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CDKNG.com/promos for deposit wagering in eligibility restrictions, terms and responsible gaming resources. Now let's get off. The Jets defeated the Dolphins 32-20, but the big news came out after the game. Tyreke Hill basically said he wanted out of the Dolphins organization. Let's take a listen to the sound of Joe Elle whoa. I don't even know, bro. This is my first time I haven't been in the playoffs, man, so I mean, for me, like I said, man, I just got to do what's best for me and my family. If that's here or that's where every case may be, man, I'm in the old net door for myself. I'm opening the door, right? I'm out, bro. It was great playing here, but, you know, right at the end of the day, bro, I got to do what's best for, you know, for my career and, you know, what's best because I want to watch a competitor would be, you know, this means out there means that there's a reason. Oh, Joe, he's emotional, he's emotional after a win, understanding he's always been in the playoffs and then having to be home, you know, he left Patrick by home to go to tour. What did he think? Now, remember, he was running his mouth tour is more accurate than Patrick by home, but he's sticking up for his quarterback. Don't do that. Come on, man. Oh, Joe, come on. You mean to tell me, okay, so you're going to say, oh, yeah, but what you call him is better than Tom Brady. Ain't no sense in doing that. Ain't nobody to believe that. Ain't nobody said tour, plus his injury history, which you knew, but I go to show you fan, you see, 30 million came by, you happen is when you get in your eyes beating, you play with a quarterback that's injury prone. So you're dependent on if the backup can come in and keep that thing going. What's the one thing about how many games is packing home, miss? That's why you factor in all of that when you make a decision like you make. You got the money for looking them stats. He looking at all them guys that got them. So Joe, Tyree Hill has never not been to the Pro Bowl. Now, when they talk about Oh, Joe, last year, the players voted him the number one player. Yeah, what do you think you're going to be this year? Let's talk about this. Go ahead, let's talk. Where can we see Tyree Kiel going being that he's put that out there like that. Understanding his frustrations and not having the type of season that Tyree Kiel should have, who, who by all means, regardless of this down season, it's still a top three top five while receiving this NFL. Correct? Hey, I don't know where he is. Oh, hell top five. What a what top five receiver. You know, requesting a trade. Now, I know now we knock now we're not going to do this. We're not going to do this on Beyonce's internet. We're not going to do this on Beyonce's internet. Yo, Tyree Kiel is not a top five player just simply because they would let the kimon act. Don't do me like that. Don't do me like that. With understanding to his injuries, backups, things suffer, he can't throw the ball to himself back to that end when you made that top two was hurt before you got there. He was hurt in college. You didn't fact it out here. You didn't care. Hold on. Every chance he got, he took a shot at the Kansas City Chiefs. They didn't have to trade it. They traded it. When years left on his contract, they offered him money, but they couldn't get to the game. They were trying to lowball him. Don't do that. They were trying to lowball. Oh, Joe, basically. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe, they hold on. You remember the year before? They ask him, would he restructure the contract? Tyree Kiel said, no, what's outside the contract? Outside the contract. Ain't no restructuring. Now, what happened to that a year later? If you sign a contract and you don't restructure in their favor, why should they sign a contract for you in your favor? They said that. I'm just going by what he said. Now, if there's a lie, he said it. We can pull the tapes if you want to. You see, you see what happens? You see what happened to me? Oh, Joe, he didn't have to say Kansas City doesn't write by him. I got fired by CBS. You've never ever heard me or heard a bad word about CBS. Fox, let me go. I have an utter bad word. They gave me an opportunity. CBS gave me my first media job on network television, the Tiffany network. I'm grateful. FS1 gave me a chance to show that I could do, I could be more than a football player. I could talk about more sports than just football. I'm forever grateful. That's not what he did with Kansas City. Every chance he got, he took a shot at him. Now, look at it. Hold on. He should be made to stay his ass in Miami. Nah, he's going to be all right. He's going to be all right. But we're going to get it done. But, you know, once you put the bait out there like that, you know, team is going to come and call in there. Team team. I'm going to low ball you because I know he won't out. Why would I give you what he's worth when I know he won't out? I know you look, I know you're housed by the going foreclosure. I'm not finna get you what is worth. I know you need to sell that car. I'm not going to give you what is worth. You got valuable. You got watches. You got whatever the case may be. Why would I pay you what is worth when I know you got to get up off it? He's seeing. Think about it. Think about how what Hollywood will look, a three-time Super Bowl champ. Now, maybe he doesn't have 1,700 yards. But Ocho wasn't there between 50. You think if Tyree Heel stayed in Kansas City and instead of having 1,700, 1,800 yards, he has 1,500 yards, do they view Tyree candy differently? They don't. They don't. They don't. I like you know, you see how you put the bait out there though. What if he end up back in Kansas City? I'm sure I'm sure my homeboy love to have it. Yeah. Come back home. Teal took between your legs on. Oh, you see that Ocho? It's funny how that thing workated. Sometimes, sometimes you got to go back to your ex. There's no place like home in that wood dark. Oh, whoa, whoa. You think I'm about to let you sleep down at that? Y'all heard it, Jack. You think I'm about to sleep? Let you sleep down at that? What you mean? What you try to get at, Ocho? Oh, no, I'm just saying, I'm just saying in general. No, no, it ain't no just. There's never, there's never, there's no such thing as just, there's always a reason. Nobody just does anything. Do you just sit in your car or do you get in your car to go to work? Or do you get in your car to go to the gym? Or do you get in your car to go to the store? Or do you get in the car and go to the airport? There's never just, there's always a reason. Now, again, I was using the reference. I was just using the reference in general. I was using the reference in general. Sometimes, sometimes you don't understand what you got until it's gone. So Tyreek would agree understanding after a short stint here in Miami. What's going that you want us to have a better understanding and appreciation for? Who? Yeah. Can you fly? Let me see you turn your head all the way around. So you ain't no hour. So I ain't talking about you. You, you. Right. I mean, you asked the question again, I didn't hear you. I say, what, what have you lost that you realized that it was, it's better home than away. I was in reference. We were talking about Tyreek. We were talking about Tyreek. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I do seem to be off track a little bit. I'm not sure where you're going with this. Hold up. Then Mike McDaniel spoke about Tyreek not playing the fourth quarter. Let's take a listen to what Mike McDaniel had to say. I was informed that he was unavailable. And right, right before a drive, I was not informed that it was a new injury. And you know, I think, you know, at that point in time, my focus was on the players. And I didn't take the time to go try to figure out more into that. Just it there. There was guys on the field that were competing. We were trying to win a game. So my focus was there. That's not a good look, Ocho. That's a horrible look, Ocho. That's what the head coach said. Tyreek, he took himself out of the game. No different. What then what DeBonday Campbell did? That is absolutely no different. Said it was an injury. No, no. Mike McDaniel just said he was brief that there was no new injury. Oh, I thought, oh, wait, are you sure that's what he said? I thought he just said he. That's exactly what he said. That, no, you didn't know. You heard it. You heard it right the first time. Built up frustration, man. What is the greatest question? So let me ask you a question. He frustrated. Do you think he going to get that check tomorrow? So he's not going to be too frustrated not to get that check. But he too frustrated to take his ass in the game. You see? Yeah. This is why NFL players don't get guaranteed money. This is the argument that those owners use. Oh, no, you can't. We know it's bull jive. Oh, yeah. Oh, Joe, you can't quit. Oh, Joe, stop. You may excuse the **** when the man told you. Why you do that? Why do you make excuses for these guys? Oh, Joe, excuse. You just said it was a new injury. Mike McDaniel said he was informed that the man said he was unavailable and it was to his knowledge. It was not an injury. A new injury. No, he said it was a new injury. Do you? You heard your mouth. Hey, re-rack that sound. Right. Listen to it again. I was informed that he was unavailable and right before a drive. I was not informed that it was a new injury. And I think at that point in time, my focus was on the players. And I didn't take the time to go try to figure out more into that. There were guys on the field that were competing. You're trying to win a game. So you want to try to make another excuse for it? Don't hear it. Florence yours. Yeah, I heard I heard it that time. He wasn't informed about a new injury, but he was informed about the old one. Oh, let's move on. I'm not going to get into it about you. The Patriots defeated the bills 23 to 16. After the game, Jared Mayo wasn't informed. He would not be returning as the head coach. And once he now, we just talked about it. We just talked about this last night on. We just talked about this last night on Mike Frable. You put up the goddamn avatar with you in your, you're knowing the Patriots uniform. You knew what that meant. I told you, you listen, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. He knew the job was he is already. They had been told that's tampered. You gave Jared Mayo one year, one year is not enough time to do anything in the NFL. Nothing at all. The question is that one year with those same players, how many games did Coach Belichick get? When you. Oh, snap. Those were the same players that Coach Belichick had. They got the third pick in the draft. What draft did they get this year? The fourth pick in the draft. With a lot of the same players, the only difference they got a quarterback, they drafted a rookie quarterback. Yeah, great. Yeah. So I have a question. Since Jared Mayo's lease was so short, being a year, Mike Frable comes in. I'm assuming all the assuming that Mike Frable is going to be the next head coach of the New England Patriots. What's going to happen next? How short is his lease going to be? It ain't going to be one year. Or does he get a little bit more grace? Coach Belichick was five in 11 if I'm not mistaken. He got another year. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying there's anything funny. I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying that's what Coach Belichick got. Jared Mayo was supposedly handpicked by the crowd family, mainly Mr. crowd. And he got one year. But I told you last night, he was he understood that if he didn't have Mike Brable now, he was not going to get a chance to hire him because Mike Brable is going to get hired. He's going to get hired on the coaching cycle. Yep. Definitely getting hired. Yep. And man, that's not I mean, listen, the business is always been the business. The game has always been the game. And when it comes to the business, sometimes the business is dirty. It is. And in this, in the fact that Gerard Mayo, I think it's not as bad for him. He lives in Foxboro. He was already there. He was under Billichott's toolage. I was just thinking about for family and circumstances of having to pick up and move and leave and stuff like that. But obviously, man, I'm not leaving to no Fox where that man ain't going to live in no Foxboro. He's not the coach. But he's been coaching there for years, huh? He's been in Foxboro. I want you to say what you just said. Repeat what you just said to the chat. He's been doing what? Living in Foxboro. Doing what? Coaching. Okay. So what is he doing now in Foxboro? Well, he's nothing. He's no longer. Thank you. Oh, I have a question. Is it is it disrespectful? Is it disrespectful for Braille to have him on his staff? Why would I want to be a head coach? I'm the head coach. And now I'm going to be an I'm going to be a decorator or an assistant on the staff. I'm asking you, I'm asking the question. You know, you know, how that could, you know, how the coaching world works. You always keep a job when you're in certain circles. You always keep a job when you are in certain circles. I'm just curious to hear the thing. This is not going to be a situation where I don't believe Mr. Craig will pick anybody on Mike Braille's staff. That'll be a Mike Braille decision. Yeah, me personally, I don't know if I'm the head coach, get them get fired. And all of a sudden I come back and I'm the defensive coordinator. Right. Now I might go somewhere else if you're a decorator. Right. But I don't know if I don't know if I could be able to be that vehicle, Joe. I'm just being honest. Right. Right. Right. Right. I mean, let's whoa. And another thing. Now, we don't get the opportunities as often as others. That's what I was saying. If the opportunity presented itself, do you take it or do you sit back and say, no, you know what? I had my time here. My time here is done. I'm going to move on. And hopefully, I get a chance somewhere else maybe to be a head coach, but maybe to do what I do best. And that is be a defensive coordinator. Let me ask you this. How many years did he get? He did a three or four year deal. Man, why are all these lights on? Man, I'm not paying this electric bill. He's out of seven year deal. Yeah. Oh, Joe. Yeah. That man signed a seven year deal. It got one. And listen, he got the paid at home. No, he's out of he's no, he's out like a four year. They got a a they got to pay that whole thing, right? No, no, no, he got. I think he signed a four year deal. I mean, they got the paid at home for years, right? Unless he go get another job and then it's offset. So whatever he does, whatever he they'll make it up. Right. Right. Right. College, you don't really have offset. I think it was like a three or four year deal. But that hurt, but I'm just thinking about it. Well, that should have been that should have told him three years. Most coaches get five six now. That's crazy. At minimum. Right. You don't feel bad? Uh, uh, uh, what was the man rule got like a six or eight year deal when he went to Carolina? Yeah. And coaches got a good way. Yeah. There's Joseph left. He was the head coach. He got fired. He went as a DC. Yeah. There was in between. He was a DC. Went. Boom. Went to, uh, uh, the Cardinals. Yeah. Came back to the Broncos as a DC. Right. Yeah. Could I see that? But no, to be on that staff after being the head coach. No, I'm good. I'll sit this one out. Hmm. Yeah, I leave. 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excuse me the cowboys lose to the commanders 2319 after play by mariota the terry mclorin excuse me jerry jones saved 550 000 by not playing cooper rush today to avoid a snap incentive what claims he didn't know let's take a listen to the sound of jerry talking after the game i didn't even know about it until i read about it so nothing nothing at all those incentives are in there for the team and we put them in there so that if someone is in his case as a backup quarterback has to play they've got uh the financial incentives but they're usually put in there because of people representing and there should be so uh uh he did uh really uh pretty serious incentives issue didn't i tell you joe chat didn't i tell y'all jerry they know what the hell he was doing how do you do the general manager you don't want to do the current tracks i thought oh joe if you do the current track oh they're putting there so you mean to tell me uh uh agent can sneak some stuff by somebody of course not the general manager reads over everything um you see what i'm saying chat all you got to do is listen to jerry and jerry will really tell you how little he knows about the game yeah um he knew about them god damn incentives he knew about them damn incentives why in the hell did they just start trade lands just for the sake of for the sake of things the last week of the season you knew what you was doing you didn't want of course it be money on we've heard stories like this this happens all the time it happened all the time and this was done purposely and you know to us you know to to the people in the chat by a thousand a lot of money but we think about it to someone like jerry you penny pension why you penny pension well you see what it cost him darrick henry had more rush yards by himself than the entire cowboys organization cowboys have 50 hundred yards rushing in five touchdowns darrick henry had 19 21 and 16 touchdowns but you somehow you thought Zeke was a better option than darrick henry darrick henry cost the ravens two years 16 million dollars that there is an offer that probably considering he played so well they'll probably give but they'll probably give another extra year probably bump that up to about 12 million uh huh mhm because i believe darrick henry had at bare minimum have at least two more years yeah at two more at the level that he might not rush for another 1900 but can i interest you in 1500 yeah playing with lamar because lamar hand the ball to him and roll out to the backside he gonna hold that backside in every time that darrick henry been that thing back so for the song but this is embarrassing jerry should start speaking he really good because he makes himself look bad it really does he makes himself look he makes himself look awful i don't think he cares he doesn't care but he cares oh he absolutely cares i don't give because privately when people when people that he have a relationship with and they say stuff oh he reach out he cares he absolutely cares i know one thing he knew kupursh had that goddamn incentive in a damn contract owners know all that stuff they know everything they're brief on who's to get paid what before a game is happening what money is supposed to be shelled out what players need catches runs passes throws percentages they know all that they're briefed on it before those games come up the following week he knew that's why the decision was made the bench him to make sure he didn't hit those incentives yeah um but i honestly ocho i mean kupursh i mean kupursh trade last they look too bad not even too bad i mean obviously he got legs but we know he got legs but i mean look he missed the throw he had died there he tried to aim it and it nose-dived on it but i mean hey maybe with some rest of that look i ain't saying he about to be jane daniels i'm not saying he gonna be any of these guys that i ain't saying all that right but i i think that he showed me enough right that if the cowboys don't bring him back somebody was gonna give me an opportunity yeah they're gonna give me an opportunity but uh market tomorrow yoda had a 15 or 18 161 two touchdowns jane dane was six or twelve cowboys are what we thought they'd be i mean is it is it are the cowboys what we thought they'd be or the cowboys are what they've always been both okay two things can be true yeah yeah hopefully hopefully they get things together next year because i like the cowboys i like the cowboys fans i like the cowboys players i don't like the people that actually run the cow not personally i'm just saying the way they do things this was the first time i don't think i think the cowboys fans come to the realization you think they get it yeah they're not delusional anymore i don't know they realize that jerry's the issue and they're not gonna go anywhere this is the first time that i actually think that's that's what happened i think it would be the same thing next year training camp it's gonna be filled up jerry's world september september ninth whatever the season starts pre-season jerry's world is going to be filled up as long as they're coming in nothing can stop nothing going to change jerry jones also craze macare people wouldn't commit to the future this is what jay's later tweeted earlier jay and i know jay she's come on uh f s one uh undisputed a couple of times i love her when she talks about the cowboys yeah she know what biz huh jerry jones kept talking about wanting a coach that would agree to an incentive based contract oh chope i'm not gonna give you eggs but if you win the division if you good to the nfc championship game you win the super bowl that's not how coaches work but check this out but i argue the market pays otherwise then he said he didn't want anyone who didn't want to be here but i argue but if someone doesn't it doesn't make you feel like you're warning why would you make no mistake there are plenty coaches who want this job he's not wrong about uh uh coach uh uh job requires a level of ambiguity that he might not subscribe he might subscribe to for other struggle to stomach so in other words he note there's only 32 of them oh Joe yeah there's only 32 NFL head coaches hmm the Dallas Cowboys is the most visible most recognizable pro sports team in all the world you take those soccer clubs you take all of them the Dallas Cowboys have it is more valuable than all of them they make more money than all of them 10.1 billion that is what they're worth jerry knows that but you see oh i'm a wata if what i take an incentive based contract considering you get the you get all the control i don't get by i don't get no say in the final 53 i get no say in the draft i get no say it previously but you really control my destiny oh Joe i wouldn't do it i wouldn't do it and you say you say it's probably one of the most prominent you know coaching jobs there is out there but who wants to go who wants to go coast there who would want to go listen if you go coast if you go coast in the circus you won't be able to tell a difference from the clowns i said i said that i said that quote wrong i said it wrong but you get what i'm saying yes no i i but who would want to do that oh Joe yes this man said he wanted coach to take an incentive based contract he's so he's unserious he's unserious he's unserious this is why things are going the way they're going very unserious and oh man oh Joe you dare serious incentive oh yeah oh he absolutely serious it's almost laughable yeah until he uh i'm sorry players i can't openly root for the Cowboys i'm rooting for the players i'm rooting for Dak in cde i can't because it's fruit of the poisonous tree it's contaminated because he owns the team and the things that he's done they're just employed so i'm i don't know it's called fruit they have you know it's fruit of the poisonous tree absolutely okay so it's contaminated i can't but hey and i like i like a lot of the players i do but i will call the ass out when i think they're no play to the level of the other standard that they should be yeah as a player in this league given their tenure absolutely i'm gonna call them out absolutely but no not them not uh uh with with him i'm good oh Joe Mike Evans extends his 1000 yard streak matches Jerry Rice all time instead of taking a knee to run out the clock the Buccaneers won one last play to get Mike Evans three million dollar bonus it was Mike Evans 11th straight 1000 yard season live that's live now now you you see the difference you see the you see the difference i wouldn't have that dream knew that you think that you knew that Mike Evans needed to go right they know because they talked about it on tv before it even happened you know Mike being able to reach his incentive the three million dollar incentive yes the gm knew he understood and gonna make sure Mike got it no that's that's the difference i love it i love it difference i love it i love it i love when teams reward their players Mike Evans has been nothing but a model citizen for Tampa he had an opportunity to possibly leave for greener pastures and free agencies he took less money because his family was there he's been great in the community and he's like you know what i want i want to be a one-hillman guy yeah and they rewarded him for that loyalty they've been loyal to him he's been loyal to them he's been nothing but a great player and a great ambassador for that organization and this is how it should be yeah when someone have rewarded you with their play in the loyalty i believe a team should pay that back not all teams do this a lot of times loyalty only goes one way it normally goes player to team and the team never reciprocate that loyalty to the player like it's been reciprocate because even tara braiding every i'm talking about tara braiding did all that at the end of the day what did the papers do hey it's a dirty game the game is the game biddness business um Mike Evans congratulations one of the great receivers in NFL history 11 straight seasons of a 1,000 receiving yards we thought that record in jeopardy what you remember you pulled his hamstring you missed three games three games but bakers say bro come on back i got you so Mike congratulations very well deserved 11 straight seasons of 1,000 yards that only jerry rice has more 14 that's live the Eagles defeated the jazz 20 to 13 chat around the league joe joe joe shong shine with showing will remain with the jazz but brian day ball is out oh so do you agree should uh mara have just cleared house um you know what um with no quarterback you know what's gonna happen right who's the quarterback the who's the who's the gm that paid the quarterback yeah who was the gm that got rid of saquon yeah who's the gm that drafted every meal who was that gm yeah you right but listen i'm saying fire and brian day ball and you're bringing in someone new and you you bringing them in you're bringing in someone new to the exact same situation because until you resolve the quarterback issue it's gonna be the same cycle repeating itself in the next two to three years until you get a quarterback in that you continue to build a team around in the hello is that the coach job or the gm job that the gm okay so why the coach going in the gm staying because he picked those players well you you preaching to the choir you preaching to the choir but usually when you're positioned in power you get to call the shots and do what you want to do you make mistakes you don't have to take no accountability for that up on somebody else huh it is there it is and that is exactly what they're doing well you know what i didn't do this right but you know i'm a fire you it's your fault the giant look the only thing the Giants have uh Malik neighbors if legit 109 catches uh the second most in a rookie season um Brock buyers broke that record later i think he had like 110 he almost broke the uh the record for the most catches by a tight end um he finished a little just a little short of Zach urge record of 116 um Malik mud neighbors uh that catch that touchdown catch and run that he had hmm sensational yeah um they got plenty of money um i'm trying to get a quarterback yeah um maybe you need to stop gap now that doesn't stop me from drafting one but in the meantime do i go out and do i pay or do i pay or say i'm Donald oh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa stop right down Minnesota is not letting Sam Donald get up by that building i could say that right now uh the man uh he traded Leonard Williams remember Leonard Williams they had a heck of a season in Seattle yeah remember the man gave up two first round picks uh uh uh in Brian Burns in the Giants Brian Burns came from Carolina to the Giants right but somebody offered two first round uh uh so hold on wouldn't he give him to get Brian Burns they got down they didn't give him too much but here's the thing Carolina have that up because somebody had two first rounders on the table for him and they turned they were above that only to take a second of a fear so um but it's just a thing it's just stuff that it was just stuff that that the gentleman i don't know how he keeps his job in Brian Dayball i'm not look i'm not an advocate for Brian Dayball right but i'm definitely not an advocate for the uh general manager that was terrible that's been terrible just awful the Bears did something they haven't done ocho since 2018 oh yeah they defeated the Packers on the walk-off 51 yard field goal 24 to 22 Green Bay uh was right to play for the six seed and week 18 but leaving the game with injury Kristen Watson with a knee your love with an elbow scary times in Green Bay you have to wait there was no diagnosis after the game so we'll have to wait i'm sure they're going to get MRIs tomorrow uh Watson looked like a non-contact it didn't look good yeah it did not look good ocho um George Love elbow he left the game did not come back um Caleb Williams 21 to 29 148 a touchdown uh DJ Moore nine catches 86 yards gonna touch down Chino Lala had three for 25 uh Malik Willis 10 to 13 bro Malik if you want to play a lot long time at NFL you better see that pre-release safety to hit you in your damn chest now you lucky that was a safety what if that was a line back ocho oh it wouldn't have been nice that wouldn't have been nice how you not ocho how you not see that and you see it you know you know in the game when the game is moving on oh Joe i'm a right-handed quarterback right that guy hit me in my face do you know how hard it is for a guy to get a shot that ain't a block yes you right-handed that guy hit you in your face not too bad the left side is your blind side you a right-handed quarterback ocho did he not hear the line and look like they lived the call right in man of the line of scrimmage is your guy you got to throw hot off him he never saw him did the receipt did receive it ran a hot rock he didn't even look to see no job just being honest you remember early this rookie season Justin Fields got caught with a shot just like that like that they not gets helmet off yeah I remember that I remember that you don't want to take too many of those shots not no clear shot like that you don't get enough hits in your back you know you throw the ball ocho right then get you at the last second huh bro you don't want to make a living taking crash crash dummy shots like that yeah as we were talking to CM Punk I mean you're like okay I can this is an opportunity to bear show me a little something today yeah now it wasn't oh Joe it wasn't great no they only had a little over 200 yards yeah 230 240 but Caleb Williams was 21 of 29 okay that's good night he made some throws sometimes I think he tries to throw too much off balance but the throw he had the DJ Moore was off balance trying arm angles but uh I think with the right coach I think I think they got talent I was just getting ready to say that you get the right coach in there you know with him boy sky's the limit sky's the limit you can see Caleb William gives you hope Caleb William gives you promise you know based on what you know you can do again I say it about quarterback all the time he plays good in search but you can see the potential let him get the right coach in there and watch what happens hey it's Bobby Bones join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast lots to say the Bobby Bones and Matt Castle between us we have over 17,500 passing yards multiple New York Times bestsellers and one mirror ball trophy from dancing with a star so where else you get to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight based in Nashville we're more than just your basic NFL show we talk sports but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit everything because we got lots to say I texted you and you texted me back now I don't know if you have the update but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff like it's all colored they changed it and the heart's a little pink it felt like I told you I loved you I'm gonna be honest it was a little pink there was something sentimental when you feel like when you send it here's like do I send the heart now I don't like the color edition it's extremely pink listen to lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts hey there it's Michael Lewis author of Going Infinite Moneyball the Blind Side and Liars Poker on every season of my podcast Against the Rules I take a broad look at various characters in American life the referee the coach the expert my next season's all about fans and with the rise of sports betting is doing to them to the teams and even to my family I'm heading to Las Vegas and New Jersey and beyond to understand America's newest form of legalized gambling listen to Against the Rules on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts what's going on everybody this is Justin Pennick from John Boy Media the host of the football today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose we're rolling three times a week on Mondays on Wednesdays on Fridays breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL we're talking about the MVP race is Josh Allen gonna pull it out Lamar Jackson can take on Barkley even break the rushing record can the Steelers keep up their momentum we talk about everything we break it down stats analytics and of course Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well listen to football today on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad you did hope you could join us for the post-season run oh Joe yeah parents have defeated the Falcons in overtime right show does it they walk it off 44 38 right young accounts for five five one two three four five think oh three passing to rushing as they beat the Falcons 44 38 and OT Falcons missed the playoffs I think right I think Carolina found a quarterback of the future they had him all along absolutely guys started making plays if you go back and look at the game look at them guys making plays Coca made some hell of a place Adam feeling made I mean guys made tough catches today oh Joe that's what you have to do yeah guys have to make I mean you have to make tough catches for a guy I mean damn the guy can't put him between the the numbers all the time yeah just is anywhere in the vicinity just put it in the area that's all that you got a young quarterback he's struggling make some tough catches let him get some confidence mm-hmm he was 24 25 or 34 251 three touchdowns uh Michael Pertenas Jr had an outstanding day at a losing effort right he was 21 to 36 312 two touchdowns one of the exception B. John Robinson had a monster they'd run him the football 28 rush is 170 yards 2 TDs they ran the ball 36 times 227 uh Drake London monster day yeah 10 catches the buck 87 2 TDs 18 target Ray Ray McLeod had four for 66 Kyle Pierce had two three targets two two catches 15 yards there a couple of players away I think Carolina look I'm not saying they're about to be Detroit and they're about to switch this thing around yeah but I know they got their quarterback now get them get them a little offensive by a look did a great job he got no sacks protect them a little better get a couple of offensive linemen hey you know if they get if they get them I ain't seeing a if they get like a I'm not saying there is one out there like a Jamar Chase adjusting Jefferson I'm like a Malik neighbors yeah yeah I'm talking about one of them like Brian Tom and junior one them type like one of them type like yeah like like that that boy you know what I'm trying to say yes I have one little just trying to say man listen stop playing you know too because I like I like Bryce Young yeah he's frail yeah he's 510 yeah he's been Ocho he's never gonna be 220 yeah so stop saying if he gain weight he not that's not his frame his frame can't carry 220 yeah and what does that's like trying that's like trying to put a 18 wheeler uh motor in a in a boat wagon there's no point what is 18 what is 20 gonna do and help with his skill set nothing his game nothing you like you you like to him the game a little way to see if he can gain 10 pounds Ocho yeah because he look like he about 180 Ocho you want to take some you want to take some of that you want some cushion to take some of them blows punishment yeah but he not gonna be no he's not gonna be he's not gonna be an overly large man that's not his frame so we can stop that but the Panthers win the final game of the season 44-38 no more time Bryce Young five touchdowns three passing two rushing um you have to feel he had you have to feel good with what you saw with Bryce Young today uh those young receivers stepped up defensively look they gave up but they got to stop when they needed it and here we are yeah Bryce Young did it the Cardinals defeated the 49ers 47 to 24 Kala is the season with a four touchdown day it's Kala Ocho let me ask you this yeah do you keep Kala try the build or what are you going to do with Kala well you keep Kala Bird what you mean okay yeah you you keeping that you keeping young boy young bullets nice they Kala's happy in Arizona damn that's a good question huh i would think so you have a you have a you have a okay offensive line you got James Connie you got Marvin Harrison junior i mean do you really do you really you look at the landscape but NFL any other team that you can go to any other team you can go to where you go go on uh i like it uh he played he played screaming well today yeah 25 to 35 to 42 four touchdowns uh Trey McBride got another touchdown seven sixty five one touchdown Marvin Harrison junior five or six three one touchdown door four four forty seven two touchdowns Zagil i think that's Zagil four four forty six um they were out James uh Connor but they ran the ball 27 times for 151 Joshua Dobbs didn't play bad turn the ball over if you got a touchdown of turnos uh 29 to 43 326 hmm Ricky Pearsall six for 69 I'm a touchdown Cal use check uh I'll have a touchdown but when you turn the ball over on cost three time you're you're probably going to lose the game especially when you play on the road and uh 49 a defense all i know is Steve will be better defense didn't look like that when the sg will call me that's what i'm saying I I look that's all i'm saying right I know Cal I've been knowing Cal since he was this tall yes sir love to share the head but i'm just saying sometimes hey keep what you got the Chargers defeated the Raiders 30 40 20 Jim Harbaugh seven and six in the regular season um they travel they're the this 5c right they're the 5c so they play Houston they could eat they could win that game on Joe yeah they absolutely could win that game they could win that game and also we can see a uh a very very good game from c-day shroud as well yeah so they depend on what quarterback we see from c-day shroud this could be it could definitely be a scoring game or Joe yeah i can see i can see this game being a 30 a 31 he's 28 you know 31 34 34 33 some type of game like that uh Justin Herbert was 26 of 36 3 46 two touchdowns they ran the ball 35 times for 137 uh Quentin Johnson 13 yeah they had a big one a book 86 yeah lad mcconkie five for 95 distally five for 42 uh jk dobbins at 18 Russia 63 yards Justin Herbert had four rushes for 42 yards he had a loan before he won mm-hmm haskins had 12 for 33 so they basically had they had almost four 500 yards of total offense um Jacoby Myers nine one 23 touchdown Brock Bowers uh nine uh four for 50 it's hard to win without a coach i mean without a quarterback oh yeah i'm giving them who you coach you did you see coach metal check don't touch coach metal checks record without a quarterback Don Shuler Don Shuler had all those wins um Don Shuler coach let me tell you Don Shuler uh quarterbacks work y'all might have heard of him Johnny United's oh yeah Bob greasy oh yeah Dan Marino have y'all heard of any of those quarterbacks oh you have yeah hmm and they weren't no slouches either now yeah uh uh all first battle hall of paper real deal okay okay so so everything you guys have heard of it but man look John Hobart is gonna get some serious coach of the year consideration now i think Kevin O'Connell is gonna win the war going 14 to three of Minnesota and he did it with a back a quarterback that many didn't expect to play uh i don't care what y'all say Minnesota if they thought if they thought uh Sam Donald was gonna do this they would not have drafted a quarterback right exactly so we could put that to bed but Jim Harbaugh it normally takes him like a year he did it going he turned it around a lot sooner than people anticipated we knew the turnaround was going to happen because the turnaround has happened every place that he's being right there's no denying this track record you go back and look at uh you San Diego you go back and look at uh uh uh stanford you go look at 49ers you go look at michigan the turnaround is gonna happen and it happened so congratulations charges uh going to the playoffs congratulations coach arbor yeah the coast defeated the jags 23 26 23 and overtime pat McAfee sweet with empty at today's game the coats are retaining Shane Steichen and gm chris ballad per jim ursay um p-mac has been very outspoken yeah um he doesn't like the culture um some of the players uh they've been outspoken they don't they didn't like the critique that p-mac is offered p-mac that macafee i call him p-mac right um p-mac is offered and they've kind of been going back and forth so uh Joe flaco was 23 or 42 64 one times down to no interceptions uh jonathan taylor 34 russia 177 yards uh mac jones was 20 or 32 225 one touchdown one reception brian thomas junior ocho seven catches a buckled three he was he was he was sensational and uh again but i think the thing is like what i had to do ocho and i had to divorce myself from it right um when you with an organization and you want the best for it and you see guys not playing and you become like i was like bro i gotta stop because it's taking his toll on me and right and that's how p-mac gives p-mac going up the divorce himself for that because he gonna give himself an ulcer yeah because he cares that he plays for um and he's you know he's big in the community p-mac gives back and he just wants what's best for the organization and uh it's just hard when he doesn't he doesn't think the players are playing or doing the right thing that that that that's conducive for winning um yeah i i i i understand understand where he's coming from especially you play for organization i'm not sure how long he played there but i totally get where he's coming from now obviously i mean on on my end on your end you you've never had the really to to to say anything when it came to the Broncos players they were came to the Ravens players because they've always given their all just in general you know when it comes to my bangles hell i mean outside of us having you know playing bad defense you know throughout the entirety of season outside of the back half you know i don't criticize them you know too much you know but p-mac or a he he got him boy's hot boy yeah he got him boy hot for me i just like i say what i said i'm done with it i'm not going back and forth with no players right right i'm not jealous of y'all i don't care what y'all think my job is a critique and analyzing you know i'm very passionate about what i do right uh i don't take no malicious shots at you i'm not talking about what you may or may not do off the field unless like obviously sometimes we have to talk about guys getting dew eyes or doing things like that or so but other than that even if i know something i keep it to the football aspect of it because i don't feel this is my fair i'm not uh an investigative journalist or i'm not a tabloid journalist wow i'm salacious details of things like that uh so it is tough when you what you want the team to win so bad and you don't think you think um guys the team is not holding guys accountable and the guys are not being accountable right kind of goes hand in hand you should be professional sometimes everybody's not going to always be professional but when they're not that's when you step but that's one of the organization leaders uh coach step in and says okay this is what's required this is what we expect you to do but whatever reason that hadn't happened ocho so uh p-bank said what he said and uh uh a lot of the players didn't take too kindly to that now it's time for our last segment of the evening it's time for q and a jps underscore world said ocho gonna need a g wagon to get all those buffalo knickers to uh hello el bick fan you guys complete my eve and my evening every night jps thank you bro i appreciate that yeah ocho you ain't gonna be able to put the buffalo knickers in that Ferrari listen you don't you don't want that money on man you don't want that money i do i want it i want to where i want to give me some chrome hard jeans i want to give me a car chrome hard uh uh uh uh uh uh a puffer i want to get me i want to get me a Richard hold on listen if you want some chrome hard stuff i got my dude working the designers to hear my name his name is Arthur ask for him boom there you go he got you okay what about that Richard mill huh talk to me what about that Richard mill oh the rich the Richard millie store is right is there Richard millie is Richard mill okay however you want to say it it's in brickel there's a Richard millie store i can see you i can see the guy's information i have his card okay treat yourself because i know you like watches what about what about the Ferrari that's oh i've been had if it ain't old yeah it is oh that's old there they right there what happened to saving i do say it no no no no you said ocho is there a trash it he doesn't need a Ferrari he doesn't need a labyrinthine i drive i drive a spark car i don't if you if you notice i put on clothes be it was a date night i went on that i went on a date with this chick okay chrome hard puffer best 6900 chrome hard g 10 5 rich our meal 300 k Air Force ones uh 150 what what model for our is that f f 90 f eight oh so we go 350 huh interesting hey god it saves yeah i do say so i can i can listen you're not used to seeing me do this but because i've saved over the years because i am financially conscious i can treat myself a kasey and and pull a move like this 12 years you move from the game of football okay i'm not saying when i want to treat myself you told me no and not blink an eye no i told you i told you don't be flying on a goddamn private 50 000 now that's difficult alone that rich that six trips on with the richard meal that Ferraris 350 that's 700 that's another six strip uh and i can get i can do a round trip with the chrome heart outfit so yeah i'm good you know what you you could thank nightcap because nightcap you know they they personal life yeah that's old money man that's old money uh zoos everyone's personal life is for the internet except uh ocho lady cheated we talked about that damn i don't know who did that Travis girl went on LBJ with LBJ jersey and all and he talked about that now we got f off address the elephant in the room you're trending on twitter thank god nothing to do with me guys the news of the day absolutely it done and got nothing to do with us yeah now you gotta do me so there's nothing to address yeah i don't know why everybody keep if you notice everybody's posted it they got me in the 42 pages they don't mention nothing about Shannon Sharp did anything but y'all want to get clicks so y'all mentioned me right yeah ain't got nothing to do with us TF car wise DTF serves are the lives of team to beat in the playoffs and uh and you should get a shot at for an interview this year i wish we can get shot at i don't remember last time i've seen shot it would have interviewed um i think the NFC championship game is going to be between the lions and the uh the eagles who who you got who you got who you got who you got if you made me pick right now i'll take the i will take the eagles yeah i would okay okay okay okay okay okay okay i like it i know one i'm on your bill said from 0 and 16 to running out of the end zone from from bagline i hear they call it i coach the cloud for biting kneecaps y'all they're making fun of us now bar marshal bill you guys got a the turnaround has been uh um uh uh has been nothing nothing short of miraculous you mentioned the o and 16 the bag on your head to deal i'm sorry you had a very bad moment uh but you got but what they've been able to do to turn around last year went to the NFC championship game it seems like they're the team to beat or one of the two teams to beat uh this year in the NFC yeah bar marshal you guys y'all y'all doing the thing y'all doing the thing and i'm like i said i don't really know anybody for the the lions i don't um obviously you know you know the players you but i don't know anyone i don't know i don't think i bet any of these guys personally but i'm happy for barry i'm happy for Megatron i'm sure they wish they could have had this kind of talent surrounding them to give them an opportunity to play for a Super Bowl but hey it happens when it happens but uh congratulations to the Detroit Lions number one seed in the NFC the Juan Hines congrats to the Lions for while they're fan based so weird they act like they've been winning for decades and you can't even compliment or criticize them without them saying you're a hater or a bandwagon fan that's what happens i mean you're right they haven't won a whole lot um uh i i hate bringing up the past though we live in an hour with the Lions doing or doing right now it's special it's special especially for of course to be able to come in and turn the franchise around that damn fast that that fast and then you we talk about just coming in and just winning few games here a few games there we talk about they damn they're running the table but but the Lions only lost two games is y'all yeah and they only lost two games this year and then the fashion in which they win they out there running stuff you run on at the turkey bowl on Thanksgiving with your home like that's me you know yeah they make the game of football excite man they they win a different type of fashion they're entertaining fashion they have a coach who's on the sideline with his nuts in the goddamn wheelbarrow you know he like yeah fourth and fourth and twenty goddamn would be going for it let's go yeah uh and i i think you're right ocho and i think the thing is they can want to multitude to let waves we see them turn the ball over five times yeah still win a game we see them getting the shoot-offs in win a game they can win the games and a multitude of waves yeah they can run it they can throw it they can put pressure on you and stifle your defense but as we see Minnesota I bear high-powered offense and guess what they shut them down they shut them down expression um so congratulations to the lions headed to the playoffs for the second consecutive year timley ocho the reason and others give the bingles fans such a hard time because the bingles players and their fans talk so much it ain't nothing it's historically a bad franchise it is because all you guys you the bingles we're talking about the ALC runs through us how whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa the bingles are out of the playoffs why are we still talking about us why we we we're not we're not in it but for some reason our names y'all were never in it coming up i knew it was talking y'all were never in the playoffs contentious y'all i told you i said ocho y'all don't control y'all own destiny y'all got a hope well i hope miami loses i hope the bronco loses right see the bronco they had to do no hope with win the game and we in well i told you what happened i told you what happened you understand how good and how dangerous you were towards the end of the season the Kansas City Chiefs purposely laid down so there was no opportunity or chance that they would have to face it again because why am i going to run this risk why am i going to run risk injury to to benefit y'all so i get past my homes then what i didn't say anything about patching my home plan i said okay i you thought hello you thought them you thought i told you this i told you once they beat Pittsburgh they were resting the final game right no i'm you talk about Carson with he's been a starter he'll find a way he was terrible i thought he would have found a way but he did he did he didn't it's all good though we'll see you next year matter fact no whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa matter fact i ain't gonna see you next year i'm gonna see y'all after next week we gonna hey we gonna meet in kenku matter of fact i'm gonna book y'all flight i'm gonna book y'all flight from buffalo straight to kenku or y'all want y'all want to go Jamaica the Bahamas which one whoa whoa i'm just asking you whoa why are you like this ocho this is so unnecessary i'm just asking you which one you want because i hope you don't think y'all gonna go on the buffalo beat and be got and be a Superman oh you say that it said uh that Kansas City was gonna beat us today were you not that guy oh and you see how y'all offense moved when t higgas got hurt y'all been that let t go how y'all played how y'all have a thirty million dollar receiver a fifty five million dollar quarterback and a forty million dollar receiver oh and he just led the NFL in sax again oh he gonna command a big payday are you sure why are we talking about the bangles right now we're not in the playoffs let's talk about the Broncos y'all won the night but y'all to be home next week hey hey dirty hey let's sell it the celebration is gonna be ocho owe me money he won't pay i said hey dirty ocho pay my money it's getting ugly i need that ocho hey i've been trying to pay you for the past well you ain't been trying to pay me you ain't been trying to pay me hard enough but yo yo if i raise up here and i got my money to be proud anybody in the chat anybody in the chat want this 4,000 that uh oh man let me know what you mean oh you can't go oh i'm coming to that uh oh hey it's bobby bones join me and former NFL quarterback matt castle every wednesday for our new podcast lots to say the bobby bones and matt castle between us we have over 17,500 passing yards multiple new york times best sellers and one mirror ball trophy from dancing with a star so where else you can find a show with that much athleticism and football insight based in Nashville we're more than just your basic NFL show we talk sports but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit everything because we got lots to say i texted you and you texted me back now i don't know if you have the update but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff like it's all colored they changed it and the heart's a little pink it felt like i told you i loved you i'm going to be honest it was a little pink there was something sentimental when you feel like when you send it he was like uh do i send the heart now i don't like the color edition it's extremely pink listen to lots to say with bobby bones and matt castle on the iHeartRadio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts hey there it's michael louis author of going infinite money ball the blind side and liar's poker on every season of my podcast against the rules i take a broad look at various characters in american life the referee the coach the expert my next season's all about fans and with the rise of sports betting is doing to them to the teams and even to my family i'm heading to los vegas and new jersey and beyond to understand america's newest form of legalized gambling listen to against the rules on the iHeartRadio app apple podcast or wherever you listen to podcasts what's going on everybody this is justine penic from jamboy media the host of the football today podcast alongside bobby skinner and chris rose we're rolling three times a week on monday's on wednesday's on friday's breaking down everything you need to know about the nfl we're talking about the mvp race is josh alan going to pull it out mamore jackson can take long bark we even break the rushing record can the stealers keep up their momentum we talk about everything we break it down stats analytics and of course chris rose is bringing his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well listen to football today on the iHeartRadio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad you did hope you could join us for the post season run oh chow in fact double nothing better better 4,000 on here better 4,000 listen better your team was the bingles my team is the bronco you i whoa i'm going for the bill better double nothing double nothing no scare money don't make no money which which you're trying to do i made money i got 4,000 now you need to run me that ocho y'all see this man not he don't even like the bills he want to bet on another team to do something that this team couldn't do which was getting the playoffs that move it not the same and we beach all though that's all that matter we beach all yeah no no we did not get you we beat y'all what did that do get you you know matter we beat y'all we got more rek we got more wins than y'all we're in the playoffs we see next year and whoa we gotta wait that long hey hold on hold on hold on we are talking about this in cabo next week we're talking about this in cabo i got to wait that long i got to wait next year for the beginning to get to the playoffs come again i got to wait to next year for the beginning to make the playoffs unless you play man yeah did y'all make the playoffs last year damn did y'all make the playoffs last year who talking about last year you see what you're saying you said that you just asked you just asked me a question did y'all make you say you didn't want to talk about that i don't like talking about old stuff whoa whoa whoa Dr. Frankie L Bellamy Doc happy new year Doc it is so good to see uh uh uh a chat from you and hey fam what's good as a cowboy fan i like to officially apologize for whatever that was on the field today um y'all what y'all been what the elephant left on the show grab all year y'all know where the elephant left on the show grab doc i like you but i'm not disappointed by this result i don't think anybody is tara said what's up okay don't show Houston Texas fans here do y'all think tariq will be a good tariq good listen everybody's gonna ask his tariq tariq is a good fit anywhere any day the question is what is the compensation if the dolphins aren't ways what is the compensation that they're looking to get now they're going to look to get the compensation that they gave up to get it now 30 million i think he's making 30 million uh he's probably got what four years left on that deal 30 million a year probably 120 million dollars that's not a lot of money for a guy like tariq yeah yeah i hope things work out in each state you know cooler heads cooler heads will prevail upstairs he doesn't want to stay because he knows his quarterback is injury prone and his future is tied to the quarterback because and i told you huntley is no ocho i don't like i don't like you talk about my team because i don't see i don't see any talk about bonix when i talk about bonix and i talk about where to play out why are you talking about both although when i talk when i do talk about bonix i'm praising i talk about how good he is how how stellar his play has been that man was 26 or 29 for 321 and three times how could you not praise it well i'm i would praise him all season long you didn't hit me you should you're lucky i'm not talking about this game ten wins this minute hold on i know y'all ain't got no rookie quarterback who the quarterback is Cincinnati Joe burrow and y'all ain't get ten wins and we got ten wins with a rookie imagine if bow had your mark chase your mark chase would be in the playoffs and you stop stop playing the team man man both of your team mr playoffs that's fine you know it's one of those years and it's like life life has obstacles and it has hurdles and this is one of the hurdles that we happen to stumble over this year and if you notice the Ravens win the Super Bowl in 12 year increments 2000 2012 2024 i like that i like who did that whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa i don't really need you like anything you're bingles bingles and Ravens don't get along birds do not birds do not like cats i like Lamar Jackson whoa whoa whoa whoa stop this my a from b from Florida that's all they fly play for Raven they flowers he from Florida they from home we put all that we put that to the side we're Raven play like a Raven i'm able to separate the two i'm able to separate the two you ain't got no choice aj's amore who they when they when they when they when they gonna make the playoffs again when they when they when they gonna make the playoffs again never next year and y'all stole the chant y'all stole the phrase chant because they the who that y'all said about who they we had our chant way before them that now i would give you a history lesson but i'm not gonna go there right now y'all ain't even know nothing y'all been bad the bingles been bad oh yo y'all been bad for a long long time y'all need to stop this notion that y'all been good y'all have it we've had season y'all have it now you got the potential to do something potential means you ain't done ish yet that's what potential means you have it done ish we'll be there don't worry about it beware keep on laughing y'all hold on y'all do know in order to get there Lamar Jackson on the bingles listen i don't want to let them we'll see i'm gonna let y'all finish the season out i'm gonna let y'all finish the season now oh yo y'all got practice on y'all got practice on Monday Tuesday this week who i don't play them up bingles i'm retired the bingles y'all got pretty got pride what time practice were they practicing for i mean looking at y'all look like y'all didn't practice none this year i was asking that when you watch y'all practicing but um this long i said ugga don't yo used to say the word used to say he would tell chris mccallister his rouse because he knew he couldn't stop him with their play on defense he used to bully cause you knew they couldn't stop you all up yeah i used to i used to bully raid oh no that mercy i used to bully nothing bully airy i used to bully sugs you know being they hate talking the whole game y'all ain't gonna do nothing with me y'all ever beat the Ravens yeah all the time look at my numbers y'all didn't beat the Ravens listen i can't i can't control the teams outcome i can control my individual performance against said team not bad i can do i know i lost one game against the bingles one i wasn't there one i wasn't there one game i wasn't there let's see we played them in 91 and we played up there oh we played oh we played them when you was there you was there at o2 and we beat y'all didn't that's when prime was there right we beat y'all at o2 prime was there i was with the Broncos Broncos i don't remember that game huh don't worry about it you didn't do nothing i wouldn't blame up when you think you have one kid i wouldn't remember it either i wouldn't call that ill go look it up i probably i probably won't play it oh you play it were you on the team yeah i was on the team but i probably won't play it that was my rookie year uh she had them posted up what are your thoughts on bull's retired deep rose number that's last youngest mvp ever uh you just always think what could have been had the injuries not happened what could have been i think it's a great thing yeah i don't think they got a whole lot of players numbers retired i think bob love i think jerry sloane obviously mike uh scottie i'm not i'm not other than that i really don't know a whole lot of bull's players other than you know love and jerry sloane and and and and mj scottie but d road going up there he's a chicago kid went to cimmy in high school so congrats d rose uh brandon hey guys want to clarify what i was saying yesterday at my job we were doing secret santa and my crush secret santa and i was my crush secret santa i bought her a $17 necklace from amazon with her name on it i was thinking outside of the box that younger co-worker he thinking about that box yeah he thinking inside the box yeah yeah you were thinking outside the box yeah he's thinking about the box man if you don't go snatch that chain i told you what to do now i told you what to do don't do that don't leave with no money don't leave with no gifts no you have to have a you have a great understanding if it's not being reciprocated don't start that gift buying shit don't don't do that don't do that because she's going to be with you all for all the wrong reasons even if it is only a $17 necklace you better hey okay come you okay you think teddy at bronco's fan yep as a matter of fact he gonna have one of his bronco shark jersey he got custom shark jersey you have it all we can tell you PJ hey hey hey come on dpj buddy you don't talk yeah because they bronco's won bing was dead are you bing buddy he's just gnawing in the mic just gnawing in the mic hold on hmm you're so glad you're a good little boy i'm just dictated there oh Joe you know what that is you know what that means right ocho what show's over who they we got what we got today hold on hold on hold on i mean the show's about to be over y'all season is over time has come the end is near uh baby blue though others going in oh i know karma can be a bee but until they take that victory lap you deserve this moment ocho run on that bokeh so the uh uh uh the striped kitty cat going to next season with some good luck nah they not you don't need good luck we'll see y'all next year we're gonna let on canvas look have you a little moment enjoy your love look for tae you know because next week when we on the show next week oh boy you better be ready boy you better be ready you better be cast him i'm gonna have on a josh alan jersey and all whoa whoa why you wearing somebody else i don't do that now you know i got the ravers helmet back there right yeah okay i got two teeth and play off right okay okay oh so you're gonna jump off win but on went off one oh what you mean jump off what you mean jump off if you go back and look at the ravers in 2000 i was on the team that originally won the super ball don't do that ocho all right okay counts him since the other don't your long time fan since before lobster and condoms if camel wins detroit super wins detroit is super bold do y'all think he will leave this house do a wide open and not get robbed how far would they go to honor him well if he wasn't super on detroit they better be able to stat you with all the long suffering yeah that that detroit is had yeah and to win a super bowl after all the what that city has gone through right he ain't got to play for nothing you know what else y'all rightfully so what currency is the yen or the quan or the ruble so who the ruble i live in the states i don't know i want you to give me some i want foreign money now we what you need foreign money for you we that in the far you let's man try to tell me what i need this fuck whenever i want about i i i i think i get hey look at the price of of of a miniature towel a miniature goat or miniature horse i'm gonna get me i'm gonna get me a what's it called i'm gonna get me a miniature cow and name him dumpling you know i don't want to see how much it calls to or many cow calls between five and seven i think i can spring for another another file and get me dumpling what about a mini goat oh they they might they buy for you get some between fifteen hundred sixty five hundred depending on the size oh yeah i get many go i give me a bunch of mini goats for four thousand they're between forty and four hundred i mean i get me ten i give me a little hurt give me a cup of burn dot cards because they like to stand on the band and cars and stuff oh yeah you want a mini goat i like it that concludes it guys we want to thank ocho and i want to really thank you guys for tuning in wasn't we asking for tonight um you're gonna let you do buddy uh please make sure you're hitting that subscribe button please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed i am your favorite on china sharp that guy limited cities on bingles ring a fame autoree no pro book no uh play off self uh all pro bingo 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they get the first round by the uh Vikings go on the road to take on the number four seed los angeles rams the bronco defeat the chiefs 38 to nothing earn the number seven seed and they will play the number two seed which are the buffalobios you know what that mean okay somebody going uh let's see oh jump the jets take down the dolphins 32 to 20 what could have been what could be possibly Aaron Rodgers last game Tyree he'll talk about the game talk about he's tired of losing uh franchise players being injured he talked about tour uh so he spoke as if he might need he might want a change of scenery uh the Patriots defeated the Bills 23 16 Gerard Mayo was informed after the game he will not be coming back as the head coach next season we couldn't be and done the Cowboys lose to the commanders 23 to 19 uh Mike Emmons in a victory won over the New Orleans Saints extended his streak of consecutive thousand yard seasons he has 11 the record is 14 held by Jerry Rice and in the process of going over 1000 yards he hit a bonus that earned him an additional three million dollars the Eagles minus a lot of their starters defeated the Giants 20 to 13 the Bears won for the first time against the Packers since 2018 24 22 the Panthers defeated the Falcons in overtime they've walked it off 44 38 Bryce Young five touchdowns three passes two rushing carolot the Cardinals defeated the 49ers 47 24 charges defeated the Raiders 34 to 20 the Colts defeated the Jags 23 26 and overtime and that completes nightcap guys we're off tomorrow but we do have a show on Wednesday so no show tomorrow we'll see you Wednesday thank you for joining us so we go Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Monday damn so we got a little break on show we got Monday and Tuesday off and then we line up for six straight days because the college football playoffs NFL playoffs and because the NFL game there's a Monday night game for the playoffs for the first time so thank you guys I appreciate your guys and 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