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Sorry, I've gone full Biden today and I'm just calling everybody by old co-host names. And I apologize for that. But go ahead and give me some money to run for president. Here, Jesus Christ, that NATO summit last night was brutal. - Yeah, it was pretty rough. - What the fuck are they gonna do? (clears throat) - I mean, I've said for what a year now that I think they're gonna punt on this election. - But it's him, like I watched the whole presser afterwards and he was, you know, screaming at one point. - Oh yeah. - Whispering in another world quietly. - Yeah, he just like, he was whispering and then he looked off and to the right. - Yup, like stage right. And it started raw, fucking get 'em. Like, who are you talking to, dude? - I don't know. - I mean, it was bizarre, to be honest. Not as bizarre as people were saying, "Oh, thank God he actually showed up." 'Cause there's a lot of people on the left who were like, "Oh yeah." That's the Biden we love, like, is it? - Is it? - The guy who doesn't remember words and shit, huh? - So we'll start, did you watch? - Yeah, we'll start with the first clip too, by the way. But that was on a teleprompter, did I watch what? - These were all on teleprompter. - Oh, I didn't know that. - So the second part was too? - Yeah. - That NATO speech was all on teleprompter and then he did question and answer afterwards, but he said, "I'm gonna call for questions from a list of names that I was given." And he asked prescribed questions and he read off a teleprompter, the responses. I don't know if you could tell when you were watching it, but it was very obvious to me. - Well, he had notes in front of him, so it would make sense. 'Cause another radio host came out and said that the White House had called and they demanded that there was an edit. So in those series of radio interviews that he did last week, not only was one host fired, another host said that they were asked by the White House to edit out certain parts of the interview, which they oblige. We'll start with him introducing Zelensky. Do you have that clip, Bob? Because with that one, man, this was on a prompter and all you had to do was three sentences, that's it. Just a three sentence intro. Here we go, here's President Zelensky. - And now I want to hand it over to the president of Ukraine who has as much courage as he has determination. Ladies and gentlemen, President Putin. (audience applauding) - President Putin, he's gonna beat President Putin. President Zelensky, I'm so focused on beating Putin. We got to worry about it. Anyway, Mr. President-- - I'm better. - You are hellhole better. (audience laughing) There's another angle, Bob, that shows Zelensky as he says that. I don't know if you can find that, but that one's like, Zelensky's like, "Oh, man." You know what, I bet Zelensky felt like in that moment. He felt like when you're at your grandma's house and she's already given you 10 bucks and she has dementia, she's like, "Hey, you want 10 bucks?" Like, "Yeah, I'd like to take another 10." I'll take another 10. - So in this angle-- - Now I want to hand it over to you. - Wait, before you play this, Bob, in this angle, I felt the opposite. I felt like he just saw someone stealing all of his money out of his bank account, or he was just like, "Oh shit, Trump's gonna win "and I'm not gonna get any more money for this guy." - You may be. - That's it. Press play on this angle. - Now I want to hand it over to the president of Ukraine who has as much courage as he has. Determination. - If he has courage, why is it-- - Ladies and gentlemen, President Putin. - He's wearing army clothes. - President Putin. (audience applauding) - He's gonna beat President Putin. - Oh boy. - He just saw all that money being sucked out of his bank account. - Let me ask you this. Why is he wearing fucking Odie Green pants and a black pullover? You don't have a suit? - No. - You're at the fucking U.N. Faggot. - He came off the front lines, Dan, and then he just-- - No, he's never been in a fucking fist fight in his life. - He was able to show up for this after being on the front lines. He probably just choppered in because he was fighting, and he was like, "Ah shit, I gotta go do this thing with Biden and get some more money. I'll be right back, and then I'll be back to the front lines." His whole outfit has been intentional since the get-go. That he's the guy, he's been on the front lines, all this other shit. At this NATO summit, I agree with you. This makes zero sense. That you can't wear a fucking suit. You're not the one who's personally in this war. - Yeah. - It's everyone else. - It's the half a million Ukrainians you've sent to die for no reason because the West told you to. - Yeah. - That's all that really is. - It is, and what was the thing he got his wife? Was it a Bugatti? - Yeah. - Great, great. So that guy right there just realized, "Oh fuck, I got four more months before this is all done here." Now Biden can write some more checks up until January 20th, but after that, I have a feeling this is all over for him, and he realized it there in that moments. Then the NATO summit happens about an hour later. Now here's the wild thing with this, and I don't know whose fault this was or why, but it was pushed an hour, which pushed this into prime time, which knocked out the SBS that were on ABC for-- - I mean, to be fair, nobody watches that shit anyway. - No, but there's nothing else on it. But there's also every single network, but every single network, they broke into it. So ABC, CBS, Fox, all the big four, they broke in for this, and then they played this, and then they did maybe 20 minutes afterwards of a recap. So David Mirror, like I was watching ABC last night, David Mirror came on afterwards and was like, "Well, that was the president speaking, and how do you guys think it went, and should he still be president?" And the answer was, "I don't think so. There was good moments, and there was bad moments." And then other people were coming in and just saying it was fucking horrific. Play the clip where he calls his vice presidents, not Kamala Harris. - You referred to Vice President Harris as Vice President Trump. Right now Donald Trump is using that to mock your age and your memory. How do you combat that criticism from tonight? - Listen to him, that's what he says. - So that was the question, played from the actual speech. - Go back and play that video, you were just playing, though, 'cause you'll see him. This is when he was getting ready to walk off stage. - Yep. - Back up a few slides, thank you. - I'm going to come back to that criticism from tonight's. - Listen to him. - This concludes tonight's-- - And I watch him walk off stage. - Thank you, everybody. - Oh, you don't, it doesn't show in that video. - Yeah, the rest of that video, by the way, when it was live. - Yeah, he barely made it off the fucking state. - It looks like Mr. fucking Magoo. - He looked like he shit his diaper. - Yeah, well, he may have pooped a little bit. - That's what I, 'cause it was that stilted slow walk, but yeah, play the clip where it was live, Bob. - Look, I wouldn't have picked Vice President Trump to be Vice President, 'til I think she's not qualified to be President. So let's start there. - Okay, so you can press pause on that right now. So the difference between that gaffe, as the media's calling it, and not dementia, the difference between that gaffe and the first one, at least in the first one was Zelensky, he called himself. And he said, oh, man, I didn't mean Putin. I meant, we're trying to beat Putin. He didn't catch this and just finished out the rest of his speech. The reporter we showed was at the end of this, who came back and said, hey, bro, so that speech you just gave, Trump is already using this on social media, and he never corrected himself, and he never said Kamala Harris. So I don't even know how long the meds are working, how long he's in tune for, and then what happens after this? Because I want the meds. - That he's on? - Just tell me what the cocktail is, and I'll try it on the show. I'll take it, and then we'll see if it's a better show. - Boy, I bet it's so intense that it wouldn't be. Imagine a guy like me on those fucking things. - You just hear like a high pitch ringing in your ears? - Bro, it would be like Alex Jones on steroids, dude, if I did some shit like that. My God, man. - Or like a whale getting raped. (laughing) - And then scroll down, Bob, to that picture. The internet is so fucking fast. - Yeah, dude, this-- - This was up during the speech. - Yes, dude, I went to Twitter. This was up, I would say less than two minutes after he made that remark about Kamala Harris being president or vice president Trump there, and this was up, this was the picture. - Who's account was this, 'cause it's genius? - I don't know whose account this is, this is not the person who made it. But-- - I mean, it's just an AI program that puts people together. - Yeah, this-- - You can use code of the lens here. - You can use code of the lens here. - And there's code of the lens here. - And Zielinski there, kudos to you. The internet is undefeated. - This is why the internet exists. - Yeah, that's it. - I don't care about anything else. - No, me neither. Me neither. But now everybody's asking what they should or shouldn't do, because at the end of this press conference, defiantly, once again, he was screaming, like you said earlier, I'm staying in this race, I'm the guy for this job, and I'm gonna complete what I started. Is that good or bad for everybody? I don't know, I mean, I said this on fake news where I think for Trump, you just let him keep going, 'cause that Trump's been invisible for 10 days, which he should be. Like, let these interviews keep happening. At this point, I don't want anybody else to take over. Like, let Joe go and you're starting to get to the point where even if they replace him with Kamala, that's too late, so either option doesn't matter. - Again, I'll go back to what I said before. I think that certain people wanted to punt on this election. Probably Obama, 'cause they didn't feel like they could win it. There's no way to leapfrog Joe and Kamala. I think everybody knows that. If you throw, if you do push Joe out of the race and Kamala runs and loses, that's a bad look for the next woman or woman of color to run, right? If you're gonna be the first one, you better win, like Obama did, right? They waited until they knew they were gonna win to actually run that guy. 'Cause a lot of, at least on the left, a lot of popular black dudes have tried to run for President before Jesse Jackson was one of them. - Yep. - Actually, he almost primary fucking Jimmy Carter in '80, but when Reagan ended the race, he was like, "Well, I'm not beating him," so it's like you can't be the Republican from California in a federal race, it's not gonna happen. So it withdrew from that, but, I mean, and they were good black candidates through the '90s as well. None of them wanted to run against Clinton 'cause you couldn't win against Clinton, right? Nobody wanted to run against Bush because Gore was Clinton's guy. You couldn't leapfrog him. They didn't become obvious until what was it? The convention in 2004 at the DNC, where Obama spoke was like, "Oh, that's gonna be..." In 2000, everybody knew in 2008 he was gonna be President. - Yeah. - So. They don't wanna, I don't think they wanna fuck up the path for the next woman that runs. - Well, the surprising thing to me is, immediately after he finished last night, I think the media is starting to realize, "Oh shit, it doesn't matter what we do, "we're not getting him out of there." - So, there wouldn't be the first woman that runs. - For President? - Yeah, I mean, but she would get trounched is what I'm saying. Like, you can't fucking... - Oh, I agree. - Hillary did well. She won the popular vote. You know what I mean? She did well. She just happened to not win that election. If you run Kamala Harris, that is like, she's gonna lose in a landslide. - Yes. - Especially in the electoral college. I don't know about what the popular vote would look like, but I don't think she would get more than like 60 or 70 electoral votes. - Oh yeah, it would be... - She would get wiped. - She would get wiped, I understand. - They thought they had that situation already. - Yeah, and they were right at the time. They were right. They just didn't understand what Trump brought to the table. They didn't understand the populism that was going on in the US at the time. And they fucking doubled down on it by fucking Bernie Sanders over and pushed a lot of people over. And I don't think they read that well either. But Hillary, if they had done things the right way, if they had bought Bernie off at the very beginning, they probably would have won to be honest and Trump never would have been President. - Even Bernie, with it being a populist movement at that time, people fucking love Bernie. The crowds he was drawing in 2016 were just as massive as Trump. - That's what I'm saying. All Hillary had to do was make a few concessions to the Democratic socialist people. Like, all right, cool, we'll look at this. We'll look at getting rid of student loans or whatever. And they Bernie, and then make Bernie the fucking secretary of fuckery or whatever, right? - Yeah. - And then that's it. She would have won that election. They just fucked it. I mean, they stole defeat from the jaws of victory in that one. - Well, we found out later what actually happens when they ran her dock on Hulu. She hated Bernie Sanders in real life. And she was not shy about it. - You know what? A lot of people don't like each other and they still work together. - Yep. - You and I, for example, we hate each other. - Yeah. - Like as soon as the cameras are off, it's bad. - Yeah, jack off on your leg, like that guy in Philly. - Yeah, and then that's why we keep playing the Meek Mill audio because he's putting bounties out on people doing that now. - Right, right. - But for real, I wouldn't, I'll say this. I wouldn't be shocked if Trump said Ron DeSantis was gonna be his VP on Sunday. I wouldn't, that wouldn't shock me at all. - Really? - It would shock me. - It would not shock me at all. It would be a very smart move as well. - Look, I think so too, but so far we've heard nothing. - So you haven't heard anything about anything. All you've heard is the fucking little bits that Trump has leaked out. And we know, I think everybody knows that Doug Bergam and Marco Rubio are not real choices. - I agree. - It's the Peter principle. It's like you have to fucking have a couple in there to make, they're like, well, at least it's not Bergam. At least it's not Rubio's thirsty all the time. Fuckin' JD Vance, all right, we'll take him. - I genuinely hate both of those too. If they were in, I would be very, very disappointed. - Yeah. - I read a stat the other day. I don't know that it will be DeSantis. And I think if DeSantis is aware of the stat, I think he should stay away from it. - You know what vice presidents records are running for president? - No. Well, in the early days of the Republic, they were really bad. I think the first two, one. And then it wasn't until John Quincy that a VP won again. So it was a while, I don't know about recently. - They're six and 12 all the time. - Yeah. - So they're pretty underwater. - So Adams won after Washington. Jefferson actually beat Adams. So I don't know if you would, I don't know how you count that, but I guess that would be a win for the VP. But then another one didn't win until John Quincy. And then after him, I don't think it was 'cause Lincoln was never a beep, right? Like neither was FDR. - And by the way, not only that, only four sitting vice presidents have ever won election for president. - So Adams. - Jefferson. - Jefferson fucking George H.W. Bush. - And Van Buren. - Martin Van Buren. - So only one has done it since the 20th century. So it's actually not a good path to the presidency. - Well, I guess that's true 'cause you just inherit all the baggage from that presidency, whether you were in charge of anything or not. I mean, that's what fucked up Biden more than anything. To be honest, if Biden had been a Senator through Obama's presidency and it was him versus Hillary, he probably would have won that nomination. - So I kind of think, I thought about it a little more. And I kind of think I have a form depending on why I think they wanted Hillary over Biden in 16. I think there was, obviously the woman played a part, but if you want to talk about Obama in particular, why he wanted Hillary, I think there was a certain amount of smugness and want for polish and wanting to leave behind a kind of good old boyism. - Yeah, like where Joe Biden's like, this is a big fucking deal or the fact that he leaked the marriage equality thing that was coming down the pipe. - Yeah. - I think they wanted to be more buttoned up, more serious. And that's not Joe Biden. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? Like Joe Biden's like, "Hey, yeah, no, no, whatever." - Yeah, but think about the way that played out. Think about Trump versus Hillary. - I agree. - How are you trying to debate him? And he's like, "Nah, bro, yeah, yeah, yeah." - No, I completely agree. It's the antidote for Trump in 16 would have been someone exactly like Joe Biden. - Yeah, I mean, they put way too much faith in the American public, frankly. The American public is stupid. - Yeah. - And if there's a clown on stage, they're gonna watch. - And I'm one of those people. Like, yeah, I wanna see the fucking clouds go. Give me, I want to be entertained. But when this all ended last night, the media is starting to shift. So Bob, if you can go to Drudge Report, just go to the homepage there. And Drudge is just a fucking aggregator. Obviously he's switched to the left now. Go up to that poll in the top left. So it says the, this is NPR and PBS News and Maris National Poll. Look, I don't believe in any fucking polls and I sure as fuck don't believe in this. It switched. So they have Biden up by two points in this election against Trump. And I don't understand how or why. - What do you mean you don't understand? This makes perfect sense to me. I think a hobo would probably win a popular vote against Trump. Because, and this is a popular vote poll. - Oh, this is a popular, so this isn't who would be at the actual president of the United States. - This is not odds for president. This is asking some sample of people who they would vote for. - Yeah, and is it like, what's the scientific basis for it? Is it registered voters, likely voters? - Yeah, so. - Or everybody. - The only place, if you're talking about a general thing like this, this totally makes sense. What you want to look at is the state stuff. What does Wisconsin say they would vote for, right? What does Pennsylvania say they would vote for? But just a broad swath of Americans, Trump's not going to win the popular vote. I would be shocked if Trump wins the popular vote. - Really? - Yeah, wins the last time. - At this point? - I think Bush won in 2004, doesn't he? - Yes, he lost the popular in 2000, he won it in 2004. - Yeah, but he was the last repubed to win, and before him, fuck, I don't remember when the last one. I think Reagan and- - HW won. - The popular vote. In '88? - In '88? - In '88? - Who did he run against? - Fuckin'. - Mondale? - No. - Mondale was 84. - It was, as before my time, obviously it was born in '94, so. - It was- - No idea. - Dukakis. - Dukakis. - Yeah, Michael Dukakis. - Oh, shit, yeah. - He won the popular vote pretty handily by eight points. - So you don't think in this current election with everything that's happened to Biden, that Trump won't win the popular vote? - No, Kennedy will win a bunch of votes. - That's true. - He'll get fucking five to eight percent. - Yeah, that's true. I didn't factor him in, but he's not here, he's not on these things, which is odd to me. - But it's just not, these polls are meaningless. - Like this poll, a national poll, like Neat. It's like who gained the most yards? - Right. - That's not what we're counting to win. - Now, 538 underneath, it says Nate Silver is only predicting a 27% chance of victory for Biden. - Well, that's old. Today, it says 50-50. - Come on, man. - I'm pretty sure, well, let me check his Twitter. - That would be fucking nuts. I'm on here now, let me see what it is. Let's say the 12th. All right, so this is as of, oh shit, 10 minutes ago. - He has Biden up. He has Biden wins 51 out of 100, Trump wins 49 out of 100. - How do you get those numbers? - That's what's happening to us. - I think that's straight up, because this is electoral. - This is from 15 minutes ago. Today's four is cast of-- - Oh, that's electoral. So he thinks Joe Biden will be president of the United States. - This is from today, 15 minutes ago on his Twitter. Today's forecast update is out. More of the same though, if you squint, Biden is at his lowest number yet at a 27% chance of winning the electoral college versus 35 pre-debate. - Okay. - He just posted that. - So he, 27% chance that Biden wins the president. Okay. - This page says it was updated today. - Okay, and then what does that one say? - Oh yeah, that page was updated today. I saw that earlier, but I'm reading. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, he says people are engaging in a lot of poll cherry picking, obviously. And that's especially important to consider when evaluating polls with strong house effects. The notion the race hasn't changed since the debate just isn't accurate depiction of reality. It's gone down for Biden quite a bit. That's what he says. - Another interesting question that was brought up from one of the members of the press last night was financing for Biden and what he has left. - Well, not just that. So, God, where is it? I've got this fucking story somewhere. - Well, Joe, I can tell you what Joe said on stage. So Joe said he's got about $220 million and that his war chest is good. - That's not good enough to run for four months, but there's an article floating around today. I don't remember if it was on Drudge or somewhere else, but there's $90 million that DNC fucking people that they have it locked down. It's been frozen until Biden drops out. That's the story anyways. - Okay, because if I'm a donor, then like maybe it's me because I'm fucking poor compared to all this shit that you hear going on. - Why would you give money to him at this point? - This is in the New York Times, donors to pro-Biden super packer said to withhold roughly $90 million. It's frozen until he drops out. - Like if Bob told me he was taking up a collection or a go fund me to help his NBA basketball career, I would be like, man, I'm sorry, Bob, I love you. And I think you're a great guy and you're a great producer, but you don't have a shot at being in the NBA. - Sounds like my fucking dad. - Yeah, exactly. - Fuck you and fuck him. - Yeah, you'll be there. - What's your bull have to say about it? (laughing) I mean, I'm sure he would like you having that extra contract 'cause Jack is right there. - He would love the extra money, lazy piece of shit. - Exactly. But if you're a Biden donor right now, I would say no, and a lot of people have very dealers out. What is it, that's a 15 congressmen and senators to get out of the race? - A lot of rich people donate a lot and then the packs collect a lot of spooky dark money that we don't know where it comes from, a lot of it comes from overseas. But as far as the main fundraisers that happen in the US, it's tech people and it's Hollywood, right? The ones that like, what's Clooney at the end of the day? $30 million in one night. That comes from Hollywood or tech people. That's the only two people to do that shit. So if he loses them, then he's not gonna have the money to run a normal campaign. And in addition to that, people who, even on the periphery, who would have donated or given to a Biden pack or Biden's campaign will say, you know what, let's win the down ballot races instead. And they're gonna give it to the Senate Electoral Committee. They're gonna give it to the individual races at the Senate and Congress level and shit like that. - Okay, and then Newsom released a statement. Gavin Newsom released a statement this morning saying, "I'm all in for Biden. "I don't think he wants anything to do with this election, "even if they were to magically skip Kamala and go to him. "I don't think he wants anything to do with 115 days left. "It's impossible. "It's impossible odds at this point." So I think you're gonna have to trot him out and then hope for the best. But I just think it's too late. And these donors are dropping left and right here. Hollywood is out all the way around. Rosie O'Donnell said she's out for Christ's sakes. I mean, that's, you know, sorry. That's it. - When Rosie O'Donnell says, "I'm not supporting anyone." - Was she like out of breath, what do you mean? - She says it's time to surpass the torch and I don't believe in Joe Biden. - By torch does she mean like a burrito that she's eating right now? - I think the torch that goes underneath the plate kind of for to-go orders or corporate events. - Yeah, she's really fat. - Yeah. - Nice. - You know, it's those little candles that go underneath the metal tins there to heat up fajitas and whatnot. But she's out, everybody else is out here. To me, what Newsom is saying, you've got to eventually just say, "All right, we got to go in for this fucking candidate "and hope for the best." I don't think you have a choice at this point. The more and more you keep going back and forth with people saying, "I'm not voting for him "and he's got to pass the torch and all this other shit." You're running out of time and you're just making your own candidate look like shit. Trump has been very smart by staying out of it. But, you know, as this continues, shit, man. We got next weekend. Next weekend is the Republic, is the RNC. If his vice president pick is exciting and as long as it's not Bergham or fucking Rubio, people are going to be amped about that. That's going to be a more surge in funding for him. He's going to keep winning. So, yeah, it's a quick start to see. - Do you go hard? Do you Kyle Shanahan at? Do you keep throwing the ball? - Nope. - Or do you go? - 28-3. - But that's what I'm saying. - Run the fucking ball, dude. - Maybe he's more likely to pick a ball now. - I think all he has to do is keep his head down and run the ball. Right now, a JD Vance, Bob, would probably be the safe. Let's just run it up the middle and run it the clock. - No, JD's a firebrand. I think that's the smartest pick for him, but he's a firebrand. So, I'm saying, I think that what's happening with Biden increases the likelihood of a Bergham. Now, however much, I don't know. But, again, does he just run the ball? - Yeah, tough call. - What would be the, in your opinion, what would be running the ball? - Just picking-- - Ben Carson. - And so, what was his-- - Tim Scott's-- - What was his entire-- - Ben Carson is kind of a conspiracy theorist. - Tim Scott, not-- I mean, Tim Scott, a Bergham. So, because here's the thing, like, look at what he did at the debate, right? He played the debate perfectly. He just talked. I mean, he got a little weird at the end or whatever, but like, mostly just talked, right? Or, mostly played it cool, whatever. Didn't try to dunk on Biden, anything like that. That might be the move. And if that's the move, you're more likely to get a boring candidate. Well, you don't necessarily need JD Vance to go out there and light fires under asses, right? You just need to know that the other person doesn't have enough clock left to come back. - And by the way, Bob, to your point behind the scenes, the Trump campaign has said, he's been able to take his time with a VP pick based on what has happened in the last two weeks, not only with Biden, but the media itself turning on Biden and his own party turning on Biden. So, who knows? We could get a super shocker pick here coming up next weekend. - I mean, again, not much would surprise me at this point, because-- - Rubio would. - He's wild as hell, yeah. Rubio wouldn't, because he's fucking incompetent, but if it was the vague that wouldn't shock me, as a matter of fact, I think the vague would create a real dust up. And I'm not necessarily in a bad way. So we created dust up in that federal employees are gonna start campaigning against Trump at that point, which is if they mention the fact that they're a federal employee while they're doing it, that's violation of the Hatch Act, they can't do that. So that would be very controversial, right? - Yeah. - But I don't think, they've tried to come after Vance in the last week. It's like, oh, he said Trump, he said he didn't like Trump one time. Did he say that or did he say he didn't like something Trump did, 'cause that's not the same, obviously, right? But they, I mean, they tried pretty hard this week to tee up Vance for some kind of letdown and it didn't work. So he's good. I just, Bergham's too boring. Tim Scott would be okay, I guess, but he's just a fucking bump on the long. - In 2016, Vance was pretty anti-Trump. He said he was a never-Trump guy on Charlie Rosen's 20. He wasn't just like, oh, I don't agree with that. He was very much like fuck Trump. - Absolutely. 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I'm talking about JD Vance. Well, he was a lawyer than a lawyer. In 2016, he was a politician. Yeah, he's always a politician. Somebody whose mind works that way, who can go from fucking, I'll never do this to, like, cozying up to the guy and defending him. That's a politician. Oh, I agree. I just don't know what year it was. When did he actually get into office? 14, I think. Well, he's 40, so that would have put him at 32. He ran pretty young, but let's see what he's doing. Yeah. He went to what, like, Yale Law, like he was always a politician. Very, very smart guy. Yeah, I think he was a corporate lawyer first. Then he wrote a bestseller. I know it got turned into a movie that I didn't see. He ran in 2018 against Sherrod Brown, but lost. Or he considered running, but he didn't. So I was wrong. So he didn't get until 22. Okay. He didn't get into until recently, but he's been trying to get into politics for the better part of a decade now. Okay. And on the other side of this, there was a report floating around that Jill Biden's personal hatred of Kamala Harris is another reason why she's not allowing Joe to step down whatsoever. I mean, if she was smart, she would let Kamala walk right into that fucking whichever. Can you imagine her? Like, let's say it's September the 6th or whatever. I think that's the day of the next debate. I think Bob looked that up and see what the next date is. But imagine it's September. Biden has dropped out and now Kamala has to stand on stage next to Trump and debate him. And they're going to see not a fucking 78 year old or 80 year old or however the fuck old that bitch is now, 82 year old versus Trump who's 78. They're going to see a woman in her fucking 50s against 78 year old Trump who still can't formulate a fucking sentence, right? To me, like they perp walked, the Democratic Party perp walked Biden last night. They walked him out on that stage and was like, all right, everybody take your shot. They put him in a fucking dunk tank last night with a clown suit on. It's like everybody take a shot, fuck this dude. There's no way that the DNC should have allowed that to have it. - I'm surprised they did. Or was it just on the books for so long that if he backed out, it would have looked bad? - I don't care. - That's right. - It's, I mean, that is one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life. - Yeah, we're going to switch over to something else. It's one of the worst things I've seen in my life. And it's haunted me all day. I want to get into some gay shit. We'll stay in the presidential theme though. - Are you talking about Diddy? - Nope, nope, not talking about Diddy. Don't want to hear that audio Bob, thanks. - No, I mean, so this guy, this guy wrote a fucking, hold on, let me see what his name is. This is, I mean, like massive article. - Oh, it's Buddy? - It says, I knew Diddy for years. What I now remember haunts me. - Yeah. - It's, fuck, who wrote it? I can't find the time, yeah. - It's his buddy. - It's in the New York Times. - It is, yeah. - It was, goddamn. - Yeah. - But it's on the news for free now. So you don't have to pay for that stupid shit. But it doesn't say who the author was. It doesn't say who the author was. - No, he's anonymous, I think. - But I haven't read this article yet, but there's no way it doesn't include a bunch of gay shit. - It's a ton of shit, it's a ton of shit in there. The gay shit I was referring to Bob, and I'm gonna have you look this up right now. Go to the New York Post and type in, just go to Google, type in New York Post, Abraham Lincoln, doc. - I've been telling you this for years. - Right, and I didn't believe it. - I know, I didn't believe it. I didn't wanna hear this fucking bullshit. There is a documentary coming out. - I don't know that it's true. - Of Abraham Lincoln being a homosexual. - There's always been smoke around him banging his fucking, what was the name Captain something earlier? - Well, they reenacted it, Bob, if you can pull it up. - Did they do a porn version? - It's on page six. And the documentary, oh boy, I hope there's a fucking trailer for this goddamn thing, dude. There it is, right? - The trailer's called "Lover of Men." - Is it really, are you fucking joking, dude? Is it really called "Lover of Men"? - Yeah. - God, I read that article super fucking early. All right, so if we can find this, we gotta play it. I hope it's up, dude. Holy fucking shit. We allowed to play this on YouTube, fuck it, I guess. - We're not monetized, so go. - He is considered the sacred figure by both Republicans and Democrats. He led the nation through its greatest crisis. - He's on our currency. We build monuments to him. - He's the greatest president the United States has ever had. - Today, the big question that people are asking is, was Abraham Lincoln gay? - That's not the big question. - I don't think it is. - I don't think he did. - Those closest relationships were other men. - Look at it. - And the same for women. - Men would live with another man when they're single, man often did and shared beds. - Lincoln probably slept in the same bed with men more than he did with women. - One of the things that fascinates scholars is his bedding down. - Is that Joshua's being for four years. - There is love between those two men. - You know, that wasn't real footage of Abraham Lincoln, right? - Oh, no. - Was that Glen Greenwell? - It's really startling. - Lincoln has a type, dashing, darn. - We have this notion that if you have an attraction like that, boom, that's your orientation. Sexuality through the mid 19th century was far more fluid. - But it wasn't one of the political career. - It was the guy in dark ages. - You're the wife. - Dear Speed, I shall be very lonesome without you. You're forever, Lincoln. - Come on. - What you have in the 19th century was very strict marriage culture. Get married and then everything is possible. - Captain David Derrickson became friends with Lincoln while they were living here at the cottage. - There is a soldier here devoted to the president and when Mrs. L is not home, sleeps with him. What's tough? - He was seen wearing the president's light shirt. - If you want a smoking gun, here it is. - But then you see all these shifts to the end of the 19th century. - I'm gonna take that guy seriously. - Freud was devastating to the sexuality. - Defining very rigid categories. - And they're saying if a man loves another man, it's unnatural. - And the sexuality is a mental illness. - It was not only wrong, it was punishable. - If Lincoln were to look down today, he would see the United States at a particular fragile moment. - History is so important because it allows us to understand who we were and who we might become. - Lincoln's legacy is the insistence on equality. - We have been in the House of Power. - If you can accept a queer Lincoln, you can accept queer people overall. - He should inspire us to achieve a true democracy for everyone. (upbeat music) - This is the dumbest shit. (laughing) - I'll say this, there's a pretty decent chance for all we know that Lincoln sucks a dude's dick at some point, who knows? But this narrative they're trying to push that gayness was a central part of Western civilization and was normal and accepted up until the 20th century until, oh, people in an hour mad, you better quit it. That is fucking nuts, that is nuts. - In the 4th century, it basically was outlawed because of fucking Constantine. - Dude, it took two seconds for me to just Google this. Like, this is the type of thing where someone will watch this and not even think to Google. They're like, the documentary told me that it used to be legal to be gay in 1850. Just listen to that sentence. - Yeah. - Do they have to make any sense to you? There were anti-sademy laws on the books for the fucking 18th century, from the very beginning. - So from 1700 to 1776, before we were even a country, there were at least five executions for sodomy. There were executions of about 50 people in the American colonies for sex crimes, including rape and sodomy. - Most men just used to fuck men back in the day. - Every state in the United States had laws that treated sodomy as a crime, but when the Bill of Rights was ratified in 1791. Like, dude, also-- - Let's watch this when it comes out and just absolutely fuck it. - We should watch it on pages. - This is a fucking soft core history where you guys go full repubed. - Oh, I would do a watch along, I thought were you guys, I would do a watch along with this. Happy to sit in on that one. - It's gonna be insane. - The beauty of it is, for the audio listeners who are just listening to the trailer right now, I'll describe a couple scenes in there. They cast a Lincoln, an actor as Abraham Lincoln, and then they cast his gay lover, and there's a scene in here, in which they're holding hands in bed. - And reading a book together. - Reading a book, snuggling. With the guy laying on Lincoln's chest. - You know, just like bros used to do. - But so some of that though, in one of the pieces of evidence they have, if this is in the trailer, you know what I mean? Is I'll be quite lonesome without you. That's just how people talk. And by the way, in India, where they will saw you in half for being a gay guy. - Yeah, like a dude sleep in one room and a bed together. - And it is really culturally common to hold for men to walk down the street holding hands in India. Like it is normal for-- - Same thing in parts of the Middle East and Iraq, that's pretty normal too. - Really? - Yeah. - Yeah. - By the way, this is how you know, and I'm fine, like obviously like, if you're gay, great, whatever, I don't care about that at all. But this is how you know that this is like LGBT propaganda, because if they really wanted to be serious about finding a gay president, they would go to the one where there's way better evidence for that. But they won't because that was the guy directly before Lincoln, who is considered the worst president in the history of the United States, which is James Buchanan. James Buchanan, very good chance he was gay. - Really? - Never married, quote, confirmed bachelor, a lot of other smoke. I'd have to go back and look into the evidence. I can't recall if Tommy had, but very, very good chance James Buchanan was gay. But no gay guy is gonna celebrate that a modern progressive gay person can't celebrate James Buchanan being gay because he was pro-slavery. He basically allowed the civil war to happen, allowed the confederate to arm itself with federal munitions and stuff like that, all kinds of crazy shit. You're not gonna say he's uncelebratable, but you can't have that sort of nuanced view of history where it's like, oh, that's fascinating. This gay guy was president, but he had a lot of views that we fucking hate. - It may turn out that who you like to fuck has nothing to do with your politics. - Maybe or it may turn out that Lincoln was a raging homosexual man. - I wouldn't be surprised if he was. The smoke on Buchanan is that he also may have been asexual, which falls under queer now. - Oh yeah, you're right, I think he's pan, right? - No, pan means you'll fuck anybody. A means, I'm not actually a man of that stuff. - Aaron Rodgers, asexual. - Is he not boning any ladies or guys? - I think he's going through the motions. - Okay. - I think he likes dudes. - I think he likes dudes too. - That's kinda where I lean in. - I think there's some kind of weird power dynamic with dudes and he just likes to fucking just fuck him up. - You don't pull out of Olivia Munn, I'm sorry. And I know that's your dream girl, Bobby, like you don't do that, right? - You don't, no, you don't. - Now, as an actor looking at this, the call to my parents would be so shocking of, hey mom, I got this awesome new role. What is it? I'm gonna be in this documentary about Abraham Lincoln. Oh my God, what are you doing? Well, I'm playing as gay lover and then I'm sucking his dick after he freed the slaves. - You wanna come with me to the premiere or you wanna sit that one out? - I'm sure a parents of a piece of shit human being like that would love it. Yeah, well, yeah, let's rewrite history. So all this fucking debauched nonsense is normal, fuck off. If you wanna control the present, control the past, that's how the saying goes. - I agree. - You rewrite history and you fucking make anything true you want. - I agree, I also think if you're really gonna sell this and you really want the audience to believe in it, I need an 18 minute blowjob scene with the president and then this. - Where he's practicing the fucking Emancipation Proclamation. Four score, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, fuck it. Four score worth of fucking semen in your throat. - This is the only gay Abraham Lincoln that I acknowledge. - Was this community? - No, this is 30 wrong. I don't think we can play this. - We can't play the audio. - We can't play the audio, yeah, yeah, I got it. - Four score and seven beers ago, four score, that's right. - That's it. Lincoln did have a high pitch voice though, the DDL version of it from what I'm told is exactly. - Yeah, nailed it. - For that. Is there, can you pull it up, Bob? Is there any actual recording of his voice? - No. - There's, I think there is one. - Go to YouTube, it might be one. - I think it was from one of the addresses like right after the war ended or something. - No, there's no, there's no. - Not one audio recording of Lincoln? - They say Edward Leon, Scott, Day, Martinville, record, maybe recorded Lincoln's voice on a phonautograph in 1863. - Yeah, it's out there somewhere. - We have no solid evidence that such a recording session ever took place. - You don't wanna hear it. - I do wanna hear it. - No, I saw Daniel Day Lewis do it and I believe that he was Lincoln. So it sounds like that, yeah, I'm alright with it. - It's gotta be out there. Somebody probably has it in the fucking, like the way the Vatican has all that Jesus shit. - Yeah. - Stored away, it's not, none of it's real. All these relics showed up in like the fourth century, they're like, "Oh, we got stuff." Oh yeah, you dug it whole on the ground and found it, eh? (laughing) - Oh man, if we had a Meek Mill Diddy recording of Lincoln and his gay lover, now that I would listen to over and over again, Bob. - Yeah. - You could play that. - By the way. - It's the end of fucking time on the show. - I'm not saying that Lincoln didn't hook up with a dude or something, like that's totally on board but like that's a possibility. But all the evidence they're presenting is like, it's just dog shit. And again, if you're gonna, like there's a better president to even go after for that and it's, but you won't because he's doesn't politically align with modern LGBT shit. So you're not even interested in history, you're interested in jerking yourself off. - Well, have you seen the poster for this, Bob? And I think this is the real one, I'm looking at it right now. Lover of men poster, it's Lincoln, but he's got eyeshadow and then he looks like David Bowie. Yeah, pop that up on screen. So that is real, okay. Yeah, that's the fucking poster for this. I mean, come on down. - What does the face paint have to do with anything? What? - I don't know. - Is he like, is he like, - It's a show that he's gay or endrogynous? Like, what is the, what's the thing there? - God, can you imagine six foot four bony ass banging a dude? I mean, it's bad enough that he fucked women. Is it weird that I can smell it? Like looking at this picture right now, I can smell him having sex. - A/B star dust here. - Yeah, he probably used dapper Dan on that hair too. - God damn it, dude. 'Cause they didn't have manscaped or any of that bullshit back in the day. So that bush was sick, dude. - Yeah, they wouldn't have even thought to trim that bush up, I don't think. - No, right? - When did women start shaving their pubes and armpits and shit? - I wanna say it wasn't until like the 80s. - I feel like women were shaving their legs though, for a while. - Big bushes were huge in the 70s. - The 20s. - There were shaving pussies in the 20s? - Legs. - So up until the 19th, so in World War I, when you came home from the fucking war, your girlfriend or wife just had a fucking bushy leg. Fuck that. - Yeah, that's weird. - No wonder we almost lost that one. - We sure did. - That's why. - We sure did. When do they start shaving pussies? Can we Google that? I know Google's got that new AI feature. - That's the 90s, man. That's what I got really bad. - I said 80s, yeah, I said 80s. - No way, just go watch porno. Just go watch 80s porno. - If it wasn't porn, it was the bathing suit. So that's when you started to get into like thongs and shit like that and you just couldn't have a clown wig hanging out down there. You had to shave up at least the sides of it. Now, whether it was a Mr. T Mohawk underneath that goddamn thing is another story, but you would definitely see the clown wig from some of those bathing suits in the 80s. - Do you think this is partly to take some of the smoke off of Obama for being gay? - This, yeah. I think it softens it so that later when they do the Obama doc, they're like, all right. He really did have that guy suck his dick for crap. - Well, when somebody finally is at the beach when Michelle's down there and she trips over and her fucking hog falls out and like, oh shit, dude. He's been taking that all these years. No wonder he fucking kept smoking. - Finkle is Ironheart, Ironheart is Finkle. But the gay guy, he never sued. Do you remember that guy? We did that story a couple years ago. The former meth head who came out and said he was sucking Obama's dick for years. Well, Obama never sued him. I would have. - Yeah. - I would have dropped a huge lawsuit on that and been like, no, dude, we're not doing this bullshit today. I can't look like I was just trolling the streets, looking for meth heads to suck my dick for $20. - The practice of women removing pubic hair can be traced back to ancient cultures, including Egypt, Rome and India, as early as 3000 BC. - Come on. - Really? - Women use tools like seashells, copper razors and pumice stones for hair removal, pumice stones. - Seashell, imagine trimming your pews with seashells. - In ancient Egypt, they use like sugar base waxes. So sugar base and it would melt and then rip that shit out. - Also, allegedly Lincoln wrote a poem calling someone he didn't like gay. - Yeah, but somebody in one of the memoirs they wrote about Lincoln, but after his death, said that he had a flash of lavender or some phrase like a streak of lavender. That was used to talk about effeminate men or whatever. And later became like a pejorative for gay people or some shit. But it was just like-- - Streak of lavender? - Yeah, I was just like calling somebody like gay for being a pussy, I think. - Okay. - To be honest, because he was a goddamn state champion wrestler and then he was a president during wartime, like fuck off. - He's a top, if anything. - Yeah. - If he was gay, he was a top. - Also, he was, I don't know if you want to give him like full veteran status for this, but he did serve in the Illinois militia fighting against, I think, the Black Hawk Indians or something like that. - Look, as long as he was killing brown people, that's good for me. - Yeah. - That's all I really care about. - That's all I really care about. - And life, I mean, to be honest. That's how I judge whether somebody's involved in human being or not. - At one time, he, after winning some wrestling match, like, and this was just like a wrestling match in a field with a bunch of other people watching. So, like, the most, like, hobo-ass, like, backyard brawls. - Excuse me, this is still going on all over West Virginia. - Yeah, I know. - He beat the shit out of this guy, then turned to the audience, and quote said, was a direct link, quote, "I'm the big buck of this lick. "If any of you want to try it, come on and wet your horns." Very gay, very strong. - Yeah, I mean, that's the gayest sentence I've ever heard in my entire life. - Yeah, but to be honest, shit talking from more than 10 or 15 years ago was pretty gay. - Well, what's the, read that line one more time because he, now hearing that line, and then inside my mind, hearing the high-pitched voice that Daniel Day Lewis did, it would sound even gay-er. - He was, I believe, shirtless while yelling this as well. - Shut the fuck up. - Yeah, 'cause it's the middle of a fucking backyard brawls. - Hey, sweaty. - Yeah, I'm the big buck of this lick. If any of you want to try it, come on and wet your horns. - Wow, dude. - Why would you wet your horns in the first place? - Is that an old bull fighting term? - It's W-H-E-T. So maybe like sharpen your horns. - Oh, wets, okay, wets. Boy, that does sound real gay. - Yeah, wet as in a wet stone. - Yeah, okay, all right. - That makes, you should have said that in the first place, you piece of shit. - Yeah, Bob, you really made it seem like he was sucking the horns, you know, just, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Just, oh, you better wet your horns, oh, oh, oh. Like just kind of deep-throating the horn and then trying to go in an asshole there. - Or he just fucking grabbed a stag by the antlers and just fucked it right in front of everybody. - Yeah. - Like you want to be next? - Yeah, you want to be next? - He's got like a deli ticket counter thing. - Yup. - A little, take a number, take a number. - He grabs a deer, rips off an antler, breaks it in half, stuffs it in his assholes, just keeps going. - Yeah, yeah, I mean. - You want next? You want to be fucking next? - If the, if the deers are in velvet still, that might not even feel that bad to be honest. - And if they had a streak of lavender in their hair, even better. - Bobby, are you sure we don't have audio of that? I feel like I can find it. Hang on, give me a sec. - Nope, no. - It's like audio? - No, no, no, no, no, photograph. - No, no. - Did they say what it was from? - I heard you see it, I heard you see it. I see it out of the corner of my eye. You can hit the button, but the headphones are coming on. - Yeah, it's fine. We'll get you another time. - I can see it down there. But again, if we had audio of Lincoln fucking this dude, cool man, I could listen to that all day long and laugh my ass off. This is just, the ditty one again, it's just too graphic for me. - You mean this one? - Yeah, that one. You can't turn this off, bitch. - I can't. - The fact that somebody did that, yeah? (crowd chattering) Yesterday, when we got off work, he closed it and it didn't shut all the way and it just kept going and I was like, Jesus Christ. - Yeah, I should have left it. - We're gonna have to burn this thing to the fucking ground. But yeah, Lincoln's audio, fine with P-Ditty's audio, too graphic for me. I don't think Lincoln would be an aggressive butt fucker. I just don't. I think he would kind of make love to him and really slide it and there's a listener back there who's just absolutely appalled. - You know the show, you showed up here. - I mean, yeah, he's an eloquent man. He's tough, but he's eloquent. - Yes. - I think he's a gentle lover. - That's what I think, too. I don't think he was really railing out somebody's ass. - He married Mary Todd and she is a legit lunatic. - She was pranking it off. - I mean, like she's the kind of woman that Jared dates. - Yes. - A fucking lunatic, right? - Yeah, yeah. - But he'll come tell you stories like, "Oh, she's really fun." - Oh, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Can't, I can't. - Roller coasters are fun, too, but you don't live all one. - No, you sure don't. You sure don't. Pull up a real pick of Mary Todd, 'cause all I can picture is Sally Field, my mind from that movie. - That's what she looked like. - Did she or was she uglier? I want to say, 'cause they really kind of prettied him up a little bit. - I'm going to get, well, that's old Mary Todd. Let's get a young when she was breaking it off, Mary Todd. - Yeah. - When did they get married? How old was Mary Todd when they got married? - 12, I think. - Probably shut the fuck up. - Nah, she is. 'Cause that looks like a real young Mary Todd right there. That's questionable. - Dude, it's the 1800s. Like, everyone looked 12 and then 50. - Yeah, that's true. - That's true. - Yeah, she is fucked. - She married Abraham Lincoln in 1842, so she was in her 20s. - Okay, thank God. She was 24. Find a pick of them. Is there a pick of them together, actually? Or like a picture of her later in life? - Yeah, later. - Yeah, let's see that one. - I mean, he's not exactly the most handsome guy. - He's not at all, that's what I'm saying. - But he was also, I mean, I guess when she married him, he was kind of a fucking loser. - True. - Like, he lost every election, he was in, he got fired a bunch. - Ooh, is that her later on in life? - Yeah. - Maybe he did switch to dudes, you know? - Well, this, everything they're alleging of him, except for the last guy, the Civil War guy, which at that point, yeah, maybe, you know what I mean? But like the earlier people would've been when they were young, like when he was a traveling lawyer in Illinois, would've been the 1840s, essentially. - Okay, zoom in on this face, I really need to see this big fat face in front of me. All right. - But this is a utility face. There was no reason for a woman back then to stay good looking after she was, had kids or whatever. - Come on. - That was it. You're a mom at that point, then you become a grandma. - You still want to spice it up in the bedroom and look the best you can, you know? - I know, no, I don't think so. - So you're not, so Lincoln's not out all over town? - Can you imagine the sloppy fucking wet spider web, where her vagina was? I mean, just gross, dude. - I bet it's intense. - Yeah, nobody wants to get involved in that. - I sure don't. - Looks like something that washed up on the fucking beach for Christ's sake. Smells like a two. - Yeah, I bet it does. I can smell it from here. - Yeah. - There's these fish that used to die in Florida once a year and they would wash up on the beach, the stench you could smell it from miles. I bet you that's what it was. 'Cause I'm imagining you just didn't wash it every day, right? It's not like today where you take a shower every single day. Back then, you probably took one, what? Once, twice a week? - Yeah, probably something like that. I guess if you were richer, maybe more often, but, you know, maybe this is why the Israelis had a bunch of weird, are the Jews back of the day, had a bunch of weird rules. - Okay. - Like if you were on your period, you had to sleep in another, like there's a little smaller city outside of the city. - For women that were home. - Is that true? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's so true. She has her blood and get her out of here. But I wonder that maybe that's why they wore all those layers of clothing. Maybe it wasn't about the temperature so much that it was about containing that smell. - Ah, that would make more sense. Yeah, 'cause that stench would be way underneath it. - I mean, so here's, this is graphic, but-- - Sure. - When you first go out to deploy in a new area, we were in a combat outpost and you don't have like showers or anything, right? So I went like 40, 50 days without showering. Now you would use wet wipes and stuff as often as you could, but you can't just do that all the time because we're the fucking gonna get that amount of wet wipes, you know what I mean? - Yeah. - We'll like water bottle our hair off and wash it and shit, but it's pretty gross. And it gets to a point where there's so much sweat on your clothes, on your pants and shirts that they're like stained white from the salt, right? And then when you sit down, you can immediately smell your balls, like immediately. - Right. - And you haven't been hot until your ball sweat has run down your leg into your socks. I'll say that in a real way. That was just the standard back then. Especially if you lived in anywhere that was warm, right? Like fuck that, right? See, he was in DC, right? This wasn't Philly. - Yeah, humid as fuck. - So humid ass fucking DC swamp in the summertime? Fuck man. I mean, that's rough. I mean, even Southern Illinois, right? He's from Springfield. That gets pretty, 'cause I mean, St. Louis, it's pretty fucking humid up there too. It's swampy. The Mississippi river is just mud. - Yeah. So imagine what that does to a fucking vagina. - Oh, it's like hockey pads. I'm sure it would smell like hockey pads or football pads out in a while. - That's an old cast. - Yeah. - Everyone's just like your cast when you get it off. - 'Cause in high school football, we had a few kids who just never washed their shit. And finally the coach came in and he pointed out these two guys and was just like, God damn it, you fucking stink. Like I can't physically smell the stink of you. What is wrong with you? Why don't you wash your pads? And he goes, it was some lineman, some D lineman. They're like, coach, when we're blocking and we get into the games, we want this stink on us. So it physically bothers the other person. I was like, ah shit, it makes sense. - A lot of fighters that go close crops here will shave it two days before the fight and let it grow out a little bit, especially Jiu-Jitsu guys. So they can rub the burrs into your fucking fist. - Yeah, the stubble. - Yeah. - It's the same way with stink. I wouldn't, if I was a UFC fighter, I would go 1800s and wouldn't shower for this for 50, 60 days. - Just rub deer piss all over you. - Yeah, but for you, because you smelled that bad, did the rest of your team smell bad? - Everybody smelled bad. Once we got showers and stuff, it was like, hey dude, it's time to go fucking clean yourself up. We wouldn't tolerate this. 'Cause there are stinky dudes that just don't care. Maybe they have different olfactory senses. But when it gets to the point that you smell too bad for yourself, that's fucked. But it happened multiple times. It's like, god damn it, I gotta get out of here. - Well, it happens in real life too, when you take a shit. Sometimes you take a shit and it smells so awful that, I call it prison shit. You gotta flush it immediately where you're like, "Jesus Christ, that's gonna get in my clothes." And I gotta walk around and meet people the rest of the day. This is horrific. And I have to imagine it was the same way with you guys. When you were leading them, did you point the guys out and say, "Look, you got a fucking shower, bro." - Yeah. - You did? - You were saying you gotta go? - It was either that or we would fucking drag them down there. - Oh, okay. - Right. - Yeah. Yeah, they did that in Wet Hunt American Summer. Fat kid didn't shower the whole camp in the summer and they finally dragged him into a shower. - It happens in basic training a lot. 'Cause people come from all different backgrounds and shit. And certain dudes just don't have a whole lot of discipline and maybe hygiene didn't matter to their family. - Okay. - Or something, I don't fucking know. But they wouldn't shower regularly and we would have to make them. - Yeah. Well, the point of all this is if you're watching this trailer, Lover of Men, the new Abraham Lincoln dock that is coming out, picture that as these two gentlemen Lincoln and his gay lover are laying together and what that would actually smell like in that room. - Yeah, I mean, butt sex even in 2024. - Stinks. - You gotta make, you have to make it not stink, right? You have to do the work to make it not stink. - It's tough though. - Yeah. - 'Cause you got the lube and then you gotta get in there. You're still gonna have some stink on you. - Well, I mean, it's the woman's job or whoever the receiver is to make sure that her butt hole is in the right condition for butt sex, right? - But that's a hard ask. - No, it's not. - It is. - It's a demand actually, it's a requirement. - But then you would have to almost have a regimented diet leading up the week before. - That's what I was talking about with Gary. There's no way he's gay. - Oh, Gary? - Yeah, not one prayer he's gay. - No. - Because he doesn't have the discipline to not have, he's had diarrhea for six years without ever having a solid shit. - I think, I don't care about the stink of butt sex. And if someone walks into a room that stinks of butt sex that I just had, you know what I tell him? - What's that? - I'm the big buck of this lick and if any of you wanna try it, come on and wet your horns. - What about when you get home from work and you can smell it already? - Well, then the bull says that to me. I'm actually paraphrasing what he says. - Sure, sure, yeah. - There's a giant black dude dressed up like Abraham Lincoln and Rob's house all the time. - Have a great dude, is that next? I mean, is that where we're going with all this shit? Like, if we're gonna do gay docs on presidents and shit, are we just gonna come out and say some of these guys are black? - Why not? - Yeah. - I mean, Babe Ruth was black? That's what they're saying though. - Are they really, or is that just the joke in the office? - Pull it up. - Is that just the joke in the office? 'Cause we've been saying this behind the scenes. Is he really black? - He doesn't know who's that is. - He has some features that look like it. - He doesn't know who his dad is. And I don't mean to say that that makes him black. It's like, his dad could be black. - It's 50% of it. - Here's my favorite headline, which take this as you will. - Ty Cobb's shirt. - Ty Cobb's shirt thought so. - Shut the fuck up. - Well, Ty Cobb was somewhat racist, I think. - The most racist I heard, which is why they include all those Negro League stats in there, they didn't want him to have the record anymore. - Yeah. - Which is hilarious, but is that real? That Babe Ruth could potentially been a black man? - Could've been. - He had the nose for it. - There were always rumors that he had significant African ancestry, allegedly, it's possible. - Pull up some of those photos. - Yeah, pull up a pic for the audience real quick. - Do the one with him, the top hat. - The top hat? - Yeah. - Who did that? All right, who did that? Come on, man. Come on, dude. Is that on screen right now? Put that on screen. - That's really funny. - Could you imagine, dude? And the press just hit it for years, they just made a white for years and years and years and they were like, "Nope." Yeah, pop up this one and see this one. - Kinda old in this one. - Well, it's a black man, look at that. - Zoom in. The nose would say yes. Like a hint of it, maybe. Like a, just like a little hint, you know? Just like a, look at the nose, look at the nose. Have you guys done this before? Have you studied this? - Oh, I have a whole episode where we talk about Willie Mays but I brought Babe Ruth being blacked up for the first 10 minutes. - Okay. - I mean, you tell me, if you've seen Dude. - Yeah, so this actor, I forget his name. - Yeah, now I know who you're talking about. - The black man. - Yeah, it's close, but wow. - Also, why do you think the Red Sox owner who famously didn't sign Jackie Robinson wanted to get rid of Babe Ruth for nothing? - Oh, the Red Sox were the last team to integrate. - Maybe, maybe, dude. I'm not gonna rule it out. I'm waiting for the documentary though 'cause maybe he's not only black, but also gay and then they'll have a doc in 15 years. - I mean, if you, if you told me that Babe Ruth just ran through anything he felt like running through, I'd buy that. I wouldn't even blink at that. - Yeah, I wouldn't surprise him. - He was a bit of a hedonist. - Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me whatsoever. I'm kidding. - Yeah, he used to fuck. I think he was in a chick, so I look, I think Babe Ruth was white and he was in a girl's. That's just me. But I'm sure history will change it soon enough. All right, kids, now's the point of the show we get to the drinking bro of the week. Are you allowed to come up, by the way? - Yeah, come on up, dude. But if you're out there and you aren't able to come into the studio, submit to drinkingbrovetheweek on drinkingbrows.com. Bob, pull up the page for us 'cause we got some merch in there. Bunch of ladies on the last episode were excited. They were like, "Holy shit, "you finally have clothes for women." Yeah, we do. Tank tops, look at that Creed 24. Hard AF tank tops on drinkingbrows.com. - They come in different collars too, so it's just a display color, but you can get in all these things. - Sure. But we got them all up there, so we got clothes for women, finally. You're welcome to the 4% of our audience that is women. Oh, shit, the convicted fellow on 24's in a women's tank top as well. Goddamn, that'll rock. All right, get a drinkabrows.com. While you're there, even if you don't want merch, you just want to submit to drinkingbrovetheweek, click on the submission form and it'll get emailed to us live on air. However, we would love if you just came into the studio like people often do. Cheers, man, thanks for coming in. - How's it going, Ralph? - Hey, what's up, dude? Tell everybody your name. Thomas Kargill. - Welcome, dude. - Welcome here. Look at you. Look at you, son of a bitch. Have you had any hard F's today? - I have not. Not yet. - Are you waiting for after the show? - Yeah. - Okay, smart, smart. We've had, I'd say, eight different listeners over the last couple of weeks coming. Get so blackout drunk that they don't even remember where they are, so I understand that. How long have you been listening to the show? - Probably about 2016. - Oh, shit. - Yeah, I'm in it. - Damn, dude. Eight years now. - Yeah. - Yeah, we started in 2015. - Yes, sir. - A little bit late, but. - That's all right, dude. Welcome, welcome, man. We appreciate it. Who do you want to give drinking brother the week to? - My wife, Robin. - Oh, right on. - Yeah. - What does Robin do? - She works for a medical billing company. - Okay. Shit, she's busy, then. - Yes, sir. - Goddamn. After being in the hospital that time, do you know the bills that came to my house? - A lot. - It felt like 80 every single day. Now, none of them were real, but yeah. They still have to send it to you before it goes to insurance. And I think they do it because they want you to pay of like, oh, yeah. - Oh, absolutely. - Is that what it is? - I think so. - Okay. 'Cause we just had our insurance guy in here earlier this morning for hard AF and he had to take out life insurance policies and all that of the shit, but he was in charge of the other one. So my wife was hitting him up when I was in there. She was getting 800 bills and it was like, "He's fucking real?" And he's like, "No, no, I'm not real." - Yeah. - Yeah. Didn't find out till the very end, but that's cool. What do you do? - I'm actually looking for a job right now. - No shit. Where do you live? - Round Rock. - Oh shit, you're in the Round Rock area. I was just there. I was unaware how big that minor league stadium was. - Yeah, it's pretty good size. - Ah, damn, man. So yeah, we're getting into stadiums and obviously colleges and stuff, actually shit. So we're in University of Michigan this fall and it was on the phone with a distributor this morning and the hatch just came in here, boom. So we'll be selling these on the site as well for all the college teams. Here's the Michigan hat right here. And University of Oregon was over here somewhere. This is just a fun flirty one, they said, and just a fucking real American one. - Yeah, that is. - So stoked about that. Have you been in an express game out there? - Yeah, several. - Are they cool? - Yeah, you'd like it. - Stadium's dope, dude. Yeah, it was just there. It was fucking rad. And it was out by Cowahari too, that place fucks. - Yeah. - Jesus Christ, if you got kids and all that stuff, it's great. They do a Wine and Boos festival in the fall. - Yeah, there was Wine and Boos in every square inch of that goddamn place. I took a meeting there because I got white claw and some other shit in there and I was like, I was unaware how much they really cater to adults because it's a child's thing, you know? And I was like, all right, cool. I got another meeting with another one this weekend, about 45 minutes away that does the same. And they were like, man, the alcohol sales for parents are through the fucking roof. And I was like, I get it. - The last time we were there, our wife couldn't keep me awake and the Uber on the way back home. And it was only like six o'clock in the afternoon. - Shut the fuck up, that's perfect. 'Cause they're doing floaters and shit and the Peony Coladas and the margaritas and everything, it's great. Well, dude, we appreciate you being here, man. Thanks for stopping in. If you're in Round Rock, stop in whenever you want. - Oh, for sure. - I know it's a little bit of a hike. - Not too bad. - It took me like an hour, I think, last time. - Yeah, well, it depended on traffic and stuff. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we appreciate you being here. - Stop into the studio, if you're in Austin, Texas. Give out your very own drinking bro of the week. If you can't, though, go to drinkingbros.com. Click the submission and it'll be emailed to us live on air. If you wanna buy some merch, we're all stocked up. Got women's clothes, finally. Yes, we listened and a great new merch company. They've been fantastic for us. Shout out to Brandon out there for doing that. We appreciate tuning in, go to iTunes. 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