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Anyways, if you are new here, welcome, welcome, welcome, get comfortable in comments. We'd love to hear where you're from. We want to hear what you think. We do have an email now. Ask Sarah from Texas at gmail.com. We have a phone number to call in live seven, one, three, four, eight, nine, eight, four, eight, eight. If you will, if I'm on live with someone on the phone, if you'll wait to call in right after that, that way it doesn't like ring in. I ain't a professional set up here. So anyways, I'm just a girl who loves to chat all the things that I love. And I was looking for other people to chat with that and I found that in you. But more importantly to that, we have really found a community of people like I just got a message about someone that I've met a few times hung out with had so much fun and she was just tell me a very bad medical issue going on with her husband and asked me to pray for her. So anyways, we are just much more than just people that like to, you know, chat all the latest gossip from our shows and our radio shows and stuff. But I wanted to get this out there because I do love taking advice stuff to. And I knew that this topic was going to weigh a lot on everyone's minds tomorrow. So I was like, let's just go live today, get it all out of our system. And then if something new happens, you know, because over the last few days we have seen some posts happen, some comments happen, some, you know, DMs going on. So, thank you so much for sending me all the stuff because, you know, okay. Like I said, get comfortable in comments. Y'all can ask anything. I really think we're going to start with about a year and a half ago. Okay, really quickly. This is all just like coming on top of each other. So for all of us. Oh, geez, that have watched all the flipping out. Know all the history of Jeff Lewis and his friends slash professional people because, you know, it is a job to come on Jeff Lewis live. He is, he pays them $500. Right. It's very much a job. But lines can get crossed in the professional and personal things. So, about a year and a half ago, summer, 2023, a lot of drama happened on sort of behind the scenes. Like liking comments and in the Patreon meet, not Patreon meet up group, the Patreon chat group. Some posts that weren't allowed or that were quickly allowed and then deleted in Heather McDonald's, Juicy Scoop Obsessed Facebook group. Between Justin Martindale and Heather McDonald, who Justin used to be on her show quite often. He was also opening up for some of her live events. So around 4th of July, 2023, you know, some stuff is going on. Y'all were telling me some stuff and kind of getting a vibe that things weren't good. And then all of a sudden, he wasn't at he didn't open up at her 4th of July event. Nothing was said. Everything was like everything's fine. Then stuff started coming out. Then Justin did a, you know, a podcast about it. I was chatting about it. Heather McDonald started chatting about it. Somehow, Krista Lomas got into it with the earrings and the borrowing and are they real? Are they not? Then Jeff Lewis got involved in it. Earring gate of it all 2023, Brandy and Julie then got involved in it and there was some drama with that and they are on the outs with Jeff, then Jeff and Stu broke up. They are on the outs. This year, well, over a year, we've seen Megan and Jeff have some on again off again. Now they are definitely off again. So, you know, just a lot going on. Gage stays in the mix about a year, year and a half ago with doing these Ask Me Anything's where he was getting very tempted to kind of spill a lot of tea about Jeff Lewis. So, Jeff eventually had to come out and come clean that yes, while he was with Stu, he was flirting, trying to have some more than dad talk actions with Gage, and he eventually came out and admitted that. That's a lot piled on to all of this that is now what's going on the last week and a half or so called chump virus. So, with that, we now know, Jade Catapretta, who's a comedian that's been on Jeff Lewis, I don't know what do you want to say. I don't know, not a ton, but a lot. And Justin Martindale. Now we know from her side that they've had this years long thing. Maybe she doesn't have a thing with him, but he definitely doesn't like her doesn't respect her. This is all from Jade side. We have not heard from Justin side that I've been told. So, with that, Chumpmas 2024, Justin was one of the, the only comedian that was asked to do a little bit of a 15 minute 20 minute stand up thing people then later told me he was very standoffish. He wasn't really interacting with Jeff's inner circle chumps or the fan chumps at the VVIP. I'm told he left very soon after his live event now we know that there was some. There was some gossip, badmouthing in the green room room that Jeff said he heard about, but he couldn't confirm. And he was hearing things he says about Justin and other people saying that Justin was maybe not being a team player, badmouthing, you know, there had been some other forget the term Jeff used but basically like, this is not a one off. The consistent things that we have taught to Justin about is I can't remember the term I used a few days ago in a podcast but whatever that was. And he was being super vague about this issue saying this Chump was rude to rude, disrespectful, aggressive. Then it finally came out that it was a text which we now learned it was actually a DM on Instagram right Jeff doesn't know his vocabulary but that's okay. But it was a male Chump so then we narrowed it down. I was only thinking Justin Martindale not from personal experience because I've met him and I think he's very nice I think he's nice on the whatever I think his boyfriend sorry now fiance Evan Cobb is super nice. But all of this was going on and then he finally Jeff finally lets us know that it was a female Chump that he DM'd and then Jade comes on. Jade Katapretta in reads this message so let me play it for you I did play it last week if you've listened but there's so many of you all DM and me that have not heard it. I definitely did not record the Evan phone call it was at the very end of our one the other day didn't love that phone call but God bless him for, you know, protecting his fiance. It was a DM that Justin Martindale sent to Jade Katapretta the morning after Chumpmas and I will go over what she says happened at Chumpmas but this is the reason he sent this DM. Okay, if you did not stand up in the middle of my set and twirl around and try to still focus during one of my jokes that would be great. That was completely unprofessional and you being a comic should definitely understand that there was a reason why I was asked to be on stage and you weren't. When I got that I was like oh that's nasty and then I said Jeff is like that's mean that's nasty listen to it one more time you wrote hey if you could not stand up in the middle of my set and twirl around and try to still focus during one of my jokes that would be great. You being a comic should definitely understand that there was a reason why I was asked to be on stage and you weren't. Okay. Don't love the last sentence obviously I do think it's caddy. I don't know if it's an HR issue as Jeff was like hyping this up and this is something I'm going to read you an email that somebody sent me the other day about this too. Basically what happened was, and I've been at Chantmus last year, when people like Kelly Dodd or Poland Patriker kind of poked fun about they will stand up and kind of give a little halfway to the audience, the audience cheers I mean this is. Chantmus this is like all the fans getting together they're seeing all the chunks live and in person, they're meeting people that they've met online that they talked to that they are that they know. It's not formal I mean it's it's a comedian set for one thing, but none of us knew this ongoing according to Jade years long feud of sorts between Justin Martindale and Jade Caterpretto. So that kind of changes everything for me. Because I'm wondering what her reason was so apparently Justin makes a comment about only fans will we all know that Jade Caterpretto is on only fans and shows her butt. So she kind of stands up just like Shannon Bador had done just like Kelly Dodd had done and does a little wave to everyone. Some people at the live event at Chantmus 2024 saw her do this. Some people didn't even notice it okay so it wasn't like a 30 second deal or anything. But he sent Justin sent that text the next morning, basically saying don't do that. Just a Jade was really kind of alluding to the fact that all the chumps that were sitting next to her and I think she specifically mentioned Paul and Patrick I think that they were all kind of sitting there like during Justin's set. Probably most of the fans there couldn't really see that because they're up close and they can't really see their faces right. But Jade was like look I was sitting there clapping laughing being professional. All the things so I don't know if she just kind of went along with it to to be fun and lighthearted. Or if she was kind of like yeah I know you hate me I'm going to stand up because she even said she knew that Justin was going to be upset that she was even invited to Chantmus. Not invited to be a comedian on stage, not invited to be on the panel but just even invited as a chump. Okay so you know we think these people have thick skins and you know apparently they don't. Yeah, so I'm going to read this text you so the reason I say a little bit of that background is because there's so much background as to now why the picture of Julie and Brandy and Heather and Megan and chef Stu were posted all together and saying that you know they're chatting about these things and then you know gauge comments underneath it with a picture of beef and emoji basically saying oh there's beef. Heather McDonald comments underneath gauge tags him and says come next time. Chris Fran Jola gets into the mix with posting something on Juicy Scoop Obsessed he since deleted it and put out a big more explanation. Chris Fran Fran Joel is involved because he has been asked to come on Jeff Lewis live the whole part of the mess with this was that Jeff didn't want regular chumps going on Juicy Scoop so often or the same time frame that they kind of got you know mixed up within the end of it it's like Justin Martindale comes over and becomes a regular on Jeff Lewis live fortune beamster becomes over and becomes a regular on Jeff Lewis live Sarah. Kelowna comes over and becomes a regular on Jeff Lewis live so it's kind of like, well who's poaching who's you know regulars. So Chris Fran Jola and we know from we know this is a common thing that Heather McDonald approves all posts on Juicy Scoop Obsessed so she had to know that this was out. So Chris Fran Jola posted and this is why I'll continue to decline my invitation and Heather McDonald who's the admin commented smart man of the people. Okay so then he posted a big long thing in his cover to cover Facebook group saying, I don't want to let me Jeff Lewis Martindale shit on this page what I posted on the Juicy Scoop page was a mistake. I'm sorry it led to assholes talking shit about my friends. Jade cat a fuck fuck. This is his words in Justin Martindale or thirsty idiots just looking for the most attention and they'll do whatever it takes to get it. Myself and my close friends are actual comedians who put in the work day after day and year after year and deserve to do whatever fucking podcast we want to do to sell tickets and build a following so we can make money and pay our bills. Sarah Colona is one of the best people I know in thousands of ways and if some of you dumb mother truckers but with an F can't see that I feel sorry for you. Myself and Sarah Colona have been working too fucking long at this to have any llamas earring Martindale Jade or any other thirsty drama fuck face try to fuck it up. Happy New Year and loving kisses to all Chris Frangela. I mean, you can't make this shit up. Wow. Okay, so this is an email I got from a chump hip. She titled it the email had enough he or she I don't know who it was. I think I have to put Jeff Lewis on pause I don't like how he treated Dr Donna that's a whole other thing the Dr Donna hotel of it all. And can't get past it whether she should or shouldn't have had said anything about the hotel, the way he berated her was too much. Now how he built up this virus thing I feel like it's very high school ish any other listeners filling this way. And then to add into the mix we've got Jeff Lewis, which hardly ever post to his grid except for the coffee pictures. Him and Lisa Vanderpump together in Las Vegas this weekend and he puts much to discuss. I'm assuming this is all about his quick meeting trip to Las Vegas this weekend to figure out the chump con of it all that's supposed to happen in April. This is the picture if you haven't seen it of chef stew Jeff's ex boyfriend Megan Weaver. Heather McDonald brandy Howard and Julie Goldman that they have posted gauge posting the beef emoji like you know, can't sit can't see that one. I mean just in petison today correct in terra zombie. Somebody says they don't know about the Donna Maria Jeff is definitely a petty high schooler. I mean I always say he's stuck in a 12 year old body as far as like you know gossip and that kind of thing. I don't see any calls yet but if you want to call him live you do not have to say your real name. You don't have to say where you're from. Just say what you want to say or ask a question seven one three four eight nine eight four eight eight. Wait what Margaret says gauge mentioned fan social. What did he say because fans social co is the new app. Instead of reaching out to directly to Jeff's lawyer to make these $5,000 drinks or $10,000 dinner plans with him. He and Michael Beck have created this app will they'll do it and take a 20% cut off of other people. So I'm hearing this a lot and that's why I wanted to read that email. Rebecca says I'm out with Jeff Lewis live times are too tough lately for this toxic entertainment. And I'm kind of hearing that I mean I've been hearing that you know too many of the same co host things like that. Oh good. I'm sorry my phone is off do not disturb so y'all can call but now I'm going to get all the regular. Anyway so sorry about that. Yeah khaki says I guess it's just wild to me because Jeff really defended Megan. But he's also really slammed her I mean you know even on Hollywood house left there was that. Super uncomfortable dinner where they whatever okay. Let me put you on speaker. Hello. Thank you. What's what do you think. He did not hold back did he and I think usually he does but I think he always has a lot to say he just tried to stay out of it. This time he was like I cannot stay out of this. I know and he's always I mean he is the go to the whole person. I mean it's just very interesting that he doesn't want anything to do with this. And that the whole and that he brought up the whole earring brought up the martin tail. The fact that I think everyone lost the idea that the whole earring thing was not worth it. It was the martin tail situation and then it went into the whole earring situation. Exactly in the martin tail things a lot more to get into and a lot. You know it just gets into. It just gets into a lot more but the gist of it right was that Justin martin Dale was saying that Heather. Heather wouldn't agree to make a video to support an LG TVQ. I think that Justin was involved in and then she was liking some patreon comments that were very hurtful about Justin. She says I just go on and like comments. It doesn't mean I like them which I understand as a creator and I've defended her on that part. Because you do try to like them to have a big knowledge but you may not read them quickly enough. And it doesn't make you feel like you're being like oh that they saw it and it makes you feel good. They even like saw it and they acknowledge it. Sure. It doesn't mean that I don't think of it like oh yeah they agree with me 100%. They're acknowledging this and they are in full agreement. No. Yeah. It's just the fact that you wanted to give yours a little something so that we're excited. Yeah. And at that time Heather McDonald had not blocked me and then unblocked me and blocked me and unblocked me and blocked me and blocked me again. I'm currently blocked. But I was messaging her. This is a round if I recall. This is a round Labor Day because I remember walking outside. We were on vacation with a bunch of friends and I remember walking outside to the patio and sent her a voice note and I was like look. I said Heather just on DM. I said your extreme juicy scoop fans are messaging me who my account name was Jeff Lewis obsessed at the time. I said they are messaging me to complain about you and how you've changed and they just want you to acknowledge that you liked a mean comment and you didn't mean it. Go back and unlike it. That's all you have to do and say hey I read this comment about my friend and professional acquaintance Justin Martindale and I did not mean it because it was about suicide and his ex I mean it was. It was a very hurtful comment. Yes. Yes. Very dark. So that was the beginnings of it all and as a human. I was literally messaging Heather going hey you got to come out and say something. Your fans are complaining to me. Jeff Lewis obsessed me an account like hello. And she just kept saying I don't believe it. I didn't do anything wrong. I mean she was very you know whatever. But other takes a very strong opinion about a lot of things and then we'll come back and you know she's very quick to block you but she's also very quick to like come to you and be like why didn't you defend me. Why didn't you go on and make a new. A new podcast and just this. There's a lot of expectations with a lot of reciprocation. Yeah. Yeah exactly. To which I told her you know maybe if you had a Heather McDonald obsessed fan account they would do that for you but don't look to me for that. But don't look to me for that bullshit. No. No. She doesn't know that obviously. I'm just so excited for this. This is amazing. I'm so thankful that you did it. And you look amazing. I know it's real fun. I'm so happy. Thank you. Chantelle adore you. I love you. I hope you have a wonderful day. Thanks. Thanks for calling in. Okay. Let me see somebody is sending me some stuff. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm just going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. 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I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. It's a long conversation. I'm going to say it's a long conversation. Jeff seems to be really invested in this person. This chumpets opinion about which gets to have. He says it's a fine line of OG chumps, which Doug buten and Megan Weaver definitely qualify, but Megan is out. I should kind of get you and Megan talking again. Jeff basically, I can't remember exactly what he said, but that is a done deal. MJ was like, oh, okay. I didn't realize that was an absolute closed deal. We are not reopening that. Jeff was very clear about that. Oh my gosh, Deborah. That's so funny. She says, I told my family not to bother me today between four and five. Exactly. We got stuff to do. So anyways, Matthew says if you haven't been blocked by Heather McDonald, have you really lived exactly? I mean, and the way I found out I was unblocked by her, I'm reblocked again, but it's because she had sent me an apology just hours after storming up to me at BravoCon 2023, asking me why I had made a video about her earring gate of it all yet because I was at that live show. I mean, yes. So what is this? Who? I don't want to give out all the information, but let's be clear on Patreons. Everyone does go straight to the Facebook group, straight to Reddit and give their recap. Some people take audio clips. Some people used to send it to me. I am not caught up with all my DM jets. So I don't know if anyone has sent me any audio clips yet, but I'm hearing a lot of differences. I'm hearing it. I'm going to get you in one second. I'm hearing a lot of differences in what she really said and what she didn't. So. Hello. Hi. Yes. Hi. Hi. Yeah. I just, I don't have a question. Yes. Like just this never really comments on anything, does he? Not that I'm aware of, but I don't cover Chris Frangela, like I'm not in his Facebook group. I don't follow him. I've never seen him live. So I get the gist of his personality, but I don't cover him. So I don't really know. Oh, of course. I guess I'm shocked that he like come to anything about. Yeah. I feel like that's like the first time. I know he goes on Heather show, but. And really. I'm so confused where Jade June from. Do you know where she came from? Who brought her from the show? Like who she is? No said they don't ever care to. And not, not for any tears here. I just generally, I don't go into that. Like who bought her? Like doing. Oh, I just like why do I feel like it's. That no, we towers. Am I wrong in that? Do I feel like we know now that he was one of the first that she sent the text to and the DM. Sorry. And then she also sent the DM to Michael Beck. So she's really good friends with him, but I feel like it was that no, we towers, but I'm not real sure to be honest. But when Jeff likes someone, he likes them. He doesn't care if the audience likes them or not. He's very clear about that. With Patti Stanger, Kelly God. Yeah. Happy to be here for sure. But what do you think? Do you think that like Justin's. The M was like. Radiously rude. Even the last time it was a little party, but you think it was so jaw dropping, we just got things. I don't. But let me know. Yeah. And when the HR, you know, when when Jeff kept saying, oh, now it's an HR thing, we've got to wait for Tim Johnson. Whatever whoever is Tim Johnson, Johnson Thompson to come back from whatever and have this meeting. I'm like, really? Like the shit y'all say on Jeff Lewis live. And that's what you need to get HR involved in. Like what? Yeah, I feel like I'm doing it when I work. Yeah. Thank you for doing this. And then you do look amazing. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Right. Do you feel like this was kind of played up a little for ratings? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I believe the, and I'm pretty sure about this. I'm, because I'm weird with numbers, I believe it was the day after the May 30th live event that was in Irvine, because I was at that event. That was one that they did. And if you go back and look at that, I don't think there's video. It's only audio because they were, what are they back in LA? Shoot. Maybe they were back in LA and there is video. But that's the one where Jeff says that was when he decided he was done with her because the caller called in and Jeff didn't feel like she defended him, but I don't feel like the caller was, it was, it was about Jeff's drama. It wasn't Megan's place to defend her. I'm sorry to defend Jeff Lewis. But that's, I think that's the last time she was on was May 30th, 2024, May 31st, 2024. So go listen to that video or watch that. And you'll get some insight, but Jeff has made it clear. That's the, that's the phone call that he felt like Heather had, you know, kind of jumped the shark and not wasn't on his side. Okay. And my super last question is like, how do we get things as well? Like Dr. Donna, is that? It was like so hard, so to do. But like, do you agree like the video is way worse? Like the video is like, oh my goodness. Um, to me, the videos are the commercial breaks are so interesting whether they decide to talk to each other or not. You know, like whether Jeff looks down the whole time. Right. Yeah. And not only that, you know, she was holding in here. So that was my like, you're making this one cry. Like she's done. I think that was the thing that like even, I don't know who will get some mercy. Like she was clearly was uncomfortable and about to cry. Well, it also, yeah, but two things is MJ who attended the memorial of her adult son who passed away suddenly. She brings up and honestly during that whole hotel of it all, I had forgotten that she's a grieving mom, not forgotten, but, you know, that wasn't on the forefront. And then the holidays are coming up and all this stuff. You know, it kind of, and then I'm like, oh my gosh, Jeff, you know this and you're still berating her over this. She brought this up to you off the air privately. And I feel like Jeff just used it for ratings. But at one point you hear during the commercials where Dr. Don even says, I think to Jeff, I can't remember something like, well, I gave you two hours of content and she kind of laughs it off. So she's kind of like she's in on the whole game of it. You know, she had a TV show or radio show. She's been in this business, not just as a counselor. You know, she's been in this media business of it all. So she kind of understands. And she knows Jeff the longest. She's been with him since flipping out, you know. Okay. Yeah. I feel like sometimes it's like they're ready to take a turn. Thank you so much for taking my call. You look amazing. Thank you for calling. Thank you for calling. Thanks. Hey, Trion, we're free. Um, yeah. Check, Chic 131 said content had definitely been lacking. This was all strategic. And here we are eating it up. I know. We fall into the trap, right? But I definitely been told by some very, uh, strong Jeff Lewis long listeners chumps that the content was lacking that the two hours is hard to listen to. Cause it's a lot of our day. I mean, you know, we, it's like we gained an extra hour of Jeff Lewis live, but we still only have 24 hours of the day. You know what I mean? So, um, okay. So what for those that again, I don't want to be asking for y'all to spill the Patreon stuff, but we know it's out there. I just want to know what is true. Did Heather McDonald or Brandy and Julie say that they got an, uh, a large payout from Sirius XM, a lawsuit? And did Heather McDonald say that Jeff Lewis's Bravo show is not happening? Can anyone confirm that for me? Um, Oh, Jordy says, I never saw or heard the Dr. Donna episode. So I don't know what happened. It was rough. It was the whole two hours. Um, it was, it was a lot. I mean, but there's both sides to it. There's people that feel and I get it. I've been on this side of Jeff Lewis on the radio. I've been where he said things that I didn't think were the full truth or definitely not my intention. And yet he didn't give me the foresight to call me and have that conversation with me and then he goes on the radio and says untruths and then everyone just believes that. So there's no going back from that. When, when Jeff Lewis says that Dr. Donna was ungrateful and kind of whining about the hotel, I really don't believe that. And there's a mixed feelings on people thinking that Dr. Donna brought it up to him privately off the radio, but that she also was looking out for him. Cause this, if this hotel isn't up to Jeff Lewis live standards, he just wanted, she just wanted Jeff to know, Hey, this is where you're putting your guests in somebody bigger than me might complain. And, but then he was like, Kelly Dodd has stayed there. Um, who else would he say? Countess Luann, Shannon Bador. But she gave a very good example of the flowers situation saying, but some people are going to complain behind your back and not to you. And I did not want that to happen cause I really care about you. Now I agree, I believed it. So Heather has a different point of view says, no, Dr. Donna was so rude and unappreciative, cancel her for good. So that's what I love about us is we can listen to the same calm content. And yet come to two different opinions or conclusions and respectfully state that. So LTD says, I've listened to date since day one in 2018 and never missed a show. His show is lacking now. Tell me more about that LTD. Do you feel like not enough is going on? Is it the co-host? Is it the, is it that Jeff is single and he's maybe not telling us ever, I feel like he's withholding a little bit of his relationship stuff, which is fine and respectful, but it's not what we've always come to expect from him. I don't know. I, I, I liked Hollywood house lift as a TV show. I'm not personally into his style of the contemporary design and all that. I'm way more traditional. So none of that really hit me wasn't into the actors. I thought they were kind of F listed at best. They were no one I was interested, definitely not Sarah Foster. Anywho, but I wanted more personal. I wanted him to have lunch with Shane. I wanted him to have lunch with Aurora. I wanted to see Zoila. We know that he can't show his daughter because of the decision with his ex, which is fine and respectful, but I just wanted to see some of that family stuff or, you know, I don't know if they filming at Christmas, you know, Christmas Eve, but, you know, at, at Todd and, and Carrie's because, you know, we know they love being on TV. So D says, you're talking about Jeff Lewis. I don't know what you're saying in the comments. By the way, if you're listening or watching this as a replay, it's available to podcast everywhere at Sarah from Texas, but on video on YouTube, Sarah from Texas podcast channel, you can hit the button that says live chat and you can see all the comments that people kind of wrote along with it. So I try to bring them up, but I can't see everything, of course. D says he's just a very unhappy man. So curious. Do you all think that Jeff has changed? None at all since flipping out to current day 2025. A little bit or a lot. Because that's something a lot of fans differ on for sure too. I have always said, you know, and I've had personal interactions with him. I've had a lot of text phone call, met him in person multiple times, things like that. But even on the radio and TV shows and his interviews on, you know, E or whatever those are, I don't feel like he's changed a lot. I feel like the world has changed a lot with being what you can, what is acceptable to say or do anymore. And he has admitted this. He says, what we said on TV five and 10 years ago, or did we can't even do anymore? Like we'd all be canceled. Like it's not even acceptable to berate an employee for pulling over to the side of the road. Do you all remember that episode of flipping out? Chris pulled over to the side of the road to make a phone call on his cell phone. And it was probably a work call. We don't know. Jeff's expectations as an employer are very high, which is great. And, you know, Jeff kind of berated him for not, for taking care of personal business on his work time. And we don't know what that was, but you just, now you couldn't tell someone. Don't take a call safely parked on the side of the road. They'd be like, no, take a call safe. I think it's illegal to be on the phone in California, right? So, um, okay. Deborah says Jeff isn't as explosive, but he still has the same personality. I think Jeff has very high expectations. I know people like this. I'm, you know, I share the same birthday with Jeff. He's three years old. I mean, March 24th, I'm not all into astrology and all that. But, you know, we're both aries. I do feel like I have parts of that personality of Jeff where if I can get all this done in 24 hours, why can't you? And as I'm 51, I have to realize, gosh, it's not about having 24 hours in a day. There's so much more to everybody's life. When someone's driving 20 in the fast lane and we get all pissed off at them, we don't know what they're going through. You know, we have no idea if they just came from the hospital. They just got diagnosed with something. If they're on their way to a fire, we don't know anything that's going on with them. So, there's so many reasons we can judge and not have any idea what's going on with people. But I think he also knows he's trying to do this new TV show. I think it's a done deal unless Heather McDonald was trying to spill some tea, not sure. But he's acting like it's a done deal with this Alex Baskin, 32 flavors production company of this flipping out 2.0, but we really don't know. He did not. Good question. Ashley says, did I miss an episode of Jeff Lewis Live? Did he ever address gauge going on juicy scoop or his thoughts on that? No. So, when is this three-ish weeks ago, four-ish weeks ago? On juicy scoop, it was a paid one at first. And then she opened it up a few days later, like the day before Thanksgiving or maybe Thanksgiving opened it up for free for everyone to see. It was gauge Edwards on juicy scoop with Dr. Drew. And Dr. Drew clearly knew nothing of the gauge in Jeff specifics. And I don't think he knew anything, which I have no problem with this. I have no problem. I've stated this so many times. I have no problem in theory with Scott engaging each other. I really think it's a good thing. And even a good thing for Monroe. I really do because I think Scott has been nothing but wonderful to Monroe. Anyway, so, and I think after this long, they're not doing it to get back on Jeff. You know what I mean? Like they clearly have stuff in common with having dated the same person for years. So it made sense that they would get together. You know what I mean? So, I don't know, but I think the issue was, and Jeff always said is Scott was with me when Gage was doing all that stuff to rock my world in the custody and all that. He knew all that, and then for him to go and get with Gage. But the thing is, maybe Scott heard Gage's side and maybe that opened his world. I don't really know, right? There's always three sides. Um, what else? Goodbye Kylie. Love the name. Says, yeah, we only get Jeff being a radio professional for two hours. We have no idea what he's like at home. Yeah. I mean, we kind of do with flipping out with Hollywood house. If we see him in the car, you know, we see him talking to his dad, you know what I mean? So, um, Jordy said Gage on Juicy Scoop alluded to everything, but actually said nothing. Yeah, so. Matthew said you can't build a relationship on hating Jeff. They have to be connected over other stuff. And I feel like they are, and that might have been, you know, because I used to chat with Scott. So if y'all are new here, um, Gage has had me block forever. Like, I never had any communication with him. Nothing. He's had me block forever. Probably because my account was Jeff Lewis-Stalker and then Jeff Lewis obsessed made sense to me, right? And Scott had never blocked me that I'm aware of, but I never looked at his. I never followed him. Never followed Gage. None of that. Uh, Scott one day, uh, I got a notification or, you know, when you look at your Instagram stories and it said Scott Anderson. And I was like, why? This was like a year after he and Jeff had broken up. I'm like, why is Scott Anderson who claimed to never want to be on radio, never wanted this public side of Jeff? Why is he broken up for a year? And he looking at the Instagram stories of a fan account about his boyfriend ex boyfriend. And I was like, Oh my God. So I made a story and I like circled it like with these bug eyes. And then I sent a DM to Scott and said, Hey, I made a story about this. Let me know if you're okay with this because I did feel like I didn't want to drag him in and like, you know, whatever. And I said, I'm just having fun. I'm just a fun fan account. I've never had anything against you. And I really don't. He was like, no, no, no, it's fine post that, whatever. We started a friendly DM conversation about him wanting to have kids. So anyways, because as we know when he and Jeff were kind of breaking up, Scott was trying to have his now baby and Jeff was trying to have another child and Jeff's surrogacy didn't work the pregnancy didn't work, but Scott's did. And then they ended up breaking up. So, I mean, yes, there's so many layers to this. You're right. So Meg said, Oh, I didn't know about gauge on juicy scoop. That's why he's lashing out at Justin and Dr. Donna. I mean, we don't know, but it's like, that's why you get, excuse me, gauge commenting underneath the picture of all of them. Heather Julie Brandy Megan Stu saying beef, you know, the emoji beef and Heather saying come next time and tagging gauge basically like come one come off. Now, the reason Justin will never be invited unless he and Heather have a pow wow and work things out is because they still have beef, but that could all come around. Because member Megan and Heather, the whole beef of that all was a conversation Megan had with Heather at Kelly Dodd's place and basically said, look, I don't like you and none of the chumps like you. They don't, they think you're arrogant. They don't want to be around you. What have you and Heather McDonald was like, Oh, my God, didn't emergency patreon then Jeff said you should have done their patreon and then they all made millions off of it or whatever they did, you know, so Thank you lady York's I hit the thumbs up button. I really appreciate it. Thank you. As the world turns Hamilton says for darn sure. Yeah, when Jeff disclosed. Oh, Diane says when Jeff disclosed to his medical issues, that was a HIPAA violation to make this an HR violation is ridiculous. I mean, yeah. I mean, I didn't really think about that, but you're right. They were definitely talking about. He was saying that Stu had an STD and Jeff was saying he got his STD or UTI, whatever it was back then from Stu Stu was like no. And y'all know, I'll never have anything bad to say about Stu that I'm aware of. I mean, you know, I thought he was a really nice guy and I don't feel like he was using Jeff, but, you know, I mean, anyone that's dating someone so out of their fame and money. I don't want to say they're using, but it's nice, probably. I don't know. I've never been in that situation. You know what I mean? So, but I'm just saying, I don't feel like he was in it for that by any means. You know what I mean? Yeah, Hamilton's yes. Love the gays. My beloved brother is gay. Hamilton says. Yeah. MTTX says I'm so confused about the Sarah Kelowna of it all. Heather McDonald didn't bash her, but it's so weird. But she's also not mentioning her at all, because I think she's trying to respect that Sarah is just doing what she needs to do professionally. But I have to think that Heather feels the dig of it all, especially since she doesn't come on Juicy Scoop anymore. I mean, in the beginning, Sarah made a comment somewhere saying everything's fine. There's no issue with me and Heather McDonald, but clearly, Heather McDonald was not at her annual huge Christmas party. One downfall some people wonder is when, you know, Krista in the earring gate of it all. So, Jeff and her became really good friends again, which they'd been on the out for like a year and a half before that over, I don't know, rat drinking, whatever, just, you know, he had bashed her. And then they became friends again, but Justin Martindale and his fiancee Evan have always or been good friends with Krista, like posting like holidays, like hanging out with Alice's birthday at Disneyland. And she's being really close friends, not just like acquaintances. So, we know that I think Krista was Justin's plus one at Sarah Kelowna's party. But Krista texted Jeff and said, Hey, just so you know, we're going to be at the same party. I just wanted you to know so it's not uncomfortable. And Jeff said they had a great conversation. Just hi, how's it going? I wish you the best, but there's nothing there for the future like he's not. He's trying to say for a couple years now he has boundaries and he's not going to keep going back and forth and back and forth, you know what I mean so. Rebecca says, going after reputations and livelihoods, it's horrible. Jeff is hurting his future with this. And Jeff is very clear to say people shouldn't talk about his livelihood and make it, and then he does it. So, you know what I mean, it's, it's interesting. What is the hair wrote? Chris Mills says is Jeff's hair transplant happening about now. I forget when he said no, it is either the day before or something around President's Day. So, he is already thinking, Oh, I'm going to be off that day because Sirius X him. It's a holiday. So I'll be able to have one more day of recovery. I think he's doing it Thursday ish. So he thought Friday, then Saturday, Sunday, Monday, but now I think he's realizing it's like a two week recovery. It's very. A very big recovery. And that's why they're delaying apparently the flipping out 2.0 filming from January to April. So now Michael Beck, who's the show runner executive, whatever he is, kind of is between jobs and might need to get another job because of the hair transplant that Jeff's decided he needs. Donna Maria says, I'm very disappointed in Sarah Colona and fortune themester Sarah's cool, but not great fortune and Heather were hilarious together. I do wonder what fortune really thinks about everything because as much as some people have been able to keep doing things like. Countess. Louise will go when she's in town. She will go on Jeff Lewis live and she will immediately in the same outfit, Giovanni go on Heather McDonald's juicy scoop. And there's no issue with that Jeff, but Jeff doesn't big consider himself close close friends with Countess Louise. So some people he gives a pass to. And some he was like, no, because that's kind of with the Megan of it all. He was like, look, if you're going to hang out with my exes people that hate me. Brandi Heather Julie Stu. When Megan decided that Jeff was like, no, but yet Kelly Dodd can hang out with some of the people that hate Jeff and Jeff can hang out with some of the people that hate Kelly Dodd. And there's no issue. So in some of our minds, it doesn't always make sense, but we all have those relationships that don't always make sense. It's like. Yeah, but so it's all his, you know, whatever's good question. Camitria says, do you think Ryan Bailey was one of the people had an issue with Justin. They haven't been on together in a while and they were pretty good together. When Ryan and Justin came on together, they admitted they didn't know each other at all because Justin is in the comedian world with a podcast. Ryan Bailey is highly in the podcast world. And Justin admittedly didn't really watch the housewives and all those TV shows. I think now he might, but Ryan watches all of them. But yeah, they were clearly just a great duo. It was like doctor, not Dr Donna, Judge Lauren Lake and Zacknoey Towers. I mean, just the duo you would never expect to be great together. And yet I think Dr. Judge Lauren Lake and Zacknoey Towers are just fantastic together. So I don't know. I mean, I've met Ryan Bailey also a few times. Um, much more down to earth. And I don't want to say, I don't, I don't mean that the Justin is snotty. I just mean Justin is more confidence. I mean, I don't know how you put that. Just maybe in the way he talks. I don't really had to say that really. Yeah, Matthew, yeah, Matthew says Ryan's out for a week or so with sign a surgery that was always planned. So it'll be a bit before we hear him say anything. I can't imagine he will get involved. I feel like Justin would get involved. Like in the beginning, Justin would say little bitty comments about Heather McDonald, things like that. But then I think they all agreed. We're not going to talk about that at all. If she doesn't emergency patreon, we are not going to respond. The not, you know, no response is a response. So that goes for a lot of things. If you text someone and they don't text spot, no response is a response. So when I don't talk about something, it's a response. When Jeff Lewis doesn't talk about something, it's a response. When Justin quit talking about Heather McDonald, it's a response. So, Mama Judy says, yes, I agree. Ryan Bailey is much like Doug. He can get along with anyone. And I feel like he'll have his own opinions, but he knows who to tell him to and who not to. I feel like Doug has a lot of strong opinions and might be really honest with Jeff and Jeff might really take Doug's opinions to heart, but Doug knows who to say that stuff and who not to. The hardest part is the Megan and Doug friendship. Because I do feel like Megan and Doug had a true friendship and now there's just no way, or if it is, it's very much on the downside. Erica says, by the way, there are so many new people here so thank you so much for joining us. If you love celebrity news, reality TV Jeff Lewis live advice we're really headed into an advice type situation. We love chatting, kind of a great conversation last night with four other friends about working moms and stay at home moms. Anyway, so that was fascinating. Anyways, but join us everywhere at Sarah from Texas podcast and make sure you're following me everywhere. Erica said, Zach was mentioned that Jade sent him the message and told her to tell Jeff fortune 100 fortune beams or 100% would have Zach side. Yeah, but Zach's really not involved in it, you know what I mean, that we know of. I mean, I don't know that Zach and Justin had an issue or not, you know what I mean. Yeah, Stoney said is because you're on the weekend so new people are here. Yeah, we go live every weekday at 4pm Eastern but then it goes up as a replay so you can always listen to it. So only 11 likes you all make sure to hit the thumbs up button, I would really appreciate it hit the subscribe button in the bottom right if you can to. Okay, we have a few more minutes so any questions and comments any phone calls, you can always email me at ask Sarah from Texas at gmail.com. What else. Okay, for those that were at Chompmas. Was it a big deal when Jade stood up others 86 likes thank you. Was it a big deal was it not a big deal. Are these people just tribe bonding are you okay, or do you have a problem because there's so many sides and I guess I get it because I get so many DMS and I love hearing from y'all, but I get so many DMS about the response to the picture of Heather McDonald and them. And then other people saying well can't they be friends why can't they y'all have a problem if they can't be friends, but then other people might see it more as you know little smirkiness a little like they could go and have dinner but yet not post about it you know what I mean so here's steps to Megan Heather McDonald, Brandy and Julie, you know, and I guess it's the comments it's the caption you know lots to talk about lots coming. What did Julie say in a comment something about you know, 2024 was whatever 2025 is going to be better you know so just storm says desperate dinner. I mean I love an alliteration. I don't know, I, they're all in somewhat of the same business. I feel like they probably definitely talked about this Trump virus stuff but I feel like they probably don't talk about the Megan and whatever to all anymore you know what I mean so I don't know. Oh stony says not an accident that Heather's in the middle of it well yeah she's the queen bee she's definitely gonna you know what I mean so. Oh good quite we don't really know I mean goodbye Kylie says what happened with Melanie McQueen. I mean, I don't know I've been given lots of information for months from people to stay clear of her. They would see her in here and be commenting a lot and in my Facebook group and I would talk to her on the phone about different things and, and then recently someone that you know, admittedly starts or has a hate group about the Reddit sub thread sub Reddit thread I think they called it. Anyway, sent me a very long email with lots of details and pictures trying to prove things so I don't know. I did have a chat with Melanie between the other day I won't go into the details but you know we ended it well and just said, look, you know, wish you well type thing because I don't know that I've been so after the last couple years I just shocked by people that I thought we had a good friendship and then they'll do anything for 10 seconds of fame on Reddit or an Instagram live or what have you so no idea. But if you ask me facts or ask me a question I'll always tell you the answer. Yes, Matthew says Justin McDonald, Justin Martindale and John Hill are old buddies from high school in Texas I hope it doesn't affect their friendship. That's the tricky part is that you know like Jeff and Krista were on bad terms but yet Justin still posted pictures and tagged Krista. So I always kind of wonder but again Justin only seemed to care about his inner circle. But I think with Megan and Stu being friends and posting about it he was like look, I don't want to worry that I say something to Megan privately and now she hangs out with Stu so it gets back to Stu like he was like I don't want Stu knowing anything about me. So I don't want to be hanging out with people so he and Justin aren't like hanging out. He and John Hill aren't like hanging out so you know. Yeah, I know I think those are real mug shots, not mine, but anyways I don't get into that you know. Yes, she was admittedly on mushrooms. Erica says Megan was on mushrooms when she yelled at her at Heather McDonald at Kelly Dodds. But I also wonder if some of that truth comes out you know because again that was another situation where other people were saying. I never said this but my former co host at one point several times, admitted that the only person that wasn't kind to us at the season one. Hollywood House of premier party was Heather McDonald. So I never said that but my former co host did so anyways. Okay, real quick we're going to get off soon but chump con I figured. Jeff has a long friendship with Adrian Maloof she's got all these palm hotels all this connection in Las Vegas. So I figured it was maybe Adrian Maloof that he was going to visit with this weekend to finalize and tour the resort and all these things and maybe announce it soon. Also, she's scheduled to be on the show this week so I was like oh perfect timing you know what have you. But then he posts this picture of him and Lisa Vanderpumpen says much to discuss so you know I don't think she has a hotel in Las Vegas but she's got a couple of this Lisa Vanderpumpen hotel no she has his restaurants right and bars. Anyway so I'm a bit confused on that we know that chump con here is the picture with Jeff on his Instagram grid which is rare but he put much to discuss. And he tagged Lisa Vanderpump in it so no idea. It's not Liz I know everyone gets let me clear this up Erica says smartest thing I heard Jeff say all week was that he's bringing Liz Rome with him. It's not Liz Rome. It's not L.I.S. Rome R.O.H.M. that is the actor director on Lifetime. It is Liz Roman Liz Roman who is Jeff's. If you go to the event you will have seen Liz Roman. This is Liz Roman who he brought is his business manager. Liz Roman R.O.M.A.N. and she is very good friends with Heather McDonald so they just kind of kept that. Wait is she still following Heather? Oh she's not feathering Heather McDonald okay. She's not following Heather McDonald she's really good friends with Heather McDonald anyways that is. Jeff's business person at business manager I think is what he calls it. Anyway so very different person yeah I know people DM me about that all the time so anyways. Okay well thank you so much for joining again make sure you're following me everywhere. 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