of the year because he did win a championship three years ago. Give them a proper burial. They won't shoot in the face. But what is the thesis behind never laypoints with Narduzzi number one on my thou shout list, by the way? Well, I mean, we talked about Mario Christabel is in-game situation. Pat Narduzzi is, I think a former linebacker, if he shares me correct. Yeah, that's why he always, that's why this team always has that one game or two games when they completely trip up. I want to remind Sean, I don't think he remembers this. I think we were in Vegas. I don't remember. Pat Narduzzi and Pitt were at Penn State, right? They were playing at Penn State. And he was down seven points with the ball until this was a bad beat with the ball on the two-yard line on a fourth in goal with a minute and 40 seconds left. And he kicked a field goal. I do remember that. And I think they covered. I think they actually covered because of that. Yeah, dude. He asked the magic words. He's like, yeah, we thought we'd get the ball back. It's like, there's a minute, 40 seconds left. What are you talking about? No, I'll take the three. He was trying to cut it to one possession. It was a seven point game. Yeah, he was kind of to one possession. I mean, I said nothing about the current state that it was already one possession. What a look best. Anytime you can take a one possession game, keep it a one possession game. You do it. You jump on that opportunity. No, Narduzzi has this floss, but five and a half is very low for a team with some talent on their roster. Well, I love them returning that their whole offensive line. And I actually think bringing in that it was UVA at home. Yeah, though the schedule is really nice. They got hit a little bit on the defensive side of the ball in the portal, but I never worry about that because Narduzzi just like, I think he keeps a stable of good defensive lineman and linebackers with that. You see him go to the NFL every year. Then like the next year, you're like, who the fuck is this? And there's a lot of times it's like guys like Elijah can't see, which he was not highly touted coming out of high school. It's it's got, I mean, I don't believe Aaron Donald was highly touted. I don't know. He was a second round pick. That's what I'm saying. They just keep guys. They keep, they keep guys. Aaron Donald? No. Oh, no, he was. He was picked a couple picks before Beckham. Why did I think he was after? No, he, but he was not a big recruit, but yeah, I wouldn't be surprised that he was a lower recruit coming out of high school. The schedule, look, I mean, the noncon starts off home to Kent State. They're horrible. They're one of the worst teams in all the college football and the FBS love max. That's a win at Cincinnati. Cincinnati beat him last year upset him. I do think pit is better than Cincinnati right now. I, I got them two and O and then comes the, the, what the 107th backyard brawl. This game, I have no fucking idea. So true toss up. Very loseable, but Aaron Donald, by the way, was a 13th three star recruit. Oh, wow. Then you have Youngstown State. Count that as a win. So that's insane. They could be very well before and over there. That West Virginia game is going to be bonkers like it always is, but I like West Virginia and I came. The home teams won the last three. But my point is, even if we said three and one, then what? After you and see after the bi-week. Yeah, those are winnable games, man. I mean, I know we like one on one. Let's say one on one there for that's four and two. Then another bi-week. That would be one flaws in the bi-week or two. It's such a, some of these schedules. It's like guys, we have, we have easy to use AI now. Can we, can we do better at the scheduling and not have the bi-weeks three weeks apart? I wonder if it has something to do with that stadium being, you know, like if they don't know in that stadium, that's what I'm saying. Like they got to get time. Yeah. But then on a Thursday night, they're home to Syracuse, very winnable at SMU. Look, SMU is kind of like a finesse team. I think pit could be the type of team to really give SMU some problems. Virginia at home and, and then Clemson at home, which I liked them to upset Clemson there. And then at Louisville, which is their toughest road game of the season, and then at Boston college. But when you really think about it, like there's no game that they can't win on the schedule. Now that doesn't mean they're going to be 12 and oh, but I'm just saying like, I like the over just because I do think they could, they could beat every single team on the schedule. So bringing it back to Sean's question about the quarterback, he was a top 25 pro style quarterback per 24 seven and was potentially ended up at pit because of his injury senior year. So maybe he's got a little also brought in Alabama backup from a year ago, Eli Holstein. Okay. Holstein's always a good name type of cow, actually, you know, yeah, I went to a land grant school. So big time. I think over is the play though. I do think they go bowling. I think Narduzi saves his job. You know, six wins. This is a very low number. Yeah, it's weird. You would have to be trash. And he's like a junior or something like that. But let's talk about this. They get Clemson at home. There's no Florida state. Yep. There's no Miami. I mean, they're going to beat Clemson. They're going to win six games. There's no NC state who some people from a wind total perspective is ranked there or Virginia tech. Yeah, they miss all the good teams. Because what did we say? The top we said that the top six in the in the conference per the odds are Florida state, Clemson, Miami, Louisville, they get Clemson and Lucy state and Virginia tech. Those are the top six. That's not bad. And I love them getting Clemson on November 16th because it's going to be cold. Oh, I know they're going to be Clemson circle that one. Well, what's the, what do we say? The number wasn't that one? That I don't, by the way, Pitt is a laying 23 and a half against Kent state. If you wanted that number, lay it catching four and a half against West Virginia. I don't see the number for the, I'll take the points. I'll take the point. So we're all in the over all on the over lock it up new gamer over new baby bitch comer to the ACC. Oh, wow. We know we'll do whatever you want. We won't take any money. Please just let us in. Please, please, please just let us in. I didn't know last year in their, um, their whatever conference 11 and two overall, please let us in. Please, please, please. They are the perfect fit for the Illumina, not any conference to expand into Texas. They're going to save the ACC because, yeah, they got the definitely came back there. So they announced Sean that they were going to the ACC. I think it was in August. Yeah. If not September and might actually might have been September. Yeah. And the money guns came out. Dude within like three months, they raised $160 million. How much of it was private equity from the Middle East? It does. It is funny thinking of sheaks. I must get involved in SMU. We need that damn quarterback from Georgia. I know that's not anywhere close to the accent, but just I read it. I was a dead ringer. I read Phil Steel. He said they are stock market indicator going up. Well, you must buy, buy, buy. Actually, that's a funny premise is Phil Steel is getting flown over to Dubai to fill. Oh, we got to ask. And what's the meat Mr. Steel? We got to ask him if they have reached out. Yeah. Where should we dump our oil of money? Well, you see here, I think I think Syracuse do for some positive regression. Bye. Bye. Bye. The new boulevard collective. Is that the name? Oh, that's shady. In case, in case you're operating that one, in case people don't realize this the most that we have on on now private schools, we don't have they don't withhold this. So, but the, I mean, they don't have to declare what they praise. Yeah. Yeah. I can't talk. And, but the most we've seen is A and M number one in the nation raised like $150 million or no, it was like $140 million. Because SMU in three months got $159 million. Yeah. What were those people doing with that money for like, wait, I can, I can invest in SMU football. I honestly think it makes him the most interesting program in the country moving forward. I, yeah, but I mean, I understand like 10, 20 bucks. Yeah. Hey, $100. Get my team of Jersey. Like massive investments. There's no return. All right. So, I mean, why are we not opening a college? This unprecedented achievement underscores the unwavering support and commitment of the SMU community. If it turns out to be from the Middle East, that will be pretty fun alumni and supporters towards advancing the university's athletic programs. This landmark fundraising year was punctuated by the unprecedented $100 million donated into just seven days following September first announcement of SMU joining the conference. This is just this is just based on last year's taxes. So that's not, that, that, that's start. That's not on January 1st or December 31st. Yeah. These transformative gifts came from the newly formed first week society, which sounds even shadier, definitely Illuminati, a collection of 30 individuals who generosity launched a $125 million campaign to support the department's transition to the ACC. I'll say this. This is the first beautiful society. This, this is why college football is incredible, because Texas said, Hey, we're going to go to the SEC, the SEC is planning all these other things. NIL becomes legal. I got more numbers, a record for eight figure gifts. I mean, I realize there's a lot of money in oil, but how are there four separate people willing to donate $10 million plus to SMU football, 35, seven figure gift. If you know the history, you know, Pony Express, imagine, imagine being one of the guys who donates like $5 million. And you can't, you don't even have like the most juice in SMU. You're like, Hey, can I get field passes? Sorry, man. Maybe we can get you in for the boss of college game. Maybe two people. I can't get field tickets. I gave you fuckers, five million dollars for individuals, a donor or organizations donated eight figures, 35 donated seven figures and 82 donated six figures, six figures. If people aren't familiar with like the Pony Express, Eric Dickerson and Craig James and Michael Carter and Jerry Ball, they, they, this team was loaded in the eighties with Ron Meyer coaching and they, they basically, they bought a bunch of players and then they got in trouble for it. But the irony is if you do a real deep dive on this is that, you know, A&M and Texas were buying players and they're the ones that kind of had a lot to do with dealing them the death penalty. So for years, they've been quiet. This is what I just love about this era now is you have this program. So Texas moves to the SEC, but all of a sudden in the midst of that, they announced that before we knew NIL was going to happen, right? NIL becomes legal. And then you have this, this is a, this is a sleeping fucking giant, truly a sleeping giant that could just set college football on fire. I think it's so great for the sport and so great because you think everyone's thinking, well, Texas is going to come in and dominate. You bring it in all this money, you're going to own the state of fucking tech. You can go toe to toe with the University of Texas. Believe it or not, if you're bringing in that much, you just brought it in three months. You just brought in that much money. It's fascinating. Well, and we have seen this before where like it's just a one year spurt. So it can. This was a, this was a three month spurt. Yeah. It's funny. I was trying to dig into the Texas A&M stuff and there is a art, Texas A&M put out an article called correcting misinformation about our university. Sounds like someone might be, might be guilty. They're the most interesting team in college football. All right. So they're must watch every week now moving forward. They were good last year. They're total this year, seven and a half minus one 75 to the over plus one 45 to the under 18 to one to win the conference, 300 to one to win the national championship. So I assume this unlimited money bought them a roster. Yes. They went out and very active in the portal. They also have five star quarterback Preston Stone, former Alabama running back Jalen Knighton. They, they just have a, are we aren't like to me, my instinct is just to fade a team like this moving up in conference, you know, cause it's to, to your point, like, yeah, they brought in all this money. Can you really turn it around? And not that they were a bad team, but they dominated the American conference. Now you're going to the ACC. It's a big jump up. I don't know. My instincts are just to take the under. Uh, you know, the schedule, let's go. Let's go. Let's take a look at the schedule because I think there's a schedule nice. Uh, it could be that Nevada's not in a good Houston Christian's not in a good BYU. I love the Mormons against the Methodist. Uh, please. Oh, wow. Fantastic. Is that a thing? Is that a rivalry? Uh, no, but it should be. Keep doing it. It's my point. But bring it off the field onto the field. Uh, then you got one of the last battles of the iron skillet, uh, on September 21st with TCU. Um, that's a hard schedule right there though. BYU TCU, cause the TCU game, even if their records are, you know, if TCU's windless, still, it's still a crazy game. Uh, then, uh, Florida state in Louisville, that's, that's a tough four game stretch right there. So yeah, I would say right there they should be. That's my biggest question is Rhett Lashley. I don't know that he's a good, like a great football coach. Great football coach name. So the jury's still out on him to me last season. They dominated, but they had coming into it. They had the weakest schedule to me in the AAC. So we were all over SMU. Yeah. That's like a complete like pendulum swing. And we saw it in the big 12 last year, even the teams that we think are good struggled, but the backside of the schedule is very nice. Uh, Stanford, Duke, Pitt, Boston, college, Virginia, and Cal. I mean, who's scheduled that Stanford though? True Boston, college, the Eagles could be a little tough. Cal at home. That's a win. We need to just the idea of Colby looking at the backside of a schedule. Nice girl named schedule. Well, also, I mean, they're not playing. They do miss some of the top teams. I'll take the over. You got, you got to realize the other heavy Illuminati schools too will be up. So the Stanford Duke back to back, that's going to be a tricky one. I'm going to go under. I mean, I see the case. I think I'm probably going to be betting on SMU in some spots, but I'll take the plus money on the under seven and a half with the idea that I just think my instinct to fade teams coming into the conference, I'm going to stick with it, especially a team like SMU that's coming from a sub conference and stepping up. They're laying 24 week zero against Nevada. Yeah, that's in Reno, little elevation, secret elevation spot. You like that one? Taking the point? I probably would. I mean, Nevada's breaking into actually, yeah, give me the points, I guess, but Nevada's breaking in a brand new head coach. That's his first game. I mean, they generally sprinkle a little on the money line, right? No, not at all. Not at all. I'm just taking 24. I guess I would lean there, which is the points, but it's a lot of points. Yeah. Yeah. And like you said, new conference adjustments, easiest schedule last year, a slightly easy schedule this year, but I think if you like them, now either wait till the wind total changes to eight and a half or, or, you know, sprinkle them to win the ACC or something like that. If you play the, play the ceiling outcomes of the SMU teams, or SMU team, the ceiling is they find their way into the conference championship and you can have a piece of 18 and one, but even that doesn't seem like a good enough price. Next up, Stanford, my Stanford is my favorite new team in the conference. What was the point? What was the point of that? This is how you know the Illuminati is true. They got cow. You don't need cow and Stanford. Oh, SMU had George Bush calling on behalf of the university. He didn't even go to the university. You're just as that. That's how you know it's oil money. Right? Yeah. Oh, I'm just all of a sudden interested in SMU's football. Yeah. Are you in that favor from the fucking Gulf war? And they're like, yeah, you look, your dad owes us a favor. All right. SMU help take down the towers. Oh shit. We shouldn't have said that aloud. George Bush shows you what who and why does George Bush, George Bush, oh favors to an SMU. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. And more questions and answers. They're behind the JFK thing too. Stanford is is an interesting one. Three and nine last year. Troy Taylor though, I'm a, I am kind of sold on him being a very good football coach. So like the wind totals, what, two and a half? What was it? Three? The wind. Oh, so yeah, I didn't actually say anything other than Stanford is my favorite new, new team at the conference. That got Colby fired up two and seven in the pack. 12 last year, three and nine overall, three and a half is the wind total. This is the basement of the ACC minus one 40 to the over plus one 15 to the under. So just like the big 12 and the SEC, I think the lowest total adjust to three point eight, 500 to one to win the conference. One thousand to one to win the national championship. They have a ton of returning starters. They do. And it's year two. Like I'm, I'm on the over. I like the over a lot actually. I would, I would look towards the over, but this schedule for this Stanford team is kind of tough. There's two back to back road spots. You got at San Jose state as a noncon game to end the season. You'd rather play San Jose in the beginning of the year too, because they're breaking in a brand new head coach, but I don't care. Like I still think these teams are better than their records because they were in the pack 12 last year. Yeah. No, I mean, that's fair. Like coming down from the pack 12, I think is a little tougher handicap than coming up from the American three and a half is pretty low. Like you can get this over without being a great team. But to that point, who would you say are there guaranteed wins on the schedule? Colby Cal Poly Cal Poly is probably the only guaranteed win, but I mean, I think they could also, you know, like, I think TCU's a toss up game. I think Syracuse could be a toss up game. I think, I don't know about in Syracuse. I think that's a time watch out if I was Virginia Tech. I think that could be a dangerous game. Kramer, you're going to make the trip up to Stanford? Yeah. I think that would be a tickets are available. That's the other thing. Stanford no home field. Tickets are free. My daughter is interested in checking out the school. Maybe we'll go for a trip. Let me ask you this question. Is there any flat out loss Clemson, probably, right? Cause they won the last time they played in South Bend. Just food for thought, you know, Marcus Freeman did lose to Stanford. Yeah. Yeah. Little physicality. I don't know. I mean, it does seem like I already have one over. They're not that can't have another over give me the over. No, I just like the three and a half pretty low. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like they could eat. You feel good about that? Best case scenario. They always have good quarterbacks from fucking Jim Plunk at the John Elway. They always. Yeah. They're a great school. So you're going to get that, that certain class of person that, you know, wants to live a life and play football. All right. Well, I'll take over three and a half, but I, I'm not liking this piece of shit up. Dude, you want to build the best case scenario? They could win a lot of games on this, but they also win two games. Man, I think they're better than what I'll trust you. You are the college football expert Colby. I'm just here for the ride. Just a pretty face. I mean, they got to fix some of the defensive problems from a year ago, but it's year two. I think that they're going to know what he wants off because there was a bit of a shift from a philosophy standpoint. Like he throws the ball around a lot more than previous coach David Shaw. So yeah, I just think they're going to be better this year. I'll take the over. Yeah, I think you have to. I think you have to. And sorry, I got sidetracked reading about this Texas saying I'm saying, ooh, yikes, Syracuse. Now here's a team two and six last year in the conference and the alma mater of the great Tommy DeVito. Sean, I think we were, we were somewhere rubbing elbows with folks. And we heard some pretty hilarious stories about a certain someone who might have given Tommy DeVito a tour of a university. Oh, yes. Sounds like he might be as much of a character as you can imagine. She was a female and he was interested. I still have not reached out to him about his big jersey. Jersey ripped you off. Now I'm thinking I'm going to wait till training camp. Okay, better timing. Don't want to disrupt the flow. Well, I know I kind of do want to disrupt his flow. I'm pretty. Do you think he still has a shot to start this year? No, no, I think he, I think he's actually going to get cut. That's why he was signing jerseys, not with the Giants logo on it. Hmm. Seven and a half is the Syracuse total this year. The Bay Himes are not playing any positions on the football team, unfortunately, plus one 15 to the over minus one 40 to the under 48 to one to win the conference, Sean. This six hundred and one national champions. This could be the outrage. This, this one is this one's gold. This one is because this is the best schedule in America, not the ACC. This is the best schedule in America. And you got a brand new coach coming in from Georgia who, you know, obviously Kirby smart. If he's been following Kirby smart around, maybe we got something going. And then he brings in a shit ton of transfers from Georgia. He brings in Kyle McCord from Ohio State. Fadil Diggs, who's a stud defensive end from Texas say, and they're not going to put up with the crime up there in Syracuse. One year, this is just one year. And then then this happens. I mean, I think this is one of the most interesting teams in college football this year. You've said this about a lot of teams. Well, they're starting to care about football because they realize the writing is on the wall. They're, they're, they realize that, look, you've been getting by off of a just bullshit. You had this long ACC deal. Now you realize that you might get left behind. You could end up in the, in, in just what the big East and independent as football. You know, like, there's a real problem there. And I think they're showing interest. Kyle McCord in a dome. This kid's going to be lighting it up. This schedule. 24 touchdowns, six interceptions in the big 10 better than this schedule, man. I mean, this is so much. I don't know. I got to like someone Syracuse. It's the best schedule in college football. Yeah. I've called me at a conversation before the podcast. Look at this schedule. Kramer, Ohio at home, win Georgia tech at home, win Stanford at home, win Holy cross at home, win at UNLV, win, no empty crowd, empty crowd. They know how to win in domes at NC state. That's a win. No, that's a loss. Okay. That's a loss at pits. They got to buy a week before at pit. But yeah. So maybe they have a shot. They they either beat pit or NC state one loss so far at home against Virginia tech, win at Boston college, win at Cal, win, you can win. Maybe they lose. No, I don't think maybe it puts the pressure that dude, let's say they lose two, let's say they lose to NC state. We can even give them a second loss to Virginia tech or pit. Yeah. Right. That would then fly in if they beat Miami on the 30th, they would play for the ACC championship based on what we've done so far. So let me, let me take you to the next level where Sean, Sean will go order his McCord jersey after he learns. Yes. This bit of information. He's a Jersey kid and he went to high school at St. Joe's in Philly. We're actually played with Marvin Harrison. I did not know that. Marvin Harrison Jr. Yes. Marvin. Yes. Well, I think that's the craziest part. It's like, damn, Marvin Harrison senior still lives in the Philly area. Yeah. Why not? Where he, you know, did some stuff allegedly friendly, friendly law enforcement in that area. Yeah. Well, I mean, again, no need to have a problem. You can Google it seems like things got sorted. So you guys are both on the over for certain. And you really like the schedule called, dude, look at the schedule schedule. I know it's incredible as a hater, but definitely out of the orange arm, I'd say that there's an underrated stretch at Pitt, Virginia Tech, at Boston college, at Cal. You have a lot of road games. I mean, even before that's right before your, but we just said, if we have the other teams losing three games, sure, it puts them in the hunt. Sure. Oh, no, 100% give them three all lose all those three road games in Miami. You're still hitting the over. Yeah. And there's a straight. I don't think we've seen this, but you know, yes, there's a buy in there, but there's a stretch where five out of six games are on the road. That seems like, dude, but look at those environments. You know, these empty pit is empty Boston college is empty. Cal can be empty sometimes. I think there's going to be a lot of cute fans at the UNLV game. All right. I'll join you guys. I, I have no reason to create friction against Sean's cues. You go with orange. Imagine the average. Imagine the average. If you're a Florida state fan, if you're a Clemson fan, if you're a Miami fan, when they haven't thought this new playoff format at enough, there's going to be there. It's either going to be a tiebreaker situation to get into the one of these conference championships and or like what Colby said, you're going to have Syracuse, Louisville playing in the ACC championship and they're going to buy week. They're going to get they're going to get a buy week guys. It's just, well, the college football episode this week, we'll have a segment where we just go over the tie for first and every conference. We really have to because it's, it's a shit show and we got six way tie at the top of the big 10. I just can't wait till November when I see how these big time fan base is so pissed off because the Syracuse is schedule. You know what I mean? Now the co, now that the coastal division doesn't exist to have the chaos. It will just spread throughout the whole, the whole conference. Take that future. What, what is Syracuse to make the playoffs? They don't offer it. That we, the second that drops, you jump on that because, like I said, like if they get Clemson, okay, they lose the ACC championship, but if they get Virginia Tech or NC State or Louisville, they can win. That's a winnable game. We'll have to confirm this when we're out in Vegas, but the, like I have heard from a birdie that the, some places plan on opening. Yes, no is on every team around August. Let's get it. So hopefully it's a little earlier. So Sean and I can take advantage. Oh, we're going to be out there a bunch in the summer again. Come out for a contest weekend, get the open bar. But I mean, let's, if we were just to take the, the basics of like, all right, so the of all the teams we've talked about. Well, the Syracuse be make playoff. Well, that's what I'm telling you. So Iowa who is 41 to one to win their conference, better conference is seven to one to make the playoff and figure they factor big 10. They probably pencil in three teams versus two for the ACC. And so with all of that math sprinkled in there, I would expect Syracuse is somewhere in the 12, 15, I think 20 to one because I don't think they're doing the ACC math. And Syracuse does a football program. If they have, if they don't get in, yeah, I don't know. I think they would still have to get in the ACC championship to make the playoff, right? Yeah, but they could lose it in that scenario. Right. And then you could hedge out your 40 to one. Oh, yeah. Oh, you're saying that's the price you would need. I'm just trying to do math on whether this is I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to, I'm not really looking to play playoffs unless we're talking SEC or big, big, yeah, dear point, and I like it better than the wind total because yeah, don't, I'm looking to play in conferences that they're going to Colby's point. The committee is going to go out of their way to reward the SEC, the big 10, stuff like that. I would just say SEC actually big 10. I'm a little worried about. I think, I think it depends on the team. I think they have a lot of bad teams. That's what I'm worried about, but I don't think that's, yeah, but like let's say Ohio say it is three losses. I still think they would probably get it. Right. I don't think that's where they get three losses, but yeah, I mean, no, but I'm saying like, I think they factor in the program a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. It's always crooked. It's always been crooked. You know what's that crooked rhythm, baby, sports game on podcast.com/rhythm head over there, get started today. The place for a sports picks and props get you set up dominating right now in the WNBA and of course golf, golf picks and props. Again, cash in some nice top 20s, top 10s, rhythm is the place to go. And you can already start building your own models for the NFL college football. Never too early to get started here in the dog days of summer, sports game on podcast.com/rhythm to get started today. Get that free seven day trial sports game on podcast.com/rhythm. That's R I T H M M. Every time you say rhythm, I think about cool runnings. It's hard not to. It really is. It's it's the only Virginia AKA the University of Virginia, AKA the university located in Charlottesville. AKA the wahoos. AKA the Cavaliers. Very confusing. A lot of names. The TV torches. All of them suck. Uh, you know what? You want to, whatever you want to do out there in Charlottesville, it doesn't seem to reflect well. Two and six in conference, three and nine overall in the battle of who got the better head coach hire. When our my Lord and savior coach, Pri was hired. It seems like Virginia Tech is winning that war. I don't see a lot of excitement about around the UVA program. I was very, I was very easily able to troll former members of the UVA team with graphics. This off season, four and a half is the total. I, I got Nate pretty hard a couple of times with, they were like saying, whatever his number was, it was that many days, the football. And I just came in with a hard dig really changed the whole mood of the thread. Anyway, minus 110 each way on that four and a half. Uh, 170 to one to win the conference. 1000 of one. Are they still, is there a chance UVA just drops down and D two? Maybe saves them. They don't see him interested in getting better. Colby can talk about all the great things they've done in the portal. 11th, 11th tough is schedule, according to Phil Steele. They do have returning production. I have to say that because I'm going to use it in a second here to talk about my Hokies. Bring back their whole offensive line. I always liked that. Tony musket. Uh, remember him from the FCS season. He was the quarterback at Monmouth then you think he's going to start over Anthony Kalandria. Kalandria is a fun watch guys. He's a made guy. That's the one thing I'll say. This year's stream. You know who reminds me of is like, I don't know if you guys remember Mark Brunel when, when he was young. No, not in college. No, he's just kind of reckless like that, but he's an athletic guy. Um, but he was a freshman last year and there were certain games where it really popped. He was a little reckless with the football, but he's a gamer. He's fun to watch. There's schedules in fucking saying, dude, they have a ton of road games and they play Richmond, who makes the FCS playoffs every year, right? Their schedule is, I'm not trying to throw a shade, but they, they go, they have road games. Basically their entire, like every section of their schedule, they have, they have tough road spots and the schedule ends insanely tough. Mm. And he's coaching for his life, by the way. What's the optimism? Yeah, he lost the state. It's done. We, the ref came in. They're throwing the towel and look at the recruiting numbers in Virginia. It's over. It's, it's undone. Whatever this fucking piece of shit Justin Fuente did in Blacksburg has been undone by coach, pry, uh, anything, anything. They got to stay in my opinion. If they're going to hit the over, they got to start hot. So he got Richmond at home and at wake Maryland at home rivalry game there. Yeah. And I'm on the, I'm a teal turf. They would have to start really hot. Like those are winnable games, but they're also loseable games. Yeah. It feels like two and two Sean, their, their football games that are both winnable and a lot of UVA schedule historically, it normally you look at, you say, wow, they're going to, they're going to lose every game. Yeah, the first four games are all winnable. They could be four now Boston college at home, maybe Louisville at home. No, at Clemson. No, you and see at home, maybe at pit at Notre Dame. That's not fun. SMU at home. That's going to be tough with the look ahead to at Virginia tech to close out the season. Six wins feels like, um, it's five and a half. I thought it was four and a half, a four and a half. Yeah. It's five wins. To your point, if they go three and one, those first four, I think they got a shot. They're going to lose their last six games. They're certainly not going to be favored. Now they actually have a history of fucking up North Carolina, but I'm with you. I'm on the under and they, they've beaten Virginia tech once in the past, like I, I favor wake. Yeah. I know that you can get that in again. I mean, it's a ridiculous trend. Even Justin Fuente only managed to lose one time to you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's not. And if you've ever been to their stadium, you, you didn't really bring it up. Like you brought up for other schools, but their home, their home edge is zero and that stadium is awesome. That's the worst part about it. Why you want to talk about one stadium and they just, they just don't know that they have a gem. How big is Scott stadium? Because it's basically the wine and cheese crowd you get at the Rose Bowl. If the Rose Bowl only held 60,000 people, it's a great stadium too. They just, they're cowards down there. I mean, that whole like the whole like hell and, but yeah, they're cowards and it's in Charlottesville. Well, I know this because you can't find a sports bar there. Well, yeah, it's because there's nothing. There's not any bar in Charlottesville that has a TV. They don't watch it. Go watch lacrosse outside like a normal person. All right. Now there are a couple teams in the state of Virginia in the ACC. The other one, Virginia Tech, AKA the Hokies, five and three last year, coach, probably has them fixed. They're on the way. Kyron drones, the offense, scoring points. They got the defense taking six and six overall, showed up nicely in the bowl game. I don't give a shit what you say about two lanes state at the time Colby. Eight and a half is this year's total plus one 50 to the over minus one 80 to the under. 12 to one to win the conference. That price was much bigger earlier in the summer, 300 to one to win the national championship. That price was much bigger before I walked to the window multiple times, fired shots at 500 to one, 500 to one, 400 to one. No big deal. Kyron drones plus two, 250 to one Heisman, 200 to one Heisman, 150 to one Heisman riding that bitch like that bull I talked about at middle Tennessee state might have been the previous episode. Sean, you know, like they're getting a ton of fucking hype this year. I know that's a problem with Kramer and his Virginia Tech love anytime. It's like this is the year. No way they're going to blow it. Well, if you throw out the bowl game, which is two lanes, coach had already left for Houston. And he took a bunch of his players with them, right? So they basically played two lanes backups. If you take that out, this is a team. This is a team that went six and six, but they didn't beat one team with a winning record. This is a team that lost to a bad Purdue team. They gave up over seven yards of rush from Rutgers. Marshall got them in the sun belt. Look, I understand it's great to have all those players back and they are recruiting better. And they were, I thought they won the transfer portal. But I also think like, are we that insane to just all of a sudden think they turned some corner? Cause they beat two lane by a bunch of points in the rain in Maryland when they had half their roster out. I'm not sure I like your attitude right now. But the schedule is nice. Oh, now we got a new schedule. You like to schedule for them. I do love the schedule for them, because the road spots, well, but the exception of that road game to old dominion, which watch knowing their history, they will lose that game probably. Fuck you. Don't get stuck in the elevators just to, if you watch that a couple of years ago at halftime, pretty, pretty sad to have the coaches got stuck. The coaches got stuck in the game got delayed. But no, Which prize to save the day? Do they just use? We don't need the jaws of life coach Brian. You got this? Yeah, he can, he can do any sort of miracle. I'm with you Colby. I'm sure Kramer's going to make a compelling case about how everything's fixed. They're back. They have an entertainment, but I worry about this Virginia tech team with expectations. Coach Pride was doing Yomans work, making, you know, polishing some turds. They are making it look good when there's no one expects anything. But now with the wind total of eight and a half and no FCS game. If you're, if you're, and kudos to Virginia tech for their noncon, but it you're playing Rutgers, two power fives, Vanderbilt Rutgers. If you want to call them power fives and then Marshall and old dominion at old dominion, you're also at Vanderbilt and your fans can't even travel because the half the stadium is under construction, which was genius by Vanderbilt. The schedule is nice though, Rutgers at home at Miami at Stanford at Miami. There's no fans at Miami. So and Stanford look, look at all their environments. That's going to be hot. Do you remember what you remember what coach Bud Foster said to us about, try to cover it covered being really, really dry two years ago. Yeah. And Colby, you would admit they they've recruited at a very high level over the past two seasons. They've hit the portal at a very high level over the past couple of seasons. Yes. They've bolstered a roster that was already starting to have a show some results last year. They return the most production in the country overall. They return the most production in the country on the offensive side of the ball. Kyron Jones will be a legitimate Heisman plays like the T if the offense plays like they did down the stretch and all the receivers came back because they wanted to play with this guy one more time. They had and they got some dudes. This isn't this kind of reminds me of the old the the old days, the Eddie Royal days. I mean, the schedule is great. They got like schedules. Like Colby said, road spots. What are we worried about? Is it Vanderbilt? Is it Miami? Is it Stanford? Is it is it Syracuse? Syracuse. Like which one of these riveting road for ball environments? Are you terrified? Yeah. Syracuse is weird. They turn on the fucking electromagnetic device in the roof and Jim Bam's cooking, picking boogers energy is still there. What game on like like to Colby's earlier points about the big boys, they don't miss each other as much. And if if it turns out that one of these teams that shouldn't have made it there ends up with one loss and gets into the championship game, everything to losses because you're not going to like all you have to do is just beat Clemson. Here's your tiebreaker. Here's a prediction I'll make. They are going to Miami is going to be embarrassed after that Friday night game. That looked the hook to the Hokies have a like a meaningful home Thursday night. I know they play Boston college and that game is going to be scary for me because of fucking douche bag. Matt Ryan, but this Friday night game in Miami is going to be a tee. It's going to sound like a Hokies home game. Oh, you win the gobble gobble and they are going to, but this is, but that, that's crazy that the, the, the, I think old domain is the scary game is the Stanford game because they'll let them stay. I do think that's a day. They're going to beat Miami. That's going to be the catapult into the rankings. People talking about Kyron drones for Heisman. That here's my Kyron drones. Heisman price dropped officially dropped sub 25 to one after the Miami game. That's my prediction. Josh making up. Please, please, please, please. Hold on. I'm going to, I'm going to add this into my calendar. Yeah. We're talking Friday, September 27. No. So put, put in your calendar for a Tuesday. Whatever the Tuesday after Friday, September 27th on that show, we're going to talk about how what Kyron drones Heisman prices. So tune in October 1st, Kyron drones Heisman odds. Oh, this is going to be excellent. We need to do more calendar reminders. Yeah. So we actually follow up on things we say on the 25 to one, lock it in. If you'd like to officially maintain the SGP calendar of things we say on the show, hit it, hit us up podcast. That's what I'll give you the override since you gave my QC over. I'll give you the overtook schedules, comicalies. Hold on. Let's just don't also forget that Virginia Tech officially brought college football back when they played North Carolina when they lose the Marshall. Don't let it ruin NFL week one. That's all I'm asking. When they get, I don't want negative when Marshall completes the sweep. They won last year. I know. Right. So they win that home and home. But I'll just never forget. Honestly, like opening Virginia Tech season openers to me. Like I bend to a bunch, what traveled to Washington play Alabama, Boise State, a bunch of these, like kind of fun. They don't, they're not Pussy's. They'll play anyone kind of games, but I'll never forget my, it might have been my first year living in California when they opened against LSU and Virginia Tech had this phenom five star elite 11 quarterback named Tyrod Taylor that was supposed to red shirt, but Sean Glennon sucks so bad. That wasn't LSU. That was ECU buddy. And ECU beat them 27 22 in Charlotte on August 30th because that's what we do. We take down you count. No, no, you removed this from the schedule. It was a, we had a long, it was four years previous. We were supposed to be playing every year. No, you guys are coward for taking us off the schedule. What you guys did on that day after a tragedy happened on the campus of Virginia Tech. Well, there was a tragedy in Charlotte. You, you low bar. When you come down there, you low bar mouth breathing motherfuckers from East Carolina down here with your fucking agriculture and all your nonsense news flash. East Carolina is not a state. Yeah. Okay. News flash. All right. Put us on the schedule again. Put us on the schedule again. We'll beat you some more. Happy to. I wish they would bring West Virginia and ECU back every year. Happy to. But yeah, no, it was LSU. And what I was going to finish with that story was that is the, like the drunkest I've ever been because it's like, to this day, I don't remember. I remember Tyrod going in the game and being like, fuck it. Everything. Like life sucks and everything. It was the beginning of football. I have no one. What game was that? Yeah. This was, I just remember drinking a bunch of monster and vodka and saying, I'm just going to black out. Well, I think you might bust down this door when Diego pissing Pavia pulls the upset week one, Sean, we could still hit that over though. We could still hit that over. But I got Vanderbilt getting it done. That's enough. Talk. Let's get through with this bullshit wake team. Four overs on one in one episode. I think I set the record. So apologies for that. Wake Forest. One in seven in the conference, four and eight overall, four and a half is the total this year, minus one 40 to the over plus one 15 to the under two, 90 to one to win the conference, one thousand and one to win the natty. Wait. I mean, to me, like I would, I would take wake over Stanford and some of the other bottom dwellers to be the worst. And I think they're even worse than you, UVA. Really? I don't. So they got a guy named Dave Closin. Yeah, you're right. But that, but that the roster sucks again. And he was four and eight last year and they had Dave Closin last year. I understand that. But his track record has been pretty damn good. And even if you look at that four and eight season, you look, you look at a five point loss at Clemson, you know, three point loss to Duke, four point loss to cues. They were better in their record. Give me the overall day. Hank Bach, my are coming in. Former Boise State quarterback. Yeah. I mean, the offense is turning over a bit. So you have to have some faith that he's going to be able to manufacture. 15 returning starters. Nice schedule for wake. But most of that's on the defensive side of the ball. If I'm not mistaken, they're, they're, they're like a, they're not even a top 25. They build up their program. Sean, he calls it Dave Closin calls it the incubator. So he has everyone there in the incubator. He gets to know they do seem like they're trending in the right direction. Four and eight season last year, them getting a five feels doable. You're laying a little juice, but yeah, I'm with you. Wake on the over Kramer. What do you know? That that's come on. That's, that's lazy. Bach buyers, Bach market, win five games. He was in our college madness thing or whatever. NC A and C UVA. Raging Cagens all at home. Colby at UConn. That's four right wins right there. Colby it. You're you're. Have you done the wake preview? No, but Dave Plosin is no, this one's a guy. Like I'm a Dave Plosin guy. You're not going to switch. He's the guy that brought in Mike Elko. You know, like, he's the guy. Like he's one of the best coaches in college foot. So, so they, they, they start against the trail Fermans, NCA and T Aggies. I got them being two and others start to see. They got the UVA, which in fairness, you're right. They have UVA at home. So there is an exit there, but then Ole Miss loss, maybe the raising cage. That's a win. They'll be at NC State Clemson at UConn. NC State is always insane at UConn at Stanford. That's a tough. They can win. So what, no one goes into the wrench and gets, and gets twisted, right? Cal at UNC at Miami, Duke. Are you sure you want to stick to the over here, Sean? Yep. Under. They could be Miami. Had to get one more under in. Had to get one more under in. One, two, three, four. Four overs, though, Sean. Seven, seven for the entire conference. So not as bad as you think. That's pretty good. That's almost in the middle. All right. Time for lock, lock and futures. Kramer, I'm going to just type in VT over eight and a half. No unlock. Okay. Future Hokies to win the conference. All right. Plus 1200. Okay. Lock number two. You know, I don't have a, that's your future. Yeah. Future is law. I'm going backwards. All right. Well, don't, don't look at me like I'm crazy. What do you mean? Lock number two or what do you want? Lock? I will. Lock number two. We're going to go under on SMU. I think just the conference jump. I know they spent a lot of money. I don't think that's going to get them to win eight games in year one in the ACC. Lock number two down goes UVA under. Okay. For me, easy enough. Syracuse over seven and a half. Oh, that's good. Pick two. And then I also like Notre Dame under Yeah. Under Notre Dame, 10 and a half. They'll be 10 and two, not three. I like that pick. And then Syracuse to win the ACC 48 to one. Let's get paid, baby. Let's, let's talk about this though, because wait, so we have looking at the whole thing. So we would have Clemson nine and three, right? Florida state nine and three, but Clemson would have a lost Georgia in the noncon. So they have two losses in the ACC, right? Yeah. Florida state. We have one of those losses being in Notre Dame. So they would have two losses within the ACC, right? Yep. Louisville though, we're over on the nine, right? They can lose to Notre Dame, and they'd only have one ACC loss. Oh boy. Right. So Louisville would be ahead of them. If we're under on Miami, if we have them at nine and three, they could also be right there. And then this is going to be a hilarious time break. Virginia Tech and Syracuse, we have, well, you know, in that spot as well, as well as potentially S, well, for me, SMU, but also NC state. So eight way tie for first. This is going to be great because all right. I think I have my ACC championship. If I'm going off this being Louisville and either Syracuse or Virginia Tech. Oh, that's excellent. So you can take Louisville six to one Virginia Tech at 12 to one and Syracuse at 40 year to one. That's a nice sport for us. Call me. What are you doing? Let's lock up the, what are we doing here? Let's go post you pack under. Now I'm going to take the pit over five and a half as a lock. I will almost like that. I will also lock Stanford over three and a half. Are you locking up Narduzi to finish the season? I think I think I think he makes a bowl and they say that it salvages his, you said like 14 times. He wasn't every other schedule. I had no dones. He's probably fired. It could be. He could be. We need a super cut of all right. Just like he could fumble. He could fumble. You know what I mean? Like, give me Stanford over three and a half as the other one. Earth could be flat. And then the future. The future is a shout out to producer Josh. Realize. Let's ride that Syracuse one show. They're in a good spot. Let's go. Real arrangement. You could have taken Virginia Tech. I see what you're doing over here. That old dominion game is pretty scary. I know. This team is going to be so fired up. Thank you everyone for tuning in. Check out a part one. Check out all our college football conference previews, our fantasy football previews, NFL team previews right around the corner. 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The guys (@GamblingPodcast) continue their NCAA Football Conference Previews with the ACC Conference. They're joined by Colby Dant (@TheColbyD) from The College Football Experience as they give their college football betting preview for the ACC conference including NC State, Notre Dame (Honorary ACC Member) Syracuse, Virginia Tech and more. We preview college football team win totals for the ACC teams as well as player props, futures and more.
